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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy. Christina Aguilera. Welcome to Call Her Daddy. Hi. I'm staring at your nails.

Oh, yes.

What's happening?

They're so fun. It's open to Interpretation.

Is that a vagina?

It could be a vagina, it could be lips, but two in the same, both pleasure points. Holy shit. And then there's an actual mouth and tongue on the thumb.

I mean, this could be more appropriate for a Call Her Daddy episode. Casual Christina Aguilera is like, It could be lips, it could be my pussy lips. God bless you all. Up for interpretation. It's amazing. I love it. I need to gas you up for a second, okay? Because just in case anyone fucking forgot, you are a seven-time, Grammy award-winning singer-songwriter. You have sold more than 75 million records worldwide. No big fucking deal. You're an international pop icon, voice of a generation, fiance, mother, chief brand advisor and co founder of Playground. And this is your first ever podcast, and you chose Call Her Daddy. And I am so fucking honored. It is. I'm so honored. Dude, I can't believe I heard you've never done a podcast, I was like, sit down, baby girl. Let's go.

I said yes to you because I've seen you pop up on social media, which didn't exist when I was coming up in this business. And I've been doing this since I was six or seven, basically. But you feel safe. And I appreciate that because I've been through the gamut of a lot of interviews and people that... I grew up at a time where it was appropriate to be inappropriate and ask crazy things. But I always feel it's I remember the most intelligent way to go because when you make someone feel safe, they want to open up more. And you always do. And you're so pretty, by the way. Oh my God.

Right back at you. I think I've always thought. No, I really appreciate that because I agree. I think that's what I want to talk to you a little bit about today is just your journey has been so public, and you've been in front of people for so many years that it's like, I almost feel like people feel like they deserve a piece of you. You're a piece of the public. And I think it's important to sit down and humanize people in those situations because it's like, you're a human being. You have feelings. You've gone through shit. You're also the queen of reinvention. You have had so many fucking eras. It's like, iconic, iconic, iconic. Aside from the present moment, what is your most favorite era of your own? I mean, it's got to be probably stripped, and dirty, and beautiful, and fighter, Can't Hold Us Down.

It was the time when I was turning... I was 2021. I'd already gotten my foot in the door, and my first album was successful, but it was still very played by the rules and very given a set by very label-driven. And So after that, I was like, I have to do songs that mean something to me and are valid to who I am and being fearless and talking about anything. And that includes sexuality. I felt that there was a lot of shame and fear around the subject. And especially as a woman, we're raised with a lot of stigma. It's so layered, and it's tough to be a woman. So I wanted to really be who I was and make it a safe space for everyone to feel good and make it a conversation.

That era of yours for women in general, but it's also so funny. We can look back on it, but I know there was pushback during that era, which we'll talk about because it's so funny. Now it's like, Oh, go off, Christina. But it's also crazy to then read the tabloids back then. Oh, 100 %. Well, first, how does it feel the amount of people that still recreate your outfits, whether it was red carpet, music videos? It's insane. Every fucking Halloween, it's like, Christina everywhere. How does that feel that that's still so powerful in people's minds?

It's incredible. I love it so much just because now it's celebrated and it feels good. And even the people that got it then, but there was a lot of pushback. There was a lot of double standards with it. And there was a lot of... Because I went on tour with Justin. We did the strip Justified tour, and there were things where I was just like, why is it okay for him and not okay for me? You know what I mean? So it was just like, I was constantly pushing back. And my way. I mean, it was so inappropriate sometimes, the things that were asked about that era.

It's so crazy to me. And again, I agree with you, that comparison of a man doing the same thing, which we'll get into, because it's like, I'm doing the same thing, and yet I'm being called a slut, and he's the boy next door.

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Let's go back to the first time that you stepped on a stage. You were nine years old competing on the show Star Search. Whose idea was it for you to do a show like that?

I was And at that time, raised by my mom and my grandma, so strong women. And my grandma, specifically, really was so proud and really pushed it to be taken seriously as something to be professional because singing always just came to me as this release. I grew up in a chaotic upbringing as a very young child, and always feeling like a protector and all that. And always felt isolated in my situation. And so singing, it was a sound of music that first inspired me to sing. And from then, it was just a release in a form of expression for me before I even understood what that meant. And then whenever my parents got divorced, I moved in with my grandma. My grandma was like, this could be something.

It's so crazy that you're like, I just saw it as a release where I was using... And meanwhile, we see you as one of the most truly talented singers of period, point blank, hit notes that no one can. But you mentioned your childhood. And again, I think something in media is we see this version of you that's so put together, and it's like, oh, it's Christina Aguilera. She has money. She has Fame. You mentioned that you grew up in an abusive household. But do you remember the first moment you realized this is unsafe or something Is there something that you think is wrong?

