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Thanks for listening to the Adam Carolla Show on podcast one. Well, nobody better than Bryan Cranston, and that guy is going to be on here for the next hour or so, a very revealing, interesting email, I should say, interview. Plus, Sunny, Carol is a massive Breaking Bad fan. So I brought him in and he loaded up a couple of questions that Cranston is very generous to offer in a very meaningful way. So we have all that coming.


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Dot com slash Adam. The Adam Carolla Show presents Bryan Cranston's birthday cocktail party for March 7th. Let's see who's invited. Wanda Sykes, Jenna Fischer from the Zombies, Chris White, he's got two questions. What's your name? Who's your daddy? Jadi flosses here and Michael Eisner, former NFL Hall of Famer Lynn Swann. Author and director Brett Easton Ellis and the guest of honor, Bryan Cranston. Let's get back to The Adam Carolla Show. Wow, that's a stout that's a stacked birthday party you have in there, Bryan Cranston.


Not a bad little company to have, is it? No, we're having a big bash is going to be a thousand people tonight. We're celebrating my birthday late. No masks, nothing. We're all just going to dive into the coveted covid filled pool.


I speak in a covid filled eye and you tell me if this is true. But I was speaking of you as a hero earlier in the podcast, which is you contracted the disease. You did not tell anybody. I mean, in the media, you didn't go public with it. And then you went to donate platelets to help others who may have gotten this disease and then went public when it was suggested that you could help get more people to donate if you got the word out.


Yeah. You know, not to not to name drop, but I my wife and I are friends with Tom and Rita, and when they contracted it in March and we were surprised and we were in contact with them and and then all of a sudden, just after they got it, we got it.


It was weird.


And and Tom came out with it. And I think by him doing so, it was great. People all of a sudden went, wait a minute, fucking Tom Hanks got it. So anyone can get it. And I think really paid more attention to it. Certainly more than, you know, they would be getting information from the White House.


And and so I didn't feel it was any need to have, you know, another celebrity say, hey, I had it, too. So I didn't say anything. And then Tom told me he was donating plasma. And I thought, oh, can you give me the name? And he said, Yeah, here's a name. And so I started donating plasma. I'm doing it again for the third time next week. And while I was doing it, it was a new experience for me.


You're sitting in this really comfortable chair for about an hour. You're watching a screen television and watching a movie or whatever. And and they're drawing blood out of out of you and putting it into the centrifuge. It spins out the plasma, then puts the platelets back and blood back into your system.


So that's and the result is this big pack, these two big packages of liquid gold and it's beautiful.


And then he said it really helps those who have it to fight it off. And then part of part of that plasma donation goes to the research labs. So it's like, oh, well, this is the thing I have to do. It's not even a question. So I was videotaping it in the phlebotomists, said I remember the last time you were here, you videotaped it. And I said, yeah, it goes, would you post that?


Because our donor list has dropped off considerably and we were hoping that maybe we can get more donors. And it's like, you know what, there it is. There's a good reason to doubt myself and say, I had it. And if you had it and got through to the other side and healthy now that maybe you consider that. So that was the whole point.


How does the process work with the platelets? Is it blood out, blood in the area? Is it literally pulling it out and pushing it back in through a separate?


No, it's the same one. And actually they're taking plasma from me. So they pull out the plasma. That's where the. You know, the antibodies live in the plasma and then the platelets go, which is basically your blood cells go back into your system, but it's I guess they they draw out the blood at a certain point. Then it stops and then they push back in. I'm actually not sure I'm going to ask that next time.


I'm in June next year and you have to wait. So it's almost time to do it again because like, I used to give blood on a regular basis and I think I had to wait like seven weeks or an X amount of time in between sessions. But I don't know what the protocol is for the platelets. Are the plasma, the plasma? Yeah, the the people who have had covid-19 who no longer are infected but have the antibodies like myself, will either get a phone call if they want you to come back in or a letter saying thanks, but no thanks.


Your your your plasma is no longer needed for us because the antibody has has diminished to a point where it's not as helpful anymore. So they they called me and said, you're still good. So if you'd like come back in, I said, all right, let's do it. And it's like about every three to four weeks.


How did the disease are called a disease, but the covid-19, how did it manifest itself with you and your wife? How what were the symptoms that? Did you feel it immediately? I didn't I caught it from my wife, she got it first, and I mean, she's a very disease woman anyway, so.


Wow, you have that much sex with Tom Hanks and eventually you're going to see what I want. Sure. I can't be the first person to tell you this if it had been talked about in Hollywood for you.


Yeah, I it's funny, you know, how when you get you have whenever giving blood, you remember the nurse practitioner or the nurse is there and she's going down a list of things like do you ever use intravenous drugs.


Right. Travel to Haiti. Yeah. Have you ever traveled to Haiti? Have you ever had sex with a man before? 1985. And I always go, wait, 1985. I did relatives of 74.


No, no. Just a mess with them. But no, we were very lucky at them. We had about two days or so of, you know, that tentative feeling you have when you feel like a flu is coming on. You just your whole body feels a little achy and you feel weak. I had that for two days and then I had a temperature of ninety nine point eight for three hours. And then the next day that was gone and I had one more day of just kind of feel low, but not enough to stay in bed.


I was up and walking around, but just I felt like I wanted to take a nap every hour for for a week.


Well, is there do you think there's a correlation here? Because I've been hearing some studies and I've always talked about it myself, which is I just sort of grew up kind of a sewer rat out in the dirt, trouncing about never taking antibiotics and take antibiotics my entire life, you know, and just sort it now. Never I never had real proper medical insurance or I just kind of ride things out like I rode everything out, strep. I had strep throat.


I just ride it out, you know, and but now I don't get sick and I'm not allergic to anything and I don't have you know, I don't take I don't get acid reflux. I just don't get all the commercials I see all night. I go, no, not don't now don't have that. Don't need to see pap cleaning machine. And I don't get acid reflux and I don't have antihistamines. Yes. Tyll dysfunctional already. Yes.


Obviously I'm going to do a commercial for now. I don't have anything and I think, I think a lot of it was rolling around in the dirt my entire life. And I know you grew up in the same dirt I grew up in and your family was probably as dysfunctional and less as likely to get you proper medical attention as mine was.


And do you do you get sick less than most? Do you do you have allergies? Is there any correlation there? You know, some of the allergies that I've experienced now have come on since I've been an adult, one year I was living in New York and I was dating a really beautiful woman and we were like getting along quite well. But it was only three months into the relationship. And my birthday shows up March 7th. And she gives me a kitten.


