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Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Today's part of my take week 18 in the NFL, and we finally have a playoff bracket to talk about. We had a lot of games, lot of meaningless games.

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We're gonna talk about all of them. We had coach firings. Hank is gonna get a new coach. We had Some coach not firings. Coach not firings.

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It's the last week of the regular season, Teege. May us be the last to wish you a happy 2024 NFL league year. We start in Pittsburgh where Mike Tomlin thought he had a job for life after Pat Friar, Muth, Bader, Ginsburg scored a second half touchdown to bring the Steelers back. Ja'Marr Chase Ventura and Alrighty Higgins. Jim carried the offense on a cold night in the Steel City.

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In an episode of RuPaul's Drag Race, Queen had a sack, but it wasn't enough as Russ Wilson thought he had unlimited timeouts in

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the end only to go out as sad as possible.

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Bengals, 19, Steelers, 17. What? Possible. Bengals 19, Steelers 17. What?

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What?

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We go down to Tampa where Mike Evans Gate escaped blanket coverage and caught a comment from Baker to hit his 11th straight season with a 1000 yards. Take a big a big bite out of Jerry ricin's legacy. Clyde, the fresh prince of LAir, slapped the rock a few times with 32 yards on 8 carries, while princess Diana Spencer Rattler filled many drives with tunnel vision as he was chased around all day by his coach Darren Paparazzi as the Saints fall in their finale. The Bucks, 27. The Saints don't go marching.

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19.

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Up to the frozen tundra, it was a tough day for guys who are known for Jordan Love as Matt LaFleur had to put in his backup, Malik Willis, and Skip Bayless was named in a lawsuit. 1.5 mil to each.

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I can't believe you get you get turned down for 1.5 mil. How how gross is

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your dick? Speaking of the backup, Malik Phyllis had a fat, ugly day at the office. Keenan Allen Wrench said watch this 6 point play. Psyche as he threw a horrendous interception, but the Bears fought hard as Cairo made everyone sphincter tighten up as he lined up for the game winning Egypt shot. Bears 24, Packers 22.

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Who's your daddy? Whoop whoop.

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We go down to Dallas where Marcus the Virgin Mary Oda went untouched for a big run to put the commanders in scoring possession, making Dan Quinn look like a wise man for arresting Jesus Christ. Trey Lance Bass said, it's gonna be my to win this game. But at the end, it was a cowboy saying bye bye bye to Mike McCarthy. Zach Burch earning every dollar this year, scoring his 7 touchdown on the season, And the Commanders are ready for the playoffs. The

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playoffs? Playoffs?

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Commanders, 23. Cowboys, 19.

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We head to Philadelphia where Max was on the scene.

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We head to Philadelphia where Sheriani oni was saying, Tanner, Mikiki, do you love me? Are we thriving? Now we told the league you are arriving, and they want you, but I need you. You're our QB2. QB2.

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John g Spotson was absolutely fucking the Giants d all game as he went on to have his best game of the season. 1 of the lone bright spots for the Giants had to have been Tyrone Tracy Chapman who was saying that I could be a faster, but I need a ticket to get me out of here. Poor guy. Eagle 20, Giants 13. Thanks, Racks.

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We head to Foxborough where Hank is with us. We head to Foxborough where Hank is with us.

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Mitchell Trubisky. Was looking sexy in the red zone after a touchdown pass to Keon. I'm a Coleman. Bazooka Joe Chi Minh was the bringer of light, rushing for a score and throwing another to Keyshawn Derulo. Boot.

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Boot. In the 3rder in the 3rd quarter, James Too Many Cooks scored a TD, and Tyler,

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pass man, basement.

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And did you

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leave his

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And then he's

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in the corner?

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3 Joey Sly for a white guy. Field goals gave the pass lead in the first quart in the 4th overall pick. That's win. 2316. I I got I got a cool boom.

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Hey, you got

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a cool, Deech. Alright. We go to, Meadowlands where memes huge win. Jeff O'Brooke's the guy.

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Huge win. In MetLife, Rogers was feeling horny as he hooked up with Tyler Baughlan for his 5 100th 500 touchdown pass of his career. Ash Ketchamal Davis had 2 picks to help set up Alan LaCharizard as he burned the Dolphins defense with a fiery 13 yard touchdown catch. Tyreke Hank Hill said, damn it, Bobby. I'll tell you what.

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I'm out of here. As he had 2 receptions for 20 yards. Devonte Adam Sandler clicked with Aaron Rodgers for 1 last touchdown, but fast forwarded a little too much as time ran out on the Jets disaster of a season. Jets 32, Miami 20.

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Thanks, memes. In Atlanta where quarterback Michael Jackson took a look at the young Phoenix matchup and said, I gotta get a pick. Panthers 44, Falcons 38.

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What? What?

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Some spread in Mile High where Carson of Sam Wentz looked like he was getting play calls from his dog as both thugs and Harmony Knicks pulled out his dungest, rawgish bone in the Chiefs face as the Bengals pray. And they pray. And they pray. And they pray. Every day.

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Every day. Every day. But we'll see them at the crossroads after being bounced from the playoffs. Marvin, just for Mims, saved Broncos from a dye job as he played great. Playing the end zone points on the way to a dominating win.

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The Broncos 38. The Chiefs 0 points. Goose egg 0 points.

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Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see. Is DTR up against Lamar? No more rounds. Football Mercifully, that's a wrap. It's Bailey's happy.

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We're gonna start with the AFC. We are set with our AFC, playoff schedule. By the way, if at any point during this show, because we're we're we're taping it in parts so we can watch the entirety of Sunday night football. If they release a schedule, please, do breaking news because I I know that I I would've I would say the majority of America, the minute the playoffs are set, spends the next, like, hour just googling and typing into what's the app called?

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X.com, the everything app. It's all happening on x.

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They just type in playoff schedule over and over and over again Mhmm. Until, someone and there wasn't there a guy we found last year that that, like, his hobby is to predict it?

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He predicts, like, every schedule. Yeah. Well, on x, you are the media, and our darling Jake Marsh has released his prediction. So we can just say Jake's predictions right now.

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We can. And then we could we could we could judge them after.

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Let's judge them afterwards.

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Okay. Alright. So This is before Sunday night football.

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Yes. We don't know. We don't know yet. He's got 430 on prime on Saturday. Mhmm.

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Prime game. The chargers at the texas.

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That is, like, that's basically, like, getting space. Yeah. Yeah. You you you get a freebie.

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Now but he took a shot on this by saying that that's gonna be on Prime.

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Okay. But yeah. No.

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I think I think that stuff's

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I think it might be I think that's the shit that Jake knows that we don't know.

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We don't know. You think yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. You think for sure He

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would not take a gamble on a network

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like that. Al Michaels, so we're subjecting Al Michaels to the Houston Texans game?

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Probably. I took a, I took a guess this morning, when I was doing my fantasy corner, and all the replies were like, dude, technically, this game has to be this because the broadcast is like, alright. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out.

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Fair enough. I I I wanna just say, like, I wanna be able to predict the times and then the matchups.

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Yeah. No. Jake definitely looked all this is definitely

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He did his homework. Yeah. No.

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He did he did his homework. Yeah. Jake travel schedules

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Jake is reminding the teacher to assign homework to everybody else.

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Well, let me throw out a question here. Did Jake do all the travel schedules? Because doesn't is Kirk Herbstreit calling oh, I guess that's in Texas. Fucking he did it again. Yep.

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It's he's calling Friday night, Ohio State, Texas. You think In Dallas, he's just gonna go right over to Houston for Saturday.

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You think Jake doesn't know Kirk Herbstreit's travel schedule? He's probably he's probably got dog friendly flights that can take him from city to city.

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Yeah.

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Okay. 8 PM, Saturday. Commanders at Bucks.

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Okay? Do you want that? I don't think that's I don't think I I I think he's wrong as well there.

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I don't care. Anyone, anytime, anywhere.

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Alright. I love that for you.

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Yep. Sunday, 1 PM, Broncos at the Bills.

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I I think that's the the second layup on the schedule, I think those the the the first game and that game are almost guaranteed.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, especially the text. If you're a Houston Texans fan, for the last, like, 10 years, you can just pencil in what you're gonna be doing at 3:30 in the afternoon on that Saturday in in January.

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I might, by the way. I think I saw the line open at 7a half. If it if it's 7 or even 6a half, I might game of the year the Bills. I I don't think the Bills are gonna fucking demolish the Broncos. You don't think so, Hank?

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Hungry dog? I think the Bills are going to fucking demolish. Broncos have been showing some fight. Alright. We'll talk yeah.

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We'll talk about it. They're actually the first game

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we're gonna talk. 4:30, the afternoon game, Packers at the Eagles. Packers at the

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Eagles in Fox. Okay.

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8 PM, Steelers, Ravens.

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Yep. That would be awesome. That sounds about right. That'd be awesome.

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Hopefully, the Ravens just wear their clean black uniforms for that game. Yep. That's what America wants. Yep. And then we've got Monday, the loser of the Vikings, Lions game at the Rams, Monday Night Football.

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Okay. So that I mean, those are his predictions. We'll get the the final by the end of the show, but let's get into it. So we're gonna start with the AFC, the entire AFC picture, and, all the games from the AFC today. We have, to set the stage, Chiefs the 1 seed, Bills the 2 seed, Ravens the 3 seed, Texans 4, chargers 5, Ravens 6 or sorry.

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Steelers 6, Broncos 7. And we'll start with the game that kind of it it took all the intrigue out of Sunday. Broncos 38, Chiefs 0. I went into this game being like, hey. Maybe Carson Wentz will show us something and, keep this.

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I didn't think I never thought the Chiefs were gonna win. I thought the Chiefs might cover 11a half. He that was stupid of me. He's bad. Carson Wentz made

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me believe that this might be Patrick Mahomes' best season ever. Yeah. That's how that's how bad the Chiefs look today.

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Yes.

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Carson Wentz took the job a little too seriously. You could see when he was rolling up to the game and he was dressed like he was the magician opening an act for month Mumford and Son Yeah. That this was gonna be an all time shitty game for Carson Wentz.

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He what was he wearing?

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He had the suspenders. He had the, like, weird, like, 1920 style cap on. He had, the the best way to put it, when I saw him, I thought to myself, this looks like your most arrested friend, what he would wear to his wedding to make people think that he had class for 4 hours.

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Right. Right. Like, I really class this up.

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Like, check this out. I've got

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leather suspenders on. Oh, yeah. I'm looking at him right now. Yeah. He yeah.

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And he rented a land Land Rover to drive around for 4 hours to be like, damn. I really did. In English, he basically is like, I'm gonna look like a English countryside. Man.

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He's, Carson Wentz ruined America's Sunday again.

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Yeah. He he he he was trying a little too hard. Oh, this is Max. Max is so good. How many pictures do you think actually, it was FSU Brando that did it.

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Shout out to FSU Brando. But, yeah, Carson Wentz, he who's the, Sherlock Holmes? He was basically like, if I could be the backup for Sherlock Holmes, the musical.

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Yeah. The understudy.

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Yeah. The understudy. I'll I'll do that, and I'll show up like that. Not exactly exuding confidence. Carson Wentz made this game just it it was never I mean, it was more Beau Nicks was phenomenal, and the Broncos came out and they didn't fuck around.

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And I think that they should wear those uniforms all the time. Oh, for sure. Because those are the not fuck around uniforms. But, yeah, Carson Wentz.

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It was Carson to Carson. Carson Wentz to Carson Steele.

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Yeah. And Carson it Carson to Carson, their stat line, Carson Wentz was 10 for 17 for 98 yards. Mhmm. Carson Steele was 8 brushes for 25 yards.

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Okay. Your Carson power rankings.

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Mhmm.

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I got Carson Steele 1, Johnny Carson 2, and then Carson Wentz 3 for how they perform. To Okay.

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So I've got Yeah. I was gonna say Carson Daley. I have Carson Daley, 1. Carson Steele, 2. Carson Wentz.

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No. Johnny Carson, 3.

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Johnny Carson had a better day.

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Carson Palmer.

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Carson Palmer, 4. City. Carson City. Mhmm. 5.

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What other Carsons we got? Ben Carson. Ben Carson, 6. Tomorrow, Monday,

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January 6th. That's a that's a top day

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for Ben Carson.

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Yeah. Carson Beck. Yeah. 7. He just he just went he just declared for the draft.

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Yep. That doesn't mean he's gonna get drafted, but he's he declared for the draft.

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Yeah. There this was a big weekend for Carson. So the I'm at except

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for Wentz.

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I'm at I'm at 7. I'm trying to think. Are there any others? I guess I'll just then go 7 Carson Wentz.

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Carson Kelly hit 2 40 this year with 9 home runs.

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Okay. Okay. It's pretty good.

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Yep. It's pretty good.

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Okay. So so put him 7, and then 8 would be Carson Beck. There's pro you know what? Put 8 Carson just parenthesis TikToker. You know there is 1.

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Yeah. Probably. Fucking know whoever like, could be last name or whatever. I don't fucking know, but there's definitely a famous TikToker named Carson.

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Carson Wentz needs to be he's relegated to the Carson championship division.

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Yeah. So Carson Carson Wentz will be number 9 Carson for me. Yep. That feels right. Damn it.

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As for the Broncos, congratulations to Broncos for making the playoffs. It's actually an awesome story. So they this is the first time they've been in the playoffs in 8 years. They were this is a franchise that, what, 18 months ago to, like, you know, 2 years less than 2 years ago was, like, where are we going? Because it was Russell Wilson on a terrible contract, Nathaniel Hackett for 13 games or whatever it was getting fired.

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They had no way out, and then they get Sean Payton, and it wasn't great last year. But, Sean Payton, I owe you an apology. You're a hell of a coach. Bo Nix, I owe you an apology. You had a phenomenal rookie season.

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And the Denver Broncos are back in the playoffs. And you like, if you're a Broncos fan, this has to feel awesome because this is there are certain teams in these playoffs, and we'll get to it, and we'll talk about it all week. Like, Lamar Jackson and the Ravens have the most pressure of any team ever. Bills and Josh Allen as well. The Broncos are on gravy train.

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Oh, yeah. I know I that doesn't mean that they're not gonna try to win, you know, playoff games and get to the Super Bowl. But if you're a Broncos fan, getting to the playoffs in the 1st year of Bo Nix and having your franchise turn around, get out from under Russell Wilson, turn around this fast, have the future look this bright, have your defense be phenomenal. Like, whatever happens in the playoffs, next year in the off season is going to be a great time just getting pumped for Broncos football.

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Yeah. This season is a a clear win for

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the Denver Broncos. Clear win.

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Clear win. You've already won.

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Yeah.

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Congratulations. Yeah. But it's gonna be tough going to Buffalo. I don't envy them for that, but it doesn't matter. Like, you are playing with 0 pressure in this game.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, they shut out the Chiefs. Shut them out and Carson Wentz off TV

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forever. Didn't even make it like, we went into today, and we knew all the playoff iterations. And, obviously, we'll get to the Bengals Saturday night game. Like, they were still alive, and the Jets and Dolphins had implications. I just wanted this game to be, like, a little bit of drama, but the Broncos were just too good.

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And it's all credit to Broncos. Because there is there is a a world where the pressure of that game, a win and get in for the Broncos, they have, like, weird shit happen. And, you just knew it was their day on I think it was the 2nd or third touchdown pass by Bo Nix where it hit 6 different hands from the Chiefs. They got the Chiefs magic.

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Yeah. They got the Chiefs magic.

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That's that's some shit that would happen to the Kansas City Chiefs if Patrick Mahomes did that pass.

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But this also is set up. The Chiefs, you you know, they're they're set up for the playoffs. I know they're gonna have, whatever, 25 days off or whatever it might be if they play on a Saturday or Sunday with 24 days off. They'll win their 1st game in the in the divisional round. Do you guys all agree?

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It will be either the Texans, chargers, ravens, broncos. If I had to say, the only team that I would say the Chargers. The chargers just because the it's division and third time because the broncos

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Not the ravens?

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Stop. Beat a

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team 3 times. No.

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The ravens, they wouldn't play the ravens till the AFC championship. The broncos, obviously, in division 3rd time, but this game wasn't the bro the Chiefs didn't have their star pitch play.

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The game was over before they even touched down in Denver. Right? Because Kansas City was delayed so much. Yeah. They didn't take off till, like, what, 7 PM last night to get there?

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Well, the game was over when Carson Wentz, his wife put out the, you know, whatever the fuck that was his way.

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The game was over when he set foot inside Bent's warehouse.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. And he was like, you know what? Give me give me all the accouterments.

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Mhmm. You're gonna

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have to look at the way you look. I want I want a hat. Chargers could oh, 0, you're gonna do that now? Harbaugh? Hank.

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Okay, Hank.

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Hank, get it. Doing trolling.

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Tough to beat a team 3 times. Trolling, trolling, trolling, trolling.

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I I said when they they won that 3rd time I gave, and I said they took they look good. Yeah. They did. They can make a move.

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But, yeah, credit to Sean Payton and Broncos fans. You should be over the moon because this like, the future is just so bright, and it just has to feel so good knowing that you turned it all around that quickly. In 8 years, I've said it a 1000000 times before, but, like, the Broncos were 1 of those franchises that was the gold standard and just they never really had bad years. And I think they're 1 of the only teams that hasn't picked number 1 overall. They, you know, won Super Bowls with John Elway, won 1 with Peyton Manning.

