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Hyperventilating When you're high, we'll get you higher. Eric Drath is our guest. The documentary Macho The Hector Camacho Story. It's available now on Showtime and Showtime on demand platforms as well. I watched it the other night and was was riveted. Thank you. Yeah, it's a very good doc. I love boxing so much and I'm such a sort of fan and a little bit of a historian that I couldn't tell if I was loving it so much because I love boxing so much.


Ah, it was just that that good. And probably both. It's really good.


I know a lot less, a lot less about boxing and Adam does. I saw a documentary too. It was really good. Humanizes the guy. And it's everything you want out of a sports talk.


Yeah, well, how did you how do you pick your subjects, how did you come up with I know you have a boxing background. How did you come up with Hector Camacho? Well, Hector was one of those boxers that I knew growing up, I mean, he was just that larger than life personality. So I was always really interested in him as a fighter. And, you know, quite frankly, I thought he was really brash and and braggadocios.


And there was part of me at times I wanted to see him lose, but in the beginning of his career was certainly one of those stars that I followed. I got a chance to meet him in ninety seven when I was working at Fox, and I cover the Leonard Camacho fight in Atlantic City and and to meet him in person and to see how he filled the room with his personality and how larger than life he was. You know, I started to really feel like I knew him.


And and then of course I actually did work in boxing and became an agent and met his son and got to know Hector Junior pretty well. So when he was murdered in 2012, soon afterwards, I was down in Panama and I was actually interviewing Roberto Duran for the Noma's movie that I did for ESPN. It was a thirty four thirty. And at the end of the interview, after I was talking to Duran about his famous fight, I asked him a couple of questions about Camacho and to see him really start to tear up and swell up.


I knew that his impact on not just boxing, but just on humanity was so great. And I just felt like I can't believe that is murders have not been caught, but it was so soon after the murder that I figured they would. And so I flew from Panama to Puerto Rico, where I Hector Junior was still living in Hector Senior's apartment, and I film with him a little bit. And it was one of those stories that kind of just filmed a little bit and then put down and did so many other things.


And, you know, after seven years, you know, there was still no answers. Nobody had done the documentary. And I felt like it was an important story to tell. And I didn't want his legacy to kind of like slip through the cracks. So I reached back out to the family and and that's when the journey began about two and a half years ago.


Just popped in my head. No. And boxers, an untimely, suspicious demise. Arturo Gotti, you must have some thoughts about Arturo Gotti.


Yeah, I mean, I was fortunate enough to have met material Gotti, too. He was in camp and I had a fighter name, Iapetus Sanchez, that was in his camp. And the Gotti could have been a nicer guy, very happy in life. You know, he had everything to live for. And the you know, the terms of his his murder are very questionable as well. And I'm still not satisfied with the answers that or the idea that he would kill himself and and the idea that he would kill himself with a person on a on a doorknob, if that doesn't add up either.


So it's another story, I think that somebody is already doing it. I'm not sure. But I hope I hope somebody does it in a big way, because this is an important story, too.


Where was Arturo Gotti? What country was he in?


I think he was in Brazil and he had a Brazilian wife. And I think that's where it all gets a little bit, you know, you know, vague and convoluted as to what happened. And, you know, there's there's a there was a lot of shoddy investigation going on. And and I got to say, you know, going back to Mocho, you know, they should have caught the two hitmen that killed him and the other guy in the car.


There's no reason these guys should be outlawed still, although we do believe that one of them was gunned down in a in a Denny's about two years ago. So they got right through the fingertips of the police. And so it's really frustrating that that this crime was not solved. And we think that they're closer now. But it's again, it's it's one of those crimes that should have should have been solved.


If I'm ever gunned down in a Denny's, my last words will be, come on, it's my birthday party for free.


And I think that probably the only time I've been to Denny's. But yeah. So he was shot just by the side side of the street. It was a heavily trafficked street. There's security cameras. Some places at the end of the dock. You kind of hinted or mentioned that one guy had been caught, but then sort of set free. Is there? Right, well, what happened was these guys, they there was a police chase and somehow, you know, they were not caught in a cloak gated, what we probably call like a housing project in a gated building community.


The cops are searching for them. There's no garages, the guys driving in a car. So you think like, you know, there's a pretty good chance that, you know, you close the gate behind you, we're going to find them somehow. They disappeared and got away. So, you know, that's why, you know, there was just, you know, I don't know if it was just bad police work or where somehow these guys were so clever, but the chase did happen in this in this community.


And then later on, when they located the car, the vehicle, by the time they went to go and get it, there was a you know, with a search warrant, whoever, somebody had moved it. So there was a couple of things with the police that just really are are just a shame. You know, Puerto Rico has the second largest police force in all of the US and its territories and only a third of murders get solved there and only a third of murders.


We thought we should start a campaign that that is refund the police like we'd like some money back. You know, the second largest police force and you're going to. Thirty three percent. We need we need you to kick something back.


