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The class of 2016 is truly defined by its inventive pioneering mentality that accompanies a strong commitment to Gilman tradition. Just like we've done these past few years, we'll be exploring the unknown. Whether that be attending colleges across the country, traveling the world during gap years, fulfilling military service in foreign countries. As we embrace the new, however, we won't forget the old. Our friendships, values, and memories from Gilman will always stay with us.

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Just 6 months before the shooting, Luigi Mangione was having the time of his life traveling through Asia and sharing his experiences by posting on social media.

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There is a very real sense of traveling as an adventurer rather than as a tourist. So I'm here in the mountains in Nara, and it's beautiful, man. I think I wanna stay here for like a month and just meditate. And just hot spring and do some writing. I want some time to Zen out.

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38 with some sunshine now in the city. Mostly cloudy today in a high of 41.

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For the shooter, the morning starts at 5:30 in the morning when he leaves the hostel on the Upper West Side of Manhattan at a 100 and 4th Street in Amsterdam Avenue.

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Mostly cloudy today in Ohio 41 in Augustine.

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The city was about to come alive for the day. It was a a routine Wednesday. It was a clear morning. It was cold out. And you see this shooter walking up 50 fourth Street wearing a hood that was up.

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He had a mask on in the vicinity of the Hilton on 50 fourth Street. Tent on 54th Street.

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6th Avenue, this time of year, you probably don't have a more trafficked or highly populated part of Manhattan or New York, except for Times Square. We're talking about a couple of blocks away from Rockefeller Center with the famous Christmas tree. Right near there, you have Radio City Music Hall, famous for its Christmas show. Hilton itself is a busy, busy place. That morning, United Healthcare was having an investor conference.

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So it's about an hour of the shooter making his way around this small slice of midtown Manhattan. He goes to a Starbucks and gets a snack and a bottle of water. He walks west a block. He then walks east a block. He's clearly passing time as he waits for Brian Thompson to make his appearance.

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Brian Thompson, who's the chief executive of United Healthcare crosses Sixth Avenue. He came to the Hilton Hotel, where he was going to present about an hour later at an investor conference, and as soon as the suspect sees Thompson, that's when he begins to spring into action.

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At 6:44 in the morning, you see mister Thompson walking down the block from his hotel to the Hilton.

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He's dressed in a blue suit. He does not have any security detail with him. He's all by himself. Does not seem to be aware that he's in terrible danger.

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There are cameras everywhere. There are people everywhere. Even at 6, 7 in the morning, there are people.

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After he gets the water bottle and the KIND bar from the Starbucks, he takes position and then holds up in the predawn dark and he sees Brian Thompson.

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New York is a connected city. We know that there are cameras. We know there are thousands, tens, maybe even hundreds of thousands of cameras all around New York City.

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In this case, using cameras was going to be critical. It was gonna be crucial to figuring out who the person is who committed this crime.

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The first video that we get, which is the most sensational of the videos, is of the actual shooting.

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You see Brian Thompson walking past the area where the shooter is located. The shooter comes up behind him. It appears that it may be 10 or 12 feet behind Brian Thompson. The shooter fires 3 times. It seems the gun jams several times in between the shots, and that's going to be very, very important down the road for police investigating the crime.

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You see a bystander run out of the frame in the other direction. Brian Thompson is on the floor.

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A horrifying and shocking act of violence.

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We know that a man was shot on the sidewalk here

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at Bronx.

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That it happened at 6:40 this morning.

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A deadly shooting in Midtown Manhattan and

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Police are searching for a suspect that fled the victim.

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Is the chief executive of UnitedHealthcare.

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Shot and killed outside the Hilton on 6th Avenue in Midtown.

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People seem to notice that it wasn't a typical assassin's gun. Police said they thought at first it may be a veterinarian's weapon. It appeared to have a silencer or a long barrel that would effectively act as a silencer.

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I think what was most jarring about the shooting was how calm the shooter seemed to be. He seemed to be methodical.

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The case almost instantly became 1 of public fascination. Who would do this and why? People started talking, was this a professional killer? Was this a a hit job, a hired assassin?