Hmm. She gives me a kitten. Yeah.


I'm thinking I never talked about wanting a kitten. I never I live in an apartment in New York and it's like and here's a kitten. To give someone a live pet as a gift is completely out of way. And I developed an acute allergy. I was sneezing and my eyes were itchy that always. So I went to an allergist and he said, well, you're you're allergic to many things, mostly cat dander. So. Well, so I had to get rid of the cat.


Do you think her getting you a kitten is sort of the male version of you giving them lingerie? You know, I mean, it's not really for them. It's more like you want to see them in it. You know, like she wanted to hang out with the kitten in your apartment. Wasn't really so much for you.


I mean, it both involves pussy. But aside from that, let's not go down that road. I think we're already down it down that road. No, that has nothing to do with it here.


Here's giving someone a live animal that they were never talking about is like giving your wife a toaster for a present. It's like a functional household need, but that is not a present. My wife always says if it has a plug, it's not a present. So it's a little pressure on me.


So, by the way, I should explain to people that Brian has a movie out, the one and only Ivan, which is very good. I watched it last night and you can get it coming out soon. It's going to premiere on Disney plus. That'll be Friday, August 21st. Brian does a fantastic job. It's a touching movie and it's got a lot of big name voices in it. Sam Rockwell and Angelina Jolie and Danny DeVito, Helen Mirren and many, many other recognizable voices.


But Brian is doing the live action part of it. Right, Brian, I guess. I guess should be the the star of the movie.


Well, not if you look at the poster over the poster and, you know, I'm it says and Bryan Cranston. So I'm I'm I'm on the list, but I'm not I'm not at the top of the list.


I love I love your career.


And the reason I love your career is because it it didn't get out of the gate, as you know, like, I don't know, life. Garrett, you weren't a big sensation when you were 22 or 27. I mean, I like these kind of perseverence meets talent meets an evolving craft kind of story, which which is your career, which is the Bryan Cranston story, was it how and also the evolving of it.


Like, do you feel like you're getting better at it every every year? Well, it's certainly something that you you feel like I have so much to learn because I like to put myself in a position of of something new, I don't want to do Fast and Furious 17 and just show up and drive a car and look pained and then, you know, high fives, someone. And there's your movie that that kind of stuff bores me. So. And by the way, those are very, very successful movies.


I have a habit of choosing films that I really love to do, but aren't necessarily big box office, huge hits. I'm not I haven't really thought about why that is or or what, but I guess I, I like to select films that have deep and conflicting characters that the lead character is or my character would be troubled and and damaged to some degree because I can certainly relate to that, as you were alluding to before growing up in the Valley with with a middle class or lower middle class environment.


You know, my my parents blew up their marriage when I was 12, and it really, really set me back. And right at the age you think, OK, so they know what they're doing. And when I become an adult, I'll know what I'm doing. And that belief system just completely disintegrated. And so you have to kind of it took me several steps back. So through high school, I was very quiet. In high school, not too many people knew me and and I didn't know what to do exactly.


And then I stumbled on acting in college quite by accident because I just needed an elective course. And so but it was so much fun and it just so engaging and and the girls were so much prettier in theater than they were in the police science.


Getting into law enforcement at Yale, where you're a monarch, where your life away.


College guys. Yes, I was a monarch. Yeah, I went there for a little while, too. It was kind of a place to kind of was a I found it like a place you could kind of hide out in for a couple of years. So people didn't hassle you because you could tell them you're taking college classes. But I had no idea what I was doing there, just sort of hiding out. But your family.


So the more I sort of look at family, the the scariest thing you can do to a kid is sort of seem incompetent or out of control, as I think back at it now. Like, so having a father who's very stern or having a father that, you know, is very angry, let's say, or having a mother that's very stern or angry or or depressed or anything, it's all bad. But having parents that feel out of control like, oh, my God, these people don't know what they're doing, like you're in a you're in a commercial airliner.


And the pilot is Jim Backus.


And he's just hit his head and he's passed out again.


Oh, it was a mad, mad, mad world reference. But the point is, if you're in a plane and you realize the pilot doesn't know what he's doing and you're way too young to reach the pedals kind of thing, you know, was was that is this cathartic for me or is that a feeling you had with your parents?


Well, I didn't know that I had that feeling about my parents until they did. So my my mom was, you know, very insecure and susceptible, very emotional. And my dad was very ego driven. My dad was a writer and an actor, and he wasn't a star by the time he was 40. And it just really drove him crazy. And I learned from that that it destroyed him effectively. It created tremendous turmoil that blew up a marriage in the rest of his life was always, you know, on pins and needles.


It was never secure. Said live under that kind of stress was amazing. But and it all stemmed from his need to achieve some level, some plateau of stardom that I thought, well, that's the wrong way to go about it then.


So what's interesting, parents are always teaching us, constantly teaching us when we grow up in the best of the of cases, they're teaching you who you should be, who you should emulate, how you should strive to better yourself. But in some cases, like in my case, they also taught me what not to be. By being that way, yeah, but by failing at what they were doing, I realized, oh, I'm not going to be like that because that is a one way trip to disaster.


And my mom, when my dad left the family, she was she was destroyed.


She stopped living. She became an alcoholic. She was emotionally distraught from that point to the rest of her life.


Was it was she that in love with the man or was there?


Obviously, there are other other things at play, but was it just purely an obsession or in love with your dad?


My mom was wonderfully spry. She was very flirtatious. She a beautiful woman. And she she was like Blanche Dubois from A Streetcar Named Desire. She always depended upon the kindness of strangers so she would pay it. She loved the attention from men. And she was married four times. She had scores of boyfriends. She just needed that attention. So what in retrospect, what I realized about her is that she was also as lovely as she was and energetic and fun.


She was also tremendously insecure and and immature. And that combination really hit her hard when she was left by my father to four another woman, she couldn't handle it and began drinking and didn't stop drinking until she had a stroke and had to go into the motion picture hospital for the rest of her life.


When did she passed away? In 2004. Six years ago. Did.


We're looking at old pictures of you guys. My mom lets me in the front where are you guys had some kind of school or party or in Washington, D.C., you see the Capitol?


Oh, in the very back, yeah.


So I look at something I was talking to someone about earlier today, and I thought it'd be a good subject to get into with you, which is sort of, you know, kind of incremental goals, which is I think someone was saying to me, like, were you planning on being a star or having success or being rich or whatever? And I said, no, I was planning on surviving when I was about eight or nine to get out of that, you know, make it to junior high.


