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It's not what you have. It's what's inside of you that actually inspires greatness. And from Curole one studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show, Adam's guest today, Bryan Cranston with Gina Gradle News and Paul O'Brien on sound effects announced earlier today, put the staff through mandatory racism training, but he felt like they were racist enough. Adam, Parola, yeah, I get it on. Got to get in on a choice, but to get on a mandate, you get it on.

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Thanks for tuning in and thanks for sharing. Right, Gina Grande.

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That's right hand valbrun. Hi, guys.

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Well, speaking of with a Y, you have the best.

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Cranston's going to be on the second half of the show today, so we look forward to that. I was wondering if I'm a fan.

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Not not too much. Not really. We're looking at all the Breaking Bad bobbleheads. Yeah.

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I mean, I could take them or leave them. I've only watched the whole series eight times. Sonny's a fanatic to Sunny insisted on coming in the studio, are coming in to work with me today, something he normally dreads when he found out Cranston was was part of it. I will warn this. I will warn all people of this. And certainly if you're listening, hmmm, that's fine.

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It's not.

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I've found that there's a lot of people in my life that are sort of checked out in general to many of the things I do. But then every once in a while they go, why didn't you tell me that Bryan Cranston is coming?

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Because you're on my list of people I don't tell things to, because you're sort of generally you're checked out. So you've got to be on the mailing list. You've got to be on on the mailing list. Yeah. One of the most heart breaking conversations I ever had with my mom. Once she went, she said, me, how come you didn't tell me about X, Y and Z? And I went, You're not on my list of people.

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I tell things still like I don't think of telling you stuff. There's I think of telling Jimmy or somebody else this.

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By the way, before you give me any shit, you put yourself on that list.

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That's right, Sonny. You put yourself on that list. But he's only got one foot on that list. There's other people, the mayor of that list. But he he's so I was on my rowing machine last night and he came down that at 10:00 at night, went Cranston's coming in tomorrow. And I was like, yeah. And he's like, what? Now he's all up and Daddy's business.

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So I believe he's donating plasma as well for covid antibodies.

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Sonny, what I what a nice kid. What what heart.

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What our first thoughts of a little boy. Yeah.

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So yeah, Cranston is doing that and I think he may even be better than we thought, which is he evidently was had covid kept it on the down low.

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Your shop shook a bunch of hands, shook a bunch of hands.

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Him and I wrestled nude for a little while and then he went back home and then he went to UCLA to give blood so they could get the platelets.

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And I think he was going to do the whole thing kind of anonymously or privately. And then somebody at UCLA said to him, hey, if you could get the word out, we can get more platelets in here for a guy like you would talk about it. And so so he admitted he had AIDS and now we're a super confused van.

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So he got the word lives on the way. That's right. I, I wasn't going to get out of the gate with Ernest Lee Biggart, but we had Mike Lynch's intro that Dawson gave us a kind of reminded me of an earnest Lee Pickett, which I slipped into the other day when I was talking to somebody. I don't know if you guys have experienced this, but I have experience and I've traveled around a lot. I've experienced a higher percentage of black folk wearing a mask than white folk.

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That has been my experience.

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I've noticed that. Yeah, well, I've traveled. I think you have to travel around a little.

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Yeah, I well, we know that the we know that the anti mascaras are exclusively white. I mean that that much we know every, every, every piece of footage we've seen from any Kozko, someone wrestling with somebody or yelling at somebody they never see a black person without the mask.

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There's Herman Cain, although do we still count on him? Oh, Brian, those Twitter accounts still active. Phuket's right this morning.

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It's right. I got that. My favorite tweets. I was gonna serve that up. I saw that. I thought of you. All right. Now, the discussion was on. Let me get my earnestly biggart, which is black people are wearing a mask. It appears to be at a higher or more consistent rate than white people. And I suggested to the person I was talking to, well, if ninety three percent of black people are Democrat and Democrats are more apt to wear the mask than a Republican and white is kind of split down the middle, Republican, Democrat, well, then that would make some sense to me, right?

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Sure.

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There's some correlation there for sure. And then the person I was speaking to said, but I. I have noticed that many of them have the mask down under the nose and then earnestly Biggert said, well, maybe it's because they're used to wearing their pants that way.

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I'm just asking. I'm just asking.

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He's just not making a declarative statement. He's simply asking the question I'm asking.

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He's just earnestly bigot is just asking. If the folks are wearing their pants down low, then wouldn't it make sense that everything slid down a wrong.

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Yeah, I mean, it's worth studying when you put it like that. Or maybe your shirts unbuttoned one extra button, maybe that draws the pants slide down one, maybe everything slides down, maybe of the ball cap comes down a little lower, you know what I'm saying? But everything, maybe everything just drops down a notch.

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It's an important observation the pants may create.

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Look, I'm just asking. But I'm I'm just saying. And ask the pants create like a vacuum that actually pulls the mask down as the pants drop down.

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Everything slides, navigational thing. It's that that's what I'm saying. This is pure gravity. Earnest just asking, that's all.

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Hey, Earnest, speaking of that, really, really revelant and poignant observation, did you hear that in Compton, what the fines are going to be for no masks? They have finals in Compton. Oh, we did the story last night, so apparently the first time's a warning.

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Hold on your juice. Are you not? I'm a I'm a Jewish. How do you of all people know what's going on in Compton? Oh, because I control the news.

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Because I work for the news. A news organization. You mean does it all snap back into focus? Your dad controls the news. You're little lady. Well, she'll inherit the news, Mr..