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When detectives went back and started looking at these images frame by frame over and over again, they noticed a couple of things. First of all, they noticed how far away the shooter was from Brian Thompson. Detectives were saying to us that if this had been somebody who was really a trained assassin, he wouldn't have fired from 10 or 12 feet away. He would have fired from 5 or 7 feet away. He took off before he made sure that his victim was dead, and trained assassins would not do that.

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Police didn't think this was a professional job, but they did acknowledge it seemed to be pretty well planned,

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victim is the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, Brian Thompson. He's a 50 year old husband, father of 2.

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UnitedHealthcare is the biggest health insurance company in the United States. They cover 30,000,000 Americans, and last year, they made more than $200,000,000,000

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Police quickly get into Brian Thompson's hotel room. They get his phone. They're trying to see, is there somebody out there that might have a grudge or a vendetta against Thompson? Did he owe money to people? Was there some sort of a drug thing, an alcohol thing?

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All these things are quickly being cycled through. And pretty fast, the police determined there's none of them. Investigators were telling us that they believed, in theory, without having a ton of evidence yet, that this felt to them like this was a shooting motivated by Brian Thompson's work. 1 of the most important pieces of information that came out in the immediate aftermath of the shooting was the fact that

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The shell casings had messages on them, words that were written on each 1, delay, deny, depose, handwritten with a permanent marker.

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And that has an eerie echo to a book critical of the insurance industry talking about the tactics that health insurance companies use to either refuse to pay claims, to slow paying for claims.

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Writing the words in the bullets told us so many things. It gave us the specific cause to what he was speaking to. This wasn't just a random person. This is a political act against

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a corporation. Almost as soon as it's confirmed that Brian Thompson is dead, social media explodes and in a really unanticipated, unpredicted kind of way.

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The CEO for UnitedHealthcare filed his last claim today because a gunman decided not to extend coverage on his life. All while the search for their killer is being met with comments like, sorry,

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out of network.

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People were cheering the demise of this person they've never met who was a father of 2 and a husband and had a life and was just doing a job no matter how distasteful that job might be to a certain segment of the population.

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Some people are missing the point that, yes, this is class warfare, but it's not rich versus poor. It's the people against the corporations that are making our lives worse.

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This case was the source of unbelievable public fascination. It had all of the ingredients. First of all, it's a midtown Manhattan murder, then you have a manhunt. And it just builds and builds and builds, and the police are starting to put out images, and asking for the public's help.

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This is breaking news from channel 7, eyewitness news.

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723 on this Wednesday, December 4th. 4th. I'm Mike Marzo, and we wanna get right to that breaking news unfolding in Midtown. That's where cops are now searching for a masked gunman.

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It's very unusual for someone to be shot in that neighborhood at any time of day.

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This is West 54th Street between 6th and 7th Avenues in Midtown Manhattan.

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When Brian Thompson was murdered, his wife told the media that he had received threats, general threats against him. And that's not always unusual when you're the CEO of a big company. So that's why everyone thought that whoever killed Brian Thompson had a grudge against him personally.

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My name is Brad Garrett. I'm a retired FBI agent. I've investigated single homicides, serial homicides, and mass casualty homicides in the United States and in various parts of the world for a better part of 20 years. So the key is, as much information as you can gather about the victim may lead you toward a potential suspect. Who is this guy?

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Where was he going? Why was he shot in that location that time of the day, etcetera? The layer beyond that is who had issues with mister Thompson.

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The shooter appears to be a light skinned male. He's wearing a light brown or cream colored jacket, a black face mask, black and white sneakers, and a very distinctive gray backpack.

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So the suspect shoots Brian Thompson and then he takes off.

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After the shooting, we know that the shooter runs across 54th Street. We know he goes up this alleyway called the Ziegfeld Alley, right by the Ziegfeld Theater, which is a real landmark in midtown Manhattan. And then he gets on a bike at this point, and he rides up Sixth Avenue, up to Central Park.

