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Adam Corolla Dotcom World War Two veteran 94 years young Frank Sesson is on. The book is called I Marched With Patton, a firsthand account of World War Two alongside one of the U.S. Army's greatest generals. It is available October 20th, but you can preorder it now on Amazon Franks's.


And you're there. I'm right here. Oh, man. Well, thanks for your service and thanks for joining us.


You you joined at age 18 in 1944, is that correct?


Yes, that's correct. I don't know how many living World War Two veterans there are, but there cannot be many of you guys left because you'd have to you'd have to enlist very young and and close to the end of the war as as you did right there.


Yeah, that's right.


What do we do? We know what the count is. You do you go to where do you go to a convention every year? Do you keep track of people?


Oh, I know there's not very many at all. Or I guess I'm in good health and have always been in good health. So that's what I find. Yeah.


Sorry, I see they're estimating about 300000 World War Two veterans survives to this day. It's an estimate of course.


Wow. That's I'm I'm I'm actually surprised that it's three hundred thousand. I that feels like that's what, that's what the computer says.


The Pew Research. Yeah. So did, did you. So you, you enlist in 1944. You go to the European theater and now.


Yeah. I went for children, volunteered for the United States artillery. And. Sorry, and you start off with partner, where do you where do you go at the beginning of that with the Bradley? Oh, Bradley, I was in the first army, then went back and ordered a barrage of artillery. I went with Patton and I'm glad I did. And I think General Patton was one of the greatest generals the world has ever seen. He had a bad mouth, but he had a good job killing our enemy.


Yeah, well, that's kind of what you're looking for out of a general what what was your artillery? What what is it? What equipment? What was your weapon?


A weapon was one five five Howitzer. And there are very, very powerful there are powerful weapons. The Germans have an 88 caliber. We had one over fire and the one five five, which we had no artillery. And we can keep like six or seven rounds of artillery in the air before the first one hit the ground, make up an artillery barrage. It was powerful.


So the first one would launch and you could get the shell out. Right. And put in a new round, launched that one and do that times five while the first one was still in the air. That's right.


That's right. Is what was the range on something like that?


All those were about 15 or 15 miles, 20 miles most. But the biggest range was twenty five miles was was one five five Valiasr. And they're all right.


It was a powerful weapon, you know, it's a crazy statistic and somebody can look it up when it comes to those projectiles in the military. I think a battleship can fire a two thousand pound round back in the day like twenty five miles. Yeah. Meaning it's essentially like taking a VW bug and launching it from Glendale, California, and having it land on the Santa Monica Pier and be able to do it over and over and over again. Well, the artillery barrage that we had, our General Patton.


He wanted to make sure so he limited artillery up and now and a sequence to fire and they fired and they fired. And they thought the first night lasted for twenty five of those big, big rounds in one night sky. Twenty five. What so how much how much ground did you did you cover with paint and where did you start off?


Well, according to the spotter, we would put an observation point up like some this high point we could find. And we thought within that perimeter until we could see we weren't doing any good. So we move up a little bit and do some more of Samoa and Samoa. And we just aggravated the damage to that. We didn't know where the fire was coming from and the. Consequently, we won the war with how we won that war.


So I think we've all seen the George C. Scott version of General Patton Wednesday with the Pearl handled revolver on the side holster and everything. Obviously, you've seen that movie. What was the real guy like compared to that Hollywood's version of him down there?


The Hollywood version there's. And they would he would stand up there. He stood on top of that one mountain in Hollywood and he looked down the valley. And so the action that was going on in that valley and Patton said, oh, God, I love it. Well, that was not Patton. Patton really didn't love war, but he knew how to handle it. And he fought with every ounce of strength he had. And he would send his man into any war or any area that he wouldn't go himself.


I am I believe this is just a piece of trivia that I have in my head. But that is sort of how life works, patterned after all these battles dies in a Jeep accident. I think he died in a Jeep accident, like literally after the war, look, just hear you are Germans and machine guns and bombs and artillery and everything. And how do you die? You die in a Jeep accident after the war. Like, that's how life works.


We're always so worried about the big stuff. And I don't know you can look that up, Caitlyn, but I'm pretty sure he died in a Jeep accident shortly after the war.


Frank, do you must now write giving your opinion of what really happened in that situation?


Now we have to know, is there a conspiracy theory here? Well, let's put it this way. The truck that did the damage never did find it. They never found that really so that the truck that hit him here is that big 18 wheeler. Oh, so is the theory that somebody wanted to get rid of him?


