
Super Wild Card Weekend, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders Huge Win, Bills And Ravens Roll And Who's Back Of The Week
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- 13 Jan 2025
Super Wild Card Weekend and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes. (00:00:00-00:07:15)
We then Recap every game from the weekend
Texans 32, Chargers 12 (00:07:15-00:35:03)
Ravens 28, Steelers 14 (00:35:03-00:53:17)
Bills 31, Broncos 7 (00:53:17-01:15:21)
Eagles 22, Packers 10 (01:15:21-01:34:32)
Commanders 23, Bucs 20 (01:34:32-02:01:20)
We then talk MNF (02:01:20-02:07:00), Texas vs Ohio State (02:07:00-02:16:31) and finish with who's back of the week (02:16:31-02:31:58).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
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What? Some spread. We start in Houston where qb just tin man Herbert showed no heart and had way more ooze than ahs in this 1. It's early January, so the Stroud boys stood back and stood by until CJ found Lord and Xavier Hutchinson for a huge gain off a fumbled snap. And just like that, these Texans were storming the defense.
The game broke open when Herbert was picked off by safety Eric Curry who made samosa his playing time and didn't stop until he was Indian end zone and proved the chargers are a non factor come playoff time. Texans 32, chargers in a stinky cloud 12.
We head down to Baltimore, Maryland where the new look Ravens defense and Dean Black Eyed Peas said, let's get La Martin. Let's get La Martin in here. Hey. Hey. As he connected with Rashad of Love with tequila Bateman, and he was very easy to score with.
Russell Sprouts Wilson had another performance that was very hard to digest, and all the kids at home hated it. But George w Bush Pickens is Baghdad in again. But the Baltimore offense was committing war crimes with a ground invasion as Derrick Henry Kissinger, carpet bombed the Steelers for another Pittsburgh playoff loss. Ravens 28. The Steelers 14.
On the Sunday to Western New York where the Broncos had bills saying, Troy Vey as Franklin caught the 1st score of the game to put Denver up early, but they forgot about 17 as quarterback Josh Ellen went against the went against d that was generous to him, telling his team, let's be in the game, and made the Broncos look like the interns the way he abused them. The game broke open when the offense dropped their Johnson on the table and challenged the Broncos to tie that. Ultimately, the Broncos shouldn't hold their heads down as they'll be doing bow tricks on it for the quarterback of the future. The Bills 31, Broncos 7, and no 1 circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. We head over to Philadelphia where Max was on the scene.
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At least the first 5 games in the books, we got a lot to talk about, boys. We had some duds, and then we had a thriller on Sunday night and PFT's commander. So we're gonna we're gonna go in chronological order all the way back to Saturday, which is always hard because your brain's like, oh, shit. The Texans and chargers did happen. Yeah.
So we have Texans 32, chargers 12. I'd like to put my hand up real quick and say that I wanna apologize to the Houston Texans because I was down on them, and I think rightfully so at points in the season, and their offense rightfully so. That Texans defense, holy shit. Did they bring it on Saturday? They were so goddamn good.
And not only were they so good, I thought that game was decided by the fact that the chargers came out, like, basically a perfect start. The chargers go down the field, kick a field goal, get the fumble on the very next play. And if the Texans defense doesn't play their balls off to start the game, if they give up a touchdown on the first drive, if they give up a touchdown after the fumble, that game could look totally different. But, essentially, the Texas defense played so well early that they let CJ Stroud in that offense find a rhythm to a point where they were able to to to win that game. So, like, that was just that the Texas defense was just so good.
They were good. They're all the quarterbacks were good, especially Derek Stingley. Oh, yeah. Stingley was a problem. Will Anderson was very, very good too.
Yep. We have slept on the Texans defense.
Yeah. And I I I think it's still.
I think it's been under the assumption that they're not a great team. Like, overall, when we've been talking about them, we haven't been talking about them like they're a very good team because they're they haven't blown out bad teams. They've played in close games all year long. They haven't really shown us flashes on offense, but their defense has been good. And their defense was very good against the chargers who they were the team that was supposed to have the suffocating defense going into it.
And then if you go up, if you dominate the first part of the game and you go up 6 to nothing on 2 field goals, that when we talked about, like, if you go up, if you kick a field goal to go up 6 points in a game, it feels like the other team always comes down and scores again. It felt like you were you were losing the game having only gotten 6 points out of those those 2 incredible drives.
