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Spencer Pratt, you will obviously never be as relevant as you were. How does that make you feel?

Oh, yeah? Fuck you. Fuck this interview. Stupid podcast. Fuck.

This shit's over in here.

Is he actually leaving? What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper. We call her daddy. Okay.

Here we go. Mister

it's it. Pratt. Oh my gosh.

Look at this outfit. I love it. Oh my god. It's so nice to meet you.

That's attacking me.

Oh my god. The devil?

Well, the second I get in my car, it's never happened in my life. It says engine coolant. I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? So go the gas station. I'm like, I buy engine coolant.

I put it in, and it's, like, spraying out. I called BMW service. They're like, you need to tow it right now. I'm like

You're like, I gotta go to call her daddy. No. Fuck the car. Like, Oh my god. Okay.

Do you can you mic yourself up immediately? Because we're we're getting into this.

This is very fancy.

Wait. Isn't it cute? It's my Spencer, it's the first time I'm using these.

I feel honored.

I'm honored because I knew you were someone that would know how to put it on and use it.

I usually let them do it. That's, like, the perks.

So I should have done it. Okay. We're going over here to make it great.

You didn't even get good tequila. No. This is embarrassing. I I won't actually touch these bottles. Wait.

Are you serious? Oh, I can't be on camera with that 1.

Wait. What do you drink?

I mean, I was bootleg enough would be, like, class of Zuul. It's as low as we're gonna go.

This is all I had from, like, random people.

I'll watch.

I'm not getting me on camera. Hold on. I mean, this was I drink this in

Wait. Do I have anything else? Spencer, I

tried for you too. Come on. Spotify. What is going on? Budget cuts.

I have a champagne bottle. Okay. So Spencer, right off the bat, is just shitting on me for not having

Oh, so I needed this. Good.

Did you get

That that car coolant. I was a lot Okay.

Yeah. Let's talk about what happened.

Alright. So I get in the car. I was gonna be very early. I was gonna sit in the car, meditate, you know, just visualize the best freaking podcast ever. And I get in the car, and it says engine coolant.

I'm like, I'm not a mechanic, but this looks seems bad. So I go to the car place real quick. I'm like, I need engine coolant. I'm very late to the biggest car gas in my life, statistically. And so he's like, oh my god.

It's leaking everywhere. And I'm like, pour more in. So we pour more, and I called BMW. They're like, you need to tow it here. Right?

I'm like, I'm not towing it. They're like, the car could shut down on you. And the way that I'm like, well, then it's gonna shut down because I'm not missing this. Let's pop the Dom here.

Okay. Okay. Do you wanna pop the Dom?

I mean, I'll drink that.

Okay. Let's do that. Let's do that. That's that's a better way to go about it. Okay.

I feel like you should do the honors.

You know, here's the thing I've learned because Heidi is a professional champagne bottle opener. I used to like the, like, excitement of Right.

Like, you wanna spray it

all over my camera? Yeah. And she's like, no. You're not even supposed to have, like, barely a noise. It's not a game to, like, you know, you guard that you come in like that.

You treat it like that because people always, you're gonna just gain it. So the key, what I've been taught, is you just slowly it's it's less exciting, but let's not let's not waste this money. Wow.

I mean, kicking off the caller daddy podcast, it's beautiful. Cheers. I wish

to daddy gay. Cheers. I am so honored to be involved with your mafia. You have I'm

so honored you're here. They're gonna love you. Zinsser, you are popping off on TikTok. I need to know what is your strategy.

It was drinking, and then that's why I haven't been TikTok ing. Well, here's what happened. Here's what happened. I don't know how it happened. So what people loved to so I had to stop because Heidi was, like, you play the hills in the house anymore.

Like, I'm gonna choke you. Like, she can't even. It's, like, nails on a chalkboard. So I'm, like, honey, these are going viral. Like, this 1 just did a meal in, like, 10 minutes.

And she's, like, I don't care. Like, stop talking about that. So I'm, like, it's relevant to a niche micro audience, honey. So That

is fucking cool. It's a

hard balance because I'm also blowing up all these people that I can't stand.

Yeah. Yeah.

So it's, like, Dwight. Like, I'm, like, oh, the views, but I'm like, nobody you know?

I kinda love that Heidi's like, Spencer, knock it the fuck off. And you're like, can't hear you. A million views. Gotta go.

This is so delicious. Spencer? I can't believe you don't have my charcuterie plate, though, for us.

Oh, no. We were going upstairs to the interview. Are you ready? Should we bring this or no? Let's leave it.

You need to drive home in your fucked up car.

Oh, no. I'm towing it.

Oh, here? You're

towing it here? Situation.

Oh, you're towing it here?

I wasn't supposed to get here.

Is Heidi picking you up?

I said I would Uber? Black Uber ex you know, whatever.

Sensor? It's all about the money. Let's go upstairs. Oh my gosh.

Alright.

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Deep breath.

No. I'm praying.

You're praying? Do you wanna pray out loud?

Please, god, have this just be the greatest podcast to ever hit the waves of this dimension. Have it just touch so many people's hearts in a positive, enlightening way, God, and just truly be a blessing for everyone's ears. And if they're visually watching this with captions, just when they read it, just have their uplifted and inspired. Amen. That was a little too much holy spirit.

Almost fainted there. Oh my god. Oh my god. Do you

do you believe in God?

Oh, yeah. Okay. But I mean, Heidi, like, took it to the next level because she's, like, a preacher.

Really?

Like, I was trying to be an Illuminati when I met Heidi. Wait. Were you really? Oh, 100%. I didn't realize they're, like, drinking blood and, you know, and all the weird weird I thought it was just, like, sex parties, like Eyes Wide Shut,

you know. Right.

Everybody older than, you know, 18. Totally.

You wanted to be a part of the sex parties.

Not just the the party, but like

that perk.

Like the Tom Cruise movie. Like, that looks, you know, for any like, minus, like, people disappearing. It looked

like Totally.

My vibe.

Thank you for kicking us off. I feel really zen and calm. I almost just started crying. I don't know if it was tears of joy or laughter, but it was something. You got an emotion out of me.

I mean, it it hit me too. I don't know. It's good AC in here, but it was

Like, I almost fainted. Dazzle. Okay. Spencer Pratt, welcome to caller daddy.

I am so honored.

You grew up in California going to school with celebrities and celebrities' kids. Who was the first famous person you remember meeting in your life?

Oh, hands down, Meryl Streep. I was on the set of Death Becomes Her, I think is the title, where she's, like, falling apart. So shout out. She would deny knowing me at this point. But I I think her name was, Mamie Gummer.

We were BFFs. We're very young. We would go set, and it was Meryl Streep, and I would be chilling on set. So yeah.

I did not expect the answer. That's fucking baller.

Oh, I mean, I went to Crossroads. The list, like

Right.

Goes on, but that's, like,

in my domain.

The cool, like, just in this mansion and you know? But I mean, then it's next thing you know, I'm having a slumber party with Hillary Clinton. You know? So, I mean, like, my

childhood You have to clarify. You're having a slumber party with Hillary Clinton? What do you

mean? Best friend, Charlie, his parents were best friends with the Clintons from Arkansas. And so when I was a kid, you know, I'd always sleep over at Charlie's house. But 1 night, you know, you know, I was prechecked. You know?

I knew this was gonna happen. So Secret Service did their thing. I think I was a safe 14 year old or whatever. And so, yeah, slumber party. I was in the kitchen with Hillary.

That was wild.

So you reference your high school and how you were surrounded by, like, a lot of famous people. What were you like in high school and what did the other kids think about you?

Well, I try to say that I am exactly you know, I've learned a lot of lessons, but I would say I'm the exact same person that I've always been and I haven't changed. So, you know, I had just as many people that didn't like me back then. You know, I had, you know, enemies putting up, you know, dicks drawn on my face around town. You know? So I came in, like, hot.

You know? So I think because, you know, for my private school world, soccer was our big sport. We didn't have a football team. So, I was, for my world, really good at soccer, so I was on the older teams. So

Got it.

You know, when I was 15, all the seniors, I was rolling with them. So, yeah, everything got fast forward. Like, when I watch I don't watch Euphoria. When I see Cliffs, I'm like, oh my god. This is the Disney Channel compared to, like, LA and growing up.

You know? Now it's crazy because you just diaphenol and whatever. So it's a little it's definitely, like, darker now. So I I pray for these kids. But, it was amazing.

I everyone's always like, oh, why don't you, like, write it? Like, people that know me are, like, you should write a memoir. I'm like, like, no way.

You wouldn't?

Well, right now, I just found all these tapes. And I was like, maybe I just cut together, like, how he was calling it selling Spencer. It was because I really have just been trying to sell myself for all these years. Not my soul though. That's the 1 thing I've I've stayed.

So that's why I'm not rich and famous is because I didn't cross that tier of

What would crossing that tier looked like though? Because I think to the world, it looks like you sold it.

Oh, no. There's a whole another satanism level that, you know, I didn't unlock.

