
NFL Week 14, Fastest 2 Minutes, Vikings For Real, Bears Still Suck, Seahawks Surging And The College Football Playoff Has Been Announced
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NFL Week 14, we start with fastest 2 minutes and then get into every game from Sunday (00:00:00-00:09:36)
Vikings 42, Falcons 21 (00:09:36-00:20:29)
Steelers 27, Browns 14 (00:20:29-00:26:08)
Eagles 22, Panthers 16 (00:26:08-00:35:00)
Bucs 28, Raiders 13 (00:35:00-00:43:25)
Saints 14, Giants 11 (00:43:25- 00:49:23)
Dolphins 32, Jets 26 (00:49:23-01:05:55)
Jaguars 10, Titans 6 (01:05:55-01:10:59)
Niners 38, Bears 13 (01:13:48-01:23:10)
Seahawks 30, Cardinals 18 (01:23:10-01:26:50)
Rams 44, Bills 42 (01:26:50-01:32:16)
Chiefs 19, Chargers 17 (01:32:16-01:39:23)
We finish with who's back of the week and talk College Football Bracket reveal (01:48:53-02:06:38).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
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On today's part of my take NFL week 14, we've got a lot to discuss. There were some stinkers. There also was the Bills Rams game, which was incredible. The Bears fucking suck. The Steelers and Vikings, I'm ready to start putting a lot more respect on their name.
We're also gonna talk a little, college football playoff because it did just come out, so we'll we'll maybe break down the bracket. I know we usually do Wednesdays, but feel like we have to do it today. We're gonna do who's back of the week, fastest 2 minutes. It's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. The NBA season is rolling along, playing pick 6 from DraftKings.
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The crown is yours. Today is Monday, December 9th, week 14. They're not gonna get them.
Some spread.
We start in Minnesota where Sam, hey, Darnold, played like a real football head or as we should call him mister win. The announcer started calling Darnold Tyreek Hill with how many times he he looked to add a son after Jordan scored 3 times on Sundays. Shirk responsibilities cousins look like Mincy out there sharing 2 bad picks and refusing to go anywhere but south as it may be time Atlanta to take out their Phoenix. Vikings 42, Falcons 21.
We go to Nashville, Tennessee where yesterday someone macked out my mural. That type of energy will make the Jags move to Europe. With no Ariana Blondey Trevor Lawrence, the Jags were aligned on their ground game saying, take you, next. Bigsby, Tony Hinchcliffe Pollard yet again roasted a giant pile of garbage known as the Jaguars d, while kicker Nick, folk around and had a triple double, making both field goals. Doug Skeetersen keeps edging delaying the firing that will never come.
Meanwhile, Brian Callahan job is struggling to maintain a firm grip, leaving many titans fans wondering if they could just do a better job themselves. Jaguars 10, titans 6, the jaguars.
Seemed to be playing like there was bad blood against AIDS and O'Connell, and were all smiles going giving HIV's. I'm sorry. That was Roman numerals. High fives on the sidelines. Desmond Ridder came on in relief.
The only thing Desmond does is rid of your team a chance of ever winning a football game again. Nice guy, though. Heard is a really nice guy.
Very nice guy.
Very nice guy. Bucks 28, Raiders 13, and we're staying in the state of Florida over to Means.
In Miami, this just in. Tyreek Hill has another BM, not baby mama. The dump he just left on the Jets. The Dolphins took a big number 2 on the Jets beating them in OT 32 to 26. Anders Carlson was a workaholic with 4 field goals and 2 extra points.
Aaron Kenny Rogers didn't play like a chicken today and got no help from running back. Brandon, dude, the chickens have large Allens who've look anything but dynamite. They need a win. Stop doing this voice. They need a win next week to prevent being the Rizzlers height.
3 and 11. Dalton 32, jet 26.
Oh, the Rizzler, my favorite guy in the world. Okay. We can head over to Max, Carolina, and Philadelphia.
We head to Philly where Bryce Neil Young was saying, there's a lot of people saying we won't touch the spread. Don't feel like the Giants, but I am to them. So I try to forget it any way I can. Keep on rocking in the green world. He found it.
He found it. And
and rock they did for most of this game, largely in part in part to Jake Malicek Elliott who had fans wondering, what is going on with NFL kickers? Trailing by 6, the Panthers had a chance to take the lead late in 4th, but Xavier Goussaguette ended with a 0 in the touchdown department after dropping the game winning score. Eagles 22, Panthers 16.
We go down to Glendale where the Cardinals dressed in all black and laid in wait for the Seattle CEO Hawks. But Kyler Murray misfired twice early and Zach Chardonnay made them whine as he barreled in for a couple sips pointers. Michael Jackson Smith and Jigba were singing Billy Geno's not my lover. He just a guy who once got punched in the jaw, but he likes throwing me the ball. Adding a score as the Seahawks escape like smooth criminals with a division win.
Seahawks 30, Cardinals 18. Staying out west
to San Francisco where clock birdie looked like Big Ben letting the bears know what time it was. Saying this is our game to lose and all the bears could do was watch. Clock birdie also looked like Big Ben stalling in the pocket until he got exactly what he wanted. George Lucas Kittle almost Obi won this game solo, mauling all over soft Bears defense. For those asking if the Niners are still good, yo.
Duh. While Caleb Williams couldn't compose a score, if you're asking what Brown can do for you, well, the answer is not win a football game as the bears lose again. Niners 38, bears 13. For the game of the day, Henry Lockwood was on the scene.
Yes. In Los Angeles, Kyran Sanat Williams said, thank you Bills for the 7 gifted points as he crossed over the goal line to get the scoring started. Josh Allen Ginsberg punched in a 1 yarder and then howled at the hostile Rams crowd. In the Q2, the Bills drop back to punt and it's blocked and scooped up by Hunter s Thompson Lung, and he was Gonzo into the end zone for another touchdown. Pookie Hochtua was pulling the rug from under the Bills d all day to the tune of a 162 yards and 2 scores as the Bills tried to mount a comeback.
Return of the Mac Collins caught a TD as did Khalil Shakiras whose hips did not lie. However, the Bills defense did, and they fall in a shootout 4442.
Great job, Hank.
Was that a was that a
poetry reference, Henry? Multiple. Boom. Wow. I didn't know you were that educated.
I'm literate.
Standing on the corner, Jamis Winston Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see. You're not Deshaun, thank God. Watts is not allowed to wave a towel terribly. Come on, Tony. Kadarius Ploony.
The Steelers put some fries
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1 of the best games of the year.
But we we what I was gonna say was, we made it. All bye weeks are done. Yep. We finally did it. We're in the home stretch.
So we will hopefully not have another Sunday like this where it's like there were multiple games that I was not watching whatsoever.
There were teams also that I missed.
Yeah.
There were big hole like, I miss I miss watching Jaden play football. Yeah. That's what I realized today.
You missed, who else was on by? The Ravens. The Ravens were a big hole.
Big hole. Big hole. Gaping gaping hole with the Ravens.
Gaping hole from the Ravens. Ravens. The Colts. Colts, Anthony Richardson Yeah.
I missed him.
Doing something Doing something crazy. Something crazy and and having a discourse about it, but we did have a couple good games early. Patriots,
I miss them. Yeah. And no no Bo. Yeah.
No Bo. I had no Bo this
year.
Forgot about Bo. Yeah. Should never forget about Beau. We did have, though I I, I walked away from Sunday being, like, I think there are 2 teams that I'm not respecting enough, and we'll start with the first 1. Vikings 42, Falcons 21.
This was the Sam Darnold show and Jordan Addison and and Justin Jefferson, but holy shit. Sam Darnold was 22 for 28, 347 yards, 5 touchdowns, and the Vikings. Why aren't we talking about the Vikings? Like, the Eagles and the Lions. I know that they have a couple tough games coming up, but, damn, the Vikings are good.
So it's funny you brought that up again because I I pulled up the Vikings schedule here. And so they've got the bears
Yep. Win for them. The Seahawks
Yep. The packers and the lions. The last 2 weeks are gonna be very, very interesting at least.
Yeah. They're gonna find out what they really are, but the Vikings are all they do is just keep winning. They had that 2 game losing streak, where they lost the lions then lost the Rams with the Sam Darnold face mask, call. But they're just really, really good. And I know this was a close game for a while and then, Ray Ray McLeod fumbled and the and it basically just opened up wide.
But the Sam Darnold is awesome. Sam Darnold, are we at the point where the Vikings should consider resigning Sam Darnold?
Yes. You you probably should because JJ is probably good, but
you don't know. But we know that
Sam's good.
Sam Darnold's also only 27 years old.
We know that Sam is good.
Yeah. He's he was really good today.
I don't wanna hear anybody waiting for Sam Darnold to turn back into a pumpkin. He might. He's turning into pumpkin spice.
Mhmm.
It's DeSamber.
Yeah. He's Get on board. He the, like, those I thought they were I thought it was replays when we were watching because it was it just there's multiple times where he would scramble around and then hit Jordan Addison or Justin Jefferson just standing by themselves
Yeah.
50 yards down the field.
The Vikings have achieved, like, a full circle thing where, Justin Jefferson, amazing receiver, and we all know that. He's so, like, physically dominant that you have to put, like, 2 guys on him. Yep. And then Jordan Addison, he started to put up so many numbers that people are like, oh, fuck. We gotta cover Jordan Addison.
Addison. How do we do this? And guess what? Jefferson is back open now.
Yes. Yeah. That was they basically were switching back and forth. They were doing the Ray Allen tweet with the receivers.
They were. And there there was 1 play in particular where I think it was, it was Jefferson had his hand up after, like, he's, like, 6 yards downfield, kept his hand up for about 10 seconds to throw him the damn ball.
Yeah.
Then the Falcons' defensive back just falls down. Jefferson catches it, walks into the end zone. They did the white girls dance on him. Yeah. They they got pretty disrespectful.
Well, they scored so many times. They had to like, they got deep. Jordan hasn't scored 3 times. Justin Jefferson scored twice. I feel like both those guys, once you get to your 3rd touchdown, you you're deep in your bag of of celebrations.
Yeah.
But I'm I'm impressed that they had that many celebrations choreographed ready to go.
Yeah. Well, it was, I I just think the Vikings are surging at the right time. This also was I don't think there's bad blood with Vikings fans and Kirk Cousins, but it had to feel good knowing that Sam Darnold had his best game of his career in front of Kirk Cousins who left the franchise last year or or or this offseason. And Sam Donald in his last 4 games is 11 touchdowns, 0 interceptions. Kirk Cousins is 0 touchdowns, 8 interceptions.
Yeah. So it's like he went back into a pumpkin.
He it is
Not a lot of quarterbacks have gone 4 weeks with 0 touchdowns.
It's bad. And it wasn't all Kirk Cousins' fault because they were well, no. I mean, the the the Falcons' defense was just letting guys run wide open. Kirk Cousins didn't play well. He that that, interception, that 1 handed interception in the end zone by the Vikings was so sick.
That was a good pick. I think Kirk said after the game that it was at 1 point, it was tied 21, 21, and then I think it might have been
I think that was the Rayburn McLeod.
Yeah. Then the next time he touched the ball, I think they were down 14.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think the Vikings scored then kicked off, then the Raider and McLeod then it then it just the whole game got away from them. But I So there is a little
bit of bad blood there because they booed him. Yeah. They greeted Kirk Cousins with boos, which
I don't expect that.
Personally love to be greeted with boos. Yeah. But for Kirk, like, it seems a little I don't know. Maybe they don't like the fact that he left. I don't know.
He could've taken less money and stayed there.
He he was pretty good for a really long time. Maybe it's just, like, they never got to a Super Bowl? Well, I don't know.
I I shouldn't I shouldn't condescend towards Vikings fans because I actually know exactly what they're going through. Yeah. Because I myself dealt with it for a while post Kirk Cousins. You get frustrated, Kirk, for not being, like, a great quarterback. You have him on your team for a while.
He's pretty good, and he's pretty consistent most of the time. And then he leaves to take more money somewhere, and you're like, I hate that guy because I feel like I wasted years of potentially good teams.
But you shouldn't boo in this game because Kirk Cousins helped you win this
game. Yeah.
You Sam Darnold is significantly better at this point of his career than Kirk Cousins. Correct.
The best revenge is living well.
Yeah. So it was, when I say it wasn't all Kirk Cousins' fault, he did not play well. He has not played well in the last 4 games, but the falcons did have a 127 yards of penalty penalties. They had the fumble on the kickoff. They also just let Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson run wild.
The falcons are we we said on Friday, we're gonna we're gonna be doing the show on Monday, and it's gonna be the Bucks in 1st place in the NFC South, and that's exactly what happened. And the Falcons are it just feels like it's all falling apart at the end here. And Michael Penick's?
It might be Penick's time.
It might be Penick's time. So you drafted him. Why wouldn't you get him a little, like In in
a weird way, that might have been a great move on draft night. We'll see what happens. But, the way that Kirk's playing, having a a first round pick that you can go to is a luxury that I think a lot of teams don't have. If if He's at least a spark. He's something new.
Well, and if the season is is, I mean, they they still have the tie breaker against the Bucks, and their schedule is not super, super hard. Their hardest game is against the Commanders. They play the Raiders and Giants next. But if your if your season's over, you might as well get Michael Pinnicks in. Yeah.
You gotta get him some starts.
So then the Vikings have they don't really have a decision to make this off season because you kinda have to keep Kurt Cousins. Right?
You mean the Falcons?
Start of the Falcons.
Yes. Because the Vikings do have a decision.
You have you have a big decision to make. But the, the Falcons kind of have their hands tied in a way.
I don't know. I always know the NFL salaries and and contracts are fake.
Cousins cap hit next year. His his salary is pretty much guaranteed for 2 seasons. Got it. So if you cut them this off season, you're gonna owe them, like, $50,000,000 against the cap.
Got it.
The Falcons don't have a lot of cap room to work with. The only thing you can try maybe to work out, but he probably has no trade clause, is a trade with another team that is in a similar situation with a quarterback that they're paying way too much guaranteed money to. Yeah. The Browns.
Yeah. That would be interesting.
That would be interesting.
That would be very interesting.
I think that they both probably have no trade clauses. But didn't Deshaun he he was, like, thinking about going to the Falcons? I think so. I just don't think Kirk
would go to No. Cleveland.
I don't think that makes sense. And, also, Cleveland's spoken for.
Yes.
Jameis is gonna be there, and he's gonna get he's gonna get a new young quarterback. They're gonna draft 1. He's gonna train him, and we're gonna he's gonna keep the Jameis flame going forever.
Mhmm.
