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Today is Wednesday, December 18th, and I don't even know what to say.

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I'm sorry that you're going through this. And I'm sorry that really, what I'm sorry that we're all going through through together is wait. Are you talking about the Bears?

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Yeah. I'm talking about the Bears.

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I don't know what to say. Okay.

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I don't know

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what to say. I'm sorry that they keep putting the fucking Bears on national television. Yeah. It's a

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it's they've beaten it all out of me. Like there's I couldn't have let me start with this. I could not have been more wrong with everything I said this summer. I've said it. I've I've I've copped to that many times.

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But let me just do it 1 more time just so that people hear it again. I could not have been more wrong. I got so excited. I got so hyped that things were gonna change. Nothing is going to change with this organization.

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It will always be this way. They will always be based on bad fundamentals and hoping to get lucky from time to time and nothing done the right way. And I I'm now officially worried that, like, Caleb Williams might be like, I need to just I need to be traded because I still have hope for Caleb Williams. He has looked bad. He he did not look good, on Monday night.

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But he also like, everything is broken. The offensive line is so much worse than I expected. The defense without Eberfluss is now, which is a very funny, like, twist, you know, knife twist that the defense was being held together by Eberfluss. Mhmm.

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Should that Eberfluss be coach of the year? Maybe.

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The I don't know how they ever won 4 games. This was supposed to be year 3 of a rebuild that was going to do things right way and change the course of this organization. It is nowhere close to that. It is closer to year 1 of the rebuild than it was than it is year 3. We've gone completely backwards.

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I don't know. There's nothing there's no path forward because the owners are gonna be the owners. George McCaskey sitting there staring, thinking in his head, like, oh, my mommy's gonna be so mad at me when I get home. She's gonna say she's so angry. These owners do not care about winning football games.

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They do not care about running an organization the correct way. They are a joke. They have all but ruined their golden goose because I think I speak for a lot of the fans where it's like this is this is just time and time again, we get to this point of the season where we're on a nationally televised stage and the team is an embarrassment, an absolute embarrassment. Top to bottom embarrassment. And I don't know how much more I can take it.

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I don't know how much more a lot of people can take it. And nothing's gonna change because now they're stuck with a spot where they need a coach. They have a GM who I like personally. I like Ryan Pohlz personally. I've I've made that clear.

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I don't think he's good for the job anymore, not only because the team has gone backwards, but it feels like he has no power. And, also, he was probably the person who hired Matt Eberflus and kept him around, and that is an egregious egregious miscalculation, especially to keeping him with Caleb Williams. Ryan Pohl should should go. And then with Ryan Pohl's gone, Kevin Warren is now in charge, and he's a fucking doofus. So I don't really know what to do.

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We need we should start we should start fresh. They should fire Ryan Pohlz and Kevin Warren and start completely fresh. They won't do that. They'll either keep Ryan Pohlz and Kevin Warren, fire Ryan Pohlz, keep Kevin Warren, and it's just gonna be a mess. And nothing's ever gonna change.

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And I told Max in in memes this earlier. I'm officially retiring from ever getting to a 10 out of 10 excitement for the Chicago Bears until something changes.

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What changes?

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Because anything Ownership, probably.

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Anything could change.

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We we were talking about it. This summer, I was a 10 out of 10 excited. I will not let myself get a 10 out of 10 excited. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna root really hard for them and want them to do well. I'm not going to get let myself get 10 out of 10 excited ever again until it's proven on the field that something has changed.

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So, like, Max said, what if you hire Vrabel? My response would be, that's that's good.

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Yeah. Right. It would be what about Ben Johnson? That seems good. You hire Mike Vrabel to coach the defense and Ben Johnson to coach the offense.

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For the Bears? For the Bears.

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Oh, that's pretty good. See? I just went to Pretty.

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That's set.

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Start 7 and o next year?

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We'll see. It probably won't last. Lovey Lovey's last year, I think we started 7 or 8 and 1. What if he start off a cliff?

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5 and 2 this year. No. Pretty good.

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They almost did start 5 and 2.

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Yeah. I know. That that was mean

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for me.

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I know

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what he was doing.

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What if, what if you got a new stadium done and it's perfect?

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I mean, Kevin Warren is not gonna do shit. God's a fucking doofus.

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What if, and Ryan Pohlz

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is not I mean, he this roster is so bad. Like, it's I thought they were so much better. I was blinded. I'm stupid. I'm a moron.

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I'm wrong. Weapons, but no offensive line. Defensive line's bad. Coach sucked. Caleb's a rookie quarterback.

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He's been up and down. The even the littlest thing of firing Matt Eberflus, which I wanted. And you had 3 games in a row where you had fired Shane Waldron, Thomas Brown had went upstairs to BOC. Caleb had looked good in those 3 games. It was the packers, the vikings, and the lions game.

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So there was it was obviously hit or miss. The first half of the lions game, not great. But he had he had had moments where it looked like ball getting out faster. Everything's kinda looking a little bit better. Then they put, Thomas Brown on the sideline.

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I don't know if that matters, but it feels like you had 1 thing that was going a little bit well, a little bit well, not even good, a little bit well, and you changed it.

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Okay. What if you hire Ben Johnson, Mike Vrabel, Jameis Winston backup quarterback?

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Oh, that's nice.

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If you score in the first half. Oh, wow.

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That won't that won't that won't stay.

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You trade for Kyle Shanahan.

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We haven't scored in the first half in fucking years.

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What if the Bears said we heard a real smart idea out there from our friend big cat via Troy Aikman via Mike Florio, and we traded for Kyle Shanahan. He's now our head coach, and he's bringing Trent Williams.

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Whatever. It's fine. We'll see how it happens.

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This is bad.

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This is sad. I've never seen you down. No. Because I I the biggest mistake I made was getting excited when nothing has changed. Structurally, foundationally, essentially, the the the the foundation of the house has been decaying and rotting for a very, very long time, and it's been going especially fast since George McCaskey took over the team.

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And what happened this summer is the the rotting house with termites, they got a new paint job. And I was like, holy fuck. This house looks incredible. This is gonna be the greatest house ever. I can't wait to live in it.

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And then I got in it, and the wall and the and the floor started falling. And I fell through the floor, and I was like, this sucks. It's the same as same as it always was. So And

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you fell into the termite now.

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Yeah. I'm now I'm now I've been hurt enough where it's just like, dude, just just be just realize that unless there's sustained change and sustained progress on the field, if they put together multiple winning seasons in a row under this ownership, then maybe I'll be like, oh, something's different. But even 1 year of winning in a row or 1 year of winning under this ownership probably won't last because they'll fuck it up.

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So you're not even excited with 1 winning season?

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No. Because they'll fuck it up long term. That's what they do. They it is it is broken from top to bottom. We gotta I mean, fucking Doug Kramer again.

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How do we do that again?

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Yeah. Not being told to report is eligible. You're in

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the backfield, dude. Yeah.

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You get put your job. Here's your job. You stay on the sidelines, and then they tell you occasionally on a goal line, sprint onto the field because you're gonna play offensive line here or you're gonna play full back here. To not go up to the ref and report, that seems it seems ridiculous.

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Jalen Johnson, who is 1 of the, like, last guys who cares and is really good on this roster, They forgot to put the c on his chest on Monday Night Football. They just like, oh, yeah.

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That was just a a error in the An oversight?

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Yeah. The only guy who deserves to be captain, you took his captainship away accidentally. They're just they're an they're a non serious organization that has no attention to detail. Not like, it just doesn't run the way an organization should. Listen.

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I hope they get a good head coach. I will be rooting for them to get a good head coach. I'm just not going to let myself get 10 out of 10 excited until something major changes. And I'll get 6 out of 10. You'll say, I'm I'm it's not it's not like I'm changing how I'm rooting.

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It's just changing how I'm I'm thinking optimistically about the future. I will never let myself get optimistic about the future in a way that I got this past summer.

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Yeah. The problem with shitty owners is that they're very good at instilling hope in people, and they do that in a variety of ways. They usually get people that are very excited to step into different jobs, whether that's head coach or in the front office, team president, GM, whatever it is. You can you get excited about those people in the short term because they seem different. They seem like they know what they're doing.

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They seem like they have it all put together. But at the end of the day, you feel bad for those people that take those jobs because they realize what you've always known, which is this is an impossible job to succeed at. Yeah. It's impossible. You can you can go into it with the best plans that you have.

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But at the end of the day, there's gonna be something over your head that's fucking you up the entire time until that thing is gone. Then those good hires that you make I I still think Ryan Pohl's was a good hire to make. I think there are a lot of teams that would probably like to have Ryan Poles working for them. I don't know if he'll get a GM gig next if he does leave the Bears, but he'll be back in the front office, work his way back up. But he was a qualified candidate.

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He was a good candidate. And guys like those, they will continue to be hired by the Bears at times and then continue to not be able to do their job, not be allowed to do their job.

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I mean, he he also I mean, he had he had 3 year rebuild, and we're we're nowhere we're nowhere close to a rebuild.

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Your offensive line was so bad last night.

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So bad. So bad. And Caleb's been bad. I'm not I'm not gonna say, oh my god. Everyone's fault.

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Well, they are faulting Caleb as an organization. But Caleb, I think he's I'm I'm worried that this has now, like, gotten in his head because he's getting sacked so many times. He's scared to like, that 1 where Ro Madunce was open in the middle of the field, that was just Justin Fields' miss Trubisky flashbacks. Where it's like this is happening again.

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Caleb needs to get his groove back. Here's this advanced statistics for you here. Manalytics. Caleb Williams with painted fingernails, 43. Without painted fingernails, 0 and 7.

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Yeah. He needs to paint his

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fingernails again. He he lost his mojo. It's like when you see the killer whale in captivity and their fin is drooped over.

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Yeah. It just all sucks. I don't know what else to say. It all sucks. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna stop rooting as hard as I root.

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I'm just going to stop letting my hopes ever get up again. That's the difference. That's where the change is.

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And a lie. Why? Because because I mean, we'll we'll revisit this in in, I don't know, August or whenever they hire a new coach and then, you know, there's some good reports out of camp.

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So when I say pretty good, we'll see. Will you be upset if I say we'll see? No. Not at all. Okay.

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I mean, it will be boring, but I think I have to do that. I have to do that for my own mental health. I have to say we'll see.

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We will be revisiting this clip. That's a promise.

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This is post lost clarity that he has. Correct.

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But this has also been, like it's just years years of this bullshit. And it's like, that game on Monday Night Football was a game I've seen a 1000000 times. It's flashbacks to just, like, you know, the end of the trust and error when they were on a Monday Night Football game and they were just ripping everyone. And then I I went to this game. I was telling Eddie and those guys were at the game, and they asked me if I wanted to go.

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And I was like, no. I've been to that game. I went to Mitch Trubisky, John Fox's last game as a Bears head coach when Mitch Trubisky was a rookie, and we got killed by the Vikings. I was at the game in Minnesota. Like, this game happens every year.

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So I just it's over. Vikings are great. Vikings keep rolling. Vikings are Kevin O'Connell is just he's coach of the year in my opinion. He's I mean, think about what he's done.

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He we all think he made Kirk Cousins what they win 11 games that year. Last year, obviously, things fell apart. He kinda tread water with Josh Dobbs. This year, Sam Darnold, who's been thrown, to the trash pile a few different times, he's made him playing at elite level. Like, this is why in a weird way, I know that we talked about the Sam Darnold situation last week.

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Like, what do you do with Sam Darnold? I don't think they can make a mistake because they have Kevin O'Connell. Yeah. I think Like, JJ McCarthy will be fine because Kevin O'Connell's the coach. Yeah.

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But I I still think you gotta keep Sam. I think you have to keep Sam. How much better could Sam Darnold be playing right now than than he already is? Like, how how much better

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It's money. Would it be

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what we're talking about? But let's just say he keeps playing like that

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Yeah.

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He's worth that money.

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Right. But the the the argument the counterargument is JJ McCarthy is getting paid $1,000,000 a year because he was he's a rookie. Right. And you could beef up everything else in all the other holes, and that's how you win a Super Bowl. But I listen.

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I I

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mean as good as he looked in the in the preseason to expect that he would be able to step in and play at the same level Sam's playing at next year. Like, he might be very good. We don't know. But, like, Sam has played to the peak of his ability this year with, like, 1 or 2 exceptions.

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Yeah. It's just a rookie contract deal that you're trying to win on that window. I just I wouldn't take that chance. I think Kevin O'Connell is just so good that it doesn't matter. And, yes, Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings GM were hired in the exact same cycle as Ryan Pohl's and Matt Eberforce.

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He is a very good coach.

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Like, a week after. Like, the Bears made the first move.

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Alright. You don't I'm just you you're a contact. You don't know NFL details. Now you do? It's context.

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I'm just providing context.

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Memes are just saying that exact stat back here.

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Can you

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read it off, memes?

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I

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got 5 to 3.

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It wasn't a week after.

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The bears hired yeah. It was it was both things happened. Bears did the first move,

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then

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the Vikings counter move was a better GM and a better head coach.

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Oh, Cody Bellinger got traded to the Yankees, breaking moves? What did he get traded for? Probably nothing because they wanna get rid

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of his cash. I don't see any details on there.

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Do we click it again? Let's see. Full trade. Cash. I was right about that.

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Cash. Go to cash to the New York Yankees. Right hand reliever, Cody, Poteet. Poteet goes to the Cubs. Yep.

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Cash. There you go. Poteet. Okay. So Cash.

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I have the tweet. Cash. Okay. Go ahead, memes.

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A timeline. January 25th, 2020.

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The most animated memes has ever been.

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I mean, I can't get mad because I listen. I ever I I make fun of other teams. This is memes you deserve this. The timeline.

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The timeline. January 25, 2022, Bears hire Ryan Poles. January 26, 2022, Vikings hire Quisai Adafe Mensah.

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Mhmm.

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Probably fucked that up. January 27, 2022, Bears hire Matt Eberflus.

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Mhmm.

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January 16, 2022, Vikings hire Kevin O'Connell. Damn.

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Do you know what's probably gonna happen if I had to guess? Is that we're going to do the head coaching interviews, and they're gonna be like, hey, are you comfortable with Ryan Pohlz? And and the person's gonna lie and be like, because they want the job. They're gonna be like, yeah. That's fine.

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And then we're gonna fire Ryan Pohlz next year. And then so that way, everything's then the coach has to fire hire the new GM.

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And then the new GM comes in and has to fire the new coach Yeah. After, like, a year.

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Yeah. The The the

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the new coach isn't his guy.

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We we knew we knew we were careening into a the timeline is fucked up last year, and we didn't change it. And we're doing it again this year where it's like you can just change everything, the GM and coach, and, they won't do it. And, again, I like Ryan Pohlz a lot as a guy. I just think that this has gotten so far away from him, and this roster has gotten so far away from where I I there's some mistakes that you just happened, but there's I mean, you just you can't have ever thought, like, in retrospect, this offensive line was ever competitive.

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Yeah. If you had to put your finger on it, what's the biggest problem? Big cat is the GM. What if you're the GM? 10 out of 10?

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Yeah. So you'd be back?

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No. Oh, if I'm the GM? Yeah. If I'm the GM, I try to woo Virginia McCaskey. Like, sleep with her?

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Yep. Okay. Then we have a child. Okay.

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I don't think she can do that anymore.

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Okay. So then we adopt a child. And yes. Okay. So Virginia McCaskey and I get married.

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Uh-huh. Sorry to my wife and kids. I'm gonna have to get divorced for the better of the bears. For the city. For the city.

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So Virginia McCasky and I, we get married. Beautiful marriage. Wonderful marriage. And then I say to Virginia, hey, Ginny. That's what I call her.

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Hey, Ginny. That's hot. I'm thinking about adopting. And she says, okay. We should adopt.

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And then we adopt Theo Epstein, and he saves the Bears.

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I like that.

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You like that?

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Yeah. Or you could adopt, like, 7 homeless pit bulls and just lock her in a room with them.

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Listen. Very nice lady. Is she? Sure. She doesn't let people 101.

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I don't know if she could do anything mean.

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Yeah. Old people didn't do anything bad. Yeah.

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That's true.

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Here's the thing. She she is a quiet lady.

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I don't even know if she talks.

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She doesn't let people wear bears jerseys or uniforms or or logos or merchandise Yeah. In her box. She I think she might have the worst box in the NFL.

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It's an all time fumble of a bag. Like, you you fumbled the organization that was was that that papa bear bought for, you know, a bushel of blueberries Mhmm. And and a and a 5¢ piece. Yep. And, now we're here.

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So whatever. I don't wanna talk about it anymore. I I'm just no more 6 out of 10. 6 out of 10 is as high as I'll go in the excitement meter.

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Since I'm being tagged in it, I will respond to, to a question out there.

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Oh, great.

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Friend of the program, Ryan Fitzpatrick.

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Mhmm.

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He was, he was on x.com, the everything app. It's all happening on x.

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I saw that.

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And I saw this.

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Do you

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see that? It said name something worse than being a Bears fan. And his response was being friends with a Bears fan and having to listen to them complain about the Bears. I wanna say that's not worse than being a Bears fan. Yeah.

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Also, like, I can confirm that it it's not worse.

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My complaints are why a lot of people listen to the show. The sickos and perverts are loving the complaints right now. Hank is having the best time ever.

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Hank, can you please remind PFT what happened that they basically lost to the Bears?

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They did. I mean, that's Commies are good there in the playoffs.

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Wait. What?

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I mean, you're wait. Wait.

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Wait. Wait. Wait. But what you just you love

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to do this, like, I'm bigger I'm bigger than you. No. No. No. No.

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You basically lost to this team.

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I'm not doing them bigger than him. This this has nothing

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to do

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with the Commander.

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Much bigger

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than him.

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This has nothing

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to do

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with the commanders.

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No. He And no 1 wants I've said he's

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been through the whole new ownership new ownership phase.

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Yeah. Because guess what? I fucking lived it

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for Yeah. Now if he's in the playoffs.

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No. No. It it is true. When you I I I experienced it directly that

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you have a fucked

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up owner that no matter what happens, they fuck everything else up. It's true. That's not me being bigger then. That's me just saying something that's the truth. Max, what was that about you asking Hank to

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ask me? Hank has been 1 to say that the commander's basically lost to the bears.

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But why why didn't you talk to the bears, though?

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We're not talking

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to the

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talking about the commanders. Also, I know

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multiple times over and over and over again on the record. No 1 wants to be the well, no 1 wants the bears to be more successful than me.

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Yeah. Mhmm. I also I want the Bears to be good. I also don't hold any resentment towards Jaden Daniels, Drake May, Bo Nix, Michael Penix, JJ McCarthy because I really do firmly believe that no matter what the draft order went, it would have ended exactly here. It would have ex ended exactly here.

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You could have given us Drake May. You could have given us Jaden Daniels. You could have given us Bo Nix. It would have we would have been doing this exact same conversation because that's what the Bears do. That's what they do.