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But you've got to have an older brother. We can't let the juices run everything. The Jews run everything.

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You understand juices. They're the worse. Yeah. They're just there to polish the dill pickle of their view of the Jews that run everything. When I say Jews run, control the media, I'm not talking about juices.

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I didn't realize that.

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No, you were shrewd. So this call for reminding me of my problem. Yeah, not really. So you heard from a Jewish fella? I heard from a Jewish boss, which I guess you can just say.

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That's right. You troller, right? Yeah.

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That they're joining the list of cities giving fines to people who aren't wearing covering. So first time's very first time, the warning second violation in Compton for being caught without your mask.

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Five hundred dollars. Third violation. Seven hundred and fifty fourth. A thousand. A thousand dollars.

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Oh, I don't I don't know if folks know a lot about L.A. in the L.A. area, but we used to, like, confiscate cars, like if we pull over a guy and he didn't have documentation or proper driver's license or any proof that he owned the car, we used to take the car and impound him. We don't anymore because nobody everyone was just kind of leave on. Good luck getting the good folks around then to write that cashier's check to the city of Compton for five.

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I bet you could hand those things out all day long. I think there's just be I don't think I think we're living in a world where people would mail away that check to the city of Compton any more, could they?

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Yeah, I get this, but it's like I don't know, I'm trying to figure this out because Garcetti, who is our mayor, is very you know, people call him yoga pants. And, you know, mister, you know, sort of like on yoga pants.

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Yes. Well, Johnny can do. Yeah, OK. Maybe yoga pants, you know, just very like I'm everybody's best friend. I'm a squishy teddy bear. And then it's like we want everyone to wear the mask. But now it's kind of nice because you're dealing with people who may be struggling right now. You're dealing with people of color who may be struggling and you're going to give them a five. I couldn't afford a five hundred dollar fine right now.

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I know Garcetti and I know everything in this land is optics. It's all optics. As I was explaining to my son on one of our many walks when we're getting pelted by leaf blowers and he said they should make those illegal. And I said they are illegal. They've been illegal for twenty years and now in L.A. and he's like, well, why do they never enforce them? Because poor brown people are the ones that are operating them. And no one likes the optics of coming down on the poor brown man.

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So the optics of this sound bad from yoga pants. So I'm guessing it feels to me like probably someone who has a little more pigment in their skin from Compton, who's a city, whatever is the one that's imposing this, or at least suggesting that the thug would have to imagine. You don't this ain't the were I can't picture him.

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I can't picture Garcetti waltzing into Compton and going, here's the rules, brother. No. And by the way, if you want to go to Encino, no problemo. But here, this is what you guys do. I can't see that. I'll bet you probably logic in that. Yeah. There's going to be like some Maxine Waters version of Compton, Persons' City Council person provided this or floated this this weather balloon. That's my prediction.

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If I it they do say that cases in Compton specifically are growing exponentially. So maybe they're just couching it as, hey, this is how much we care.

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You know, we like parents communities to a lot more than it hurts you. Yeah.

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Yeah. Which I'm all fine with that. Just everything now is optics and I just can't imagine Garcetti implementing that. Did you find anything, Max, happening? All right. So let's see. We have a shooter wrote down here.

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I have I have a theory. I was doing an interview with a Navy SEAL named Cade earlier earlier in the day. That's a Navy SEAL name. Yeah, it'll be on take a knee coming up. And I started discussing this this mechanical world and this emotional world, but also the input of accepting information. And so I'm going to lay out a theory and an. You guys tell me what you think, which is. The the process of ingesting information, yes, I'm sorry, yes, before you go any further.

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Yes. I wouldn't say a deep dive in any way. I clicked on another thing.

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How do you do it? How do you do it?

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Apparently, this is there was a quote saying, you know, we really care about this community. This is how it has to be, says city attorney Geraldine Blackman.

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Creg Cornwall. And what let's just let's look up city manager Craig Cornwall.

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He is a brother and a half. All right, now, now it's all back. All right. You were saying, well, I'll circle back to pat myself on the ass cheek and then we'll get on with this idea. I want to float in front of you, which is, I'm telling you people you will know everything by knowing nothing. You study patterns. You don't study information, study patterns. So Gina Grad is a seasoned news veteran who does the news on KFI and knows the news.

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So when she comes in and goes, hey, do you hear this story I reported last night, Garcetti is going to impose fines. And Compton, I think to myself, you have all the information. I have no information, but I have I own all the the patterns to the patterns. Wow. I own the pattern, the pattern office, not the patent office. The pattern office, you know what I mean? And I think to myself now, first off, who am I to say you're incorrect with your news story?

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You're the one who I didn't I never heard of this until you open your mouth. Right. And you've already reported it. So I'm like thinking you have all the information. But then you have to think what trumps information in today's era is patterns. Patterns, trump information. Now, sadly, we used to just work off of information. Now you have to factor in the pattern and the information. And Garcetti is not only the whitest guy in Los Angeles, but he's also very conscious of how he comes across to credibly and never stops talking about people of color and the disenfranchised and the communities that can't afford whatever.

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It's a non-stop talking point for him. And the idea that this guy would put his name on, you know, Garcetti says five hundred dollar fine for the black folk who live in Compton who won't wear a mask or don't wear mask. Sounds almost impossible to me. Yeah, even though he's the mayor and Compton, you know, in Los Angeles and kind of makes sense and even you reported it. So then you go into this next ratha, which is dig around and see who imposed it.

