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January Iowa Democratic Debate Transcript

00:00:02
When the Congress was debating whether or not we go into a war in Iraq, invade Iraq. I got up on the floor of the House and I said that would be a disaster would lead to unprecedented levels of chaos in the region, and I'd not only voted against the war, I helped lead the effort against that war just last year. I help for the first time in the modern history of this country. Passed a War Powers Act resolution working with a conservative Republican, Mike Lee of Utah, which said that the war in Yemen, led by Saudi Arabia, was unconstitutional because Congress had not authorized it.
00:00:48
We got a majority vote in the Senate. We got a majority vote in the House. Unfortunately, Bush veto that and that horrific war continues. I am able to work with Republicans. I am able to bring people together to try to create a world where we solve conflicts over the negotiating table, not through military efforts. Vice President Biden, you talk a lot about your experience, but some of your competitors have taken issue with that experience, questioning your judgment in voting to authorize the Iraq war.
00:01:22
Why are you the best prepared person on this stage to be commander in chief? I said 13 years ago was a mistake to give the president the authority to go to war. If, in fact, he couldn't get inspectors in to Iraq to stop, it was thought to be the attempt to get a nuclear weapon. It was a mistake, and I acknowledge that. But right out, the man who also argued against that war, Barack Obama, picked me to be his vice president.
00:01:51
And once we can't was once we were elected president, he turned and vice president turned to me and asked me to end that war. I know what it's like to send a son or daughter like our our colleague has gone to war in Afghanistan. My son, 4 year in Iraq. And that's why I do it very, very reluctantly. That's why I led the effort, as you know, Wolf, against surging tens of thousands of troops in Afghanistan.
00:02:14
We should not send anyone anywhere. And that's the overwhelming vital interest. United States are at stake. They were not at stake there. They were not at stake in Iraq. And it was a mistaken vote. When I think my record overall on every everything we've done has been, I'm prepared to compare it to anybody's on this stage.
00:02:33
Senator Sanders, you have been attacking Vice President Biden's vote on the Iraq war, but you recently acknowledged that your vote to authorize the war in Afghanistan was also a mistake. So you've both acknowledged mistakes. Why should the American people trust your judgment more? Well, it's a little bit of a difference on that particular vote. Every single member of the House, including myself, voted for it. Only Barbara Leet voted against it. But what I understood from right away in terms of the war in Iraq, the difference here is that the war in Iraq turned out to be the worst foreign policy blunder in the modern history of this country.
00:03:12
There's Joe well knows we lost forty five hundred brave troops. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died. We have spent trillions of dollars on that endless war money, which should go into health care and education and infrastructure in this country. Joe and I listen to what Dick Cheney and George Bush and Rumsfeld had to say. I thought they were lying. I didn't believe them for a moment. I took to the floor. I did everything I could to prevent that war.
00:03:44
Joe saw it differently.
00:03:46
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN I was asked to bring one hundred fifty six thousand troops home from that war, which I did. I led that effort. It was a mistake to trust that they weren't going to go to war. They said they were not going to go to war. They said they were just going to get inspectors in the world, in fact, voted to send inspectors in and they still went to war. From that point on, I was in the position of making the case that it was a big, big mistake.
00:04:09
And from that point on, I voted to I move to bring those troops home.
00:04:14
Senator Klobuchar, you've publicly questioned Mayor Buddah judge's experience when it comes to being commander in chief. Why is your time as a U.S. senator more valuable than his time as a U.S. naval intelligence officer in Afghanistan? And as mayor? Thank you, Wolf.
00:04:31
And I've been very clear that I respect the mayor's experience very much in the military. I just have different experience. I've been in the U.S. Senate for over 12 years. And I think what you want in a president is someone who has dealt with these life and death issues and who has made decisions. I will look at my position on the Iraq war first. I wasn't in the Senate for that vote, but I opposed that war from the very beginning in my first campaign for Senate.
00:05:00
I ran against a Republican who ran ads against me on it, but I stood my ground when I got to the Senate. I pushed to bring our troops home. Then I have dealt with every issue from Afghanistan to keeping our troops with good health care after what we saw with Walter Reed and being part of an effort to improve the situation for our troops in a very big way with our education and with our jobs and also with their health care. I think right now what we should be talking about, though, Wolf, is what is happening right now.
00:05:32
With Donald Trump, Donald Trump is taking as pell mell toward another war. We have a very important resolution. We just found out today that four Republicans are joining Democrats to go to him and say you must have an authorization of military force if you're going to go to war with Iran. That is so important because we have a situation where he got us out of the Iranian nuclear agreement, something I worked on for a significant period of time. As president, I will get us back into that agreement.
00:06:02
I will take an oath to protect and defend our Constitution. And I will mean it.
00:06:07
Thank you, Senator. Clubs, are we going to continue talking about who's best prepared to be commander in chief? Mayor, but a judge? Well, I bring a different perspective.
00:06:16
There are enlisted people that I serve with barely old enough to remember those votes on the authorization after 9/11 on the war in Iraq. And there are people now old enough to enlist who were not alive for some of those debates. The next president is going to be confronted with national security challenges, different in scope and in kind from anything we've seen before. Not just conventional military challenges, not just stateless terrorism, but cyber security challenges, climate security challenges, foreign interference in our elections.
00:06:53
It's going to take a view to the future, as well as the readiness to learn from the lessons of the past and for me, those lessons of the past or personal.
00:07:03
Senator Warren, in our new CNN Des Moines Register poll, almost a third of your supporters say your ability to lead the military is more of a weakness than a strength of yours. Why are you best prepared to be commander in chief?
00:07:17
I believe the principal job at the commander in chief is to keep America safe. And I think that's about judgment. I think it starts with knowing our military. I sit on the Senate Armed Services Committee. I work with our generals, with our military leaders, with our intelligence. But I also visit our troops. I visit our troops around the world. I've been to Afghanistan, to Iraq, to Jordan, to South Korea, been to lots of places to talk with our troops.
00:07:43
And I fight for our troops to make sure that they get their pay, that they get the housing and medical benefits that they've been promised, that they don't get cheated by giant financial institutions. You know, I have three brothers who are in the military, and I know how much our military families sacrifice. But I also know that we have to think about our defense in very different ways. We have to think about cyber. We have to think about climate.
00:08:07
We also have to think about how we spend money.
00:08:10
We have a problem with a revolving door in Washington between the defense industry and the Department of Defense and the Pentagon. That is corruption, pure and simple. We need to block that revolving door and we need to cut our defense budget. We need to depend on all of our tools, diplomatic, economic, working with our allies and not let the defense industry call the shots. Mr. Stier, you worked in finance for decades and have never held elected office.
00:08:41
Why should voters believe you have the experience or judgment to serve as commander in chief? I worked internationally around the world for decades. I traveled. I met with governments, I met with businesses. And I understand how America interacts with other countries. And you asked, what is the reason that the experience really counts? And to me, I believe that Senator Warren made a great point. It isn't so much about experience. It's about judgment. If you've been listening to this, what we are hearing is 20 years of mistakes by the American government in the Middle East, a failure of mistakes.
00:09:21
So the real question is judgment. And if you look who had the judgment, it was a state senator from Illinois with no experience named Barack Obama who opposed the war. It is a congresswoman, Barbara Lee from Oakland, California, who stood up against the original vote, who is the only person in Congress.
00:09:40
So I would say to you this an outside perspective, looking at this and actually dealing with the problems as they are is what we're looking for now. I agree with Senator Warren. We are spending dramatically too much money on defense. The money that we're spending there, we could spend in the other parts of the budget. And it's time from someone from the outside to have a strategic view about what we're trying to do and how to do it.
00:10:04
Senator Sanders, in the wake of the Iran crisis, Iran's Ayatollah fulminates has again called for all U.S. troops to be pulled out of the Middle East, something you've called for as well. Yet when American troops last left Iraq, ISIS emerged and spread terror across the Middle East and indeed around the world. How would you prevent that from happening again? Let me tell you. But before I tell you, let me tell you something else. And that is, I don't know if my colleagues here will agree with me or not.
00:10:36
Maybe they will. But what we have to face is a nation is that the two great foreign policy disasters of our lifetimes, the war in Vietnam and the war in Iraq. Both of those wars were based on lies. And right now, what I fear very much is we have a president who is lying again and could drag us into a war that is even worse than the war in Iraq. But to answer your question. What we need to do is have an international coalition.
00:11:14
We cannot keep acting unilaterally. As you know, the nuclear deal with Iran was worked on with a number of our allies. We have got to undo what Trump did, bring that coalition together and make sure that Iran never gets a nuclear weapon.
00:11:32
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN I was part of that deal to get the nuclear agreement with Iran, bringing together the rest of the world, including some of the folks who aren't friendly to us. And it was working. It was working. It was being held tightly. There was no movement on the part of the Iranian government to get close to a nuclear weapon. And look what's happened.
00:11:53
He went ahead and it was predictable from the day he was pulled out of that agreement. Trump, what exactly would happen? We're not isolated. We're in a situation where our allies in Europe are making a comparison between the United States and Iran, saying both are to stand down, making a moral equivalence. We have lost our standing in the region. We have lost the support of our allies. The next president has to be able to pull those folks back together, reestablish our alliances and insist that Iran go back into the agreement, which I believe with the pressure applied as we put on before we can get done.
00:12:29
So just to be clear, Vice President Biden, would you leave troops in the Middle East or would you pull them out?
00:12:35
I would leave troops in the Middle East in terms of patrolling the Gulf where we have to where we are now.
00:12:41
Small numbers of troops. And I think it's a mistake to pull out the straw. The small number of troops that are there now to deal with ISIS. What's happened is now that he's gone ahead, the president and started this whole process moving. What's happening? We ISIS is going to reconstitute itself. We're in a position where we're have to pull our forces out. Americans have to leave the entire region. And quite frankly, I think he's flat out lied about saying the reason he went after the reason he made the strike was because our embassies were about to be bombed.
00:13:13
Senator Klobuchar, what's your response?
00:13:15
I would leave some troops there, but not in the level that Donald Trump is taking us right now. Afghanistan, I have long wanted to bring our troops home. I would do that somewhat remain for counterterrorism and training in Syria. I would have not have removed 150 troops from the border with Turkey. I think that was a mistake. I think it made our allies and many others much more vulnerable to ISIS. And then when it comes to Iraq right now, I would leave our troops there despite the mess that has been created by Donald Trump at the briefing we had last week.
00:13:51
I was the only person on this stage that asked a question of both the secretary of defense and the secretary of state. And I asked him about imminent threat. But I also asked them what their alternatives were. And they gave very vague, vague answers. I asked them where is the surge of diplomacy that we would be seeing if I was president. And I asked them where they were going to leave the Iraqi people time and time again. You see that this president puts his own interests, his private interests in front of our countries.
00:14:20
I would put our country's interests first as a man.