But, yeah, I I feel like the clock is ticking now with Kirk Cousins. Very nice guy, but especially if the season like, what have they lost? 4 in a row, and it feels like, they have no momentum whatsoever. I this was why last week was actually the the game. I was like, that had to be the most disappointing game because their defense played so well last week against the chargers, and then you went back to being the falcon's defense this week.
And now yeah. I I throw in Michael Penix. Yeah. Because Throw in Michael Penix. Think Cousins is hurt?
He might be. He could just be older. He looks uncomfortable. Yeah.
He looks very uncomfortable in the pocket.
Also, playing Ryan Flores' defense is not fun.
That's true. Do you think that some teams like, do you think the Falcons blitz more today because they're playing against, against that defense? Yeah. That blitzes you more.
Yeah.
Some of their coordinators, like, if you're gonna I'm gonna blitz you too.
Yeah. Let's let's let's do a nuclear arms race of blitzes.
And you should not blitz Sam Darnold. Yeah. Sam Darnold is really good against the blitz.
And they're like, hey, you call off the blitz, we'll call off the blitz. Yeah. Exactly. You get Gentleman's game. No more blitzes.
You get caught into playing their game.
Yeah. Yeah. No. Sam Sam Darnold, that was the best game of his career. He's 27 years old.
Is it crazy to watch these memes?
Yeah. It's wild. Should've been on the jets, but he's on on the purple pasture. Yeah.
But, yeah, the catch to your original point. I I was gonna say I feel like the the Vikings are right there, like, 2nd tier NFC.
Yeah. And I don't I don't know. I mean, it will they'll prove it when they play the Lions in the in the Packers. Like, if they beat the Lions and Packers, why aren't they 1st tier?
Yeah. They could be.
Yeah. So it's I mean, they played the Lions very close. They've already beaten the Packers.
They beat the Eagles too in the preseason.
In the preseason. Max Max is getting upset there.
He's like, no way.
Max, just so you know, the last minute of part of my take has been me and big cat subtly trolling you hoping that you'll lose your shit.
Nope. I think the Vikings are really good. They they're they're good.
The the Vikings look different this week, I thought. I thought this was, like, an eye opening week for them.
Correct. Correct. I was like, this is thought they were frauds,
and I'm like, they're they're legit.
Yeah. Right. Because I don't know like, no matter how good your defense is, having to cover their weapons is a matchup nightmare. Like, there's just no there's they're so goddamn good. And and it looks like the Vikings I mean, they're 11 and 2 right now.
It feels like they're I mean, unless they can beat the packers and the lions, they're gonna be in that 5th seed, and they're gonna be a team that no 1 wants to play.
Well, so they beat the Packers 3129. They lost to the Lions 3129. Yeah. They're right in there.
The the Packers game was the 1 where Jordan Love was terrible in the first half and then caught fire.
Mhmm.
And the Lions game was back and forth. Yeah. I I I'm I'm a believer in in the bike. I feel like the NFC playoffs. I've been thinking of it as like a 2 team race, and we'll actually get to another team, the Seahawks, where it's like there are there are 5 teams now in the NFC playoffs where I'm like, I don't know, man.
They're playing great ball right now.
Yeah. Kevin O'Connell, maybe coach of the year. He's in the discussion.
Yeah. Absolutely. 100%. 100%. Okay.
Next up, Steelers, Browns. Steelers, 27, Browns, 14. The Steelers regular season, home game streak against the Browns can now officially drink. It's 21 years since the Browns have beaten the Steelers in the regular season in Pittsburgh. Also, the Browns have not swept the Steelers since 1988.
Yeah. I saw the 88 thing. That's that's a rough 1. But you did you did win that playoff game. I know it was COVID.
Yeah. But you'll always have that
That counts.
From Baker.
That absolutely counts.
We got we got a little, little bad Jameis today.
Yeah. Say so.
Yeah. The intercept my problem with Jameis's first interception today, wasn't that it was thrown to a defensive tackle, wasn't that it was a misguided throw, ill advised throw. It wasn't a fun Jameis interception. No. I get bummed out when I see boring Jameis Winston dull interceptions.
He just he just missed, the the lineman slipped there, you know, slipped underneath and and was standing right there for it. Yeah. We we
did, however, get some Kadarius Tony slaps at comedy today. Oh my god. So he muffed the punt at the very end, just kinda dropped it and fell down. But the punt that he had before that where he caught it successfully Mhmm.
And
then after the whistle, just threw the ball at the Steelers Yeah. And got a penalty. Like, he's he is the best at actively making your team lose game.
He has to be the record
in negative EPA. Negative war.
Yeah. I the when he when he when the ball went just right through his hands for the punt Mhmm. We all were like, wait. Was Zach Canarias Tony? What the fuck?
He is, yeah. He's not good. And and the Browns had him out there. The Browns also have maybe the worst kicker in the league because I feel like Hopkins just misses a kick every single week. And, they're the Browns the browns are bad, but I I walked away from this game.
The Steelers, no George Pickens. Not as fun without George Pickens. Although Pat Friar Muth did punt a ball into, the stands, and he said someone had to get fined with George out.
Yep. Pretty he did that 1 for Georgia. He's like throwing 1 out. Yeah.
Yeah. But the Steelers defense showed why they're 1 of the best units in, football. And Russ, who was bat not great in the first half, kind of righted it in the second half, got Mike Williams going. Yeah. I'm I'm ready I'm ready for the steal.
Like, steal's gonna be a really tough because I I'm always thinking, like, the old Russ is gonna not old, old Russ, but, like, Broncos Russ is gonna show up.
Yeah.
It might just be dead. He might just be he might just be old Russ, Seahawks Russ.
We he's playing with a lot more confidence. Like, with the way that he's moving around the pocket, he's not really thinking. He's just going Yeah. Which is good, Russ. And then the moon balls are back for sure.
The, Steelers defense was awesome today. 1st play of the game, the Browns ran the play where they don't block TJ Watt Mhmm. And they hope that he's not fast enough to get to the ball carrier.
Mhmm.
It happens every week. I don't know. I still have no idea how teams try to do this and think they can get away with it.
Yeah. They also did the play where, they didn't block Alex Highsmith multiple times.
Yeah. That 1 too.
It was it was just the Steelers defense was all over Jameis. And by the way, Jameis, I think God answered his prayers because the interception he did throw did not result in a pick 6. Yep. Threw 2. Neither of them brought back for an ears, for a touchdown.
Delivered from pick sixes. Delivered from pick sixes. He's good. I do want Jameis to to to stick around in Cleveland. I want them to draft a quarterback.
I want him to have, like, a new puppy that he can, you know, train and and maybe get some life back into Jameis. Mhmm. I want that.
What about what about Chidoor Sanders to the Browns?
There's no way that
And then,
Deion Sanders will let Chidoor Sanders go to the Browns.
And then Jameis gets then they bring Deion up to be co head coach as Kevin, and then they put Jameis at offensive coordinator in the year.
Yeah. There's there's 0% chance. No. Chidoor Sanders. By the way, I have I have a a tweet because everyone, you know, says that Jameis had a bad game.
You know, not great. I just wanna throw this out there. Jameis Winston, 45. I don't know what that is. I don't know what the 45 is.
So 240 yards, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions, loss versus an elite defense. People say bum can't trust them. Kyler had 275 yards, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions lost, but he got paid. Cousins, 3 144 yards, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions. Loss also paid.
Bryce, 2 120 yards, 1 touchdown, 1 interception. He's been, rejuvenated. Jameis has never judged versus peers but versus perfection so he can be denigrated.
There you go.
That's how it goes. Jameis would have won. That's how it goes. Let the record show Jameis did not have the worst week of any quarterback. Yeah.
Yeah. Yet again.
Bum can't trust him while everyone else gets paid.
So now the the sealers are in a 2 game lead in that division. Right? They got 10 wins. Ravens have 8.
And they got the big game coming up next weekend. The big game. The big game against the Eagles. Right? The battle of Pennsylvania.
Yeah. The Stegals. It's gonna be a we'll find out if the Eagles are for real Yeah.
Game. If they're on the Vikings level yet. Yeah.
Yeah. But I I am I'm I'm a full believer in Russ. So what It's crazy to say. I never thought I'd be back here.
What is holding you back from fully believing in the Steelers? Because I I believed in them for No.
About a month. I'm saying
I do. Is there anything, though, like, if you were to nitpick them in the playoffs? Yeah.
It's Russ.
It's Russ? Yeah.
Yeah. It's Russ, like, ending up being, you know, like, the pressure gets to him and he takes sacks, and it's Russ. But, I I mean, their defense has always been incredible.
If anybody makes the moment too big, it could be Russ.
Yeah. That that's it. That's the only hiccup. Everything else and, obviously, they need George Pickett's back because their offense is so much more fun with him.
Fun for us. Although Tomlin was, like, pretty feisty after the game. He's like, I've been telling you guys that this offense is good even without Pickens.
I mean, Mike Williams got going. Yeah. He made a sick catch. Okay. Next up, we have Eagles 22, Panthers 16, survive in advance.
Yep. The Eagles survive in advance. Almost lost the game. Xavier Leggett
dropped the
winning touchdown catch.
Bryce Young outplayed Jalen Hurts. Mhmm.
That's what people are saying. The Eagles kinda played down to their competition.
Yeah. The Eagles should've, it felt like they should've won by more just because Saquon was like, every time they handed him the ball, he would rip off 10 yards. But they were trying to get the passing offense going, and now we have AJ Brown saying he was asked afterward what the issue is. He said the passing. Passing.
He didn't he didn't say the passing game.
He didn't say offense.
He said passing.
He
didn't say the receiving. He said passing. He said the passing. I I do wanna just clarify something I said earlier about them playing down to their competition. I actually don't think that's the case.
I think the panthers might just be kinda okay. No. The Panthers' last 5 games are win win, lost by 3 to the Chiefs division leader, lost by 3 to the Bucks division leader, lost by 6 to the Eagles division leader. The Panthers are are playing great ball.
They can play a 1 score game against anybody in the league.
Yeah. No. That was that was a impressive performance from Bryce Young. I do think he is the quarterback of the future now for the Panthers, which is awesome because it looked like 1 in 7. It looked like everything was lost.
Now you not only have a quarterback, but you have a coach in Dave Canales who's, you know, coaching them up. They're not a great roster, and he's staying with all these teams that are gonna be playoff teams. So, yeah, I I'm I'm a believer in this Panthers team going forward with Bryce Young, which is crazy to say. But the Eagles, they're fine. Get there's another issue.
They're fine. But the passing the AJ Brown, you would rather not have AJ Brown kinda call out.
The passing and the kicking.
And the kicking. Jake Elliott has not made a 50 yard field goal this year.
Kicking is a major, major problem
right now. 0 for 5 on kicks over the button
is officially
They were in a spot to kick a, like, a 57 yarder to make the game 6 to 9.
Yeah. 2 score game.
And they chose not to.
Last year, you you make that decision a 1000 times out of a 1000.
It's automatic. Yeah.
It was there was no question about it last year. Now it's like you can't trust them to do anything.
So, Max, you've been trying to line things up just perfectly going into next week. You've been thinking about the Steelers game for a while. I would say that winning a close 1 that you could have lost at the end, pretty good way to head into the Steelers matchup.
Yeah. I mean, the Steelers game is big. It's more so big just because of the in like, the Barstow aspect of it, though. Like, it's a big game, but, like, it's an AFC team.
But you're trying to you're trying to get the ones, and you're trying to make
a statement.
Correct. But if, like, it's it's it's not not as important as the as the other 3 games going forward because it's an AFC game, and the tiebreaker is
Every game should be important.
Every game is important. The pay this Panthers game was important. I said that this game was was funky, and I thought it was it was gonna be an n f NFL makes no sense game.
Yes. Basically, it was. It was. Mhmm.
I mean, Javier Leggett catches that ball, although you were saying we're fine. We're fine. We're fine.
Well, there was there was still 45 seconds and 3 time outs. But So Jake Elliott. Jake Elliott. Yeah. Jake Elliott.
So what
are you concerned at all, though, about AJ Brown? Because that feels concerning.
But AJ Brown does that shit, like, every other week. Like, if he that that's concerned? I guess, but not really because that's just, like, kinda the way AJ is. He doesn't we've talked about that with good receivers is that, like, you want a little bit of
Yeah. You want that. Jalen Hurts catch
a lot of balls. I'm sure if he caught 6 balls in the and it was the exact and it or if he caught the DeVonta Smith touchdown, he doesn't say it.
The, Jalen Hurts had a couple weird plays. That 1 where he just slid, for, like, a 9 yard loss when he could've thrown it away, that 1 was bizarre.
That looked like he got hurt. It was like 1 of those plays where it looked like he got hurt.
Yeah. He does
that from time to time. He he, like, runs slowly at a diagonal and then just lays down.
It was that that was weird.
And, the other thing that would be concerning is the Eagles now, 13 games, 10 of them, they've been shut out in the Q1.
It's about how you finish, not how
you start. Starting fast, though, in the playoffs is very important.
Not if you can finish strong.
But if you get in a hole against a playoff team, that could be a problem.
But if you can come back
That's true. You could come back.
But what if you get in a hole early and then They can't come back.
But that's what happened. That's what happens to the Eagles every game.
But then you don't get the running game going. It gets a good team.
Would you rather against
I mean, that's what we've done.
Would you rather start slow or start fast? I
would rather start fast
Okay.
And then finish fast.
Okay.
Mhmm. I'd have to choice between starting fast and finishing fast, I I would choose finishing fast.
You like to finish fast.
I love to finish fast.
Yeah. Mhmm. I think we all do. I'm
Get angry out. At finishing fast.
It's actually 1 of my strengths. 1 of the only ones. The yeah. AJ Brown. So here's a fun stat.
Saquon Barkley, he's now 94 yards a game. So 4 games left, 94 yards a game, away from 2,000. He also has the Eagles record in, rushing yards in a season, passing LaShawn McCoy. And the craziest thing is that was Lane Johnson's rookie year. So LaShawn Johnson has been part of both.
LaShawn McCoy's previous record, Eagles seasons, single season record, and now Saquon Barkley's single season record. Laine Johnson is the best.
So, this would be a good time just to remind everybody. OJ Simpson, much better football player than human being. Through 14 games, he had 2,003 yards. Wow. Pretty crazy season.
Wow. Say what you want about
the guy. Different league, though.
He could run with a football.
He could run with the the football. Did you I heard you guys saying, Guinanamo Bay. He wore the shirt today. Yeah. Oh, okay.
I don't know if that was our shirt.
No. I don't think it's our shirt. I don't think do we make them?
I have prints of them.
Oh, you didn't
make them? Oh, no.
Was it Guantanamo Bay?
Yeah. It's Guantanamo Ours is San ours
is Sanquinian. It's because yeah. Sanquinian.
Sanquinian. That's right.
Yeah. That's right. Different prison.