So, yeah, we're way past not funding you. We'd like a little return on this bad investment. So do we know what, if any, the motive would be for possibly executing Camacho?


Well, you know, you bring up a good point. I mean, so the hitman, we're pretty sure we know or at least the police, though. And as far as the motive, there's two motives that they think are very plausible, one of which, you know, I actually don't want to talk about it, not because I don't want to have a free flowing conversation with you, but I really wouldn't want to hamper the investigation. And they're pretty close.


Oh, right. Yeah, I believe that. I believe that the FBI is now involved. And, you know, the FBI wasn't involved for a while. And, you know, we were just very pushy. Bring coming with cameras. What didn't make the film were, you know, half dozen times. And I went to these small police, the municipal police force in Bayamon and, you know, interviewed the police. This was a really hard documentary for me to make.


And, you know, I've made a couple now. And the reason why is because I got so into the investigation and trying to solve this, to bring closure to the case that I left out a lot of Camacho's story. And his story is just so electrifying and and so much fun. So I wound up about six months ago kind of redoing the whole film so that, you know, I was too much into his death and not into as much into his life.


And so I kind of realized that I needed to tell the story of his life to understand his death.


Is that can we shut that thing off on your computer? Is that on our side?


Enough, you guys, you're probably getting an email. I think it's on my side, but I don't know how to turn it off. We can I think we can talk you through because we've gotten into that before. Yeah, we got out. We got to where we got our tech guy Gary coming in. Hey, sorry. You got that.


It's I out. It's coming to Outlook. You're on a Macintosh there, sir. Yeah, but it's on out. Well understood.


In the upper right hand corner you should see three little lines. The very upper right hand corner of your whole screen.


Yes. Hit that. Yeah. And the thing appears from the right, if you pull down you'll see a button appear at the top. That's invisible right now that says do not disturb.


Oh my God, you're good right now. Well, I was so, you know, that would have taken me months. Right.


And this is always the tricky part, because if you're ever looking at Internet porn moments before you come on the show, there's always a little question mark, always a chance. So I was interested in Camacho's mom, who's, boy, I love that woman. But also it looked like she was living very modestly in a very small apartment. And so I'm always wondering, you know, where did the money go? I mean, Camacho made millions of dollars in purse money.


I don't I don't know how many millions, but millions, tens of millions over his career, mom didn't seem seem to be left with much. Do you know any part of that story?


Well, you know, there was a CNN invariably making these you have to cut out if there was a really beautiful scene that. We wanted in the film, but it was just like too long a scene of when the mother goes back to the house that he bought her in Puerto Rico, which is a great scene. It's she goes through there's even still some of his old suits in one of the bedrooms. And the house is really just like there's mirrors all over the house.


It's it's kind of what you'd expect to be.


Right. So but but, you know, you bring up a great point. I mean, you know, most most athletes, I think even the NBA, I think, you know, after five years, like 30, you know, 70 percent of them, you know, don't have money left. You know, athletes are prey to bad decisions, sometimes mismanagement from from other people. But with fighters and boxers, you know, most of them don't have the education, you know, going into the sport.


They get this big money. They buy these these cars and they put their names on cars and they buy houses. And that was unfortunately the story of of Hector.


Did I know he hooked up with Don King at certain point? As you chronicled in the documentary, King was pretty famous for screwing over his fighters. Did he screw over Camacho? You know, I heard different things, but I didn't have the evidence and I didn't feel like it was strong enough to kind of go out there and say that it's somewhat implied in the fact that, you know, Camacho kept taking advances out on his person. In fact, somebody said he took so many advances out by the time the fight came out, by the time he was done with the fight, Don King money was it?


It seemed like the real story with Camacho was addiction, just constantly sort of rearing its ugly head and then kind of going away for a while. And when when he could focus, he was great.


But when the addiction flared up, he he wasn't you know, I don't I I think a lot of people see that maybe the film kind of portrays it that way. I don't know that it's classic addiction as much as the lifestyle. He could never get out of the lifestyle which included cocaine. And because he could turn it on and turn it off for fights, you know, he would think about the unbelievable skill he had that he could fight, you know, eighty four fights and, you know, never get knocked down and knocked out.


I got knocked out only twice and still have that lifestyle. Well, you know, that's what made him so special. He was really a man of the streets. But were those same streets that made him the hero, that also brought him down?


Who are you thinking about for upcoming docs? Have anything you can share with us?


Yeah, I have a civil rights story that I've been working on for a while on Dick Barnett and his and his fight is basketball during the fifty seven fifty eight fifty nine tournament's first integrated play. And I also have a boxing dark four part series that I'm trying to in talks with now that I really can't get into. But it's a big story and I think that if you like this, you're going to like that a lot more. I want to do I make docs as well, and I want to do the ICCA Babuji story, great story.


That's that's a subject for. Don't you steal that shit.


It's all yours. But I think I would love it if you did it because I actually got to meet a couple of times. And I mean, what a story. I think you still are in a penitentiary in Arizona, right?