Fear. You have to listen to your body. And fear is something that you innately feel. So right then and there, you know something doesn't feel good, and it's not right. And then having so much compassion for my mother and seeing when you see someone being hurt, someone you love, and then having so much compassion for my mother, and when you see someone being hurt, someone you love, then But I still... At 42, I'm still affected by this. It's under the surface. Trauma never leaves you. You just figure out ways to try and heal it. And to me, it's therapeutic to speak about it. And I saw my mom go through so much that I think that instilled a level of purpose for me in the sense of I always want to try and empower other people and people in situations where they feel voiceless and unheard. I just have such a deep rooted need to try and use my voice. I would later discover and understand what that meant to me. But it never leaves you. And you're triggered when you see movies. Immediately, you go to that place. I've done a lot of healing and a lot of growth and releasing.

A lot of anger comes with that. A lot of shame comes with that. But it takes a lot for a woman to leave those situations as well. And my heart goes out because some of them don't lead them. And that could vary in a lot of ways. Sometimes it's financial, sometimes it's fear of authorities not helping, and then it getting worse. Or sometimes it feels like there's no way out. But my mom, luckily, she really would do these drives from at the time, it was the last straw from Jersey to my grandma's in Pittsburgh. And we would just do these night. We just me, her, and my little sister, and we would just do the night drive. But all of that, it stays with you. But it's become a part of what's important to me is my message.

When you say you would do these drives? Was it while your mom had- I've never talked about that before. You're good, girl. Yeah, fuck.

Five minutes in.

No, but I'm like, holy fuck. Was that when you were still... Your mom hadn't left your dad yet, but you were like, or had they left?

There was some back and forth. There was some back and forth. There's always the tug of like, I'm never going to do it again. There's sweet talking involved. There's a lot of shame also in like, well, why don't you just leave? It is so much more complicated than that. And it's a mental breakdown of self-esteem. And you start to believe someone else's narrative and verbal abuse to you. And self-esteem is something that can break down so easily, even to the most powerful woman executive. It doesn't It doesn't matter what you do. We can go on stage and have these larger than life personas. But all it takes is for you to believe someone's negative narrative about you once it's in there and it's working its way in. That's why I'm so adamant with my daughter. I'm just like, first time somebody ever hits you, the first time somebody makes you feel not right about yourself. Girl, I'm so protective mama bear.

But as you should be, because like you said, you have that trauma in you that you're like, I watch a fucking movie and I can feel it. And I love what you said about the concept of when someone says, why don't you just leave? When people say that, it's such an ignorant statement that pisses me off. I had a loved one that was in an abusive relationship. And you're like, it's so much more fucking complex. But to leave, do you remember the moment that was like, your mom was like, we're out?

Yes. Officially, when the abuse started to really turn onto me, we We were living in Japan for three years, so we were super isolated, which is where I started singing. And looking back, that's where I started to sing out of this window. I have a thing about windows, and when you're feeling just trapped, I don't know, there's something about the representation of a window and just there's hope on the other side. And so that's where I started singing these songs from the sound of music and just to myself. And just that image, I'll always remember. It's a core memory of just There's something on the other side. There's a bigger world. There's a bigger purpose. I felt it at a really young age. But yes, it was a matter of things. And you're in a foreign country where my dad was in the army, so we're on an army base. In a situation like that, too, abuse runs rampant. The walls are paper-thin where we're living, and you can hear abuse just happening on the other side of the wall. You can hear... I mean, it's terrifying, and it's like all you want do is help.

But a lot of times, even when you call the authorities, you don't get the help that you need. And then the door shuts, and you're with your abuser again. So it's so important to try and research all you can, speak to people that you can trust, and really try and get yourself out of these situations. Because worst case scenario, you won't live to tell the story about it.

Was it hard for your mother to, as a single mother, take care of you and your sister? Then you started making money. Were you providing for your family? Yes. Yes, sweetheart.

Yes, still am. But you know what? In this role, too, it comes with responsibility, and responsibility that I know is destined for me, and I take on, and I take it on well. When you're in those situations, you grow up really fast, and you become an immediate caretaker and protector the person that's being hurt. And so, yeah, this is just my role.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All my dogs are rescues. I'm just that person.

Your mother. Yes, I'm a mother. I think back, and I'm 12 years old, you join the Mickey Mouse Club, Brittany, Justin. And I'm thinking about how wild that time must have been for your life. What do you remember learning at 12 about the industry at that time?

It's a work ethic. It teaches you work ethic. You're given a schedule, where you are in a call sheet. It's very disciplined, and you're either built for that or you're not. It's something that you realize very quickly if you're cut out for that lifestyle. It's hectic, it's chaotic, it's go, go, go. It's on the run, and that only builds the more you create. And I have to say, and my mom would always say I say this, too, she wasn't like your typical... I would be around these kids who were just really forced to do this, and my heart would break for them, and my mom would be like, What is wrong with her? Because you see these mothers, and the kid doesn't I don't want to do it. But it was just this is what I was born to do. So it was something that we really knew. And I pushed for the performances to happen again, but just in the most, I think, organic way to start, just because I loved it. And for the first time, I was around a bunch of other kids who really loved it, too. It was just born performers.

And it was really cool to feel that energy because coming up in school in the town that I grew up, it wasn't It's a sports town, and that thing was very celebrated, but arts and creativity and whatnot, you have that in Pittsburgh. But yeah, I just didn't have a lot of kids that truly I love doing that. And those kids were just how talented everyone was. Ryan Gosling. So crazy. Kari Russell. There was just so many people that it was just like, wow, what a casting agent to get everybody together. Totally.

