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I was delayed trying to get back to my babies and said they got a notice the case, so I'm writing the songs. When an SUV washes always like miserable. Tim Minchin is our guest all the way from Australia. I think the album is called Apart Together. It's available November 20th, wherever you listen to music. Thanks for joining us, Tim, now.


Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure. Congratulations on all the Tony nominations and Emmy nominations. I don't mean Grammy.


No Grammy. Grammy nominee is Grammy.


I feel like I'm doing an Emmy. What do you have to do for an Emmy?


God, it is. Don't ask about them. Yeah, I know it's crazy when you do hear about actors and Emmys and actors and Oscars and like it's been nominated 13 times. Never won, like. Yeah, there's a lot of that out there.


Randy Newman, affect all the Randy Newman affair. I don't know what it is. I mean, I do know that all those awards are actually just competitions to see who can kind of do the winning the competition the best. They're not meritocracies. I mean, that doesn't mean there's not merit to the people who win them. But it's a hell of a lot to do with how how much losing campaign ends.


Yeah, yeah.


It's it's it's I mean, I kind of hate them. I like them when I win.


I don't think it's a meritocracy. When I win, it's like, wow, all the bullshit obviously just went away this time.


I know, but it's kind of like in high school when you're trying to talk yourself out of the hot blonde cheerleader like that empty head with a stuffed sweater. Who needs that? But everyone wants to fuck her. We all want it. I get it. So I think.


Yeah, you're well, I think what you're saying is you want what the heart wants.


Is that right?


I'm saying everybody. What nobody everyone wants that award, no matter what. Once they put you in the room, that's for sure.


I remember Steve Sondheim when Stephen Sondheim won his first Tony Award and he sort of famously still pugnacious dude. And, you know, he has a very difficult relationship with Broadway, even though he's the greatest. And he just got up and went, I don't really care for awards, but it's nice to win one.


And he's got off again. I I'm sure that was in his voice.


That's just my standard that I've met him. And that is not bad. Well, he talks like that now.


Well, Tim and Gina, Gina is the toast of Broadway. She loves every musical, loves every musical. What is the status of Broadway? I know it's dark now, but what do we what's financially what's going on?


How's it going to work with Tim involved? It's much better, truly.


I mean, huge, huge hits. People love wonderful music, much acclaim. So thank you for that is.


Oh, that's a very nice thing to say. But it's it's pretty depressing, isn't it, obviously. I mean, it's hard to know. I mean, you assume in the long term all this stuff will recover, but in the short term that feels like a sort of devastating reboot where you lose all your hard drives and have to buy a new laptop.


The economics of doing a Broadway musical are pretty, pretty, pretty astounding. But when it works, when that works, like when you come up with that idea and it works and you can franchise it, it's got to be one of the most lucrative jobs you could ever have. Yeah, I mean, it's it's a crazy gamble, Broadway, because, I mean, I don't know the stats, but it's something like 95 percent of musicals don't hit or, you know, like my second musical, Groundhog Day, which got seven Tony nominations and won the Olivier Award for Best Musical in London and ran for, I don't know, on Broadway six months or eight months or something.


Lost everything, you know, like it lost everyone, everything. So that's eight months on Broadway, you think? Well, that's surely made your money back. Nowhere near we would have had to run for three years, you know, so it's crazy. But on the other hand, Mattilda, which didn't make a huge amount of money on Broadway, but the very fact that succeeding on Broadway meant, as you say, that it will be performed forever all around the world.


Yeah, it's a good it's a good win to have had.


Do they have any plan or protocol for opening Broadway back up? What are they talking about?


June of next year, May or June?


How do they know that's the next time?


It sounds like that's the next time they're willing to re-evaluate and people should just go ahead and kiss the winter and spring goodbye.


That's basically it's the parenting version of Ask your father. Will you walk out of the room? I will say not committing to anything. I'm not even listening.


Just although Gina kiss the spring goodbye sounds like a pretty good show to the spring.


Good bye. Yeah, beautiful. We've done it. All right. Now, Gina, Gina and Tim, what are the best Broadway musicals of all time? Give me give me top five. Start with the best. Move your way down to five.


It's genius question. I don't I don't really know musicals to find it hard to believe.


I don't I don't. I've seen about ten in my life, maybe maybe more. But yeah, I'm not a musical theater.


Well I, I don't mean to play too much. Ask his rodeo. But I have to tell you, as far as new musicals go, Matilda has some of the most beautiful music I have ever heard in a Broadway show.


I love this podcast.


Can I do this? Every week I keep quiet. Just one of my favorite songs in the world. It's such a beautiful musical.


I'm sorry. Let's find that song quiet. There's a lot of great songs that Baldwin loves that song.