00:14:24
Senator, a Warren leave combat troops, at least some combat troops in the Middle East or bring them home?
00:14:30
No, I think we need to get our combat troops out. You know, we have to stop this mindset that we can do everything with combat troops. Our military is the finest military on earth. And they will take any sacrifice we ask them to take. But we should stop asking our military to solve problems that cannot be solved militarily. Our keeping combat troops there is not helping. We need to work with our allies. We need to use our economic tools.
00:15:00
We need to use our diplomatic tools. Now, look, I understand there are people on this stage when it comes to Afghanistan, for example, who talk about five more years, 10 more years. Shoot. Lindsey Graham talks about leaving troops there for a hundred more years. No one has a solution and an endpoint. We need to get our combat troops out. They are not helping create more safety for the United States or the region.
00:15:24
Vice President Biden, Senator Warner. Right. Well, I'll tell you what was a victory. Combat troops and leaving special forces in a position I was part of the coalition that put together 68 countries to deal with stateless terror as well as failed states. Not us alone. Sixty eight other countries. That's how we were able to defeat. And then the caliphate for ISIS. They'll come back if we do not deal with them. And we do not have someone who can bring together the rest of the world to go with us.
00:15:53
With small numbers of special forces, we have to organize the effort to take them down.
00:15:58
Mayor, Buddah, Judge, you served in Afghanistan. Who's right? We can continue to remain engaged without having an endless commitment of ground troops. What's going on right now is the. It's actually sending more the very president who said he was going to end endless war, who pretended to have been against the war in Iraq all along. But we know that's not true. Now, has more troops go into the Middle East? And whenever I see that happen, I think about the day we shipped out and the time that was set aside for saying goodbye to family members.
00:16:29
I remember walking with a friend of mine, another lieutenant I trained with as we walked away. And his one and a half year old boy was toddling after him, not understanding why his father wasn't turning back to scoop him up and took all the strength he had not to turn around and look at his boy one more time. That is happening by the thousands right now as we see so many more troops sent into harm's way. And my perspective is to ensure that that will never happen when there is an alternative.
00:17:01
As commander in chief. Senator Sanders, wealth in America today. Our infrastructure is crumbling. Half of our people are living paycheck to paycheck. Eighty seven million people have no health care or are uninsured or underinsured. Got five hundred thousand people sleeping out on the streets tonight. The American people are sick and tired of endless wars which have cost us trillions of dollars. Our job is to rebuild the United Nations. They rebuild the State Department, make sure that we have the capability of bringing the world together to resolve international conflict diplomatically and stop the endless wars that we have.
00:17:43
We're going to get to everyone but Vice President Biden. You criticize President Trump's decision to kill the Iranian General Suleimani without first going to Congress. Are there any circumstances other than a direct attack on the United States where you would take military action without congressional approval?
00:18:02
I ran the first time as a 29 year old kid against war in Vietnam on the grounds that only way to could take a nation to wars with the informed consent of the American people, the informed consent of the American people. And with regard to this idea that we can walk away and not have any troops anywhere, including special forces, we there's no way you negotiate or been able to negotiate with terrorists. You have to be able to form coalitions to be able to defeat them or contain them.
00:18:30
If you don't, we end up being the world's policeman again. They're going to come to us. They've come to us before. They'll come to us again. So it's a fundamental difference than negotiating with other countries. It's fundamentally the requirement that we use our special forces in small numbers to coordinate with other countries to bring together coalitions. Mr. Vice President, just to be clear, the Obama Biden administration did not ask Congress for permission multiple times when it took military action.
00:18:58
So what the Biden doctrine be different, though?
00:19:01
There was the authorization for the use of military force that was passed by the United States Congress, House and Senate and signed by the president. That was the authority does not give authority to go into Iran. It gave authority to deal with these other issues.
00:19:15
Mayor, isn't that authorization needs to be replaced? Exactly. We tried. Look, when we lost troops in the air, there were members of Congress who admitted they didn't even know we had troops there. And it was all pursuant to an authorization that was passed to deal with al-Qaida and 9/11. And often Congress has been all too happy to leave aside its role. Now, thanks to Democrats in Congress, that's changing. But the reality is, year after year, Congress didn't want to touch this Egypt either because it was so politically difficult.
00:19:46
Fundamental truth is, if our troops can summon the courage to go overseas into harm's way, often on deployment after deployment, and we've got to make sure that Congress has the courage to take tough up or down votes on whether they ought to be there. And when I am president, any time, which I hope will never happen. But anytime I'm compelled to use force, I seek that authorization. We will have a three year sunset so that the American people are included not only in the decision about whether to send troops, but whether to conduct here.
00:20:15
Senator Warren, I'm going to get to everyone but Senator Warner, what about you? Are there any circumstances other than a direct attack on the United States where you would take military action without congressional approval?
00:20:28
Well, imminent threat, but we need an authorization for the use of military force before we take this nation into combat. That is what the constitution provides. And that's what as commander in chief, I will do.
00:20:40
But I just want to be clear. Everyone on this stage talks about nobody wants endless war. But the question is when and how do you plan to get out of it? You know, it's on Senate Armed Service Committee. We have one general after another in Afghanistan who comes in and says, you know, we've just turned the corner and now it's all going to be different. And then what happens? It's all the same for another year. Someone new comes in and we've just turned the corner.
00:21:07
We've turned the corner so many times. We're. Going in circles in these regions, this has got to stop. It's not enough to say someday we're going to get out. No one on the ground. None of our military can describe what the conditions are for getting out. It's time to get our combat troops home.
00:21:24
Mr. Stier, what a president's Stier use military force as a deterrent. And if not, under what circumstances would you take military action?
00:21:34
I would take military action to protect the lives and safety of American citizens. But what we can see in the Middle East and what this conversation shows is that there is no real strategy that we're trying to accomplish in what we're doing in the Middle East. Obviously, Mr. Trump has no strategy. He is going from crisis to crisis, from escalation to escalation. But if you look further over the last 20 years, including in the war in Afghanistan, we know from The Washington Post that, in fact, there was no strategy.
00:22:05
There was just a series of tactical decisions that made no sense. So we really have to ask ourself in the Middle East, what are we trying to accomplish? I agree with Vice President Biden to do it. We should definitely be doing it in coalition with other countries. And I want to point out that as we do that, we're confronted by this issue, which everyone is talking about. But at the same time, there's a gigantic climate issue in Australia, which also requires the same kind of value driven coalition building that we actually should be using in the Middle East.
00:22:38
We need to ask ourselves, how are we going to provide a world that is safer for Americans where we can prosper more and every single thing we do should follow into that strategy. And it's just not happening in Washington, D.C., Mayor, but a judge.
00:22:51
Another critical issue you'd face as president is the threat of nuclear weapons. Last week, President Trump said, quote, As long as I am president of the United States, Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. Would a President Videojet make that same promise, ensuring that Iran does not develop nuclear weapons?
00:23:10
Will, of course, be a priority because it's such an important part of keeping America safe. But unfortunately, President Trump has made it much harder for the next president to achieve that goal by gutting the Iran nuclear deal, one that, by the way, the Trump administration itself admitted was working, certified, that it was preventing progress toward a nuclear Iran by gutting that they have made the region more dangerous and set off the chain of events that we're now dealing with as it escalates even closer to the brink of outright war.
00:23:45
Now, let's continue in order to get that done, going to work with our partners. Iran nuclear deal. The technical term for it was the JCP away. That first letter J stood for joint. We can't do this alone, even less so now after everything that has happened, which is why it will be so critically important to engage leaders, including a lot of new leaders emerging emerging around the world and ensure that we have the alliances we need to meet what I believe is not just an American goal, but a widely shared goal around the world to ensure that Iran does not become a nuclear armed country.
00:24:21
And they are, just to be clear. Would you allow Iran to become a nuclear power? Yes or no? No.
00:24:27
That our security depends on ensuring that Iran does not become nuclear. And by the way, we've got all other other challenges with nuclear proliferation around the world. Despite this president's coziness with Vladimir Putin, we actually seem to be further away from being able to work with Russia on things like the renewal of start. We've got to move toward less, not more nuclear danger, whether it is from states from stateless potential terrorists. Thank you, Mayor. Or anywhere else around the world.
00:24:56
Thank you, Mayor Richard. Senator Klobuchar. If you become president, it's very possible there won't be an Iran nuclear deal for the United States to join. Given that, how would you prevent Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon?
00:25:08
I would start negotiations again, and I won't take that as a given, given that our European partners are still trying to hold the agreement together. My issue is that because of the actions of Donald Trump, we are in a situation where they are now starting Iran is starting to enrich uranium again in violation of the original agreement. So what I would do is negotiate. I would bring people together just as President Obama did years ago. And I think that we can get this done, that you have to have a president that sees this as a number one goal.
00:25:45
And in answer to the original question you asked the mayor, I would not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. And then you have to get an ingredient in place. I think there are changes you can make to the agreement. Better sunset, some changes to the inspections. But overall, that is what we should do. And I am the one person on this debate stage on the first night of the very first debate when we were. What we saw as the biggest threat to our world.
00:26:12
I said China on the economy. But I said Iran because of Donald Trump, because I feared that exactly what happened would happen. Enrichment of uranium. Escalation of tensions. Leaving frayed relations with our allies. We can bring them back. Understanding this is a terrorist regime that we cannot allow to have a nuclear weapon.
00:26:33
Vice President Biden, I want to ask you about North Korea. President Trump has met with Kim Jong un three times. President Obama once said he would meet with North Korea without any preconditions. Would you meet with North Korea without any preconditions?
00:26:47
No, not now. I would meet with about any preconditions. Look what we gave him. Everything he's looking for legitimacy. The president showed up. Met with him. Gave him legitimacy. Weakened the sanctions we have against them. I would be putting what I did as vice president. I met with Xi Jinping more than anyone else. I would be putting pressure on China to put pressure on Korea to cease and desist from a nuclear power, make their efforts to deal with nuclear weapons.
00:27:14
I would move forward, as we did before. And you reported it extensively, Wolf, about moving forward. The whole notion of defense against nuclear weapons that we would and when China said to me when changing things that to me that's a threat to us, I said, we're going to move and protect our interests unless you get involved and protected. I would reunite the relationship between Japan and South Korea, and I would put enormous pressure, enormous pressure on China, because it's also in their interest for them to put pressure on North Korea to cease and desist.
00:27:47
But I would not I would not meet with absent preconditions. I would not meet with the, quote, supreme leader who said Joe Biden is a rabid dog who should be beaten to death with a stick. I can't tell. Other than that, you like other not.
00:28:02
I like him. And he he and he got a love letter from Trump right after that. Mr. Siah, would you meet with North Korea without any preconditions?
00:28:11
No. It's very clear that if we're going to do something with North Korea, we're going to have to do it in concert with our allies. That meeting with him without preconditions is not going anywhere that the staff can meet to try and see how far we can get. But this is a classic situation where the United States idea of going it alone makes no sense. And when you are talking about Iran, let's face it, Iran is under great pressure economically.