I guess I don't know if he's been talking to you. Yeah. And I got because that was a devastating heavyweight who was a guy. I don't know, maybe I could. Babuji was the Earnie Shavers the latter day. Earnie Shavers. He wasn't a household name. He he didn't have a belt. He wasn't in the top ranked in the top two or three maybe. But no one wanted to fight him.


He was a really hard hitter. And what what you know, the combination of speed and power in a heavyweight comes along very rarely. And he had that. He really was great. And, you know, I'm not going to give it away. But you can obviously explain what his downfall was.


He he was released in September from the Arizona state penal system. Welcome. Yeah, he's available. Tie that yellow ribbon and now he's being held at ice for covid period until the swearing in ceremony for US citizenship can. Wow.


Yeah, he was quite the guy. I think he was twenty, you know, and looking for some really big paydays kind of guy, that kind of guy, the kind of guy that Mike Tyson wouldn't have wanted to fight, you know, in his prime.


That's the kind of guy Babuji was and then ran afoul of the law and then ran afoul of the law again. And then pretty outrageous shit, right?


I mean, it was like kidnapping a woman across state lines, you know? And I think it was like he was like, well, that's what we do in the village I'm from in Africa. What's the problem here? Yeah, I liked her.


Yeah. There's also there's this move and you never want to get busted for this move. And I think this is one of his things. But you hear it all the time. These guys invite a prostitute to their hotel room and then they don't want to pay up.


Well, he's a vulture. Yes. And it never goes right after that. That's going to be the best. Eighty nine bucks you ever spent in your life. And the prostitutes, of course, want to get paid because, you know, if you had sex with Aicha Babuji all night, that you definitely you want your palm greased after that hazard. You've you've earned it. And I think that was one of his. Or maybe that's another maybe that's that's another one.


That's the one he kidnapped and brought across state lines.


Quite, quite possibly, I would argue, the ultimate compliment for a prostitute. Interesting. In his Wikipedia page, it gives an overview of who he is in his life, amateur career, professional career. No mention of any running afoul of the law, though.


So somebody might need to change that. Wikipedia has got to clean that up.


That's the road written. That himself's right.


You're going to be well, you got plenty of time to modify that wiki page from in the joint, but it's at the bottom half of his professional career.


He just got out when and how old he is. You wonder if he could fight Taishan now. He is.


And I think Tyson would fight him. He's forty seven. Wow. He's been eight. He's been eating shit on a shingle with saltpetre in it for the last 14 years. Might be able to find Yeah. For any been Tip-Top.


He's forty seven. I'll bet you still yo, that guy. So robotized, what's that?


I might take him over Taison, even a forty 40 hour, maybe a D. What did he did he keep the prostitute in his room? Can you find that? Let me read maybe he'll fight one of the Paul brothers. That's the business, yeah. Anyway, OK, so it says yeah.


In July of 99 at the Mirage Hotel in Vegas, he phoned a local escort service and had a woman sent to his room. The 21 year old woman said later she was there to strip and nothing else. She claimed to be a attacked her in the walk in closet after she demanded to be paid up front. Then he barricaded himself in the bathroom and police discharged pepper spray under the door until he surrendered.


Seems guilty. Yeah, but again, I don't know what you call it. Uncouth. Invite a lady over to dance in your room. She wants to get paid.


Oh, yes. Yeah, I think that's. I think it's understood. So anyway, that will be that'll be an interesting thing. The the dark macho, the Hector Camacho star. Again, it's on Showtime. I'm going to watch it again. Like it's just that good. And he's such a compelling character. And it's also I think whenever you're making a dark, I think you want the subject to be outrageous and bigger than life and then also sort of vulnerable and relatable.


And I kind of like a little boy trapped inside a fighter's body, you know, and that's kind of how Camacho came across. It came across as this brash, incredible prizefighter that also was like very vulnerable and just kind of wanted to be loved.


Mary was crying on the end of your shoulder after the fight. That was a very human moment. Yeah, it is.


Not only was he tearing up, he literally put his head on on the shoulder of the gentleman who was interviewing him also after the fight. Anybody is nostalgic for a lot of those, I guess would be late 80s, early 90s, mid 80s, mid 90s. I'm trying to think his reign was reign in his career, really.


You know, he had a great amateur career and then he turned pro in 81 and he fought till two thousand and one 2002. I don't have his record in front of you. Right.


Yeah, but it's nostalgic for sort of the look and the vibe of the fight game that you would see back in back in the day. It's all there. The characters are all there.


And there was a moment in, you know, really in nineteen eighty six when he fought Rozario at Madison Square Garden, the Mecca of boxing, and it was June 13th, nineteen eighty six. And if you look at the original poster, you'll see a great piece of artwork of Gramacho. And then if you look at the undercard where just you'll see a guy named Chavez and Mike Tyson.


So it just goes to show you how he owned the sport.