Oh, and I don't know that that that's the opinion. I have no evidence of that. But there was a significant feeling that the Russian wanted Patton dead and that that was an element that circulated is part of it. My name is Robert Wise. I'm writing a book the there that there was a significant theory at later after the war.


So what? So what was the story of him dying in the in the Jeep? And I look, I'm sure the Russians wanted him dead. Why wouldn't they?


They'd probably want everyone dead after the war, but was a headache as far as opening up new fronts. And I want you to Eisenhower, you give me a you give me a couple of weeks and I'll make these surveys that they started.


The war is you talk about the Russians at that point. Oh, yeah. He hated the Russians and I don't blame him.


I didn't have much love for much of the. So so when was it when was sorry, Robert, but what do you know about Painton dying after? Was it very shortly after the war?


And then it was I don't know exactly what day he died, but or.


It's December eight, nineteen forty five, which had to be right at the end of the war, but the war was completed, he was in a hospital, they flew his wife to the hospital, and Peyton was essentially paralyzed from the neck down and lamented with his wife that here he was in bed. This is where he was going to die. And not very long after that, he just passed away. Hmm, I read his book, Patton wrote a book on the whole war, and it was part of the discipline that he received for some of the comments he made.


They sent him off to Austria. He wrote the book. And it's an interesting book to read. I'm not sure there were many of them around anymore, but it's his picture of what happened, how he reflected on it and how his final thoughts were recorded.


So battle the Battle of the Bulge. That was that was the big one.


What are your recollections of that, Frank?


It was the battle of those listed as the greatest land landslides there ever was. And there there's a. Over one hundred thousand killed in that battle alone. And the. No, it was and it was bloody and besides that, it was subzero, whether it's been shooting approaches, that if you're lucky and are able to stay busy or where I had on every piece of clothing I owned and I was still freezing. So tell him how hot the temperature was, 70 and 80 below zero.


If you can imagine a deep freeze. If you buy your ice cream, that is below. Well, this is 80 below freezing here, Fraziers, where the cars, trucks and transmission froze. And we had our audience and battery wrapped around the transmission so that vehicles could keep moving. And the artillery shells we have to back off because of gun battles with turning white from our sparring so much that we are aware of the gun with what the other was reloading anyway.


Get gear down on those guns. And they didn't they didn't melt. They made out of solid stainless steel. But even you could keep going to lead to them and they'd melt the barrels of the guns.


Where would you also have to remember, this is long before any, you know, synthetic materials.


It was like wool and leather and they didn't have the stuff they have now at the RTI. They like the cortex, got blankets and stuff like how? Where did you sleep? How did you sleep?


Well, we had a bed roll and the bed was like room.


It was very uncomfortable, to say the least, you've ever undressed under my clothes off the phone two days for two days, you take your boots off for forty two days and I sleep with all my clothes on.


And you I got to go and wait until the war.


Mr. Blair, I'm about to raise my bones are was worried about how sad is it that the Battle of the Bulge, the arduous, you know, decisive bloody battle for World War Two is now? I think most people that I know down on the bulge, like morning TV shows like yours, is over. Are you fighting the Battle of the Bulge? Yeah, I know.


That's sad. That is sad. It's extremely sad.


So Frank. How did the Germans, I guess you would learn sort of I mean, you know, how the how the Germans fought, how how did they fight? Was there a way they fought that felt different? Or I mean, I think of them like I think of their equipment is very good. The Panthers were very good. The Tiger tanks were very good. Like they had, you know, as you as you could imagine, the Germans had really good equipment.


They had good artillery and a good machine guns or at the very top in the government. That's ultimately we haven't really talked much about topnotch artillery. And we would like we would fire artillery into the German camp and the Germans would go to the bomb shelter until the fighting was over. But it didn't turn out for forty two days. We shipped truckload after truckload of ammunition into the artillery rounds and the Germans that we took captive were almost insane. They said you guys never stop pounding that pounding, that pounding, that constantly day and night, day and night.


And it just drove the Germans nuts and crazy. And they wanted to they wanted to turn themselves in and get a good night's sleep and some food. How many did did did your battalion capture Germans and how did that work, if you did it somewhere in the neighborhood of 10000 German soldiers and.


