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It's tough. It's really tough. I'm upset. For the Vikings fans out there. You had a lot to look forward to, especially after week one of the preseason. Everything looked great. Um, I guess the good news is that Sam Darnold no longer has mononucleosis.

Yeah. Seven year bump. I. I posed this question. I got ratioed to hell. I posed this question when it. When JJ McCarthy was announced out for the year. Am I crazy for thinking Sam Donald might have a good year? Now that I posed the question before Jordan Addison got hurt, but my whole thinking was, he's going to have the best receivers he's ever had. 7th year bump. Yeah, no mono. Kevin O'Connell. Good coach. Played quarterback.

Kevin O'Connell. Got good stuff out of Josh Dobbs last year. Yeah, I mean, Sam, he's a quarterback friendly coach.

Sam Darnold. Just remember, like Sam Darnold did, he did play the quarterback position with the greatest handicap of all time. And that's Adam Gates.

Adam Gates. Yeah. So, yes, he had to get the stink of the jets off him. He's been around smart football guys for the last year. Yeah, he went, did some rehab there. His grandfather's name is Dick Hammer.

Yep.

So that you got that going for you.

I just.

The ultimate thor for all the Vikings fans out there.

Yeah. This. This might be crazy to me. This might be the dumbest thing I've thought, but I kind of feel like, and I don't want the Vikings to be good, but I kind of feel like Sam Donald might surprise some people.

This year, and I think his head is going to look normal size in that helmet.

Yes.

Purple. It's agreed. Yeah, it could be worse. I think they're doing the right thing.

You want. It definitely could be worse.

You want to do that? Yeah. You could have absolutely no plan at backup quarterback, which at times it looked like you had no plan at backup last year.

Yes.

I think he's probably Josh Dobbs.

Yeah.

Josh Dobbs is good for like a couple of weeks.

Whenever he changed the team, he was good for that first couple of weeks.

Yeah, just bring him in. Just bring him in for one week. He'll probably be on, on same face as new places.

Who? Josh Dobbs?

Yeah.

Is he in the league?

I think he's in the league, yeah, I think he's on a roster.

We're going to do that in a second.

He's got to be on a roster. It could be worse. It's the right call, I think, to do the long term meniscus surgery. Rookie quarterback.

Yeah, no, it's absolutely right call.

You don't want to rush them back from this at all.

They're not in win now mode. It makes no sense to rush them back. A team that I guess is in win now mode is the Atlanta Falcons, who traded for Matthew Judon.

They're all in.

They're all in. Hank is not here right now. He's going to be here for the Mount Rushmore. He is, though. We're taping this part of the show, obviously, on Thursday. We taped the Mount Rushmore on Wednesday. Hank is. If you're listening to this, it's already happened. He's led the New England Patriots out on the field via lighting the lighthouse, via ringing a bell.

He rang a bell. It's like a rube Goldberg machine. Yeah, you ring the bell and then the bell lights the light. Or maybe the light's already lit. Yeah, he's ringing the bell to symbolize, to commemorate the lighting of the light in the lighthouse. And then the team's gonna run out into the field, and Hank's gonna have a little shit eating grid on his face. I'm happy for him. He loves that fucking lighthouse.

It's going to be great. But the last, so the last time we talked to Hank, he said that Matthew Judon was having, was it friendly and what was it? What were the two words?

Maybe like friendly and good. Friendly, good. Normal conversations.

Conversations with head coach Mayo, it turns out. And he also took a side swipe at memes and was like, patriots are classy organization. We'll figure this out. The jets won't. And then maybe like 2 hours later, Matthew Giudon got traded.

Yeah. Do we know what, what they got in return for third round pick? Third round pick which fleeced.

Well, I mean, Matthew Judah is a very good player. He's also 32 and he needs a new contract. So that would be the part where it's, you know, the third round pick because it always happens whenever a player that, you know, gets traded and you're like, that's it. Third round pick. It's like, oh, well, yeah, he needs a brand new contract.

He's going to get paid.

He's going to get paid. And you're right, although the Falcons, I heard, like, there isn't a plan to give him a new contract to extend him right away. They, they actually did the opposite of the jets. The Falcons might be the classiest organization of the three. They did not trade for him with any pretenses of a new contract.

So he's going to go there. But he, what if he just wants a new contract? I'm sure he does want a new contract.

That's why he wanted a trade.

So. But he'd rather play out his contract with a team that's not going to give him a new contract and is upfront about it than with the Patriots.

Where it wasn't want to be on the Patriots.

Yeah. So it's weird. Also, it goes against everything I've ever known about the Atlanta Falcons, which is they've been committed for as long as I can remember to not having any players that I can name on their defense.

Yeah.

And now they've got a couple really good players on their defense.

Yeah.

And I don't know, the Falcons, maybe I was a year ahead on the Falcons. Maybe this is the year that the Falcons tie it all together.

I think it's just going to be a lot of teams in the NFC south that are going to be nine and 810 and seven and then the Panthers. Yeah, probably it's going to go exactly like last year, where it's going to be the three way between the Falcons, the Saints, and the Bucks. And it's like whoever just ends up winning a couple of these head to heads will go to the playoffs.

I'm going to look at these odds real quick, see what, what the odds are for the Falcons to win that division. Cause I like them this year.

They're probably not that high just because of there's no dominant team. Yeah, I have already said that the Saints might not be as bad as people think, but, memes, I do. I did want to ask you real quick, because you got the sideswipe. How are you feeling today knowing that you at least partially vindicated, even though son Reddick is still holding out and the jets are still not figuring this.

Situation out, Hank being immediately wrong was delicious.

Delicious. Oh, good word.

I.

Good word.

Does it take some of the sting out of your jets?

I take some of the sting out. I still want them to resolve it quickly. Then it's a massive w for me.

Yeah, then it would. If they, if they get Hassan Reddick signed within the next, like 48 hours, then you, you get a huge dub.

But if it take, if it goes into the season, it's.

Or if he doesn't play and you trade him for something less than what you traded him for, then you're back to a loss.

Yeah, that's a major loss, because Hank was technically right. They did figure it out.

So. Yeah, they did figure out Matthew Judah pretty quickly.

It was productive and good, normal good.

Yeah, I think it was good and happy or something.

Good and happy, like friends, friendly and it's friendly and something.

Now, memes, what if you traded Hassan Reddick to the Patriots?

Happy, so bad.

God.

But what if Hassan Reddick. Then what? Memes, what if you treated him to the Patriots? Then her son Reddick said, I'm not gonna play for the Patriots. Then that'd be a massive w. But then.

Okay, but then the, what if the Eagles traded the Patriots to get Hassan Reddick back and they got more than what you paid for?

That'd be a loss.

But the Eagles season is already over because apparently Jalen Hurst is throwing too many touchdown passes and not enough interceptions in training camp. Is that right, Max?

Oh, yeah. Nick Wright is mine. Is my Florio.

Oh, nice. A new Florio has presented himself.

So the problem is that what, he's. He's too good? Because I know they always say you learn more from mistakes than you do from success. So he's, he's not throwing enough interceptions to learn anything.

Yes, they said that.

That's such a good take.

Number 1% of his passes.

Number one, he just kept saying, he's like, I know this is going to get aggregated. I know this is going to get. So he's doing it.

You're aggregating right now.

What sounds like.

But yeah, that's, that's. He's, he's doing it to get clicks and he's admitting that he's doing it to get clicks because he knows never downs.

Yeah, you should never.

But he sounds ridiculous. He sounds ridiculous saying that he's not throwing enough. He's not watching any of the camp.

You know that Nick, right? He's a smart guy. He watches the tape.

There is no tape.

What do you mean there's no tape?

We don't think he's got tape.

How many times have we gone to camp and there's tape being filmed? But you're not. But like, so that's for the team.

But maybe his access.

Yeah, maybe it's access.

He doesn't have access.

Nick, right? Has all 22 access.

He's saying that he's not taking enough risks.

He's been.

How fuck is he supposed to know that?

It is a great.

He's like, it's not taking enough risk. You got to throw some picks in training camp.

Such a good thing. I'm pretty sure I had this exact same take, ironically, about Nick foles when he threw two interceptions. I was like, this season actually sucks.

Yeah, you gotta. I mean, you gotta. I do. But even that guy's taking risks. Like Rogers, at the end of his career with the packers, there was the argument that he, he was obsessed with not throwing interceptions, that he would not take some risks.

But even then, you're watching it. Like, if he was watching every play.

You don't know that he wasn't watching.

He's.

There's no way he's watching.

What about a pick on third down? If you throw it deep down the field, same as a punt. That's a good pick.

Sure.

Okay, so let's talk about the positive. Word out of the Eagles camp is big Dom is just running the whole show now. Rocks.

He's the best.

He's the coach of the team.

Yeah, no, no, we had a, we had a problem last year of I get someone being the guy that everyone can look up to. We got that guy. It's Big Dom.

So, Max, I love Big Dom. Don't get me wrong. Love the guy. Is it.

I don't like the way.

I'm just curious.

Yeah, I don't either. Be careful.

Well, I'm not I'm asking a question.

Okay, but be careful.

I'm asking. This is what we do to learn. We ask.

Careful how you ask.

It's called the socratic method.

Okay, now, careful.

And now you're saying things that I don't know.

Is it a good thing?

Don't confuse.

It's all greek to Max. Max, is it a good thing Greeks.

Are just Italians who don't pay taxes?

Max, fact. Is it a good thing. Would it be a good thing for your head of security to be coaching your football team?

Yeah, I think so.

If the head of security is big Don.

Okay, all right.

That's all I want to know.

I want to know.

Did you guys see, by the way, when fantasy fuck boys comes back, we had the lineup for the Staten Island Little League World Series team that's in Williamsport. I'll just give you a couple of names. It's great.

Okay.

Just fancy fuck boys central. Batting first is vintage Rugerio.

Yeah.

How do you say that? Second is Stephen Grippo. Peter Giacchio. Steven Grips is the catcher. We also have on the team, Dean Scarengello. Ok. Joe Arachi. Dylan D. De Gata.

And Dylan the cat.

Jason Roccio. I can't even. I can't speak Italian. Max, you give me some italian help here. Roc.

I have to look at the I O. Let me.

Rocheo. Rochelle Rocheo. Yeah.

D. Roach.

Let me.

Jason Rocheo.

J. Roach.

No, you're saying it wrong.

Dylan Degata is my favorite.

Yeah, I like that.

That's a good one.

It's a good name, but yeah, there's a lot.

A lot of vowels.

Careful.

Big fact.

The Little League World Series and saying fuck boys.

Just saying your brain went there. That not. Not anyone else's. We went.

That's fucked up through it.

I was your brain is there.

World Series people don't talk about that enough.

I think we talk about Max.

You were in it.

Some Awl found the game that I played in and put the whole thing on YouTube.

Love that.

You know what I love about the Little League World Series? I love the fact that it's for the kids and they get the best umpires and they do it the right way at Williamsport.

Yeah.

Don't see that a lot.

Agreed.

And it's something. And if you're in wholesome, we can all get by.

If you're someone who just spends all day online yelling about the kids and the umpires, maybe. Get a life.

Yeah, get a life. Although the one thing I never like about it, though, is the one coach that knows that he's doing something to go viral. Yeah, he knows that. He's Mike.

Yeah, he, they lose and then he brings them all and he's like, listen, look around. You guys are going to love that. You guys are going to think back to this moment for the rest of your lives. Like, no, they lost, they're out. No, I actually love that. Rico just gets so fired up about Lily.

World Series and the umpires. Yeah. And the system.

In the system. But yeah, that, that was good. What, what, before we do this game, what, what else do we have? Anything else?

We're talking about quarterbacks being too good in practice. Jaden Daniels through five touchdowns in a row.

That's pretty good, but maybe too good.

It might be too good.

Yeah, might be too.

He needs to learn how to throw better. End zone interceptions.

Yeah, we had. Oh, there was one other thing. Oh, Jamus miked up was incredible.

Jamis mic'd up is really good. I just love the entire thing. Him going up to his teammates and being like, I'm in your establishment. Yeah, that was great. The us men's national team. We got our guy. Yeah, pocatino. Yep, his name is Pocatino. He's argentinian, he coached for Chelsea, coached for Tottenham. I think he got them to like the Champions League final or some shit like that early.

He's won a lot.

He's won, yeah, he's won some where. I think he came in like second place in the EPL.

He did win a. He did win the french league with PSG.

Oh, the Farmers league.

When he beat a bunch of uber.

Eats delivery guys with Neymar and Messi.

Yeah.

Okay, so he has one. I assume that since he was, he was Pulisic's coach when he was at Chelsea. I'm assuming that they asked Pulisic what he thought about the coach and then Pulisic said he's a good guy. Then they brought him in, which might.

Not be the best thing because we got to make our guys tougher.

Well, apparently beat up all the time. I read up a little bit about this guy and he coaches using the theory of energia, universal.

Okay.

Which means universal energy.

Love it.

Max, did you get that? Universal energy, which is basically. He coaches on vibes. He thinks that every player either has good vibes or bad vibes.

Hank would not last on this team.

He would not. And he just, he has like this theory that it's all connected, it's all one song.

I like that.

So it's a very, it's a very different coach than what we had in the past.

People were telling me last night that we're going to score goals and we're going to give up goals and that's all I care about. If I can bet the over while watching the us men's national, national team and win, I don't give a fuck what ends up happening. We could lose every game if there's.

Five goals he plays. I think his formation is some like 4233. I don't know. That probably doesn't add up till twelve or 211. But I know that he plays a very aggressive style.

So let me ask you this question. Pft, yeah. As our four most soccer international soccer guy, would you say this was a home run? Higher. Because in soccer terms I feel like people were very upset or very excited. Like we got him. This is incredible. We never thought we'd get a guy.

Like this in soccer terms. It's a grand slam.

Okay. It's a grand slam.

It's a touchdown.

So I just want it on the record. If this is a grand slam touchdown of a higher and we don't get good at soccer.

Yep.

Could you make the argument our players are not good?

Yes.

Okay. Yeah. Now I'm excited.

That's what I've been saying. This is excited this entire time. And we, there have been times in the past when we've had shitty players. I will, I will give you that 100%. There have been times when we've had decent players. Now we have. Which should be the best players we've ever had.

Which is not a huge, doesn't mean they're good.

They're good.

Relatively speaking. I'm saying like in the world they're not, they're still not good.

Well, they play on the best teams in the world.

Meaningful minutes.

Many of them. Many of them. That's what I'm trying to speaker. Two, there are, there's like four or five guys that play significant minutes on really good teams. There's a lot of guys that are on good teams that don't play at all. And then there's a couple other guys that are still up and coming. But what I'm saying is yes, in the past you've been 100% right. Us soccer has never been anywhere close to the top talent in the world. Now they're, I wouldn't say that they're in the top five talent in the world. I'd probably say top ten.

Okay.

I'm just excited.

Ross test. I'm excited for the.

Now that that shithead Greg is out of the picture. And he's not too busy getting in pissing matches with his players dads, to put it forth. A good. A good lineup. I think. I think it's safe to say that this will be a big disappointment if we don't. I. I think disappointment would be losing in the knockout round. I think that we need to win at least one knockout round game. I think we should get to the quarterfinals.

So I'm just excited for the test now because we'll find out if this is a home run grand slam. Higher. We can't blame the home run grand. Some higher.

We can't blame it on the coach.

Correct?

Yeah, he's going, I'm excited for universal.

And I hope we're good. I want us to be good. It'd be awesome if we're good.

I mean, the World cup would be so bad.

I'm going to be like, yeah, we're. We're never going to be good.

