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What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy. Sweetie, welcome to Call Her Daddy. Hey, girl. Finally. Finally. It's inappropriate that it took this long for us. You know what I mean? You came to my tour, and you went so fucking hard. The Daddy Gang was taking their tops off for you, screaming for you. Oh, you didn't see that? I didn't see that. Upper balcony. Titties. Really?

I know that's my pretty titty committee.

I had the best time with you, and I was saying to you earlier, everyone was like, So we don't get a fucking episode. I'm like, It's coming, it's coming, it's coming. How are you today?

I'm good. You look amazing. You look amazing.

Can we talk about your nails? I feel like you're very known for going hard with your nails. What inspired these nails today? When I say these, I'm also talking about your toenails.

Well, I always get bling on my feet. I've been wearing white I got toenail polish since, I don't know, my 20s. I need a white polish nail deal. Any other color, my feet look weird.

I do feel like no one can go wrong with white toenails, but you have more than white on your feet. Saweeti. That's like glitter crystals. I wouldn't be surprised if that's a motherfucking diamond down there. It's chrome. It's some diamond. How long does it take to do these nails?

It could range. Sometimes it's 2 hours. Sometimes it could be 8 to 10 hours. If it's Just free styling, custom art paint, and then jewels. It takes time. It's like drawing a mural on your fingers.

What the fuck are you doing for 10 hours?

Girl, I try to have meetings. I try to multitask during my nail appointments just so I can get things done.

I am the opposite, where I'm like, if I'm putting on a fake nail, if it takes more than an hour, I'm like, I got to go. They're like, But we haven't finished your last nail. I'm like, I don't care. I am so impatient when it comes to my nails and looking at you say, I'm like... And those are not press-ons.

But what inspired these is I shot two Christmas music videos, and I needed to get into the holiday season. So these actually have snowflakes on them and a rain deer.

Are you a big Christmas person?

Yes. I'm Filipino. Christmas is such a big deal in our culture.

Okay, because whenever someone's coming out with Christmas music, I'm always like, Hold on. Are you as obsessed with Christmas as me? Because I go so fucking hard. What do you do? I turn to my husband every single year, and I'm like, It's September. And he's like, We are not getting a tree, Alex.

And I'm like, What? Okay, real trees or fake trees?

I have a real one in my living room. And I go so fucking hard because the minute fall happens, I'm ready for fucking Christmas. And I want to edge towards Christmas. I don't want just December to be Christmas. I want the whole fall experience to be leading up to the main event, if that makes sense. So my entire house I'm decorating. But last year, I didn't do the outside of my house. Do you do your house?

I just do inside my living room.

Okay, yes. You're making it cozy.

Yeah, making it cozy.

What is your favorite Christmas tradition?

Christmas Eve with my family. What do you do? We open up presents that night, not on Christmas Day. But my favorite childhood memories would be my mom's mom cooking, Filipino food, Hella food, doing karaoke. And then at 12:00, we'd all open up our present.

I always used to be like, please let us open our presents on Christmas Eve. And my mom be like, one. And then I was always the freak that was trying to open them and then rewrap them at night.

No, I was like...

So my mom was like, well, then you're not getting any of your presents. But I was like, I'm obsessed. And it's just the best time. Wait, speaking of food, I'm swerving, but I have heard that you like a lot of different concoctions of food that maybe some people would be like, wait, that's gross. Can you talk Talk to me about some of the things that you're pairing together that are random but good, in your opinion?

Okay, so do you like sushi?

Of course.

Okay, so for a tuna roll, I'll get hot Cheetos, and I'll smush them up, and then I'll dribble them over the tuna roll.

That's fucking brilliant.

It's actually really good.

But are you bringing the Cheetos into the- No, girl.

Only if I do some Postmates to the house.

You're not smuggling in some hot Cheetos? You got your big purse and you wait for the waiter to walk away, and you're sprinkling. Not now, though. I'm not mad about it. Okay, so Cheetos on top of sushi. I've read, is this true? Spaghetti with Ranch.

Finally, a rumor that's true.

Stop. When is the first time you tried that?

Honestly, I grew up doing that. That was so second-nature to me. So when I had posted it the first time online, I thought nothing of it. And then I was trending an hour later, and I'm like, Why is this causing such a frenzy?

You're like, I've been doing this since I was born.

Yeah, since I was born.

I think also when you're a child, you do some stuff that people... I don't know. I guess however you grow up, right? But this is fucking disgusting, and I wouldn't do it now. But I'm pretty sure when I was younger, I put... This is gross. I'm pretty sure I put ketchup on my mashed potatoes.