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This is the 3rd time in fucking 7 years. It's insane. It's crazy. 6 years. It's crazy.

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Is

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it okay if I agree with that, Max, or would that be being bigger than big cat?

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No. You can agree. You can agree. It's it's it's Eagles Commanders Week. I'm I'm on I'm on Commanders Alert.

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Okay.

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Respect. I'm on Commanders Alert. Respect. Alright.

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So the Vikings are great. Also, the the good news is for, falcons fans, we like, I feel like the a team was on the bears, vikings, and no 1 watched 1 of the most horrific games ever played. That game was so bad. I didn't wanna watch either game. Both games were awful.

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But the vikings and falcons game was like, if, there was 2 blocked punts, There was penalties everywhere. Kirk Cousins looked so bad. Desmond Ridder almost had a chance to win the game at the end. Yeah.

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He had a drive where he could've got it done. There was an egregious roughing the passer call.

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Yep. It was it that was a horrific, horrific game played. So I yeah. Bad bad Monday night football. Mhmm.

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Bad bad Monday night football. Vikings are really good, though. Vikings are playing for the 1 season.

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Yeah. But, again, watching bad football, it's a deposit into the bank. Yeah. And you always get reward. We did that last Thursday.

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What do we get? We got Bills, Lions

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on Sunday.

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It was

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a great game. Could have been better. It was a great game.

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Yeah. I mean, it was never really in doubt.

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It was a great game, though.

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It was a great game. It was a fun game. Did you guys agree? I mean, this is I I feel like I've stayed consistent. I didn't like the Vikings uniforms.

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I've been consistent. I said it with the packers. The I'll just say it. The the fucking a the NFC North and the AFC North, I'll actually say the NFC East as well. I'll throw them in there.

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Trying to think what other divisions. Maybe the AFC East. Those divisions shouldn't do weird uniforms.

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The Bills are just wearing Patriots'

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teams this weekend. That is weird.

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They're wearing the the white helmets, the red jerseys.

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Yeah. Like, do the The original. Why did that

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game get flexed in the prime time?

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I don't fucking know. And then It is. And then the next into the it's it's 4 o'clock, and then

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next week, we're playing on Saturday. Oh, I just don't think traditional, teams should do any types like, the purple helmets. If it was the white jerseys and the purple helmets, I'd be fine. Purple helmets are iconic.

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Yeah. I agree with you. Listen. It it was it was a weird look tuning into it. It was it was just bad football last night.

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It's okay. We can turn the page on bad football.

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Yeah.

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Bad presentation. Everything was just rotten. Kirk Cousins, after the game was over, though, they they were talking to him on the sidelines. They were like, how, you know, how do you feel about this? He's like, you know, it's hard to win this league, yada yada yada.

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And, and so how do you feel about your play, Kirk? And it looked like he was gonna cry. Oh. I thought Kirk Cousins was going to cry because he was clearly, I'm not playing up to my standard. I think I think they might make a change.

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I think so too.

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It might be Pennock's time.

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Yeah. I mean, why not? Yeah. You're you're you're on the outside looking in, and the Bucs have a pretty easy schedule coming up, where I think they finish with the saints and the panthers, and they play the cowboys on Sunday night. I don't I think the Bucks like, if the Bucks went out, they obviously win the division.

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They're up a game. Yep. So maybe you wait 1 more week and see if you you you know, you're 2 games out, and then you're like, alright. Let's try it with Michael Pinnick's, but I agree. Time for the future.

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There's something wrong with Kirk. I don't know what it is. Yeah. Maybe he just got old.

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He's looked bad. He's looked bad.

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But then we laughed at the Falcons on draft night. It might have been a good move.

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Yeah. Might have been a good move. He's gonna be better than Kale Blooms. Everyone is. And then Kale Blooms, I think, actually will go somewhere else and be awesome.

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I still believe in him. I still I'm never gonna stop believing in him. Max, can we get an update on your foot? Foot's it was a

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good update. Went went to the foot doctor.

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Mhmm.

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I'm in a walking boot. I still can't walk without crutches, but, my doctor said, eventually, within the next couple weeks, I will be able to just use the walking boot, which is big.

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Okay.

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So Nice.

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And then no surgery?

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He said

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You're not an athlete?

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Very, very minimal chance that I need surgery.

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Did you tell him that you were an athlete?

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I would think, like, less than 1%. I did not tell him.

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How how long till you get out of your your your

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I think you could tell.

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How long till you get

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out of your boot?

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I get reevaluated in a month.

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And do you say you could possibly be out then?

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Yeah. Possibly.

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Oh, that's huge. Possibly. You need to get you need to get out of that boot for Super Bowl. I think you can rebreak it on Bourbon Street.

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Don't that was

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so Right before the Eagles Super Bowl.

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I mean,

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that was so fucked up that you just said that.

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Oh. Have you given your walking boot a voice?

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I've not.

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Does it sound like Hey, Max. Hey, your stinks. Your sticky little toes are sounding Hey,

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Max. You're gonna get

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so excited. Oh, Italy is a boot. Yeah. You got the you got the entire country of Italy on your foot. Hey,

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Max. Look. Why don't you get a couple why don't you get a couple of meatballs? Put some meatballs in your sake. Warm up your your toesies with some meatballs and some sauce.

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Yep. Walking boot.

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Yeah. You gotta get out of it before a Super Bowl.

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Why?

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Because it will suck to be on in New Orleans in a boot.

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You don't wanna you don't is that specifically because you think I'm gonna break it again?

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No. I want you to be out of the boot for the Super Bowl. I wanna see

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you walking up those stadium steps bootless.

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Yeah. Feeling good in the pants. Yeah.

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We got a lot of football.

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I don't want you to

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have a night caught your

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so much football.

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I don't want you to have to cut your pants.

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Vikings are good.

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Vikings are very good

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because we're tough to climb up a a greased up light pole with with a walking boot on, Max.

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Yeah. Vikings are really good.

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I do have 1 of my pant legs cut right now.

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It looks good. Yeah. People are.

[00:31:02]

Max, do you wanna say anything about Nick Sirianni, getting alpha ed by the d line coach?

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No. That's just, like, the culture and that all the coaches feel comfortable enough to go up and have that conversation

[00:31:17]

Yeah.

[00:31:18]

With Nick Sirianni. Leader of men. The way that he coaches his guys is that you can do that, and then you can go back the next day and everything's alright because it's like brothers. Yeah. Yeah.

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So when brothers fight

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Mhmm. But

[00:31:28]

it's at it's at the end of the day we're brothers and common goal of championships.

[00:31:33]

You see that all the time in Lions games. Yep. All the assistant coaches going up to Dan Campbell looking like they're gonna strangle him, being like, you better get the fuck away from Dan.

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Of all the Super Bowls that Dan Campbell and the Lions

[00:31:43]

have won.

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Oh, okay. By the way, Dan Campbell, I did love his speech.

[00:31:47]

Oh, it was so good.

[00:31:47]

I mean, the Lions we have David Montgomery now out for the year, which is crazy. Like, we knew the defensive injuries, and they just added David Montgomery on that.

[00:31:56]

I think he'll be back for the playoffs though. Correct?

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I don't know. I don't think so. I think he has a torn PCL.

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I that could have been me reading pro football doc.

[00:32:03]

I think they're getting some of their linebackers back maybe, but it's it's a bad scene. But Dan Campbell went on a radio show and and he pumped everyone up. I don't know if you can find the clip, but it listen. The lions are there have been teams that have gotten this many injuries. The lions have a significant amount of injuries.

[00:32:23]

I I I have the stat. I don't wanna be like, I I I see the constant tug and pull of lions fans being like, put our injuries. Everyone's like, well, you're the first team to get ever get injured. Give lions fans a little bit of, give them a little leeway because they do have an insane amount of injury. I'm gonna stick

[00:32:43]

to them the same way I thought of the the Ravens from, like, 2 seasons ago. Yeah. Remember that when they they got so banged up that even their mascot tours ACL? Yeah. That was a bad season, and you can remember that Ravens team for being good, very good, but also, yeah, but injuries.

[00:32:57]

Yeah. So the, 8 lions that are out for or that are on IR on the defense rank, among the top 40 defenders in total EPA. No other team has more than 2 in the top 40, and 52% of Detroit's defensive starters or direct backups are on IR. Yeah. That's a lot.

[00:33:17]

Hear hearing Dan Campbell talk about it, though, it did make me buy back into the Lions. Yeah. Of course. He was he was like, you know what? We we got by on eating moldy bread for a long ass time.

[00:33:26]

Now we're used to filet mignon. Guess what? That moldy bread was good for us. Yeah. We got through it.

[00:33:30]

I think he said we got new guys. We're gonna cut them loose. Yeah. So if they're gonna cut them loose

[00:33:34]

If we give up 700 yards and win by 1, you'll see me smiling ear to ear. Yeah. He's the 1 you'd wanna go to battle with with this

[00:33:40]

type of stuff. I have another question for Max. Max, do you think that Jalen Hertz has pretty privilege?

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I saw that. You

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see the What is this?

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Yes. Dominic Foxworth said that Jalen Hertz has pretty privilege. There's also another clip of he's interviewing I don't know if it's his wife or his daughter or something, but he he's interviewing another woman, and they're talking about how beautiful Jalen Hertz is. And he's upset by the woman talking about how beautiful Jalen hurts is. Yeah.

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It's like hot chicks hate when guys are I wish I knew I was

[00:34:15]

so hot. I just knew this was gonna get brought up, but I wish I got more information on that follow-up because it did it did make me laugh because it it made it seem like he just hates Jalen Hurts because someone in his life thinks that he's hot.

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Thinks that, oh, so the the clip you saw was Foxworth interviewing somebody in his family. I This is like it's like

[00:34:34]

could be an egregious count of fake news.

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It it's like David Tepper and his wife going out to dinner with CJ Stroud. She loves CJ Stroud, so he's like, I'm gonna draft Bryce Young.

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Kinda. Kinda like that. Or it could have just been, like, a random person that he was interviewing.

[00:34:51]

Your mic just cut out? No.

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I did that by accident. But, yeah, this is it. Yeah. It's his wife. He's mad that his wife is thirsting for can I play the clip?

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Play the clip.

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This is the pretty poor

[00:35:02]

fumble or

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Whose tits was being pushed?

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Hey, it was only too second.

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Oh, I was Jeremy.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. Yes. Yes.

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That's very cool. So when Foxworth brings that up, he's there's there's some beef there.

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Yes. Yes. That's what I that's the information that I gathered, so I didn't take it too seriously.

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Do you think that Jalen Hertz is pretty?

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Yeah. He's handsome as hell.

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I said pretty.

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I didn't say pretty privilege.

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Yeah. No. He's handsome, pretty, all the above.

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I wish he acknowledges privilege sometimes. We don't all get the same treatment that he gets.

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That's true.

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Is it true? Listen. Hot quarterbacks like Josh Allen and Big Ben, you know, they they get treated differently. You think the media would be nicer to Jake Haynor? He should have pretty privilege.

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Yeah. Memes just AI'd me so much on memes is on an AI binge right now.

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Yes.

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You said Jake Kaner just reminded me. He's he's on a generational run of AI.

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AI. He really is. And, also, Max, remember, like, maybe 6 months after you started on the show, you made the mark the remark that, memes is obsessed with me. Memes is obsessed with you. Yeah.

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You're right. That's a fact.

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I looked at the light again.

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Alright. We we have the best booth in the biz, guys.

[00:36:20]

We do. We do. We absolutely do. Should we kick it to ourselves? I gotta I gotta process this Cody Bellinger try.

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I feel like if they did the money for more Kyle Tucker money, then it makes sense. Otherwise, the Cubs are just cheap.

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So wait. Did the money go to the Yankees?

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No. The Yankees are paying the Cubs. Is that what it was? Yeah. The Yankees trade cash.

[00:36:40]

I'm also I've also seen a couple tweets now that said I would like to buy Cody Petit stock.

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Oh, okay.

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So that Great.

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Good. Good. Let's go.

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That that could be good for you.

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Cubs are back.

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That's all I really

[00:36:50]

need to see. The Cubs are gonna go with just, like, hopefully, Kyle Tucker hits 45 home runs. No. Big hit Suzuki hits, like, 30, and and we we win every game to nothing.

[00:37:00]

It says Cody Bellinger and Cash go to the New York Yankees. Oh, we're paying? So you're you're paying the Yankees

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Oh, shit. Million. That's what I it's

[00:37:08]

Oh, but we're not we're not we're getting out of 20,000,000. Correct.

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You're saving money

[00:37:13]

on

[00:37:13]

You're only in

[00:37:14]

the long term.

[00:37:14]

You're only giving 5.

[00:37:15]

Yeah. Yeah. Good investment.

[00:37:16]

Yeah. That's according to Bob Nightingale, which is Cheap. Cheap. Fucking cheap. Which is you know?

[00:37:21]

Yeah. Who knows? Okay. Let's kick it to ourselves. We got hot seat cool throne, and then we got great 2 interviews coming up.

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Love Coors Light.

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Holiday season. Yeah. It's holiday parties, ugly sweaters.

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I've got a, I got a Coors Light that's out on my deck, and I use it to monitor the temperature depending how blue the mountains are.

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I love that.

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Last week, the bluest mountain I've ever seen in my life. It was like an Eves Klein blue. It was perfect.

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My hot seat is Chris Hanson in NFL red zone.

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Not Chris Hanson.

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No. Scott Hanson. Yeah. Chris Hanson, the why did you say you say you say Yeah. Why did you say you

[00:38:48]

say you

[00:38:49]

over there? Yeah.

[00:38:50]

Scott.

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That's Sorry, Scott. That's they called it the pred zone.

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Mhmm. Did he get no. Chris Hanson.

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Scott Hanson got railroaded.

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No. But Chris By me and stay on Chris Hanson for a second. Chris Hanson, I forgot. Like, he got he got it reversed. He wasn't a pedophile, but he got it reversed on him that someone caught him cheating on his wife and did the, you wanna take a seat over there?

[00:39:13]

Oh, they caught him? I'm pretty sure that that was I remember the guy. Story arc.

[00:39:17]

I remember the guy from Cheaters. Was that Joey Greco that got stabbed on the episode of Cheaters? Boat. Yeah.

[00:39:21]

Which might have been fake.

[00:39:22]

Might have been

[00:39:22]

but I believe it's real.

[00:39:23]

That was real. Yeah. So Chris Hansen, I believe, was caught having an affair with a colleague 20 years junior by a hidden camera and fired from NBC for it.

[00:39:31]

He was caught in his own videotape sting. Yeah.

[00:39:33]

That's so funny. Wait. It was

[00:39:35]

his own videotape sting? It was, like, his show?

[00:39:37]

He forgot the videos.

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The married NBC anchor was secretly filmed on a date with a blonde television reporter who has reportedly been dating for the past 4 months.

[00:39:45]

Wow.

[00:39:46]

I wanna get ahead of something. We had cameras set up in the studio on Sunday because Hank's doing the the part of my take documentary. Yep. And there was, like, a camera that was in here while I was working on boomers, and this is probably, like, I don't know, 5 or 6 PM. I forgot that the camera was there and that was on, and I I farted real loud, like, 9 times.

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Who cares?

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Like, 9 times.

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Dude, who cares? By the way, Shane is on the sticks right now because Max is getting his, he he we we already heard the update from Max, but Shane doesn't know how to work the volume. That was why the volume just turned on there. Shane?

[00:40:20]

I clicked on the video to try to pull it up and instantly just started playing.

[00:40:23]

Wait. We're we're going a bunch of different side tracks, but I wanna stay on this real quick. Is is there a reason Pug is not sitting where Shane is? Or are we He's working. Pug's working.

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There's a, documentary coming out.

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You're memes you're not still mad at Pug?

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No. We're good.

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Okay. PFT. You know what I I you know what I'm gonna do for 2025? And I I think this is I don't give a fuck anymore. Okay?

[00:40:45]

Love that. Like farts, I I caught my someone was like, you picked your nose on a stream the other day. I was like, dude, I pick my nose every fucking day.

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I picked my nose also when I was in this sitting at this desk, and I think after 5 minutes, I looked at the camera. I like, the camera probably just caught me picking my nose. Deal with it.

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Don't care. This is Disgusting.

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But talking about farts, like, do you like, when you have smelly farts and you're in the comfort of your own home

[00:41:11]

Oh, yeah.

[00:41:11]

You like to just, like, fishbowl under the under the covers?

[00:41:14]

It smells good. We a little

[00:41:15]

comfort of our own homes?

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Yeah. Because I enjoy I'm, like, in the smellier I'm by myself, the smellier, the better.

[00:41:21]

This one's disgusting.

[00:41:22]

I get excited.

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This is disgusting, but I do this. I'm wondering if any of you guys do this because I I agree. You have to smell your own farts. When you're in your car, you got a good 1, and you put on the heated seats to warm up the fart. Yeah.

[00:41:37]

To really cook it extra hot.

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You get it simmering

[00:41:39]

a little bit? Yeah. Give it a little extra juice. I've never done that. That's the gross shit.

[00:41:44]

I might start doing that. What I do sometimes is I'll turn the, the heater off Yeah. When I fart. That way, it doesn't blow the smell away.

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Yeah. Right. So I can just figure it out. A while.

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This is also fucked up, and I was thinking about this how I in in New York, I would, like if I had farts, I would on the train, I would just let them loose. That is fucked up. And then I would I would be like I because, obviously, no one's gonna, like, accuse random people on the subway, but I would always act like I smelled it too.

[00:42:10]

Like, oh, who the fuck? Yeah. Right. Like, oh, like, bro, man.

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Basically, like, you know, getting the getting the scent off yourself. Mhmm. So if someone else looks around in disgust, then you're also like, yeah. This is good.

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Yeah. That's the worst behavior ever on a subway. Hank. Yeah.

[00:42:24]

Yeah. It's bad on a subway.

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You don't fart on

[00:42:26]

some Elevators.

[00:42:28]

But yeah. Hate. You got a funny 1 farts. Alright. So,

[00:42:31]

Scott Hanson, red zone. I, obviously, I don't blame Scott Hanson. There was no way this was his decision, but their entire tagline for years since the beginning of red zone Mhmm. To get ready for 7 hours of commercial free, football. Mhmm.

[00:42:47]

And on Sunday, they ran commercials.

[00:42:49]

They ran commercials. Now I feel a little bad. 30 seconds of this. I do feel a little bad because this is, this is 1 of those blind spots for us where we're a little out of touch because we don't watch red zone anymore. Mhmm.

[00:43:00]

We haven't watched red zone in years. We watch every game. We're we're able to we're lucky enough to be able to have every game on. And I wish I had known this to speak for the people on Sunday because this is bullshit. This is you have a duty, and this is not Scott Hanson's fault.

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This is the people behind whoever sold these commercials. 7 hours of commercial free football, and you just completely rug pulled them. This is worse than hak'tua. Who did nothing wrong?

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She's still sleeping.

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She's still she's is she still not made a statement?