It was macho time in nineteen eighty six and you know, and I felt like that needed to be remembered. I mean, he was one of the polar bear carriers of of the sport. I mean he really transcended the sport. You know, if you look at Ali Leonard Camacho, Tyson Mayweather, to a certain degree, you know, those guys have been the big names in the sports. And Camacho did it as well, not from any one seminal fight, but from a collection of fighting everybody.


And obviously the ring entrances, which were completely authentic. And I think people really like that authentic part of it.


Did he ever he never fought Roberto Duran, did he? Yeah, he did, actually. At the onset of their career, he fought them twice.


Oh, that wasn't Chronical than the doc. I do not know it.


Actually, I did mention it, but I there's a little scene towards the end before we get into his death, where we talk about how he was kind of hanging on and and fighting anybody and everybody. And so there's a couple of there's a shot or two of him, just a photograph. But I didn't think it was really it was at that period. I mean, look, this could have been a three hour documentary, you know, just from his career.


It was so long and he fought everybody. But I really felt like the latter part of his career wasn't as important as the beginning and really the middle. And of course, when he went from superhero to super villain and that happened after Rozario because he changed his style. And real boxing fans don't like defensive fighters. They don't even like Mayweather as a fighter. You know, they want to see them get knocked out. They want their fighters to stand toe to toe, fight like Chavez, churro ghadi, you know, be in the middle of the ring and exchange punches.


And Camacho realize that he was so talented with such like speed that he could stay on the outside and counterpunch. And that's really what he did for most of the latter part of his career.


There are a story, Gina, was he had his famous battles with Micky Ward, who was a Mark Wahlberg movie, not chronicled in that movie, which was always kind of interesting. But Arturo Gotti was kind of a journeyman fighter who was above he was above a journeyman, but he wasn't as a stand out kind of guy, but he was total blood and guts and had these huge wars with Micky Ward and was celebrated because of these huge wars, blood and guts type fights.


He had then was found dead, hung himself allegedly from a purse like literally a purse strap on a doorknob and going into a closet or something. In what what country was the energon in Brazil?


And they never really sorted that one out.


It just seemed weird that he would hang himself from a purse, strap on a doorknob in Brazil.


A pretty hefty durable purse. Oh, yes, a commercial. That sentence doesn't really make sense.


Yeah. And I and again, when the shit goes down in these countries that don't quite have the the the system that we have as far as the investigating and police and experts and analysis and forensics stuff, a lot of stuff just kind of goes away. It's never they never really get to the the bottom of it.


The second. So I love the documentary is very enjoyable, interesting, educational, all that stuff, one, it's a potentially sensitive question so you can pass on this one. But the one thing it kept, it felt like it kept dancing around. And you mentioned the ring entrances and they kept talking about his flamboyance and cigaret even had a quote it. I'm like, wow, here, pal, here I am. And his mom was like the most important person in his life.


Were there rumors about his sexuality or was that something you even came across or didn't want to put in? Because he had a lot of trappings of like a stereotypical gay man of the time. You know, it's interesting.


This is not the first time that I heard someone suggest that, in fact, Amy, his wife, would say, you know, I'm not going out with you. You got more fishnet on than I do, you know, that night. And then there's a funny story that did make it into the dock, which I would have liked to. I mean, there's so many they were in a shoe store and there were these really ornate, huge, I think like platform shoes with like, you know, glitter and everything.


And he's looking at them and he's like, oh, these are great. And the salesperson went over to him and said, oh, these are for women. He said, OK, they left the store. As soon as they get out of the store, he gives Xabi to OJARS, said, go get them for me in size ten. Yeah, OK. So but I don't know, nobody said it to me.


And if and if it was true. You know, he was in the wrong era his age, it would have been great, you know, how do you come out bisexual, gay, whatever anti-hero, and you would have been a hero. And, you know, people today would have celebrated it for being authentic. And, of course, in boxing, they would want to see him get beat to life. But they already did, you know.


Well, by now, you know, so I think, again, going back to like there are a lot of fighters that have come in after him who come into these these ring outfits with then they leave the arena in a suit for their regular, you know, sweats or whatever. Camacho came in, went into the ring in the outfit, went into the ring with it. And when he left, he was still wearing it. You could see that after the Chavez fight, when he comes out at the party and he's still wearing these sunglasses and the cape.


And he was he was really authentic.


Brian, I can answer your question. Oh, please. I have definitive proof. There's no way a gay man could go 12 rounds with Sugar Ray Leonard, chiseled, covered in Vaseline, sweating, hugging, clenching, grabbing. You would have a boner by the fifth round, for sure. For sure. And even even though you're wearing a low file protector, that's not going to be enough. So now questions have been answered, obviously definitively not gay.


It's impossible. You seen Sugar Ray with the shirt off your purse.


It was the first boxer to be in Playgirl. Oh, that photograph in there?


Oh, that's right. That's right. He was kind of famous for his poses. All right. Well, let me give it a plug. Macho, the Hector Camacho story. It's a very good story and it's a very good doc. And Eric Drath, you should be very proud of this work.


