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Buys are dead.

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Buys are dead.

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Buys are dead.

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Rest first rust has been settled.

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The SEC is dead. We have 3 big 10 teams and a big 12 team in the in the semifinals. Yeah.

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Texas represent the big 12. Yep. What a big 12 matchup that was.

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Notre Dame is is is a honorary big 10 team. But, yeah, we had, listen. This was the college football. I I know that not, every game, the Boise State Penn State game wasn't super thrilling, but it was actually a pretty close game.

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It started out bad.

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Yeah. It was in doubt for 50 minutes, and the Rose Bowl was a shit kicking by Ohio State, but, man, Texas Arizona State was an instant classic. Notre Dame Georgia had some good drama. College football might be back. Should we talk about each game?

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Yep. Boise, Penn State. Let's start there. Max, Penn State wins. It got a little Andy Kotelniki, some of his play calling was very frustrating if you're a Penn State fan because it did feel like Penn State could just run the ball down their throat if they wanted to, and they're like, nah.

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Let's let's bomb this on 3rd and short.

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At the start of the game, it just seemed like they could big boy him all day.

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Yeah.

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And then there was some little boy ass play for Max.

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Yes. Some little boy ass play.

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Lot of drop lot of drop passes. Caitron Allen could have run he could have run for a like, a 190 yards in that game if they really tried to. And that's what most Penn State fans, I think, were wanting for most of the game, but whatever. It it it got a little like, it never got, like, nervous nervous, but it got, like, why aren't we beating the fuck out

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of this team nervous? Right. It never

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it never got to the point where

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it became a big game.

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Correct.

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No. Yeah. Penn State is in the semifinals

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big game because, you know, and emotions in the game, I'm getting mad, and I'm like

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That happens to you.

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Yeah. Between the lines, things happen. Shout out Tyler Crowe, low man trophy winner, got a touchdown.

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Yes.

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All the haters out there that said that he wasn't worthy, suck my dick. He got

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a touchdown in the, college football quarterfinals. And as for Boise, I mean, this is the part of, like it was very clear that, they had to play a perfect game to win that game just by, like, the the matchups in the trenches. I actually thought, like, I know there was a lot of memes going around about Ash and Genti. I thought he was, like there was a bunch of times where he got the ball, and it would have been a loss or a yard, and he found a way to get, like, 4 or 5 yards. And, like, I didn't walk away from that game being, like, Ash and Genti got like, they were keying in on him basically saying, you can't beat us with the pass.

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And he still had a couple runs where I was like, holy shit. How did they not bring him down?

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Yeah. He was shaking off a lot of tackles, but nothing's they they bottled him up a little bit. They didn't let him because he he's had halves like that before where he's not really breaking anything, but then he gets his, like, 70 yard touchdown.

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Right. And I also I mean, the end of the game was that was a little that was a little sad by Boise State where they were just trying to get him the record instead I mean, I know they were down. What were they down? 17? And I know they were like, there's probably no chance, but running on first down with 2 and a half minutes left Yeah.

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It didn't make sense.

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Was a little sad. It was a little sad. They had no urgency to try to cover the spread for the people.

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And then so that game happens, then we wake up on New Year's Day, and we we tune in to Arizona State, Texas. And we thought that just all the college football games were gonna be bad. Yes. In in the first half, it just seemed like there was no chance. Was the first 2 offensive plays that Texas had went for 6?

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Well, no. They got a they had a punt return. Yeah. So they had they had the deep they had, like, a their their first play from Scrooge is like a 50 yard pass then a touchdown, and then they had the punt return. It was 14 0 or 143 almost instantly.

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And we're like, fuck. This sucks. And then Arizona State, Kenny d, and the boys. I mean, that was Scatterbo was like it he was puking. He was looked like he got bottled up in the first half, and then he just did everything.

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That's when he woke up was after

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he cuked.

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He caught a 60 yard pass. He threw a pat a touch a touchdown pass. He ran for a 140. He had 2 touchdowns.

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The sideline reporter said that he was he was throwing up profusely on the sidelines. Yeah. And then the announcers are speculating, well, maybe it's because he hasn't had play into the Q4 a lot recently. Some other people were speculating, well, it is New Year's Day. Mhmm.

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Who

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knows what happened last night? Whatever happened, he got better after he puked, which was great. And on that touchdown pass that he threw, did you know that that's not the pass that he was supposed to throw?

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I can I can believe it?

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It was designed to be a pass back to the quarterback, and he said, fuck it. I'm going deep.

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I mean, he the Arizona State the the way that came started, I've never seen worse body language from a team. Like, you had guys yelling at each other, pushing each other, and then they just kept on crawling back. And, like, if you actually look at the stats of that game, Arizona State played better than Texas. Like, they had more yards. They were they kept on getting to the red zone.

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Texas just I don't know what it is, but their their defense is so good, and their offense just goes into these dry spells that are like, what what's happening right now?

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They got lucky that they ended up winning. So there was the the, targeting call that confused America. Yeah. Because nobody knows what targeting is.

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No 1 knows. That well, no. That was targeting.

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I feel like I feel like the rule was created so that the refs have an opportunity to to impact a game 1 way or the other.

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Yeah.

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Where, like, if they if you wanted to be targeting, you can say, okay. That's targeting. This guy's ejected. Yeah. If you don't want it to be, then you can say no, and everyone's like, well, okay.

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I guess I don't know what targeting is.

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Yeah.

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Because it's so weird. But the way that it's written, he was defenseless. I think he did hit lead with the crowd of his helmet. Yeah.

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It was

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like it was above the face mask.

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They ended up being face mask to face mask, but it looked like he led with the crowd.

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Yeah. But ball don't lie. They doink a kick at the end. Shout out to the Arizona State ball girls that walked right in front of the kicker.

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Well and also Sark with 1 of the weirdest decisions ever to be like, hey. My kicker who just missed a kick, has the biggest kick of his life. I'm gonna make him stare into my eyes while I, like, hold his head and tell him everything's gonna be okay. That felt like it may might have rattled.

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So I think that the, the reinforcement was so positive beforehand that the kicker didn't have any fear in him. You have to be a little bit afraid

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of your coach.

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Right? Like, kickers were mental midgets. Can we say that? Yeah. Mental?

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You you need to have the, oh, shit. I'm probably gonna get killed by my head coach if it'll make this kick.

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Yeah. And Sark was just, like, doing the, I love you, man. Whatever you do here, we're proud of you. You're Bert Auburn. His face pissed me off.

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Bert's? Yeah. And his hair.

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His hair? Yeah. I got a lot of people saying the hair is too much for kick. I don't disagree.

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Yeah. You

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don't wanna stand out at all if you're

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No. You gotta be just you you gotta not have any idea, like, point to the sideline.

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Random creative face, skinny white guy. Yeah. That's what we're looking for.

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And, but Arizona State, yeah, like, I wish they had won that game. They bawled their ass off.

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Texas got bailed out with that that touchdown pass in overtime. Yeah. That was a Greg Williams special. Yeah. The 0 blitz.

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Was it 4th 5th 4th and 13, I think? Yeah. Don't really understand the play call. Guess they're just like, let's go win it. Let's be aggressive.

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And I, like, I still think Texas is good. I still like, I think they'll their defense can can give Ohio State some problems, but I just wanted to I wanted Arizona State to win that game so bad.

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They gotta use Isaiah Bond a little bit. Yeah. I know he's coming back from something, but they gotta use him a little bit more. Scataboo, this guy. I fucking love this guy.

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Yeah. I love I love him so much. Sean Payton probably will use a 1st round pick on him because he's like, that that is my new Taysom Hill. Yeah. That's everything I need out of the guy.

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He was so fun to watch. He was like, Mike Allstadt mixed with Jon Coon, running people over in the backfield. So fun.

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He's so fun. He's he's an electric college football player. He's gonna be I mean, this is a loaded draft for running backs. And then we had the Rose Bowl where Ohio State basically played a perfect half of football. That first half was 1 of the best halves of football I've ever watched by 1 team.

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Jeremiah Smith is I don't know what Oregon, what they spent their bye week doing, but it wasn't scheming up a way to stop Jeremiah Smith.

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Listen. We're gonna make him beat us.

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Yeah. And he beat him. Okay. And he beat him.

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He beat him he beat him by the time most of America started watching the game.

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Yeah. And then Dan Lanning, we had a sad punt from Dan Lanning. It was just that was that was Ohio State is just a team on a mission right now. I don't know what else you can say. Like, they are as long as they don't have to play Michigan Mhmm.

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They are the best team in the country. Do you think Michigan is

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rooting for Ohio State at this point?

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I think if you're a Michigan fan and Michigan fans could chime in and let us know. I think what Michigan fans are rooting for is for Ohio State to get to the national championship and then lose in tragic fashion. Yeah. I think that's probably what they're rooting for. Because they don't because, like, I know the whole if they win, we could say, well, we beat them.

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This still is a national title. Mhmm. So I think they want them to get as far as possible and then choke at the end.

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If you okay. So

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Like Ryan Day choke.

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If you're a Michigan fan drawn this up, you want them to get to the national championship and then maybe lose to Penn State?

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Yeah. Yeah. Or Notre Dame even. Like, yeah. Just be like No.

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And you have Michigan fans would would rather Penn State win the national championship Notre

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Dame. Probably Yeah. No. That's that's a toss-up.

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I don't know because I I know Notre Dame's not in the big they're not in the big.

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They are. They're the rivalry from Yeah. But they I mean, Michigan and Penn State play almost every year. Notre Dame and Michigan haven't they they stopped the rivalry. They haven't played in years.

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I think they'd rather see Penn State.

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I I think they I don't know if they would no. Because Michigan could also be like, oh, Penn State, the big 10 is the best is the best conference. You know, if Penn State wins at all, they're the best conference.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'm saying that they'd rather be the state Yeah. Maybe. Beat OSU.

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I I mean, it's I I think it's you could ask a Michigan fan. They'd give you a different answer. Yeah. They don't like Notre Dame, but I I also think they don't like Penn State. But what's gonna say, Max.

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Should we ask Jack?

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Yeah. Yeah. Ask Jack. What's Jack? Yeah.

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Get Jack in here.

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Resident resident Michigan fan?

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Yeah. So, yeah, it's, he's

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He's so young, though. I feel like he doesn't even remember Notre Dame in Michigan playing.

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But it's an added bonus every time Ohio State wins an important game that Michigan gets to be like, yeah, ever since we beat him.

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Yeah. Yeah. Also, you to your side, it might be better for James Franklin to, like, beat Ryan Day. So it's like Ryan Day's brain is fully broken.

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Then Ryan Day becomes James Franklin. Yeah.

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Jack, our resident Michigan fan, 1 of our behind the scenes guys does a great job. Jack, as a Michigan fan, if it was what are you rooting for for Ohio State in the in this in this college football playoff?

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So I'm different. I don't want them to win.

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Right. Well, I what I said was I think most Michigan fans are rooting for them to get to the title and then lose in tragic fashion.

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Yeah. That would be hilarious.

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Yeah. And then if you were playing Penn State, would you rather Penn State or Notre Dame beat them?

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Penn State for sure.

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You'd rather Penn State beat them?

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Yeah. Okay.

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Because that would that would just be even funnier. Yeah.

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Yeah. It's a funny factor, not as a hate Notre Dame factor.

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I mean, I also kind of hate Notre Dame as well.

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You guys are kind of the same Michigan and Notre Dame.

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Don't tell them that. Yeah. How? Well, you are

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the same. Yeah. You just refuse to fan base.

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It's like Ravens and Steelers. They hate each other so much, and they refuse to admit that they're the same team.

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They love to talk about football from the 19 forties.

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I mean, Notre Dame is, like, the biggest fraud of all time.

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Okay. Well, I mean, until last year, that was literally you.

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Who have you guys beaten in national championships besides the most recent 1?

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Yeah. You guys are the same. That's fine.

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It it's okay. I mean Yeah. Yeah. Congratulate. You are a national champion right now.

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Thank you.

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Not taking that away from you.

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Thank you.

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We support Connor Stallions.

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Okay. So you want Penn State to beat Ohio State in a tragic fashion for Ohio State. You just want Ryan Day to I was saying the best outcome for Michigan is Ryan Day to have, like, a full blown Ryan Day meltdown in the national championship.

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Yeah. That would be that would be the greatest thing ever.

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Yeah. If he if he loses the Natty to a guy who is known for losing big games, that would be that would be the best option.

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Right? Yeah.

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That would be hilarious.

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Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Jack. Yep. And then, yeah, I mean, the the Georgia Notre Dame game, Notre Dame just outmuscled Georgia, which was kinda shocking, although Georgia, obviously, on their backup quarterback who I wouldn't say pocket presence is his is his strength.

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It's not also blocking for their backup quarterback.

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He

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wasn't his strength.

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Yep. The whole the whole left side felt, like it was it was a problem. But we also had the emergence of antihero for Georgia. What's his name? Parker Jones?

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I believe it was Parker Jones. Parker Jones who Number 39.

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Who got it. Who ended it ended up not mattering because they lost by 13 or yeah.

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And, also, they made the field goal all night.

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Did make the field goal, but you they would've had 1st and goal. Parker Jones, walk on cornerback, got in the way of a ref, 15 yard penalty. Memes, you're a Georgia fan.

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Yep.

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What were you thinking about Parker Jones at that point?

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We were watching with the sound off, but it was just like, wait. What happened? I thought we were inside the 10, and then

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it was just Parker Jones. Parker Jones everywhere. Marcelinter. Yeah. No.

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I mean, Parker Jones is gonna be an awesome pharmaceutical sales, rep in, like, 3 years.

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Maybe not anymore.

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I don't know. I mean, it's yeah. The his that sucks so bad for him because, like, I was joking that, you know, even if you're a walk on or you're you know, you never play a snap for Georgia to live the rest of your life being like, yeah. I was on Kirby Smart's Georgia teams. And he would have been able to say that.

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And then someone would be like, hey. What's your name? Like, oh, I'm Parker Parker Jones. They're like, wait a second. I remember that.

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I thought it was mean that they showed him at the end of the game.

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They showed him so much.

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Everyone had kinda moved on from him a little bit and then to put him back on the screen on the national broadcast. That felt that was targeting.

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That was targeting. That was absolutely targeting. So, Penn State, Notre Dame. Max, how are you feeling?

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I feel good. Notre Dame I feel like Penn State and Notre Dame are have kind of looked and Notre Dame just had a very impressive win. I I don't know. Their offense their offense is so blunt. Their defense is elite.

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Their defense is shown to be elite. If Drew Aller can have a good game, get hot. Kolenicki but, like, this is a sort of game where we're not gonna be able to, like, shove it down their throats.

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Right.

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So Kolenicki will have to kind of do a little bit of the I think he's gonna have to do some fuck shit.

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Yeah. He's gonna have to do some fuck shit. He's gonna have to get creative.

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Yes. He's gonna have to get creative in this game. And if he does, I like Penn State's chances. I like that they're dogs. I like that they're dogs in this game.

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As of right now?

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As of right now, they're 1 and a half point dogs.

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Open as dogs.

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Open as dogs. It'll be a good game. It'll be a good game. I think I I think I like the under. I'll say that.

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Yeah. Okay.

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I I I hope Abdul Carter play I mean, Abdul Carter put out, like, the Darth Vader video saying that he was loading up to

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What happened with him? His shoulder?

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It it was insane that they just weren't talking about it. Yeah. They just weren't

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He just went off, and they and they showed him adjusting in the pads, and then it was just like that was it.

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He's the best player on the field. He is gonna be a top 5 pick in the draft, and and he just didn't play for 3 quarters of the game. And and they just didn't say a thing, and nobody knew what was going on.

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Yeah. Mhmm.

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So if Abdul Carter plays, I I like her change.

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So tell me about this Darth Vader video.

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So I didn't know anything about this video. I had some super Connor Griffin resident. Star Wars nerd. Star Wars nerd and Penn State super, super, super fan. Explain to me.

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Up his fly and then came to where I told you.

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Scene from Star Wars where Darth Vader goes into this healing chamber.

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Okay.

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And then he gets healthy super fast and, like, gets super jacked and powerful.

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There's a lot. And then Darth

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Vader ends up winning in the end. Right?

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I don't I'm not a Star

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Wars guy.

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Okay. That's probably an important part to

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look up. I'm not. I Oh, you're not a Star Wars guy.

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Hank? Does he win? Yeah.

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I mean, he made up his relationship with his son. Oh. 0, that so John is a

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good father. Okay. Uh-huh. And his hand was fine. Yeah.

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No. No? No.

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No. No. Well, what happened?

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It got cut off by a lightsaber.

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Oh, no.

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A light a lightsaber?

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Saber. Oh, no. So he's gonna Abdul Carter's gonna play a whole game without a hand?

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Yeah. That's what it sounds like. Where does baby Yoda factor into this?

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He doesn't. Wait. Did he even post a video? It looks like a picture. It's just a picture?

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So he he posted a picture of Darth Vader right before Darth Vader died.

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I I'm not a Star Wars guy.

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So you you be if do you have to be a Star Wars guy to know the difference between a picture and a video?

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It's the same premise. It's a meme. Sometimes memes are pictures. Sometimes memes are videos. You know?

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Whatever. Tomato time.

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So he's gonna do something that is unregulated that will heal him extra fast, and then he's going to die.

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I don't know Star Wars.

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Okay. Alright. I'm sure. Videos are big. Yeah.

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I'm just trying to figure

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something out. Is that he's that it it seems like he he's getting super healthy and super jacked.

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Super jacked, super healthy. Hank? That's sick. Yep.

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Alright. Good. That's my analysis.

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Max, if it makes a difference to you, I will be rooting for you.

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Love that.

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I think I'm gonna bet on Penn State. I think I'm betting on Penn State and Ohio State.

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I'm gonna watch a good stream.

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I I I Penn State and Ohio State is what I want just because whichever whichever coach loses is just very funny. Yeah. That is a very funny like, you could just go whichever coach you want. It No. I mean, James Franklin losing to Ohio State when he gets a cake walks, you know, to to the semifinal.

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But if you beat Notre Dame to go to go to the national championship, that's a big win.

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I I agree. But then if you lose to Ohio State yet again, it's like you can't he can't beat Ohio State. But you but

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Penn State fans won't be mad,

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and that's in that scenario. Yeah. Yeah.

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You will. If you get to a nanny and you lose

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If you literally can't if it just keeps proving that you can't there he would be, I think, 1 in 11 maybe against Ohio State.

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Yeah. To any

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He won the 1.

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If he lost anybody else, it wouldn't be as bad.

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Yeah. I don't know. I like, this but this is the game. Like, they they got it.

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This is the big game.

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This is the big game. This is the big game.

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This is

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the big game. This is the big game. And then everything else is great if you don't care.

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Yeah. I think it would it would be funnier if Ryan Day lost than it would be if he's Franklin lost.

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Ryan Day losing in the national championship and it getting so far in this season that they can't fire him would be very funny. But Ohio State also looks insanely like, they look their 2 wins now against Tennessee and Oregon. Yeah.