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We're always, like, in the mix. So these 8 years have been very tough for the Broncos, and now it feels like you're starting a new opening up a new window of, hey. We're gonna be back to what we were. We're gonna be in the playoff picture year in, year out.

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You got new ownership Yeah. Turned everything around. Yeah. The Walton and Walmart money.

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Yeah. The Walmart money.

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Yeah. I am happy for Broncos fans. This has been big for them. And, Bo Nix, thank god Sean Payton looked inside his backpack.

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Yes.

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And was like, what's in what's in the bag?

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Yeah. Yeah. No. I I mean, Denver is a football town. They love their fucking Broncos.

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And if they wear those uniforms every day, like, every game, I every time I see them in the uniforms, like, man, I kinda love the Broncos.

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But those uniforms are so good that all it does is make me mad they don't wear them every week. Exactly. That's how good they are. And it's just something You gotta wear those high. Right?

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Yeah. Those are playoff uniforms.

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I don't know, though. On the road, you don't get to decide. The Bills will probably wear, blue. Right? I would assume the

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Bills will wear blue. Yeah.

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So they'll have to wear white. The Broncos will. Yeah. So that sucks. So maybe maybe just do the auto white uniforms.

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I mean, in the helmets, go with the helmets.

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You can go yeah. Blue helmets, all white jerseys.

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Yeah. Okay. Next game. Bengals 19 Steelers 17. So this obviously happened Saturday night.

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The Broncos game made this irrelevant. But for 24 more hours, the Bengals were alive. They are not alive anymore. They did not make it to the playoffs. They ended the season with a win, kind of hot, but that's gotta be 1 of the most frustrating seasons for a fan base, I've can remember in a long time.

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And not like frustrating, you know, the jets or the bears or the giants. Like, you had Joe Burrow in an all time season. Ja'Marr Chase who got the triple crown, and you just you didn't get a shot at the playoffs, and that's it's like a a what if in your head. I don't think they would have done a lot of damage because that defense even though the defense has been playing better. That what if would drive me insane.

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We can say right now, Chiefs really dodged a bullet. It's like getting Bengals bounced. Yeah. The Bengals, they're just weren't a very good team. They just weren't there.

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You have to be able to play defense and stop somebody occasionally. How weird does that week 1 game look now? Yeah. Week 1, Bengals lose to the patriots. That cost the patriots the number 1 pick overall in the draft.

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Mhmm. And it also kept the Bengals

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out of playoffs. Kept the Bengals out of playoffs. And the weird part about the Bengals season on Saturday night against the Steelers, it was their defense that saved them. Because, you know, that first drive was on easy mode for Joe Burrow. And then they didn't score it.

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They didn't get a touchdown again. And Trae Hendrickson was an absolute monster. They came up with stop after stop. He had 3 and a half sacks. He gets the rec or he gets the, season record.

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So he's he he 17 and a half sacks on the season, leads the league. I still every time I watch him, especially in the cold without gloves on, I get very intimidated. Mhmm. And, yeah, I I don't know what like, to have your defense finally play that type of game, it's like, goddamn it. Everything just nothing worked at the right time for the Bengals.

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They just ran out of time on everything.

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When was the last time a team finished with the the best passer, most yards, the top receiver, and the top sack person and missed the playoffs?

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I mean, I'm just gonna assume the chargers.

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Probably chargers.

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2011? Yes. Or or 8 or whatever it was.

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Whatever that year was.

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Yeah. But it is it it's got it's it's extra like, if you're the Bengals, it already was frustrating knowing you needed a lot of help this weekend. But then to have a game like Saturday night where your defense finally, like, bowed up and made stop after stop, and your defense has looked a little bit better down the stretch. Nope. Not gonna happen.

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Not gonna happen. Pickens put up, I think, 1 catch for 0 yards in this game. Was so bad.

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Looked checked out. Not on the same page. Who get yeah. Not on

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the same page turns out. Who gets the blame for that deep pass that I think Russ missed him on that. Russ didn't play well either.

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I think Russ missed him. It was very funny because I was watching I I went to, Derek Rose night, and then I I came home, and I got the last, like, 3 minutes of the the Bengals, Steelers game. And I was watching in bed, and my wife was like, who are you talking about who's not on the same page as Russ? And as she said it, it was that pass that would have won them the game. Yep.

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And I was like, it was that guy. And he laid there, and he was so frustrated. And he dropped he had, yeah, he had 1 catch for 0 yards, 6 targets.

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Yep. I think 3 drops. I don't know

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what the Steelers the Steelers just do the same season every year. And I it's obviously the reason for it is that since Roethlisberger, they've been in just complete quarterback purgatory, where they've been taking shots at guys, you know, year after year. But they like, they've lost 4 in a row. 3 out of 4 of them were 2 legit playoff teams. The 4th being the Bengals.

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They'd look like completely lost on offense. They did kinda fix it on defense, finally, but I don't this is what happens every single year. That 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 at the end of the first half when they couldn't get a yard. Yep. Like, they're just not a threat.

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Yeah.

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They're not a threat. And by by always being right around 500 but a little bit better than 500, they do miss on the opportunity to get quarterback. So they're probably gonna do another bridge quarterback.

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Yeah. Or Rogers.

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Or yeah. Maybe Rogers, Kirk Cousins. I don't know. I don't know who you're gonna bring in, but they're not gonna be in a position to draft 1, at least 1 that's any good. And so it's like that you're going to see the the exact same Steelers season repeat itself over and over again in the future.

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Yeah. I I, I saw a meme. It was, like, 22 hallways. Like, Steelers start well, Steelers, start poorly. And then both of the hallways led to, 10 and 6 bounce in the 1st round of the playoffs.

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Yeah. And That's just what it is.

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Every year. But the thing is, they could beat the Ravens. The Ravens are obviously a much, much better team right now. And on paper, it seems like the Ravens should dog walk them.

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But could because of the Tomlin's

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It's the Tomlin, Steelers, Ravens thing.

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Yeah. It is. And they were if Russ doesn't fumble in that game a couple weeks ago, like, going in, there were there would be up 147. They already beat the Ravens once this year. I don't think they're gonna beat the Ravens because I just don't know where the offense is gonna come from.

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But maybe it's 1 of those weird Lamar throws a couple picks, and, you get a a lucky fumble.

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I I saw a highlight reel of Lamar Jackson's interceptions this year. I think he's thrown what? 4. 4 of them? 4.

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And I think 3 of the 4 were, like, tipped balls

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Yeah.

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That that weren't really his fault, like, either deflected off his his teammate's hand or something like that. Lamar's just not turning the ball over this year.

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Yeah.

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But I in a weird way, although you'd like to see if you're the Steelers, you would much rather go play against the Chargers or something like that. I guess it wouldn't be the Chargers.

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The Texans.

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The Texans. You would much rather play against the Texans. But I feel like they have a decent chance against the Ravens.

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If you're if you're a Ravens fan, the Steelers are not the team you wanted to see. No. And I I I'm not saying that that the Steelers are anywhere near as good as the Ravens. The Ravens are far far better than the Steelers. It's just the familiarity and how these teams always play has to scare you because it's just a the, you know, single elimination, a fluke bounce, and the Steelers are the are the best of fluke bounce.

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But I just I I feel bad for Steelers fans, not in a way that, like, not when Billy said he felt bad for us. I feel bad in the fact that you can't complain if you're a Steelers fan because you go to the playoffs routinely, and Mike Tomlin never goes under 500. But you can complain because it's so frustrating living in this purgatory. And I understand, like, as much as I love Mike Tomlin, when Steelers fans are like, I'm sick of this. Get me off this ride.

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I'm starting to realize, like, yeah, they're actually right to be able to complain here.

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You're good at Jason. Yeah. You're you're good, and you're good enough to know how you lack that 1 thing that will put you into being a very good team.

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Yeah. They're good ish.

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You're good ish, and you're always gonna be good ish. You're gonna play teams hard, but you're probably not gonna do anything in the playoffs.

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You're gonna win a couple games you didn't expect to win during the course of the season. You're gonna lose a couple games you didn't expect to lose, and then you're gonna end up with a 6 or 7 seed and then lose in the playoffs.

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There's only 1 way to break this if you're the Steelers and you're getting your bridge quarterback. And you want a guy that's going to take chances. And if it it goes well, it's gonna be electric, but completely reset the identity of what your offense has been. And that's James Winston.

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Mhmm.

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You get James in there. Worst case scenario, you finish with a a bad enough record where maybe you could draft a better quarterback.

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I like that. Although

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I like that. I think if things go right, it's completely different. It is, like, is the antidote to everything that you've been in the last 4 seasons.

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Like that a lot. Jamis.

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Jamis in Pittsburgh.

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Jamis in Pittsburgh. Get it done. Do you think the Bengals re signed Tee Higgins? No. I was leaning no, And it's probably still no.

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But Joe Burrow as like, that was as direct as you can get. Like, you don't let that guy out the door. Yeah. And Joe Burrow is your franchise quarterback. I maybe.

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I mean, you should. Maybe.

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Well, I wanna be very clear. I'm not saying that you shouldn't. Will they? I don't think that they will, especially if they if they do move from Zach Taylor, which is I guess it's a possibility. I don't

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think they will.

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I mean, how much of that of this season can you put on the head coach, though? He would be 1 of the best coaches to be fired.

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Yeah. He definitely gets blamed for this season. So it's a pretty big failure.

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Yeah. Getting the talent that you have and the expectations,

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he's gotta get some of it. Listen. We love Joe Burrow, friend of the program, but this does feel, the famous window speech he gave. Remember, he's like, the window's always open when I'm here. This feels like the a cursed season from that.

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Yeah. Where it's like, no. Because you can have see the window's not always open because it's the NFL and the ball bounces wrong a couple games, and you're having a career year and still out of the playoffs.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's tough.

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They should this is why

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this is

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why we need NFL Bulls. He also should have

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told the burglars that his window's always open.

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Yeah. That's true. We should've this is why we need NFL Bulls. I'd watch I'd watch the Bengals and the Pop Tarts Bowl. Yeah.

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I mean, we just give it to us.

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Okay. So Bengals, who who would you have them play in a bowl? I would

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have in in a bowl Maybe the Falcons? The, Falcons would be a good 1. 49ers. Bengal Bengals, Cardinals? What about Bengals, Seahawks,

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and the PopDawgs would be good.

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Or a good game. Bengals, Panthers. Bengals, Panthers would be fun. Will Andy Dalton revenge? Yeah.

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Yeah. I I I'd watch that bowl game. Give us 1 bowl game. Do it, you know, I don't know, Thursday night after the first round Mhmm. So that we can we can still have Thursday night football and have it be for, I don't know, $10,000,000 extra in cap space.

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You don't think the Bengals would do that?

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I don't think they they would use that cap space.

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They would just like, we're still not re signing

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to you.

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They have it. Yeah. Can can you trade cap space? Because I think the Bengals would do that.

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Okay. Next game. Chargers 34, raiders 20. So this is the other consequential game. So the Steelers losing and the Chargers winning.

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The Chargers get the 5 seed. They go to Houston on, wildcard super wildcard weekend. This was the Chargers finishing 11 and 6 on the season. Incredible turnaround. Quintin Johnson was insane in this game.

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I think he finished with 13 catches, a 186 yards, making awesome catches. And the chargers finished the season strong. Feel like, Hank, they could beat the Texans. They're favored against the Texans.

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Like, they will beat the Texans.

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And then they'd have to go to to Arrowhead.

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I would ride them.

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What's wrong with you right now? I'm sick. You are? Yeah. Can't you hear?

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Yeah. I guess I didn't really notice because you were is that is that why you've been a little chippy today? Because you you're on medicine? Are you a little loopy?

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A little loopy.

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You have been a little have you noticed Hank's been a little, like

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Hank was very feisty.

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Yeah. He's been sneezing more aggressively than any man has ever sneezed before today.

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Is that true? Are you being are you being

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a bitch by your sneezing? Sneezing. I mean, I'm not not bitching. I just I, like, didn't wanna be sneezing in front of everyone.

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Is that a handkerchief?

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3 hours.

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It's a towel. Yeah. He's got a towel.

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She got a cum towel? Oh, that's a snooze towel.

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Yeah. It's snooze cum towel.

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Yeah. I think the chargers, yeah, could make some noise. I think they're officially might make some noise category.

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I mean,

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the way Herbert's playing, yes. Yeah. He's playing really well.

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Yeah.

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He's running with the ball well. I I'm not gonna put anything past Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh can a 100% beat the Texas.

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Yes. What do we think about what the Raiders are gonna do? Brock Powers, by the way, finished over a 1000 yards. Phenomenal season.

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Rookie record for Joe Connell.

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Kinda I kinda think he might be he might be a bridge quarterback in place.

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He might be good enough for the Raiders to go into next season and be like, you know what? Let's just run it back, and let's have AOC and Gardner Minshew battle it out this postseason or this offseason. We'll see who's gonna be QB 1.

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Yeah. I do you think they're gonna fire Antonio Pierce?

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I think they might. Because I think I think Tom Brady, like your good friend Mike Florio was saying, is, is gonna be leaning a lot more heavily into decision making than his, like, 1% stake ownership would lead you to believe.

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Yeah. Is there a chance Mike Vrabel can coach 3 different teams at the same time?

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Yeah. Mike can do it. Yeah.

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Yeah. He absolutely could do it. But, well, actually, can you grab Shane? Shane is our chargers fan. He said he might go to this game.

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He said he might go to this game if it's the Saturday afternoon game, and I was like, dude, it's the Saturday afternoon game. Don't worry about it.

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346 yards. That's a hole.

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Oh, no. It's in Texas still.

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Yeah. Hole. But he he's never been to a chargers game. He's never been to Texas. Never been to Texas.

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Never been on an airplane.

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He's never seen a football game live.

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Yeah. He's actually never touched a football.

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Houston Airport. God help you.

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God help you. Alright. Shane. What's up? Chargers talk.

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Real quick for the people. Shane is a diehard chargers fan. He's wearing his chart his 1 of his finest chargers. Charger stretch shirts. I didn't realize you were sick.

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Changes my whole perspective on today because it, like Do

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you have a fever?

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I thought I thought you were in a good mood today. I didn't realize you were just fucking doped up on NyQuil or DayQuil or whatever the fuck you're taking. We're all gonna get sick. Emergency? Shane, how are we feeling about the chargers?

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I feel great. Everything that needed to happen happened.

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Yep. And are you gonna beat the Texans?

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Yeah.

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Are you gonna go to the game? I'll try to. What does that mean?

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I'll see. I mean, it's a Saturday. Football game

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games on. I might have to work. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be on Saturday.

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I hope it's on Saturday. No.

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It's already 3:30.

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Oh, we're telling you right now. It's Saturday.

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They already announced it?

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Yeah. Basically. No? It's the Texans. It's it's gonna be Saturday, Shane.

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It'll be a good game. What are we talking about? It's Shane, it's gonna be Saturday. Okay. So are you gonna go?

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I will I will try.

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You need to go. Game time, we'll send you.

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Come on.

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I mean, that'd be awesome.

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Yeah. 1st game? So how how what's the vibe like, what do you what are the keys to the to the playoffs for the chargers?

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Well, biggest key was just, like, 5 seed. Like, Ravens, no chance, but I don't know. Just gotta not fall apart on offense.

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Okay. That's good. That's a good key. Score points?

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Mhmm.

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They give up little points. Give up little points. Yes. Like, field goals, safeties. Yes.

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Those type of

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Can I give you some tips? No touchdowns. You gotta you gotta run the football, and then you gotta stop the run.

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And then we gotta we gotta pass occasionally.

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Little points. Winappropriate. I don't think I've ever heard little points, but I like it. Little points. Okay.

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Thank you, Shane. Shane Shane is 1 of our our hardworking, guys on on PMT, also Italian. We had too many Italians here. Way too many. Way too many Italians.

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Is he really Italian?

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Yes. He's got blonde hair.

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Yeah. Blonde hair. I don't know.

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Northern Italian. Got a vowel on his last name, doesn't he?

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He does.

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A Mario.

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Everybody has a vowel on their last name.

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Yeah. We need more Italians.

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No. It's the last thing we need. Yeah.

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Okay. Next up, Ravens, 35, Browns, 10. The Cleveland Browns got the 2nd pick in the draft, which kinda was out of nowhere. Like, they were the the going into the season, I don't think anyone thought they were gonna be a great team, but no 1 thought they were gonna be the 2nd pick. And then Deshaun showed up, and he was terrible.

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And then Jameis showed up. I'm like, oh, they're definitely not gonna be the 2nd pick because he's gonna win a couple games. And then they went to the saddest quarterback duo of all time in Bailey Zappi and DTR. That bummed me out watching that game.

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So they got they scored 10 points, which is actually an improvement of of what we've seen from the Browns in the last 3 weeks. They've now scored 26 points in 4 games. So is that 6 and a half points per game

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Yes.

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Under the DTR slash Bailey zappy 2 headed monster? Yes. And then Ken Dorsey got fired for not being able to squeeze blood out of the stone Yep. For not being able to activate DTR appropriately. Yep.

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But getting fired by the Browns as a coach, that's that's a prestigious group that you can count yourself among. Yeah. Right? Because didn't Belichick was he fired?

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Everyone is Belichick.

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Gets fired

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by the Browns.

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Saban was probably fired by the Browns.

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Yeah. When you get fired by this the Browns, they probably give you, like, a nice Rolex.

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Yeah.

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Like, thank you for your service. We appreciate it.

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Hugh Jackson shows up first to those meetings probably. Hey, guys. Yeah. You see, we're all great coaches.