Wait, but it's like a French fry. That's where it Period. Wait, would she want to hear something nasty? Yeah. So when I was a little girl in the middle of the night, I used to sneak into the fridge and eat butter by itself. And one day I got caught by my mom, red-handed, with a whole bunch of butter. Girl, she scared the crap out of me. She was like, If you continue to eat that butter by itself, you're going to turn into Chucky. I promise you, I never touch butter again.

Shut the fuck up. No. You're just raw dogging it and biting into it. Sweetie. I know, so this is wrong with me. You're literally like, going in with your teeth. Yes. Would you ever smooth it out so no one saw it in the morning, or were you just leaving it a little like, your little chicken?

No, I was going in in the middle of the night as a little kid.

I mean, listen, butter is... Look at us just fully talking about... We're going to talk about food the whole fucking episode. No. Okay, your legal name is Diamante. Yes, girl. Does everyone in your life call you that, or do they call you Sweetie?

Some people call me I would say.

What do your best friends call you?

It depends. Tell me. It depends from what era they met me at. Okay. My childhood best friends, they'll call me Dee Dee. Dee Dee. My middle school friends will call me Saweeti because that was my MySpace name. And that's where I had got Saweeti from. My MySpace was so popping. I'd be at high school parties, or I'd be at walking to school, and they'd be like, Are you Saweeti from MySpace?

Yes. What the fuck were you doing on my space.

Girl, I was coding the fuck out of my page. I was in the middle of the night, sweating, finding all the codes. Girl, I was a nerd. So my my space was very esthetically freezing. Stop.

You were a coder from day one.

I was a coder from day one, not even knowing that I was coding, girl. I should got paid for that.

No, Genzy has no fucking idea. If you missed the my space era, changing the backgrounds, getting your new song- Hiding your song or hiding your song that nobody knew about. Oh, my God. And so people literally just knew you because you were fucking cool.

I mean, I guess. Okay, wait.

Now take me back. Before you start your MySpace, where do you get the name Sweetie?

My grandma. Yeah.

How did she give you that name?

She would just call me her Sweetie.

That's so fucking cute.

Yeah. And then I was signing up for MySpace. And at the time, I didn't really like my name, how I love my name now, only because people wouldn't pronounce it right. So I was like, I don't want to put it up, and then people just don't know how to pronounce my name. So I was like, I need some fly shit. But then I don't want it to be basic. So I put the A between the S and the W, and the rest was history.

Who knew then one day that would be your global name that the entire world knows you as, and not just a MySpace community?

But you want to know what was even crazier is I had started a business, a hat and a T-shirt business. And my grandma was like, I know you're going to be a big businesswoman one day. I know that you're going to need your name. So she bought Saweeti. She She bought me the website Sawedi. When I was, I think I was 18 years old, 17 or 18 years old, she was like, I know you're going to do something. So let me just get this for you because as a businesswoman, you're going to need to trademark it.

That gives me chills just because it seems like you obviously had a pretty great relationship with your grandmother.

Yes, she's everything to me.

Is she still with us? Yes.

Girl, she's 70 going on, 21.

What does she think of your whole career now?

She has mixed emotions. She loves it, but when she hears the negative press, it stresses her out. But she's a preacher, so she goes to war for me in prayer. She's like my prayer warrior, so she's constantly praying for me.

What do you think stresses her out the most and what could be negative about you?

I think that the fact that she knows that some of the rumors aren't true. And she's just like, Why don't you say anything? This isn't who you are. It's just only going to make the story bigger. So I choose not to address certain things because I don't want to add fuel to the fire. And the best way to get rid of something is to ignore it. So she's just like, Yeah, but I know my baby, and that's not my baby right there. So she just be going through it sometimes.

But how did you decide? At what point in your career were you like, Do not give a fuck what people say about me? Because it's easier What would have been done?

I have two answers for this. Okay. So the first half, I would say, earlier on in my career, I would say I would just disassociate myself from Saweeti because there's Diamante and there's Saweeti. I'm like, Okay, if you all knew Diamante, to know me is to love me. I wouldn't be doing all this shitty stuff to me. So at first it was this association, but now I'm just so at peace with just who I am. I'm like, God knows my heart. And as long as God knows my heart, there's no problem.

Sweetie, why are you getting emotional? Because it took so long to get here. Tell me about that. What do you mean? You're talking about your journey to get here. Oh, you're making me cry.

Girl. Should we take a water break? We went from fucking Cheetos and the motherfucking pizza. I don't know why that just made me feel that way.

Because I think that when you are someone that is... You know yourself and what it took and everything, and then you read the bullshit, and it It's such bullshit. You're like, Wait, this is what I'm getting reduced to right now? I could be speaking out of turn. I don't know if that's your experience, but- Exactly. It's hard to be like, Guys... Oh my God, I see it from deeper. No, stop.