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An e bike was the perfect getaway vehicle. It can zip in and out of traffic, and you can go pretty fast on an e bike, so you're a lot harder to catch.

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Traffic is terrible in the morning rush hour in midtown. So if the killer wanted to escape by car, he would have gone nowhere.

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He gets to Central Park and rides an e bike through the park.

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He comes in, and he basically works his way through the park.

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The cameras lose sight of him because he goes into the park. And 1 big blind spot in the city, you talk about cameras everywhere, there really aren't cameras in Central Park. There are trees, there are heavily wooded areas.

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And so the shooter is able to basically evade surveillance for a period of time. He's gone.

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So this video obtained by ABC News is of a suspect on, presumably, it looks like his e bike riding away from Central Park. This is important because we always wanna know direction of flight, because it'll give you leads. Since you don't know who he is, it'll give you directions about where he possibly is going.

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He comes out of Central Park at 77th on the bike. We then see him on 86th. No bike, no backpack. He gets into a taxi.

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There's this amazing shot, and he he peers through the partition that separates the driver from the passenger.

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We could still clearly see his distinctive eyes and his distinctive eyebrows. He didn't do anything to truly camouflage his appearance.

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And the first images have his face, but not a full face, and that adds to additional fascination. And all of a sudden, it's like the masked gunman. So pretty quickly, the question is, are they gonna find him today?

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What's interesting about this case is we went on for multiple days of a lot of pictures of this suspect in in various locations, and nobody came forward to ID ID him.

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We know that he takes the cab up to a bus station, which is on the New York City side of the George Washington Bridge.

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We're talking about a bus station that's right up next to the busiest bridge in the country.

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And at first, police believe he hopped a bus and headed out of town. They don't see him getting on a bus. They don't see him at all, and the trail kind of goes cold. At the

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same time in Midtown, the investigation and the response to this crime is picking up.

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The shooter left behind a lot of physical evidence for police to go through as they 0 in on a a possible motive.

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This killer made a lot of mistakes. Going into the Starbucks and making a purchase and then discarding the water bottle and the wrapper in a trash trash can where police could see it through surveillance cameras. So that was a huge mistake.

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The most important thing investigators wanted to recover was the gun, the murder weapon.

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Also, the shooter wasn't wearing gloves when he fired that weapon. Big mistake.

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The full investigative efforts of the New York City Police Department are well underway, and we will not rest until we identify and apprehend the shooter in this case.

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So immediately, police announce a reward of $10,000, for anyone who would provide information that could lead to his arrest and conviction. And, you know, the crime stoppers line in New York did start to get a lot of calls. But the real question is where did he go?

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So, you

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know, the train's going to Washington DC, Boston, Philadelphia.

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I think we all learned that it's a lot easier to disappear in New York than we thought.

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In those first few minutes, all the police really have to go on is that a crime was committed, and then little by little, more information is added to that. But all that while, the shooter is getting farther and farther away from the scene of the crime.

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50 years ago, a young woman named Karen Silkwood got into her car alone.

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She was reportedly on her way to deliver sensitive documents to a New York Times reporter.

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She never made it. And those documents she'd agreed to carry were never found.

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Do you think somebody killed her?

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There's no question in my mind if someone killed her that night. I think they were trying to stop her in order to get the documents.

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A new investigation into the life and death of America's first nuclear whistleblower.

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Listen to Radioactive, the Karen Silkwood mystery from ABC Audio. Listen now wherever you get your podcasts.

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In the dry states of the southwest, there's a group that's been denied a basic human right.

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In the Navajo Nation today, a third of our households don't have running water.

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But that's not something they chose for themselves. Can the Navajo people reclaim their right to water and contend with tend with the government's legacy of control and neglect?

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Our water, our beauty. Our water, our beauty.

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That's in the next season of Reclaimed, the lifeblood of Navajo Nation. Listen now wherever you get your podcasts.

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The manhunt in New York City at this hour for the man who murdered a CEO right in front of a hotel.