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Hey. What's what's up, guys? Oh, yeah. We're all we're all awesome. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. I won 1 game in 2 years. Mhmm. But if you talk to Mike Silvers, he'll tell you I got a raw deal.

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Yeah. But, yeah, the season's over for the Browns. You're probably glad. It's probably a good thing for you guys. The Ravens just looked like they were just they're gonna continue to be nearly unstoppable.

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Yeah. It's it's, like, on easy mode for Lamar right now. Yeah. Although, Zayeflowers getting injured. How injured is he?

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Can you just update on that?

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I know there was an MRI scheduled. I don't know what happened with the MRI. But, yes, that is very, very significant. This is a big part. Although

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Bateman looks pretty good too.

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Yeah. And Mark Andrews is, like, fully fully back. Because I know there was that stretch of the season where it was like, what's up with Mark Andrews?

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Mhmm.

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Is Isaiah likely the guy? No. Mark Andrews is the guy. Let's see. Can we find anything about Ze Flowers?

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You got look it up, Max, while we talk about the game. Lamar's probably gonna win the MVP. It's I don't know. It's close. It's an awesome MVP.

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I I hope it's Josh. Lamar so he's the 1st player in his in NFL history to have 4,000 yards passing and 900 plus, rushing yards in the same season. He's also the 1st player in history to have over 40 touchdowns with under 5 interceptions. 41 and 4 is what he finished with. He was insane all season.

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I it is 1 of the coolest MVP races we've had because it's such a good MVP race that the guy who has 2,000 yards rushing is, like, not even talked about.

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Yeah. So if you're a Ravens fan, are you more confident going to this postseason than you were last year?

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You have to be because of Derrick Henry.

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But you don't have home field.

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You don't have home field, but you have to be because of Derrick Henry and what he did this year. Derrick Henry, statistically, probably had his best season. I know he had a 2,000 yard season, but he had he carried the ball, I think, 60 or 70 more times that season. This he he turned 31 on Saturday, and he had 1,921 yards and 16 touchdowns. It's insane what he did this year.

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That is crazy also to think that Derrick Henry is just 31. Yeah. Because in running back years, he might as well be, like, 60.

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But he had an incredible season, and I think the the presence of Derrick you can't refuse to run the ball like they did last year against Chiefs when Derrick Henry is in your backfield. Mhmm. That's just a fact. It's almost you put Derrick Henry there so that you have to remind yourself all the time. Oh, yeah.

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Who's that guy who's standing on the sideline? Who's a beast that no 1 can tackle? Oh, yeah. We should probably run him.

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Yeah. That's why you get the biggest guy you can find to be your your Bell Cal running back. Right. As you it's impossible to ignore Derrick Henry.

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Right. So, Yeah. I I think that, I I think you feel more confident going in this year. I think you are still though very nervous because this is the most important playoffs in Lamar's career, I think. Because he's gonna be coming off what most likely is gonna be 3 is it 3 straight MVPs or 2 straight and then his 3rd overall?

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I think it's 2 straight And

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it's 3rd overall. 3rd overall. Yeah. And you have everything.

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And it

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might be home field. It might be his best season, and he's skinny.

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Yeah. And you have everything. And, your d the defense of the Ravens has played a lot better in the in the in the back half of the season. I know their secondary was a worry for a while. It's gotten a lot better.

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So, yeah, I think this is the I if you had to do the maybe let's do that on Wednesday. Let's do pressure rankings. Which team has the most pressure? I like that. I think I think it would be the Ravens.

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I think Lamar Jackson has the most pressure.

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I would agree. I think I think if you don't win it this year in Baltimore, you're like, we're never gonna get it done.

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If you don't at least get to the Super Bowl. Mhmm. Super Bowls can go 5050. You know, it's 1 game. If they don't get to the Super if they lose the bills of the Chiefs, there's gonna be a lot of questions.

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What are you thinking, Max? They've such a tough road. I know. But that's They have to go on the road. Really good team.

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Then on the road to Kansas City.

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But they're a really good team. And the and last year, they obviously had home field advantage. They blew that. They blown home field advantage a couple times as the 1 seed. You don't think that they're number 1 in pressure rankings?

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Yeah. Would you say the Eagles have more pressure?

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I personally think the Eagles have more pressure.

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I do not think the Eagles have more pressure. I think the Ravens have the most pressure because Derrick Henry is also not getting younger. And Lamar again, Lamar is the is the best player in the NFL right now playing the best football. He's gonna win an MVP most likely. I hope it's Josh.

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But you got, like, you gotta do it. He hasn't been to a Super Bowl. I think it's 1, 2, Lamar Josh for most pressure in these playoffs.

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I would say I

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I think Josh has more pressure.

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Yeah. I was gonna say, I think I think the Bills and the Ravens are just about the exact because it's both they're both fighting the same battle, which is to finally be able to beat the Chiefs.

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Yeah. The only reason I would say the Bills don't have as much pressure is just because this was supposed to be a mini rebuild year. Yeah. Well flip the roster. The Ravens have 9 Pro Bowlers.

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But once you're there, though.

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Once you're once you're there I agree.

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You've had a I agree. Season as the Bills have had. I agree. I think I think Bills fans are definitely as nervous as they've ever been.

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Last year, they might have had more pressure because that was the end of that, you know,

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roster. And

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they're hooked in.

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I know. The Bills are gonna be honed that game and favored.

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We'll save it for pressure rankings on Wednesday. We'll have a debate. Well, maybe we can go to supreme debate.

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I don't know if we wanna go there.

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We can think about it. Depends on how sick Hank is.

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Well, I don't know. I would skip Bayless method.

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Supreme debate.

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That's why Hank got this job, actually. Yeah. Paid him a half $1,000,000 to fuck me.

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Mhmm. He said no. Oh, by the way, Michael Pierce, that interception was awesome. The bus ran out of gas. Yep.

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I really wish he had tried to give us a little bit more.

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What's that?

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I just I he's so big. Him running was so funny. I think he was Kneeled right away. I think

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it was perfect, though, the way that it he was just like, fuck this. Yeah. He was like, I'm I'm already tired. I've my plays are usually over after 4 and a half seconds.

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I can't

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you can't expect the ground with this football.

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Who did the Browns take with the number 2 pick?

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Maybe Cam Ward.

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I'll say it. I don't know I don't know if I would take Chador 1 or 2. I know you're not supposed to say that here, but I'm I'm gonna say

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it. Why?

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I think I would take Cam Ward before

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I would take Cam Ward. I've I have Cam Ward ahead of Chodorov on my board.

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I do too.

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But I got Travis Hunter number 1 overall. Yeah. I also 2 players.

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I also think that this is not a good QB draft that maybe you just take a really there's some really good players in this draft that are just not QBs.

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I got Cam Scatterboo, number 1 Mhmm. Overall. Mhmm. Number 2, I've got Tyler Crowe? Actually, no.

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I I don't. I have, Hunter is 2. And then I've got Cam Ward, then Chador. Okay. That's my top 4.

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Nice. So

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you don't have Ash and Gente?

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I don't have Ash and Gente on there.

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Okay. Oh, before we talk Patriots, Bill's breaking moves. Breaking moves. Let's just come back out of these breaking moves. We do have our playoff schedule.

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So, Jake Marsh went 4 for 6. Pretty good. He's beaten himself up a little bit. But, we were exactly right. Chargers and Texans are gonna kick it off on Saturday, at 4:30 EST, 3:30 CST.

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So somebody somebody posted the history of the Texans Yeah. In this time slot. And 2011, Saturday, 3 30. 2012, Saturday, 3 30. 2015, Saturday, 3 30.

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2016, Saturday, 3 30. 2018, Saturday, 3 30. 2019, Saturday, 3 30. 2023, Saturday, 3 30. 2024, Saturday, 3 30.

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Have they won, like, 2

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of those games too? Like, I feel like they don't I they're they're off.

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They beat the Bengals in 1 of them. Because the Bengals used to be the king of the Saturday, 3:30, and they passed the torch.

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They beat the Raiders in the 1 that Derek Carr got hurt right before. And, who the fuck started that game? It was, I think, an ex Michigan

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Oh, yes. Yeah. It was, was

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it a Cooper? No. It was a Michigan State quarterback. Fuck. I think Cook?

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Yes. Connor Cook. Connor Cook. But, yeah, Shane doesn't know ball to be like, oh, the schedule's released. You sure it's Saturday at 3?

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Yeah. It is. It's the Texans.

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It was always Saturday.

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It's the Texans.

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You know what? Part of my take is the first report. The Houston Texans will play on wildcard weekend

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Yes.

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In 2026, Saturday, 3:30. Yes.

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So we're we're starting off with the the chargers of the Texans. They were doing Steelers at Ravens Saturday night, which I love. The the Broncos at the Bills, the early game on Sunday, which we all said was a guarantee. Those are the 2 guarantees.

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The

[00:50:37]

early Texans, early Broncos at Bills. Then it is Packers at Eagles. Max, afternoon's spot. Are you feeling okay? You like it?

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Yeah. It's a good spot.

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And then PFT, you have the night game on Sunday.

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I was a little surprised for the night game on Sunday.

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I thought you were gonna get the Monday night game, to be honest.

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I

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thought Monday night was a possibility. I thought Saturday night. Sunday, it's like that's the game that they think America wants to watch the most.

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Yeah. It's NBC.

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That's that's Jaden.

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Yeah. And then, we have the Minnesota Vikings going to the LA Rams on Monday night for the super wildcard weekend. So we're very excited. I'm very excited for football. And we have Thursday and Friday football too.

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Okay. Patriots at Bills. Patriots win. They blow their shot at the number 1 pick. It was very clear.

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We had this debate, I feel like, about the Bills maybe throwing it. And you're like, I don't know if they they will. They did.

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They did. They did.

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They did. They started Josh Allen, Hank. They did start Josh Allen for play. That's a 115 straight starts. I think the moment where I was like, yeah.

[00:51:42]

They're not trying to win this game was when they punted from the patriots 35 yard

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line. The missed field goal to keep it so that if the it was basically a a 2 point game instead of a 3 point game that missed extra points. Sorry. And then they took out Mitch.

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Yeah. Yeah. They took out Mitch, put in Mike White. We said Mike White sighting. Joe Milton.

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Joe Milton. Bazooka Joe came out today. Joe Milton looked awesome.

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Bazooka Joe. Like, he you get a chance to play ball out.

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Yeah. That's what you do. When he scored that rushing touchdown that he did a a casual backflip in the end zone afterwards, I'm man, you you might have 2 great quarterbacks.

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Yeah. A couple, yeah, a couple, like, passes across his body that were thrown, like, a 150 miles an hour.

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He's got

[00:52:20]

a cannon.

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We are still in phase 1 of the Joe Milton experience.

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He was playing against backups. But

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Yeah. But still, it's Joe Milton. He can he can bomb it. So, and then the big story is maybe an hour and a half after the game ended, the patriots officially fired Jerrod Mayo. So he's a 1 and done coach.

[00:52:40]

Pretty crazy because I what was it in, like, September, Robert Kraft said on a broadcast that he basically picked Jerrod Mayo to be the next head coach 5 years ago. Yeah. I I mean, Hank, you wanted this to happen. I feel like this was a smart decision.

[00:52:58]

I do think it was a smart decision. I also think that they wouldn't have done it as quickly as they did if they didn't know that they are getting the coach that they want, which I believe is Mike Vrabel.

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Yes.

[00:53:08]

And the fact that Mike Vrabel had just interviewed with the jets, he was gonna interview the Bears.

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On Wednesday.

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On Wednesday. It felt like Robert Kraft was like, I have to make this decision now because Mike's my guy.

[00:53:19]

I guess he also interviewed with the Jets, and then shortly after changed his Twitter picture, profile picture, which he's not a very active Twitter user, to a picture of him when he was playing for the Patriots.

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Mike Vrabel did. Yeah. He has a Twitter? Yeah. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't realize that.

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I think there's a good chance that That's fine. That Mike Vrabel went into that interview and just said, fuck you guys. I'm a Patriot. Yeah. And then left He

[00:53:43]

just he actually probably went in there and got a bunch of info on how they run. So he's like, I'm gonna be a division foe in a matter of hours. Well, he could've got

[00:53:51]

their info on how they run with Madden update.

[00:53:54]

Yeah. Or just or just followed Brick on Instagram.

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Yeah. So, the note that Robert Kraft dropped, it was a it was a lengthy breakup note that he published for the world. Did you have a chance to read it?

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I did not.

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Oh, you didn't? You should read it. It's like Robert Kraft opened up his diary. The 1 part that stuck out to me was when he said,

[00:54:12]

is Robert Kraft on x, the everything at?

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He has not put the New England Patriots on, and they released this. It's not that lengthy. It was pretty 3 paragraphs.

[00:54:20]

I mean, come on.

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It's too long

[00:54:21]

for you to

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join this time, dude. It's that's lengthy.

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Like, I am not a reader, and this didn't maybe this wasn't like I'm not reading this shit.

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Well well, you didn't read it.

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I'm sick. I was I didn't even I didn't

[00:54:32]

see it.

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What? Cat. Oh, yeah. Why don't you say?

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Hank, why

[00:54:34]

don't you read it, and then we'll we'll put in, like, 600 speed.

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After the game today, I informed Gerard, I don't have a

[00:54:41]

the Patriots. The Patriots. Personally, this is 1

[00:54:43]

of the last two's I've ever made. I had no Gerard for 17 years here in my respect and admiration as a rookie in 2008 and throughout his career for his play on the field. His leadership in the locker room and the way he conducted himself in our community when he joined our coaching staff, his leadership is even more evident as I saw how the players responded to him. When the other team started requesting an interview, I figured I would lose him and committed to make him our next head coach. So basically sounds like that he was just Yes.

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He hired him because he was scared.

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Yeah. The fact

[00:55:06]

that he included this in the statement was like

[00:55:08]

That's tough.

[00:55:09]

I'm trying to escape blame for this. The only reason I hired him was because I thought somebody else would hire him. That was my mistake. Winning our season opener on the

[00:55:16]

road at Cincinnati strengthened my conviction. So he they were So

[00:55:19]

that was that was there. Yeah.

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We're good. We beat Joe Burrow and the Bengals.

[00:55:22]

Like Dynasty back on. Since buying

[00:55:25]

the team, I've always considered myself and my family as custodians of a public asset. We have that's a big time

[00:55:30]

for me to speak

[00:55:32]

to. Mhmm. Alright. You got the I got the gist of

[00:55:34]

it. Yeah.

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Yeah. So you are gonna get Mike Vrabel. Yeah. It was basically everyone every every fan base that had an opening, dreamed of Mike Vrabel. I did that.

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I know Memes did that.

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If you have

[00:55:49]

an opening, you want Mike inside that opening.

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Yeah. Even even the Raiders did that, and they don't even have an opening. And then this happened. And it's like, well, there goes that. So Mike Vrabel will be the next coach in the New England Patriots.

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Should do you wanna report it first per Henry Lockwood?

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No. I'll I'll let the things play out. I don't wanna I don't

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wanna drop the gun

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first. Alright.

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That's fine.

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Me and Big Cat will do

[00:56:10]

it. Yeah. Per

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Per party

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and and Big Cat. No. Per Henry Lockwood. But Hank doesn't wanna report it.

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No. I know. But you can write whatever you want on a

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That's true.

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Report. So Good report, Hank. Per Henry Lockwood.

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I don't get why they didn't

[00:56:23]

say it.

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Head coach?

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I think that's no. It is of I am of the belief the answer to that question

[00:56:28]

is yes. Per Henry Lockwood. Yeah. That's the put it out. Per Henry

[00:56:32]

Lockwood's beliefs in the system.

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Memes is the 1. So I I wanted Mike Vrabel as the coach of the bears, but I also am in a spot and will get to the bears packers. I I've already mentally moved on from Vrabel and Ben Johnson because I I've heard some things through the grapevine that the bears are gonna end up with, like, Brian Flores or the DC of the dolphins or Maybe the Lions. Some random college coach that no one's thinking about. And it's like, oh, okay.

[00:56:59]

This is awesome. So I already moved on. I already moved on. Memes, though. Memes is a little upset because memes was very confident that he was gonna get Mike Vrabel.

[00:57:11]

And not only was he company he's gonna get Mike Vrabel, now he has to deal with the fact that Mike Vrabel is gonna be going against him in the AFC East. Memes.

[00:57:21]

Damn. Nothing nothing's confirmed yet.

[00:57:23]

Okay. Well, no. Hank did.

[00:57:24]

So you're not in denial?

[00:57:25]

No. Are you denying Hank's belief? No. It sounds like you are, though.

[00:57:30]

Oh, I'm denying that nothing is official yet per me.

[00:57:34]

Mike Vrabel's interest in the Jets was just a smokescreen to pressure the Patriots to make a move at head coach.

[00:57:38]

Oh, yep. Makes sense. Damn.

[00:57:40]

You were used used and abused.

[00:57:43]

Yeah. You were you were a rebound. Mike Vrabel went on a date with you, took a picture, popped it on Instagram. His ex is like, yeah, we Let's get back together.

[00:57:52]

Go back to that 1. Go back to that 1. Was told that Mike Vrabel's dalliance with the Jets a dalliance. Was put pressure on the patriots to make a move with a young incredibly promising QB who improved every weekend despite very little talent.

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Did Drake may write this?

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No. It's Joe. D t quinnelimabile. More cap space than anyone in state of Washington here. No.

[00:58:11]

What is

[00:58:11]

this tweet?