And then when I got out of high school, I was I was dreaming about having a job, you know what I mean? Just working, you know. And then after doing that, I started thinking about doing comedy, but I never shot past all the stages of kind of survival or I wanted to I wanted dental insurance. At some point. I wanted to I wanted insurance for my pickup truck. You know, I never shot past to start up.


You know, the idea of getting your own apartment was like, right, that's cool. Right.


And so maybe maybe that's a kind of an incremental thinking. Maybe your dad didn't do incremental thinking. Maybe he shot right back right to the Academy Awards and didn't do the I need my own place and I need some stability. Yeah.


A you know, when you let when you let ego get ahead of your progression in your field, in your talent and your abilities, it can it can derail you in in your actual goals. Everything everything takes time.


Like Malcolm Gladwell says, you could become an expert if you put in 10000 hours of service and work on any given thing.


You can become an expert to it. But charlatans will always want to circumvent that and and make their way or people who are driven by their ego. Now, my dad worked as an actor. He worked a lot as an actor, but he didn't become a star. And by not becoming a star, it it made him feel that he was a failure. So when I started out acting, my goal like you was I want to become a working actor.


If I can make my living as a working actor and I didn't put a price tag on. There wasn't a no connected to that. Just if I can pay my bills from my acting jobs, that's my success. If I go no farther than that, I would be happy. And that happened when I was 25 years old and because I didn't focus on making money but just getting better, just focus on working harder and getting better at your craft.


And then and all of a sudden a good luck started to come my way because I really loved the work. I really loved what I was doing. And I was supporting myself, my wife. She was working as an actor at the time, too. And when then we had we were able to scrape together enough to buy a little house in the valley and we had a baby. And I mean, we're like living a very middle class environment and saving our money.


And then, boom, a bunch of different things were happening. And Seinfeld and I was doing pilots and I did a couple series that didn't go anywhere. And then when I was 40, Malcolm in the Middle happens.


What was funny when you said you're talking about your dad being 40 and not having that success, and I thought Brian was probably around 40 at Malcolm in the Middle. I mean, is it coincidence? Is it is it cosmic? Is it planned? Is it planned without being conscious of a plan? I mean, your dad sort of taught you this incremental one foot in front of the other. Kind of. This this approach to this to this very low percentage endeavor called being a being a paid actor, so and I was always with I was always with you in your mindset, which is, hey, if you can get paid and you don't have to drive a taxi or work on a construction site, if you can just make a living doing something that's super low percentage, that's pretty damn good.


I mean, that's you're way ahead of the game. It's almost like saying you can make a living being a professional baseball player for the rest of your life. And you'd go, yeah, I would do that. Now, you're not going to be on the Yankees. You're not going to start at shortstop, but you'll have a comfortable living as a professional baseball player for the rest of your life. You go, oh, that's the greatest job ever.


And this is basically that essentialist. And I felt the same way.


So how old were you when you were able to make enough money by going on the road and doing standup, maybe writing here and there?


How old were you then when I started down the road to be even broader than what your goals were and your goals weren't? We're not laser focused, but at least you had a lane like your Lane was acting. When? When I was twenty one. Twenty two. And I've sit in my North Hollywood apartment on Laurel Canyon and Riverside and I was just sitting there thinking it's got to be more to life than driving a pickup truck and working on a construction site.


A bunch of guys named Mike because Mike back then was he's funny, like, where's Mike? Mike, this Tenaha Mike, the sheet rocker, which Mike which Mike got. So.


Oh, well, on the finisher, the former rebar mike or pumper Mike. Who's working the pump that Mike. Everyone's named Mike. So I was like, I got to get away from all these mikes, you know, so I was just sitting around at 21, 22, and I just thought, let's have let's do a realistic assessment. What do you think you're good at? Not what do you want to do? You want to play safety for the Rams, but that's not going to happen.


What do you what are you good at. Abilities do you have. And I said, well, I'm good with my hands and I'm a hard worker, so I'm good on a construction site and I'm funny, but I don't know what it means. I all I know is I'm funny. I don't know if that means stand up funny or work in a writers room, funny or sitcom funny. I don't know what any of it means. You're funny, almost generically funny, that's all.


And I was like, all right, well, why don't you start, you know, get up and go to work tomorrow for sure. And don't miss any days on the construction site. But at night, why don't you start pursuing the funny? Why don't you take some Groundlings classes? I don't even know what a Groundlings class was. I found somebody told me what someone's mom told me about a Groundlings class was and why don't you start, you know, taking improv classes at the church in Hollywood on Saturday morning with Mindy Sterling or whatever, whatever, Cynthia Sogeti, you know, all these people and just not even with both of them, too.


Oh, really? Yes. Yeah. And Vendy. Yes. And this is Mindy Sterling, right?


Yeah. So I was like, go over there and throw yourself on the mercy of their court, you know?


And I was, you know, real blue collar and and everyone else seemed to be educated and have some kind of background in some theater and some college. And I didn't know anything, but I said I'll just put myself into this world and and then the next day I'd be back on the construction site, you know, and and everyone would say. What are you doing, and I go, I'm taking an improv class and I go improv. Oh yeah, like Richard Pryor's playing the improv in Odigo know this is improvisational humor.


And they go, hey, how's it work? We say, how much they pay you. And I know you pay them and they go, well, get the fuck. And then one of the mikes would start making fun of you. Yeah, right.


So I just did that without any sense of direction. I just said I will go try to learn this thing. And and then eventually the Groundlings said thanks but no thanks to me. And then I started with the Acme Theater and then I built the Acme Theater on Lankershim and NoHo there and was there. And I all I was doing was kicking around and trying to learn as much as I could learn. I wasn't going on auditions. I didn't have headshots.


I didn't feel like I was ready. I didn't feel like I deserved it. Like I was like it was like the notion of why would you go out and audition? You don't have anything to offer at this point, right? That's the way I looked at it.


And so how old were you when you actually were making some money, Buck, by going on the road and doing.


I met I didn't really I didn't make any money until I was 30 and like three quarters or thirty one when I met Jimmy Kimmel and I trained him to box for the Karak morning show. Kevin and being and. Right. And I started getting like two fifty bucks a bed and two hundred bucks a bed or something. And then eventually I became the host or one of the host of Loveline and like 1996 I was like thirty two and I started actually making money and the first thing I did was pay the IRS because I owed them like four grand from, you know, not essentially working or working the way under the table and all that kind of stuff.