Yeah. He's got that 1. Why didn't you you gotta put him up.
I think it was like a
They didn't wanna be associated with the prison,
but he associated himself with the prison. No.
I'm saying, like, we didn't. Oh.
Yeah. But now that he did
He did
it. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we can
But he's also kind of outed himself as being, Quinyanamo Bay guy.
Yeah. No. No. No. We did we did put it up.
We did Oh, Sanquin.
Sanquin. Sanquin is is alive in the Barstow store.
Hank, you weren't here for it, but, Max was getting very upset at me in PFT. Yes. Screaming at us.
Well, they're either just you guys are just trolled.
I was just saying, oh, no. Yeah. We said, oh, no. Every play,
oh, no.
A lot of
oh, no's. You guys couldn't get off the field on 3rd down.
Oh, no. Right? Yeah. He was screaming at us. It was PSTN might have turned to each other being like this would be in a in a boring early slate.
This would be pretty good for
the pod if they lost to the panthers. It would have been.
Especially lion's
rant on Thursday.
Max's Eagles won the game.
Yeah. Good job, Max's Eagles.
Sometimes you just gotta win a game.
Bad producing, Max's Eagles.
Do you know what's a crazy Saquon stat for you, Max? Saquon has, 14 times this season gone down at the 1 or the 2 yard line, and then Jalen Hurts takes his touchdowns. It's bullshit.
He he doesn't care. He's a I
care because I I had you switch from Tyrone Tracy, which I'm sorry, but you also didn't come with conviction.
Tyrone Tracy did score.
I understand. I said sorry. That's why I said sorry, but you also also didn't come with conviction.
I wasn't sure if you were apologizing to me or if you
were apologizing to the AWs.
Yeah.
They did feel like there was I think there was 1 play on the 2 yard line where instead of doing the tush push, they tried to hand it to Saquon And he didn't get it. And he didn't get it. They were trying to get him as MVP.
You were right. You were right about that.
But it didn't work out. But, yeah, he had a great day.
Still think he had, like
A 124 yards rushing? Yeah. He's a beast. He's an absolute beast.
So he has the Eagles single season record right now. I think he passed Shady. I think Shady what what Shady have? What?
Yeah. That's what I said. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lane Johnson was Yes.
Rookie for Lashawn McCoy. I have the panthers here. Who do the panthers play? They're gonna pick someone off. They're so fucking close.
They're so close. They're actually a fun team to watch. I don't know if they play anyone. No. Maybe the oh, I guess the panthers could decide the Bucs or the foul falcons.
They play them in the last 2 weeks of the season. That's gonna be interesting. They they could beat 1 of those 2 teams
Because you're gonna have falcons fans then probably rooting for the saints in the last game of the season.
Because the saints are playing
Saints are playing the Bucs.
Yeah. Yeah. Wow.
This league.
Yeah. Tangled Webb. Okay. Well, let's let's go to the NFC South. Bucks 28, Raiders 13.
This is a weird game because I feel like the Bucks should have won this game by a lot more. They were up 14 nothing. It looked like they were cruising. And then they just let the Raiders hang around, hang around, hang around. And they needed, some Aidan O'Connell, some Desmond Ritter.
Yes. Run to Desmond Ritter.
So Aidan O'Connell, he got injured. I think he got shoved from behind by LaVonte David. I couldn't see where he hurt himself, but, apparently, he got carted off in an air cast.
Air cast. Yes.
So it was bad.
Yes. It was
a bad injury.
Yes.
So now, Raiders, you have to be you have to watch Desmond Ridder every Sunday.
Or, the guy who they're gonna bring up as the backup is gonna be Carter Bradley, Gus Bradley's son. Oh, how about that? Isn't that crazy? That's I guess it's former Toledo, and I can't remember where else. Southern Miss, maybe, quarterback?
But yeah. Carter Bradley. I I need to see Carter Brad Bradley. Sure. Yeah.
I mean, the Raiders started Gardner Minshew, Desmond Ritter, Aidan O'Connell, and Carter Bradley in 1 season. Just might as well go all the way.
You couldn't really plan it out that poorly, I don't think.
No. The Raiders do have the number 1 pick, though, right now.
And Chitter Sanders did tweet, thank you, god, after the game was over.
Yeah. We can say, hey.
And AWL DM me, but if they have beat the Chiefs because of their strength of schedule, they'd be, like, the 8th pick.
Oh, really? Oh, wow. So they were lucky to not win that game.
Yeah. Mhmm.
Could it could change the the course of their franchise.
Yeah. Because if you look at Tankathon right now, which I am, the the Las Vegas Raiders picking 1st, Giants picking 2nd.
Both need QBs.
And Both need QBs. The New England Patriots picking 3rd.
Yeah. That was Mac Jones helping you out. Mhmm. Mac Jones gotta win. He helped the Patriots go to 3rd.
Brock Powers got the tight end record, rookie tight end record for receptions, 87. But, yeah, I I didn't you guys think the same thing where it's like, I don't know what it is about the Bucks. I think they're good. They have moments where they're good, and then they have moments where it feels like an entire quarter goes by where Baker Mayfield gets, like, 15, screens or short passes blocked at the line of scrimmage.
Yeah. Some yeah. They're they're not super consistent. And
They can run
the ball well. I think I
think not having Bucky for most of the game was a pretty big problem too. So people are big mad about Bucky.
But then Rashad White had a really great game.
White had a great game, but people are big mad about Bucky. Wow. Fantasy players
are
big mad about Bucky.
This is my team.
Yeah. Because he was he was, like, kinda will he or won't he all week? And then they said he's going to play on Sunday. And then after, like, a quarter and a half, they just took him out for precautionary reasons, they said. And he didn't go back in the game.
This is he played. Yeah. He did. This is big time, like, fantasy owners scorned season
Yeah.
Where it's like it gets really, really testy if a guy doesn't play or has a bad game because we're in the playoffs or we're about to be in the playoffs.
Yeah. There will be. I'm gonna go Mike Florie here. There will be, lawyers that try to sue teams and sue the NFL NFL Yes. For potential damages done to your fantasy team.
Yeah. I do think the Bucks are gonna win the NFC South. We've been saying that for a while now. I just don't know I don't if they play the Vikings in the 1st round, I like the Vikings.
Yeah.
Yeah. And I I love Baker Brown. I think he's banged up, and he also just yeah. It just seems like there will be times where they their offense kinda falls asleep. They should've when this game started, I was convinced that they were going to just run over the Raiders because it felt like the Raiders had the quit factor.
And then it was legitimate, like, it was a legitimate game up until the Q4. Yeah. And it
is cool seeing Scott Turner and North Turner up in the booth
for Raiders. Hell, yeah. The the big issue is their dogs getting along. That's what we learned. Yeah.
The anecdote that they told us on the broadcast.
So he moved in with Scott.
So yes. So Norvin, his wife, I guess, Scott's mom, moved into their house, and, everyone's getting along except the dogs.
Yeah. I wanna know what kind of dogs they are.
That can happen from time
to time. To me, if I'm just guessing based on just coach vibes, I bet they've got small dogs. Yeah. I think they've got 2 maybe even the same type of dog. Yeah.
Like, 2 small they each have Yorkies.
Or pugs.
Yeah. And they don't they look a lot alike, but they hate each other.
And they call them brothers. Yeah. And they don't like each other. Mhmm.
Your brother's in your brother ate his dinner. Yeah. Your brother's gonna eat your dinner if you don't get in here.
Oh, no. Don't do that to your brother. I have nothing else in this game. Since Sam McCormack, I guess, actually.
Cool
name. He's and he's good for the rate. The Raiders are on their 4th 3rd 4th running backs Yeah. And trying to make the whole thing out of and their 3rd now their 3rd quarterback. So Scott Turner just even getting them to score a point.
That should win. Probably be coordinator of the year. That's a
massive win.
If I had to vote for coordinator of the year, he would win coordinator of the year.
If you're a Raiders fan, you just you wanna get to this off season because you don't know what the hell your franchise is gonna do. Yeah. Like, things are about to get weird in Las Vegas.
Oh, I do have 1 other thing. Antonio Pierce, which shouldn't shock you, 1 of the dumbest challenges of all time that I think it was can you find it? I think it was Jacoby Myers maybe on the sideline where he I don't even know if he got 1 foot in. Barely got 1 foot in. Barely got 1 foot in.
And his second foot was, like, so far out of bounds, it was past the white, like, where the chalk ended.
And, like, Antonio Pierce should be a bad challenge guy. Like, justified vibes, he's just not gonna be a good challenge guy.
Rage challenger.
Yeah. He's a rage challenger who's just not gonna win a lot of challenges and, like, a football guy challenger. See see if you can do Antonio Pierce challenge. It was so bad.
Okay. I'm looking. I just looked up Antonio Pierce challenge on Google, and there's, 4 different things that are written about 4 separate weeks of questionable Antonio Pierce challenges.
Yeah. Here it is. Look at this.
Yeah. I remember seeing that.
He he touched his his right foot out of bounds before he got barely got 1 toe in. I don't even think he got 2. I don't even think he got 1 foot in.
I don't think he did. It's 1 of the worst He was coaching college Yeah. For a long time.
That was but even in college, that's not a catch. I know. Because he stepped he stepped out of bounds before he even got maybe a little bit of a toe in.
Yeah. In college, I would say that's a terrible challenge.
Yeah. I just like that I like being able to, like, rely on my gut instincts with some of these things. And and if you had asked me with no data backing it up, like, is Antonio Pierce good at challenge? I'd be like, fuck no.
Yeah. I wonder what
he'll do. I wanna try to change
the momentum. I wonder what the Raiders' system is for challenging these calls. It might just be Antonio Pierce on the sidelines. Yeah. Like, he's listening to the radio call of the game.
He's just doing yeah. He's just he's basically just a gambler where he's like, please, maybe
this will hit. Might be Mark Davis up in the booth.
That was no different than doing a 15 team parlay. No. Challenging that play. There's 0% chance.
Hoping that the refs would make a historic mistake.
Yeah. The the refs would be like, you know what? Fuck it. Yeah. We feel bad for how your season's going.
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Okay. Here's a game that I can't say that I watched a lot of. Saints 14 Giants 11. I saw some of it. I saw Drew Lock running.
I saw Drew Lock running directly into 2 defenders when he could have run for a first down.
And then I saw him running for, like, 25 yards, which was kind of nice.
Yeah. That that was a nice run.
I also saw the stat that he was 0 for 8, in the Q1.
I saw Darren Rizzi almost knock out his punter. That was awesome. Line. So Darren Rizzi, former special teams guy. Yeah.
I guess once a special teams guy always It's
in his blood.
Obsessed with special teams.
I'm gonna guess he's gonna continue being a special teams guy after this season.
He was so, so mad at his punter. It it looked for a second like he was gonna punch him. Yes. Alvin Kamara had to get in between them, separate them, be like, dude, you can't yell like that at a punter. He's not a football player.
Like, you can't you're gonna break your punter down. The punter, to his credit, did a pretty good job of being like, yes, sir. Yes, coach. Yes, coach. Please don't hurt me, sir.
And then after the game, Rizzi said to the media, he was like, yeah. I think we're I think we're cool now, though. Like, he took what I said, and, you know, he's a football player, so he's gonna respond well to it. I don't know if the punter's cool with it, if the punter is as much just, like, thankful he didn't get his ass kicked on the sidelines.
Yeah. His life, flashed before his eyes.
But but they're cool. They're cool with it. 1 thing that I thought was interesting was Derek Carr. So he got injured in the game. Yeah.
He, credit to Derek Carr. The season's kinda, like, gone down the tubes a little bit. He's scrambling for a first down. He goes full airborne Mhmm. Jumping to try to get a first down over, like, 3 guys, lands on his left wrist, does something to it, breaks it.
Yeah.
And then after the game or even as this was happening, I saw a lot of Saints fans being, like, Derek Carr is a fucking moron for trying to go Superman in this lost cause of the season. But I think, like, great for Derek Carr.
Yeah. He's balling out. He's got pride. Yeah. You wanna still have pride?
Yeah. Like, I get it. I get it. It's kind of a meaningless game. No one's gonna look back on this this game against the Giants and be like, it was 14:11 in the Q4, and Derek Carr went super scien against him.
No one's gonna think about that, but Derek Carr does.
But you also gotta remember Derek Carr is still probably gonna play. Because, like, last year, he played with an entire broken back.
The difference is out
of the game.
He might need surgery.
And so He might still play.
You think he's gonna delay his surgery?
I I mean, do you remember last year Yeah. When we were just begging for Jameis and Derek Carr was, like, in a walker? Yeah. And he couldn't and he would just kept on go going out there. He's he's crazy like that.
He is. So that might be, Spencer Rattler for you. It might be Spencer. Or Jacob Haynor.
Listen. You play who you play.
You play who you play. We also had at the game, there was a plane over MetLife Stadium that said, it had a a message attached to it. It said, mister Mara Mara, enough. Please fix this dumpster fire.
I like that they referred to him as mister Mara. Yeah. Very classy.
Yeah. Wanted to keep it classy.
Yeah.
Yeah. Not a scumbag. You know, you're not a scumbag, mister Mara. You're just mister Mara. And then, Daybell saw the banner.
Yeah. And so did Malik Nabors. He was asked about it. He said, I ain't paid for that plane. Yeah.
So that's so there we got we got 1 person we could scratch off the list. What did did Daybell say anything about it?
He basically said, I'm trying to fix it too.
Yeah. Dable looked like he was gonna cry after Graham Gano got his blocked, or kick blocked at the end of the game.
Yeah. That was tough. But that this that actually might be like a Darren Rizzi specialty.
Yeah.
Because They've done it twice. Teams against the Saints since Darren Rizzi have taken over, I think they're now 1 for 7 on field goals.
Wow. Field goal defense.
He's got great field goal defense.
Field goal defense. Yeah. He the the, block kick, that was almost identical to the 1 they did, like I think it was week 10. Mhmm. So, yeah, he's still a special teams coach.
And, we also had a funny moment where there was a tweet that was saying that Malik Neighbors screamed during a play. You're all calling plays like I I ain't out here. Mhmm. And then Tyrann Mathieu corrected it in community notes, and he was like, that was actually me. Yeah.
So he was just taunting Drew Lock in the Giants' offense.
Yeah. It's bad, but for a different reason.
Yeah. Right. For a totally different reason, but also still bad. But it's
kind of the same amount of bad.
Yeah. Right. Exactly. Maybe worse. This is just a bummer of a game.
Maybe worse. Because if it was Malik Neighbors that said that you could put that in the AJ Brown pile where you're like, yeah. You know, great receivers sometimes have that attitude about them. Yeah. When it's your opponent's old safety saying that, screaming it out loud, then that's just kinda like the whole thing is fucked up.