I do relate to feeling a little bit like you're out of place where you grew up, and it only exacerbates the feeling of wanting to get out and wanting to find like-minded people. But it's so interesting also hearing you talk because it feels like you were almost made to have to grow up very quickly in many ways, where your ambition immediately led you to working at a young age. Your family situation, you had to grow up quickly. Is there anything that you wish that you could have done more as a child and in your younger life that you didn't really get to have a normal childhood?

That's a good question. In really thinking about it, probably I love my life. No, sometimes I would because I was working a lot, but I wanted to go. I wanted to I wanted to work. I've always operated on fight or flight in many different ways. And the more successful you are, of course, more is going to come with that that's very demanding and very I'm scrutinizing.

Do you think, though, there is the part of you that was really ambitious? Yes. And then naturally, we are who we are from our childhood and nature versus nurture. When you say you were always running, wanting to go, have you connected that at all to also your childhood?

It could have been. I haven't really dissected that part, but I always drummed really big. I always drummed really big. And Yeah, it could be. Looking for some maybe escapism. I mean, I think half the people that are in this business where we need... It sucks because we're the most sensitive people on the planet, yet we're looking for But we have this alter ego that we have to turn on to get the work done and to follow a schedule. But also that makes us so vulnerable in needing some weird value validation.

Totally. Totally. Your breakout solo, Genie in a Bottle. I was going to say top the charts. That's like a fucking understatement. It took over the world. What do you remember about the day that that song was released?

I was on my own pretty early, too, trying to get a record deal. And so I was like, house hopping from odd places, from my manager's house in the time to another manager. It was very odd and weird. And I would, again, mama bear, never with my daughter. I would be so protective and overseeing all that, which is a whole other story. But In New York, yeah, was where I started hearing it on the radio for the first time. So the album wasn't completely done and out. And I just remember hearing that, and I was just like, oh, my God. And it took me back to driving around the car in Pittsburgh and only hoping that I would hear my song one day on the radio and just dreaming about it. Again, big dreamer, Sagittarius, very like, sky's the limit. We're going to do this. So it was the most amazing feeling in the world.

Yeah. And I think, again, it's almost like dissecting what everyone was watching in the world was like, Jeanie in a bottle, Christina Aguilera, this hot, amazing, talented young woman. Then you're saying, oh, I'm living with managers. I'm in sketchy situations where the world probably wouldn't even fucking fathom that Christina Aguilera wasn't set up and all good. But what were you emotionally going through at that time?

Man, that's a A noted question. What was I emotionally going through at that time? I mean, looking back, I didn't have much time to even think about anything. I was given the schedule. I was told what to do. Told what to do. I My true opinion didn't really matter from everything. I remember being told what to wear, what the image was going to be, and not feeling super comfortable. That's also the product of a kid being raised in the business, too. Growing up and you're constantly being told by adults, and mainly men, how and what to be. And you're hearing conversations, too, of what they their ideal woman should be and look like. And so at a young, impressionable age, I just remember it was just so you take certain things on, and then you have to reprogram to think for yourself and what makes sense for you. So it's a lot to take on. So your dreams are coming true, but you're not quite getting to be the person that you want to be and telling the stories you want to tell.

It's so helpful.

I didn't live through all that for nothing.

No, but straight up, I will be real with you. I really think it's so helpful to hear you talk about this because I remember myself sitting at home with my older sister watching these videos. And to to know that this first era, not to take anything away from it, but that wasn't fully you. That was a lot of men in a room constructing, let's have her hair look like this and let's have her wear this, which I get is part of the industry. But Also, then my heart goes out for baby Christina because I'm like, that age for a young woman to already be dealing with insecurities and figuring yourself out, and then to have men be like, we need this, this, this. You were exposed to such a different level of criticism and someone being so fixated on your looks. How did that affect your self-worth?

I mean, it's a lot. I mean, you I would only imagine. It's difficult enough growing up and trying to figure it out away from the camera, but being in front of it and scrutinized and picked apart and judged and and But he's got a different opinion. That's the one thing I learned really early on is like, whoa, no matter what I do, somebody's going to be anti it, and somebody's not going to be happy with it. And I'd always diarreied and journaled. And I always had this, thank God, this core sense of myself and what I wanted my purposes and my messages to do and to help. And that's what I feel kept me riding that core line of bringing me back to real purpose and to be authentic with what I did.

Then you decided, fuck this. I'm going to add my twist and add actually Christina into the mix of who I am and what I want to be. And you came out with the Dirty Music video, which is so fucking iconic. I was watching it this morning just being like, every time, every time. I just get excited to watch it. But at the time, the press pinned you as this bad girl. They were slut-shaming you. There were literally celebrities coming out being like, God damn, she looks like a whore. She looks like a slut, which is so fucking crazy because as I was watching it, rewatching it this morning, I was like, it's such a major celebration of the female body and sexuality. How do you remember breaking away from what everyone wanted you to do and making this happen? Then how did those comments affect you once you released it?