Right, Brian? What's that, Brian?


What you say? That's it. That's and he was my inspiration.


Well, look what he wants to hear. Wyatt Oh. Likes it, too. Right. All right. Well, we can drum Hamiltons.


Not bad. Yeah, that's pretty good. I mean, I'm going to be the first to say it.


Hamilton, you're going out on controversial notes. Well, it's done good.


Yeah, well, yeah. The first time I heard about Hamilton, I texted a friend of mine who is very sort of hooked into the Broadway world. And I said something to the effect of you heard about this stupid musical that's supposed to be like a hip hop history lesson. How lame is it's going to suck. Everyone's going to hate it. Nickelback No, Gina, it's getting amazing reviews. I'm like, OK, a rap musical about Hamilton.


You guys have fun. And of course, it's groundbreaking and incredible.


Yeah, it's a huge it's it's one of and I sort of I've known Lin Manuel a little bit for a long time. It is both probably the best musical I've ever seen as a piece, you know, in terms of the integrated like as there are more extraordinary stagings and there's more. But as a piece, as a concept album, as a piece of writing and performance, it's probably the best musical I've ever seen is and still manages to be massively overrated only because America is just really liked something they have to be.


It's the greatest thing anyone's ever done. And I'm going to sell my house to get a ticket because it has to be that so I can tell my friends I got a ticket, you know. Oh, God, just watch it and say something about it. Don't just say you got a ticket. Reflect on the piece, you know.


Yeah, well, I mean, we're kind of that way with, you know, Ellen and Bill Cosby, too. It's like these are the best people on the planet. These are the worst people on the planet. How we hate them. You have the middle because the middle is so boring, we don't do nuance.


Well, yeah. I mean, everyone loves when they talk.


They you know how you know, we don't like the middle. Ask anyone any forty five year old what was high school like for you.


You're either going to get a years of my life. Yeah. I was captain of the football team or I was a failing student. My counselor hated me, my stepdad. No girls like you never get. I was a C student, fairly well liked but not loved.


And if I may be the Australian who high school is. OK, there you go. But I played some sport. I went to class.


Well, that means you're secure in your own skin. What is Linman. Well, working as a follow up or has he come out with one yet? And then how do you do that? I should know that, Jane. Do you know what he's writing? I mean, he's done all this stuff, all Mary Poppins, Tony Malana. Yes.


And all the film, in a way. Is it is it intimidating? Mean. How do you follow up Hamilton? If you're him? How do you do that?


I would like to ask him about that. I suspect he doesn't care because he never has to work a day in his life again. Obviously, we could live ten, ten lives and not run out of money. But he but I don't think he that interests him. I can tell my super baby version of it with Matilda. Obviously, Matilda is not Hamilton, but it's probably the, you know, the most successful family musical of the time or something, something stupid.


And I don't care one jot about the pressure of the follow up. In fact, if anything, I with Groundhog Day went kind of more angular and attitudes. And with my next one I'll go more obtuse because I have no desire to try and follow it up. It totally depends on the personality, but I think Manuel Manuels probably a bit like me and that he's he's got lots of things he's trying to do and trying to follow up Hamilton and have an equal success.


He won't even it's lightning in a bottle. You can't. And I think it would make you very sad to try and emulate your lightning in a bottle. It and it's what Hollywood tries to do all the time. I worked at DreamWorks for a while and I suddenly, after working there for a couple of years, went, Oh, so you guys think an outlier is the goal? You guys think it's a failure if you don't have an opening weekend as good as frozen, you guys are nuts.


You've got to let lightning in a bottle will be lightning in a bottle and then just pursue good work with with a reasonable opening weekend the rest of the time. Well, you're going to be miserable.


And of course, I am well and good thinking into the Heights came before Hamilton because into the Heights was a was considered a ground breaking Broadway success written by someone no one's ever heard of named Lin Manuel Miranda. That would have been enough.


We have song. We have the song. Quiet. I think that's right. Ready to go. Have you ever wondered? Well, I have about Tousling, I think that, for example, there's no way of knowing same. Somewhere, the lines, that line. All I can say, I'm not sure. I wonder if inside my head, just a bit different from some of my. Everyone shouts, I seem to like shout, the noise in my head is incredibly.


Yeah, that sounds amazing. Well, how old was that? Well, we can. How old was that girl? Kids like 11. Wow. I mean, they were amazing. And it's obviously pretty weird to listen to out of context on a podcast, but it's. Yeah, it's going somewhere. That song. Yeah. And it's very it's very different from what I'm writing now, but I still I don't mind it.