Yeah. And I I I kinda like that the giants are, I talked about it last week with Thanksgiving, how the giants and the are very similar in their situations right now. They're kinda just following the Bears' path now with getting a kick blocked at the end of the game to lose a game. And it's just playing really sad football that is tough to watch. Starting o for 8 This is
a tough game to go to.
It was a tough game to go to. Tough game to watch. Shout out that guy who got the plane. I wonder how much that cost.
It should have been a a firefighting plane. Yeah. They're trying to put out the dumpster fire.
Yeah. Mister Mera, please please stop this dumpster fire. There's nothing he can do.
No. He's tried. Just get Eli back.
He's just bad at his job. Okay. Anything else from this game?
I don't know. No. I mean, it was Bummer. It was a good it was a
good result for the Giants. Yeah. I the Giants fan should absolutely be rooting. They're not gonna win another game. Right?
Because here's
the thing. If you're a Giants fan, if you draft a good quarterback, things can all change very quickly for you.
And you can at least hope that things are gonna change.
Because with the whole Daniel Jones thing, it was like an escalating snowballing series of bad decisions that were all kind of based on the fact that you did not know if you had a good quarterback Right. When you didn't. Right. So if you get a good quarterback, then you
can put all that decision all that brain energy goes somewhere else. Yeah. Brian Daboll's real fault was he coached the hell out of Daniel Jones for that 1 year. Yeah. He shouldn't have done that.
No. That If you go back in time, he should have just coached a little bit less and and maybe made it so that Daniel Jones failed a little bit more, and everything would be different.
Then he'd be like, go get me a quarterback.
Yeah. Go get me a quarterback. I need a quarterback.
Aaron Rodgers next year.
Aaron Rodgers next year. Although Aaron Rodgers might stick around. There's a report that the Jets are gonna maybe draft a quarterback, and Aaron Rodgers can he can he can take him under his tutelage.
Make his life heaven.
Yeah. Yeah. That actually if you draft a quarterback memes, Aaron Rodgers will be good again. Who reported that?
Yeah. So I just saw the look on memes' face and he did the real life meme of of Donald Trump. I'm just hearing about this now.
Alright. Jets. You tell me for the first time. Memes,
by the way, I loved your I loved your boomer today. My favorite part was that you your throat started to get scratchy from doing the voice. I I actually didn't know that you were doing the voice. What do you mean? Thank you, Greece.
Do you remember what was doing your regular voice.
That's scary, man.
This is from some place called U Stadium.
Oh, alright. They're they're troll? No. They're good.
Jets are likely to draft a quarterback. Oh, no. Rapport reported it. Oh, nice. Jets are likely to draft a quarterback in round 1 of the NFL draft regardless if Aaron Rodgers is on the roster.
I love that Max just went to Rossini's Twitter page to try to find out where
this Yeah. Is coming from. The, the this would be where
I go for my Jets news.
Yeah.
She was good job. Listen. Let's do
let's do this game. Dolphins 32, Jets 26. Memes, this would be a good thing because Aaron Rodgers has shown that if you put competition, young competition around him, he's gonna play great. They drafted Jordan Love, and he he he ripped off some great years.
I agree with you. I just don't think there is a quarterback because right now we're at 7.
Mhmm.
I think it's very thin at the top. Drew Drew Aller? Yeah. But you could get him in the probably second round. No, buddy.
Did you watch that?
Did you see that 4th down throw against Oregon?
You can still get him in the 2nd round.
Not after that 4th down throw against Oregon.
Have you guys ever drafted Penn State quarterback?
1 yeah. Thanks. 1 time.
I some something nice to say about the Jets memes. It is Izzy season, but it's a different Izzy.
Who was it? Isaiah Davis.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's a stud.
Is he also Izzy, Isaiah?
No. He can't he can't replace Izzy.
I don't know. Replace I
like this case.
Replace 1 with the other.
He's got a little wood head
in him.
No. He's good. He's a South Dakota Jack
right now. He he scored a touchdown and then went off for, like, 2 seconds and went right back on to kick unit.
Yeah. No. The He's
a football guy.
The the lasting effect of Joe Douglas, Olufuzhanu, Isaiah Davis, Braylon Allen, all studs.
Yeah. Mhmm. So this game means you kinda got exactly what you wanted out of this game. Aaron Rodgers looks good for the first time in forever. He threw for over 300 yards for the first time in forever.
Garrett Wilson and Davante Adams were putting up big time yards, and he lost the game.
Yeah. It was a perfect loss.
Aaron Rodgers also kinda lost in this game. Why? Missed guys.
No. The well, that and the 3rd down. Yeah. He threw it to the sideline when he could have checked to a run or throw it to the middle of field. Dolphins get it back for, like, 15, 20 seconds.
Vontae Adams were out of bounds.
That, that long pass that he threw, where was that was that Adam? No. That was, I
think it was Garrett Wilson.
That was Garrett Wilson. Right?
On the sideline?
Yeah. Threw that bomb to him.
Yep.
And he had all the room to throw that ball and bounce.
Yeah. And he just missed him.
But he
had a good game today overall.
He did. He played well overall, exactly what we talked about on Friday. You wanted him to look like he could still play quarterback. I thought he could still play quarterback after watching today.
Yeah. Today today felt like a good game.
That might have been his best game as a jet.
The Patriots week
3. Okay. That 1?
That 1.
That 1 was the best?
That's the best. Yeah.
That was the best. The Dolphins are still alive, by the way, which is crazy. They need a lot of help, but they did save their season today by winning in overtime. Tua is going for the record for completion percentages, all time. He's at 74.5%.
I did not know that.
Drew Brees, record was 74.4%. So better not have any incompletions, Tua. Let's go to a good for Tua. Tua did the thing, and I know you probably, know what means from watching the game where it's so frustrating because Tua he'd it felt like he never got touched today. He had all to all the time in the world to throw, and he'll throw, like, not a lollipop, but like a looper, and then it would just be perfectly placed like Tyreek Hill coming out of a cut.
Like, the exacts the exact the the 2 the touch 2 point conversion, and then the touchdown in overtime were all that throw.
Yeah. It was it was all the same play.
Yeah. It almost seemed
like the dolphins were kinda fucking around at 1 point. Yeah. They were spamming a play. They did a no look pass at 1 point. It almost felt like they thought they had a 3 touchdown lead,
but I don't know.
The Dolphins are playing weird.
So do do you want Rodgers to stick around if you draft a quarterback? If we draft a quarterback I I say yes. A lot of
Jets fans don't want him, But
He'll be good if you draft a quarterback. He needs a little bit of that spark, a little bit of fire.
Get a younger dog. Keep him down.
Contract, I think you have to restructure and keep him.
Okay. That's
just my opinion. Because if you cut him before then, there's just so much dead cap.
Yeah. And you also wanna keep Davante Adams.
Yeah. Every time he got a ball, I was just like, this guy's so good.
Right. And so you need to keep Aaron Rodgers. Memes, I have a bad stat for you. This was you guys were officially eliminated from playoff contention. 14 years, longest playoff drought in the NFL.
Yeah. Would you like to say anything? It's this is a long it's not
the longest playoff drought in all sports. And NBA.
It's all the sports and
w All sports.
Sports. Shout out to them. MLB. All the sports and NHL sports. And WNBA per Adam Schefter.
It's also the longest in MLS, but Schefter didn't mention that. He said WNBA, not MLS. But it's misleading because hockey has the Sabers. And I think this this would be 14 years for them if they don't make the playoffs this year.
Right.
That's a long time. And, also, it's been 15 years since Tottenham won a trophy.
Yeah. Who that that's soccer?
Yeah. Soccer. I don't wanna I don't wanna say anything bad about that. We we're we're we're of the age where we could we could easily have the Jets playoff trial could easily be our child. If I had a 14 year old kid, it wouldn't be weird.
Yeah. And there's no end
in sight. None. Well, Aaron coming back.
Isaiah Davis. Is anything going on for you right now?
Alright. Breaking news, maybe.
Breaking news.
Jeez. They were setting you up for the breaking news.
I was gonna I was gonna do it during PFT's boos back. Oh. 0, okay.
Alright. Well You wanna just
tell what you do now?
Yeah. Yeah. Breaking news. Juan So to signs
1 of your memes, moo.
Yeah. Go ahead. Moo. Breaking news. Yeah.
Breaking moves. Juan So to signs with the New York Mets. 15 years, 765,000,000? Holy shit. What was our debate?
I think you said over 700. Right?
I think I said 750 or 700.
I said I didn't think he was gonna get 600.
Yeah. We so you were wrong yet again. That's awesome. Memes? Yeah.
It's nice to get a win. Yeah. Just having a How did you not take that win when we were just talking about the Jets playoff drought? Like, that was exact we so we started the podcast, and we saw the news. And we're like, hey, memes.
You can pick when you wanna do breaking moves for this. You just had the spot right there. You can just interrupt who's back when
he does it. Yeah. Do it with whatever. Yeah. That insult set that you brought up to me earlier today.
That was a
great stat.
That was
a good stat.
That was a good stat.
How, so thoughts on Juan So to?
I'm not the biggest baseball guy, but he's the best. New York's back for right now. Okay.
And you
beat the Yankees. That's really all.
Yeah. The Yankees fans are so upset.
That's the win.
It is.
Yeah. They're going off the bat. How could he turn down the Yankee Yeah. To to go to the Mets? Does he not know about our history on the Yankees?
Yet he doesn't give a shit about history. He likes the money.
Yeah. A lot of baseball fans are mad about this.
Yeah. No. This is good. You got you got 1 over on the Yankees. Are you mad, Max, because he's in division?
Yeah. No. It's no good for us. They were already better than us. How do you
yeah. How do you think our friend Jared Carrabba's is doing? Probably not well.
Not well. Yeah. I mean, my reporting's on the hot seat. I I on this on this very airwaves, I said he was gonna be a Red Sox. Mhmm.
I was misled. But I think for Red Sox fans, it's much, much better that he's on the Mets and the Yankees. Like, that that is a a little victory in its own right.
Yeah. I mean, the Yankees fans are this is because it is so much money. The and and the Yankees oh, wait. Yankees bid 760,000,000 for 16 years. Oh, should've done 16.
Should've done 15. Damn. That's awesome. I like
to think Steve Cohen just he was just sitting in a chair, and and Scott Boris would, like, walk back into his room once every, like, 5 minutes to be like, Yankee say that they're doing a 725. Yeah. Boris, like, just give us 726.
Yeah. I
no no deferred money either, which is Wow.
I mean, shout out to Steve Cohen for putting his money where his mouth is. He said he was gonna do this, and he did it.
Yeah. I feel like Mets fans, you can't complain about Steve Cohen.
No. No. At all.
Like, you you've lost the that's not an option for you now.
Yeah. I think people did for a second, but now now that things are going good Yeah. With
the guy.
And you're playing it I also think that this is what we said when we talked about this the first time too. He literally it it I think it was just a dollar sign. Yeah. Like, he put 0 emotion in or anything into it. The Mets said 765.
The Yankees said 760. 765 is higher than 760, so we took 765.
Well, and
also the the Yankees
And the year.
16 years. I the thing I don't understand, and it drives me nuts, I wish the Cubs weren't cheap. They're a fucking huge market team, and they're they they pretend that they're poor. I don't understand why a team in this situation doesn't isn't like, hey, Juan So to. How about, 300,000,000 for 3 years?
Like, you get a $100,000,000 a year and then you're a free agent again.
Because they want the long term.
I know he wants the long term, but, like, that would if you get paid a $100,000,000 a year Yeah. And just be, like, you get you get another contract that's probably gonna be even more. Like, you if you if he signed a 3 year hunt, $300,000,000 contract barring, obviously, like, a catastrophic injury, he would end up making more money than the 765.
Bar barring an injury. Yeah. Or borrowing, you know, just the career falling off.
But just being like, hey. Here's here's a $150,000,000 a year.
I think somebody's saying, do you want guaranteed $765,000,000 is pretty good.
I don't know if someone if someone's like, hey. $400,000,000 for 3 years and you could dip again.
Do you think Juan So to as a, as an outfielder, do you think he was a little bit scared off from the Yankees by the Copa Bianco brothers
Probably.
That are lurking out there in right field?
Probably. Now he's yeah. When he comes back to when he comes back to New York Yeah. They're gonna Real New York.
They're gonna
have to
say to him.
They're gonna get him. Also, if you're an if you're an investor, wouldn't you wanna have the money up front? Like, if you did 3 years, $300,000,000, you probably make more money. If you invest
if you invest it correctly.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, 15 years from now, he's gonna get paid what? Well, how many how many how many million a year is that? I can't do math.
I think it's also nice to just know for
50,000,000 a year?
For 10 years, be like, okay. This is gonna be my home for 10 years. Yeah. So I don't have to move in 3 years.
Because he likes money. Yeah. It would be sick to do that.
If if Scott Boris represents your best player, just prepare yourself to either get bent over a barrel to say goodbye to that player.
Yeah. I mean, he was a true unicorn in the fact that his age and how good he is and became a free agent. Like, that doesn't happen very often.
Yeah. Mets fans. I I envy Mets fans. He's he's the funnest player to root for in the non Kyle Schwarber division. Yeah.
He's so fun to root for.
Okay. Longest drought in, all sports. Jets.
Yeah. It doesn't matter.
They asked Aaron about that afterwards. He goes, well, I've only been here for 1 of those seasons.
Oh. Well, actually, 2. It's
2 seasons.
Yeah. 2 seasons.
It doesn't matter, though. What do
you mean? Only 1 team gets to win every year.
And if you're not the
team that's gonna win, who I would say getting to the playoffs definitely matters. I would like to go
to the playoffs. Does
it? What?
Playoff wins since 2010. Jets, 2. Bears, 1. I 0. I know.
It means nothing.
I know. I want to be in the playoffs.
I know. But if you don't win in the playoffs, it means nothing.
But you can't win in the playoffs if you don't get in the playoffs.
It doesn't matter. When we're gonna get there, we're gonna go on a run.
You kinda got there yet. But getting in the playoffs matters. You can't win unless you're in the playoffs.
But if you get to the playoffs, you don't win. You don't win.
Well, no shit. But you've
been doing the playoff picture you've been doing the playoff percentages every week. I haven't made
the playoffs for 14 years.
But Correct.
But now you're saying it doesn't matter to me. Yeah.
It matters because you could go on a run, but if you're not going on a run, it doesn't matter. No.
I mean, you're you're discounting that entire week where you get to look at the bracket and you get your game time and you plan ahead and you make it, like, the biggest deal ever because you're playing in a playoff game and it means a lot and you get that week of what if.
Yeah. But you lose.
But means you're still getting into the playoffs is the only way to win a playoff game.