Yeah, so many things popping through my mind. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go. Ten answers in there that I could think of. But yes, I was actually surprised because I was so in my zone of just expressing and creating this album and just truly trying to make every facet of it speak of myself as a woman. And I didn't want to fit a box of like, I'm sweet, and vulnerable, and demure, and I'm going to do the programed pop format. But I'm not any particular one thing or one brand. And that's what I did not like about the business is the fact that they immediately try to box you and label it so that it's easier for them to understand. But it was hard being a kid and being like, oh, my God, I'm just trying to live my life. I'm 21. I'm having fun. These were my college years. This was my moment, except everybody could see it. But I'm an artist at the end of the day. This is how I express myself. And I wasn't just coming with Dirty. Then we came with Beautiful, and then we came with fighter, which was a representation of my past and going against the grain of people that I felt really wronged me because that's another thing people steal from you, people that are so close to you.

I remember being so devastated about people that really disappointed me to my core. I was like, Oh, wow. I feel really alone. And then you want to retreat, and then you want to get defense mechanisms up, and then you don't trust anyone. As if I didn't already have trust issues from my childhood.

I was about to say.

It was just layers on layers on layers. But in any case, it's part of my journey. It's what I was meant to go through. And honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way because had I not gone through all these things, I wouldn't sing the way I do. I wouldn't create the way I do. I wouldn't write the way I do. I was like a sponge. I just took it all in. And when I was ready to just be like, no more, I don't care. And I remember being quoted saying, I don't care this next record if I sell one record or one million. All the cool accolades and stuff that's amazing. I'm grateful. But at the end of the day, I have to sit with myself and feel like I'm contributing a bigger thing to the world than just a pop song in a chart and an award. It's deeper than that to me. And that's what I always... And that's what I set out to do with stripped. And I was able to do it, thank God, after getting my foot in the door. But I was going to then play by my own rules and represent the woman that I wanted to be.

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I'm just sitting here a little, not in shock, but I will say, You truly never know what you're going to get when someone walks in a door and I'm picturing Christina Aguilera, grew up obsessing over you, had posters. You're so fucking normal. I don't know where I would be if at this age I started working and at this age, I'm living with creepy managers, and then this age, people are stealing from you. And to see you sitting here and having such a grasp on what happened to you. But every statement, you constantly are like, but I'm grateful and I have perspective. And it's really cool to see how you've taken ownership of what you can. Don't give any of those baskets any fucking out, though. I look back at articles and I feel like there were so many comments on your... You're like, oh, the articles. You're like, sweet. Which ones? Take a sip. Is there alcohol here? No. Were you happy being known as the tiny girl with the big voice? How did you feel about your body as a young woman that the world is commenting on your body?

It was crazy growing up and then, yeah, hearing people talk about everything. It's having opinions on everything. Your looks, your voice, your style. It's Everything.

Back then, you also exuded this confidence sexually on stage and in your music. And for the world, we were all like, oh, my God, I want to be like her. She's so sexy and beautiful and smart and talented. How did you feel about your sexuality back then?

I wanted to always own it. It was important to me. I think also the older I got and the more, and by that time, for most people, that would maybe be in your 30s to have that mindset of like, I'm going to do things my way. I mean, I'd grown up with so many opinions that I was just like, I'm not going to play by your rules. I'm not going to see myself as you see me. I'm going to own my sexuality for myself. Sexuality is a beautiful thing, and we need to take care of it as women. We need to really make sure that we prioritize it and ourselves and what it means to us, because every woman is different. And I never wanted to also insert the fact that I was so comfortable with my sexuality and we're going to dance it. You know what I mean? All this stuff. I never wanted to also, even though it did anyway, make some women uncomfortable with what I was doing. But I never wanted to make it like, you have to be this way, too. Everyone has their different comfort zone with it. And just because I want to express myself this way, again, let people live.

Totally. Let everybody own it the way they need to own it. Let's talk about it. And back then, that's what's cool about what you do, what you do, is we're able to have these open conversations now. Now I see women more than ever talking to each other. And it's okay and so accessible with our phones and social media. That's the positive of it and everything is that we get to have more accessibility to each other. Totally. And be like, this is happening, too.

Are we on the same page, girl? Totally.

But I didn't have that back then. So yes, it was very hard and very terrifying. And I took so much personal. I really did. And then you have people in this situation. This is why you're my first podcast, because you're so used to creating these certain walls and defense mechanisms because you're just like, people are baiting you. And then you're like, wait, I didn't say that. And I didn't say it like that. You know how it is.

You know how it is. No, dude, you're so right, because I feel like your era of coming up, it was like- It was extra hard. It was like, paparazzi, tabloids. I'm like, holy shit. People so fixated on every single move. What was dating like for you? What was your dating life like as you were coming up in your career, like late teens?

I didn't really have time for that, but I did... I always went for things that I would feel safe about. You travel and you meet certain people. But I was It's so funny that I gave this persona because I probably was the last person to lose my virginity. I don't know. It was something that was for me. You know what I mean? And that's, I guess, why my messages went the way they did, too, is because I owned it first, maybe. But it doesn't matter how it goes down as long as you find your way and your path with being comfortable with yourself. But we always get off topic.