And I think that would be. That would be valid at that point. If we're bad, then it's like, and we're bad, then it's like, why isn't Jalen Brown on this team?

Yeah, this is. This is exciting because I've always wanted to just get to the bottom of it. Like, should we actually invest money and time and resources as sports fans, or are we just going to be bad? We'll find out. If we're good, then it's going to be like, fuck, yes. Let's go win a world cup. I'm also interested, not saying we will.

What this guy does in terms, because when you're the US soccer coach, you're in charge of a lot of shit. Not just coaching the team on the field. You have responsibility in, like, developing the youth program. And in the past, he's worked with, like, the government of different cities and. And parts of different countries to, like, get them to buy into his youth development program. So I don't know if this guy's going to go across the United States and be like, hey, we need to work on our youth development. I'm going to meet with the mayor of, like, Chicago. I don't know if I'm going to meet with the governor of Texas or whatever, but I'm curious to see, because I think he's going to be coaching, for the most part, stationed overseas in Europe.

Okay.

Which is fine. Listen, we've tried it the other way before.

Yeah. We just.

It hasn't worked.

When he's. When he's here, he just needs to be here. He needs to be at all of them. So is he keeping another job or is this his job now?

I think this is his job.

Oh, love that.

I don't think he's like a step coach.

Good for him.

Yeah. So pocatino.

Smart move. The bars low.

A european guy from, from Argentina.

Hmm. That's interesting.

Yeah.

How do you get down there?

Don't know. Okay, operation paper.

Let's. Anything else? Are the Phillies dead?

Max, they won last night.

Okay, so they're back. I just know they've been struggling.

They were struggling, and then Schwarber had a grand slam to save the season.

The NBA schedule came out.

I saw that. Yeah. It opens up with Knicks and Celtics talking basketball.

That's about it.

What, offseason?

No offseason for us.

Sixers play the Celtics on Christmas day.

Oh, that's, that's such a gift.

That was, that was the number one thing that I, I saw.

I saw the Bulls have two nationally schemes total. I think one of them is against the Hornets on a Friday night at like 10:00 p.m. that's sick.

Is that, is that the NBA cup, though?

Might be. I don't know.

That's in mid November.

Mid November. Yeah. So. Oh, and then also, if there's any Notre Dame swimmers listening to this right now, we'll hire you.

Yeah.

They started illegal gambling ring.

I read about that. What's, what's the problem here?

I don't know, but I just know that, like, us having barstool, having its own swimming team, that we just challenge other people, like, when we get in beefs online, just like, you know what? Let's, let's, let's finish this in the pool.

Your fastest.

Kind of just have like a Harlem Globetrotters s team again. Just bring them out there against guys.

That can't really swim.

Yeah. Yeah.

The Washington generals of swimming.

Let's finish this like men. Let's finish it in the pool.

There would be a lot of deaths if that was an actual format. But I read about it. They had like, an internal pool, for lack of a better term, like an internal gambling ring. Okay, I'm confused where they would bet on, where they would bet on themselves and bet, like, amongst themselves, who's going to finish better?

And that's just fun.

That's just dudes.

Yeah. Yeah.

What's the problem?

That's crazy. If you do that, that means there's a lot of teams that would have that issue.

Yeah. Because that's, it's classic Notre Dame, though, to be like, we uncovered it just wanted once raise our hand and say we found a dicey gambling operation amongst our swimming team. So we're going to shut it down.

Yeah.

Thank us later on of this. This is Notre Dame.

Get in front of this. All right, let's do, let's, let's get, let's get ourselves ready for, for some football. Let's, before we do this, we're gonna give a couple picks. So with draftkings, you can bet on all the preseason stuff. Now I, we're thinking about prop picks, so we're gonna throw a couple out there. We, which one are you gonna pick?

I'm gonna do rushing touchdowns.

Okay. And, Max, which one are you gonna do? I'm gonna do passing touchdown.

I had receiver.

Okay, so, Max, you want to start? Who's your, who's your most receiving yards? I'm trying to get on draftkings.

I'm trying to get the odds for.

All right, then I'll start.

Yeah.

I'm going to go passing touchdowns. I know that some people might say, oh, sophomore slump. CJ shroud plus 950.

I like it.

I mean, Stefan Diggs, Nico Hollins.

Tank Dell.

Tank Dell. That offense is going to be explosive. I actually saw a picture someone, it was like a meme and it was CJ Stroud with those three guys standing on the sidelines, like, who's going to stop them?

Mm hmm.

And I wanted, I didn't, but I wanted to just circle Stefan Diggs and be like, that's, that's who. He's the guy when he doesn't get the ball. That's exactly who. But yeah. Yeah.

Gonna have to keep him happy.

Yeah. He's plus 950. Mahomes and Dak Prescott are the two favorites. So little value. Plus 950. I think CJ Shroud's gonna fucking rock this year.

I like that. Yeah, it's a good pick. Good value.

Okay, what do you have?

So for mine, I'm going to go with rushing. Touchdown leader. Brie saw who Brie saw. I just lost the odds. I think it's plus 1800. Plus 1900.

Whoa.

Something like that. And my reasoning behind it is Aaron Rodgers should play more than five snaps this year.

Right?

Memes should.

Or else memes is trapping a what to himself.

Yeah.

What are you gonna do, memes?

Yeah, I'm gonna blow myself up.

Where?

NFL headquarters.

Patrick Beverly. Not expected to sign with the NFL, but I like Bries hall because the first year with Nathaniel Hackett that Aaron Jones had in Green Bay, I think he had 16 rushing touchdowns.

Nice.

And I feel like Nathaniel Hackett is going to get him the ball inside the five. Do they have a touchdown, vulture?

Yeah. Braylon out or no, Braylon Allen is on. Yeah.

Braylon Allen. Braylon Allen is at 19 years old.

And he's actually exactly who they'll use.

He actually looked really good. Fuck. He looked really good. Again, I don't care. I like Bruce Hall. Bruce a good player. And Izzy's not knocking on the door this year.

Jalen hurts at 15 to one. Isn't crazy.

Now, Saquon.

No, no, that he is Saquon. And also he throws too many touchdowns now.

It's true.

Won't be rushing. It's good point the tush push. Who knows what's going to happen with no Kelsey.

That's very true.

It's.

What do you have, Max?

It's funny that. It's funny that Pft went breeze hall because I'm going Garrett Wilson, 14 to one.

All right. We're high on the jets.

Yeah.

Garrett Wilson has had a really good. He hasn't been a big touchdown guy, but he's never really had a big a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers. I think that that's good value. He could blow up this year.

Okay, I'll change mine to Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, 16 to one.

That's actually not a bad pick, big cat.

I kind of like that pick.

He's going to feast against the Patriots.

Yeah, he's. And he's. They're going to do the perfect amount of handing the ball off in the goal line.

Yep.

And throwing it. Jets might score a billion touches.

Has that ever happened where three different guys on the same team have led the league in touchdowns at their positions?

Well, memes gets mad that we think that the jets suck, so now he's going to get mad that we think that they're good.

Yeah. He's like, you're jinxing you, memes.

Are we being Florios right now, memes?

I don't know what this bid is.

It's actually not a bit.

Aaron Rogers has led the league in touchdowns twice in his career, so he can do it. He's proven he can do it.

Memes. We can't. We can't exist with you, memes. When we hate the jets. It's like, oh, you guys suck. When we love the jets, you're like, this sucks.

All right, so we're all in on the jets.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What is.

What's the shoebox?

No one ever went broke betting on the jets.

Yeah. All right. Ready, Hughie? Give us some so we don't listen. This is the trust tree. We're doing this because we want to be ready for football season. We hope that people will not judge us for a lack of knowledge. It's still the preseason. If we were doing this week two, you could make fun of us because we're doing this right now. You can't. We're just doing this together. Everyone's going to learn something. Okay, here we go, huey.

All right. Receiver.

Yes.

Gabe Davis.

Oh, I know this one. Jags.

Boom.

Oh, yeah.

I did not know.

I did know that one.

Well, his previous team, because the Jags.

Have, like, all the. The Jags have basically built an entire receiving core out of, like, the upside guys that will also have, like, zero catch games.

Should we do a little game, see if we know?

What do you mean?

You just guessed, like, you knew that one?

Yeah.

So?

So big cat gets a big head.

Well, we don't have to, like.

No, it's game.

Let's see.

More than 75% as a team.

We're one for one.

Okay. What were you gonna say? His former team? I.

Well, his former team has collected.

This quarterback has collected a quarterback.

Oh. I mean.

Oh, ben denucci.

It was Mitchell.

It's Mitch and Ben Denucci.

Yeah, well, I don't know if he knows Ben Denucci, but Mitch is back on the other.

The Cowboys guy.

Gucci.

Denucci.

That's in the. That's a. That's a layup for me. I know where Mitch is at all times.

We're actually three for two right now.

Yeah.

Bobby Wagner.

He's a commander.

Yes, he is.

There we go.

Had a great season last year, too.

Sterling shepherd.

Oh, Sterling shepherd.

Oh, boy. Sterling shepherd was on the Giants, and now he is on. I want to say Raiders, but that's might be close. The Darren Waller.

Oh, it close.

Straight from the Raiders.

Oh, maybe the Chargers did the charges needed.

No, it was close in the mascot, not in.

Oh, buccaneers.

Yeah. Okay, that doesn't count us getting one. Funny, though, that I was like, oh, sterling shepherd. He's a giant. Now. He must be a raider, cuz Darren Waller was a raider and then he was a giant.

Yep.

No, nothing to do with each.

Nothing.

They just like trading with each other.

Yeah.

Quarterback Tyler Huntley.

Ooh, Huntley. Where's he at? He's not in. In Baltimore anymore, hope.

Nope.

Oh, shame.

This is a good one.

Green Bay Packer.

No, hold on.

It's a fun one.

It's a fun one.

Texans.

No, no, that's Davis Mills. My God. Tyler Huntley is on the Seahawks.

No.

Damn. All right, give it to us.

The browns.

Oh, wait, that's fun.

But, jamus, it's fun. Okay, okay. How the hell the hell is Joe Flacco not on a team?

He is.

He is.

Colts.

Oh, I knew that.

There goes that one.

Okay, so we got that one, too.

Love it.

So what are we now?

We're.

We're six five.

Yeah. All right, we missed Sterling shepherd. Okay.

A quarterback. Josh Dobbs.

Okay, so we talked about this.

Josh Dobbs is on.

Did he stay? He. No. He could have stayed with the Cardinals, right?

Is he. Well, he went from the Cardinals to the Vikings. Is he. Is he a steeler? He wouldn't be.

No, no, that's. You're thinking of where he started.

Panther Titans.

No, hold on, hold on. I don't know this, but I'm just going to say. Hold on until I just say a name.

What team could you envision Josh Dobbs starting one game for this one?

I'm saying seahawks.

No.

Damn close 49 ers.

Okay.

Oh, he's going to be so good when he backs. He's bet memes. Put it in the calendar. Bet on Josh Dobbs when he plays because Brock Purdy gets a concussion. Now that I'm rooting for Brock Purdy, getting caution. But it will happen. And then we'll bet on Josh shops.

All right.

Six for six.

Odell Beckham.

Odell Beckham is a dolphin.

Yeah. Yep.

What about Michael Gallup?

Oh, where did gal Gallop? Is very underrated. Yeah. Is Michael Gallop a titan?

No.

It's Michael Gallop a colt.

No.

That'd be fun.

Michael Gallup. A Jaguar.

No.

Bronco. No.

Michael Gal.

No.

Is Michael Gallop a Ramdez?

Close.

Charger?

No.

Cardinal.

Nope.

Raider.

Yep. Retired.

He's retired.

Okay. Signed with the Raiders and then retired.

Nice.

Got it.

All right. I bet you, though, most people listening are going through the same thing we are.

Yeah.

Like, you need a reset before football season starts. You do. You don't want to get caught week one. And be like, oh, shit, he's on that team.

Yeah, you.

You can't say that out loud. Week one, you have to know your shit.

Yeah, there's a couple guys you should know, and you do know, but. Yeah, you can't get all these.

Okay, recede. Hayden Hurst.

Hayden Hurst.

Where did. He was on the Patriots.

No, that you're thinking of.

I'm thinking of. What's his name, the other. Henry. Yeah, that makes sense.

Oh, I was thinking of that guy, too.

Oh, is Hunter Henry? No.

This is Aidan Hirsch. But I was, in my head, I was thinking the double h. I was thinking, oh, this guy.

Okay, see a raven.

Yeah. No, no, no, because remember, they have likely was.

Was, like, yeah, see a Bengal.

And then Mark Andrews, who got into a car accident, and thankfully, he's okay, but then he used the car accident to remind people of the importance of being aware when you're driving a car.

Right.

Mean. Says he knows it, which makes you think sees it.

Yeah, no, I said you guys should know this because we saw him.

Oh, charger.

Yep. Okay.

That was cheating, though. That's okay.

Tyler Boyd.

Hmm, I see.

I knew he was off the Bengals.

Jag. No, he seems like a jag.

He seems like a Titan.

There we go.

Yeah.

We have, like, our trusty go to is, like, Seahawks, Titans, Jags.

Jerry Judy.

He's a brown. Yep. Okay. Yeah, we knew that. That was easy.

Jacoby Brissette.

Jacob.

Yep. He's back.

Start tonight, I think. Hanks leading him onto the field.

Yeah, Hank knows him personally.

What?

You're. You're the one who made this list. Huey.

Yeah.

I'm Alexander Madison.

Who. Now, this is one of those ones where I'm gonna say the. The packers, because the Vikings got Aaron Jones.

No.

Okay, close. Oh, close didn't make sense, but it made sense in my head.

Is he.

It's not close.

Oh, is he a. Is he a Texan?

No, he's Titan. No, see, Jaguar, tell us who he is.

Raider.

Oh, okay.

That makes sense. I like that. I like that. Fit. Sure. Yeah, that's it. I was. I was close to the fact that Josh Jacobs went to the packers and Aaron Jones went to the Vikings. So obviously, Alexander Madison would have to go to the Raiders to complete the triangle.

Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

There's wingers.

Yeah. Right?

Yeah.

Shuffled the deck. The classic packers, Viking, Raider, three way trade. Yeah, everyone knows that. Classic. All right, how many more you got?

Max, are you playing tech deck?

Yeah, he's been doing it non stop.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I did it the other night with Schrager on. I was like, dude, I can hear you doing.

Is there a better time to play with your tech deck than during a podcast?

That's on me. That's what I mean.

Memes.

Memes. Micros on.

He's just a date.

Yeah, fuck you, memes. Yeah. Good call, Max.

Tech tech cam. For the people who are watching, do tech tech cam real quick and do a trick.

You mean Ollie?

Come on.

He dropped a tech deck.

Oh, no. Get it. You control your board, bro. How many guys does it take to find a tech?

The Falcons also signed Simmons. Oh, Justin Simmons.

They're beefing up. I didn't realize. Also, Jim Leonard is coach for the Broncos.

That's cool.

Yeah. That is cool. Right? All right. How many more you got, huey?

I have five defensive players.

Oh, this is going to be tricky.

And Belichick's coaching for the University of Washington this year.

With Pete Carroll.

Yep.

Start with the easiest.

Okay.

Devin White.

I know this one.

Devin White.

He's an eagle.

Yeah.

How could I have ever figured that out?

Safety. Xavier McKinney.

Mmm.

Seahawk. No.

He was a giant.

Titan. No. Give it.

Jaguar Packer.

Oh.

Okay, the next three are all from the 49 ers. They left.

They left the 49 ers. Brennan Iook.

Randy Gregory, Eric Armstead, Chase Young.

Chase Young's a saint.