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And then the guy's name is Craig Domani or whatever you will call. Yeah, his name is Craig Cornwall, which really sounds like.

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What's the white guy's name in the PSA, Brian. Oh, gram Wellington.

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What? Yes, hello. My name is Graham Wellington.

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Yeah, Craig Cornwall. Sounds like his cousin. Right, right. Like they go to Martha's Vineyard every summer. So now you go.

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The guy's name is Craig Cornwall. And I'm like, oh, but he still has to be black in my world because that can't just be some red haired guy who's in Compton who's decreeing that all his black subjects wear a mask. And then you show picture of the guy and he's he's a brother. And now now we're back to where we were.

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We were aligned. Right.

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And I do it just for anyone who's going to atme and tweet me. Please don't bother, because when we think of the city of L.A., we think of, you know, especially when we live here, we think of every neighborhood that we can drive to. And I looked it up and I think Aja Brown is the mayor of Compton, not Mayor Garcetti.

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I'm sorry, but we think he is the he is the face of all of Los Angeles Mayor Garcetti.

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Right. But again, keep yourself tuned. And when you keep yourself tuned and Genographic goes, Garcetti says you got to wear a mask in Compton. You're like, all right, I'm tellin some something's wrong with that story, miss.

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And once you're tuned, then you'll you'll you'll do it. You'll have a really high batting average of what what is happening. And it doesn't it doesn't ever mean you should go liar it. What it means is you go, OK, noted. Let me investigate this a little bit. And now we have our answer.

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OK, Cornwall.

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So the the avenue for information that and what I was talking to Navy SEAL Cade about was why are so many people reluctant, resistant or whatever to these words of of advice they these these avenues for achieving something for, you know, here's what you should do and here's what you're doing. Too much of this and not enough of that or whatever. And I thought to myself, I wonder if it starts off those avenues, the highway to the information that is penetrating you, hopefully as an adult.

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I wonder if that highway is built in a real tangible, physical, instructional kind of way. As a young person like you, white, you you you're a young person and you hunt, you know, and your dad's telling you how to hold the rifle and how to gut the elk and how you know, how to do with and how to do that. You know, it's a whole bunch of rules. Are you play Pop Warner football or later on you become a carpenter or something.

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And there's all this kind of mechanical, tangible highway of information, you know? And so if you're going to work in a trade, are going to work in a mill or you're working heavy equipment or something like that, then there's a constant kind of here's the information. Here's what you have to learn. If you don't if you as we get away from that part of life, as we get away from the kind of tangible mechanical, you know, the dad's going to go up on the roof with the sun, explain to him how to patch the roof or how to start the car.

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Yeah, whether it's hunting the aforementioned hunting or little league or whatever it is like there's a process, there's steps. You know, you have to learn if there has to become muscle memory.

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Right. Wrote And we're getting away from the just the part where I imagine the everyone had to go through the ritual back in the day of I'm going to teach you how to drive a stick, you know, get in the car, you know, fire it up, push the clutch in. You know, when you put it in first. No, you're in third. You've got to pull it closer to your hip, you know, but that's first gear.

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You'll feel it in first, you know, when you start letting the clutch out and give it some gas. Oh, you stalled it. All right. Let's try it again. Work that little dance between your right foot and your left foot and so on and so forth.

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As we get away from that and we get away from the kind of physical instruction world of, again, just learning to drive a stick when you're 15 and a half or hunt or repair things or whatever that is. I wonder if the highway isn't getting built like that, if that information where people are going to where I have a I feel like my highways in place because of all the physical instruction I got my whole life, and now I can hear ideas while also now passed down that same highway that was built.

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But like there's so many people and I've experienced a few of them where they're, you know, they're nineteen and you're sitting down and going, here's what it's going to take and here's what's going to do. But there's no highway. They never built their highway. It's just you're just it's an old man talking. And and I know there's exceptions, both directions. But I'm saying is I wonder if getting away from the instruction, you know, might my kids just don't get the instruction that I got.

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They just don't have the people in their lives telling them what to do and what not to do. Yes, right.

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I was so I'm going to say something you probably don't want to hear. But I wonder if part of the reason only because you mentioned your kids, part of the reason is a push pull thing.

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We're like, that's why I can't say at a young age, but why at a certain age homework is important because for most of us who go to work in the corporate world, your life is going to be projects and due dates. And please get this done by the end of the day or please guys down by the end of the hour or we here's a project, you and the team we're working on for the next month. And I wonder if homework is being devalued a little bit or the right kind of homework on I mean, like math problems.

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I mean, like project based stuff like in middle school and high school, they should be doing like, all right, you have a project to do in a month. That that's accountability and that's accountability, not just yourself, but to the team.

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You know what I mean? Well, is what life ends up being for 80 percent of adults.

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I agree exactly what Ryan said. Just just to simplify working with deadlines. Oh, no, I, I the the homework part in terms of the you're responsible for this and it has to be turned in Monday morning. That part I like I'd probably like it better if they said you have to go home and build a hummingbird feeder and bring it in Monday morning.

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I'd probably like that frankly, than spelling or that I do my homework.

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Thing is, is kind of two fold, which is I feel like you you go to school for seven or eight hours a day. When you punch out, you should just be done with school. That I don't like the assigning of more to do when you get home there. It's kind of three fold. I feel like, especially at eleven or twelve, you've paid your debt to society. You got dropped off at school. At seven thirty, you came back at three thirty.