Yeah. We were watching it being like, if you're a chargers fan, you have to feel very uneasy right now because you have had every lucky bounce to start this game, and everything's gone your way and you're only up 6 nothing. And then the game completely switched on the fumbled snap that CJ Stroud had, scrambles out of the pocket, makes an incredible play, hits a bomb down the field, like, 34 yards.
That was like that play that Ben Johnson tried to get Jared Goff to run. Yeah. The way that he said, can you intentionally fumble it? Because it throws the whole defense off. They they get off what their normal schedule is and their routine is.
Right. And then it can open stuff up. This was not intentional. This is a mistake, but it opened everything up downfield. And then all of a sudden, yeah, like you're saying, it's the whole offense looked different.
Right. And that was the end of the half, and if they get if they get a if that ends up being a fumble or, like, CJ Sharp falls on the ball, the chargers get the ball back. They can maybe drive. They're up 6 nothing. They go into halftime instead.
That, like, some something happened there where it woke up the Texans offense because then they go on the they they get a touchdown. Then they force a 3 and out, and they get another 3 points. So now it's 106 at halftime in a half where you're like, everything that could've gone wrong for the Texans went wrong, and the chargers are somehow down. And then the second half was just an absolute like, that was I I've retired chargering because of Jim Harbaugh and the culture he's built. That was chargering.
Was it chargering?
I mean, they the pick 6, like, everything just fell apart all at once. I feel like everything just fell apart all at once.
I feel like Charger ring would be a little bit closer at the end. This was Yeah. Yeah. I think the Chargers ran into an acute case of building their entire offense out of Vlad McConkie.
Yeah. So about that. And I we we have to have a Justin Herbert conversation, but Ladd McConkie was incredible, and the rest of the chargers' offense was not. Ladd McConkie had a 197 yards. The other wide receivers had 45, and and tight ends.
Ladd McConkie had 1 touchdown. When Justin Herbert was throwing to Ladd McConkie, he had 1 touchdown, 1 interception. When he was throwing to anyone else, he had 0 touchdowns, 3 interceptions. He was 60% completion percentage to Ladd, 29% to everyone else, 13 yards per, per pass to Ladd, 2.6 to everyone else, and Ladd had 8 first downs and everyone else had 1.
Mhmm.
It was 1? 1. That's passing. They just couldn't do anything that wasn't Ladd McConkie. And, honestly, like, look.
I mean, we should talk Justin Herbert, if that Ladd McConkie touchdown doesn't happen, that stat line is 1 of the all time worst stat. It was already a bad stat line. And it it also But it was like that at least gave him 80 yards and a touchdown.
And was it the pick 6 that bounced off Will Disley? So That 1 wasn't on on Justin Herbert, but the other ones were.
So he had he had 4 interceptions. 1 was not his. The I think the worst 1 by far was the first 1 because it was 6 nothing. First half, CJ Stroud throws an interception, and the very next play, Justin Herbert tries to throw across his body across the field. Yeah.
And, like, you just can't I don't know what he was doing there. And then he had the 1 where he overthrew Ladd, and then I can't remember I can't remember what the last but he he was bad. He was really bad. And and his offensive line didn't help him, but, like, Justin Herbert has been in the playoffs twice now. He is, he was 14 for 32 with 4 interceptions on Saturday.
The other game he's in the playoffs, they blew a 27 nothing lead. It's not good. Yeah. I still would take him, but it's not good.
Big cat. This stat, is it a is it a bad stat? Is it a good stat? Or is a bad stat that actually is kinda good if you read it the wrong way? Okay.
Justin Herbert is now the only player in NFL history to throw more interceptions in a playoff game than he had interceptions during the entire regular season.
Okay. I think that is officially a
bad good stat. I think it's a bad stat that's good if you're a loser.
Yeah. It's a bad stat right now. Actually, it'll be a bad stat. When you look back at the season, if you're like, he remember that season, he only threw 3 interceptions?
Yeah.
You just hope that the person you're talking to isn't like, but what about the playoff
the way through 4? Then what? So they must have won the Super Bowl. Right?