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In the days after the shooting, the NYPD deploys an army to Manhattan, including drones, police, scuba divers, trying to find everything they possibly can. Right at dusk on Friday, police in Central Park find what they believe is the the shooter's backpack. There's a jacket, and there's monopoly money.

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He stuffed a backpack full of monopoly money and left it for the NYPD to find. I mean, this is a person who, like many young people, is accustomed to producing their own narrative as the sort of main character of a show.

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This is out of a Batman movie. This is something the Joker would do.

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You got detectives at the scene. They're immediately trying to figure out what happened. At the same time, you got somebody pulling cameras.

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Leapfrogging over 1 camera over another over another, they were able to track this guy to this youth hostel on a 100 third in Amsterdam. So at the youth hostel, they find this amazing piece of video.

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As

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he's checking into the youth hostel, the lady behind the counter asks him to drop his mask to see his face, to see his smile, and he obliges. And that was the picture that went viral.

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Oh my God. That man's, like, gorgeous. Like, he's got a good ass smile. Smash. Just look at the fascination that the public has had with other notorious killers, like Ted Bundy, the serial killer, killer, Charles Manson, the mass murderer.

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But this case is different because of social media.

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Within seconds, people were making comparisons. Oh, he looks like Jake Gyllenhaal. Oh, he looks like Zayn Malik. Oh, he's so handsome.

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People online are falling in love with this suspect, and some of them are even making TikToks using the Britney Spears song Criminal.

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But mama, I'm in love with the criminal.

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Without even knowing who the

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shooter is or the motivation, they've already captured the idea that this is some sort of hero.

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Oh my god. Did you see? He just walks up and blasted them point blank.

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I know. I know. It's awesome. Oh, no.

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I ain't seen nothing. I ain't seen nothing. Matter of fact, I'm blind in my left eye.

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No 1 would turn on Robin Hood, and nobody's gonna turn on the adjuster.

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This is about a lot of people are extraordinarily angry about the way the healthcare industry is allowed to treat us, and 1 person went off the deep end and did something about it. But a lot of other people feel a similar rage because we are being screwed by the healthcare industry.

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On social media, there was this eruption of cheer about it because people are so angry at the healthcare industry.

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All of the things that she had been prescribed were

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no longer going to be covered.

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They would not cover her insulin pen that she needs.

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My 1 year old baby had a giant brain tumor. She sat in the hospital for 3 days.

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The unprecedented explosion really showed the level of true public antipathy toward not just corporate America, but the health insurance industry.

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They had no problem profiting $23,000,000,000 last year off the backs of American people.

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The entire business model of private health insurance companies is is to prey on the most vulnerable people in society.

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UnitedHealthcare says that they approve and pay 90% of claims upon submission, but critics say they have 1 of the highest denial rates in the country.

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For so many Americans who feel that their own lives have been devalued by our system and in particular by our health care system, it felt like a release to them.

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They have not covered life saving measures to keep people alive.

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Because if they can't save your life, then they shouldn't get to keep your money.

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In the past year, people have been so frustrated with UnitedHealthcare that they've taken to the streets to protest. 1 of the things they've been complaining about is that Brian Thompson's Thompson's salary was reportedly $10,000,000.

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Americans struggle to pay their medical bills, and then you have this guy making $10,000,000 a year.

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Hundreds of tips are pouring in, and thousands of police officers are cycling through a manhunt that is now nationwide.

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The manhunt went on for 6 days without any success. So pretty quickly, a reality is creeping in that this shooter could be anywhere.

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The manhunt came to an end in a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. It is a busy breakfast rush, and sitting there eating hash browns is the suspect that all of America has been looking for. You have 1 customer saying to the other, hey. Doesn't that guy look like the wanted killer that everybody is searching for? And then the employee at McDonald's overhears that conversation and calls 911.

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This police officer shows up. He said, have you been to New York recently? And police say he started to shake, he started to get visibly nervous, and that's when the police took him into custody.

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My thought was, why would he go into a McDonald's? Like, he's eluded everyone for so long for a hash brown?

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When police identify him, they say he's Luigi Mengioni, 26 years old, from Maryland.