00:28:40
So every single discussion we've had about Iran has had to do with military power and America versus Iran. Whereas in fact, what worked with President Obama was a alliance of our allies and us putting economic pressure on them for them to give up their military tactic. That to me is called strategy, having a goal to make America safer by looking more broadly than just us as the policeman of the world, I am sending money.
00:29:10
Let's stay with the theme of America's role in the world and talk about trade. Tomorrow, President Trump is expected to sign phase one of a trade agreement with China, and the Senate will likely soon approve a new trade deal with Mexico and Canada. Iowa's largest trading partners. Senator Sanders, you have said that New Deal, the U.S. NCEA, quote, make some modest improvements, yet you are going to vote against it. Aren't modest improvements? Better than no improvements for the farmers or manufacturers who have been devastated here in Iowa.
00:29:40
The answer is we could do much better than a Trump led trade deal. This deal, and I think the proponents of it acknowledge, will result in the continuation of the loss of hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs as a result of outsourcing. The heart and soul of our disastrous trade agreements. And I'm the guy who voted against laughter and against permanent normal trade relations with China is that we have forced American workers to compete against people in Mexico, in China, elsewhere who earn starvation wages, a dollar or two dollars an hour.
00:30:16
Second of all, every major environmental organization has said no to this new trade agreement because it does not even have the phrase climate change in it. And given the fact that climate change is right now the greatest threat facing this planet, I will not vote for a trade agreement that does not incorporate very, very strong principles to significantly lower fossil fuel emissions in the world.
00:30:46
Senator Sanders, to be clear, the AFL CIO supports this deal. Are you unwilling to compromise?
00:30:53
The AFL CIO does. The machinists union does not. In every environmental organization in this country, including the Sunrise organization, who's supporting it, were supporting my candidacy, opposes it. So I happen to believe and I hope we will. Talk about climate change in a moment. If we do not get our act together in terms of climate change, the planet that we're going to be leaving our kids and our children and our grandchildren will be increasingly unlivable on climate change.
00:31:23
But I'd like to say on trade, Senator Romney all the same on this issue. Senator Warren, you support the U.S. NCEA. Why is Senator Sanders wrong? I do.
00:31:32
I wasn't here. I've been in Congress long enough to have voted against NAFTA, but I led the fight against the trade deal with Asia and the trade deal with Europe, because I didn't think it was in the interests of the American people. The American workers or environmental interests. But we have farmers here in Iowa who are hurting and they are hurting because of Donald Trump's initiated trade wars. We have workers who are hurting because the agreements that have already been cut really don't have enforcement on workers' rights.
00:32:02
This new trade deal is a modest improvement. Senator Sanders himself has said so. It will give some relief to our farmers. It will give some relief to our workers. I believe we accept that relief. We try to help the people who need help and we get up the next day and fight for a better trade deal. We need a coherent trade policy. We need a policy that actually helps our workers, our farmers. We need them at the table, not just to trade policy written for big international companies.
00:32:35
I'm ready to have that fight. Let's help the people.
00:32:38
Senator Sanders, can you please respond to Senator Warren?
00:32:42
Well, I think that. It is not so easy to put together new trade legislation if this is passed. I think it will set us back a number of years. Senator Warner is right. And so we need to bring the stakeholders to the table. That is the family farmers here in Iowa and in Vermont and around the country. That is the environmental community. That is the workers. Bottom line here is I am sick and tired of trade agreements negotiated by the CEOs of large corporations at our club.
00:33:12
I will bring you in here, Brian.
00:33:14
I want to hit reality here. I serve on the Agriculture Committee, and I will never forget going to Crawfordsville here in Iowa. And thank you for bringing up Iowa spring and since that is where we are. And I went to this plant and there was one worker left in that plant. That plant had been shut down because of Donald Trump's trade policies and because of what he had done to those workers with giving secret waivers to oil companies and ruining the renewable fuel standard.
00:33:39
That worker brought out a coat rack of uniforms. And he said, these are my friends. They don't work here anymore. And their names were embroidered on those uniforms. Derek, Mark, Salvador and that guy started to cry. These are real people hurt by Donald Trump's trade war. So what we should do and I support the USMC. I am glad that these improvements were made that are supported by people like Richard Trumka and Sherrod Brown on labor and environment and on farm.
00:34:09
The sweetheart deal, because I think we need a big trading bloc with North America to take on China and the way you draw it with your allies, never to judge.
00:34:20
Do you support the U.S.? Yes or no?
00:34:23
Yes. It has been improved. It is not perfect. But when you sit down with the people who are most impacted, they share just how much harm has been done to them by things like the trade war and just how much we can benefit American consumers and workers and farmers by making sure we have the right kind of labor and enforceability as Democrats ensured we got in this USMC. But let's acknowledge why there is such fear and frustration on my part of the country in the industrial Midwest.
00:34:57
I remember when they came around in the 90s selling trade deals, telling us, don't worry about your slice of the pie. The pie will get so much bigger that everyone will be better off. And that promise was broken. The part about the pie getting bigger happened. It's just that the part about it getting to most people where I live did not. That is why there is such frustration, the sense that these decisions in boardrooms and in committee rooms in Washington are being made not based on what's about to change, but based on their own game.
00:35:28
Vice President Biden, Senator Sanders has said Donald Trump will, quote, eat your lunch for voting yes on what he calls terrible trade agreements when it comes to trade. Why are you the best candidate to take on President Trump?
00:35:41
There will be no trade agreements signed in my administration without environmental environmentalist and labor at the table. And there will be no trade agreement until we invest more in American workers. We should be putting our money and our effort in our time and preparing American workers to compete in the 21st century. The high tech side dealing with all our artificial intelligence. We should be focusing on equipping American workers to do that. And by the way, the idea I don't know that there's any trade agreement that the senator would ever think made any sense.
00:36:14
But the problem is that ninety five percent of the customers are out there. So we better figure out how we begin to write the rules of the road, not China.
00:36:22
Senator Sanders. Joe and I have a fundamental disagreement here. Catia, I have a notice, and that is NAFTA, PNTR with China. Other trade agreements were written for one reason alone. And that is to increase the profits of large multinational corporations. And the end result of those two just PNTR with China. Joe and NAFTA cost us some 4 million jobs as part of the race to the bottom. I am sick and tired and will not tolerate and we will use the power of the federal contracting system.
00:37:02
If a corporation in America wants to shut down in Iowa or Vermont or anyplace else. And then they think they're going to get online for a generous federal contract. They've got another thing going. We need some corporate responsibility here and we need to protect good paying jobs in America, not see them go to China, Mexico, Vietnam. Mr. Nice, what's your response?
00:37:24
We need corporate responsibility and I agree with that completely. But we also need to have enforcement mechanisms in the agreements we made enforceable agreements. That's one of the things that hasn't been improved with the rebate, with the trade agreement with Mexico. And that's what we should be doing. And any agreement we have. But let's get back to the basics here. If we don't set the rules of the road by going out to our partners, instead of poking our eye in perpetuity, poking our finger in the eye of all our friends and allies, we make up 25 percent of the world's economy.
00:37:56
We've got to bring the other 25 percent of our allies along with us to set the rules of the road.
00:38:01
So China cannot continue to abuse their power by stealing intellectual are stealing our intellectual property and doing all the other things, using their their corporate state system to add to our significant disadvantage.
00:38:14
Senator Warren, you know, our problem is not just that we need corporate responsibility. It's been the structure of how these trade deals have been negotiated. The United States has had a strategy for decades, and that strategy has been to have government trade negotiators a small number and then surround them with giant multinational corporation lobbyists and corporate executives who whisper in the ears of our negotiators and then get deals cut that are great for the giant multinational corporations. Not good for America, not good for American workers, not good for the environment.
00:38:48
We need a different approach to trade. And it starts by calling out the corruption of these giant corporations that have cut our trade deals. Everybody wants to get to the American market and we need to put some standards in place. You want to be able to sell your goods here, then you've got to meet some environmental standards.
00:39:06
You've got a lengthy labor standards. We would like to bring in Mr. Syariah here, Mr. Stier, even though farmers and manufacturers here in Iowa and around the country could see some relief from the China deal, they've been crushed by the current administration's trade war. What will you do as president to help them get back on their feet? Look, on the first day, I would undo Mr Trump's tariffs. On the first day, I would get rid of his waivers that Senator Klobuchar was referring to to oil refiners, so not having to use corn based ethanol.
00:39:41
In fact, these trade deals have been exactly what Senator Sanders and Warren have been saying, which is that they've been designed to grow the American GDP for the corporations of America, not for the working people of America, and not to protect the climate. So let me say this. I'm the only person on this stage who says climate is my number one priority.
00:40:03
I would not sign the deal because if climate is your number one priority, you can't sign a deal even if it's marginally better for working people until climate is also taken into consideration. Look, I've got four kids between the ages of 26 and 31. I cannot allow this country to go down the path of climate destruction. Everybody in their generation knows it. Frankly, Mayor boudinot, you're their generation. I think you would be standing up more. Look.
00:40:33
That's why I'm standing up for it. We cannot put climate on the back seat all the time and say we're gonna sign this one more deal. We're gonna do one more thing without putting climate first. That's why it's my number one priority. We can do it in a way that makes us richer, but we have to do it.
00:40:50
Maybe to judge our response. Well, that's right. This issue is personal for me. So we're going to tackle climate from day one. It's why we've got to make sure that we have better answers than we do today. Now, what I've noticed is pretty much all of us propose that we move on from fossil fuels by the middle of the century, starting with actions that we take right now. The question is, how are we gonna make sure any of this actually gets done?
00:41:14
Because people have been saying the right things in these debates for literally decades. The other day in Winterset, there was a kid at one of my events raised his hand. He pointed out that he expects to be here in his nineties in the year twenty one hundred. He will sit in judgment over what we do, not just what we on this stage do. Anyone old enough to vote right now, whether we actually put together the national project? It will require to meet our climate goals to act aggressively, not just rejoined in the Paris Climate Accord.
00:41:47
That's table stakes. But to actually move on from the fossil dependent economy we live in today.
00:41:54
But you guys. Let's let's have TYAS, who let's not turn to an issue that's come up in the last 48 hours, Senator Sanders. CNN reported yesterday that Senator Sanders, Senator Warren confirmed in a statement that in 2018, you told her that you did not believe that a woman could win the election. Why did you say that?
00:42:14
Well, as a matter of fact, I didn't say are and I don't want to waste a whole lot of time on this, because this is what Donald Trump and maybe some of the media want. Anybody knows me, knows that it's incomprehensible that I would think that a woman could not be president of the United States. Go to YouTube today. There's some video of me 30 years ago talking about how a woman could become president of the United States. In 2015, I def.