Like, what would you do?

I mean, I what do they do?

Right.

These people that you just they're not upfront with it, but there's a I'm a we're talking spiritual level. Not like, oh, what you say on Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Show.

Like, these people are going

Okay. So it's interesting because I feel like what you were saying about being in high school, like, you were always kind of this, like, polarizing figure. There are gonna be people that like me and then there are gonna be people that don't like me and that's okay. But when you were younger, did you ever get in trouble for your temper?

Well, in 1 soccer game, you know, backstory. So in high school, you know, we went to GNCs. You get protein powders. You get energy. So at the time, there was this product called Rip Fuel.

And I was like, that's every brand I wanna be, ripped and fuel. So and they had a strawberry flavor 1. So I would be hitting Rip Fuel before games. You know, you just mix in your water. It's it's legal.

It's Right. By it's like Gatorade for me or whatever. You know, I never drink Gatorade though. It's not brought to you by Gatorade. I can't be promoing Gatorade.

So, yeah, I was all pumped up on Rip Fuel, you know, and it was very competitive. I was taking this very serious. And so so this was the semifinals, and there was, like, a team little meeting the night before the game that this coach who no longer the coach for a reason.

Okay.

Shout out Fed, the new coach. So the seniors didn't go to this team meeting that was unnecessary the night before a game. Mhmm. So the next day, biggest game of the senior year, semifinals, he benches all 8 of the best players. The seniors, hands down, the best players, including myself.

We're now losing at half, like, 2 0. You know, I'm pacing the side of the I'm like, this is like, you we get it. Like and he wanted to make a point, like, we don't need you. Like, he thought they were gonna do fine with, like, whatever. So finally at halftime, we go back in.

I go in, score 2 goals, tie it up, so pumped up. Score a 3rd goal. Now we're winning. He goes, sub. He tries to pull me out.

I'm like, I don't know if I flicked him off or whatever. I'm like, you know, I must have been being like, what's up? Like, you know I mean, the crowd, this is back when people cared, you know. You know, like living you know, this was our Friday night life.

Right. Right?

It was probably on Friday too. And so, you know, I went to the sideline and, you know, maybe got in the coach's face. And my mom ran on the field. My mom you know, this was crazy what he did. So my mom backed me up, but I didn't hit anybody.

I didn't there was no it was just yelling. He's yelling back. So I get called in because they're maybe gonna suspend me. And they're like, you were acting very pumped up. Like, were you on something?

I'm like, yeah. Rip fuel. And they're like, what's rip fuel? Can you bring this in to like the principal office, Tom Nolan, Bob Riddle just retired. Bye bye, Bob.

So I bring in the rip fuel and they read the back of it, and it had ephedrine in it, which is now illegal. And they decided it was, like, speed. So I would just dose up on, you know, Brit fuel. So that got me not suspended or expelled or whatever. But other than that, like, no.

I was teacher I I have tight with all the teachers.

So you got to blame your behavior on Brit fuel.

I mean, it was it was a stimulant.

Totally. Was anyone else taking it with you?

The whole team.

We're all. Yeah. Yeah.

But, I mean, I was more pumped up.

So who was your first famous friend?

Like that we kicked it with all it. Like the first famous person we started kicking it with, was Paris Hilton. Pete, the most famous person on planet. That was when I saw like firsthand real deal new modern tabloid fame. Because I mean, I had grown up with, you know, a list celebrity parents.

And I saw that's more low key and it hadn't this was peak. Paris coming in the game. Tabloid cover, energy, paparazzi. And I will always say, you know, I'm not close with her. I don't know her, you know, But she was so consistently nice and like a she didn't even need to, like, I'm a, like, entourage hanger on her, like, rando and still got treated with, you know

That's dope.

So I'll always say, you know, shot good for you, pal.

That Paris Hilton era was the beginning of it all with paparazzi. Like, do you think that sparked something in you of, like, damn.

No. I was I was telling people at age 16, bringing in Us Weekly covers, telling folks, get ready. I'm a be on the cover of Us Weekly. And people were like, what is this? My mom always had tablets.

So I grew up with tablets around the house. And but nobody appreciated them. Like, I dig. So I was free Paris, I was already coming hot. Like, there was no doubt in my mind.

You were gonna be on those tabloids. Okay. But in your head, Spencer, what were you thinking you were gonna be on the tabloids for?

I had no idea. But I was like, I'm gonna be famous. These these famous people have it so figured out. I mean, because when you grow up seeing how famous you will live, like, you you know, as a just eyes on, like, the the reservation that's world's over, by the way. Like, people are like, oh, he's so thirsty.

He still wants to be famous. Like, fame isn't even cool anymore. No. And I would love to have it, but it's still not, you know, nineties to early 2000 when these people lived. I mean, they were taking helicopters, landing on red just the rules have changed the game.

So what I grew up thinking fame was, is so different. Like, I wouldn't grow up now and be like, oh, all due respect to TikTok. I love being viral on TikTok, but I don't think I'd be like, oh, my God. I wanna be a viral TikToker as, like, what I was chasing.

Like, if you had grown up in Ohio, like, do you think because of where you grew up and what you're around is why you wanted to be famous because you got to see

the world? Percent. Like, I think in Ohio 1 of these other states, I would have ended up in, like, Delta Force and gone in the military or met a spy or something. Yeah. That was my brand.

That's why I don't have tattoos because that was always like, well, if I am gonna be Jason Bourne, you can't have tattoos. So, you know, like, I was like deep in. Logical. But the problem was I lived in the Palaces. I was like, I'd get killed or, like, go to Nobu.

Right.

I wanna go to Nobu and not have

to go and, like, cry. In a different state, I that's the energy I have.

Okay. I was looking this up and nowhere is this story. When and how did you meet Brody Jenner?

Rewind to 8th grade. I won't say her last name. Maybe she's anonymous. Heather was the it girl on the 8th grade soccer team and I was on the soccer bus because they had other guys and girls on the same soccer bus. Brody played no sports.

So 8th grade, Heather was the hot, super hot superstar girl. And Brody was her boyfriend. And so I was like, this dude. And Brody at this time thought he would you know, it's pre M and M, I think. But Brody was like a a large M and M, like, no pun intended.

You know, he's a bigger guy. He loved to melt cheese. I later found out he just melt a cube of cheese and just, like, eat it with a spoon. So he was he then got ripped and, like, changed. But this Brody was, like, a rapper, melted cheese.

And I was, like, how is this happening? So we had just beef in the sense. I was, like, how is this your girlfriend? Like, we have soccer practice together. We have way more common.

So I don't know what I said, but we got in, like, the only little chubby match in middle school. So that way, we had beef. Right? But then years later, this girl that I was seeing, Casey, I won't say her last name because I'm not trying to catch a case, she was dating me and I somebody tells me that's Brody's girlfriend. I'm like, she's not Brody's girlfriend.

Like so I bring it up to her and I'm like, do you have a boyfriend? And, like and she's like, well, I didn't think we were, like, exclusive care. I was like, oh, no. I don't care. It's all good.

But it's like, I reach out to Brody through mutual friends. I'm like, yo. You know? I know we're not cool or whatever, but we should meet at Don Antonio's and and talk. You know?

Because I guess I heard he, like, love this girl. And I was like and so we meet up, and I'm like, your girlfriend is not your girlfriend. He's like, and I'm like, I I, like, I didn't know. Like, she told me, but I when I found out, that's why I called you. And he's like, I'm gonna come.

Like, no. No. No. No. No.

You know? This is pre all these teen movies. We should have made a teen movie. I was like, I think we play this out a little bit. So we started becoming best friends on, like, making plans with her.

And then the other person would can't like, he'd cancel and then she'd call me and I'd be like, yeah. Yeah. And then she may get those plans and, like, we did this for a while to the point where, like, you know, maybe we crossed the line or whatever, you know. But it was like, you know, you wanna play the game.

We'll play the game.

Yeah. Let's play it. So we became best friends at this is probably 18.

How did you get cast on The Hills?

So now we're going back to, I'm now in college. I don't know how I see something about The Osbournes making $25,000,000 for the and I'd seen the show. I was like, oh, this is entertaining. They got dogs pooping. Ozzy yells like, da da da.

And so I'm like, I'm gonna make a reality show. So I called Brody. I'm like, we gotta meet at Chang's when Chang's had just this is like Chang's was mister Chow's at this point. There wasn't mister Chow's. Like, this was the hottest Chinese food spot you could go to.

So we meet at Chang's. He brings Chuckie, his, like, consigulary, like, advisor, Chuckie Deku. And, so I'm like, I wanna make a reality show about you. And he's like, I don't know about that. And Chuckie's like, you should do it to Bernie.

He's my advisor. I'm like he's like, here's the deal. If you come to my house tomorrow at 8 AM with the camera, start filming, I'll do it. And he's calling my bluff because I'm a sleeper in at this time. Like, I'm not trying to be up all the way in Malibu, like, at Cross Creek.