That's true. Just let me cope.
Yeah. You can cope.
You can cope, but I'm just I'm trying to explain that, like, you do want to get into the playoffs.
I know. We just can't do
it. Agree. Winning the playoff game is very important, but the first step is getting in. Isn't it crazy if you, like, ask Jets fan after this back to back AFC championships Yeah. Going
there. Congrats on making the playoffs, Max.
Yeah. Max. Thank you. You clinched. Yep.
How's it feel? As someone who's clinched the playoffs, how's it feel?
I don't honestly don't care about making the playoffs. I care about winning in the playoffs. Yeah.
But you you can't is it true that you can't win a playoff game unless you make it?
Correct. But the Eagles make it all the time.
Yeah.
That's true.
Would you rather not make the playoffs?
No. I'm happy that we made the playoffs, but I'm but I'm more excited to go to go on a run.
It's the first time you ever said that? Wow.
That's facts. What are the
you got the website pulled up right now. What are the commies percent at?
79. Alright. Rams are a little scary.
Rams are definitely scary.
There are lots of scary.
Rams are scary. Rams are scary.
Rams are scary. Alright. So congrats on Juan So to. Congrats on not making the playoffs because you don't care. I can't.
It's actually been a great 14 years
for you. Great 14
it's it's really a 14 year Super Bowl drought.
You thought you did something with the 2 playoff wins.
I thought
I That's why I thought I nailed it. I know the Bears suck, but I still would. If you ask me, could we getting into the playoffs or not getting in the playoffs, I'd much rather get in the playoffs. I would much
rather get in the playoffs, but I would rather go on a run in the playoffs. No doubt.
But you can't go on a run-in the playoffs unless you're in the playoffs.
I know.
And if you get if you get 1 playoff win and that's all you have to hang your hat on, then that's still you look back on that moment and be like, that was cool when you beat the Bucks 17, 10, 2006.
That's true. But I'm
a loser, and so this is 1 of the things I do to cope as a loser. So I'm not gonna judge you
for coping. Wait. Our playoff win also came in the same year. Our last playoff win. Did it not?
Who? 2010 when you guys went to the AFC championship? I got my ears mixed up. The Bears went to the NFC championship, lost to the packers. That's true.
I don't know if that's 11 I I can never Let
me see.
I wish the seasons would all be in 1 calendar. Yeah.
The the calendar starts fucks me up. When the NFL league year starts Right.
In March. Because it's always like, well, what playoffs is it that year? The season was played here. Yeah. We beat yeah.
And then we lost, and that was Jay Cutler getting hurt.
Oh, damn. We could've played each other. Yeah.
You guys We could've played. We were this close to playing in the Super Bowl, but not really.
You guys lost on the same day. Yeah. So sweet.
Also, a buy should count as a playoff win. I agree. Because you I agree. You get to this you got to the same amount of.
Although that just you just added, like, a 100 playoff wins to Tom Brady's record.
As you
should. Wait. Which oh.
That was so long ago. The bears so long
ago. The bears lost earlier in the game. Yeah. We played Earlier in the day.
We played we played the early game because it was, like, 0 degrees, and it was very bright out.
But memes, you also beat the patriots January 16th at 4:30 PM. The Bears beat the seahawks at 1 o'clock. Yeah. We had the early game. So you have a more recent
playoff Congrats. The Bears do. Congrats. Congrats, Nate.
Thank you. That's huge.
Okay. Last game from the early slate, Jaguars 10, Titan 6.
Be honest. How much of this game did you watch?
I was I I said, oh, is the Jaguars titans game over? And someone who is close to that TV said, yeah, dude. It's been over for, like, 20 minutes. I think they played this game in, like, 2 hours 2 and a half hours.
They might have played this game on Thursday night and then taped it and then just broadcast it to that.
I just saw the only the only, notable things I saw was Mac Jones is back to doing the spin nowhere. Mhmm. He's he spun to nowhere and then threw a pick. Mac Jones did help Hank and the Patriots, and Doug Peterson maybe didn't lose the locker room because they won a game.
Yeah. I don't know. My my status on this game was I asked I would check-in periodically to see if Mac Jones had thrown an interception yet Yeah. Because I bet on him to throw an interception. He too too.
Once I heard that he did, I was like, okay. Cool. Mission accomplished today. Yeah. So yeah.
Ironically, the Jags can't even tank correctly because Bigsby won the game for them.
Yes. And Matt Jones is actually pretty good in the second half. Also, here's a fun thing. So I know we said we weren't gonna talk about the Jags anymore, except for how it pertains to their draft order, which I now think they're 4th.
They are 5th. 5th. And the the titans, by losing yeah. They the jaguars are 5th. The titans are 6th.
Yeah. The because the jaguar the tights already had 3 wins. The jaguars had 2. Here's a fun thing that we can watch for the titans. So this is a titans, stat, which if it happens, I I would have to imagine is a record.
So let's just assume Doug Peterson gets fired. Is that a fair assumption? Yeah. Okay. So it's a fair assumption.
If the titans lose the jaguars in their rematch, I believe, in week 18, the titans will have lost to 4 teams that fired their coach this season. They lost to Matty Berflus, they lost to Robert Salah, and they lost to Doug Peterson. And if by chance the Bengals fire Zack Taylor, they could potentially go o and 5 against teams that fire their head coach.
That's pretty impressive.
Which would be I think that has to be a record.
That's very impressive.
That would be a cool
record to watch. It's kind of insulting because teams get fired if it's like you can't even beat this team. Right. Or coaches get fired if if they're like, you can't even beat the 10 or the titans lost to those teams? The titans lost to those teams.
That's great. The titans could potentially go o and 5 against teams that fire their head coach this season. Doug Peterson, Robert Salah, Matt Eberfluss, and Doug Peterson again, and possibly Zach Taylor, who I don't think they're gonna fire him, but it's they play the Bengals, I think, next week. That's a hell of a stat. That would be a a bummer of a stat.
This game sucked, though.
10 to 6. 10 to 6. It was the perfect game. It was exactly what you thought this game would be. The NFL makes sense.
Brian Thomas is good. That's cool, Jaguars fans. He's really good. He's he's going for the record of, most 75 yard, games for a rookie. So he has 8.
The record is 10. He has 4 games left. So he goes 2 more games over 75 yards in that game. He'd have the record.
Will Levis did not throw an interception today. Right?
No. But he did miss a wide open throw in the end zone. I don't know if you guys saw that. Can you find that clip? Did you guys see this play?
It was not good. He basically threw it over the guy who was running on the the back line and there was a guy right in front of him who was essentially standing wide open. I think Russillo tweeted the the clip. But yeah. It didn't look good.
This game was not good. And I know we say it all the time where we're like, hey. What's the like, this is a game that we would kill for. I don't know if I'd kill for this game in April.
I would Look at that.
Yeah. Look at the guy underneath. He is he could not be more open.
It looks like the titans are 2 defenders, and the jaguar sky is the wide receiver.
Yeah. Yeah. Great defense case. The titans out
that that would have been a great pass.
Yeah. The titans just kept on going to the red zone and not getting anything, which I
that's kinda what they do. Tony Pollard's still good, though.
Yeah. Tony Pollard's still good. Tank Biggs would be good. Mhmm. Doug Pederson hasn't lost the locker room.
Maybe. Mac Jones, still bad.
When was the last time a coach got fired in season after a win?
No. Robert Salah didn't get won didn't win a game.
Because it has to happen at some point for Peterson. Right? I they might have just told him by now, like, you're gonna coach the rest of the season. Yeah.
They're like, this is it's too much for pain in the ass. We gotta do a press conference. We gotta do the whole thing.
No 1 move in
kids. Interim. Before Christmas.
They might also just, like, not have an interim on staff that they find, you know, who's able to do it.
Yeah. Yeah.
They're just like, hey. Just just finish this season and
Do us a solid, Doug. We're gonna pay you. Just kinda keep showing up.
Yeah. Maybe win 1 game, but don't win too many games because you don't wanna fuck up our draft pick. Okay. Let's take 1 more break, and then we will get to our afternoon games. PFT, you got a quick sponsor.
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By the way, I did a bad job of, I should have mentioned that the Dolphins Jets finished on a walk off scoreagami, and our darling Jake was, like, finally justice for 2 of fingers.
Yeah. Kinda cool for him. Huge.
Walk off scoreagami. Very cool. You must love that memes. Big moment. This is also the first time I'm hearing that.
Yeah. He said he said justice justice for 2 of fingers. Okay. Niners 38, bears 13, that game sucked. The bears are a joke.
They're so bad. They they they got Eberflus fired, which I was totally on board with. You'd think there would be pride. You'd think that there'd be an interim head coach bump. Nope.
Same garbage team. Same garbage start. There was a moment where it was 310 yards to 2, and then a half it was 319 yards to 4 yards. I just need this season to end.
So I
just need it to be done. I can't do it anymore. It's fucking up my, mood too much. Just get the Bears out of my face, and we'll revisit it, come draft.
So the halftime, 3 19 to 4, 3 119 by the 40 niners. That's the most in the NFL this year. Yeah. 4 by the Bears is the least in the NFL Yeah. This year.
As a matter of fact, since 2015.
Yeah. No. They were so bad. And you'd think that was really bad. With a with a, fired coach, you'd think they'd come out with a purpose.
Yeah. No. Not at all. Not even close.
No purpose.
The silver linings in this is that we can oh my god. The Chiefs just This is it in. Unbelievable. Keep doing it. They keep doing it.
Oh. The Chiefs just doing it. Oh.
I took 5 fuel goals in this game. That was huge.
Unbelievable. So I want this season to end so bad. It's so so bad. The only silver linings is we can maybe get a real coach, and there was a little bit of a murmuring of, like, Thomas Brown could be the next coach. I don't know why he's on the sideline.
I don't know why we we had 3 good games offensively, relatively speaking, and we took him from the booth down to the sideline. Rome, Adunze had a good game. Other than that, we are just a garbage, garbage team, garbage, garbage organization. Just end the season. I can't do it anymore.
Oh, we play Monday night football next week.
Good news is it's a it's a shared Monday night slate. So doubleheader, Monday night football, so the the eyes of the world won't be on you. This is what I'm talking about when I when I was telling you about the Bears Thanksgiving week. The Bears sometime in the second half, they don't look as bad, but everybody only watched the first half of Bears games because it's so depressingly awful Yeah. That they're like, oh, this stinks.
So they don't even get your good stuff.
No. It's it's I mean, we weren't good in the second half. We were just better than how bad we were.
The first drive was good.
Yeah. But we it took, like, 15 minutes.
I know. The game was kinda over on that scoring drive.
I just needed the season to end. I'm just so I'm out of energy. Like, Max and Jackie Tables were sitting there trolling me the whole game, and it it doesn't even hurt. Like, I can't there's nothing like, it doesn't even it doesn't I don't even feel it. You know what I mean?
Because it's just like this team is so bad, and this organization is so bad and so lifeless and lost that I can't even I can't even be hurt. I'm numb.
They asked Kyle Shanahan after the game about
Oh, yeah.
About the rumors that, were spread by our good friend, Mike Florio, regarding the potential coach trade. Yep. And he pretty much just poured cold water on it.
He said no. And then there also was a report that Brock Party's gonna sign an extension. So yeah. It was, and George Kittle was awesome. We just decided, like, hey.
Let's not guard George Kiddell at all. Interesting strategy. I don't know. I anyway, I mean, I I'm done. They're they're in, like, the jaguars pile of, like, what what does it even matter?
Fire Thomas Brown? Yeah. Fire Thomas Brown. I it's just there's no point. They just get the season over with.
Just get it over with. Like, maybe beat the packers.
That'll be awesome. That is That'd be your season.
But other than that, we're gonna get killed by the Vikings on Monday Night Football.
Spin zone, at least you don't have to worry about them on Sunday. You can put you can put all that off to Monday. Like, you can enjoy an NFL Sunday.
True. True. I wish we had another buy. I wish we could they should really give an opt out for teams at this point of the season.
Like, you've had 2 out of the 3 last NFL Sundays, day or less.
Yeah. This 1, though, suck because the afternoon I we always suck when we play in the afternoon, Sunday night football, Monday night football, Thursday night football, or the early sleep. That's when we suck.
But another spin zone, that game was over so quickly, Everyone
Oh, he's got beat. He's got that.
I no. I got what? The game was
over so early. Everyone stopped watching. Yeah. No 1 no 1 was even paying attention to that game after it was 14 nothing. Yeah.
Mhmm.
It's
just so bad. If you
beat the Packers, this is a successful season.
I
hope they play in a
flag. Yeah. That's kinda
like Michigan, Ohio State. If we beat the packers to somehow get them out of the playoffs, which I don't think is possible, yes, that would be a successful season. That would be my Super Bowl. I'd raise a banner for that. But, yeah, I wouldn't it the only thing that with my luck and the bears' luck, the the bears would beat the packers, and then the packers would, like, slide down a spot and, like, Jalen Hurts would get hit by a bus and then they would, like, you know, like, have a cake.
You know what I mean? Like, something the the world would work in a way that the bears beating the packers actually helped the packers get into the Super Bowl.
Jalen Hurts getting hit by a bus. Yeah. No. I had to
I had to that it it could happen. If if the bears beat the packers, I would make sure that Jalen Hurts does not cross any streets without looking both ways. Mhmm. Just saying.
Why did you wanna know about that?
He want he wanted to know more.
Yeah. Brought that up. He wanted to know more.
What if
what if, like, a piece of a stadium falls on him?
That would be bad.
That'd be bad. That he's probably gonna play in his in a falling stadium in a couple weeks.
It'd be bad.
No. They don't that seemed to the fall. I don't know if you know. They got a new owner now. They haven't changed.
Everything's shine box, buddy. Yeah. Everything's changed.
Same city.
You've been gone for a long time. Maybe you didn't know. I don't I don't have shoes anymore.
Also, I don't think the 40 niners are good. I just think the bears are
that bad.
So I was wondering from the 40 niners fan's perspective, are you thinking, like, we might be good?
It will it will all come down to Thursday night football. If they beat the Rams, then, yes, I I I think the 40 niners fans will allow themselves to be like, oh, maybe something's here. But It's the same you
know, you guys were just in a Super Bowl. That is a we might be good game this week.
Against the Rams.
But even this bears game is like
You can't really tell, though, against the bears. Everyone beat From their from their perspective,
they're, you know, spinning this to, like, we're back. We're good.
Yeah.
This is we're making a run.
Was Matty Berfusz actually a good coach? How did he win 4 games?
I have no idea.
It's actually insane. They're 4 and 2. Yeah. No.
They roster.