And then I immediately started saving for a house and then I bought my first house like a year later in the Hollywood Hills and just refurbished it. And I never really looked back from that point.


But it's a great feeling, isn't it? When you when you you get to the point where I'm sure once you got on Loveline, I thought, man show we came before a Loveline, but I guess now I was Loveline and then the Mancia.


OK, but didn't you have wasn't there a feeling like. Oh, I can do this, I am not I don't feel like I am faking it, I can I have an ability and talent. I can make people laugh. I can guide this show. And I know my job here. And I could I could do this. Did you have that epiphany? And so from that from then on, I'm I'm good. And I'll make a living in this business.


Yeah, I had I had a couple of thoughts, like my my thoughts were, well, this is crazy. I'm driving a car that doesn't have a lumber rack on it, you know, like I'm driving a regular car with air conditioning and stuff like that was a big deal, a newish car. And I'm going to my home in the hills, you know, and and also the one thing I, I really realized is that all the people that are in this business that you're working with, they don't have anything on you there.


They may be they may have gotten a better start. They may be more educated. They may have more theatrical training or whatever, but they're not funnier than you are. And you couldn't really it's hard to sit home and watch SNL or listen to the morning radio and you have to kind of put the gloves on and get in the ring to know if you can take the champ out. And after getting in the ring and sparring with the champ, I felt like, oh, I can spar with the champ.


That that was my feeling. And once I kind of internalized that, I was like, OK, now you can't take it away from me because I know I have that ability. Yeah.


And is that is an epiphany. Yeah. You had that. You had that experience that you knew that you belonged.


And it was also weird for the first time ever, I'd have guys like Jimmy Kimmel. What would be going like, oh my God, you're the funniest guy I've ever met. I'd be like, oh really? And they'd go, Oh yeah. Like he I didn't have I never had anyone believe in me. I know that sounds corny, but I just mean, I never heard anything like, hey, man, you got a talent, you got to do something with that talent.


And that wasn't anything that had ever been discussed before that certainly.


Certainly for guys like us dealing with the mix of the world and you really find out who your friends are, because once, you know, if I told friends or acquaintances who I grew up in and around in the valley, I said, you know, I was going to be an actor. A lot of them would go, Oh, really? Yeah. You going to be a big star? Are you going to be you're going to go off and be big and they would choose the side that's not supportive at all.


Right? It's like you have those jackasses and then you have very few who say, I bet you're going to do well. I think, you know, and you may be surprised by the ones who choose to be your support group and those there was actually more of a majority who were very cynical about anyone wishing to break away from the pack of, you know, kids growing up in the valley, you know, just like their little suburb in the country.


And it's funny.


It's like you're all living in the same Gulaga, rowing on the same Viking ship, and you have the temerity to go my back sore. I'm going up top on the deck and get some fresh air there. Where are you going, Cranston? Do you think you're better than this Viking ship? Get down here in row. See, you are funny, Adam, you are listening to that endorsement from Krantz, and it leaves me and it's a good Segway, which is my son now 14, Sunny is has now seen every episode of Breaking Bad and is completely obsessed with the show.


And so it's also funny thing was, I told him I'd even tell him he found I was on a rowing machine last night. Speaking of the Viking ship, I was on a rowing machine by saying he came down to the gym I was in and in my basement and he said Bryan Cranston is going to be on the show tomorrow. And I said, yes. And he goes, You didn't tell me when Kareem Abdul Jabbar was coming on. And he didn't tell me when Tony Gonzalez tight end for the Chiefs was going, I miss those two and now I'm going to Miss Cranston.


And I said, well, come in to work with me and you can you can ask him a question yourself.


So he he is there.


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It's time to check Adam's voice mail. Shakirullah Real quick, man, if you could expound on is it a lateral move or is it an upgrade from Queens, New York to Fontana, California? This is what I have done and this is a situation I'm in. I'm sure you could do 10 minutes on it. The pros and the cons. We could please let me hear it later.


You can leave us a message at eight eight eight six three four one seven four four. Well, it's actually downgrade. But Fontana has a giant racetrack that I've been to many times with Sonny Caroll, actually. So if you're in a NASCAR or Indy, then it's a we can salvage your slightly downward move.


Sonny Corolla. Hi, High. Meet Mr. Bryan Cranston.


Nice to meet you, Mr. Cranston. It's good to see, you know, in a face, Emil. I think he's muted well, unmuted, I'm sorry, I'm going to muted now we got you. Sorry. Oh, there we go. Hi, nice to meet you, Sunny. Thank you.


Good to, you know, to meet you.


Sunny, Parola, Sunny Kural. Sounds like a character that Joe Pesci would play in a movie.


Well, you know what's interesting? My name is Adam Corolla, which doesn't really connote any ethnicity, you know what I mean? So the Corolla sounds Italian, but Adam sounds Jewish. At least when I grew up, that handful of Adam were Jewish. So my whole life, everyone would say to me, what kind of name is Karola? And what do you mean, what kind of name is Kanako? Adam Carolla? I don't know what that is, but it was the Adam that was throwing him off because my name was Tony Karola.


We'd have no problems. So when it came time to bring a child into the world, we thought, let's name him Santino. And that way people will know his heritage. Right, Sonny Khairallah?


Yeah, I think people know I'm Italian.


Do you have gone to Italy? No. We were supposed to go this summer, but you know, you're going to love it.


And if you trace back to see where your ancestors came from, you're going to you're going to appreciate it even more. It's a beautiful country.


Thank you. Yeah, I was very excited about going. It looks like a nice place. Yeah.


His mom is full blooded Italian, so both parents are from Italy. So scientists at the at the three quarter mark because I'm half. All right. He had a question for Mr. Cranston.


Yeah, I had a few. What what was the hardest scene to film in Breaking Bad are of all time maybe and anything?


Well, there's a couple of them. There's a couple of scenes late in the in the series where we're outside. And it's it's about four degrees and you're shooting outside and you're you could feel your body shaking from from the cold and the and the condensation coming out of your mouth when you're speaking. And we but you you can't act that it was not about being cold. So you just have to really focus your mind and breath to just calm down and then just do it.


And then before your body convulses involuntarily from the cold, you know, that's like you've been in really cold weather before. And and then you get warm real quick. They come, it's a cut and they run up and they throw a parka over you and they just and you jump into a van that's a warming van and just try to get your temperature up. And then they come and say, OK, ready for take two and say, yeah, OK.


And you rush out there and you do it over again. You do it several different times. That's a physical difficulty. But I, I think that the most difficulty that I had was remember the I think it was in season two when when Jane died of an overdose.