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No. She her statement was, hey, y'all. I'm kinda tired. Going to sleep. To bed.

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See y'all tomorrow.

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Going to

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bed. Alright.

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Alright. Bye. Yeah. I alright. So this is it is bullshit because the red zone is it's supposed to be a sanctuary away from commercials.

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Correct.

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They market it as such. I don't know if I blame Scott Hanson. I think I might blame Scott Hanson because Jeff D'Lo showed me a very interesting video the other day.

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Okay.

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He was asked to rank his top 5 red zone sayings, like the Scott Hanson sayings, Scott Hanson isms. He's claiming the witching hour as being his saying.

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That Mike Francesca created that as far as I know.

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Did you give it to him, though?

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No. I don't I don't know.

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On part of my take? But I feel like

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I feel I do feel

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like there was a time when you brought it up to him, and then he started using it. Like, that that is definitely how I remember it as well.

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Yes.

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Like, you we you brought up the witching hour for me, and then he started saying it.

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And then I think I think he tagged part of my take when he started saying

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that. That's interesting.

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Yeah. Do you guys have a name for, I'm gonna call it, like, the 3 to 4 PM hour that happens when you get just, like, all the all the games coming down to the wire, and they're, like, 4 close finishes at once. Do you have

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a nickname for that?

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Yeah. Simply, it's not really creative, but I call it the greatest single hour in sports television. Okay. And I I literally get that out loud.

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We call

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it the golden wait. It's the witching hour. Witching hour or golden hour? It's the witching hour. The golden hour is

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right at sunset. Witching hour is the 3 to 4.

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Before where we're talking before week 1, I promise I will refer to it either as the witching hour or the golden hour at some point this season. Just for you guys. Yeah. I promise I will do that.

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That I remember it that way as well.

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So so it was So we're good. We're giving credit to Mike Francesa. Yeah. But he gave credit to us, but now the credit has faded away.

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So are we so we're blaming Scott Hanson. This is like an Al Capone. We got him for tax evasion.

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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

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So it's like we're not saying that he's in trouble for the, commercial free. We're just we're we're lumping it all. He's getting a Rico case right now.

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All I'm saying is, it never had commercials when Siciliano was around.

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That's true. That's true. This is this is bullshit. This is bullshit.

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I

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mean, what's next? Yeah. What if if if red zone's not gonna be commercial free? Like, what is next? To people

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I struggle with red zone. That's all I'm gonna say. I've had this take before. I think it's too much, and I don't like I like being able to watch seeing all the games and the flow of the games. I mean, 7 games is a lot to follow.

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I love red zone.

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I do. I just can't I it's impossible for

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us, though.

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It is impossible for us.

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We're we're so far removed from the average fan in terms of watching NFL Sunday that Yeah. Like, I don't even think we can really comment.

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Yeah. No. You're right. You're right.

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I I do No 1 has 7 TVs.

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Yeah. But no With YouTube TV now, you can use you can at least do 4.

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You can do multiview. Yeah. But they only have sound on yeah. Yeah. I have a prediction.

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Hank's asking Yeah. Witching hour. He's looking for it. He's he only recently started saying it in the last few years. What were you saying?

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I have a prediction. Hank asked, what's next? Are they gonna start putting commercials in movies? Like, we have product placement now. That's been around.

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That's been a thing for a while. Yeah. Are they gonna have commercials, like, in the court like, a 15 second break? Yeah. That would be insane.

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Next? Commercials and podcasts? I could see it.

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I'm out. I'm out.

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Coors Light.

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Hot seat.

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Scott Hanson, he should've he he got it led to the wolves. Imagine if he had imagine if he I I see it, Shane. Shane Shane is is crazy with the with the computer in front of us. Mhmm. It's it's too much.

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He he's just going nuts. Imagine if Scott Hanson had, like, walked out.

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Yeah. That and yeah.

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That would have been a hero. Yeah. I mean, it would have sucked for him because he would have lost his job and a lot of money and, like, the best job in the world, but we would've respected him for that 10 minutes, and then we would've gone on to the next thing.

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He would've had conviction. I would I would I

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always love when people are like, yeah. You should just walk out. It's like, for what? 10 minutes of our respect?

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Yeah.

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We would have forgotten about it the second the Bills and Lions kicked off.

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The say like, no. He would have walked off the set. We would have been like, everybody we would have tweeted about it. Yeah. Show respect to Scott Hanson, and then Greg Rosenthal would have walked on

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this and be

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like, we love Greg.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. This guy rocks.

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Yeah. Like, red zone they also could have done it without Scott Hanson, and peep half the people wouldn't even notice.

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Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah.

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And my cool throne is shitty money grab fights involving 1 of the Paul brothers.

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Mhmm.

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Okay. What's going on? Connor McGregor, tweeted that the rumors of a bout with Tapirio are false. I'm in preliminary agreements with the Embandi and Embani family to face Logan Paul in a boxing exhibition in India. I have agreed.

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I will then seek my return to the octagon. He's, like, a 100 years old. He hasn't fought in forever. He's just gonna do a boxing match for Logan Paul. It's probably gonna suck.

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How many times are we gonna fall for the the Paul fights?

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I'm sick of it. Yeah. Like, I'm I'm sick of it.

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This might be

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the fight someone who's actually, like, at the top of their game.

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I you know what? I will boycott this fight. If I do watch it If it's on it for free

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It'll be a pirated stream.

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Probably watch. I will I will pirate the stream. It depends. But I will not

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Don't don't box yourself in yet.

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I will not, watch it on a legitimate stream.

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Because they could easily do this fight, like, on a Saturday at, like, 9 PM in, like, July, and you sit usually, like, sitting on the couch, you're like, oh, I guess so.

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Pay for it. I'm with PFT. Yeah. It's on a streaming platform for free that I already have.

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I'm not gonna go as far as saying I won't. I I most likely won't. I most likely won't.

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I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Won't. I'm gonna break the law. This is entrapment.

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You're forcing me to break the law. Mhmm. You you can only push a man so far.

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That's facts. Okay. PFT, your hot seat. Good job, Hank.

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Nice job, Hank. Great job, Hank. Thanks. My hottest Scott Chris thing, but That's okay. My hot seat is Doug Gottlieb.

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Mhmm.

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That was mine.

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Yeah. Doug Gottlieb on the hot seat. Our boy Adam Schefter reported yesterday that Sacramento State was in discussions to hire Mike Vick as their head coach, head football coach. And along with that report, he also posted that, Sacramento State has over $50,000,000 in NIL money

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Mhmm. At

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their behest that they can contribute to building the program. And then Doug Gottlieb replied saying, Jesus Shefty, but it was j e e z u s.

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That's how

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you know he's serious. Jesus Shefty, Edit what agents tell you. 0.0 percent chance Sac State has 50,000,000 in NIL. Shefty did not take that laying down. No.

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He said this the Sac 12 leading the school's NIL efforts already announced it reached its initial goal of raising $50,000,000 in NIL funds to strengthen the school's case for an invitation to the Pac 12 or Mountain West Conference. And Jesus, Doug, a 7 game losing streak and last place in the Horizon League, less time on social media, more time in the gym. I give that round to Shefty. Absolutely. I give that round to Shefty.

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Roast. Now I I did see some fact checking of Shefty saying that the $50,000,000 for Sacramento State is contingent on them following through on their road map and then being accepted into the Pac 12 down the line. So it's not like Sacramento State has $50,000,000 laying around.

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Yeah. So I was like, hey. If you get us into the big conference, we will we will give you $50,000,000. That's not $50,000,000 right now.

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Yeah. But Doug Gottlieb people forget he's hosting his radio show and also doing a bad job coaching college basketball team. Yeah. He's like the Travis Hunter of media.

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And he's, yeah. I think he's has he won a game in December, because the famously, it beginning of December, Doug Gottlieb posted it's the most wonderful time of the year, and it was a meme, December 2024. And it just has, like, all the days color coded, and it's like December 2nd through 6, pretend to work. December 9th through 13th, don't even pretend anymore. Like, nostalgia, destroy your body with food and alcohol.

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This is a coach, a college basketball coach, and he did a meme being like, December's the time when we don't even pretend to work.

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I love that. Now to be fair, he's had a gauntlet of a schedule. So he's lost to, Evansville, Campbell, Cleveland State.

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He also he also has done Oui poohy. He he's also oui poohy. He's also he's doing things like his way.

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Mhmm.

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I I don't know the exact details, but I just saw it. You know? I I just saw it, like, in in glancing through, like, like, maybe a week ago. I guess his point guard or 1 of his best players was not playing his way. The Gottlieb what?

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So Gottlieb Not

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a steal.

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Sat him for the entire game even Even though they can't win a game right now. Yeah. He's like, until he learns how to play my way, he's not gonna play. Yeah. So he's doing, like, a Bobby Knight thing for Green Bay.

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I like that. Credit credit to Doug Gottlieb. Maybe it's just not in the cards.

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Do you think? Now, again, we love Shafter. He's our guy. That response definitely was because Doug Gottlieb wasn't so far off.

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I think, what's the old saying? Well, they get they get sensitive.

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The insiders insiders get sick.

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The insiders get sick. Get sick. Me, lady me me think the lady doth protest too much?

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Yeah. Let them eat cake.

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Well, I think I they do say that. I think that, Shefty is on high alert after the hijinks that was pulled by Mike Malarkey against Ian Rapaport. We should we should talk about that again because it's such such a dirty move and not hilarious at all that Mike Malarkey did that.

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Did you guys see John Hammond's meltdown? No. That also like, the insiders are having a really bad time right now. They're having a really bad time. John Hammond went on WFAN, and and the host, insinuated that he was getting a cut of Scott Boris' deals for reporting on it.

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And he had he had a voice voice crack meltdown.

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Yeah. That's a no no.

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Which is, like, a funny again, it's it's

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just funny thing to say.

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All these guys are just so funny because they really just take so they they they just cannot stand anyone poking fun of the idea that they're breaking news 2 seconds before the team does.

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So so the insinuation here was that And Shams

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the other day was freaking out about Jimmy Butler.

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Shams got he got cooked by Jimmy Butler's agent.

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Yeah. Alright. But

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But then he he, like, lashed out too.

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Yeah. So so Haiman is being accused of getting money from Scott Boris?

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Yeah. In a joking way. So would play the end

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of it. Scott Boris would ever, like, give any of his money to a reporter?

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No. Hell no. Play the end of it. Let's see if Shane can do it. Maybe not that far.

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Alright. Right there. No sound. Shane. Shane's getting cooked right now.

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Shane's getting cooked by the people.

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There's a lot of jobs, in the sports world, especially, you know, being in it. Like, the insiders has never seemed appealing in any way, shape, or form at any No. It doesn't even matter when when Schefter gets these big contracts. It's like his his life is so stressful. Yeah.

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There's no there's no time when you're not stressed. I don't know how they're how how it's enjoyable.

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Yeah. The the only joy that Leroy ever got out of breaking stories was the fact that he was beating the insiders. Yeah. And the insiders who, like, make that their job getting beaten by a dog.

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Yeah. It's it's it's a crazy life. Alright. I'll I'll pull it up because she's She's really

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Thank you for that. I can't even believe it.

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Wait. Wait. You're playing 2 things right now. Appreciate it. You're playing 2

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things. Just ended

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exactly Shane, go back. Go back.

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Not expected to Yeah. John

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Go back a little.

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At some point, I think someone could could probably drop it if they're a nice

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person. I what I think is is it 1, it it it just like how I introduce you. Everybody in baseball knows who you are. So, 1, it's a credit to your work, your file, and

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how By

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the way, I won't be going on with you again. The whole thing is been a disaster. Cry.

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That's okay.

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I can't even believe you said that to question my integrity.

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Are you being serious right now?

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I'm being serious. Yeah.

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John

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Ask me if I'm getting a cut because I I I I have a relationship with an agent. It's outrageous. I know you're not a journalist. You don't know anything about this. I know you get you don't, but that's an outrageous

[00:56:16]

comment.

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It's Friday night at 8:30, John.

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You shouldn't know that much.

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And and I am not with you. I am not taking this back serious. Goodbye. John, do we you know, thank you for

[00:56:26]

for joining us. Believe it.

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Thank you. I can't even believe it. I can't hear you. The end. I can't believe it.

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Do you know they're getting upset when

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they're when they're, like,

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when they're talking to another member of media, and they're like, you're not even a journalist. Yeah. You wouldn't get it.

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They're under fire right now.

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Mhmm. Getting punishment. Yeah.

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Memes got out at the right time. Memes attacking Racine? Yeah. He was crying the other day about that. Worranted incorrect.

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Have we found the story?

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Yeah. No. He did find the story. It was not even close to what

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he said.

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I know. What? This is

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this He he said probable.

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She said probable. It is very funny that you you That's what she said.

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I think she said discussions discussions were being had regarding this thing.

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Yeah. She said It's it's likely or probable. She didn't say, like, fact, which is how you reported it.

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Like, this is basically the Scooby Doo meme. It's it's, you you think it's Florio takes off the mask. It's or or Rossini takes off the mask, it's Florio. It's really like Rossini and Florio take off the mask. It's memes all along because you make up more stories than they do.

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That's probably true. I think memes to be fair to memes, he reads a headline a post, and then he just gets the vibe of what that post is. And then he, like, he has his own grok, his own AI inside of his head that summarizes it, rewrites it, and then that's the report.

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Yeah. It's probably true. Yeah. I'm not paying for that shit.

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Okay. Okay.

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Alright. That's all I got.

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Okay. Where were we? Oh, hot seat was over. Cool throne. Cool throne is combat sports.

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We got a new combat sport that we have to start paying attention to, guys. It's better than power slap. It's better than arm wrestling. It's the ultimate dick kicking championship. Oh.

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2 guys just stand across from each other and kick each other in the dicks until 1 guy gives up. Oh. And it's another 1 of these sports like power slap that was designed just for the clips, basically, because you will share and you will watch clips of 2 guys kicking each other in the dick. To me, it might as well just be yeah. Watch this video.

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Boom. Just taking it.

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I like this. Should we do it? Should we do it? So to me, this might

[00:58:42]

as well be the ultimate coin flipping championship. Because if you go first, you should win every time.

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Oh, I like this. We should do this on stool streams.

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You wanna get involved? Yeah. Ultimate dick kicking? Why not? At some point, this will be, like, a national event.

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Yeah. The clips are just too good. It's also funnier than slap. Right?

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This much, but they should have a a women's division.

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Yeah. I would prefer it if it was just, like, they were throwing balls at each other from across the ring. Does that So there was a level of, like, skill?

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Sitting on the ground with your legs open in gym shorts, no 1

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there. Blindfolded.

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And then and then rolling a 10 or rolling a basketball as hard as you can at the other person.

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Guys really need to get girlfriends these days. I love that. Do you guys see those posts? I I I like that there's a ref in it. Yeah.

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Like, what's

[00:59:37]

the ref's job to police the ultimate dick kicking?

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The the, I don't know if you guys in the algorithm, like, where people would just be like, you know, guys can't you know, all these women aren't dating guys anymore. Mhmm. It's like society's fucked up. So, like, maybe we're just because you're spending all day on on your burner account on Twitter and not just going to the bar. Like, I feel like there's a whole world out there of people still dating and meeting girls

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Yeah.

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Going Normal people.

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Going to the bar. Yeah. Yeah. Touch. The discussion that's happening online is not real life.

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Yeah. Go out, have a drink, touch glass. Yeah. Alright, buddy.

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I like that. But there are a lot of people online. Like, man, I can't find a date. It's like, just I don't know. Go to the bar.

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Yeah. Probably can probably can talk to a girl.

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Yep. My other cool throne is the Boca Raton Bowl.

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Mhmm.

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That's tonight, Wednesday. You guys, long time real ones on, on part of my take will remember that we sponsored the Boca Raton Bowl back in 2016. Yeah. I think. I'm try to

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remember the The Ponzi awareness. The Bernie Madoff wet the beak Ponzi awareness Boca Raton Bowl.

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Presented by part of my take, presented by Barstool Sports.

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Yeah.

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So, Western Kentucky Memphis was the first matchup of it Mhmm. Back in 2016. And who can forget the Royal Rumble, the interim Royal Rumble that we had at halftime with Glenny Balls, Tommy Smokes, Hubbs, Robbie Fox. Jesus. Who else was in that world?

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To the hospital.

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Yeah. Yeah. Glennie went to the hospital. What a great time that was.

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And then Okra told him what the beak Ponzi scheme awareness poll presented by part of

[01:01:08]

my day presented by parcel.

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That feels like a different life ago.

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It really does. We had Caleb down there with a trophy who snuck onto the field at the end of it.

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Kyle's actually electric.

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Electric.

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And so he presented he When he

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had to go to the hospital? That was almost an Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Issue.

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Yeah. Because Yeah. The bowl the bowl game did not have a sponsor, so we just said, hey. We're just gonna act like we're the sponsor of this bowl game to raise awareness for it. And we sent Caleb down there.

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He presented the official trophy, to Western Kentucky after the game. Western Kentucky Kentucky, last I checked, has that trophy in their official trophy case at at the school. Yes. They're playing in it again tonight. They're in the the Boca Raton Bowl, and they're playing against James Madison.

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I love it.

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I want that fucking trophy. It's the deuce. That kid

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what was that kid's name? Mikey Electric or something?

[01:01:56]

Something like that. But I just want lightning or

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I I wanna let the people because I know that they listen to the show at Western Kentucky. The trophy's on the line again. Yeah. I will I will go down there and steal that trophy back if I have to if JMU beats Western Kentucky tonight.

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I love bowl season even though it's been kinda taken away from us. We'll talk about that with Herbie a little bit more, but I still love bowl season. Yeah. Okay. My hot seat was also gonna be, Doug Gottlieb, but we discussed that in, in detail.

[01:02:26]

Gottlieb, I still can't believe he's coaching. Mhmm. It's pretty crazy. It's pretty crazy. I'll do a different hot seat.

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I was thinking about this because we're talking about on Sunday. We had Jonathan Taylor and then the Bengals player. Is is it isn't it kinda crazy that Deshaun Jackson, that is his legacy? That everyone just like Deshaun Jackson every time someone drops the ball? Is there any other situation like that?

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I guess the Leon Let, but that happens very rarely. Yeah.

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The if you Leon Let no. I got another 1. Dan Orlovsky.

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Dan Orlovsky. Yeah.

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The Orlovsky.

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Yeah. Dan Orlovsky is a bad 1.

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It is it's it's crazy, but it's also with Deshaun Jackson, he was still so good for so long and so fast that it's not the first thing you think of

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Right.

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Deshaun Jackson.

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Right.

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When somebody drops the ball, then you do think about him. But, like, that's not his enduring legacy, but it is he does own the legacy of that play.

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Orlovsky's a good 1. The the Leon Lutz' funny because he's got 2 of them. Yeah. He's got the the after the field goal and then also the Doug BB. Yeah.

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Yeah. Getting chased down in a meaningless, you know, end of a game. BB? No. Don BB.