00:42:42
, in fact, the Senate awards was a movement to draft Senator Warren to run for president. And you know what I said, stay back. Senator Warren decided not to run. And I did. I did run afterwards. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes. How could anybody in a million years not believe that a woman could become president of the United States? And let me be very clear. If any of the women on this stage or any of the men on this stage win the nomination, I hope that's not the case.
00:43:14
I hope it's me.
00:43:16
But if they do, I will do everything in my power to make sure that they are elected in order to defeat the most dangerous precedent in the history of our country.
00:43:26
So, Senator Sanders, Senator Sanders, I do want to be clear here. You are saying that you never told Senator Warren that a woman could not win the election. That is true. Senator Warren, what did you think when Senator Sanders Sanders told you a woman could not win the election?
00:43:44
I disagreed. Bernie is my friend and I am not here to try to fight with Bernie. But look, this question about whether or not a woman can be president has been raised and it's time for us to attack it head on. And I think the best way to talk about who can win is by looking at people's winning record. So kind of woman beat Donald Trump. Look at the men on this stage. Collectively, they have lost 10 elections.
00:44:14
The only people on this stage who have won every single election that they've been in are the women.
00:44:20
Amy? The only person on this stage who has beaten an incumbent Republican any time in the past 30 years is me. And here's what I know. The real danger that we face as Democrats is picking a candidate who can't pull our party together or someone who takes for granted big parts of the Democratic constituency. We need a candidate who will excite all parts of the Democratic Party, bring everyone in and give everyone a Democrat to believe in. That's my plan.
00:45:05
And that is why I'm going to win.
00:45:07
Senator Klobuchar, thank you for the shower. What do you say to. Thank you, Elizabeth, Senator Clover's heart? Yes. I would like Senator Inhofe. Let me finish my call. OK. What do you say to people? I thought it was such an open and I wasn't at the meeting, so I can't comment.
00:45:23
But I was going to say, what what do you say to people who say that a woman can't win this election?
00:45:29
I hear that people have said it. That's why I've addressed it from this stage. I point out that you don't have to be the tallest person in the room. James Madison was 5 foot 4. You don't have to be the skinniest person in the room. You don't see the loudest person. You have to be competent. And when you look at the facts on Michigan has a woman governor right now and she beat a Republican. Gretchen Whitmer, Kansas, have a woman governor right now and she beat Chris Kobuk and her name is.
00:45:58
I'm very proud to know her. And her name is Governor Kelly. Thank you. Third, I would add to this, you have to be a competent to win and you have to know what you're doing. And when you look at what I have done, I have won every race, every place, every time I have won in the reddest of districts. I have won in the suburban areas, in the rural areas. I have brought people with me.
00:46:24
That is why I have the most endorsements of current Iowa legislators and former Iowa legislators in this race, because I know I bring people with me. And finally, every single person that I have beaten, my Republican opponents have gotten out of politics for good.
00:46:41
And I think I think that sounds pretty good. I think that sounds pretty good with the guy we have in the White House right now. Senator Sanders, you can just set the record straight.
00:46:51
I defeated an incumbent Republican running for Congress in nineteen ninety. Tower One beat a Republican congressman. Number two. Of course, I don't think there's any debate. Wasn't it?
00:47:10
30 years ago. I beat an incumbent Republican congressman and I said I was the only one who has beaten an incumbent Republican in 30 years.
00:47:20
Well, 30 years ago as 1990. As a matter of fact. But I don't know that that's the major issue of the day. I think what the major issue of the day is, let's.
00:47:30
Does anybody in their right mind think that a woman cannot be elected president? No. Nobody believes that. Hillary Clinton got 3 million votes, more votes than Trump. So who believes that a woman can't win? Of course a woman can win. But the real question is, how do we beat Trump? And the only way we beat Trump by is by a campaign of energy and excitement and a campaign that has by far the largest voter turnout in the history of this country.
00:48:02
And I believe that our campaign has the strongest grassroots movement that we have endorsed by many great ed words said a word. I want to give you the final word.
00:48:11
So I do think that's the right question to how do we beat Trump? And here's the thing. Since Donald Trump was elected, women candidates have outperformed men, candidates in competitive races. And in twenty eighteen, we took back the House. We took back state houses because of women candidates and women voters. Look, don't deny that the question is there. Back in the 1960s, people ask, could a Catholic win back in 2008? People asked if an African-American could win.
00:48:45
In both times, the Democratic Party stepped up and said, yes, got behind their candidate and we changed America. That's who we are.
00:48:56
Vice President Biden, Vice President Biden, go ahead.
00:49:00
I agree. Women can win. And I went in and campaigned for 27 of the most last in twenty eighteen, the best group I've ever campaigned for in terms of competence. But the real issue is who can bring the whole party together represents all elements of the party. African-Americans. Brown, black. Women, men. Gay, straight. The fact of the matter is that I would argue that in terms of endorsements around the country, endorsements wherever we go, I am the one who has the broadest coalition of anyone running up here in this race.
00:49:34
All right. We're going to take a short break now. The CNN Democratic presidential debate live from Drake University.
00:54:32
Let's turn to health care. The top issue for Iowa Democrats, Donald Trump is trying to repeal Obamacare, including the protections for pre-existing conditions. We all know that each of you vigorously opposes that. Still, there are some questions about what each of you would do. Senator Sanders, you've consistently refused to say exactly how much your Medicare for all plan is going to cost. Don't voters deserve to see the price tag before you send them a bill that could cost tens of trillions of dollars?
00:55:02
Well, what I will tell you is Medicare for all, which will guarantee comprehensive health care to every man, woman and child, will cost substantially less than the status quo. Medicare for all will end the absurdity of the United States paying bifl the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs and health care in general. While we have 87 million uninsured and underinsured, uninsured and underinsured and while thirty thousand people die each year on the Medicare payroll, one of the prisons we have to pay for it is a 4 percent tax on income, exempting the first twenty nine thousand dollars.
00:55:45
So the average family in America today makes sixty thousand dollars would pay twelve hundred dollars a year compared to that family paying twelve thousand dollars a year. We save money, comprehensive health care, because we take on the greed and the profiteering and the administrative nightmare that currently exist in our dysfunctional system.
00:56:08
Vice President Biden, does Senator Sanders owe voters a price tag on his health care plan?
00:56:12
I think we need to be candid with voters and they grave to tell them what we're going to do and what it's going to cost. And a 4 percent tax on income over $24000 doesn't even come close to paying for between 30 and some estimates as high as 40 trillion dollars over 10 years. That's doubling the entire federal budget per year. There's a way to do that. Way to do that is to take Obamacare, reinstate rebuild it, provide a public option, allow Medicare for those folks who want it, and in fact, make sure that we get in the process, reduce the cost of drug drug prices, reduce the cost of being able to buy into the subsidizes further and make everybody available to everyone.
00:56:53
Here's the deal that costs a lot of money. That costs seven hundred and forty billion dollars over 10 years. I lay out how I pay for that.
00:57:01
Senator Sanders? Well, first of all, what Joe forgets to say is when you leave the current system as it is what you are talking about, all workers paying on average 20 percent of their incomes for health care. That is insane. You got five hundred thousand people going bankrupt because they cannot pay their medical bills. We're spending twice as much per capita on health care as do the people of any other country. Look, we've talked about health care for all in this country for over a hundred years.
00:57:34
Now is the time to take on the greed and corruption of the health care industry, of the drug companies, and finally, provide health care to all through Medicare for all single payer program. It won't be easy, but that is what we have to do.
00:57:50
You can do it without you can do without Medicare for all.
00:57:53
You can get the same place. Senator Klobuchar, your response?
00:57:57
Yeah. Senator Sanders and I have worked together on pharmaceuticals for a long, long time. And we agree on this. But what I don't agree with is that we should his position on health care. This debate isn't real. I was in Vegas the other day and someone said, don't put your chips and a number on the wheel. That isn't even on the wheel. That's the problem. Over two thirds of the Democrats in the U.S. Senate are not on the bill that you and Senator Warren are on.
00:58:24
You have numerous governors that are Democratic that don't support this. You have numerous House members that put Nancy Pelosi and the speaker. The answer is a nonprofit public option. The answer is the real debate we should be having is how do we make it easier for people to get coverage for addiction and mental health? I have a plan for that. And then finally, what should we do about Long-Term Care, the elephant that doesn't even fit in this room?
00:58:50
We need to make it easier for people to get long term care insurance. We need to make it easier for them to pay for their premiums. My own dad. I know when his long term care insurance ends and then we have some savings for him. He's in assisted living. He got married three times. Whole nother story. So there isn't much there. But then we go to Medicaid and I'm already talking to Catholic elder care. They're willing to take him in.
00:59:16
Our story is better than so many other families. We have to make it easier for long term care. It's not just that she's got a very special. It's also for that sandwich generation senator trying to help their parent in her Warren.
00:59:28
So we need to start with what's happening in America. People are suffering. I'll just pick one. Thirty six million people last year went to the doctor, got a prescription. This is what they needed to get well. And they couldn't afford to have the prescription filled. It looked at it and said it's either groceries or this prescription. My approach to this is we've got to get as much help to as many people as quickly as possible.
00:59:50
I have worked out a plan where we can do that without raising taxes on middle class families by one thin dime. What I can do is the things I can do as president. On the first day, we can cut the cost of prescription drugs. I'll use the power that's already given to the president to reduce the cost of insulin, an epi pens and HIV AIDS drugs. Let's get some relief to those families. And I will defend the Affordable Care Act.
01:00:18
I've got a plan to expand health care, but let's keep in mind, when we come to a general election, we Democrats may argue among each other about the best way to do health care, but we're going to be up against a Republican incumbent who has cut health care for millions of people and is still trying to do that. I'll take our side of the argument any day. Thank you, Senator Warren.
01:00:39
Vice President Biden. The proposal I lay out does, in fact, limit drug costs. It sets up allows all the drug companies. Excuse me. It allows you to Medicare to negotiate with drug companies for the price. It sets a system whereby you cannot raise the price of a drug beyond the cost of medical inflation. And by the way, there's mental health parity that I call for in the Obamacare expanded with the Biden option. Mr. Stier.
01:01:12
Look, we've had this conversation on this stage so many times. Everybody on this stage believes that affordable health care is a right for every single American. Everybody on this stage knows that Americans are paying twice as much for health care as any other advanced country in the world. And it makes no sense. And the government has to step in. I do happen to agree with Vice President Biden that we should move and develop the Affordable Care Act with a public option.
01:01:41
But the real question is this. This is not a new problem. Why do we keep having this conversation? We have a broken government. It has been bought by corporations that include the drug companies, the insurance companies and the private hospitals. That's what I'm talking about. How do we get back government of, by and for the people?
01:02:00
How do we actually break the corporate stranglehold on our document so that we can get these things passed? Thank you, Mr. Scio. Mr. Senator Sanders, your campaign proposals would double federal spending over the next decade at an unprecedented level of spending, a level of spending not seen since World War 2. How would you keep your plans from bankrupting the country?