When did you lose your virginity? Bring me back, girl. Tell us.

It was later than you would think, given the girl that was doing dirty and all this. But yeah, it's more of a funny thing looking back, where it's just people thought probably- You were popping off. But yeah, I had certain dancers that were close quarter because you have to... You're traveling a lot, and you have accessibility to only so many things. So it is what it is. And then, I mean, yeah, a lot of things that I'm just like, yeah, maybe I should have realized he wasn't looking at me. He wasn't interested in me. He was looking at him. No. Christina. There's a lot of things that I'm just like, oh, sad. I feel bad for my younger self.

I love you little PR trained. You're like, and maybe a dancer that was more into men, and I should have seen that. So okay, so you had an interesting experience. Despite being such an icon, I was looking, I'm like, you don't have too crazy of a celebrity roster attached to your name. I know. And my question is, Miss Aguilera, was that actually because that was intentional, or were you just really good at keeping things hidden and a little secret that we didn't know about?

Yeah, I definitely... I've had my experiences, but I also like, I mean, my life is hectic enough. And this is a very narcissistic industry. And my anxieties couldn't maybe take somebody that did the exact same thing I did and ran around and traveled. It's like, I know how this goes. I'm too vulnerable for this. I'm too sensitive to be so paranoid. So this business is very demanding. It's a lot. And yeah, I just I've definitely not been into the celebrity thing.

Right. No, that's really refreshing to hear because it's like you see some people trying to... It's obvious on the Internet, Oh, this couple is appearing, and it's like, to stay relevant. And I can imagine how obnoxious that word is of being in the industry for so long. It's like, how does the stress of managers and people being like, we need to stay relevant, we need to do this, how does that affect you?

It's just annoying more than anything else. I don't want to be corny and be like, but it really is to me about intentions. And if it doesn't feel right to me, I just can't do it. I have a really hard time forcing myself. It wasn't interesting to me. I don't know.

That's so interesting, too, because I feel like- I like more like the guys next door. Interesting. Because you know what is so fascinating? I do. Did anyone ever try to be like, Hey, look at these people doing couples. This will make your career even crazier.

Yeah. Yeah. If it's not real to me and authentic, I can't do it. I can't force something as personal as that. Totally.

I know you mentioned Trust Issues. Is there any? Because I don't think a lot of us can fathom the amount of cameras and paparazzi back then. Is there any paranoia that has lingered in you?

Oh, yeah, 100 %. I went through a bad period at a certain time where even the clicking of the camera, paparazzi, just was so upsetting to me. I'd have a panic attack. And I know I've heard other celebrities actually say this, too. And then you have really horrible stories that happen whenever you, again, starting to believe a narrative. And then, yeah, it's a very weird thing, that attention and that world. So, yeah, that is a part of, too, why it's just it's very It was an anxiety riding for me.

Let's talk a little bit about relationships, and then we're going to talk about sex. First with relationships. I'm curious because I am currently in therapy, and I think it's so interesting of we're all trying to undo shit that our parents fucked us up with. It's just the fact. I don't care if you have perfect parents, then you're still fucked up. So it's like, are there any patterns in previous relationships that you now recognize that you had to stop and try to break moving forward? Like bad patterns?

Yeah. It's still a process sometimes to really... You have to check yourself, too. I think There's accountability in things that even though they're not your fault, you're still conditioned and programmed in a way of fear and paranoia. And also sometimes not given a good guideline can really mess you up because then it's like, is this normal or is this just like, or is this something I need to leave the relationship for? I'm so into being like, okay, wait, do I need to be taking this shit right now? Or should I walk the fuck away? You know what I mean? What's normal? So it's a constant. I believe in therapy, too. The right therapy.

I know that you mentioned you have a collection of diaries that you kept for 20 some years. What's a diary entry that makes you sad for your younger self when you read it?

I think just, yeah, how hurt I was because I was so into this being like, one day I'm going to make it, and I'm going to see myself on MTV, and all this stuff. It was such a dream, and coming from such a good place to all of a sudden, you're shook by all the shit that comes with the success. And yeah, I think it's sad when I see how some press, and articles, and some interviews, views that were just so taken out of context or just mean, how hurt I was by that truly, affected. And then, yeah, it just makes you internalize negative thoughts about yourself and feelings.

If you can share what was something specific.

Back then, there was a lot of... It was a different business where there was a lot of female comparisons and double standards with women. And it was a constant pitting against each other. And it just felt like just punches in the face. And it was just, yeah, it's fucking hard. It was hard to just constantly feel like you're making music and doing something you love, and then someone spinning something so negative about it. And it was really hard because sometimes who you were pitted again, you actually genuinely loved and respected. So it was just like... But again, then you have people baiting you, and do you know what she said about you? Well, you know what I mean? And then you're like, wait, what? So it It's just like, and you're too much of a kid to understand what's happening. I hated that shit. That's why also now I'm just so excited to see more exposed women supporting women, because now you're cutting through the middleman a lot more, which is really nice.