Listening back to one of my favorites, Ben Folds is out in Sydney, I guess. So this whole covid thing blows over. You know, Ben. Yeah, I know, Ben. Yeah, he's actually going to maybe do a little guest thing for a streaming thing I'm going to do. I recently played with him on the concert hall stage at Sydney Opera House. He was a massive hero of mine and has now become a friend who listens to my music.


It's one of those pinch yourself things for me.


I have such amazing respect for his work as an ideal songwriter and incredible songwriter and a thing.


And I'll tell you something that's missing and it's part of the reason why I'm not a big rap genre fan. I like a little self deprecation and a song. I like a little sense of humor, a little making fun of myself in a song says puffing myself up. I don't like that genre where you're talking about how great you are. I love that Ben Folds in his songs oftentimes has a lot of humor and it's usually at his expense. And I yeah, I like John Hiatt for that reason too.


John Hiatt writes great songs, but they sort of have a little joke to a lot of them and they any any kind of pick and fun at himself. And I like that.


Yeah, it's a total sort of cultural thing or not cultural, but it's sort of certain areas of art do that and certain types of people do that. I'm sure there's a heap of self-deprecating hip hop. It's just that I don't I'm not the person to defend it, but it's out there. I do self deprecation sort of relentlessly, it's kind of how I built my career. Well, I try now. Now I have to battle to not do it all the time because it starts becoming like a bit as opposed to sincere self deprecation.


It starts becoming like, you know, humble bragging or something. So I try and not do it all the time.


I if there was a genre of rap that was low self-esteem rap, I would I would listen to, you know, I got a secured credit card drive myself a high mileage camera, drive it hard. Well, you know what I mean. Like something.


Well, that's what they I mean, it's white boy rap, but that's what Macklemore Super Macklemore is super self-deprecating. And I actually, weirdly yesterday, because I was looking my own song up on the Internet because I can't remember, I needed to get the link to the YouTube bit and I type when I grow up, which is the name of one of my Mattilda songs. And that's just like Christian rapper out of somewhere Massachusett, something called. I mean, this is how ignorant I am that he's got a song called When I Grow Up.


It's a massive hit and it's actually very light. I just want to rap and I know I'm not very good, but I'm working really hard and I just all I want to do is gonna a buy a house and give my family some money. You know, it's super low. But again, he's a white boy, Christian rapper. So I'm not I'm not very good. Good examples. I listen to a lot of Christian rap.


As you can imagine. It's totally my thang.


One is for you. Are you're in Australia now, right?


What time is it now for you? Eight o'clock in the morning. Oh wow.


OK, thanks. Thanks for getting up so early. And so you have to get up sometime.


And any thoughts of going anywhere in the in the near future.


Well actually I'm getting on a plane to go to Byron Bay, which is within the state of New South Wales this afternoon to go and see a documentary. It's I mean, it's my mum fell very suddenly, very ill a couple of months ago. And to get to Western Australia required all these forms and government exemptions and stuff, doctors certificates and stuff. So that's we're very tied up with Australia is doing a much more controlling thing than you guys are with your American freedoms.


And and so that's been really awful because I then had to leave Mum come back to Sydney because my kids are at school and stuff, not knowing what was going to happen with her illness and not knowing what how we were going to get back. So that shit and all mutterings off on that shit. And so the answer is really we're we're pretty much stuck except being able to go within our own state.


Are your are your kids able to return to school? They're at school. Yeah, my daughter sometimes doesn't go because she doesn't like it. What a weird world. But yeah, they're back at school.


Well, see, that's weird because Australia's locked down. We're in Los Angeles. We have more freedom, but schools are all still closed. Yeah, well, the thing with locking down is you can get your numbers so low, you lock down interstate and international disease passing, you can get your numbers so low that you create a bubble and then you can send your kids to school. And so we're going out to restaurants.


Oh, there's little bits of socially distant theater and gigs happening so we can go where we're living, basically normal lives, but we can't leave the state and people can't come into the state because that's how you keep them.


So I have. That's New Zealand, right? New Zealand's like leading the world. Everything's back to normal, but stay out. Yeah. Yeah, it's right.


Here's an interesting our Australia question. Everybody I know and everyone I hear in the celebrities and all that stuff from Australia, they're always super friendly and easy and cool, you know, and it's almost taken on its own personality, sort of like if you ever meet guys from Brooklyn who are Italian, they're extra Italian and I'm from Brooklyn and get out of here. And all this kind of stuff is part of it. There's a little bit of a facade there, like a little bit.


There's a little theater and they just like it. They're like saying they're from Brooklyn, like saying they're Tallia going to play mythologising. Right.


So Australians that the take on them is they're funny and they're easy and they laugh and they're not uptight and they're not divas. Do you feel then does it become a self-fulfilling prophecy where it's like, I don't want to fuck things up for the for the nation?


