
NFL Week 16, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders Beat The Eagles, The Chiefs Are Going To Win It All, College Football Playoffs And More
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NFL Week 16 and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes of the week (00:00:00-00:09:36).
We then recap every game from Sunday
Chiefs 27, Texans 19 (00:09:36-00:17:15)
Ravens 34, Steelers 17 (00:17:15-00:25:11)
Commanders 36, Eagles 33 (00:25:11-00:46:20)
Bengals 24, Browns 6 (00:46:20-00:54:59)
Lions 34, Bears 17 (00:54:59-01:02:15)
Colts 38, Titans 30 (01:02:15-01:10:35)
Rams 19, Jets 9 (01:10:35-01:17:15)
Cowboys 26, Buccaneers 24 (01:17:15-01:24:05)
Panthers 36, Cardinals 30 (01:24:05-01:32:56)
Falcons 34, Giants 7 (01:32:56-01:39:25)
Dolphins 29, Niners 17 (01:39:25-01:50:47)
Vikings 27, Seahawks 24 (01:50:47-01:56:38)
Bills 24, Patriots 21 (01:56:38-02:00:51)
Raiders 19, Jaguars 14 (02:00:51-02:05:20)
We then talk College Football Playoffs (02:05:20-02:21:18) and finish with who's back of the week (02:21:18-02:33:10)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
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Underpants, had a costly fumble and been hooked on Skronics.
Gave Russell Wilson some very difficult reads.
Mixing up his L's and W's.
The Ravens tight end touchdown duo was.
The answer to the question of what Air Force base is closest to Mnt Bank Stadium.
Likely Andrews Derrick Henry VIII took the.
Steelers for a bride while TJ turned.
Down for Watt, got outplayed by Lil John Harbaugh setting the ball downfield, giving shot, shot, shot shot shot shots to everybody. And let us be the first to.
Wish you all a very Lamari Christmas.
As the Ravens roll Baltimore 34 Pittsburgh 17 over this Sunday in Indianapolis where Jonathan Taylor Swift, coming off a game where he was called the anti hero, decided to shake it off and tell the look what you made me do as he ran to all the blank spaces on Sunday, amassing 218 yards on the ground and three touchdowns. Rudolph, the backup QB made some very shitty throws. Remember when Myles Garrett assaulted him? I would even say he blows. Colts 38, Titans 30 to Carolina where we say Murray Christmas to all and.
To all a Suge Knight as the.
Card'S playoff chances are on death row.
In this matchup of the two shortest QBs.
Chuba Indian in The Hubbard has turned.
Into a real young adult running for two touchdowns and the game winning score. Dave Panama Canales says it's not so easy to travel from west to east as the Panthers get their fourth win on the season.
The Panthers 36, the Cardinals 30. We head now to D.C. where Max was on scene for the Eagles and Commanders.
We had look, we had to land over Maryland where Jalen got hurts and was replaced by Kenny. Let's just kick it. Who did a great job of leading field goal drives all game long. Hey Braden, turn in your man card for being a pussy who couldn't kick the ball into the end zone one time today and allowed the Commanders to start at the 40 on every fucking possession with a chance to win the game. Late Devontae Smithy Elliott said, is it third down? Let me work it. Put my hands up. Drop it in reverse it ball's yours smicky wiki man yet. Ball's your smicky wiki man yet. Commander's 36, Eagles 33.
Thanks Max. We now head to the Meadowlands where Memes was there for a great game between the jets and The Rams.
It MetLife Stadium. The jets try to breeze deck the halls with bows of holly but turned into the nightmare before Christmas for Jets superfan fireman Ed as he wasn't shown on the jets jumbotron not one time. I Kyran I Kyran so far away I Kyran I Koran all night and day just to get away for 122 yards and a touchdown. Tyler Hig B said, I'm pouring honey on you goat. As he walked into the end zone for a go head score. Joshua Playboard Carty said he wasn't going outside today to seal the Rams victory for a field goal with a field goal.
Rams 19 Jets 9 takes memes in Chicago where Bears fans just want to be put in their McCaskets and go to die. The Lions decided to clown them one last time. Hey teach, remember that song you just said?
I remember that song. Boom.
Shot, shot, shot, shot. Shot. Shots everybody. As it was shots of Jameson as Williams scored an 80 yard touchdown and Bears fans won a shot to the head. Talking suicide in the third quarter, Jared Goff goes back to pass and fumble. Just kidding. He did a fake fumble because Ben Johnson has the bag deeper than the Mariana Trench. Someplace I'd like to be right now. The Lions 34, the Bears 17 to all our listeners, lock the door, get.
The lotion out and get nice and comfortable because it's men's sea time as.
The Vikings head out west to Seattle. Randy Jackson Smith Najigba said, that's going to be a geno for me dog. As he scored to tighten the game before halftime. Justin Timberlake, Jefferson probably going to be.
Popping a few bottles of Patron vacationing.
In the Samptons with Darnold stacking up.
First downs, reminding fans at home and.
Long island police officers that the yellow.
Line is not official.
The Vikings 27, the Seahawks 24. We finish in Western New York where Hank is on the scene for the Bills and Patriots or the Patriots and the Patriots and whoa.
In Buffalo, it was Draco season with the Book Bag May who started the scoring early with a touchdown to every.
Kiss begins with K Sean Booty double Dog, Dogger Cookie score twice until Ron Burgundy Johnson had a very important announcement.
And he needs all of you to stop what you're doing at once and listen.
Fumble recovery, touchdown and no one circles.
The wagons like The Buffalo Bills 24, Patriots 21.
Standing on the corner Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga. Such a fine sight to see. It's DTR won't make your PP hard cause you'll never see any TDs. Come on Cincy, you're looking frisky.
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Discover a world of strength and capability all behind the wheel of our favorite truck. The Chevy silverado. Okay, week 16 in the books as we watch the second half of the Bucks. Cowboys, which will recap at the end. Cowboys. Cooper Rush might be. Is Cooper Rush a franchise quarterback?
Cowboys better with Cooper Rush.
I don't know. Mike McCarthy's saving his job right before Christmas. So we got a lot of ball to talk about. Boys, we had Saturday football.
Yep.
Hank, did you watch it? Did you see it?
Sure did.
We had Saturday football. We got a Sunday football.
It's just awesome that finally we get football on Saturdays now.
Yeah, we finally get it. So. And we're going to talk a little college football because reminder, we do not have a show on Wednesday. It's Christmas day. We'll be back on Friday. That's going to be our schedule for the next two weeks.
Also have an hour long doc on Thursday though on YouTube.
Okay.
A little, little, little.
There we go. That's huge. That's huge. So, yeah, it will be Monday, Friday for the next two weeks during the holidays. But let's get into it. Saturday football. Chiefs 27, Texans 19. The Kansas City Chiefs are going to do it again. They're going to win the super bowl. They are 141 and everything is rounding into shape exactly as we expected and exactly as they always plan. Xavier Worthy is getting target. He. I think he had 14 touches. Hollywood Brown is back.
Yeah. The offense looks legitimately good now.
Yeah, their defense is still like is. You know, the secondary is not great, but they still make big time plays. In the fourth quarter, it just felt like they needed. Whenever they needed a sack or pressure. That second half they were all over CJ Stroud. They're going to do it. I just, I. It's crazy. But they're rounding into form between Hollywood.
Brown, Xavier Worthy, DeAndre Hopkins, Travis, Kelsey Gray. It's like they can go anywhere they want with the ball.
Yeah.
At any point they can. They can beat you in whatever way they want to at that given point. Like they, they just have so many options right now and they're looking good. And the games get. Winning is getting boring for Patrick Mahomes.
Yeah.
Who's yawning on the sidelines.
Yeah. They still can't block for Patrick Rollins, but it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
Because he, his ankle is not hurt. He ran for a 15 yard touchdown in the first half and you're like, oh, this guy's not hurt at all.
He said that his plan was to not run and then he got in the game. He's like, fuck it, I'm going to run.
Yeah. Because he just, I think his body, I think he's got a freak body that just can be contorted in all different directions and he'll be fine. And he bounces back. He's Wolver.
This is now their 14th win this season without scoring 30 points. That is now an official NFL record.
Yes.
Second place, the team they passed was the Frankfurt Yellow jackets.
Oh.
In 1925. Led by punk Berryman.
Yeah, Punk Berryman.
Punk Berryman. They had 13 wins without scoring three points.
The crazier stat with the no, no, game over 30. It's 31 points because they did score 30, I think against the Panthers. But the teams that have not scored 31 points this season in a game are the Kansas City Chiefs 14 and 1, the New York Giants 2 and 13, the Las Vegas Raiders 3 and 12, and the New England Patriots 3 and 12. That's the company.
Yep. That's what you're in. Yeah. The stat was most wins with 30 or fewer points.
They're just doing stuff just for fun. It's not even like, I mean, that, that, that, that's a stat like the Chiefs don't have to score 30 points. They're proving that they can do whatever they want. And yeah, I really do. Like, I watched that game, I was like, yeah, this is, they're rounding into form exactly like, like Xavier Worthy. Just like Rashid Rice last year, the beginning of the year, you know, he had that first game where he has that electric touchdown. Everyone's like, how could you let Xavier Worthy fall to the Chiefs? And then he has a stretch where he didn't look that great and they didn't really feature him much and he would get maybe one or two catches a game. And yesterday it was 11 targets and it was, I know he didn't have like crazy eye popping numbers, but he had seven catches, he had another three rushes, he had a touchdown. They're just rounding into form and they've got, they've got everything cooking.
So I feel like they're practicing getting in the ball a lot right now because they're, they might dial back on that a little bit in the playoffs, but they'll go to him a few times a game and they want to know that he's ready when it happens and he'll be ready. And the Chiefs. Yeah. Congrats to the Chiefs.
Congrats to the Chiefs. 3. Pete. As for the Texans, that game sucked a lot for them. Not only did they lose, but Tank Dell, horrific injury. That was brutal, Brutal, brutal. Especially because he was just felt like he was rounding uniform after his season ending injury last year. They also lost Jimmy Ward and Shaq Mason and their offense just, it continues like CJ Stroud struggled and Joe Mixon couldn't get running. And I just, I don't have any, any hopes for the Texans to make any type of impact on the AFC playoffs.
No, that was a tough, tough loss when tank dun went down. But we should say tough motherfucker. He held on to the ball after getting his kneecap dislocated.
Yes.
And you could tell it was serious. And it happened as he was catching the ball. Simultaneously, his knee gets bent to the side by some, some friendly fire and he hangs on to it as he rolls over as he's calling the cart onto the field. Unreal. He's at the hospital now and he's going back to Houston. So that's good.
Yeah, that is good.
But it's going to be a long, very long recovery.
Yeah. It also just as a side note, Zach Miller did catch it because that did happen. Remember when he basically went sideways and like you hear the news right away, Tankdale has to go to the hospital. You're like, oh, that's. I think that's because of artery and they got to make sure the emergency surgery. So yeah, really, really tough. C.J. stroud was obviously shaken up by it. And yeah, I don't know. I don't know where like the Texans are in the playoffs.
Yeah.
And they have, they now they're down now down to just Nico Collins in terms of their weapons that they started the season with, which sucks. And yeah, I don't really know. I don't know. Like their defense is still good but not like elite. And yeah, there's just going to be a bummer to watch because you're like, man, that season everyone had hopes that they could be one of those dark horse super bowl teams and it kind of just fell apart for him. And CJ Stroud has had a sophomore slump.
It's like, I don't know what D'Amico is going to do. Just tell him. Reimagine yourself as being a run first team, just ground and pound.
Yeah, but they can't even run the ball all the time. I don't like mixing. Wasn't able to run the ball in this game.
I don't know what they're going to do, but it is a bummer.
Yeah, total bummer. But yeah, the Chiefs are going to win three in a row. Does anyone feel differently? Like, I don't want them to. I'm going to be rooting for the Bills to beat them.
I think they will.
But I watched this game and I was just like, yeah, everything's kind of just starting to click for them and it's. Yeah, they're just going to do it again.
Yeah, we'll see you on Christmas.
There's like, how did that happen?
See you on Christmas. Patty Mahomes.
14 and 1 is crazy. I mean, there are, I know that there's been a lot of close calls, but still, 14, 14, it's hard to win in this league.
And they're getting Harrison Bucker back and healthy. He looked okay.
Why does he do the thing where he falls now?
I don't.
Every kick.
I don't know. It has something to do with his follow through.
Yeah.
Like making sure he gets enough, like, hip flexibility on it. I don't know.
Very bizarre. Very bizarre. Also, the Chiefs, the other part is their, their defense is starting to take the ball away, which I, I, I think I mentioned this stat a couple weeks ago where they were third to last in takeaways. They had 10 total through 14 weeks. They've had eight in the last two weeks. So it's all starting to work and it's all going to just. I don't really know what else to say. The Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl. Congrats to the Chiefs.
Yeah. It's inevitable.
Yeah. And your fan, the fans can post the meme and be like, oh, man, this game's going to suck. Just kidding. We won.
You guys will just figure out a way.
You'll figure out a way.
No matter what happens, there is a path for you and you will find that one path.
It's going to happen. It's going to happen. Okay. The other Saturday game, Ravens 34, Steelers 17. This was basically, I felt like it was a freaky Friday situation where the Ravens and Steelers switched bodies. Because it felt like the Ravens were playing Mike Tomlin Steelers football in that they were getting opportune, you know, turnovers. Lamar didn't play, like out of his mind. Good. And they just, you know, the Russ fumble basically changed the game. They're going in seven. Seven. Russ is going in. All he has to do is slide at the two yard line. Instead tries to jump and be a hero. Fumbles. And then the Ravens turn around and go on a 98 yard drive. And that was it.
That was tough because I thought Russ was going to score on that too. Yeah, he got in the open field and then. Yeah, just unlucky, unlucky play for Pittsburgh and then you couldn't do anything about Derrick Henry.
No.
I don't know what kind of angles Minka Fitzpatrick was taking. It's Derek, but they were the wrong ones.
Yeah.
Derek Henry, wrong angle.
Derrick Henry was just an absolute. He was a hammer. And the Steelers were the nail on Saturday and it was. He had 100. What do you have? 166 yards, I believe. 162 yards. He's the fifth player in NFL history to have four 1500 rushing yard seasons, which I always feel like running stats, like passing stats have gotten out of hand. Like running stats. Those count because.
Yeah.
They used to just run the ball all the time. So it's Edron James has four, Walter Payton has four, Eric Dickerson has four, Barry Sanders has five.
And I feel like we're seeing more of the good Derek and less of the bad Derek where he. He's slow around the line of scrimmage and gets hit for a loss.
Yeah.
Because that, that was the formula in Tennessee for a while. It's like, just keep feeding him. Eventually we'll figure out a way to break him on a long one. And then a lot of the times he just would have gains of like 1 yard, no yards, minus 1 yard. In Baltimore, it feels like they figured out how to get him on the edge and get him even going downhill before he hits the line of scrimmage.
Yeah.
And then you. Good luck tackling him if you don't take the perfect angle on him.
I feel like. Yeah. This thing they were missing last year.
Yeah, it's, it's. It looks pretty good. In Baltimore now. The Steelers had some. They're a little bit banged up in the secondary. Yeah, that was tough. Joey Porter getting hurt early. That, that didn't do him any favors. And they are getting Pickens back.
Yes. For. For the Christmas Day game.
Yeah.
Who. He's their entire offense. If you listen to some of our friends.
I mean, it looks Jersey Jerry. It looks like they don't know how to pass the ball downfield without Pickens.
Yeah. I mean, that Russ pick too. Marlon Humphrey, who's been incredible this year. That was also the game. It was. Yeah. Russ didn't play. He had to play clean football. The. The Steelers had to go into that game doing what they usually do against the Ravens where they basically just trade field position, get a couple fumbles where there. The Ravens put the ball on the ground, but the Steelers just didn't recover it. Yeah. And get to the end of the game and find a way to make one More play. And Russ just didn't keep him in that spot where they could be like, oh, look, we're just a TJ Watt strip sack away from winning this game.
Yeah. Stupid thing. I noticed after this game was over, it was like 30 minutes after the end of the game. Kyle Van Noy, he posts on. On Twitter a picture of him just decleading Russell Wilson. And he says, like, it's hunting season and it was such a sick picture. That's got to be an underrated. Part about being an NFL athlete is like, right after the pictures, you get to look at all these incredible pictures of you doing superhuman shit.
Yeah.
And be like, yep, that's me. Look at me, I'm sideways.
Look how sick I look.
Hitting the fuck out of Russell Wilson and making him look like a rag doll.