Battle of the Bulge was a pathetic battle, there was dead bodies laying there and farmyards, I saw one on the motorcycle with two riders on it sitting in a frozen lake, and both of them were taken over in that. It was just say, you know, well, she'll have to show up to show that again today and the guys couldn't even get out of the foxholes to go to the restroom. They couldn't get out of there to give them somebody they just had to live in.


Miss Gina got a question.


Yeah, I read that you were among the first American soldiers to liberate Dachau, the concentration camp. And, you know, we learned so much about that in school and for so much of my Jewish childhood, this is sort of just something that we are inundated with.


But I've never spoken to somebody who's experienced that firsthand. And I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit about that. Yes, ma'am.


We were coming around the side of the mountain in our truck or my truck, and my driver said, Frank, I think there's some action going on up there. And we looked and he said, there there is. Check it out. The war was about over. So we weren't worried about getting shot or that we needed to check that out. So we go up there and sure enough, it was a concentration camp. And I asked the man in charge of that, we have to go pick those guys up and put them in the ambulance because we're taking them to the hospital and don't give them anything.


I don't give them anything to give water out of your canteens. We don't because our stomachs can't take it. Had anything to eat in several days and they're starving to death and any food in their stomach would cause them all kinds of pain. So we went over, picked this 80 pound lamb. That. It is very hard to talk about this. My uncle was in a concentration camp and written several books about that, about that experience. And it's it's almost unbelievable that any human being could do what the Nazis do.


We went in and started thinking, there's this little lady, Palmira. He was seven foot tall. This guy was a big, big, big guy. He's almost seven. He's like six feet tall and easy to pick up and carry him over to the ambulance. And they taken the day and put him in a bed and the. It took months to really get over the sight of seeing such skinny, lonely people. I don't know how they stayed overnight and I really don't think they and we didn't lose everyone in that compound.


We took them to the village and they carried him to the hospital and put him on rations. And they all lived according to plan.


Wow. So they were believable. They kept trying. I couldn't sleep. Very good for sure.


Well, and it shows, too, that there's no amount of time that can pass that can ease the pain of those memories. They don't mean, they don't mean. I've never shared any of this with my children at all. Not not not not this mayor of this. So that was after the Battle of the Bulge and what then where did you go, when did you come back stateside after that, or were you stationed in Germany or somewhere else?


I had a choice. I could stay with that unit and the liberation unit, or they would just to send me to Berlin as a detective in the military police, which I look forward to doing. So I took it and really enjoyed it, except for the Russians blasted Russians. I tell you, I don't know how to deal with the Russians. I guess I tell them what they said about the worst in America. Yeah. Yeah. I tell everybody that the worst guy in American army, the sloppiest the best dressed in the whole thing.


He could be a general in the Russian army. Wow. Well, I have nothing else here that I have one. I think it will take place on their tour. They know a Russian general is the headquarters and there and he and his driver both were intoxicated. And also the guard takes the driver down, put it in the slammer, and we'll take care of the general appearance as a courtesy to the German and the Army. And he didn't like being treated like that.


So he picked up a wire basket and started beating the clerk over the head with it. And I grabbed his arm and spun around. And him being drunk, he would clear back to the back of the back of the room and back room with a brick wall. And I said, Oh, thank God for brick walls, because if I had to shoot and issued my weapon, this wall would protect anybody in this building. But they. I grabbed the Russian and he was going for his pistol.


My gosh, man, I said, Frank, you can't kill this guy in here and FBI headquarters, everybody in your hometown is going to know what I said to myself. And it's amazing how fast your brain can work. And it's in his legs. And if he still comes up with that pistol shooting dead center, give it that right through the shot between his legs, through the pistol, through it with a grain. No, no, no, no, no erection.


Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there are the jatra covering it up there. What's going on here, Drew? Is this drawing in the slammer? Real cold is what we're getting. And the guard took him out of that order. You're standing in and you go down to the jail where they can have. And by the way, while they were sitting in the back of the truck, toward the bars, off the shoulders, they ripped those signals and everything off the sleeves.


And they they took all of these nominations away from repeatedly. They didn't know who he was under the law. So I don't think he made the call.


The the notion, you know, you think I always think about these ideas, like, I sort of think about, oh, we'll have a drinking fountain for white people in a drinking fountain for black people. And you go, how long could that idea last? How how long with that East Berlin, West Berlin Wall thing, Berlin. We'll put a big concrete wall through the middle of it. We'll have machine gun nests there and we'll just have half the people live over here.