I think there's this self mythology, but it comes just like the Italian Brooklyn, New York thing. It comes from somewhere. And yeah, maybe you feel like you don't let the team down, but but it's it's only an average, like all generalizations as exceptions, I think. I think in our industry we if you grow up in Australia and you want to be part of a global entertainment industry, you are clawing from very early. I grew up in Perth, Western Australia, and at no point until I was already there did I go.


One day I'm going to be on Broadway. You know, I just never, ever my dream to one day I might be out to play the piano bar and someone will pay me. Right. You know, because I just.


So that slot, the American Dream, which says if you work hard enough, you two can have a gold toilet or whatever that president of yours has, you know, like this kind of life which has this little undertone of if you tread on enough people, you can be rich.


There's a little of that under the American dream. Australia has less of that dream, which means when we get there, we don't feel that pump in the air so much. We kind a lot. Sorry, sorry, sorry, my allowed my you know, so it's under there. But of course, this arrogant, belligerent Australians and as beautifully humble Americans and the distribution of the curve is probably not far away from normalised across the global population.


I always see those damn Hemsworth brothers on TMZ and those assholes, they're just living life like here's Chris Hemsworth. He went out to lunch barefoot. It's like and it like it's this big disco and surfing. The families going, surfing. Everyone's working out and surfing all day.


Chris is where I'm going today to to a film festival is where Chris lives. I don't know. I've met him some of the time, but he's he's he's quite a while ago before Kovar decided he wanted to be based in Byron Bay. And since covid, as far as I know, he's basically said to his agent, I don't want to leave, actually. So if you want to make a massive hit, movies have to come and do it in Queensland.


And so that's what they're doing. They're basically moving the industry here so that people can keep being so.


Wow, I'm going to try that. I'm not leaving the La Canada Flintridge area. I'm sorry you have to bring them to there.


Isn't that pretty much what you've done, Adam? Isn't that isn't that the story of your career as you've gone? I'm sitting here. People can come and talk to me.


I you know, to be true. To be fair. Yes. No, it is correct. The warehouse that I sit in, I bought almost twenty years ago to just park a few cars and have a wood shop. As a matter of fact, where I'm sitting right now is where I built my original wood shop. I just thought, wouldn't it be cool to have a woodworking shop and a place? I mean, my friends, I can't turn some wrenches and.


And hang out and, you know, when the podcasting thing started taking off, I just tore out the woodshop and, you know, built Bill.


When I did your podcast, I had to come to your bloody shed.


That's right. Yeah. I mean, fucking hell, yeah. Do you think you are, Khairallah?


Worst musical title ever.


She's on her first period with you. OK, we're going to do the news, which would be awesome. So, Tim, you want to hang out in the news with us?


Yeah, I want to know everything that's happening in America. It doesn't make me anxious at all.


I, I, you know what I you know, what Australia is like is now I think about it, you know, you always think about these different nations and these different countries and stuff like that. I want to answer.


I've ever been. No, I have to tell us what Australia is like.


I will tell you what Australia is like. No, it's what we think of Australia. Australia is to this country a breed of dog that we all like. Like you go, Oh, Labrador, I had a blonde lab. I love that dog. Like we it's fun. It's an idea. Good with kids. Yeah. Like it's like it's it's not going to get anything done.


It's not like, it's like it's just like you guys see us the same way you see a dog and you've got those like oh they're so yeah.


All the stuff, all the stuff you like consuming from us is really how all we're quite simple but good hearted and like Crocodile Dundee and came shit.


Right. And it's just like honestly it's, I mean our health system, our education system and all that is more advanced than Americans. And by any measure that you guys think we have kangaroos and knives and shit, it's pretty it's pretty close.


Yeah, I think I don't I don't really mind. No, it's good. We think of you as a cuddly lab and then everyone tells a story about how they knew a lab. Ah, they had a lab there growing up and I plan on getting one next summer.


Yeah. No one ever had meth in a lab. No one has ever said this like I love Australians. And then someone said I work with this Australian guy once he was a douche.


So that's never happened.


People there are some people in the upper echelons of Hollywood who what I think fondly on working with me, I'm sure. Yeah.


Look, you're just one of those labs you have to get to know the person.


So, yeah, I don't like I'm a lab that doesn't like being kicked. Yeah.


Now what would I feel like? Russia would be a Rhodesian ridgeback, even though it's got Lesin in it. Yeah. I like kind of big, a little scary but kind of wish it was on your side, you know, like if you're walking down the street and somebody's scary came the other direction like a dalmatia.


New Zealand's one of those feisty little dogs where you go. He thinks he's big, right. Big dog.


Right. Is New Zealand's like a Jack Russell where they kind of are smarter than everyone else, but tiny, tiny, not afraid of anything.