Yeah. Me smashing some guy.
Like, just having a professional photographer follow you around, like, instead of like here at barstool. The worse you look. Those are the ones that get posted.
Yeah. Hank just tries to find the worst pictures of you and post it over and over. Yeah, it's just memes. Just, you know, memes us to death.
You have a staff of people who are assigned to find the best looking pictures of you that they can get their hands on and amplify those to the masses.
You looking like a Greek God in action. Yeah, I agree.
That's why I want to play in the NFL. One day.
We need to hire a personal photographer that just makes us look good.
They'll be corrupted so.
Because we literally have the opposite. I mean, I don't know, Shane, with. With the YouTube thumbnails. I. Does he edit us to make us look ugly? It's crazy. We don't even look like ourselves half the time.
He has a filter where he can add 30 pounds to you.
Why wouldn't it be? Do you think it's. I feel like if you're scrolling, you'd want us to not look like we. We don't look well half the time. Yeah, I know that there's. Listen, we look when we look bad, naturally. That's funny. But he distorts us to make us look weird.
He's not gonna like this discourse.
I mean, does.
But it's truth, is it not? Is it the truth? Does he do that or. No, there's times I see my. I see myself. I'm like, why do I look like that? No. I look like an alien. Yeah.
One point. I think he added 40 pounds to my body and he drew circles under my eyes.
Yeah. Like, I have like a Weird. Yeah. Smile. I've never done before. I think he just kind of. I think he's just like a sicko. Just like. That's not a bad one. He just likes to. To see us in the weirdest positions. But. Yeah, you're right. Pfc, we need to get a photographer. Yeah. Yeah. Look at this. I don't even know.
Yeah, you're making the little. Yikes fit. We're both bad. Bad pig. The Skip Bayless thumbnail all time. Yeah, I think they look good.
Thank you. I appreciate that. By the way, the Steelers still can win out and win the AFC North. So they have the record. It's verse common opponents. They have a better record versus common opponents. So they control their own destiny now, will they? Because they have to play the Chiefs in the Bengals. But that wasn't for the AFC North. It was. Obviously. Makes it a little more difficult, but they. They absolutely still control their own destiny.
You know, as crazy as this is going to sound, because the last two recaps we just did. I kind of like the Steelers on Christmas.
Yeah, I like them on Christmas. I do not like them in the playoffs. I also. I have them in my Texans category of team that I'm not expecting to be in, like, the AFC championship game.
Yeah, but I like them on Christmas.
Yeah, I do. But it's also the Chiefs.
Yeah, that's true.
And the Chiefs, but it's Tomlin as a dog at home.
Tomlin, dog at home. Christmas. Everybody in Pittsburgh's gonna be at the. If you're not, you're not anybody unless you're at that game in Pittsburgh.
That's facts.
That's a fact.
All right. Anything else on this game? I wish these teams would just play all the time. It is fun. Although this was. This is the rare one that wasn't close.
This is a blowout.
Yeah. Russell Wilson's matchup didn't really help us because, like I said, it was. I was expecting this game to be close down the end and the Steelers be able to have a chance to win it. And Russ kind of ruined that with his fumble in his pick six.
The pick six was the big part of it.
Yeah. Well, I mean, the fumble was. They were going to go up 14, 7.
Yep. Fumbles happen, though.
Fumbles do happen. Okay, Sunday. So before we get to Sunday, shout out Scott Hansen. He did mention me and us for the witching hour, but also shout out Scott Hansen. He's now changed the tagline to seven hours of red zone football starts now.
Yeah. His apology that he issued On Saturday was great. First of all, it started out with a football in the camera.
Yeah.
Letting you know who you're dealing with here. And then he. He took ownership. He said he wrestled with the concept of whether or not to say commercial free football before he knew that there would be commercials. And I. I can only imagine what an internal struggle. Struggle that must have been for Scott Hansen. So he discussed that. He apologized, which I appreciated as a football fan.
Yes.
I think some people still know how business is done. The red zone is one of those entities. So thank you, Scott, for acknowledging it.
Appreciate it.
But can we maybe just lose the commercials? They put you in a bad position, Scott.
They put him in a terrible position.
They don't care about you, Scott. If they cared about you, they wouldn't have marched you out there with a gun to your head and made you say that.
Yeah, it was. It was very funny how serious you took it, which I ca. I liked it. He cares that much. Yeah.
I want him to take it extremely seriously.
Yeah, he was. He lost sleep this week.
Yeah.
That's a fact about. You know, the fact that people are like, you lied to us about commercial free football. Okay, so Sunday, Commanders 36, Eagles 33. Who would like to start? Actually, no, I want to start real quick.
Okay, you can start.
I'm gonna start and then I'm gonna kick it to you.
Okay.
I'm gonna start with just this.
Is that the gorillas?
That was a cackle, actually.
That was sweet.
You guys are hypocrites.
FSU Brando made a remix of that.
I love that clip. I love that clip.
We still.
It's either. It's either I love that clip and I'm not confident enough or wait, wait, wait.
Some. We'll get to you. All right?
Talk some.
Oh, Max, I just wanted to play the clip. It was funny.
It was a funny clip.
That's a funny clip.
I got to rebuttal that.
I liked that clip.
What was that clip Rebuttal.
What? That was Max laughing after they lost.
No, probably after one of our five turnovers that we had.
Yeah. Five to one turnover for the Eagles today. Pfd.
Go.
I mean, Max, go ahead.
Yeah. Here's some analysis. Number one, great hit by Max. He hit a plus 220. Commander's money line.
This is just a lie.
Moneyline bet that you put a lie. Max put in a moneyline bet on the Commanders.
I. I was pissed about the drop. I immediately said, this is. The Falcons are going to lose this game. Bet it and then cashed out within maybe 30 seconds. So you keep saying that, and I did not hit a bet.
Max made a great.
I lost.
I made a great bet.
You made a great bet.
No, you didn't make it.
Yeah, you made it.
Sick, dude.
You made a great.
Sick. That's so cool of you. Keep going.
Okay, Face, here's. Here's some stats. Jalen Hurts to A.J. brown. Zero completion, zero yards.
Oh.
Kenny Pickett to A.J. brown. Eight completions, 97 yards a tutty. And we can tack another 60 yards on there for pass interferences that he drew. So the chemistry, I'd say, is like best friend status between Kenny Pickett and A.J. brown. The Eagles pretty much wrapped up the division, so that's good for them. And, Max, it's tough to beat a team three times in a season, so that could be good if we end up playing you again in the playoffs, because we already beat you once. So then now it's like, oh, you don't have the pressure of having to beat the commanders three times. But as several smart people on this podcast have said, you know, everybody gets. Everybody gets injured. Everyone gets nicked up this time of year. It's not like the Detroit Lions are the only team in the NFL that's injured. Next man up. Got to play through it. Injuries can't be an excuse. And so someone really smart said that, so I wanted to make sure to amplify that. We're national sports podcast. Injuries happen. Next man up.
I don't think Kenny Pickett is the reason the Eagles lost that game. I think if Jalen Hurts plays the whole game, the Eagles definitely win that game. But I don't think Kenny Pickett is the reason they lost that game. Does that.
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense.
Braden, man has to get the ball in the end zone. The commander started at midfield. Every single possession, it's Luke McCaffrey. Every single possession. Okay, I don't understand. Like, that is a huge thing. Devonte Smith has to catch that football, and the defense can't give up 22 points in the fourth quarter. Yeah, that's what. That's what it comes down to.
Yeah.
None of that has to do with Kenny Pickett, Right?
Yeah.
And listen, Jaden Daniels was awesome today.
Jaden through a fourth quarter pick with two and a half minutes ago, and then, you know, I would have lost a game. If one of the best receivers in.
Football caught the football, then you know what he did? He went down. He threw his fifth.
He's a rookie. He's a rookie. That Makes very good plays and also very bad plays.
Yeah, he made some rookie mistakes, had two bad picks today, but he's still awesome.
If devonte Smith catches that ball, you are sitting here talking. Jaden Daniels is a rookie that. I wish that he didn't make that rookie mistake.
Are we going to do the IFS game?
I'm just saying, like you like that you like to just nitpick plays. But he's a rookie that makes good plays and he makes bad plays.
No, I always.
Almost lost the game.
I always say when he screws, he.
Should have lost the game.
He threw two bad.
If Devonte Smith catches that ball, he lost the game.
He threw two bad picks today. Put them in a position where they could have lost, but guess what? Where they should have fall back and then he won the game.
And Devonta. Yes, correct.
The last drive was very good, but.
The drive before was very bad. And you can't. And you ha. And you have to say both.
Yeah, you have to say both bad.
You didn't.
No, no, no, no.
You didn't say both. I said both.
He did say both bad things. You didn't say both till he said both.
He also had some dots, some down.
But Max is right. He was that little acknowledge the good with the bad.
I, I fully admit.
You weren't going to until I said it.
His picks today were bad, but when.
The game was on the line, when.
It mattered, when it was on the line. He threw an interception with two and a half minutes ago, Hank.
But then when the game was on the line again.
No, but really on the line.
The game wasn't on the line then.
Yes, it was.
No, because if it was on the line, he threw that pick, then we would have lost.
Right? That's true.
Game wasn't on the line.
Now I point back.
It was getting close to the line.
Okay, fine.
Max, he lost the one seed today.
Correct. It's fine.
That hurts.
Realistically though, the way that the rest of the games played out, they probably weren't going to get it anyway. The Vikings beating the Seahawks. They would have. The Vikings would have to lose the next two games.
Well, no, no, if you had won today, the Vikings could have easily lost the packers and then beaten the Lions.
Yes, that's the, that's like the only exact scenario that that could happen.
No, it could have been. It could have also been the Lions losing to the 49ers then beating the Vikings.
That crazy.
Yeah. Just one loss.
You had a lot of ways.
Let's see, let's see. How it shakes out. But odds are they weren't going to get the one seed anyway.
Well, then. No, that's not true. They were. They were very much alive for the one.
Odds are they weren't going to get the one seed anyway. They.
Are you worried about the defense.
You have one bad game. It's best defense in the NFL up for 13 weeks, and then you have one bad game.
But you got to admit the bad with the good. This is a bad game.
Correct.
22 points in the fourth quarter.
I. What did. How did I.
You want to.
You want to remind me how I started off this segment?
One bad game.
I said you. The defense cannot let up 22 points in the fourth quarter. Let's just go around the circle and keep saying stupid.
All right. So I guess I have to talk about what I don't like about my own team because that's how we should properly appreciate a win on this podcast.
Is betting against your team when they're. The game's almost over. Is that stupid?
You will bet against your team whenever you don't give a fuck about.
Your team would never.
You are watching your games wanting to lose.
Yeah, I'm not betting against them watching.
Your games wanting to lose.
Hank is at least consistent with that. I would expect that from Hank. I didn't expect that from you. You're better than that.
That was. That was a moment where I was like, this is going to lose. Maybe if I bet on it, they won't lose. I. I was putting that money.
Why'd you cash out?
Because I got bullied. I always get bullied.
There was.
You don't always get bullied.
There was a point when. When Kenny got into the game and Max initial reaction was, I hope Kenny plays well, but not really that well.
Do you regret that?
Because I regret that.
Because that was bad.
I regret that you didn't think that. That I will.
You think Jalen could take it? He couldn't take a little.
No, not pressure. And I just didn't. I just hate listening to the media.
You are the media.
No, we are all the media with x other media.
So can you. Kenny Pickett not.
Do you think you win that game if Jalen hurts. Plays the whole game?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Ball bounces a couple of weird ways. Who knows?
Also, I'll say another thing.
Have to talk about two things we have to talk about.
Okay.
Two things we have to talk.
Please.
C.J. gardner, Johnson getting thrown out of the game for. For being mean.
For words.
Yeah, for words.
Have you has anyone ever seen that in the NFL?
Hank has.
Number two.
Hank said he has.
I guess. I guess we don't know what words. I guess. Jalen Hurts has a concussion. The NFL needs to be consistent about when they're taking players out because there are hits that are so much worse than what happened to him, than that never get addressed.
He gave thumbs up. Yeah, he went.
He gave thumbs up, went to the medical tent, put his helmet back in to get back in the game, and then someone from the NFL took him out. Explain this. Explain Josh Allen against the Texans.
Oh, you have this pulled up.
How? What?
Why?
I get it. Player safety.
Oh, okay. Safe. All right.
Make it make sense. Make it make sense.
Make it make sense.
Memes told me to. Memes was like, the Josh Allen thing. You got to Talk 5 seconds.
5 seconds before he started recording.
Yeah, I. I know, but did Josh.
Give thumbs up that.
No.
Hold on, Matt. Hold on. Max, you don't know what they said. They could have said, hey, Jalen, do you have a concussion? And he gave thumbs up. Like, yeah, I do. Thumbs up.
The cj Gardner Johnson getting ejected for being mean.
I got you. We don't. We don't know what I got you there.
That's just so dumb. It doesn't.
It's not dumb. Well, you don't think they said, hey, Jaylen, do you have a concussion? And he went, yeah.
Doesn't deserve a response.
Thumbs up.
Yeah, I do deserve a response.
And we don't know what. What CJ said. We don't know the words that he said.
Do you want to come out of the game?
Maybe. Maybe they asked him, jaylen, do you want to come out of the game? Are you. You feel like you have a concussion? You gave a. Thumbs. Maybe they asked.
Maybe they had CD dudes. Hey, hey, cj, do you have a concussion? He was like, yeah. And then they threw a flag. They're like, okay, I'll just. I'll. I'll kick you out because you're concussed.
Where's he going? Did he say where he was going?
No, he just left.
He just left.
Jaden Daniel's last drive was awesome.
Yeah. Yeah. He had a few really good drives today. The legs were working. Not having Noah Brown out there is. Is a pretty big impact. Although, hey, credit to Jameson Crowder, who's still very much in the league. Caught two touchdowns today. Yeah. Max, you're back.
Yeah, I'm back.
Okay. Okay. So where'd you go?
I just. I just took. Did a little pacing outside, took a Lap.
What are they, the Anger Sharks?
No, I was good. I was good. I should do that more often.
Okay. That was just a quick timeout.
So I need a quick timeout when you guys are just being so dumb.
I also feel like. I mean, I was lost.
I think I kind of. I think. I think if we're being honest here, I think you had not even thought about the fact that the concussion spotter could have said, hey, Jalen, do you have a concussion? And they went, yes. Thumbs up like that dawning on you. Crushed you. Because you realize everything you thought about the thumbs up was a lie. Yes. I think I'm right.
This loss is pretty much designed in a lab to piss Max off the most the way that it went down, because. Yeah, kicking. Kicking an impact player out for words. Like two personal fouls on words.
Yeah.
Pretty crazy.
Yeah.
I don't know what he said. I don't know what they were looking at, but the first one was nuts because he says. He says something, then he gets punched in the face.
Yeah.
And then they throw a flag and they say, yeah, personal foul on C.J. gardner. Johnson.
Yeah.
And it's like, wait, what happened there? Nobody knows exactly, but the ref was like, right in between him, so I guess he heard something. But, yeah, it feels like this was just designed to get Max the angle.
As mad as possible.
Good job, NFL.
Yeah, no, Max got as mad as possible. I mean, I think Max here something positive. I think you guys win that game easily with Jalen hurts easily. The way Saquon could not run. Like he could run in the first quarter, first half without Jalen hurts in there. Because they can. They basically can play Kenny Pickett completely different.
They basically just said, we're gonna make Kenny Pickett beat us.
Correct.
And Kenny Pickett unfortunately could not do that. Yeah, but I don't think Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett did enough to win the game if Devontae Smith catches the ball.
That's also like.
That's why I'm also going to put this. Put this blame on Kenny Pickett.
Also. Saquon had a drop, too.
He did.
And so did A.J.
Brown.
Yeah.
SAQUON had a drop.
He had a drop. Yeah. Because he's dropped a good defense by Bobby Wagner. We should say that it was good defense.
Correct.
Yeah.
Also, so was the. AJ Was a good defense by Lattimore, but the devonte Smith, there was no one within three yards of him.
Lattimore did not look that good today. A.J. brown kind of abused him.
Yeah, it was.
It was not Looking great. He got a couple bad PIs, and he was getting cooked out there a little bit. Made me pump my brakes on Lattimore a little bit.
Credit to you.
Credit to me.
Credit to you. That's huge.
So, Max, we might be on a collision course. There's a chance that. I mean, the Commanders. What are they, 94 right now?
Now I want. Now I want you so bad.
Oh, okay, well. Oh, you want them the way it shakes out With Kenny or Jalen?