They play the Rams, the Dolphins, and then the Lions. So, yeah, I mean, the good thing about the the Niners, you'll just find out because if they if they run the table, then they're absolutely a Super Bowl contender because that would be beating the Rams, the Lions, the Dolphins, and the Cardinals.
So the rest of your season is gonna be spent hoping that Caleb plays well.
And not
would you say Caleb played today?
Not good. I mean, he's he held on to the the offensive line is terrible, but he holds on to the ball too long. He he had a couple moments in the second half, but, yeah, it's just everything's a mess.
Couple good plays by Rome.
I don't know why Thomas Brown was taken from from the the booth to the sideline. I don't know if that matters. In my dumb brain,
it does. Can you do that? Can the interim head coach be a head coach from the booth?
I'd love for him to do it. It just felt like they had a little tiny bit of momentum, and it really wasn't a lot of momentum because they still sucked in the first half in every first half. But, yeah, I don't know. Just get just reset. Get to the fucking off season, and let me stop thinking about the bears for a couple months.
And then I'll I'll fill myself up with optimism, and I'll say stupid shit that I'll regret later, and we'll just do it all over again.
We heard an interesting fact during the game today that at first, none of us really believed. But it turns out, I think it might be true that the McCaskis won't let people wear Bears merchandise in their box during the games.
No logos.
No logos. It's, like, beneath it's not classy enough.
Which I'm not I mean, they That's okay. Rich people shit. They didn't
that's old money shit.
They asked hard knocks to to have no swears.
But, like, you're at a bears game, and you're in the owners box, and they're like, can you please take that bears hat off?
Yeah. Listen. They're they're terrible. Like, would you like
to would you like to apologize to me for making me apologize to you when the bears are foreign too?
No. Okay. I don't. Good question. I'm not in the I'm not in the business.
I'm just curious. I've given out so many apologies, so I'm out of apologies. That's fine.
I mean, that's classic Hank. He's just curious guy. Yeah.
Yeah. No. Good question. Maybe maybe after the season when I can refill with apologies.
Okay.
I just feel like I've been apologizing to everyone Fair.
Everywhere Fair.
For everything I've said.
Fair.
So we'll just get to that. Put that on the list.
Got it.
Make a note for yourself, and we'll we'll circle back. Okay. Yeah. Good question. Thank you.
You should apologize when Hank does his 9 daughter.
Yeah. Deal. Great.
What? What, Max? What was that?
That song? You
just attach your mic and decide.
Punishments are are are coked.
In a bad spot.
We're
in a bad spot with punishments.
I'm gonna get my tattoo. I have a I have a tattoo artist. Of everything. Not sure.
Let me get a perm.
I'm gonna do the baseball at some point.
Yeah. We're having some problems with the baseball thing. It's gonna come.
But it's it's due to the weather.
And it's also we're trying Same
with the 9 darter.
Trying to do something that is above and beyond for the AWLs, and it's it's proving to be difficult.
Same with the 9 darter.
Same Same with the 9 Darter. Same with the 9 Darter. Okay. Seahawks 30 Cardinals 18. This is the other team.
So is the Steelers, the Vikings, and now the Seahawks. I don't know what happened during the Seahawks bye week, but their defense is completely different. This game was it looked like the Cardinals came ready to go, scored on the first drive, and then Kyler started shooting down his leg and throwing picks, and the Seahawks controlled the entire game.
So what's changed with the Seahawks is Ernest Jones is really good.
Yeah.
And he's he's kinda taken on a a big part of that defense, and he is playing awesome right now. Yeah. So the the Seahawks defense shut the Cardinals down today. Their offense the the Cardinals defense has been pretty good at home.
Yeah. They couldn't stop the run at all today.
Teams couldn't score against the seahawks. Yeah. Seahawks would have
The cardinals. Yeah.
Yeah. Against the cardinals, and, and Charbonneau was just electric today.
Yeah. Yeah. And I I think I'm I think I believe in the Seahawks. I mean, they're now on the top of the NFC West. And the way they've been playing, they've won 4 in a row.
Their defense looks completely different. They have weapons everywhere. I think I'm believing in the Seahawks. They do have weapons. Playoffs are gonna be fucking
I think both both sides.
They've they've got the weapons. They finally reached the point where JSN and DK have, like, fully taken over all the time for Lockett. Yeah. Lockett is barely even afterthought on that offense, but Jayson has been playing great the last few weeks.
Let's do a a a headline. Is is this the most wide open the NFL's ever been?
I can't you know what? I'm thinking back to 2017, obviously. He was pretty wide open in 2017 too.
This might be the most wide open
the NFL's ever been. 2020 was wide open.
2020 was wide open because it's COVID year.
It's COVID. Nothing else. Game. Last year was kinda wide open too.
Last year, but then the Chiefs and the Niners played in the Super Bowl.
Well, it's about to be the Chiefs again this year. It just feels like it. They're not good. They only have 1 loss. They don't lose.
I know. Alright. Seahawks, Cardinals. So we're talking about them.
Gino is now 6 no against the Cardinals.
Yeah. He doesn't lose to him. It feels like this is the end of the cardinals season. They had a nice run, but they have fallen off. And it just it's frustrating.
I I've said it many times before, but, like, watching the Cardinals when things are not clicking on offense, they might be the most frustrating offense to watch.
Yeah. They yeah. Not great.
Because you just expect big plays to happen and you expect when Kyler runs around that something cool is gonna happen, and then it just doesn't happen.
Yeah. So this is a a big time pivotal game for both teams. Yeah. So because they won, now the Seahawks are way, way more likely to make the playoffs. If the cardinals had beaten the Seahawks today It would've been won.
It kinda would've been reversed.
Yeah.
The Seahawks would be down to, like, I don't know, 11% if they had lost.
Yeah.
So pretty crazy pretty crazy outcome. I don't think anybody thought it was gonna be a big time blowout like it was, but Kyler basically put them in the shitter in the Q1.
Basically, all I'm watching for for the car I mean, I guess they could they're they're 2 lost 2 back in the in the lost column, and the Seahawks have the tie breaker because they beat him twice. So they're not eliminated, but it feels like they're eliminated. I'm just gonna watch to see if Trey McBride will have the best season of a receiver ever without scoring a touchdown.
How many yards
do you
have now? 850. Yeah. Does not have a touchdown. Get him in the end zone.
Get him in the end zone. It's crazy. Also get the guy in the end zone.
Are we sure that Marvin Harrison junior is good? Actually, yes. We are. Just remember Marvin Harrison senior listens to the podcast.
Yes. We are he is very good.
I just wanted to say that Marvin Harrison junior is an impact player.
Incredible player.
Get him the ball more.
Really good player. Really good player. Okay. Last game, best game. Rams 44, Bills 42.
This game ruled. Josh Allen was out of this world good. Matthew Stafford was out of this world good. Puka Nacua is unguardable. Cooper Kupp was catching balls off his thighs.
It was awesome. Everything about this game was awesome.
Yeah. So a couple things, couple firsts for Josh Allen and the Bills today. Josh is the 1st player with 3 pass touchdowns and 3 rush touchdowns in the same game
Yeah. Crazy.
In NFL history
Crazy.
And it's also the first time that a team scored 6 or more touchdowns with no turnovers and lost. I don't
like that stat because they're just pretending that the block The block punt. That changed the game. The block punt. That literally was the game.
That was returned for a touchdown.
Yeah. Both teams couldn't be stopped, and then the special teams of the Bills failed once, and that was the game.
Yeah. It was pick 6 without it was a kick 6.
Yes. That's a that's a misleading stat.
It but it's also a true stat.
It is a true stat, but I I I wanna say when when 10 years from now when it happens again and we're like, oh, the only other time it happened
We'll be like
Bills, Rams, like, actually, there was a blocked punt. And, also,
that was during the wide open 2024 NFL season Yes. When anything could happen.
The most wide open season we've ever had.
Yeah.
But, yeah, this was this was football porn.
It was
And I and you knew I I was saying on Friday, this is another 1 of those kitchen sink games for, Sean McVay. He's had a couple of them this year where it's like the Rams back has been against the wall, and he's going to basically call a perfect game. And, by the way, Hank, I feel like Tom Brady's kinda finding a rhythm because he was saying, which was a good point, that the Rams have very rarely been in a position this year where they can dictate, their play calls offensively and how it looks so different when they were playing with a lead and Sean McVay playing with a lead can do whatever he wants. Mhmm. And they haven't been in that spot, and that's why they were just, like, exploding offensively.
Yeah. He also creamed himself over Cooper Kupp's hands at 1 point. Yeah. Strong hands. And his voice sounds bad.
He's got strong hands.
His voice voice sounds good.
No. His voice was scratchy.
He was I like it.
Sounded under
the weather. Oh, you
like it?
Sounds like daddy. Yeah. Oh.
Yeah. But the kitchen sink, by the way, was, like, get the ball to Puka Nakua. Yeah. And Cooper Kupp.
And Cooper Kupp. But oh, and they ran the ball really. They ran for, like, a 100 yards in the first half. I just love watching Puka Nakuwa.
Yeah. He's he's so good. He's making they're throwing in the ball when he's covered. He's fully he's not open. Yeah.
And just knowing that he's gonna do something incredibly athletic and strong and acrobatic and end up coming down with a catch. Yeah. He always does.
The Rams were 11 for 15 on 3rd down. And every time they needed a 3rd down, they found 1.
And then bring 5 guys to tackle.
Yeah. Yeah. He's awesome. The Rams are a dangerous team if they could ever get in.
The Bills hate hate James Cook.
Yeah. Well, they were playing from behind. Yeah. And then, I gave a free bet, a 15 k free bet to our graphics team, and they picked James Cook anytime touchdown. And then our good friend, number 1 ballknower or ball watcher in America, Liam Blutman, like, I don't know, halfway through the Q3 was, like, actually, there's some stats showing that they're saving him for the playoffs.
So there his carries are down. It's like, that would have been nice to know. The usage rate. Yeah. He just went off on the usage rate.
Mhmm. And Josh Allen is just he he's a he's a TD vulture.
He does. Goal line. Every time at the goal line, just send Josh diving head first through the pile.
We should mention, by the way, all time stupid mistake by Sean McDermott at the end of the game.
That's what Brady Brady was I mean, that
was cooking them. So because they did it perfectly. They so so to set the stage, the, Bills were down what were they down? 9? It was 4435, I believe.
They were down 9, and they had all 3 timeouts. And and the bills ran a perfect drive where they were getting everything to the sideline. They were getting out of bounds. They were going quickly. Essentially, if they can keep all 3 of their timeouts, they will be able to kick it deep if they want to, try to get a stop, and then a punt and field goal to win.
They get all the way down to the 1 yard line, and then Sean McDermott calls a, a tush push. Don't get in. He burns the 1 time out. Game over. That's it.
Because then you have to onside kick. You're not gonna get the onside kick. Game over. It was crazy. I don't know why they did it so perfectly.
And then at the last second, they're like, oh. Because they they were at the 1 yard line. It was a pass interference in the end zone. They could've just they could've just ran a bunch of pass plays and and and not have the clock go.
You were just thinking that there's no chance that they stop him on this court. Right.
But it was just you you had done it to perfection to get a 1 stop, all 3 timeouts, get a punt, 20 seconds left, have Josh Allen get into field goal range. Like, it worked perfectly, and then you just threw it all out. So it
was a big mistake by McDermott. There was also another big mistake at the very, very end of the game. So, the Rams punt. They did a walk off punt Yeah. Which you hardly ever see.
But the idea was kick the ball so high in the air that it lands after the clock expires. Yes. So you get no time at all. McDermott had 9 guys on the field. Oh.
9. Oh. Not 10, not 11 guys. 9. And there was there was a penalty just before that with a delay of game that the Rams took intentionally Oh.
To wind the clock all the way down. And you still had 9. Got post penalty
9 guys.
9 guys on the field. Shit.
That's a lot of
You're supposed to have 11. You think that Sean McDermott would know the difference between 9 and 11.
Yeah. You would. I've heard. You absolutely would.
If there were 2 numbers,
the 2 numbers he would know.
He would.
Okay. Sunday night football. Chiefs win, walk off, field goal, doink that works in their favor.
They've yeah. They've got the power of the doink on there. So the doink is an enemy to everyone except the Chiefs.
Yeah. They, that big third down at the end of the game when they get Travis Kelce where if the chargers can stop them, they they would have, like, a minute and a half left. That was the back breaker. Credit to chargers because it looked like they were not interested in playing in this game in the first half without Ladd McConkie, and then they came out and had a nice second half, but the Chiefs just keep winning. They're just better than everyone.
We will have Jerry O'Connell on the show to talk about, the fantasy recap for this season. Yeah. Jerry had Ladd starting for us until the last second.
Oh, no.
Took him out, put Palmer in instead. That overthrow on Palmer would have been probably 70 yards and a touchdown. We ended up losing a 100.82 to a 102.22. That's the difference right there.
That's it. Carry on. Game of inches, folks. I want
you to walk me through your thoughts and your process. This is your exit interview.
Game of inches. That's brutal. Dank, you bet the you bet this game?
Oh. 0. Max, thanks for sending this this way.
If Juan So to goes to the Mets, I'll post a video of me eating a gallon of human shit. Why would someone tweet that?
Oh, well, this was tweeted today. Yeah. Like, an hour ago. So it was somebody that was hoping to
Oh, this is go viral?
All things Philly?
Yeah. Is this you.
This would not be me.
Why'd you send it then?
Yeah. I did not send Meme sent that.
I think it's you.
I think Max sent it.
Hank, you think the Chiefs are just gonna win the Super Bowl?
I think they're gonna get to the Super Bowl, unfortunately.
I still they can't and
I don't have black magic. They have they have curses. They have witches. Like, they're not a good team.
They're not they're not a good team. They're
not it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen in the playoffs. They're gonna lose. They're gonna beat the bills in a weird way. They're gonna beat the reigns in a weird way.
Like, they're they're not possible to watch this team and watch how the season is gone and because all, you know, expectations and, like, projections go out the window, they just win. So and the playoffs is the ultimate example of that happening. Like, somehow teams, you know, the great teams win, they've won 2 Super Bowls. They're not worried about the pressure.
No. I I They're gonna find
a way to win somehow. I agree with you. Infuriating.
I agree with you in that fact. Like, people, you know, say, oh, they get lucky. It's like, no. No. They're just really talented, and if if the ball bounces their way, they're ready.
You can't have any mistakes against the Chiefs. If if the ball bounces their way, they're gonna capitalize on it. That's why they're Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. I just don't know. Like, I feel like Patrick Mahomes has no time.
Their offensive line feels more like it was in the 2020 season than last season or the season before where it's like, last season Mahomes looks bad too. I know because he has no time. They're not a great They don't have guys that are beating people 1 on 1.
But they are great at winning. Right.
Yeah. Exactly. You're right.