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Don BB. Don BB. I don't know why I said Doug. Yeah. I'm trying to think what you're saying the double doink?

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That happens, like, once never?

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Yeah. Not really. Yeah. Very, very rare. Oh, butt fumble.

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Oh. Yeah. Chris Webber.

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But, like, those but it's not as much. Out. Chris Webber's a good 1. Chris Weber's a good 1. Because it's not like, the double doink and the butt fumble are kinda hard to replicate.

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I'm talking about a play that happens that everyone's like, Deshaun Jackson. Like, it's a negative play, and everyone says it's Sean Jackson. Orlovsky and and Chris Weber are great ones.

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For her cousin's 4th 4th down play.

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Check down. Check down. The, on the positive side when in hockey, the Michigan goal. Which 1? If somebody does something, they do the wrap around.

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The wrap around. They call that a Michigan.

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Yeah. That was just part of, the, like, NCAA highlight package for that commercial for

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Yeah. For a 100 years. Anytime you get jumped, you can just I got bizzed. I got pissed.

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But, you know, took some, gave some more. Gave more. Gave some more.

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I read the police writ write up behind that. So they did, like, the police report. You probably saw some of the videos where the guy was, like, this guy, not a not a lick of fat on him. Yeah. They're like Dwayne The Rock Johnson.

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There was a written report that came out where these guys were just fucking terrified of Biz. Yeah. They're like, this guy was out of the parking lot screaming at all of us. Like, I'm gonna fuck you guys

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up. Biz is my hero. Yeah. He's legitimately my hero. He, he the way they were talking about him after was he was William Wallace.

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They're like, he was he was 9 feet tall and fireballs out of his ass. Mhmm.

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It's just amazing.

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It was just incredible.

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Well, that's a it's a just outstanding tremendous restaurant, and it's unbelievable. And he goes there 4 to 5 times a week? 4 to 5 times a

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week, and the staff is unbelievable. Great organization.

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It's a great organization at Houston's, and it just everything that happened there, I saw a guy. I was like, hey, buddy. You know, like, you're an unbelievable guy. I got someone who should do something. He's And I did something.

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He's the fucking best.

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Oh, he's a 1 on 1 guy. Are the Michael Throne? Is Ryan Russell on the UVM soccer team because they won the national championship. I don't know if you guys saw this. It was kind of a Cinderella story.

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Mhmm.

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They were unranked. They made an incredible run. I think they survived a 2 overtime game in the America East tournament just to get into the regular NCAA tournament, and then they won in overtime last night to win the national championship. And, yeah, they were unranked, and they, they won it all. So shout out, Rocillo.

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And Jake. Very cool.

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And Jake. Yeah. And Patrick Sharp.

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Yeah. It was an awesome finish.

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Yeah. Great job, UVM. Yes. Okay.

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Taylor Coppenrath.

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Taylor yes.

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Mhmm. Who's

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that? What's the kid's name? Lamb? Is it Anthony Lamb?

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Yeah. That was that was the Jake era.

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Yeah. That was the Jake era.

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Anthony. Coppenrath is from the

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parking lot. Was it Laronega?

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No. That was, Fish? That was George Mason. Trey? Or George Mike?

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I know

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he's at George Mason. I know that.

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He didn't go to Vermont? John?

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Yeah. Alright. Yeah. Story history. Yeah.

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We got it all.

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It was Dirk Spentley that we're still was friends with Freshman here?

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Oh, Sorrentino's from the parking lot.

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Oh, yeah. Jeez.

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No. It was,

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what's his name?

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This is Golden Junior from the from the Bruins. No. Oh, Tim Thomas? Thomas?

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No. But I think he was friends with was it Dirk Spentley? He was friends with with a with a country star freshman year.

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It might have been Dirk's.

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It might have been This is we're doing some really good stuff. Yeah. Dirk Spentley spent a year at Vermont. There we go. Became Dirk Spentley.

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Here he is, Kirk Herbstreit. Okay. We now welcome on a very special guest, friend of the program, recurring guest. It is Kirk Herbstreit getting ready for the college football playoff. He's gonna be in South Bend on Friday night.

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He's gonna be in Columbus on Saturday night. We're all pumped. Herbie, first of all, thanks for joining us, and I don't I hate to have to start in a negative light. I wanna talk about these matchups, but I think we have to address the fact the college football feels like it's, in a little bit of disarray right now. And what I'm talking about is the Beau Probuola transfer portal, with Penn State.

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And I want I want your thoughts on it because I'm I'm I'm hoping that you have some galaxy brain fixed. But for those that aren't aware, transfer portal opened a few days ago. The college football playoff is still yet to be played. We always knew this was a screwed up system, but Beau Probuila for Penn State, their backup quarterback who does play in packages, and Penn State is going to be playing for a national championship and playing in the college football playoff in a couple of days has hit the transfer portal. And this is the first time that it feels like I knew we knew it was a problem, but now it's like, this is a team that's going to be playing on Saturday that just lost a guy that is a weapon for them and does add a different dynamic.

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How the hell do we fix this? This this is it's crazy.

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we we've been talking about this for so long. You know? How how nutty this is and how it's easy to blame the players.

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I think it's easy to look at it like, how selfish are these guys? But I think if if you put yourself in their shoes, I think the calendar and the way it's set up is is difficult. I don't know Bo's case because I know Preston, Stone and there's some other guys that have entered the portal, but they're staying with their team and and into the playoffs, like at SMU, getting ready. Yep. I don't know why he felt the need to be able to enter the portal, but then leave.

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You know, maybe you guys can help me with that. I I don't understand that aspect of his specific story on why he's leaving the team. You know, I I guess maybe he felt he had to go visit these schools to be able to really get a good handle on where he wanted to go. I have no idea. I know it's it's a little bit of revolving door for the especially that position when it comes to the portal.

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And, you know, some of these guys are are trying to kinda be rerecruited like they're high school seniors again to try to figure out where where's the best fit for them. So maybe he felt before someone else takes the spot that he wants, he needs to go visit while his team's playing in these playoff games. He needs to go visit these schools. It's the only thing I can think of of why he left the team.

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Yeah. Yeah. I think that's exactly it, by the way.

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Yeah. It's and it's the calendar, I don't I don't blame the kids because you do have an advantage if you're in the portal earlier. So you wanna go ahead and make that decision. Now 1 way to fix it might be if you could go into the portal, and then you could actually join a college football playoff team. So you get, like, an impact free agent that just transfers out of nowhere with no connection to the school that could play.

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Here's here's the 1 thing I guess I would say because this whole thing has gone from, like, when I played, players had 0 rights for the majority of college football. The players have had you you have no rights. You just do what you're told and, you know, it's like you're in the marines. Yes, sir. You may have another kind of thing.

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And then we got to 2020 and COVID, and everything kind of changed, then a realignment. And then we we've kinda gotten into this world now where where players are able to to leave whenever they wanna leave. We have NIL, obviously, that that is a huge part of this. But if you even follow the NFL model, the players have restrictions. Like, you can't be on the bears and just say, oh, the hell with this season.

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I'm I'm going to the lions. Like like, you have a contract. You have to follow the contract. The NFL has very stringent rules. This is what we do as a team.

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This is what you're allowed to do. This is what the players can do. So this whole idea of the players in college just doing whatever the hell they wanna do isn't isn't the right thing. Like, it it's not like if like, my kids I had 4 sons. If my kids at 12 years old said, dad, I'm taking the the, the car.

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See, I'm going to a party. At 12, I'd be like, what are you talking about? You can't do that. The world we live in today in college football, it's kinda like, screw you. I'm taking the keys.

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Mhmm. And the coach is kinda like, well, okay. He's gonna take the keys. What am I supposed to do? You have you have 0 power.

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And that you know, it's cool to be that player and have fun, but it's not cool for you as in the long term for your growth and where you're trying to go as a human. It might be fun for these that 3 5 year window. But as far as, like, what is great about this sport is what the hardship you gotta go through. The shit you think is annoying, and why do I have to go through it? It molds you and changes you into becoming a better person down the road, whether it's as an employee or as a husband or a father, whatever it is.

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You gotta go through some tough shit. You can't just, like, this isn't fun anymore. I'm not playing. I'm out. Like, it just can't be that way.

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If you wanna do that, I feel like coaches who leave, you know, like, they they get a new job, they should have to finish the thing out before they go to their new job. Players, you should have to finish this thing out until you go to your new job. Like, I I just don't I think these players at this point, they need to sign contracts. I think we need a CBA. I think we need to form some kind of player's union.

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I think we need to somehow create the the other thing is we're very it's almost like silo. Greg Sankey is in an SCC silo. You know, the big ten's in a silo. We we need to somehow create more of a national view of the sport. We're still governing the sport in the eighties, and the sport is in the 2024.

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It's more of a national sports. We need a national view on how we govern the sport. So we somehow need to get that national view to partner with the players union, create a CBA where you're held accountable. Okay. We're gonna agree on NIL.

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Here are the rules we're gonna agree on for NIL. Both both sides agree. Here's the the deal with portal transfer portal. Both sides agree. And whatever they ultimately come up with, it's it's a contract and we and we sign, and then we obey the contract on both sides.

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I think that's where it's gotten. How we get there, I have no idea. But players just kinda coming and going and 0 accountability to their team. That that's not healthy at all. Yeah.

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And and, you know, it really takes away from from what this sport is about, which is the team trying to win games.

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Yeah. You know, that

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that's what this is all about.

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It it it's a bummer, and and I don't I don't blame Beaupreview at all because the schedule is screwed up where, you know, it's it's still based on, enrolling for classes. And that's the real problem is that, like, you you have to figure out, like, you know, kids have to do it before the winter or the the spring semester, so that's why they have to do it right now. You can't be like, maybe it's the transfer portal just happens in the spring or after the spring semester, but then coaches would be upset because they don't have their team set for spring ball, all that stuff. But, yeah, for Beau's case, like, the carousel and the musical chairs of quarterbacks in the NIL, like, if he waits until mid January or early January, he's gonna be shit out of luck. That's just the reality.

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Teams want to act right away. And if he waits, all these seats are gonna be filled, so he's gotta go and be active right now and and take care of himself. But, yeah, the system just is screwed up. I don't know how they fix it. I think it it just really stinks.

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Some stuff is gonna change once the the schools Yeah. Start to they they get to pay the players directly now. Yeah. I think that starts, what, next season? So things are gonna be supposed

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to be a big thing in April. I I think something's going down in April. Hopefully, by next year, there's a new a new set of circumstances. Hopefully, that'll be the case.

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Yeah. So there there'll have

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to be new rules put in place for that as well. But, yeah, what's what's the problem with just saying, hey. I'm going to enter the portal, and, then you you finish out the season with your team, and then maybe you miss a week of classes at whatever that new school is.

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Well, the the 1 of the problem is if you if you sign with a new team and you get money and then you play with the old team, you get hurt. Now what happens? Because, like, if you're Yeah. Let's say you're Mizzou and you want Beau Parvula, and he's like, I'm gonna keep playing for Penn State, but I'm signing with you guys. He gets hurt.

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Mizzou's not gonna want him to play in those games. You know what I mean?

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Maybe just make yeah. Make the transfer portal happen after the the championship game. Like, we don't have NFL free agency before the Super Bowl.

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Where the the school schedules were

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supposed to fall. We're gonna, like, pretend like these guys, like, the reason why they're at that school is for class. Right.

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It's stupid. The whole thing's stupid. Yeah. So I wanted to start with that. It's a bummer to talk about.

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By the way, you mentioned your son, or your 4 sons. How was the reception when your son committed to Michigan? That that caused some waves.

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Yeah. I've kinda stayed out of that world a little bit. I, I haven't seen a whole lot of reaction intentionally just because I know

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some

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80% of the people are thrilled, 20% are gonna be jackasses. So I just decided, it's 1 thing to take shots at me, but if you take a shot at my kid, and you wanna get in a fight, it it's not hard for me to wanna do that. So I just I just try to ignore, that stuff the best that I can and just kinda stay focused on the positive. What an opportunity for him. You know, this is a kid that grew up a lifelong Ohio State fan of all my kids.

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Like, he's the guy that cried when they lose games. Like, he's an Ohio State junkie. Ohio State did not really pursue him to the point of offering him a scholarship. Then they were close to they're like, listen, man. We're we're this new rule that's a big thing with this new world that you talked about.

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Right now, you can have 85 on scholarship, but a 125 are in the program. Well, the new world that you're referring to, this rev share, football is gonna be affected, but it's gonna go down to 105. Mhmm. So you can only have a 105 guys on your on your team. Now you could put a 105 on scholarship, but a lot of these guys are not.

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They're just kind of in a wait and see approach. So guys like my son, Chase, who was kinda like that that last fighting for those last couple spots for a scholarship or potentially a PWO, which would be a preferred walk on. He's kind of in that area where he's fighting. Most of those guys, big schools like Michigan, Ohio State, and Notre Dame, the schools that he was looking at the most, they're they're almost, hey. Why don't you go to the Mac?

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We're gonna bring in this old guy who we know a little bit more about, and they're really not into developing young players and and investing and hoping that they become a great player. So Che got a a huge opportunity to to do this. Trummore and his staff believe, and I think they've seen his competitive spirit, his fire, and and what he did on the field this year to give him this opportunity. And, you know, it's it's, it's very different for our family because our family behind the scenes is scarlet and gray our whole lives. You know, big cat, it'd be like you having a son that was he's Wisconsin born and bred, brainwashed, and all of a sudden, he goes to Michigan.

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Yeah.

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You know? It's, it is quite a thrill. Obviously, we're beyond ecstatic for him. I went to senior day for my other son who had a heart, situation. He was part of the senior class of the Ohio State players, so it was a it was a family only event this past Sunday.

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And I went in there really nervous to wonder how the Ohio State coaches because none of them texted me, hey. Congratulations on Chase. I didn't hear anything from anybody. So I was a little bit, should I go? Should I not go?

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And I went because I need to be there for my other son. It was a very cool event, by the way. Each position coach would, you know, would would have his guys come up, say something about each guy, and then that guy had to grab the mic and speak in front of his all of his teammates and close to the media and the fans. And, it was very emotional to watch some of these guys, Trevion Henderson, Emeka Abuka. Like like, they've been through some stuff.

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You know? Not only lost it to Michigan, but just personal stuff. So it was very heartfelt, day to to be there to watch that. But, you know, I talked to Chip Kelly afterwards, talked to Ryan Day afterwards. Nobody said anything.

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It

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was like

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yeah. It was like, okay. Yeah.

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I'll be here for You know,

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I'll see you next week. Tennessee, looking forward to it. I'll call you this week. You know?

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Just it

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was just kinda like business mode. You know? And But that's That's good by me.

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Yeah. That's good. I mean, like, you're smart to stay out of the, out of the fray because I agree. Like, you know, if if someone says something about your kids, it's it's on-site. So that was that's smart to just ignore all of it.

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But congrats to him.

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And a compliment, he's got some balls. He's got conviction too, so that that's a that's a man that knows what he wants. Yeah. And yeah.

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No doubt. It's cool. No doubt.

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Yeah. It's it's definitely another wrinkle to the rivalry. So alright. So let's let's let's go to Ohio State because you're gonna be you're gonna be calling that game, Ohio State, Tennessee on Saturday night. I'm so excited for this game, and I think we're all kind of thinking the same thing.

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This Ohio State team is insanely, insanely talented. 1 of the teams that you could circle right now and be like, this team has all the dudes that could end up winning the national title. But where are they at mentally after what happened in Columbus against Michigan and the end of their season? And how do they get off the mat? Because it is just a very unique situation to have that type of loss with that much on it and that like, the 4 year buildup and then be like, oh, yeah.

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We're still going to play for a national title. So where do you think they're gonna be mentally when it comes to Saturday night?

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Well, again, just going back to that that senior day just behind closed doors just with the players. It was interesting to to be there because if you go by the outside world, the feeling of Ohio State fans, they're very dejected by by the Michigan game, and and no nobody's seen really Ohio State since that the the the fight the fight at the end of the game. And everyone just kinda left the stadium. I think that day I wasn't there, but just talking to my son and a lot of friends who went to that game, like, holy shit. What just happened?

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How did this happen again? Kind of kind of feeling. And now, you know, Michigan's, they're gonna play in a bowl game, and Ohio State's going to a playoff game. And I I think there's the the flutter that's out there on social media. Screw Ryan Day.

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Screw you know? But, you know, the worst I've heard people say everything. I hope they lose the first game and he's fired. I mean, just bizarre set of circumstances for a team that's, as you said, is 1 of the most talented, is in the playoff hosting a playoff game, and you've got that kind of noise by a fraction of your of your fan base. So I think the reality is what matters most is the players, seem to be super engaged.

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They kept talking about this isn't good. Almost every guy up there that talks said, man, this isn't goodbye. You know, we got 4 more to go. You know, it it was just it was it was I don't know how many times I I heard we have 4 more games to go. And I think they truly, in their minds, are buying into that.

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Kinda like March Madness when you get ready to make a run, you know, you gotta win a few weekends. I think their focus is on trying to beat Tennessee and go to the Rose Bowl and take on Oregon and and down the line. And and I think they they believe that kinda like if you go back to the team with CJ Sprout when they lost to Michigan again, and then they had to play Georgia, and everybody wondered how would they play against Georgia. And it was like a different team

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Mhmm. When

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they played Georgia. If you remember, they played super aggressively. Stroud played out of his mind, scrambling around, making plays, really out played Georgia. And to Georgia's credit, Georgia ended up making the plays at the end

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of the game to

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win it. It the vibe of the players reminds me of that. At the end of the day, though, guys, are they good enough? We could talk all day about Jeremiah Smith and all the receivers and all that. But the offensive line Yeah.

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If you really watch the Michigan game, you know, when when they lost, the center from Alabama, Seth McLaughlin, when he went down with that Achilles, I think that offensive line is a is a serious question mark going up against Tennessee's strength

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Mhmm.

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Which is their defensive front. So how will that battle go, I think, will be a a big factor because it was in the Michigan game, and they they're not obviously getting any of those pieces back on that offensive line. So that to me will be the big thing. And then just the crowd, the energy in that stadium. I've heard Tennessee is gonna buy 30,000 tickets.

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I don't know if that's true. But just the vibe inside that that stadium, if things are going great, it'd be obvious. Be right in their corner cheering a little crazy. If Will Howard throws a pick, how will the crowd react? If the poor field goal kicker who missed 2 against Michigan happens to miss a kick, how will the crowd react?

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If if Tennessee gets a sack and a score, a fumble and a score, how will the crowd like like, I'm just wondering what the energy what what you would think would be a night game and a shoe, massive opportunity, home field advantage. You would think that would be the case?

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Yeah.

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But if things go sideways Yeah. I'm just wondering how that the environment inside, the stadium will go.

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I agree with you. Because I I think Ohio State, they've been they've been practicing with a lot of pissed off energy. They've been very, very angry. Right? So you gotta you gotta channel that somehow.