Yeah. I think it clearly worked for the tabloids to have characters and ideas of if we put this person against this person, this is going to sell through because these are two huge names or three huge names or this... It's so insane. But then it's like, I'm an individual. Why can't I just be Christina Aguilera, this incredible singer, and leave it at that, and then let everyone also have their own careers because there's so many other people thriving. And that must have been very- I remember there was a headline that was comparing me with another artist.

It was like, It's like, Roe versus Wade, pick aside. And I was like, oh, my God. You're so dramatic. You're like, it's not that serious. And I was too young to even really understand what that meant. So I was like, you could just understand the level of how young I was being thrust into this world that was like, Wait, what are you saying? What are you saying?

Dude, the pettiness to compare people to Roe v Wade? Let's tone it down a notch, TMZ or whoever the fuck. You know what I mean? I know.

It was like a newspaper. It wasn't even like a... Yeah, It was too much. It was too much.

Okay. I love to ask people this because it does give insight. What is your biggest insecurity?

Girl. What is my biggest insecurity? Oh, my God, I really wasn't prepared for that question. I don't know. I could think of... I mean, I don't know. Every day, it's something different. It's a part of you. What is my biggest insecurity? Biggest insecurity, I think we all have this where we just don't feel good enough. I don't know. In every sense, I think we can all pick different parts of ourselves and pick ourselves apart for forever. But I really... It's something you have to train yourself against.

When you say you're not good enough, Okay. Take a sip. She's coming back. No, but when you say you're not good enough.

Everything. I mean, I think this business operates like a business, and it's a whole self-worth thing. And then image, yeah, I've been through the gamut of people growing up in this business, they're going to see you as a teenager, a kid. They're going to see you as a young woman coming into your body and expressing yourself. They're going to see you as a grown woman. They're going to see you be pregnant. They're going to see you go through the gamut of different places and stages of your life where you're different weights. And we all go through these things as women in general. But yeah, It's so hard to just be inundated with different opinions. And everybody has different standards for what they want. But again, women embracing this now more than ever. Yeah.

Not being good enough, I think, is the perfect answer that makes sense of just a culmination of this whole interview is you wanting to be yourself and being in an industry where it's picking apart every fucking thing you do, whether it's the people you're working with or the media. And it's never good enough. It's never good enough. It's almost like- Yeah, it's never. Right?

Never. Because everyone has a definition of what good enough means. And then the same people that are rating good enough don't feel good about themselves. And so where is this all stemming? So it's cyclical, and you have to really I isolate your perspective because even whenever someone's comparing you to someone else, you're like, well, wait, should I be compared? You start just second-guessing yourself. And so, yeah, it's tough out there.

It's tough out there. And how we get through that is by having sex. No, not transition. I'm like, no. Let's talk about sex. Yeah.

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What is your favorite part What's your favorite part about sex?

Getting off. I mean, it's not that cut and dry. My favorite part, I love intimacy. It depends. Every person is different. And that's what I love about sexuality. I love getting into it and finding out how everyone operates. How much of a freak are you? How much of a submissive are you? What is your playground?

How much of a freak are you, Christina?

How much of a freak are you?

I would say, actually, this is a question because I will answer that. I will say I remember my sex in college. I had lost my Virginia in high school, and I was like, I don't I didn't even know what I was supposed to just feel from that. What the fuck just happened? Was that supposed to feel good? And then when I got to college, I felt like, Oh, I'm having good sex. No, I fucking wasn't. No, I fucking wasn't. I thought because I was comparing it to high school sex, which was literally sandpaper, and it was awful feeling. Then I think as I started to explore my sexuality more like junior senior year of college, I started to be more confident and being like, Fuck the guy. I'm going to get myself off. And that's when I got a vibrator and I started to use lube. And it's like- Game changer. When you can get yourself off first and you're like, Oh, that is what I want to feel every time I'm fucking a guy, a girl, whoever it is. So I would say as I've explored more in the bedroom, I've just naturally become more of a freak because I'm like, I want to feel this.

I want to feel this with my partner I want us to explore new things together, if that makes sense. So it's been a gradual progression. I wasn't fucking great in college, and I thought I was a freak.

But nobody is. Nobody knows what they're doing at first. That's why it should feel like exploration, and it's okay. But you're so insecure at that age, and you see these movies and all that. You just want to have it all figured out right off the bat, or you're too young to speak up for yourself. And it It kills me, too, whenever you're grown and you feel too insecure to speak up for yourself, when you're not in a relationship that feels safe enough for you to have these conversations or even to compare notes with other women because it's so shameful. But sex is fun. And knowing your body is so important, and you're only going to know your body when you spend time with yourself first so that you even know what to ask for from your partner or what you like.

Do you incorporate toys into the bedroom?

I do. I mean, as you mentioned, the vibrator was a game changer whenever I was first exploring myself and first sex store I ever went into. And I was just like, oh, my God, I I literally remember even having this little pocket size one I could pack in my bag on an airplane. I was horny. You know what I mean? Are you getting off on an airplane? I know. She's getting excited just talking about it. But that's how it should be. Yes, of course. Are you kidding me? Sometimes it's an anxiety thing, too. A lot of girls, I would feel it very early on when I was in school, even as a girl, I felt nervous about something. I would be like, Oh, oh.