Mm hmm. Yeah. That yeah.


Well, when I was preparing for that scene, I have a daughter who was her age and I was preparing for that scene. And as I'm writing my notes for what could possibly be happening during that scene as an actor would and the possible emotions that you could be feeling at any given time. What I do is I write that all down and puts it in my brain and then I let it go so that if it pops up, it's real, it's spontaneous, and you got to deal with it.


And one of the things that I wrote down was in a pro and con list about should I save her life, should I let her die? I really did. I wrote that down. What? Because that was the dilemma that Walter White was facing. And one of the reasons of I pro I should save her life was she's young enough. She could be my daughter.


And I wrote that down and then wrote other things down. Well, sure enough, one of the takes I was there and and looking at her and Krysten Ritter, who played her, was beautiful and wonderful, off camera, acting full on for me, choking to death. And all of a sudden her face just kind of melted away. And I saw the face of my real daughter dying in front of me. And God forbid that ever happens to anyone that we know.


It's probably it's the worst fear that a parent can have. It's not the natural order of things, you know, to see a child go. And so it scared me. And and that's the take they used where I, I almost I'm shocked. And I choked back an emotion because I saw my daughter's face instead. And I and I in retrospect, I remember it. Oh, it probably came to me because in the back of my head I wrote down, she's young enough.


She could be my daughter. Oh, wow. That was my most emotional, difficult scene to do.


He has some questions that he was going to ask Tony Gonzalez, but he never made it.


So if you wouldn't mind answering a few of those just to kind of round out the kid's childhood.


Len Dawson, you know, I was there before I was able to get to Kansas City. You know, most people think that to do a down-and-out route is easy. But I'm telling you, you get you get slammed by that outside linebacker and, you know, you you don't know what's up. And you got to focus on that spiral coming in and knowing full well you're going to get hit. You got to focus on catching that ball and tucking it.


That's the Cynthia Szigeti training coming right out of Cranston. Yeah. Synthia, God rest her soul. It was a funny she was this big loud woman, as you know, and she was kind of the Mama Cass Elliot of of of improvisational Groundlings teachers. But she was like one of these people who was big and blustery and but you knew she had that heart of gold. But that was kind of her trademark was yelling, you know, like, yeah, you'd enter a scene and you she'd go, OK, lights up, here we go.


And you'd come walking out on stage and you'd go, Hey, man, what are you doing? And I'll stop. You know what he's doing. Turn around and come back in. Don't ask questions. You know what he's doing. And then you just you go lights out and you come out again and she you'd walk out with your hands in your pockets, you know, what did you bring to the party? And you go, I didn't.


Go back, come back again, tell you brought something to the party and one time. You know, Sunny, daddy had girlfriends before mommy and Bill was good. No, no, just stick with the before. Yeah, as a matter of fact, you're going to Uber home because I got to swing by Julia's house.


I, I, my girlfriend dumped me. I know. Hard to imagine. Right.


Yeah. And picture me but broke. So you know what I was what she was doing and she dumped me and I was like well those times I was so upset you know that you know that when you're twenty three and you get dumped kind of feeling that it's the worst misery ever.


And I remember like I we took a break at the Groundlings with Cynthia Sogeti and I was like intermediator writer lab or something like that. And I tried to call her with a pay phone during the break and she just picked up and she's like said, you know, stop calling. It's embarrassing, you know, and hung up or whatever. And I went back into the class and and Cynthia was like, OK, everybody, let's get back up on stage.


And I just I pulled her side. And as you said, Cynthia, I just can't do it. I'm so heartbroken. I, I can't go up on stage and do comedy. I just I need to leave and and I just need to leave and I just want to quietly leave. And if you could just just tell people I, I don't know, I got a cramp or something. I'm just going to leave now, OK. And just tell I tell them I wasn't feeling well.


So I come here I go. So I start walking out of the Groundlings and Cynthia goes, well Adam Carolla is leaving because his girlfriend dumped them. And everyone's looked at me like, oh, the poor baby can't do comedy because he's not having a good day. Well, how's that going to work when you're not having a good day and you can't do comedy because your girlfriend and everyone is just staring at me while I was standing in the doorway, the Groundlings, and I thought, you bitch.


But I went back in and did comedy and it was it was funny. I shocked. I have no recollection other than God damn it, Cynthia, we had this whole conversation about me needing to sneak out of here and go in a corner somewhere.


In retrospect, were you appreciative that she said you got a buck up? Yes. And and do it because sometimes and Sunny, this is a good lesson. Sometimes you have to do things and you don't feel like it. You got bad news or whatever. You don't feel like it. You don't feel strong, but you got to go in there and do it anyway. Certainly as an actor or you have a stand up gig, you can't just say, oh, my girlfriend broke up with me.


I'm canceling.


Right? Yeah.


You can't look for your work if you're a crane operator. You work at Trader Joe's. You can't do it either. Really.


It's a it's not a bad you know, it's not a bad lesson in life or about the crane operator being distraught then then the person working at Trader Joe's just for obvious reasons. A good point.


Like if that guy snaps, people are going to die. Where's Trader Joe's? You just don't get your banana chips. Yeah, the right order in the bag. It's funny.


Trader Joe's is a funny inside valy thing because I remember Trader Joe's from 30 years ago, maybe maybe more like it was a novelty nautical themed market that never, always does seem like kind of a novelty place. And now it's literally taken over the universe.


Yeah. With the Hawaiian shirts and the yellow rope. Yeah, yeah.


Rope everywhere. And, you know, the guy checking out was called Skipper, you know, and he had a fake parrot on his shoulder like it was a bizarre and novel place. It didn't it wasn't the go to place like. No, you know, you know how something is entered the lexicon is because when you hear pundits and and and politicians and stuff and you hear them go, you know, these guys, you know, the teachers don't want to go back to work, but the guy works as a Trader Joe's, has to go into work every day.


And it's like, oh, that it's it's mainstream. It used to be a novelty. It was a novelty market. And now it's a mainstream market. All right, Sunny, do you have any more questions for Mr Cranston?


One more or one and a half. All right.


What do you I know this is probably like confidential. That can are you maybe going to be on better call Saul season five. Is. Well, season five is already produced and out there oh six oh season six.


Oh, yeah, I the the real answer is that I don't know. I don't know. I love the series. I've been watching it and I'm in the middle of season five right now. And it's it's really good. And it's its own entity. You know, there has some some similar flavors of Breaking Bad, but it is its own show and they do such a terrific job. And I'm very curious what's going to happen on season six when it's leading up to the point where Breaking Bad started in in the timeline?