With Jalen.
Oh, with.
If Kenny.
Well, because Kenny wasn't the reason he lost the game, so I didn't know that was.
No, it wasn't.
I thought. Yeah, I thought maybe you were like, hey, him with Kenny. Because that would be the ultimate revenge.
I still think that I still would be confident if we had Kenny at home and a week to prepare.
Because if you're a man. If you're a man, you beat him with Kenny.
No, no, no.
I'm just saying, if you're a man, you beat him with Kenny.
Yeah, I mean, the way that you're talking right now. A week to prepare with Kenny. I'll take.
I don't get the kickoffs unless they were trying.
Your special teams is just bad, bad.
So bad that. And it's one third of the game.
That's. That's a thing that will rear its ugly head.
That's the thing. You got to be. What's. What's the quote? Two thirds of the game.
Two thirds of the game is mental. A third of the game is. Jalen hurts not getting.
No, this isn't. Nope.
Oh, it's a third of the game.
The NFL didn't want Jalen hurts to play today for some reason.
You don't think so? They didn't want him to play.
He thumbs up, and then he had his helmet on the sideline ready to go back in.
What if they asked him, hey, what month is it? And he gave a thumbs up?
I'm happy he's safe. Yeah, he's safe.
Me too.
I'm happy.
Player safety.
Yeah, player safety is important. But again, he might have just said, yeah, I have a concussion. Thumbs up. You didn't even think about that.
So, Max, should Sirianni shave his head?
Oh, yeah.
Old school. Also, huge, huge weekend for the commanders. Got RFK Stadium back as a site that was, like, in the middle of the night on Friday, Saturday morning.
That's huge.
And then following it up with this. Listen, this is. This is a game that we probably had no. No right to win. It looked like we don't apologize. No, I'm not gonna apologize. We lost this game like five different times, maybe more. So I'll take a win. It's hard to win in the NFL.
It's hard to win in the NFL, Max.
And okay, so Max, I'll take another on my team because apparently I have to do that. Dan Quinn, his time management at the end of the game was terrible. It was awful. But then Jaden said, doesn't matter because I'm Jamie.
I would actually argue that it was great.
It ended up working because you can't, you can't. And you can't leave time for Kenny.
No, you can't leave time for Kenny.
It ended up working out perfectly. But I'm a process guy.
Six seconds is actually maybe a little too much time for kp.
Yeah, no, that was, that unfortunately was not enough time.
All right, well, it's good that you're not yelling at us and getting angry.
I didn't get angry at all.
No, not at all.
I didn't get angry at all in this segment. So this was, this was a mature conversation between colleagues.
Cause. Cause number one of the loss was your, your kickoff specialist not being able to reach the.
I was, I, I, I was so mad about the kickoff team today. Every single time you brought it back to midfield. Every time.
And you give credit to Luke McCaffrey.
I will give credit. Sure. And I'll give credit to your return team for blocking.
Well, yeah, thank you.
But why, why couldn't you just put it in the end zone? Like we couldn't. Like that. That's it. That last drive is a different drive if he's, if it's starting from the 25 instead of the 45.
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, well, congrats, PFT. 93% chance to make the playoffs now.
Love it. Love it.
And holy shit, would it be great if you guys played.
First time since 2012 that we've had 10 wins. And looking at a record like this, I believe that's the first time since like 1991.
Yeah.
That it's happened.
That's crazy.
It's been a long ass time.
Do you have any last words for Hank? Because you were very upset at Hank in the gambling cave as well.
Hank's just a prick that just like wants to be so that all.
He just wants to exist.
He just wants to be so like you that there was going. I was going to yell at PFT regardless.
Right.
Like that had nothing to do with you.
The clip in question, we could play it. I literally started the clip by saying, I just don't want drama.
You're being. You're being totally serious.
No, no, he's been legit because he was talking about the Kenny Pickett.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The Jalen Hurts thing.
Yeah.
I just could just collapse in the playoffs this year so badly. That's all I want. That's all I want.
That's the only way you can hurt Santa.
Are you listening?
Sitting right next to you with my face right in your grill as Jalen Brown or as Jason Tatum just bricks the three that would have sent the team to the finals.
Is this to the Sixers?
Sixers are dead.
No, they're not. They can get to 10 wins.
No, Sixers are dead. Now my sole. My sole goal is to just somehow have the Celtics lose. And look at your face when it happens.
Oh, not look at your face.
Not winning the Super Bowl.
You're talking about the NBA season.
He's talking about the. He's on the NBA season. This loss ended at the.
No, no. You guys love putting words in my mouth.
Congrats, Max. Second place in the NFC pretty good.
And that's also not true.
Also, the laughing clip was incredible. Like, I. I played that because it's. It's a great clip. You laughing was very funny. I don't even remember what part of the game that was.
Yeah, I mean, one of those turnovers.
Yeah. I think it was after maybe the Diami Brown fumble.
I think it was Brian Robinson fumble.
No, because Brian Roberts were early.
Yeah, it was early. It was. The laugh was early.
Yeah. Yeah. Losing a game where you're five to one turnover battle is pretty crazy.
Yes.
It's hard to do.
That's really hard.
Jane Daniels is.
Yeah. Except for those pitch.
Not blaming Kenny.
Not blaming Kenny on the loss. But if he could like keep a drive to going together like a little bit longer, that would have been great.
Max, you think that by the end of games, opponents actually like Jaden Daniels as a friend because he's crazy. He spends like half the time between the plays talking to the other team and like joking around with them.
Him.
And they're like laughing and shaking hands and playing grab ass. I feel like by the end of the game, they're like, I respect that dude. Like, they kind of like him.
Him and Jalen Carter were like boys during the game. Jalen Carter is a mean guy.
Yeah.
Like, why were they. It probably took him out of the game a little.
Yeah.
Jaden, because he played.
Probably likes to play with a little bit of edge.
Yeah.
And you and he's too nice. They. They were. He was just dapping him up after like a good like pass rush.
He's a good play.
I hate that. I hate that.
Yeah, but for what?
If Devontae Smith just catch that, caught that ball, you would have hate that a little bit more.
Is that what you meant when you said it was the Falcons game all over again?
Yes. Oh, because you remember Saquon dropped a wide open pass that would have won the game.
I do.
Devontae Smith did that today.
I'm thinking about it.
So like.
But.
And then the Falcons went down and scored. Scored very little time.
It was Monday night Football. That was Jason Kelsey night.
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So.
So that's. That's what I was.
So if Saquon and Devontae Smith catch the ball, you one seed, correct? Oh, yeah.
Minimum.
Both of those. If two of like the best players in the league just catch a wide open ball to win.
So now the commander's Falcons game next Sunday night. Big game. Very big game. Falcons commanders.
Yeah. Well, not as much for you.
No, it's big.
But the Seahawks losing. I mean even if you lose like the Seahawks. I mean the Seahawks have to win out.
No, but it's a big game. Like you proceeding too.
You still have six seed potential.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's a massive game.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess that is a big game. Oh, the Packer. That's because the packers haven't.
I want your ass.
The packers are about to win.
Yeah. But then if the packers lose to the Vikings next week.
Got it.
We went out. Then I think we get the six seed.
You. You'd have them even if you're. If the Packers. You have the same record?
No, I think so.
The same record.
I think so.
Let's find that tiebreaker.
I've been screwing around with the playoff thing that I have no idea what's up.
The, the, the. The. The tiebreakers all are very hard.
So here's what I'll do. I'll put it. If the Saints win now, both teams 10 to 5. It's got the commanders over the packers. If they're both 10 5.
Oh.
So I would assume that. Yeah. If we can win out and the packers can lose one game, then succeed. Then we're looking at Tyberger commanders.
Yeah, it says right there.
Then we'd be going to the Rams.
Wow.
And then the packers go into the link.
That would be scary.
Max. Now who would you rather play?
I. I've already made that statement.
Yeah, the packers.
No, literally, like 30 seconds.
He wants. He wants you. He wants your ass with Kenny. He said he wants your ass with Kenny.
I would take her, but even with Kenny, I would still.
Okay.
All right. Pfc want to rip a couple ads? Good. Good job, Max. You didn't get so, so mad a couple times. You got a little mad. Not so. I mean, took a timeout. He had to take a timeout.
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Okay. Bengals 24, Brown 6. The Bengals still alive. Joe Burrow, that touchdown pass he made when he was falling down was so goddamn sick. And this was. We. We talked about this on Friday, but it was Joe Burrow versus dtr. And DTR should probably not be playing quarterback in the NFL.
Probably not. Probably not. And then Joe Burrow, what did. What did his teammate say about him? Like, not Batman. That's. That Superman.
Yeah.
And I guess T Higgin said that said he got. He got knocked down by his own player and was able to throw the ball with his body horizontal, his knee on the ground. And it just feels like the Bengals. I mean, there was nothing the Browns could do, really, with DTR as a quarterback. They couldn't put together a drive.
Well, the. I mean, the. The start of the game, they. They get a huge run from Jerome Ford. They get to goal line, and he fumbles on like the. Maybe the. The inch line. And it was like, all right, you. If you don't score there, it's not your day. And Joe Burrow, that was his seventh consecutive 3 TD, 250 plus yard performance. That's the first quarterback ever to do that in the NFL. He now has 39 touchdowns, 4,229 yards. He leads the league in both. He's having an MVP season without the MVP because of the way the team is played, but they're still alive. Also, Jamar Chase, I believe, will get the triple crown. He's. I mean, he. I know he just eclipsed 1500 yards. I feel like he has 100 touchdowns. How many. What does.
He broke his own franchise record. He leads the NFL in receptions. He's got 108.
Yep.
Receiving yards with 15, 10 and touchdown catches.
So. Yeah.
16.
Triple Crown.
So he's defeated everybody in the NFL, including himself. He beat all of his own records from last year.
Yeah. And he's. He's up. He's up four on the touchdowns. He's up. He's up a couple hundred yards. Yeah. It feels like he's going to get. I guess the only thing that could be close is receptions. But he's. I mean, he's been incredible. So it's in. This is all. This season is going to drive Bengals fans even crazier. Although not dead again. Week 17 is going to be that game against the Broncos, which I believe is Saturday. Hank. Saturday football will be massive because if they win that game now, they desperately.
Need the Steelers to beat the Chief.
The Steelers beat the Chiefs because the Chiefs will rest everyone. Although maybe they wouldn't because that would be. I was thinking about it. If the Chiefs win on Christmas Day and then they decide to rest their starters in week 18.
Carson Wentz.
That would be. I don't know exactly the exact amount of days. I'm going to look at it right now because it feels like it would be a massive amount of days. Be 1:14. I think it would be. It would be almost 25 days, 24 days that they would be resting rest versus rust if they rested their starters and got the buy. That's a lot.
That's.
That is. That might be too much. Don't you agree?
It's a lot because. Well, that's also like a little mini buy for Andy Reid to cook on though, right? Probably scheme something up in. In that Week 18 game, even with his backups.
True, true. But I. That's. That's. Feels like that would be a shitload of time to. To having everyone sit out.
If Mahomes is. Is dinged up at all after the Steelers game, they'll just sit them anyway.
Yeah.
If they win that game.
Either way. The point is the Bengals are still alive going into week 17, which at many points in the season thought wouldn't be possible.
We said they were dead like five.
Times, a million times. And I don't know. There's nothing really to say about the Brown season because DTR is playing right now, so it's not even watchable. Miles Garrett, I guess say this. Miles Garrett, the first player ever to get 100 sacks before turning 29 years old. That's Pretty cool.
Pretty good.
And he also probably wants to trade.
And you know what? I say trade him, dude.
I don't know why anyone would have any problem with that when he's, he's such an incredible player and he's like, yeah, I don't really want, I like, I'm 20, I'm about to be 29. Don't really want to be here for a rebuild. Because if I'm here for a rebuild, by the time I'm like 33 and we're rebuilding, I don't, I don't know if I'll still have it.
I mean, most of his career has been for rebuild.
That's right.
So infuriating. He should not. I wouldn't want to do that again if I were him.
Hell no. Hell no.
Free.
Yeah, I, I, I, I would love, I would love to see the Bengals somehow crash the party out. It's going to be, I think, I think they still need the Colts to lose and the Dolphins to lose, so they still need a lot of help. But again, they're still playing for something, which is cool because that's really what it like I want to see Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase still playing for something.
Just from a, a pure enjoyment standpoint. Stefanski not playing Jameis, I guess he's got a bad shoulder. Right.
Yeah.
So we're going with a shoulder excuse. But at least in games where you're coaching Jameis Winston, it makes you use your imagination as a head coach because he gets you into some jams that you wouldn't normally be in.
Right.
And you have to figure a way out of them.
Right.
And then you can actually use the whole playbook and have him throw the ball downfield. It's gotta be a lot more fun to coach him than it is to coach dtr.
Yeah.
So hopefully once he's healthy, Put him back in.
Yeah, put him back in. Get him back in. I don't think they're going to put him back in, but get them back in. Make us, make us like, enjoy watching Browns games, please. Yeah.
For a, for the ratings we'd really appreciate.
For our, for our personal enjoyment. I'll be, I'll be selfish.
Yeah.
I want it for myself.
I want it for the, for the good of the league.
Yeah. For the good of the league and ourselves. Yeah.
There, Listen, there's probably like 50 or 60 first time watchers every weekend for Browns games.
Yeah.
I've never seen a football game before.
And they want to see, they want.
Let'S give them A show.
Let them see Jameis. Let them see Jameis. Okay, moving on. Next up, Colts 38, Titans 30. This was a crazy game. Oh. Oh. We got a touchdown. No, we got a pick. The Bucks have found every single way to up this game. That was crazy. That was crazy. All right, actually, we're gonna do the Lions, Bears. I was gonna do the Colts, Titans because I thought the Bucks were gonna maybe score, and I wanted to half watch, see if Mike Evans so we could get the TD parlay for the people, but that doesn't look like it's in the cards tonight because that was an insane interception. How do you intercept that? The Cowboys. No one wants to play this Cowboys team. No one's going to have to play this Cowboys team after week 18, but no one wants to play this Cowboys team.
That was crazy. Just took it away from all the way down.
Oh, no. Do you have to play this Cowboys team?
Yeah, I'll be there, though.
Okay. You're going to save the season. You have to play.
Yeah. Wait, so you just said that you just.
No, I. Seriously. No, I was saying that because they're, like, actually playing decent football right now. All right. Lions 34, Bears 17. I don't know what to say other than the Lions just clowned us, which I expected. But the fake. The fake fumble play that Jared and Ben Johnson cooked up, that was extra clowning.
It's crazy. Like, how. How many more trick plays does Ben Johnson have? If he's. If he's asking his quarterback, hey, can you accidentally on purpose fumble the ball, fumble the play, and then fall down and then stand up and throw it? Like. That is not a. That's not a play that a normal, sane person would use in a matchup. No offense, Big cat. No, in a matchup against the.
No offense taken. I mean, well, they said they liked the look against the Bears. I. All right, so here's what I'm hoping. Ben Johnson was just. He's just trying to make the Bears pay even more money for him by. Because there was a report that he's intrigued by the Bears, which I don't even. Like. He might be just intrigued. Like, how can they be so bad?
I'm interested.
How has this franchise been around for 105 years and been this bad?
But he also said he likes the sound of Caleb Williams pass.
He likes the way the ball. How the ball whistles.
Yeah, it loves his balls.
It would be funny if he came out and was just like. Yeah. When I said I was intrigued by the Bears, I was literally Just like, how is this possible?
We all should be intrigued by the.
How have they Never had a 4,000 yard passer, 105 years in the league.
To invent a new genre of play, the stumble Ruski. And then pull it off. It just the balls that it takes to do that and they're good enough to execute it. It's crazy.
And then so we, when we were.
Saying last week, like, I don't know how much new stuff the. The Lions can try on offense with all the injuries they have defensively, how many more games can they keep winning? I think Ben Johnson just has a never ending bag of tricks.
Deepest bag. And then to add insult to injury, I did text our good friend Jared Goff and I said, was the fake trip play necessary? And he replied, sorry, big guy. Next year is the year he. Big guy.
Yeah.
Which I've also thought about this. Maybe he knows his offensive coordinator is going to the Bears. That's why he said next year's the year.
Or he was just saying that to get your hopes up.
That also could be the case. Yeah. I don't know. What. I mean. The Bears suck. The defense is awful. Now Caleb was. I mean, he had a nice pass to Keenan Allen. I don't really know. I mean, there's just. The whole team just bums me out so much.
Do you think the big guy was meant as like a pat on the head?
I think he's probably saying I'm fat.