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You're done with school today. That's my feeling that the part where you do more when you get home, I don't really like the real part. There's two other real parts of this. One is, is it ends up creating a bunch of stuff for you to do at home, like arguments like I need more of this and you're not that you got to help me and all that kind of stuff. But it also in a world where we're talking about the haves and the have nots, the folks that can hire tutors are professional parents with like flexible schedules and stuff like that are much more able to do that stuff.

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If you're talking about, you know, the mayor of Compton, we're talking about those people going back with the single mom is working two jobs. I don't know. Good luck getting that homework assignment in. But let's. Where Sunny, can Sunny hear me? I got them in here and tell him I want one more performance out of him.

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So I agree with that. I agree with the exposure, with the I'm sorry. I agree with the part where you have a task. And he must complete it.

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Sunny. Where's Santino? We've decided we don't like your academics like you does either. I heard you talking about how you don't like homework, and I'm going to insist that you do more homework.

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Get the hell out of here. Have go take some drugs in the parking lot. Light a cigarette for me.

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That's it, that's it. I'll I'll bring in when Cranston comes in and he can you can ask him a question. All right. Is that your favorite show or Breaking Bad? Yeah.

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Yeah. What about the Mancia? Remote doesn't work. What about the other day when I wanted to watch my standup special in the theater I built? And you said that the remote didn't work?

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I didn't say the remote didn't work. It wouldn't download. We bought it and then it didn't work. Yeah, we bought it and then it didn't register. Right. Right.

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But what if that was Breaking Bad? Do you think you could have solved the problem?

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I think I would have put more effort into it, yes.

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Or some effort into it. I like the honesty. I put some effort into it.

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I mean, let's let's see if we can do a breakdown of the movie theater in the house. What percentage of of the daddy pay for and what percentage of it to daddy work on?

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You paid for at least 99 percent of it. All right.

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We can round that. And my and the work part, the work you did, I'm like. Two, three percent or three percent? I built that goddamn research, are you kidding me? Oh, I thought you said that it seems like something you'd have to do.

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This is a blurry line that everyone has. You know, whenever I go, I rebuilt this house and referred. Did you hang every sheet of drywall? No, I did not. I did not spread every square inch of stucco. I did not hang every sheet of drywall. I did not haul every load of garbage to the dump, though I did not. I paid for it all. I designed it all and I did much of it. But no, I did not spread every ounce of joint compound on the drywall contractor driving by the house of the sun, going and see that house on a built that was like you built build, right?

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It's like, well, no, I do not need a hammer this tutton. Right.

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So the point is, is I built that theater and I paid for that theater.

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Now I built a good amount of it. You did not have that for half a day.

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All right. Now, let's break down percentages in terms of people in the house who utilize the theater.

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Me, your number one, no, not no, Natalia and her friends too much, number one. All right.

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So there again, there is zero percent help with 89 percent utilization rate.

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Yeah, I'm like a 10 percent percent help with a 71 percent percent. Hell, yeah. Mom's zero percent with 102 percent utilization rate. Yeah. And I'm at ninety nine percent with a zero percent utilization rate. Ninety nine percent and 10 percent don't add up to 100 percent.

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You don't need homework. All right. It just makes the bad students worse. And that's why I'm such a bad student.

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Oh right. So you creates a chasm.

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Yeah. I was testing business as a rocket. That's right. I'm good at testing. My average test score was 95. Oh my.

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And I'm still a very bad student right out of one hundred and ten out of out of a hundred HIV test. Oh come on Ryan. That's what you want.

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All right. Go compose a question for Mr. Cranston and we'll. All right.

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Those many. I don't know which one of you has, though. All right. Well, kill off your darlings, but yeah. With a called.

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Test them out. Yeah. What you got?

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I want to ask him about what he thinks Vince Gilligan's going to do, OK, in the future.

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And if he's going to have a small role in season five of better, call Saul back burner that question.

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Yeah.

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You should ask him about his Mars call and tell him and give a real intense review of what you thought of it, of his of his of his, like, role in Tequila Killer Company. Oh, it's got to be sunny.

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All joking aside, I know you're a huge Breaking Bad fan, but generally don't ask super famous people what they think other famous people are going to do.

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You know, that makes sense. You may not. Now, I talked to Vince Gilligan.

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You have do you have a favorite moment from the show that really sticks with you? Because that might be something he'd want to hear about it.

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Probably I think it was the last episode of Season four or one of the last, it was where he was in the crawl space and he was like, laugh, crying. I knew it.

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So it was a very good. Excellent. Excellent.

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Yes, that's perfect. Ask him about it. What he was thinking. I knew it.

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Yeah, that is that is that is the pinnacle moment that all bets are off. Perfect. Perfect moment, Sunny. Yeah. But you know what it what it took to get into character for that. Was it easy? Was it hard? That's a that's a perfect moment to bring up.

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OK, I'll talk to him about that. All right. Do that both. All right. All right. So we'll do that in a second. I got a couple of phone calls up here. Let's see. Wants to share a recent experience. Turning left on a red and old lady. Couldn't wouldn't budge. C p. Forty seven Washington.

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Hmm. All right, hold on. Can you hear me all right. Hold on. Someone hears people on one supposedly. Oh, yeah.

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Hitlist want to step down. All right. Markoe, 46, Albany, New York. That's me.

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Thank you for having me back on the world's greatest podcast. Thank you. World's greatest caller. What do you got?

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Oh, I'm leading a discussion of your film company next week in May Racial Justice Work Group. I just watch it for the second time and I wondered if I could get on and ask you a couple of questions. Sure.

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What racial discussion work group do you have?