And it can be can be found on Showtime. We look forward to whatever else, whatever our offerings you have and coming back and talking about him.


Great. I really appreciate it. And then a big fan for a long time, so it's nice to be here. Thanks, Eric.


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The news with Jena grad well, before we start on some big headlines, I did receive a message from a very pretty girl, by the way, because it could go no other way that when we were talking yesterday with a different guy about living off the grid, that hashtag van life, a super cute girl, Dmae, to say that she was listening to the show and wanted us to know she is living the off the grid life. She loves it, hiking every day, going to canyons, finding artifacts, animals, having the time of her life and like looks like someone they would cast in this in this role for like a neat series.


So it can be done. Yeah.


The girl the outdoor girl you want cast is the Michelob Ultra Chick who doesn't exist, you know. Right. She's 26. She's pumped about going mountain bike riding at five thirty in the morning. Sure. And it's super stoked to have her ultra low carb beer at the end of her 40 mile ride to treat her treat. It's a cheat day. Yeah, right. Petalled 40 miles up a mountain. And now I get low carb beer. This is awesome.




Those checks. Well, she might be fun to talk to you. I don't know. She's she's live in the van life and she's a cutie and living her dream.


So I like the band life. I embrace it. I would I'm never going to participate in it. But I love the way I love the way it sounds.


Yeah, me too.


I support it like like people with a cell phone think they're living off the grid because literally a grid can follow you anywhere.


That's right, Nancy. Yeah. You like you.


You turned into Woody Harrelson as character and the day after tomorrow now.


Oh, shit.


What's that, John? That was one of the disaster movies. Yeah, it's like 2012 or something. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead.


Chuck Yeager, if that name sounds familiar, he was the first pilot to break the sound barrier and he has died 97 years old. This news was shared in a message from his wife, Victoria Scott D'Angelo, and he was portrayed in the film The Right Stuff, which is another reason that name might sound familiar, became the first pilot to break the sound barrier, October 14th, 1947. There's a really cool three minute video like that old archival, like something they would show before a movie news footage back in the back in the olden times.


And I just pulled just a few, I don't know, like twenty seconds from when he actually breaks the sound barrier. Everything with so much everything was mechanical back then, there's no computing going on, and you were looking at a radar first.


Also, they didn't know what was going on. Exactly.


They had no idea if he was going to vaporize anything. Right. House, she's approaching the very the feet of the thirty five thousand six hundred sixty miles per hour, a really big moment through the very first time ever in my life. For the first time, except in time, a man has flown an airplane faster than the speed of.


I think damn Gloria, Mabel, he named that thing Glenis Glennis, glamorous Glenanne. Yes, damn it, I knew his old school name, put his name on that bad boy. And, yeah, that thing was just dropped from not a B maybe it was a B 51. I made it and have a B 51 back.


I think they said it was not a military plane by any means. It was they called it more of like a science lab in the air.


Well, they must have outfitted some Howard Hughes type, you know, trans Atlantic, you know, propeller plane or whatever, just to carry that thing on the belly of it and then just drop it. It didn't it didn't take off from the ground. It got dropped. And when it got dropped, they then fired the rockets on it and it just took off and broke the sound barrier when it had enough fuel to, like, take off. And I think it glided down.


They had a maximum of two and a half minutes to do it. So they calculated it. But it just it was a real narrow window.


Did that thing have, like landing gear? Did he just drop it in like Mojave Desert or something? It was definitely a glider when he was done with the with the rocket fuel. But I don't and it didn't have much weighing on it. Like it was like a weird thing to fly anyway. That was pretty damn ballsy. Get in that bad boy. But made it to ninety seven.


Mm hmm. That's good. Run. Yeah. Right. All right. Well God bless him.


We have an employee of the month for Goya, the the Mexican food company. That's right.


Yeah. It might be a little unexpected, but ironically, funny. Progressive Representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortez was named employee of the month at Goya Foods after sales spiked following her calls to boycott the. They said when she boycotted, our sales actually increased one thousand percent. And Robert Enwonwu is the is the CEO over there, he said. The New York Democrat's comments allowed the company to expand its reach to so many new people while still holding on to its base of customers.


They didn't do an in-person ceremony, but they did send her a nice certificate.


Was that the boss? It was like from Cuba and he was talking about escaping Cuba and coming here and how he loved this country.


Was that not the same, you know, not the same guy, the one who went on that long? Well, there's two guys.


There's two guys. This is yet. But one guy, he got in trouble because he was at a sort of roundtable with Trump.


This wasn't what this guy was like in the Rose Garden or whatever and heaping tons of praise on Trump and, you know, like a photo op and just seeing how lucky we are to have him as a president. And this is who Ivanka and Donald posed with, the can of beans.


Oh, yeah. Wow. You support the president. You've got to get boycotted because that's that's where we're at.


And your sales go up a thousand percent. Yeah, there's two guys is the one Cuban guy, but then there's the Goya guy. But I thought he also gave a speech at like a roundtable or something that great passion.