Yeah.
Yeah. It is what it is.
It's tough.
Yeah. I mean the whole. I mean, the Bears are a four win team that kicked a field goal down 20 points on fourth and seven from the 12, Thomas Brown. There's the door.
Well, yeah, they don't really have a coach. He should be coaching up in the booth.
He should be coaching up in the booth.
Put the head coach up in the booth. Let's see what happens.
It's, it's, it's hard. I just wanted to end. We have to play one more game on national television on Thursday night. But the Lions deserve all the credit. They, they bounce. They get off the mat. They're seven and oh, on the road this year, which I know there's, you know, talk like, can the lines go on the road? Yeah, they can. They're seven. Oh, on the road. Jameer Gibbs also answered the bell of like, can he, can he be the guy? Because he carried the ball 23 times at 109 yards. So yeah, the Lions are just. That's how a good team bounces back. That's What a good team looks like when they, when they get punched in the mouth. They come and take care of business. And it was never in doubt.
Jared Goff has, has learned how to defeat the cold. Yeah, the narrative's over.
He looks good. He looked great today. And the, and the only, the only, the only thing that was, the only cold that bothered him is I, I thought for a second that Dan Campbell's nose was gonna fall off. He had the reddest nose of all time.
Very, very red. You can tell that shit was running probably crusting over a little bit.
Yeah, the Lions are just very, very good. And their defense, I know they have some no names but they, they played well and so. Yeah, I just want this season to end. The only thing I'm, I'm rooting for now is that I want Caleb to. So he's the first rookie quarterback in Bears history to go over 3,000 yards. I'm hoping that he can. Somehow I think he'd have to throw 364 yards twice. So average 364 yards to break the all time record for Bears rushing or, sorry, passing yards in a season. That's all I'm rooting for. Defeats graphic. Yeah, the Bears, this is. So Caleb went over 3,000 yards. That is the 13th time the Bears have had a passer over 3,000 yards in their 105 year history. To put that into perspective, Matt Ryan and Eli manning both have 14 seasons over 3,000 yards. So Matt Ryan and Eli Manning by themselves have more 3,000 yards than a team playing football for 105 years.
It's pretty crazy. So right now you guys are drafting ninth?
Yeah. This is the worst year to be bad because so many team is bad.
Every team's really bad.
Yeah.
Have you thought about what direction you're going in the draft?
I would like an offensive lineman, but I don't know if there's going to be one there. So then just take defensive line. Whatever it, whatever whatever the draft pick is, it has to say line.
Take a big guy.
Has to be line. That's it. It just has this be line with a letter in front of it. That's it.
Okay.
Nothing else. If you, if you tell me anything else, I'm sending it back. And Ryan Polish should probably not be the one making the pick because there's some things that have. Just listen, I like the guy personally, but we took a project third in the third round who can't even be on the field from Yale. Yeah. And then we took a punter in the Fourth round. Who I like Tory Taylor because he had a sick punt today.
But aren't you glad you took Tori Taylor?
Yeah, maybe not maybe. Probably could have used an offensive lineman.
Yeah, he's pretty good punter.
Congrats to the Lions, though. 13 wins is the most in the history of the franchise in a single season. So that's pretty awesome. And, yeah, they keep rolling and they. They have endless trick plays that will just keep coming out. And I'm hoping that was Ben Johnson showing. I mean, the McCassey. Even if he was showing the McCaskeys what to do, like, they don't know.
I don't see. I'm kind of with you. That. That might have been more of a negotiation thing.
Yeah.
Like, he.
Price just went up.
He knows they want him.
That was another million dollars.
But now look what I can do.
Right? Right.
You're gonna have to pay a premium again.
Take out the. Sorry, big guy part. Next year's year. Ben Johnson might have told Jared, like, hey, I'm gonna go to the Bears.
Last dance.
Yeah, I'm going to the Bears.
Yeah.
I'm intrigued by. I want to see just how dysfunctional this organization could be.
I want to hear his balls whistling by my ears all day.
Here. Here are those balls. All right. Colts, 38, Titans, 30. This was a crazy game. And the fact that it started seven. Nothing. Titans, then it was 38. Seven Colts, then it was 38. 30. Final. But I. I'd say, because this game doesn't really have a lot of meeting. I know the Colts are technically still alive. This game was the game. And everyone knows this. Listening to this right now. Every year in the fantasy playoffs, there's one guy who, if you have them, you won, and if you went against them, you lost. And it's just cut and dry, black and white as clear as that. And that was Jonathan Taylor this year. This was the year, if you go, you could have the best team in the world. And you go up against Jonathan Taylor today, who had 218 yards and three touchdowns, and you're gone.
Well, also, if you went up against Jonathan Taylor last week, you probably won. A lot of Jonathan Taylor teams got bounced last week.
Yeah.
And we're. This is probably like a big consolation prize game.
Well, I have Jonathan Taylor team. I had a buy.
Okay.
Yeah.
Congrats.
You could have a buy.
Congrats with Jonathan Taylor. So Jerry had Anthony Richardson starting for us today.
Jerry Joc.
Joc. And it's gonna be a big Monday night game for the boys. We need Brandon McManus to get 13 points.
Okay.
And then we advance to the finals.
He can do that, Jerry. You can do that.
Give him a pump up speech, Jerry.
Yeah. Anthony Richardson, his stat line was very funny today. He was 7 for 11, 131 yards, a touchdown interception, but did have also 70 rushing yards.
Yeah.
It felt like when he threw the interception, Shane Steichen was like, no, we're done. We're done throwing today. We're not doing this anymore.
So one thing I noticed on, on both of Taylor's long touchdown runs and Richardson's long run, Quentin Nelson, you remember him?
Yeah.
He's still awesome and he's still just beer games, bowling people over, just destroying people out there.
Yeah. Very fun to hang out with at beer games, beer Olympics.
He's one of those guys where you stand next to him and he. This is a different species than I am.
Fun fact. I chugged faster than Quentin Nelson at beer.
That's fun.
I told literally the whole place probably too many times because I was drunk.
That's off of three beers. That's a man.
Yeah. And Quentin Nelson was like, okay, dude, you've said this to me 17 times. Why are you so drunk off three beers?
But sneaky fun game.
Yeah. Yeah. This was. It was, it was up and down fun game. The. So the only. So the Colts are technically still alive. What did the Colts have to win out and then they have to have the Broncos lose out and I don't know. Can you, can you do that for me real quick?
Colts still alive.
Yeah, I also, we are. We should have mentioned this on Friday, but Anthony Richardson is on Tebow watch. I don't know if you knew that. So he's at 47.7% completion percentage this year. Tebow. Tebow has the worst completion percentage for a starting quarterback in the season at 46.5%. So today actually was a good day for Anthony Richardson because he went 7 for 11.
Okay. The Colts can make the playoffs if they went out and the Chargers lose out.
Okay.
So the Chargers would need to lose to the Raiders and the Patriots.
Got it. Probably not going to happen.
Probably not going to happen.
Probably not going to happen.
But it could also.
Mason Rudolph, not the guy.
Not the guy. You were going for a spark. He's not a spark. We've. We've seen enough Mason Rudolph to know that that's not a spark, guy.
No, he's not a spark. This game was a spark. This game was more fun than we expected it to be when we were getting ready for this slate. But yeah. Mason Rudolph not spark.
But you know what? The Colts are going to remember that they played the Titans.
Yeah.
They're going to be like, I remember. I know who we just played.
We remember that shit. Titans go to 2 and 13 also. Really? 2 and 13 against the spread. Sorry. Are they 2 and 13 as well?
3 and 12.
3 and 12. But they're 2 and 13 against the spread. It's not great when you say your team's not soft and then you give up. 335 yards rushing. But you know what? Because I like Brian Callahan, positive side. His team was down 38. 7 and they did not give up. That's not a soft team.
That's true.
That is not a soft team.
They kept fighting.
Yeah.
When they come off the field, they know they just played us.
Yeah, exactly.
Listen, they. There's going to be no mistaking. We were only able to do that against the title Titans.
Remember? The Titans. Okay. Do we have anything else from the Colts? Titans? I don't think so. We're watching Baker Mayfield try to get the Bucks down the field to maybe get Mike Evans touchdown, which would be incredible. Incredible.
Incredible.
But I don't think it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. I don't think it's gonna happen. Do you want to. You want to announce it? Hank here. Because they're going fast enough that we could just. You could just say it. Yeah.
The Bucks have the ball somewhere near the red zone.
We could do our recap of this game while we do this.
Baker Mayfield snaps. He drops back. He's looking at Mike Evans. He fakes. Is he complete to not Mike Evans?
Yeah. I'm impressed that the Cowboys did not give up.
How about Ezekiel getting a touchdown, huh?
Yeah.
Just rolling them out there being like, hey, Zeke, you've been around. Give it. Get up for the hometown fans. Real quick. Quick. Let you take one.
Yes.
Bow before him.
It's Christmas time.
It was bad. Let's give him a bad game for the Bucks.
It's been a bad game for the Bucks. But I. Again, I'm. I'm more impressed that the. That the Cowboys just have not given up. Like, they've. They have no reason to play, and they've kind of been playing good football recently.
Yeah. I do think that McCarthy saved his job a couple weeks ago.
I do, too. And. And Jerry. And Jerry can be like, hey, you know what Win before Christmas feels like? The win before Christmas means more. It counts as a double win.
So Jerry always does the opposite of what we think he's going to do. We've. We've Pre. Fired Mike McCarthy several times on this podcast.
Yeah.
And then Jerry's kept them around is this. But remember, we're saying McCarthy has done enough to stay around.
We.
And then Jerry's like, we got to move on.
We've said this before, but like, Jerry Jones from the 90s is not Jerry Jones of the last, you know, 20 years. He kept Jason Garrett around for five years too long.
Maybe we've just got Jerry wrong. Maybe we just can't get inside that head of his.
He. Mike McCarthy's great coach. It could all be true. All right, ready, Hank? Yeah.
There was an injury on the field. The Bucks are huddled up. They're going to call the Mike Evans play.
You sure?
Score. Touchdown.
Yeah.
This is it.
They really need to.
They really, really need to.
Stephen Shea is watching in the other room being like we're. The game's not over. He's been saying that for the last three hours.
26:17 Dallas with 243 remaining and the.
Bucks only have two timeouts. So they have to score before the two minute warning to have any chance of. Of possibly winning this game. And they just showed the graphic in. The Bucks losing this game is very detrimental to their chances of making the playoffs right now.
The Falcons would have. They'd be ahead of them.
They would be ahead of them.
All right, here we go.
You'd have to. You'd have to beat the Falcons for Stephen Shea.
Mike Evans bottom screen.
Baker Mayfield snaps the ball. He looks at Baker.
He's throwing it to him. That's not Mike.
Touchdown Bucks. Whoever the.
That's not Scotty Miller.
Scotty Miller. That would be Scott right now on.
Side Ryan Miller on the Steelers.
Yeah, we knew that.
It's not. That's not fair to us to have two.
But another Miller.
Hard working, scrappy.
That's also where Mike Evans usually is.
Right. Catching touchdowns. Yes.
Damn, Hank. All right.
All right.
We'll go to the next.
Now declared onside kick coming up for the Bucks.
Or do they kick it deep? I think we. Oh, no. They could kick it deep.
Yeah. Two timeouts.
Two timeouts. In the two minute warning, what would.
The thing to do be? What would the wrong decision be?
I don't know. And also, Hank, they're not gonna. They're not gonna go for a touchdown. So that's out.
Yeah, I think the wrong thing to do.
Yeah.
Beat a onside kick it.
No, I. Yeah, I think you got to kick it deep because you can win with a field.
That means that Todd Bowles is going to onside kick it.
Yeah, probably. Yeah, that's definitely what's gonna happen. Okay. Rams 19, Jets 9. This game was weird.
They're just strange.
The jets opened the game with a 99 yard touchdown drive. They did not punt a single time this game. And they scored nine points.
The first team in 25 years to not punt and score fewer than 10 points.
Yeah.
How did that happen, Memes?
This game was incredible.
Yeah. Meme said that they're the most electric watch.
Yeah, Well, I noticed we're the most entertaining team in football.
I noticed.
That's just not true.
Put out saying that they turned into the greatest show on turf today.
No, no, no. When the jets get eliminated from the playoffs, they turn into.
They scored nine points or nine points.
And then they didn't score. After I press in on that tweet.
Ah, there was a great drive.
It was a great drive.
So. Yeah. So what happened today, memes?
The weather happened. A lot of wind, a lot of drops. That's pretty much it.
Okay. Fireman Ed. Fireman Ed continues to be banned from the jumbotron. Yeah.
Fireman Ed made the game about himself as soon as we lost.
What he say?
He put up a post saying, like, I once again, I've been frozen out from the jumbotron.
Yeah, they keep. They keep squeezing him out from the Jumbotron.
Yeah. Very sad.
We need to. We need to get in touch with Fireman Ed. Not to talk to him or have him on the show, but just to then get him in touch with Marlins man.
Okay.
Because I feel like they need to talk to each other. Because if Fireman Ed was like, hey, I got squeezed out. Marlon's man be like, dude, same with me, jets nation.
I'm at the game. But this is the second home game in a row I'm not included on the Jumbotron. To do the chant with the Scott and Jetman. Oh, man, they froze him out.
That's crazy.
What he needs, he needs to pull a Tebow and, like, rescue somebody in the stands having a medical emergency.
Yeah.
And then Jet. Then Jetman is sitting over there with his thumb up his ass and Fireman Ed steps in action, saves a life.
That would be nice. Yeah.
I'm gonna need a statistic on how many games we've won with Fireman head on the Jumbotron.
And not probably bad both ways.
Yeah. Yeah.
If I had to guess, the Rams are a very big issue for my pinky because they're going to win the NFC West. Now they control their own destiny. And they have gone from a 1 in 4 team to a. What are they? 9 and 6. So they're 8 and 2 in their last 10. They're one of the hottest teams in the NFL.
It was kind of crazy. Although you don't think of Sean McVeigh as being a cold weather coach, they're kind of built for it a little bit. Now they're just running the football like Kyron Williams. He's so consistent.
Yeah.
He's just always out there getting just enough to win.
And their defense played well. And it was cool to see Tyler Higby back from his ACL injury. This is first game back scores, game winning touchdown. Nice jump into the end zone. Yeah. I mean, this is a bummer to watch. Memes. I don't know how they could be exciting in any way.
I'll give credit to memes. When they missed that field goal, memes correctly was like, yes, that's good.
Yes. I also knew they were going to miss. It was a 49 yard field goal into the win.
Yeah. And you want them to lose.
Yes. I think it was a perfect game up until Olu Fashano got hurt. He hurt his foot and then how bad the. No, we don't know. But a lot of people thought it was his Achilles.
Oh, no.
But it's his foot.
And so right now you have the eighth pick. This really is the worst year to be bad. You're 4 and 11 and you have the 8th pick.
But I think. I think this is actually good for the jets, though.
Okay, go ahead. Jamis Bridge. Quarterback.
Quarterback. But there's so many bad quarterbacks. You let the other teams take that, so it limits your options.
Then you get the good quarterback.
No, that. No, no. None of these quarterbacks.
You're not taking a quarterback this year. Not.
Not in the first round.
Okay.
Because what? Shador. Cam Ward. Once they go, it's going to.
Yeah. Yeah.
Then you need that third team to take the reach quarterback.
Yep.
So that limits you to take the best player available. Hopefully a D line that drops. Mikel Williams would rock.
Mm.
Or Mason Graham. A lot of people say we have.
I want him. I want him.
The Jet. The. The Bears have lost nine in a row and have the ninth pick.
Yeah, we're. I. It's crazy. It's crazy.
Like the Bears are the worst team in football.
We accidentally tanked, but we have the ninth pick. I got it. It's. It's. I think someone tweeted it, but like the A4 win team last year at this time would have, like, the third pick. Pick. How many wins did you guys have last year?
I think we had four.
Yeah. You're the second pick. It's crazy.
So I'm looking. What's the teams that are now with 4 wins and 3 wins? Do any of them play each other?
I'm not sure I would.
Does Jacksonville play Tennessee again?
Yes, they do. Yes.
That's gonna be a big game.
Oh, my God. Oh, you could hear Stephen Shea go screaming. Oh, I don't think that was actually potential fumble.
Either way. Third down, stop by the Bucks are gonna get the ball back. A minute and 50 left. No timeout.
Yeah, there's no way that was a fumble.
No, there's no way.
Freaking out for no reason.
He is. He is somehow watches so much football and still doesn't really know how football works. I. It's actually. He knows how football works. He just always takes the most optimistic view of things, even though the facts are right in front of his face.