I would I would do it in a second because I owe Vince Gilligan everything. So if Vince or Peter Gould, the showrunner, called and said, would you come on the show? I'd say, absolutely, let's make it happen.


That has not been the case to date. So and maybe it won't be. And that's fine, too. So it depends, you know, whatever whatever is best for the show and whatever they want to do. All right.


You got a half question left. It's not really. I just want wanted do you have a favorite line or scene from, like, as Walter White or Heisenberg? Favorite line or seen some of these things came out that I didn't even know, like I'm the one who knocks or I am the danger or say my name or all those things that came up.


But just so you can see my office chair, I have the original.


Oh, yeah, that's that. It is.


Yeah. So I stole it from our taken out the Lucite box.


This is it. So now that's the the original Heisenberg hat and his glasses.


Oh that's awesome. Look at that. Say my name, Sunny. But, yeah, it was a good time. I so appreciate it. Sunny, let me ask you a question. Can I?


Yeah, you're 14 by now. You've started thinking. There are certain things that I'm interested in, and I'm and you've got high school right around the corner and it's like, OK, so what am I thinking? I'd like to do for a living when out of high school, out of college and and that sort of thing.


I don't know something in the entertainment industry, mostly sports. I already started a podcast with some of the other people here.


I thought maybe acting. I did drama for a little bit. That was really fun. I thought was pretty good at it, huh?


Yeah. I think also something that like like like Stephen Smith, something like a talk show or like a commentating over a basketball game or a football game is something I'd want to do.


Combines your knowledge of sports, plus your ability to communicate succinctly as you're doing now. And you have you have you have a very good voice. You have a good timber to your voice. Thank you.


All right, Sandy, hit the bricks. And thank Mr. Cranston.


Thank you. Mr. Cranston is good to meet you. I hope we get to meet some other time to meet you, Sonny.


Take care. I'm sorry you have Adam as a father.


So sorry. You have me as a father. Yeah. What a week. He just got back from Laguna Seca. We just did a car race at Laguna Saca last weekend and now he's talking to his idol, Bryan Cranston. Thanks, Sunny.


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You know it strikes me. I'm trying to think of how a show like Breaking Bad sort of captures a Zygi, and I think it's I think it's through just being that good. And I know maybe you don't want to you're not going to take all the credit for that. But I'm saying is is is it about a theme? Is it about a story or is it just about being that good, like these days? Like, are we at a point now where you can't buy your way into success?


You know, when I was a kid, it was like you bought enough commercials. I'd go out and see the movie. Didn't matter if the movie was good or bad. It was the one that was in the local movie house, the El Portimao or the Lorrain or the Gilb. I think there was one called the Guild, but there was whatever they could take my money. They didn't have to be that good. But I'm thinking now I don't think you can buy your way into success now.


I think it's about the product.


Well, you know, there's several reasons for that. First of all, audiences are far more sophisticated now than they ever have been, and that's because the product has improved greatly. When I was twenty five years old, living in New York, I was a I was a series regular on a soap opera for a couple of years. And there were 16 soap operas on the air at the time. That was the heyday of it. The production value and the quality of the writing isn't that good and not necessarily because the people weren't talented, but just they had to churn it out.


They had to punch out 60 pages every day. And it was like, wow, it was just an amazing exercise. So you look at the production values weren't that good. Now, why are there only four soaps left in the world and those are just barely hanging on? Because the production value has risen, the expectations for quality has risen. We and and when we watch it, when we watch it, we can.


So the demand and the struggle to get eyeballs to watch your show is is enormously the pressure that put also with what you're saying, the element of the talent of Vince Gilligan to write a story that strikes a chord with so many people that here's a teacher who has to have a side job because his son has special needs. That's not right. Not only that, he's going to die of cancer. That's not right. And you know what? He uses his skill as a as a chemist to to make crystal meth become a criminal for the last two years of his life.


And he learned a lot. As much as they hate to admit, a lot of people were going, you know what, I'd probably do the same thing. I do whatever it took to set my family up if I was going out. Maybe he's a very male thing. You want to have some kind of control of your destiny. And that's the way I looked at it, like Walter White was just doing that to be because he controlled his destiny.


If Walter White was a mathematician, he would figure out a way to cheat at blackjack and go to Vegas. Right. Instead of making crystal meth. It just happened to be what he was good at. So he becomes this accidental criminal and he realizes on the course of it, oh, my God, I'm finally doing something that is well respected. I've never had that before. Ironic that it's illegal, but he's still getting credit for it, for making the purest methamphetamine.


Did you have all these elements that that people are related? They're rooting for the guy who is struggling. They're rooting for the guy who's just trying to do this for his family. And then the hook is that he evolves into a guy who's no longer doing it just for his family. He's doing it for himself, speaking out to shake and spit the hook.


Speaking of dads who are doing it for their family, I know you and your brother sort of. Got reacquainted with your dad at a bar that was at 22 or he he left when you were about 11 or 12, I guess. Was he just gone completely for that period of time?


Yeah, we didn't see him for about 10 years, physically. Didn't lay eyes on him for 10 years. Right. Etc..


I don't know how much therapy you've been through, but that message of I'm not going to see my 12 year olds, 11 year old son's four decade. Is there any more negative message that can be sent? You know, I've always kind of felt that I always felt like if you weren't, you know, if you had a crush on a girl and she would walk up to you and punch you in the stomach, that was still better than her not knowing you were alive.


Right. And that the the parents who, you know, parents can be horrible and they can be abusive and they can be verbally abusive and physically abused and they can do everything. But pretending like your kids aren't alive, I don't know. That's the hardest gut punch ever, right? It was.


And and it's taken a long time to to get to the point of of dealing with my resentment and anger and abandonment issues. And I have no qualms about it. Yes, I've gone to therapy. I still go to therapy. And it's it's like a process now has that helped me in my acting life. Well, I use it if you want anger or resentment or rage or I can give you that, you know, because I lived it and but I don't I want to I want to compartmentalize it.


I wanted it at work, but I don't want it home. And I've done really well doing that, if I might say so. It's like and the only way to survive a long marriage like I have is to be able to know how to to to do that. But like you boxing it, isn't it acting as an outlet for me? It's a physical and emotional intellectual outlet. I purged when I do it, whether it's on stage or in a movie or series, I gave it everything because I need to I don't know how not to give it all.


I have to give it all and spend it and be exhausted afterward because it's also good for me. It allows me it gives me an avenue, a venue to be able to to get rid of that stuff and have it, you know, be effective.