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Start with breaking news today on ABC News Live, the arrest of a person of interest in Pennsylvania. Police in Altoona, Pennsylvania are questioning 26 year

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old Luigi Mangione. America loves a vigilante. America loves a populist hero. He's young. He's white.

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He's quite good looking. This sort of murderous heartthrob slash folk hero.

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I think 1 of the biggest surprises, it turns out, he's this extremely privileged young man from a very well known family in Baltimore.

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This guy is an evil genius.

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He's the best serial killer that ever existed.

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He compared himself to Ted Bundy.

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The serial killer you don't know.

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Who is this guy?

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You're evil. This is not just any killer.

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In his own words. Put my

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head right up to your ear, and I said, you knew this was coming.

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So when he was arrested, authorities say they found him with a backpack that had all sorts of damning evidence in it, including multiple IDs.

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They find

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the computer, they find the passport.

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They find a 3 d printed silencer and a 3 d printed gun. So this was what the police referred to as a ghost gun, which means basically it has no serial number. They also found a spiral bound notebook that Mr. Mangione allegedly wrote talking about computer aided design or CAD. He has a bachelor's and a master's in engineering from the University of Pennsylvania, and the implication is that he designed, printed, put this gun together, and then used it to commit the crime.

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This was fairly trivial. Some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience.

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This is a replica of the firearm that was used in the killing in New York. Printed on a printer that I have here, and this was done in about 7 hours of printing. The basic file that this is built around, it is the most common handgun to be 3 d printed.

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They seized 26,000 ghost guns at crime scenes last year. And the number keeps growing and growing and growing, because if you are a felon or somebody that is not allowed to buy firearms, where are you gonna go? We have it made. This shooter knew that if he used a 3 d printer gun, they wouldn't be able to trace it.

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Luigi did not have a criminal record, and he certainly had the funds and resources to buy the gun. So the reasons that he chose a 3 d printed gun probably had more to do with wanting to be involved in the tech, wanting this to be a statement. The best guess I have is that he really wanted to be a do it yourselfer, and I think that that's much more likely to have influenced his choice to do a 3 d printed gun than any of the the normal narratives.

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So as soon as Mancioni was identified, it sort of shifted the conversation. He wasn't what you might expect of, on the street assassin. Right? He's not a professional hitman. In fact, he came from an extremely privileged background.

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Mannoni's family is really well respected, very successful. They've been in real estate. They own a couple of country clubs. Luigi's cousin is a state delegate, so they're very, very well connected.

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Suppose you could say in some ways, the Mangione family was the American dream.

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Luigi Mangione's grandfather Nicholas really is, an American rags to riches story. He fought against anti Italian discrimination in Baltimore, and and built a really successful portfolio of businesses that has made his family prominent and wealthy.

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They own Turf Valley, which is a great golf course, Hayfields, which is a great golf course, and other real estate. They're considered a pillar of the community.

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Luigi went to the Gilman High School, which is 1 of the elite high schools in Baltimore City.

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I think the high school tuition is close to $40,000 a year now. It's a prestigious wealthy school with a lot of well connected people.

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So this is a picture

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of Luigi and I, you know,

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at the competition. We're troubleshooting the robot. I think the most shocking to hear that it could have been Luigi because from what I knew of him in high school, right, he was a caring guy, pretty goofy, carefree. Right? Very very hard to associate that with violence, and I just didn't think he had a violent bone in his body.

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He was in the robotics club. He was very advanced in the STEM fields. Of course, he went to school for computer science. He was the most nice unassuming kid you've ever met. A lot of really good friends, really athletic, 2 sport varsity athlete, and of course, he was a valedictorian.

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It's been an incredible journey, and I simply can't imagine the last few years with any other group of guys. Thank you.

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He went to the University of Pennsylvania, the engineering school where he majored in computer science.

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After graduation,

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Luigi Mangione appears to have gone to California. He was working in tech. He worked as a data engineer.

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Luigi Mangione left quite a trail for the public and investigators to follow. There's a trip to Japan. There's a time living in Hawaii.