Yep. Yeah.

Not literally, but I seems like a decent guy.

He's okay.

He went to Ohio State.

Yeah, I have some free tattoos.

Randy Gregory back on the Cowboys.

No.

Randy Gregory.

Big guy.

Big guy.

Yeah.

Big giant. No. I thought that was a clue. He is a big guy.

Okay. Give it to us bucks.

Okay.

And Eric Armstead is close to the box.

Jaguar. There we go.

All right. Yeah. Feel good. Do we miss anyone big?

I feel like I have Mike Williams. Tyron Smith. I have a couple names.

Kirk Cousins.

You know, Mike Williams.

Eckler.

Eckler. I know that.

Manders.

Mike Williams went viral with the team that he signed with. When he signed with them for doing what?

Oh, yeah, he did the thing.

What do you do?

If I tell you, it'll give it away.

Just tell us.

Well, then tell us, and then we can feel good about getting it.

Taylor. Ham, egging, cheese.

Oh, he's a giant.

Or jet.

Yeah, jet. Yeah.

Okay.

We knew that.

Yeah.

It's all about getting the right answer and being like. I got that myself.

Mm hmm.

That's the key to trivia. Okay, that was good. I feel like we got a bunch of them. I'm trying to think if there's any off top of my head that I was looking at Josh Jacobs. I haven't really looked at it.

Josh Jacobs was a good one. You need to know the hacker.

Yeah, that's a big one.

Yeah.

And it's also good for your fantasy drafts, too. Yeah, like, remember where some of these.

Guys are trying to think? Anybody else? Any. Any weird guys that we didn't cover? I think we're good.

I mean, I'll throw this one out, obviously. I know, but DeAndre Swift is a bear. Yeah, I feel like that will get people a little confused, maybe. So. He is a bear.

How's Jameer Gibbs? What's the prospect on?

He's gonna be all right. He's gonna be all right. The hamstring? Just doing things, acting up. Nothing. Nothing to think about. Nothing to worry about.

Nothing to think about. Nothing to worry.

No. For us.

So I'm thinking about Jamir Gibbs. Yeah.

He's gonna be over. He's a good big kid.

That's. That's what they say about him.

You take. You gave the speech that I give to my kids when they get a boo boo. Mike, you're. You're. You're tough. You're big. You're a big kid. You're big boy. You're big girl. Just a hamstringe. Yeah, fine. You want me to. You want me to kiss the boo boo? All right, you're good. Get back out there, Jamir.

That's what Dan Campbell does. Every player gets hurt. He walks, he kisses the injury, and they just heal. Ready to go?

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I guess we could update them in real time. We're taping this on Wednesday because Hank, our wonderful Hank, my best friend Hank, my brother for life Hank, our special boy, has been bestowed with an incredible honor. Henry, would you like to tell the people where so you'll be on Mount Rushmore? Because. Recording it early, but you won't be on the rest of the show for Friday. But it's probably the great, greatest excused absence of all time.

Yeah. Truly an honor. I have been asked, we kind of alluded to it earlier in Mount Rushmore season, but I have been asked to lead the New England Patriots out of the tunnel by running on the field, by being the keeper of the light. That's the tradition in New England. So you're keeping an ass to be the keeper of the light? I'm going to be ringing the bell to lead the team out onto the field, sir. Against the Eagles.

You're lighting the lighthouse?

Essentially, yeah.

So you're running out with them on the field?

No, I'm leading them out.

How?

By lightning.

The bell on the lighthouse.

Okay.

Signal for them to run on the.

Hank, you're the lighthouse expert, not me. What does ringing a bell have to do with lighting a lighthouse?

Because I'm.

This is semantics at this point. You guys are just trying to get on Hank.

No, I'm actually very lpft.

By the time that this has aired, I do not exactly know how this system works, but by the time this has aired, you will have seen it. So I don't honestly don't have the answer for you.

Okay. I preach.

You can find out by very excited for you. They will have seen it.

Yeah.

You sound really excited.

No, you are the number one New England lighthouse fan in the world. So this is a big deal.

Most lighthouses, to keep the light, you ring a bell.

Most every lighthouse has bells equipped on it. Yeah. Cuz if you don't know, lighthouses were like, you know, to signal people, like, the ships are coming in, ships are coming in. You have to let people know. So there's bells on lighthouses.

Let's see. Keep ships away.

But what about the light? The light is the thing that's to see.

Like, there's multiple uses for a lighthouse, Dan.

It's very versatile.

Give me the two you. The multiple uses to one guide ships.

Into the harbor to alert other ships. Like. Well, who the bait sisters. You know, the Bates sisters. No, Bates sisters. Back in the revolutionary War, they saw the British coming and they got on the lighthouse to sing oh two if.

By land, one if by sea, or whatever coming in.

That does Paul Revere.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that was Paul Revere.

No, those ichabod Crane, headless horseman.

Yeah.

Well, it's exciting.

Well, congratulations.

Thank you.

We're so excited for you. They tell by our tone that we're excited. Yeah.

You guys are always excited for me, my biggest supporters, and I'd like to say thank you.

No, it's great. I mean, the summer of Hank continues. What do you think is going to be a bigger honor? Getting. Getting to ride on the duck boat with coach Missoula or keeping the lighthouse?

It's up there. The Missoula one was all time, though, as. As this is top, probably top five, but. But the Missoula one is one. One.

Are you a little worried that when you ring this bell for the lighthouse, do I have that right?

Again, I don't know exactly how the system works, but you. I'll be able to give you much more clarity on Sunday's episode.

Okay, so when you.

Sorry that I can't. When you ring to me the bell.

For the lighthouse, are you worried at all that you're ringing the bell for the ending of summer of Hank?

No.

Okay. All right.

I I says every year, summer is not over. Don't give up on summer yet, people.

It's the beginning.

It's not over.

Of the autumn of Hank.

Hanktober, dunktober, dunk, dunk. Oh, that's what is happening.

Okay, I'm dunk timber.

And.

And dunk ember.

Dunk ember. Don't you err.

No dunk anywhere. We. Too late.

Duck dunk you Ann ary mentory.

Okay, but summer's not over. I hate people that give up on summer early.

I love. I agree with you, Hank. Yeah. We quit on summer way too early.

Football season.

This is gonna be huge.

We live for the summer. You gotta enjoy every last weekend you get.

Yeah. Keep that light, Hank.

Thank you.

Are you. Are you a little bit worried that someone's gonna catch you at a camera angle? Like, was it the guy from Texas tech that was ringing that bell where it just looked like he was jerking off into the bella?

I'm not. That's a funny video, but, no, I'm not worried about that.

Okay. All right.

Good, good, good. All right.

I'd be ashamed.

Let's do the Mount Rushmore. It is the Mount Rushmore of movie quotes. It's gonna be a good one. Right now, it looks like PFT is gonna win today's Mount Rushmore because he had boobs.

Boobs was system play.

Hank, are you in last right now?

Is that a rhetorical question? I'm assuming? Yes.

Okay, so what. What's the scoring? What is it, four points?

Yeah. So I'm gonna be up by.

It's really reason.

I'm gonna be up by three on Hank.

Is it three or is it four?

Because I think you get first place. You get one or you get four.

Five.

Wait, you get first place? You get four points if you. If you get last place, you get one point. No, it's four for first place.

Or three, two, one might be four.

It's very simple. 4321. So I'm gonna get four points. Hank, you're gonna get a point. So I will be up by three.

Sure.

Movie quote.

Yeah. I don't own odd gun, let alone.

Many guns to necessitate a gun rack.

No stairway.

Okay. Ready? Ready. Hank?

Mm hmm.

Whose pick is first?

That's big cat.

Oh, is it? And who goes after me?

Hank.

I got it.

Got it.

Okay. Movie quotes. I'm gonna go with the timeless classic very easy. I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse. Godfather.

It's a great quote.

It's a quote.

I love that quote.

Yeah. You've seen that movie? Many times.

Mm hmm.

I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse.

And then he puts a dead horse in his bed.

Yeah. I mean, right? It's part of it. Yeah, that's part of the offer. Well, he declined the offer, and the.

Dead horse was like, that pushed him. Don't decline the offer.

Yeah.

Okay. Negotiation. He said way.

Yeah. He said no way. And then he said way, Hank.

Dank.

Do you like that quote?

Yeah, it's a good quote.

Okay. Was it on your list?

No.

Oh, okay, great.

My list.

I.

Again, like, I'm the worst person at this. At this game, but I went with movies that I love.

I love.

No, I know.

So.

But, like, godfather, you don't love it? I don't love it. I've seen it a few times. I haven't seen it a million times. I kind of just went with a. The quotes off top of my head from movies I've seen a million times.

So, like, you're gonna do like. Oh, you won't come in my ass. I mean, movies you love.

What movie is that?

You know what movie that is?

What about, someone help me, I'm stuck in the window.

Yeah. Oh, where you want to put it?

Usually the dryer, but I'm gonna go.

With pretty wet to me.

I gotta go see about a girl.

Ah.

Most famous quote from Huntingdez.

They end up breaking up, right?

I think it's open ended.

I know. He went to. He went to Stanford and she was fucking another guy.

Oh.

I thought he left and he went to go see about her.

His car broke down, actually, because it was a shitty car.

Okay.

Yeah.

I wouldn't know anything.

You only got 2 hours. Okay. Good quote.

Thanks.

I'm not prepared for this one. I'm.

What does that mean?

I'm not prepared?

There's a million movie quotes I've into my head, like, 40 that are just sitting here.

This one I feel good about. You guys probably won't, but it was my favorite movie growing up is, hey, I'm the.

I'm the garbage kicking Philly kicko know.

You're killing me, smalls.

Okay, good. Sandlot.

Great. Would have been funny if you just went all rocky.

That also plays like. Like, there's movie quotes and there's movie quotes that, like, people said all the time. Yeah, you just say that to, like, if. Like, you say that to me. If you're killing me, small, kill me.

Yeah.

Yeah. Okay.

All right, so I get two, right?

Yeah, you.

You get to. Yeah, and then it's Max.

Yeah, then it's Max. Okay, then it's.

When do I come?

Big cat. And big cat gets two.

Is that a quote you have?

I'm gonna go with. I'll be back.

Mmm.

Schwarzenegger.

Yeah.

Terminator.

Yeah.

There's a lot of Schwarzenegger.

Terminator. Terminator two, forget.

I think that was Terminator one. I think.

Seems like you love that movie.

Is it movies or is it quotes?

Movie quotes.

Movie quotes. Okay. All right. I just want to make sure I was getting this right.

It is spicy in here. I like.

I actually don't know which.

Might take every episode.

Number two, I'm gonna go with. I'll have what she's having. When Harry met Sally.

Couldn't tell you.

Got it, got it, got it.

I mean, I knew.

I knew. I knew that quote. I just couldn't remember the movie.

Undeniably one of the most iconic movie quotes of all time.

Yes.

They're in the diner. She's faking an orgasm. Then Rob Reiner's mom says, I'll have what she's having. Classic. Classic fit.

Undeniable. Can't deny that one.

Did you have that one, Hank?

I did not.

Okay, I am going to go. Show me the money. Jerry Maguire.

Good pick.

Okay.

Very funny scene. That was, like one of the. I think that. I remember watching that movie as, like, a kid, and like a. I think it's rated. That's a rated r movie. It was. It was one that was like. I watched it earlier than I should. I remember watching that scene being like. That was so fucking funny. And. Yeah, and it's good quote.

Are we for. For the graphic? We're obviously gonna put the movie.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, show me the money, y'all. Now it's a tick tock.

There's a great. A great line from that movie, too, that could have been on this list.

The human head weights eight pounds.

Yeah.

There's another. There's a couple.

There's a few.

Whatever. What other way.

I mean, you had me at home.

Yeah, well, is you weren't thinking of the human headaches.

That.

But I.

That's still in play.

The show me the money scene is funny. Is funny. Is the funniest one to me. That's why I picked that one out.

Yeah.

Give me my money.

Give me my money.

I. I will go with this one. It might be a stretch, but it actually applies to me the most. I actually, you know, turned on this video last night because I've been going through it a little bit in life. And in this segment specifically. Oh, the night is darkest just before the dawn.

Oh.

And I'm. It's dark for me right now.

Wrong. From.

From Batman.

The dark night. Okay. Is that true?

Yeah, definitely.

Okay.

Why else would they say it?

Yeah, good point.

Yeah. Okay, so I have two now, Hank.

I just want.

Yeah, you. You went Hank, so now Max.

You went before Max. Okay.

Correct. So that means a big guy has two.

Okay. I have two.

Yes.

I have two. Okay. All right. All right. I'll go. I'm gonna stick with the theme real quick with Al Pacino. I'm gonna go with. Say hello to my little friend.

I had it. I had it.

I had.

He's just Scarface. Classic. All right. And then I'm gonna go with a newer movie. And I feel like this is more just like people like to use this. Everyday life memes, everything far out of my heart. That is a good movie quote. I should have put that down. I'm gonna go Wolf of Wall street. I'm not leaving. I'm not fucking leaving.

That's a good one.

Yeah, it's definitely fired up. Yeah.

Yeah.

Gets you fired on a coach.

Stays fucking leave.

Yeah.

Yeah. Just get you fired up. Hank, there's a lot.

There's a lot to pick.

There's a lot of good quote.

That's what makes this hard.

Yeah, it's a good Mount Rushmore. Great topic by you, Hank. You're the one who picked it. You picked this Mount Rushmore. So credit to you for picking a great Mount Rushmore, Hank. Did you know it was your turn?

Oh, you just picked two. Okay, so it's my turn. Uh, see, this one actually, like, I think that people have the wrong. I was one of those people until I, you know, googled it to double check. But the quote is, you're gonna need a bigger boat.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You would think it's. We're gonna need a bigger boat, but it's.

You're gonna need a bigger boat.

But that's my pick.

Good quote. I had it on my list.

Yep. But I think it was. We're gonna need a bigger boat.

Yes.

I thought it was. I think we're gonna need a bigger boat.

Yeah. See? Bears style. Yeah, definitely.

But it's. You're gonna. That's the quote, is you're gonna need a bigger boat. So that's the quote.

Yep. Okay, good. Good pick, Hank. Max. Max is struggling.

I have a question.

Yes.

Can I also take a godfather quote?

Yes, of course.

Okay. Then I'll take. Leave the gun. Take the canola.

Okay.

All right. Good pick.

Good pick. From a famous scene.

Great pick.

Pft.

Oh, my. Up.

Yeah.

Okay. And I have two.

Yeah. I've thought of, like, six more quotes doing this.

I know.

Okay.

I'm.

This is very hard. It's very difficult. I'm gonna go with. Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You know what you're gonna get for a scum?

Come on.

Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you gonna get?

How can you rob the people?

Those must be comfortable shoes. I wish I had me some shoes like that.

Actually was. I was not.

Said there was a magic shoes.

I wanted you to pick it because I wanted you to do it, Jenny.

Me was like peas and carrots.

Okay.

Magic legs. I could just keep doing this. Okay, so I get two. So I'm gonna have another one. And my second pick is going to be. You can't handle the truth.

Mmm. Good one.

Versatile. You just scream it at anybody.

Ex. Very, very versatile. I hate.

My draft is horrible.

You're.

I'm just gonna keep going with, yeah, mine's.

Mine's worse.

So bad. I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna go, yo, Adrian, give me a rock.

The meatballs. No, it's great.

Like, Max never overthinks it, and that's why it does so well.

Yeah, it's true.

I'm. No, I'm gonna lose this one for sure.

Okay, Hank, your last pick.