And the other part of them, they're like, first off, I can't believe that kind of stuff goes on as long as it went on.


I went on for a long time. It's it's I was going home by then. I wasn't in that area. I was there before the war. So all I know is that the regular Germans people were nice to know and they weren't responsible for that war. The Nazis were supportive of that war and they paid for it.


Yeah. And the Soviets were responsible for the wall, which again, I don't know how that ever could have worked.


Well, Brezhnev told them, take down this wall.


Yeah, I think Hasselhoff had played a key role in it as well. I don't know if you're a big fan.


So you you then return home. What year do you come back to the United States?


Forty five.


And after forty six years or so, you've seen you've seen a lot of death and a lot of a lot of things that a lot of people shouldn't see.


Does it does it affect you when you come back to the United States.


Not matter. I can handle it now that there's times at night I wake up and I'm thinking along that line. I get a drink, some milk or something. No. I said, I'm 90, 95 years old and I've been married for 74 years, so say more if it's 30.


But I'll tell you that for 50 years I've known Frank. And it was only in the last three or four years when we started working on this book that I looked up on the wall and I saw the plaque to the Battle of the Bulge. And I said, Frank, what is that? He said, I don't talk about it. And that's when we started talking about it. So all those decades prior to that, where I knew this guy extremely well, he never talked about it.




Yeah, I know. Yeah. Go ahead, Frank. You know, it's such a time because back then everyone did everything and didn't talk about it now. People rescue a dog from a pound and they have to advertise to everyone what a hero they are for getting a free dog from the front of the dog.


Yes. God, could you imagine what your average 19 and a half year old would have to say when they got back from the Battle of the Bulge today when they could get their hands on Twitter? I mean, they're just it'd be nonstop.


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Right. So what did you do when you got back, Frank, to the United States? Did you I mean, you've been married for seventy three years. I believe she got you got married shortly after getting back, did you?


When I got back from war or downtown and with my little brother and my wife to be walked across the street in front of my house, Karimov's. And he said that her name is Donna Miller. Her dad is a pastor, a new pastor. And I suppose you wouldn't in the rest of us go down there and he said, oh, it should work for about two of us are well known as much as the lady I'm going to marry. I think we ought to get acquainted.


But whatever happened, the days of just being sure, like I saw that woman and I knew that was the one, like now it's like he didn't he didn't text me back.


So I'll move on to do much better. We got married. Wow. We had four kids and grandkids and sixteen. Great.


Where was this?


In Oklahoma and Oklahoma. And I just had one wife and I don't know, there was this. Well, that's going on the. Let me ask you this one, when I was 15, my father died and left me the sole breadwinner of the family. I had two little brothers and sisters, mother and Social Security, paid eighteen dollars a month. Yes, not very much. But in my day, it was a lot of money that I didn't know how I was going to make out.


So I heard that I could go to a town about 60 miles away, take a welding coercion and then ship in California. And I could work in the shipyards, welded metal ships together, which I took him up on it. And then I stayed there for almost three years. Then I went I got 18, joined Portugal and joined the military and ended up getting through the war. And I never got a scratch.


Did you work for Kaiser building those Liberty ships that your dad, Kaiser Wilhelm Shipyard at Kaiser.


Same with the same Kaiser, the same Kaiser Permanente.


It's kind of an open word about that. But, yeah, it's the same place.


So we could go there and but Kaiser will have people, Kaiser Permanente, the hospital that started from Kaiser Liberty ships, and they had so many employees that they had to open their own had their own hospital like they had to have they had, you know, thousands of employees, all welding and moving steel around and building those ships all simultaneously. And so you needed your own hospital, essentially. And that's and they had their own hospital. And then I guess when the war ended, there was no more there was no more liberty ships to build, none of the, you know, Greyhound sort of Tom Hanks ships that he was you know, he was defending with this.


I came home, Liberty. Oh, you did. But God, don't let this be one, I promise you.


Yeah. So they stopped building troop transports and transport ships and gotten to the hospital business, I guess.


I guess diversified. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.


It's I have a postwar question for Frank. I don't know the answer to this and maybe it's. No, but were you ever fortunate enough to come in contact with any of the the the. I don't know. How do you know how to put it. The some of the people who were held a dock.


How did you ever have any interaction as you ever meet anybody? I mean, that's a pretty powerful thing, I imagine, for my daughter and my wife both went back to Germany and went through go play baseball. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, it was open to the public. They went back and went through it. I, I didn't want to share it anymore. I couldn't get it out of my head anyhow. So I didn't I didn't have any desire at all to share it.