I can hear what he's saying. I'm pretty sure I just heard scream. Because he realized that it wasn't.
It was never a fumble. He was always. He was always down. He couldn't have been more down. Also always crazy that Vita Ve does not wear gloves.
It was funny watching him.
That was. He was. Jake Ferguson was laid on the ground. Like, that's. That's what Stephen J. Does, though, where he'd be like. Ball like, dude, are you watching this?
It was very funny watching him tackle Turpin in the first half.
Yeah.
It's like the smallest player on the field and by far the biggest player on the field.
Yeah, the. So the Bucks have a chance here. All right, so Rams are dangerous. I don't know. They're gonna. What?
I don't think so.
Why not?
In the cold. You need them to play Philly in Philly.
Okay.
They just beat me.
Stafford had 100 yards.
Yeah. Kyron Williams.
And we would just go in. We would. We would go for it inside our own third.
I did like the. Jeff Ulbricht was just like, it. This season is over. He was basically coaching it like a bowl game. Yeah.
It was incredible.
He was just like, I'm going for it all the time. I don't care.
At the end.
Yeah.
Yeah. The not punting thing is a little bit of a fake stat because I think a lot of teams would have punted a few times.
Yeah. No, there was only because they did go. They went for it on the. On in the red zone. Yep. I think they only went for it on their own side of the. The.
They went a couple times.
Like, maybe twice.
The field goal at the end.
Yeah.
Off turnover on downs.
Yeah, it was kind of. Yeah, it was fun to watch.
Three turnover on downs.
Three turnover on downs. But how many were on their own side? How many were that, like, would have been punting?
Definitely two.
That was. Oh, my God. He's screaming.
What a play.
Mike Evans bomb.
Something big is about to happen.
Oh, man. We're about to watch it. Maybe it's a Mike Evans touchdown. That would be incredible. Oh, oh, oh, Baker. That was a crazy play by Baker.
A little shovel pass.
Rashad White. That was a pretty nice play.
Oh, they fumbled.
That's very funny. Was he screaming about that?
No, he said, I heard. What a play. And then he probably got quiet once the.
Yeah, Once the top. And this is. This is chaotic.
Yeah. Wait.
First down, Cowboys ball game over. How is he not down? They did all that to get that. A fumble. Oh, he was holding the ball like a loaf of bread. Yeah, I think he was. I think that was a fumble. Let's see. Here comes a replay. This is great podcasting, by the way. That is a fumble. It.
Paul's out. Game over.
Tell Stephen Che to get in here. Okay, I want to hear a recap real quick. Just a two seconds. I want to. Because I bet on the Bucks. I want to yell at them. Ball security is very important in this league, and the Bucks just didn't do that. Memes. That was so. So jets are most electric team.
Most entertaining.
Most entertaining team. Most entertaining team. Yeah.
It's like a Choose your own adventure.
When.
When you watch him, you never know what you're gonna get.
Well, I think you do, kind of.
Yeah. So when they're gonna lose, you're gonna go to Buffalo, maybe play spoiler.
No.
Okay. No, but electric.
Electric, yes. Shootout. Probably not.
Yeah.
Patriots played him.
Too close.
Now we're gonna get fucking.
Yeah. Killed.
How can you be electric if no shootout?
Electric in the sense that you don't know what's gonna happen.
Yeah, you don't know what's gonna happen. I mean, you gotta hold on to the ball, Steven.
Shit.
I don't have a timeout right now. Did NBC not fucking update the score, Stephen. What? You. You couldn't have thought that that was a fumble by Jake Ferguson? What? The play before the. The Cowboys when they. When Vita V hit him, you thought that was a fumble?
No, no, no.
Oh, all right.
You got to talk in the mic.
Are we recording?
Yeah, we're in the middle of the show.
Oh, okay. I mean this. They're on victory formation. What the. Oh, this was brutal. Did you see via the hit stick on third down?
Yeah. Did you think that was a fumble?
No, but it's a sick play.
Yeah.
Where would you say tonight went wrong? Cheap.
I mean, million turnovers. The Jalen McMillan that was a touchdown and. Or he's down at the one.
The interception.
Yeah.
Yeah. No, he intercepted him.
I thought that at least deserved a review. I guess they did review it, but.
They definitely reviewed it.
A second review.
Yeah.
I mean, where it went wrong, that.
Was your biggest thing that you take away.
And I tweeted this out when it happened. Bucks drive it down into the first half. 54 seconds left. They get a first down. They have one timeout left. They're on the 11 yard line. It's first and 10 from the 11. They called a timeout with 54 seconds left. That's crazy. It was their last time out.
Yeah.
So you have nothing left. They score the next play.
Yeah.
So they give the ball back. 48 seconds left. The Cowboys go down and kick a field goal. So we don't get, you know, just the seven point touchdown. We then go in. You know that score difference goes from seven to four and we lose by two points. So. Yeah, I think things went wrong there.
Yeah.
You need to beat the Panthers next week.
I need you guys to handle business. But now things get really weird because if you guys. If the Falcons win and we win, then you and I are now duking it out for the seventh spot. No.
No, I don't think so. Oh, yeah, I guess it's a Falcons.
If the Falcons win and you win next week, we're still in the seventh spot.
But then would be in the seventh spot. But then it's going to come down to the last week.
Then it would come down to the last week.
Oh, wow. Where. Oh, wow.
You've got the Saints.
Yeah.
Probably a win.
Yeah.
And then we've got the Cowboys. And the Cowboys are playing well and hate you guys. If they beat us, then that's.
Yeah. What? Yeah. Does this ruin Christmas?
Knocks us out.
Yeah.
I mean, this is horrible. I also had a giant future ticket on the Bucks parlayed with two other division winners that I could have cashed out. I. I didn't. So this is bad. But I mean it's not. It's certainly not over. I knew this would be a tough game, but this was bad. Brandon Aubrey is a weapon Every time they got. Every single time we're near midfield, he's kicking it right down the middle.
And he. And he does it like so effortlessly. Yeah.
Like no doubt field goals. As soon as it touches his toe, it's like right down the middle.
All they have to do is get to the 75. Yeah. All they have to do is get to the 40 yard line. It's three points.
This is really deflating, though, because when the Bucks stop them right there on third down, it's like we're about to win the game.
Yeah. And maybe Mike Evans will get 10 more yards if he got 11.
Luke Blutman was one yard away from a 10 leg parlay.
Whatever. It's the whole. The whole night sucked.
It was bad.
All right. It's great. Well, you should feel bad. You ruined.
No, this is horrible.
It's neat little shovel pass by Baker, though, at the end. Right.
So that play, I was thinking it in real life. The Bucks tweeted out from their official account 25 years ago this week. It was Bucks fan. Super Bucs fans probably don't remember this. There's a play on Monday Night Football. Sean King to work done, where he's getting dragged around by his jersey, shovels it to Warwick Dunn. He gets like 20 yards on a first down or no work done, shovels that to Sean King. He goes out of bounds, gets clocked 15 yards. They go on to win that game because of that play. It was 25 years ago this week. That was a very similar play. And then I'm just freaking out because he's about to get sacked, gets a great forward, and then all of a sudden I'm seeing a guy and the Cowboys run to the ends of like, what the fuck just happened? Unfortunately, very clear that it was a fumble.
Yeah. Rashad White should probably have gone high and tight there.
Tough situation. But yes, I mean, he was holding it loose and then he did bring it in, but he got stripped. I mean, the Cowboys. The Cowboys, if they're going to play lights out, special teams and just get three every time they cross midfield and they're. They got. Got four takeaways. I think tonight, like that. That's a tough situation for us to win it.
Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Steven.
Thanks, Jay.
Good recap. It's brutal. It's over.
Hey, Che, I'll beat the Falcons for you. Yeah, if you do that, you got it.
That would actually be better than us winning tonight, so.
Oh, that'd be better than you tonight.
I always want to win. I'd rather win that's just me.
Yeah. No, that's stupid. Okay, next up, Panthers. Hank, that's. That sucked. We're stupid. Panthers 36, Cardinals 30. I don't really have anything for this game other than. Well, the Cardinals are officially eliminated. The Panthers, it's crazy to say because the Cardinals were six and four going into the bye week and they're one and four after that. They. Look, they were top of the NFC West. They played the Panthers today. And this might just be way too knee jerk, but I think I'm buying more Panthers stock than Cardinal stock going forward.
So do you think Jonathan Gannon's safe?
I don't know. I.
He might not be.
Is Kyler Murray the franchise quarterback?
So they had. I think they had seven penalties in the first quarter. The Cardinals have stunk. Reese.
I mean, James Connor getting hurt. Did. Hurt. Did. Did fuck things up because he was going off and he had 111 yards in the first half. But I don't. Kyler Murray, like, I know he has incredible plays, but I don't know if I feel so confident about him just going forward. I don't know.
So he's now 8 and 14 in December. So it's. And that was like a Cliff Kingsbury statute. It still might be. I don't know. But yeah, Murray has not looked good at all the last couple weeks. And yeah. Bryce Young. You know what? I'm amazed by his touch passes now.
Yeah.
Because he. He had absolutely no feel for the football.
Oh, nice.
Until like a month ago.
We're pulling up the trade right now. I still rather have all those picks on that side.
I just.
And I think that Caleb Williams is better than Bryce Young.
It was a topic of conversation today, so maybe.
Who was having the conversation?
Barcelona. Sports Twitter.
Oh, okay.
Would you rather have Bryce Young or DJ Moore?
Darnell. Right.
Caleb Williams.
Tyrek Stevenson did kind of. That is a sliding doors moment. Yeah. I'd still rather have.
You rather take Caleb.
Yeah. Because we're probably going to get a future hall of Famer with the second round pick this year.
There you go.
Yeah. Did you want to. Do you want to have this be a topic conversation right now?
I don't know.
You.
You like to have topics of conversations. I.
We can. But just you. You passively pulling it up. Like. Say something with your chest, buddy.
It's not my show.
Say something with your chest. Don't just put stuff up on the. On the.
On the computer about it or not.
No, say with your chest. Let's go.
I'm just saying Say it then. I thought. I wanted you to say it.
No, no.
You don't care about what I have to say about it.
You care.
You have to say.
You say, I would still rather have the Bears side of this trade.
There you go.
What would you rather have? Because you pulled it up, probably for people who don't understand or listen to the podcast. There's a computer monitor right in front of me and pft. And Max will sometimes scroll like Sydney Sweeney tits. Just out of nowhere. He. As we started the Panthers recap, he just went and scrolled and pulled up the Panthers Bears trade, but then didn't say anything. As passive aggressive as it gets. What do you think about this, Max?
I think that I would probably still rather be on the Bear side, but it's. It's a discussion. That was the biggest haul.
It's a discussion. Yeah, because you're making it the discussion right now.
I didn't make this discussion. Barstool Sports Main account tweeted what a great trade for the Panthers with the trade. And it got, yeah, 3, 000 likes on Twitter.
Well, oh no. LOL Bears gets instant memes back me up here. Discussion numbers. Any dunk on the Bears.
The Tyreek Stevenson thing is wild.
Yeah, that part is. That part's hurts. That. That is. That is a sliding door moment. I. I still am going to take Caleb Williams over Bryce Young going forward. I still. I. I am impressed with Bryce Young and what he's done. And I do think the Panthers have a quarterback going forward, I think. Which is crazy.
I'm kind of impressed with Canales.
Yeah. Big time. I mean, Bryce Young looks good. He was dropping dimes.
I'm impressed with David Tepper, but memes back me up.
If you post anything, that's lol. Bears. It's instant. It's like instant just spawns. Yeah.
All right, Good. Good topic of conversation. Good producing, Max.
Well, next time when you produce, actually.
Say it and say, I can't interrupt your conversation.
Yes, you can.
Can't do that.
Is this the. The Panthers have. Wait, so it's. Since Bryce came back, they're almost 500. Since Bryce came back, they are.
They're three and four since the bye week. And three of their four losses were by one possession to division leaders. Although I guess the Bucks aren't division leaders anymore. But yeah, they're playing good ball and they're. They're building something and it feels like their future, which was nothing, you know, like a month and a half ago, is actually something now. I think Bryce Young is the starter next year. Dave Canales has proven that he's a good coach because he took a horrific situation and has made them a competitive football team. And yeah, I think the Panthers, like, they're also playing in a division that no one's. No one's incredible right now.
I think they're going to win one of these next two, too. I think they're going to be either.
Yeah, I think so. I think they're going to be spoilers. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I'm impressed with the Panthers.
Yeah.
I think Bryce Young is good.
They're probably. They're the ones I'd still.
I'd still take Caleb Williams.
Would you rather play the Panthers or the Cowboys?
I can say both things.
What would you rather play, the Panthers or the Cowboys?
The Cowboys or no, the Panthers, because.
The Cowboys beat the Panthers.
Just beat the. Out of the Panthers. But that was also the Panthers being favorites, which wasn't fair to the Panthers.
That's not the Panthers.
They shouldn't have done that. That was actually very mean to the Panthers.
But, yeah, I. I think they're. They're prime for spoiler season right now.
Yeah. And then the Cardinals are dead, and I don't really know what their future is.
I don't know. See, I don't know if I'm saying.
Sticks around future stock.
Yeah.
Right now I would buy the Panthers stock over the Cardinal stock. That's crazy to say. Maybe, maybe. Maybe it's too in the moment. Would you buy it? You buy the Panthers.
Panthers over the Cardinals.
Yeah. Going forward. Which is nuts because if you said that to me, if you said that to someone six weeks ago, you'd be like, what are you talking about? Are you. Are you crazy?
I don't know. It's close. It's close for me.
I just don't. I kind of. I mean, it's the two short kings and I've. We've seen a lot of Kyler Murray, but Kyler's thicker. There's some great flashes. I don't know.
Maybe it's. I take Kyler September, October, November, Bryce in December.
And I know that this Cardinals roster isn't stacked and it's not all on Kyler, but if you're paying him that much money in your six and four, he feels like. And especially the fact that he's been in the league for. I think. What is this, his fifth year? Sixth year? Like, this felt like a stretch that Kyler could have have ascended a little bit and carried the pant. The Cardinals to a playoff spot and they just fallen on their face.
Is. Is Marvin Harrison Jr. Awesome?
I don't know.
I don't know if he is or not.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
He hasn't really. You'd like to see a little bit more out of Marvin Harrison.
You'd probably like to see a little bit more out of Marvin Harrison Jr.
But yeah, if. If Connor doesn't get hurt. I mean, this game went to overtime.
Yeah.
So it's not like the. The Panthers are leaps and bounds ahead of the Cardinals.
No, agreed.
So it was a close game. You were down your starting running back, one of your best players.
But the Panthers also did come out to a pretty big lead. But.
Yeah, it just seems like things have not. They haven't gone well recently for the Cardinals.
Yeah. Where they were six and four going to the bi week and I was like, they're impressing me. Turns out they had just beaten the Bears and the jets and I think the Patriots.
How much time.
That should have been the sign.
How much time do you think is going to be spent on Arizona sports talk radio talking about Gannon and whether or not he should stick around?
I think it's gonna be about Kyler.
You think so?
Yeah. I mean, Gannon's only on year two.
Yeah.
So I. I think he's probably gonna have. And. And I mean, they've. They are better than they were year one. What did they finish last year?
What was.
They were very. I mean, they were. They were picking, what, fourth? So they were pretty bad last year. So they're definitely. They've gone in the right direction if you wanted to go. Wins and losses overall.
Overall in the season. But recently it feels like it's been a lot worse.
Yeah, I don't. I think he probably is. Okay. I'm just saying more as Kyler is like, you're. This is the guy for the future. Maybe. I don't know. I have no idea. I can't. I feel like we're six years into Kyler and I still don't know. Yeah, there's sometimes where I'm like, oh, my God, there's no one like him. And there's sometimes like, what's that. That interception he threw in the. They got the. With like three and a half minutes left. They got the ball back, but that was so bad.
I also think he throws some of the saddest inter. Yeah, he is very down on himself right after he throws him.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Last early game, Falcons 34, Giants 7. Michael Penix, instant offense first time Atlanta put up 30 points since October.
Huge offensive explosion.
Yeah.
Going by points.
Yeah. Two pick sixes is how that happened. This is. It's more about. I mean, Michael Pennix is actually not bad. He. I feel like the Falcons offense worked better. They were better. It felt like they were better on third down. It felt like they were pushing the ball further. He. He was more mobile. I know he threw a pick, but it was not his fault. Kyle Pitts like basically bobbling the ball into everyone else and it felt like Bijan had more lanes because Michael Penix. The threat of Michael Penix was, was a lot more than Kirk has been in the last few weeks. Yeah.