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No. They look unstoppable.

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Absolutely, like, lights out. Just the best team. They they have, by far, if you reseated

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right now, they are the they are the 1 seed by far. And you can just imagine them winning and Jack Sawyer getting on stage and crying and screaming for about 7 minutes nonstop. Right? Like, that feels like something that could very easily happen.

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Yeah. And then, hopefully, a reporter would be like, congrats on the Natty, but what do you think about the flag that Michigan put in the 50 yard line? Fuck. They're fucking took a flag.

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Yeah. That that counts as a mission Michigan national championship since they own that stadium. Right?

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Yeah. Should should Jeremiah Smith declare for the draft? Like, I I A year and a quarter from last year. Crazy. He's so goddamn good.

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I it's it's bullshit. You should do the Maurice Claret being like, I'm ready now.

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He is ready right now.

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Yeah.

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And they showed the graphic the first half of comparing him to, like it was Tio and Julio Jones. Right? I was like, come on. Let's let's pump the brakes a little bit, and then you watch him play, and you're like, yeah. I I

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can see it. And he's got

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another 2 years. It's just the most humble player he's

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ever seen. Ever. Yeah. Him and Ryan Williams. There's 2 2 dudes that we're gonna get to watch in college football for the next 2 years.

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Yeah. Just insane. Okay. Let's do NFL week 18.

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Also, I love Caleb Downs. Yeah. That guy's awesome.

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Yeah. I mean, Ohio State's just really fucking good at football, and they just as long as they don't have to play Michigan. Mhmm. Because even their other loss to Oregon, you can like, losing by 1 or 2, whatever it was On the road. Oregon on the road is not like a crazy loss.

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Yeah.

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It's just losing at home as a 18 point favorite. That that is a great loss.

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They wanted to become Michigan. To become Michigan. Yeah. Like I said, like, if they'd if they had played their game, they should have beaten the shit

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out of Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay.

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We had Pro Bowl, by the way. Mhmm. Congrats. PFT, Jaden Daniels, Pro Bowler.

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Pepsi Rookie of the Week as well.

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Pepsi Rookie of the Week. Did you have any Pro Bowlers? Yeah. I had 1. Jason Johnson.

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Yep. That's pretty sick. Max, you guys had a lot. Ravens had a shitload. Meebs, do you have a pro bowler?

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Nope. None? We got we got some reserves.

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0? 0. And Sam Darnold made his 1st Pro Bowl, which, by the way, solidifies 2018 draft was insane. It's the year for everyone in the 2018. I mean, there was already some, like, incredible players, but the renaissance of some of these guys just a reminder, the 2018 draft, Baker Mayfield went 1, Saquon Barkley, 2, Sam Darnold, 3.

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So 1, 2, 3, pretty much had career years. 4 was Denzel Ward. He's been to 4 Pro Bowls. Bradley Chubb, Quintin Nelson, Josh Allen, Roquan Smith, Mike McGlinchey, and then Josh Rose. But, really, we should just make Lamar 32.

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He was 10.

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Yeah. No. It's it was a good draft.

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Really good draft. So 8 out of the 10 first rounders or or first picks in the 20 or sorry. The first 8 picks in the 2018 draft had been to at least 1 Pro Bowl.

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Now I'm interested to see who actually ends up playing in the Pro Bowl because that's when things get fucked up when you start getting a bunch of guys that get put on the team at the very last minute. What reserves do you have, memes?

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I believe Quentin Williams, Garrett Wilson, Xavier Gibson, Irv Charles.

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Oh, shit. Dude, that's that's a lot of reserves. Reserves.

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But there's, like, 2nd reserve, 3rd reserve. There's tiers.

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Okay. Yeah. But that sounds like a lot of reserves.

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Yeah. We we lead the

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league in almost Pro Bowls.

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Oh, nice.

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So, Patrick Mahomes, is he in the Pro Bowl? He is not. That's weird

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Yeah.

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Because he's the best quarterback in football.

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I don't think that Patrick Mahomes cares at all. He I

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think he this is probably a good thing for him.

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Yeah. I mean, he he's gonna probably play in the Super Bowl.

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He was not gonna go to the Pro Bowl anyways. So But but now you give the Chiefs a tiny bit of ammunition to be like, look. Patrick Mahomes wasn't a Pro Bowler. Yeah. That's that's the opposite of what the rest of the NFL needs out of him.

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It's also you know, you've, fully made it when if you try to, like, say, Patrick Mahomes is in the Pro Bowl. You're like, well, that's okay, dude.

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Yeah. I don't care.

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He wins Super Bowls.

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Yeah. It really doesn't matter. Cares.

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Okay. Let's do games. By the way, this week so so at the end of, the preview, we'll do our picks. Memes and Hank are safe, so they're not gonna pick. It's between me, PFT, and Max.

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And the deal is PFT and I both have 18, I believe, and Max has 16. So under normal, Max would have to go 2 and o, and we'd both have to go 0 and 2 for a tie. And we're not gonna do a tiebreaker this year if we tie if anyone ties, they have to go to the bachelor party together. So if, like, Max and I tie, we're both going, which I think would be better for content. And PFT and I have graciously given Max an extra pick.

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So he's gonna get 3 picks, and we get 2 picks.

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He's getting, yeah, the easiest road to the championship.

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So that means that, any combination of Max going if Max goes 3 and o and PFT and I both go 1 and 1, all 3 of us are gonna go. Mhmm. If if either PFT and I go o and 2 and Max goes 2 and 1, then we would go. So, Max, you gotta at least win 2. You gotta at least get 2 out of 3 and hope for us to suck.

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Yeah. Because if either of us goes 2 and o, we're we're automatically safe.

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Have we figured out what bachelor party we're gonna go on?

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No. That's a whole other process. That's a whole other process.

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Thing. I have so many weddings this summer.

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Oh, well, sounds like you're gonna have another bachelor. Unless you go 3 and o and and 1 of us goes o and 2, then you're safe. Would that that would be a hell of a I mean, Davis Mills, that year still.

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Davis Mills, so many hot dogs.

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So many hot dogs. Okay. Let's get to the games. 1st game, Saturday, which I'll just say it. I don't understand why the NFL did the scheduling this way.

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The chi the the steelers and the, Bengals should have played 1st because Browns at Ravens, Ravens minus 20, over under is 41. If the Ravens win this game, they win the AFC North, and the Steelers have nothing to play for.

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So, they have absolutely they don't have seating to play for in that case. I thought they did.

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I guess they would with the chargers, but Because

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it would be a pretty big seating deal then. Right? Because Yeah.

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I mean, you you would much rather You would yeah.

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Yeah. Avoid the Ravens.

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You would wanna avoid the Ravens, but still, like, the AFC North will be decided. I I it didn't But

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that no. To to me, that makes a massive difference.

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But it makes so much more sense for them to just go first.

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I yeah. It probably does.

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Why wouldn't they have just gone first?

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It probably does. I think you probably wanted to get Joe Burrow and the seal. It's a it's a much, like, more impactful game in terms of driving viewers, so you want that in prime time.

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Right. But it would have been, like, them going first being, like, if they win, they get to they can win the AFC North.

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I think they want that in the afternoon slate because I I do think the Steelers have a lot to play

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for. Yeah. No. They definitely do, man. Playing against the playoff game is

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a lot. Home playoff game is a lot, but also avoiding the Ravens in the 1st round is a lot. And then I at least we're getting the Bengals on Saturday so that we can see the outcome of their game before we see Yeah. I like that part. Has a big swing.

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Alright. So so the Ravens so it's gonna be Bayley Zappi, I believe, for the Browns, but also maybe still DTR, which is so sad.

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Yeah. We we've got a lot of those this weekend. A lot of, like, really, really depressing 2 headed monster

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rap games.

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Yeah. So we're might might get a combination of both DTR and Baylee Zappy. Baylee Zappy has been there for how long?

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The year? The whole year? Maybe not the whole year.

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I don't think so. Half the year? Jamis, emergency quarterback.

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Oh, yeah. It can't be the whole year, because he was probably unless he was on

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practice squad. Deshaun went down, and then they signed him.

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Then they signed Bailey Zappi. Got it. Yeah. He was on the Chiefs before that on the Chiefs practice squad. Damn.

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Bailey Zappi was so close to a ring.

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That would've been tough. Yeah. So, 1 thing to watch for in this game, Lamar Jackson might break the single season quarterback rating record.

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Correct.

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So he's right behind Aaron Rodgers from 2,011. Yep. So maybe maybe Lamar just plays a half, gets out of there.

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Yeah. And we also points is a lot. Yeah. Do yeah. We have, it is a lot, but the Browns are really, really bad.

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Miles Garrett, I do think will be playing hard. The he he has never as good as Miles Garrett is, he's never led the NFL in sacks, and a Cleveland Brown has never done that. So He also said tied right now for with Trey Hendrickson.

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He said they wanna play spoiler.

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They wanna play spoiler, which yeah. Okay. Yeah. Play spoiler.

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You know, it'd be nice if they scored, like, maybe 17 points. That'll be nice for the defense. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

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In their last 3 games, how many how many points do you think the Browns have scored in 3 games?

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Not many. 16. Yeah. I mean, DTR in his 5 starts has scored 37 total. Yeah.

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So, it's it's not it's not looking good. Also, here's a a fun fact from Paul Hembo. In the brown's 0 and 16 season in 2017, they never were more than a 13 and a half point underdog, and they're a 20 point underdog in this game. Also, Derrick Henry incentives. If he gets 1 touchdown, he breaks, Jamal Lewis' record for the franchise record, and he also gets $500,000.

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That's huge.

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And he also is 217 yards away from 2,000, which he would be the oldest player to get 2,000 rushing yards. Yards.

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That's huge. I I read somewhere. I forget who posted this, but this is the 40th quarterback that the Browns have started since 1999

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Oh, man.

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With Bailey Zappi.

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Oh, man. Yeah. That's tough. Okay. Yeah.

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I mean, this is kind of a 1 eye game. Mhmm. It's football. Yeah. It's a Saturday afternoon.

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1 eye game.

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This is this is the last week of the NFL season. Your team is playing this weekend.

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Yeah.

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For a lot of people, it's gonna be your last chance to watch your team play. Which This is big.

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I'm so excited to not see my team play anymore.

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Okay.

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Yeah. Like, the playoffs are gonna be great because I don't have to watch my team. I think Browns fans probably are in the same boat.

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I get that, but there's something different about an NFL Sunday where where you know what you have to do, and you know that you have to put on that brown jersey, the face paint. Yeah. You know, you have to do you have to do the whole it's a, it's a tradition. It's a ritual. Yeah.

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This is your last Sunday of that ritual that you get to experience until maybe late August.

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Yeah. Okay. Bengals at Steelers. Steelers minus 2 over under 48. I don't know what's going on with the Steelers.

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Mike Tomlin allegedly corrected the the he he hit the elephant in the room talk

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Mhmm.

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With I think it's Cam Sutton is what people are guessing, but also maybe Minka and also maybe Patrick Queen, is the guy that everyone keeps talking about who's missing assignments. Yeah. Also, did you see George Pickens' video from the locker room?

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I did not see that 1.

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No. Okay. So this is kind of, perfect for can you actually pull it up, Max? George Pickens talking about Russell Wilson and him being not being on the same page. This is a perfect, like, it's a perfect example of where the Steelers are right now as a team because they they've been taking on water.

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They've been playing real teams, and they've been losing, and it doesn't feel like the vibes are super high. Yeah. Here we go. Here's the video. This George Pickens being asked about being on the same page with Russell Wilson.

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It just

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seemed like you and Russ weren't on the same page in that interception against the Chiefs. How does that happen, and what do you guys do to address it?

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He said me and Russell isn't on the same page?

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Yeah. Well, that's what he said. That's what he said? Yeah.

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Or is that

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what you said?

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That's what he said. Oh, okay. Fair enough. How how do you just address that? Thank you.

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You know what? So they weren't on the same page even.

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You know what? Mike Tomlin, coach of the year. Right there, what I just saw from George Pickens, that's growth. But he He he physically took his shiesty, pulled it up over his mouth. He's like, I can't I wanna say a lot of things right now.

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Coach told me, don't say anything. And he he physically restrained himself talking.

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But that video

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is that.

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But that video is so funny because it's a reporter saying, what do you think about not being on the same page as Russell Wilson? And he's like, wait. He said that or you said that? Mhmm. He's like, no.

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Russ said that. And he's like, oh, shit. I didn't even know Russ said that, proving that they're not on

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the same page. They weren't on the same page on

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that 1 play. Or or in the follow-up interviews. In the

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follow-up.

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Yeah. Because if they were on the same page in the follow-up interviews, they both would have known they weren't on the same page. George Pickens thinks they were on the same page. Russell Wilson does not.

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I just appreciate George moving forward.

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Yeah. Okay. For this game as well, Joe Burrow could become only the 4th player ever to get 5,000 yards passing and 45 touchdowns in a season. So he needs 359 yards and 3 touchdowns. The other 3 player 4 players, so it'd be the 5th actually of all time.

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The other 4 players are Patrick Mahomes in 2018, Peyton Manning in 2013, Drew Brees in 2011, and Dan Marino in 1984. And it made me realize we don't put enough respect on our good dear friend, recurring guest, Dan Marino, because him having 5,084 yards and 48 touchdowns in 1984 when the game was not a passing game is fucking insane. Mhmm. That's an insane statistical see like, think about it. Joe Burrow's having a career year, and he still needs to do some work to get to what Dan Marino did.

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And the league is completely different. All 4 of the all the other 3 that I mentioned all happened in the last 13 years, and Dan Marino did it fucking 40 years ago.

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Yeah. You could still basically interfere with receivers. Yeah. You could hit the shit out of the quarterback 5 seconds after they threw the pass.

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Teams just tried to run the ball. Yeah. They tried to establish the run over and over. I looked it up. So after he did that in 1984, it took 15 years until someone had over 40 touchdown passes in a season not named Dan Marino because he actually did it again 2 years later, 44, touchdown passes.

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Kurt Warner in 1999, and it took 22 years for someone else to eclipse 5,000 yards in Drew Brees. Mhmm. And it's 21 years, I think, until, when Brady broke the the touchdown record, his touchdown record in 2007. So it's like more respect on Dan Marino. That that's just an absolute anomaly of, like basically, you picked a stat line from today's NFL, and you just stuck it right in the middle of the eighties.

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And you're like, yep. That's what Dan Marino did.

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Yeah. It's pretty crazy to imagine that.

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It's nuts.

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And and what Joe Burrow has done this year has been awesome. I can't I can't wait for this game because I think that no matter what, the Steelers are gonna play very, very hard. The Bengals, when they try their very hardest, they might end up losing in heartbreaking fashion, but it's gonna be a crazy game.

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Yeah. Yeah. No. It's gonna be

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a great game. And I We get we get Renegade and a night game. We get the terrible towels going. Double Renegade. Maybe Double Renegade.

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Yeah. Joey Porter Junior trying not to interfere with people.

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It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. Okay. Onto Sunday.

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Commander's a cowboys. Cowboys plus 6. Over under is 44. How we feel? BFT, you gotta win this game to avoid the Eagles?

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Doesn't matter. We play who we you gotta beat good teams in the playoffs. Okay. That's that's what I'm looking at right now.

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Have you fully, come to grips with the seeding?

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Yep. I'm on to the Packers. Okay. Okay. I'm I'm I'm ready for the Packers.

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Because you're you're just trying to duck the Commanders.

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It's okay. I'll play I'll

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play you. I I want Max. But the reality is We'll

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see what Mike Florio said about that when we get to that. We'll get

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to the NBA.

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We gotta take care of business.

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Number 1 thing he said was as long as you don't play the Eagles.

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Okay. Mike Flora knows ball. We'll get who am I to argue with? Yeah.

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We'll get to it.

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We'll get to it, but that's what he said.

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Okay. Alright.

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So, Max, I wanna beat the Cowboys because I wanna win every game that I'm in regardless of opponent. Also, 4 and 2 in the division, net in those parentheses next year record looks a lot better than 3 and 3 in the division. So that's what I'm hoping for, and I'm hoping to stay healthy.

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Yeah. Just stay healthy. This game made me think of there's a lot of especially with the 12 team playoff and the new wild card in in Major League Baseball, people complaining about, you know, the the play in game, the NBA. Too many teams make the playoffs. Imagine if we had 6 seeds this year.

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Yeah. That would well, actually, it would be awesome if you win this game because then the Packers would be out.

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Them out.

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Yeah. But still, like, you would basically be eliminating a team that has, 11, 12 win team.

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Yeah. 12 wins. 2 teams tied at that. 1 would get left out. And then in the NFC, like, anything can happen as far as the road goes.

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If we win this game, we get the 6 seed. We could play at the Rams. We could play at the Bucks. Mhmm. You don't know.

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And then once the receding starts to happen I mean, we talked about a dream scenario.

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Crazy.

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We'll have to wait for that that conversation.

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Mhmm. Yeah.

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I'd I'd like to beat the cowboys. You always wanna beat the cowboys. But to me, the most intriguing part of this game is is Mike McCarthy and what happens afterwards.

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Yeah. Yeah. Also, Ezekiel Elliott went for the saddest, release ever. I don't know if you guys saw this, but Jerry Jones released Ezekiel Elliott out of respect and appreciation for Zeke so he'd have a chance on a playoff team. Uh-huh.

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He did not get claimed, and I don't know if anyone will sign him.

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Yeah. I don't know I don't know what really the expect the ideal scenario for him is to stay on the cowboys and to keep getting these lifetime achievement touchdowns from the cowboys when they get the ball at the 1 yard line. Yeah. Be like, here he goes, Zeke. Who I guess you can have a touchdown.

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Who would even who would even sign them?

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Maybe the 1 team that I've heard that would make any bit of sense would be the Chargers.

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I was just saying Chargers are banged up. Injured.

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Yeah. Because they're banged up at that position.

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JK Dobbins is back. But yeah. But besides that, I don't know why.

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I don't know why any team would really

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Let him be a Raven. Sure. Fuck it. Let him be a Raven. Get him on the Chiefs.

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Let him spell Derrick Henry.

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If Andy Reid is trying to win a Super Bowl on expert mode, get Ezekiel Elliott back there and give him meaningful carries.

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Ezekiel Elliott back there. And, and me and, what's his name? Who's the Carson Seal. No. The guy who who drops all the balls.

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Oh, Kadarius Tony.

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Yeah. Kadarius Tony. Bring him back. Yeah. Let's get it going.

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But, yeah, I I feel like the cowboys could be a little live, but it's really just it was not about the cowboys. It's more like, is there any emotional letdown to such an incredible Sunday night, which was incredible. Like, that was, you know, clinching the playoffs, winning at home, the Jaden Daniels insane drive to end the game. I still think the commanders will win, but that would be my only argument for it.

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I hope so. I hope we win. I think that we're gonna win. I'd like to see Luke McCaffrey get a touchdown too. I went back through all the film.

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He was my all 22 project this week. The stuff he does without

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the ball. Did you hear on Sunday Night Football that they they they did say Marshawn Lattimore played well?