I feel like I have to. He's the most quoted person in my life, I think the most quotable movies that he has. So I have to pick one from him. There's so many choose from. But I think what will look. The funniest on the graphic is to today, Junior.

Okay.

Had. Had to get an Adam Sandler quote on here.

Yeah.

There's so many. Like, it's. It's hard. I wanted. I kind of want to do, like, the one I like to say the most is, like, I piece of shit like you for breakfast doing pieces of shit. But that's just a lot of words.

Mm hmm.

So what.

But to today, Junior.

It's good one.

It's a good one. That's a good one. Okay, I'll go with my last one.

There's so many.

We should do Adam Sandler movies.

I know. Oh, I like this one. Fuck. I'm gonna go with it. There are so many good ones. I have so many left on the floor. Could have gone. Could have gone twelve rounds. But I love this one because you can use it for everything else.

Go, eight.

Wait, six. If you guys were the inventors of Facebook, you'd have invented Facebook. I love that.

Okay. Yeah.

Basically, just right at someone's face. Like, if you. If you would have done it, you would have done it.

The Winklevice.

Yeah. Well, Mark Zuckerberg.

Yeah. Said it's the Winklevice.

All right, so we have honorable mentions. There's so many.

So many.

There's what I like. I was kind of thinking cuz Hank is right. The smaller quotes help. Like, are you not entertained? Would have been a good one. Fuck. Why so serious, Batman?

Why so serious? Was definitely the.

Yeah.

Wonder how I got these scars.

Yeah.

Why so serious?

Is definitely just keep swimming, finding Nemo.

Yeah.

Ah, look at me, look at me. I'm the captain now.

That's good. That's a good one. I had. I feel the need, the need for speed. I like top gun, Bond, James Bond, jawn.

My team is on the floor.

Hoosiers, pain, heels, chicks dig scars. Glory last forever.

I probably fucked up. I probably fucked up my last quote. I should have gone with the other one. I was thinking about you, blitz all night. Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you can miss it. Ferris Bueller.

Ferris.

If you build it, he will come.

Yep, yep. Get to the chopper.

I see dead people.

That's good one. I know you are, but what am I? Peewee's big adventure.

Keep your.

I love that movie.

Is your friends close, but your enemies closer? Godfather.

Yeah.

There's no crying in baseball.

That's good.

No crying in baseball. Is good.

Peep Max is not giving us any honorable men.

No, I wasn't prepared.

I. One. That's very quotable, but like, I don't really know how you. Cuz you got to get the whole line in, but. Hey, Greg, why don't you go piss your pants again? That was eight years ago, asshole. People don't forget.

Yep.

I guess you could just go, people don't forget, but kind of need the whole thing. But that one people don't forget is.

Like, do we just become best friends?

Yep.

Mm hmm.

I mean, that's always us. The two of us.

If you. This is this on the. Ask my friends a lot, but if. What is the movie that you think you know the most percentage of lines.

In it for Scott.

Like, not quotes from it, but like, you like word for word, whole movie.

Yeah, Forrest Gump probably signs the lambs.

I had. I had one of those quotes in.

There of the Chianti since it's taken.

Once, tried to test me.

That's like a lot. There's a lot of dialog. I'm talking about every line. Dialog.

Oh, it puts. Puts lotion on its skin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would say I. Benjamin Rathbell, a fledgling killer's first flight. Hester Moffat, it's an anagram, Clarice. The rest of me.

Is silence the Lambs a sequel?

Kind of.

Brian Cox played Hannibal Lecter.

I think it kind of is I think Manhunter was a prequel that came out. I don't know. I get the timeline.

No. Red Dragon, which is awesome. I read an article, Hannibal two, which was not great. And then there's a Hannibal for. I want to say that was okay.

I read an article about how Brian Cox worked on the super troopers, and it was like, they offered it to Bill Murray, then he turned it down. Brian Cox read it. He was like, I always kind of wanted to do comedy, and then I would played Hannibal Lecter, and my whole career changed. I was like, wait, Brian Cox played him?

Yeah, that was Manhunter.

Yeah.

So. But that was before silence the land.

Yeah. Yeah.

So that Hannibal Lecter Lambs is a.

Sequel, is played by two different people. I don't. I don't know if they call it a sequel in, like, the classic sense of it. Yeah, it's, like, in the same universe.

Yeah. One of my favorite.

Don't need to see Manhunter to see tonsilian.

Correct.

Right. And you don't need to see Red Dragon or you don't. You see. Sounds like it's all. Dude, Red Dragon is incredible.

I've also never watch Red Dragon.

Edward Norton.

It's scary as fuck.

So fucking scary. Awesome movie.

There's a lot of naked crouching in that movie.

Yeah.

Heads up, dude, you.

Red Dragon is awesome. One of my favorite quotes of all time from a movie, but I feel like it wouldn't have really played on the graphic. And it's also. I mean, Roadhouse is a popular movie, but I used to fuck guys like you in prison, which was an ad lib. Like. Like, quote. It wasn't on the script because it still makes no sense. You just. He was. You had him in a chokehold. He said, I used to fuck guys like you in prison. So he's just saying that he fucked.

My favorite Cardi Cola.

Do it.

My favorite quote you talking to. My favorite from Roadhouse was a great one. There's, like, pain don't hurt.

Yeah, I know a lot about golf or. No, you know a lot about golf. I even know. I know even more about grass.

Yeah.

Got shit on me. Houston. Yeah.

Problem.

Houston, we have a problem.

King Kong ain't got shit on me.

Damn.

I don't streak in.

I didn't know you like to get wet and. Yeah, you just smoke PCP, Jake. Come on, Jake.

I had. If you could dodge a wrench, you could dodge a ball.

Yeah, yeah.

Head, body, head, body.

I actually think you didn't use the. The most. Oh, fuck. One just popped in my head.

We're gonna say urine.

What?

Dodger. No, like, yeah.

No, that's what I love about these high school girls.

Yeah.

Older, and they stay the same age or just. All right, all right, all right.

What are some.

Yeah. Shit. I also had Smokey. This not Nam.

This.

Bowling there.

Yeah. Yep.

And also. Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

You're entering a world of pain. Yeah, there's a lot of good.

This is what you get when you fuck a stranger in the asshole.

Yeah. They're nihilist.

He has a great one.

Asked to ass.

Yeah.

Requiem for a dream.

Yeah.

By the way, I don't know if this was on camera.

No, I don't think it was.

We were. I think it was a disk golf, right? We were playing disk golf, and we started to do the requiem for a dream. Music. All right, this is the dramatic. This is the dramatic opera.

Sonic.

Oh, that goes. Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. You've heard it in, like, every dramatic movie, every dramatic commercial. And Hank said, I feel like you.

Guys don't understand satire, even though that.

Was so serious when you said that.

There was no way that was satire. What did he say?

Long was from wet cream for a dream.

Pft.

Like, do you think I didn't know was from wecaring for a dream? I think.

Requiem.

Requiem.

Hank said that the. The 2009 Boston Celtics made that song famous, right?

Which, like, if you think I was being serious when I said that.

I think you were.

We're gonna have to check the tapes.

Yeah, we'll check the tapes.

We'll get to the tapes. We'll go to the tapes. This is good. Mount Rushmore.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

Yeah, that's a good one.

You ever been in turkish prison?

That's a good one. Shit.

Anything else?

Motorboat and son of a bitch.

Good Mount Rushmore, Hank.

Good Mount Rushmore.

Not you. Not you.

Yeah, I thought you would have gone.

You and shine.

What's the one. What's the. I'm the guy who. When he's like, I'm the guy who does this, and you're the other guy.

Who'S a bad guy.

I'm the guy that does his job.

Yeah.

He must be the other guy. Yeah, that's departed.

Yeah. Oh, I thought you'd go with some of those.

Whose car we take?

All you care about is playing coke and xbox. Whose car we take in?

Yeah, you missed that.

That was a big miss for you.

I could have just done Boston movies.

Yeah. Playing football for West Kane and high school was the opportunity of your life.

But college soccer.

All right, good.

Mount Rushmore. Thank you, Hank. Good luck.

Thank you.

Lighting well, when this airs, you have already. Wait, is he lighting it or is he ringing?

He's. He will have rung the bell, and you can't unring about.

He's gonna lead the team out onto the field. And that's what you guys don't understand.

It's great. They had the rugby team do it for week one. Hank, week two is big.

Yeah. Ring that bell.

Sounds like you're.

Yeah.

No, I love rugby.

No, if I had said it. Yeah, he said that way.

I said no.

Yeah.

They had the rugby team do it week one, and then you did week two.

Different. The free jacks did it.

You're going to be great. You're going to do great.

Sweet.

Hank, you're. Listen, I love rugby. I love you. This is a big fortnight for me. And you. You love rugby, too. You stiff arm Max. Remember that?

Yeah, that was a great clip. We should post that more.

Yeah. Memes. What happened to that one? That clip kind of fell off. Did somebody pay you off.

The stiff arm one?

Yeah.

No, I can bring back.

Okay, great.

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San Diego, Dayton.

It's another good one that we always look forward to.

Yeah. I'm actually very excited this year. I believe Washington and Washington State play like week three or four.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is Los Angeles Chargers Khalil Mack. Wish he was still a bear. This is our grit week interviews presented by Coors Lite. So, Khalil, first of all, thank you for joining us. First question, same question we asked everyone on grit weekend. How do you define grit?

Oh, man. This is a badass, tough motherfucker willing to do anything to. To help the team win.

Okay. Yeah, that's a good answer.

You a badass, tough motherfucker.

I mean, it should be obvious. I shouldn't have to tell you. Yeah, I wanted to be obvious with my actions on the field, not just speaking on it.

Yeah, I would say you are the true badass motherfucker. Doesn't have to to say they are. Everyone just knows.

I want you to see it for me.

Yeah, you are. You are a true badass.

You can redo the intro if you want. We're joined by a very special guest, Khalil Mack. A true badass motherfucker.

Yes.

That sounds good.

So, Khalil, I did. I talked to you a little yesterday. I wish you were still a bear, but we're excited to have you on. I'm happy that you're doing well with the Chargers. You had how many sacks you have last year?

17 and a half.

She? 17 and a half.

You're 17? Maybe 17.

I should have actually introed it differently. Future hall of famer. Have you have you thought in your head, like, the number of sacks you want to get to because you're over 100?

Yeah.

You're getting into that territory where it's like, these are some real dudes up here.

Yeah.

Do you have a number in your head?

Definitely don't have a number in my head. I. The only number I had in my head was the hundred. Knowing I can get to that was pretty cool last year, but from now on, it's just going out and playing ball.

Yeah. And it's crazy that you got to 100 sacks with. For people who don't know your story with football, you only played one year of high school football.

Right.

So there's a whole alternate world where you don't get hurt playing basketball in high school and you never play football.

Low key. Yeah, yeah. Physical train or something. Yeah. That's trainer. Yeah.

So is it. It was a knee injury.

Yeah, yeah. Patella.

You tore your patella.

Yeah, yeah.

And then you came back and you became one of the most explosive football players in the world.

Yeah, man. Yeah. God is good. God is amazing, man.

So. So when you switch to football, because you were, you know, obviously you were thinking, all right, basketball. I'm gonna get a scholarship. You have one year of high school football, where you, like, this might be the end for me. Like, I. Unless I have to play out and then hope that something falls in my lap here.

Yeah. Low key, man. But the first day, we put pads on my head coach at the time, in high school, his name is. Wait, is Ashman. He said after the padded practice, he was like, I might be able to get you a scholarship, man. That might be turned into offer from Liberty University. And then that. That changed. That changed into an offer from a university at Buffalo.

Yeah. So that was first day. He was like, oh, yeah, you might be a scholarship guy.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's awesome. So you go from Florida, you grow up in Florida, and then you go up to Buffalo. Yeah, we love Buffalo. Buffalo. Great people up there. But the first time you got to really experience the cold in Buffalo as a. As a guy from in Florida, what was that like?

Man, it was life changing, man. I think I had my biggest winter coat on the first day of maybe, like, 50 degrees, and everybody was looking at me like, why you got your biggest eye? I think it's called Burlington coat factory. My pop took me to Burlington coat factory to get me the big jacket, and I had it on, thinking that was the coat as it was going to get. But when it got to negative ten five, it was definitely life changing.

Yeah. And at Buffalo, you were insane. First team all american in the Mac, which is hard to do. At what point in your career at Buffalo could you tell? Like, not that the game was easy for you, but you were clearly just so much better than everyone else on the field.

Man. I remember the first day of padded practice. Going against the tight end at the time was a guy named Jesse Rackley. I think he was probably, like, a decorated guy as well in the Mac conference. And I remember whooping him pretty, pretty good. Shout out to Jesse, but I remember whooping him pretty good. Then going against another guy, James starks him, instilling that confidence in me, like, man, you can ball, bro. Once I heard it from him and seeing him go on to the green Bay and do what he did this first year in the league and win the Super bowl and all those different things, it kind of helped my confidence.

Yeah.

And then going to the draft process, I know GM's, they. They like to get real weird with it. They like to figure out, like, if a guy is mentally tough enough, especially if they come from a small school.

Right.

Like, maybe all your physical stuff is out there and they measure it and they're like, yeah, it fits the profile.

Yeah.

When they're talking to you, where they, like, were they trying to fuck with you a little bit? Like, knock you off balance in the interviews?

I feel like the only interview I had that ended up being, like, the funniest one because that's the team that drafted me was with the raiders. And so talking to them, it was definitely funny in a sense. So they try to get a feel for the type of person I was just from the 15 minutes conversation at the time. But it wasn't so much of them trying to figure out if I was tough because I feel like they can already tell. But just seeing the demeanor that I have off the field versus the one I have on the field is kind of two different things.

Yeah.

Did you talk to Mark Davis in that interview process?

Not Mark Davis. I just remember talking to Reggie McKenzie and all the guys that were under him at the time, and, yeah, I didn't get a chance to talk to Mark.

No, Mark, he's a hero of ours. I know you probably have your differences with the whole contract.

No, no, no. It's all love. It's still love from. From Mark. But the Gruden. The Groot. The Gruden guy is the guy that I probably had the biggest issue with.

Yeah, that was weird.

Right?

Because I remember the contract negotiation because you were first team all pro. And was it, was it Oakland at the time or was it Vegas?

Man, I really can't remember what year maybe it was with the Bears. I was with the Bears in 18.

Yeah, yeah.

So I know you had your differences with the organization, but Gruden was coming in and it felt like that contract negotiating just kept getting dragged out and dragged out. It's like, when is this going to happen? Is it going to happen? And then you get traded and Gruden says that you didn't want to be there.

Yeah.

But you never talked to Gruden.

Exactly.

Have you talked to him yet?

Man, I talked to him a few times since then. A few supposed to be private conversations, but one of them was, you motherfuckers won the trade or whatever at the time. And I knew we were going to play Oakland that next year after my 18, that year in 18 with the Bears. I think we was going to play him in London. He was like, I'm going to send the house at your ass whenever we play. And that motherfucker, he really did. Yeah, it was funny. It was funny just interacting with him over the phone and kind of squashing the beef, but not really.

Yeah.

Because it always gonna be that same, that same feeling every time I see those colors on the other side. Yeah.

Use it to motivate you. I had another question about your draft process. How much do you think your helmet, your face mask helped you get drafted so high? Cuz that was the coolest face mask ever. The one you wanted wore buffalo. You look like Bane.

Yeah, I wanted to wear it in the league. I thought Ray Lewis probably wore it maybe the year before. Yeah, two years or three years before Justin Tucker was wearing it. And then they changed the rules as soon as I got to the league. And so maybe that did help.