You're right. Exactly what to do to win close games. What's the record against the spread this year? Bad.
Really bad. They've I think I think it's, like, 6 or 7 in a row that they've lost.
Yeah. I mean, they just they know how if they get like Big Cat said, if they get 1 break Yeah.
They they will have a lot. On it. Did were you impressed at all with the chargers? And and, also, you were so happy with Justin Herbert. You thought he his knee exploded?
No. No. No. I bet I bet that I
had the chargers running for a while.
I was I was riding the chargers. I I drank the Kool Aid. That overthrow was inexcusable really. It was a good second half. It was a good comeback.
They needed it. I thought he was gonna have a chance. Like, that they needed it. They needed to make that 3rd down stop. Justin Herbert needed to have a shot to at least, you know, win the game or or whatever.
But, yeah, they, I mean, they stink. Like, they're just they're bad.
Right. So They're not they're not
they might win 1 playoff game.
The Chiefs the Chiefs are not a good team, but if it's at the end of the game and you need 1 drive to put you in a position to win the game, they're still a great team.
Yeah.
They might be the best team in the NFL in that scenario.
Max can't find it, but I have it. 7 straight against the spread, losses. Wow. 7, including tonight. That's insane.
How long are you gonna keep the charters could win the Super Bowl charade going?
I don't know if they can win the Super Bowl. I I think they win a playoff game, and then I'll probably cash out. Alright. 1 of my 2 futures.
The entire reason behind this bet was for a cash out.
We still have not.
Yeah. But, also, you said that you probably wouldn't cash out.
Well, I did 2 of them, so I'll definitely cash out 1 of
them Yeah.
If they win if they win a playoff game. It'll be after a playoff game. They gotta win 1 playoff game, and then I will be like, yes. Let's cash out. There.
Alright. Any other thoughts from, week 14? I'm happy buys are gone. Yeah. We need we need to get back to I think next week, we have 5 games late.
Ball's deep in football. And they're, like, really good games too. And then we're gonna get Saturday football soon.
Saturday football is always nice. That's in a week.
Xavier Leggett cost us a a great episode.
Yeah. Xavier Leggett.
The sickos should be upset with him.
The sickos should be very upset at Xavier Leggett because Max was gonna be prime prime upset, especially after his rant about the lions. It would have been great. Yep. It would have been great.
They stole that from us.
Yeah. Next week, we have, Bills, Lions, Steelers, Eagles. Early?
No. No. All the good games are late.
All the good games are late. Bills, Lions, and Steelers, Eagles late. And Bucks, Chargers, which will be That's
so fun.
That's gonna be fun.
That's too.
So fun.
Fun ass games.
That's those are some fun ass games.
The, the Eagles acronym for it. The the Eagles Commanders game that we talked about potentially being flexed to Monday night that Max and I were looking forward to
Yeah.
Maybe. Turns out that's not a possibility of happening because it their earlier matchup was on Amazon, and the NFL has a rule where if Amazon has 1 game, then you can't take their second game away from Fox or CBS.
Which I'm very happy about because I I know you guys wanted to go to the game, but we need that game to be streamed, and we need to be able to have an episode after it.
Yep.
Because Christmas week, we won't have a Wednesday episode. So if it went to Monday night, we would have just sat for, like, 3 days Yep. Waiting to talk about it. Now we get to talk about it right away. Yep.
And it could be significant. You gotta you gotta beat the saints.
Gotta beat the saints.
Gotta beat the saints. 1 and o.
Gotta beat
Gotta go 1 and o.
Or Spencer Rattler.
Yeah. Alright. Let's do, oh, I have a rollback question. Rhoback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts.
Rhoback.com promo code take. So we're down to 2. Max is clinched. PFT is still trying to clinch. We'll have 2 playoff teams on this podcast, possibly.
Definitely. Gotta beat the Saints. Oh, definitely.
You shut the fuck up.
So my rollback question is, the 2 verse 7. How much have you guys thought about this? We first thought about that, I'd say, what, a month and
a half ago? A month ago?
Rams. Okay.
You're scared. He wants the Rams.
I'm just no. I'm not I don't want the Rams, but we're
you should want the commies on the Rams.
Rams make me nervous.
So I'm just asking 2 verse 7. I'm just asking because it's kind of it's pretty much locked in that the eagles are gonna have the the the eagles could obviously go to 1, but they're not gonna it'll be very hard for them to go to 3. They'd have to lose 3 out of their last 4, and the sea ox would have to win out. And the commanders, they really can't I mean, it'd be hard for them to go up to the 6. I think it's a collision course right now.
I think if we win 3 games, we would still be the 7 seed, I think.
Yeah. Because the packers are ahead of you. Yeah. So have we thought are we thinking about it?
We're thinking about it. I welcome the challenge.
I mean Rams are really good football team.
It's hard to beat You could basically end his life.
It's hard to beat a team 3 times in a year.
You you could basically end his
life. What does that mean?
That means that we're probably gonna win 1 of the next 2.
I don't
know why you're scared, man. I, like, want I would I would, like, I would be I would want the commanders. The commanders is like a it's just a layup.
On your bulletin board.
It's a layup. We're we're not even supposed to be here.
We're not even a good team. It's a Sunday board.
We we haven't beaten a team that's above 500.
Bolton board. Bolton board.
You want us. We're a cupcake.
Who would you alright, Max. Let me ask you this way. Yeah. Why would you want where the Rams ended today, who would you wanna see
in the playoffs in that 2/7 matchup? Best case scenario for you.
In an outside world, it would be the Commanders. In this world, I don't wanna see the Commanders in the playoffs. That you can't
Yeah.
It's 1 world.
I want the Eagles. It's all 1 world.
I'll just say it. I want the eagles.
Obviously. Right right now, I'm playing It's a win win for you.
How's money? Yeah. We're a year away from contending.
You guys are good. Like, the eagles are good.
No. Next year, we're gonna be good.
Playoff team would be, by definition, at least good. Yeah.
No 1 to your definition.
0 expectations. Not even the meme's definition.
Right. I mean, for maximum heartbreak for Max. No. That that's what I'm saying. Like, it's scary because it's just, like, the worst situation and would be such a bad loss for me.
And I see those losses so often.
Well, hey, Max, by the way
But, like, the Eagles are objectively so much better than the Commander.
Objectively so much.
You guys aren't playing the game. Like, dude.
Like, Max, you you just beat the Panthers. Yes. Kinda. You beat you beat the Panthers today. Like, don't let anyone take away
from that. You got smoked by the fucking Cowboys.
We smoked the Panthers.
That was also a different panthers team
after we smoked them. We lit a fire under their asses.
The, like, the panthers are good now.
Yeah.
They are good.
They were bad. We're not good. The bears beat the fuck out of the panther.
We fucked them up. We fucked them up. Yeah. Matt Eberfrost coach of the year.
You guys are, yeah, you guys are good at beating beating up bad teams. And then as soon as you play a team above 500, you look horrible.
No. That's not true. We lost by, like, 1 score to to the stealer.
1 point
to the stealers and 1 score to the raver.
Well, you said horrible.
Let's get let's get a round of applause.
I think
we have different definitions of the word horrible.
Means did you have some stats that you compiled, anti PFT commander stats?
No. That was gonna be my nerd nugget of the week, on Thursday, with the cardinals losing the commanders and beat a team over 500 this season.
Oh. Yeah.
But they're only under 500 because we beat them. You're you're only got lost out there.
You're just playing teams because you sucked last year.
No. We're playing That's how the NFL works.
We're playing
That's why you should be excited to schedule.
I know. But I but that's also why I would lose because I lose these games. Listen, Max. We're not
lose because of your attitude.
I'm not I'm not Yeah.
It is your attitude.
That I'm not playing in the game. Pick a side.
I'm just at but, like, you're not playing in the game. The the matchup favors the Eagles, so you fucking roof like, that's that's that's what your take is.
You'd rather play the Commanders than the the Rams.
Outside of this world, yes.
The Rams are a better team than us.
Correct. Yes.
Yeah. Get your head out of your
ass, Max. So you're afraid of this world. Yeah.
You are
afraid of this world. Okay. I'm afraid of this fucking room.
What room would we watch that in? That's an important 1.
I'm afraid of this room. We probably have to watch it here.
I will say that does make it
Max, you're gonna smoke us in the playoffs. Smoke them.
It will be such incredible.
It's not even close. Your passing game's great.
But I I forgot to I wrote down this, though, because we're talking about schedule. I am pumped to have a 4th place schedule again. That's the best. Yeah. When you get a 4th place schedule, it's like we get to just play the bad teams from every other division.
Nothing better.
This guy would know? Yeah. It's great. Listen. The commanders this year I don't know.
Why do you keep bringing the commanders up, Max?
I didn't bring this up, dude.
We're not a good team. We're we're, we're perfectly average team. I think that our offense is above average, but we're not supposed to be good this year. Yeah. So if we make the playoffs I mean, if we get a playoff win, that's, like, multiple singles.
Oh my god. Oh my god. If it was Eagles division rival,
you have to plant a flag in Max's seat.
I would rather have that than even a Super Bowl this year just like beating the Eagles in the playoff. Yeah.
Go full Jack Sawyer on that shit. Well, oh, you Is that his name?
Oh. You get You can't
put a plug in a fucking I would not. The oddball.
No. I would that?
No. You would do that? No. I would fight PFT. No.
And I would pepper spray you.
Pug wood macy. I'm trying to
fucking doodle plug. Imagine It's good.
Imagine pug standing there with a big thing of pepper spray.
Ready to go, bear mace.
Okay. Look. He actually does walk around with pepper spray everywhere he goes, so that makes sense.
No way.
I swear to god. Of course, he does. That's what I got.
Robbing us the other night. Oh,
he's gonna pepper spray him?
Yeah. Well, this was Hank's fault.
There was some I mean What? I don't know. I don't know. There was some crazy shit going down when I left the office last night, so I called and told them, and then I think I might have freaked him out. But it wasn't I wasn't, like, trying to freak him out.
It was Who?
PUG.
PUG also pays for the Citizen app to make sure that he get Oh,
he's a Karen.
He's a Karen. Citizen premium.
Oh, yeah. He's terrified.
Yeah. That nothing will scare you more than knowing the details of every crime that takes place anywhere near you.
Yeah.
In the city of Chicago.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's good. The people who clean the building were gonna rob us. Oh my god. These guys bear bear me.
I'm gonna try to figure out a way to get mace by pug. Why? I want to. Why? Because it'd just be funny.
It's it's supposed to be, like, the most painful thing ever.
I know, but it would be funny if we, like, stashed and bugging on them.
Do you wanna do a mace bet?
No. Do you
wanna do a mace bet for the playoffs
now? Yes.
Do you wanna do a
mace bet? Yes. Yes.
Why? It's a it's a
it's a bonus bet. Yeah.
It's a bonus bet.
I I'm down for it if Max.
It also doesn't take it's not like all of our other bets that take forever. Like, you just do it right away, so you could just pay it off. Yeah. I'll agree. I would
be the 1 that would have to shave my fat fucking face and get pepper sprayed.
What do you mean you have to shave your fat face?
I already had to do that. For what? What? Sixes are back. 1, 2 in in
a row. Wait. You have
Beat the Bulls. That was, like, 5 years ago. Wait. What oh, yeah. Are you talking about the fucking,
soul patch? Soul patch? Yeah.
That was,
like, the worst punishment any of us have had to do.
A pretty bad 1.
60 minutes of stand up?
I would have crushed that.
Max, I'll shake on it right now. That's crazy. Commander's eagles. You wouldn't if you had if you had the choice. Gets maced.
6 minutes of standover.
Yeah. That's what I was yeah. Yeah. You fucking liar.
Come on, coward.
What?
Mace bet. No. I'm not doing the maze bet. Let's it's not we can't even get there. We're not even there yet.
Let's talk about that. Sunk. Let's talk about that more. Fucking sunk down.
I had to piss so bad.
What?
You should piss?
Yeah. I
just piss right here.
I can't see that. That's so gross, dude.
What do you mean? I had to piss. It was going long.
Twice in the past 5 years.
Doing that for years, Max. Thanks for listening to part of my take.
I I had to I sunk down so you couldn't see anything. Alright. Base back. I jacked off during the show. No.
I'm jacking off right now. Alright. Let's do who's back of the week. We'll talk some college football as well. I'll I'll do the bracket for my who's back.
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Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit Coors Light.com/take. Okay. Who's back of the week? Henry.
My who's back of the week is Timothy Chamblet.
Yeah. Chamblet. Chamblet.
Paul Miller. Chamblet. He was the guest picker on the college game day when they made the announcement earlier in the week. There was a lot of, out No. Outrage, but a lot of, you know, chirping going on online being, like, oh, it's the SEC championship big game, and we have a, you know French sounding actor.
A French, someone with New
York City
guy. Ship actor from New York City as the guest picker. Like, how could we not do better? Then he went on stage and absolutely crushed it. Elite Ball Knower.
Knows way more than Desmond Howard.
Probably is listening to his podcast at some point. Yeah. Probably listening right now.
He's a sports freak.
I think he actually someone found out he's
a he's
a ringer head. Yeah. But
but that doesn't mean you can there's both.
If he listens to Russillo, he probably has heard of us.
Yeah. And I think I mean, that there's the you know, there's a lot of people that listen to both.
Yeah. Yeah. Timothy, come on
the podcast. Timothy, come on. Come stream
a game.
Talk some ball. Yeah. He did a good job.
Do you
think he is an actual ball knower? And and I I do, but there was some some people saying he was just, you know, reading lines.
A good actor?
No. Because, someone else posted, a picture of him when he was, like, 12 years old waiting outside a Broadway play trying to get Amari Stottomire, Stottomire to sign a Knicks jersey. I think he's a sports fan. Yeah. Yes.
He obviously, like do I think he's watching Machen? Maybe not. But I think he is a genuine sports fan.
I love the fact that it was also outside of a play. Yeah. It's got the acting
and the sports on. Look. Timothy Chalamet waited outside a Broadway show to get a Maurice Stoudemire's autograph when he's 14. Mhmm. I it was awesome.
Yeah. He did a good job.
Meme just said he did a lot better than JMU's gaspicker.
Oh. That's a good 1, Meme. So that's a good 1. Wait. How also
you got chirped at the the
It was brutal, dude.
It could with, like, add 5 seconds and Out of nowhere. Took his took his opportunity.
I was just I was actually because I saw Max and Hank here on Saturday. I was here with my kids, running around hitting some wiffle balls. Someone was hitting some dingers, Max. You you were lefty. And then I just started getting tagged in a tweet, and it was this kid who was kicking for $1,200,000.
And McAfee was like, hey. Do you know anything about field goal kicks? He was like, yeah. Double doing big cat. I was like, what the fuck?