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He did. The Eagles. He did play

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well. Collinsworth did say that.

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He did. You do listen. Obviously, you don't want pass interferences are not good, but they don't always tell the whole story. Yeah. But, yeah, Luke, get get Luke a touchdown.

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Will you while watching the

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first guy to help up a teammate too.

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Yeah. While watching this game, will you be if you lose this game, will you be like, will you be upset? Will you be like, shit, Eagles?

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I think it only it it matters how we lose the game. If we lose with no injuries and we don't look just terrible Yeah. Then I'll be like, listen. I I'll take the Eagles. You play who you play.

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Because Hank and memes, I I you guys agree. We we wanna see Eagles commanders. Yeah. Yeah. For the show.

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You play who you play. Is nodding their head right now. Yeah.

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I wanna beat good teams.

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That's the

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thing about me, Bekat, is I want to beat the best.

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Yeah. Max wants the easiest path Mhmm. Possible. Also, his quarterback's still in concussion protocol.

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That's very true. Well, Tanner McKee. Tanner McKee. I I'm okay. Can I amend this?

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I don't want I want 0 part of playing Tanner McKee in

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the playoffs.

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I don't want that guy because that guy

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He's he's different. 3 for 4, 2 touchdowns. Yeah. Alright. Bears at Packers, Packers plus 10 over under 41.

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LaFleur said he's playing everyone. The bears haven't won a road game on a Sunday since. Anyone wanna take a guess? 2021. Yes.

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Week What? Week 15 at Seattle, Nick Foles was a quarterback. 20 Sunday road games in a row. They have lost. Sunday.

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They've won some shocking. They've won some Thursday night road games. They've won, I think, a Monday night road game. They have not won a Sunday road game since 2021. And they won't win this game, so we'll just go into 2025 being like we haven't won a road game on a Sunday.

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So it's gonna be bear weather, though, which is also Packer weather.

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No. It's more bay bear weather.

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So it's gonna be, like, low twenties, maybe some snow.

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Just get me out of this season. I don't really wanna watch this game.

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What if what if you beat the packers?

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So We're not gonna beat the packers. Packers are gonna embarrass us. They're gonna laugh at us, and then we're gonna hire Brian Flores, and I'm gonna kill myself.

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That's a bad thing, you think?

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Yeah. Would he kill himself?

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I don't know. Hope he would not want me to die. Yeah. With, well, let me ask you this. Hey.

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Has Brian Flores ever coached a, young quarterback? And how did it go if he did?

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They had a couple, what, 2, 9 1 seasons back to back?

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2 in the Dolphins? I don't believe so.

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I think they had, Well,

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he put in Brian Fitzpatrick over to us.

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Yeah. Well, I can also chalk that up to Brian Flores being part of Bill Belichick's tentacles where he would just True. He would farm out his assistant coaches to go destroy another team, and so he probably loved a a team in the division getting absolutely creamed by Brian Flores.

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Let let me put it this way.

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9 and 8, 10 and 6, 5 and 11.

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Which 1 of the those 10 and 6 was Witsua? Yeah. That might no. That was, I think, the year that they they he, like, wouldn't play Tua.

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2019, there were 5 and 11 and then 10 and 6 and 9 and 8.

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I would rather have I'm gonna say something crazy right now. Actually, I don't think it's that crazy. I'd much rather have, if given the choice, Mike McCarthy over Brian Flores. Just because you

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don't think that Brian Flores is 1 of these coaches that goes to his 2nd job, and he's like, I learned a lot of stuff from my first job. Like, namely, don't make your young quarterback hate you.

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I think Tua started, 9 games. Yeah. 9 games that season. I think Brian Flores could be a very good head coach with a well established quarterback in place.

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Okay. But he'd probably he'd probably have to hire a guy whose only job is to take care of Caleb.

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I just don't want a defensive coach, and I don't. I I want Ben Johnson, and then all the reports are out that Ryan Pohlz is trying to softly push the team away from Ben Johnson because Ben Johnson would then softly push Ryan Pohlz away from the team. It's the height of dysfunction. We're gonna talk about it with Florio. It's it's the worst.

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Brian Flores would be a disaster.

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I I don't know that he would, though. Yeah. He wasn't okay. Yes. He alienated Tua, but Hank just said 10 wins.

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Tua did not start that whole season.

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10 wins without Tua. Mike McDaniel would love that. Yeah. I just You get Tua started for 9 games. You win 10.

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He I I just don't I I don't want it. I don't want it.

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You but you did say you wanted Mike McCarthy.

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I said if given if you made me choose between the 2, I don't want Mike McCarthy either. If you said you have to take 1 of the 2, I would take Mike McCarthy.

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Mike McCarthy is a good coach. He's won a Super Bowl.

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Yeah. I I do not want either just for the record. But if you said you have to take 1 or the other, I would take Mike McCarthy. I mean, he's he's coached a young he coached a young Aaron Rodgers. He coached the transition between Favre and Aaron Rodgers.

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Mhmm. Like, that was, I mean, that was a difficult transition when Brett Favre decided to come back after retiring.

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He also can't beat the Packers.

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That's well, no. He he can beat the packers.

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As the Cowboys coach?

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No. As the end of his time with the packers, he beat the packers all the time.

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That's true. He's got a lot of experience.

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He's beating the packers.

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Being in football games where the packers lose.

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Yeah. Right. Yeah. He's beaten the packers many, many times.

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So right now, the packers have a 108 wins against the bears. It's tied all time for the most victories by 1 team over another team. You know who you're tied with, though?

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Playing for a long time. You know who you're

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tied with, though? Who? Me. The Giants beating Oh. The Redskins football team commanders.

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So we'll we'll have that record.

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Yeah. Passing the torch game.

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I've been playing a long time, and it's been a long time of getting our faces just smashed in. Hank, Bill's patriots. Bill's the patriots. Patriots plus 2a half over under 37a half. What are we thinking for this game?

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I think that what you said the other day about Mayo coaching for his job and and leaving on the line is is what's gonna happen. I think I can speak from most, if not all, Patriots fans that we would rather see Drake may not play. Give us a little Joe Milton action, and hopefully, we lose the game. But it just feels like 1 that they're gonna win, and we're gonna lose, you know, some great draft picks as a as a result.

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And he's gonna try to save his job? Yeah.

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It needs the Joe Milton coming out game?

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No. I don't think he's gonna play. I think I I wish it was the Drake May coming out of the game game for Joe Milton, but I think today, they announced Drake May as a starter. So that's that dream is dead.

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Well, Josh is starting too. Yeah. But that's mostly so that he can continue the streak because he is available to play. Yeah. So he's gonna try to start.

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How many series do you

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think for Josh? 2? 2. Here's the here's what I'm I I I do think the pagers are gonna find a way to win this game because I think the Bills are gonna pack it in.

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Bills are good team, though. They got good backups. Like, they're they're well coached. Like, hopefully, they you know, they're they're focused on the playoffs, and so, hopefully, their whole team is kinda locked in in, like, playoff mode and the patriots are just, like, get the season over with, and and that's how it plays out. But I I feel like they're gonna patriots are gonna win.

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Fun fact about the Bills, and I guess it, depends on well, no. Right now, it stands. They're the only team to beat 2 14 win teams in a season. And if the lions win against the Vikings, they'll be the only team to beat 2 15 win teams in the season. Oh, that's pretty cool.

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Pretty crazy. Also, they're true. Like, imagine if the lions win, and it's like, hey. They that was their 2 their 2 wins or 2 of their wins against the 2 best teams, 1 seats.

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Yeah. And they could get 14 wins, which will be the most for the Bills in in franchise history.

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Yep. Here's the big thing that we have to figure out for this game, boys. And I don't even know if it'll be listed. Maybe is there for touchdown scores, is there other listed sometimes? It's probably not up.

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I don't know. Know what touchdown is. So the Bills have 13 different touchdown scores, reception touchdowns this year. The record is 14, and the Bills have talked about it, how they're like they see this as a team award Mhmm. And they're excited, and they wanna break this record.

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Zach Davidson is the name that I found. He is the backup backup tight end and Reggie Gilliam. Those are the 2 guys that could conceivably catch in in, like there might be an it might be an offensive line.

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I was thinking of 1 in particular, Dawkins. Yeah. Does he have 1 this year?

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I don't think so. But this does I mean, doesn't it like, there was a report that they've been actively talking about, like, this would be a really cool record to get as a team. We gotta figure out who that touchdown's gonna be to.

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Dawkins anytime touchdown. Is that listed?

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I don't think that's to be listed. I think we have our best shot at doing offensive players and just spraying against like, I think they're gonna try to get this. I think they're going to try to figure out a way to get someone to catch maybe it's Mitch.

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John Dawson

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scored already.

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Oh, he did?

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Oh, fuck. What about has Josh got a receiving touchdown?

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Josh does.

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He does? Yes.

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Cast it to himself.

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Yep. Oh, shit. Yeah. So we have to figure out who that's gonna be. Yeah.

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I looked through it today. Yeah. Zach Davidson has, 3 games played in 1 reception this year, no touchdowns, and, Reggie Gilliam as well. I because, like, everyone else has scored for them. So it's crazy.

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Like, they've just had every single guy score a touchdown. We just have to figure out who it's gonna be. Oh, wait. Maybe. What?

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Dawkins hasn't scored?

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None of the props are out yet.

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So Yeah.

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Yeah. What about DeMar?

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I feel like if you put him on the field, everyone's gonna be like, that's gonna be a touchdown to Demar. Right?

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Yeah. Probably.

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Why is he out there? Okay. So that was more more to come on that. We gotta figure that out. Tamar out

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there is a decoy, and then he trips and falls down.

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And

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To Reggie Gilliam. The whole defense is like, oh my god. Is he okay?

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Yeah.

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Touchdown pass to Reggie Gilliam.

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Reggie Gilliam.

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Okay. Got it. I'm rooting

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for Reggie Gilliam.

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That would be fun. Gilliam softly with

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his song. Re Reggie Gilliam would be a very fun touchdown. Okay. Let's see. Next game, Giants and Eagles.

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Eagles minus 3 over under 37a half. PFT. Mhmm. Saquon is is kind of a pussy for this. No touch

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on for Dion Dawkins is here. Okay.

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No touch on. Okay. For not asking for The Rock? Yeah. So if I was Saquon ask

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for The Rock.

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If I was Saquon Barkley I demand the Rock.

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What I would say. I would march straight into Nick Sirianni's office, and I would say, coach, I wanna play. I wanna play for my teammates. I wanna play most of all, though, for the game. Yeah.

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For the game because I respect the game so much, and it's such a meaningful record.

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If you don't respect the game, the game won't respect you back.

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That's a good point. And, also, you're not you're not gonna tell me that Saquon doesn't have any feelings towards the Giants Mhmm. Like, going for the record against his own team that didn't want him. Like, either this is a Saquon problem, which Max just told me that it's not, or it's a Serquiani problem. Yeah.

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Nick Sirianni is like Clearly I don't have any the game means nothing to me. Yeah. Records mean history means nothing to me.

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Yeah. And it's just like I mean, I saw Dan Campbell playing all the stars against the 40 niners. That's culture.

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Yeah. You play to win the game.

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Yeah. And then and the Eagles are just like, no. We're not gonna play Saquon.

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Yeah. You play the game.

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About winning Super Bowls.

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Herm Edwards,

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culture Max Culture

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Super Bowl. Culture. Culture. Super Bowl.

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It's not it's not about it's not about Yes.

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It is.

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Saquon. It's not about Saquon. It's about the culture, the offensive line team, have been able to tell their kids and their grandkids, hey. I blocked for that guy that set the all time round.

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And you still can say it. And Sirionni

[00:55:33]

is talking about it. Down. You know this is coward shit. This is chicken shit.

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You guys. You know

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it's chicken shit. I'm asking

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you to rather see what you guys are.

[00:55:41]

At each other. It was like, you planned this conversation.

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We did not. We didn't win.

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It was like, I we're gonna find a way to fuck with Max.

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No. It's called it.

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It's called being in

[00:55:50]

lock stand.

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Yeah. It's called being in lock stand.

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With your teammate.

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Yeah.

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Football guys, making sure you're in the best situation to win a fucking Super Bowl.

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No. They

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can't say you guys

[00:55:58]

right now. Anything about that.

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I'm Lane Johnson right now. Okay? And and we we looked at each other. We said, we wanna play.

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Yeah. Give me The Rock. We both wanna play. Give me the fucking Rock.

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You're not playing either.

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And then Sirianni up in the boot. What?

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The linemen aren't playing either.

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I would say, give me the rock. I wanna get this record.

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We haven't had a week. We haven't had a bye since week 5.

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Oh, football too hard for you, Max?

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See, it's too hard for you.

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I would fucking I would be like, give me the fucking rock, Nick.

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You would love to be in a situation where you can rest your starters going into playoffs.

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You do realize no matter which way they decided, we would have just spun it to get you Yeah. At this point.

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Yep. Yep.

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If he had started, we would have been like, that's the dumbest decision he could

[00:56:39]

ever make.

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They care about records over over Super Bowl.

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Yep. That's I feel we've had this exact conversation

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the other way. Keep falling for it. No. I actually do feel bad for Saquon. He said afterwards, he was like, yeah.

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It was hard, like, telling my dad because he was like, my dad was like, this is our name, with a hallowed record, but it's the right decision. It is.

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I would I would feel worse if he didn't get into the 2,000. Yeah. Like, the 2,000 yard club, no matter what, is still, like, an elite group of running backs in history that have got there. It's it's hard to do. He still got he still got that mark.

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Mhmm. And he did it in in the correct amount of games too. Yeah.

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Correct. Yeah. So I'm not I like, he he still has that from this season. No 1 could take that off.

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No. He had an all time season.

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But we gotta win a shoot but we're trying to win a Super Bowl.

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We're

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trying to win a Super Bowl. And what I cannot could you imagine if any if him or any of the

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No. Linemen out of Earth. You would be

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because that's the thing. You're risking 6 guys.

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Yeah. But, Max, what do you think about rest versus rust? I know that's been a topic of discussion recently.

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Right now, we need rest.

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Yeah. But you saw what happened in college football playoff.

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Buys.

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Okay.

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You need you haven't had a buy in 15 weeks. That's not right math, but

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Well, you already have basically. You already have to buy. What? This is just more rest.

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Well, if you play the commanders, you have to buy.

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It's true. That's not true. That is incorrect. That is incorrect. Tanner McKee.

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This game is about Tanner McKee.

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Tanner McKee. Are you a little worried

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No. I

[00:58:19]

that Jalen Hurts is still in concussion protocol.

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Oh, that Yes. That

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yes? Yeah. I'd say yes. But, like That's not something you could just cheat your way out of.

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But you can just, like, stay in concussion protocol.

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No. I mean No. You can You don't, man.

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Tell me how concussion protocol works.

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I'll tell you how concussion protocol works. Jalen Hurts can't do any, like, physical activity when he's in concussion protocol. He doesn't wanna be in concussion protocol anymore.

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He'll be out by the beginning of next week.

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I think Max is right. I think he will be too.

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I do too, but I'm just saying it's not like concussion. Jaquan Brisker went to concussion protocol. I haven't seen him since.

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Thumbs up.

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Thumbs up.

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Did Jaquan Brisker give a thumbs up after the hit?

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No. And he's gonna concuss a lot, but I'm just saying, concussion protocol is the 1 injury where you can't be like, I'm good to go and and they give you the test and you fail it, and they're like, no. You can't play. I would be more comfortable

[00:59:12]

if he wasn't in concussion protocol. That's true. However, I'm not my panic meter of that is, like, a 3. Okay.

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Yeah.

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Well, 1 1 good thing about him is if there's a guy that has a history of being a starting quarterback that's no longer the starting quarterback supporting the new guy, it's probably Jalen Hurts.

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Mhmm. And if there's a history of a team being able to have a backup quarterback go win the Super Bowl, it's the Philadelphia Eagles. That's true. It's true.

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But I think he'll be okay.

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Oh my god. Imagine if they make a statue for Tanner McKee.

[00:59:45]

Tanner McKee? Tanner McKee?

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Skipping over Kenny. Is Kenny, is he out this weekend?

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Yeah. Kenny's not playing.

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He hurt

[00:59:52]

his ribs. So who's your backup? Ian Book.

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Oh, yeah. That's right. That's nice.

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Right? That's yep. Ian Book.

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Yep.

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Yeah. He hasn't progressed enough to be at practice. I mean, he would definitely wanna be at practice. Like, he can't be in practice. So

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But next week, he wants to be at practice.

[01:00:15]

Okay. Listen. I hope that's true. I wanna see Jalen Hurts play in the playoffs.

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He doesn't

[01:00:19]

I don't Same. I just know that, like, the concussion protocol is the 1 thing you can't be like you it's not like a bum ankle where you're like, I don't care. I'm going.

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Monday. Monday if he's not practicing on Monday, then I'm nervous.

[01:00:32]

Mhmm. Yeah.

[01:00:33]

But, like, this week because I don't get I don't get how you get out of concussion protocol.

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You have to just pass a test.

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But, like, what does that mean? Could he just be like, oh, yeah. I'm not gonna pass the test today?

[01:00:43]

You could yeah. I think you could flunk the test Yeah.

[01:00:45]

Intentionally. Just be like, I'm not and then I guess

[01:00:47]

you could.

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And then be like But

[01:00:49]

that would make no sense because you why you he still would wanna go to practice.

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Why? Just, like, take the week off.

[01:00:55]

Yeah. Just walk through with the team and, like, be able to, like, get your lifts in and shit. He can't get his lifts.

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But, like

[01:01:01]

He probably doesn't lift a lot right now. No.

[01:01:03]

Him and Saquon, they don't really

[01:01:05]

squat much.

[01:01:06]

I don't know if the thumbs up, though. What if he just gives a thumbs up again? 2 thumbs up.

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2 thumbs up.

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2 thumbs up,

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then you're out. Monday, I'm give because this week is, like, it's not a real week of practice. Like, they're not they're they're preparing for next week.

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Has anybody asked AJ Brown what he thinks about him still being in concussion protocol? No. I would like to see that question asked.

[01:01:27]

Yeah.

[01:01:28]

AJ Brown also not Pro Bowl, so he's probably mad about that. Jordan Mylotta not being Pro Bowl is bullshit. Number 1 ranked number 1 ranked player in all of offense in the NFL this year.

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The number 1 offensive player in the NFL?

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According to Okay. Number 1 ranked offensive player. Ahead of Saquon. Ahead of Saquon.

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So Saquon's system running back. I hope we're not Good tackle. I hope we're not having this discussion about the concussion protocol next week.

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I I agree. I don't think that Philly fans will understand.

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No. He doesn't. Yeah. Max literally doesn't understand. He's like, what do you mean?

[01:02:02]

I just knowing Philadelphia as a city, your starting quarterback has not been cleared to return to practice the week of a playoff game. That is not gonna go well for

[01:02:11]

the season. Of a playoff game.

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I'm saying next week.

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Oh, yes. Next week, that would be a big big big big problem.