Yeah. Yeah. You just hope that the person doesn't have that locked and loaded Yeah. Because you can get away with being like Justin Herbert actually only threw 3 interceptions in the season.
Here's the take. 3 interceptions is not enough interceptions. Mhmm. I agree. That's not enough interceptions.
You gotta throw a few.
You have to have more interceptions than that. But, yeah, it it's it's it's it shines a light on how well he played and how the chargers formula during the regular season was play mistake free football, play tough defense, and then somehow you win the game. Right. And in this game, it didn't work out, and he did not play mistake free football by a long shot. He was to be fair to Justin Herbert, they hit the fuck out of him a lot.
They hit the fuck out of him. And Greg Roman, I think he only called 16 runs, which again, that goes back to the Texas defense. Texas defense up front and and, I mean, Singletary, Kamari Lasser, like, they all were balling. But, like, that he had no time. He they were suffocating.
Like, as bad as Justin I know that the conversation wants to be about Justin Herbert because that's what we do. We talk about quarterbacks. I don't think you could talk about Justin Herbert without it first saying, like, hey, dude. Credit to the Texans defense because that was a lot of them. And, like, Justin Herbert played bad, but it was also the Texas defense playing out of this world good.
I think people are frustrated with Justin Herbert because, this gets really into, like, the sports media ecosystem. Correct.
You know,
I'm gonna I'm gonna be the, the Justin Herbert. I'm gonna be the, say something bad about Justin Herbert guy. Okay? You guys talk about him like he's won 3 Super Bowls. He hasn't won a playoff game.
But you guys we're supposed to think Justin Herbert is the second coming of Jesus Christ and Tom Brady. Yeah. But your golden boy hasn't won a playoff game. He just threw 4 interceptions. He sucks.
He sucks. He played a very bad game. At some point, the expectations, if he is like your entire offense and if he's supposed to be, you know, a great quarterback that's gonna be worthy of a huge extension, you would like for him to play way, way better in the playoffs.
I think he already got his extension.
Yeah. But to be worthy of that Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To be worthy of that money, and all the cap that's gonna be tied up in him.
I'll say this right now, and this isn't me defending Justin Herbert because he was terrible on Saturday. I will buy all the Justin Herbert's stock.
Right now is a great time. I I
will buy all of it. If you think that he is just, like, a terrible quarterback, that's fine. I still think he's pretty good. I would like to see him with maybe some more weapons other than just Ladd McConkie. This also is like a perspective game where the chargers were not supposed to probably be in the playoffs this year given the roster and, like, the overturn and the rebuild and everything.
So it's like it's hard in the moment to say, you like, you it feels like you're defending Justin Herbert. Well, I'm not trying to defend him. I'm more like they they overachieved this year. Like, they they overachieved. They they probably weren't gonna be a playoff team if you looked at it going into the season, and they overachieved to get to this point.
And they overachieved so much that everyone had them as a favorite. I thought they were gonna win this game. So it's like, you know, I thought I bet on that to win Super Bowl. Like, I I I was drinking the Kool Aid. So it's almost like they're a little bit of a victim of their own success in that respect.
Here's how Justin Herbert works for me. When I hear somebody saying this guy when when I hear somebody, like, sucking his dick, I'm like, let's pump the brakes. He hasn't really done anything.
Right.
When I hear somebody, like, sharpening their knife and being like, this fucking guy's a bum. I'm like, actually, he's really good.
Yeah. It's it's basically a microcosm for the world right now.
Yeah.
Like, if you live on an extreme where you're like, Justin Herbert's actually the best quarterback in the NFL, it's like, dude, no. And then if you say that you'd rather have anyone else besides Justin Herbert, you're like, alright. You're an idiot because Justin Herbert's good. Yeah. He's he's It's everything in the world right now.
He's very good.
Yeah.
Yeah. I wouldn't say great to say. And with CJ Stroud, maybe maybe his rookie season kinda fast forward through everything. Because, usually, when you get a a rookie quarterback who's good, he goes into, like, a game manager phase. Yeah.
And he just doesn't turn the ball. Just take care of the ball. You don't have to make these incredible throws down field. Just be safe, and let's move the ball on offense, rely on our defense. But we didn't get that his his rookie year.
It was like CJ is gonna go out there, and he's gonna be special, and they're gonna figure out a way to win. And now watching how they played against the chargers, that is a formula for these Texans
Yeah.