I told myself I wasn't going to do this today.

Here we are, one o'clock on a Monday. Without getting too detailed, I'm thinking, obviously, of if someone is listening that's becoming a new fan today or knows you, but it's a little like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? Can you lightly just explain a little bit of what we're talking about? Are we talking romantic? Are we talking friendship? Are we talking work beef?

I think it's everything because as a public figure, all parts of my life in those categories are exposed. But I think what I get the most sensitive about is my art. So I'm like, you all motherfuckers don't know how much I put into this shit.

I think it is important, though, to recognize, especially with artists, so much goes into it because it's a huge part of you. Absolutely. You're clearly someone that's not just being handed a script and being like, wear this, dress like this, sing like this. This is you.

Yeah, I'm very peculiar. So I have to be very involved with everything. Otherwise, Otherwise, I'll get the final product and be like, We got to change this, this, and that, and then it takes away more time. So I'd rather just be hands-on from the jump.

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When would you ever pop off on someone? When are you going to actually... What does it take? Never.

I never want to go off on somebody because the thoughts that I think are outrageous. Sweetie. Yes. No, my thoughts, and I just did my Vedic I have an astrology chart. And in that system, my moon is a Scorpio, so it just lets you know where my mind can go. So I'm like, Don't fuck with me.

For real. So you're always this calm?

I try to be because I just know I know myself.

Staring at you right now, you're so even keel, calm. It's nice. It's relaxing, actually, to be around you. But I'm trying to envision you what it takes for someone to push you over the edge, but you rarely let it get to that point.

No.

Because then they also win. Yeah.

Also, let's talk about that, too. It's an energy exchange, and it's just like, I'd rather alchemize the energy. Take it and then use this energy for something else. I don't want to give that back to you.

I feel like that sometimes in romantic relationships, it can be hard not to go tip for tat and be like, You did this and I did this. But I feel like you've gotten to a place where clearly So you're like- Interestingly, it's weird because sometimes it's like they want a response out of you.

They don't even appreciate the growth.

And it annoys them when you're like, okay. No, when you're like, Okay. And they're like, Wait, What the fuck? I literally just called you an XYZ, and your response is... I don't know what are you doing right there. I can only imagine. That must drive people insane. It's a superpower. I'm not as strong as you. I feel the same way sometimes with my words, where I'm like, I could kill you with my words. And I think when I was younger in high school and in college, if someone came for me or my friend, I almost felt worse when I would see my friend, someone coming for them, and I knew they wouldn't speak up for themselves. So then I was the friend that was like, Hold on, let me get the fuck in here, and I'm going to say something. But then I also realized, who is that helping in that moment? I don't know. I feel like sometimes I felt like being loud and taking charge and putting the person down would make me feel better. But you're just getting riled up, and they're just happy that you're engaging at the same level as them.

Where really, when you're like, What are you doing? They're literally screaming, and they're being insane, and you're like, Are you good? Oh, my God. They want to die. They want to crawl into a hole. They're like, Oh, my God. Wait, wait. So I think I agree the energy level can be interesting in the way that you with someone can heavily dictate also the way that you leave someone feeling about you.

Absolutely. And it took me a while to get here. I wasn't always this poised when it came to my reaction. So trust me, as long as you work on it, you'll see yourself evolved.

Yeah. Your career took off after you released the song Icy Girl. And it's all about wealth and luxury, but obviously, that's not how your life looked your whole life. I remember reading You were saying you would go on Craigslist and stay. How did that come to be?

When you get an apartment, you have to do first and last... First month and last month's rent. And I was like, Oh, my God, money for Craigslist. So I was like, Okay, how do I find a loophole? And the loophole was Craigslist because when you're running or subletting a room from somebody, you're only just paying for your portion of the rent, and it's their name on the lease. So thankfully, I've had some cool roommates. My two favorite... Oh, my gosh. Bless this old lady's heart. There was an older lady in Studio City, and she had a guest house. Oaks, and I stayed in her guest house. And then there was another woman who I stayed with in Sherman Oaks. I think her roommate had to go back and renew his visa. So I had subleted his room. And I was just being blessed with all these good roommates that were clean, nice, respectful.

I was supposed to say, you can have some horror stories, I feel, for roommate.

Well, honestly, you have to trust your gut. I'd go see some places, and I wouldn't mess with the energy. And I'm like, I I had to go.

You knew immediately.

I knew immediately. And also a red flag for any people who do do it, anybody who is super eager and pressing you to rent a room, I wouldn't trust that. That is good advice. I I don't know why, but when you're thirsty and eager to have a stranger come in a room, I don't trust that personality trait. Yeah, you're like, Why are you desperate? Yeah, why are you desperate?

I want to work for a little bit.

I don't know.