What would be the reason you understand all the nature of the prison that I picked up there and I gave them to my daughter, which is a Jew, and you thought I'd give him some diamonds because you said these are not going on my desk, we're going in the memorial is the same go. So he took them, put them in the synagogue with my name on them. Wow, that was really nice. But if you read the book, you'll find in the last part of the book that Frank's daughter traced the ancestry of his family and discovered that his grandmother was Jewish and that the jury year settlement that was very close to Dachau had his ancestors.


So there was a possibility that when he was saving those prisoners of war, he could have been feeding his own relatives.


Oh, wow. I had goosebumps. It's that that that whole that's my people go. That's right.


That whole kidding. The whole part where Hitler is waging a war against the entire world and into genocide simultaneously is so insane, if you think about it, the fact that he was attempting to do well, first off, you know, Germany, Germany's not that big. The world is pretty big. The notion that Germany would just basically wage war against the world. I know they had Italy and then Japan was in the in the Pacific theater. But the idea of.


You would simultaneously try to do both these things when it was already stacked against you just to win the war against the world is is I mean proves what a what a complete nutjob he was like. It was it was strategically, it's a horrible idea to waste a resource. Think about so many resources into just this evil act that doesn't get you the war won at all. Had you, Frank, had you even heard when was the first time you'd heard about these concentration camps?


Well, when I was just a kid like 15, 16 years old in my hometown, when they attacked Pearl Harbor, there was some word out there about our concentration camps and the Chinese. I they had a lot of that going on selling.


So you were you were aware of it when you were stateside or. You know, and we were we looked at it in school and in the newspapers. It would come out and it a little Chinese boy sitting on the ground crying in a crowded street.


And the was but the German the German version of it. Had you heard about that stateside?


I can't. I'm with you. I don't know I don't know why they would be so dumb as the war was going on as it was and they were already losing the war. And when they run out, it's my opinion when they run out of gasoline, the war was over.


Right. Well, they should have got the green New Deal going earlier on and had some wind and solar and renewables that could still be fighting today. The book is called I Marched With Patton, a firsthand account of World War Two alongside one of the U.S. Army's greatest generals. It'll be available October 20th, but you can preorder it today on Amazon and get a gripping firsthand account, firsthand account of World War Two from someone who is who is there. Frank, thanks for joining us.


Thank you, sir. And thanks, Robert, for filling in some of the some of the spots in between. We appreciate being with you and I think we're going to talk to Frank on a technique coming up, right. So we got we'll get into more details with Frank. Frank Cesan hang on on hold there and I think we'll talk to you about that. Taken me off the air. And let me just hit LifeLock here. Certain behaviors make you more vulnerable to identity theft, like using the same password on every account and oversharing personal information on social media.


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Well, take out I'm sorry, I'm starting to recover real quick. Didn't you interview a a country's female concentration camp survivor for taking me I know four or five years ago or something like that.


Yes, it's it's a long shot. You should figure out, you know, where she was. And you never know.


We could probably suss that out. Max Patas, not around this week. So we're a little short handed.


But yes, I mean, before he comes in for taking the I it's possible a good call.


And yes, I did several years ago talk to a female survivor, one of the camps, but I can't recall which one it was. I know if it's out or not. Why do I. Good. Good suggestion. I'll look into it. We'll take a quick break. We'll come back with Jeff Zarrillo and we'll do all bawls, all sports right after this. It's time to break down the game film and look at the X's and O's, the chaos and the Ohno's from the world of sports that online presents all balls, all sports.


Let's dive into the best online headlines. Baseball playoffs. Dodgers went six five.


They go up in the Padres to the super attention. This could be the next great rivalry. Cody Bellinger is homerun. Robin Catch Off Fernando Tatis Junior Ignites Bad Manny Machado Dodgers Pitcher Brusstar Grasser.


Catterall celebrated Ballinger's catch and chatter, got pissed at that and unleashed a flurry of effused which in an empty ballpark could be heard down at the Arlington Walgreens.


It was pretty funny and quite a bit.


I think we have footage of this. Much touted already hit one home run, I think this is the deepest part. Of the track, the deepest part of the ballpark, have a special postseason this year. They first met down this low back flip flop, flip flop. Did they have to play music? That's insulting to kiss over to a man who didn't like it. And man. Yes. You the you know, it's crazy because.