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We'll take ourselves a break. We'll come back and do the news with Tina Brown, Tim, right after this. With great news, with Grand Prix Fire, all those crazy Trump tweets give me no trouble in the Middle East celebrity Trump meltdown. Jeanne Moos with Jeanne on the news with Jeanne grad.


Start with a couple of stories out of San Francisco. The San Francisco Board of Supervisors has unanimously approved legislation aimed at cracking down on frivolous calls to 911 against people of color. And the legislation is called Caution Against Racial and Exploitative Nonemergency Act, or Keran.


Although the lead sponsor denies this was the intent. It is Karen.


And, of course, the online meme that morphed into a symbol of racism and white lady privilege. The legislation in San Francisco would allow a person and this is the legislation, by the way, that would allow intrusive, earnestly bigoted being like I'm just asking.


That's just asking would allow a person who was the subject of a false or frivolous nine 911 one call to sue that person for at least a thousand dollars if the police responds and has to deal with this.


Well, this will clear everything up immediately. That's what I know.


Well, but couldn't you sue them anyway?


I didn't know that we need legislation for this. Feels I should be against the law anyway. I need the care in law.


Yeah, I know. It's hilarious. Yeah. I just think this is a little grandstanding. I don't I don't know how you really apply it. I don't know how it works. I feel like I've been I've had 9/11. I've had the cops called on me a million times, four zero zero burgers and obviously I'm the whitest dude on the block. So it's a weird apply to you. It's it's a I've had the cop show up because my phone line got crossed with a neighbor.


I've had the cop show up at Park. I had a New Year's party with Jimmy the cops. It was New Year's Eve.


And that time when you killed a person and they said something, yeah, it wouldn't go well for the body. And you're like, it's in my freezer. I cleaned it up.


We oh, yeah. There was a there was a hit and run outside my wallet. There was a hit and run outside of Gina's house over the weekend. Oh, sorry. Night. Sorry. It's funny. The thing that was weird literally ran the way your brain works is I was saying I had it. I had a New Year's Eve party with Jimmy many years ago and his ex-wife was Gina and me and Jimmy and Gina like plans party. So while I was talking about I see this thing on the screen, it's at Gina's house.


And I was like, I'm thinking about his ex-wife. And that that second, because she was, of course, at the party, the cops showed up at like eight thirty or nine o'clock, which means somebody called him at like seven fifteen on New Year's Eve. Don't get out in front of this on a Friday night. Yeah. Anyway, he had a hit and run.


Yeah, well, we were just chilling. We were I think we were watching Contagion or something uplifting in the bedroom and a giant crash outside went out. And the dude, it was not just a hit and run. The dude crashed and hit the car in front of our house. Thank God wasn't ours. God, the car seemed a little stumbling, a little scared, and just like Stumble ran down the street and took off.


So there was a big old Thibeault and a hit and run on Magnolia. And I called the cops the non-emergency number seven times and there was no takers. And guess why? They told me the non-emergency line was so clogged because in the middle of the night on Friday, Saturday night, they got so many calls about house parties that they couldn't clean this car up in the middle of the street.


So they came. People were busting people for house parties on the speaking of which, so we finally heard, you know, beeps and sirens and stuff at like 4:00 in the morning, they came to pick up the car. But I don't know what happened to the dude.


So one of the neighbors, like, I'm going to stay here in case he comes back like he's not coming back. He ran away from the car because he hit a car. He's done for the night. He's gone. He's not coming back.


Yeah. Also, you want to deal with drunk, concussed, irritated guy when he comes back? Like, why do you want to deal with that guy?


I don't know. I mean, we have a gate. I made sure it was locked and I was done for the night. But so that's how it's going to roll in San Francisco. Speaking of San Francisco, slippery slope guy probably has some things to say about this. A Walgreen's drug store in San Francisco is set to close in about three weeks because of rampant shoplifting at this particular location and a couple of others. Why is there so much rampant shoplifting at this Walgreens?


Well, apparently thefts have been happening there for months and the store shelves are empty or near empty. Most of the remaining product is behind plastic theft guards. And the reason why these Walgreens in San Francisco get hit over and over and over again is because apparently there's a store policy where if it's under like nine hundred dollars that the employees aren't allowed to chase, you are allowed to, like, stop you because it's not worth the employees.


Getting hurt while in a Walgreens is over a hundred dollars. Now, it's a good point.


No, but if you stuff enough accumulation of snow, they don't want their employees getting hurt. So they know these are the Walgreens you can hit and nobody will chase after you. And they they've clean them out. So hard core, this is like six other locations they all have to close.


I'm telling you, it wasn't a financially smart for them to have ten security guards who do stop everyone.