So I had a camera because I just tried to shoot a documentary in Brazil about, like, the like, I tried to make my own Taken, you know, like, pre Taken with, like, a kidnapping, and I shot this full film that I was like

Can you please release that?

It's pretty hardcore because it was like I use real people and, like, like, people that see it are like, this is so inappropriate and intense. But, like, at that time, kidnapping was, like, the big thing. And I was already in Brazil, and I, you know, I was like, I needed to make a So it looks it's too real. You know? Like, it's like so I'm like, you're like, woah.

Like, it was like, oh, they we're in we're tourists and then then, like, the vans come and duct tape. Like, it's crazy. You guys should like but it like I could've if I had like a good editor, I would've won of Sundance because it was like no act. Like Right. I went to the flavellas, gave people cash, all real guns from like got real cops to, like, check I mean, it was so crazy because I wanna be a filmmaker, you know, like like, I didn't, you know, that was clout.

It was like Michael Bay, like Totally. You know, so I was like, I'm making money. Yeah. So I edit this. I show Brody.

He's like, bro. Don't you dare show anybody this. Like, you all go to jail. Oh my god. But I mean, everyone's in on it, you know, like like

Nothing bad is happening.

I think

it looks a little Yeah.

And Rodee's side. People are gonna be a little concerned this was your girlfriend at the time. Like, it's like she wanted to be an actress. Like, she was an actor. There's clearly evidence showing this was, you know fine.

She was fine. Everyone was fine. And, like But

it was a little too real.

It was as real as it gets.

So it's like, so Okay.

So you

don't have to worry about it. A kid now, so in Brazil, I I have the full You know how to explain. So I had the camera, the good camera, GL 2 Canon. And so I show up 8 AM. I have this 1 tape.

Like, I rewatched this the other day. I show up, camera on him, in his nose, just trolling him, like, pushing it in. He's like, oh. So I tell my parents I am withdrawing from USC, and I'm taking a leave of absence. They're like, what?

I'm like, I'll make a reality show. And they're like, oh my god. I'm like, don't worry. I can go back. I mean, at this point, they're like, I'm glad he's back from Brazil.

You know? So, we I started just filming everything in the house, but his stepdad is a superstar mega 6. And in real life, he is literally telling me, stop fucking filming me. Get the fuck out of my house. And you know, at the time, Paris and and, Nicole were on Fox.

Yeah. So I was saying, this is Fox, Dave. You know, I didn't appreciate who he was. Brody said that he makes elevator music. Like, that was my

This is David Foster.

Like, so that's my percent. And I'm like, oh.

You make elevator music? Fuck off.

Yeah. Like, that was the energy. Like, Brody's like, says you make elevator music. So I had no, like, oh, it's Dave Fudd. I'm like, in his face.

He's swearing at us. You know, he's like, get the fuck out of my house. And my head was like, we have a bigger man It's okay. We have a bigger mansion. There's more dogs here.

They have like 10 dogs shitting everywhere. And he was a superstar. And then we have Brody's mom, Linda Thompson, who at 1 time Elvis was trying to marry, dated Elvis for 5 years. Linda's incredible TV legend. So she's playing all into it and letting us, like, let the boys do the boys.

You know? So and I'm living a life too. I'm never stopping filming because they got the chef. I'm going in the fridge. I got a plate that says Dave.

I'm eating his food all day from the chef. And we edit right there just like, you know, a few minutes. On Sunday night, I get a call from this guy and he's like, Spencer. I'm like, who's this? And he's like, it's Peter.

I'm like, Peter who? And he's like, Peter Chernin. He's the chairman of News Corp that owns Fox. And he's like, you have a meeting tomorrow at 9 AM with Gail Berman. I'm like, cool.

Who's Gail Berman? He's like, Spencer. She's the president of Fox Television. She knows the deal. Just go to the meeting.

I'm like, okay. And he hangs up. I'm like, okay. So I called Dave Foster to like talk shit. I'm like, going to Fox, Fosmeck.

Whizzaro. You know, talk all the smack. This is where he murked me out because he didn't have like now he's like, oh, this is real. So he didn't have faith in me like I don't think he knew what level I I'd already got it done. Yeah.

So he calls his boy because David's Canadian. He calls his homie from Canada that, like, they tried to do some projects together in the past. And he's like, you gotta go to this meeting. So I pull up, like, out of a movie, and I get to the Fox lot right there. Every time I drive by it now, I still am like, god, what a memory that you just came and make up.

And I pull up my Spencer Pratt for Gail Burman. And they're like, oh, sorry. Somebody already used your drive on. I'm like, what does that mean? They're like, you're gonna have to park on the street.

And like I'm like, wait, what? So now I'm like parking down Pico, like, running. And I'm in my, like, dumb purple shirt that, you know, that I thought was like a fancy shirt, you know, that I like, I didn't have, like, I didn't, like, have designer clothes or whatever. So I had, like, this stupid purple shirt on. Somehow, later in that day, Peter Chernin sees me.

He's there and he's like, don't you ever wear that dumbass shirt ever. And I'm like, oh, okay. But so I go into the meeting and I get in the elevator, and this guy in his full suit is smoking a cigar. And and we're going up in the elevator, and he's big old guy, and he's like, you know, I'm like, who's this guy and these other guys in suits? And so I they're like walking with me, and then we're all walking.

I'm like, no. They're all going in the same place as me. So Gail offers us in that meeting $3,700,000 I'm like, yeah, deal. Deal. Deal.

Fucking deal. And they're like, no, we're, like, we're gonna go see some, we're going to ABC. I'm like, who the fuck are they? Like, no deal. And so they jacked me.

And they, like, if I hadn't called David, I would have so much more creative control. But I was 20.

Right.

And so then I find out, like, you know, I get a lawyer and they're like, yeah. They're saying you're not the executive producer. I'm like I'm like, that sounds like I sounds like I am that. And they're like, yeah, they're saying you're not. So I call PJ.

I'm like, they're saying I'm not. And he's like, makes a call and then now I'm executive producer. I was the youngest executive producer of a network television show to this day in history. And, they try to fight that. And so then they make the show.

And at this point, on my first day of filming a Fox show, keep in mind, this is when Fox was peak Fox. We are getting launched with the reboot of Family Guy on Sunday nights before The Simpsons. Our sponsor is Coca Cola, McDonald's that we're like getting ads, and they're like, I am gonna be a millionaire, like, in a month. I have my walkie talkie that says executive producer day 1. I'm behind camera.

They're filming, and then everyone's like, Spencer, you need to go in and, like, do what you're doing. Because in and out, everyone's always talking shit to me Right. Like, in their sizzle and everything because I'm like the, like, crutch, the the bad like, the guy that lives in the guest house energy, The Kato Kaelin vibe. Right? So I'm like, no.

I got my walkie talkie. Like, you'll get to keep your walkie talkie. I'm like, okay. So I didn't realize I like it was like the matrix pill. Like, I that was when I sabotaged my entire life of being taken seriously.

Crossing in front of that camera, I was like, oh, yeah. I get my walkie talkie still. I got my title, but Yeah. I didn't get that was the end of, like, anyone ever being, like, respecting you in this business.

But which is crazy to hear too for you, Spencer, because by you, they clearly were like, wait. We're filming this shit and we're not getting the same thing that Spencer came with his DVD because it was you. Brody was so comfortable with you being like, Spencer, get the fuck out of my face. And, like, David Foster's, like, Spencer. Like, everyone knew you so they were giving you that content.

They're not gonna do it as easily in front of these, like, random, like, guys with cameras. So they needed you to get back in there, but that sucks that then your credit basically got taken as in terms of a producer. So

I look still this

whole time not getting that

nobody else was gonna think this. Well, looked at myself as a on camera producer. I was just God. Filming doing the story bites, da da da da da. So that night, Linda has a talk with us, our 1st night of filming.

And she's like, I caught David cheating on me in the studio. And I'm I'm like, well, so, you know, like, what are we doing here?

Right.

And so, like, we pretty much just, like, beg her to, like, just pause this. You know? And she's, like, get I now appreciate it more, but at the time, like, I was so deep and, like, this is our like like, who cares? Like, let's roll. Like, you let's launch, like and so she gangster it up and was like, I'll do and I didn't really understand what she meant.

Like, I'll do the filming, but I didn't get so then let's fast forward. The night the show premieres, she's like, I informed Fox that I'm filing for divorce tomorrow morning. And I'm like, what? What do you know? You know, nowadays, that rating's up.

People love that dark thing. This is a family friendly Sunday. I get my 3rd call from the chairman of News Corp. He's like, Spencer, what the f? We bought a family friendly show for Sunday nights.

I'm pulling the plug. After next week's episode, it's done. So we get the 1 you know, rated well for the summer. We get 1 more, And I just lot and I spent all my money, then my first check on my BMW that now I, like, didn't have money for gas, you know, figuratively speaking. Like Of course.

Because I was like, game on. You know, we were gonna be so rich.