You're like, Oh, when did you start masturbating? When was the first time you masturbated? Oh, my God.

When was? Well, I think we all start as little girls. When you rub up against things, things, and it feels good. I think that's also whenever it's just you have to be like, It's okay. That's for have your private time so you're not doing it in front of company. You have to learn these things. And sometimes we don't have good teachers, and that make us feel safe. So that came early on. So it was like, some people, I think, have more sensitive areas. And I've always been engaged with understanding there's things happening What's happening down there?

Christina is masturbating on planes. She's getting off. She's having the best time of her life. What is your best skill in the bedroom?

Oh, wow. Oh, my God.

Where do I begin?

I mean, hands down, it's got to be blow jobs. I love a blow job. I enjoy it. I I had a lot of also male friends who I was always like, And what do you do here? I was literally... I grew up around them. So it's like, I know every different part and the sensitive areas. And I literally, I do enjoy I hear some of them don't like it, but I don't know, man. It's a turn on.

It is because, and I love that you're saying that, too, because we're like, we can enjoy ourselves. Get off. There's nothing better than if a guy actually knows how to eat you out. But there's something so hot about pleasureing your partner, because that gets me off. I don't want him to not be enjoying it because I know I'm going to be enjoying myself. Do you have any little tips? Is there any... You're like, I know the area is like, What area is Christina?

Well, again, sexuality is a very specific things. So what one guy might like, another one doesn't. There are some guys that don't like their balls being touched or tampered with. There are some guys that like brutal things happening to them. And yeah, there's a A lot of different levels. That's why it's important to be with a partner where you can really just explore. And there's still a lot more things that I have not explored yet that are on my to-do list. And I think it It's hard when you also have kids. You're trying to keep a PhD. Sometimes it's been like, Oh, okay. And you're here. Okay, amazing. So it's a lot of things, but it's something you have to make time for. But yeah, I I love that. And I also like, I mean, I think there's something to be said after you put in the hard work. I think swallowing is really a good thing, and it's got a lot of protein, I have to say. Christina. I'm a The odor of the swallow, okay? I didn't put in that hard work for nothing. We went in there, I got tugged and pulled, and there's things happening, maybe gagged.

I don't know. I mean, hey, whatever your pleasure points are, but it should be fun. As long as you feel good and safe with your partner, whatever your bag is.

I fucking love you. I love you so much. That was fucking amazing. Okay, top three sex positions. I think...

Oh, you're fun. I don't think you're actually safe to talk to. It's not creepy.

Yeah, like a male journalist like Christina. Top three. You're like, I don't have sex anymore.

This is definitely a new dawn, new day. You're safe about it. It depends on the mood. Definitely. I love a lot of positions. Sometimes it's Nice. Like early in the morning, from your side, from behind. And there's holding involved and spooning involved. I love to cuddle. I love to feel safe and protected. But then I get too hot, and then I'm like, okay, leave me alone. I just wanted I feel it for a second. I'm good.

The morning from the side is also so nice because it's like we're half doing it, we're not doing it. It's a nice wake up. You get your vibrator in there.

And then your ass starts being like, oh, oh. And then you're pulling. I mean, I like it. It's so good. The chairs might be on me.

Because then halfway through, you're doing it from the side, and then you flip on your stomach, and then it's from behind. The whole thing is nice.

It's so good. I mean, you don't know where it's going to go. Sky's the limit. But there's that. Yeah, like I'm good. Like, doggies sometimes in the shower. There's been some good times. There's the studio soundboard. Been bent over there a couple of times. It's fun. Use your imagination.

Christina, I love that.

Playing can be fun. We've definitely hid some things under the blankets when the seats are big enough to... I can't believe we didn't get caught so many times in so many situations. Thank the Lord.

I have always thought about that, but I feel like I'm too much of a pussy that I was like, fuck, I don't know if I'm going to be able to pull that off. Are you talking about a private plane, though?

No, I'm not, actually. On international flights, they turn the light off. The chairs are like, I don't know where you're sitting, but there's always room for- Room. Get creative. And you use blanket. It's like the position we just talked about, the little spoon. It's like, Oh, I feel safe with my partner here. We're just sleeping together.

The flight attendant is like, Ma'am.

Yeah. No, you got to wait till everyone's going to sleep. You know what I mean? So yeah, you got to... It's setting the mood.

Everyone's like, Note to self. Try to find Christina Aguilera on a flight at some point in life and sit next to her. Oh my God, that's iconic.

Follow these instructions.

I love how open you are just about all this, because, again, I think something I've tried to do in my show, and I love that you are doing is talking about this. It should not be shameful. We should not be embarrassed. We're celebrating the fact that we've been repressed for so many fucking years to even enjoy ourselves, to even acknowledge the lower half of our body and what's going on down there. And I think it's important for women like us to sit here and casually talk about I think it's interesting because I know how many women are at home being like, if Christina Aguilera can talk, and she's casually coming out being like, this is this. It's an exciting new era, I feel like, for women. And it's like, we get to own our shit and be like, fuck you. If you want to call us a slut or whore or whatever, we don't care because we're not. We're just enjoying ourselves and doing what we should be doing, which is celebrating our bodies and doing the same thing that men have done forever.