But he did. He said the country's truly blessed to have a leader like President Trump, who is a builder. We have an incredible builder and we pray we pray for our leadership, our president and for our country that we continue to prosper and grow.


But to be fair to ask, if you're going to knock socialism, she's going to have a problem. Yeah, she doesn't like that shit. That's her brand. I hope she's in charge of something one day so we can fuck.


All right. Well, and that's what I do. I fuck her.


Good. I'm glad she's fucking employee of the month and I'm glad they went up a thousand percent. Jesus fucking Christ.


All right, go ahead. Unless it's one of your you people's books, we generally don't I don't like to take excerpts from books as news because, of course, it's kind of a cheap ploy to get in the news. However, I have an exception today in her new memoir, Happiness Becomes You A Guide to Changing Your Life for Good. Tina Turner talks about how she has forgiven Ike Turner for the years of abuse that he put her through. This is an excerpt from the book they published in the Arcola magazine, Ike Babuji or Ike Turner.


Ike Turner.


So blanket apology for all likes.


Yes, forgiveness of all eggs. So I'm going to read you this excerpt from her book. She says, I forgave my former husband, Ike Turner, for years of domestic violence. Black eyes, busted lips, broken bones and psychological torture. I was so despondent. One time I swallowed fifty pills in a suicide attempt. But I had to make peace with my past. And forgiveness sets us free. I believe in karma. In cause and effect, so forgiving people for their wrongs they've committed is not the same as excusing their actions.


I think it's very well said. Yeah.


Ike Turner has been dead for a while. I'm guessing. I'm thinking I don't know. This whole covid things got my whole sort of celebrity death thing screwed up.


He died in 2007, so he'll be missed. Obviously, I did the notion, you know, when you hear, like, black eyes and broken bones, like, what are we talking about? Like broken bones? You know, we talk about broken ribs, like, do you really think we're like breaking someone's bones, like probably the broken jaw or, you know, broken hand from some sort of trauma that you could have like or some sort of.


Yeah, you could have been pushed against down the stairs. You could have been slammed against a wall. Well, what are some other modalities for breaking down? I just have to think for half an hour, it doesn't mean necessarily close fisted vista, which she may have, but it could have been other means, like pushing someone down the stairs.


I don't know what Sean Connery think. Yagur Bolex, one glamorous Glennis was air launch from a B 29. There was a B 29 on a B 52. It did have retractable landing gear. So he was able to glide it down and landed. I think that thing is hanging in the Smithsonian. That's right. And if you look at it, he doesn't look like much. I mean, I got to tell you guys, during the analog era of like fighter jets and warplanes, tail draggers, P, 51 Mustangs and all these other kinds of airplanes and this equipment, even the space capsules and stuff like that, super early generation of all these explains experimental and stuff.


It's exactly the same as the original Batmobile. Like when you get up on it, it's like what this is it like it seems tinny and light and weird and dangerous and it's like weird handles with cables on it and shit. It does not feel like a Tesla at all, like it just feels old and mechanical in tinny and thin.


And it's amazing that they're able to accomplish with what they accomplished. Yes. Even we talk about Batman and Robin, even when you get into some of those fighter jets from, you know, Korea were Vietnam and stuff like that, when you get up and get into those cockpits, it's very crude. It's kind of mechanical. It feels very it just it feels like it's not going to work is what I is what I would say. All right. Let me hit the liquid IV.


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Adam, what else. OK, so at the risk of driving you absolutely insane, we have to do this because it's too good to skip. An unidentified Saint Anthony, Minnesota resident has received an anonymous letter chastising them for their Christmas light display. Keulen don't put up the picture yet. So the letter shared by Crimewatch, Minneapolis reads, quote, And they did post a picture of the letter since it's an actual letter that arrived at their home. The idea of twinkling, colorful lights are reminder of division that continues to run through our society, a reminder of systemic biases against our neighbors who don't celebrate Christmas or who can't afford to put their lights up.


We must work. We must do work of educating ourselves about the harmful impact on outward facing displays like yours and the impact they can have. Now, that's insane. But I'd like you to see the picture of the house that they're commenting on. So not much. Very modest, understated, very modest display indeed. It's one strand of lights over their balcony and a wreath. The letter has received pushback on social media with former Baltimore Ravens quarterback Derek Anderson replying.


Saw this coming a long time ago. If I can't have it, nobody can or they can have it. We all deserve it. That's not life.


Where did the letter come from? St. Anthony, Minnesota, but who a little who authored the letter? Unclear, it showed up on Twitter with the actual letter, but let me see if I can do a little digging and find out what the person prints up.


Ten thousand versions of life plus not around town. And when did Minnesota get so progressive and so fucked up? When I was a kid, I was like, Bud Grant and Carlisle are they're from.