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Big issue. By the way, I was thinking about it because Saquon Barkley obviously went over 2,000 yards. Adrian Peterson almost broke Eric Dickerson's record in 2012. That is another 1 where similar to Dan Marino, he deserves more credit because he had 1 of the worst quarterbacks of all time in Christian Ponder. Mhmm.

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And his number 1 weapon was Percy Harvey. Terrible quarterback. They just they could load the box. Adrian Peterson just ran right through him.

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Yep. So And he should've gotten that record too.

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Yeah. He did. He should've. He was so close. So so close.

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What Hank, what happened? Jerry. Oh, you're watching Jerry. Sorry. Is that the 1?

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No. Oh, is it coming up? No. Oh, it's behind?

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It's close. No. I thought it was close.

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Got it. Got it. Okay. Texas Titans. Titans minus 1 and a half over under 37.

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I the Titans are wearing the Oilers throwbacks. That's it.

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I hate that's so sad. So sad. It's so sad. Need the Texas just stop them for that. But I don't know.

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I don't know. I feel like this might be oh, Jerry?

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No. Uh-uh. That was the 1.

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We got the 2 headed monster of Will Levis and Mason Rudolph. You don't know how to game plan for that? No. You absolutely don't.

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And and I believe the Texas are not gonna play a lot of guys. Right?

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I I think Damico said that they're gonna play the starters just because they looked so bad in the last game.

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Got it.

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So it's like if the I think it goes based off how the first drive looks.

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Got it.

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If they have a good first drive on offense, then they'll probably take the starters out. Good first stop on defense. Okay. Get off the field.

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We also have incentives. Tony Pollard, 83 yards, he gets 250,000. Okay. That's possible. Mhmm.

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But that we should just do an incentives parlay for the touchdowns, especially.

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Yeah. I've got I've got 1 that I'm looking at later. 1 guy. This is a huge weekend for 1 guy in particular.

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Okay. Alright. Let's in this game yeah. Do we have no. Let's not talk about it.

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Analysis on this game. Yeah. I I hope that the titans lose so that they can be 2 and what is it? 2 and

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15 against the spread. Yeah. Yeah. Panthers and falcons, this game also I mean, the falcons, obviously, if they win and the bucks lose, they're in. I don't think the bucks are gonna lose.

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So the falcons are just they're hoping and praying.

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They're just thinking about last week. Think about timeouts. Yep. So the good news is if you're the Falcons, Raheem Moore still has a time out left over.

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Yep. So he gets 4 to start the game.

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That's a good advantage. Mhmm. Yeah. Just it's you're just gonna spend this entire game being like, fuck. We should've won that game.

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Yeah. Yeah. And you could've been in the playoffs. Could've won this won last week, won this week, been in the playoffs with Michael Penaix. Would've been awesome for them, but instead, no.

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I don't hate the Panthers in this game. Was it 8 points?

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Their defense is so banged up. Defense

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is bad. Yeah. 8 points. It's a lot. Yeah.

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Miles Sanders legacy game.

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Oh, okay. This is

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for his legacy in Carolina.

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I like that. I like that. Here's another depressing game. Jaguars and Colts. Colts minus 5 over under 40 4.

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The Anthony Richardson fallout has been a little ugly. Obviously, McAfee had his, long tweet, which I actually thought was, like, well said where he was just like, you guys I I tried to say that the culture was not good in this locker room, and everyone said that I was being a hater. Turns out the culture is not good at that locker room. And there was a report. They were so this is, I think, from The Athletic.

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They're trying to hold Richardson accountable, which is understandable, but then the guy they put in wasn't the guy either talking about Flacco. So when they went back to AR, at that point, it's like, okay. But what are we doing? That really affected the team. And then multiple players met with Richardson privately to tell him he wasn't meeting the standard.

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And, it sounds like everyone's been trying to he's been late to to meetings and stuff like that. It's a mess. Fire Chris Ballard and and try to figure it out from there.

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Yeah. So we're not gonna preview Jags games, though, because we said Those are Colts. Those are Colts. Those are Colts preview. We do have Colts tickets to give away

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to somebody.

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Oh, god. So what for the Jaguars game, what should it be?

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Bortles jerseys. If you

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have if you have a Bortles jersey Yeah. If you're a Jaguars fan that is planning on going to this

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game, I like that. Yeah. Absolutely. Because the Colts fans, you you shouldn't wanna go to this game. This this is suppressing.

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Saints at Bucks.

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So hit hit up part in my meme. Yeah. At part in my meme if you're a Jags fan in Indy this weekend and you want 2 tickets. Yeah.

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Alright. Saints at Bucks. Bucks minus 14 over under 43a half. We do have some incentives in this game. So this game, I think the Bucks are gonna win.

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Saints are walking corpse. They just want the season to end. So Mike Evans is gets $3,000,000 if he catches 5 passes and 85 more yards. Mhmm. That's a lot of money.

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Yeah. Also, Baker in his contract, and remember, Baker had that whole, like, that terrible thing where, like, he got kind of robbed of a lot of his money. So, I mean, he he obviously is doing fine, but it's not like

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He got stolen by his It's got some financial advice.

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Yeah. Yeah. So Baker has 5 incentives in his contract, each worth half a $1,000,000. He gets paid if he finishes the season in the top 10 in the league or top 5 in the NFC in any of these categories, passer rating, touchdown passes, passing yards, completion percentage, or yards per pass attempt. Through through the through 17 games, he's, like, 3rd or 4th in all of these.

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Yeah. So he that's another 2 and a half $1,000,000.

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Yeah. It's big.

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You could get.

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It's big. And, also, with those 85 yards for Mike Evans, then he would get to a 1000 yards

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Yep. The 11th straight season. Every season he's been in the NFL.

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Jerry Rice tie his record. Mhmm. Pretty good record to have.

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Mike Evans is a certified 1st ballot hall of famer that deserves more respect is getting close to top 5 wide receiver of all time.

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Yeah. So here's the real question about this game. The saints, they should want their season to be over. Yeah. But they're planning on maybe bringing back all their starters.

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Yeah. I saw Derek Carr, I saw that, might play. As of right now, when we're taping this, he might play. Kamara might play. They're doing a simulated game, which I think is also known as practice.

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Mhmm.

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If you're

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an interim coach, you call it sound more badass. Something that Jalen Hurts can't do right now. That's very true. Chris Olavvy might return. I don't know why.

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That's crazy. I don't know. Out of concussion protocol before Jalen Hurts? Yeah. Apparently.

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So I don't

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know if these guys are gonna play yet because we don't have the final word on it, but it seems like they want to play their best players.

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Why are you pointing like that?

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Focus focus on

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him. Oh, Crystal Lavey got He's

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just looking at me. I'll look at look at your cohost.

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Crystal Lavey got 2 concussions, and he's out of concussion protocol maybe.

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Yeah. That's crazy.

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It is kinda wild. But, yeah, I don't know why the Saints are doing this. What's the upside?

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Yeah. I it makes no sense. It makes no sense.

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Also, the Saints, I feel like when they play at the Bucks, they typically play pretty hard

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Yeah. Pretty well. Yeah. They don't like each other. No.

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That's for sure. What were you saying, memes?

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MBS also needs 1 touchdown for 250 k.

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Okay. So that might happen. By the way, the looking at you reminded me I forgot to tell this story that I I read an article today. Chris Boswell made the the Pro Bowl, and he was talking about his career. And he said that when he was, first on the Steelers that, James Harrison would, in practice, stand over the kicks and say, if you miss this kick, you fucking kicker, you gotta wash my back in the shower.

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And then he would he said that they would sit in team meetings, and James Harrison would just, like, be sitting, like, a couple rows over and just be staring at Chris Boswell the entire time.

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See, this is that's what kickers need. You don't need this lovey dovey shit from Sark. You better you're gonna have to

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wash my back in the shower.

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And that's a big back too.

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Yeah. It's a huge back.

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It's gonna take a long time. Oh. I'm painting a ball.

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I just love the idea of James Harrison just not listening to anything Mike Tomlin saying and just staring at Chris Boswell instead. You little bitch. Yeah. Better make this fucking kick.

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Alright. So, Max, earmuffs. So if I'm being real, I would like for the for the Bucks to win and for the packers to lose Mhmm. This weekend because I feel like the Bucks is probably my best road.

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Yeah. The Bucks fun fact about the Bucks, I don't think they I think they've beaten only 1 team over 500. No. It'd be us. No.

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At the time, I'm saying. Oh, at

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the time. Yeah. Well, we were

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think it might have been the We were at the Thunder.

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2. We were o and o. They beat the Detroit Lions. Right?

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Yeah. Let me see this. When is it? Maybe it's in their last

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They also beat the Eagles.

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Was that when we when was that? So that's that's just wrong. I'm just wrong about that

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stat. Lions and I'm just wrong about that stat.

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Just couldn't be more wrong about that stat. I'm looking I'm looking up their schedule to maybe save myself a little, but I early reports are that that was very wrong. I don't know. This is the time of year where it's like, I just see a tweet. I'm just like, oh, shit.

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That's interesting. Yeah.

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You could lie by

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me. They beat you week 1. Yep. So it doesn't count.

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0 and 0, 500? Over 500 Yep.

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Is the is the thing. They did beat the lions. They were the eagles? What were your record?

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At that time, we were 2 and 1.

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Okay. Here's what it is, and I probably just read it too fast. I believe since September, they have not beaten team over 500 because their wins have been the the the saints, the giants, the Panthers, the raiders, the chargers will be the 1 team. That's where it is. Since September, they've beaten 1 team more 5 100 and the Panthers again.

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Okay. Y'all take that. I mean

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They had a they had a tough early schedule. I think they're a good team.

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September is basically the the post preseason. Yeah. Not even real regular season.

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Yeah.

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If you were team x though, hypothetical team x in the NFC, and you had to pick who you want to play in the playoffs, would you rather play at the Rams, the Bucks, or the Eagles? Team x.

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I would rather play Rams 1, Bucks 2, Eagles 3.

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You'd rather play the Rams?

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I would.

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I think it'd be Bucks, Rams, Eagles.

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I I agree for t Max.

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I'm not a believer in the Rams.

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Championship experience, though. I'm I'm a

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believer in Sean McVay's coaching ability.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that probably makes sense. The Bucks probably I mean, they've only beaten 1 team over 500 this entire year.

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Entire year. Yeah.

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So, yeah, that makes sense. Okay. Yeah. I'll I'll go with that. Bucks, Rams, Eagles.

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And now you so you need the Bucks to what? Lose? No. No. Bucks Bucks win.

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Win.

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I got the playoff simulator pulled up right here. We need the Bucks to win Mhmm. And then we need to we need to win.

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Okay. Got it. And then it'll be you versus Stephen Shea, which

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is a great driver. Which I I've lost to him before. Yeah. It's not a pleasant experience. Oh, and then I think we would also need the Seahawks to beat the Rams Got it.

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For that to happen.

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Got it. Which should happen because the Rams are sitting everyone. Could happen. Okay. Afternoon, Chiefs of Broncos.

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This is the big 1.

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It is. Everything it all hinges. This is the hinge game.

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Carson Wentz controls the fate of Sunday.

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I I can think of no worst fate. And if you had to pick 1 guy in the NFL for everybody else's enjoyment to be pinned

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on Yep.

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He's the last. Yep. He's dead last.

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Dead last. DTR.

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DTR. We've got, we got Bo Nix who, beat out Patrick Mahomes in the Pro Bowl this year. Mhmm. And the Broncos obviously have everything to play for.

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Mhmm.

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The Chiefs, the only thing they have to play for is to just be like, yeah. We're the fucking Chiefs.

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Yeah. I I kinda like the Chiefs in this game. There's so much pressure on the Broncos. I mean and maybe not to win it outright, but 10a half, like, there's just so much pressure on the Broncos.

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Mhmm.

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And you have Carson Wentz who had the reports like, hey. Look. I this these are these are moments that I have to, like, cherish and take advantage of because I don't know many I'm gonna have. Like, he's gonna try to play his best, which that could be a problem.

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You know what? I'll say this. It's way more entertaining that we get Carson Wentz in a try your very best game than it would be if we had Billy's happy.

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Mhmm. Right? Absolutely. Absolutely.

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You're either gonna get something spectacular from Carson Wentz, or you're gonna get, like, the most awkward you're looking like a deer on a a frozen over pond

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Yeah.

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From Carson Wentz.

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From Carson Wentz. Yeah. Yeah. There's just so much pressure on the Broncos. Like, you just can't fuck up.

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You're you're you're playing the backups. Mhmm. You can't fuck up, and they might fuck up.

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But if the Chiefs win, then everything else gets way more exciting.

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That's absolutely true. That's absolutely true. It's alright. Let's do the the next game, Dolphins and Jets. Listen.

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I know Dolphins fans are upset because they I I saw it. They're they're a little upset that we discounted the Dolphins. Here's my thing on the Dolphins. And I said a lot of nice things about Dan Marino. Remember those things I said about Dan Marino?

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And Brian Flores. And Brian Flores. And a lot of well, no. I actually said nice things

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About Tula?

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No. I said nice things for dolphins fans will back up everything I said about Brian Flores.

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True.

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If the dolphins could get in the playoffs and I could guarantee the Tula was healthy and they could play in a dome, I'd be interested in watching a Dolphins playoff game. If the Dolphins get in the playoffs and it's not Tua and it's going to Buffalo,

[01:16:01]

seen it. We're actually helping out Dolphins fans here. The the meanest thing you could hope for is to get to the playoffs, make the trip to Buffalo, super cold, Bills win by 35 points.

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Yeah. And I guess I I know that with Skyler Thompson, you only lost by 3 in that same setting, but I just I can't do the Dolphins in a cold weather playoff game again. I just I want really good playoff games. What happened last year in Kansas City was just a total quit where it's like, that was a waste

[01:16:30]

of our Saturday night. Mhmm.

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Remember we started watching the Telemundo? Yeah. What what are what are they? Oh, the Panuelas?

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Now that Penuela. Yeah. Panuela. Swags.

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I just I I'm sorry, Dolphins fans. If you gave me a choice, Broncos, Dolphins, or Bengals in the playoffs, it's Broncos and Bengals way ahead of the Dolphins. It does. It's something new well, it's not new for the Bengals. Something new for the Broncos, and it's an insane explosive offense for the Bengals.

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Yeah. But I can understand if you're if you're a Dolphins fan, you would rather get into the playoffs. Of course. Of course. After a season that looked as lost as this season did many times over, where it felt like the sky was falling

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Oh, yeah.

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All the time for the Dolphins. If you can turn a sky has fallen season into a playoff berth, that's a pretty cool thing. Alright. But we're just thinking, we're trying to protect Dolphins fans.

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Yeah. You

[01:17:18]

don't you know what would happen if you went up and you saw you saw daddy and Josh Allen hung 4 touchdowns on you, and the game was over in the Q2.

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Yeah. I I'm I'm going I'm rooting against the Dolphins to make the playoffs. If the Dolphins somehow make the playoffs, I will be the first on Sunday night when we're taping the show to say that was an insane season by the Dolphins to put it all back together for Mike Roteno to keep the team going and find a way to get into a playoffs where you thought it was completely lost after Tua got concussed. All all credit to the Dolphins. Like, they would be deserving, and it would be it it would be nuts because they were dead.

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They were dead in the water, you know, 6 weeks into the season, but I'm not gonna roof for you on Sunday.

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It would also answer the the question that we had about Mike McDaniel when he first got the job. Like, how can he do in a season where everything goes

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to shit? He's done pretty well. He's done okay. Yeah. No.

[01:18:10]

No. The Dolphins have done pretty well in this season. And so they're going up against the Jets. Memes, congratulations on interviewing Louis Riddick and Ron Rivera. Mhmm.

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For GM and coach. I love these posts, by the way,

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that the official team accounts put out, like, after they've concluded it. They're usually sponsored posts too. Yeah. It's like, we've just interviewed Ron Rivera. Sponsored by Bose.

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I thought of a positive for Ron Rivera.

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Okay. Great guy. We know him. I have

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his phone number. He's an owner killer.

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Oh. That is true.

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Yes. So his final 2 years of the

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Panthers Oh. I want Ron Rivera. Yeah.

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He sold the team, and then the final is last 2 seasons of the Commanders. How many he was there for 3?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. That's true. And then they

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Damn. That's a good spin zone.

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Mhmm.

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That'd be a positive.

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He's such a he's such a good person that he ends up making the bad owners be like, hey. We gotta we gotta get out of here. We've seen how good a person should be. Yeah. And we're just not that.

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Yeah. He's a nice guy.

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Good podcast guest. Very good podcast guest. Very nice guy. Memes which a or b sad stat for the jets? B.

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B would be the Jets have gone 9 straight years without an offensive player in the Pro Bowl. 2015 Brandon Marshall.

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That there's no way that's true. 15, 8 of it. There's no way that's true.

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We had a wide receiver, but it was technically special teams.

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I don't think that counts. Is that true? Andre Roberts. That's a long time. Okay.

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You want a? Sure. Greg Joseph is now the kicker for the Jets. The Jets have more kickers this year than

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wins. Alright. Positive.

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It's their 5th kicker.

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There's also a stat that's

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That's tough.

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The Jets signed, 5 players from the Commanders, which would line up for Ron Auvergne

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in the job. Who'd they sign?

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I'll have to pull up sweet. But it was Greg Joseph. They signed a d lineman, a quarterback.

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So Ron was getting his players in there ahead of

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time Yeah.

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To learn the playbook from a different coach.

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And then

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they're getting them in.

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Yeah. Just to learn the culture and the environment. Is this Aaron Rodgers' last game for the New York Jets memes?

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I believe so. And then in the final act, I think they're gonna get him killed because we

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Oh my god.

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Our right guard, it was, DNP and Morgan Moses, who the right tackle was also d not DNP today. So if we don't have either of them, Olou's out. Aaron Rodgers might get sacked a 1000 times.

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Okay.

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Yeah. I mean, it doesn't feel like Aaron Rodgers, he says he's no darkness retreat this year, so that's good.

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He's gonna lock in.

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Yeah. It's been the best 2 years of his life. Yeah. It's gonna be fine.

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I guess it's been a cool year. You got paid a lot of money for not working.

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Yes. You sucked.

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Yeah. But not no. Last year, I'm saying. Yeah. He was injured, but, I mean, if you get paid, have what, 20,000,000, 30,000,000 to not work, that's a pretty good year.

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Yeah. It's a really good year. By the way, we'll have more with the Aaron Rodgers stuff with Florio who actually has some good insight. Don't give it all away, Max, this time. You or you're about to.

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No. Just the that 1 part.

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K. Chargers at raiders. Raiders plus 4a half. Chargers, if the stilars lose, the chargers are gonna wanna win this game because they would, play the texans and get up to the 5 seed. I feel like there's a correlated parlay in there.

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Maybe take Bengals and chargers. Mhmm. Because if the first leg hits, the that line will probably go a little higher because the chargers will have more incentive to play. The Steelers win, the chargers will have nothing to play for. Correct?