[00:58:12]

There's no way that was close to being.

[00:58:14]

It's not

[00:58:14]

a correct pronunciation.

[00:58:16]

I just think of Jake. He says it so confidently. So you're Did he clean hold that?

[00:58:20]

So you're gonna get just Hank, just report that Mike Rabel is gonna be your next coach so that other teams don't don't even interview him.

[00:58:29]

No. I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna set this franchise back years by cursing it.

[00:58:34]

Okay. But would you say, overall, I mean, this it feels like you've come out of this bad season outside of, obviously, blowing number 1 pick today. Pretty damn good. You got a lot of cap space. You got Drake May, and you have Mike Vrabel.

[00:58:48]

There's also a decent to beyond decent chance that the writing was on the wall in Mayo, like, was gunning for everything to win that game.

[00:58:56]

Yeah. In which case, why would you let him coach this game?

[00:58:59]

That doesn't make sense.

[00:59:00]

He sold Lovely Smith.

[00:59:01]

That does not, man. Yeah.

[00:59:02]

This is in Texas. I My

[00:59:04]

gut tells me that the writing was on the wall, and, like, players probably had an idea. He definitely had an idea. But, yeah, they should've just done it before the game.

[00:59:13]

The fact that Schefter said it before the game tells me that somebody somebody knew. Like, people had talked about it. And then to let him go out there, coach the game, win the game, cost you the 1st overall pick, and all that could have gone along with it for a trade. That's kind of a weird decision. But, yes, the it's the 1st patriots coach to be fired after his 1st season since since Rod Rust.

[00:59:37]

Rod?

[00:59:37]

Mhmm. Old Rod Rust in 1990.

[00:59:39]

It doesn't happen often, the 1 and dones. It's probably, you know, it's probably been, what, like, 10 of them in the last 20 years or so.

[00:59:46]

Yeah. Get rid of a coach 1 season too early instead of 1

[00:59:49]

season too late. And it's actually hard to remember him.

[00:59:52]

Steve Wilkes. Oh, what's the guy from the Browns? Chudzinski? Did he

[00:59:56]

Yeah. Did he get 1? Nathaniel Hackett.

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Freddie Kitchens? Was he

[01:00:00]

Are they interim? I think he was interim.

[01:00:02]

Was he? No. Freddy was

[01:00:03]

Oh, yeah. He was. Head coach. Shit. We're going head coach.

[01:00:07]

What'd you guys do?

[01:00:08]

2 years of trust men.

[01:00:08]

Frank Wright. Oh, yeah. He had 2 years of trust men.

[01:00:14]

Let's see who else. Oh, is there another 1 in the cardinals? Shit. The cardinals?

[01:00:20]

No. I don't think so. Oh, this is good. The 1 and done's. Can we get any more?

[01:00:25]

I don't pay I don't pay for this.

[01:00:27]

1 and done's. Was was McAdoo? No. He had to eat 2 years. He had a couple.

[01:00:31]

Yeah. 2 years?

[01:00:32]

If you

[01:00:33]

could have started the season and said that

[01:00:34]

Jeff Saturday.

[01:00:35]

Drake May is gonna play well.

[01:00:36]

Jeff Saturday.

[01:00:37]

He was, like, 1 week in time. Yeah.

[01:00:39]

He's gonna be leading all the graphs. He's gonna be at the head of the graphs, graph talk. The patriots gonna have the 4th overall pick, and Mike Vrabel is gonna be our coach going to 2025. Like That's

[01:00:49]

a win of a season.

[01:00:50]

Cannot write up a better season.

[01:00:51]

Hank finished

[01:00:52]

So I I don't the first pick sucks, but, again, you gotta look at the big picture.

[01:00:55]

The patriots finished with the 2nd worst record, and they also had probably a very positive season

[01:01:03]

Yeah.

[01:01:03]

Yeah, at the same time.

[01:01:04]

Yeah. The the the arrow's pointing up for you.

[01:01:07]

That pickles. I feel I I wish I wish I could give that win to

[01:01:11]

the Bengals. That's huge. That's nice. If you like seeing Cincinnati, Hank can't, but he he would love to if he could, he would love to

[01:01:19]

give you that win. Put you in the playoff.

[01:01:21]

That sucks for Jerrod Mayo, but also kinda not like, in a weird way, it was, like, you don't wanna be the guy who follows the guy, and now they got the buffer guy. Mhmm. It's kinda what you did with, like, Cam Newton, although Mac Jones wasn't the guy after that. But the buffer guy is always a good guy. Because then he's just like, oh, yeah.

[01:01:39]

There was a guy in between. It's it is not so

[01:01:41]

Being a bad team that it felt is hard, and I'm just happy that we're kinda have a a path outward. Like, it's it's it's tough to just, you know, lose week after week going to these

[01:01:50]

games. Talk. Turn on your mic and

[01:01:51]

your own.

[01:01:52]

Bad. They are still bad. You still don't have a head coach. But Mike Vrabel could be coaching anybody.

[01:01:57]

There's no doubt. He's in denial.

[01:01:58]

He could

[01:01:59]

be in denial.

[01:01:59]

He could be in Jacksonville.

[01:02:01]

A lot of places in

[01:02:02]

It's better to just move on mentally, memes.

[01:02:05]

But you would say whoever gets Mike Vrabel that they're gonna be on on the right path forward.

[01:02:09]

Depending on the correct roster. Mike Vrabel in Tennessee inherited a good roster.

[01:02:15]

How does the Patriots cap space look like?

[01:02:17]

Oh, good question, Max. 130,000,000.

[01:02:20]

How is his free agent? A lot?

[01:02:23]

How is whose?

[01:02:24]

How is his free agent signings? How is his drafting?

[01:02:26]

Will Compton. Well, I've heard of him.

[01:02:27]

That has a lot to do with GM too.

[01:02:29]

Yeah. That's the GM show.

[01:02:30]

It Mike Rable.

[01:02:31]

Listen, memes. You're gonna get Aaron Glenn. He did a great job tonight. It'll be fine.

[01:02:36]

Jay's a good guy. Yeah.

[01:02:37]

Rex Ryan.

[01:02:38]

Here you go. Rex Ryan. Ron Rivera.

[01:02:41]

Yeah.

[01:02:42]

The names go on.

[01:02:44]

You see, memes is I feel like memes is always 1 step behind me in the process where it's like, I I went through this process, and I was like, we're not getting Ben Johnson. We're not getting Mike Rabel.

[01:02:54]

You and memes will never be on the same same thought process ever with your team.

[01:02:58]

I understand. I'm saying I'm 1 step ahead of him.

[01:03:01]

No. But he'll but he'll never get to your step.

[01:03:02]

Right. Right. He can never fully never

[01:03:04]

accept that the Jets suck. Right.

[01:03:06]

Alright. Hey. We had this discussion the other night where he was, like, you the difference between me and you is you were in denial. And I and he and memes is, like, yeah. I was, like, dude, you're still in denial.

[01:03:16]

And he's, like, what? We could've won 11 games.

[01:03:17]

We could've won 11.

[01:03:18]

1 season away from what memes? Success.

[01:03:21]

Okay.

[01:03:22]

Alright. Here we go. The, 1 and dones. We got Reich, we got oh, Lovie Smith was 1 and done.

[01:03:26]

Yep. Hackett, Cully. Could not pick Cully out

[01:03:30]

of a lineup. Urban Meyer. Remember his collars? He always had, like, unusual collars. Yeah.

[01:03:35]

Max just clicked away from that very helpful graphic we had up. Yeah. Being 1 of

[01:03:40]

those look

[01:03:40]

at David Kelly.

[01:03:41]

Fred Kitchens, Chip Kelly. Like, all these guys, you like, do

[01:03:45]

you even say that you used to be head coach? I obviously, some of them are different. You know, Chip Kelly and Urban Meyer are different. Lovie Smith's different because they coached somewhere else for a very long time. But if you're if you're Steve Wilkes, if you're, David Culley, do you tell do you say to someone, like, yeah.

[01:04:02]

I I was a head coach in the NFL. And they're like, wait. What?

[01:04:05]

I I think that if you're a David Culley or a Steve Wilkes and when the time comes and you pass away, it's probably not the first thing that's mentioned by you. No. Like former Texas coach? Probably not. No.

[01:04:15]

Okay. Well, you know what memes since you're talking about it?

[01:04:17]

I truthfully forgotten that Chip Kelly was the coach of the 40 niners.

[01:04:20]

Yeah. Yeah. He, didn't go well. No. Well, he was, what, 2 years at the Eagles and then 40 niners?

[01:04:28]

I I wanna say 3 years with

[01:04:29]

the Eagles.

[01:04:30]

Been 3 years. Yeah. Alright. So, I mean, since we're talking about it, let's talk about your big win. You had a huge win.

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Massive win. Jets 32, Dolphins 20. Aaron Rodgers throws his 5 100th career touchdown, throws 3 touchdowns look good. Ulbrich might be having he might have something cooking memes.

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We were headed in the right direction. I was kinda freaking out during this game because I thought we were gonna fall to number 9, but Damn. It was a good win. And Oh. We just fell we fell 1 pick, so it was a good win.

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It was a good win. It was a

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good win.

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It wasn't a terrible win.

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It wasn't as bad as the win could have been.

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No. I thought I thought we were falling to 9. Aaron? It would have been the worst. It would have been a horrible win.

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So Aaron Rodgers looked good. Do you think maybe give him an extension? He's gonna be a lame duck quarterback next year.

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Jets fans probably won't like this. I would I would do another year.

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Yeah. You would. See, this is the denial part.

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Well, there's no other options. If you lay out all the options, it's just get a young guy in, let Aaron Rodgers teach him.

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Oh, because he's notoriously for good at that.

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Yeah. But you just try to go for it next year.

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Okay.

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Because if you say with Aaron Rodgers that he had this season, top 15 quarterback, that he played this well, you would think they won more than 5 games.

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Top 15 quarterback is that's quite a line to draw.

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Yeah. But

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do you think he wants to come back to the jets? No.

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This is like Florio told us exactly what was gonna happen. He wants No.

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He doesn't know. He no stick.

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Florio laid it out. He does. Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to have to beg to come back. He wants to be told he wants the jets to break up with him, and then he can go somewhere else.

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But if you get Mike Vrabel or Aaron Glenn in there.

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True. Mhmm. Mike Vrabel's not gonna coach the jets, dude.

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Anything could happen. Anything could happen.

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The big story though from this game is the Dolphins, obviously, 2 it in play. So they it didn't matter because the Broncos ended up winning so easily and so quickly. But they would've they had a chance to win and get in if the Broncos had lost. And then after the game, Tyreek Hill, said that he I just gotta do what's best for me and my family. If that's here or wherever the case may be, I'm finna open the that door for myself.

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I'm opening the door. I'm out, bro. Yep. It was great playing here, but at the end of the day, bro, I gotta do what's best for my career. It's I'm too much of a competitor to just be out there.

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Do you

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think that's best for his, considerably large family for him to just be like, I got

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I'm out.

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Gonna leave the state. I'm out. You guys can move with me if you want.

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It's the first time he hasn't been in the playoffs, so he's he's dealing with that emotional right after a game. I am going to make a guess that someone's gonna sit down, Tyreek Hill, and be like, you see all these zeros that they gave you? You should say with the Dolphins. He's like, alright. Fine.

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I'm back in.

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Maybe. Maybe. And that's kinda what Mike McDaniel said afterwards was like, he's probably very emotional, so I'm not gonna talk to him right now. I'll talk to him in a couple days. But that's as definitive as an answer as I've heard where he's like,

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I'm out. That is also what I feel like he does that shit all the time. Like, did he do he tweets cryptically about shit like that sometimes where I don't know. I'm not I'm not surprised by Tyreek Hill, saying that. I need to go coach.

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Yeah. I need to go coach.

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I think he might have meant, like, coach it. Get me out of here.

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Yeah. So we'll see how that goes, but the Dolphins are back, and and and then Steven Ross, declared that everyone is safe.

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Everyone's safe. Stability is important.

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Stability is important. I mean, they they did have They had a

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decent second half of the season.

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I would say if you're the Dolphins, you it it's probably worth taking 1 more shot at this iteration. I would also say that you probably want to invest very heavily in a backup quarterback.

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Yeah. So their plan going into the season was like the Raiders plan going in with their starting quarterback,

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which

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is like, we're you're really gonna do that? We're gonna do Skyler Thompson again. Yeah. We're gonna do Snoop Huntley. That's gonna be your solution.

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Get a good back.

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There's, like, hope that Tua stays healthy. Yeah. They should run it back, I think. Mike McDaniel's a very good coach. Yeah.

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And They just they got better in the second half of the season, but it does continue what happened after that that whomping of the Broncos where the Broncos just kept improving and the Dolphins just kept getting worse.

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Yeah. They kept on getting worse. I'm also I I'm happy the Broncos are in the playoffs and not the Dolphins. I said this. I know Dolphins fans were upset, but I just didn't really wanna see Tyler Huntley have to go to Buffalo and play a playoff game.

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And they'll say, oh, well, we only lost by 3 with Skyler Thompson. That's that's fine. I still I still would prefer Bo Nix.

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Yeah. It's probably better for you that you don't have to go through that. Yeah. Like, just move on.

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Yeah. Okay. Other last 2 games in the AFC Texans, 23 titans, 14.

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Wait. There was there was 1 other thing from Aaron Rodgers. Oh, yeah. Post game presser. They read him a report at the press conference saying that, people close to you have said that you're likely to retire after the season.

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Mhmm. And his answer was people said they were close to me, which is a great turnaround on him. Like, nobody's close to me. Yeah. I like that.

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He's so mysterious. I do like that. So I guess it's not a no.

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Yeah. But I don't think they're yeah. I would I I wouldn't I wouldn't guess there's more than, like no. There's probably no 1 close to him.

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Yeah. Probably no 1 super close. Well

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I watched some of his Netflix. I kinda wanna do it on iTunes. Davontay Adams, maybe, but not really. We did walk off the field again together. That was kinda nice.

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Mhmm.

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Because

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they did that last time with the, packers. Who knows? I think he's got 1 I think he's got 1 or 2 more years left. It would be hilarious if he found a way to get to the Vikings. I don't think I think that's pretty crowded, but it would be very funny.

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Are the Steelers? Steelers. Titans would be a bummer.

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I could see it, though.

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I don't think so. I think he's got I think he's gotta go to a team with a really good defense and just be a game manager. Vikings? Memes is gonna say that's the Jets if we figure

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out We could just load up on defense.

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Say that's the Jets.

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Load up on defense.

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What about Good.

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The San Francisco 40 niners?

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Mhmm. And and

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He's coming home. We talked to Florrie about that. He said

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won't stop talking about the Jets winning the Super Bowl ever like, the ever since we got off the Jets, our mics have been muted, and he just keeps saying because

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if they if they load up, Peyton Manning's Super Bowl year. What? He had 9 touchdowns, 13 interceptions. He had a horrible year, and he he was a game manager, and he got him to the Super Bowl.

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That defense so you're saying get a bad quarterback.

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No. No. No. I'm saying if you take Aaron Rodgers with his stats right now

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Yeah.

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And you load up on defense, top 15, you you have a chance to do it. You know what?

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Where are you getting a young Von Miller?

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We have Jermaine Johnson coming back.

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Von Miller was out of this world. You could draft someone? He was defensive player of

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the year.

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You have a defensive player of the year?

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You never know. Will McDonald, Jermaine Johnson?

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Okay.

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I believe. If

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sauce doesn't hit the links this off season and and That's true. Preps?

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Mhmm. No. He he he bounced back after Arizona. He

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Alright. Titans, 23, titans, 14. The titans finished 215 against the spread. That is a that's about as shocking of a stat as you have. Yeah.

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Eagles has gotta be pissed. Yeah.

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They get that small. 215. 215 against the spread. The titans also got the number 1 pick, which that was kinda out of nowhere. Like, they that wasn't a team that was going in the season.

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You said they would be the number 1 pick. And now they have it, and they're probably gonna pick a quarterback because they did both today, Will Levis and Mason Rudolph. And, it didn't didn't work out. And the Texans did a little warm up. They had CJ Stroud in for 1 drive, 6 for 6, 50 yards.

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Joe Mixon carried the ball, like, 5 times, 30 yards. Touchdown. Boom. They're ready to go. Playoffs.

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Damian Pierce with a huge game today.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So there Yeah. That, like, was it? 80 yard run?

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Yeah. Would he end up with, like, a 170 something yards? Yeah. I I've always liked Damian Pierce, but I I I understand that he hasn't been the player that a lot of people expect him to be. But I still think he's a nice running back when Mixon's not getting it done.

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Yeah. I would like to see them use Pierce a little bit more often. But, yeah, it was this game was not really anything nothing really noteworthy. Davis Mills landed on his neck. Yeah.

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That was pretty entertaining.

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The titans wore the Oilers jerseys. Those are always awesome, but they shouldn't get to wear them.

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They shouldn't get to wear them. And they gotta know at this point, karma's not on your side when you wear those in Houston.

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No. I think Schefter said Brian Callahan is safe, which I'm happy he is. I I don't think he should be a 1 and done. But, yeah, this was just a bad team in a very, like, season to forget for for the Tennessee titans. Mhmm.

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They feel like a little bit of a lost franchise.

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, they have to they have to figure out quarterback. Yeah. But they're in a position where they can do that.

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Yeah. Okay. Last in the AFC, Colts 26, Jaguars 23. I'm a say it. I think Doug Peterson never lost the locker room.