Yeah, that was the coolest thing ever. I also read a story, I wonder if you can, if you remember this. I read a story that you were so dominant in practice at Buffalo that they would make you line up like five yards off of the line because they were like, the offense, can't I get their plays off?

No, that ain't true.

Okay. They never did that.

That's, that's funny.

Okay. And then the other one, the other story I read, which was crazy, I guess there was a pass rush where you one arm hit the tackle.

Yeah.

And he was falling into the quarterback and then you grabbed the tackle and basically picked him back up so he didn't fall into the quarterback, man.

I think I'm still doing that shit.

It's great. He said they watch it after, like, what the hell? Just like the quarterback. The story I read, the quarterback watched it after and was like, clean. Mac saved my life because you.

You.

You basically threw him in the air.

Yeah.

And then as he was falling, you grabbed him and pulled him back.

Quarterbacks. That's been on the wrong end of that. I think Eli. I think I call Eli. I went trying to do it, but it just so happened that happened that way. I think Eli was the only guy I probably got like that, just throwing someone else into him. And Kirk Cousins, maybe.

Yeah, that's. Yeah. Those two check out for guys that would get sacked like that. Your best sack of all time was when you sacked Aaron Rodgers with your ass.

Yeah.

That was awesome. You.

You.

It was the ass sack.

That was.

I thought they call it the back. The back sack.

No, it back that ass up.

Yeah. Was that the week one game?

It was a great sack.

I don't think it was that one. When NFC, when we. When we clinch the NSC.

Yeah, yeah.

But in the play, you can watch it back and you realize, I'm not gonna be able to turn around. I'm just gonna stick my ass and your ass forced to fumble. I mean, it's true.

I knew. I knew he was somewhere back there. I was trying to grab. Grab at the ball.

Mm hmm.

And so, yeah, whatever, whatever. By any means, I was trying to get that motherfucker. Yeah.

I do have to. To bring up a bad memory. The double doink. But I want to talk about the 2018 bears, because that defense was so much fun to watch. At what point in the season were you like, this is a different, like, because I thought, you know, if you beat the Eagles, like, the sky's the limit with the way the defense is playing.

Yeah, man. Yup, yup, man. Bring it back. Memories like a mug, man. The first day there, man, I kind of just got a feel for the guys, knowing that calf and Fuller was there. I knew you had a ball on the outside, but I didn't know a lot about Prince and Mooca Moore.

Yep.

But sitting down talking with him and then figuring out that he can press off the line and all these different things, and I didn't even know this young guy, Eddie Jackson, was in the back end ready to catch the ball and score at any moment. Yeah. Along with Amos and Hicks. And then you got two guys, a guy that just got drafted in Ron Smith at the time and Danny Trevathan in the middle and Nanakim and Eddie Goldman and Leonard Floyd on the outside. So it was like, I didn't know I was coming into this because I really didn't know a lot about the Bears organization before I went, I think I made a joke and said I methadore, like, the whole McCaskey family and had no clue who was who.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. It was, it was like, a real, like, big shock in the culture of, like, just seeing how big that family was and how much that team meant to the city of Chicago.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that double doink, how long did.

It take you to, man?

People still just, like, spam it in my replies on Twitter all the time.

I'm a bit delusional because, like, at the time, I was thinking, man, it won't be so bad. We can keep this group together.

Yeah.

We can come back next year and have another shot.

Yeah.

And that's what I immediately fixed my mind to. But as time goes on, you feel it more. And just the understanding of, damn, that was a rare opportunity right there, man, to really do what I want to do before I, I hang them up.

Yeah. Do you think it was maybe a mistake? The next season started with Matt Nagy doing, ending every practice with kickers kicking from that spot.

Oh, man, I see. I don't know that. I didn't even know that.

Yeah.

He tried to, like, exercise the demon. All that does, it just puts it right back in your head.

Yeah.

I mean, it is a crazy play.

Yeah.

Double doink.

And you guys are so good. Like, I know that I'm obviously very biased and everyone laughs at the Bears and we're a joke and all that stuff, but that team was playing, like, I remember the, the game that I think about in that season.

Yeah.

Was when the Rams, who end up went, going to the Super bowl that year, come with their offense to soldier field. And I think you guys didn't even let them score a touchdown, just absolutely demolish them. And I was like, this is different.

Yeah. Yeah, man, that was, that was a special group, man. And also with coach Vic Fangio, man, just the mastermind behind him as a whole and him understanding the players that he had and making sure before the week we were prepared and knew what we were going to do and everything was just going to be, we expected to dominate the teams that we went against. And so, yeah, man. Shouts out to them, man, I definitely miss that group.

Do you miss bare weather at all?

Nah, I don't miss the winner. I don't miss the wintertime, but I miss, like, the fall, seeing the fall seasons and all those different things, man. Chicago is a beautiful city, man. I moved from Glencoe to. Down to, like, the. What they call that the golden.

Triangle or the Gold coast, you know?

Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah.

Wait till my dick stops working. Um.

Any questions about our dick? If you. If they come up, if it comes.

Up naturally, we're happy to address.

Listen, guys need to be able to talk to each other. It's fine, by the way.

So you mentioned. You mentioned your. Where you're living?

Not really that good.

We have to. We have to bring. I told you this yesterday. We have to put to bed the Halloween. The famous Halloween story because the media ran with it.

Yeah, the.

Khalil Mack hates kids. Khalil Mack hates Halloween.

What was that?

Shut down his house for Halloween. Turned off the lights, had had a security out front. What happened, man?

So what happened was some type of way my address was on the news in Chicago, and I just had random people just randomly coming up to my house for probably like a week before. Before Halloween even came about. And so talking to my guy, tarpy. I don't know if you know John. That my guy tarp. I'm like, tarp, man. I don't really feel too safe right now. I'm trying to figure out the Chicago media system. Like, they can just put your house online on the news. He's like, man, trust me, it's different. But we'll figure it out. And I'm like, okay, bet before Halloween, we gonna have to figure something out. Cause I know it's probably gonna be a lot of traffic coming through here, and I wanna make sure. Everything good at the house.

Yeah.

He was like, okay, bet we can set something up, man. So he just so happened to have one of the security from the team to sit outside to make sure wasn't anybody really trying to just break in for so much of the. For so much of the word. For the turn, but, yeah. And at the time, I don't think I had my gate up yet. I think it was partially up, maybe.

Yeah.

Like, it was, like, partially up, and the entrances were, like, no gates. And it looked. It looked a little awkward, but at the time, I didn't have any candy. I just moved in. I don't think I had a bed at the time. For real. And so it was one of those things. It wasn't.

So, for the record, Cleomack does not hate Halloween.

Yeah.

And clean Mac is for the kids.

I don't celebrate. I personally don't celebrate.

You might hate Halloween.

Halloween.

No, I don't celebrate it.

Okay.

I don't sell.

Why don't you celebrate it?

I don't celebrate it because of my beliefs.

Okay, all right, all right, all right. So. But do you. Are you for the kids?

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Absolutely. I just wasn't for, you know, your dress getting leaked.

I agree with that.

Yeah. I was new. That was new for me. Coming from. Coming from San Ramon, California. And it was. It wasn't that intense.

Yeah. Okay. That's fair.

So if a kid comes up to you, not on Halloween, different day, dressed in a costume, and they're like, mister Mac, Mister Mac, can I have some candy, please? Mister Mac, would you give that child candy?

You have a bag, you have a full candy?

Absolutely.

Okay.

Absolutely, absolutely.

Good.

Y'all seem. Yo, Halloween, guys.

Yeah, I like candy.

You like candy?

Yeah.

Yeah. What kind of candy you like?

I like, so my favorites are, like, sour patch kids.

Oh.

So I like three musketeers a lot. I like Twix. I like Reese's peanut butter cups.

We saw, we saw down in, I think it was a linebackers room. There's just two boxes full of candy.

They said that that wasn't yours, though.

No, no.

This coach, Ben Herbert know about that?

Man, I hope not.

Yeah.

I think I seen a picture of you doing the neck. Yeah.

Yeah. How strong was your neck when he, did he test your neck?

Oh, man. He tested your neck?

Yeah, tested our neck.

What test did he do?

He put us through a neck workout. Yeah, he.

He pushed on our head.

He put his hand on the back of my head and then gave me a neck workout.

Do you think he's made you harder to break?

I mean, that's literally what he did.

Yeah. The pictures weren't great for us. They were not great.

But my neck is so sore this morning.

Yeah, my neck is very sore.

My jaw, too, for some.

I was working hard, real hard.

That's a different thing, though. That's unrelated.

Do you think he's made you harder to break, man?

Absolutely, man. Coach. Because her, man, smart dude. Intense.

Yeah.

You know, you try to, you know, come all as intimidating to some people, but I like, I like, I like that energy, man. Almost come off like one. Like on an I. Fullbacks, that's. That's a little. Throw it off in the head.

Yeah, yeah.

That's gonna try to knock your head off, but, yeah, he a good dude, man. He understands the body, man.

Wait, so what position group is the craziest on a football team? Like, what room is like, don't fuck with those guys.

Crazy in what sense? Like, crazy in, like, what sense?

Just like they're a little off. Like, mentally, they're a little off. They gotta be a little off to play that. So maybe it's d line.

So can we do a top five?

Yeah.

All right. So crazy in the sense of the word. So, yeah, you have to. You. You. Ideally, you want your d line to be a little off. Yeah. Yeah. You want them to. Yeah. Just get mad at nothing. Yeah. Then you want your linebackers.

Yeah.

Whether it's edge or inside. And then you want what? You want your old line.

Yeah.

You want your line. I I. Lowkey. I prefer the O line to be at the top of that list.

Yeah.

Nowadays, it don't seem like it's a lot of, like, crazy old lime Olam and they seem like they got a lot of sense.

Yeah.

But, like, back Richie and cockato.

Nowadays, so I put them three. Who else you got?

I mean, I would have assume you want defensive backs to be a little crazy because they have to.

You want them to be crazy, but you want them to be a little. A little. You want them to be a control to kind of control the aggression. You don't want them like a safety, maybe.

Yeah.

You want your safety to be a little throwed off. Like, Derwin definitely got a little. You got a little. You got a little bit to him.

Yeah, he scares me.

I like that.

He wanted those like that. Knock your head off. But, yeah, you. You could say DBS, but I want to put the. Who I want to put in there. I want to put you. Yeah, you run it back. Full back. Running back. Full back room in there.

Yeah, crazy.

Last. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think the kicker. Got it. Got to be like a different type of delusional, 70, 60 type.

Crazy.

Yeah.

Like, oh, yeah.

I don't even know what a goalpost is.

Yeah. Windy City. What? Like, I don't care about the wind. If it's going this way. I'm kicking. So it's like that type of crazy. Yeah. Like Janakowski.

Yeah.

Yes, that's my guy.

What was it like meeting him for the first time, man?

It was unique, man. I did not know. I did not know what type of dude I was gonna actually meet. I thought he was, like, an older guy, but general was, like, super cool and laid back and. Yeah. He'll have something to drink for you in the back of the plane if you wanted some.

Talk to you about Poland.

Yeah.

Oldest coach. Yeah.

I remember they brought him out one time to try a 76 yard field goal going in a halftime.

I know you made it.

I don't think he made that one. I think that one landed, like, a little bit short because, like, 76 yards. That's. Bro, that's crazy long.

Listen, that was the only kick I knew that was built like a. I don't even know, like a. Yeah, yeah.

How. How far can you throw football?

I say maybe 60, 70 yards.

I heard that you have an unreal arm, but you. So you played quarterback when you were a kid and you thought much, couldn't throw short passes.

No, no, that's fake. Yeah, that's fake. Yeah. I don't know what else.

Yeah, you had good touch. That's what I read.

I could do. I could throw a decent ball, but.

I mean, 67 yards, that's pretty good.

Like, why aren't we using trick plays?

I mean, we had a plate in Chicago, man. I don't think we had a chance to run it. It was like Santa's, but not Santa's reindeer. I think that's for Keem. It was something. It was something, like, alone in it with a Christmas vibe with Naggy.

Okay.

But we never got a chance to run. It's almost like the Derrick Henry play.

Okay, so you were gonna get the. But you're gonna get it off the. Throw it.

Yeah. Jumping through it.

Awesome.

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt Nagy was, like, looking down his play. She had said, bu. And he was like, I can't call the fun play.

Need that.

That's not me.

I need that play.

No, he definitely. But we. Later on, we went in situations where we can play around too much.

Tell Coach Harbaugh, put something in for you.

I mean, I would hope so.

Yeah.

I feel like. I feel like he would do it. So you just get to, like, know him, obviously, because he's still relatively new relationship with you guys here. We love Coach Arbaugh.

Yeah.

He's, like, a brutally honest guy.

Oh, yeah.

And he's a football guy through and through.

Yeah.

So I imagine that the two. You kind of get along as a veteran, it seems like that's the kind of guy that you could identify or not identify, but be like, I respect this guy because I've been around the business long enough to know that you want a guy that will give me bad news or tell me I'm not doing something right and be direct with me.

Absolutely, man. Absolutely. And that's from top to bottom, man. You could tell whenever he speaks in front of the team, it's like he's going to whatever is on that paper for him to talk about. He's not going to hold back from it. Whether somebody's late or somebody ain't doing whatever they supposed to do, he's gonna let be done. And that's the directness, and that's the footballness of who he is.

He always says the human body craves contact, which I think is true, but maybe not. Like, as a veteran. Maybe you get back to training camp and you're like, I don't really miss training camp.

Right?

Yeah. I mean, for the lack of. The lack of what? The lack of the meetings. But the game, the love of the game. And I love coming out on the practice field, but talking about football all day and putting it in terms and all that, it's like, huh? I could do without that part. Let me go do the fun part.

And go play on. So we had Dallas Goddard on last year, tight end for the Eagles, and he played at a small school. Not like Buffalo. Buffalo is a plays in a real conference. They played north.

I appreciate that. That's my first time hearing that.

Something like that. Yeah.

And he told a story about how, when he was playing against these guys, like, he would go out and the DBS would be like, can you take it easy on us because you're that much bigger and stronger? Did you ever have a moment like that in the Mac where maybe not take it easy on us, but it's like, the guy. You're beating up the guys so bad, they're just like, this is this. I'm going to be an accountant next year. I don't want to. I don't want to play against you anymore, man.

I had a weird moment. I wouldn't say it was to that extent. It was definitely like a moment of, like, what the. What the fuck this dude just say? Yeah, it was my. University of Ohio University. Ohio University, yeah, yeah, the Bobcats.

Yeah, yeah.

And so it was maybe like a guard or a tackle. It's like, man, um, can we take a picture after the game? And I feel like it might, like, be like the second quarter at the time. What's going on?

He's trying to kill you. Kindness.

Yeah. That's weird. Yeah, that was a weird moment, but other than that, I don't think I had too many.

Yeah. But it had to feel at times, it's like, no one can stop me.

Oh, man. That was my mindset. That's been my mindset my whole career, man. Be a grown man amongst boys.

Yeah, yeah, me too.

Yeah.

So is it still that way? Like, are there times when. When the game feels easy to you.

Man, last year, man, it was. It got a lot easier. Just switching my mindset, being around guys like Joey and my coach at the time, gift Smith, just learning new things, learning new nuances and things to put into my game. It simplified it that much more. And that's. That's where I. I feel like you can always get better getting better or you're getting worse.

So we might be dumb because we watch the games on a couch on Sundays, which we watch all the games at the same time, which is hard to do. You've never done that before? We do it every week, but we sit there, we watch, and then we come up with these theories. And we were watching the Chargers last year, and Brandon Staley, obviously, he liked to mix it up on fourth down, on offense a lot. And at times, we were like, I don't know that I would like playing defense, even though he's a defensive coach, I don't know that I'd like playing defense in that system, because you never know when you're gonna get back out on the field. Like, you don't get that much time to rest. Was that a conversation that you guys had with coach? Which is like, let us. Let us take a break sometimes.