Is to play great defense and then just be very, very almost conservative on offense.
Yeah. Because, I mean, he he started the game bad, and he, like, you can't turn the ball over, and he did he had that 1 interception early. But, again, it was the the Texans defense allowing CJ Stroud to find his rhythm where he eventually did find his rhythm. And he actually did a really good job running the ball too. Yeah.
There was a few times where he made some big plays, with his feet. And, yeah. I text I don't wanna do I see, this is what we always do though with wildcard weekend is I always sell myself on the team I just watch win a playoff game. Because I'm like, well, dude, they just won a playoff game. That's really fucking good.
That's hard to do. But they're also and they're, like, the Chiefs haven't done anything in these playoffs.
That's true.
They So they haven't scored points. Damn. That looks good. The Texans next week.
No interceptions.
They're proven.
Yeah. No points. So if you were to have the, the Texans playing against the Bills or the Ravens, what would your thought be about that game?
Texas play yeah. It'd be like they get killed.
Yeah. The Chiefs are remember, the Chiefs are just as good, if not better. Probably better They are better. Than the Statistically. Yeah.
What more better than the Bills or the Ravens. So just remember that.
I'm happy that they've only they we only have 1 buy now because this used to be my biggest problem when we had 2 buys, and I would do that for 2 games. I'd be like, well, this this team just won a playoff game. But, I I just I I really did walk away from this game being, like, I I apologize for sleeping on how good this Texas defense is. And if CJ Stroud, again, can have time to, like, get in a rhythm in the game and and not have to do it all himself because that that game could have been 14 nothing in a in a fucking blink of an eye
if
that Texans defense doesn't stand up. And and it could have been 14 nothing with the chargers having the ball off a CJ Stroud pick.
Mhmm.
And it would have been like, well, this is there's just no chance they're coming back. They're in obvious passing out. Instead, they flipped it, and then Joe Mixon, who they brought in for these type of situations, was incredible in the second. He had 91 yards in the second half. He was the closer.
Yeah. They basically like, that that end of the game when the Texans oh, it was the the the blocked, extra point where Dicker got absolutely smoked. Yeah. But that was a moment where you're like, okay. This is when they're lining up for that extra point, it could have been a 10 point game in the 4th quarter.
And they block the extra point. They go they get that 2 point. But then the Texans are like, no. We'll just run Joe Mixon down your throat, and you won't get the ball back. Yeah.
That's a game manager formula. Yeah. Strong running game. Good defense. Don't make a mistake.
The blocked the blocked extra point that was returned, you have to at some point, the special teams coach needs to go over that scenario with the kicker. Right? Like, if the kick is blocked behind the line of scrimmage and it comes to you, it's not you didn't just throw a forward pass. You're not like Peyton Manning who's disgusted and just does the most unathletic bat down of all time. You gotta you gotta catch that thing.
Well, it was doubly bad for Dicker because I think he was I think part of him batting it down was like, I don't wanna get jacked up. Yeah. And he batted it down and still got jacked up.
Yeah. He he took a
shot to the chin.
Catch it and just get jacked up. Right in
the chin. Were you
gonna say, Hank? The Nickelodeon broadcast. Oh, yeah.
I was gonna get to that. I wrote that. I have I have a fun stat for Texans fans. Since 2002 when the Texans were founded as a as a franchise, they have more playoff wins than the Dallas cowboys. That is very fun.
They have, 6, and the Dallas cowboys have 4.
That's very fun.
Scott of really piss off Jerry Jones.
The Texans are 6 and 2 in the Houston Texans time slot.
Yeah. I was wrong with that. People were mad at me.
What do you mean?
I said that they always lose. Yeah.
They always no. They do. And they're actually in the time slot again next week.
They are against the Chiefs. As is tradition.
The the also, Joe Mixon 1 last thing about Joe Mixon. The yeah. He he was smoking on that Rex Ryan pack after the game in the locker room, which is very funny because he, I guess Rex Ryan said that it was basically a buy for the chargers.
Yeah. So, he was having fun with that. Rex Ryan. He's giving bulletin board material to teams. He's not a coach.