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Yeah. What kind of job has this? So I am an attorney, I work for the state of New York and my group, you know, we prosecute violations of administrative statute.

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Oh, OK, girl, I fucking kill myself. What do you mean? I work for the fucking city. What do you do telling business like how to run their business? How's it work? I work for the state, other states, and, you know, there are rules, and when these rules are violated, the violators pay a fine or sometimes they get their license suspended or revoked.

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How much of it is legitimate versus what you would call sort of ancillary stuff?

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What's an example of like a typical complaint or something you investigate? So, well, I don't know, I don't want to get into that, I want to talk about it. All right.

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But how much of it would you consider substantial versus a nuisance? In my case, everything we do is substantial, really well, maybe once it gets once it gets to you. Okay. All right. That's right. And I can I can you know, and I also mediate a lot of these crimes, prosecute if it is a you know, I'm a great admirer of your anathema to your philosophy.

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OK, well, thank you. So uppity discussion. Well, let me so let me start with the first thing you know, was it the racial injustice angle that attracted you to the project in the first place?

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No, I mean, it's I don't know. I don't know if you separate, it's kind of hard to separate things. There's good subjects for docs and there's bad subjects for docs and will always find racial injustice appealing.

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Where the were attracted to.

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I got my head on a racial injustice swivel. I'm like a linebacker dropping back into his hook zone, so I'm always looking for that angle. But I thought Willie was a great subject for a documentary.

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I mean, he absolutely is, he's such a compelling character. Yeah, that's that's that's the way we felt.

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So now, I mean, watching it today in these times, I couldn't really see it any other way do one thing I noticed was it seemed to me like really maybe would have done better, actually a little more diplomatic. And she seemed remorseless in the film. She get her admit such a thing.

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No, he that's kind of the nuance of it, because you're always kind of left to wonder, was it racism or is it really just being you know, he could be abrasive and aggressive and, you know, he punched guys at the track and. Right. And I think I think you're scared of what you're left to kind of think about or wrestle with as it was kind of some of each, you know, there were elements of both. It wasn't this or that.

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It was an element. Right. You've got a black guy and that may have been OK, but now the black guy is on top of the roof celebrating like Muhammad Ali. And there's an element of like we race cars, we don't get up on roofs and do the Ali shuffle. So there's kind of an element of that. And it's, you know, it's kind of hard to tell. Like if there was a white guy who got up on the roof and did the shuffle back, then, they may have frowned upon that as well.

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So they wouldn't they wouldn't have taken it personally.

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Probably my favorite nuances of the film is that it's not just, you know, Willis'. He is a victim. He was. But at the same time, I mean, you know, it's a certain extent, but the same time will he didn't do himself any favors. You know, I'm mean, going to top the car and dancing. And he was abrasive. And it makes a very interesting, nuanced sort of case.

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Well, and there's a line in the documentary that sums it up perfectly when Willie says they called me uppity and I loved it. Mm hmm.

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I mean, what else do you need to know about Willie don't now? And he said the whole you can't isolate it out, right? It's hard to.

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But look, I, you know, I, I don't I made the film and I don't know. So I you know, how could you how could how could Willie lived it and he might not know exactly what was racism and what was again just him, him acting in a way that rubbed people the wrong way. But you have any other questions?

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Marco, I thank you for doing this. I absolutely do have other questions here, how about a fun question at some point brings up the Deacon Jones, has that prompted or organic? The if someone who brings it up, I think Willie brings it all right. Oh, Willie. Oh, right. It's a guy like Deacon Jones doing the head. All right. That's right. Yeah.

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That that was complete happenstance, Willie, just of the age where he would have been familiar with Deacon Jones in his head slap. And he used that as an example of saying, I didn't punch the guy. I gave my head slap like a Deacon Jones head slap. That's right.

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Because when you go upside, a man or woman had threatened to blink their eyes. That's my favorite quote of all, the NFL. I know you love that.

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I have a great Easter egg.

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I love it. Thank you, Marty. I love it. Not because I'm pro head slapping women. I love the fact that the NFL Network, whoever whacked that thing together, NFL Films just left it in there and they edit it out. Now, it's the most easily edited piece in the world because he goes, I tend you know, when you go upside a man's head at it, they tend to blink their eyes. And then you go to game footage, you know what I mean?

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You don't have to move that over with some old footage of him rushing doing that slap.

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It's the easiest thing to remove ever. And yet they left it in for 30 years until I spotted it and started yelling about it on the radio every ten minutes. And now it's just goalpost.

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Sometimes I said slots. There's always social change.

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All right. Real quick here, Brett, 32, San Diego, called a couple of months ago about getting into jujitsu. And you want to give us an update?

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Yeah. And, you know, there's nothing good. Hey. So, yeah, when I called in a couple of months ago, I had I actually had a couple of strikes on my wife, though, and I was just about to give up and I said, yeah, man just showed up early and often I kept going, put my head down on the ground, grind it out, just received my blue bill on Tuesday night.

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So I just wanted to, you know, say thanks. And yeah, I just I got called in and I was in that file, were thinking about giving up and yeah, I did it obviously. And I just took the advice that terrorists had been saying for years deliberately and often, you know, sit down, pay attention. I did. And then actually have almost had a question or I call and rather it is I know you say you always have a really good memory.

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About 10 years ago in Fresno, California, I don't know if you recall running into two drunk guys that didn't quite know what they wanted from you.

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Yeah, I do. Oh, yeah.

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I'll bet you you're talking to a and that was I was actually my might be my buddy. And.