They couldn't just count on him to box himself in the pocket.
Right.
So did you see the clip of. Of Mr. Mara?
I did.
Reacting to the very mean graphic that they showed about the Giants.
Yes.
I didn't realize because the Giants are a historic franchise. They've been around for forever and this season, even amongst recent bad Giant seasons, has stood out as being. It can't, it can't get any worse than this.
Correct. This is the first time they ever had 10 losses in a row.
First time ever. 10 losses in a row. Everything looks just bad about the future of the franchise. And then you're looking forward to Week 18 where Philly comes in and Saquon potentially sets the NFL rushing record in your home stadium as like the ultimate nightmare. But the good news for the Giants is you are now drafting first overall.
Yes.
And Shador Sanders is on the clock potentially.
He's ready to go.
Or Cam Ward or.
Yeah.
Somebody else who's really good. But yeah, that, that clip where Mr. Mara saw him, I think he saw himself on whatever screen he was looking at up in the suite and he got pissed off at. At Fox broadcasters. My prediction is that the. The league's network partners are going to be told under no circumstances show Mr. Mara during a broadcast anymore. Yes, they'll get a letter from that.
There was also a report this week that Brian Dable might be fired, but Joe Shane might keep his job, which makes no sense to me.
That's the opposite. What they should do.
Yeah, I agree they're on the same timeline, but that makes no sense. I don't know who leaked that. Joe Shane. How do you say his last name shown. Show Shane.
Anybody watch Hard Knocks?
No. I mean, I've seen that clip a million times. He is so. The Giants have been outscored 140 to 59 since he famously said they're not far off, which was five weeks ago. They're. They're the worst team in the NFL. Would we all agree? I don't think that's up for debate anymore.
I would agree with that.
They're the worst team in the NFL. And it's like it's pretty clear that they're the worst team because I actually think they probably would have won it. They actually probably did it correctly by getting rid of Daniel Jones because they might have won a couple of these games with Daniel Jones and now they are going to get the 1 pick and they're going to get to pick their new quarterback.
So the. The graphic, they showed the worst outright record of the NFL. It's been since 1966. That Giants had that winless at home since 1974. Winless verse division never. That still remains to be seen though. And then the last time they had the number one overall draft pick was 1965.
Wow.
It's been a long time. I think that it was the right move to get Daniel Jones out of there. He definitely would have won one of these. But I. It's. It's also hard to watch the Giants now if you're a Giants fan. Oh yeah, it's very hard.
They're a brutal.
Like you definitely want to lose at this point. You want the number one overall pick.
Yeah.
That's worth lot, but at what cost? You have to watch alternating Tommy Cutlets.
And it's only two more weeks. Yeah, it's two more weeks. Just. I'm in a similar boat where it's two more weeks. Just get it. Get it over with. Two more weeks.
One of those could be a meetingless Eagles game too, which would be so funny if they won.
If they won that one.
Oh, wow.
That would actually be the me. That would be the meanest thing.
Wow.
If the Eagles beat the Cowboys next week, they lock in the two seed.
But play the Giants. And I think they're their strength of schedule. Oh yeah, their strength schedules. So they would. They would. They would screw themselves if they. If they won a game. They have to lose out. Have to lose out. So they could go. If they win a game, they could potentially go all the way down to six.
So what could happen is they win a meaningless game against the Eagles and then Hank gets the number one overall pick.
That's interesting. Travis Hunter.
And also that strength of schedule would be. The Eagles are going to raise that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they gotta. They gotta lose out. So this is actually a good thing that they suck so bad. An incredible day for the Falcons, they went, they're back controlling their own destiny. Michael Penix looked decent in his first start. You got him a first start against the Giants. So it's not like he has to go on the road for his first NFL start. Now he gets to, you know, you get to prove it's Sunday night football. Pretty big stage for him. But Falcons defense playing a little bit better. They also, I don't know how the Falcons always do this, but I become obsessed with them just because of where their players are drafted. They were the first team in 40 plus years to have a top eight pick at QB, wide receiver, tight end and running back back.
It's wild.
And their tight end is, I mean Kyle Pitts is just not good.
Kyle Pitts dropping that, yeah, that was, that was a bad, bad drop for him.
But he might get unlocked by Michael Pennock.
Is Drake London okay?
I don't know.
I think he had a hamstring at the end of the game, so he might not be. Also I'd like, like to say that Malik Neighbors putting up these type of numbers, considering who he's had thrown on.
The wall this year, it's impressive.
We should not underestimate how good Malik Neighbors is.
Agreed. He's, he's very, very good.
Even though he's the king of like checking himself out for a couple plays. Might be hurt coming back in.
But now he gets Shador Sanders. Yeah, I mean Kyle Pitts, that, that interception Michael Penix technically threw. Kyle Pitts threw the interception. He threw it to him. Yeah, you're right though. Malik Neighbors and Tyrone Tracy's really good. That touchdown. He had the body control to get those feet inbounds was insane. So yeah, they got a couple pieces. Dexter Lawrence will be back. Maybe you get. Yeah, you just need a quarterback. Yeah, sure. Sanders right there. All right. Pfd. You want to do a couple more ads before we get to the afternoon games?
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Okay. Dolphins, 29, Niners 17. You guys ready for the craziest stat ever?
Hit me.
So The San Francisco 49ers have been eliminated from the playoffs. And that means that the streak continues 22 straight years. The San Francisco 49ers either do not make the playoffs or get to the NFC Championship game. Game.
That's wild.
That's it. Those are the only two outcomes.
Pretty impressive.
That's pretty insane.
And so the Dolphins get to the playoffs.
They're going to the NFC Championship Game. If they. If. If they're not going to the NFC Championship Game, they're just not going to the playoffs.
And so the Dolphins are technically still alive.
Yeah.
Right.
That is.
So what do they. What do the Dolphins have?
You like that meme? Memes liked it. He's thinking about it hard. He's really thinking it through.
That's a good one. Almost the same with the Jets.
Yeah, that's why.
Almost. You could say that for the jets the last 16 years.
Yeah.
That they either go to the AFC Championship game or don't go to the playoffs. That's actually nice.
Yeah. AFC Championship Game or have a losing season, too.
Okay, there you go.
Yeah, that's. That's even crazier now.
The difference being that the Niners have been to, like, five NFC Championship games. Yeah.
They're better than us.
Yeah. So better than. Yeah, I mean, they're. I'm with you. They're better.
So for the Dolphins to get in, they need to beat the Browns, they need to beat the jets, and then they need to have some help from the Chargers, the Broncos, and the Colts.
That was way too much.
You just said they gotta win.
That was. You just said, like, they need, like, five people to help them.
They got to win. And they need. They need the Chargers and Broncos to lose a lot. And the Colts to lose. Here's maybe one loss by the Jaguars. I don't know why they need the Jaguars.
Oh, no, no.
They need the Colts to lose to the Jaguars. Either the Giants.
That's too much shit. That's. That's. That's one of those. When we get. Do the playoff iterations, if you need three teams to help you. I'm out. I don't. Like, let me know when. It's. When you get it down to one team to help you. Yeah.
But Tyree kills back.
Yeah.
They found him.
Why? Mike McDaniel. Doesn't need to wear those glasses, Especially when they're not good.
Yeah, it's. It's a weird look when he's cold.
Yeah. And it just. I. I don't know. I feel like those are. Those are. We're scoring 50 points on. The opponents were 10 and four glasses. Not. We're fighting for our lives, and we need. Whatever you just said, all the things that you said that need to happen. Glasses.
He's just. He's too far into we gotta believe mode.
Yeah.
Sometimes it's okay to stop believing.
Yeah. Sometimes okay to give up. Journey said that it's actually really fun to give up. It's fun to give up and just be like, just give up. It's never gonna get better.
Why don't you just play well so that you have the ability to look back at what you just accomplished with pride.
Yeah.
Be like, we won this game, not because it means anything.
Here's the. Here's the difference. Like, the. Look at Hank. He's happy. Look at memes. Relatively happy. I'm relatively fine. Max has a. Has the best chance on this, on this entire podcast to win a Super bowl, and today pissed him off.
He's miserable.
When you come into Sundays with no expectations and no hopes and no dreams and no future, you can't really get.
Hurt, especially if you're looking at the draft.
Yeah. I can't get hurt.
I'm gonna get so hurt.
You're gonna get so hurt. Join us.
No.
That was a. That was a cute. No.
No, I mean, there's. There is something to that. Not having any expectations whatsoever. Can't get hurt.
Yeah.
Can't get hurt.
So the Dolphins should just not try to do this. You're gonna hurt people.
Yeah.
Give up. Yeah.
What's gonna happen is you're gonna win maybe next week.
Week, and then they play next week.
So I just had it up here a second ago.
How many teams they need.
Well, they gotta win out. Let's start.
They have to win out.
They gotta win out. They could. They can beat the Browns next week.
Yeah, they can be.
So what's gonna probably happen next week is you're. You're gonna beat the Browns, and then you're gonna get mad because the other three or four teams that didn't have to help you out all helped you out.
Yeah.
You're gonna be like, God damn it, I can't believe that the Chargers beat the Patriots.
Right.
You're gonna be pissed.
Oh, so they will win it. Yeah, most likely.
But next week, if they Meme stop. If they beat the Browns, gets cold in New York. And then the Chargers. If the Chargers beat the Patriots next week, then they're done.
Yes.
So you're going to. You're going to put all this work in. You're going to look through all the scenarios. If you're a Dolphins fan, you're going to take care of your business, and then you're going to get super pissed off.
Patriots charters.
A Saturday at least.
Oh.
So. Okay. There you go.
They'll figure it out. All right. Now I guess we just turn because the. The NERs have been eliminated. Dude, season from hell. How much are we paying Brock Purdy?
You got to pay him.
I mean, how much are we paying him? 50. Paid him 50.
By the way, shout out to Brock Purdy. They did the whole, like, look at what these QBs gave to their offensive lineman last week. And he gave out. What, did he pass out? It was something awesome.
They were trucks.
They're all trucks.
And it was trucks.
Yeah, it was a thousand percent in that.
This is what I've noticed is. Is like with Mahomes's one, too. They took, like, glamor shots of the pictures. I think. They're all ads.
No, not Joe Burrows. Katanas are not the katanas.
Not ads.
Those were sick.
Great gift.
Said the lineman wanted guns.
Yeah. And he was like, I'm not gonna get you guns.
You brought swords to a gunfight.
Does Cooper Rush have to get the gift?
He should.
Yeah. Or just dak still.
I mean, Dax hurt.
Yeah, yeah. No. Yeah, he got them Toyota Tundras or something. And they were like, everyone's like, oh, my God, he can't. How can he afford this? It's like. Well, one, he. He still gets paid a. A decent salary, and he also has a lot of endorsements. And two, it's an ad. It's an ad. Yeah.
These are all ads now. I don't like that we've. We've turned this into the ad season.
Not the Katanas and their worst trucks and Chevy Silverados. That's.
Yeah, right Here, I got you a death box.
Yeah.
You probably killed his offensive lineman.
Oh, we should get. We should get our offensive line. Chevy Silverados. Yeah, Chevy. Let's do that ad next year.
They have a wheelchair ramp.
Yeah, we'll get memes. Max, Shane, Pug. What? The wheelchair ramp.
The whole wheelchair thing. I come back, I was so pissed off at pfc. He's like, I got you this really expensive wheelchair.
Can you just like. Yeah. Can you just, like, roll around in it? Please.
Like, is it not.
Is it not sweet, the chat, really.
I'm. I'm literally never. I'm walking. I'm walking.
You might have to have surgery.
You keep saying that like you want me to have surgery.
I don't want you to have surgery, but at least if you do told.
Me I'm not gonna need surgery.
Wait, so you were. You just came back and he had just put a wheelchair out in the middle and didn't say anything?
No.
Kind of like you did the Panthers bears thing in the middle of our conversation.
That's not true.
The wheelchair arrived. I ordered it, Max. I ordered.
That's really nice of you.
Thank you. The second I found out that my boy Max had a broken foot, that was huge. Without knowing the. The diagnosis. So let's not act like I did this. After knowing that you'd be fine, Max, I thought. I thought the worst. I thought maybe you'd never walk again. I ordered a motorized wheelchair with a joystick so you wouldn't have to lift the.
Thank you. It's unbelievably.
Max, if you don't need it, guess what? We can. We can use it for other stuff around the office.
Oh, no, that's just a toy for the office.
You just didn't like that he. You were. You had lost, and he was like, here's a wheelchair. Go be my monkey.
Correct.
Got it. That's fair.
Yeah. Yeah, that's. Were you in the cave? I said that?
No, I was upstairs.
No, I said those exact words.
US Fighter jet accidentally shot.
I'll get a final beer monkey. And I just got in.
And then you did.
Yeah. Of course.
You gotta stand up for yourself because you're broken foot.
No, I can stand now. I'm basically. I'm basically walking.
Basically walking.
I'm not even bringing crutches. Home for. Home for Christmas.
Wow.
Is that a good idea?
Great idea.
What about the wheelchair?
No wheelchair either.
Why don't you bring a wheelchair at the wedding?
I'm going to the wedding.
What about when you go to the Eagles game?
Going to the Eagles game.
Are you gonna bring a wheelchair?
No, I'm gonna be walking.
It's gonna be sore.
You're gonna try to get Big Dom to carry you. Yeah, you are. You're gonna ask Big Dom to carry, and he will because he's that type of guy.
I'm gonna be walking. I'm. I'm good. It, like, barely hurts now.
Oh, okay. All right. Vikings, 27, Seahawks 24. Oh, I had Jake Moody. Sucks. They. I think they used a third pick on him or third round pick on him.
Did they?
Yeah, he sucks. He just misses kicks and Jason Sanders is good. Vikings 27, Seahawks 24. Sam Darnold, baby, that was a. He got hammered on that play before he threw the game winning touchdown to Justin Jefferson. It was his. I think he got his leg and he also got face mask. They did call the face mask. He just stepped up there and did next play. Dart to Justin Jefferson. Sam Darnold, he's a. He's just good at football.
Jefferson got penalized for grittying while making eye contact. Yeah, I thought the gritty was okay. I thought that had been established like case law in the NFL.
You can't do the eye contact, but.
You can't look at another man in the eye while you're gritting through the flag.
Can't do eye contact.
I didn't like that one thing. I also, I actually can't figure out if I like this or didn't. Maybe you can help me figure it out. Jason Myers, kicker for the Seahawks, trying a 60 yard field goal, I believe 1 minute 57 seconds left in the fourth quarter. He missed the 60 yarder. Right afterwards. The camera caught one of his old linemen jogging past him. Sack tapped him. Oh, hit him in the nuts.
I think I like that.
After he missed the kick. Can you try to pull that, that video up?
I think I like that. And here's why.
Just look at sack tap Jason Myers.
I, I think that, I think you, you basically give him something else to think about in that moment. You know what I'm saying?
Boom.
Yeah.
His homeboy got him.
Like, that's good because like, you see the, you're thinking about the kick. You're like, man, that sucks. I can't believe I missed that. He's like, here, think about me sack tapping you.
I think that was a plot line in major league too. I feel like their catcher.
Yeah.
Got kicked in the ball.
Distract him by.
By a donkey.
Yeah.
Then like his grandmother died. You think about his balls hurting so much.
Yeah, that's. That's exactly what just happened.
Good.
The Vikings control their own destiny. For the one seed has not been talked about enough. They're just really good at football. Sam Darnold is just really good at football. Their defense is really good at football. Kevin O'Connell should be coach of the year. He is now 25 and nine in one possession games, which is second best in NFL history for a head coach. He should be coach of the year for what he's Done with his team and for what he's done with Sam Darnold. And they are a serious threat in the playoffs, especially if they get that one seed. I feel like there's going to be a lot of casual NFL fans who, if the Vikings win out, like, wait, what the hell? I thought the Lions had the one seed.
Yeah, but they play the Lions.
Yeah. Right. And, I mean, they have a big game against the packers, who they've already beaten. But that. That will be a tough game. But, yeah, the Vikings are just. And Justin Jefferson is. It's Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase, depending on. You know, they're both just the best receiver. Is that okay to say? Can I just say that. Can we just. Can we make that an official declaration? Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are the best receiver in the NFL, and Malik.
Neighbors is the best rookie receiver. Brian Thomas and Brian Thomas. Pretty good, too.
Yeah.
Graphic.
Yeah.
Lsu.
Yeah, LSU makes good receivers.