Can I just say that Rex Ryan, like, just chill out, dude? He the the way he's, like, every everything he's doing now is coming across as desperate. Like, memes, do you not agree? He on countdown this morning, I tuned in for a minute, and they were talking about the Vrabel hire. And he's like, hopefully, I get a chance to kick his ass twice twice a year.
Like, he's just begging for the job.
Yeah. And I I think there's, like, 0% chance
of that. Yeah.
So it's even more pathetic.
This is like crazy x this is crazy Rex's girlfriend. Yeah. He's being very, very emotional. And it's like, okay, Rex. Just you're you're coming out a little bit too strong, buddy.
Yeah. Just chill out. Just just calm down a little bit. Let the process happen.
He needs to go go coach high school or something.
Well, it's
just a very it's a very funny, like, thought to have where I don't know what I don't know what he's thinking. Like, hey. If I say if I say these things on countdown,
maybe Brick Johnson is watching, and he's like, oh, shit. We didn't think about Rex
Rex Ryan. He might be actually be thinking, if and he's like, oh, shit. We didn't think about Rex Rex Ryan.
He might be actually be thinking if I go viral enough, Brick will see this.
Yeah. Like, if enough people tweet about Rex Ryan being the Jets head coach,
maybe. And he might not be wrong.
I guess that I mean, Providence Twitter did tweet enough about Ed Cooley leaving Georgetown that he had to answer questions about it.
So that
could happen. But, yeah, the Nickelodeon broadcast.
I was before that, also, I was gonna say Joe Mixon said this team reminds him of the Bengals team
2 years ago. I think
it was same record, same, same spot, young quarterback,
beat the Chiefs. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. I I think the sections would be live in the game.
I still think the Chiefs are a more well balanced team. Agree with that. And, also, you're giving Andy Reid, I mean, what, 25 days to prepare? Yep. I guess it's only a week to you know, he he he did some scouting on both teams, but I'm sure they'll have a a way to figure out this Texans defense.
Now does this continue the stat that we brought up earlier this season that every team that has played both the Harbaugh brothers went 1 and 1 against the Harbaugh brothers? Because they got beat The Texans did. Yeah.
They got beat by
the by the Ravens Yeah. And then won against the chargers. I think that's every every coach that has played against each Harbaugh brother.
Yeah. Although, I guess, technically, Antonio Pierce went 1 and 2 against the Harbaugh brothers. That's true. Because he lost to both gym, but I that still counts. Yeah.
They they got a win and a loss.
Min 1 in 1 yeah. 1 in 1 minimum. Yeah.
1 in 1 minimum. I like that.
Yeah.
Yeah. The Nickelodeon broadcast. We had no idea that we were gonna make it. We made it. Big big catfish in Manatee.
Mhmm.
It was literally the Leo meme.
Mhmm.
We're sitting in the gambling cave when we had the nickel Nickelodeon broadcast up, and we're just like, wait. What the fuck? That's us.
It it happens from time to time when they're doing the game time commercial Yeah. Where I'll, like, hear my voice from the other side of the room, be, like, what what was that? But this 1, we had absolutely no idea what's gonna happen. We look up at it, and then next up is LeBron James. And who Kevin was it?
Kevin Finn. Kevin Finn Hart.
Kevin Finn Hart. Yeah.
We we were bigger than hit them.
And then whoever Ice Spice was. That was she was next.
That was pretty cool. Yeah. I I mean, I I had my kids watch it. They're they didn't fully understand it, but they were like, that's kinda cool. I was like, that's me.
They're like, well, that's a fish. I'm like, well, no. But that's me. But yeah. Thank you, Nickelodeon.
And then they used our they used our, the the Spongebob quote from our interview with Jim Harbaugh in 2018. Yeah. As, like, here's some yeah. Wait. Can you play it?
This is, I think it was Adam Shefter's daughter introduced us. Yep.
We got some pretty big celebrities. Check it out. Sports podcasters, Big Catfish and Manitz here in the house. LeBron James is back, and this time he brought his friend, Kevin Hart. And Ice Fish Spice is here to
look at Ice Fish Spice. If if they introduce us as podcasters, shouldn't we have
been whales? I look tired as big catfish. But yeah. They
give you butthole eyes.
Yeah. I'm not looking good.
It was also funny that they made PFT a manatee, but also still way smaller. Also smaller.