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They actually fought pretty hard in this game. He's gonna get fired. It would be funny if they just forgot to fire him because he should've we all thought he was gonna get fired, what, 2 months ago? Yeah. After their bye week.

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But I don't think he lost the locker room. I mean, they played an OT game in week 18 where the season's been over for for months months months, he might not have lost the locker room.

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I bet there was some radical transparency going on that locker room. I bet you Doug Peterson after the fight was like, guys, just so you know, I'm fired.

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Yeah. K? I'm not coming back. Just keep trying.

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But keep trying and remember that you might get signed to a better team if you play well on this team. Yeah. Also, Brian Thomas junior, you're awesome.

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Yeah.

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He's Keep doing you.

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Broke the rookie record 11 games at 75 plus yards. He's awesome. Mac Jones took a hilarious sack, 3rd and 6 in overtime. He took a 16 yard sack where he just was spinning backwards. That was very funny.

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Also, this might have been it for Joe Flacco. Yeah. This is out with a win if he did.

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I think he said he wants to play next year. Good. I want him to play next year too, Joe.

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He actually should be the backup in Miami.

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That's not a bad idea. Yeah. So did you see the fan of the game that they had today?

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Yes, Seth. This is our Colts guy. Yeah. Yeah.

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They brought him up before the game, but I think they played his his fight song on the jumbotron before the game. Yeah. Great job by mister mister Irsay. But then mister Irsay ruined all that goodwill because after the game put out a statement saying that everybody's safe.

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Yeah. Everyone's safe. Chris Ballard is getting his jobs, keeping his job. I thought Shane Sikan would be safe. The Chris Bauer thing is insane.

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It's it he's Rasputin. Yeah. He's got Jim he's the only guy that filters stuff out that goes to and from Jim, so he knows exactly what to tell Jim Irce to make him feel good about everything. He knows the right buttons to press, and then he's got a very safe job. Because if you can make Jim Ursay love you or at least think that he can't go on without you Yeah.

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Then you're just not gonna go anywhere.

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Yeah. So I I would be very frustrated if I was a Colts fan. I feel bad for Colts fans. Chris Ballard is I don't know. It just feels like a mess, and, you're just gonna keep going with the mess because they just are good enough to win 7 or 8 games, and you can you can look at it sideways and be like, oh, not too far.

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Anthony Richardson is not the answer. I've been saying that for a very long time. I think most Colts fans agree. If Flacco

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had played every game this season, do you think that they would have had a couple more wins?

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No. Probably not. I mean, he went he went 24. Yeah. So I don't know if you can say Flacco was the answer.

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Well, he wasn't the answer, but he might have been an improvement over Anthony Richardson. But he wasn't

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record wise. And we could

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be talking.

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But he wasn't record wise.

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Yeah. But there were some game you remember Anthony Richardson lost some very winnable games?

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For sure. For sure. But Joe Flacco also

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a couple game winning drives.

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Lost.

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Yeah. Yeah. He did. He had a couple really nice ones. I mean, may who knows?

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Maybe he'll figure it out. I just I've never been the biggest fan. I am rooting for him to figure it out a little bit because it does feel like the whole world's coming at him, and that sucks. Mhmm.

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But Seems like a nice guy.

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Seems like a nice guy, and the stories are not great. And I also I I wanna give a little credit to the Colts. I don't remember the last time I've seen exactly this, but, if you look at the box score, Jonathan Taylor was the only 1 to have a carry for the Colts, and he had 34 of them. I love that. Yeah.

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That is cool. That's 34 for a 177. Not a single carry by anyone else. I love that.

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Yeah. Didn't I thought that Flacco ran with the ball 1 time.

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It wasn't. I I think it was penalty problem. Yeah. And I I think it might have even been a sack because he didn't get there. Okay.

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But, yeah, it it was just a cool stat to look at, the Jonathan Taylor. That's a that's a real bell cow. Look at that. Look at that. You don't see that very often.

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It's clean. Yeah. That's as clean as it gets.

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Clean ass box score.

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Joe Flacco threw all the passes. Jonathan Taylor ran all the balls. Man, the Colts are a bummer, and the Jags are a bummer too. But the Jags are gonna get Ben Johnson. I've I've I've resigned myself to that.

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I I think that's that's exactly what's gonna happen.

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And you're gonna get Trevor Lawrence back?

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What do you mean? Like, they're they're gonna get yeah. Yeah. They're gonna get Trevor Lawrence back, and they're gonna get Ben Johnson. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. So good for them. Happy for the Jags. Okay.

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Okay. NFC. We have the Lions at number 1 seed, the Eagles, 2, Bucks, 3, Rams, 4, vikings 5, commanders 6, packers 7. And we'll start with the Sunday night football game. Lions 31, vikings 9.

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That was an absolute ass kicking by the lions. Both defensively and then in the second half. Offensively, Jamere Gibbs, especially 4 touchdowns. He is so goddamn good. And the lions win the NFC North.

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They you know, I I don't wanna say deserved, but the lions were that was I mean, after watching that game, they deserved it because they they throttled the Vikings. Vikings' offense looked abysmal tonight.

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Yeah. The Vikings tried to do the Dan Campbell thing, and they thought, like, a lot of us, like, you you have to score touchdowns to win this game. Yeah. So they instead of kicking field goals, I think turned the ball over on downs twice inside, like, the 5 yard line. Yep.

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It seemed like Kevin O'Connell was thinking to himself, like, in order to beat Dan, I have to become Dan.

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And they they Sam Darnold, was bad tonight. He was really bad.

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And he's usually very good against the blitz, but he was not tonight. He was missing everything. Terrible against the blitz.

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Yeah. Overthrowing, just didn't see it looked like he could not see it. And, Alex Anzalone coming back felt like it was a big boost for the Lions' defense.

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Do you

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see his arm? Yeah. Anzalone's arm with all the stitches on

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it? Crazy.

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It's absolutely insane. It looks like he turned his forearm into a football. Yeah. It's it's crazy. What do you say?

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Like, everybody wants to be a dog until you have to do dog shit.

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Yeah.

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He did some dog shit tonight.

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Yeah. That's a hard quote.

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That is a very hard quote. I'd like to say that at some point in my life.

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Yeah. But the Lions now have home field advantage, and the Vikings have to go on the road to the Rams. I am officially back to worried about my pinky because the Vikings were not inspiring tonight. Now you could make the argument, and I thought about it after you know you know, when you're watching a game, you're like, man, I feel stupid for this. The way the Vikings celebrated after winning the Packers game, it did feel like they maybe got a little ahead of themselves like we did it.

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And this game I mean, it wasn't I know it was close in the first half, but it wasn't close in the fact that the Vikings, they just couldn't make a big play when they needed to at any point.

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Yeah. The run game was okay.

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The cam Akers had that big run, and then what happens? Like, they can't score. It's just it it was time and time again, they weren't able to make a big play. What would they have 2 times they got they got 4, you know, turnover on downs within the line Lions 5 yard line. Mhmm.

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They couldn't make a big play.

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Yeah. They they tried to beat them in the first half by saying we're gonna have to get 6 every time we're down here. And then, the the Lions will break off big plays against you. It's just a matter of when. They tried to do the thing in the first half where they're like, okay.

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Gibbs, we're gonna spell them for a little bit with, was it, Patrick?

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Reynolds. My bad.

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Yeah. Reynolds. And then they thought to themselves, why are we doing this? We don't have to have, like, a 2 running back system. Let's just feed Gibbs.

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Yeah. No. Gibbs was, he had a 139 yards rushing, 31 yards receiving, 4 touchdowns. He did whatever he wanted whenever he wanted to do it. And, it's a lot of credit to Aaron Glenn, future coach for memes.

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I felt like he had a perfect defensive scheme for Sam Darnold, and he just he was never comfortable. And it never felt like the the vikings could get any type of momentum. Like, I I don't remember we watched that whole game. Do you remember more than I mean, they had that Cam Akers run all the way down. They had a they had the Jared Goff, interception at, like, the 50 yard line.

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They almost had another pick 6 from Jared.

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Yeah. But I don't remember any drive where it felt like the Vikings went down the field, and it was like play after play. They were they were hitting it and and found a rhythm. They had no rhythm.

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Their their rhythm was, like, occasional passes to Naylor.

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Yeah.

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And besides that, they weren't really doing a whole lot.

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Are you, now that the lions have home field advantage, Max, were you kind of hoping for the Vikings to be the 1 with the home field advantage? Okay. So how does this how does this change your

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The the lions also they they really turned it on in the second half, but in the first half

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Oh, yeah.

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Looked very beautiful.

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But their defense was always there. Their defense played their that was the best defensive performance the Lions had had in

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a long time. Aaron Donald had 3 how many times I mean, Aaron Donald Sam Darnold had how many times did he just miss a wide open guy in the end zone?

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But he it was part of the pressure. Like, he was so

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But Sam Darnold I know.

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Sam Darnold sucked. But it's still like, you I'm giving credit to Lions and the fact that they have had some really bad defensive performances in the last month, and they've been very injured. This was a very good defensive performance by the lions. Would you not agree? They had him just completely flustered.

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What'd he end up? 18 for 41? Do you think Sam Dermott cost himself some money tonight?

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He might have. But at the same time, it's like 1 game. Well, it's

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it's basically It's an important game. I don't think he cost himself money tonight, but it could be if he has a bad game next Monday. Yeah. Because then it's like because this was a playoff.

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It made you think a little bit.

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Yeah. It made you think, oh, shit. That wasn't good.

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Yeah. I don't think that we can look at this and be like, Sam Darnold is back into a pumpkin.

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No. But if Monday night if if let's just say, Vikings fans probably aren't feeling super easy right now.

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No. I mean, they lost to the Rams.

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I know. I'm saying they don't they don't feel easy right now. They went to sleep not feeling easy. And I'm telling you, Vikings kicker, his face, negative confidence. I know he kicked it to Alabama, but it's just negative confidence.

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He had he did kick a couple in the first half, he kicked a couple, and then at the end of the half, he kicked it out of bounds with 20 seconds left. The lines were able to get it 3 points out of it. Mhmm. And he missed the 52 yarder later on in the game.

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He missed it badly too. Badly. And then you could tell he was thinking about it.

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Right. And you could also tell he was like, damn. This is late for a school night. Yeah. I need to get home.

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He is face balled.

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He you gotta have a kicker that has at least the ability to grow beard. Yeah. So, yeah, this, it it looked like Aaron Glenn had the answers, like, written down before the game even started.

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Right. Like,

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it was never even an option that was gonna be close.

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That shot of him sitting on the sideline? Yeah.

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He he sat down

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and pulled it. Hanging out. Yeah. Like, this is so easy. He's like, we got this.

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I got Sam Darnold in my back pocket.

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Because I feel like even though Sam is good typically against the blitz, not all blitzes are created equal.

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Yeah. So what is it saying for, Terry and Arnold's Possible fibula. Possible fibula, external rotation of ankle, worry for high ankle sprain, but officially a foot. Well, he does have a foot. That is officially a foot.

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But they also have the buy now. And their 2nd round matchup, how would you feel about going to the Lions?

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Anybody, anytime, anywhere.

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I like that. That's smart. That's smart. And it could be the Vikings going back to the Lions. That is true.

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Very I mean, if if everyone holds serve except for Yeah. The Vikings or the Rams.

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That's what Dan Campbell said to O'Connell after the game.

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What'd he say?

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He said, see you in 2 weeks.

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Oh, wow.

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Well, a

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little NFC North pride. That's disrespectful. That's good for you, Max. That means that the Eagles won.

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Yeah. I would I would take that win.

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Dan Campbell said you were gonna win. Dan Campbell's a winner. What a season for the lions. 15 and 2.

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Do you think that he was gonna go for that?

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No. I don't. I actually don't. Dan Campbell's crazy. So what Max is asking is there was a moment in the game in this with about 6 minutes left, and the lions were up 15 points.

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And it was 4th and 2 from the 6 yard line ish, the Vikings 6 yard line. The lions got to the line of scrimmage like they were going for it, got a Vikings to go offsides. I actually think he was gonna kick the field goal there.

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Yeah. He he was not gonna go for it, though.

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You don't

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know that? No. He was

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I know I know. That. I didn't say I know it.

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No. PFT. I know it. Said it.

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I know it.

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No. You don't.

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I know they they were not gonna go for it. They changed their entire cadence. Did you hear the broadcast?

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Yeah. But they could have They changed their entire cadence. Called the time out and then gone for it. Dan Campbell has definitely done that before.

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No. Because it was it would have been to make it an 18 point lead, Max. I'm just gonna go

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for it. Dan Campbell does dump shit all the time like that.

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No. He does winning shit.

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He's a winner. He's 15 and 2.

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He has he won a Super Bowl?

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No. He's winning shit.

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Does he have the does he have the highest winning percentage in the NFL?

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He this year. And Yeah.

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Out of current active NFL head coaches.

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This season.

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Yeah. Did you just learn a new stat?

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No. I've I've I've already said I said this last week.

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Okay.

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So if

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you wanna talk about regular season winning, Nick Sirianni is a winner.

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Yeah. But

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So yeah. But Dan Campbell's a good regular season winner. So is Nick Sirianni. Let's see what happens in the playoffs.

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But Dan Campbell also took took over a dumpster fire of a team. Nick Sirianni took over a team that had won a Super Bowl 2 years before.

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Yeah. And then they they were coming off a dumpster fire every year that led

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to the

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hiring of ad coach.

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You're talking about the Which Ross? Detroit Lions. I mean, Dan Cable went 3 and 13 his 1st year on a terrible team that has rebuilt everything. Dan Cable's a better winner. You can't say that

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a guy's a bona fide winner until he wins the Super Bowl. It's that how many times are we gonna say it? We say it about every other guy in every other sport. Win a Super Bowl, then you're a winner.

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Okay.

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Who's the winner?

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Win a Super Bowl, then you're a winner.

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You

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got the Hank, what

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are your thoughts about regular season wins?

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You got the 1 seed.

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Don't mean shit. Okay.

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Thank you.

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Alright. Win a Super Bowl, then you're a winner. So there's, like, barely any winners.

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Bill Belichick, winner.

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Sean McVay.

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Sean McVay, winner.

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Okay.

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Mike Tomlin, winner. Mike McCarthy.

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Mike Tomlin, is is there a expiration on that? No. Winner. Okay. Because it does feel like there could be an expiration on, like, Kevin Ollie's

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sporter. Kevin Ollie, winner. Yeah.

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Like, those are but, like, you get you you can't just say someone's a good coach because they're a winner.

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Doug Peterson.

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And they've never won us

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to win.

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Remember how this debate started.

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Max is getting overly emotional because he's afraid of the Lions. Okay. And so he's trying

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to No. No. No. It just said Dan Campbell does the same shit as Nick Sirianni, but for some

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reason No. For some

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reason, Dan Campbell Wrong. People think it's fine. That it's because he's a winner.

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No. He wins in the ring. Campbell does it consistently, and he has, like he he So

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does Nick Sirianni.

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No. You you know that Nick Sirianni chooses when when and when not to do it. He does stuff sometimes where he kinda loses his mind.

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So does Dan Campbell.

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You know, but it's always consistent. I've I had made this argument a 1000000 times. Dan Campbell is crazy, but he's just Then

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he should've gone for it, Tim.

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No. He was no.

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That's just that if you're saying that, that's what you're saying.

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No. Because it actually made sense to kick it there, to go up 3 scores.

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Does shit that doesn't make sense all

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the time.

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When has he done that?

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I I can't remember the exact play. Literally, past

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2 going up, up 3 scores. He might have. I don't know. Do you have a time?

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No. But there there was something in that in that I think it what what was it? The Bills game in the late in Q4 where we were, like, what's the

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kick the yeah. He kicked the the the, No. He went for kick. That was stupid. That

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wasn't it.

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Are you talking about it against the Cowboys?

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No. It was this it was a Sunday it was a Sunday night game.

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Alright. Fine.

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Do a

[01:31:37]

little homework and come back to us. Okay?

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Max, why are you so upset that we're lavishing praise on Dan Campbell for getting

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more people

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from the Detroit Lions?

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Everyone's an enemy right now. It's playoffs.

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Correct. Everyone's an enemy.

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Okay. Yeah. Everyone's an enemy. Everyone's an enemy. It's playoffs.

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Except, actually, there's only 1 team that's not an enemy for you. The commanders.

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Well, they could be if they make it to Yeah.

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But you're Right there, you're

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just assuming that they're not gonna make No.

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No. No. No. I'm saying that at least for a few weeks, you don't have to like, the commanders and you guys can't play each other for at least 2 weeks.

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No. Everyone's an enemy.

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But they you can't play each other for 2 weeks.

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You know who's not an enemy? Bears. You know who's not an enemy? Jets. You know who's not an enemy?

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Patriots. Those who aren't enemies.

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Alright. You know what? Fine. Fuck it. I'm not gonna give you the blueprint on how to beat the Packers.

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Fair. You shouldn't have done that. I could have told you all the secrets because that that's all I do is beat the Packers. Alright. That was good talk about the Lions.

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We were talking about the Lions.

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Yeah. So the Lions Did you

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talk about the Knicks?

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We said a lot

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of nice things about the Lions until Max had to just poop all

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over you.

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He can't tell if your Lions are

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in the playoff mode. I love it.

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Let the fucking Detroit Lions fans enjoy a 1 seed, Max. They're 15 and 10.