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That the Steelers win let me pull up the playoff machine again here.

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I believe they have nothing to play for because they beat the Broncos twice this year.

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The the good vibes fun parlay, which is Jets, Chiefs, Bengals money line is 17 to 1. Woah. 17 and a half to 1.

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Wait. Say it again.

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Jets, Chiefs, Bengals.

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Not the hungry dog.

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That's not the hungry dog. I would just but for

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Oh, because the Bengals are favorites. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. Will it be a hungry dog?

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Steelers win, and the chargers would be they get the 16

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Yeah.

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No matter what.

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Yeah. So just watch that. That will be important.

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Yeah. I don't think that Harbaugh is capable of playing any activity where he's not trying to win. Well, that's not the the object of it. So I feel like they're gonna go out there and, and compete. They're gonna try to win the game.

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I wouldn't be shocked if, like, the Steelers win this the game on Saturday night, and then, like, the chargers medical staff is, like, tells all the guys, like, just say you're injured to start the game because otherwise, there's no 1 that's gonna be going.

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I mean, Harbaugh literally did say we're attacking it with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. Yeah. Yeah. But hasn't he said that before about things? Everything.

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It's just like every time he says that, it's unknown to mankind because this week, it's even more enthusiastic.

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Correct. He just keeps bumping up the enthusiasm. Also, incentive watch, JK Dobbins, 58 rushing yards for a 150 k. Mhmm. That's gotta be so awesome to go into a game being like, if I do this like, if I catch 1 touchdown pass, I get a half $1,000,000.

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Yeah. That's awesome.

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And I feel like all all their teammates are rooting for them to make money.

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Yeah.

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It's not their money. You want your boys to get paid.

[01:23:38]

Yeah. Absolutely. Alright. Seahawks at Rams, Rams minus 6a half over 38a half. Geno This is my incentive special.

[01:23:46]

Yeah. 185 yards passing gets $2,000,000. So not only that. Yeah.

[01:23:51]

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's scratching the surface, big cap. Buckle up. Smith gets $2,000,000 if the Seahawks finish with a 10th win.

[01:23:59]

K. He gets 2,000,000 if he gets 4,282 yards. That's the 1 where he's, he's 185 away.

[01:24:07]

Mhmm.

[01:24:08]

And he also gets $2,000,000 if he finishes with a completion percentage better than 69.75. Right now, he's at 70.23. Woah. So Geno Smith could make $6,000,000 on Sunday.

[01:24:21]

So this is not only Geno Smith, but this is also dump offs. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Charbonneau

[01:24:29]

catches. Charbonneau catches Walker. She she plans.

[01:24:33]

Out still. Yeah. But yeah. Okay. We gotta go we gotta go crazy on Geno.

[01:24:39]

Geno. Geno is gonna listen, Geno.

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Wait. What was the second 1 you said? The the 10 wins, the yards 10 wins.

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And the completion. He needs he needs a 185 yards. Yep. And then he needs to win, and then he has to finish with a completion percentage better than 69.75. Right now, he's just above 70.

[01:24:56]

Wow. So if he finishes this game at 69, that might be enough to bring it down. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not a I'm not a math guy.

[01:25:05]

What are you doing, Max?

[01:25:07]

Sorry. That that caught my eye.

[01:25:09]

He needs to be safe, he's gotta get I I don't know. 69.75% is what the number is. If you would it drop him down beneath that if he finished this game at 69?

[01:25:22]

It would. For the record also, I saw something that popped up on my Twitter that said bears eyeing head profile airs eye high oh my god. Air's Eye High Profile Coaches for Head Coaching role, and it was about Mike McCarthy.

[01:25:34]

And then the first tweet in it, it was just mine saying stop this, which should have told you to stop this. So this is our Geno game.

[01:25:41]

This is our Geno game. Okay. I think we gotta unload the clip on Geno Smith.

[01:25:44]

I agree.

[01:25:44]

Nobody's ever believed in Geno Smith more than us.

[01:25:46]

Yes. And Jimmy g is starting for the Rams.

[01:25:49]

Jimmy g, who's a winner? He is

[01:25:50]

a winner. He went to

[01:25:51]

a Super Bowl. He wins football games. Yep. Went to actually multiple Super Bowls, technically. Maybe the funniest outcome would be if Jimmy g went out there and just lit it up and then to see what team would then overpay Jimmy Garoppolo to be a quarterback for the next season.

[01:26:05]

I feel like if you're Jimmy Garoppolo, even if someone tries to overpay you, it's like, dude, being the backup in Sean Sean McVay. Like, being around Sean McVay, just do that. Yeah. Just be there. And, also, Matthew Stafford's, like, the toughest guy ever.

[01:26:17]

Yeah. So So your job It's

[01:26:19]

a good job.

[01:26:19]

Is pretty safe.

[01:26:20]

Yes. Good job. Okay. 40 niners at cardinals wrapping up the afternoon slate. Big question here is, Josh Dobbs, can you have a revenge game if you've played for 8 teams?

[01:26:33]

No. Okay. I thought so. It's tough to have a revenge game in that scenario. Mhmm.

[01:26:38]

And also every stop you made

[01:26:40]

I think

[01:26:40]

was like the team being like, we're gonna give Josh Dobbs a shot.

[01:26:43]

The first team that got rid of you. The Steelers. So if it's the Steelers Yeah. I think you can have that revenge game.

[01:26:48]

Yeah. Also, Kyler Murray is 50 rushing yards and 1 rushing TD away from 750,000, so that should be in there.

[01:26:56]

Yeah. And and really nothing there's no difference made in this game between the 40 nines if you win or lose, really.

[01:27:01]

No. Josh Dobbs, you're gonna

[01:27:03]

be picking right around 11.

[01:27:05]

Yeah. No. My notes for this game were the the incentives, and then it was, we need to just keep hammering, this starts right now. Today is January 3rd, 2025. I know he's got a lot of years left, but George Kittle should be in Canton.

[01:27:23]

He is the 4th tight end all time to have 4 1000 yard seasons. 4th all time. So Kelsey has 7 of them. Gronk has 4. Witton has 4.

[01:27:34]

Kittle has 4. Yeah.

[01:27:35]

Put him in put him in a gold jacket.

[01:27:36]

Kittle should be in a in a gold jacket. We'll start working on a PowerPoint, but he's an absolute monster. You know what I This season's been bad, but he's been great.

[01:27:44]

I'll say this. If if Kittle when he gets into the hall of fame

[01:27:48]

Yep.

[01:27:48]

We'll make our own bust of George Kittle

[01:27:50]

Yes.

[01:27:51]

To keep in the studio.

[01:27:52]

Yes. Absolutely. And we'll say Greg Kittle. Yeah. And we'll make it bigger than the Canton 1.

[01:27:56]

Yeah. It'll look sweet. Double the size.

[01:27:58]

His hair, his flow will be better. Whatever hairstyle he wants in it, the Mohawk

[01:28:02]

Will be incredible. You name it. He's a hall of famer. Start start referring to him as George Kittle hall of famer.

[01:28:08]

Yeah. Do you think that the cardinals try extra hard in this game to put up points because the last half of the season has been so disappointing? Try maybe.

[01:28:20]

Yeah. Is that Jake?

[01:28:21]

Is that Jake Marsh?

[01:28:22]

Yeah. It is Jake Marsh.

[01:28:23]

Our darling Jake.

[01:28:24]

It's Jerry. We're doing a good job of watching this Jerry stream being distracted while we're podcasting.

[01:28:29]

Also, Jake Jake, being on TV reminded me, with college football,

[01:28:33]

with

[01:28:33]

the playoffs on, I would like to see Jake Marsh calling college football next year. Yeah. I feel like I feel like a lot of people would. Yeah. So if you're a big so and so out there, hire fucking Jake.

[01:28:44]

Oh, actually, I I talked to Jake this morning, and I I meant to tell him. When he listens to this, Jake, text me your predictions for time slots for the playoff games

[01:28:56]

Yeah. On Sunday. Although we did do that, like, 5 weeks ago.

[01:28:59]

Yeah. But I wanna see his because he takes a lot of pride. And

[01:29:02]

he usually nails them.

[01:29:02]

Yeah. He'll accept that 1. I knew

[01:29:04]

that 1 was all of

[01:29:05]

them wrong, and he was devastated. Okay. Last game, the big game. Vikings at lions. Lions minus 2a half over under 56a half.

[01:29:16]

Maybe the best game

[01:29:17]

of the NFL season is the last game.

[01:29:19]

I'm so excited for this game. Did you see Vikings OC? West Phillips said, Sam Darnold is a guy's guy type of guy.

[01:29:26]

I saw that. Yeah. Guy's guy type of guy. That's a football guy.

[01:29:29]

That is.

[01:29:30]

I think that's we've been looking for the way to describe a football guy for 8 years. A guy's guy type of guy Yeah. As a football guy.

[01:29:37]

I don't know how the Lions' defense is going to hold up, although Alex Anzalone did return to practice, so that's good. I don't I just don't know. I don't know how I think the Lions' offense will continue to be elite, but that defense is just it's tough.

[01:29:52]

I don't think Dan Campbell's gonna punt.

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I I honestly don't don't either.

[01:29:56]

I don't think that he is. This so this game

[01:29:58]

I think Kevin O'Connell might not punt. They

[01:30:01]

that would be awesome right before the game. Jim wins agreement. Because, like, why

[01:30:04]

would you wanna give it back to the Lions' offense?

[01:30:05]

Yeah. Neither 1 of us will punt.

[01:30:07]

And and, you know, if you're the Vikings, what what's the point like, there's gotta be a better chance on 4th down that you're going to get a 1st down against the Lions' defense than stopping the Lions from scoring on the way back.

[01:30:19]

Yeah. Maybe the best way is, like, punt till Jack Fox boom went down there, who's also he made the Pro Bowl, which is crazy Yep. That the Lions punter of all people

[01:30:27]

Yeah.

[01:30:28]

Made the Pro Bowl. Let them return it for a touchdown so you just get the ball right back.

[01:30:32]

Yeah.

[01:30:33]

That's kinda like a turnover.

[01:30:34]

Yeah. Exactly.

[01:30:35]

And then you just go for 2.

[01:30:36]

Yeah. So this game is gonna be awesome. I don't I honestly don't know. Eileen Lyons just because of the home crowd and, like, playing with that edge, but the Vikings are just really fucking good.

[01:30:47]

Yeah. So it's in this game, it's the most combined wins of any regular season game in NFL history.

[01:30:52]

Yeah. But so I didn't realize this. There's only been 8 teams total in NFL history to have 15 wins in a season. So 1 of these teams is gonna be the 9th team, And it's the fact that it's happening, obviously, with 17 games is a little bit easier. Mhmm.

[01:31:07]

But, this will be the, the this year, we'll have 2 teams with 15 wins no matter what, unless they tie, I guess.

[01:31:16]

Yep.

[01:31:16]

But, yeah, the the 15 win list is short. Only 8 teams. It's the 84 niners, 85 bears, 98 vikings, o 4 Steelers, o 7 patriots, 11 packers, 15 panthers, 24 chiefs, and then the winner of this game. Mhmm. So pretty cool.

[01:31:35]

So, also, do you know that Dan Campbell has more wins this season than Matt Patricia did in 2 and a half seasons?

[01:31:41]

I did know that. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:31:43]

It's pretty crazy.

[01:31:44]

Again, great job by the patriots sending your coaches out like little dandelion seeds floating through the wind to just go poison other NFL franchises.

[01:31:52]

We didn't talk about it because it was Monday Night Football. We didn't have a show on Wednesday. I I understand people being like Dan Campbell's an idiot for playing everyone. I had no problem with it because, again, Dan Campbell is as consistent as consistent gets. And he said it before the game.

[01:32:09]

He's like, I'm gonna get ahead of it. So when you guys rip me, this is the plan. Like, I just think that the that's just what his culture is, and it's just balls to the wall all the time.

[01:32:19]

I think there's something to be said too for guys that are stepping into positions on defense to just get them in games more.

[01:32:24]

Yeah. And They're

[01:32:25]

not gonna they're not gonna get better unless they play.

[01:32:27]

And and the lions are still on that climb up. If the lions win the Super Bowl this year, I would expect Dan Campbell to to to maybe be a little bit different next year if they get if given that same exact spot. Yeah. He's like, hey. We've been there, done that.

[01:32:39]

But they're still on that hunger climb up where that game meant something to them personally because that's where they lost last year. And, yeah, I just Dan Campbell does everything. He he telegraphs what he's gonna do. He's gonna be insanely aggressive at all times, and I think everyone in that locker room buys in, and that's all that matters.

[01:32:58]

Mhmm. Whoever loses this game is going to be the best 5th seed, the best wildcard team of

[01:33:02]

all time. Yeah. And it's, I mean, it's it's brutal. The the, like, the consequences of losing this to have to go on the road immediately.

[01:33:10]

Well, imagine that you're the Bucks or the Rams, and you're just sitting there. We we won our division. Oh, fuck. The Detroit Lions. Who would you want?

[01:33:20]

Well, if I'm the Bucks, I think I would rather have the Detroit Lions because we beat them in September.

[01:33:25]

But then if you're the Rams, you'd rather have the Vikings. Did you beat them also? Yeah. I guess that makes sense.

[01:33:33]

I feel like whoever if these teams meet up again in the NFC championship, whoever loses is gonna win in

[01:33:41]

those sports. I like that. I like that. So not the

[01:33:44]

end of the world if you lose this game. That's like my

[01:33:46]

Unless it's the Eagles like, unless that team loses and you have to go play like, if you're playing in a dome Yeah. I think the Lions could easily win in Minnesota. If they have to go to Philadelphia Yeah. Maybe a little different story.

[01:33:58]

That, that's, like, my I wish we could find out who the MVP is before the Ravens and Bills potentially play in the playoffs because I would take whoever lost the MVP to win that game. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Picks time.

[01:34:12]

Let's do it. So Max, you get 3. PFT and I get 2. Reminder, PFT and I are 2 points up on Max. We have 18.

[01:34:20]

Max has 16. If there are any ties, the tied people go to the bachelor party together. Max, you wanna go first?

[01:34:30]

I am I am yes. Right? Yeah.

[01:34:33]

I think you have first pick.

[01:34:34]

I have first pick.

[01:34:35]

Mhmm. What would your first pick

[01:34:38]

be? Should I say or should Hank?

[01:34:41]

Max. No. You say.

[01:34:42]

Seahawks minus 6a half. Oh, bad pick. Geno Smith.

[01:34:47]

Jimmy g. Terrible pick, Max.

[01:34:49]

Jimmy g. For How about

[01:34:50]

Geno Smith needs to win the game for $2,000,000.

[01:34:52]

That was the first question.

[01:34:53]

That was my number

[01:34:53]

1 that I've never done. Okay.

[01:34:57]

I'm gonna take the Vikings and the Lions over. I wrote down the wrong number here.

[01:35:01]

Mhmm.

[01:35:02]

But what is the over on that game?

[01:35:06]

56 and a half.

[01:35:07]

56 and a half. 50s at 42a half.

[01:35:09]

I have it at 42a half.

[01:35:10]

Oh, I love it at 42a half. Yeah. Holy shit.

[01:35:14]

Yeah. That's great. I just that's the fun over.

[01:35:16]

Yeah. Okay. I'm going to take, do I take my top 2?

[01:35:21]

Socks when

[01:35:22]

we were rooting for the game

[01:35:22]

in that game. Mhmm.

[01:35:24]

Hank? Do I take oh, I do? Well, no. Oh, not to I'll I'll take my second 1 and another 1, but it's not going against anyone else. Correct.

[01:35:35]

Alright. I'm gonna you know, I'll take my top 2. Stick my guns top 2, Bengals minus 2, and the Panthers Falcons over 48.

[01:35:45]

I got the opposite side. I get the Steelers plus 2.

[01:35:49]

So then I have my next 2. Right, Hank?

[01:35:50]

Mhmm.

[01:35:51]

Yeah. I have the Bengals, Steelers over 48. Woah. And the What

[01:36:03]

did what did Meebs just say?

[01:36:04]

You said don't do it. No. I'm not gonna do it. Do it. I switched.

[01:36:07]

I told I told I told memes I told memes I was gonna take the Jets, but I'm I'm switching it to Saints bucks over 43a half. The, what's it called? The incentives game.

[01:36:20]

Incentives. Mhmm. Yeah.

[01:36:21]

I like that. That was on my list. Okay. So, wait, what are your 3 picks, Matt? I'll

[01:36:27]

I have the Seahawks minus 6 and a half.

[01:36:30]

Over in Bengal Steelers is is a disgusting pick. Why? Because the Steelers might not be, like, play I guess, I mean, we No. They're gonna play.

[01:36:40]

They're gonna play, and the Bengals defense

[01:36:41]

I guess yeah. There was a lot of there was a lot of points. There's a lot of points.

[01:36:44]

And the Bengals are the Bengals are playing for their lives. Alright.

[01:36:47]

Say it again.

[01:36:49]

Take it back.

[01:36:49]

Bengals, sealers over 48.

[01:36:51]

Okay.

[01:36:53]

Saints bucks over 43a half, and Seahawks minus 6.

[01:36:58]

Come down to that because my my 2 games are will be done by the by the late slate. Your 2 games will be Yeah. I got the late Oh, you have the late, late 1.

[01:37:07]

So we have the 3 and o. Yeah.

[01:37:09]

That would be great. It could really come down to that.

[01:37:11]

Yeah. If Max goes 3 and o and PFT needs a win

[01:37:14]

I thought I thought I wasn't the Bucks Saints, I thought I wasn't gonna get.

[01:37:18]

I had that on my list. It just wasn't

[01:37:20]

top 2. Can't believe these are 3. Seahawks max.

[01:37:22]

Well, that 1 is just I saw the Gino need if Gino wins the game, they get he gets $2,000,000. Yeah. They, like, they're they have to win that game for him.

[01:37:31]

Yeah. Alright. So should we do our TD parlay? Can we put the Seahawks in our TD parlay? Why not?

[01:37:40]

Yeah.

[01:37:41]

Why not? Seahawks money line? Yeah. I don't

[01:37:44]

Alright. Fine. We won't, Max. Okay. Let's let's get some you know what?

[01:37:50]

I'll do Kyler Murray because he gets that 500,000 if he scores a rushing touchdown.

[01:37:55]

Okay. I like that.

[01:37:59]

Hank?

[01:38:00]

Conviction. Jackson Smith Najigba.

[01:38:03]

Okay. Alright. 50? Do a do a Vikings Lions. You don't want that?

[01:38:11]

I'm trying to think of, pretty much anybody in this game should score in theory. In theory, everyone should score.

[01:38:17]

Alright. We'll go we'll go Jefferson. Okay. What are the odds on what we just put out there?

[01:38:22]

I don't know if all those score TD scores are out yet.

[01:38:24]

Oh, okay. But those should be pretty good odds with with Kyler Murray.

[01:38:28]

Right.

[01:38:28]

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Okay. Time for Fantasy Fuck Boys before we get to Mike Florio.