Damn. That's wild that, like, day 1 of filming. She, like

Oh, so that just set

caught him cheating. And you're like, wait. No. We need, 1, this house to film it. Everything.

2, we need the family together. And then the rest of the season, they just, like, you try she tried to fake it for you.

Yeah. She did.

She's

a she's a real good actor and Damn. You know? So I get that call. I'm like, oh my god. I have to go back to college?

You know, like so now I'm back in college.

Brody Jenner had step siblings at the time. When do you remember meeting Kim Kardashian for the first time, and what was she like back then?

Alright. So I just shout out Esquire Magazine for profiling me and the big I thought this was gonna be, like, positive. But since I said, I should be Kim Kardashian, people, like, got all weirded out about that, but it's I feel that. You know? So I'm just gonna defend myself.

So now we're at the 1st night of the Princess of Malibu, our Fox show. I didn't even know he had stepsisters. I wasn't even aware. Maybe I met them that night, like, totally irrelevant. Week later, you know, this has been denied, but Rhodey is the witness.

And I don't know if he'll, maybe he'll say it, but it's true. We get a call from Kris Jenner, who I don't know, and he puts her on speaker. And she's like, we should do what you're doing in Malibu with our family in the valley with your dad, Brody. And and he hangs up and I'm like, the valley. You know, because, like, when I grew up, like, you did not this isn't me saying this.

This is what I grew up knowing. Yeah. Yeah. There was nobody filming anything in the valley except pornos. You know, like that was what the I had you know, that's where they shot.

Yeah. People used to shit on the valley. It was Yeah.

Now it's for Give me 1 of those $80,000,000 valley houses, I guess. It's still unique, good AC. I don't know, you know. But so we laughed. And I've thought about it a 1000000 times.

Was that the call that, like, sabotaged my whole life that I didn't take? But then I really thought about it a 1000000 times. They went to then to Ryan Seacrest who had a first look deal with E. They had to make a show per his contract. And they went to him.

And he had the power of not only E News, KISS FM was popping. He just got American Idol. Like, that's a solid I don't think if Brody and I had gone with cameras, shot the Kardashians, it would have been with the Kardashians. Like, everything came perfect for what their magical portal happened. So I've thought about it a trillion times.

But I've met her for real for real in the club. I remember area, you know, she was wearing like a Herve Ledger silver purplish dress, you know. And she Kim looked like a superstar and was famous. She deserves day 1 jump. She was famous at this point energetically.

She knew who she was gonna be. So she had that aura. And, like, you know, I was joking with Kim and, you know, we're all having fun. She was totally cool, but that I remember meeting him and, like, her at the club and, like, you know. Then she later filmed on the hills and organized Heidi's Closet, and they didn't use the footage.

And I once said this in an interview, and her publicist is like, this is absolute lie. And then MTV pulled out the clip. Thank 1 time they ever backed me with receipts and, like, showed unedited Kim. Like, every now and then somebody tags me in a tweet of her, like, tweeting at me. Like, you be Heidi and Reggie need to go on a double date.

And I'm like, how was I so popping in my head that I'm not, like, following through with this double I did follow through when Miley Cyrus tweeted us, and we went and double dated with her in that. So I wasn't too insane. But if I had done everything different and if I was, like, super like, for how thirsty I am, like, what I should've done is been friends with everybody. That's what Kim is was so good at. And I'm not that type of person.

Like, I don't wanna go have fake lunches and fake drinks. And what if I played the game like a pro? I would have gone to drinks all the time with people that hated me, and I hated them back. And we'd just all be fake, but it's like, that's the problem with being a real person Yeah. Which is good for reality TV, but, like, not for networking and building these.

Because people will message me like, oh, we should do this and you can reach out to, like, your celebrity friend. Like, my what friends? Like, I got my friends from preschool and they don't even want me to name drop that I know them. You know? So

No. I I appreciate that because I think that a lot of people don't know about the princess of Malibu. Like, if you're on TikTok, sorry, but people may not know about it. And I think that it was interesting when you look back at your history that you started this, like, basically little reality show following Brody around, and Kim is just, like, there in a scene. And you're like, woah.

Like, this was the beginning. And then I I believe you that Chris called because it's like you guys were doing it before the Kardashians started it.

No. And, at the time, Bruce, not was it Yes. Caitlyn. So at the time, Bruce was filming for Prince's. So Chris is they didn't use any of the footage, but, like, he would come film Right.

And he'd be on it. So he's going back home

Yeah. We're filming.

And tell you, like, this is crazy, da da da da da. Right. And, you know, at the same time, the Simple Life's popping. So Kim's knowing about reality TV through, through Paris.

Yeah. That's when reality TV really started to pop off was, like, slowly, like, the Simple Life. And then, obviously, though, the biggest, I think, was when The Hills

popped off. And that was when it was like, holy shit. This is reality TV.

And because That's How I Got TO The Hills. Yeah.

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Go back to college.

So I go back to college. And then 1 day, I'm back from class, whatever. And my mom's best friend, Lucy, they're in there watching this show. And my mom's friend, Lucy, like, you should date this girl. She's so cute.

I'm like, what is this? And they're they're watching in. She's like, date this girl. She's so cute. And it's Heidi.

I'm like, what is this show? Like, how is this even a show? This is season 1. I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I ever seen in my life.

Right.

And I'm like, this on TV? Like, yeah. It's so cute. And I see 1 of the names of the executive producers was a guy that Brody and I literally hired. Like, we had a meeting.

We hired so I have his cell phone number. I call him. I'm like, motherfucker, you have a new show and you didn't put Brody and I? He's like, Spencer, no. It's a set cast of this girl from Laguna Beach.

She like, it's not like that. I'm like, oh, no. It's like that. We'll see you in the club. Like, I don't think so.

That's our show. You got, like, Hollywood. Like, this 1, Brody was, like, running the clubs. And like, so all due respect, no girl from Laguna Beach is doing a Hollywood show. I'm like, they have a Hollywood show?

And you're so

They're not including us? Like yeah.

So we're out. It's, club was called Privilege. Justin Timberlake was just popping with Sexy Can I, I think? I remember just, like, hitting so hard in the in the freaking club. And so this is when I was very into dancing.

You know? This was people danced back then. People weren't too cool to dance. We wanted to stand around. Like, it was like Yeah.

Dancing time. So I was dancing. And then Kristen was at the bar with Heidi. And Heidi just done season 1. I didn't know what even that meant.

Nobody the hills was not popping. So Heidi and I clear the dance floor. We're having a great time dancing, hit it off. We all drive back to Brody's house in Malibu. So she ends up spending the night.

We, you know, she says it's love at first sight. I guess now in retrospect, it was. But, you know, I had, you know, player, ego, clout, fame, vibe. So I was like, and then she tell her, no. We're seeing each other.

But she is seeing, you know, she's not exclusive either to me. When I met Heidi, she was writing a book, had chapters, how to outplay the player. She had game galore. She was not this, like, innocent victim like, oh my god. Spencer's talking to those playmates.

Like, she was talking to old dude over here and old dude here. Like, she had 2 like, she had a a list athlete and a a list actor she was dating when I was supposedly looking like the bad guy. So if they had showed real Heidi and not this, like, bootleg, you know, just making girls look like this, like like that was where you got to see, like like,

an

awesome girl that I would fall in love with, who, like, show a girl a game that Totally. Like you

were attracted to.

Yeah. Like, this is why I liked her. She, like, she was no victim. I wasn't playing her. It was like

Yeah.

Battle. We were at like a master chess dating. And so that's Can

you tell us who she was dating?

Yeah. She was dating Chase Crawford, who was like the it, like, hot guy, you know, peak, you know

Gossip Girl.

Yeah. Like, couldn't be cooler. So she wasn't like, oh, poor Spencer. Like Right. It was not

that energy. I love hearing you say that though because I always felt that vibe from Heidi, but they always cast her as this, like, damsel in distress. Like, Jordan's being that mean to me, and then you she meets you, and it's like Spencer's being mean to me. I'm like, that's not the vibe I get from

Heidi.

So the problem with Heidi and I, we love making TV shows and doing what producers are saying. Here's the problem with The Hills. All male producers, East Coast, WASPI freaking dudes that they're now in charge of representing young women in Hollywood. And they're putting their toxic male weird narrative spins that they, that's not facts and it's not real life. Because I don't even think any of these guys date.

You know, like, they don't know. Maybe they saw it in a movie

or something. Can't fathom a woman, like, spitting game on a guy and, like, change your number. Like, fuck you.

Way better show too. It's like real Heidi was I always say this. People to this day, like, oh, how are you still it's like, because you don't know real Heidi. Like, you guys have all Yeah. Like, it's like

It's you on your toes.

Yeah. Like, I'm they're not showing me begging her to be boyfriend girlfriend. You know? Like, I don't want that title. Like Right.

You know, like

She was more Yeah. So Yeah.

She's a game. She was a gangster. Like, you know?

So So now knowing that's actually a really great story that it goes all the way back to your mom looking at the TV and being like, oh, you should date this girl. And then you guys actually meet and you immediately have a vibe. What was your first impression of Lauren Conrad when you met her?