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And I think they're channeling their anger obviously into preparing for the the football playoff. But if something goes wrong, all that emotion that you've put in, all that pissed off energy quickly can turn on you. If that's been your reason for getting ready for this and things start to go downhill, then it can snowball on you and you can get down real fast. You mentioned the, the the home field advantage. I heard that it's not actually as much of a home field advantage as you might think that it would be during the playoff because they're they're not doing, like, the normal game day operations at these schools.

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They're bringing in the national guys. So it's not like the, the scoreboard guys or the, in stadium audio guys are going to be the normal Ohio state people that run the show. It's gonna be like a, a neutral site type of environment with all the media and all the sound just that happens to be played in the horseshoe. Do you think that has any impact on it?

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I I don't know, man. I I I I won't I guess I've I'm hearing those same things. I don't know what it's gonna you know, I I heard when Tennessee runs out of the field, it'll be like a like a neutral site feel. Like, Tennessee will have their own entrance that they would have that they've chosen with their song and their music and their their energy running onto the field, which I think is really, really bizarre. Like, when you go to South Bend on Friday night, and Indiana comes onto the field, you know, it's not like the normal just the visiting team, boo.

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They kinda run onto the field, and then the lights go down in the home field. It's it's I don't I don't know how they're gonna do it. I I'm reading the same things you're reading. But that that that that that could be an interesting aspect, not just in Columbus, but all these these playoff games. This is again uncharted waters.

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We have no idea really how it's gonna go until we until we see it. You know, with Notre Dame on Friday night in Indiana, you know, is Indiana gonna have their normal allotment of tickets? Is it just gonna be a a small little fraction of Hoosiers fans inside there? Are they gonna get online and and scoop up as many tickets as they can and and try to, you know, may have a big showing because it's such an easy drive to go from Bloomington up to South Bend? I I have no idea.

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But, yeah, it I I'll have a lot more answers on the on the back end of this, but I I cannot wait to see home playoff games and how it'll impact, like you say, the game ops, which obviously is a huge advantage for the home team, you know, in normal set set of circumstances.

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Yeah. I heard no hang on sloopy. They're not doing they're not doing that either. That's that's worth at least 4 points right there.

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Yeah. Yeah. Dudes, let me again, I at the risk of getting in trouble, I think there are schools that do an incredible job with their game ops. You know, like like, you go into the SCC. I think the home crowd and the people who run those stadiums, they look at themselves as our job is to be a distraction to the enemy Mhmm.

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And to do everything we can to the line where we can't play music while the quarterbacks, you know, sang the signals and barking out the cadence. But we're gonna walk right up to the line with the band. We're gonna put microphones into the band, the the music. We're gonna go right to the line. We're we're we're we're gonna maybe get a letter from the SEC commissioner that we can't do that.

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That that's our goal every

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Yeah.

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Home. And in the big 10, I I think there's a a few stadiums that do that. But I just feel you guys tell me. I feel like the big ten's a little more traditional. Yeah.

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More of the band has as much to do with the the the the the game they experience as the team. You know, so they're they're a little bit a tough spot between like, in the SEC, they hire a DJ.

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Yeah. I

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mean, you put a break in the SEC, and it's like the party's just beginning for the fans during TV timeouts. I mean, it is bonkers at LSU or Alabama or Georgia or Tennessee. It's insane during the TV time out. And at Ohio State, it's, you know, okay. Let's go to break.

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We'll be back after this. And then it's, ladies and fencing team, Quebec. Yep. Let's let's all have a let's get on our feet and show them some appreciation for the 1973 CO big 10 champs. And it's

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Yeah. No. You the the easiest way to say it that's perfectly put because I can actually envision that. The easiest way to say it is we just haven't figured out a way to get a light show up north yet. That's it.

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No. Like, we don't have the light show. I see the light show in Georgia and Auburn.

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Or the or the DJ.

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Yeah. It's it's insane. The light show always I'm like, why don't we have a light show?

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It really yeah. Yeah. Music, DJ, like, feed the energy. See don't take it away.

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It's so true.

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Pull it away. Feed it.

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Yeah. You should go right up to that line. That's it. Those those guys are doing a great job if that's how they approach the game. It's like, I'm gonna do everything that I can to to fuck with the opponent.

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Even though my job is to sit in a booth with a lanyard on around my neck and, like, an officially issued team polo, I'm out there making a difference. I like that mentality.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree.

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It's like if you go to an NHL game, I I you know, I I'll go to these NHL games. I'm so blown away by the game ops and what they do because it's it's a diff 1997 to now, like, your job to keep people off their phone and engaged in what's happening, that's a challenge, man. It's just a different world that we live in. A lot of people's attention span isn't the same, and it's easy to, like, get to a, you know, TV time out, take a seat, look on your phone, check out what's going on, And all of a sudden, it's like, oh, the oh, the game's back on. You know?

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And and they try to take that away by keeping you engaged. And I I really when I see it and I I see fans engaged during breaks, I just I pay homage to that, man. Yeah. Because it's not an easy not an easy thing to do in 2024.

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It's so true. So, this weekend with 4 games, you're a quarterback. You know these quarterbacks. Give me your top 4 quarterbacks playing this weekend that you trust.

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Let let's start Friday night. I I I think Riley Leonard I I don't know if I trust him yet. I don't know how many times he's really been challenged.

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Right.

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You know? So I don't know. It's not that I don't trust him. It's just we don't know.

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Right.

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And can Indiana put him in a in a place where they they get him in those 3rd down situations where he's gotta make plays with his arm, not just his legs, with his arm. I I'm excited to see that. And and Rourke, I've been blown away by that kid. Their whole story, I was early kinda like, it's Indiana. It's a cute story.

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And then I just kinda kept watching him and thought and I stood next to Rourke in the Ohio State game. I was like, damn. That that's an impressive looking dude. This guy's I don't know what he's listed. He looks like he's 65 to me.

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Big, impressive guy. And I just think that kid plays with a serious amount of confidence for a guy that's in his 1st year. I think of all of them, that might be a guy that that stands out to me. I don't know how much you've watched Tennessee, but Tennessee with Josh Heiple, we go back to Hendon Hooker or or Milton. What do you think of?

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You think of 50 yard bombs just taking shots in that offense because that's who they've been. This year, total opposite Tennessee team.

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Yep.

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They play to their strengths. Let's play defense. Let's run our all SEC running back, Dylan Sampson, and let's just take care of the quarterback. Let's spoon feed him, ease him in, not make him feel like he has to win it, where our quarterbacks in the past did. So it's been a very different style of approach as a head coach.

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Is that good enough to win in this environment? I think he'll I think he'll call his game based on how his defense is playing against Will Howard at Ohio State. After forcing Ohio State to punt, he's gonna play the way he has most of this year. A a very conservative, hand it off, throw when you have to kind of approach. If Ohio State's scoring, then you'll see Niko, who's more than capable you know you know his recruiting story.

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Yeah. Yeah. He's a freak. But he's a freshman, so they've just been very, very careful with him. So I would say Will Howard, I know he's made some mistakes.

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He's cost his team in some big games. I just think because of the experience, I think there's a little bit more trust there. But do you trust the offensive line? I I don't think you can because of the injuries. The Clemson, Texas game, again, man, it's it's just been this.

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I know.

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You know?

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I I asked that question because when you look at the quarterbacks in this playoff

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It's fair.

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It's it's it's really up and down for a lot of guys.

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Kevin Jennings at SMU. Yeah. He's a kid that again, I don't know how many people listening to this or watching this that watched SMU football this year, but they started with Preston Stone, who's a little bit more traditional, and now they've got a version of a of a dual threat guy that they spread you out. You gotta try to cover everybody, and then this guy's back there running around and has the ability to take off and run, has the ability to keep it alive and throw. He he would be an interesting matchup for the Penn State defense.

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My big concern for SMU in that game is, like, you would think, the line of scrimmage on both sides. I mean, Penn State, I thought, pushed Oregon around pretty well in the Big 10 championship game at the line of scrimmage. So how will SMU do it? And I looked at this morning at the forecast. All 3 games in Columbus, South Bend, and State College, no snow, but you're talking about in the in the twenties.

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20 degrees. Not that it it favor I and a lot of people are like, that favors Ohio State and Notre Dame, and I guess we'll see if it does. A lot of Ohio State's roster is from Georgia, North Carolina, Florida. So I don't know how it necessarily favors, these teams in the north. I guess I guess we'll see.

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It's been a big, big conversation p point. You know, when the playoff first started, it's like teams from the north are like, it's about time those teams from the south come up here and deal with the cold weather. Well, now you get your chance, you know, in 2 of those games, and we'll see if it becomes a factor or not. But, Ben, Big hit, that's a great question on who do you trust. Yeah.

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Because I don't I don't know if it's just been too inconsistent with most of these guys all year to really know who is that guy you can trust.

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Yeah. It's it's Dylan Gabriel and Drew Auer. It's kind of really where that's probably where I stop. And it's not saying the other guys aren't good. It's just like I'm talking about 3rd and long, down 4 with, you know, 5 minutes left.

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And How about Georgia's situation? I know he's complaining. How about that?

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Yeah. It's

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great. Publicly have they talked publicly since that game about what's going on?

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I've I've haven't heard anything. I'm more concerned about their punter their punter being injured. That's that's the real explanation.

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That guy's a stud.

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He's a beast.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. So wait. With, with Texas quarterback situation, though, are you a little bit surprised that Arch didn't get more playing time in the SEC championship game? Because I felt like there was a moment where where Sarr could he had a lever that he could've pulled, and he chose not to pull it. I don't know if that was intentional because he wanted to save him for the for the playoff or if he was just like, you know what?

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Ewers is my guy. We're gonna we're gonna live and die with Quinn. But do you expect to see more of Arch?

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Man, again, go back to that 8 overtime Friday night game with Georgia and Georgia Tech and and think about what happened to Georgia's defense. I know it's a different set of circumstances, but Georgia Tech ran a lot of zone read and power read and gave the quarterback an opportunity to utilize his legs or his arm depending on how the defense of Georgia reacted. And they had so much, success in that game that the next game was gonna be against Texas. And I just thought that Sark, much like he did against Texas a and m, he would just have a little package in the red zone or short yardage to go to Arch and, as you say, pull that lever. I thought I thought fresh off that Georgia Tech game, he saw something he might be able to attack using Arch's ability to attack the edges, but he didn't do it.

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Yeah.

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And doesn't mean he's putting Arch away. I just think for whatever reason, only only Sartre knows. He's 1 of the great offensive minds in the game. For whatever reason, he stuck with Quinn throughout almost every snap of that game. And it makes you wonder, you know, in their in their next matchup against Clemson and down the road, how much arch will be a factor?

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Because that dude I know everybody wants to compare him to to his his uncles, but he's probably more like his grandfather

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Mhmm.

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Than he is his uncles as far as and he's much bigger and stronger. I look looking at this guy. You know, it's 1 thing you look at him on TV. You think you go on the pregame and you you look at these guys in person. Some of these guys just look so different than what your your perception of them is.

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And Arch is 1 of those guys. I mean, his legs I don't know if he lives under a squat rack. That dude is put together. He's not just a a tall, slippery boy. He's quick.

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He is powerful dude who can spin it. You talk about an excitement of where you wanna see Texas next year with Arch having an entire off season to build his game, but he's nothing like Peyton. He's nothing like Eli. He's really nothing like his grandfather who was a really athletic guy. He's his own guy, and he's he's he's got the size that they all have, but his strength and his athletic ability, who knows what what Sark will do in the off season to build the offense around him.

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And who knows if if Arch will get an opportunity here, these these, these next potential 4 games Yeah. That Texas might be playing. I hope we see more of them. He's fun.

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Manning shouldn't be allowed to be fast. Mhmm. That's it's weird seeing him run with a ball. Yeah. It's like, come on, man.

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You just stay in the pocket. Maybe once every 3 years, do a naked bootleg, and then everybody, like, stands up and claps and laughs while you try to run for a first down. That's that's the Manning that's the Manning way.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Not this guy. Wow. This dude. This dude's gonna do now I don't know if they're gonna protect him from himself next year, but if he plays the way he wants to play, he's gonna be running around people, over people. You know, if if you're a safety coming up there to tackle that guy, it's like tackling a tight end.

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You know what

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I mean? That that's basically who's athletic. So, yeah, we'll we'll see. We'll see. Yeah.

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I think it's a game to game approach for Sark and how they use arch and if they do. And that I'll mention, imagine a fan base. It reminds me of Tebow in in 06 when he was a true freshman, and Chris Leek was the quarterback. But every time there'd be short yardage or red zone, the crowd at the swamp would go crazy just with the idea that 15 might come jogging onto the field. And he would.

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And they were, like, begging Urban to bring him out, and it became almost it's Chris Leek who's quarterbacking 90% of the game, but it almost became like as the fans were just completely consumed with Tim Tebow even though he's just doing short yardage. Mhmm. And that kinda reminds me a little bit of Texas. This is Quinn Ewer's team, but there's such anticipation and so much excitement about Arch Manning taking over. And I wonder if that impacts Sark inside the locker room on protecting Quinn and protecting kind of that feeding into that energy by not putting, Arch out there as much as as maybe you might think.

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Yeah. Sartre's a Sartre's a whatever it takes to win kinda guy, but I also think he's mindful of the makeup of his team, and Quinn Ewers is his quarterback. You know? And and I know that's impacted Quinn a little bit psychologically. Just, hey, I'm the guy, and yet they kinda are rooting for the other guy.

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So I think it's a little bit tricky on how on how they manage that at this point in in 2024.

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Yeah. It's tough. So, looking at these games, the spreads are pretty big. They go from what last I checked, I think it was 7 to 12 point favorites in each game. If you had to pick 1 upset, because there's gonna be 1, who would it be?

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What's the what's the IU Notre Dame?

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7a half is what I'm looking at right now. I don't know if that's moved.

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I I

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would say IU. I'd probably say IU would would be, what's the Tennessee, spread?

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I believe that's a touchdown.

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Yeah. I think you know, I'm not picking either 1 of those teams, but I I mean, you could make a pretty strong case if you're a Tennessee fan or you're gonna vote you know, bet on Tennessee, until you see the Ohio State offensive line more productive, against a talented front. There's no reason to to think that both those games, the the underdog should have a shot to be competitive and and maybe pull off an upset.

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Yeah. I do love the drama behind the scenes of the Tennessee fans being like, yeah. That stadium's gonna be 30% orange, buddy. Mhmm.

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You imagine that they get 45100 fan. What's Ohio Stadium these days? Over a 100,000.

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Yeah.

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Right? Yeah. You you you you get, basically, 3% of the stadium is gonna be in orange. Yeah. If you know, there's no you you believe they'll they maybe get 30,000 people there?

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No way.

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It'd be a testament to the fan base. Yeah.

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It would be.

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I saw another a post. I don't know

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if it was from game day operations at Ohio State or if it was from somebody else that showed what the color orange looks like underneath their, like, LED lights that they have, and it looks red. And so now Ohio State is like, yeah. Wear your orange. We're gonna turn you red. It's a it's a it's been a fun, like, behind the scenes battle.

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Yeah. Yeah. I I think it is. And it's a scarlet out. Right?

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So they're gonna do the scar the whole stadium if they follow the the, the direction of of what Ohio State's requesting. So it'd be all scarlet and then bright, bright orange.

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Mhmm. So you're right. You're right. Terrible mix of colors when you put them together. Good on their own.

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Maybe not great together. Alright.

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And Ohio

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State's wearing those all scarlet unis.

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I know. They're doing color rush. I don't like that. They're doing color rush.

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Wear your wear wear your uniform.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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It's a classic. Wear it.

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Matter of fact, take all the stickers off

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the helmet. Like, you start new it's a new season. Right?

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Yeah. 4 games.

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That's a good idea. I

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like that.

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More games. Maybe put on the hell the the stickers during the game.

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Yeah. There you go.

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Add them during the game. Alright. So, Herbie, this has been awesome. I got 1 last question. It's a Rhoback question.

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Rhoback.com, promo code take. 20% off your first purchase, q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roeback.com, promo code take, 20% off. Last question for you is not about the playoff. It was big story, obviously, last week.

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Bill Belichick going to North Carolina. How do you think this is gonna work? Do you think it's gonna I mean, I I'm of the belief that there is definitely a market for a coach in college to be almost like, Calipari when he figured out the 1 and done before anyone else and being like, hey, guys. I'm not gonna sell you on education. I'm not gonna sell you on, you know, we like, this is a community.

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I'm gonna sell you on come here. I'll teach you how to be a pro, and the scouts are gonna know that if you can handle my system, you're a value in the NFL, and I'm gonna get guys drafted.

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I would say part it's part that. Just put yourself as an 18 year old recruit and knock on the door, and it's Bill Belichick at the door or or on the phone. Honey, coach Belichick's on the phone. I mean, imagine what that would the power of that. Right?

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But I'm telling you guys, Bill Belichick, he's 1 of those guys that if he if he ended up coaching high school football in Annapolis, I would not have been surprised.

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Right.

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He is a he's not caught up in all the bullshit, all the noise that we all get caught up in. He is just an old school football coach. And I really think that his dad had a major impact on his decisions and what he does. I think there's part of him that's probably always been pulling at him to be on a college campus because of his time at Annapolis with his dad and and before that, in places like North Carolina. And I really think as much as you guys are saying, hey.

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Don't worry about the education. We're gonna go build this roster, and we're gonna go win a championship. I think he's gonna think about how I do both. I really I I know his reputation is NFL and and building a roster and winning and winning Super Bowls, but I think there's part of him that I think is actually gonna enjoy getting kids to buy into the demands of academics because of his background. I I don't think it's gonna be, hey.

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You didn't go to class. Screw it. We're getting ready to win this game. I just don't think it that's him. I just I I think he's gonna the reason it took 2 weeks, we kept hearing, wait, they interviewed him?

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Like, how

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do you how do you interview Bill Belichick? Like, it's 1 of those, if he says, yeah, I'm interested, it's like, you take it. But remember, it went it went for a while. So I'm sure he sit sat there and just gathered so much intel. Not only I need this for NIL, I need this for private plane, like, whatever it is he needed.

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But I think he wanted to learn, like, the ramifications and the and the guidelines of, like, what are we doing here? What's this world? So when he did step to the podium, it was almost like in his mind, like, okay. I can answer any question. I've studied this and analyze this job and what it takes so much that I know what it I I I'm ready to go, and I'm ready to take it.

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And I I think you guys are gonna be surprised by what he builds. I don't think it's just gonna be about, sure, he's gonna try to win the national championship. That's obvious. And if you look at their schedule, they're in the playoff next year. Like, I mean, there there there's a very strong chance that North Carolina I think their 1 game that makes you scratch their head your head is Clemson.

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Other than that, they might be favored in every game they play. Yeah. So get used to him getting teams to knocking on the door of the ACC championship and into the playoff, but I do think he's gonna do the academic side. I I that's just me. Maybe I'm wrong just from the time I've spent with him.