I got to say touch even Tim, Tim, Tim.


That doesn't look friendly. That looks intimidating.


Also sell semiautomatic weapon. No, no, that's Wal Mart. So I'm getting the drug store. Here's the problem. I've said to everyone unintended consequences. I mean, that that is the new world order, which is somebody says, look, we're there's too many people getting arrested for shoplifting or or larceny or whatever it is. So you go, Al, the guy was doing is he was stealing a bag of chips and a soda. Now we've got to put him through the system and blah, blah, blah.


And then someone says, why don't we do this so we don't have this nuisance? Why don't we make a cutoff of nine hundred dollars? So anything under nine hundred dollars, it's not a felony and it'll be it'll be easier on the taxpayers and it's going to work like a charm. It's like, OK, well guess what happens. Everyone comes in with a calculator now and we're going to steal up to eight hundred and ninety nine dollars worth of merch.


And once you explain we will not chase you. If you try to steal stuff, then everyone goes there like it'd be great if any of the shit ever worked. But it's relying on people to do the right thing. And as soon as they as soon as they find out one store, they will chase you down the street and kick your ass. The other store they will not then they all just go to the store and keep it under nine hundred bucks and walk out.


I imagine word spreads pretty fast among a community that's willing to go in and rob drug stores.


OK, but this is the yes.


These conversations get derailed by the fact that no one's pulling, pulling. I'm sure someone is. But the kind of mainstream isn't pulling apart the different elements of why you punish a criminal life. So when you punish someone for stealing a bag of chips, people, liberals like me, I suppose, but even more will go. It's absurd to punish a person for stealing a bag of chips. That's ridiculous. It cost the state money and it's completely overbearing and blah, blah.


And that is. And you're like, yes, absolutely. But there's another element to criminal prosecution, which is deterrent. So the person who steals a bag of chips wants to be deterred from doing so by the consequences being heavy. And so the right, the right wing or conservative guys. But we need deterrence. The liberals will go. But we shouldn't be punishing people who are suffering and less lucky than us for stealing a bag of chips. And it's like, yes, it's both fair points.


And the whole point about law is trying to find the balance again.


Well, yeah, it's it's one of those engineering things that doesn't work. It's my sort of thing that I always say when they go to many young males of color are being suspended and then someone goes, stop suspending young males of color and will fix the problem. And it's like doesn't fix the problem.


There's a way to circularity. Yeah, you have to figure. Why this circular? Right. But you can stop suspending young people, but you also have to give them reason to stay in the school, you know, just like you can stop punishing criminals. And that stops the cycle of criminality, perhaps. But unless you're also giving people really good education and there's a good social safety net for people who have been brought up in an unfortunate situation. So you have to do both.


Yeah. And I don't know. No country in the world is perfect at that, but I'm not sure America's in the top. I don't know about Australia, but you have to be attacking from both sides. You can't just stop punishing people and you can't just punish people. You have to figure out how to educate and support people. Otherwise they'll keep being motivated. Why the hell wouldn't you need school? Why the hell wouldn't you still?


You need incentive incentivizing people to do the right thing. So when you say this Walgreen's, they won't chase you. Everyone's incentivized to go to that Walgreens and steal shit. That's the way it is. And if you don't discipline students, then they're incentivized not to hang up on the phone call they're on in the middle class. That's this is a this is a problem, but it's something we should do a better job with. All right. Hold on a sec.


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All right. You know what else.


Well, there's times where you're listening to Matilda the musical, you're listening to Groundhog Day, and you cannot remember for the life of you what the name of that song is and you have no way to find out. Well, here comes Google to the rescue. The latest version of Google has a new feature where you can sing or hum a song and it will help identify it. The thing we've all been waiting for. So this isn't just humming. You can whistle it.


You can sing it, you can do to do it. And it will try and pick up what you're putting down. You'll have the latest version of the Google app or the Google search widget, and you'll also have to grant access to your microphone. Then you top the mic on top of the mic icon. You just put what's this song and search it. And after you Hamet, the algorithm will give you some possible matches. And when I heard this for the first time, my entire childhood came flooding back to me.


I don't know if you were all big married with children watchers when you were when that's not. But do you remember this scene from this episode? Because this is exactly what it made me think of.


Green Door by Jim Logan.


You go to a record store in Overton Mountain, Claude King Isle three.


Oh, yeah. Any day now.


Chuck Jackson for. This guy is a genius. We're home, go with him.


Never heard of it because I think he's referring to Anna, the Beatles song, but I could that was the first thing that popped into my mind when I heard the news.


Yeah, it's funny. I was a little bit older than married with children that in that it was sort of like Goonies for me. Like it wasn't it wasn't a very funny sitcom, but it was kind of iconic and kind of interesting and had its moments. But it's sweet, you know, when you're 13 or 14.