Something just be off a little bit. That is beautiful to know, though, that you had a positive experience with that because it's weird in life when you get matched up with people that you probably would have never met. And then that has a lasting impact on you and at such a pivotal time for you where you were looking for a home and trying to get to the next step of your career and to have someone be so beautiful and lovely towards you. That completely changes the dynamic, as opposed to if you went with one of the fucking freaks that was like, Come on, come on.

Exactly. That's the vibe.

Where would I be if I took that offer? Let's talk about your love life. What's happening? Are we seeing anybody? Are we in a relationship? Are we single?

I am seeing somebody. Yeah.

Talk to me.

Their name starts with a C.

I thought you were going to say their name.

You want to know their name?

Kind of.

My career, girl. Sweetie. No. No.

Not me being like, Oh, my God. Fuck. She's really down today. You're like, Christian? Damn. Okay, you're dating your career. Yeah.

Intentionally.

When did you get off the sauce?

What does that mean?

When did you be like, I'm getting off of men for a second. I'm not dating.

I just feel like I'm at a really special time in my career, and I just have all these ideas, and I want to channel my energy in a way where I feel like I can make the steps to where I see myself going. I'm just I'm just really happy right now. I'm happy where my life is heading, so I'm dating my career.

I love that answer. I think that needs to... I wish that was more of my answer when I was younger, because I think sometimes we naturally feel like, Wait, do I need to get back out there? Is it weird that I'm not dating? And it's like, No. I think you need to go through long periods of time where you can decide what your focus is. And I think that's amazing that you're focusing on your career.

And then also, let me say this. I feel like some people who have dated in the past, we would have been better off as creative partners. There was this TikTok. Sometimes TikTok be having the information, girl. There's this woman, and I wish I knew her handle because I'm so grateful for this wisdom she had provided. But She was basically saying that sexual energy and creative energy comes from the same place. And when you confuse the energy, you can sometimes make, I wouldn't say the wrong decision, but you can lean more into the sexual energy, but then that ruins the creative the energy because you've already depleted the energy.

That's such a good point. Anyone that ends up... Even if you're not in your specific industry, people listening, I get it. There's so many people that write in to me about work relationships, and I get what you're saying, and that's a great fucking TikTok, because it's the way that you can feel when you complete a project or you get to the next level of your career, or you guys go to a fucking presentation and you crush it. It's that feeling of like, Oh, we have to wrap our clothes off. And it's like, no.

It's a different way of finishing.

I fucking love you. If we were dating, what is it like to date you? Well, I don't know. If all of your exes were in this room right now, what would that be? Nightmare?

I wonder what that conversation would be like.

What do you think they would all say? Is there a theme?

A theme? Oh, my gosh. Girl, you have to ask them.

Would that be happy vibes or bad vibes if exes were in this room?

I think happy vibes. Really? Yeah, because I don't really... No matter what happens, I just be happy. I'm naturally just a happy person. So I'm like, damn, you did some shady shit. But my energy is so disconnected from you that I can not associate myself with what happened between us and just look at you as a regular human being.

Oh, that's so nice. I think a lot of people wish they could feel that way. They could not get so wrapped up in, You hurt me and you did this to me. And how dare you?

But also something we have to unpack, too, is a lot of men have unaddressed trauma that they don't face, and they project it on their partners. So sometimes I'd be thinking about stuff, and I'd be like, What happened to you in your childhood?

No, actually.

No, right. So then it makes me look at what they did to me because I know that they really love me. Yeah. I know that. So I'm just like, You got some things to unpack. You should probably handle that, because if you were to handle that, then we probably would have worked out.

It's such a mature way to look at things. Essentially, also what you're saying is it has nothing to do with you. And that's, I think, hard for people sometimes to accept. If someone is listening to this and just got cheated on, and you can't help but sometimes think, what did I do wrong? Or what did I not give them? And it's like, most of the time, it literally has nothing to do with you, which is a weird thing because you almost want to be able to pinpoint in yourself what you could change so it never happens again. But half of the time, it's literally on the other individual. You were doing fucking great. You were thriving, sweetie. Right.

And I knew that I was a good girlfriend. So I'm like, something wrong with you.

I like that answer. Okay. In one of your songs, you describe your type as someone who makes eight figures and is eight inches. What other qualities do you look for in a partner?

Somebody who has high emotional intelligence.

Moment of silence for that. We're like, Come to us. We're summoning you.

You back. Get the wheat more, bitch.

But legit. If they don't have that, I I agree with you, but how do you even get to the point where you can figure out, are they a sweet talker or are they actually with it emotionally that they can hang with me?

Honestly, just experience. We have to experience a unique situation, and that tells anybody how somebody is.