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I I think he he wants to make that a priority as well, which I applauded if he can pull it off.

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Yeah. Herbie, we are a a national sports podcast, and very rarely do we use our platform and advocate for something up. But I feel like it's an appropriate time, and I wanna put your feet to the fire on this because you might not be in charge of it, but I think you you have a say. You're a college football icon. You can make change if you believe in it enough.

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The Doctor Pepper Tuition Challenge Mhmm. Is out of hand.

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Mhmm.

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The chess passes are ruining America. Might be symbolic of everything that's wrong with America right now, actually, but it's feeding into it. Can we do something about that? Either move the challenge back a little bit or mandate that they have to throw with 1 arm like a quarterback. It's a football game.

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It's not a basketball game. Make your passes with 1 hand. I wanna I wanna see a spiral. Can we do something about that?

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Ro, I love that. You know, I used to do the acreage challenge, and we would throw it from 25 yards, I think. 20 or 25 yards. And the target was just about the size of a basketball. I mean, it was hard.

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And you would throw that thing. It was almost like trying to make a shot from half court. I'm with you. The the you know, everybody it's almost like pop a shot. They're just firing that thing away.

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Right.

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And it it doesn't take any ability at all. Right? So I think that I think you're onto something. I think you move it back at least another 10 yards

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Yeah.

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To take away that that would take away the the chess pass. And let me let me get down on the field next time I'm in a game. I'll get to the bottom of this. I'll I'll find out what's up because it is embarrassing.

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You know, it's

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They've ruined it. I don't

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blame the competitors. It's like it's like the challenge portal. That's the best way to do it.

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Right. It's easier to do. You have a Yeah.

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They figured out the answer. Right. They figured out the answer.

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Right.

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Yeah. So the game has to evolve as the players evolve with it. So either I think you can either move it back a little bit or just say, hey. You have to have 1 hand. It has to go above your shoulders.

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Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I'll I'll bring that up if, I don't know the Doctor Pepper folks. But if I'm in a game and I'm down in the field, I'm gonna make it at a a point to go over there and try to get to bottom of that.

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I'll and I'll, again, I'll I'll report back on that as well.

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Yeah. All all it would take is you if you boycott if you boycott a game, maybe just don't even talk for an entire half. Yeah. Just saying. You you have the power.

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I'm I'm I'm boycotting a game unless you get this shit fixed.

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Yes. That's who

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we are right now.

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Yes. Yeah.

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Well, thank you for not boycotting the second half of the niners Rams game. Yeah. That must have been tough. That would

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have been a fair boycott. That was tough. That tests us.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Man, we've had a ridiculous year in a positive standpoint. I mean, our games have been awesome. The ratings are off the charts. And on paper, that looked like a really, really good game, and it just wasn't. It was just it was brutal.

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We got through it. But, yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to this Thursday, and then

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And then then I got

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a good soldier field to finish it all.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Good luck with that. Good luck with that. Alright, Herbie. Thanks so much, man.

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We real really appreciate it. You're the best, and, have fun this weekend.

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Okay. We now welcome on a very special guest. He is of incredible actor, comedian, wrestler, Paul Walter Hauser. Paul, thank you for joining us. The wrestling part, I gotta admit, I didn't fully understand.

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You're a wrestler, and you are part of Major League Wrestling. How did that start? I wanna talk about the acting, but I I was I was raised on, the Attitude Era. So I I I I'm not as much into wrestling right now, but I I still love wrestling. How did you start with the wrestling?

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Sure. Yeah. No. I,

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I

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had done a wrestling show for charity that this guy, Sammy Callahan, put on. Him and Jon Moxley were trying to raise some money for the wildfire relief in, Hawaii. This is November of last year. And, it went from me, like, showing up to sign some autographs or do free selfies or whatever. It turned into, hey.

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Do you wanna have a wrestling match? And that was secretly always a desire of mine to try it. And I had been taking little classes here and there, learning from other wrestlers, and so I did this 10 minute match with a guy named Matthew Palmer, and it went really well. And I had a lot of fun, and there was sort of an adrenaline spike unlike anything I'd ever felt before. And I I played, like, junior high sports, and I've done stand up comedy in front of, you know, 1500 people.

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Nothing I've ever done felt as good as that. So

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Really?

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I continue to pursue it and and kinda doggedly got these other bookings and wrestled other reputable guys, and you learn a lot from them when you're working with them. And and I'm now telling people that through MLW and a couple other companies, I'm I'm doing, like, a reverse Dwayne Johnson.

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That's awesome. I love that. Yeah. That sounds like a lot of fun. That what's the what's the biggest pop you've gotten?

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Oh, man. The biggest pop I've gotten was probably probably when, when in my first match when I did the crane kick, and the 6 inch punch as a finisher. It was very theatrical, and I think people were wondering what my move style was going to be like. Uh-huh. And, obviously, I'm not doing backflip soft stuff or anything, but I'm I'm doing, you know, body slams and suplexes, and then I pulled out the Cobra Kai style, you know, crane kick, and people went pretty ape.

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That was that was a good pop.

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You you mentioned The Rock. It is I mean, it's very funny because most the most wrestlers, they wrestle and then they get into music or, you know, movies because they're so good at wrestling. You're just like, I was such a good actor. Now I wanna chase my 1 true love wrestling.

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Yeah. I I mean, I have a lot of different loves, from an occupational standpoint. I I my heroes are guys like Rob Reiner and Kendrick Lamar and, Sting who, you know, wrestled famously for WCW during the Attitude Era. And I just wanna partake in those worlds whenever it makes sense or whenever I think I can do it. And I I haven't directed a film yet, but I intend to.

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I write a lot of movies. I've made some music, and now I'm trying this wrestling thing out. And, I think a lot of people a lot of haters online who don't like it and think it's, like, super lame, but at the same time, I think there's a place for everybody in wrestling. There's there's different types of people the same way in hip hop. You have Earl sweatshirt and you have action Bronson and you have Drake.

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These are different styles within the the form. Yeah. And so I'm just 1 of those, many styles in that form, I think.

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I think if you're having fun doing it, people will appreciate it. Yeah. They'll see the passion.

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And I'm just trying to put it over in in the mainstream too of, like, if if if I could someday get nominated for an Oscar or or a Tony award, but I'm also doing an independent wrestling show in front of 800 people, I think that's kinda awesome. I I like the idea of like like, if it were reversed and I'm just watching somebody do it, if if a random character actor like a John c Riley or Paul Giamatti showed up at a wrestling show and wrestled and they're actually decent, I'd be very entertained by that. And I'd I'd find it fascinating.

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Yeah. I mean, you could be you could have your own EGOT, the EGOT plus. You get the Emmy, the Grammy, the Oscar, the Tony, and also heavyweight champion of the world.

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Yeah. Or US champ or, or open weight champion in MLW. We'll see. I'll see how far I can take it.

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Yeah. So you you mentioned the Oscar, and, it's interesting you brought that up because we have said on this show I think we had a Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. Or no. No. It was Matt Damon and Casey Affleck on the show.

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And I said that if I could put in a bet, a future a future bet for somebody to win an Oscar for best actor, it would be you. Because I I love you and everything that you're in. You've you've played a wide variety of characters. Do you feel like that's a possibility? Do that do you see roles come across your desk and you're like, you know what?

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I feel like this this could be 1 that's critically acclaimed.

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Thanks, man. Yeah. I I somebody sent me that clip the day it came out. A couple, people that I I didn't know were, like, diehard PMT fans. They were all hitting me up and sending me that clip.

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It was very, humbling sweet. I I think anyone can win an Oscar if but it's not even about acumen. Like, they're so great. They're gonna win an Oscar. It's usually about the marriage of the role with the with the performer.

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Right?

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Mhmm.

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So, you know, there are people who back in the day in 93, 94, they looked at Brendan Fraser and Jamie Foxx, and they were like, oh, the guy from Encino Man? Oh, the guy from In Living Color? And then they won Oscars for the whale and Ray. So, you know, it's really just about that right, marriage of role. I think I've had a couple roles that could have been nominated based on what they were and me showing up and doing the job.

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But but, yeah, I'm I'm still looking for that thing where I get to really pop in a great movie and, and have some form of impact. You know?

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Yeah. I mean, I I thought the the Richard Jewell movie, I was was incredible. I thought that was

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Good movie.

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Yeah. I mean, that was a movie where I was just like, your ability to, like, be Richard Jewell and have this complicated guy who's, like, you feel bad for and but, you know, he's just trying to do the right thing. That was that was 1 of those movies that I always base my movies on if I'm thinking about it the next day when I wake up, that means it's a good movie, and that was absolutely the case for for that movie.

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Oh, that's awesome, man. Yeah. No. I I think that's a there's a couple movies I've gotten to do that I just think will stand the test of time, and I think, luckily, I'm in that Eastwood ether where whether he's alive or or in 20 years when he's gone, it'll be the kind of thing where people will revisit that because it was Eastwood. And I think that's the same with BlacKkKlansman.

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Yeah. It's Spike Lee. It's Adam Driver. It's, you know, it's it's this big film that did well, and then and I think I, Tonya, too with being such a, time capsule piece for the 19 nineties and being a Margot Robbie thing where I felt like that in Wolf of Wall Street and Suicide Squad were the things that said this is, like, someone to pay attention to. This is someone who's crushing it.

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Yeah. Are you Are you that?

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It's fun it's fun to be in those movies. I mean, you're never guaranteed that, but, like, when they come across your proverbial desk, it's like, oh, sick. I get to work with Craig Gillespie or Spike Lee or Clint Eastwood.

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Yeah. Are you are you nervous at all that you're being typecast as secondary characters to the Olympics?

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I I listen. I'm hoping I'm hoping 20 years from now, I put the stash on. I can play the, I can play the, gymnast coach for, what's what's the name of that girl?

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Bella Carolli. Right? Bella Carolli.

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Carrie Strug.

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

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Carrie Strug.

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I I gotta play Carrie Strug's,

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Gymnast coach.

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Yeah. Gymnast coach in, like, 20, 30 years. Right?

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Yeah. Yeah. You can do that. I I believe you could pull it off. It it the rich

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It's it's so weird, dude. It's so weird that, like, it's so weird that I'm playing Chris Farley in this biopic next year because Farley famously played Sean Eckhart, my character in Itania, in the the monolog sketch with, Nancy Kerrigan when she hosted.

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Yeah. Yeah. That is crazy.

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And and, they famously Jay Leno famously said when the Richard Jewell thing happened, like, this guy kinda looks like the guy, that whacked, Nancy Kerrigan. Right?

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And it

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was like a famous late night joke that he referenced these 2 people together, and then Farley also was on SNL, and Richard Jewell ended up being on SNL. Yeah. After the whole debacle. So it's like there's just some weird incestuous creative thing going on with these roles. I don't know what it is.

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So so with Chris Farley, that must have been fascinating to to play him in a biopic. I can't wait to watch it. I have to assume that you learned a lot about Chris as you're studying for the role. What what have you learned about him that maybe you didn't know going into it?

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Well, you know, even before I got the role and we haven't shot it yet. We're gonna shoot it next year at some point probably later in the year. But, I I I knew so much about Chris going in because I was just a fan. So I kind of was reading up on him and ingesting Chris Farley stuff the way you would if you were preparing for a role. And and I kinda knew most everything about him.

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What I found interesting is, you know, he, he he had this, like, very highly intellectual side where him and Tim Meadows used to go to foreign films when they were doing second city in Chicago, and, you know, Chris had these really deep conversations with his female friends that sometimes he couldn't have with his male friends. And there was just a very intellectual sensitive side that not everybody got to see, especially if they were, like, a newer friend when he had already been very famous. Yeah. I think I think, you know, in in telling that story, we hope to show the duality of him as there's a duality to to many of us.

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Yeah. Are are you is it not nervous is the right word, but Chris Farley's beloved. And so do you feel pressure, like, doing this movie where you're like, I know that everyone loves Chris Farley, so I have to I have to get to a point where it's like people are like, you did you did him, you know, justice almost in in playing him.

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I think I love Chris so much that I'm incapable of letting Chris and I mean, I I can't I'm not incapable of letting his fans down. People somebody can order a steak and you give them exactly the filet they ordered, and they're still not happy. Right.

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And

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they send it back to the kitchen. Some people are impossible. But I love Chris so much that I'm not worried about keeping his memory alive in a in an authentic and loving way.

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Yeah.

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I know I'm going to do that. And that's not cockiness. That's once again knowing what you're capable of too and knowing that there are certain things you are just meant to do in some way. You know? Like, I I, like, I I met up with John Farley a couple years ago to talk about this being a possibility, his brother John.

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And I gave him my phone number, and he goes, why is your number already in my phone? My number was already in John Farley's phone, and we had never met. It said Paul Houser when he typed in the the number. Weird things like that have been happening for a while, and I think some people are just supposed to play certain people. I think Jamie Foxx, God, his parents, like, there's something in the ether that knew he was gonna play that role, and I think this is 1 of those things that I was supposed to play.

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Jeff Bridges, when he got his first role, he has a story about how he told the director, like, I don't think I'm doing a good job. I think this is a mistake. You should fire me. And the director just said, no. I chose you.

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You're right for the role. You couldn't screw this up if you wanted to. You're the guy. And, I think sometimes you're just the guy. You know?

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Yeah. Yeah. Wow. When it comes to playing a role like that, do you go do you go, like, full time into character, or do you, you know, when the cameras are on, you flip the switch?

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Well, I haven't done it yet. I've only start or costarred in 3 or 4 things. I think Jewel, Blackbird, this thing I did with Mark Wahlberg, he and I were it was like a 2 hander. We're both in all the scenes. We've only done it, like, 4 or 5 times maybe.

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So I starring in something is way more taxing than I, Tanya, Black Klaynsen. I, Tanya, or BlacKkKlansman, I get to show up. I'm doing my finger guns, and I walk out. Mhmm. But starring in something is is exhausting, in a way that I kind of didn't know until I did it.

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So I my hope is that I can do my homework to in a degree of precision and aggression that when I'm on set, I can be very calm and not in character. Yeah. That's my hope is that I do the homework enough to still be emotionally available to the crew and the cast because you don't wanna alienate people. Even if you are doing a job, it's like I it's too important to me to be social with people and to be on the level to alienate them. So when I watched the Jim Carrey documentary about him and Andy Kaufman, I saw that Jim had kind of alienated a lot of people in his process.

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Jim Carrey, who I adore, by the way. But that process of kind of, like, alienating people or pushing them away, I I've sort of decided I'm not gonna do that.

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when you're acting in a a show like Blackbird, and it's probably not the I don't know. Is it a fun role when you're playing a a psychopathic serial killer? Like, do you have fun?

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Because you did first of all, just say, like, you did an amazing job

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in Oh, thanks.

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In that show. It was incredible. But I can't imagine that it would be an enjoyable time for you to spend in character as, like, the scummiest person to ever live.

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It depends on everyone's process, but it was not fun for me. I can tell you that much. I was not in a good place personally when I shot that. Mentally, emotionally, it was not a good place. Spiritually, not a good place.

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And, was definitely ingesting a lot of marijuana and alcohol when I wasn't on set. And, and in and, also, we shot in New Orleans. That's a pretty spiritually thick place. You can kinda feel the air a little bit there sometimes. And and I would say that the way I played the character, my process was I have to think the thoughts.

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I can't just say the lines and hope that it seems real. I had to kinda get into the icky of it. Mhmm. And so having to think the thoughts to have it register in the eyes when you say lines of dialog, you feel very guilty when you rap at the end of the day. You feel gross.

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Yeah. And, you know, I only did it because of the damn character, but it's also a little mentally exhausting, and you feel really gross. So, yeah, I know that character was hard to play. That wasn't easy, and it wasn't fun. What was fun was the fact that the writing was good, and I was getting paid decent, and I was working with brilliant actors like Greg Kinnear and Taron Egerton.

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So so after a day on set there, do you is there something that you would do to, like, cleanse yourself to to wipe that day away?

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Yeah. And I didn't cleanse myself well. Like I was saying, I would I would grab a sandwich from Turkey and the Wolf, and I'd get stoned, and I'd

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Mhmm.

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Sip a cocktail. But, a lot of self medicating, but I I the sort of PG things I part that I was partaking in were me and my buddy Anthony Peddocks would go shoot hoops at a local, you know, court in in somebody's neighborhood in New Orleans, or we we play Super Nintendo or watch Curb Your Enthusiasm. Like, there were things that kinda, like, were pressure releases.

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Mhmm.

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Yeah. And, and, yeah, Larry David was very influential to me being able to laugh at the end of a a dark, awkward day.

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Yeah. Yeah. So you you've done drama. You've done comedy. Is there 1 that you prefer more than the other at this point

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in your career? I think I prefer drama because there's just a complexity to it that has more of a variance and a diversity. Comedy sort of can feel redundant sometimes, and that's also why even your favorite comedians make comedy movies that you don't like. Mhmm. You know, Leo, every time Leo or Denzel do Leo or Denzel in a drama, we're all just like, boom, another 1.

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Yeah. Right.

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But, like, comedy, there are brilliant people who do comedy and were like, that movie sucked. Why isn't it as good as the 1 they made 8 years ago?

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Right.

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It's like, well, comedy can get very redundant. And after a while, you learn somebody's stick whereas, like, drama, you're living in different worlds and different moods, and you can keep them guessing a little bit better. So I think I I enjoy watching and doing drama more, but at the same time, my roots are entirely stand up and sketch comedy. I grew up on Jim Gaffigan and Monty Python and, you know, Chris Farley, Eddie Murphy, and everything.

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Yeah. What wait. So when did you start doing stand up? Because that was how you started. Right?

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Yeah. When I was 16, I started writing screenplays and started doing stand up comedy.

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Oh, wow.

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That was, like, the year it got really aggressive where I was like, I'm going full throttle, full bore. And, my last few years of high school, I did 3 plays a year, wrote for the school newspaper, did choir, was in barbershop quartet, was class president 1 year, was writing scripts and doing stand up. So it was like I was trying to do the John Cena, Dwayne Johnson schedule before I was actually able to do that type of schedule. I was nuts. And, and, yeah, I I thought stand up or screenwriting might be a way to break in.

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I didn't know how to break into Hollywood. I thought, well, they say you can climb the wall. You can break through the wall. You can pay someone to get you through the wall. What's my way?

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I'll just try all the things. And, what I would find out is that stand up is incredibly hard to break into even if you're decent. And I think I was I don't think I was good. I think I was decent. And, I think I think I got away from stand up because I just didn't want that lifestyle of you're in a depressing atmosphere.

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You have to wind your wheel up on your back and make these people laugh, and you're constantly having to prove yourself. Whereas I could go into an audition, and 2 minutes into the audition, they're like, you got the job. You're the guy.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Like, it's so much easier than stand up in my opinion. Yeah. And you get treated exponentially better.

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So so what point in your career were you like, alright. I think I've broke not broken through, but, like, this is this is people are noticing, and I feel like they they see something in me.