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Look at me. Just going for a

walk, clearing my mind, not thinking about work, a moment away from it all. Did I reply all? I should check, really. No. I'm here, not checking work.

But what if Frank's emails?

That dog looks like him. That's a sign. I'm getting fired.

Get it together. We're having a break. Attaboy. Have a break.

Have a Kit Kat.

What was your first impression of Lauren Conrad when you met her?

Alright. So let's do a disclaimer here for, you know, LLC stans because they always like, oh my god. He still has to talk about LC. It's like, no. No.

I was connected to a a television franchise. And this is a costar that is part of my fame, people. I would love to have never talked to her for about the rest of my life. But I am a great guest and I am honest and truthful. So there you go.

So that's for the comment section. So, I I mean, nice nice girl. Like, I we we it was all good to the point where I talked Brody in to breaking up in Nicole Richie to fake double date with LC. So like Right. That's the level of how I felt about it.

Like, let me help make your life better Right. By bringing the best looking guy in Hollywood right now, who all the girls wanna date. I'll get him to break up with his celebrity, you know, superstar girlfriend. I will get him to come on to your show. Pretend to be your, you know, interest Yeah.

To just everyone wins. You know. So, like, I was a I'm a teammate. I come from being on a team sport. I didn't play tennis.

I didn't play golf. Like, the team wins. That's how I've always thought. So I was like, let's all win. We'll double gate.

And I was already in the, you know, game from, like, working with the paparazzi for Princess of Malibu and setting up our shoots. And so, like, I was like, you know, our first double date, I had us coming out of the Grove. You know, all due respect to Elsie, she'd never been in a tabloid until I unlocked that for her and gave her the, you know, as a teammate. Not, you know, I'm not on credit. I I wanted us all to win.

So I had our paparazzi. This is pre the entire world now does this. This was this was vintage genius, where you work with them instead of like hiding from them. Because this 1, tabloids sold like albums. Like, you could Drake, you know, 1 week, 3,000,000 sales on us.

We like, this was superpowers that I knew I understood. And I just watched the season 2 episode. LC knew because if you look at her on the couch, she has every tabloid in her lap. That's what she's reading. So don't be mad at me girl.

So we come out of our double date, and I'm like, make sure you guys look to the left. You know, this is off camera. Just I'm really trying to like get us all to hang out on friends because now Heidi and I are seeing each other, not boyfriend girlfriend. And she's like, what I'm like, it's our camera. She's like, you called the paparazzi?

I'm like, yeah. To get you in a so that was I was like, oh, you're not all there. You know, like, don't have a full deck running here as you're trying to be on your 2nd television show. Like, it's not like I'm all for people who don't wanna be famous, but like you're on a second show. Like, you spun off.

Like, I get like it fell into your lap in high school and it came to you and you auditioned. But now you've spun off. You've you are choosing the path of fame. So now I'm like, so she, from the jump, kinda was weirded out. Like, oh, Spencer's like, that's why she'll say things like, I don't trust him.

It's like, you didn't understand. Like, I was ahead of this game. Like Yeah. I already saw how this worked on a way bigger scale because I'm not from Laguna Beach, you know. I I'm from here.

And watching Paris, watching now Nicole. Nicole's an actual, you know, we ended up having a falling out or whatever. Miss I was misquoted, I think. Well, you can but she's a genius. So, like, she's a famed genius.

So I studied under, you know Yeah. I'll call her a mentor in the in the fame game. So I she just

The whole right

team. Oh, she's as she

She knows.

She knows the game. That's why Paris called her smartest friend to be her teammate. She didn't call Kim. Yeah. You know, like, hey, you wanna you know.

But so, back to, like, you know, everything. We're best friends. She's like, you wanna meet my dad? But eventually, the Brodie couldn't play pretend anymore. Yeah.

I wasn't saying fake date, LC. That wasn't the initiative. Like I was like, this would be great. Like, Heidi's cool. They're roommates.

Like I was hoping it worked out. It didn't work out from night 1. You know? Yeah. So once she was on to that, she wanted her amazing wing men, which I under wing woman, totally get Heidi to not be with me.

So her selfish motivations, she can put it on all these reasons of like, oh, I don't trust him or look at she knew Heidi. Like, she knew Heidi's game. She knew about this and we know her. These girls were not victims. Yeah.

They had their own television show. They were in the right in the heart of Hollywood. They're going out every night getting tables. These aren't these like pilgrims that like, we're like, oh, these poor little innocent. Right.

You know. They knew what they're doing. Yeah. These girls are savvy. And I didn't get raised on being on television while I was 16, 17.

Like, you're a veteran at this point. Like, yeah, I understood the back side of, like, tabloids and media. But when it came to making a TV show and, like, merking out people and, like Yeah. You know, what comments say this, like, this is a is a black belt level.

Yeah. With regard to your relationship with Heidi, how did you guys separate reality from reality TV to keep your relationship healthy?

Thank God the show was so fake that it was, you know, every time now and then, Heidi would get a little too drunk. Like like 1 time in area, like, she knew. I told her, like, we're gonna call these playmates. I'm gonna bring these girls. And she knew.

She's like, I'll be there. And then drunk Heidi is like, asshole. And like, you know, like and she really got all up in her feelings, you know, as, you know, because she's like, I don't even want the you know, but that's the problem when you play reality. Like, there's times where, you know It affects you. It affects you in real life.

So thankfully, it was so fake that all the fighting and everything was so, like, planned and rehearsed and scripted that it didn't. And then the other thing is we lived in my parents' house in the Palisades, like, in my high school room. Like, so we leave Hollywood and just go have our simple, you know, life and, you know, we weren't up in the scene, like, in the look. So, like, we never lived in that apartment that we filmed in or that house we filmed in. So I imagine it would have been harder if we were immersed in that world and these were our real friends and our real relationship.

But

You guys really took a turn to be, like, the most hated couple in the world and Heidi got all the surgery. Did you ever try to convince Heidi not to get surgery?

No. 1 thing I never try to do ever with Heidi and what people don't understand is like, Heidi's the boss. Like, I work for Heidi to this day. Like, that's this whole, like, you know, like, that's people who really know the inner workings of our relationship, like like, excuse my French. Like, I'm the pussy whip.

Like, you know, like, it's not like, oh, Heidi, I think you should do this. Like, Heidi came from a little town in Crested Butte with dreams of being a star. Like, she Yeah. Like, so, no. I never told Heidi what to do because I've just I'm I was I was filming her.

She's like, put the camera on me, cameraman. Like, you know, if you watch the footage, like, I'm just her cameraman. I told her yesterday. I'm like, I'm literally your cameraman. So Yeah.

Also, let's rewind the surgery because it's in tears. First time she even got the idea of getting surgery was Us Weekly approached her and was like, hey. We have this top plastic surgeon. It wasn't even in her head, you know, that wants to do you know, we'll give you a nose job and implants. And Heidi's like and they're like, this would cost 50,000, whatever.

And Heidi's a hustler. And she's like, 50,000 for free? And this US Weekly is coming to me. Right. I'm not gonna say his name.

Ken came to her. And so, you know Fuck you, Ken. You know. And she had grown up getting made fun of about her nose her whole life. You look, this was early day comment section.

Every single comment, I'm always like, don't read that. I was just saying she has a Jay Leno chin. And so she's now in her head of all these things that's early, you know, comment section. So that she has this meeting with this top, you know, rest in peace, doctor Frank Rennie's dead. But she has a meeting with him and he she's showing he's showing her all the a list superstars.

All the things he's done. But you know, sign top secret. They're not telling Yeah. Anyone. Just she's realizing this is the game.

So she does the nose job, boobs. It's not the end of the world. People don't, you know, peep she didn't have to tell the truth also. Like Yeah. This time, I'm not gonna say other big pop people were literally without a doubt got nose jobs.

Got it. Like, that was standard operating procedure. But ideas is just honest like, I'm gonna tell people this is what I did, which you know, I'm like, I don't care whatever. Like, keep in mind, I've already dated Heidi for so long, in love, already felt like, this isn't like, oh, this is what you need to do now for us to be like, we're already battling the world. Like, this isn't gonna change our relationships.

I'm like, I don't win win. I I don't care either way. Whatever. Do what you wanna do to your body. I'm scared.

And I couldn't even I can't even get shot. It's like so it's way past my world of like knives and, you know. So all good. The follow-up, the 1 that people all freaked out on, I'll never forget. I even have it on video.

As she's going in, because she when she was doing her Miss Universe, she got elbowed by 1 of the backup dancers and they hit her nose and so she like like it's like denim. They're gonna like pop it out. Whatever. So she goes to have like that done. That morning, he's like, while you're under, we, you know, we could just little and I hear the word minor so many times.

It's like, it's so early in the morning when you drop these people off for surgery. It's like, I'm not even thinking. I hear minor. Sorry. Just like, I don't I hear she she already got lip injections.