That's true. The honeymoon stage can be so easy, Daddy Gang. You can be like, Oh, love the sex, the conversations. And then you hit one bump in the road, someone has a problem with family or finances or- Insecurity, jealousy. And all of a sudden, how do you guys handle that? It's a good point. Okay, it seems like you have a type. Do you know what I'm going to say? What do you think your type is?

Bro, what's my type? You said you brought it up. You brought it up. It's your show.

Rappers.

Okay, let's talk about it. Okay. Okay, so for example, if you're at a high school, right? You tend to date... I mean, high school or whatever. Let's just call it whatever the proximity is. You're going to date with your around. And I think that's why I found myself in those situations, because these are the only people that I'm around. However, I'd like to go to a new environment. Ain't no one with that.

Do you think you would venture out?

I Well, me and my career is doing just fine right now. I like that answer, though, because I think there's nothing wrong with a type, and I also think it's- But I wouldn't even call it a type. I think it's just because of the proximity of where I'm always at. These are the people who I'm only engaging and seeing.

Yes. I remember back in the day, I would talk about how I had a pattern. A What can be be like, no, it was just a little pattern. I had a pattern of dating athletes. How is that, by the way? Dating athletes? Yeah. It's It's a... It'll fuck you up, but it'll make you... It's just... It depends actually what sport, too.

Okay, what's the difference? Let's break it down for Icy Gang and Daddy. Yeah, okay.

So baseball players. I I find that they are sometimes the sketchiest. Really? Because they're on the road. They have 160 something games a year. So they're on the road at all times. And they're playing so many fucking games, where as opposed to football, it's like 16 fucking games. And they're not allowed to have girls in the hotel room. It's super strict for football. It's like, We got 16 fucking games, motherfucker. Bear down and focus. Base, it's like, Another day, another game. And so it's more of a relaxed environment. There's road beef in every fucking city. We got Minnesota road beef, we've got Miami road beef, and they literally call it road beef. What's road beef? Women. Oh, road beef?

Oh, hell, no.

Fuck you. And I remember- Well, at least be some wagoo beef.

No, no.

But just to confirm, I am the wagoo. I'm not some ground beef taco beef.

No.

So in college, I remember I was dating this guy, and I would be around his single baseball athletes. And the way that they would talk about it was so concerning because it was just like every fucking city, there was a different rotation because I think it's like they're just on the move and they're looking... It's almost like when you're in a bubble, it doesn't even feel like real life when I was living that life with them. Every fucking day is this groundhog day. They wake up, they go to the field, they come home, they have a drink at the bar, they meet the girl, they go to sleep, they do it the next day in the same fucking city. So I I don't say baseball players are lethal.

They seem so clean-cut.

No. I never date soccer players because that didn't really do it for me. And hockey players, great buts, no teeth, great buts. And they're... I thought they were better than baseball players. Really? Still players, but a little nicer.

I've never been attracted to athletes.

That's probably for the best. But then again...

Because I come from a family full of athletes, so it just It always feels like you're my cousin.

I don't want to fuck my cousin.

Yeah, so I've never... Because I never talk to an athlete. Really? Never.

I think you also wouldn't have time for them. It's so on their schedule, and I think you have such a busy schedule. You got to be very available for an athlete. You got to be up and ready to pick up and go to their life, and you don't have time for that shit.

No, girl. I literally... I mean, you know this. I shot into four in the morning last night. And now you're here. And now I'm here.

Are you typically making the first move, or are they?

I have made the first move before.

And is that you going up to them and approaching them? Or what are you- I'm not walking up.

10 toes down.

And what are you saying? Floor with me, sweetie. Let's reenact it. I mean, it's just a mess. Okay, it's the vibe in the setting, but you're totally down to go up someone. I love that. If you see something, go for it. Absolutely. What is the bold this way that you've ever put yourself out there for a guy? No.

Okay, this is high school. Okay. High school. Okay. Actually, in high school, I talked to an athlete. Yeah. There we go. But after high school, no. Done. I remember It was my senior year, and I had a crush on this boy. And I was like, dang, I only got one more year to see him on campus.

The clock is running out.

The clock is running out. I was big in volleyball. I was doing my thing, and he was playing football. And we had an athlete room where the football players would come review their tapes. And then we played during the same season. So the volleyball girls would come in there. And it felt like one big family. But I was like, How do I get him? Because he was shy. Yeah. Girl. So it was Rush Week. So I go and I was like, I have a plan. So me and my plan get together, and it's lunch. And we're all sitting in the room. And finally, I tapped him. I'm like, Oh, somebody wants to go speak to you outside. He was like, Who? I was like, You know, probably one of the organizations, it is Rush Week. And he was like, Oh, okay. Because sometimes they'll recruit. And if you weren't an athlete, you couldn't come into the room. It was taboo, heavily frowned upon. So we walk outside and we start walking, and he was like, Who was it? And I was like, Me.