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I I think, I was telling somebody, I think, like, the show kingdom that I did about the MMA fighters of Frank Grillo and Matt Loria, Jonathan Tucker, Nick Jonas. That show was sort of my, like, associate's degree and me breaking in. I, Tonya was, like, the end of the associate's degree where it's like you're getting your bachelor's now. People know your face, but not your name. And then Richard Jewell is, like, sort of the last year of the bachelor's degree where it's like, hey.

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You are you are, peep people now are starting to know your name, and they're starting to think of you in a different light because you're not just a silly idiot. You can you can act too. And, and I think Blackbird is, like, the start of of trying to gain a master's degree.

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Yeah. Mhmm.

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Yeah. I'm trying to do that right now. The next 4 years is me trying to get the master's degree and in my early forties. Hopefully, I'm I'm mastering this stuff. And and, you know, you look at a quarterback, that's about the age.

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Early forties is like, okay. You've put in your time, and now you are. That's your legacy right now. We know Tom Brady is Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers.

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Yeah. I like I think I I think you will be, like, 1 of the biggest actors in the world in the next 10 years.

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From your mouth to my business manager's ears.

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You should be. You should be. We we said I this might have been the same interview, but you should play Andy Reid in the Andy Reid biopic. Mhmm.

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Oh, yeah. Damon was like, I'm gonna hit Hauser up about that. I'm like, he never hit me up.

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Oh. He

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didn't hit you up?

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Where's where's my Andy Reid phone? No.

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Yeah.

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I am developing a movie with with, Ben and Matt, though, something that I'm gonna act in and produce and I co wrote.

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Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome. Wait. And you're are you a Jets fan? Did I read that right?

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So here's the story on that. I, 2 years ago, got an email 2, 2 and a half years ago saying the Jets organization would like to invite you to get 2 to 4 VIP passes and sit in the owner's suite.

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Okay.

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And I was, like, not in New York at the time, and I was a lifelong Packer fan. Was like, I I this is weird. Like, I wonder what propelled them to do that.

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They're recruiting fans. Yeah.

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Who knows? And I I, then I got this movie, the Springsteen movie I'm doing right now in Jersey, and I was like, I wonder if that offer is still on the table. I literally went to my Google emails and was, like, looking up jets in the search engine of my past emails, found the email, and emailed my PR people and was like, like, hey. I know it's 2 it's like an enormous Donald voice. Yeah.

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Yeah. I know it's a 2 and a half years later, but, and I still go to a Jets game

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for free. But

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hell, yeah. I'm I I'll just say I'm a Jets fan. You

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know? Mhmm.

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So I I did that, and they were like, let us check. They were like, probably weary about it. And then there I was, 2 days ago. Was it what day is today? Monday?

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Yeah. Yesterday. So yesterday, I was at the Jets game with my buddy Darren, and, we're sitting with, you know, the owner or co owner, Chris Johnson, and his wife, Doris, and they could not have been sweeter and nicer and more down to earth. And we're noshing on lobster rolls and eclairs and watching the game surrounded by all these wealthy people that I felt very out of place with.

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So so so not a jets fan, but then you got to see your old quarterback because you're a Packers fan, your old quarterback Aaron Rodgers play. It's not going well.

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It's, it's rough because all the talent's there, but not everything's connecting. You know? And, and and it's it's, you know, it's tough too. Like, not everybody can stay so you can be talented, but not have the sharp or crispness that you once had, and it doesn't mean you're not good. It just means you're a 42 year old quarterback or a 44 year old quarterback.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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And I think actors are like that too to bring it back to acting. It's like some actors, and I won't say their name as to not be rude, but when they get older, they're just not as sharp. Right. And it doesn't mean you don't enjoy them. It just means they don't have that Christmas.

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And then there are some that stand the test of time and are giving psychotically good performances in their eighties nineties, and that that class of actors like a sir Anthony Hopkins. Yeah. Anthony Hopkins can still be as good as he was in silence of the lambs

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tomorrow. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah.

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And that's a very rare thing, and I think, you know, Rogers, the best days are probably behind, but I loved watching him. And, I met him at the SP's. We did a comedy skit together, and he could not have been cooler. We we had a lot of fun talking to each other.

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Wait. So so that's something interesting you you bring up. I never really thought of, like, is there a not an expiration date, but is there a career arc for an actor where it's like they become washed up? And is that something that you actually think about in the back of your head where you're like, I have I'm in my prime right now. I gotta I gotta work, work, work because who knows at 60, will I still have it?

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I don't worry about that so much because I also know I'm fiercely competitive, and, and I'm not fully mentally well. So I know that when I'm 60, I'll still be getting weird Yeah. And doing different stuff. Doesn't mean I'm better than so and so. It just means that's how I'm built.

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I think I may be proven wrong in 30 years. You know? Who knows? But, my hope is that when I'm 60 and maybe have a couple more nominations or something under my belt, and some people are like, that's a classy actor. That's a real actor, that guy.

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Like, I hope I hope I'm still showing up and doing shows like I think you should leave with Tim Robinson.

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Yeah.

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I hope I'm still showing up at WrestleMania, and someone's putting me through a table. Or I hope, you know, I hope MLW is still having me back, and I you know, like, these are these are the things I do think about is never take away your self amusement and your your competitive spirit and your your sense of play, and I I don't think that'll happen to you. You know?

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What's it like being competitive as an actor?

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Dude, people don't even think about the way I think about it. I'm I'm a weirdo. Like, I I'm way too insecure

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and in

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my head with competitive nature. I I don't think guys like Paul Dano and Adam Driver think the way I think. I think they're very content focused, and they probably don't think about it as much. I I very much think about the guys in my bracket, and I'm you know? Aaron Paul said to me very early in my career, I did a movie with him that few people saw.

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And, Aaron Paul gave me advice. He said, you gotta beat the town. Who are you the next of? Who are you up against? Who are the guys you see at all your auditions?

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You gotta beat those guys out. And I kept a list of, like, 30, 40 guys that I was slowly trying to get all the jobs. And then, eventually, there were, like, me and 4 or 5 other guys in the top bracket, and I was like, damn. Okay. And now I'm at the point where if these 3 people pass, they come to me.

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So it's like, I'm still in my head, I'm still like I still have this dogged obsession of I wanna I wanna be the guy that gets the offer before them. Yeah. But, you know, that also never stops because Christian Bale says that about DiCaprio. He has been very vocal about saying, like, if DiCaprio passes, I get the offer. And it's like so maybe that happens forever.

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You know? Yeah.

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Yeah. Or is do you pay attention to the guys that are coming up behind you too? The the relatively new guys, are you like, this guy, he's getting a little too close to me. I need to separate myself.

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Oh, no. No. No. Never that. It's all support.

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It's all love. It's, it's just me trying to make me the best, not to anyone else's detriment or put down. It's just me trying to show my teeth every time I open my mouth. That's all.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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But I I I love the guys coming up. I love Will Poulter, Fred Hechinger, Joseph Quinn. Chalamet is great. Like, there there's a lot of guys coming up that are great, I think.

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So what's the story of, the rumor that surrounded you, the Quentin Tarantino rumor?

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Fake news.

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What happened with that?

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It's all fake news. It's, Tarantino and I have never had a meeting. He's never contacted me. Some random blog site said that I was in contention or it was overheard, that I've been offered the lead in the movie critic, and it was news to me, and me and my manager are freaking out. I remember I was sitting on the toilet on my cell phone.

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I'm, like, texting, and suddenly I my phone blows up, and I go on Twitter, and it was just like, and all these people are talking about it. I was like, what the hell is going on? And, you know, for us, we thought maybe it was true, and we just hadn't been given the offer. Maybe somebody internally spilled the beans at a luncheon at the San Vicente bungalows, and somebody texted somebody, and they put it online. You know?

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You never know. Yeah. But, but they turned out that, I guess, Bill Maher had Tarantino on his show, the basement show that looks like everybody's a prisoner to Bill.

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Oh, yeah. The 1 where he, like, smokes weed in front of Hawke to a girl and

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asks her about every

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set of dishes.

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Everybody looks like a kept woman while he drinks and gets hot. Yeah. But, yeah, he he and Tarantino very briefly talked about me, and Mar was kinda putting me over saying, like, he was in Richard Jewell. He was good, and Tarantino was like, yeah. He's been in a few things, but whatever.

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I think people just thought I was gonna cast him because, you know, he looks like he could be a movie critic. And I was like, oh, like, it it totally was like a like a kidney shot from a boxer. I had to I had to take a knee and be like, oh, that hurt.

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Yeah. Oh,

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I I wish I wasn't contention. But, also, like, you know, there's a real world out there where wars are being fought. If I'm not a Tarantino movie, I think it'll be okay. But Yeah. I I do I do love the guy.

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I love his work, and, you know, I'd love to be a fly on that wall and and do anything in 1 of his movies.

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Yeah. And, also, I think if you're if you're having your name thrown around in baseless rumors for a Quentin Tarantino movie, but they're believable enough where people like, I could see that happen, That's probably a good thing too. Right?

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Certainly. Yeah. It certainly brings a smirk to your face that people can believe that. And, you know, I've had I've had meetings with big name directors who were thinking about using me for something, and for whatever reason, they went another way. And, and if anything, that is just fodder for encouragement.

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Like, hey. You you never know. You could wake up and you could wake up and I could be doing a recurring guest star on a sitcom, or I could be in a Spielberg movie. And that's it's kind of a fun, exciting way to live your life, you know, to to sort of feel the pendulum swinging back and forth. And the key is to just have fun and honor every commitment.

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Treat a scrimmage like the Super Bowl is what I always tell young actors because you never know who's watching, and and you wanna honor the fact that anyone gives a crap about you and gave you a role because they could cast somebody else.

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Yeah. So

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We've got some pretty deep connections in Hollywood. Jerry O'Connell is a good friend of ours. Mhmm. Have you ever met Jerry O'Connell?

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No. But I'm a fan. I I love, his brief but impactful performance in Can't Hardly Wait.

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Mhmm.

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Yep. And, and I've certainly been a fan of his from Stand by Me. Mhmm. And he seems like a nice guy.

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Yeah. I noticed he didn't mention kangaroo Jack or his supermodel wife.

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I I I think it'd be a little shallow to just say that he he's got a hot wife and did the, now cult classic kangaroo Jack. Right? I was trying to go for deeper cuts.

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Yeah. No. No. Supermodel wife, though, you can say right off the top. I loved his wife

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when I was 13.

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Supermodel wife. He's got a supermodel wife. You can Google it. It's facts.

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I'm I'm happy for it. She's a very nice lady. Is it is it Rebecca Romain?

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Yes. It is. Yeah.

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You are. Yeah. You know exactly.

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You're a pervert. You're a pervert. You played that cool. Oh, what's your name? Rebecca Romijn?

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Yeah.

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It's not like I know how to spell her last name, capital r o m I

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That'd be that'd be crazy.

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I would like to see you and Jerry in a movie together. I I feel like that would be

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Yeah. You and Jerry. Jerry's a good actor.

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Mhmm. Or maybe that's, the next hit sitcom is he's my step dad, and and I'm like, we're trying to help each other out, and we're both total messes or something. No.

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I think I think it'd be better if he was your dad, and then Rebecca Romijn is your stepmom.

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And you're always

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Stacy's mom has got it going on.

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There it is. Hey. So you've been in some, you've had some great, like, part roles in in some incredible comedy and sitcom. You were in Reno 911. You're in always sunny.

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Have you have you ever made anyone break, in filming those where you're like, man, this is awesome? Because I always think about that when you're, like, in those big shows, and it's like, yeah. I I made all these funny people laugh.

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Yeah. That happens on occasion. I'm trying to think when it's happened for me. I don't think it was I think I remember breaking I broke Tom Lennon once or twice on Reno, and that was a big feather in the cap.

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Yeah.

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And I broke, I broke a couple of the sunny people once or twice, and that was a big feather in the cap because I I love those shows so much. They're 2 of my favorite shows of all time. So for me, that's that's those moments mean as much as winning a a actor trophy. You know? Like, those are your own trophies that you you get to ponder whenever you're having a bad day.

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Yeah. And it's also I mean, it was is it weird, like, having a show, like, always sunny where it's like you watched it probably as a fan, and then they call you up and, like, hey. We want you to be in.

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Dude, it was nuts. I was I was at call I was dropping out of college in Oak Park River Forest, this place called Concordia University. I was basically dropping out, partying my face off, ballooning up in weight, and writing a movie script for Key and Peele because they had just Mad TV had just gotten canceled, and my manager at the time repped them. He's like, you know, you wanna write a movie for these guys? They're looking for something to do together.

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And, so I'm writing a script for Key and Peele before they have the hit show, and I'm dropping out of college. And most of my days were spent watching dirty work and wet hot American summer and episodes of it's always sunny. And so a year later to be in the room auditioning for the show was crazy. And then and then stepping into the bar, I vividly remember I brought my friend to set, which was such a thing. Like, I had a weird flex back in the day where I just didn't ask permission for anything.

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I would just bring 1 of my buddies to set, and he'd be hanging out with me all day without asking anybody.

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Mhmm.

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So, like, my buddy, Peter and I, Peter Hens, this really funny dude, he and I walked into the set of it's always sunny. And walking into that bar and seeing everything, it was like it was it was like the wizard of Oz or something. Like, we we could not believe we're in the bar of it's always sunny.

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Yeah. Yeah. That gets so awesome. That's gotta be crazy. Going back to to making people break on set, that never happens in a a show like Blackbird.

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Right?

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I wouldn't say it never happens. I mean, there's a famous clip on YouTube of somebody I think it might have been Phil Hartman or somebody had a fart machine in the elevator in a scene in the master, PT Anderson film.

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Uh-huh. That's a

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pretty serious film or at least an intense film and, like, and, like, they they had a moment where everybody broke, and it was, like, over a fart joke. So, like, it can happen, but I I would say most of the time on Blackbird, 98% of the time, we were both locked in, you know, definitely serious about the work. But I will I will say you have to keep stuff light outside of it.

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Yeah.

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And I think there were a day or 2. Not that he ever truly showed it, but there had to be a day or 2 where I annoyed the crap out of Taryn, like, in between takes or in between setups where I'd be doing an accent or a celebrity impression or dancing or being stupid. And for me, it was, like, therapeutic, but for him, at some point, I'm sure it proved distractionary.

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Yeah.

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But, like, I you you gotta break up the intensity somehow. You gotta stay sane. And for me, nowadays, if I'm having a rough rough day for whatever reason, I just watch a couple clips from, I think you should leave on Netflix, and and I'm out of it. Or I'll watch a really good wrestling match from MLW or another organization on YouTube, and it makes me feel better. You know?

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Who's your favorite wrestler growing up?

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Sting was my number 1. Still is.

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It still is.

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Still is. Well, he retired, but you know what it is. It's Yeah. Everybody's got their Mount Rushmore. He's the top of mind.

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And I think I just admire the fact that he he was second fiddle to Hulk Hogan in that good guy era, but Hogan was, like, never really selling for other people. He was always saying, like, I'm the dude. You can't get 1 over on me, and Sting would sell for people. Sting, you could beat the crap out of Sting, but he would still come back. Yeah.

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And I feel like I saw that more than I saw with Hogan. I admired that. Loved the flare and pizzazz of the guy going from surfer sting to the crow sting, and he got all dark and serious and fought the NWO with just a baseball bat and a silent face. Like, there was something so cool about that, and, and he stood the test of time and just recently, you know, had his final match back in the spring of this year in Greensboro, North Carolina, and I got to be there. And Tony Khan allowed me to sit ringside with some dear friends.

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1 of my oldest friends, Ryan Kunitzer, who, you know, I've known the guy 30 something years. Sting was like our guy, and we're standing there, you know, nearly emotional as as he has his final match. It was amazing.

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That's incredible. Who else is on your Mount Rushmore?

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So there's 2 types of Rushmores. Right? There's the 1 where you're trying to objectively give the top 4 for from the worldly perspective, and then there's personal Rushmore. Which 1 do you want?

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I want personal.

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Yeah. I want personal.

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Personal Rushmore is Sting, Bret Hart Mhmm. I think I think Ric Flair and Chris Jericho.

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Oh, k.

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I think those are the 4. And but Jericho's tough too. He just sneaks in there past, he just sneaks in there past a couple other guys like like Ricky Steamboat or Randy Savage.

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Yeah. Randy Savage. He was the best. Yeah. I miss that guy, Macho Man.

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Yeah.

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I think my top 10 has a bunch of random guys too. Like, they're not who you'd think. I I don't go for the low hanging fruit of the Undertaker under the Giant and Shawn Michaels. Like, I I like guys who are impactful in different ways. I love Dustin Rhodes AKA Goldust, Ray Mysterio, Mick Foley, Kurt Angle.

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Not all the people that get put at the top.

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Yeah. Mankind is probably on my rush for.

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I've got a really dumb question for you. Real. But I think about this, with actors. A

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very dumb person. Serve it up, bro.

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Alright. How much time do you put in behind the scenes just literally memorizing your lines?

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Depends on the role. Depends on the role. There's there's certain things. Like Richard Jewell, I would learn my lines at a week, like, 5 to 7 days in advance, and I'd be very overly familiar with them, and it could kinda fall out of me a lot easier. And then there's other things.

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If I'm doing a comedy, there's just less of a stress of learning the lines. It just feels like I don't know. It's like Bam Margera the skateboard. Like, it's not like he's in shape and skateboards all the time, but, like, he can still jump on a skateboard and and do whatever because he's bam.

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Mhmm. Yeah.

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That's kinda how I feel about comedy, but I think that's actually a really dangerous way to it's a dangerous attitudinal stance because you can then sometimes give 85% when you should be given a 100.

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Yeah.

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So so it depends. But, but, yeah, I I my whole thing is I learn 1 page at a time. So I'll always know the first page of dialog better than the last, but I I for me, that's just my process. I learn 1 page at a time. The biggest audition I ever had page was, I think I learned I think I, Tonya, was 13 pages.

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I I memorized, and I think scream 4, I memorized, like, 15 pages.

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Jeez.

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So when you're rehearsing for, like, BlacKkKlansman, there are some lines of dialog in that movie you probably would never want to say in any context besides part of a camera. Right? Are you are you doing are you rehearsing, like, the full lines?

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Yeah. If I have to if I have to, like, feel the words and and say them in a way where it you don't feel the timidity in the character. Because, like, I've I've met some weird racist ass dudes at dive bars or, you know, 1 of those low key racist guys who's, like, putting the bait out and seeing if you'll if you'll touch the the pole line.

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Yeah. Seeing

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if you're friend friend or foe. Mhmm.

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Yeah. The, yeah, the Uber driver who's, like, talking politics, and then it's like, yeah. You know how these people are. Then they're looking at you in the rearview, and you're like, I wanna freaking die right now.

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Yeah.

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I don't wanna be in this guy's car. I've meant enough of them that, like, you can't have timidity. It's gotta be if you were born with that ideological stance, it has to be as normal as well, yeah. We always have pork chops on Thursdays.