So what's going on with the Seahawks offense? Time to have a conversation about Ryan Grubb.
I just. I don't. I don't know if it's the Seahawks offense. Well, they couldn't run the ball today. They couldn't run the ball.
They don't try to run the ball.
They tried, but.
No, not really. Not really. They. They didn't really try.
Well, they also got down. They got down in the game pretty quickly.
I mean, they were down 17 to 14 at halftime.
Yeah. And, well, that. They scored to make it 1740. Like, they. Yeah, but they were down 177 even.
In the second half. They never try to run the football. That's the thing about the Seahawks. Every week they say, you know what? We're going to recommit to the run.
Try to run it.
We've learned our lesson. We're going to establish the run. We're going to go out there, put our heads down, and we're going to play off the run game, and then we can go and play action. And they never do it. They never even try to establish the run. Run. Yeah, they don't try. And I feel like we've had that same conversation about the Seahawks for years.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Kenneth Walker's been banged up a bunch, but, yeah, it's. I. I don't. I also just don't know what to think of Geno Smith because he is at times great, and then he just tries to throw picks half the time as well.
I also think that if you at least tried to run the football, then you could do play Action. And then Geno Smith wouldn't be doing these things where he's like sprinting away from five guys, throwing off his back foot. Well, closing his eyes and saying a prayer, getting picked off.
Yeah, that happens a lot for the Seahawks. Happens a lot, a lot.
Yeah.
Memes. Did you like the three way jets quarterback thing that was going on? Yeah.
Fox is just highlighting that the jets are a QB factory and we know how to develop quarterbacks so they have success elsewhere.
Yeah. So Mark Sanchez is calling a game with Geno Smith and Sam Darnold all first round jets quarterbacks. Or was Gino first rounder? Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I don't know what to. I, I think Gino's good.
I think he's fine, but I, then.
I think he's bad.
Gino would be a good bridge quarterback for the Jets.
He would be to maybe get, maybe.
Jump off that bridge.
No, Kit, get Gino as a bridge quarterback and then sign Sam Darnold as your long term option.
Yeah.
I'll take Sam back. Just there's a lot of, there was a lot of Sam discourse.
I don't know if you want. I, I just every time a guy like sucks and then we should just remember that coaching matters so, so goddamn much. Kevin OConnell is just a really good coach. Coach of the year. Yeah.
Now Sam Darnold suck on the Jets.
Yeah, he'd suck at, he'd suck at a lot of other places. Kevin OConnell is a great coach and they have great receivers.
It is the perfect landing spot for a quarterback right now.
Yeah. Okay. Hey, Hank, welcome back. Bill's 24, Patriots 21.
Good game.
Did Gerard Mayo save his job with that first quarter?
Maybe. Hopefully not.
Oh well. Your quarterback disagrees with you.
Yeah, I like this, I like this, I like this comment from Drake.
So Drake May said that he's had enough of the bs, that there's a mutiny going on, that they don't want Mayo back. They want Mayo. But except for Hank. Hank doesn't want Mayo.
What did he say? Is that exactly what he said?
I, I think that was exactly what.
Backing up his coach was a sign of a good leader.
It's maturity.
I'll look it up. I'll look it up.
I like the Gerard Mayo did the fake punt.
Fake punt was good. Drake May threw a couple dimes.
Patriots were Patriots had a lead.
Okay, here's what he said had on the net. This is him speaking on the negative dialog surrounding the coaching staff. Stuff like that. I think it's Some bs, to be quite honest. Coach Mayo, like I said, we've got his back. I think we're building something good. I'm proud to be a Patriot.
Yeah.
So he doesn't say I want Maya, but he's. He had his back, which is respectable.
Well, he was referring to the negative dialog surrounding coaching staff as. As being some.
Yeah, yeah. Which again, he's having his coaches back. That's again sign of a leader. Commendable. He played pretty good. He had the touchdown pass in the first quarter was an absolute dot. But they lost, obviously. When there's a lot of bad teams and. And you know, the draft, that was a good loss. You win. You win a game, you can. You can drop like six spots. And that was a good loss. So that was a good loss.
How about.
How about Drake May being the best scrambling quarterback ever?
Yeah, that's great.
Per that crap. It was a great graph for you.
Huge graph. And the Bills had their, like, let down spot after a huge win against the Lions and still won because that was. They didn't look good. I mean, their defense got bullied in the first quarter. They did kind of bow up in the second half getting. Forcing three turnovers. Then the. The backwards pass was kind of all she wrote for that game. Josh didn't play great. He also banged up. He banged his funny bone. James Cook, though. James Cook is a weapon. He's awesome. And I also liked. I like Jordan Phillips. Did you guys see that on the Bills? He wore a full coat under his uniform to warm up.
He learned. He learned from the Tennessee Volunteers.
I mean, it. I still don't understand why those. Why guys do that. It makes no sense to me.
Yeah, it's actually bad for you to warm up without a shirt on. You do look cool as hell, though.
Yeah. But it doesn't do anything for, like, the tough intimidation. It really feels like you're just trying to prove it to yourself.
Yeah, it looks. Yeah, you kind of are.
Yeah.
Because it looks sweet.
But the minute you do that, I'm like, you're gonna lose because you're just trying to do it to yourself.
And that when you guys went tarps off at Buffalo, it was cold.
Yeah. Because you were like, hey, let's take a picture you fat in the. In the snow. And we're like, okay.
It's a sick picture.
The thing is, if you. If you have to prove it to.
Yourself, and we put our shirts back on two seconds later and then went. Sat in a suite.
If you're trying. If you're trying to prove to yourself that you're not cold by taking your shirt off. Off. You're actually admitting that it does affect.
Yeah. You're. It's in your head.
The cold's already won.
Yeah. It's also like the, they make clothes for a reason.
That's true. It keeps you warm.
It's pretty awesome.
Yeah.
You can wear like warm clothes and stay warm. Yeah. I, I. You have anything else this game?
No.
Good loss.
Good loss for Hank.
Good loss.
Good win for Buffalo.
Yeah.
It was weird seeing them wearing the Patriots you uniforms.
Yeah.
Yeah. That was a little trash.
Like there were several times when actually I, I think Drake May launched a bomb downfield. It got picked off, but then I thought that it was a Patriot receiver that caught it.
Yeah.
Even though the other uniform it was, it was a mind. I didn't like it.
What do you have in your. What? What is that?
Max is playing with dolls.
You're playing with dolls.
I'm at the add portion.
Yeah.
All right.
Chucky thing. I've been scaring memes with it.
We have one last game meme.
Don't look at the light.
We have Raiders 19, Jaguars 14. And we have a special announcement. Okay. Breaking moves, breaking news. You guys remember the Pop Tarts bowl last year?
Oh, yeah.
Well, we got a big surprise, Hank. Let's see it.
What do we got, Hank?
We got the Pop Tarts bowl trophy.
It's beautiful.
Right here in studio. Pft. Guess what? This trophy has a built in working toaster. Can we get some Pop Tarts going?
Yeah, we sure can get some Pop Tarts. The frosted cinnamon roll pop Tarts. I've never had this kind actually. And it smells delicious.
So this is the actual trophy they're going to give at the game. They partnered with GE Appliances to make the first ever championship trophy in all of sports. That includes a built in working toaster. Pop Tarts delivering it on its promise of delivering crazy good surprises and a bowl experience like never before. I'm so excited for the Pop Tarts bowl this year. You got to check it out. It's going to be an incredible game. December 28th at 3:30pm Eastern on ABC. Two teams, three edible mascots and a pack Camping World Stadium in Orlando. So mark your calendars. There's tons of surprises. And we have the trophy right here.
This thing's a masterpiece.
This is the coolest trophy I've ever seen.
I love that. It is, actually. It serves a purpose besides just being a trophy.
Yeah.
I would have this on my kitchen.
Counter winning this trophy, I'll say it. Better than winning the national championship. Yeah.
Would you rather drink out of a trophy or eat out of it?
Eat out of a trophy? Eat out of a trophy.
I mean, how many people have eaten out of the trophy?
Yeah.
I would say probably none.
Yeah.
So I'd like to be the first.
I would, too. Well, we're about to do it. So catch all the crazy good moments and get a sneak peek of each Mascot by following OptartsUS and OptartsBowl on social and visiting PopTarts.comBowl this year, Pop Tarts bringing more flavor, more fun, and a whole lot of excitement. Don't miss it. Again, it is December 28th, 3:30pm Eastern on ABC. Two teams, three edible mascots, and a packed Camping World Stadium in Orlando. So mark your calendar.
Oh.
Oh, it's ready. Let's go. Let's eat.
Hank, you want some?
I love some. Okay.
Oh, man, that's delicious. Pop Tarts. Hank here got a share. Oh, man, that's an incredible trophy.
How good does this look?
It's incredible.
I'm so jealous.
Greatest trophy ever. So, again, check it out. December 28, 3:30pm Eastern on ABC. Two teams, three edible mascots, and a packed Camping World Stadium in Orlando. And the greatest trophy ever created, the Pop Tarts trophy. That is actually a toaster as well.
I can't wait.
Okay. I think that's the best Raiders, Jaguars recap you could ever have. Just getting to see the awesome Pop.
Tarts trophy is incredible. Also, Brian Thomas Jr. Very, very good.
Yeah. And the Raiders screwed themselves in the draft.
I think that might be the worst win of the season.
Yeah, I'd agree. They went from the first pick in the draft to the sixth. That's crazy. And they need a quarterback.
Worst win of the season by far. That might. I don't know. Jacksonville, Tennessee, whoever wins that game. Game. That might be the worst.
That could be very bad. Yeah, that could be very bad because.
They'Re in the same division. Implications.
Yeah. I mean, although Jacksonville doesn't need a quarterback, but. Yeah, that's that. The Raiders need a quarterback.
Yeah.
And they won that game.
This is a must lose.
Yeah. Also, Brock Bowers continues to be incredible because he is 10 yards away from dick. His rookie record. And he also is the first rookie tight end to have over 100 receptions. He's awesome.
This is what happens when you have too good of a coordinator like Scott Turner.
Yeah, he's. Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
We got an update on his dogs. Did we Say the update on the air.
We did not.
Okay, so his dog is a rottweiler. Right. And then his parents dog, is it a dachshund? Yeah, small dog.
So we were right on half of it.
We were right on. On his dad being a small dog guy. Yeah, but he's not a small dog guy. Rottweiler. Yeah, man dog.
Also great offensive coordinator because he has not been dealt the best hands. No, but ain't no Connell. Not. Not so bad.
No, but again, you'd rather. He might be too good.
He might be too good. He might be.
Go back to Desmond Ritter. See what you can do with him.
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How daunted are you, big cat?
Ah. What? Hank, no.
I'll let you guys go. I got some.
No, let's hear it.
What?
Go ahead.
Let's hear it.
Go ahead.
You're gonna be so miserable. What?
You're about to say no, go ahead.
All week long. It's gonna be the greatest weekend in football. The greatest weekend in football. College football. Like, you don't watch college football. How can you not watch college football?
Wait, I said this is gonna be the greatest weekend in football.
Many people are saying that.
Okay, it was terrible.
It was basically. It was essentially like. Reminded me of week one when you're playing random other teams from other conferences and it's just blowouts, no good games, not exciting whatsoever. Just trash.
Yeah, it was a bad first round.
Bad football.
It was a bad first round. I. College football is the only sport that I think that people are more obsessed with arguing online than actually watching the game. Because we had just the whole, you know, Indiana loses. Indiana shouldn't be in, by the way. Kurt Signetti, biggest coward pussy of all time.
That's a bad punt.
You should disavow.
That was I. That was the most on top. You know what? I disavow that punt.
You can't talk shit like he talks shit on game day. Being like, whenever we play a 20 top 25 team, we beat the shit out of them and then punt down 20 points. 20 plus points on midfield. Like, what A.
He has mastered the art of losing to like way, way, way, way, way better teams and then having the final score make it look like Indiana was still kind of in the game.
Yeah, he was literally playing for resume like Indiana was another playoff. Indiana fans at the end of the weekend were like, we actually lost by the least amount. It's like we watched that game. That is, that game was never close. You were never in that game. Also, I, I think you shouldn't like Kurt Signetti. Okay, so here he's gonna, he, he's gonna take more of your players this year.
I, I'll explain why I rooted for Kurt Sketti this year. It's because at this point I have to accept reality. I can fight reality or I can, I can, I can deal with it. Jmu's a stepping stone school. We might as well be the best stepping stone school so we get the best coaches that want to coach for us.
But still, he took your whole team. He's going to take more of your guys this year.
I'd hate, I'd hate that he might.
Like, that'd be a thing.
It was a, it was a punt.
Insane punt.
It was crazy.
If, listen, if you don't talk like Kurt Signetti talks, whatever, you can be like, hey, we're, the game's over. We, we, we're just gonna get our ass kick. We're never gonna get it. It's fine. It would still be a punt, but it'd be like, whatever. He talks so much shit and then he does that. That was crazy to me. But either way, Hank, back to your point. Yes, the game sucked. It is the first year of a 12 team playoff. I think the seating obviously was a, was a flaw in the system that they'll figure out. It should have been Boise State and Arizona State should have been playing this weekend. That's what like that should have happened. You know, a team like Penn State should have had a buy. You know, Texas should have had a buy. They should, they should have done the buys based on the four highest ranked teams or whatever it would have been. I don't know if it would have been. Would have been Notre Dame and Penn State. Either way, they obviously have to figure out the seating stuff. Here's my counterpoint to anyone who's complaining about how the first round went.
Because people, again, again, college football fans, there's a whole group of them that would rather complain online and do the debates and like SEC hypotheticals where the SEC has never lost a hypothetical like all Friday night. It was like Alabama would have been better in this spot. Then you didn't hear them when Tennessee got boat raced by Ohio State. They kind of went away. When you heard that when, when the, when the two win team from the SEC got absolutely smoked by the Big.
Ten, the team that beat Alabama.
Right, right. Yeah, right. Got smoked.
And then Alabama lost to Oklahoma.
Yeah.
A shitty team.
Correct.
And then Ole Miss, you lose to Kentucky.
Right.
Another shitty team. You don't know.
But yeah.
No, they, they are right in that if you're an SEC school, a fan of an SEC school, you can just straight up say like, SEC is the best conference. We would have done better than that.
Yeah, they, they've never, they're undefeated in hypotheticals. So obviously the game. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna pretend that the games were good. They were not good. I also think like you had four teams playing home games that were better than the four teams that were coming into their home stadium. So I wasn't totally shocked. I mean, the closest point spread was seven points. My, my, my pushback on anyone who's like, this doesn't work. Blow it all up again. First of all, that's insane. It's the first year. Second, what would be the alternative that you would rather have? Would you rather have Ohio State and Tennessee playing in the Peach Bowl? That doesn't mean anything. That has 30 guys on each side opting out and transferring. Because that's what we did have. We had guys opting out of the Rose bowl two years ago.
It was bad football, but it was still. They were meaningful.
And it was also mean. It means something because they're going to.
The next round and you get to look at the brackets and who moves on and what those next matchups are going to be like. And then that's where you run into some real complaining. Like Ohio State by losing to Michigan and credit to Ohio State, by the way. Oh, they were awesome because they played really, really well in a situation where like, we didn't know if they were just going to have given up on the season.
Correct.
But they went out there and they just beat the out of Tennessee. But you're also in a situation where Ohio State, by losing that game to Michigan ended up creating a great scenario for themselves and a bad scenario for Tennessee.
Although Tennessee would have had to play Indiana and Indiana lost by less to Ohio State.
That's true.
Yeah.
If you look like.
I'm just saying I scoreboard. I think Tennessee probably would. Indiana probably. But Indiana did play better. I mean, again, they scored late because Kurt Signetti, that is what he does.
Yeah. No, that was really good at that. Number one at Signetti Manufacturing a final score.
Yeah. 10 point loss. Best loss of the weekend. But yeah, it was, it was not a great weekend of college football. But I don't think, I think as soon as they figure out the seating, which would be a lot better. So. Yeah. What would it be, Max?
So it would be if you go off the AP and then you switch Bama and smu, like let's just say they keep Bama in.
Well, no, you'd have to switch Clemson too.
Correct. So it would have been Penn State, Clemson. Then it would have been Ohio State, smu. That would have been an absolute route.
Yep.
But then it would have been Tennessee, Arizona State. That would be a fun game, I think.
Yep.
And then Boise State, Indiana would have been a great.
Yeah.
So I think if, if you go off of that it should fix something. Like the 512 kind of will look like. It look like a route again, but it kind of should be like.