That seemed minor. Like, oh, minor. And you hear the word injectable and this. It's everything's minor. And he just had this blue pen and he's just like, my there's a lot of blue.

Neither of us are thinking like, oh my god. He's like, this is minor is the word we heard a 1000000 times. Cut to like the most traumatic. So no. It was not like a a positive time.

That's also just so crazy to hear you talk about it too because of like how manipulative and really scary. Like when you're young, you don't understand and these doctors should do a better job of explaining. Like the fact that they said minor to you and you're like, it was in the morning. Also the fact that you're like, it was the day of. And they're like, we can just do this.

Like we'll scoop out your back. We'll pin back your ears.

We'll And he's saying the price of each thing. And like back to Heidi, who's like a banker. He's like, this is a 25 I mean, it was like a quarter $1,000,000 when he like he's like in all cross. All this was like out of like a movie where he like you're like shopping for clothes and they add it all up and he's like, void, $0. So it's like in her head, miss business.

It's like a business thing.

They're like, oh my god. It's like

a bargain.

He's giving me a quarter million to like make and this what oh, I'm not gonna name stars. But this is what all they do, but they spread it out. Like everything she did is like standard a list.

Totally.

I'm not naming the women, but

But it's obvious.

This is standard a list women, but once a year, you know, you don't knock it all out. Right. You don't drop it off at the body shop.

What do you miss about being 1 of the most famous couples in the world at the time?

Oh, just the money. Like, yeah. Like, I would if you ask me to never be famous or just be rich, I would I thought being famous was the easy way to get rich. Like, if I put the amount of energy as I put into being famous as just like doing like a normal rich person job, like a banker, Like, I would be rich. So, yeah.

Like, how the he, like, getting this paid by Coca Cola to hold a coke killer. Like, here's $10,000. Like, like, what? Yeah. You know, so, like, that level of, like, nobody would like, why do you wanna be famous?

Like, because that it's so hard, but it's so easy when you're, like, in the when you're getting the checks. Like, at 1 time, we were making a $1,000,000 a year selling our paparazzi photos. Like, going and looking cheesy, you you know, like, dressing up in dumb little, like, Easter bunny. Like, it so that part is hands down.

The, you know That

makes sense.

So

People hated you more than people who murdered people. You were more hated than OJ Simpson at 1 point.

Hey, Casey Anthony.

Yep. How did that make you feel at the time?

Well, at the time, it was a victory because David Foster had put me into the game by he knew Simon Cowell. I didn't watch American Idol, and he was like, Spencer, once the Fox started going, he's like, you need to be the young Simon Cowell. And I was like, who? Like and he's like, the like the hated guy, the villain, the like, you know. I was like, gotcha.

Like, sounds sounds easy, coach. Put me in. So I there was no social media. I was so naive to think, and I thought everybody knew Hollywood was just lights, camera, action, fake as could be. I didn't understand middle America.

This was Bible, you know, like, this was, you know, the Holy Spirit over here. And I'm over here just trying to get ratings, bonuses. Like, if we ever got to 5,000,000, I got a $1,000,000 check just that day. So no matter what I'm reading, I'm over here like chasing a $1,000,000 1, like we're like at 4.24. I'm like, Oh, what could I do to get to that $1,000,000 to do what I'm already doing that night?

So my mindset at that 1 at 1 time I had like hatespenserpratt.com where like you could go and like comment. Like, I hate like, I thought it was so fun and, like, ridiculous until, you know, I started driving around and, like, everyone was just flicking me off out windows. I was like, oh my god. Like, who's watching this show? Like, chill.

Like, I thought this was like a fun, like, party show. Like, why you guys isn't the news on? Like, aren't we in Iraq? Like, isn't there a war? Like, I just never understood because I came from, like, play pretend with the princes and everything.

And I just thought, you know so no.

You understood what you were doing. And then when people didn't and they thought it was real, you were like, wait, guys.

Yeah. And I

Simon Cowell.

Yeah. Like, no. No. And, like, Brody will say to anybody else, like, Spencer planned every single he's a witness to, like, the pre Yeah. That is the day.

Blueprint. Like, I executed it too well, you know. And here's how they got me. And this is how the predatory producer, you know, and me being naive and Heidi just hit me with this, and I was like, oh my god. I'm so triggered by that quote.

They were always saying, we're gonna, this is your redemption arc. We're gonna redeem. So I'm always chasing, like, you do this and then we're gonna so I'm like, I like this. It's like, I should have been like watch Batman. I'm like, there's no way the Joker is getting redeemed, like, part 3, you know, like like, I just I just like, oh, yeah.

That sounds great. You're gonna redeem me. Yeah. What season 4? Like, whoo.

So like, I I fell for that just con, which, you know, that's the problem when you're 23 and you do think you're smarter than everybody, which I obviously was not. Then I just got, you know, I thought I was in with everybody and I'm working with this producer that I already made this show with. But it's like, oh, no. They were sailing me off the waterfall like Niagara. And you know, I didn't care because they're also blood money paying, you know.

We're the highest paid people on television at this time. So I'm I'm going I had a $1,000,000 suit collection. I didn't even wear suits. And then I gave them all to my friend who was a real estate agent. Shout out, Mikey P.

And, you know, so like like because I was like, what do you do with all this money? You buy suits. I is it Richie

over there? Do you know?

No. Oh, no. No. Buy gold. That's what I would say.

That's the 1 thing I did. I was smart at 1 time. I bought, like, all this gold. So I carried a backpack around with, like, half a 1000000 gold coins just like because you can't spend gold. You know, like it takes

It would keep you in line. What about a business manager? We

had a problem with business managers. Let me tell you. They take your money? Not only do they take they take 5% of all the money you spend because they have to, like, do the math for it. Got it.

Oh, so be careful with a business manager because they love you spending money. That's their favorite.

Old was your friend. You're like, I can't spend this.

Yeah. I should have bought more of it.

Right. Right. Right. Okay. Spencer, you created the concept.

I am now convinced. I look back and I'm like, there was Simple Life. There was like, newlyweds with Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey. Like, early, early days. But you created the reality show villain.

Oh, I'll take that 1000%.

Right?

My military. Give me my 1 credit. Yeah. I'm gonna add that to my Wikipedia.

The originator of the reality star

And it was fun until you realize, like, there's no getting out. So as I look back, they were frankenbiting is which I learned later is where they're just taking audio and putting it there, and putting you at an event you're not at, saying you did this. Like I was just watching this episode where Lauren comes in like that Heidi stood her up and there's a note from Heidi. Anyone that knows Heidi, her handwriting looks like Egyptian hieroglyphs. Like, she doesn't know what she's writing.

I don't know if she can even write. Like and so this cute little note like, sorry Lauren l c e. Like, I can't hang out, like went to the movies to censor love you, like perfect calligraphy, like Right. Heidi never wrote that note. They never told her she was standing up.

Elsie, it's like these simple things like, murk you out and Lauren's playing her long. She knows Heidi didn't write that note and coming in like, Heidi, Heidi, knowing, like, you were just in your apartment. They just mic'd you up, like, do like, good for you. Like It's

all fake.

Like, freaking Blake Lively over there.

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So let me explain to you what I'm thinking. I've sat down with reality people now and sitting down with you, who was like the originator of the villain, I want to expose how easily the edit process is that reality TV uses to make something look like a conversation happened and it really was a complete different conversation that happened. Do you know what I mean? So who is someone that you really dislike? Like, someone that pisses you off and can get you, like, riled up.

You can be Adam DeVillo.

Okay. I'm Adam DeVillo. K? And I'm going to we're we're in a fight. We are in a fight right now.

I'm Adam. You're Spencer. And I'm talking so much shit to you. This is what's going to happen is, the point is, is I'm going to be it's like I'm a producer being like, you're pissed at Adam. What would you say to Adam?

And it's like, fuck you. And then you walk out of the interview. What I'm going to do is, at the beginning of this episode, it's gonna be a cold open, and I'm gonna dub in a different question of me being like, Spencer, you're irrelevant. How do you feel? And you're gonna be looking at me when really everyone right now will see what that original thing was.

I'm talking about Adam DeVillo, but we're gonna cut it and make it look like you were shitting on me, and you walk out of the caller daddy interview.

Oh my gosh.

You ready?

It's so scary. Well, give me a few minutes.

I I don't know. To tell you how I'm envisioning it. I mean No.

I see the vision, but I'm just, like, trying to think about what I would actually say that could come off believable.

Like, fuck you?

You're a fucking predatory person. Oh, that's pretty good.

Oh my god. That's better than anything we had. That's way stronger than a fuck you. Do you have a notes app of what you want to say to have to Villo?

Yeah. I do. Fuck you. Face this shit. You need to drink some of your Okay.

Your fly.

We need well, we're gonna need to get we can do it twice. Like, we just wanna get the best. And, again, what is happening right here is gonna go in the episode, just so you know. You're not getting fucked over. Like, we're gonna show

this promo. As long as this goes on Spotify

Yes. Which

I don't care what you show.