And then Jesse the Body Ventura. Those are Minnesotans over there. Like, when did it get so progressive and so fucked up? And so woak in Minnesota is a weird place to be. WOAK right. I mean, I don't know. I get the I get the San Francisco's and the in the lanes and in New York and I get that, I don't Minnesota feels so arbitrary to me to be so woak these days. I don't know.


It feels like Midwest hard right down the street.


Yeah. Hardy stock. I do have a picture of the envelope and the letter. There is no return address and it's addressed to a neighbor or someone in the community.


Yeah, well, as I always say, good news. We're out of problems because if putting up Christmas lights is some sort of racially based attack or a, you know, an attack against those who are less fortunate financially or whatever, it highlights the divisions, it highlights the divisions, then we're out of luck and we are out of problems officially.


Is there no other way to look at this? Because during Halloween, I think I showed you guys where I may have mentioned that there was an incredible and I think I just sent it to Brian, too. There's a list of these unbelievable houses that spent tens of thousand dollars and a lot of people that work for Disney on these twinkling shows and these monsters in these oversized just just looks literally something out of Disneyland. And we took the kid, you know, Friday night, put on spooky music and went from house to house.


And it was fantastic. And I hope we get to do that again closer to Christmas because it makes everyone feel better. It doesn't make us feel worse. It's it's free entertainment. It lifts everyone's spirit. And I can't imagine that one sad strand of lights evoke this letter.


Yeah, I think about our house. We got no lights up and it was tepid about two weeks ago. And a lot of it's still remaining. So we literally have an arrangement of of tea, of toilet paper versus versus Christmas lights.


But yeah, it's festive. I walk around my neighborhood, I take a walk with the kids if every, I don't know, fifth or ninth house really did it up. Right. And it's always like, wow, look at those guys. It looks cool.


Yeah. That's appreciate it. Yeah. Totally appreciate it. Well, I guess whenever you whenever there's a problem with something I like to reverse engineer it like. Wow, OK, well then what would the opposite of this be. Nobody has any Christmas lights up during the holiday season. Right. All right. Well if we don't if we don't like that, then shut the fuck up. Hey, Minnesota mom Gina Grande. Oh yeah.


Listen, I'm I'm an upset neighbor.


Understood. Everybody has a right to their opinion. These people are garish.


Well, you know, that's that's a heavy word to you know, we don't always say we're like that in our house, but if that's acceptable in your house, then, you know, live and let live. But, you know, I understand that you're upset. Optics, darling, the panels, damn optics during the pandemic of all times. Families are struggling. They're trying to put they're trying to put food on the table, not my lights on the fascia.


Look, I couldn't agree with you more. Now, if we're going to spend the money, it's going to be on hot dish. It's going to be on more cereal and kagoro syrup to make the bars. And we're not going to show off in front of all of our neighbors in St. Anthony and say, you. Oh, yeah, we get we can afford the lights this year, I want to talk about those bars. Oh yeah.


Did you like the bars we had that tasted like inequity to me?


Oh, dear. You know, I mean, if it's any kind of generic cheerio, they were maple bars, but they're not napo.


They were like metal bars because a little birdie told me you liked them.


Have you ever seen a person of color tap a maple tree? Oh, your silence spoke a thousand words, my dear. Not personally, no.


OK, so you have to understand what that would how that would go down with my young mixed race by curious son who.


Oh, dear. Yeah.


Well, you know, if he's never interested, I could take him on out with us and we could have a good old maple tap in time.


So you could sit there and smoke cigarettes while he ran tree to tree harvesting your precious maple.


Well I. What I mean, I don't smoke. My husband Hank does, but I would make sure he didn't smoke around the young Todd.


Oh. And I see him in that new raptor.


Well, he did get himself an early Christmas present. Guilty as charged. Yeah, funny. At the beginning, it looked like there are two people in the car. But then when I looked up again, it was just Hank's had. I don't know what you I don't know where the other person went. Look, all I know is that I said if he gets that Raptor, I'll be mighty appreciative because that is quite a car.


Well, anyway, I thank you for the maple bars, but so welcome to a little more nutmeg and a little less injustice in the mixing bowl.


Next time, please, I'll make a note and easy with those Christmas lights.


Oh, and by the way. Yeah, it's not just the Christmas lights. Oh, dear. You know, the light on your bumper that lights up your license plate.


Sure. You I put some tape over it. Oh. So people don't like it. It's a pot, right? It's a beacon of injustice. Many people can't afford that light.


Well, you know, I got it for free when I signed up for checking out my new at my new bank. Right. Should I take it back to put a little gaffer's tape over it? It will do. Well, it's a beacon of injustice. Oh, dear. Nancy, thank you. All right.


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Well, I'm glad because we have a follow up from the owner of the Pineapple Hill Bar and Grill that we talked about yesterday. And somebody weighed in with another interesting piece of information that is worth mentioning. I'll just I'll start with that. You know, we talked about how she talked about how unfair it is that 30 feet away from her outdoor establishment, that is outfitted exactly according to code or at least, you know, before two weeks ago that there is a movie set up, you know, for, you know, extras, whatever, that looks exactly the same that is allowed to operate in hers isn't somebody tweeted me and said, now, remember, the people that are sitting at that set up are probably covid tested every day from Brian boarded up.