Yeah. Than half ish.
Yeah. That was tough.
Oh, and
then we also had, our guy, Jim Harbaugh, get captured by the stinky cloud, and then that was 32 to 6 was the score after Jim Harbaugh got captured by the stinky cloud.
That a real stat?
That's a real stat.
Is he still in cloud?
He might be. He's a dirty bubble. Oh, dirty bubble. Dirty bubble. Sorry.
Sorry.
What's the dirty bubble? The Spongebob fans will get mad at you.
Yeah. Well, it's stinky cloud's the acting that I got screwed up in my head. Dirty bubble. The dirty bubble captured Jim Harbaugh. What is the dirty bubble?
We does anyone have an explanation?
He's just a bubble that's dirty, and he's evil.
Okay. Got it. Okay. So it's pretty literal.
That's Yeah. Okay. That seems like it's not fair. That they had that they captured him in that. I agree.
Like, you're only taking out 1 coach?
I said it when, when when it came up on the screen. They it showed him with, like, dirty shit all over him. That's fucked up.
Yeah. You can't do that
to 1 coach. Did Harbaugh win the MVP? MVP? No. They gave it
to the winner the winning team.
Yeah. We did stuff the ballot. So this year, the they had a little disclaimer on the votes for MVP saying for entertainment purposes only.
Look at that.
As opposed to other years where it's definitely not supposed to be entertaining, but they made it seem like they would just give to whoever they wanted. I would like to think that if the chargers won, Harbaugh would have gotten the MVP.
I
would I would agree. I think we did enough voting. We had the dirty bubble. That's we're gonna have to bring that up to him next time. Yeah.
Because he'll be like, wait. Seriously? I don't like that. He'll he'll he'll be upset about it. Yeah.
Look at that. The dirty bubble captured him. Yeah. You can't Spongebob rigged. During a playoff game.
I do love the Nickelodeon broadcast, though.
It was cool having it up there. They really went all out with the slime this year.
Do you guys have any problem with, DJ Shark, tweeting a picture of him being, like, now that long 3 and a half months back to weed.
Oh, no. I didn't see that.
Yeah. It was it was just he was just holding a a a dog walker, little little tiny joint. He was, like, nice. I have a
problem with it. I don't think it's cool.
What do you mean?
Like, it's if you're really a big fan of weed, you you probably wouldn't, like, post a picture of that. He's probably just being, like, hey, guys. I smoke weed. Yeah. Like, trying to make it seem like he's a cool guy who smokes.
But maybe
Like, real real leaf heads know
Yeah.
That if you really felt that way, you wouldn't need to post about it. You would just go spark up a dupe.
So he might be being like, I'm I'm so he he captured it. Shout out my word I can't say, bud. Been a long 3 and a half months. So maybe he's just letting everyone know, like, you can smoke me out again. Yeah.
Like, I'm back.
Yeah. Like, I'm free to join the circle.
Yeah. I got no problem with it.
No. Like, from a standpoint of admitting that you smoke weed, I would never do such a thing because
I'm not a
drug guy. But, for him, no problem with being, like, I can't wait to smoke weed again. I just question posting it on social me.
Like Yeah. Why why? He he he is kind of admitting too that he hadn't been smoking for 3 and a half months, so that's kinda cool. There you go. Good for him.
Good job. Good job, DJ Shark. So, I mean, the chargers season overall success even though by the way, what do we think Justin Herbert's pregame speech was? It must have been terrible. Right?
No cameras. Well, not now. Cameras. Ben Herbert, who
is by far the best person to keep cameras away. The report was that Justin Herbert has had his pregame speech, taped the last, like, 3 weeks or something. And then this week for the playoff game, he had Ben Herbert make sure there were no cameras near him. That had to be a stinky stinky. Maybe it was the the, dirty cloud.
Is this dirty cloud just came out of his mouth? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what he said to him. I I like the move, though.
Just being like, no cameras, please.
Yeah. The, I did see a funny, meme that said that the the draft what what draft was Herbert? 2020, 2019?
2020. They called it
the if draft because it's like, if Tua could stay healthy, if Justin Herbert had weapons, and, like, if the Bengals could make it into the playoffs. Yeah. So it's all the if guys. Just hypotheticals everywhere.