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Was doing was just asking the question of whether he was gonna go for it. And then this conversation

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I do not think he was going to go for it. I do not think he was gonna go for it.

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Yeah. Also, this is just a hypothetical that has no answer. So that was a stupid thing

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to do

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in the first place.

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If if it hadn't worked, which would you have to Max, you have to be consistent. Right? We've talked about this. If you're gonna criticize him, you have to compliment him for going with it and having a plan where it worked. It ended up That did work.

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Yeah.

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It did work.

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That did work.

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And, listen. If the Lions' defense can play like that and Viking's offense is good. If the Lions defense play like that, they are that was the perfect if you ask the Lions fan before the game, that was the perfect way for that night to end. Win the NFC North and do it with your defense looking good. You didn't wanna win a game, another game where it was 45, 42, and you're, like, going into the playoffs, being, like, look at what happened against the Bills.

[01:33:48]

Look at what happened with the Niners game with, like, a bunch of backups, and they were just going up and down the field. That was

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that felt good. And they didn't do it with huge chunk plays either. Yeah. They did just by grinding them down.

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Yeah. Yeah. So credit to the Lions, 1 seed, deserved, 15 wins. Sucks for the Vikings winning 14 games and having to go on the road, but that's just how good the NFC North was this year.

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Yeah. So they're gonna go to Los Angeles on Monday night,

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and worried.

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It's I'm a little bit worried too.

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This is Sam Darnell face mask game.

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We can we can talk about the Rams when we talk about the Rams, but that's another thing.

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Yeah. I I I'm worried I'm just worried. Okay. So the other the other thing we had to decide in besides seeding in the NFC today was the Bucks Bucks 27, Saints 19, Bucks win the NFC South, Bucks get the 3 seed, gonna take on your Commander's PFT. This was a weird game because the Bucks for the first 2 and a half quarters look like they thought they could just show up and win this game without even trying.

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They looked like garbage to start the game.

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Yeah. It was very sloppy.

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And then Baker Mayfield, had back to back drives that ended the game essentially where they went 12 plays, 82 yards, 12 plays, 94 yards, touchdown touchdown. They let they let I guess, the the bucks were correct in the strategy of like, hey. Spencer rattler rattler can't play 4 quarters, where he's good. And that was correct. But the bucks looked slow, finished strong, and then we had Mike Evans get his 1,000th yard, which now makes him tied for Jerry Rice 11 seasons, 1,000 yards.

[01:35:30]

Pretty awesome accomplishment. He's in hall of fame wide receiver. Very, very cool.

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The last play of the game, though, where they hit Mike Evans on that. You like that? I do. I I didn't like it.

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$3,000,000, I like it. Yeah.

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It's okay. I get that. I get that part of it. Yeah. But, also, what I don't like is it it looked like the guy on the Saints that was matched up against him was like, yeah.

[01:35:51]

Just run your 5 yard out. I'm gonna turn around and go downfield like you're running a deep route, and then we'll turn around tackle it.

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If this was Mike Evans 2 things. 1, if this is Mike Evans' 2nd year in the league, 3rd year in the league, like, that's bullshit. He's been in the league for over a decade. He's a veteran. Seems like an awesome dude.

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I'm okay with it for 5 yards. And the second thing, the more important thing, I'm okay with it because he missed, what, 4 or 5 games for injury. Yeah. If he had played all 17 games and they needed that shit to get him a 1000 yards, he'd be like, oh, come on, dude. But how many, how many games did he end up missing or or not play?

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Because that like, he would have gotten a 1000 yards if he didn't get injured. Yeah. I know injuries are part of the game, but that does change it a little bit. And he's only,

[01:36:36]

what, like, 5 yards away from it.

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It's 5 yards away. It wasn't like, you know, he needed a 100 yards.

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Maybe I'm old school, big cat. I don't like the idea of a guy letting you have yards.

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5. You had

[01:36:45]

to fight for every yard of this league.

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So he played 13 games because he got injured in 1 of them, I believe. So so, yeah, he, I mean, he missed 4 games. He would have had it easily if he hadn't gotten injured. I'm I'm okay with it. I don't know.

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I'd like to $3,000,000 dude.

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Yeah. I'm happy for him to make the money. I I'm curious to know what Jerry Rice's thoughts are.

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I don't know. Mark Gaskin. Gas. Jerry Jerry Rice.

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He wants those yards back?

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Yeah. Yeah. I I I had no problem with it. I mean, the the only argument I would I would consider is, like, it technically is a very dumb thing because what if tragedy happens and and you throw a pick and your playoffs are on

[01:37:25]

the line? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, it could have caused

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That part makes sense.

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I just yeah. I would have liked it a lot more if the Saints had at least pretended to play defense on it.

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Yeah. Than a little than a little something something. Otherwise, it just looked at like a scripted play. Are we looking at it like that for, Max?

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Nothing continue.

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You found something?

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Yeah. I found exactly what I was what I was talking about.

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Okay. So go ahead.

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Against the against the Packers

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k.

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On green

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wait. Oh, no. Oh, no. I'm cutting this. No.

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You can't cut it.

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Cut it.

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Do not cut this. Do not cut this.

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The what I what I really was gonna say was in that same game, it didn't work out. They were up 3 points at the beginning at the beginning or at the very end of the Q3, went for it at 4th down, and they're on their own 30, didn't get it, gave up a touchdown, gave up the lead, but the Lions came back

[01:38:15]

and won.

[01:38:15]

Okay. That has also, like, not 3

[01:38:18]

point lead, which is not 30, but the the the the the same

[01:38:22]

as what we're talking about.

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And kicking a field goal to make it 18 points.

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Good second.

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Oh, man.

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Well, that's why

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That's what you came back with.

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Even That's what you said. Wanna talk about this. You said you looked at me, and I and I then I looked

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I thought exactly what I was talking about. Good work, Max.

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I'm cutting the all of that.

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No. You're not. Yeah. No. You're not.

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Yes. I am.

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You can't do anything about it.

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There's nothing I can do about it, and I wouldn't know if you cut it or didn't. So that sucks. Other 2 Jaylen McMillan is awesome. Yeah.

[01:38:51]

He's very good.

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He's really good.

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And I

[01:38:52]

still love Bucky.

[01:38:53]

Yeah. Bucky's awesome. Don't you you gotta get in war mode. Don't compliment them

[01:38:58]

too much.

[01:38:59]

I can compliment them. I'll compliment them. You don't. Great player. Don't.

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Just a rookie, though.

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The they brought the duck back. Did you see that? I did see that. Duck was there. You gotta

[01:39:08]

I gotta get rid of that.

[01:39:09]

You might have to go down and kill that duck. I think

[01:39:11]

we gotta sign Carson Wentz to be the backup.

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Get down

[01:39:13]

there and execute that fucking duck.

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Yes. What what the hell do the saints do? Have have the saints? Who's gonna who's gonna take the saints head coaching job?

[01:39:21]

I don't know. I don't know who's gonna get the saints job. It could be it could be a real wild card of a hire.

[01:39:26]

I feel like there has been every open job has had someone name attached except for the saints. Mhmm. Is she gonna get whoever's left?

[01:39:35]

I'm thinking I'm thinking it's gonna be somebody very boring.

[01:39:39]

Drew Brees. Give it a shot. Yeah. What? Yeah.

[01:39:41]

He's boring. What about coach O? Coach O be sick.

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Get coach

[01:39:45]

O on the Saints.

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So sick.

[01:39:47]

I mean, the okay. Here's what I'll say about the Buccaneers. Congrats to them. Was this 5 straight playoff appearances? Bit of an NFC South merchant, those those Buccaneers.

[01:39:56]

If you ask Stephen Shea, they're, 1 of the most dominant teams of the first half of

[01:40:00]

this decade. The NFC South has been so fucking bad outside of the Tom Brady years. Great for the Bucks. Good job. You won a Super Bowl with Tom Brady at the end of his career.

[01:40:09]

That's awesome for you. The NFC South has been so bad year in, year out. Panthers? What about him?

[01:40:15]

Cam Newton? No. He's talking about the last 5 years. Last last

[01:40:18]

5 years.

[01:40:19]

A bit of an NFC South merchant, if we're being honest.

[01:40:21]

Yeah. Even top race last year. Would they finish 9 and 8?

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And then they did beat us in the playoffs.

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No. No. That was the year they lost to Cowboys on Monday Night Football.

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Yeah. 2020. Yeah. But I do like Baker. I'm gonna have to turn on Baker this week.

[01:40:34]

He's such a dog. He ends the season with, 4,499 yards, 44 total touchdowns, 71.4% completion percentage. He's awesome. Mhmm. He did the thing today where he ran over a guy and then stepped over him and and basically started an entire fight between both teams while walking away.

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Yeah.

[01:40:53]

He was like, keep keep talking about me while I'm going.

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Yeah. He was the joker meme with the with blowing up.

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Yeah. It's

[01:41:00]

like, this is where I just started.

[01:41:01]

Yeah. Baker scares me a little bit. I'll be honest.

[01:41:03]

Also Jaylen McMillan also should probably put his guns away for the playoffs.

[01:41:07]

Yeah. So that was an interesting moment because he did the the first down sign. Yeah. But they thought he had, like, trigger fingers or at least a handgun as 1 of his hands. But he actually had his fingers taped together from an injury.

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Yes. Then he goes up to the ref and shows him, it's not a gun. My fingers were just taped together. Yeah. Is that an excuse?

[01:41:24]

No. Because they kept the penalty.

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Yeah. It's not an excuse. Yeah. Also, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers would never allow guns in their stadium

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No.

[01:41:29]

Besides the giant

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Absolutely not. Alright. So are you are you worried? Are you ready? You wanted the Bucks.

[01:41:35]

No. I You said you wanted the Bucks. I wanted anybody.

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I really wanted the Eagles. I'm bummed out that we're not gonna get the Eagles. I wanted that. The Rams concern me because Sean McVay concerns

[01:41:44]

me.

[01:41:45]

The Bucks also I mean, we saw it in that game against the Cowboys on Sunday night Football. Like, they don't I feel like they don't rush the passer great, so that should give Jaden a lot of time.

[01:41:56]

They're good at stopping the run, though.

[01:41:57]

They are good at stopping the run. Todd Bowles kind of

[01:41:59]

a birdbrain when it comes to making decisions about things.

[01:42:02]

That was 1 1 play that sticks in my mind from this game today was Clyde Edwards Zallaire, got a little bit of daylight, and he ran into Vitavie. And Vitavie didn't even tackle him. He just stood with his belly out. Yeah. And he literally ran into him and fell backwards.

[01:42:18]

Yeah. Vitavie does concern me a lot.

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Yeah. He's a monster. Another guy who doesn't wear gloves. Yeah. Scary.

[01:42:24]

So is he I mean, you guys could win this game. It's 3 point spread.

[01:42:28]

If 3 point spread. Also, Mike Evans, great player.

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Mhmm.

[01:42:31]

Very happy that he got a 1000 yards. That was very nice to see. I was cheering super hard for that. Marshawn Lattimore kinda has a history of locking down and getting him kicked out of games. They like a lot about that.

[01:42:44]

They like to fight. They like to fight a lot. I think the stats are that, historically, Marshawn Lattimore limits him to, like, 3 catches per game and something like 47 yards per game. So that's that's good if Lattimore plays.

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Okay. Keys to the victory.

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Keys to the victory. Lattimore plays. Bring Carson Wentz with a shotgun. Well, he's he's in play today.

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Okay. But, I mean, you guys sat Jaden half the game.

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He's a Bucks specialist.

[01:43:11]

Yeah. He'll be back. Okay. Next up, Pitt in the NFC South. So the Bucks look like they were gonna maybe blow this, but it turns out the Falcons were gonna blow it on their own anyway.

[01:43:23]

Panthers 44, Falcons 38. Bryce Young was incredible. 5 touch 5 total touchdowns, 250 yards. Did you see he did the Steph Curry, look away? Yeah.

[01:43:34]

So he threw a touchdown pass. And before the pass was even caught, he turned around and started celebrating.

[01:43:39]

I like that we've reached a point in the Bryce Young reclamation where he's he's, like, stunting on people now. Yeah. Like, what a what a turnaround that's been literally in this game.

[01:43:47]

Yeah. He he had, so since he got benched, when he came back, he's had 20 total touchdowns, 6 interceptions, 2,000 and a 100 yards and 61% completion percentage. And Dave Canales said after the game, we've got our guy. And I'm happy for Bryce Young. I'm happy for the Panthers that this season was going in such a bad direction.

[01:44:09]

And Dave Dave Canales, coach of the year, should probably get some credit.

[01:44:12]

Yeah. So is is O'Connell still your coach of the year?

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Not after tonight. I think it's Dave Canales.

[01:44:18]

What about Dan Campbell?

[01:44:19]

Might be Jeff Holbrook.

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Mine might be Dan Campbell.

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Mine mine might be Jeff Holbrook.

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I just love how consistent he

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is. Yeah. He's a winner. Dan Campbell's a winner. Winner.

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But, yeah, The Panthers' arrows pointing up. And the Falcons, I don't fucking know where there are arrows pointing. Because I they're just the Falcons.

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Yeah. But I feel like Pinnick's is the guy.

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You you're ready to say it already?

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I think he's the guy. Already? I'm ready to say right now, I think he's the guy. Okay.

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Yeah. I I don't know. I I I need to see more I'm just they're just the Falcons.

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Drake London is the guy.

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How do you know? You need to win this they lose the 2 games in ridiculous fashion the last 2 weeks. They fought all the way back into the division. I they're just the Falcons.

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They are the Falcons.

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They're just the most frustrating organization to look at from afar.

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Yeah. But I I think they're overall, this season, it turned around a little bit. You got more exciting. You got a better glimpse of the future. You saw that Kirk Cousins is not the guy.

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Mhmm. And you can you can move forward.

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But that's even the Falcons. The fact that they did Kirk Cousins' for, signing and Michael Pinnick's drafting, we said at the time, was made no sense. It looks even dumber now because you could maybe if Kirk Cousins plays 2 years and brings Michael Bennix along and he gets to the playoffs with Kirk Cousins, you can tell yourself, hey. That was actually good in the long run. None of that happened, and you just wasted all that money and and took a pit and took Michael Bennix who I'm I'm not ready to say he's the guy.

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I just they're they're just the most frustrating organization. So do you think

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that it's gonna be any sort of possibility that Kirk Cousins plays next year for the falcons?

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No. I mean, why would you?

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If you're Kirk Cousins or if

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you're the Falcons? If you're the Falcons. The only explanation would be that the Achilles is, like, a 2 year recovery. But why would you why would you like, he probably wants to start. There's no reason to start him.

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You drafted Michael Peneks. You already went to him. He's the he is your guy now.

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Because weird stuff happens. I mean, the Falcons are a weird organization.

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They are very much a weird organization, but that would be insane if they were like, hey, Michael Penech. You're not our starter next year.

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Open open competition.

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That would be nuts.

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It would be crazy.

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No. I think I think they'll, they'll probably try to unload them somewhere, trade them. I don't know where. Maybe it's the Raiders.

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I guess the reason why I still kinda like the Falcons is because they've got good good very good players on offense. Yeah.

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They draft

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them on Knicks. Awesome. Drake London's awesome. Awesome. Michael Pinnick's, some are saying he looks like the guy.

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Kyle Pitts, whatever. Yeah. He's there. Yeah. Good offensive line.

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Yeah. But no. I I just the Falcons' arrows pointed, I don't know because of the Falcons is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Okay.

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Commanders, 23, Cowboys, 19. Marcus Mariota played the second half in this game, won this game with no time left, basically. Mhmm. That had to feel good.

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Yeah. It was great. Terry McLaren set the, commander's record, the franchise record for most touchdowns in the year with that last touchdown catch. I'm just very happy for Terry, and this season has just been like, 12 wins is unreal. Yeah.

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Never in a 1000000 years did I think 12 wins. And I was looking at the roster and how far this team has turned around in a very, very short amount of time, which is why anytime a coach tells you 4 years for a rebuild, they're full of shit. Yeah. Don't listen to that coach. We have 13 total pro bowlers this year.

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Mhmm. So that obviously includes the selections and then the alternates after that. Out of those 13, how many of those guys do you think were brought in under the Ron Rivera

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era? 1. 0. Oh. None of them.

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10 of them are brand new this year. 1st year with the team Wait.

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Who brought in Terry?

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Terry, I believe that was Jay Gruden. Okay. I think he drafted Terry.

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Okay.

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So, yeah, the turnaround has been just unreal, and I feel like this has been a dream season. I hope that Jaden's okay. They said that he had leg soreness after the game.

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Oh, I thought he was just being I thought he was just sitting on because it's like, this is kinda crazy. He was getting hit, like, a decent amount. He didn't look super sharp.

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Yeah. The concern me is the first half, our offensive line wasn't great. The center or backup center wasn't really able to handle Michael Parkins when or Mica Parsons when they hire they, lined him up right over top of him. JD got killed a little bit. His leg was sore.

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He said he would have played if it meant something. Okay. But it kinda did mean something.

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Yeah.

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And then he didn't play. And then Marcus looked pretty good.

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Are you bummed that you don't get to play the Eagles?

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I'm so bummed. I wanted the Eagles, but it's anyone, anytime, anywhere. That's what I say.

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Were you

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rooting for the Bears against the Packers or no?

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For the I was rooting for my friend, Big Cat. Yeah.

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He was being a good friend. I was

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being I know.

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You you should try it sometime.

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Simultaneous wins was great. Yeah.

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Yeah. It was very much. 5 seconds of each other.