That's what. That's where the crazy and delusion come in, because it was like, man, I'm riding. I'm riding with you, coach, whatever you decide, you know what I'm saying? I know the offense gonna convert on fourth down, and if they don't, it's another chance for us to go out there and kick their ass. That's always been my mindset. Whether they turn the ball over Obed is another opportunity to go out there and kick their ass.

Yeah.

And so that's where the delusion turns on when you're on the field.

That's where we're wired different. Yeah. Future hall of fame NFL players, where we watch and we're like, dude, we just want to rest.

Like, if you're gonna make me. If you're gonna make me go out there, don't send me back out on the 35 yard. I'm going to give up a touchdown.

Yeah.

Like, make them have to work for it. Like, let some clock tick away here.

Exactly.

Oh, man.

Let us chill for a minute. Seems fun. Well, Khalil, this has been awesome. I have one last question. It's a Chevy.com question. Go to Chevy right now. Chevy Silverado. Best truck ever. You're not much on social media, right?

No.

So do you ever see, like, any, like, crazy fans, like, on social media for you, or is it ever weird you out?

Weird in what sense?

Like, I searched. I was, like, trying to find the weirdest tweets, and I have a couple. I'm. Yeah, you could tell me if this is weird. Someone tweeted, I fucking love you, khalil Mack. Khalil Mack is my whole life. I die for Khalil Mack. Whoa. For the record, I don't want to die, but if Khalil Mac was like, hey, you have to die. That. So that I can live, I do it like, that stuff's weird, right? Those are all my tweets. I mean, I love you. I literally. If you had said in that. 2018. No, yeah, 2018. If you're like, hey, big cat, you got to die so I can live a bowl in my head, no problem. Got you.

It's ride or die.

The one that says, khalil Mack is my whole life. That one is a little uncomfortable, I'll admit that. Hand up. I got a few more things going on than just you.

For the record, if somebody ever. God forbid, if you ever find yourself in a life or death situation, just tell him, hey, go kill big, right?

I'll take it. I'll take it. Even though you're not on the bears anymore, I'll still take it.

No, man. It's all love, man. I definitely appreciate you guys having me on.

Yes, yes. It's been awesome.

Cool experience.

Yeah, we're excited for this season. See what the chargers do. And, yeah, when you. When you get into the hall of fame, I'll have to come to Canton. Maybe I'll introduce you. Maybe I'll actually think about this. What? This would be the greatest hall of fame speech ever. I get up and I'm like, I'm now presenting Cleel Mack. And then, boom. Shoot myself in the head.

Oh, come on, bro.

You tell me that people wouldn't remember that. Most memorable hall of Fame induction ever?

Come on.

You might get some blood on the gold jacket. That might not be good.

Yeah, we do a little cleanup. Pft will be there to clean it up.

Clean it up. And then I'll do the eulogy before him before you're inducted. It'll be a whole thing.

Be great.

I think you're like, I do have one last. Last question for you, because I read somewhere, I don't know if this is true or not, I read that one of your favorite bands in the entire world is Hanson.

Fuck, no.

People are just, like, online. So it's not handsome.

No.

Why not?

You say, why not?

Yeah.

I don't even know. Might be the only song. Yeah, they got more.

So it's just about.

It's been a minute.

Okay?

Minute. It's been a minute. Listen to it on purpose or just listen to it?

Listen on purpose.

No, I don't. I don't think I listened to it on purpose.

But you taught yourself guitar, right?

Yeah, I tried, man, to my. To my finger got stuck in somebody. Hell, man. And.

Yeah, that thing is gnarly.

Dude.

That.

Let me see your finger real quick. Yeah, that would actually be good for guitar.

Really?

Yeah.

Hell, no. It's not. Okay. I can't bar anything, bro.

Yeah, well, John Mayer played entire concert with his index finger.

Yeah, that John Mayer, bro.

That's.

That's a tough motherfucker.

That's a tough grit.

Hell, yeah.

That's grit right there.

Gritful.

Dead. All right. Well, Khalil, thank you so much. We appreciate it, man. Huge fan.

No doubt, man. Thank you, man. Appreciate you guys time.

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And now for something completely different. Okay, we welcome on a very, very special guest. It is our grit week, presented by Coors light. It is executive director, a player performance for the Los Angeles Chargers coach Ben Herbert. Coach Herbs. Can we call you coach Herbs?

Please do.

Okay.

Yeah. 99.99% of people, it's Herb or coach Herb.

Okay. Love it. We got to start grit week off with the first questions. The easy question. How would you define grit?

Your ability and willingness to do any and all things regardless of circumstance.

That's a great answer.

Okay. I like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love that word. And most, most importantly, what it represents to me, it's. It's pretty clear. Yeah, that's how I see it.

Yeah, that's concise. That's to the point, makes sense. How do you instill grit in somebody or decide something that you have?

You know what? I think certain people in their upbringing and their exposures in life, they get exposed to some things that require more of it and nurture the development of it. But I definitely believe it is something that can be developed through exposure. And the best thing is, it doesn't have to be like a, like, I just think daily exposure in small doses, some days in, you know, bigger doses, but just that repeated exposure, you know, and as someone's development of it, you know, starts to blossom. And then for me, you just re encourage when you see it and you see guys display it or you see a group display it. And I love to just reinforce, like, that's what it looks like, that's what it feels like. Please show me more of that. Wow, that's.

Are those the words you use?

Yeah, yeah, along those lines.

Yeah. I. So I gotta say, I was, I was doing a little research for this interview, and I watched a clip of coach Harbaugh talking about the first time he met you and how he had to avert his gaze because you locked in and saw through his soul. So I was prepped for the handshake, but even. Even prepping myself for the handshake, you gave me a look through my soul and I had to look away. So what is that? You just can look through someone's soul? No, you're doing it right now. I don't know what you're doing. You're doing it right now.

The key for me, eye contacted is powerful. You know, I have two boys who are ten and 13. As soon as they could really comprehend, you know, shaking a, another man's hand or shaking anyone's hand, for that matter. And in the eye contact, there's just something about the eyes. And when you're not accustomed to looking into someone's eyes, when you communicate with them, it's very uncomfortable.

Yeah.

However, you can learn and you can develop that as well. And, you know, I always tell guys, I'm not interested in, like, trying to be this tough guy, like, stare at you or, you know, but I. Eye contact. I'm not interested in running away.

Right.

With my eyes. I can't move physically. Like I tell people, you can't move physically, but you'll go somewhere else with your eyes. I prefer to just stay.

We're just staring at each other right now.

Periodically, you look away if need be, you know, but, yeah, it's just eye contact is just something about it.

Yeah.

I'm not. And, like, I literally see it as. I'm not interested in the. I like to be right here and stay there.

Locked in.

Yeah, locked in.

And coach Harbaugh also called you his x factor, and you started. We were talking beforehand, you're a badger. You went to Wisconsin. Where's that? Wisconsin, Arkansas, and then Michigan. Your career and learning all these things, being around football so much. Do you think that you're an x factor now? Are you feeling like, hey, I know how to do this better than anyone else at this point?

No. That's the last thing that I think.

Okay.

It's a incredible honor for coach to view me the way that he does. But what I do know and what I've learned over time is, you know, what I do like this moment. I'm right here right now, and then I'll move on to the next moment. What I've done in the past, what I'm. I don't just think or even. I don't let myself. What the future holds is irrelevant to me right here, right now. Right. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do this to the best of my ability with you guys, right. And then move on to the next thing. I don't get caught up in. You're the difference, or you're the reason for greatness. A team was great, or you're the reason that they were terrible, or. I've experienced all of those scenarios. I just. I like humble and hungry, right? I'm gonna. Coach hires me to do what I do, and it's my responsibility to really just keep up with him.

Yeah.

He's the tone setter. He's the tip of the spear. It's easy to respect a guy that conducts, that conducts his business the way he does, and that inspires me to just be sharp every day.

Yeah.

I knew you were the real deal when I was. I was looking into, like, big cat, you know, doing some research. Before we sat down, I looked at your social media, and it still lists you as the strength and conditioning coach of the University of Michigan. And from that moment, I was like, that's a guy that's locked in on his job. That's like, I don't care about social media. Forget that nonsense. I'm right here, right now. I don't think that you've tweeted since, like, 2017. But, again, that. That's the kind of guy that I want strengthening and conditioning my players. Have you thought about changing it?

No. Yeah, I haven't, to be honest. You know, I got in when I went from Wisconsin. You know, we went back to. Back to back Big ten championships. We went to Arkansas. And so you get accustomed to, you know, a lot of people saying a lot of positive things about, you know, we're big, strong, physical, all these. All these different, different things. And then we went three and nine that first year, and we were not labeled that, and I got encouraged to get involved with social media and engagement, you know, do these different things. And then it just took me on a roller coaster, emotionally, that I was like, you know what? I prefer to not be on this emotional roller coaster. So then I just disengaged, and now I. You know, people are like, coach, you, like, you live under a rock, kind of. You don't. I have very little awareness of other, you know, things other than what people put in front of me. I just kind of stay in my own world, you know, here. You find me in the room. You find me at, you know, my current address. That's. That's about.

That's the extent of it.

Yeah.

I mean, I was.

I was listening to a podcast that you did with the guys here, and they asked what you do in your, like, spare time for fun, and your initial answer was clean. You clean stuff. Yeah.

So I. There's something about people that. That get it. There's people out there that they just enjoy. Enjoy doing that. I love taking something from, you know, if it's disorganized or messy, if it's mine, I'm not interested in doing it. Doing it for you guys.

Right.

But if it's mine, I just. I enjoy. I couldn't tell you why.

Yeah.

All of those things, and so I find myself when I, you know, it's just a peaceful place for me, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. And you. I also heard that. So, this new facility is incredible.

Yeah.

Are you worried at all that it's too nice for what you want to do?

No. What's funny is, like, you look like if you go over, we got some plates, and you'll find some rust. You'll find a little.

Okay, good.

You'll find a little rust here and there. But, yeah. Whether it's this or, you know, you could put us in a back alley somewhere, like, we're gonna conduct our business the same way. You know, we're gonna train. We're gonna do things how we do them.

Yeah.

The environment.

Yeah.

It's just a beautiful environment. We take a lot of pride in that. But, no, to work how we work, the way we work, the consistency we work with is that's gonna take place regardless of where we are.

Yeah.

Because I heard you fell in love with a shop vac that you went to the store, got a shop vac.

Yeah.

And now you just want to shop back everything, which I understand. I felt.

Shop vacs. Cool. It's the most versatile.

Most versatile tool out there. You know, every. Every time a guy that's been on my staff, like, they become a homeowner, that's my favorite gift to give.

I had a similar experience with a power washere. You get a power washer, then all of a sudden you want to power wash everything. It's so satisfying.

Yeah.

Like you said, there's, like, small feeling of accomplishment. You feel like you've done something.

Yeah.

Ready to move.

Yeah, it's. I mean, it's.

The shop vac is gritty.

It is.

Because you don't have to, like, you can. I mean, pretty much anything. You know, you can. You can suck up with shop. You could say, I love the versatility, and I love the grit factor of the shop.

The shop back. So. So coming to the NFL, is it. How does your job change when you, you know, you've spent all this time in college, you're taking 17 year old kids, building them into men. Now you got a bunch of men. Is it like, have you noticed that, hey, I got to approach this differently, or is it. This is my system, and we'll figure it out going forward? Yeah.

The biggest thing is, it's a lot more similar than it is different. There are some nuances that are different. The maturity of the. The population you work with is obviously different. But the desire guys, in coming into college as freshmen guys are in college, you know, they. High percentage of them, you know, they're hell bent on getting better.

Yeah.

And improving. Exact same here. You know, regardless, at least this roster, the guys that we have, regardless of how much money they make or not, where they fall in that category, they want to. They want to get better. And if you can help them do that, that's very important to them. They're very responsive to that. And the process, the system, the way we do things, our evaluation process, making sure. And I've told guys, this isn't, come in. Let's get a workout like we're gonna train. It's very different. And so training is very intentional. What we're gonna do, why we're gonna do it, and being able to build that rapport and that relationship with these guys is. Is of the utmost importance because they've been doing it. They have, a lot of them have different experiences, you know, doing different things, but if you relate and communicate to them and in the what I view as the appropriate way, they've been, they've been great.

Yeah. Yeah.

So, as somebody that's in charge of building strength, when you go into every off season, I assume that you. You tweak things, right. You always try to get better. You try to improve. How do you determine, like, what's going to change year over year in a strength program, when maybe you've been there for a while, maybe, you know, what works? Like, how do you figure out, okay, this is a missing piece that we need to add on and incorporate next season.

You know what the unique thing is every year? You don't know, necessarily, until these opportunities present themselves, what is going to be needed. Right. Because each year, there's different individuals that make up the team.

The.

The mentality and the makeup of the team, the culture, so to speak, the personality that the group has, it changes. And so if you're going to say, how are we going to improve the capability of the four rotator cuff muscles in the shoulder? There's a specific cuff sequence that we do. It's what we do. Where there's the most versatility is things that involve consistency, things that involve mentality, because there's certain things that certain individuals need and certain teams need that other teams didn't.

Yeah.

Right. And then it's. It's always figuring out, you know, what range of motion in tissue and joint, you know, flexibility, mobility, strength and power, movement traits. That stuff's relatively easy. It's the things. Those are all objective. We measure. We test. We measure, we test. Right. The guys all have that data, but it's these other factors that play a significant role. The mentality we talk about, grit, consistency, all of these things play a significant role, and those are the things that change, because when. When you have a group or a team that has that, you don't need as much of it. Right. Things to help with that.

Yeah.

And you have some teams that don't have that. Hey, coach, what do we got today? Stop asking me that. Why do you care what we have? Right.

Right.

It doesn't matter what we have. The only thing that matters is how you're gonna do what we have.

Right.

You know, so these type of. That's one big cue. They start asking, like, what's the schedule? What are we doing? They want to know. Oh, so you can prepare yourself for what's to come.

Right?

And then I'll tell them the. I'll just make up just some random sequence that they. Oh, okay, cool. Sounds good. And then it's not that. In fact, it's the exact opposite. And then they. You can completely desensitize. And that's one of my. That's one of the.

Cause that is a very natural thing. When you're like, I'm about to do something that sucks, I want to know how bad it's going to suck. And then you can prepare yourself. Like, all right, I got to go hard here. I got to go a little softer here. Got to go. That's smart that you keep them on their toes. You, in your introductory press conference here, I loved it. You said that we're not building strength, we're making them harder to break. How do you make someone harder to break? Could you make us harder to break?

100% yes, guaranteed.

Because we break easy.

Now, this is. This is the key. And here's an exact way when the guys, when we talk through it. Okay, so. And I referenced in my opening press conference neck training. So in my opinion, when your neck is stronger in flexion, when you press forward or an extension, when you press back and we side bend as well, when your neck is stronger and you strike something or get struck, in my opinion, you're going to be able to dissipate that force more effectively, which is going to decrease the likelihood of the brain coming in contact with the skull. Now, can it? And does it still happen? Yes, it does. But if I have the choice, oh, I'm going to go to great lengths to make sure we are as effective as we can be at getting your neck strong. Inflection and extension. Same thing with the four rotator cuff muscles in the shoulder. If you want a strong, stable shoulder, would you prefer all four were strong? Three of the four, two, one, or none of them. So right away. Okay, coach. Herb, how you going to make us harder to break? I'll take you in.