Power of edit, baby. Uh-huh. I liked that first

Yes. But it it would it's not dramatic enough.

Right.

Because, I mean, you are a predatory person.

I can't even take it seriously. Okay. Here we go. I think it would be dramatic if you get up and walk out.

I'm gonna. Definitely. I'm just Okay.

Okay. You're practicing. You're practicing.

Oh, yeah? Fuck you. Fuck this interview. Stupid podcast. Fuck this shit's over in here.

What the fuck?

That was good. Spencer.

The low key, man. Spencer.

Dude, that was good. That was good.

He's asking me more low key, and there's

I agree. I agree. No. I think that was pretty good because you said fuck you, fuck this. I'm gonna do 1 more and I'm gonna keep all this in of, like, guys, this is a this is I'm, like, poking him.

I'm Adam DeVoe. I'm, like, you are

So that's the thing. You wouldn't even that's what's so crazy about reality TV. Adam DeVoe wouldn't be here. They send these they call like, for The Hills, it was called the she was called the collector. That's how shady this shit is.

To collect the fucking shit.

And she would just get shit out of you? No.

She would come and like she fake jerked off and busted a nut on my face to pump, like, to like and it worked, and I, like, went nuts.

Okay. So let's, like, channel that annoyance.

Who let me call it. Who do I dislike? Hi, honey.

Who do I me.

Who do I really dislike that I could channel just, like lots of anger for a fake scene here. Feel like I don't talk to enough people to hate anybody anymore. I saw who ate your card. Oh, that oh, thank you, honey. I knew you would know.

Love you, honey. Bye.

Love you. Love you, guys. Love you, guys. Love you. I'm so excited to be included.

Thank you. You're welcome. Here, I'll put you on the mic. There you go. You're good.

Here you go. Love you.

I'm good.

Shout out.

Shout out.

Proud daddy.com. Proud daddy.com. Love you. Lucky night. Stream superficial.

Okay. Can I get

your car?

Oh, lots of people did, but 1 1 I have to see.

Pretend I'm him. Hi. You're a fucking loser.

Yeah. This is the biggest fucking waste of time. I can't even believe Spotify gave you a fucking show. I bet this doesn't even last another fucking year. Why don't you just delete this whole fucking episode?

Good luck with your little imaginary boyfriend. You never show on fucking IG strength. Fuck you, Alex. Fucking Cooper.

Spencer. Spencer. Meryl Streep. No. That was good.

What I've learned is, like, the more exaggerated, the faker it looks now because now everyone is so exaggerated on all these shows. So you gotta, like Well,

in post edit and that's the beauty, again, I'll share with everyone watching is, like, we'll look back and see which 1 looks more real. Maybe the first 1 looks more real because it was less try hard.

Even, you know, the holy spirit. I may give you a third just out of nowhere. So, you know, 3rd you know, you have to do this 12 times. That's like that video I sent you.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And I rewatched it, like, this supposedly where I'm bullying Heidi into, like, moving in with me to, like, I would never move into Carson Avenue. Like, I'm not bullying anyone to, like, live across from fucking Boa or Boca. What it's I don't even Yeah. Yeah. Like a liquor store.

I so, no. I was not but this big scene, this was when it was a wrap for me Right. Was when I she's like, I don't think I wanna move in with you, like, doing her Meryl Streep level. And I'm like, then get my answers. Get out of my car.

We did that at least 12 times. They're like floor the car more, and they're shooting the exhaust pipes. She gets in the car right after we go to Don Antonio's. Like, that's just a night, but like, boom. And here's how I'm even crazier.

The song that they, like, put to it, like, Apologize. Yeah. I gave them the 1 Republic song. It was like, this would be so good because Heidi was like in talks to do a song with Ryan Tedder, and he, like, played me that. I'm, like, I'll get this on the hills.

So then I even gave them the murder song.

As we're kind of

We're not wrapping up. No. We're not. Oh my god.

No. No. No. We're not. You're, like, I'm not leaving.

Thank you for playing along. That was a great promo. Is there a specific manufactured storyline you regret saying yes to?

Yeah. The sex tape. I didn't think people like, big I thought it was, like, clout too. Like Right. Kim just made so much off of hers.

It wasn't a negative. There were not no tape even ended up coming out. So, like, I thought that that's why I played along, called a fake producer. That wasn't on the phone with LC. It was me pretending to apologize something I didn't do to a producer.

Like, yeah.

To your knowledge, did Adam DeVillo ever abuse his power when producing the show and in what ways?

You know, here's what's so funny. Like, I was ready to go all in on Adam DeVille, but I'm a mercenary. If they call me right now to be on Selling Sunset and I hate him more than anyone on Earth, I'd be like, what's my fee? You know, like, so you can't even ask somebody who's, like, a mercenary about people because, like, I should have known his last name is Devil with an o. Like, that's not a coincidence.

And think here's the other thing that I now have the benefit of perspective with. Yeah. Like, we've now been on 2 seasons of Celebrity Big Brother. We are locked up, you know, 50 plus days of producer. We did I'm a celebrity, get me out of here, marriage boot camp, wife swap, famous food.

Like, the list of shows of dealing with producers, not to mention all these pilots who shoot. And, like, there's nobody like that guy. So here's the problem with people like Adam and how they'll always win. Mhmm. They're male.

And he brings in his enablers, and they're all, like, guarded. You know, I'm not saying this is, like they will always win because there's then me, the mercenary. Because I know how this is a demonic demon. And I was like, put me on Netflix. So Right.

All these people around Christine, they're not gonna back her because they don't wanna rock the ship. They don't wanna Right. You know, they don't want selling sunset to end. So that's how Me Too and these people are enabled because the people around them are, like, ain't happening to me like you because I'm 1 of his, like I'm sure the way he treated Whitney and LC. God knows how they probably love him because when things did come out in Heidi's story or whatever, guess who's the first 1 to be like, he's the best guy ever.

Maybe to you, but that's not the truth. Like, that's your like, you can't defend, you know, so

Totally. And I think it's fucked up because, like you're saying, these men in these position of power insulate themselves with all these other men that are going to make him, like, almost impenetrable to any type of any type of getting in trouble. And however, what you're saying also is because you're the mercenary, it's fucked up. Like, we saw Christine Quinn was 1 of the first people, which she's fortunate, she's got a lot of fucking money. She's got her own money and she's got her husband that has a fuck ton of money.

And so when you're in a position where you need this person that's in a position of power and fucked up, but you need to make a living, you need money, you're kind of at the hands of their power. And so I hear what you're saying. You're like, I would take the Netflix show because that's what your career is, but you're not saying he's a good guy. I wanna because I've never talked about this to my listeners. So when Heidi was on caller daddy last year, she brought up an incident where the producer from The Hills was physical with her.

After filming that episode, the MTV rep that rep's Heidi called my team and said, you need to take that out of the episode or you can't air it. I don't even know if Heidi knows this.

She definitely does not.

Okay.

Shout out Joya and Jay and, who else? I love you guys.

I don't even know.

So we get this call.

So shady because it's like they protect the net. Like, I love MTV. Right. But it's, like, that's Adam. She didn't say MTV.

You can't like, that's the

So my team gets this call and daddy gang listening, like, you can go back. And that interview, I they said you have to take that part out or you can't air the episode. I thought it was coming from Heidi and I'm like, who am I to put someone's, like, abuse story out there if they don't want it out? So I took it out of the episode. Fast forward a few weeks ago, Christine Quinn sits down with me and she talks about how Adam DeVille is the new producer, who is the original producer of The Hills, and she mentions Heidi's name in the interview saying we both had really bad experiences with these producers.

Immediately, I message Heidi. I go right to Heidi because I'm like, I don't wanna put your name in the episode if you're not comfortable with it. I know Christine doesn't wanna speak for you. I want to make sure you're good with it. And Heidi was like, absolutely put it in there.

It's the truth. To which I then realized, oh, my God. Last year, I fully got played. I was, like, last year, that was not Heidi not wanting to put that in. But now that you're done with the hills, can you explain what the fuck happened with that whole situation?

Again, I wasn't there. I was never allowed to be that's why that's why these predator type people like that people that want the smoke, they won't have like, he I never interacted with Adam ever once he knew my level. You know, like, you don't play. Like, I don't play. So I never got to interact with Adam because it would've been on.

Damn. So I was banned from the shoot, the photo shoot that this happened. So what I did was send, shout out, Kevin Carlson, her bodyguard, to go in my place. Because I you know, I'm like, I'm not I'm not allowed to go to her photo shoot. So Yeah.

That's weird. Again, you would need Heidi here. But from my what I recall is she had 1 of those loose fitting, you know. I guess, there was also a comment about her new boobs, you know. Like, you know, because she just had nobody had seen it.

Whatever. And, she had 1 of those backs that, like, are open back where it's, like, pretty much, like, in the right angles, like butt cheek, you know, like, of a dress. And I guess he, like, put his hand, like, ass cheek grab and secured to the point where he, like, chopped her his hand off and was, like, checked him, you know. Shout out Kevin, gangster. But he was there.