[01:39:47]

Fantasy Fuck Boys, last of

[01:39:49]

the year. Lastly, it is. Oh,

[01:39:51]

If you're still playing fantasy, you're a fucking loser.

[01:39:53]

I got all my I got 4 leagues going week 18.

[01:39:56]

My top my start on the 6 packs.

[01:39:59]

Yeah. 6 packs.

[01:40:00]

Super Bowl, 6 packs on the way. We got it. Fuck. Yes.

[01:40:02]

January time. Time to lock in,

[01:40:04]

get in the gym. This is a year. Get that 6 pack going. My cinnamon 6 packs. 6 packs.

[01:40:09]

Dry January. Love it. You're doing pretty much dry January? I'm doing fry January. Every Fry January.

[01:40:14]

January. I like that. Even drink some some beers on Fridays? Yeah.

[01:40:18]

Okay. Love it.

[01:40:20]

And my sleep Or if

[01:40:21]

it's your birthday.

[01:40:22]

Yeah. My birthday, which it's not, but maybe.

[01:40:24]

If it's somebody's birthday, then you can drink. Deal. Got it. Okay. Deal.

[01:40:27]

Love it. Or love it. If football

[01:40:29]

is on TV too, you can drink beers then.

[01:40:30]

Deal. My sleep is jumpsuits. Things are so comfortable.

[01:40:34]

You could sleep in them. I got a

[01:40:35]

nice velour 1 on. Yeah.

[01:40:37]

Good to be back in the season, boys. Yeah. Hell yeah. Looking good, boys. They're looking strong.

[01:40:40]

Italians and jumpsuits just

[01:40:42]

Oh, yeah. Feels right.

[01:40:43]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey. It's, Johnny Puglisi. What's up, Johnny?

[01:40:48]

What's up, my

[01:40:50]

Johnny b. My starter. I was gonna start jumpsuits because it is jumpsuits.

[01:40:53]

Oh, hell yeah. Right? So we're all zipped up here.

[01:40:56]

Boys looking good. What's that, Telly?

[01:40:58]

It's it's Sergio Tacchini. That's nice. I like I like the jumpsuit. Solves a

[01:41:02]

lot of problems. Mhmm. My sitting, my I'm sitting in the Cleveland Browns because they're so fucking boring. I can't stand this. Can't stand, though.

[01:41:10]

Get them out of my face. Just send the rest of the season. Just don't show up on Sundays, guys. Come on. And then on Saturday this week, we're subjected to an extra day at Cleveland Browns.

[01:41:18]

My sleeper is, is Pornhub. Pornhub is sleeping if you're in, like, a third of the United States because it's now officially banned in 33% of states in the United States right now. Oh, shit. You can't log on without an ID.

[01:41:32]

Are we gonna whack off?

[01:41:33]

For those people to go to sleep. Government government putting the the wet sticky hands into your cell phones. Phones. Get

[01:41:40]

them off there.

[01:41:40]

Get them off there.

[01:41:41]

My that's bullshit. What's up? What's up, fuckers? It's Freddy Freddy Alfredo. Hey, Freddy.

[01:41:48]

Yeah. My stardom is health because I'm 2 days in. No candy in in January.

[01:41:54]

Love that.

[01:41:54]

What do we think about that, boys? No candy or ice cream in January. No sweets. No sweets in January. Sugars in January.

[01:42:02]

We're doing baby steps. What about your birthday? Woah. Shit. Gotta have cake.

[01:42:08]

What about donuts on Saturday?

[01:42:10]

Gonna buy them for my kids.

[01:42:11]

What about

[01:42:12]

He

[01:42:12]

if there's football. No bites?

[01:42:15]

Maybe just take out donuts. Donuts on Saturday count. That doesn't count.

[01:42:18]

What about when you order $40

[01:42:20]

worth of candy every time?

[01:42:21]

Gonna do that. What about dessert? Not gonna do that. If you have

[01:42:24]

a bad day gambling

[01:42:25]

Only donuts on Saturday and, cake on my birthday. That's it. What if you're on a cold streak? Not gonna happen. Already happened.

[01:42:35]

What if you're really hungry? 2 days in. Alright. My is mister beast, so he kinda did a thing. Did you guys see that?

[01:42:43]

No. No. Proposed to his, but he used the caption, so I kinda did a thing. Hey. That's some chick stuff, bro.

[01:42:49]

I did

[01:42:49]

a thing.

[01:42:50]

That's a that's some chicks tough. Some personal news.

[01:42:52]

Yeah. Put a ring on it.

[01:42:54]

So I kinda did a thing. And then my sleeper is Geno Smith.

[01:43:00]

Good sleeper.

[01:43:01]

I think he's gonna have a big game. Yeah. Did you guys see this? I listen. Cool.

[01:43:07]

But doing so so so I kinda did a thing that's a that's a that's a chicken's Instagram hashtag. Right?

[01:43:14]

I did a thing and then what's the emoji?

[01:43:16]

Or we did a thing.

[01:43:18]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, he said, I kinda did a thing. Make it all by himself. Yeah.

[01:43:22]

Missus Beast, you should be respected too. You're part of the process.

[01:43:26]

White boy Rick, I think, had a funny tree. He was talking about 1 of the funniest, phenomenons on Instagram for engagements is the, chicks in the comments, best friends who want to be like I knew before everyone else and will comment like, finally or like, like, I've been holding it in forever. Like, I I like I was

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I was so happy when you told me.

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Yeah. Right. Yeah. Just being like, I knew before everyone else. Mhmm.

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Just wanna let everyone know.

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Wait. Go back to

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the picture of the hand. He could've done better. With the ring? With the ring side. Yeah.

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I agree. You know what he should've done is he should've had his he should've been like, hey, my girlfriend. I'd like to propose to you. Here's an African diamond mine, and I'll give you 24 days to find the biggest diamond you can get.

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Yeah. Or if he goes he just puts it on a live stream, the the more hours you can last without saying a word Yeah. The diamond gets bigger.

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Yeah. That would've been great if he beastified it. Yeah. So he kinda did a thing. Why

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are they all just wearing his merch?

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Also, this is the most staged picture ever. That wasn't a that wasn't

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a candid. You don't think that was at the moment? Congrats to him, though.

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Looks very happy. I did

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see somebody, when Jeremy Reeves got engaged after semi life football last last week. Yeah. I saw somebody that was saying, like, I would never in a 1000000 years get down on my knee to propose to a woman. Yeah. I saw that.

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That's a bad way to start off a relationship. Yeah. Putting yourself beneath the woman. That's honestly, fellas, is it gay to propose to women?

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Sounds like it. I think it might be. What a take. What a take. Okay.

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Okay. We now welcome on 1 of our best friends in the whole world. It is the CEO of Pro Football Talk, also author, all his books, Amazon 99¢ for the entire year. It's Mike Florio. Mike, we wanted to have you on because it feels like there's a lot it's, like, almost a a precursor to what will be Black Monday soon, in a matter of days.

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There's a lot going on in the league. I don't know where we you know what? Let's start.

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I got I got 1 real quick for him because Mike is a big j journalist. We know that. We respect him despite the fact that memes tries to slander him all the time. We always have your back, Mike. But how can you claim to be neutral if you show up on a national sports podcast wearing a Minnesota Viking shirt?

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Why do

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first question, why do you hate the Detroit Lions?

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Yeah. That's a good question. That's well done. I I wear what they send me. If the Lions wanna send me something, I'll wear it.

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I've gotten stuff from the Buccaneers. I've gotten stuff from the Eagles. Now this week, I don't know if I had something with the Lions. I'm not sure that I would wear it. You know, I I used to wrestle with this idea that we have to appear neutral at all times.

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But over time, I've realized that from Greenie to you to Berman I don't know who Berman. Berman loves the Bills like

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What an honor to be included in

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that group. Yeah. But people people don't shy away from whatever it is that drew them to the NFL in the 1st place. We're not Rob Lowe. We didn't start following the NFL because we're fans of the NFL.

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We all had a team and mine is very deep seated 50 plus years. I saw those purple helmets. I didn't know what the thing on the side was but I loved it. I love Chuck Foreman. I love Fran Tarkenton.

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So the the rare good years take me back to when I was, like, 9 or 10 years old.

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Well, they have they they are having an incredible year. Obviously, that game on Sunday night against the lions to decide the 1 seed, but the question I have for you, and I think you probably have more intel than we do, what are the Vikings gonna do with Sam Darnold?

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The Vikings would tell you they'll make their decision when they have to. And that sounds like a smart ass remark, but they don't have to do anything for now. And they always have the franchise tag available. If they would try to work out some sort of deal with now at 1 point I thought they would let him go see what else is out there because there aren't a lot of teams that will be definitely looking for a new starter and would pay someone starter money on the open market. Also, I think there's a general sense that Sam Darnold's performance, at least as of a few weeks ago, might have been artificially boosted by Kevin O'Connell and that you can't replicate that with another team.

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But something happened, I'd say in the second half of the game against the Cardinals where Darnold accessed a higher level of performance and when you hear what Kevin O'Connell says, when you see that video where they went nuts and dumped water all over him after the win against the Packers, they can't let him out of the building. Jason Garrett turned to me at 1 point, I think even before that game, and said that you can't let this guy leave. Everybody's looking for a franchise quarterback. When you have a guy who's playing like a franchise quarterback, you can't let him leave. They can figure out whatever they're gonna do with JJ McCarthy.

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If they have to franchise tag him, so be it. If they can work out a contract, so be it. But you can't let him go when he's when he's gotten as good as he's gotten in his 1st year in the system because he'll be even better next year.

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Yeah. Do you think there's a chance that they would potentially trade JJ McCarthy, especially because this quarterback class feels like 1 of those quarterback classes where obviously, teams are gonna talk themselves into a a few guys, but it's not maybe like last year where there was 5 or 6 guys that went in the top 15. So is there a chance they trade JJ McCarthy?

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I think all options will be on the table if and when they decide Sam Darnold is the guy. He's only 27. I

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know.

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He feels like he's been around forever and he turns 28 next June. So this is a guy you could have for 5, 7, 10 years. And you drafted JJ McCarthy because you're looking for a franchise quarterback and then 1 kinda stumbled into your lap. So if there's a team out there that's willing to make the Vikings an offer that they won't refuse, then then you you do it. If it gives you opportunities to get young players, cheap players, high draft picks, If you can do that, then it's easy to justify.

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And look at what the 40 niners did. They gladly threw Trey Lance overboard because they stumbled into Brock Purdy. And you know, there's no 1 to blame. Shit happens. Yeah.

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We we stumbled into Brock Purdy and he's so good that we can't let him go. We can't bench him. We can't go with Trey Lance. So they give Trey Lance away for nothing in comparison to what they gave up to get him. And I think the Vikings get a hell of a lot more for JJ McCarthy than the 49ers got for Trey Lance, if that's what they decide to do.

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Or they could just play it out a couple of years. Yeah. You couldn't let Donald be the starter for 2 more years, let McCarthy learn for a total of 3 years, and then flip the McCarthy at the appropriate time. What would that be? 2027, McCarthy becomes the starter.

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That's another option that I think is on the table. Yeah.

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I I don't

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know why they would get rid of him right now unless a team came in and offered a high first round pick form. Outside of that, I I don't get why the Vikings would move on.

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And there there's an argument out there that the Vikings should tag and trade Sam Darnold and just go with McCarthy. But the big unknown with McCarthy is we don't even know if he can play. Yeah. He's like any other unscratched lottery ticket at this point. We know Darnold can play.

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We don't know that McCarthy can. So it becomes dangerous to move on from Donald and hand the

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ball to McCarthy. Although I think O'Connor would do

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a pretty good job of getting the most out of McCarthy if he had to.

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Yeah. I agree with that. So, you you mentioned Trey Lance. Is there any chance that Trey Lance gets meaningful minutes this weekend?

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Isn't it weird that they they just refuse to use him? At 1 point, I thought it was a bizarre sort of, we don't want people to realize how good he is so we can sign him back to be the backup next year. But at some point, it's just ridiculous.

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Yeah.

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You

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just put the guy out there. There. His contract expires after this season. He's gonna be a free agent. And, I mean, Cooper Rush hasn't been bad.

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And Cooper Rush has a good 1 loss record. But it's just odd to me that Trey Lance hasn't been able to earn playing time. And I don't know what the Cowboys' ultimate motivation is and, you know, who knows what they're gonna do. And I think Jerry Jones loves the fact that we don't know what they're gonna do. And and we talk about what they're gonna do.

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Whether it's about Trey Lance, whether it's about Mike McCarthy, whether it's about anything, he just wants to give us things to talk about.

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Yeah. Yeah. So with Mike McCarthy, I mean, people have been talking about, like, getting fired. Mike McCarthy is is contract expires. So after the end of the season, what does that process look like?

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Or are they gonna start negotiating, or are they gonna just be like, do you think they'll just say, hey, Mike. Nature ran its course. Good luck. Godspeed. See you around.

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Jerry Jones has said that it's something that will be a topic next week and they love to take over the news cycle if they can. I could see Jerry Jones dropping his decision on Mike McCarthy during a playoff game or right before a playoff game. Remember the Dak Prescott contract, the news of that hit during the pre game shows before the 1st Sunday of the regular season. He knows how to commandeer the news cycle and I think at some point next week, we'll find out whether or not McCarthy's coming back. But because that contract expires, Mike McCarthy if he wants to when you think about everything Jerry Jones has put him through, forcing him to coach out his contract, saying I think people work better if they're under pressure, and all the other crap that he's had to deal with.

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Wouldn't it be great if somebody else was interested in Mike McCarthy and he just said to Jerry Jones, I don't want your job. Go find somebody else. And and Jerry would like at least the dance, at least the drama because he loves it when the cowboys are able to consume our attention even in a year when they're horrible, not horrible, but they're worse than they were expected to be. They're still commanding our attention. But McCarthy will be a free agent and could go anywhere he wants.

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So when does he hit free agency? When is his contract expired?

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They draft the contracts so that they usually expire in February or something like that. I can't imagine he wouldn't be available to talk to other teams right away, that he that he would need some sort of dispensation from the league. I but because it happens so rarely, it's a great question, and I'm gonna make a mental note to find out exactly when. He gives a free agent. We assume it's after the game.

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But that's a good question. Your instincts are good for you, Jay.

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Great question. Yeah.

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That, son. You make me proud, Internet son. This is our 2025. But I just I assume that he's free and clear, but he might not be because these contracts are written to expire at a certain date usually after the regular season ends. And he may be he may be strapped if the cowboys wanna play hardball.

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I feel like it would be after the Super Bowl. Right? Like, in the event that the cowboys have made the Super Bowl this year, you don't wanna lose your coach in January.

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But you could also do the you could do But

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if you're done Yeah. If you're done, obviously, if you're still alive, he's not gonna get hired out from under you in the playoffs. Right. But when you're done, does it end then or is there some artificial buffer that gives the Cowboys exclusive negotiating rights while all the other jobs fill up. It's like, hey.

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Sorry, Mike. There's no other jobs out there for you. You gotta take our offer.

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Yeah. Is he just gonna have to go into the office and just kinda sit in his room and just wait wait for Jerry to call him into his office?

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Hope someone talks to him.

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Yeah.

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Mike, I hate to bring up my bears because they're so goddamn bad, but this recent report is making me very nervous, and I want you to tell me it's not true. I heard through the grape fire, I saw it on online, and who knows, that Ryan Poles is trying to softly push the bears away from potentially hiring Ben Johnson because Ben Johnson would kick out Ryan Poles, and it looks like Ryan Poles might try to hire Brian Flores who was a a teammate of Ryan Poles at at Boston College for a year, which would be the death of Caleb Williams of Brian Flores. I mean, what he did to Tua. What what's going on? What what the fuck is going on?

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Why can't they just do something right and just be like, hey. We have a clean slate. Get rid of Ryan Poles. Let a coach come in. Let him bring the person that he wants to bring in.

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Have them both lockstep for once for once have it be clean and everyone going in the same direction.

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Right after they fired Matt Eberflus, I started poking around to figure out what the bears would be doing, where they'd be looking, what their focus would be be would become. And I I was told in no uncertain terms, their number 1 objective is to get the most out of Caleb Williams over the long haul. They view him as a franchise quarterback. They just need to get the most out of him. And the person I spoke to cause that caused me to say, so you're getting an offensive guy.

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You gotta get an offensive guy because otherwise you get a defensive coach who hires an offensive coordinator, things start going well, the offensive coordinator says see you later, I'm gonna go be a head coach somewhere else. Find another offensive coordinator to get the most out of Caleb Williams. You want a Sean Payton Drew Brees situation, I was told they're not closing any doors when it comes to which side of the ball the coach comes from. But, yeah, offensive coach seems to be the the message that that the Bears are sending as it relates to this desire to get the most out of Williams. But these Palace intrigue questions are real.

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We've seen them before and Ryan Pohl isn't gonna wanna hire the guy that's going to eventually push him out the door. He doesn't want a guy that he's not gonna be on the same page with who's gonna come in, have success, and try to take over. And it's critical that the GM and the head coach be on the same page. They should have equal accountability. There should be no avenue for the GM to try to undermine the coach if things are going poorly.

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No avenue for the coach to undermine the GM. And that's unfortunate if if that's true, and I saw that as well. If Ryan Pauls is gonna be disinclined to go after Ben Johnson because he wants to protect his own turf, that's when you have to ask the tough question. Do we just hit the reset button here?

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But they won't.

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Do a clean sweep.

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That's what a real organization would do, but they won't. Like, it's such an awkward to have a GM who's on the hot seat interviewing for a coach. Like, it makes no sense. Why can't they I know the answer why, but, like, the the the most logical thing is if if you have even doubts about Ryan Pohlz, just get rid of him right now. Make it it's the same as Matt Eberflus last year when you kept him even though there was doubts, and he could've gotten Harbaugh or someone else.

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Like, just do the right thing. Otherwise, you're gonna get a coach and then fire the GM in a year, and then it's gonna be the whole thing again.

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Well, what's harder to find? A good GM or a good head coach? What's more important? A good GM or a good head coach?

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Coach? I actually don't know.

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I don't know the I honestly a good coach.

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The the A good coach goes a long way toward making up for bad personnel decisions. But Look at Bill Belichick. Look at he was such a good coach. He was able to make up for shitty personnel decisions that he made.

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But but the real answer is and I I kind of agree. I would lean towards coach, but the real answer is a coach and a GM who work well together.

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Right.

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That's the real answer. It's the 2 guys who are gonna be working and their vision is the same because you can't have a GM who's got a 1 vision for the team and a coach who's got a different like, that will never work, and that's what the bears are gonna end up doing.

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Well and that's why I think Bill Belichick ultimately had no 1 interested in him because even if he comes back without final say over personnel, okay, fine. This GM who's 30 years younger than him is gonna draft a guy that Belichick doesn't want so Belichick's gonna put him at the bottom of the depth chart. There's a lot of ways that the coach and the GM can butt heads if they don't have a shared vision for the players they need, the systems they run, and equal accountability so we either both fail or we both succeed. Right. So look, if there's any truth to an idea that Ben Johnson wants to make a power play on the way through the door or he'll make 1 once he gets some wins and that creates hesitation.