Did he make the kick?
He missed it.
Oh, that's a shame.
Yeah. Real shame. Shame. Also Oh, they should've let a lawyer kick it.
Also Herb Street shout out that guy. He's probably AWL. Not to get personal. Herb Street The
kid the guy that said big cat? Yeah.
He stinks. He stinks at holding. Yeah. Bad holder. I don't wanna throw him under the bus, but he's a bad holder.
Shout out that guy. Should've made the kick. He had 2 chances. Damn.
And then Texas lost. Wu Chalamet's record.
I don't know. I know he had Ohio.
He picked Ohio.
Think it ended up being that good.
But
he had the 1 graphic where everyone else picked against him.
Yeah. Yeah. And then Ohio won easily. Championship championship Saturday was pretty awesome. Pretty fun.
Okay. You
went 4 out of 7. That's pretty good.
It's better than Us.
We're so bad.
Well, they're not picking against the spread.
Yeah. But I don't I don't know if I would win if I pick winners. Yeah. PFT, your who's back.
My who's back of the week is feeling young. Because I saw you tweet about this. We discussed it a little bit earlier, but there was a post online on x.com, the everything app. It's all happening on x. That was along the lines of want to feel old.
Jerome Bettis' son, Jerome Bettis junior, has enrolled Mhmm. At Notre Dame. Yeah. Jerome Bettis, he, I think, last played college football in 1992.
His last NFL season was 2005.
I think he's 52 years old. Yeah. His son attending college lines up perfectly with that.
He should be attending college.
That's a want to feel young, and we gotta bring back want to feel Youngs. Yes. And along those same lines, Sean Taylor's brother just declared for the NFL draft. His brother That's awesome. Wanna feel young.
Wanna feel young. He's declaring for the draft. Also wanna feel young? Deion Sanders' son is gonna declare for the NFL draft. That makes sense.
Yeah. Makes perfect sense.
Wanna feel young? John Cena doesn't have kids.
Wanna feel young? You guys will be 55 when, Juan So to's contract expires.
That's pretty making me feel
actually, that's not true. We'll be 54. We're not 40 yet, dude.
I was 15, not 16. You're right.
And how old will you be? 47?
Oh. Yeah. You're gonna be so old, Hank.
Listen. It makes me feel young. We're already old. You still gotta get to it. No.
I'm there.
You're you know, you're
we're good. No. I'm not.
We're about to turn 40. You've been having a midlife crisis.
Yeah. Yeah.
You wanted to buy a sick car.
Still do.
That's the the quintessential sign of a midlife crisis is being, like, I need a sick car.
Yep. I'm looking forward to just being my age. That's a little too much.
Forward to feeling old. Yeah.
Yep. It sure is.
I am I am dreading 40 just because I'm I've done the math, and I I definitely am over halfway.
I'm I'm not feeling that bad about it because I've mentally accepted. I've I've pretty much been 40 since I turned 38.
Yeah.
Do you think it's worse turning 40 or turning 30?
30 was 40. 40. 30 was awesome.
I love 30. You still feel good when you turn 30. When you turn 40, every like, there's stuff. There's injuries that you've just accumulated on your body.
Yeah. 30 was a great age term because 30 is when you turn 30, 1, you're young again because everyone was in their late thirties. You're like, oh, I'm not gonna get there forever. 2, you're finally like an adult that people kinda respect because you're like, yeah. I'm 30.
And then 3, you when you're 30, you can start, like, skipping out on things being like, yeah. I don't really wanna do it. I'm 30. You can't be like you can't be 25 and be like, no. I don't wanna go out this weekend, guys.
I'm tired. Yeah. You can't say I'm tired. When you're in your thirties.
You don't get tired. Right.
Twenties, you have no excuse. You gotta go balls to the wall. 30 is great. 30 was freeing. It was liberating.
Memes and I both turned 30 this year.
30 can be like fucking bricks.
We gotta some young blood in here. Yeah. We gotta get a young we're gonna get a we're gonna get a we're gonna do it right this year. We're gonna get an intern early in the summer. So we're gonna do it.
How old is Jack? 25? Okay. Alright. There is some young blood.
My issues that when I started working here, I was 19, and that's just like the the as I get older, it's like I still feel like I'm living. And it is this job is, you know, a young man's job. It feels like, you know, we're doing shit when I'm 19, but I'm Wait.
I thought you were 18 your first 19. Tom McShay video was 18? 19. 19. Okay.
And how old are you? 31. Okay. So we still got a few years for me to say that I've known you for half your life.
Yes. Hank, if you woke up tomorrow and Barstow was just not a thing, like, it it had never been a thing, but you are unemployed. You wake up and you have to find a job. What do you do?
I think you'd find a job.
Oh, you know that I would try.
I produce the number 1 sports podcast.
Yeah. No. I'd probably buy, like, a a van and just drive around the country for a little bit
Yeah.
And figure it out. That's sick. Everyone here would be good except memes because he's not he memes would be great. People would be like, what?
And you need references.
Are you gonna bite me in this interview?
Memes I if you want to, I
will fight you. Stuck with us for life
and it was a glowing letter of recommendation ever. I'll do it right now if you want 1 right now.
I'm okay. You sure?
Literally do it.
He's gonna leave for Gruden in a second. Oh,
but you'd fight you'd have to fight Gruden. Gruden would like that. He'd be like, feats of strength kind of thing. Let's fight. Alright.
My who my who's back? Let's talk about the college football playoff real quick. So we have the college football playoff. Alabama got left out. I feel no remorse for Alabama.
I thought there was a chance they were gonna sneak him in. I still think they would have snuck him in is if SMU did not come back in that game. It was basically the perfect way for SMU to lose in a walk off bomb of a field goal after coming all the way back. But I I don't really care about the teams that that are left out. It's like the, it's like March Madness.
We have, I don't know, an hour for me to feel bad, and then I'm like, I'm excited for more football.
No. You can't feel bad for Alabama. No. Because you can just say to Alabama, you lost to Oklahoma.
Well and the big thing with Alabama fans, which I do not understand, they keep saying, get ready for us to to schedule the weakest nonconference opponents possible. They lost all 3 of their games in the conference. Yeah. Their 3 losses were Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, and, Tennessee. Yeah.
You beat Wisconsin. Yeah. They they kicked the shit out
of the conference was not the issue. I don't think it was the issue for anyone No. That's on the outside looking at you.
No. Yeah. I don't think so.
You just have to win the games that you should win. Like, they were favored by, I think, 21 points against Oklahoma. Yeah. And I think they lost by 21 points Yeah.
Oklahoma. Yeah. No. It's a a pretty big deal. The only team that you could say the nonconference was maybe a problem was Clemson just because they had to play Georgia the first game, South Carolina the last game.
They lost both those games. If they had not won the ACC championship game, they wouldn't have been in.
Yeah.
So you could make the argument they could have scheduled cupcakes and and had 1 loss have been in.
Yeah. Also, shout out to Dabo Swinney.
Yeah. After the game Zombie.
After the game, he gets he gets on the mic, and the first thing that he says is SMU should be in the playoff too. Yeah. Like, right away. They said that that was the loudest cheer that went up from Clemson probably because they already knew that they were in. Yeah.
So they weren't gonna give themselves a giant cheer. But when they found out that SMU was also gonna make it
And I they're very happy about that. I really don't I don't I care for, like, maybe 2 seconds. And then it's like, alright. Let me look at the bracket because the bracket is awesome. I they're gonna have to tweak it.
It should be the 4 best teams get a buy because it's definitely a little lopsided, and it brings us to Penn State getting a dream draw, which I mean, they have they I think they're heavy favorites over SMU. They'd probably be heavy favorites over over Boise State. And so they could theoretically be heavy favorites in both their first 2 games get to the semis. Whereas Oregon, who is the best team in the country, who's the only undefeated team in the tournament, has to play either Tennessee or Ohio State in the 2nd round, which you could make the argument both those teams are not seeded correctly and should be seeded at 56.
Well, it's it's crazy that this is the way that it shook out. But first of all, Max, congratulations on finishing 2nd place in the big 10.
Yes.
Big deal. That was huge. Yep. And if you had won that game, you would have been fucked maybe.
Yeah. Defense of Penn State was so bad. Yeah. They Drew Aller, very good.
It was tough with that linebacker saying big 10 bully on his eyeball.
Oh, and they kept showing it. They kept showing it, and then
they kept Dylan Gabriel would just do Dylan Gabriel is so good at running right up to the line of scrimmage and then throwing a dart. Every time I think he's gonna take off, and he just throws it right at the line of scrimmage.
Big 10 bully.
But now if Penn State loses either of these first 2 games
James Franklin. Yeah.
Be like like losing to Washington in the playoffs.
Yeah. And Georgia I know that everyone keeps saying, like so Georgia's a 2 seed. Everyone's like, oh, well, Georgia is not Georgia. I understand that. Georgia has lost 4 games, I think, in the last 4 years and 3 of them 3 of the 4 to Alabama, and Alabama is not in this bracket.
Mhmm. So and I know Carson Beck is hurt, which might be a good thing. Yeah.
Their backup might be better. Actually, the real the real question is, how injured is their punter? Yeah. Because their punters are a fucking monster.
Yeah. Yeah. And, I'm just excited. I think it's gonna be great. I do think there's obviously some flaws in this system, but I don't care.
I I'm excited for football. I think there'll be an upset we don't think about. I think Arizona State's 1 of those teams that is so hot right now, and they were 11:1 with their starting quarterback. Why can't they go on a little run? Scataboo.
Yeah. Scataboo's fucking awesome. Notre Dame.
And, yeah, Marcus Freeman said that he had to
look up, Kurt Sigmarion.
He said, I I googled him.
Yeah. And he wins. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
Do we gotta we gotta in state? We got this Indiana going up against each other.
It does rock that we're gonna get to see playoff games in home environments. Yeah. That's gonna be very cool.
It's gonna be incredible. You guys have any any issues with it? I mean, Memes is a Georgia
fan. Only issue I have with it is that Boise State's number 3. I just I hate I hate it. I thought you were an astrogynty guy. I am.
How scared were you on Friday?
I wasn't scared. I was more just listen. The Ashton Genti, bot army has made it very ugly.
But when he jumped up to plus 400 in that first half,
did not They they have made it very ugly. They've they've just keep repeating, oh, snaps on stats. And just, like, completely erase the fact that he's playing 2 positions at a very high level.
Stamina. Yeah. All he's good at is stamina.
Yeah. And then we and then we just say, like, we've never seen Ash and Johnny before. We we have. His name was Melvin Gordon or Kevin Smith or Barry Barry Sanders. So you guys wanna go
pick national champions too Yeah.
Wednesday? We do Wednesday. Fill out your whole bracket. We do Wednesday. Oregon's really good.
We keep saying no one's good. Oregon went undefeated. And they Ohio State
might be good too.
I I'm so curious about Ohio State because it does feel like they I think they could win it all, and I think That
game should be in Tennessee.
Yeah.
They That's my not the
Well, no. Ohio State should be the
the the 6th seed. Just for vibes, though.
Or the 5th seed. Ohio State has a better resume. I mean, they beat Penn State head to head. I don't know. Seems like seems like they should get a little bit of, I mean, they they played on the field.
I, I think Ohio State could either win it all or they could come out and just be, like, a completely dead team.
Totally flat against Tennessee?
Yeah. Yeah. That absolutely could happen. Oh, yeah. Kirby Smart ripping Greg Sankey to his face was so funny even though this is just my favorite part about college football because this is I mean, it's Ash and Jenny thing.
Obviously, I'm bi well, I'm unbiased. But everyone has their wars and they fight to the death about it. Kirby Smart saying they put us on the road all these times. They played 8 games in the state of Georgia.
Yeah. They did play the hardest teams possible They did. Outside of Georgia.
This is the problem with the new super conferences. They gotta figure out a more balanced schedule, but we all knew it going into it, and they'll figure it out maybe going forward.
But What'd you think of the the setup that they had for the college football playoff committee? I didn't see I didn't see a buffet.
Yep. I didn't see Wings?
I didn't see any wings. I nobody was drinking beer.
Yep. A lot of genes.
They don't represent the true football fan out there. Was it was it Ward Manuel who was drinking Perrier Yep.
Water? Yep. Michigan. Disgusting. Disgusting.
Disgusting. Also, shout out, Kirk Herbstreets' son for committing to Michigan.
Yes. Very cool. Very, very cool. What are
you saying? Shout out to Kyle
Wong. Why?
He did he did a fucking a man tonight.
Oh, he did? No. No.
What are you sweet? Fucking a man. Oh, did he did he delete it? He edited it. Yeah.
I got tagged a bunch, but Oh, that's so funny.
He tweeted, fucking a man that Chiefs can't catch a break. Holy shit. Thank god
god. There's another button. Oh, yeah. But that's different from just fucking a man. Because when you tweeted, you literally tweeted No.
No. No. No. The original tweet was fucking a man. He tweeted the exact same tweet.
Oh, he did?
Oh, and then he edited it.
Fucking a man. What's the original tweet?
Oh, that's so funny. Last edit, 10:06. Let me look up the revision history here. Yeah. But he capitalized a.
I think when you did it, it was just fucking a man. Yeah. Alright.
Fucking grammar police. Pugh, you carry around mace?
Yeah. Alright. You carry around mace?
No. That's misinformation from Max. I have a pepper spray emergency, only for emergencies.
Will you carry it?
Only
in situations where I need to carry it.
Like, do you have it here? Maybe. Yeah. Well, that's
because he has to work with memes.
Yeah. That's
No. It's just we
even then
in in the in the New York office to some late nights, you know, walking home
late Yep.
Getting in, you know, train station.
So You got a whistle? No. You gotta get a whistle. Somebody was carrying
a mic stand around the office, and he thought it was a gun.
Oh my god. I didn't know you were a Karim. I didn't know you were a Karim. Tripod.
Do you have a, a medic alert bracelet?
No. Should I get 1? Yeah.
What is your fault?
Sounds like you should get 1. Okay. Anything you wanna say, Beams, about, numbers? Are are we are we past you almost quitting on Friday? We're past that.
Okay.
I I still work here. I'm employed.
Okay. Good. That was a tense moment.
I still work here. Yeah.
I still work here.
Yeah. And you still got we we we we did the numbers. You still have so many days before we can say that you're the worst of all time. But I got it. No.
You didn't. No. You didn't. PFT got it. Okay.
Numbers. Is memes picking his own?
Yeah. We agreed on that last time. For
forever? Okay.
3.
11.
I'll go 2. Hey, PFT. Have you ever got this on your own?
17. I'll go 70 7. 94 code.
17. Nope. 2. 21.
45.
80 1. Oh, I thought that was 21. 80 1. Love you guys.