01:02:21
Our plan wouldn't bankrupt the country. In fact, it would much improve the well-being of working class families and the middle class. Let us be clear what Medicare for all does. It ends all premiums and ends all co-payments. It ends the absurdity of deductibles. It ends out-of-pocket expenses. It takes on the pharmaceutical industry, which in some cases charges us 10 times more for the same prescription drugs sold abroad as Soulsville. What we will do through a Medicare for all single payer program is substantially lower the costs of health care for employers and workers because we end the hundred billion dollars a year that the health care industry makes and the five hundred billion dollars a year we spend it administrative, not the administrative nightmare of dealing with thousands of separate insurance plans.
01:03:19
Health care is a human right. Every other major country on earth is guaranteeing health care for all. The time is long overdue for us to do the same.
01:03:28
Senator Klobuchar, again, I think it is much better to build on the Affordable Care Act. And if you want to be practical and progressive at the same time and have a plan and not a pipe dream, you have to show how you're going to pay for it. And I would also note practically that the Affordable Care Act right now is 10 points more popular than the president of the United States. So I think the answer is to build on it.
01:03:50
And yes, I think you should show how you're going to pay for things, Bernie. I do. This president is freaking people out there like poker chips in one of his bankrupt casinos. The way he is adding to our debt. I am the one person up here who has on her Web site in her plan, a plan to actually start taking on the deficit by taking part of that money from that corporate tax cut that they put in there and putting it in a fund to pay back the deficit.
01:04:17
And I have shown time and pay for every single plan, capital gains I have that are going on as far as no level, getting rid of the oil giveaways, doing something about the hedge fund loophole. You can go, Senator, and share your time and the money to pay for things.
01:04:30
QUESTION Mayor, bitter judge, you're selling your plan as Medicare for all who want it. Yet your plan would automatically enroll uninsured Americans into a public option, even if they don't want it and force them to pay for it. How is that truth in advertising?
01:04:45
Well, it's making sure that there is no such thing as an uninsured American. Look, the individual mandate was an important part of the ACA because the system doesn't work if there are free riders. What I'm offering is a choice. You don't have to be in my plan if there's another plan that you would rather keep. And there's no need to kick Americans off the plans that they want in order to deliver health care for all. And my plan is paid for.
01:05:14
Look, our party should no longer hesitate to talk about the issue of the debt and the deficit. We've got a dramatically better track record on it than Republicans do. In my lifetime, it's almost invariably Republican presidents who have added to the deficit a trillion dollars under this president. And it's why everything I've put forward for Medicare, for all who want it to the historic investments we're going to make an infrastructure to dealing with climate change is fully paid for what comes to health care.
01:05:43
You can do it in two moves. Of course, my plan costs one point five trillion dollars over a decade. No small sum, but not the 20, 30, 40 that we're hearing about from the others. I've got to do is two things. Both of them are common sense. Allow Medicare to negotiate prescription drug prices and roll back the Trump corporate tax cuts that went to corporations and the wealthy that didn't even need it.
01:06:06
Senator Warren, so I started this by talking about 36 million Americans, including Americans with insurance who just can't even afford to have a prescription filled. We all talk about plans, health care plans that we have in these plans are paid for. The problem is that plant like the mattress and like the vice presidents is that they are an improvement. They are an improvement over where we are right now. Not going to be enough to cover prescriptions for 36 million people who can't afford to get them filled.
01:06:32
What we need to do is make the commitment that we know where the money comes from. We can ask those at the very top, the top 1 percent to pay a little more. Those giant corporations like Chevron and Amazon who paid nothing in taxes, we can have them pay and we can go after the corporate tax cheats. And when we do that, we have enough money to provide health care for all our people cheats. And when we do that, we have enough money to provide health care for all our people.
01:07:02
Yes, we build on the Affordable Care Act, but where we end up is we offer health care to all of our people and we can offer it at no cost or low cost to all of them.
01:07:14
Maybe change. It's just not true that the plan I'm proposing is small. We've got to move past a Washington mentality that suggests that the bigness of plans only consists of how many trillions of dollars they put through the Treasury, that the boldness of a plan only consists of how many Americans it can alienate. This would be a game changer. To me, the biggest thing we've done to American health care in a half century, let's measure the effects of our plans based on what they would do in our everyday lives.
01:07:45
And yes, we're taking on cost on prescription drugs will have an out-of-pocket cap even if you don't get the subsidies that would make it free. A $250 monthly cap, and here's why it's got to be monthly. You're been in that situation or known somebody who finds that they've got to defer a procedure or delay filling a prescription to try to have it happen in the right month, because when you're out of pocket cap hits, it makes no sense medically because most of us don't experience the economy on an annual basis.
01:08:12
Our bills don't come in every year. They come in every month. Same with our paychecks by winning carefully. That's why we set this up in a way to solve the problem without running like you. About 40 trillion dollars.
01:08:22
Senator Warren, your response? Look, the numbers that the mayor is offering just don't add up. The average family in America last year paid $12000 in some combination of deductibles and co-pays and uncovered expenses and fees. You can't cover that with the kind of money that the mayor is talking about. The way we have to approach this is we've got to build this and we've got to build the alliances to make this happen. I can bring down the cost of prescription drugs like insulin and take hundreds of millions of dollars out of the system immediately in costs.
01:08:56
We can get help to families, but we have to be willing to work together. We can let people experience what health care is like when it's you and your doctor, your mental health professional. You're the nurse practitioner with no insurance companies standing in the middle and people generally.
01:09:14
While Senator Clinton and Senator Warren, you acknowledged that Medicare for all that you couldn't get there right away. You got on the bill that said on page 8, which is why I didn't get on it, that you would kick one hundred forty nine million Americans off their current health insurance. Then a few months ago, you said, no, you're going to wait awhile to get there. And I think that was some acknowledgement that maybe what we're talking about is true.
01:09:38
And I don't buy that it's not enough. It is a big, big step to say to people making one hundred thousand dollars a year that your premiums will cut be cut in half, which is what the nonprofit public option will do. And if you talk mayor booted about Medicare and having negotiation, I actually have led that bill for years. I have 34 co-sponsors. As president, I can get it done. That would allow Medicare to finally negotiate and lift the ban that Big Pharma got into law that says they can't negotiate for better prices for seniors.
01:10:13
It's time to get it done. Senator Sanders coming to you now. CNN reached out to Iowa Democratic voters for their most pressing questions. Edward from here into Moore and writes, Des Moines is an insurance town. What happens to all the insurance industry, the health insurance industry here, if there is Medicare for all? What happens to all the jobs and the livelihoods of the people that live in insurance towns like Des Moines? We build into our Medicare for All program, a transition fund of many, many billions of dollars that will provide for up to five years.
01:10:50
Income and health care and job training for those people. But here is the issue. Tom Sawyer made the point a moment ago. We are now spending twice as much per person on health care as the people of any other country. That is insane. In some cases, 10 times more for prescription drugs. Why is that? Why is that? And the answer is the greed and corruption of the drug companies and the insurance companies. And if we want to do what every other major country on earth does and guarantee people health care is a human right, not a privilege.
01:11:27
You know what we have to do? We are finally going to have to stand up to the health care industry under this and hundreds of billions of dollars of waste and profiteering.
01:11:37
Let's just CYA. I just want to emphasize what Senator Sanders said. This is not a complicated problem between what Senator Warren and Senator Sanders said. It's clear there are two problems. We're spending way too much because corporations own the system and we're not negotiating against those corporations. And we've given tax cuts to the richest Americans and the biggest corporations for decades. That's all this is. We have corporations who are having their way with the American people. And people are suffering.
01:12:10
Senator Warren is right. This is cruelty for money in order to break this. We're going to have to break the corporate stranglehold and solve both the tax and the negotiating from. That's why I'm for term limits. We need to redo washing D.C. thing and actually taking back the government from the corporation. Thank you, Mr. Stier.
01:12:31
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, I would argue that the biggest breakthrough in recent time was us being able to do in our administration with five Republican, five Democratic presidents. Couldn't get done. And that is pass Obamacare. It was a big deal. Secondly, I would argue that the way you control drug prices is you limit what they can charge for those prices. You don't have to pay the price limit what they can charge. If, in fact, they charge more than we set the price for, they can.
01:12:58
They can in fact, we can. People can import from abroad. Assuming that it is it is it is safe. We in fact, it's only yellow. And we can, in fact, do all of this and still provide people the option to stay the roughly a hundred and fifty, 160 million Americans who like the negotiated plan that have with their employers, if they don't like it or the employer gets rid of it, they can buy into a Medicare plan in the Biden plan.
01:13:25
Let let's talk a little bit more about prescription drugs right now. Prescription drug prices in. Twenty eighteen Americans spent three hundred thirty five billion dollars on prescription drugs alone. That's about $60 billion more than they paid a decade ago. Senator Warren, you've called for the creation of a government run drug manufacturer that would step in if there is a drug shortage or a price spike. Why does it make sense for the government, for the government to manufacture drugs, especially when public trust in government is near historic lows?
01:14:01
So let's do this both ways. What I also said is I'm just going to use the power that is available and I will do what a president can do all by herself on the very first day. And that is lower the prices of certain prescription drugs. I will lower the price of insulin. We already have the legal authority with the president to do that. President just hasn't picked up and used it. I will lower the price of EpiPens of HIV AIDS drugs.
01:14:27
That's going to bring a lot of relief to a lot of families immediately. But, you know, there are a whole lot of drugs. About 90 percent of drugs that are not under patent. They're generic drugs. But the drug industry has figured out how to manipulate this industry, to keep gerkin, the prices up and up and up. So my view is let's give them a little competition. The government lets contracts for all kinds of things. They let contracts to build buildings.
01:14:52
They let contracts to build military weapons. Let's let the contracts out, put the contracts out so that we can put more generic drugs out there and drive down those prices. This is a way to make markets work, not to try to move away from the market. You don't have to even use price controls. The whole idea behind it is get some competition out there. So the price of these drugs that are no longer under patent drugs, which Senator Klobuchar.
01:15:22
Do you believe the government should be manufacturing drugs?
01:15:25
I am open to looking at it, but I would try these things first. Number one, I mentioned the Medicare negotiation. Number two, I have a plan. One hundred thirty seven things I've found that a president can do herself in the first 100 days without Congress that are legal.
01:15:43
And one of those things is that you can start bringing in less expensive drugs from other countries. Bernie and I had an. On this, we got 14 Republican votes on it. It was at midnight. They might have not known what they were voting for. But we got that. I now have an actual bill with Senator Grassley that does that and I have a bill to get out what Elizabeth was talking about, which is to stop generics from taking money from big pharmaceuticals to keep their products off the market.
01:16:12
The issue here is that there are two pharma lobbyists for every member of Congress that I think they own Washington. They don't own me. And as president, I will get this done.