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Well, to refresh your memory, when were leaving the theater in Fresno, we're walking out the back. We'd already spent, you know, an hour in the lobby signing autographs and taking pictures and doing what we used to do back in the day when people could line up and shake your hand. And then we walked out the back. You and your body were just drunk and kind of hanging out and you're like, could we get a picture? And I was like, yeah, OK.

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All right. So it's a little knowing because these are people that didn't wait in line in the front of the place. They just hung out in the back and drank beer.

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And eventually when you walk out the back, made it much more difficult on themselves. They could have gotten this over with half an hour ago.

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Well, they could, but I think sometimes they go across the street and have a beer, wait for the line to run out and then, yeah, Russia guy in the parking lot. But then so we like could we get a picture, like, get up, took a picture and then you said like I could you sign this or something. I can sign this. And I was kind of walking, getting in a car and as I was getting in the car, you and your body were like, oh so that's it, that's all.

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And I, I remember going up on stage the next night or wherever I was, and I ended up turning into a bit, which is basically what do you want, a blowjob by the dumpster like. What do you mean that's all. Yes, that's all. Thanks.

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All right. Shall we do a little news with Gina Grande?

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Let's do it with great news with Genographic breaking by all those crazy Trump tweets. Give me no trouble in the Middle East. Pretty strong balance sheet music, Jean. Jean. The news with Jena grad, so just yesterday, I believe we were talking about, or at least within the last couple of days about how we don't really expect peace in the Middle East to come any time soon.

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Well, maybe Trump is going to help push that along a little bit because he says a peace agreement has been agreed upon by Israel and the United Arab Emirates. On Twitter, Trump called the agreement between our two great friends a huge breakthrough. Speaking in the Oval Office, Trump told reporters that the two countries will exchange embassies and ambassadors and begin cooperation across the board. And he said they expect he expects other countries to follow the lead on this going forward.

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So good luck. Iraq and Iran and Lebanon and Jordan. Syria did it.

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Maybe not at the time. It may be nice. It may be. I wonder, you know, this country is becoming more secular. We're just kind of drifting away from religion. Do you think these other countries that are I mean, the religion is kind of feel like it's it's driving a lot of the animus and the fighting and the you know, it all seems to be this group against that group, you know what I mean?

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Maybe maybe the world will sort of drift away from religion and maybe as it drifts away, maybe these tensions will cool a little possible.

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I don't know if I see the trend being just a drift away from religion gradually. Yeah, for sure.

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Well, and when you put it like, you know, when you talk about Sharia law or something, something that's I mean, ages and ages and eons old and that's controlling, you know, stoning women or, you know, you know, mercy killing because somebody was raped or whatever, the things that are just such a bygone era that we couldn't even wrap our heads around. If that's based in religion and that starts to erode, then yeah, I guess I would consider that a step in the right direction.

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Well, I just imagine as the night goes for many religions as the.

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Yeah, we know the ones you're talking about. All right.

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The as the world gets older. We get percentages less religious every 10 years, you know, it just it just goes it just has to go that way. There's more data and more science and more satellites in the air and and whatever. So it would make sense that that would affect that would be true globally. It just it just would. And maybe maybe that's part of it. Maybe, maybe maybe we'll incrementally get there just through this long slog.

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Now, of course, would be nice just to fast track it by all these assholes not killing each other in the name of religion. But if that's not going to work, then maybe we just have to read the religion out or have a lesser percentage involved anyway. All right. We'll keep our fingers crossed.

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Well, more White House news. Carnage recently took a meeting with Trump's son in law and White House staffer Jared Kushner, according to TMZ.

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Despite the no politics rule on his vacation with Kim in the family, Carney reportedly snuck off to privately meet with Kushner while the wife over the family was in Colorado, a ivonka Jared and Konya apparently linked up in Telluride and Colorado. Carney tells The New York Times that he talked about black empowerment and he tweeted out, I'm willing to do a live interview with The New York Times about my meeting with Jared, where we discussed Dr. Claude Anderson's book, Power Nomics.

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How are you going to have a secret meeting in this day and age until The New York Times, you'll tell them all about it now.

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Feels like it sabotaged who who out who outed them?

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Was it a secret meeting the house? Conway just outed himself.

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Sounds like it. Yeah. He told them they had a secret meeting and he'll tell you all about it.

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He'll make the world's worst criminal. I could you imagine, like trying to pull a caper off with him. Now, listen, mum's the word. We never met you. I understand you're a good cook. Mum's the word.

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I'm talking this plannings. Oh no.

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Jesus Christ. What a crazy world. You know, Kanye was at Danny two sheets wedding in Texas will never tell you guys no love, no Danny.

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Two sheets was probably married about twelve years ago, I would say.

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And in Texas, trying to think of how we could figure that one out, trying to Matt might have it on my calendar or something, but Kanye was definitely invited and he definitely was there. We're going to need more.

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I'm sorry. That's all I really remember. How do they know each other? I think Chyna a. I maybe this is true because it was true for Eminem, so I don't know if it's a universal thing, but Kanye, I think, loved cranky anchors and I think Kanye contacted Daniel to, like, had his own idea for, you know, it's crazy. Kanye, right? You like watching a show going, I love that show. I'm get hold of the guy who does that show and we're going to do our own show.

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So I think there was some of that. Wow.

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As opposed to Eminem, who just did a bit. Kanye bought a ticket and a tux and went to the wedding.

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Yeah. So they had that. They had that relationship. Yeah.