But one thing in my life for years, but not that funny when you're 23 like that, that's kind of fair. That's kind of where it was.


Like I was probably I guess I guess I was pretty into The Simpsons by then, although this predated The Simpsons.


This is 1990 ish. Yeah.


Start in 89. I think it's a pretty good example of how comedy keeps shifting necessarily. Like, you know, you get people, guy, I hate your stuff. You're just not funny or your you know, back in my day you didn't have to swear to be funny. And it's just that people don't realize that comedy incrementally shifting because you get used to a certain rhythm of a thing and you look at you look at that show now and is kind of a double take and is a big thing.


And you just go, oh, my God, it's so unsophisticated. But at the time was right at the edge of what made people laugh. And the whole culture goes with it, shifts with it shifts with it shifts with it. Really interesting.


The really boring about that. No, no it's true. And like, like bad hairdos on women. You don't notice it when you're there, when you're living in it. Married with children. Eighty-seven, Simpsons. Eighty nine. So I was right, I was a little bit before that and I, I, yeah I could remember, didn't strike my sensibility very, very well. But it was also for me it's like I was looking at. It's like it's like I was looking at a guy with a mullet haircut and everyone is going, this is super popular.


And I was going, I don't know. I don't think I don't think history is going to be kind of that that hairdo. And I've sort of that way with him. But I recognize Al Bundy. Sorry, just forgot is now at O'Neill. Ed O'Neill, like, I recognized he was a talented guy and she was talented, Katie Segal and all that. And later on, I ended up working on Katie Siegel's house. So it was a big, big deal for me.


I got to work with you. You can make one of the most successful sitcoms of all time with these incredible writers and actors. And you can become a billionaire on the basis of it. And then inevitably, 20 years later, a bunch of punks will sit around and go, yeah, it wasn't that good. Yeah.


Right now, when win.


Well, if you want to smell like Anthony Hopkins, Sir Anthony Hopkins, that is, you have a chance. Now, the actor has launched his own fragrance collection. His perfume is called Anthony Hopkins H. De Parfume. And it's described as, and I quote, a timeless, elegant fragrance for men and women that will awaken your soul and unleash what's hidden inside your heart.


Oscar and the Oscar winner told Vogue about it.


Aromas are a form of meditation. They simply change my psychology. Whether I'm playing music or painting in my studio. Fragrance creates a mood of peace, invokes a strange sense of gratitude. It also comes in candles and diffusers.


Yeah, the publicist wrote all that right.


But don't you want to hide your art and art?


I've got two things I don't want to know. What's inside Adam Crullers hot. No, I'm not. And to I think Anthony just like. All right, I've got a couple of years left. Let's just bank everything we can. Bank for my family. Let's just whatever he probably said as a joke, put out a scent, right?


Absolutely. Yeah, I know.


He genuinely loves snow.


Here's my thing. What is he? Seventy seven years old. Probably ninety three, is that all right, if he had a genuine passion for aroma, don't you think we would have known about it by now?


He would have been known as Stinky Hopkins.


Well, you like playing the piano. I like vintage racecars. And it rears its head every 10 minutes in my life. Like what? Why how do you get passionate about something after the age of 80?


Maybe he was embarrassed by it. Maybe just, you know, ever since he was a kid, he felt embarrassed by how much he loves perfume. And now I could finally be his real self, live his life, his best. Not two minutes ago.


You're saying it was a money grab. Just now you're defending the marriage.


Various hypotheses are possible. I'm just examining them. How old is he doing? Eighty two. Eighty to eighty three. I you can't get passionate. I don't care if you're selling cologne or cooking walk. You don't tell me you're passionate about it. Past 80 you mother fucker.


Didn't Paul Newman get into racing in his 80s. How dare you get into racing at his age.


You've got a racing in forty nine.


How dare you for Smirch is good but he didn't do it.


I'm going to come. You will still be doing this podcast at eighty something. It looks like it anyway.


Yeah. Now I'm going to come on your podcast and you're going to be like, you know what I've just discovered and I'm going to remember this.


I'm going to mock your new passion. Yeah. You and Anthony Hopkins, right? Yeah. Yeah. Anthony is going to be God rest his soul. All right, let's go. Let's do one more, Gina.


Oh, all right. Let's see. Let's find a good kicker.


Um, so we're all used to working from home, and some people are even so exotic as to booking a hotel room or an Airbnb just to get away and do some work in a different, different environment. Well, you can now do it from a Ferris wheel in Tokyo. Remote workers are being lured to amusement parks in Tokyo, which promised free Wi-Fi and the opportunity to use a Ferris wheel as your office desk for eighteen bucks. Work from home employees will have full access to anywhere in the park for lunch, Ferris wheel and the best part.