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Yeah. Right.

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Okay. It just has to be normal. Do you see? Don't say it because you're like, look at me. I'm saying the rap lyrics behind closed doors.

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You're doing it because you you have to make sure it's right. But I would say what's harder is when you improvise with a bad character.

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Yeah.

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There were lines that I said in black bird and black klansman that I improvised that you feel very guilty about because afterwards, you go, well, that wasn't in the script, and you still got there. So how'd you get there? That's tough. That's acting.

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Yeah. That's acting. Yeah. That's really good acting.

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It's also acting. Yeah. It's also sometimes good acting. You're like, oh, that is a really good line. Unfortunately, it's devastatingly awful, but that's who you're playing on the day.

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Yeah. Un unfortunately, it's really, really racist, and you came up with it all on your own. Yeah.

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I I had a disgusting moment where I felt so bad. I'm doing a scene with John David Washington who's about as likable and sweet of a person as you can get on a movie set. And, and I did something where I stuck my mouth out to look like a ape or a primate with my tongue, to to piss him off in the scene. Now Spike gave me the direction of Europe and his grill do something that could provoke him, but he won't be provoked. Mhmm.

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So, like, that's what I thought of for that character. But the moment after it was done, I went up to John David. I go, hey, man. I just wanna say and he goes, I know. I know.

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Like, very much said it, like, I know where you're going with it, and I like, we we're on the same page here. Don't don't don't take your foot off the pedal just because you're uncomfortable.

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Yeah.

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And I I really admired his his grace and professionalism with that, and and there have been moments like that in other projects, and sometimes you just gotta be able to have a conversation preliminarily too. Sometimes I won't do something because I'm like, I don't wanna get I don't want someone to create a story of me being a bad person because I made a creative choice. So let me run this by them first to make sure they're comfortable. And 90% of the time, the other actor's like, oh, you shouldn't have even told me. You should've just done it.

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Right.

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It's like before you step into the wrestling ring. Yeah.

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That too. I'm always asking wrestlers. You know? Like like, these guys in MLW, that's their locker room. I'm a guest in their locker room.

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I'm new to the roster, and I really respect those guys and gals. And it's always about finding out what do what are we doing and and how do we do it the best way that doesn't complicate something or hurt hurt anybody long term.

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Yeah. So, Paul, this has been awesome, man. We really appreciate you us. I got 1 last question. It's the Rhoback question, rhoback.compromocode take.

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20% off your first purchase, Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Rhoback.compromocode take. I mentioned it at the top, but, Major League Wrestling, there's free pay per views or sorry, free matches. The big streams are on YouTube. So the last question I have for you is if wrestling started taking off for you and they're like, you have to give up acting, would you do it? Like, really take off.

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If they gave me that ultimatum and something weird happened where, say say in 2026, I undergo the Chris Pratt style transformation. Yeah. And, MLW is taken off, and they got a show on TV, and I'm they wanna put a belt on me, and they want we're doing the whole thing. If that opportunity presented itself, I would just hold my ground and say you have to let me do both. Yeah.

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I I don't think I would take the deal because at the end of the day, I love acting. I it would hurt my feelings to it would hurt my spirit to not get to act in some capacity. And you gotta ask my wife. My wife, Amy, is such a patient, grace driven woman. There she knows that when I go 3, 4, 5 months without acting, I'm not that fun to be around.

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I'm, like, starved for attention, and I'm, like, hell bent on making my jokes, and suddenly I'm in the kitchen, and I'm trying to turn into Anthony Bourdain or Guy Fieri.

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Mhmm.

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Like, it's like it's a very you know, we're sick people actors.

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Yeah.

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So it's like, I think, it would hurt the soul and the brain too much if I didn't do it, but I do think that there's a way to do both, and I'm trying to prove that. And the other thing to anyone listening, like, know your value. If you're good at what you do, and somebody's saying there's an ultimatum, tell them give give them a a counter ultimatum Yeah. That you need to do both. And, you know, you'll you'll find out that when you stick to your guns and you you are who you say you are, you you should be able to do both.

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That it's that's a great a great sentiment, and it's also, what you said about, like, going crazy when you don't act for a while. That's that's why you're an incredible actor. I mean, we we we, obviously, we do a stupid podcast, but when we go 5 days without talking to each other about sports, we're like, what the fuck? Like, our brains start

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to go crazy. It it nourishes your spirit to do these things you love, and I I really believe in, you know, not to not to be too preachy. My my dad's literally a retired minister, but I believe that god put us all on earth to do different things to to embody something that can benefit other people. You guys do it yourselves. You entertain and educate people on topics they're interested in, and you give people a reprieve from a dark, twisted, difficult world.

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And, and I think I do the same. And, like, you know, it's when you feel that inside yourself and you go, man, I feel thirsty for this thing. That's God's way of telling you you're meant to do that.

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Yeah. We're

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put on the surface.

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So I I would I would encourage people, follow the bread crumbs. You know? Follow the the trail of of passion because it's it's there for a reason.

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Yeah. I appreciate you telling us that we educate people. We haven't educated a single person.

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No. We we did.

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Oh, you educate them on other people. Right?

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We did. We we educated movies. Numerous NFL head coaches on what to do in the Q4 of a playoff game if you're losing by 2 scores True. And it's 4th down, 4th and 8. Do you kick the field goal, or do you give the ball back to Tom Brady to beat you in the NFC championship game?

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Listen. You guys were the first people to say the Andy Reid thing. So if that happens, we can go back and be like, these guys educated us.

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That's true. Yeah.

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They were prophetic. Yeah. I mean, you this was happening.

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You would absolutely kill an Andy Reid role.

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Yeah. At the end of the day, I'm looking to work with anybody who's kind, who treats people well, and wants to wants to work hard and tell a good story, whatever that looks like. It could be a sitcom. It could be a, a little indie foreign film. It could be anything.

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But at the end of the day, you hope to do something that, you're proud of. You know? And I I never wanna be that actor who just takes a bad movie for a lot of money. I have 2 children who are gonna be in private school, and life is not cheap. It can be very difficult sometimes, So I'm sure there's gonna be that temptation too, but but I try to make things that I would wanna pay my hard earned money to go see it, the AMC Theater or the Regal Cinema.

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Yeah. I think it comes across too. So is there is there 1 role, not 1 that you have, like, the ball in motion for, so taking out, like, the Chris Farley, any of that stuff, is there something that you've been fascinated with, a story or an individual that you've just been really, really interested in, who you would like to play or a role that you would really like to play at some point?

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Good question. Yeah. I'll leave you at this. I I have 3 roles I really want to inhabit, in the next 5 years. I wanna I wanna play Teddy Roosevelt.

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Oh, Oscar. Oscar. There you go. Yes. Oscar.

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And that's another 1 where I just I know I can play him. I'm not even worried about it. It just I just have to convince other people to wanna do it. The other 1 is, a father who knows how to be present and not on his phone all the time.

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Okay. Good role.

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That's a role I really need to inhabit and get better at because I

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The sci fi?

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Can be what's yeah. It's a fantasy. This is a genre. And the, Yeah. As a father, I mean, I wanna wanna have it that characteristic.

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The 3rd role is, I wanna kick somebody's ass in MLW, and I'm gonna be doing that Thursday night, the Melrose Ballroom, in in Long Island City. And I hope you check it out in person. If you can't make it in person, Court Bauer in all his, benevolence is providing these pay per view style cards for free on YouTube, so check it out.

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I love it. I love it. Well, Paul, thank you so much for your time, man. We're big fans of yours, and, keep crushing it.

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I'd also like to invest in the Teddy Roosevelt film when it gets made. Yeah.

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Manifesting.

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I got some money coming through. Travis Hunter Heisman.

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Love to you guys, and, let's do this again in, like, a year or 2 here.

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Yeah. Alright. Love it.

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Sounds good.

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So much, man.

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It's so good. Mhmm. Do you

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guys FAQ for you guys. You know how the the the daylight savings thing is is back in the in the news? Mhmm. Whether we should or we shouldn't, and we're like, hey. Wish we had another hour of sunlight in the winter.

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I'm an idiot. I didn't realize that if we just if we, like, didn't do daylight savings or I don't even understand the the terminology. If we didn't do daylight

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savings

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Yeah. It would get dark at, like, 7, like, 15 in the summer. Oh. Never realized that we'd

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have to give

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that up. The opposite side of it?

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Yeah. Yeah. I didn't

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And I don't mind the winter. Yeah. That's I don't want that. I thought it was like someone

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I thought it only fucked with us.

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No. It was like the the sun would would rise at, like, 445 in the summer and then set it, like, 745. That's the opposite of what

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I want

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in the summer. Yeah. So just suck it up for the winter. We're already we're 5 days away from the long or the shortest day of the year. We're gonna be on the other side soon.

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Yeah.

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It sucks for, like, the 1st week when you're like, oh, it shouldn't be dark this early, but then it's like, whatever.

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Yeah. You just get through it.

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Everyone people that bitch about winter are fucking losers.

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Listen. And also It's

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cold and it's dark early.

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And also Get over. Also don't Move

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to California if you don't like it.

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Don't bitch about winter, until, like, late January, early February. This is not winter yet because it's holiday season. Everyone's happy. There's football on. This does not count as winter yet.

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That's what always fucks with you is

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that you think, oh, we're it's gonna get dark so early in the wintertime, but then it starts to get longer in January. Yeah. Because we're Yeah. We're almost there. You're about

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to say that Yeah.

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Also, if you change the if you take away daylight savings time, that takes away, like, 3 hours worth of recurring bits on part of my take. What are you

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talking about, bits? Just think

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about that. Think about the podcast

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or something. What do you mean, bits? Well, because last year mean PSAs.

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No. Last Bits. Last year, we thought that the clocks, went back in the fall. Oh. And we fucked that up the

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entire time. Thinking of I think

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you were

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thinking of PSAs because we've been bought by big time.

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No. We kept saying that it it falls back, but it actually goes forward. Yeah. That was our fucking goal.

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That was a bad year for us. Yeah. When we did our, final year review with Dave, he's like, hey. It says here you guys you guys screwed up the daylight savings thing. I'm like, fuck, man.

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No excuses. Next year, we'll nail it.

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Yeah. We have to do 10 minutes in the dungeon for every time we fuck that up.

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But, seriously, I mean, it's we're almost there. What what is it? Divisional round? January, I think I think it's January 18th is when we move the clocks back again. Mhmm.

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So we're almost there.

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We've almost made it.

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We we pretty much made it.

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Yeah. Okay. FAQs.

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Hey, boys. What will president Pugh do about Max's injury? I believe Pugh needs to address weekly injuries like midweek coaches press conferences.

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I like that. That would we actually need him to do an availability report. Mhmm. Because I was dealing with a little sickness, the last, like, week and a half of rolling sickness in my house. Yeah.

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I I was questionable a couple times.

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What what is Pugh doing about health care as president on this podcast?

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But he needs to give, like, an update of, like, how everyone's feeling just so we can set the stage of, like, listen. We're we're football guys. We don't complain. I don't think I you guys even know that I was dealing with it. I puked 7 times on Saturday.

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Damn. The only reason I would talk about an injury is if it was mandated for me to report it. Yeah. Otherwise, I don't want people to know. Right.

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But, Pugh, you should definitely do a a mandated injury report.

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Yeah. On how you you need to you need to, like, pull all of us separately how we're doing and then, like, game days, you should just you could just do a tweet

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Or press con Instagram live press conference.

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But if he's doing it 3 times a week

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We get pug like a a step and repeat that he can stand in front of Yeah.

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I think he does it once a week. I would like to see a a once week injury report.

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But what

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I mean, there's game days or show days.

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Then, you know, then then we have to wait for all the test results to come back, and we'll have more information about his injury as the week progresses.

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Yeah. So I missed the first part. This is just

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a joke. Yeah. We we I think you need to start adding injury reports. Maybe make a graphic and, like, maybe it's maybe it's every Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday. It doesn't have to be a press conference, but it just says, like, you could ask all of us how we're doing just so the listeners know what we're dealing with.

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Mhmm. So it

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could be physical and emotional. Mental.

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Yeah. Of course. Of course. Okay. Yeah.

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People can give you their answers.

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Yeah. I'll start sending you my sleep stats.

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Yeah. BEARS had me depressed.

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Okay.

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Yeah. Fat.

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Fat. Is

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that for you?

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No. But, like, some

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it might

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be in the future.

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Yeah. Doubtful. Fat.

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Yeah. You're you'll be like you'll be like Tom Brady's shoulder. Remember, he's listed, like, what? It was, like, 17 years

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in a row Yeah.

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With a probable it was

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probable shoulder.

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Okay. Someone should stay stay the same every time.

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Yeah. Mhmm.

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Yeah. Memes. Memes. Italian.

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Yeah. Limit limited participant.

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Italian non horny kind.

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Hey, PMT gang. My FAQ is how long does it take to write boomers on Sunday for the Monday show? They are always so clever and funny, and I always get a good chuckle out

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of them.

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Oh, thank you. That's nice. It depends week to week, honestly, depending on what the schedule is. If we have a a Bears game or a Commanders game or a really good game like we had last weekend Yeah. In the late slate, we just put off writing the boomers as long as we can.

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And then we we just write like hell for about, I don't know, 40 minutes. Yeah. And, also, Hank writes his boomer. Memes does his.

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That has been a very big help.

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Does his.

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That's been a very big help. We've gotten a lot more efficient on our Sunday schedule Yeah. Because I was thinking about it, like, it used to be that we wouldn't be done till 1 or 2 in the morning. We're usually done about 11:30. Shout out the guys in the booth because they're they stay till, like, 3 or 4

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in the morning.

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Time zones.

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Time zones. But still, like, we

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No. Yeah. No. The New York, it was

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We've gotten very efficient. But, yeah, I'm also I'm gonna miss football season. I'm very excited for playoffs. I think I said this last week, but I'm excited to, like, sit down and soak in 1 single game Yeah. For, like I was thinking about the wild card round the other day.

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Like, I'm I'm just so pumped to just, like, 1 matchup.

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You get to focus on individual games.

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And they do kinda set you up

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with, like, the the Christmas, and then they're gonna do the Saturday 1 games.

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So This is the point of the season though where we just have a lot of football that doesn't mean anything. So it's like, just get me I just wanna hit the fast forward to the playoffs because it's like, I wanna just let's get this thing on.

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Mhmm. Let's

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get it on.

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Who would last the longest in a zombie apocalypse? Resources are plenty out of the group, and who would kill themselves first just to get it over with?

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It's not are are we saying, like, the the dead rise? Like, everybody that's dead shows up?

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Can I can I make a confession? I

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don't like zombies.

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I've never been a zombie guy.

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I don't like zombies.

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Don't like the shows. Don't like the movies. Just doesn't do it for me. I don't like it. There's nothing it does nothing

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for me. I don't know why everybody decided that, like, zombies are a thing.

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Right.

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And we're always gonna talk about zombies.

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What about, like, what about, like, planet of the apes, like, like, plague? Like, you're trying to survive, not zombies per se, but, like, you know, there's a plague that's taking over the country you're trying to survive. Or, like,

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what we would do is we would have doctor Fauci on the program. Yeah.

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And so I guess that's zombies.

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I think I would, I would I would survive the exact amount of, like, average time.

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I would probably be I would probably put myself in the kill myself first. I feel like PFT could survive, like, just eating random shit.

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You live next to

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the lake, though. Just get to water.

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Is that how it works?

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Yeah. I mean, I think that's what you're supposed to do. Get to water. Whatever the thing is, get to water.

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I think I would just I think I'd be okay. Like, I would just I I could deal with

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You could just eat Fritos for, like, 3 years.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I could I could do that.

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If a nuke hits, you just go underwater for the 5 seconds it hits.

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I always thought that was tsunami, like, just swim underneath it.

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Wait. What? If you you thought that the way to survive a tsunami was to jump into the water? Well, yeah. You know

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how, like, when you're in the in the water and you just go underneath the wave?

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I yeah. Like, when you're body surfing Yeah. You can yeah.

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Yeah. Sure. I I just I I don't know about

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All these idiots running away from the cliff.

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That might not be wrong. It might not be wrong.

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Yeah. Sure.

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Alright. Nikki wrote I think she said she's studying, and she must have taken out of her. She wrote, like, 5 questions. Who creates the cover of graphics for podcast episodes? What is the go to music for the office to listen to?

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And do you guys have a sick Christmas tree in the office?

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Go the the graphics is our guy, Triggs. He is the goat. Triggs.

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What? Singular.

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But isn't it Trig's draws? Trig draws.

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I think over the years, we've just called him Trig's.

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Added an s. Trig Trig is Trig's no. It's Trig's. Trig's is is the man. He he is, like, so so so so talented.

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Also, hit him up if you want, like, side work because he does incredible stuff where, like, he can make all kinds of art and and cool things. He's a big sports fan.

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He's a very talented artist, and he also does some sick ass graphics for, like, college football Saturdays Yeah. Where he shows you exactly what games are on what channel at what time.

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Yeah. So, his Twitter handle is, what is it? Trig draws. Trig draws? No.

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Trig draws. I think it's the the the s on, draws that has me.

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It's like when Gilly calls it barstools.

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Yeah. Trigg draws. He's the man. So do hit him up. He he's got a shop online that is I mean, that yeah.

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The Tiger Woods stuff. Those prints are awesome. But go to song in the

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office because you don't have any

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No music.

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Whatever Brandon Walker paces around the office too at 7 AM.

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Yeah. And then what was the last question?

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Do you guys have a sick Christmas tree in the office?

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I we have 1. We have 2. 2? I think we have 2.

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I wouldn't say that it's sick because it's not live. No. Live tunes are way better. Yeah. We have 2.

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It reminds I gotta I gotta You can cop

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a tree.

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I gotta get my tree. Yeah.

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It's, like, 1 week away.

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Yeah. So Get it? But, no, you you don't understand.

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The way I

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you fake it. With Christmas trees, I get them up till February. A little bit late, and then I keep up forever. I get it. I get my fill in on the back end.

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Yeah.

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That thing's not gonna wait till after the Super Bowl.

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Daylight savings time is probably when it's time to take the tree down.

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Yeah. My oh, yeah. January 10th.

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That's a little early, my guess, but Yeah. The Super Bowl. Mhmm.

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Yeah. Well, yeah. January 18th. Sorry. The divisional round.

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Okay.

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You got any more?

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No.

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Okay. Let's wrap up the show. Numbers memes, you ever gotten this? No. 92.

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Oh, look at you. This is a new meme. No. He's just admitting it. 3.

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I did guess it, though.

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You didn't get everyone guessed it every week.

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You got Everyone can guess it.

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No. You didn't. I'm guessing 8 from a drug addict quarterback.

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Alright. 70. 94, pug. 21.

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Okay. Reset. Reset. Good luck, memes. Thanks.

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Good luck

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to everybody here too. Thanks, memes.

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Did you get like a new medication or something? No. 75.

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Love you, guys.