Wndyry plus subscribers can binge all episodes of Kill List early and ad-free. Join WNDYRY plus in the WNDYRY app or on Apple podcasts. There's one guy, and I only have his name and the city he lives in. How can I hire a killer to kill him? What if I told you that all over the world, there are hundreds of people with no idea that somebody wants them dead? I want her to be killed, but it should seem she is dead because of an accident, not by murder. Out there in the dark underbelly of the Internet, there is a secret kill list. Seeking house to be burned down with occupants inside. No survivors. And I can see it. I'm Carl Miller. I'm a journalist and author. And since 2020, I've been part of a team working in secret to stop people getting murdered. We're in the worst possible position, I could think. The world is on fire. We're in the middle of a global pandemic, meaning we can't leave our houses. We found ourselves in the middle of a live assassination market, and we don't even have any policy or moral guidance yet in terms of what we actually do.

I don't know, man. It looks like a big Pandora's box that we're opening. And once you open it, it's open, man. I don't think we can put it shut. It would become my job to tell complete strangers that someone has paid to have them killed. Hello there. Can I speak to Mr. Lee, please? Yes, it's me. Hold on. Hello, it's me. Who are you? This is the story of our mission to keep the people on the kill list safe. Just so tired. This is so draining. I mean, I haven't been able to sleep properly. Are you sure my Sean guy can keep doing this? Telling this story, I uncovered the darkest desires that people only reveal when they think nobody's watching. My biggest fear is that he's going to go so nuts that he's going to want to take himself out, but he's not going to let me live my life. It's like I'm in some horror movie. He's got weapons at home. If he's going to do something, he'll do it himself. I think he was ready to kill her. I think it was just a practical question for him at that stage. Kill List premieres on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening right now.

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