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We had oh, we do we even mention we had the PM

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Oh, yeah. We all won a game today. That's pretty insane. I don't think that's ever happened.

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Yeah. That's awesome.

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Yeah. And all 5 of us it

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up and said it was the first time since 2017.

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Wow. And and but that would have been just 3.

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I don't know. That's 2017. I didn't I didn't do too much research. Someone just said 2017.

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Getting 5 teams. Next year, we gotta do that every single week or do the parlay.

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Money line parlay on them?

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That's great. Oh my god. I'd lose so much money.

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But it would've

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won a lot today.

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Would it have?

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Yeah. Bears are 10 point underdogs.

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Yeah. True. True. True.

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And, Max, I'll I'll honestly answer your question. I was rooting for the Bears. I was. I was doing it to support big cat. And, also, because Thank you.

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Theoretically

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Right. Right.

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Right.

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Theoretically, the Commanders could host the NFC championship game now

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Mhmm.

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In theory.

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And I actually you missed this part, Max, but PFT whispered to me at 1 point. He's like, hey. I want the Bears to win this game so that you can share all the secrets with Max on how to beat the Packers. Yeah.

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He said that.

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Shit, and how you said you won't do that anymore.

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Yep. Yeah. So now Sorry.

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Yeah. Because you

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you should try out being a good friend once in a while. Mhmm.

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By the way, Dan Campbell went for it on 4th down on a in a tie game with 30 seconds ago.

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Again, that's not

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Just saying.

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It's a different scenario.

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That's what that's what I was trying to find.

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What? Earlier when the segment got cut?

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Oh, now you gotta bring the segment back. Nope. Yeah. Max tried to no. You you gotta leave that in.

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I'll leave some of it in. Okay.

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I'm sure you'll

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we'll have another update about Dan Campbell's coaching errors.

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Probably. It wasn't an error. He he got it.

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Oh. Yeah. Okay.

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And it was a tie game with 30 seconds left?

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Tie game with 30 seconds.

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And did they win? Correct.

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And where was the ball?

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This is the whole yeah. Whatever. So is Nick Sirianni.

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I

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got a question for you guys about the commanders because I'm blinded by him. Like, I I again, I feel like this whole thing's been a dream because it's it's crazy from the owner to the head coach, to the quarterback, all this shit. I have a question for you guys. Yeah. Are the commanders a likable team?

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Yes. Yeah. Because

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I think they're

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a likable team. Different question that Hank was gonna have a hard time answering. Okay.

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Ask them. I think I

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think the Commanders are likable team. I I I root I root for them.

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I do think they're a likable team. Too much. He smiles off. Bother me a little bit. But I think they're a likable team.

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I like Dan Quinn. Terry McLaren, I like I like Brian Robinson. It it's similar to the Lions. Luvoo. I mean, that's a guy.

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Luvoo. Luvoo is awesome.

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Yeah. They've obviously won they've won Yeah. They've won Super Bowl, so it's a little different than the Lions, but it's like teams that are have been bad for a long time. Yeah. No.

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They're likable. It's you root for them.

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Because I I I have no further reference as to whether I guess the only thing I could point to is that we're playing in the Sunday night game, which means that somebody wants

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an incredible season. That that's the Sunday game. I thought you were gonna ask a very different question.

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Okay. Ask the question I was gonna ask.

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Should I ask it to you or Hank?

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Ask it to Hank.

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Okay. Hank.

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To him first. I asked him first.

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Do you do you think the Washington commanders are good? No. Hank turned

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to me

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in the middle of the Cowboys Commanders game. He goes, they fucking

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stink. Well, I was thinking about the Saints game too.

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I was like, I'm last few games

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we've been watching, like, they have been struggling Yeah. Against really bad teams.

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Here's the here's

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the thing about the Commanders, though. We're not that good, but Jaden Daniels finds a way to do things at the end of games. And today was Mariota. But if you look at since the Hail Mary game, we've scored, like, a 1000000 times in the last minute minute and a half of games. Yeah.

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And

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just Max, please

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check that. Craziest innings. Max, I think it was a 1000000 times that we scored. The Commanders

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Less than a 1000000.

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I honestly don't think that the Commanders are a great football team. We might not even be very good. But But you're in the playoffs. You're right. Yeah.

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You know what we are? Is we're winners. Yeah. Yeah. And we figure out ways to

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That's true. We're figuring out ways Dan Quinn's a winner. We're we figure out ways he he was

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a Super Bowl winning at 1 time head coach. Yes. That's fast. Something happens at the end of games where time slows down for usually Jaden, in this case, Marcus, and it just ends up working out somehow. I don't know how they do it.

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I don't think that they're a very good team, but they're so fun

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to watch. Against bad teams.

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Yeah. Bad teams. Well, the Eagles the Eagles are a good team.

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True. Well, they're playing

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Yeah. Kenny Pickett. Yeah. Eagles are a good team.

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We'll see what's happening. I'll be I'll be what was

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the score when Jalen Hurst went out?

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Does Kenny Pickett play defense?

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That's true. Good point.

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Is the Eagles' defense good?

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That's a good point. Okay. That's a

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good point.

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But they could've if Jalen Hurts go ahead, Max.

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No. Commander's he's hacked. Find Dan Campbell's stats.

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Yeah. I already found I I found the 1 and

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The 1 you're exactly what you're saying?

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No. I was wrong. It was by the way, it was the 1 I was exactly what I was saying, but I got mixed up and whatever. What? I got nerve I got nervous.

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And when I went to say the 1 that I was actually saying, I was like, oh, that was actually a good idea, but I didn't realize it was tied when he went for it on Friday.

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Yeah. Mhmm.

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Yeah. Max, do you think the Commanders are good?

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Yeah. No. I think they're

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Be honest, Max.

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I think they're

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I mean, they're definitely they're a playoffs team.

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I think I think that they could beat the Bucks. Mhmm.

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I like Yes. I would agree. The Bucks

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I think they're good enough is. Yeah. I think they're good enough to win a to win a playoff game.

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Here's the thing.

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I don't think there's anywhere near Super Bowl contenders.

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I think I think that they're 1 of 2 things is gonna happen against the Bucks. 1, we're going to win in the last, like, 45 seconds of the game. Some crazy shit's gonna happen. Todd Bowles will probably screw something up in terms of a time out or, like, a go forward strategy because he's no Dan Campbell. And then we somehow figure out a way to win a game that we were losing by 17 points in the first half.

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That's option number 1. Option number 2 is we lose by, like, 25 points. Because we're not we're not good, but we win, and we're fun. Wait.

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Would you win in option 1, you said?

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Yeah. Option 1 is we win.

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So commander's money line or Bucks alt alternate spread?

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Yeah. That would not be a bad bet. I might have to do that. But I love this team.

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Equal amounts. I love this team.

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Yeah. Mike McCarthy, they asked him after the game what he thought about his future. Did you hear his quote? No. He said, I don't like to talk about myself, but I'll just be clear.

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I'm a winner. I know how to win.

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He Max?

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He said I I'm actually gonna

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Mike McCarthy is a winner. He said

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I won a Super Bowl in this building as a matter of

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fact.

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I'm actually going to compliment the Steelers don't really or the Commanders don't really get blown out of games. No. So, like, I I I, like, don't agree with that. I think it's gonna be a Well, the Bucks game.

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The Bucks blew us out. But week 1

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Week 1. Ravens.

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Can

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Oh, no. That was Oh, yeah. Those? Yeah. They lost by 1 score.

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They lost by each 7 points. Yeah. So, like, I don't think that that's necessarily I I feel like that would be going out on a limb to say that that it's gonna be a blowout or the Commanders win.

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I just think that there's a good chance that the Bucks get up on an early lead against us. And then if, you know, a couple things don't break our way, then it's gonna be pretty ugly in the second half. But there's an equally good chance where we're losing by 17, and we end up winning by 2.

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I don't think like, I think it's gonna be a competitive game. I don't know necessarily who's going to win. I think the Commanders can win that game.

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Yeah.

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There was a great moment in this game. It reminded me a lot of, the Bears' Hail Mary where the quarterback started celebrating and waving goodbye to the crowd. Malik Hooker on 4th down, put his hand up to be like, we got this stop against Marcus Mariota as Marcus Mariota still had

[01:56:33]

the ball

[01:56:34]

and was running, like, 30 yards downfield. That was a great screenshot to look at.

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We also had a cheerleader get absolute domed by a kickoff. That should count as a point. She got smoked. Yeah. That should count as a point.

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Disagree. Why? It's be funny.

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I think hitting women shouldn't count as a point.

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I didn't say I didn't say women. I said cheerleader.

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True. There are men.

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I never said I never said the gender of the cheerleader. Dallas Cowboys historically have Could be. Could be. You don't know. You don't know.

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Cheerleaders come in all shapes and sizes.

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Yeah. That was that was a crazy, crazy kick. That was, that it was Aubrey. Right?

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Yeah.

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And doesn't Evan McPherson or is it the other Bengals kicker that does?

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Evan McPherson, I think, has a girl his girlfriend or fiance's on.

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On the cap, but that was not her Yeah.

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That got hit. I don't think so.

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But, yeah, that was that was crazy. It was like a bullet.

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Yeah. Yeah. And then they zoomed in on her.

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She wore that like a champ.

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She did. She did.

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Shout out Tresway. Ask her if she was okay. Great guy.

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That is awesome. Great job, Tres.

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Great job, Tres.

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Are are you anything else in this game?

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No. I think that Ready

[01:57:35]

for the offs.

[01:57:35]

I think that I'm ready for the offs. This much like the Bronco season, this whole season was a win no matter what happened. Definitely. Obviously, I wanna win in the playoffs. But, yeah, this is it's been a great year.

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What map out, a road. Okay. Here's the road. Because I know you've done it in your head. Yeah.

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We You might as well do it for for us.

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Okay. So we beat the Bucks. K. Then, the Packers beat the Eagles, which would break my heart because I wanna see I wanna play against the Eagles at some point.

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That would legit break my heart because I would have robbed of getting to cheer for the Eagles' demise.

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So that but that's part of the road. Part of the road is we Yeah. Somehow take over home field advantage.

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Mhmm.

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Alright. So that happens. And then What

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was what was that face?

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There's a way that you said that. I I feel like there's there's gonna be a part of you rooting for the packers.

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Absolutely not, Max. I can be more clear. You need to end the packers, and then I'll root against you. I am 110% eagles on Saturday

[01:58:37]

or Sunday. You and Hank.

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It's it couldn't be more clear. If the if the packers beat you if the packers beat you and I I'm not even allowed to make fun of you for losing, that's that's the worst

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Y'all make fun of me.

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No. I no. Because you should be like, you the packers just won the combine.

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Sorry. Sorry. Here's the path. Okay? We beat the bucks, then we've got the packers beating the eagles.

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K. Then we have, the I'm gonna say the Vikings beating the Rams. And then you've got the the ramp sorry.

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So all the all the All upsets. Yeah. 5, 6, 7.

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And then you've got the Lions. They would have to play the Packers. The Packers beat the Lions. You beat the vikings? Beat the we beat the vikings.

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Okay.

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That's possible. That's It's possible.

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This is not crazy.

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And then we beat the packers in the NFC championship game at home. Cinderella. Cinderella story. We we we Who do you

[01:59:36]

play the Super Bowl?

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Then the Super Bowl. We play

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Broncos. Yeah. Houston, Texas. Yeah.

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We play the Texas in the Super Bowl at they changed the kickoff time to 3:30.

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Oh, nice.

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And then we, yeah, we take out the Texas. That's huge. No. There's probably no chance. But No.

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That's a path. I'm just I'm just happy. I'm just happy

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with that. NFC, they're like, kind of is a path.

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They it's wide open.

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I think that, like, that doesn't sound that crazy what you just said.

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Would it be crazy to say that the Packers beat the Eagles? No. Not crazy. Would it be crazy to say that the the Vikings beat the Rams? No.

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No. Not crazy. Would it be crazy to say that the Packers beat the Lions? No. Maybe.

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No. I don't think so.

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Not that crazy. Not that playoffs.

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You don't think

[02:00:17]

he's first Russ?

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I mean, maybe if Dan Campbell gets stopped on 4th and 1 in that in that game that it just happened.

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That's a good point.

[02:00:25]

Has he ever done that?

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No. Yep. It was a tie game. Went for it on 4th and 1. Crazy.

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So there's there's a path. However remote it might be, there's a path. It's the playoffs. Memes is frustrated about something. God knows.

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Well, Memes just is such a different fan that he thinks that, like, the Jets

[02:00:39]

are winning too down on yourself. Mark Sanchez done it as a rookie. Jaden Daniels is a lot better.

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That's true.

[02:00:45]

You're going to Tampa, you beat Tampa.

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Start to talk like Gruden right now.

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Daniel. Why why why are you trying Pittsburgh?

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Then you go up to Detroit.

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Rank your favorite memes voices. Mine is number 1 Hank Hill. I didn't know you had that in. That

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was good.

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That was great.

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And then 2, we got we got Pittsburgh. We got Gruden memes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. No. Listen.

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Get your confidence.

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It's it's a possibility. It's a I I am confident that we can beat the Bucks. There's definitely a way that we we beat the Bucks, but there's a lot of good teams in the NFC.

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I just But they all have flaws.

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I just really

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They all have flaws.

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That's the

[02:01:19]

that's the biggest thing. They all have flaws. Yeah. I know you really wanted the Eagles. I I'm sorry for you.

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Pisses me off.

[02:01:24]

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The Rams were actually pretty live in this game. They had a chance to win it at the end, and they they had, like, a 4th and 3 on the 10 yard line with 30 seconds left. So Jimmy g still got it a little bit. So what was Sean McVay thinking going

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in this week? Did he just didn't think it was important to have to avoid the Lions or the Vikings at all?

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Yeah. No. He was just like, I I wanna rest my guys. It's just kind of a weird move, though, isn't it? I don't I I think I think he's been there, done that, play whoever you play.

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Yeah. Because, I mean, ultimately, who would you rather play in the playoffs? The Commanders or maybe the Lions?

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Yeah. I think he just wanted to I think he wanna get healthy because he's got a old quarterback.

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So this is what concerns me about that move is that I feel like Sean McVay knows something.

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Yeah. No. I'm nervous about the Rams now, especially watching the Vikings play against the Lions. I'm I'm I'm back to nervous about my pinky.

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Yeah. They weren't good today, and some of that has to do with Jimmy G, a quarterback.

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But But they almost won the game.

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Almost won the game. Yeah. In the Geno incentives game, which he hit all 3 of them,

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by the way.

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Oh, easily. He got $6,000,000 in incentive stay. Good for Geno. But the fact that Sean McVay did not care about winning this game makes me think that the Rams are gonna be very dangerous.

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Yeah. I I'd agree.

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Because you if you were desperate, if you were if you had doubts in your team, you'd be like, we need every edge we can get. Yep. Let's go out there, win this game, and try to avoid a great team from the north.

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I guess you also don't I mean, you you don't know how the other games are gonna go, although they are had already played.

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No. If if they had won

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. They would be the, 3 seed.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I was saying you didn't know I I like, going before the game, if the Packers had won and the Commanders had lost, it would have been the Packers. So, you know and you're you're setting a plan for going forward probably days before being like, this is what we're gonna do. Yeah. So you're just not concerned at all.

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Yes.

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That's what makes me concerned about the Rams.

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Yeah. And then it's for the Seahawks year 1 under Mike McDonald. I it wasn't terrible. No. I mean They won 10 games.

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It was very frustrating. It's extremely frustrating.

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Felt like you could have won at least 2 or 3 more.

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They had that that that I mean, the fact that the Seahawks, they kind of have a similar setup with the Bengals. They look back. They lost to the Giants. Yeah. Like, how did that happen?

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The yeah. The Colts and the Seahawks lost to the Giants.

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Like, how do you let how do you how do you let that happen? And, so because, like, other than that, they lost to teams that were, you know but and then they lost the Lions. Understandable. They lost the 49ers before the everyone got injured. Understandable.

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They lost the Bills and the Rams, the Packers and the Vikings. Those are all not terrible losses. So if you look at the Seahawks season, it really just comes down to you don't lose that Giants game. You're in the playoffs. You're 1 in Mike Mike McDonald.

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And, so I I don't know. I feel like arrow pointing slightly up for the start.

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You're you're happy overall, but you're you're also very frustrated.

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Yes. Okay. So Rams because I think

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they would when they moved on from Pete Carroll, they, at the very least, wanted a coach that would attempt to run the

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ball Yeah.

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In which they did a little bit today. But Mike McDonald, he failed that part of the test year 1.

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How did the the Rams see I mean, listen. Sean McVay, Kevin O'Connell, they know each other. Those guys know each other. Mhmm. That it's funny too because that was kind of the launching off point for the Rams season.

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Remember, that was, early on in the season. They were 2 and 4. And it's like, if they don't win this game, they're pretty much dead Mhmm. Which turned out to be true. They needed to win that game.

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And they won that game. It was a Thursday night game, and Stafford carved up the, the the Vikings defense. I think that was the game that everyone came back right before you know, like, it was like, we didn't we didn't know if Puka was gonna play or not, and then he's he played right like, it was announced right before, and they carved him up. It's gonna be interesting matchup. Yeah.

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Interesting matchup.

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I think I like the Rams.

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Yeah. I probably like the Rams too. Alright. Cardinals, 47, 40 niners, 24. You got anything on this game?

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Nope. Josh Dobbs played. He did play? Yep. Kyler looked okay?