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He was living in Honolulu in a collective co sharing space.

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He was telling me about, like, what he's searching for in Hawaii, just just to relax and enjoy his life, and and I thought to myself, he's gonna have a really good life.

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At that point, he's into experiencing nature, healthy living. Of course, he's showing off his body on social media.

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We were at the book club, and he was the only 1 who really read the entire book. You know, I I was shocked. Everyone was there for wine and food, and he was the only 1 that was there for the book.

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On Instagram, he just seemed like a happy kid who was enjoying his life, pictures of him on vacation places, at friends' parties. On X, you saw a different side of him. Deeply thinking, concerned about the world.

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He commented on the Unabomber manifesto, and at at a certain point, he refers to him in a way that that people have taken as as almost sympathetic.

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It's simply impossible to ignore how prescient many of his predictions about modern society turned out. He was a violent individual, rightfully imprisoned, who maimed innocent people. While these actions tend to be characterized as those of a crazy Luddite, however, they are more accurately seen as those of an extreme political revolutionary. However, they are more accurately seen as those of an extreme

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political revolutionary. Frankly, I I don't think that his thinking necessarily had to go through some wild radicalization. I don't think that the average 26 year old, the average ivy league graduate are too far away from an understanding that many political systems in Americans, specifically the private healthcare system is unbelievably broken and that traditional methods of addressing this, such as voting, aren't working.

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We don't know how he went from thinking that the world was broken to taking the action he allegedly took.

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We've talked to friends who said that he complained about enduring a back injury that was often quite painful.

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1 of his friends said that his back problems made it really difficult for him to have romantic relationships.

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He posted online an image that is believed to be, an x-ray of his own spine with 4, surgical screws in his spine that it was a fusion surgery, which is often done on people who suffer extreme back pain. But UnitedHealthcare says that he was never a customer of their insurance company.

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It was completely devastating as a young athletic person. Seemingly, all I could read on the internet was that I was to chronic pain and a desk job for the rest of my life. That representation was terrifying.

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In the 6 months before the shooting, importantly, it seems that Luigi kind of went dark. He didn't really post online for that period of time.

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A withdrawal from the total technological availability that, people his age are raised in and, you know, usually never let go for more than 24 hours, it's possibly the sign of something happening.

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He really just stopped communicating with people. And then 2 weeks before the shooting, his own mother filed a missing person's report referring to him in San Francisco.

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His family was very worried about him because he wasn't responding to their phone calls or text messages. Even his voice mail was full.

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The main tragedy here is the death of Brian Thompson, the loss that his family has endured, but there's also a tragedy here about Luigi Mangione who had such a brilliant life ahead of him, and something happened to spiral him into this dark place where he allegedly executed someone. Why? Luigi Mangione arrives in court, and all anyone's actually seen of him up till now is the smiling surveillance image. His social media is out there with the shirt off and he's a happy kid with an ear to ear grin. That's all anyone's ever seen of him until he arrives at court.

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And simply out of

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cash and insult to the intelligence that the American people have shared experience.

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Those who condemned the shooting saw a rageful man. Those who praised it saw an outlaw who was standing up to the system.

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So everyone is wondering, did something happen to this young man? You just don't go and assassinate someone on the streets of New York.

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The NYPD Intelligence Bureau put together a confidential assessment that ABC News has obtained. They believe that in his mind, this was quote unquote a symbolic takedown of the healthcare insurance industry.

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Police say they found handwritten notes in Mangione's backpack.

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And police say that he kind of ruminated on ways in which to carry out this attack on the healthcare industry. He considered a bomb, but then decided that he didn't want to kill innocents and so he wanted instead to target an individual.

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Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder, the US has the number 1 most expensive health care system in the world, yet we rank roughly number 42 in life expectancy.

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Think of the word parasite. That's very dehumanizing to start with. Because to kill other human beings, you have to dehumanize them before you kill them.

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What do you do?

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You whack

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the CEO at the annual parasitic bean counter convention.

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Allegedly, it shows that the killing of Brian Thompson was premeditated. It was planned. It was strategic.