What did he say?

He started laughing.

It's really, really forward, and I love it.

He started laughing. He goes like, Why? And I'm just like, Because I wanted to talk to you.

Did you end up going on a date? Hooking up? We falling in love?

We started to go to each other's games. I mean, everybody was already going to the football games because they were winning that year. And then they were already coming to the volleyball games because you know how the football players got to practice? They go to the... Yeah. But we intentionally started going to each other's games to support each other. And then we would go to In-N-Out afterwards because that was the high school club. Open until 1:00 AM in the morning on the weekends. So But yeah, I would go over to his house and his family would cook for me. I would do my homework over there.

So it worked out? Well, not worked out, but I mean, what happened? Did he cheat on you?

No, I got bored. So I had to break up with him.

You got bored?

Yeah. I was like, I think we'd be better off as friends.

Shout out wherever you are today.

We love you. But I was honest. You were? Yeah. I'm very straightforward. If I feel I feel like something's not working out, I'll tell you, I feel like we're not working out.

Okay, what is the craziest thing an ex has ever done to you? Give us a fucking story. Come on, sweetie. Come on, this is Call Her Daddy, bitch. Oh my God.

Craziest thing. Go. This actually has happened to me twice. I don't know where men get their information, but I've had... I've broken up with people and they found me.

What? What does that mean? Wait.

They'll show up to my hotel and be like, Room service.

Shut the fuck up. Yeah.

It's happened to me is life.

Room service.

And what the fuck is cherry on top is they try to make their voices high pitch. They go, Room service.

If only there was a fucking camera outside that room of them, they'd be like...

Girl, but I know. But then it's like they cover the peak hole.

Do you let them in?

I did. I did. I was like, You found me? How did you find me?

You're like, somehow you're spinning it. You're like, romantic. You put in the work. He found me. Have you been someone to historically get back with exes? Or once you're done, are you done?

I feel like once I'm done, I'm done.

Except for when they show up to the hotel?

I feel like those were mini breakups. Okay. It was like we were going through something, I might have blocked them. Classic. It probably was a couple of days or a couple of weeks. It's a soft breakup. Not a hard breakup.

Yeah. Are you a big blocker?

I'm a big blocker. I'll send you a paragraph and block your ass. I want to see them bubbles popping up so I know that you're trying to hit said.

I'm obsessed. How long Because I'm assuming then you unblock.

I've unblocked before, but there's people who are still on my block list. There's been years.

And you don't even wonder.

No, I don't.

Because I think that... I remember I had a friend that we would always talk about this back in the day when I was in my blocking phase, and she would always say, I don't know how you block people. I need to see what they're going to say. It's so interesting to me. And I'm like, really? I want it to just fade into the abyss. Me too.

I love that. Go to the abyss.

I don't know what you're going to say. And then you can create what you think they would say in your head. But I don't want to know. Okay, wow. You're hitting paragraph, then blah. You're a genius. What is your stance on keeping gifts from an ex?

Every It really just depends. If it's a custom one of one, I'm keeping it.

Custom one of one?

Yeah.

What is a custom one of one that you have?

It's a couple of things.

Jewelry?

Jewelry purses. Purses? Mm-hmm.

What's the nicest bag of guys ever bought you?

I would say a customized Birkin. And he sent it to me before I met him. What?

I'm a very talkative person. I don't have words.

Yeah. It was like some player shit. It was my birthday. I was single, and We were casually talking, and he was like, What's your address? Isn't your birthday coming up? And I was like, Yeah, oh, that's nice. He's going to send me flowers. What's funny is, so my birthday passes this week. My Maeve's to have clean my condo. And he hits me up and he's like, So did you like your birthday present? And I'm like, I never got it. And he goes, It should have came in this box. So then I text my maid and they're like, Oh, yeah, we put the box in the guest room because we didn't know what it was. So I opened up the box. Bitch, I hit that group chat.

You're like, I was like,.

It was nice.

How long after then did you meet him in person?

Oh, for a A while. What? Yeah, I was working a lot.

You got a whole ass burk in before meeting a man? You have the voodoo clam. He didn't even meet you and he knew. But how long did that relationship go? Too long or short?

I wouldn't even say it was a relationship.

Interesting.

No, it was just my player partner.

Did he gift you a lot of things? Yeah. Red flag?

No.

Because you own it.

No, I think that might have been his love language.

Interesting.

I didn't see it as like, Oh, he's a trick or he's this. I really appreciated his gifts. They were very thought out.