You know, if the ball travels another two or three inches, it's a home run, but it also hit it to the deepest part. You could go. I mean, you could go down the line saying this for Genette GRAD's, thank you, you know, edification, but you probably go down the line. It's three hundred and thirty six feet. Three twenty eight, three thirty three. Whatever it is, it's three something, three thirty something.


But you go straight away center. It's for a seven so you can just add about 70 feet to how much further you have to hit it. Then of course it's going out of the ballpark and Cody goes up, gets a good jump and literally pulls it back. But if you think about that hit, if you hit it anywhere else in the ballpark, it's it clears the fence by 30, 40, 50 feet. But he hit it.


It dead center. Right. We got to take a part. Now, I get the part where the pitcher celebrates. I mean, because you would celebrate that you had a home run robbed and that saved your run and blah, blah, blah. I don't get the part where you have to taunt the guy who hit the ball. And it's not really a tunnel. It's not really it. Was he taunting him?


No. What happened was Machado's started to yak at Catterall, and it was it was Fernando Tatis junior who hit the ball.


Oh, that shadow was in the index.


He did a home run earlier in the game.


He was bat like he was a baton twirler. It was like a celebration of, oh, Lord LUTTS Then the bat finally drops off. So he's done his share of celebrating in the game. So Caterall throws his hat in his glove and Machado's starts starts heckling him.


And that's when Gradle turns around and waves. Bye bye.


All right. Number one, the pitcher accelerated a bit excessively. I think we can all agree on that. Number two, you have no business celebrating. You just got you got a ball crushed. Four hundred and six and a half feet there as we celebrate his Cody Bellinger Whitefly. That's an amazing catch. You got bailed out.


You're like, oh, I think that's why he's celebrating. He's got you know, he's still got a zero point zero zero area in the race.


Thanks. Yeah. I mean, it's up there with the field goal kicker missing the field goal and then the defense, you know, celebrating sort of like is if you caused them to miss it. You know, it's like I don't think there should be if you're defensive back and the receiver drops the ball in the end zone, you shouldn't do that much celebrating. I even though it's not a touchdown and you're on the defense, it's still because he dropped the ball.


It's a it's an opposite sort of thing. I'm I'm very consistent with this. I don't want you celebrating. Brian's right. The guy hit the ball. Four hundred and thirteen feet and the pitcher celebrating. But you need to celebrate your player. You need to celebrate that individual. You can't do it.


Yeah, but I think that's what he was doing. He threw his hat at the at the Dodger dugout.


He wasn't pointing anything towards the brains of Giants fans.


So for him, flipping over, this guy got away with one, thanks to Cody Bellinger. Well, the great thing is these two teams are just yakking all year and it hasn't stopped.


I think this is going to supplant the Giants. I think this is going to be a killer rivalry for at least another five or six years. And the downside for the Dodgers is Kenley Jansen. He pitched more like Famke Janssen, he looked may not look good in the back. They they should they they should be a rival because they're only ninety five miles away. You know, they're the same. You could you could get front door to front door in about an hour and forty five minutes.


No traffic from San Diego to L.A.. So good. All right. What else we got.


Well, in the NFL, Houston finally for many people fired their coach and GM Bill O'Brien on the heels of a huge shouting match with three time defensive player of the year, J.J. Watt. And that apparently was the straw that broke the camel's back. O'Brien's out. Romeo Crennel is in as the interim. And I think that's his 19th stint as an interim coach.


But O'Brien's had just in the last year, seriously, he's let go to Davian Clowney. He was a superb defensive end that gave him the best defensive end combination in the league with JJ Watt and Clowney. DeAndre Hopkins left this year. He's crushing it in Arizona. They let DeGeeter go big defensive tackle and now they're last in run defense in the NFL. He he signed Laramie Tunstall, a big, good offensive lineman, but he made some blunder in the contract that allowed Tonto to come back in and really hold a gun to his head and pick up like the best contract ever for an offensive lineman in the league.


So and under that, apparently, nobody's getting along with O'Brien in the locker room, plain and simple.


And they're wasting a great young quarterback to Sean Watson, if not quite in the league with Mahomes. And Jackson is is a half a notch underneath and probably has the potential to get up there with just a surrounding cast and a halfway decent defense.