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If there's anything other than making the bears as good as they can be that's influencing these decisions, that's a sign of a dysfunctional team. Because as you said years ago, and I use it all the time and I attribute it to as much as I can, dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things.

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Every time. Every time they get a chance. Alright. So, the current openings, we know the current openings, the saints, the bears, the jets. What other openings are there gonna be come Black Monday?

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Who who is who is you're hearing right now is is gone?

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You know, there isn't, like, a clear obvious list of of definite openings. We've been waiting for Jacksonville ever since their bye week. And it felt like it was a done deal going into the bye week. For whatever reason, Sean Khan, the owner of the team, didn't fire Doug Peterson then, but it was such a bad season. Can't imagine him coming back for another year, especially after Colin in late August said, this is the best team the Jaguars have ever compiled.

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How do you live with that statement and say, oh, it's fine that we were 4 and 13 or whatever their record is. So I think Jacksonville's at the top of the list. New England is 1 to watch, although I think Jerrod Mayo is gonna get another year. Devin McCourty was on PFT live on Tuesday and he spent some time around that team this year and he got the impression that guys in the building aren't sure what's gonna happen. So if Jerrod Mayo is safe, he hasn't gotten the memo yet.

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And I don't know what the Patriots are thinking there, but they could decide, in theory, they could decide to just rip the band aid off and move on after 1 year and try to hire somebody like a Brian Flores whose ship seemingly will be coming in this year, whether it's Chicago, whether it's New England, whether it's somewhere else. The other ones that would stand out, and I'm running through the divisions in my mind here, We look at the Giants Mhmm. As a place where how can you justify doing nothing if you're John Mara when they had 1 of the worst seasons in franchise history? What a way to celebrate your 100th anniversary as an organization with your franchise record longest losing streak. If they lose on Sunday, it'll be the record for the most losses in a season.

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And those are those are the big ones. The Colts are another 1 that I think has come onto the radar screen recently. And I was asking someone today who's among the pool of candidates to take these jobs and the message I got is there's always a few surprises.

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Right.

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And that's got me wondering what people on the inside who are in the process of being, you know, interviewed at some point, whether they might know about where things are gonna pop open. But we see it every year. It's a surprise when there isn't a surprise Yeah. Opening during that hiring cycle.

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Alright. So the 2 other teams that you didn't mention, 1 is the Arizona Cardinals. Is there any chance that they move on from Gannon there? And then the second is the Raiders. Is it Well, I didn't

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mention the Raiders and I should have because it feels like something's gonna happen in Las Vegas. But I you have to factor in the owner. And Mark Davis tolerated losing football under Jon Gruden because Jon Gruden was his buddy. And if Antonio Pierce is now Mark Davis' buddy, Mark Davis will tolerate losing football because there's multiple ways to define success as an NFL team. 1 is how much money are you making?

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And the Raiders are making more money than they ever have before because they're in Las Vegas. They got that prime market and they're making a ton of money. Stadium's always full even if it's not Raiders fans so I don't know what his tolerance is for being perpetually a non contender. If it's high, if if it's higher than it seems then Antonio Pierce is out after 1 year. But that 1 is weird especially when you throw in the Tom Brady

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Mhmm.

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Influence or lack thereof. And when will Tom Brady be more involved and Mark Davis says we're not gonna bother him while he's still working for Fox and they've got the Super Bowl. So that 1, it's just kind of got a weird vibe to it because you don't know what the owner really wants. With the Cardinals, you look at a 105 years, they've never had a coach longer than 6 seasons. They've had 2 guys, Jim Hannifin and Ken Wisenhunt made it 6 seasons.

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Nobody else made it that long. Gannon's got 2 years. This year was a disappointment relative to how they started. I think he gets 1 more year but that's the thing with these jobs. You always have to factor in ownership because it's 1 group, typically 1 person making the decision and you can have, you know, 10 people make 10 different decisions in with the same set of facts.

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Yeah. What I love about you, Mike, is you've been all over the Tom Brady rules. So, like, every time, there's a a seeming conflict of interest, I feel like I hear it from you. So what's the latest on that? What what was he allowed to do last week that he should have been allowed to do?

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Well, he's 1 of the voters. Uh-huh. Thank you.

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No. It's it's it's it's great. You're on top of it.

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You're an important voice because nobody else

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is doing it. I know

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we live in a time where standards don't matter anymore and just do whatever you wanna do. Yes. You know, just, it doesn't care, nobody cares. But when you think about this, the idea that any owner of an NFL team would have a vote on league wide awards, it's preposterous. It would never even be a conversation.

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It would, it's and no 1 would ever even have the the guts to suggest it. And with Tom Brady, what I can't understand is, is he like the NFL's version of Michael Scott who has no self awareness whatsoever, or is he hyper aware of the fact that he can do whatever the fuck he wants and he's gonna do it?

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I think I think that

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1 probably that. Yeah. But there's a chance he just kinda he just kinda you know, nobody ever tells me no, so I'm just gonna do whatever I wanna do, and I never stop to think that there might be some ramifications here that that are a bad look for

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me. Yeah. I mean, the conflict of interest thing is interesting because everybody we all have our biases. You're you're wearing a Minnesota Vikings shirt right now. Could we still allow you 1 of my take?

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It's 1 thing to be a fan of a team and set that aside when it's time to do the right thing. It's another thing to have a fiduciary duty to that team as a part owner who holds 10% of the equity. It's impossible. You know, when I practice law, there are 2 types of conflict of interest.

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Wait. You practice law? Shut

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up. There I I mean, I I might just if I just say it without the the the setup, people will think, what the fuck does this guy know shut up about the legal system? There are certain conflicts of interest that can be waived once the client understands what they are, and then there are some that just cannot be waived. And the idea that an owner would be voting on league wide awards, that seems to be a non waivable inherent conflict of interest. And I think after the season, the AP will find a way to clean it up.

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I think it just fell through the cracks. And it wasn't until last week that they were like, oh shit, he still has a vote and he's officially an owner now.

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Yeah. I mean, I'm a part owner of

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the Green Bay Packers, but I'm still right I'm I'm right down the middle Yeah. When we talk or Goldfish was on.

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Buy about 300,000 more shares.

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Well, Mike, is there a team so we we talked about all the openings we think, and you you alluded to it. Like, there's always could be a surprise. Last year, Pete Carroll was a little bit of a surprise.

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Yeah. A big surprise.

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Right. So is there a team that you're maybe even heard a little bit of rumblings where it's like, they don't know what they're gonna do?

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It's not a matter of rumblings. It's just a matter of feel. And it's a matter of what patterns have we seen in the past, you know. And it also depends on how the playoffs go.

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Yeah. If the

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and I don't wanna turn this into a bigger thing than it would be but, you know, there have been occasions in the past where maybe it's run its course between the Ravens and John Harbaugh.

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Mhmm.

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And there's been rumblings in the past at times that maybe it's time for a fresh start for everyone. If they go 1 and done in the playoffs this year, would that vibe return? I wouldn't rule it out. Yeah. Last year, Mike Tomlin, there was a lot of what's he gonna do and we reported at the time that that he wasn't gonna make any decisions until their playoff run was over and when it ended, he made a pretty quick decision to come back.

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If they go 1 and out again, does he continue to renew his vows with the Steelers? I I don't know. There isn't the same noise this year as there was last year, but you just never know when everything's gonna align and it's it's either the guy wants out or the team wants to make a change. And there's only so many years that I think a guy can make it. It's amazing how long Harbaugh and Tomlin have been where they are in today's NFL.

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Yeah. And and sometimes you can just make the argument for both sides that it it makes sense to have a fresh start. I'm not saying it's gonna happen. I'm just saying that's how surprises happen because things go on behind the scenes unrelated to losses, unrelated to failed performance that that caused people to say, we just need to do something else here.

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What about the Cleveland Browns? We we both love Stefanski. We think he's a great coach. Things have been very weird in Cleveland this season. It's just been a weird year, like, I don't I don't know what type of decision making was going on behind the scenes, how they were determining who the starting quarterback was gonna be week to week.

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But, is there any chance that Stefanski gets the ax?

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My read on the Brown situation is pretty simple. A couple of years ago, what was it, 2022, they got into the Deshaun Watson pursuit. There were 4 teams. And credit to the text, they they they took a situation where a guy hadn't played football in a year. And they created a 4 team competition

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Yeah.

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For his services.

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Mhmm.

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And they, like, prequalify them for the loan when you're buying a house. Like, you had to tell us ahead of time what you're gonna give us in trade and we have to say it's okay. And once we know it's okay, we'll let the 4 of you figure it out with Deshaun Watson as to where he's gonna go. And it was the Browns, the Panthers, the Saints, and the Falcons. And once it got out that the Browns were involved, that destroyed their relationship with Baker Mayfield.

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And then Deshaun Watson said to the Browns before any of the teams, I'm not interested in you. So I think that's the moment that ownership said, forget it. We're gonna make this guy an offer that there's no way he's gonna say no to it. 5 years, 46,000,000 per year fully guaranteed and they've been working to justify that horrible contract and trade. 3 first round picks plus 3 other picks given up.

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Worst trade and signed deal in NFL history when you factor in what they gave up, what those guys could have been and the money that's tied their hands and the salary cap issues. I just think it's been stubbornness that's kept Deshaun Watson under center and I think Jimmy Haslam who's, I believe at the root of it, the owner of the team, I I think he's he's sufficiently flexible to realize it's not the fault of Andrew Berry, the GM, or Kevin Stefanski, the head coach. They were just doing what Jimmy Haslam wanted them to do. That that's happened before and it doesn't insulate people when it's time for folks to get fired. But Haslam's already indicated back in December that he's not gonna change coach or GM.

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That's not binding. But the Browns are kind of off that radar screen because of the things Haslam had said. But dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things. Yep. And maybe Jimmy Haslam wakes up 1 day next week and says, screw it.

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I'm gonna get a clean sweep here and start over.

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And and, I mean, Stefanski, I feel like would get a job right away. I mean, he's he's a phenomenal he's a 2 time coach of the year. Like, he he took the Browns to playoffs for the first time in forever. I just he he's been he's been put in a situation that I don't think is fair to him.

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Yeah. I don't know that it would be the same as if, like, a Mike Tomlin got fired. I think if Mike Tomlin would ever get fired or leave Pittsburgh, they'd be lining up out the door to try to hire Mike Tomlin. But 2 time coach of the year, you're right. But that that's a misleading award.

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Coach of the year just means you're the head coach of the team that surprised us the most. Yeah. Maybe he went on. Do anything good. It's a surprise.

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So let's make him coach of the year. But still, to to do well amid the dysfunction that is the Cleveland Browns is impressive.

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Yeah. Where's Mike Frable gonna coach next year? Because it feels like he has maybe not by his own choosing because I probably think I think he probably wanted a job last year. But what's happened in this year off is he's basically got every team has been linked to him in some way, and it feels like he will be at the top of the list, he and Ben Johnson to pick wherever they wanna go.

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That's been the vibe for about a month now that the 2 no brainers who will have options to coach next year are Ben Johnson and Mike Vrabel. Beyond that, we just don't know how it's gonna shake out. And Vrabel has been linked to the Raiders because once Tom Brady is done with his season and he's whispering into Mark Davis's ear, Vrabel is the guy that Brady would want because they're friends and it goes back years. There's a point Sims has made and I think he's right. I think Vrabel would

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be

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perfect for 1 of the New York teams because Vrabel's got the right personality to deal with the New York fans Mhmm. And the New York media. It's almost like Parcells where he just doesn't fuck around and and he and he can he can be abrasive in a charming way. That's how Parcells was. Like, he he'd say things that were hostile, but it was kinda funny.

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And I think Vrabel would be good if he wants to subject himself to that. I don't know. Do you wanna subject yourself to being the head coach of the Jets? Do you wanna be the head coach of the Giants? I don't know.

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But I think a guy like Vrabel, there aren't many guys like this, he would do well in that market. And I think both of those teams need to be considering very seriously trying to make a run at Vrabel because that may be exactly what they need to stabilize things in the eyes of the media and the eyes of the fans.

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Yeah. Has he lost weight this off season so he's less intimidating?

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Well, who who was it that

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wasn't that 1 of the

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justifications for firing him in Tennessee with some weird shit like that? Not again. Dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things. I think Brian Callahan could be done in Tennessee just because look at how erratic they've been and look at the rash decisions they've made in Nashville with head coaches. They never should have fired Mike Vrabel, but I I think Vrabel offended the the the owner in some way.

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And, hey, that's that's the reality of working for a mom and pop shop multibillion dollar football operation that's run like a family food truck. Yeah. They hit them. Not just that 1.

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No. I mean, the Bears are the same way where they would I don't think they'd hire Mike Vrabel because he he's too much of an alpha, and George McCasky would have to, like, hide under his desk every time

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he walked down the hall.

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I I think

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you're right about him in the New York market though because he has a way of he'll be, like, a little bit hostile, but it'll still give you good copy as a reporter.

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Yeah.

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Like, the headlines will be funny and entertaining.

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And he wouldn't be bothered by it.

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Yeah. He wouldn't be

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bothered by it either. Yeah. We've made him an offer if he wants to come to Chicago. We offered what was it? Wednesdays on part of my take?

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Wednesdays on part of

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my take. Do an, yeah, exclusive interview. Hank is his butler. Yep. We've got we've given him a lot of options.

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So Chicago is in play for Mike Vrabel right now.

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Hey. Actually, this just popped my head. I hope this is not gonna be the case, but, our colleague, Jon Gruden, is there anyone who's kicking the tires on that? I know, obviously, if Gruden wants to take a job, I I would I'd be very happy selfishly want him to stay at Parcel.

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His name has been on the fringes of the chatter for 2 months now. The here's the reality, though. Set aside the emails. And, you know, it's been 3 years and we've seen people come back from from worse than the emails. And I'm not justifying it, I'm just saying, the passage of time causes things to dissipate.

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He still has active litigation against the NFL and Goodell. So what you have and we talked about the Browns earlier. When they made that big contract offer to Deshaun Watson, it pissed everyone off because now we gotta have more guaranteed contracts for quarterbacks. There's still an arbitration that's looming or pending over not giving players guaranteed contracts thanks to what the Browns did. If you hire Gruden, you're gonna have some pissed off people at 345 Park Avenue, headlined by the guy that runs the show whose name's on every football.

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So you better be damn sure that this is something that's gonna work because there's gonna be blowback 1 way or the other. And maybe they settle the case beforehand. I don't know. But it's it's a lot there and this

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is the other side of it too.

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And I love Gruden, I love Gruden. But when you start looking at his his history as a coach

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Sounds like you don't love Gruden.

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Okay. I I've defended him vehemently in this litigation.

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It's put your gun up, Max. Go ahead. Continue. But it sounds like you're about to say something that you Alright. Pifty put your gun up.

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Go ahead.

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Hey. Hey. Just just let me say this. Look at his regular season win percentage, compare it to Jeff Fisher's. It's all I'm saying.

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Also, a great

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head coach,

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dog on. I got another gun.

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Listen. And and compare Mike McCarthy's win loss percentage Fat. To Gruden's. It's all

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I'm saying. That's the difference. Fat.

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Alright.

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Okay. So you're saying actually,

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I mean, a guy that has a

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pending lawsuit against the NFL would be a perfect fit for the Raiders. Yeah. Maybe you could do the Raiders. Shouldn't it

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be something if if Mark Davis hired him back?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Let me just say this too because I don't think people understand this. In this age of legalized gambling, somebody decided 5 games into a season in 2021 to peel off emails and to weaponize them to get Jon Gruden fired.

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Yeah.

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Forget about whether it was right or wrong. Somebody fucked with the integrity of a season 5 games into it. I mean, if you had a futures bet on the Raiders to make the playoffs, although they did, win the Super Bowl, whatever the case may be, they're always so big on the integrity of the season. Somebody connected to the NFL and not many people had access to those emails. Specifically said, I want this guy out 5 games in and that's something that I hope his lawsuit goes forward and we find out who did it because I think there's a lot of accountability there that may never be properly meted out and and hashed out because that's as wrong as it gets as it relates to the overall integrity of a given football season to take out a team's head coach 5 games into it.

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If you were a betting man, would you say that there would be good odds on somebody whose name rhymed with Spruce Fallon that was behind the leaking of that email?

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I don't know that it was him. I don't know. Because look, the the accusation is it was the league and that Goodell was part of it. And until we get a chance to see how the lawsuit plays out, we won't know. It shouldn't be hard to recreate who it was that took those emails and sent them to the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal with the clear goal of taking out Gruden.

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It could have been Dan Snyder. It could have been Roger Goodell. I don't know that Bruce Allen even had access to those emails by then. The the, you know, because what happened was they had the investigation. What's her name?

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Beth Wilkinson. She did her investigation. They had the emails. Somebody who had access to the 600,000 documents found those, removed those, leaked those, and took out Groot.

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Mhmm. Mike. I forgot the question I was gonna ask.

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Mike. Fuck.

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Wait. Hold on.

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I got I got I got a good 1. I got a good 1. Let me know because I I'm ready to fire.

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You're getting old. You're getting 50 this year. You're brainstorming.

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Shut the fuck up. You're, like, 85 years old. Go, PFT.

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Mike, did you wanna wish us happy birthday month?

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Happy birthday month. Thank you. Happy birthday month.

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Happy birthday to you. Great question. How is

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it that big cats gonna be 50, but you're only gonna be 40? I don't understand how that works.

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It's crazy. It's weird. Yeah. You agent dad years.

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So You're short. You got a short face, Mike. You got a short face. I, I have I have

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a real question for you. You you talked about playoff teams. Sometimes there's a disappointment in the playoffs and a team decides to move on. Last year, there was a lot of buzz around, the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Mhmm.

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If if it's like a bad loss. Mhmm. I'm not saying that's I'm not saying Sirionis had a bad season. He's had a very good season, in fact. And he's a great guy and he's a bad loss.

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And he's a good friend to Max.

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Yeah. But a bad loss.

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But if

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he has a real bad loss. Real bad loss.

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Like a blowout, like the Packers roll in there and he, like, cries at halftime. They forget how to hike. And tries to fight Matt LaFleur. Mhmm. You know, and it's embarrassing and they lose by 30, 40 points.

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Yeah. You think there's any chance that Philadelphia moves on from them?

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They had a real bad loss last year though. And before they had the real bad loss to Tampa Bay 32 to 9 in the wild card round, they lost all those games down the stretch. But for, what was it? The Christmas day game against the Giants. They lost all their games after starting 10 and 1 and it didn't happen then.

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Remember that shot of Jeff Lohrey sitting in the suite

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Who could forget?

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In Tampa Bay. It was like this perfect combination of rage and amazement and confusion all in 1 and we were waiting to see whether or not they'd fire him and try to go after Bill Belichick. It didn't happen then. I think they've been good enough now that even if they get blown off the field and and do you really think I got I I they're 1 of the most talented teams out there. I I can't imagine that happening, but but there's just enough weirdness that happens with Sirianni.