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That is my my mind is blown. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I should have brought that up at the time. You know what I was thinking. Can you please can we get some more information from Danny, because this is this is a big one.

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This is a this is a big discovery. Yeah. Well, I'll hit him up. I remember I think Kanye was there and I think people got really drunk and had to throw him out or some version of a version of that.

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I know he's working on a puppet show with Kanye a few years back. He was working on a puppet show with Kanye Future. Like, I don't think that's the same show. Oh, yes. OK, I'll go with that. So they got quite a revelation. I know.

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So Uber may not be in California much longer.

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And can I say this the same way? Yeah, that was one of the rare instances where I got so drunk the night before. I couldn't effectively play softball the next day. Oh, and that's a that's a level of drunk that I don't normally get to talk to because I can usually tie went on the night before and still play some pretty damn decent softball the next afternoon. I was fucking useless. I was popping up every time I got to the plate.

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I remember Kevin Hampshires, like, disgusted with me. He's like, what happened? I thought, you're good. So popular. I got I got folks are sweating beer shots out. And we went to some barbecue place the night before and just everyone just tied one on. I think it was in kind of must have been.

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I must have been in Austin, must have went to Austin anyway. Once.

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Yeah, I seem to I seem to recall was around it was around there, but not too drunk to play softball the next day.

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That drunk. All right. Sorry, Liftin over. Yeah.

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We might not have Uber and Lyft here very much longer. Just depends on how things roll. So they might have to shut down their retailing operations in California if a court ruling that blocks it from classifying its drivers as independent contractors goes into effect. This is according to Fox News. Big story right now. California judge Monday granted the state's request for a preliminary injunction blocking Uber and Lyft from classifying their drivers as independent contractors rather than employees. Several hundred thousand.

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These are gig workers and the gig economy, the CEO said in a statement to CNBC. If the court doesn't reconsider that in California, it's hard to believe we'll be able to switch to our model full time, a full time employment quickly. I want to say, was this a B was the proposition.

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But yeah, everybody had to switch from being an independent contractor to being an employee or basically owning your own business and being contracted that way. So if people are just five, sorry, maybe five.

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Thank you. Then that doesn't fly in California anymore. If they took them on, they would have to give them, you know, a certain pay benefits. And Uber is like, how do how that would that would eviscerate our our our business model?

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Well, the thing is, is Uber is the price. It is and Uber is whatever it is, because they sidestep the business model that we have with cabs and medallions and all the official. So this is like it's one of those things where you have a model, the models not that efficient, it's the models don't get a lot of competition and then they grow less efficient. And before you know it, you've got the L.A. Unified School System and then somebody says, I got an idea, I'm going to go start my own school and put out a better product at a cheaper price.

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And that's kind of left in Uber. And the government kind of is stymied for a little bit. They go like, Huh, oh, what are you doing? I guess it sounds OK. And then eventually they go, wait a minute, how do we get paid or what? A lot of money off what's in it for us. And then they start to work it out and then eventually they come back and go, hey, that charter school, you got to start paying for or whatever that thing is.

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So that kind of figure it out and and for us and remember all the food trucks. Yeah. It's like there's like an early version of this where it's like these how how safe is this going to be? These guys aren't bonded or whatever it is. And it's like we don't care who picks us up, drives us somewhere.

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But the the so the the problem is and look, I can kind of see both sides, so but here's where my ultimate decision. Here's how I render my decisions. I get that Uber and Lyft are sidestepping this thing in order to save themselves a bunch of money and in order to have. And that's why they can do things much cheaper than traditional companies because they don't have them as employees. They don't have to pay for, you know, medical or overtime or whatever.

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And you go, well, that's that's not right. But on the other hand, where I usually come down on it is when you go home, you're taking advantage of this person who is driving for your company. And my feeling is, is you don't have to drive for the company if you don't want to be an independent photographer in Los Angeles.

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And we're getting away from the like that, that the journalists who write for numbers of newspapers and work part time or whatever it is, you don't have to do anything if you feel like you're being taken advantage of now, you know, back the day would put you in a sweatshop and lock the door and you'd be 11 and you had to make shoes or whatever it was. We used to have that in in the United States. But now, if you most people I talk to who drive for Uber and I would talk to a lot of the drivers, we're like, yeah, I like it.

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I make good money. I do it on my own terms.

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And my my guess is that of our listeners who are Uber and Lyft drivers, the majority of them actually want to be like, yeah, just please let me drive and make some money. I don't think they I can't imagine they care too much about being independent contractors versus employees. Like, remember there, let me have a vacation.

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They did want to unionize because they thought they were getting screwed in terms of the cut that the company takes, you know, for each whatever it is, if it's a ten dollar trip, I don't know what the percentage, but it's and they thought it was it's it's it's a balance.

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It's going to be hard to strike. Perfectly, but to me, the ultimate decider is you don't have to work for Uber or left if you feel like they're being unfair or you should be an employee and you should get full benefits or whatever, then you've got to go go to in and out burger and get a job.

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Yeah, the CEO of Uber actually wrote a piece in The New York Times the beginning of this week, kind of stating that he's calling for a change in the employment system and that it's flawed inherently. And he says in public surveys over the last decade, the vast majority of drivers have said they don't want to be employees because of how much they value flexibility.

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Yeah, I'm always on the side of the smart guys and never on the side of the government when it comes to we're imposing this thing that's going to help these people.

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Well, and that's what I don't understand. And this I mean, I'm coming at this from a fairly naive place, so please help me understand it.