Is it almost like lactic acid or poison or something that is built up in your muscles? And if you don't purge, it'll just keep accumulating is kind of feel that way.


Everyone needs a physical release. You have to the boxing, is it running? Is it yoga, is it, you know, Zumba, whatever, whatever your thing is, you've got to find an outlet so that you can sweat, so that you can purge yourself of toxins and drink water, get rid of that lactic acid and. Yeah.


Do I'm curious about I've been I've been very curious lately, just in general on the subject of self-esteem. And I was interviewing Jay Leno in the studio a few weeks back and he was sort of explaining he doesn't really have self-esteem, but that's it's not really a negative. He just goes about his life, you know? And I kind of realized I don't really have self-esteem either. I just go about my life. I don't I don't feel a self-esteem and not, you know, feel sorry for me, boohoo, negative way.


Just I don't factor myself in to a lot of the situations in life. And I feel like sometimes people focus too much on themselves in this in this way. And I was I was thinking to myself, I it's hard to have self-esteem when you grow up like I grew up or like you grew up on. Some of it is kind of chemical. Some of it is just kind of who you are. There's people that feel really good about themselves for no apparent reason.


And there's people that don't sort of chemically or biologically.


But for you, what do you feel about your self-esteem? I mean, have you thought about it? And again, low self-esteem. I'm not saying that's a negative per say that that sometimes can be helpful, but have you ever given that subject consideration? I think self reflection is important, you know, when I used to, you know, that working class sensibility is ingrained in us. And when I was done, Malcolm in the Middle and I would meet fans and they would say, I've never met a TV star before and I will, oh, no, no, no, I'm not.


I'm just a working actor. No, no, no, no, no. And I would spend all this energy trying to deny what they wanted to call me. And and I got in the way. It did several things. It it it wasn't true because apparently I was. But secondly, by denying someone statement of your star, it forces them to double down and say no. Yes, you are right. The communication gets a little tougher.


And it's like, no, no, really. Yes, you are. No, no. Yeah. And I finally realized, what am I pushing against? I'm like Sisyphus trying to get the rock up the hill. Why don't I just say, oh, thank you. And it's over.




I also recognize your your talent in your where you've come and how far you've gone. And what you've created is really it's not necessarily self-esteem is it. Is recognition of. Oh yeah, you're a star, you have notoriety and you've you have financial security and those are good things. And just say thank you and move on.


I always sort of looked at it as when people would come up and say hi at the airport or something like that. I just thought, if you're going to be on MTV every night for an hour, this is what people are going to do. So they're they're kind of saying hi to the person they see on TV every night and you don't have to talk them out of it. It's just the way our society works. You know, you don't have to run front, you know, to run toward it or away from it.


If you're going to be on TV for an hour every night, then people X amount of society will recognize you walking through L.A. acts and a certain percentage of them will say something. And I but I will seek privacy as often as I possibly can, so I will wear a hat and keep my head down. And I, I usually when I'm with my family, I'll go into a restaurant when things are normal and I'll take the seat that's facing the wall because chances are we will be able to have a more normal experience at dinner than if I'm recognized and people come up, then it changes.


It just changes the energy around it. And I don't want to do that. That again, I want to compartmentalize when I'm working what I'm working on and and when I'm free at home and spend my time with my wife, my daughter and friends and things like that. So like right now on the promotional tour for the one and only Ivan, it's my work mode. I know what I'm doing. And I'll go out there and I'll I'll work as much as I possibly can to support something, a film in this case that I really love and that and I want people to see.


And when it's over, I step back and I become reclusive. And I don't I don't want to be in the limelight. I don't want to be on shows. So, you know, I mean, I listened to your podcast, listen to the podcast, but not I won't listen to all this podcast because I've I've done it. And I don't want to hear myself. I want to hear someone. I want to hear someone who I don't know that much and see what their life is like.


Wow. Tony Gonzalez is coming into the studio now. Yes. Stupid. Last question, Brian. Writing and creating. How how much of that how big a part of your life is that right now? And what's the process of the protocol or how does it work? Because I you know, I know a lot about a lot of people, but I never really know how much writing they're doing or creating they're doing. All right, a lot I wrote a book a couple of years ago, a memoir of short stories, and I really had a great time doing that.


I might want to write another one or attempt to do a novel or something or a play. Again, I like to do things to test myself, to see if I'm any good at it. And I may not be, but I like to try to to see if I am and if I enjoyed the experience and I enjoyed writing this book. I've written several episodes of television, mostly on my own, that I created for. There was a series called Dangerous Book for Boys that I wrote on, and I created the show and there was a series called Sneaky Pete that I wrote and created that show as well.


So I'm interested in not only writing for other characters, but for myself or I'm also I love to produce because it's then I get to support the writer.


Your vision. Let me see how I can pave the way for that writer to find their voice. And I think it's I think it's pretty exciting, but it takes a lot of energy. It takes a lot of energy to to write and produce and act and direct. And and it's like at some point, I think, you know, I might be like like Dick Shawn doing stand up comedy and all of a sudden he falls flat on his face and dies on stage.


Yeah, but he was doing it, doing a routine. It's like, no, no, wait, don't don't go out there. Don't go out there. He's doing something. He's doing something. Right.


I think. No, he's not coming full circle.


Dick Shawn was he. And Mad Mad Mad World or set dick not Dick Gregory.


Now I see I'll I'll look at my producer. Chris was diction. Yes, diction. Diction was this big, funny strapping kind of dude who was in that mad mad mad world who. Yes I think maybe. And was he in San Diego when he dropped dead out on stage or and or. I think that Albert Brooks and Bob Einstein, I think and Super Dave Ausborn. I think their dad was a comedian or performer who died standing up on stage.


Okay, well, I think yeah, San Diego was Dick Shawn Ryan was. Can you figure out. I love the computer. The dad, Super Dave Albert, Albert Brooks, his dad, and. Yeah. Receptive to this.


Funny, I think I think I remember hearing the story of Carl Reiner going on Johnny Carson show and saying the smartest kid I know is a kid named Albert Einstein. Oh, really?


Yeah. Yeah. Albert Brooks who. Yeah.


So Harry Einstein died from a heart attack in 58 during a roast in honor of Lucille Ball.


And Desi Arnaz died on stage on the dais and a Lucy roast, you know.


Is there more of a comedian trying to get more attention? It's just like I was like, wow. All right.