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Yep. Trey McBride did get a touchdown or no?

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Trey McBride did get a touch all he does

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is score touchdowns.

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Yes. And he also had an awesome play where he carried Fred Warner like a backpack.

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Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Season from hell for the 40 niners over.

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1611. So what do you do if you're the 49ers?

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You see how bad Brock Purdey's hurt, and then you go from there.

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And Christian McCaffrey?

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Walls?

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He'll be back. Okay. Okay.

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What do you what about Debo? What do you do with Debo? Cut. You cut your wide back? I don't know if

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I don't know if cut is I don't know what his, contract is. I'd say you move on from Debo.

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You find a way move on. Find a way to move on from that contract.

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Yes. Yeah. That 1 you move on.

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You get Ayuk back next year.

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Ayuk comes back. Deebo's a little older. Also felt like there was times where Kyle Shanahan tried to spam Deebo, so maybe he's just gonna it might be better for Kyle Shanahan to not have Deebo in his life.

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Because he's always thinking I want more Deebo. What if I use Deebo for this play?

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Yeah. Like, this run, this sweep, what if I Deebo'd it?

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You'll get Trent Williams back. Yeah. That'll be good. Yeah. Fred Warner's still good.

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Yeah. I think the 40 niners will be a a buy on team next year.

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Yeah.

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Or just like, you know, they they had a bad year. They had a season from hell. They they get to rest up. They don't have to play deep into to January. Kittle's gonna be fresh?

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Kittle's gonna be fresh. They'll get a higher draft pick. They'll be fine. John Lynch is a very good GM. Kyle Shand's a very good coach.

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I just I don't like that the 40 niners were such a bummer to watch because say what you want about them in the past, they've always been fun. Yeah. And they were not fun this year.

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But they definitely have to they I I think their roster is, like, on the older side that they have to figure make some hard decisions and kinda reset, but it can be done very quickly.

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Look at the Bills.

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And what do what do the Cardinals do?

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Hope next year's different. Okay. I don't really know. I I'm not the biggest Kyler guy.

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I think they should keep him around. I think that Kyler you you stay rolling with Kyler for a little bit because at least they have like, I know what the cardinals are in my head. And it's Kyler Murray scampering around, having 2 games where he looks awesome, a couple games where he looks just awful, and then that's all the mental headspace you have to have on the cardinals.

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Kyler's not a confetti quarterback. Oh. Can you close your eyes and see confetti coming out coming down on Kyler?

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No. Maybe on the game show or something.

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Because, like, think about it. Like, there's so much confetti then you're like, where'd Kyler go? Can't find him.

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Gets lost in it. Yeah.

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In the esports Like a dog going into, leaf pile.

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I love those videos of the dogs going into

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the snow.

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Like, you could actually measure snow by taking Kyler outside and by just tossing him.

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I watched a video where a dog there was a GoPro, attached to the dog, and he ran from the house. It looked like an Italian villa or something. He ran from the house all the way down these, like, windy rocks and jumped into the ocean, probably the Mediterranean.

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Yeah. That was a good 1.

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And it was, like, 2 and a half minutes long. It's like, that dog has the best life of all time.

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That dog was all gas, no brakes.

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Yeah. And so that's what we do with the cardinal season. Get a GoPro, move to Italy. Put on Kyler. And just run down to the water every single day.

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Yeah. Pretty good. Good plan. Okay. So last 2 games.

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You wanna do Eagles Giants?

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We can skip it.

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Eagles 20, Giants 13. Well, we I I guess the only question I'd have about Eagles Giants is is Jalen Hurts out of concussion protocol? Nope. Uh-oh. So what does that mean?

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You're you're less than 7 days away from your 1st round playoff game.

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He went through a walk through yesterday. So And the end of the line for Eagles Packers just moved to full point. To where? 4a half.

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Okay.

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Okay. So that means he's probably gonna play?

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Or it means someone bet a lot of money on the Eagles.

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Probably the the former. That he's gonna play? I I get former and latter mix.

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I do too. Yeah. Yeah. Ladder is the most recent 1.

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Yep. Probably the latter.

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So you

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think somebody bet a lot money on the Eagles?

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Not that he can cleared concussion protocol. Max does not

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think that gonna, like, say that he cleared concussion protocol in, like, 10:45.

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Right. But do you think he will clear concussion protocol?

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Yes. In my heart of hearts.

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Do you wish Saquon had played? No.

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Because he's healthy, and the offensive line is healthy. And you saw a lot of people get injured today.

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On the Eagles?

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No. On other playoff teams.

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What about Tanner McKee?

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Future? Great. He's the QB 2 of the future. He's so good.

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That's good. You got that figured out?

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Yep. He's so good.

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So Kenny and then Tanner McKee for

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the playoffs.

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So good. Tanner Rickey is so good.

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Yeah. I hope Jalen Hurts clears concussion protocol.

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Same. Same. Well, no. I I wanna take that back. I hope that he clears it whenever it's good for his body and his brain and his mind to clear it.

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Not a second earlier.

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Me too. Agreed. I hope Jalen hurts clears concussion protocol, but not until, like, Friday because I'd like to see Max's brain just be like, what does this mean?

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See, that's how there's a part of you like, if you're really rooting against the packers this weekend, you wouldn't say that.

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Why? Because Wednesday. Wednesday. Wednesday.

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Wednesday. Full week Wednesday. Would want them to have

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a I'd like at least 2 more days of him not clearing concussion protocol. I'd like at least 1 more report where they say he has not cleared concussion.

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You want 1 more show for me to be nervous about

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the sweat of concussion protocol.

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Yeah. I want you

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to become an expert in concussion protocol at some point this week because you're so nervous.

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If Jalen Hurst doesn't clear concussion protocol, will you give us permission to concuss you and put you in protocol?

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I'm I am I already have a history of concussion.

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Okay. So we won't do that. We will not do that.

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I think we should just give Max the concussion test before every show. Yeah.

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That would be a good idea. Baseline. Giants can what what even pick do they have now? 4th? They still might get Shador.

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They could turn. 2 or 3.

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3rd. They could yeah.

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They could

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They could get Shador.

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They could get Ken Ward. Yeah. And I don't know if they're gonna bring back Dable. It's not things seem to be trending towards not.

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Yeah.

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And, again, we talk about when they had Ben McAdoo and Mara said that they would not fire Ben McAdoo. Then 2 weeks later, they fired Ben McAdoo.

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Yeah.

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Did the same thing with Joe Judge. This season, they said they're not gonna fire Brian Daboll. It's not necessarily a good thing to get a vote of confidence from mister Mara.

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Yes. From mister Mara.

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So, if they do fire Daboll, what about this plan,

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Sark? And then

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you just wait for Arch. You you do 1 season of tanking. They have a bet if you look at the schedule that the Giants have to play next year, not easy. Yeah. They have to play the AFC North.

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Well, that's because they're also the the Giants.

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Yeah. That's true. But they also have to play the AFC West.

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Okay.

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So a lot of good teams. And then so that's 6 playoff teams right there

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between

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those 2 divisions.

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Are we sure Arch is worth taking for?

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Then you tank a little bit. You should you should tank for somebody. Agreed. If Arch Manning is not worth tanking for if you're the Giants, then who is? I don't know.

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I'm just asking the question. Because if Arch Manning was worth tanking for, I would I would have thought Arch Manning would be playing in the playoffs.

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Right now? Yeah. Well, it's because Sark is keeping him fresh because he's gonna become the Giants coach Yeah. Then Tank and then draft Arch.

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Because I'm also kinda done watching Quinn Ewers.

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Mhmm.

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I'm not.

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I I am. I'm done watching Quinn Ewers. I'd rather watch Arch.

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But if you're if you're a Giants fan, that that should get your blood going a little bit. Right? Like, just picturing a Manning jersey.

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Yeah. Yeah. Wait. What does it what does it have, right now? It has them taking Travis Hunter.

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Okay. Abdul Carter to the jets. Way to go. Kelvin Banks, offensive tackle. I like that.

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Ash and Jenny for sure is gonna be a cowboy. That is the most cowboys pick ever. Oh my god. He's gonna run for, like, 1500 yards, and they're gonna go to the playoffs. So, like, everything's fixed.

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That is the most cowboys thing ever. Oh, McMillan is a stud from Arizona.

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Love that.

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That would be that would be nice.

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Just what we need. Yeah.

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Okay. Last game, bears, 24, packers 22. Okay. I say, we beat the packers. That's what we do.

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Packer specialists.

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That's what we do. We beat the packers. Fake punt or not fake punt. The the the fake punt catch was awesome.

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That was a great play.

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The Keenan Allen interception, awesome. So funny. That was a very funny play. Almost bears the fuck out of this game with the fumble late. And then we the Packers, I don't know what they were doing on defense at the end of the game, but that's just what that's just the difference between good organizations and bad organizations.

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Caleb bears find ways to win these games.

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Caleb got clothesline so hard on that final drive.

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Yeah. Yeah. He got yeah. He got horse collar tackled. But, yeah, Caleb made it through through a ball perfectly to DJ Moore, Cairo Santos revenge.

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Fun fact for you, the bears and the packers in the vaunted NFC North, both 15. And, the packers need a block field goal to win that 1 game. I can't remember who it was against because the bears own

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the pack. In 2025, the Packers have never beaten the Chicago Bears.

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Listen. I know we dropped, like, 2 spots, maybe 3 spots in the draft order. I was saying it before. My, my oldest is, 5a half. He's halfway through kindergarten.

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He has never been alive for the Bears to beat the Packers. So this was kinda nice. Yeah. It's nice to beat the Packers.

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I told you you could do this, and you were you were being a negative Nelly.

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Well, I mean, I we needed a lot of things to go right, including, you know, to to completely fake them out with that punt return. Mhmm. We need Jordan Love to go out. We needed, the packers to to play the dumbest defense I've ever seen. But I'm happy for Caleb Williams to end on a high note.

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Feels good. A lot of things to to work on. The organization is not in a good place,

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but we own the packers. Trending up or trending down?

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Trending down. Trending very far down.

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That should make the packers feel awful. Yeah. That even after you beat them, you're like, yeah. Here we're not in a good spot.

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Here's the thing. I know Packers fans, like, will tell themselves, well, we just screwed you out of a couple couple picks, you know, in the draft. It bothers Packers fans to no end because they love beating the bears. And they love beating the bears all the time. And we haven't beaten them since 2018, and we haven't won a road Sunday game in 20 you know, in 3 years.

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We're the packers daddy.

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Is this, like, an Ohio state situation where even if they win the Super Bowl, like, it's kind of a lost season because they didn't beat the bears?

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I'd rather them not win the Super Bowl. I'll say that right now. I do not want the packers to win the Super Bowl, but good question, Hank. We are the packers daddy, though. We own them.

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Could this be a moment where, you know, for the last 5 years, all you've wanted is

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to beat the packers, but at what cost? No. I mean, I've all I've just wanted them to be good. Yeah. And they're not good.

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But we beat the packers. So and it's great that it happened at the last game of the season, so I can just be like, hey. We we're on a we're on a winning streak. I will do a clock, you know, somewhere in the summer where it's, like, it's been 200 and whatever 50 days.

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You You gotta you gotta hope that you're scheduling for super late in the season Yeah.

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So you can Or not. Let's not even schedule next year.

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Yeah.

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Let's just we'll we'll do it the year after.

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What if you just destroyed the entire franchise? Yeah.

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It bothers it bothers the packers. They lost the bears. I love it. I fucking love it. So, Caleb's rookie season, his numbers he he leads the Chicago bears franchise history in total yards.

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So he did that in 1 year.

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Also says

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I mean, it's we have never had a quarterback, Hank. That's how it's possible.

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Wait. Say that stat again.

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He leads he has the most total yards of rushing and receive or passing, in Bears franchise history in 1 season. That's pretty good. 400030. I think Jay had, like, 4,000 and, I don't know, 5 or something 1 year. Is he the guy?

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We're working on it.

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Wait. So 1 year all time? All time for 1 season. For 1 season. Oh, okay.

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I thought you were thinking about

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For 1 season. Yeah. Yeah.

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For all time. 1 season. Yeah. And he ended with, you know, 35100. And now if you told me before the season that he had 35 100 yards and, 20 touchdowns and 6 interceptions, I would have been like, holy shit.

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We're in the playoffs. Didn't go that way. Didn't go the way I thought it would. Lot to work on. Caleb's got a lot to work on.

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The bears have a lot to work on. I don't. I have more confidence in Caleb working on the things than the Bears working on the things. Because everything that I've read and heard, the Bears are going to hire Brian Flores. They're probably not even gonna interview Ben Johnson.

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Mike Vrabel's gonna be the Patriots head coach. Ryan Pohl's gonna keep his job, and that's gonna be an awkward I don't know what's gonna happen where he's got 1 year. And then the new coach is, like, hey, this guy and whatever. Another time, another day, the the Bears beat the Packers. We own the Packers.

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I have some advice for the, for the McCasky family.

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You gotta at least Don't swear.

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Okay. To dearest McCasky family, I hope this missive finds you well. Yeah.

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By the way, happy birthday to Virginia, a 102 years old.

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Happy birthday to Virginia. Sweet Virginia. Very happy to have you around for hopefully many more No. Trips around the sun. Yeah.

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Where's Virginia? Yeah. This is to Virginia.

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No. I couldn't I I reflexively said no when you said hope to have you around for many more I should have said that.

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We hope

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Happy birthday.

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We we're glad you're not dead. I'm glad you're not dead.

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No. I I am. Oh, okay.

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I'm glad you're

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not dead. Again, happy birthday, Virginia.

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And and miss Virginia excuse me. Miss missus McCaskkey? Yeah. Wait. Is it a missus or is it a miss?

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Is there a mister McCaskey?

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No. I mean, her her husband died, like, long

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Oh, she's saying

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What did you say, Hank?

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Wood? Yeah.

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Try to be nice. Happy birthday.

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She got

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a lot of money? Yeah.

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Okay. Anyways, mister

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McCasky. Go back to it. Yeah.

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You have to at least pretend to interview Ben Johnson.

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Yeah. You have to She's not she Well, tell me You put address this to George.

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Mister McCasky.

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George. Her her her son.

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Her son.

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Her full grown adult son.

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Her 7 year old son.

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Who doesn't swear? Yes.

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Mister McCaskill, you have to at least pretend to interview Benjie. Yes. Just at the very minimum, get get him on a Zoom call.

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Yes.

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And be and then you can say, we didn't think that he his vision for the future of this offense aligned with Chicago Bears values. Yes. But you can't just hire Brian Flores because Ryan Pohl says this is my buddy.

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Yes. What are you laughing about back there?

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I just looked at a picture of her where she looks so old, and then underneath it, it

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said 1999. Yeah.

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Yeah. Like, that's insane.

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When she that's when she fired her other idiot son.

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What is that guy doing now?

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Michael McCasky. Wait. I think he might have

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died. Oh.

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No. I'm thinking of someone else. Yes. He didn't die. He died.

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No. He died. He died. But, yeah, they're a mess. I'm not gonna think about it today.

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Today is about beating the Packers. Listen.

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You have to at least pretend to interview Ben Johnson. And, yes, give Brian Flores an interview. But, also, let's not forget about the 40th anniversary of your vaunted 1985 Chicago Bears team. And what better way to move forward as a franchise than by honoring that season and by bringing back a small piece of it, dual head coaches, Jeff Fisher and Ron Rivera.

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That would be fun. She was 62 years old when that happened.

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She was old She's so old.

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When the Chicago Bears won the Super Bowl, she was old enough to be confused by the rap in the Super Bowl shuffle.

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Yes.

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Probably offended.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, this isn't music.

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No. Seriously, happy birthday. I I I don't think she's doing like, she's a sweet old lady, and it it's not her fault anymore. I mean, I guess it kinda is because she hired her son and whatever. It's today is about beating the Packers.

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Nice mom. Mhmm.

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Today is about beating the Packers. Great mom. Well, she fired 1 of her sons. Smart move. Today's about beating the Packers.

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We beat the packers. We are the packers daddy. Packers fans, you're o and 1 in the last 1. Max, I'm gonna give you the blueprint on how to beat the packers.

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Hell, yeah.

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Yes. Thank you.

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We're back. We're back. I'm gonna do it.

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Are the Packers better with Malik Willis at quarterback?

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Yes. Jordan Love just throws off his back foot. Yeah. That's all he does.

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He's really good at it.

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He is good at it. I do. Is Christian Watson

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hurt? Christian Watson, it looks like he's out. Jordan Love is out.

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Actually significant. Like, that that does suck for the Packers because he is their field stretcher.

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And I do think that when Malik Willis gets in the game, Lafleur gets more invested in the coaching. Yeah.

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Where

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he's like, I really have to get in my bag. And he he calls more creative shit, does things a little bit more unorthodox. They're more fun to watch, I think, when Willis is playing.

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Yeah. By the way, did you guys I I I think I did mention this, but, the the the Bears have the same division record as the Packers.

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1 in 5.

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1 in 5. And I think, technically, in division, they get the tie breaker on head to head point differential because we beat them by 2 and they beat us by 1. No. It's big. So So this season So on aggregate, yeah, that that's that's correct.

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We beat them by 2 and they beat us by 1. So yeah. So, like, going up in the packers in the NFC North.

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Yeah. On college football division rules Yes. You finished in 3rd place in the

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division. Correct.

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Packers finished in

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1st place. Congrats. Anyone could beat up on all the other teams. Yeah. In the big north.