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You know, the stuff with Zach Ertz, giving the fans the business after the Browns game. What else? There was some there was a clip after 1 of the games where, like, he was trying to talk to somebody on the sidelines and they were, like, openly ignoring him. Like, there's just enough weird there that makes you wonder how sustainable it is. But then you look at the record, That's the thing.

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Look at the record. He's damn good. Is there is there a situation where they're good despite him and they'd be even better with somebody else? I don't think Jeffrey Lawrie wants to, you know, roll those dice.

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Yeah. I've remembered my question, Mike. After LeBron said that the NBA owns Christmas day, how many games are we gonna get on Christmas day next year in the NFL?

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It's just gonna be it's gonna be a continuous loop. It's gonna be all day Christmas eve and all day Christmas day. Look. The numbers speak for themselves. And I I don't know what the numbers would have been if the 2 games on Netflix had been on broadcast TV.

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Would they have hit 30,000,000? Would they have been 35,000,000? We got 38.9 or 39,800,000 who watched Giants, Cowboys, a shit Thanksgiving game in that middle window. These were real games. Steelers, Chiefs, real game.

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Ravens, Texans, I mean, until they started playing it, real game. If those would have been on regular TV, the numbers would have been even worse. And the NFL went easy on them. They didn't play on New Year's on Christmas Eve, and they didn't play a great a game on Christmas night.

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I think the bottom line

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is Christmas football is here to stay. Mhmm. Whatever day of the week, Jerry Jones made it clear last week. We already knew. They're gonna play whenever Christmas is.

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Wednesday is the hardest day to pull it off. The other days they're gonna do it. Here's the question I have. Because in the past, when Christmas lands on a Sunday, they play the bulk of the games on Saturday. I wonder if the next time Christmas lands on a Sunday, it's not for like another 10 years, will they just say fuck it.

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We're doing our regular schedule on Sunday. We're where everybody's in the pool. It's Christmas. It's a Sunday. We're not gonna shy away from that.

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We're gonna completely and totally own it.

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That would rock.

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That would yeah. Maybe. I I feel like they'd probably stick to the Saturday, though.

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They would probably split it evenly.

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Yeah. Because you want it to be, like, appointment television for certain games on Christmas. Otherwise Or it's

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just your full blown schedule. Think about it. Your full blown schedule on a day when everybody is is home and everybody's looking for something to do. Let's tune into red zone. Let's flip on this game.

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Let's go. I mean, the numbers could go through the roof in comparison to what they ordinarily are, but it's not like until 2033 or something like that. So, you know, some of us will be dead by then.

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Do you think Goodell, like, sees that from LeBron and is like, oh, okay. Like, get ready get ready to learn, like, cowboys, eagles, bills, chiefs. Like, we're gonna fucking drop the hammer next year.

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I I think it's like the the old line from mad men when Jon Hamm says, I don't even think about you.

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Okay. I

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think that's his reaction. Yeah.

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Yeah. But I think he he would say that, but I think he really does think about the NBA. He wants to just twist that knife. That they put on streaming so you couldn't even change the channel. Yeah.

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You couldn't even you couldn't even flip over to the NBA games.

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Yeah. And and it's gonna keep getting bigger and bigger. I mean, the NFL is by far the biggest attraction in the United States, and they wanna make it global. It's a 100 year thing. We'll definitely be dead by the time it comes to full bloom.

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But, you know, there would have been a time when people would have laughed at the idea of football overtaking baseball in the United States. And I'm sure deep down, they'd love to overtake soccer 1 of these days. That'll probably never happen, but I would have said the same thing in the seventies about baseball and football.

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Mhmm.

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Yeah. Crazy. So, alright. Playoffs coming up. What teams do you think can win the Super Bowl?

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Well, the Eagles, the Lions, the Chiefs, the Bills,

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the Ravens.

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The answer is every team that gets in the playoffs.

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No. Well yeah. I mean, technically, they chip fine.

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Chip in the chair. You've seen wild you've seen wild card teams win before, Mike.

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Fine. I know. But it feels like it feels like there's a cluster of teams that

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Yeah. No. You're right. Keep going. Sorry.

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I just had to throw that in there to because

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you said

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I was in the picture. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. I you know, I've dealt with

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you for so long.

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I know. I know. Smart ass, it doesn't even register anymore. There's no dominant team. The Lions had some dominant wins earlier in the year.

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They beat the Jaguars, like, 52 to 6. They blew the Cowboys off the field. But since Thanksgiving, when the Bears almost forced overtime, remember that game when the Bears, like, fucked

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up the clock, man? They're tough to deal with.

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They've been in close games pretty much every week since then. There is no team that's just gonna show up and kick your ass like the 85 Bears. There's nothing close to that. So, I mean

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You're gonna have Chiefs fans manager. Yeah. You're gonna have Chiefs fans manager.

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Less. Very well. Less.

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I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm trying to help you out,

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Mike, because you're gonna get a lot of shit from Chiefs fans.

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But they don't but they don't blow anybody out. The win over the Steelers was the most impressive win of the year by 19 points.

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But all they gotta do is win 1 game to get to the Super Bowl. 2. Well, I mean, they're the no. No. I have no I I'll say right now, they're in the AFC championship game.

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Well, what if the Bengals show up?

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I don't think they're worried about the Bengals. The Bengals are not a good football team. Joe Burrow in that offense is phenomenal and out of this world. Their defense is trash. The fact that they need not not only to win, but they need 2 other games to go their way, Doesn't that tell you what type of team they've had as a season?

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Oh, absolutely. But, also, Joe Burrow, like, transforms into a next level superhero when the playoffs roll around, and he's gone toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes multiple times. He's the only active player, only active quarterback who has beaten the Chiefs in the post season. It really is amazing though. And the Chiefs history and, you know, like, Mahomes doesn't make the Pro Bowl, which is laughable at 1 level, but you look at the numbers this year and you can see why he didn't.

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But his worst outcome since he became a starter in 2018 is losing in overtime of the AFC championship. That's his floor.

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Mhmm.

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I mean, for a lot of teams, they haven't even done that. For the Vikings, since 1976, their best case scenario is losing in overtime in the NFC championship once. Yeah. Mahomes has done it twice. That's his worst outcome.

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It's uncanny. So I agree it's gonna be very hard to go at Arrowhead Stadium and win, but they're not dominating people. That's the point. There's no 1 that's just showing up and kicking your ass each and every week.

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But here's the thing. The teams that they would have to play would be either the Bengals, the Dolphins, or maybe the Steelers. Right?

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Yeah. Or possibly the Chargers.

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And so Broncos Broncos or Chargers. Possibly the Broncos. Yeah. I feel like, you know, the the real matchup is them against the the Bills or them against the Ravens.

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Correct. I agree with you completely. And and they might work it in a way that they avoid both of them. Maybe the Bills and Ravens end up playing each other in the divisional round, so they only have to play 1

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of them. Mike, give me a path because I just wanna fantasize.

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Well, they they definitely won't have to play both of them. Oh, I guess

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if the Steelers

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win They definitely they they could end

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up they could end up drawing the Ravens in the divisional.

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So you think Bailey zappy is gonna beat Lamar Jackson? Well,

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no. Is it 17 and a half point last act

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of a clear tank? Yeah. It would be. Win with Bailey's happy.

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Because I do think the browns are, like, very live to get the ones 1 pick. I I don't think it's crazy for the browns to lose, the titans to win, and the patriots to win. The browns have the 1 pick. But yeah.

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I think the Browns want it.

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Yeah.

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The other teams, they don't care. The Browns, organizationally, top to bottom, they want it, and they've done a good job of positioning themselves for it. So you're right. You're right. They win the division.

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They won't meet in the divisional round, and it would be if the Ravens win and the Bills win in the wild card round, they'll end up playing each other in, in the divisional round, and the Chiefs will get the lowest team left. You're right.

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Mhmm. Mike, can I just fantasize? Just give me talk me through this. What is the what is the path that the commanders

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could make it to the Super Bowl?

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Well, if you can avoid the Eagles Mhmm. Which which is doable.

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I want Eagles. It's

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not crazy. It's not crazy. I mean, you you you can you you win and you don't have to go to Philadelphia. You're gonna go to LA or Tampa. Right?

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Jaden Daniels, it feels like he's busted through the rookie wall. There was a period of time where he's either hurt or he's fatigued. Lately, he's been phenomenal. MVP chants He had some interceptions though.

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Don't forget about the interceptions.

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Well, it's alright. They're they're they're doing they're doing better than anyone expected, and they fought through that lull that they slipped into. They slipped into a spot where it's like okay, you know, the chariot's turned back into a pumpkin, it's over for the commanders. They came out the other side of it and they've been winning. And it seemed like that can be dangerous when when you get to the playoffs and you're on house money and you don't give a shit and you just go out and play and you have confidence that you can make it happen and Jaden Daniels has been, you know, better than anybody expected.

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When we were at the scouting combine and we were meeting with defensive players and we asked as many of them as we could remember to ask, who's the best guy you ever faced in college? The SCC guys all said without hesitation, Jaden Daniels. Because he's there and then he's gone. And we've seen it. We've seen it come to fruition.

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So with a guy like Jaden Daniels because when we see low seeds in the past make a deep run, the common denominator for those teams is to have a great quarterback. And even though he's a rookie, he's already in that list of great quarterbacks.

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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. They can make some noise.

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Push your pack.

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I think they can make

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some noise.

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From the Eagles. Stay away from the Eagles.

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Make some noise. If the Packers take out the Eagles in the 1st round, we beat the Bucks. Weird stuff starts to happen. It's not gonna happen this year, but it I just wanna I wanna think about it because

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You know, there's a way that the team that loses on Sunday night only has 1 road game in the playoffs. Oh. Because those wildcard teams could go in. You get the Packers at the Eagles, the the Packers could win. You get the the Commanders at the Bucks or the Rams, they could win.

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And then the 5 seed wins at the 4 seed, all of a sudden the teams left are 1, 5, 6, and 7. The 5 seats hosting the divisional round game. And if the the 7th seed upends the Vikings Alliance

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Yeah.

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The 5 seats hosting the NFC championship.

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Or the 6th seed host the NFC championship.

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That could happen.

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That's the path. That that is the path right there. Okay. Cool. Packers, Commanders at raaljohn.

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Yeah. That's it. And I'll be I'll I'll fucking wear your Sam Howell jersey. Yeah. Yeah.

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I'll fucking get into that. Alright. Mike, last question. By the way, everyone go to Amazon and buy Mike's book 99¢

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for the e book. You say the ebook. The The pre edition is at 99¢. Paper ain't free. My that was my New Year's resolution.

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My first 1 in 21 years. Because I wanna encourage people to read. People view reading as a chore. They view it as work. You do.

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I send you all my books. You never read them because you view it as work. You have association to school Mike. And you don't wanna do

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it. Mike.

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I'm trying to get people to read Mike. In 2025. Mike,

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I I not only didn't read it. I have even taken out of the package.

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Yeah. There you go.

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I've got it right behind me. I read the cover every day.

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Oh, thank

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I think it's a great book.

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Thank you.

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Because my friend made it.

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Yeah.

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So I and everyone should you know what? I pitch me real quick. No. No. No.

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No. No. No. No. Pitch me.

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1 of my New Year's resolutions is to read a book this year. Pitch me on your book.

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Okay. Father of mine is a mob tale set.

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Just kidding. I'm not reading it.

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West Virginia in Europe.

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Alright. Fuck you.

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Ask me about my fantasy team.

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Oh, we finished in, in 3rd place this year.

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Yeah. Yeah. We're a big fantasy podcast now.

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We are Jerry O'Connell's talk to actually, we might fire Jerry O'Connell and have his wife do it next year.

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Yeah. I feel like it

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should be good.

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Plea please do buy Mike's book. I'm gonna you know what? I'm gonna read 2 books this year, and 1 of them is gonna be father of mine.

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Well, read father of mine in the sequel. Once you finish Father of Mine, you'll wanna read the next 1.

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Sign me up for another 1?

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Wait. So what's the sequel?

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The sequel of Son of Mine.

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So basically, like, the old testament and the new testament.

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Exactly.

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Alright. The new 1.

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Now I'm doing the next 1, which I guess is essentially Revelation.

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They're Scientology. Everclear. You ever heard of, that band? Father of Mine. Great song.

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Yeah. Mhmm.

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It's a great title. Titles aren't protected by copyright law. You know how I learned that?

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How? Pardon my take. Paul.

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No. Oh. He's practicing law. I but I think there is some rules because we tried to make a book that's that was just a New York Times bestseller was the title.

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That's good. No. You can't. That's really good.

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You can't do that.

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Can you Mike, as a lawyer, could we name our book a New York Times bestseller by John Grisham?

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I By far

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my time.

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That would be I think that would probably be pushing the limits of the law. That would that would require what do they call that? It's a case of first impression.

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Ah, okay. All the

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way to the Supreme Court.

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It's looking for science.

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All over the world would be be studying it. Right. Harry

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Potter 9. Yeah.

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I'll take my take. Alright. But last question. Rhoback question. Rhoback.com.

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Actually, we didn't I don't know why we didn't do this. What's gonna happen with Aaron Rodgers and the jets?

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I think Aaron Rodgers doesn't wanna come back to the jets, but he wants them to be the ones that break up with him. He's been needling Woody Johnson. Every time he's on McAfee's show, he says some snarky thing about Woody Johnson. Now I might be fired by a teenager. I think he wants them to end it, and then he'll see if anyone out there really wants him.

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And if no 1 does, he's decided to retire. But if somebody that he deems worthy of his services wants him and and I'm fascinated by the possibility of him going to Pittsburgh.

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Mhmm.

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Remember that video of him and Mike Tom and kinda making googly eyes at each other and yeah, not you know, That's that like that Sopranos GIF where they're, you know, it's it's Christopher and, Patsy are doing this. I I feel like that tracks with what the Steelers are currently doing at quarterback which is we don't know how to develop 1. Let's just go find a veteran and plug him in. But if he finds a team that wants him and he wants to play for them, then he'll play for another team next year. And he'll use the jets not wanting him as a motivation even though I he says it, but I don't believe that he wants to play for the jets again.

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He knows what a shit show it is there.

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Aaron Rodgers and George Pickens.

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That would be fun. They don't speak

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the same language. That would be so fun. He did.

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He said it's the best 2 years of his life though in New York.

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Yeah. Yeah. Which tells you his priorities are completely out of whack. They were horrible. He was injured all of last year.

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They were horrible this year. How does that become the best year of your life when you won a Super Bowl and you're a 4 time MVP?

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I think it's just something you say. He's hung out with a lot of friends? Yeah. You just

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say it.

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What about Met away with great people.

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Here's a crazy 1, and we'll end with this because we gotta go watch, Notre Dame in Georgia. If Brock Purdy's elbows kinda fucked up, Aaron Rodgers finishes where the team that should've drafted him?

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No. No. Aaron Rodgers

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won't happen. Why not?

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I guarantee that won't happen. Why? I I I'll just say this. There are more than a few people around the league who have figured out Aaron Rodgers and want nothing to do with him.

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0. 0.

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0. Trouble in paradise. Oh. Kyle doesn't like Aaron. Oh.

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I didn't say that. I just said there's more than a few people who who know that you know, I I don't look, I'm I got enough problems.

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We got them in the spot.

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I got enough problems. But I think that I think there's a lot of coaches for whom it would be a hard sell and you better be damn confident that you can coexist with this guy and it's not gonna completely, you know, fuck up your life and get you fired 5 weeks into the season like it did Robert Saleh.

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Mhmm. Checks hire Mike McCarthy. Mhmm. Mike McCarthy, Aaron Reunite. Mhmm.

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We're in

[02:37:07]

Aaron Rodgers podcast. I don't know if you knew that.

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You know who you know who Kyle does

[02:37:14]

does like a lot? Kirk Cousins. What's gonna happen

[02:37:15]

with Kirk? What what are the possibilities for Kirk Cousins? I know where

[02:37:17]

I know where he's gonna go.

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Here here's what I think

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Heaven?

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Which is gonna Oh, he's

[02:37:21]

gonna go to heaven. Let me throw this 1 out there for you, Mike, real quick before you say, Vikings strayed JJ McCarthy for a second round pick and then they need a backup quarterback.

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No.

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Look, there aren't many guys who once they've been the highest paid player in the NFL who voluntarily accept being a backup. Flacco's like the only guy that's ever done that. Usually it's, hey, if I can no longer start, see you later. I'm out of here. I'm gonna go count my money.

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The thing with Cousins and this is why I think Rogers might have a future but Cousins won't. Both have the torn Achilles, Both have less mobility than they used to have. And again, Cousins never had much. Rogers still float throws it 40 yards on a on a dime with a flick of a wrist. Look at Cousins.

[02:38:03]

He's gotta, like, he's gotta, like, muster every ounce of energy in his body from his toes to his fingertips to try to throw the football. And his body eventually rebelled against him this year because he was compensating for the torn Achilles tendon. So I just it just got to a point where he just can't do it anymore. And I've talked to people who said, you know what? There's a chance it just never comes back for him.

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He could be done. Mhmm.

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But he still gets paid next year.

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Yeah. He does.

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He gets paid next year. He gets 27 and a half 1000000 next year. He made 62 and a half 1000000 next year regardless of what happens with the fact. The only way he'd lose it is is if he'd retire, and it is to be stupid to retire. You force him to cut you and you take your 27 and a half 1000000.

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Yeah. For Kirk. Alright. Mike, thank you as always. Can't wait to see you Super Bowl week.

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You're the best.

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Every time, and I never even hear from you Super Bowl week.

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So Because you get up to, like, you get up to ask crack at dawn to do your show with Phil Sims.

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Where are we this year? It's it's central time zone, so it won't be ask it won't be quite the ask crack at dawn.

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Yeah. Alright. Well, we'll paint it, Don. If you need a guest, PFT and I are are more than welcome to come on. You can't

[02:39:07]

get in. You can't get in the building.

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We have ways.

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You you can get us in. We have our listen. We have our way. Now. Gruner will get us in.

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Okay. Fire fest of the week, wrapping it up. Short week, boys. Hank. By the way, every week Woodhead's, chair.

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Yeah.

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Nice little addition to the studio.

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Yeah. It's

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got a new rug.

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How's it smell?

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It smells good. Smells fine.

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We used to smoke heaters in that van all the time. Mhmm.

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Corn cob pipes.

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Oh, yeah. Because that was RV.

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Yeah. That's better. That was when the RV the sewage tank overflowed. And so

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And we didn't have

[02:40:57]

the heat. And we didn't have air fresheners, so we figured 2 birds, 1 stone. We smoke corn quarticot pipes.

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Yeah. My Fireflies was just when I moved, I mean, there's not not a lot going on. I got my bag back, or it's it's I think I got my bag back.

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Yeah.

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I think it Found it. They're shipping it back.

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Okay. So it's not back yet, but it is your bag.

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Yeah. They've confirmed my bag. So I think that that was a good good good vibes going into the week. I just regret when I moved to