I'll literally show you a neck sequence, teach it to you, let you feel it, take you through a four part cuff sequence. You guys could do those. Those things easily, and you could do the multiple times a week, and then you could be in a multiple, multiple different situations where that could benefit you. Right. And for the guys, things happen. But when we look at what we're going to program and what we're going to administer to them. That's how I view making them and helping them become harder to break is making sure that certain areas of the body just are more equipped to tolerate stress better.

We need you to make a harder to break for podcasters. So it's stuff like, can you eat, you know, ten buffalo wings and then have a dairy Queen blizzard? Will your legs fall asleep when you're taking a shit like that? We need that type. Forget the neck.

How loud can you scream at your mom when she comes down the basement? Now recording.

Can you, can you watch football on six tvs at the same time?

Yeah.

Are we harder to break? That's what we need. You need a program.

You guys are out. You're outside of my world.

Yeah, yeah. I think you're on the road.

I love to see you in our.

World for what you would hate.

You would hate it.

Oh, my God, you would hate it.

So you got a good point about, about the neck, though. I feel like woodpeckers. What do they do all day? They slam their head against a tree. They got strong necks. They don't get CTE, they don't get concussions. Yeah, they got the stabilizer muscles right there. How long would a, would a neck sequence for guys like us, how long.

Would that take to take you through a. We call it a four part neck sequence, four way neck sequence. I mean, it'd probably take me two minutes, two and a half minutes to take you through it and find out.

How weak we are.

Well, I would know as soon as I put my hands.

We're going to do that after this. Yes, I would.

I would know. And then the key is I'm only interested. I'm not going to give you more than you can handle. There's no benefit to give you too much pressure. No good. Too little? No good. I'm going to get full range and you're going to work, right. I'm going to let you get the range that you need to get, but I'm going to make you earn it. And at the end, you'll go. I 100% guarantee you'll go. Oh, that's what he's talking about. You'll love it.

Okay, we're going to do that after this. Yeah. So the other thing, I love how you refer to it as cold water, but you love the ice, ice bath. How long do you stay in?

I just got asked this not too long ago, ten to 15 minutes.

And what temperature?

I don't care. It could be 39, 47, 52, you know, cold water. Yeah, whatever it is. Like, hey, hey, how cold is this? No, that's too cold or too. I'm gonna get in it. I'm gonna sit in there, you know, up to my neck for ten to 15 minutes, and the first four to five, I'm in there.

Just.

You say the three of us are in there, and I'd say, hey, just get to the six, seven minute mark, and everything starts to numb out, and then you got another, you know, however long we decide to stay in there. But then it's, you know, you're thawed out, but. Or, excuse me, you're numb, so. Yeah, and then I always say, then get out, put a hoodie and some sweats on, let your body just thaw out naturally, and then shower after.

I think you would have survived the Titanic.

That's a very long amount of time. Like, just sitting in there. Six minutes until you get numb, and then you won't feel it anymore. I got to try the cold tub situation, but I heard it increases a bunch of stuff in your body. It increases, like, all the good stuff, all the good brain. I don't even know what they call them, but it gives you, like, the serotonin, the dopamine, or whatever, but you do it, I'm guessing primarily for, like, inflammation stuff.

Yeah. And I said, you know, when I got asked about it last time, just joints. Makes my joints feel incredible.

Yeah.

And then if you ever want. I was talking to one of the players about it the other day, if you want to, and you guys may already know this, if you've ever just jumped in cold water, like, sitting in it, get in. Just sit in it for, you know, just a few seconds, and then get out. That's one thing you want to wake up. And it's all based on the sensory receptors, the amount of sensory receptors you have in your head. When you get in, you drop under, you come out, you. It's instant. You. You want an instant wake up?

Yeah. Yeah.

Are you allowed to eat in the cold tub?

You can eat, drink any.

Okay. Yeah.

Get it. Just get in and relax.

It's cold water.

Do it nice. Like soup, dinner. Hot soup in the cold tub. Warm you from the inside out.

One of my favorite pictures ever, and I texted them after I saw it. JJ and TJ, they had cut a hole, you know, and they're sitting in their pond.

Yeah.

In the ice, like, you know, just.

Hanging out, dude, first thing in the morning instead of a shower, just cold. Just cold water wakes you right up.

Cold, I don't know. Prefer it first thing in the morning. But if you. Yeah, you get in, if you took a, you could even start hot. And then just the last, say, 60 seconds or 20 seconds before you get out, turn that thing to cold and you'll, oh, it'll bring you to life real quick.

What time are you waking up these days?

It depends on the day. I love, this is another thing they said. What do you love to do? I love to sleep. I don't know if you've ever met someone that enjoys sleeping more than I do. However, for 25 years, I usually will get up between three and five.

That's insane. That's crazy.

What time do you go to sleep?

Usually 839, 930. Now, some nights, you know, if we're, you know, we're gonna, I'm gonna hang out, you know, with my wife and.

Boys, a little, clean some stuff, get the shop back out, go crazy.

But I've never, I've never enjoyed waking up early. I love to sleep, and when I get downtime, I'll sleep as long as I can. Yeah, but, but I'm, you know, it's up. Once I get rolling, then it's good. But I wake up when the day, you know, based on what the daily demands are.

Yeah.

If you wake up at three in the morning and you don't like to wake up early, that's like you're instilling grit every single day, 100%.

And I say, you know how there's people that put their feet on the ground in the morning and they're like, I'm ready to have a great day today? Yeah. That's not me.

Yeah. Yeah.

I wake up and it's like, how much coffee? No coffee. First thing I do is get in the shower. Cold, hot to start. And then I'll usually finish. Not always, but I'll finish with a, you know, ten to 15, 2nd little cold burst.

Yeah. Wake you up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What do you do between the hours of like 330 and six or 630 when, when everyone else gets to work?

Well, so it depends on what, what the day brings, you know, what time, if we have a staff meeting or what time we're going to train, usually because of classes in college there is, you have early morning training session or multiple, because of the class demands here it's different. But whatever, you know, whatever it may be that needs to be done, that's what we're doing.

Yeah. So when you're watching your team out there, do you get extra pride out of, like, watching them run the football. Like, I'm thinking, even.

Incredible.

Michigan versus Penn State this year.

Incredible.

One pass in the second half. Is that like. Is that just the pinnacle for you? Watching them just absolutely beat down another team physically, there's.

There's no better feeling. It's. It's incredible. And I would prefer, like, those type of scenarios. It's incredible. And I learned it at Wisconsin, you know, when I got there as a player and what we took pride in doing, and then it really became instilled in me to run and pound a rock. Yeah, it's. It's. It's amazing.

Take the will of the other team.

Yeah. Yeah, it was. And to do it, you know, like, we did it this year, especially that Penn State game. Yeah, it was. Or no better feeling.

Yeah. I mean, I feel like that's a match made in heaven with Harbaugh because he has famous times. I think there was a Stanford. Was it Stanford versus Oklahoma State in a bowl game? And he ran the same run play, like, 13 times in a row down the field. It's just like, you can't stop it. That has to be the bet. That's, like, the peak of just, like, man football.

Yeah. As I. As I see it, I love it.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's great. And there's nothing. There's nothing you can do to stop it. Has that ever happened against a team that you've been associated with, where it.

Was happening to be you?

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah. Wisconsin versus Michigan in 2019, maybe in camp Randall. That was a big one. Yes.

Yeah, that did not.

Ran the ball. Yeah.

Did not feel good.

Yeah.

Those. What I. What I take from those, it. It makes you feel certain. What it. What it does is it inspires you to. Yeah. To get back to work, you know? And that's why I say humble. It's. I've been on both sides of it, and I prefer. Fortunately, I've been on the other, on the good side a lot more than the bad side, but I know how both sides feel.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I noticed that one of your favorite pieces of workout equipment is just big tires. You buy a lot of big tires. What is it about tires, like, tire flipping, tire pulling a. What is about tires that make them such a great piece of workout equipment?

So it used to be the tire, and I had the most insane collection of tires. We named them. We had the most insane collection of tires. I mean, 15 different sizes and shapes. Now we have finisher flip sleds. The beauty of the finisher flip sled is the position that it puts the guys, their lower back in, and you don't have to grab it here. You can grab it in this way. And it stresses the bicep differently, so posturally, it puts them in a better position. But your ability to get triple extension and to develop strength and power, that is my new. Yeah, I don't even. You could. It's similar to a tire flip, but it's. I wouldn't even disrespect the flip sled by saying it's that. It's. It's its own beast, and it's one of, if not my favorite tools. That thing is insane. That's another thing, you guys, I'll teach you how to use the finish lip sled.

Yeah.

Incredible.

Yeah.

So how would you go about naming your tires? Kind of glossed over.

Yeah.

You know what? Just my staff, we would just look at the tire, and that looks like. And we would just throw names out there. You know what I mean? Bat around. No, and we. Yeah, we literally, we would just go down the line and really just banter back and forth about what we thought would be the best name.

Just dudes name and tires.

Yeah. What's it look like? And that's. That's what we will go with.

What about, what about having the plates? Everything perfect. What's that about? Where you said that in your introductory press conference, every plate is going to be exactly where it needs to be, nothing. Just, like, laying around. Is that just a mentality of, you got to take care of your surroundings?

It's just how. It's that. It's also just how we practice attention to detail. And it often. Sometimes people don't. It's not going to directly correlate and guarantee you're going to be successful, but what it is an effective tool to me, is practicing your attention to detail. You want your footwork to be a certain way. You want, when you strike something right. All these things in your. In your game, you know, you're. You're. There's so many different details that matter. It's just how we practice attention to detail. I. I just little. Little cues that I'll use one. I take tremendous pride in the space.

Yeah.

And I, you know, I like things neat and clean, so that just is what it is. But in terms of when you want how we train, when I teach you guys, when we do the neck or I teach you posturally, I don't want to.

You.

I'm not going to put your lower back in a bad position or allow you to do it in a way that's going to hurt you.

Right.

Right. So these details and how you execute all of these things are paramount because if technically, if you're not sound technically, in my opinion, then you increase the likelihood of injury in a training environment. So the detail and then how do we practice it? And that's just, that goes hand in hand with just respect we have for the space, too.

Yeah.

Do the little things.

Right.

The big things, take care of themselves, that sort of thing.

Along those lines.

Yeah.

So who is the. You've coached a lot of really strong players and they've become strong as you coached them. Who's the strongest guy you've ever worked with?

The key is strongest in what? Because, so if you said Turkish get up, if you, if you guys know what a Turkish get up is, okay. And I describe that to the guys as it's a movement that challenges and stimulates the body from the tip of the finger. When your arms extended from the tip of your finger to tip your toes.

It's holding a bar and being dumbbell.

Yeah.

And standing up with it over your head. Right.

Standing up with it and then coming down with it as well. Chris Jenkins, detachable at Michigan, did it with 170 pound dumbbell. And it was silky smooth. I mean, it was incredible. You can see when a guy's out of control and he's all. And you can see when he's rock solid. Aiden Hutchinson had, did it with, he had a bar and he had 45 pound plates on each side with no collar. Because if the wrist, it's doing it with a two and a half on each side is one thing. Okay. If the plate slides off, if it's not perfectly stable, if the plate slides off, big deal. They can still stabilize it. If a 45 pound plate slides off one end, the other side, it's going the wrong way quickly. So the demand. I don't like things that are high reward and high risk. My favorite things are things that are high reward, low to no risk. However, there's a sliding scale with every movement I choose for the guys. But when Hutch was getting ready to do that, he literally started with a bar, than a bar and two and a halfs on each side, fives.

And he worked his way up. I knew that if I captured that, you know, it would just give him, it's another feather in his cap of what a freak show he was and what a freak show he is. Chris Jenkins, that, you know, Mozzie Smith, he took, he took 325. I mean, he hit it for 20 reps. He went up the plow stairs, we got Kenneth Grant, 360 pound, the detachable that ran down that back from Penn State. He went up that. We had plow stairs at Michigan. He went up at 360 pounds. He went up those in like 279, 2.79 seconds. Lower body Travis Frederick played center for us at Wisconsin. Incredible. And you could go on down the line, you know, the things that you see guys do over the years, but those are. Those are some of them.

Did you. A couple Wisconsin questions. One, the TCU rose Bowl game. Was there any talk afterwards? We should have run John Claymore. That one hurt.

Yeah, that one hurt.

That one hurt. I was sitting right in the sideline where the two point conversion failed. Yeah, that was bad. John Clay was a beast in that second half.

Yeah, beast. You know what, I can't remember what the post game, you know, conversations were. Weren't. But I. Yeah, I mean, when we gave him the ball. Yeah, it usually worked out well for us.

Struck people. Then Russ did Spike the ball in time, you'd agree against Oregon?

In my opinion, yes.

Okay. And then, was there any talk when you left Wisconsin for Arkansas? Was that. Was there any conversation about, like, we're running out of Watt brothers and there's no more coming? We gotta. We gotta get out of here before.

You know, what I had. I had JJ, I had Derek, and, you know, over the years, you know, I see TJ here and there, unfortunately never got to coach him, but, yeah, then. Then he came after I had left and then. Yeah, you wish there was.

Just keep going. You thought for a while there was like, every year is going to be another Watt brother. We're good.

No doubt.

Yeah.

Talk to mom and dad, like, hey, maybe get back in the bedroom. Think about the future of the football team.

We just need all their kids to go to Wisconsin. That's all I care about.

Would be amazing.

Sign them up.

I got a real scientific question for you. What is the best lifting music?

Oh.

Oh, see, now this is where, when it comes to music, I usually. It's the vibe of the guys. Fortunately for me, we could put. There's. I mean, you could put anything on there. I love old school. Like, you throw the rocky four soundtrack on and I'm, you know, that's a. That's a. That's a go to. But it can be Metallica, it can be heavy metal, it can be any type of hip hop, whatever. Whatever the guys are feeling and they're gonna vibe to. That's. That's what it is some days. And it's all over the map. Fortunately, I love, I love it all, and I've heard it all. 25 years spent in a weight room. I've, you know, heard everything, and I, fortunately, enjoyed everything.

Yeah, you have a raw dog in the gym. You go in there, no music, no headphones.

Others days, no music. And I'm just looking for someone to be like, hey, coach R. Worst of music. And I go, you, oh, you need the music? Or, or we'll play. We've played Barney and there. Some guys are so focused on, like, the music, they stop worrying about the music and worry about, you know, those, those are some of the. Yeah, we'll use some of those. Some of those tools, too. From a mentality standpoint, there's no music.

And waiting for the first guy to ask you where the music.

Some days we'll take a horn and it just, and just repeatedly. And they're so like, what? Hey, you know, just stop. Stop focusing on. Get them to focus on the wrong thing.

Yeah.

And they will be. They do become desensitized, I promise you.

Yeah.

Here's where you're working with when you're talking to us in terms of grit level. There have been times I've gone to the gym, realize I forgot my headphones, and then I'm like, well, I can't work out today. And then I just leave.

Yeah, you'd be disgusted by it.

Yeah.

Yeah, you would be disgusted. That's. We have working on it, certain, certain facets, you know, doing our job. But in terms of, like, working out, we don't have a lot of grit, so we need that.

And it's not all created equal. I mean, yeah, to do your job is the most important. So whatever you have to do.

Right.

To get yourself where you need to be.

Yeah.

I'm not like, I'm in a working environment. My level of urgency is very high. However, when I leave, I tell the guys when I leave, I'm one of the most chill, laid back, you know what I mean? Just because. What do I need urgency for when we're, you know, just hanging out?

Yeah.