After quitting time, anyone who worked remotely at the park gets full access to all the attractions. Suite day at work sounds pretty good now that first off I don't have a show.


Yeah, I don't know if everyone's got the inner ear for that, but I feel like a lot of people are going to be yakking on their laptop like they're going to be big zoom and this could be an avalanche of YouTube. TOOBIN Oh, right.


And also, I don't know, do you have full access to the amusement park? It doesn't really work. If you already have access to the amusement park and you've been working there all day, I hit it. But this thing I think Vegas was doing this right. I come to Vegas, sit in a suite, sit in the hot tub, work out of the hot table or whatever. Yeah, well, let's really let's really break this down.


I don't want work to be that good a place because I want to leave work, you know what I mean? Like, I don't want to associate you guys. Tell me what you think. I'm a car guy and I always drive a sort of pedestrian car. It's nothing highfalutin. I have multi-million dollar cars and race cars and cool cars, but I always drive a very boring car and everyone is always let down. When they see the car, I drive and they go, Hey, Adam, you're such a car guy.


Why are you driving that Infiniti Truckster or whatever? And I go because I don't want my everyday car to be special. I don't want to get used to that. I say because it's just my car. I know I won't appreciate it in four months. If you got me the high end Ferrari, I wouldn't appreciate it.


Yes, I always thought about this with views. I reckon it's if your favorite thing in the world is like going to the beach and looking out and seeing the ocean, it makes your heart soar and then you make it good. Ten dollars and you get a kitchen with 180 degree glass wall where you say the ocean. Then that ocean then becomes just the backdrop to all your domestic shit, all your arguments and failed cooking experiments and trying to get your kids to do maths.


And you've you've just turned the most beautiful thing in your life into wallpaper for Uhara, I reckon.


So be really careful.


I always go out of control and I bought a house with a view and then it was and it's true. I was going to take it, I take it for granted. Right out there is the ocean and I've got a blind shop.


I was going to say, if you ever get into selling residential real estate, don't don't work the Malibu beach, you are going to be commissioned so much. Why?


Rich people are miserable because they get what they want and it doesn't. Help them because because what they want becomes part of who they are, they take what they want, gets eaten up by who they are, you know, and so and then you go, oh, my God, even a beach view in a beautiful part of a pit bull shit, a human eye on.


And that's why they're sad, because they realize that nothing will fix them except being a nice person or something.


Well, and yeah, I was going to say I had this epiphany a little bit after this experience. And you guys probably I've had this, too, where I think it was about three years ago during Christmas break. We didn't go on vacation. The family, we just kind of stayed home. And we've got to eat every night. And after about the fifth night in a row of going out to eat, I was like, I'm not really appreciating this.


Like I should like I want to I want to really enjoy this. And I'm not really enjoying it. It's just kind of become the norm. And that is kind of the problem with what you're discussing, which is when we were kids, it was a treat. It was a special occasion. There was a little thing.


Every mouthful tasted them right.


It was a little foreplay to it. And once you just Haitian, right? Oh, I. I believe wholeheartedly. If you want to play the greatest, if you had the worst enemy of the person you like the least and you wanted to destroy their life, you would have a magic wand and make sure they got everything they wanted exactly when they wanted it. And they would kill themselves inside of three years or at least be morbidly obese.


Absolutely. And just because I'm here to plug my record, that song you started the show with our piano is exactly about this. And it becomes this sort of anxiety attack, a mid-life crisis, about the fact that we're just clawing, clawing to get more stuff and the gold keeps receding and it's really, really fucked up.


I'm not so positive yet. Poignant note to go out on Gina Grande. Indeed, I'm Gina grad.


And that's the news that, you know, that was the news with Gina Graff. Yeah. Let me give that Alma plug apart together. It'll be available November 20th, wherever you listen to music. And if you want to go to the website, Tim Minchin dot com, there's three I's in that all together.


Hey, Tim, let's not wait so long before we do it again.


This was fun.


Yeah. Be a great teacher. Thank you for having me. It's very nice to meet you, Gina. And I think just as well.


And if you run into Ben Folds, tell him I said hi and he should zoom in.


I'll be talking to him in the next couple of days. So I'll definitely send in your regards calling myself. Come on, there's technology.


You're right. And it's a good point. Yeah. If you run into anyone in the Hemsworth family. Yeah. Tell the kick the shoes off and come on the pot as well.


OK, no worries.


I'll send you at least one Hemsworth if you if you run into Olivia Newton John. All right. Oh, I've overstayed my welcome. Thanks. Tam is out. I appreciate it. Thanks for joining us.


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