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So just a very brief update on the investigation. 1st, we got the gun in question back from Pennsylvania. We were able to match that gun to the 3 shell casings that we found in Midtown at the scene of the homicide.

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A New York grand jury has just indicted him on murder in the first degree in furtherance of terrorism. The terrorism charge basically is saying he targeted this CEO for a social purpose and reason. That is a form of terrorism.

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In the nearly 2 weeks since mister Thompson's killing, we have seen a shocking and appalling celebration of cold blooded murder. It was a cold and calculated crime.

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Mangione has been extradited to New York.

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I can't think of another criminal defendant in recent memory that received a personal welcome from the mayor of the city of New York.

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In addition, he's now facing federal criminal charges, and they carry with them the possibility of the death penalty.

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The trial in as far as the court of public opinion is already happening. The authorities, the prosecutors are definitely concerned that there's a lot of sympathy for him, and all you need is 1 person on the jury to say, I refuse to say guilty. And then you have a big problem.

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Immediately, people online are trying to get money to Luigi Mangione, fund his legal defense.

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I think that this man's status as a complicated folk hero, I I presume it is extending to within the prison walls. Luigi's the business. And there is a clip where, you know, you can hear his inmates screaming things like, free Luigi.

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Free Luigi. You can have NewsNation doing an indirect interview with inmates in the same jail as Luigi Mangione.

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I have never seen a case like this. It has a life and an energy of its own on social media.

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Police a man, he come and take Luigi far away.

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And the outpouring was instant and intense.

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It's too much. And then all the merchandise that people are trying to sell.

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This 1 DJ recently put up Luigi Mangione's photos. The crowd went wild and started screaming and applauding. I know I

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know what you're doing with that right now.

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And it speaks to the degree to which folks are identifying with outlaws. They feel that their government isn't responsive to them, that corporations don't care about their lives. That's what folks are identifying with right now because they don't know how else to get relief for their from their problems.

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There's clearly anger, and people have seemingly suggested killing other CEOs in the wake of Brian Thompson's killing.

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There's so much rage and frustration. There's so much uncertainty right now. People are messaging me saying, what's gonna happen next?

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I think we tend to have a trust of people who we perceive as good looking. We see studies that show people who are good looking tend to get lesser sentences in general, and he's definitely extremely physically striking.

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You can see it in his posts all over social media.

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But I wanna note, the attraction to him that we're seeing from the masses is partly about the looks, but also about the action.

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Thoughts and prayers for Luigi. You know, it was definitely not him. They have the wrong guy. And, yeah, we're doing we're doing everything we can to get him out of this.

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I think about the irony. Brian Thompson is the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. He gets killed in cold blood in Manhattan. And in the immediate aftermath, as they're planning funeral and succession and business issues, they have to worry about putting fencing up around their headquarters because of the threats.

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I think it's full that 1 individual, Brian Thompson, is being held responsible for the ills of an entire industry. But there are also a lot of posts online from people that are deeply sympathetic to Brian Thompson. People saying that he should be remembered as a father of 2. They see Brian Thompson not only as the literal victim, but a victim of a mob mentality in our culture. And it scares them.

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I still feel like these companies and the CEOs are going to try to protect themselves more rather than get to the root.

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Hopefully, this case does not signal that America is is headed down a a path where grievances are solved at the barrel of a gun.

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Going to protests, pressing your members of Congress to push for reform of the system. There's so many means of expression in our culture that don't include resorting to to violence.

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This struck a chord with Americans because every American has a story to tell about the health insurance industry.

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I was previously insured, but my premiums had gone up so much that I just couldn't afford them anymore.

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I think it was cathartic for a lot of people. They weren't justifying the killing of Brian Thompson, certainly not. But they were describing in great detail why somebody would be angry enough to do something like that.

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Insurance company. I'm really confused because I'm

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pretty sure Have we crossed

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our minds?

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Like, I Vigilante justice is a very dangerous line to walk because what happens when they start to dehumanize you back?

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He compared himself to Ted Bundy.

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