The amount of women watching this that are like, note to self, find a man whose love language is customized Birkins. Okay, worst way that you found out that you've gotten cheated on before. She was up and left the room. She just got up. Oh, it's my heart, boss. I'm so weak. Oh, what is that?

Oh, oh. Hold on.

If you're listening to this, not watching, Sook Yee basically just levitated into the air and flipped off the chair.

I don't even take a little sippy sip.

Oh my God. No, bad.

Oh my goodness gracious. I just filled my water on you all. I need a napkin. Erin, can you please get me a napkin? That reaction?

Holy shit. Jesus. Jesus Christ. Okay.

Okay. I remember I was talking to this guy, right? Okay. It was New Year's, and I was like, Oh, my gosh. I'm just so happy to see this person. We go out for New Year's, it's a great night, and we go back to the hotel. I'm like, Oh, my gosh. This is the most perfect New Year's ever. We're out of town. It's just the vibes were vibing. You could feel the energy in the streets. Love was in the air. It's the new year, new me. It's all these great things happening, and I'm just like, if I felt like I was in a movie. We get back to the hotel, and I remember I had got a call from a childhood friend. When I had picked up the phone, I put it on speaker because I had nothing to hide. I'm like, Oh, Happy New Year's. He was like, Happy New Year's. I love You've been killing this shit. Keep going. So I'm like, You too. Love you too. Happy New Year's. I hang up. He's so drunk that he misinterpreted the call and was like, Wow. Okay. I know that you all be doing this, this, and that.

Projecting. He couldn't believe that I had a Plutonic relationship with this person. And this person is my childhood friend. Nothing is going on. So he starts cussing me out. He was like, I would never do this to you. He was like, Man, you can go through my phone. My code is da, da, da, da, da I'm thinking, he's probably just drunk. You know? Right. It's not the real code. So finally, he goes to sleep. So it's time to investigate. Investigate. Investigate. Investigate. So I'm like, okay. So I saved the code. I said, and it goes, You know it's the...

You're like, no.

I'm like, wow, that easy? Girl, this man has been playing me the whole time. But I knew it was a sickness because it was all types of women. Really?

Yeah. Did you go for the eye messages first or the pictures?

I went to the assistant group chat. I went to the assistant messages because the assistant set up everything for the man. Oh, my. Then I was typing in keywords.

Like-genius.

So I was pulling up all the receipts. Yeah, girl. I remember I had got so sick, but then so numb that I didn't care because it wasn't like one person. You know You're not obsessing over one person. It's like, okay, no, you have a sickness.

You can't stop yourself.

You can't stop yourself.

What word did you type into the search bar?

Girl, anything that's used to flirt.

You're like, P-U-S-S-Y, thousand.

Fucking Jesus Christ.

You're like, No, that's crazy. And so when he wakes up in the morning, what are we doing? Girl.

Girl. Girl, girl, girl. You know what time was had. I'm like, Oh, really? You're a tough guy.

Stop. So okay, back to the beginning of this episode when I was like, What can get you on a different tilt? Did you enter that different tilt?

Is what you're- Girl, I went to a different dimension. Stop. Girl, craziest night of my life. My best friend was staying in the same hotel as us. I'm just like... I was like the audacity. And then what made I always had add humor to my pain. So I'm just like, How did this boy get mad over a simple conversation, yet here you are doing A, B, C, D, E, F, G, X, Y, Z. You know?

No, that's when it's so crazy, because I've had an ex like that where he was cheating. And he would always get so anxious and say things about me if it was the most innocent. I don't even know that person. Wait, what? Here's my phone. I don't know. And when they're so hard on you for that shit, eventually you have to be like, well, what the fuck are you doing that your brain is even on that tilt? Because I'm not even thinking.

But it made me realize that when someone does that to you, it's because that's what they would do. So they're They're projecting. They're projecting from their experience. Yes. Yeah.

How long did you stay in that situation then did you leave? Did you leave that day? It's okay if you didn't.

No, but let's just say... Yeah, girl. We were out of town and... Yeah, girl. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

I have never had someone to answer a question like that. And yet it says so many words. Okay, wow. So it ended eventually, though.

Yeah, it ended. Clearly.

Where do you draw the line of forgiving someone when you find out they cheated?

Honestly, I was younger. So for me, it was like, Oh, this is definitely a deal breaker. But you know when you're in love with somebody, it's just like, Okay, well, I can't just delete you out of my life like this. But right now, in my adult ears, it's definitely a deal breaker for me. And in that moment, I think I would tell that person, You probably have to figure out why you're doing this. You know?

That makes sense. When it comes to your music, what is fair game of writing songs about people that have screwed you over or you've been in love with? Where do you draw the line?