01:16:23
We're going to turn now to child care, a huge expense for many new families and a problem that's especially acute in rural Iowa. We have another question from an Iowa Democratic voter. Mayor, but a judge, this is for you. Tiffany from Clive writes, As a young mom, I had to quit a job I love because child care costs were taking up two thirds of my income. Many families don't have the option of quitting a job because that little bit of income is needed.
01:16:48
That leads to families using whatever care they can find. And sometimes the results are deadly. As we've seen in Iowa over the last few years, how will you prioritize accessing quality, affordable child care in your first 100 days in office?
01:17:02
It makes no sense for child care to cost two thirds of somebodies income. We've got to drive it to 7 percent or below and zero for those families who are living in poverty. But this is happening to folks at every level of the income spectrum. Meet professionals who sometimes say that they're working in order to be able to afford child care, in order to be able to be working it, working it makes no sense and it must change.
01:17:30
And we shouldn't be afraid to put federal dollars into making that a reality. Subsidizing child care and making sure that we're building up a workforce of people who are paid at a decent level to offer early childhood education as well as child care writ large. We can do that. And until we do, this will be one of the biggest drivers of the gender pay gap. Because when somebody like the voter asking the question has to step out of the workforce because of that reason, she is at a disadvantage when she comes back in and that can affect her pay for the rest of her career.
01:18:04
Senator Warren, your education plan includes tuition free public college for all, but you impose an income limit for free childcare. Why do your plans cover everyone for public college but not child care and early learning? No, actually, my plan is universal child care for everyone. It just has some people adding a small payment. But understand this about the plan. I've been there. You know, I remember when I was a young mom, I had two little kids and I had my first real university teaching job.
01:18:36
I. It was hard work. I was excited, but it was child care that nearly brought me down. We went through one child care after another. And it just didn't work. If I hadn't been saved by my Aunt Bee, I was ready to quit my job. And I think about how many women of my generation just got knocked off the track and never got back on. How many of my daughters generation get knocked off the track and don't get back on how many mommies and daddies today are getting knocked off the track?
01:19:03
Never get back on. I have a two cent wealth tax so that we can cover child care for all of our children and provide universal pre-k for every 3 year old and 4 year old in America and stop exploiting the people who do this valuable.
01:19:20
Bought largely black and brown women. We can raise the wages of every child care worker and preschool teacher in America. That's an investment in our babies. That's an investment in their mommies and their daddies. And it's an investment in our teachers and in our economy.
01:19:37
Senator Sanders? Well, your universal child care program be free for everyone regardless of income.
01:19:43
Let me pick up on this child care thing. Every psychologist in the world knows zero through four of the most important years of human life. Intellectually and emotionally. And yet our current child care system is an embarrassment. It is unaffordable. Child care workers are making wages lower than McDonald's workers. We need to fundamentally change priorities in America. We should not be one of the few countries that does not have universal, high quality, affordable child care. We should not be one of the only major countries not to guarantee health care to all people as a human right.
01:20:20
We should not be spending 10 more than the 10 next countries on the military. Hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies for the fossil fuel industry, tax breaks for billionaires. And then tell the moms and dads of this country anywhere.
01:20:35
Likewise. That's right. And I'm trying to get it wrong. Vice President Biden infant care is more expensive than in-state public college tuition and more than half the country. Do you support free universal infant care?
01:20:49
You should be. Universe infant care. But here's the deal. You know, I was a single parent, too, when my wife and daughter were killed. My two boys and I had to raise I was a senator, a young senator. I just hadn't been sworn in yet. And I was making $42000 a year. I commuted every single solitary day to Warmington, Delaware. Over five hundred miles a day. She me two hundred fifty miles a day because I could not afford.
01:21:15
But for my family, childcare was beyond my reach to be able to do it. And that's why there's several things we do. When I triple the amount of my money for Title 1 schools, every child 3, 4 and 5 years old will in fact have full schooling. They'll go to school and after school programs which will release some of the burden. Secondly, I think we should have an $8000 tax credit which would put seven million women back to work.
01:21:41
They could afford to go to work and still care for their children as an $8000 tax credit. I also believe that we should, in fact, for people who in fact are not able to afford any of infant care, to be able to get that care. But is right. We have to raise the salaries of the people who are doing the care. And I provide for that as well. My time is up. I know, but I'm not going to go over like every mayor a Jed's.
01:22:07
Mayor Burt Adjudge higher education is another huge expense for families. You oppose free public college for all because you don't want to make it, quote, free for the kids of millionaires. But lots of public services are available to the kids of rich people like libraries and public schools. Why do you draw the line at public colleges and universities? Well, it's simple.
01:22:28
We expect and hope for everyone to get through 12th grade. It's not the same for college. Now, again, I don't want costs ever to be a barrier to somebody seeking to it can attend college. And under my plan, it won't be matter of fact. For the first 80 percent of Americans by income, it is free at public colleges. But if you're in that top income bracket. Don't get me wrong, I still wish you well. I hope you succeed when you go to college.
01:22:56
I just need you to go ahead and pay that tuition because we could be using those dollars for something else. There is a very real choice about what we do with every single taxpayer dollar that we raise, and we need to be using that to support everybody, whether you go to college or not. Making sure that Americans can thrive, investing in infrastructure and something that hasn't come up very much tonight but deserves a lot of attention. Poverty, you know, the poor people's campaign is marching on Iowa right now, calling on us to talk about this issue more.
01:23:28
They are driven by their faith. I think because even though in politics, we're supposed to talk middle class. They know there's no scripture that says as you've done under the middle class. So you've done under me. We've got to be making sure that we target our tax dollars where they will make the biggest difference. And I don't think subsidizing the children of millionaires and billionaires to pay absolutely zero intuition of public colleges is the best use of those scarce senators dollars.
01:23:53
So, look, the way I think we need to do this is we need a wealth tax in America. We need to ask people with fortunes above $50 million to pay more. And that means that the lowliest millionaire that I would tax under this wealth tax would be paying about 19 million dollars in the first year in taxes. If he wants to send this kid to public university, then I'm okay with that.
01:24:15
Because what we really need to talk about is the bigger economic picture here. We need to be willing to put a wealth tax in place to ask those giant corporations that are not paying to pay because that's how we build an economy. And for those who want to talk about it, bring down the national debt. You do universal child care and you get a lot of moms who can go to work. A lot of moms who can finish their education. We make that investment in universal college.
01:24:43
We've got. Thank you, Senator. Senator Klobuchar, Haitian.
01:24:45
Yeah. You know, I. I appreciate your thoughts, Elizabeth. But I want to step back. I actually think that some of our colleagues who on free college for all aren't actually thinking big enough. I think what we have to look at is how we connect our education system with our economy, where our job openings and what do we need. We are going to have over a million openings for home health care workers that we don't know how to fill in the next 10 years.
01:25:12
We are going to have open one hundred thousand jobs for nursing assistants. We as my union friends now, we're going to have over 70000 openings for electricians. We're not going to have a shortage of m.b.a.s. We're going to have a shortage of plumbers. So when we look at that, then we step back. Where should our money go? It should go into K-through-12. It should go into free 1 and 2 year degrees. Like my dad got like my sister going to CNN and double the Pell Grants because we're going to need for it causes our money go where it should go instead of to rich kids.
01:25:45
Going to Cussler satire as a billionaire said, your children have been entitled to free public college. No. And let me say this. I was one of the people who talked about a wealth tax a year, almost a year and a half ago. I believe that the income inequality in this country is unbearable, unjust and unsupportable.
01:26:06
And the redistribution of wealth to the richest Americans from everyone else has to end. And I proposed the wealth tax almost a year and a half ago to start to address it and to raise some of the money that we need. But I want to go beyond this and go back to this question about education, because we're talking a lot about college. But in fact, if you talk about the poor people's campaign, you have to realize that for the youngest kids, they are getting an education that's relative to the taxes in their neighborhoods.
01:26:34
We need to redistribute money. So every kid has a chance. So we're not legislating inequality for the next generation. And so we actually invest in every single kid, specifically poor kids, specifically black kids, specifically brown kids. We need to start using the money dramatically. More for that.
01:26:53
We'll be back with more from CNN's Democratic presidential debate live from Des Moines, Iowa. Senate launching the third trial of a U.S. president. The Republican led Senate has signaled that it is likely to acquit him. Vice President Biden. If you're the nominee, is it going to be harder to run against President Trump if he's been acquitted? Unable to claim vindication, especially after what he said about your family?
01:32:16
It's irrelevant. There's no option. There's no choice but to Nancy Pelosi in the House to move. He has, in fact, committed impeachable offenses, whether the Senate makes that judge renowned for them to decide. But and by the way, I'm told that, you know, we know that. I don't. I say we have to unite the country. It's going to be harder after this trial. It may be. But look, you know, I understand how these guys are.
01:32:42
This Republican Party, they've gone after Savage, my surviving son, gone after me, told lies at your networks and others won't even carry on to on television because they're flat out lies. And I did my job. The question is whether or not he did his job. And he hasn't done his job. And so it doesn't it doesn't really matter whether or not he's gone after me. I've got to be in a position that I think of the American people.
01:33:05
I can't hold a grudge. I have to be able to not only fight, but also heal. And his prison, United States. That's what I want him to do. Notwithstanding that, we're gonna be more division after he's defeated by me this next time.
01:33:18
Senator Klobuchar, you're going to be a juror in the trial in the Senate. That's about to start. Do you worry President Trump will be emboldened by acquittal? No.
01:33:29
We have a constitutional duty to do to perform here. And when I look at what the issue is, it's whether or not we're gonna be able to have witnesses. We've asked for only four people as witnesses. And if our Republican colleagues won't allow those witnesses, they may as well give the president a crown and a scepter. They may as well make him king. And last time I checked, our country was founded on this idea that we didn't want to be ruled by a king.
01:33:57
And I think the best way to think about this trial and what we're facing in this election is a story of a man from Prim Ghar, Iowa. His name was Joseph Wild's. She came from humble beginnings, a son of immigrants. He became the Army counsel and he was the one that went to the Joseph McCarthy hearings. And when McCarthy was blacklisting people and going after people because of their political beliefs are suppose that political beliefs. There was only one man.
01:34:25
Everyone that was afraid. They're afraid of being blacklisted. Joseph Welch, he stood up and looked at McCarthy and said, Have you no sense of decency, sir? Have you no sense of decency? This is a decency check on our government. This is a patriotism check. Not only is this trial that but also this election. And no matter if you agree with everyone here on this stage, I say that I think Americans are you know, this is a decency check on this president.
01:34:55
Mr. Stier, you've spent millions and millions of dollars telling the American people that President Trump deserves to be impeached. Will it have been worth it if he's been impeached but not removed from office?