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If they think they're helping the worker, then they're wrong.

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I had to incorporate I had to spend money that I didn't have to become a corporation so I could work for certain voiceover and certain other things because they weren't allowed to hire an independent contractor. I lost money on that. It's very expensive to do that. And I don't know, am I being helped because I had to form a company to do a job I was doing already? I don't I don't understand how that help me.

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I always kind of feel like it's like Sagen after I like, hey, we're going to force you to join our union and then we're going to help you. And it's like I'd like to not join your union. Well, you have to so we can help you. So I think the government is a little that way as well. All right.

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What else we got? Jenah So you probably know this by now, but we hadn't discussed it. We talked about college, but NFL players were given until last Thursday afternoon at 4:00 p.m. to tell the league whether or not they'll they're going to play the upcoming season due to covid-19 at the deadline. Sixty six players have submitted their decision not to play in the upcoming season. Only three teams recorded no opt outs. And any thoughts on who those were?

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Oh, Dallas Cowboys.

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No, no, I you know, if all the 49ers and I don't remember any 49ers opting out, according to this report, the Falcons, the Chargers and the Steelers.

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Oh. Hmm.

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That seems to be a good rhyme or reason there. So no opt outs for those three teams. I wonder what these six overall. Sixty six out of ten. So it's like two to two people per team or something. Something of that nature. Wait a minute now. Sorry, four people but three for those 32 teams. That's a third. I'm trying to do the math. Yeah.

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OK, so a little over two per team but yeah, a little over two per team.

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Not too bad now. So I don't know. I mean they you know, they showed a couple people, I nobody made big, you know, the marquee light bulbs around.

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Oh my God, this is our star player.

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So I don't know if it's anyone that mainstream people who aren't crazy football core will miss or will have them on your fantasy team.

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The beauty you don't know the beauty of the sport of football is no one or two guys can affect that team as much as they could, as if, you know, a couple of guys on the Lakers decided to set or a couple of guys in other sporting venues. I don't even know. I don't know. I'm not sure if soccer's that way, more so or not. But football, if there's one thing that Bill Belichick has taught us over the last twenty years is that you can swap this guy for that guy and do some winning.

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That's funny.

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You mentioned this, I think was a number of patriots. Like I think Patriots had a few notable names like Jimmy Collins and a couple of notable coming in that's not, you know, household names, but notable names to football fans. So it'll be interesting to see if Belichick can kind of reload. If this is kind of an off year, let's play for a draft pick or maybe Belichick is hedging his bets with the first year without Brady. Paying out a couple of notable names to sit out so he can go, wow, we didn't have our starting quarterbacks either.

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Yep. Although Savarin that Sammy. Yeah.

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Let's do one more Genographic. All right. So, you know, when you go through the obits, they're pretty sad and we hear about how wonderful people were and who they'll be missed by.

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You know what I feel I'll tell you what I feel bad about for the celebrity or the notable obits for this period wherein it's the reason we should all feel sorry for Farrah Fawcett for dying on the same day as Michael Jackson. And this time it's been such a weird time that any celebrity that dies have no memory of it. Yeah, it's like I can't remember who died. And there's been a few, you know, notable people that have passed in this time period.

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And it's all just kind of water off a duck's back for me. Like, I can't not it's not been an imprint or stamp in my brain.

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This would be this would lead the news every night had it not been this time with Robin and with writing. And by the way, Sumner Redstone died, which I did make me think of you.

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When did this night I hear this died yesterday.

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I believe the day before he was 97. Would you like to know what he died of?

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A broken heart at that guy just sounds insane to me. The stories that the girls and the stuff.

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But he was a code breaker in World War Two. Jesus Christ. All right, I'll.

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I'll do it all. I'll do an old Jeff Ross.

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Ninety seven. You're going to ask me what he died of. Yeah, his dune buggy turned over on the turnpike. I knew you'd get it. Yeah, that was natural causes. Natural Consolo.

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So like that like you didn't that didn't lead the news in out at all. Didn't even hear one peep about it.

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Yeah. So a 25 year old died recently in upstate New York. And the family, of course, mourning the loss of this kid. Twenty five years old name's Cody James Holland. They said he was a free spirited corrections officer and they didn't pull any punches as to why he died. They said he died because he was a dumb ass.

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According to the obituary, Holland's obituary family wrote that. Yes.

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And that's why I'm going to read you the obituary. Cody James left us on August 8th. Twenty twenty as a result of injuries sustained from being a dumb ass, he drank, drove and didn't wear his seatbelt. Please don't be a dumb ass. It goes on to describe Holland, who loved his middle finger and showing his butt to the world.

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His mother, Colleen Lynch, says she chose to make the obituary brutally honest because he was doing dumb ass things. And she said if this obituary makes even one person rethink drinking and driving, then I have no regrets.

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Jesus Christ. Wow, that's luck. Tough love. To the grave, like I mean, that is beyond. That's that's that's interesting parenting.

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I would argue, though, it's like you complaining about your kid being a total piece of shit. Isn't some of that on the parenting? Like, I don't know if you guys if you guys are nature or nurture fans, but this one's nature or nurture. Either way, he sprung from your loins and he said disrespectful sack of shit who can't hold on to you.

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Go down and look out on you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is this is she only has so much awareness. She has awareness, but not self awareness. I would argue that that's part of the problem. This person's lack of introspection when it comes to child rearing. Yeah.

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All right. Let's bring in let's not let's bring it home. Gina Grande. You got it.

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I'm Gina grad. And that's the news.

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