Yeah, that's exactly the point. Some of that the 5th ranked team should beat the 12th ranked team most times, especially in their home place. Like that's, that's just a fact.
And it's also not like college basketball.
Right?
It's not, it's.
Football's never going to be like that.
It's a different sport where if, if you have one program that has by far more talent, it's not like you, you will find yourself lucking into a road victory against that team as a vastly inferior opponent. That's just not going to happen.
And the other, the only other point I had, and this is where you know, we are react, we react to these things in the moment and I get it because I do the same thing all the time. I'm way too reaction, reactionary with all this stuff this weekend suck. But remember the College Football playoff going to 12 teams in my opinion made this season so much more fun. Like we had weekends that didn't have. That would not have meant anything mean something. Oklahoma beating Alabama meant something. Whereas in the 14 playoff Alabama probably would have already been out. So this weekend sucked. But like you have to take what, what the 12 team playoff is is not just this first weekend. It's everything that happened all season long that got us to this point. And it's also everything that's going to happen going forward where we have some really good. I mean Penn State, Georgia is going to be a great matchup in my opinion. Or no, that's not. No, Notre Dame, Georgia, Notre Dame, Georgia is going to be a great matchup. I mean we know Ohio State, Oregon is going to be a great matchup because we saw the game earlier.
Again, the seating part is kind of fucked up because they should have reseeded at least this year where Oregon should have played Arizona State or Boise State because Oregon got screwed having to be the number one seed, only undefeated team in the country and having to play Ohio State. But it's a. It's a flawed first crack at it and I'm sure they'll fix it.
Yeah.
So if you were to go off of like the 12, it would have been. Oregon would play the winner of Boise. Boise State, Indiana.
Right.
That makes more sense. Right. They got screwed. But that's going to be an awesome Rose Bowl.
I mean, the best game was probably Texas Clemson, and that wasn't even that close. Just for a second you thought, oh, Clemson not as dead as I thought they were.
Yeah, they came back in that game. Game. And. But yeah, I also, like, the NFL.
Playoffs sucked sometimes, too.
Yeah. The first round last year, I sometimes stinks. Wasn't great. And again, Penn State's a really good football team. Notre Dame's a really good football team. Tennessee or. Or Ohio State and Texas are really good football teams. I expected them to win. I wish it was closer, but that's just kind of how it goes. Oh, yeah. People are pointing how, like, last year was awesome. So they ruined it. So we still have this coming.
Yeah.
The semifinals are still two. Two rounds or a round away. Like, we still have more chances for great games.
Yeah.
I still think on a toe. On a whole, we. We had two great playoff games last year. I think we'll get more than two great playoff games this year.
Do you think people are gonna. Would be upset of a Penn State, Notre Dame semifinal and then a Texas, Texas, Ohio State? Like, yeah, that's good. Those are good games, right?
Yeah.
Right.
We're going to get there.
You're playing about the appetizers. You haven't even ordered your entree.
I'm not sleeping on Boise or Penn State's winning.
No, I'm just saying, like, we're going to.
That's now games. Can we talk about that game real quick? Because that was. I did bet Penn State and it was based on the fact that that was the least big game of all time and that's why James Franco was going to dominate.
Oh, yeah. That wasn't a big game at all. It was like even, like waking up.
It didn't even feel like Kevin Jennings got. The minute he started throwing those pictures just like, yeah, what is going on? Yeah.
What Was the mood like in the stadium did have big game feel.
Oh, yeah, it looked awesome. Was popping. All of my buddies were there. My brother, his wife were there. I. I heard unbelievable things from within the stadium. But. But that's also like, I'm ha. I'm happy that we got that. The people that were at that game that go to a bunch of games every year got a college football playoff.
Yeah.
And got to be there for it.
Yeah.
But when. When. What is his name? Jennings. I just said Ken.
Kevin Jennings.
Yeah, Ken Jennings. Like, he did the thing where he put it.
He did the.
Me where he put his hands over his ears.
Yeah.
And then they had to call a timeout. And then he immediately threw the pick six to Tony. Tony Rojas. And it was like, there's no way they were ever going to ever again.
Ever.
Penn State didn't even play well. They. They had. They did not play their best game. Game at all.
Yeah.
And they just smoked them.
How about the. The big game environment inside the. The horseshoe pre game. The band on the field.
Yeah.
That. What. What instrument was that lady playing where she just was like, love it.
Senior going out.
That was. That was. I felt something. I was like, this means more.
Yeah.
Also very funny. Where Penn State put SMU's band.
Oh, all the way up top.
It couldn't. Couldn't have been a worse. Like a worse section in the entire stadium.
Yeah. So, Hank, are you going to give the next round of college football a shot?
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to give him a shot. I just. I. There's a lot.
I love how we desired. We lucked into a real Rose bowl matchup.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah. The Rose bowl is going to be awesome. And then you have Notre Dame and Georgia playing right after.
Yeah.
Like. And again, even if these games aren't close, I don't. I don't want to say, like, that's sports. You can't. That's the beauty of sports. You don't know what's going to happen. You can't just say every time there's a blow up, being like, everything's broken. Fix it. We had. Do you remember when they went to the 14 playoff? I remember sitting and watching on. On New Year's Eve.
That sucked.
Alabama verse. Yeah, it was versus Washington. Or was it Michigan State? There was a Michigan State one too. That. Where they like didn't score any points. And it was. It was brutal. And then it slowly got, you know, it got better over years. But like, this is just A new system that they'll slowly figure out. And I get it. There's probably only five teams realistically every year that could win a college football national championship. I still like having more teams involved. And you can have the chance of something special happening in a single elimination tournament. There probably will never be a Cinderella to win it all. But I never expected that.
This, I mean, if you have teams that are loaded at the top with five star players and then you get like SMU going into Penn State. That's always going to happen.
Yeah.
But if you're, if you're smu, at least you have that one week to be like, you know what, what if. Yeah, we could win the entire thing.
And, and if we, and I mean.
And the game does mean something too.
If we keep playing this, I don't know, 25 years, there will be a 12 that beats a 5. Like it will happen because that's just football and that's sports. And it's weird like that.
We used to have a computer pick the winner.
Yeah. Yeah.
There would be a computer and be like, okay, I'm going to spit out a bunch of numbers. Oh, we have co national champions this year.
Yeah. The two teams would play in separate bowl games and have a chance to win a national championship.
Yeah.
Oh, you beat them and then, and.
Then your team could win their bowl game and then the computer doesn't pick you and then you get to claim a national championship that nobody else will respect for the rest of eternity.
Yeah, we're doing better.
Which actually kind of rocks.
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Who's back of the week is Awl. Charlie Woods.
Yeah. Congrats, Charlie.
Love that he hit his first hole in one. I think it's in tournament play. I'm sure he's probably has a bunch otherwise.
I think he said it was his first.
Even better.
Yeah.
Hit a hole in one. Him.
That's what they always say.
Him and Tiger lost in the playoff, so they almost won the whole thing.
Yeah. Bernard Longer. Why?
Because he's old.
Well, apparently the guy's coming back from, like, an Achilles injury, and he's hitting from the seniors tees.
That was crazy. 67 years old.
He gets an additional, like 120 yards on every drive.
Whose side are you on? On.
I mean, he's 67 years old. It's like.
So then don't play golf in a. In a tournament like this. He was sitting. He literally walked like a hundred yards up to hit his tee shot.
Senior tease. It was crazy there in front of that. He's teeing off in front of amateurs.
Where am.
See, me, personally, I'd have too much pride to do that same. I wouldn't hit from those TE's.
Same.
Maybe I go one one ahead. I did from the blues also.
He's won the tournament like, seven times in a row. Enough, dude.
Yeah, well, because he's got a system, right? This guy's a hustler, but yeah, Charlie Wood. Sick hole in one.
You got you thinking about it?
No, I was. I was just.
His.
His press conference afterwards was funny when he was like, yeah, you know, I thought I'd see my dad's best, but like, this is Actually, he actually played really well today.
Yeah.
Great.
Charlie said that?
Yeah, you can tell Tiger. I was like, yeah, it used to be good.
Good.
Like I. I can be good. You know, I have the ability to be a good golfer.
And Charlie almost nailed that puttu on on 18.
I wanted it in so bad. We love Charlie Woods. He's our guy.
You got it stolen away from him.
Yeah.
A moment taken away.
You just can't feel good. If you're Bernard longer and you're hitting from the.
The sun's like 35.
Yeah. The sun's like. Yeah.
Charlie's 16 years old and this guy.
His son was in college like 10 years ago.
He's like a doctor.
Yeah. I didn't like that.
Yeah, it's okay.
Pft.
I was gonna say Charlie woods too, but I'll just say people talking about Ricky Henderson. Yeah. Because he passed away. And it's sad because Ricky Henderson was such a awesome, awesome baseball player to watch it all. His base stealing records are just insane. The stats that you can look up and be like, it would. Oh, it takes somebody like 30 years stealing 70 bases a year to do what he did. Did. And he played till he was old, but he was still, still really, really fast. And he was great to watch. Best leadoff hitter of all time.
Yeah.
But I'm just glad that people are talking about Ricky Henderson.
Also the stories, you know, whether it be the he framed his million dollar signing bonus check.
Yeah.
When he was a rookie. Or the famous John Olrood story where he, he went up to John Olrood and was like, hey, we. We used to have a guy like, who used to wear the helmet it at first base when I was on the Mets and John Oliver was like, yeah, dude, that was me. We were teammates, Ricky.
Yeah.
So he was the best.
It's sad because he was what, 65 years old.
Yeah. And he, he also was like one of the only guys who I feel like was. Everyone was. Really was okay with him doing first person.
Yeah.
Like he just said would say, Ricky thinks this and be like, yeah, that's cool. He was like, you're Ricky Anderson.
He was a flashiest dude ever. But it matched up with watching him play.
Yeah.
So, yeah. You can get away with anything that you want, Ricky. He was born on Christmas.
That's cool.
Yeah. So the flashy from day one.
Yeah. Yeah. A player could steal 60 bases a year for 22 straight years and Ricky Henderson would still have more stolen bases.
Did he invent taking like actually taking the base like when he Had a milestone stolen base where you just take it out of the ground.
I don't know.
This is my base now.
The.
The best. The best tweet some baseball writer said is, like, Ricky Henderson was actually the first guy to pimp and showboat home runs, but he would do it right in the pitcher's face, and the pitcher knew they couldn't bean him the next time he was up because if they beamed him, he'd be on third base in two pitches. Yeah, like, you couldn't put him on base, like, intentionally. So. Yeah. What's that one? Ricky Anderson trying to find a seat on the team bus. Teammate. Tell. Tell one of them to move. You got tenure, Ricky. Tenure. Nah. Ricky's been in the league 15 years. Yeah. There. I don't know. Half of these are true, but they're funny. And he feels like he was just a legendary, legendary guy.
Yeah.
That was good. I had as my who's back as well. I don't know what my who's back would be then. Oh, well. Oh, I have one. Buy Mike Florio's book. Well, actually, you don't have to. It's free on Amazon on Christmas Day and Christmas Eve. Mike Florio, our good friend, we love him. His ebook is free on Amazon Tuesday and Wednesday, so please go download it, because we love them. It's called Father of Mine. It's free on Tuesday and Wednesday. Go do it. Please help him. He's. He's done more for both of us in this show than we can really put into words. So we love him dearly. It's time. You. You, You. You say you love your family, and Mike Florio is family to this show. So the ebook is free on Tuesday and Wednesday. Father of Mine, go check it out on Amazon. He would appreciate it. We would appreciate it.
Yeah.
So he's the best.
He'll always be number one Florio.
Yeah. Number one Florio for sure. Do we have anything else, boys? I mean, we're not gonna do a show Wednesday. We're gonna do Friday, our regular show. We'll do Zoom on Friday and Zoom on Monday, and then we'll be back together the following Friday. Max. We good?
Yeah. I feel okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One hour. Fourth episode of Thursday.
You did you. There was one moment where you were screaming it. I think you were screaming at pft.
It's okay. It happens.
I love it. I love it. Yeah.
This episode.
Yeah, I love it. I think it's the best because you're. It's. Listen, we all have our passion. I got mad at you when you pulled up that fucking meme.
Yeah, I know that's. That was payback.
But that's. But we should. We should be okay with getting mad at each other.
That's what. Yeah, that's what makes the show great.
Right? We keep it in between the white lines. Yeah, except memes. He hates us outside the white line.
That's actually.
He carries everything with him afterwards.
It is funny. Whenever I see. Whenever I see anybody out in public, like, pretty much the only thing that they say is Hank. They think that I, like, genuinely hate Hank.
Yeah. I don't.
They're like, I hate Hank, too.
It is funny when people think that. It's like, yeah, we spend, like, 60 hours a week together.
Yeah.
We genuinely love each other.
If you know Hank, you know, he's. He's not about the drama.
It's also like, I don't. I try to exist. I don't know. Do you think there are friends probably.
When you're in Philly, do you think.
There are friends out there that, like, root for each other's teams to do well? If they're. If they have different teams, that's very Your guys. Teams. No, you don't. Shut the up.
You know, you don't literally bet against us to make the playoffs.
Like, genuinely root for him. Like, there'll be times where I'll root. I'll. I'll like you.
Liar.
Like, I bet on the one in the super bowl, too.
There. There. There'll be times where. Outside of bets. Outside of bets. But there'll be times when I'll root for your guys. Team. But, like, gen genuinely be. Like, I want. I want my friends teams to rock. That's crazy.
Yeah. You want them. You want your friends to be just as miserable as you are.
Right.
I just said my. My goal for the NBA season.
He's still laughing in his face. Right, Right. I want both of you guys to have maximum pain in the playoffs.
That's mean.
It's the truth. I actually would like pft to win one game.
That's mean. Big cat.
I would like pft to win one game. I was you, Max. Actually, no, I'd like Max go to the Super Bowl. That would be fun. It'd be great.
Would you. Okay, so would you actually be upset if the Commanders went to the Super Bowl?
They won the Super Bowl. I'd be like, this is.
Yeah, absolutely.
But if you won one game, I'd be happy for you. Genuinely happy for you. For one game.
Game.
That would be cool.
What if I beat Max, that would be very cool.
But that would just. But he would like that more for my pain than your eyes, correct?
No.
Correct.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah. So that actually would. I don't know, because, like, it would be, like, kind of wasting. Like, I'd rather you win. Like, if you played the Packers, I'd be. I know that's not possible, but that would be incredible. I'd be rooting very hard.
Okay, so what about this scenario? The packers play the Eagles in the first round. That's on the table.
I'm rooting for Max hard.
You won't get hard. That would be the meanest thing the packers could do to you is take the joy out of.
Correct.
Out of enjoying an Eagles loss.
I would be heart. I would be more heartbroken than Max. Yeah, I think I would. Because he would. I wouldn't be able to enjoy your loss. They. The packers would rob my joy.
All the joy.
They would rob my joy of your loss from me. Think about that.
Yeah, I guess, I mean, paint the.
Picture again real quick. Of. Of what is a game 7? Of the. Of the. Of the Eastern Conference finals. What is it? Maybe. Yeah, like, I don't know. There's 10 seconds left.
I don't know. I just want to see Hank, like, upset. Like he always. He's never upset. Ever.
He almost died the other week.
Week.
No, but.
No.
Losing. That's different. Upset. But I'm pretty sure that we weren't even together during that. I'm pretty. Actually, no.
He was pretty upset after losing the Heat.
I was thinking that was Memorial Day, but that was Memorial Day when they.
He was pretty upset when they lost the Heat.
I'm such a chill, happy guy. I'm sorry that upsets you.
The chill is happiest guy. All right. Merry Christmas, everyone, though we'll be back before New Year.
Yep.
Happy, happy Hanukkah. Happy Kwanzaa. Happy every. Oh, that kid rocks. There's nothing like a. Like a 12 year old fat kid in New Jersey. He was just going nuts for the game. This is great, great podcasting. All right, number 17. 11. 3.
33.
89.
21.
80.
80. On the TV.
I think 80 might.
It's meme said it. So. No. Can I change my number? What?
Meme say?
Can I change my number?
Yeah.
81.
I'll take three. Okay.
What is it?
89. Oh, you got it?
Yep. All right, let's go.
Wait, wait.
That better be.
This would be great.
Nope.
68.
Let's go.
Oh, man. Sorry.
That's.
I. I'm sorry. I didn't do that.
That's your job. You have one job job.
I understand, but like, that's a. That's a.
Have you ever got guess it by yourself?
Look at Pft. Look it.
Yeah, but that's. That's your job.
Oh, what a great lot of that's.
It's 68 into.
What's it called?