No, I agree. He's a great athlete. He he's he's just a click off of those guys. But with no surrounding cast, you just you're never going to get there. You have to have the offensive line to protect. Do you have to have that deep threats. The guys who can stretch the field out. And it was funny you said Reeder was a defensive player, got dealt somewhere and a free agency.


They let him go.


It was it was I don't know where Reider ended up. Do you know where he ended up? Cincinnati. Since that, because I don't know, I had a very racist thought, which is I was staring at the back of the Cincinnati defense and Reider was standing right next to a guy whose last name was Black Man. And I thought, well, Lokman, black man is just a black man. Yeah. And I was like, well, one of those two things is very accurate.


I'm not sure about the other. But it was Reider just I like to read name is right next to Blackman, who is on the line as well.


I think there must be a black man in a reader on the same same dimension winding up in Cincinnati and thinking to yourself, wow, I dodged a bullet not having to stay in Houston. I mean, that's a referendum.


I know in Houston was really getting close to being an elite team a few years ago. And it just just wheels they them. And in the Atlanta Falcons have just turned into one of those. God, we're right up at the top of the leaderboard. And now it's just abysmal. Yeah. Yeah.


And these teams are good, like they have a lot of potential. And for whatever reason, there's a stumbling block, I think, about the Jaguars of like two years ago they went to the AFC championship game. Does a damn good team just couldn't get over the hump. There's a stumbling block.


The Atlanta Falcons, I think I said before the Atlanta Falcons, after they blew that lead to the Patriots in the Super Bowl, was like a fighter who just was knocked out in the second round and devastating fashion and just never got their mojo back. I was never you know, there were thirty one to know, devastating knockout and became a journeyman tomato can right after that, like just so devastated. How could you get over that Super Bowl loss if you're the Atlanta Falcons with no Super Bowl wins and your franchise history playing the vaunted Patriots and Bill Belichick and Tom Brady and dominating them for three quarters, like, how do you ever get over that, that loss?


It's really it's like a heavyweight just getting knocked out in the second round, just losing all your swagger, your confidence, just never being the same fighter that that that is going to take it's going to take its it's going to take twenty years for that franchise to get past that fucking episode that they were they were a there were violently assaulted by the side of the road like that. They're so psychologically damaged by what happened in that primary. Ran that autumn night that they'll never be back again, they're devastated.


Look at this.


Sorry, not I'm done.


Save this exact paragraph for next week when Atlantis Dan Quinn probably gets fired. It was kind of a race to the finish between O'Brien and Quinn to see who was going to lose their job.


First out of gas is still employed. Yeah, the Jets.


Yeah, well, but let me tell you about the Jets and why you want to be the Jets, because I used to talk about this with my buddy Kevin Hench, who does all the sitcoms now. Everyone, everyone back in the day, it's like I'm going to be Thursday night, you know, I'm going to be right after Seinfeld, right before Friends or whatever. And it's like, no, you don't you want to be Friday at nine o'clock or no one cares and no one knows.


You're even on TV. You know, like you want to you know, you want to coach the Jets where nobody cares if you win, nobody ever wins. There's no scrutiny. You go you go on four with different. You start fucking up with Atlanta and Houston and everyone wants to know what's happening. Like what's wrong. We got to fix this. We've got to make a move. The Jets, they're they're sub five hundred every year. Who cares, right?


Seven and nine. Keeps your job at the Jets.


Yeah, that's Friday night. You know, after step by step or whatever the hell. I used to laugh all the time. You know, Suzanne Somers had a prime time sitcom, but it was on Friday night with Patrick Duffy. With Patrick Duffy, I think it was on like seven or eight seasons. No one even knew she was on TV like they didn't date. No scrutiny, no no ratings, no nothing. Just hammering paychecks on on Friday night.


Well, let's stay in the NFL. This is quite interesting.


The Washington Football Club benched their young quarterback, Dwayne Haskins.


This team's had thirty starting quarterbacks in the last twenty seven years. They've wasted Robert Griffin, Junior, Jason Campbell, Patrick Ramsey, Heath Shuler.


That's just in the last five years, Haskins only played in 11 games under three different coaches Jay Gruden, Bill Callahan, the the the first interim coach, and Ron Rivera.


He's got less than 350 past attempts and they just put him to third string, the name dropping, the second string salting. Yeah, that's how much they've decided they're going another direction with the kid behind Alex Smith, who may not have two legs.