It's true. It's really, really true. I think because of generations of not knowing how to talk about it, being shamed for it, it being like something that's very celebrated from a male's point of view and objectified that we don't know where we stand with it. But now more than ever, I feel like this generation is having none of it. And we want to talk about it. We want to engage. We want to be educated about it. We want to know what's good for it. And we should. Now is the time for that. And making sure that's why it's music and lyrics. I had a song called Sex for Breakfast on one of my albums. We've never been shy about things, but this is literally just the next progression for me. And in passing something down to my daughter that she can enjoy and understand, this is nothing to be ashamed of. This is healthy, natural, put good things on it. Vitamins for there.

Vitamins for there. Okay, talk to me about playground a little bit, because why did you decide to be a part of this?

Well, I think the authenticity behind what it means to me being always in the forefront, either defending or celebrating or opening conversations indoors for women to be able to feel safe enough to talk about their sexuality and what that means for them. Because, again, everybody is so different, and there's no shame in the game. I just want to really just now at this point in my life, being a mother who has a daughter who's developing her own relationship with her body and asking me when she sees that time of the month for me, what's a tampon? What does it do? How am I going to approach these conversations? And in making her make sure that she feels she's taking care herself so that she can also engage with a future healthy relationship that's sex positive. Sex is very important. I love the product, Playground. It's all safe, it's all natural. And it just feels good. We've explored with this. Safe for you. And it's so pretty. It fits in like the... I love it because you can put it on your night stand. It's like your bedside best friend is what I like to call her.

And this is a product that's literally good for you and good for your vagina. And why aren't we paying more attention to that for ourselves?

And I love that you're saying, why can't we just walk into stores and be like, I'm going to buy this for my vagina. I'm going to buy this for my armpits. It should feel like a whole wellness check that I don't think also women feel like lube specifically has had such a negative connotation because, oh, you're so dry. And then a man is like, oh, are you not turned on? And it's like, no, you idiot. That has actually nothing It has nothing to do with you. Nothing. What a concept. It has nothing to do with you. So I feel like there's still this shame around pulling out lube. And all I can ever say is, if you aren't using lube, you're not having the best sex you could be having. Point blank. Point blank. Sex is 10 times better with lube. That's a fact.

A thousand %. And it's like, we wouldn't think of doing things to our face. We moisturize. There's women that do... We do 10-step beauty routines and things. We wouldn't think of going through a drug store and not hitting that section, not doing something moisturizing for our hair. This is the epicenter of power. We need to be nurturing and taking care of and celebrating this very important part. It literally It's the star of the show. So we literally need to be giving nurture, tender, love, and care to it. And also it should be explored. And what better to help do this? But then sometimes it's a little...

Get a little something, something It feels good. Yeah.

Last question. Last. It's over already.

No, wait. In a 2018 billboard interview, you told the journalist to write great things about you. Do you have any great things about yourself that you want to share with the world that you feel like maybe people don't know about you or misunderstand about you, that you're like, you know what? Listen to this.

Yeah. I grew up at a time, again, where there was a lot of negativity that was just always trying to be poked. I'm also... I I have no time for negativity. And it's like, I've been in the business long enough to know, I just want none of it anymore to be a part of the headline. And it's like something that as a grown woman, you can have more control all over. But I don't like getting poked under the table because then the claws come out. We're in an elevated time in all of our lives. We We are more open and talking to each other. And I want peaceful energy, peaceful vibes. I don't need to be talking about things that happened decades ago. Let's grow up. Let's embrace. Now more than ever is the time for that. And so I think, yeah, just don't poke the bear anymore. Don't poke. Don't poke me under the table because I'm still not going to be baited anymore. A long time... It happened for a long time, too. This happened even after I had my babies. It's like a lot of people, because they need some attention, too.

They're like, I'll get poked under the table and be like, it's one of those passive... What do you call these people that are just passive-aggressive? They'll poke over the table when no one's looking them and be like, I don't know why she's so up to... I don't know. She's crazy.

You know what I mean?

Just leave me alone. Manipulative because, yeah, don't poke me too much. Let's not get it twisted, though. I'm sensitive and all that, but I'm a tough cookie. At the end of the day, I truly don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? I just really don't. And this is why I just don't have time for the petty bullshit or just sometimes the celebrity status stuff. It's just like, I just I want to live a real life and a loving life. I want good things around my energy space is so important to preserve that. And for my children.

No, I appreciate you explaining that because it's also like, I get what you're saying. It's like, I'm trying to be over here living my life. Stop trying to have me come back into the bullshit that I was in for so long. Decade, decade, decade.

Grown I'm in shit now. Truly, truly. It's involved.

Examples. Christina, I honestly cannot thank you enough for coming on. I know you don't do this often. I appreciate it. And getting to know you truly. I respected you before, but naturally, when you get to know someone, the respect just grows, and you're such a strong, inspirational human being. And I'm so happy I got to sit with you. Thank you so much. I love you. Thank you. I love you, too.

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