This happened. So we had a witness. We, like, he was, you know

It makes me really sad for Heidi that it took years. Like, everyone is believing Christine Quinn right now.

Oh, literally, when this came out, I all again, I didn't watch Sling Sunset because I hate this person so much. I don't care how good the show is. Adam. Right? But when I saw this, I was like, this is an angel from heaven just came in, and then she's in this outfit.

I'm like, she is out of the this is the matrix. This is literally Trinity coming to, like and it took, what, 12 years? Like, you can go back on Google. And she was like, this is not appropriate. Like, you can't like, she fell to the point where she called me, and I was like, what the fuck?

So I called, and I left some psycho message. You know? Like, I'm I hope he still has it.

I hope

he still Here's how weird life is. And so when I went back to college to finally graduate in 2013, I'm in a Staples on Olympic. And I go because I drink lots of water and fluids. I go to go pee in the Staples. And, you know, I'm not a, like, a I like to go into the stalls and pee.

I feel more protected. You know? So I open the stall door. Guess whose face I look at?

Adam.

Adam DeVillo. I haven't seen this person since 2000 maybe the 1st night of Hills filming. I've never even seen him since then. Opening and he looks like I'm there to murder him, you know. Because this is like some random staples in the men's room, in the stall.

He's coming out, and he's like and it took me I didn't like process, like, who is like, why is this freaking out?

So out of context.

Yeah. Like, what is it? Like, what's happening? I just wanna pee. Like, you're blocking the urinal here, like, toilet, get out of the way.

And he's like, Spencer, what are you doing here? I'm like, Adam? Like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm going to the bathroom. I'm like, I'm like, I'm with, like, why are you in Staples?

I'm like, buying books for college. Why are you here? He's like, because I work down the street, and this is the better bathroom. I'm like, Like, so, you know, to this day, I think he doesn't believe I was buying staples. And it was like, I can touch you if I want.

I could get you anywhere type. Like like, just know anytime you're going to the bathroom, I could open the stall door and be there. Like, that's how I think God wanted me to have that last, like, don't ever feel too cozy on that toilet because that door could open and it could be me. So

Spencer Pratt.

You know, like, it was a weird moment. But it's like I didn't have it had been 3 years. I was back in college. I didn't I had been I'm now back in the game trying to be famous again. So, like, I'm mad again.

But then I didn't, like, really care, but he couldn't accept it. Like, and I was so chill. And I was like, oh, what are you up to? Like and he was like, what are you? And then Heidi comes like, why are you here?

She's like, I'm like it was just such

a good

He probably

couldn't he did not believe it could have been a coincidence. Yeah.

No way. He likes it.

Here to kill me.

Yeah. 1 Stalking 1000000 percent. Here's the weirdest part. So years before this, just to show you how demonic this project with The Hills was

Yeah.

We go out for a pitch with 1 of these evil producers. Because again, we're mercenaries. And he's like, hey, I wanna pitch you to Lifetime. We're like, okay. Like, his right hand guy.

So we go this pitch and we're sitting there and he's like, it's amazing. We can all tell him this Lifetime executive that we can all sit here. I mean, at 1 time, we were trying to steal Heidi's soul, and like Heidi just starts hysterically crying in real life because she's like so triggered by, like, knowing that, like, she felt that. And it's, like, the the pitch went so silent. It was, like, stealing her soul.

Like, what? We Adam DeVillo said that. His right

hand man.

His his

teammate. Literally said at 1 point, we were trying to steal Heidi's soul. Now look where we are.

Yeah. Like, and we can all be together and, like, pitch.

It's so

funny. And Heidi's like, that's why I felt that for so many years, you fucking psychos. Okay. What is the wildest thing you've done to make a headline? Tell us.

Oh, I mean, any headline you ever saw, I was behind in in so it's like I actually thanks to my mom. She's a a I have a the biggest thing you've ever seen in your life of every cover, tabloid, everything I've ever been in. And the other day, I pulled it out just to, like because I was gonna do TikToks on them. I was like, everyone was the most crazy stories. I'm like made that up.

Made that up. Made that up. 1 time we made our entire house look like it we were squatters. They're not squatters. Like like, what are those people that, like, fill up a house with stuff?

Oh, hoarders.

Hoarders. We fill it up with hoarders and, like, you know, like, just made it, like, piled up and, like, got a In Touch magazine cover. Like, Heidi and Spencer are in squalor In Touch cover. I think we got 25 k shot at Dan Wakeford.

What the fuck?

Yeah. Like, so I mean, like, that's like a petty 1. But like everything you could ever think of. We once did a deal for like a half a1000000 just for 4 covers of Us Weekly. There's no we didn't know what the covers were.

It's like, let's make stuff up, you know. So I'd have to go through. But like, the weirdest thing that I didn't have to do with that I saw a headline recently that Heidi called me, the the article said that Heidi called me, like, chicken legs or something. And Spencer was gonna get calf implants. So I was like, calf implants?

Like, even if I had I do have I don't have a big calf, but like, oh, I wouldn't I hate needle. But, like, that's the level. Cap. And I was like so I have so many of them.

That is

behind them all.

You know what? That's really cool that you have those, like, mementos.

I wanna frame them all. And Heidi's like, there's they're not going on the wall. I'm like, this is art, honey. This is art.

We put them next to our portraits in our homes of ourselves.

We do have every cover frame.

I do.

You guys do that. Like, I want spreads frame. Like, 6 pages is every 1 of these are there's a lot of BS we had to make up.

I love

that photo of the show. Creative writing because Yeah. It's like you be on and you just be, you know. I I should be Yeah.

I don't think people give you enough credit.

I I always complain about that. That's 1 of my I'm chasing credit,

you know. I'm gonna give it to you right now. Like, you went to USC. The whole backstory, I'm happy you told us of the princes of Malibu. Like, knowing you went to Brazil, you were shooting I

will let you watch that.

I wanna watch You can

watch it. You, I will let you.

And then I'll tell you what I think.

No. I know. You're gonna be like, you could win an Oscar. It's the it's in sane. Like, it's the work of art.

Like

Okay. Spencer, what are you insecure about?

Not getting credit. You know, I for, like, for my level of, like, energy I put into success, you know, I I don't I don't get treated with any credibility. You know? So that's an insecurity in the sense that, like, I've worked since 2004 nonstop on reality TV fame and, you know, and people are just like, oh, I hate a guy from the hills. Like, that took work for like Like, I was working.

Like, that's a job. So, you know, that's definitely an insecurity. And, you know, thankfully, being a dad created my new focus on just being, like, the best dad. So it's, like, it's less selfish. So no matter what, like, I've now transitioned, like, I'm kind of like a rap.

You know, like, whatever happens with my career and, like, titles, like, now I've already moved on to, like, let me build the best superstar child and great human. So like, that has been a great energy shift. What I I wish it's a hard balance because I learned so many lessons. But like, should I have had a kid sooner? Did I need to go through everything to be ready to be a parent?

So, but insecurities

I know. I think that's a great answer. Do you think being a dad has changed you a lot?

It made me now thirsty again because I'm like, you know, like, let's get success. And I've like, people are like, why are you still trying to be famous? Like, that is where I'm at. Like, I'm not going to go be a banker now. I can't go be Camilla and be a lawyer.

Like, even though Kim is being a lawyer, like, I don't have that time for the baby bar. So, like, I am gonna be a television star again. Gonna get a show. I'm gonna produce. Like, that's why I'm now back in the game.

I think producing for you.

Oh, no. It's it's going down. Yeah. It's the the the slate is strong. So that's the only reason why like like, why do you want this again?

It's like, because now it's time. Like, I had already I was living in Santa Barbara at the Yeah. Parents' beach house. I was done. But now because I could live like that with just Heidi and eat tacos and be chill.

But I wanna give my son and future family members, you know, because Heidi doesn't wanna stop at 1. So it's like I wanna build, you know, solid, you know, because I grew up with amazing life.

Yeah. It's too

late to be a

dentist. Spencer Pratt.

I just wanna look to the camera and thank the daddy gang. Oh my god. For all the daddy gang

Mhmm. Promo

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And I used to literally claim as Snapchat a year as Pratt Daddy. I'll be like, gang gang. We out here gang, gang. I was

like They never saw that.

You didn't I know. You're too young.

You can't hijack something you didn't know existed.

Do you know what I mean? Energetically. Energetically.

It's honestly, thank you so much for coming back.

I'm not ending. I'm gonna you're gonna turn

the camera. I'm leaving because you're gonna keep talking.

This is the real way to show it.

Thank you so much. Gotta go. Goodbye. Clout,

Spotify Spotify live after room. I'm gonna, like, be live after her show and doing my own live room.

Goodbye, Spencer.

Oh, man.

Thank you so much for calling on caller, daddy. I really do appreciate it. I'm

just cut. I'm not gonna stand up.

Dude, you're great. That was great.

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