Yeah, right. And horrible offensive line is zero weapons. You know, they just have not given this kid a shot. And I think it's, you know, indicative of of a franchise that's dysfunctional from the head down. They just cannot get it right in Washington. You know, it took him six months to regroup their nickname to Washington football team. That's the best they could.


I mean, you know, they should be driving in Ugur like tonight, that entire front office. I don't get this franchise.


And again, Gina doesn't follow the sport, but the Washington Redskins of your were vaunted franchise. Oh, perennial. Always there at the end. Oh, in and out of Super Bowls winning Super Bowls. Always a great organization. You know, tons of Hall of Famers. And there were, you know, when when the Dallas Cowboys would play the Washington Redskins was always, always a big deal. Many Super Bowl appearances, that notion that they've completely come undone is is it be like you think about think about one of your favorite, like restaurants, like a chain restaurant, like I love P.F. Chang's wherever I go, there's a PF Chang's.


I always know what I'm going to get. It'd be like you going in there and then going, we only have Top Ramen and a can of beans like we got nothing anymore. And you go, oh, how about what do you got on tap? We got nothing on tap. We got a natty light. It's warm. We don't have refrigeration like you've got like what happened. Like what happened. You guys used to be my family love this place.


What happened. Like so who's to blame. I it it, it goes when it goes bad it can go bad pretty pretty quickly. Yes.


Brian, the easy answers. Dan Snyder, he's the owner of the team and I don't think a lot of Redskins fans like him. That said, I was shocked at him. I don't know. Ten, twelve years ago, I read an article about the most valuable sports franchises like sports franchises, different value.


The Redskins were the most valuable sports franchise in the NFL at the time. I think the. Overtaken by a team or two, but that was still shocking to me. There were a marquee team and like you say, historically important, the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl, Doug Williams, had great coaches. They had great players. They always competed hard for the division and the league title. So I hate to say it. I think it is Snyder.


I think I think you get an owner who comes in same dough as the last owner doesn't know how to spend it.


They're not only the first black quarterback, but they're a team that before other teams had black quarterbacks, not the first. But I mean, you had a black quarterback and a speedy white running back who dominated. So you're not yet over the white running back and Riggins. Yeah, yeah, yeah.


That guy was a sprinter and I don't know if he was Spinel Riggins was more of a of bowling.


No, I don't want him. I do not want to embarrass you. But he had the Kansas State 100 yard dash record.


Wow. Oh. How many people live in Kansas. Only the fast ones. Once you left your record. That's true.


He was a big yeah. He was a big bruising dude, but he had wheels that that was the whole thing about Riggins. Riggins was a Kansas State record holder for the 100 yard dash or 100 meter dash, whatever it was. I mean, you can look it up, Caitlyn, but that was the thing about him. He was he was this big bruising guy, but he had breakaway breakaway speed. All right. Let me hit that on line.


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Raiders a Kansas City Chiefs. Adam and I both took the Chiefs, Denver Broncos and New England Patriots. We both took the Pats, Eagles at Steelers. We both took the Steelers, Giants a Cowboys.


We both took the Cowboys bills at Tennessee.


Adam took the bills. I took the Titans.


And I don't know why our current standings. Chris Myers. So we just had on the show leading the podcast one standings with twelve points with Chris. Horrible also has twelve points san and the Grappler down eleven points. Jim Beever eleven points. I'm holding down third with ten points. Shaq's got nine. Adam you're in fifth, sixth with eight. And then there's two guys who just started last week with three points and two points and I'll spare them mentioning their names until they bring those point totals up.


For God's sake. That's ridiculous. Hey, that's the best line.


And I'm Jeff Sasseville for all all sports, all balls, all sports presented by BET Online. You're online sports book expert. John Riggins, did he have the Kansas State High School spirit won the two years in a row, he won the high school 100 yard dash, nine point eight seconds.


A fucking guy could fly. I mean, for big dude running a nine eight in high school.


That's actually incredible. You could drive for a big dude two years around that. Don't revise that. He could fucking fly the Kansas State. Two years running high school, 100 yard, Kansas, 800000.


Come on.


That's the stopwatch. Doesn't lie. MAN nine, eight. You're running you're running a subtenant high school that by the way, he was on a dirt track back then. You know, that wasn't. Well, come on. It wasn't SPRONG.


No, now it's all polycarbonate, you know, recycled truck tires. You know, you got to get them running through wheatfields and.


That's right. Lighting them on fire with this blazing speed. All right.


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