You when you when you get the most well, in a weird way, maybe we should all go up on stage telling that joke. The the movie. I should tell everyone one more time, the one and only Ivan. It's a very touching movie in a very good movie and it premieres on Disney plus Friday, August 21st. And also you can shoot bring a tweet or an Instagram at Bryan Cranston as well. And let's not forget the mescal brand.




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I know where you live. So I might just show up there and have a little toast. And you can you can give me some of those magic platelets you have, Brian. Always, always a thrill. Always a treat. One of the one of the good ones, Bryan Cranston. Thanks so much for joining us, Brian. Thanks, Adam. Good to talk to you about. We'll talk soon. All right.


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Follow us on Twitter Downhome Call and leave us voicemail at eight eight eight six three four one seven four four. And get out of this book. I'm your emotional support animal. It's available everywhere. The links are Adam Carolla dot com. Hey, this Chris Myers said, I have a new podcast coming soon to podcast one CMI, the Chris Myers interview. I hope you listen for I'd be glad for you to join us. But today, excited to be chatting with Dave Mazard of BET online.


You know, sports are back, finally back and filtering through and we're excited that they are back. And Dave, it's exciting to talk to you. So tell us what kind of action there is with a lot of stuff going on at one time. Yeah, absolutely.


It was a challenging few months. You know, we went from promoting Russian ping pong and marble racing in its other crazy stuff. I had never in my wildest dreams I thought I'd be handicapping. But now, you know, we got the MBAs back. The playoffs are almost here, NHL, MLB with a shortened regular season and NFL is right around the corner. College football, we'll see for planning on it this year. We'll all the odds for.


Yeah, well, I think we're all kind of waiting to see. So you better move on it quickly because seasons could be shortened or altered. And yeah, it really has been missed. Just the excitement of kind of involving yourself. How about, you know, baseball with extra teams getting into the postseason. And you mentioned the the short and season. I mean, we know about Yankees, Dodgers. We know the favorites, but there has to be a chance, some good opportunities for some sleeper teams that might have better pitching that just get in the door and then all of a sudden worked their way to maybe a major upset, make it to the the World Series, you know, and we saw that.


We know. We saw that ever since, you know, we've had the World Series odds up all throughout the months where sports were kind of down. But we still had all the futures up. And we saw that as as news of the sports coming back. And they're shortened seasons and teams are take I mean, because sharp betters and more intelligent betters, they they were taking shots on the longer, longer on teams, you know, so we were seeing that left and right does the same thing, you know, and the more games there are, things are going to everything is going to even out.


Right. But the shooter to the season is no matter the sport or the shorter the games in a series or whatever, there's that more of anything can happen. Kind of like March Madness one and done right. That's why you always had a Cinderella stories, but it's a March Madness series. We're all seven games and the Cinderellas would be few and far between. So that's kind of the same theory here. Why? Where a lot of bettors are taking more shots at these long shots than before.


Yeah, I mean, you could have the Yankees or Dodgers run in and over that first that first playoff series. There's no one wild card. It's three three games and they're all in one ballpark. Again, home field advantage in baseball already iffy, but now the current situation that could change things. And then also, you know, risk of injury is always a factor. But here you have health issues that a star pitcher or star player. Right.


Could be out of the mix. And that upsets everything.


No, absolutely. And that's another great point. And another reason why I think people are betting long shots more than ever in World Series. You know, it's not just evens the playing field that that, you know, no one is going to be immune to to catching this. You know, a star player can catch it from the Yankees just as much as a star player can catch it from the Pirates. So it's going to even the playing field.


A lot of hits. Some of these star players from the Yankees, Dodgers, Twins, Braves, et cetera, start start catching this thing.


So without a doubt, in America runs on football, the NFL, if any. I think we'll just go straight forward ahead. And just simply, when there were health problems of baseball that nobody folded the tents, they kept it going. And we're on target for a regular season. I don't have backup plans, maybe a shortened season, whatever, but we're good to go. And I know people who love to get involved in this. They got to be excited that maybe things go up too quickly.


You know, you don't win the off season. But when Tom Brady is and is in Tampa Bay or Philip Rivers and in Indianapolis, I'm with you. I'm intrigued by how people are interested in the patriots who are always the Patriots. But without Brady and Cam Newton or instead of whoever Belichick goes with, that's going to create a lot of excitement and anticipation.


Oh, absolutely. I mean, you know, all that Brady news to the Bucs came down, went after, I guess all the sports got nuked a few months back. And that was an exciting week for us because, you know, we're just we were just starving for action on the sports side of things. And then stuff like that happens. And all of a sudden, people are betting the NFL futures, you know, they were betting the Buccaneers to win the Super Bowl.


They're betting, you know, the bills to win the AFC East. They're been under season wins for Patriots over season, wins for Buccaneers. So we saw a lot of action coming in that week. So, yeah, absolutely. I mean, the Buccaneers are they're getting I've never seen we are. So we have such a huge exposure on the Buccaneers to win the Super Bowl. I've never seen anything like it in all my years doing this. So that's the bettors are hyped on the Buccaneers.


I mean, they were like I think they're like forty to one before Brayton and before people thought that Brady was going to go there when the rumors started coming. It is right down to twenty five to one, all the way down to I think we have like eight to one or nine to one now, it probably undervalued, overvalued, but but our exposure is so big on them that we have to be a little concerned with their number. Yeah.


And it really grew. And he's coming to one place all this time to a new team with a lot of talent in Tampa Bay and a different coach. And yet without a pre-season, you wonder, of course, he's an experienced veteran, but the timing and settling and that'll be fun to watch out before we wrap real quick. I mean, we could go on and on, but the NFC West is intriguing and I always like it's a simple thing, you know, the overunder on which.


Right. Based on on teams. And I think we're the defending NFC championship come from the forty Niners. You know, obviously, you've got Seattle with Russell Wilson. You have the Rams who were in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. And I don't think there is down as people think there a surprise some people getting back up there and then Tyler Murray and what they've done in Arizona. I mean, that division, it's hard over there because they're going to be playing each other twice a year, beating each other up now and that you're absolutely right.


And for teams that could legitimately win in that, cardinals is a great example of how action came in. I mean, there there are most popular bet for over wins for the season. And I think there are seven and a half right now. And a lot of that came in when Hopkins got traded there. And action just start pounding in the Cardinals. And yeah, the bettors are a pro forty Niners, pro Seahawks, pro Cardinals. They're down on the Rams, though.


But I don't know how you can sleep on the Rams, you know, two years out of the Super Bowl. So that's gonna be a fun watch, without a doubt. All right.


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