It's just, you have to time it appropriately. And like you said, when we're working, we have it, which. That's when you need it. And when you're not working, you know, there's. You can be selective in a workout. You don't have your headphones. You don't feel like training. Okay. That's a lot different than you. You don't feel like doing a show. You got to get your mind right. You're gonna get your mind right.

Yeah, we don't miss shows.

I broke my foot. I did a podcast that day. Big cat got hit by a dog.

My pinky did a podcast.

There you go.

No problem. Yeah, right through it.

That's grit.

Yeah.

That is grit.

People calling. Calling dog bite that day. They'd be like, can't do it.

Yeah.

Rabies shots.

We got that grit. All right, well, Coach Herbs has been awesome. I got one last question. Chevy question. Chevy.com. go check it out. Chevy Silverado. Best truck out there. Coach Harbaugh, who we love, we're good friends with. Do you train him? Does he ask you like, hey, Coach Herbs, I need a. I need a formula. You know, you need to give me everything. Are you. Are you actively training him still?

Coach Harbaugh does not. Coach Harbaugh just walks into the room, and he's ready to train. You know it. Coach, you ready to roll? He does not. Ever. Never. What are we doing today? How much. How he just goes and he attacks and he does everything that the guys. I mean, he sled drags. He flip sleds. He. He does it all. He reversed bear crawls. Like, we had a ramp at Michigan. He would reverse bear crawl. He. All of it eats it up.

I love that.

Eats it up.

I love that. And he does it all in his khakis, right?

He.

A lot of times, whatever.

He walks in the weight room. Whatever he shows up wearing, that's what he trains it.

Yeah.

Hey, I got to go and change. And. No, he just. Coach, you ready to roll? And he'll give you that nod, you know? Yep. And then he just.

Yeah.

He's the grittiest. Yeah. Of the gritty.

Yeah, yeah.

When you first interviewed with him, did you know during the interview, you're like, I can work with this guy. This is going really well.

You know what? When he decided that, you know, he. He brought me into Michigan to interview, and then I just. I hadn't met coach or been around them, so I did a little background, and then you just. Some of the stories and some of the things you hear, and then some of the people that had called me, you know, you go to Michigan, coach, and then they just. These things you hear. I came to realize quick, like, the type of mentality, you know, that. That he had. And that's. That's why, I mean, it was. It was the perfect fit.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's worked out well.

Yeah. I mean, I'm pumped just listening you talk. I kind of want to just move out here and have you train me. But it wouldn't go well. I'd break in a second, actually.

We might break you.

Yeah, you. Maybe if you spend one day with us, we would probably break your will. You'd be like, I got to get out of here. This is terrible.

These guys are too easy to break.

Yeah. They've been sitting on the couch for so long, but, yeah, that's. It's. It was awesome to have you on.

Yeah, I appreciate.

Best of luck this year, X Factor. And let's do this neck test. Let's do it.

Let's do it.

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Okay, great job, huey. Great job, huey. Let's get to Fyre fest of the week. Wrap up the show. Pft, your fyre fest of the week.

My fyre fest of the week. It's fantasy football related. We are in a fantasy league at CJ McCollums. He calls it the high Rollers league. And Jerry O'Connell manages our team every year. But in years past, I've kind of been the one that's on the group chat with the league, and then I text Jerry on the side, and I tell him what's happening this year. I decided it's time to have Jerry in the mix.

Oh, no.

So, yesterday, I added Jerry O'Connell to the fantasy football group chat. CJ McCollum, turtle from entourage, Julius Randall. There's a few others that I'm not naming right now, but it was like throwing a bomb into that group chat.

Yeah, I'd imagine.

So I brought him in there, added his number. First thing that happens. Jerry texts them. And I'm not going to be reading things out of the group. I'm not going to make a habit out of reading things out of the group chat. But for the intro, I think, I think this deserves a little bit of discussion. Jerry just comes out and says, hey, guys, Jerry O'Connell here. And the group chat turned green.

Oh, yeah. He was Android.

Out of, out of the twelve people that were in there, he was the first non iPhone user.

Oh, he ruined.

And then everybody started commenting how he turned the chat green and they were booing him. And it was a tough start. And then Jerry says, hey, everybody, jerry with the Android. I came in second two years ago when Demar went down. Prayers for Damar and also ukraine. And then nobody responded. And then Jerry like 2 hours later says, hey, fellas, just so you can get to know me, here's a link to my IMDb. And then he posted a link to his own IMDb in the group chat. And he said, go ahead, ask me anything. And nobody really replied. I think Turtle said, mister Bing bong, back to him.

Okay.

And then Jerry said, yeah, mister Bing bong. I don't know anyone on this feed, anyone from the mainstream media on here. Just want to know how raw I can get. And then, and then no one's responding to that. So I've really mixed up the. I've mixed things up. You know, jerry, he's going to add some excitement to the fancy group chat. He's coming in hot. I expect nothing less from Jerry, but we have to have him on to talk us through what a strategy is going to be. Last year it didn't work out so well.

Turning a group chat green is just unforgivable.

Yeah. So now I obviously I'm to blame for. For doing that.

Yeah. And Jerry, get a fucking iPhone, dude.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry to the group chat, but I think you'll enjoy having Jerry in there. Give him a chance.

Yeah. Jeez.

Now I'm pretty sure they started a second.

Oh, for sure.

Just minus Jerry.

Yeah. Jerry's going to be coming into Chicago last week of August. So we get our full fantasy preview. Very excited for that.

I hope that this just turns into Jerry just. Just talking to the guys and nobody ever responding.

Yeah. Yeah.

Honestly, like, this is mental warfare on our part. Yeah, we haven't one year's pass. Jerry's kind of. He's knocking him off balance right now.

He's gonna get them to a point where they're just gonna want to do it, like, do whatever, trade with Jerry. Just get him off your back.

It's kind of like negotiating against Marlins man.

Yeah, Marlins man has sent me some updates recently. How's his schedule? He's doing great. Well, I'll tell you.

How are his cats?

Let me tell you. Okay.

I feel like we haven't gotten a Marlins man cat update in a while.

Okay, let's see. All right, last text from Marlon man's. Well, I'm going tonight to Chicago for Sunday night baseball, I think. Last one with no football or hockey or basketball. That was when we were in great week, and then he just sent me eight cities in two days. Seattle, Newark, Albany, Saratoga Springs, Boston yesterday, Boston in New York to Milwaukee to Chicago today.

So when he says Newark in there, is he just talking about the airport?

I think so. And then yesterday, I did not open this. It was just Instagram reel of. Oh, I think it's just Manny's deli in Chicago.

That's cool.

Yeah. I mean, I know the place. Oh, no, it's Mensch's delicatessen. So it's just a bunch of sandwiches, which credit to him, because usually when you open up an Instagram reel, it could just be titties.

It usually is.

Yeah.

Especially with Jerry.

With Jerry or Marlins.

Yes.

We should put them on a chat together. And they're both Android.

Yes. Yes. I like that.

Wow.

Also Marlins man. Please, for. For the love of God, we need an update on your cats. I want to know how your giant cats are doing.

Yeah, let us know about those pussies. Okay. My fire fest. I have two. One. I hate that I'm gonna say this because, well, he's probably not gonna listen. I do miss Hank. Every time he's out as much as we give him shit. I do like that is. It's empty right now.

It's also, it comes from a place of jealousy that Hank has gotten to do so much cool stuff this summer.

Well, I don't know if I'd count this as he's ringing a bell. Yeah.

But he loves that fucking lighthouse.

Yeah. I just. I miss him. I miss him so I hope he doesn't hear this part that I genuinely miss him. Whenever he's out, I miss him.

I think he did not bad in Mount Rushmore today, actually.

Yeah.

I think movie quotes.

Yeah, I think he did. Not bad. Yeah. It's gonna be a fight. We have six left after today.

And congrats to Max. You clenched. Good job, Max. You didn't clinch first. Right. But you clinched not last. Yeah. And that's what's important.

Donnie's making meatballs right now. He keeps telling me to come eat them.

Okay, that's good. Fire festival wrap up soon. My other fire fest is, um. My wife and oldest were out of town for a couple days, and so I was in charge of the two youngest and I did okay. But I quickly realized that, like, I have these moments where I'm like, oh, I'm an adulthood. I'm clean. I'm not like I used to be one. My house just went right back to, like, my college apartment. There was just shit everywhere, boxes everywhere. Just not opening the. She came home and she was just like, did you check the mail? And I was like, ah, mail. That's the one with like, a huge stack. And then there was one night where I was doing dinner with my two youngest, and halfway through dinner, I realized that I just had them both eating off paper towels and I just. Not giving them plates that work. So, yeah, that was one of those moments. You're like, dude, what are you doing? Just get the fucking plates out.

But spin.

That's how I eat. I eat over the sink. I eat over the trash.

But spin zone. Some of the most memorable times of my childhood bonding with my dad were when my mom would leave town and then she'd come back and that, like, those 2 hours before she got. Yeah, we would all spend time just like, undoing all the damage we did to the house before she got back. And it was fun.

Yeah. And we ran, we ran, we ran the same play. We ran chicken nuggets, Mac and cheese. Yeah, chicken nuggets, Mac and cheese. Run it again. Yeah, it just basically was like, do it again, do it again. Okay, Hughie, Max needs these meatballs real fast.

No, Donnie just. Donnie just gave me a plate.

Oh, he did? Okay, one bite repair.

Are you holding the meatballs right now?

Yeah.

You didn't give me a fork, which.

Is just use your hand. Yeah, just dive in there. What do you think, Max?

Really good meatball. Really good.

Oh, that's so gross.

That's a nasty sound. It sounds juicy, though.

Smells great.

Yeah. Okay.

My fire fest. So I got a new place. It's walking distance from work. Everything is great. Love it. So the roommates are a little interesting.

Okay.

And so the one guy, very nice, showed me around the place. I think his name is Elio. Eli, something like that.

Eli or Elio Elliot. Yeah, it was like, call me.

Yeah.

Gee.

Yeah.

He's smaller than me, so.

Yeah, but that's funny. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, Biggie.

Yeah, I'll try it.

Okay.

And then he's a great guy. Awesome. The other guy didn't say a word when I walked by him in the kitchen. I had a little. I had to grab a Pepsi, zero sugar. And I went in there when I was gonna say hi to him, but then we looked at each other, and he didn't say anything.

So that's getting your kitchen apartment. Yeah.

So that scared me, and I was like, I'm not gonna say anything. So then I just got my stuff.

And I left to get kitchen and a living room.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he has a cat.

No. Oh, where'd that come from?

I don't know. I thought I saw something about a cat or a dog in your.

There's a chick who lives upstairs.

Okay.

Different apartment with a dog. But what happened was that our front doors are the same. So, like. Yeah, so. So she was coming down as I was coming in, so that confused me as I, like, as, like, you know, what's going on here, but that's a different apartment.

Her and who dog did you pet? The dog?

Did meet the dog? Nice dog. Nice dog. Yeah, very nice dog. No, I betted it. It came up to me. I bet.

You know what kind of dog it was.

A pit bull.

Oh, yeah. What was the name of the dog?

I don't.

I don't know.

I didn't get the name of the dog.

I don't know. I don't know the girl, because, well, if you find out the dog's name, then you just say hi to the dog every time she and the dog walk past.

Yeah, yeah.

Never acknowledge her.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. All right, so this other guy, you've got a roommate that you stood in a kitchen, your kitchen, together, and did not say a single word.

It was 3 seconds.

I mean, now you can never talk to him. No, that was the moment.

That was it.

Yeah. You can never see he was cooking.

And watching a show at the time.

What?

Okay.

I don't. I didn't stay around. It was. It looked like something that was more live than, like, an actual, like, setting. Like, it looked like a sporting event live, but it wasn't. Like it felt. Adam a gainey revive. It didn't have a tv show.

But you watched sports.

No, I.

Did it look like sports?

It didn't look like american sports.

Got it.

That's what. That's what threw me off.

So I just assumed there is this person american?

No.

Okay, so that's why they don't speak English.

So I heard him on the phone, and they speak. Fluent in.

Okay, okay.

It's a fluent as.

Could be smart to say they get.

But if you walk past and you don't know, like, if they're watching something live, you don't stop, you don't talk to them. That's kind of a good move. Maybe he didn't want to be interrupted.

Yeah. So I think I played it right, but I also don't know if I did.

You got to wait till he wears some sort of sports merchandise, like a hat of a team or a shirt of a team, and then you strike up the conversation.

Also, just to clarify, you did not play it right, but playing it right from here on out means you can never speak to them.

What about Eli?

Eli, you can, okay? But you. If you miss the first moment to talk to a roommate in a kitchen, it's over.

That's fair. That's what it felt like.

That's. It's over. That moment is gone.

He missed the opportunity to talk to you, though.

Yeah.

About it that way.

Look at it. Yeah, that's. That's what I like to see it as.

He's probably on a podcast right now saying I think I screwed things up with my new roommate, Huey.

Yeah.

Could you imagine?

Yeah.

But I also have my own bathroom.

So I don't have to like you, fancy boy. Yeah.

Eli told me I had the nicest room.

Oh. So he says. That sounds like a real straight shooter.

So. Yeah, I mean, so I don't have to. I really don't have to even, like, try to interact. But yesterday, I was doing laundry, and twice, we're like, the second I closed my door in. Of my room, I heard a door of the other room open. Oh, he just does it.

No, he doesn't want anything to do with you.

Yeah, it's probably for the best. You don't know. Yeah, it sounds like he's. He's sending some pretty strong signals. Yeah, like, hey, I'm doing my own thing over here that I don't want any part of this that happens in work.

Like, when we got. When we got bigger and bigger as a company. Like, if you see someone and it's like, the first time you see them and you don't talk to them, like, that's it.

Yeah.

You know, like, you're. It's just. That's it. Yeah, until someone maybe formally introduces you, but you just missed that moment.

Or if you see, you don't want.

To be the guy who's like, hey, do you live here?

Yeah.

Like, dude, you know I live here. You saw me yesterday. You didn't say anything.

If you see somebody at work and you say, hey, are you new here? And they're like, no, I've been here.

Right.

Months.

Yeah, you can't. You can't risk that.

Yeah.

All right. Good show, boys. Let's do some numbers. 820, 56, 74.

Did you want me to say 20 today?

I wanted you to say whatever you wanted to say. Can you save me one of those meatballs?

Yep.

399.

Poke, 21.

Is that 99?

Yup.

Oh.

You be champion. The guy just does it. That's all he does. Matt.

That's five.

That's five. Oh, my God. Pug, you are the ch. Max, have you thought about maybe stealing pugs number?

Pug did offer it up last night.

Oh, you offered it to me. To Max. Several times. Oh, no.

That should be offered to PFT, since he's never gotten the number.

You've never gotten a lottery?

Never gotten the number. I've gotten the number. PfT hasn't gotten any.

We're talking the lottery ball.

I can't.

Lottery ball.

Pug has my headphones.

Pug, you offered that to him last night. Any danger find.

It's been offered several times.

Puget offered me offer the PFt. I don't want.

Offer to offer it to him. Pft.

Would you like 99, Pug?

You're goddamn right I would. Yeah, you're fucking right. I want 99.

Pugs just gonna win with another number.

Yeah, he will.

Pug, do you want 20? I might just switch to 98. Okay.

Yeah, you're goddamn right. I want 99. 90. Nine's hot.

Hell, yes.

Actually, pug might just be hot.

Let's do one more. Three. This counts.

99. Pug.

56, 72.

98.

Pug.

21.

He's gonna get it again.

Seven. Damn. That was eight. That would have been brutal.

Oh, God.

All right.

Love you guys.