01:35:09
Well, Wolf, actually, what I've done is to organize a petition drive of eight and a half million Americans to sign and say this president deserves to be impeached and removed from office. And those eight and a half million people have called their Congress, people have emailed their congresspeople, and they've actually dragged Washington, D.C. to see that, in fact, this is a question of right and wrong and not of political expediency. So if you ask me whether standing up for what's right in America, standing up for the American people and our safety, standing up for the Constitution, whether doing that and trying to bring the truth in front of the American people in televised hearings so we can decide what the truth is for ourselves.
01:35:52
If you think that that isn't worth it, then you don't share the idea that I do about what the America America's about standing up for. What's right is always worth it, Wolf. And I will never back down from that.
01:36:05
Senator Warren, a Senate trial is expected to keep you in Washington in the weeks leading up to the Iowa caucuses here. How big of a problem is that for you as you're making your closing pitch to voters here?
01:36:19
Some things are more important than politics. I took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. It says that no one is above the law. That includes the president of the United States. If we have an impeachment trial, I will be there because it is my responsibility.
01:36:37
But understand this. What that impeachment trial is going to show once again to the American people is something we should all be talking about, is the corruption of this administration. That's what lies at the heart of it. It is about Donald Trump putting Donald Trump first. Not. The American people, not the interests of the United States of America, not even in helping Ukraine defend against Russia. It is about him helping himself. That is what we need to do to win this election.
01:37:08
We need to draw that distinction and show that it's Democrats. We're not going to be the people who are just out for the big corporations, people who want to help themselves, that we are going to be the party that is willing to fight on the side of the people. That's why we're here.
01:37:23
Let's turn now to the climate crisis here in Iowa. Parts of this state remain underwater after record breaking flooding began last spring, racking up an estimated 2 billion dollars in damages. Today, many Iowans are still displaced from their homes. Mayor, but a judge, you've talked about helping people move from areas at high risk of flooding. But do you but what do you do about farms and factories that simply can't be moved?
01:37:48
That's why we have to fight climate change with such urgency. Climate change has come to America from coast to coast, seeing it in Iowa. We've seen it in historic floods in my community. I'd activate our emergency operations center for a once in a maleng flood. Then two years later, had to do the same thing in Australia. There are literally tornadoes made of fire taking place. This is no longer theoretical. This is no longer often the future. We have got to act.
01:38:20
Yes. To adapt, to make sure our communities are more resilient, to make sure our economy is ready for the consequences that are going to happen one way or the other. But we also have to ensure that we don't allow this to get any worse. And if we get it right, farmers will be a huge part of the solution. We need to reach out to the very people who have sometimes been made to feel that accepting climate science would be a defeat for them.
01:38:44
Whether we're talking about farmers or industrial workers in my community and make clear that we need to enlist, that may have been the national project to do something to clarify.
01:38:54
What do you do about farms and factories that cannot be relocated?
01:38:58
We are going to have to use federal funds to make sure that we are supporting those whose lives will inevitably be impacted further by the increased severity and the increased frequency. And by the way, that is happening to farms. That is happening to factories. And that disproportionately happens to black and brown Americans, which is why equity and environmental justice have to be at the core of our climate.
01:39:21
We may have to judge. Mr. Stier, what's your response? Look, what you're talking about is what's called managed retreat. It's basically saying we're going to have to move things because this crisis is out of control. And it's unbelievably expensive. And of course, we're going to come to the rescue of Americans, we're in trouble. But this is why climate is my number one priority. And I'm still shocked that I'm the only person on this stage will say this.
01:39:45
I would declare a state of emergency on day one on climate. I would I would do it from the standpoint of environmental justice and make sure we go to the black and brown communities where you can't breathe the air or drink the water that comes out of the top safely. But I also know this. We're gonna create millions of good paying union jobs across this country. It's going to be the biggest job program in American history. So I know we have to do it.
01:40:09
I know we can do it. And I know that we can do it in a way that makes us healthier, that makes us better paid and is more just. But the truth of the matter is we're gonna have to do it and we're gonna have to make the whole world come along with us and it's going to have their side already won.
01:40:24
Mr. Stier, to clarify, you say you're the climate change candidate, but you made your $1.6 billion in part by investing in coal, oil and gas. So are you the right messenger on this topic?
01:40:35
I absolutely am. Look, we invested in every part of the economy. And over 10 years ago, I realized that there was something going on that had to do with fossil fuels that we had to change. So I divested from fossil fuels. I took the giving pledge to give most of my money away while I'm alive. And for 12 years, I've been fighting the climate crisis. I've beat oil companies in terms of clean air laws. I've stopped fossil fuel plants in Oxnard, California.
01:41:02
I fought the Keystone pipeline. I have a history of over a decade of leading the climate fight. Same zest for life. So actually, yes, I am the person here who has the chops and the history that says I'll make it priority one because I've been doing it for a long time.
01:41:17
Thank you, Mr. Stier, Senator Warren. President Trump is rolling back major environmental rules to allow pipelines and other major infrastructure projects to be built without strict environmental review. Will you restore those protections? And in a way that the next president can't overturn. Yes. Of. Climate change threatens every living thing on this planet, and the urgency of the moment cannot be overstated. I will do everything a president can do all by herself on the first day of rollback, the environmental changes that Donald Trump is putting in place.
01:41:51
I will stop all new drilling and mining on federal lands and offshore drilling that will help us get in the right direction. I'll bring in the farmers. Farmers can be part of the climate solution. We should see this, though, for the problem. It is. Mr. Stier talks about it being problem number one. Understand this. We have known about this climate crisis for decades back in the 1990s. We were calling it global warming, but we knew what it was.
01:42:19
Democrats and Republicans back then were working together because no one wanted a problem. But you know what happened?
01:42:26
The industry came in and said we can make big money if we keep them divided and make no change. Priority number one has to be taking back our government from the corruption. That is the only way we will make progress on climate, on gun safety, on health care. Thank you, Senator Warner.
01:42:46
Issues that Senator Klobuchar, some of your competitors on this stage have called for an all out ban on fracking. You haven't. Why not?
01:42:55
Well, first of all, I would note that I have a 100 percent rating from the League of Conservation Voters, and that is because I have stood tall on every issue that we have talked about up here. When it comes to this administration, this Trump administration, trying to reverse environmentalists protections. I think it is going to lead to so many problems. And one thing that hasn't been raised, by the way, is the rules on methane, which is actually one of the most environmentally dangerous hazards that they have recently embarked on.
01:43:27
And I would bring those rules back as well as a number of other ones when it comes to the issue of fracking. I actually see natural gas as a transition fuel. It's a transition fuel to where we get to carbon neutral. Nearly every one of us has a plan that is very similar and that is to get to carbon neutral by 2045 to 2050 to get to by 2030 to a 45 percent reduction. And I want to add one thing that no one's really answered when we do this, we have to make sure that we make people whole.
01:44:02
And when we put a tax on carbon, which we will do it, there are through cap and trade or through a renewable electricity standard or through a fee on carbon Senate.
01:44:12
And we have to make sure that money goes back to the people that will be hurt by it. Thank you, Senator. Energy bills and to bring jobs to areas that will lose jobs.
01:44:21
Senator Sanders, thank you. Let's be clear. If we as a nation do not transform our energy system away from fossil fuel, not by 2050, not by 2040, but unless we lead the world right now. Not easy stuff. The planet we are leaving our kids will be uninhabitable and unhealthy. We are seeing Australia burning. We saw California burning. The drought here in Iowa is gonna make it harder for farmers to produce the food that we need.
01:44:58
This is, of course, a national crisis. I've introduced legislation to indicate it's a national crisis. We have got to take on the fossil fuel industry and all of their lives and tell them that their short term profits are not more important than the future of this planet. That's what the Green New Deal does. That's what my legislation does and that is what we have to do.
01:45:23
Vice President Biden, your response?
01:45:25
My response is back in 1986, I introduced the first climate change bill and check polluted facts. They said it was a game changer. I've been fighting this for a long time. I headed up the Recovery Act, which put more money into fossil moving away from fossil fuels to enter to solar and wind energy than ever has occurred in the history of America. Look, where we have to do is we have to act right away. The way we act right away is immediately.
01:45:52
If I'm elected president, I'll reinstate all the mileage standards that existed in our administration, which were taken down. This $12 billion gallons of gasoline, barrels of gasoline be saved immediately. And with regard to those folks who, in fact, are going to be victimized by what's already happened. We should be investing in infrastructure that raises roads, makes sure that we're in a position where we have that every new highway built as a green highway, every five hundred fifty thousand charging stations.
01:46:21
We can create this where I agree with Tom. We can create millions of good paying jobs. We're the only country in the world that's ever take great crisis and turn it into great opportunity. And one of the ways to do it is with farmers here in Iowa by making them the first group in the world to get to net zero emissions by paying them for planting and absorbing carbon in their fields right away.
01:46:44
There's more to say, but I know a key part of your mission in this primary is gonna be to prove to Democratic voters that you're strong enough to take on Donald Trump. Each of you face unique challenges in doing that. Mayor, Vintage Edge, you say you've had trouble earning the support of black voters because you're unknown, but you've been campaigning for a year now and polling shows you with next to no black support, support that you need in order to beat Donald Trump.
01:47:09
Is it possible that black voters have gotten to know you and have simply decided to choose another candidate?
01:47:15
The black voters who know me best are supporting me. That's why I have the most support in South Bend. It's why among elected black officials in my community who have gotten into this race by far, most of them are supporting me. And now, nationally, I'm proud that my campaign is co-chaired by a member of the Congressional Black Caucus and to have support right here in Iowa from some of the most recognizable black elected leaders for mayor, heart of Waterloo to former Representative Berry in Blackhawk County.
01:47:44
Now, the biggest mistake we could make is to take black votes for granted, and I never will. The reason I have the support I do is not because any voter thinks that I'm perfect. It's because of the work that we've done. Facing some of the toughest issues that communities can not from the luxury of of a debate or a television panel or a committee room. But on the ground, issues from poverty to justice in policing. I'm proud to say we've been nationally recognized for our work as a race informed city on delivering greater economic justice, that we have reduced use of force by leading the region in transparency around the use of force in policing.
01:48:24
Of course, there is a much longer way to go. In my community and around the country. But I will be a president whose personal commitment is to continue doing this work. Senator Sanders, you call yourself a democratic socialist. More than two thirds of voters say they are not enthusiastic about voting for a socialist. Doesn't that put your chances of beating Donald Trump at rest?
01:48:47
No. Wrong. And that is because the campaign that we are going to run will expose the fraudulent sea of who Donald Trump is. Donald Trump is corrupt. He is a pathological liar and he is a fraud. Now, when Trump talks about socialism, what he talks about is giving hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks and subsidies to the fossil fuel industry. Donald Trump is a business man, received eight hundred million dollars in tax breaks and subsidies to build luxury housing by democratic socialism says health care is a human right.