I think I keep it ambiguous. Okay. Yeah. And I feel like for my album, I am going into deeper subjects, and I'm really excited about that. I feel like I'm in my diamond era. I came in as an icy girl, but through all this pressure that I placed on myself and all the pressure that I've experienced with the industry, I feel like it's pressurized me into this diamond that's ready to shine.

I fucking love that for you. Obviously, I know you have been teasing an album for a while. When can people expect it to come out?

Definitely next year. Okay.

Why was it so important for you to wait to release it?

I feel like I finally know myself. I felt like I was constantly in this weird transition phase, especially with recording. What am I even talking about? But with who I am now, I know what my public messaging is.

Okay, Christmas songs. We need to talk about this. I'm in my car, I'm like, oh, oh, oh. And like we said at the beginning of this episode, I love Christmas. You love Christmas. Talk to me about deciding to do these two Christmas songs. How did you decide to do this?

I love Icy Season because I'm an icy girl, and it's just like, I got to give something to the Icy Gang this winter. So I wanted to create two songs or a release I spoke to the two different sides of Christmas. I got Big Santa, where I'm like, Big Daddy, what you getting me? And then my other Christmas song is a little bit more softer, it's catered to you, vibes like, not only what can you give me, but what can I give you?

Oh my God. Sweetie. It's good. Everything that you do and put out, all of your music is such a vibe. And I think, again, I'm happy I got to talk to you today for a longer period of time than just meeting you on tour. But watching you on stage at my tour was such a spiritual experience, truly. All of us were holding hands and gripping each other, being like, she's fucking insane. Even to the point where my team had texted me when you were in soundcheck, being like, oh, this is going to be the best yet. You guys don't even know. You're so talented, and you have such a presence on stage and just as a person that I think is so exciting to see what you're going to obviously continue to do. But I'm obviously so excited for the album, and we want it, sweetie. We want it. I want to ask, just because I know, obviously, your fans are going to be watching this, what is one goal that you have for yourself coming up in this new year and your career that you want to share with your family?

I want to be an action film, like a Tomb Raider or like a Columbiana. Something with just action because I really love doing stunts, and I'm a sporty girl. But I love a good heroine.

That is the last thing I expected, and yet I can see it. Wait, are you going to make that happen?

I would like for it to happen. God, do you hear me? Yeah.

Can't There we go. Anybody watching this in Hollywood? Hello.

Wow. And my audition, too. I'm not one of those people where I feel like I can just show up and get the role. I'll be sending in audition tapes. Yeah.

I guess last question is, what do you think is the biggest misunderstanding about you?

I'm not sure what the collective thinks because everybody has their own opinion. But one thing that I do get a lot is that when people meet me, they say that they didn't expect this. I guess It's a common response that I get, but it's for the better because they'd be like, Wow, the compliments are different. But for some reason, there's been a disconnect with who I am and what my perception to the world is.

Yeah. That's interesting because I guess I agree and disagree. When I listen to your music, it's so confident. You put this shit on And you're like, I'm going to fucking feel good when I'm listening to your music. And I think everyone feels that way. And it's like an experience that you literally feel in your body where you're like, oh, fuck, yes. I'm about to pop my pussy tonight. Let's fucking go. And then meeting you, you are a multidimensional person. You're not just the person that's hyping everyone up. You have this sweet, sensitive side that I'm meeting today, and I met in Oakland. And I think that's something that we don't get to see as often with artists Just because understandably, we're listening to music, but when we are so fortunate to also get to know the personality behind the music, I have found through my job, and it's my favorite part of my job, when I meet someone, And they are a little bit different than maybe the main public persona that's being pushed, because I think it's, again, just shows people we don't know everything. You can listen to a song and think that people know you.

You can go listen to one of my episodes episodes and be like, oh, she's this one way. But understandably, I'm going to be different when I'm having a fun episode versus when I'm talking about trauma and shit. You know what I mean? We show up in different ways for different moments of our life. And I feel like you're such a beautiful person. Thank you. That I'm so happy that I got to sit with you because I didn't know as much about you as now I'm happy to know. And I love you. I think you're such a great fucking vibe. And I'm so happy that we've gotten to connect on this level because I like sitting with people and getting to know them more. And you're amazing.

No, thank you. And today, I realized why you're number one. Stop. Yes. This was such a comfortable, safe, and fun experience. Girl, you almost had me crying in the beginning, girl. You almost had me crying. I was heaving. I was like, Hold on, bitch. Don't drop a tear.

No, I really appreciate you going there with me, though, because again, everything we see online, it can come off as fake. And I think when you get to do long form shit like this, you actually get a chance to start to finish. People now are going to understand you more. Not that you need to give that to them, but you're a great fucking person, so why not? Thank you. Oh, my God, sweetie, we did it. Thanks for coming to call our daddy.

Thank you..