Oh, I don't remember not having friends who are in production right now. And they got tested almost every day, if not every day. Right. Yeah.


So so for whatever it's worth. OK, but this woman, some good news. Her name is Angela Marsden and she's raised over a hundred thousand dollars on Go Fund Me for the restaurant as of Monday morning. So it's probably a little higher now. The funds came after her eatery invested 80 grand to build that outdoor patio that we took a look at to adhere to the previous covid-19 guidelines. Her video's been viewed over eight million times, was shared across social media by prominent conservatives, including former GOP House Speaker Newt Gingrich, since it was posted on Friday.


And she's managed to raise over 100 grand, which I imagine will help immensely.


Her goal was ten thousand. She's at one four level as we speak. Yeah, but don't don't abbreviate.


Go fund me. No one wants to hear you signed up, but go f me. Want to give me a little cash. Anybody interested. Hey, there's rewards. I'll give you a T-shirt. You just go after me, not play with the testing for the people who are in production.


Was that if this is something that can be done for that industry that is determined to be essential or important or whatever, why can't it be applied to the L.A. County Health Board? You know what I mean? Why can't restaurants go through the same protocol that can stay afloat? They can stay open. If this can be done for one, why not for the other?


Because then they'll move the goalpost and say, well, what about the people? What about the customers? They're going to breathe all over the waiters and get them sick.


Yeah, unfortunately, they don't have any they don't have any proof that the that the customers are spreading.


Yeah, I was going to say that hard to try to look for that article that I quote, but they basically are saying the customer is not the issue, it's the kitchen staff. So why not just test the kitchen sink? Right.


But it was the customers and then they and then they changed it. So that's what that's what I think this lawsuit is about. That Mark is involved in that. They're just making it up as they go along. They they just keep moving the goalpost.


Also, we are entering this with a premise of, well, they would love to get these businesses back up and running as soon as possible. That may be a false premise. I'm not so sure that's their goal. It certainly doesn't feel like that's their goal.


But don't they like collecting taxes? I guess there's a there's a nefarious thought. The only I would call it a conspiracy theory, but. It's a it's a it's a conspiracy theory that sort of. Has it makes sense other like other like other conspiracy theories, because obviously it's like, what's the end game? You're losing all this tax revenue. These businesses are going under like, what's the what's the deal? Well, here's the conspiracy theory I heard, and I really don't know enough about it to believe it or not, although there does seem to be some merit to it.


L.A. is a shit show with these unfunded liabilities. When it comes to all the unions and all the cops and all the firemen and all the pensions, we have tons and tons of debt with all the pensions that we promised everybody. We had that going into the pandemic. We were kind of fucked up financially before that. And now we have all this unfunded, all the unfunded stuff for all the all the workers, again, the cops, the firemen, the teachers and all that, all the money we promised them that we don't really have.


And the thought was. If we can just kind of claim this is covered, this is like financial covid disaster, then we can get all the money, federal money to come in and bail us out, which is not just going to be covered related stuff. It's also going to be for all these unfunded liabilities with all these unions and stuff like that. And I think they're probably arguing about it now, which is, you know, California saying we need this much money and the folks thinking about giving them the money are going, yeah, but that money's just going to your state, which you never ran.


You never you never ran properly before, covid. And we don't want that money going to that.


So I think that's if there was if there was a conspiracy theory of like, why we just want to burn it all down and turn it into one big shit show. It's kind of the it's kind of that thing of like you had let's say let's say your pool had a big fat crack in it and was fucked up and then there was an earthquake. And then you're like to fire and then you're like, oh, just fucking drain the pool and throw a few pallets in there and fuck it up a little more.


And then you go to FEMA and go, hey, what are you gonna do about my pool? But it was like I was fucked up before the earthquake. But if you figure FEMA would take care of it, it's kind of like that move when you have a big dent in the side of your car and then you get into an accident, you know, like, oh, look what they did.


Buff that. A good time to fix it. All right. Let's bring it home. Genographic.


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There's no fans. There's no handshakes, no hugs. Well, my question is, what's wrong with that? It's just football. There are people out there now who say, just call it off, cancel it. I know Keith Olbermann on his YouTube show from the rubber room somewhere said cancel the whole season. Well, I want to know why. I mean, there's an old expression in sports writing and in sports radio. People ask you who you're rooting for.


You say I'm rooting for chaos. Well, you got it. I've been enjoying the season and I know I'm not alone. Did you know 23 million people watched the Texans and the Lions on Thanksgiving Day? Football has always been a war of attrition, and that's now true more than ever. Can the Saints win without Brees? Can Tom Brady win without Belichick and the Jets lose out and win the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes? Sounds like a lot of chaos to me.


And it sounds like fun. I know I'm in bed online.


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