01:49:30
We're going to raise the minimum wage to fifteen bucks an hour. We're going to make public colleges and universities tuition free. We're going to have a green new deal and create up to 20 million dollars saving the planet for our children and grandchildren. We are going to take on the greed and corruption of the pharmaceutical industry and the insurance company. That is what democratic socialism is about. And that will win this election.
01:49:58
Mr. Stier, you've spent more than $100 million of your own dollars on television ads. How do you convince voters that you're more than just your money? Look, we know how Donald Trump is going to run for president. He's going to run on the economy. He's already told Americans last month in Florida. You don't like me and I don't like you. But you're all going to vote for me because the Democrats are going to destroy the economy in 15 minutes if they get in control.
01:50:29
So let's be clear. I started the business by myself in one room I inherited, didn't inherit a penny from my parents. I spent 30 years building that business into a multi-billion dollar international business. Then I walked away from it and took the giving pledge and started organizing coalitions of ordinary Americans to take on unchecked corporate power. But whoever is going to beat Mr. Trump is going to have to beat him on the economy. And I have the experience and the expertise to show that he's a fair and a fraud.
01:51:00
Look, Mayor Beat has three years as an analyst at McKinsey. I have 30 years of international business experience. I can beat Trump on the economy. We're going to have to beat him on the economy. And I look for. And I look forward to taking him down in the fall on the debate stage here.
01:51:16
Now, you demoted me as I was an associate. But that's OK. It was not it was not the biggest part of my career.
01:51:23
But I am ready to take on this president on the economy, because I am from the exact kind of industrial Midwestern community that he pretends to speak to and has proven to turn his back on and guided that community through a historic transformation when at the beginning of the decade I took office. We're described as a dying city. I'm ready to take on Donald Trump was because when he gets to the tough talk and the chest thumping, he'll have to stand next to an American war veteran and explain how he pretended bone spurs made him ineligible to serve.
01:51:55
And if and if he keeps trying to use religion.
01:52:00
If a guy like Donald Trump. Keeps trying to use religion to somehow recruit Christianity into the GOP. I will be standing there not afraid to talk about a different way to answer the call of faith and insist that God does not belong to a political party.
01:52:18
I am ready to take on this president on every senator. Call the Shah. Senator Klobuchar, you're pitching yourself as a practical candidate who can get things done. And even tonight, you've dismissed some of the ideas that are offered in this primary as pipe dreams. How are you going to inspire Democratic voters with a message of pragmatism? Are voters actually all Americans have seen now a number of years of a guy that has, I think, told over 15000 lies.
01:52:51
He is someone that literally has a rap sheet of divisive rhetoric. And I think what Americans want is something different. I am going to be able to stand across from him on that debate stage and say to my friends in Iowa, the Midwest is not flyover country for me. I live here.
01:53:11
I'm going to be able to look at him and say, you've treated these workers and farmers like poker chips for me. These are my friends and these are my neighbors. I'm gonna be able to look at him and say, you know what? You got 413 million dollars over the course of your career. That's how you built your fortune. And what I'm going to say is this. My grandpa worked fifteen hundred feet underground in the iron ore mine, save money in a coffee can in the basement to send my dad to a two year community college.
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That's my family trust. And when you have been given an opportunity like that, you go into the world not with a sense of entitlement. Donald Trump's Donald Trump. But with a sense of obligation.
01:53:55
Senator Warren, what do you say to voters who like your policies, but they're worried they will scare away swing voters? You need to win this race in November.
01:54:03
So I was born and raised in Oklahoma. I have three older brothers who are all retired and are all back there still. And two of my three brothers are Republicans. And sure, there are a lot of things we disagree on and we can take to our corners and do them. Democratic Republican talking points. But the truth is, there's a whole lot we agree on.
01:54:23
You know, my brother's just furious over Chevron and Eli Lilly and Amazon that are giant corporations make billions of dollars in taxes that make billions of dollars in profits and pay nothing in taxes. My brother said, don't get this. I have to pay my taxes. Somebody has to keep the roads paved and the schools open and pay for our defense. They understand that we have an America right now that's working great for those at the top. It's just not working for anyone else.
01:54:55
We have a chance to unite, unite as Democrats, but also with independents and Republicans who are sick of living in a country that's working great for the politicians that are taking the money. It's working great for the lobbyists. It's working great for the corporate executives. It's just not working for everyone else. I'm building the grassroots movement, leading the fight. We're going to make this America work for everyone else. That is how we're going to beat Donald Trump.
01:55:23
Vice President Biden, the eventual nominee, will face President Trump, who has no problem mocking people, using insulting nicknames, slinging mud and telling lies. The debate against him will make tonight's debate look like child's play. Are you prepared for that? I am prepared for that.
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Look, I've been the object of his affection now more than anybody else in this game.
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I've taken all the hits he can deliver and I'm getting better and the polls my going up. And by the way, I have overwhelming support from the African-American community, overwhelming more than everybody else in this operation. Number one. Number two, working class people. And where I come from in Pennsylvania, the places I come from in Delaware. I have great support. I have support across the board. And I'm not worried about taking on Donald Trump at all.
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And with regard to the economy, I can hardly wait to have a debate with him. Where I come from, the neighborhoods I come from, third real trouble. Working class people were middle class people in the middle class does well. Working class has a way up and the wealthy do well. But what's happening now? They're being clobbered. They're being killed. They now have in a situation where if they, the vast majority believe their children will never reached the stage that they read, they they've reached an economic security.
01:56:33
We and I love that debate because the American public is getting clobbered. The wealthy are the only ones doing well. Period. I'm looking forward to the economic debate.
01:56:43
We'll be right back with more from CNN's Democratic presidential debate live from Des Moines, Iowa. Stay right here. Time now for closing statements. You each have one minute. Senator Klobuchar, let's begin with you.
02:01:46
Donald Trump thinks this is all about him. I think it's about you. It's not about his resorts or his tweets or even his ego. It is about your health care. It is about your schools. It is about your lives and your future. So if you want to do something about racial justice and immigration reform and climate change and gun safety, we need a candidate who is actually going to bring people with her. I have won every race, every place, every time I have gotten the highest voter turnout in the country.
02:02:21
When I've led the ticket, I have passed more bills as the lead Democrat than anyone who's in Congress that's running for president. I believe that we need a president that's going to look out for you. It is easy to hurl insults. It is easy to draw lines in the sand and sketch out grand ideological sketches that will never see the light of day. What is hard is bringing people together and finding common ground instead of scorched earth. What is hard is the work of governing.
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So if you are tired of the extremes in our politics and the noise and the nonsense, you have a home with me. Join me at Amy Colobus sha dot com.
02:03:05
Mr. Starr. I know that Iowans are going to caucus within three weeks, and I want to tell you how I feel about the American people. Look, I played team sports my entire life. The bond between teammates is deep and emotional and full of love, and as far as I'm concerned, the American people are my teammates. And if there's one thing I will not permit, it is someone to run down the field and kick my teammate in the face.
02:03:32
And that is exactly what I've seen over the last seven years, traveling around this country, seeing these Republicans led by Mr. Trump, basically kicking the American people in the face. I am prepared to take on Mr. Trump on the debate stage and take him down on the economy. But I am asking for your support, because I know that if I'm if I'm going to be a good teammate to you and give you absolutely everything without any compromise, I need the support of you on caucus night so I can turn around.
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And together we can take back this country and together we can save the world.
02:04:08
They are buddies. Yes. This is our moment. This is our one shot to defeat Donald Trump and to do it by such a big margin that we send Trump ism into the dustbin of history, too. Well, we cannot take the risk with so much on the line of trying to confront this president with the same Washington mindset and political warfare that led us to this point. Viewer watching this at home and you were exhausted by the spectacle of division and dysfunction.
02:04:41
I'm asking you to join me to help turn the page on our politics. You're seeing the president boast about the Dow Jones, wondering whether any of that will ever get to your kitchen table. Join me. If you're a voter of color, feeling taken for granted by politics as usual. Join me if you're used to voting for the other party, but right now cannot look your kids in the eye and explain this president to them. Join me. We have a chance to change all of this.
02:05:09
If we can summon the courage to break from the past, that is why I am running for president. It is why I am asking you to caucus for me on February 3rd. And I hope that you will go to Pete for America Dotcom and join me in this effort. Senator Warren. So much is broken in this country. I sat here in the break and just made notes about many of the things we didn't get to talk about tonight, how the disability community is struggling for true equality, how gun violence and active shooter drills worry every mother in this country, how children are living in poverty and seeing their life chances shrink.
02:05:48
How trans women, particularly trans women of color, are at risk. Black infant mortality, climate change that particularly hits black and brown communities. People who are being crushed by student loan debt. Farmers who are barely holding on. People struggling with mental illness. And yet I come here tonight with a heart filled with hope. And it's filled with hope because I see this as our moment in history, our moment when no one is left on the sidelines.
02:06:17
Our moment when we understand that it comes to us to decide the future of this country. Our moment when we build the movement to make real change, hope and courage. That is how I will make you proud every day as your nominee and as the first woman president of the United States of America.
02:06:41
Senator Sanders led a good debate, but we haven't asked the major question. The major question is how does it happen in the richest country in the history of the world where half of all people are living paycheck to paycheck, trying to get by nine, 10 bucks an hour. How does it happen that when the top 1 percent owns more wealth than the bottom 92 percent, half a million people are sleeping out on the streets tonight? How does that happen in this great country?
02:07:11
We are the only major nation not to guarantee health care to all. How does it happen that we have a trial care system which is dysfunctional, a criminal justice system which is broken and racist, an immigration system that needs reform? This is the moment when we have got to think big, not small. This is the moment where we have got to have the courage to take on the 1 percent take on the greed and corruption of the corporate elite and create an economy and create a government that works for all of us, not just the 1 percent.
02:07:48
Thank you.
02:07:49
Vice President Biden character is on the ballot this time around. The American character is on the ballot. Not what Donald Trump is spewing out, the hate, the xenophobia, the racism. That's not who we are as a nation. Everyone in this country is entitled to be treated with respect and dignity. Every single solitary person has to have in a position that way. In fact, we treat them with decency. It's about fundamental, basic decency. We in the United States of America can put up with.
02:08:23
We can overcome four years of Donald Trump, but eight years of Donald Trump will be an absolute disaster and fundamentally change this nation. We have to restore America's soul. As I've said from the moment I announced it, is in jeopardy. Under this president of the United States, we lead the world when we lead by example, not by our power. We, in fact, have to regain the respect of the world in order to be able to change things.
02:08:49
Ladies and gentlemen, we are in a position right now. We have to remember who we are. This is the United States of America. There is not a single thing beyond our capacity to do if we do it together. Let's go do it. Candidates. Thank you very, very much. That concludes the first Democratic presidential debate of twenty twenty. The Iowa caucuses are only 20 days away. Tune in to CNN for continuing coverage of this presidential election.
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Anderson Cooper and Chris Cuomo pick up our coverage right now.