Yeah. I I can see that. I I still think that the chargers they're on the upswing. Yeah. They're downswing last year.
It it's we're gonna get to the Broncos, but, like, there were certain teams going into this. I think the the the thing that hurts more for the chargers is they were favored in this game. And and I thought they were gonna win. I think a lot of people thought they were gonna win. So that hurts a little bit more that you went into a game that you thought was winnable, and you just completely fell on your face.
But you need you need some weapons. Quinn Johnson had 0 catches. Right?
They'll get some weapons. I don't think he had a catch. Yeah. So And they no. Josh Palmer was was a big 1 for him too.
Yeah. Like, because he does stretch the field a little bit. They also didn't count on Aaron Foster. Yeah. Aaron with a great I I hope they taped his pregame speech.
Was scared of the cannons. Yeah. Did you see that clip? I saw that. It's very funny.
I saw that. Those cannons are fucking like, they will scare you. Mhmm. They the I I don't know if it was like the was it just the air cannons before?
Yeah. I think it's just intros? Gunpowder?
Yeah. If you can handle big t
on a weekly basis, you should be able to handle cannon.
Yeah. I'd agree. I agree. So do we think that the Texas you you think the Texas really have
a chance?
I do. You love the Texas.
Yeah. I'm gonna take a money line.
But just don't trick yourself into they want a playoff game. That's what you're saying to yourself. And the Bengals thing.
The Bengals thing got in your head? Joe Mixon, young quarterback, wild card team.
Mhmm.
I just hate the Chiefs too. I I don't want the Chiefs. I any other team but the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, I'm fine with. Literally any other team.
And your your It does not matter who. Your hatred of the Chiefs comes from a place of being a Patriots fan, where you wanna keep them as far away from the dynasty that you had as possible.
Yeah. And I just don't it's not there's not yeah. That actually, that's Yeah.
That's it. Okay.
That's all
I need.
You could say, yeah, I want something new, but that's what it is.
Yeah.
Yeah. Mhmm.
I have 1 last sad charger stat from stat hole. In the final 31 minutes of their last 2 play playoff games so, like, the final 31 minutes of their last playoff game, final 31 minutes of Saturday, they've been outscored 63 to 9.
Yeah. That's tough.
That's really bad.
Mhmm.
That's really, really bad.
That's not good.
That's when you're supposed to win the playoff games. That's harder half.
That's what that is.
Yeah. It's it's just they were they were just overwhelmed by the Texans' defense. And, Hank, I don't the Chiefs are really good. Are they? Yeah.
Yes. They won 15 games.
But it could have been 10.
But it also could have been 16 if they had played their starters.
Rest versus Rust.
Okay. Rest versus Rust. Okay. I I don't have any counter to that. I do
like that there's somebody that's brave enough to go out there and be like, the Chiefs aren't very good. I appreciate that about you.
The Chiefs could lose this game. They're they're not I agree
with that.
Not as good as their record says they are.
But they could be better.
But their record their record is exactly what says how good they are.
Wait. Are are you saying they're not as good as their record says they are? They they actually should be better?
No. I'm saying, like, you know, if you if you stack them up against the other teams that had similar records of over the course of history, like, they would be the worst 1.
But you also have to remember that that week 18 game was Carson Wentz. So they
That's what I'm saying.
Sure they gave that 1 up.
It could be 16. Yeah. Could be 16 and 1.
Yeah. But they they get the extra game, so it doesn't really matter. In terms of 15 15 wins They went 15
and 1 in your head. Yeah. In your record. Right. Yeah.
Okay. There's, like,
a curse of 15 win teams. It goes all the way back to the the 1985 Bears. Like, the 85 Bears were the last team, I think, to win 15 games.
And then win the Super Bowl. Yeah. Because it was, what, the 99 Vikings?
That sounds right. Yeah.
The when they lost the NFC championship game?
I mean, exactly 15 wins. I think there was a year where there might have been
No. To this year,
there were 2 teams. There might have been another 1.
Yeah. There hasn't been a ton.
Let's see. 15 win teams NFL history.
Yeah. I know the Vikings. The Steelers? Steelers lost, Big Ben's rookie season, if I if I'm correct.
Correct. 2,000 so 1998 Vikings lost in the NFC championship game. Yep. 2004 Steelers lost in the AFC championship. 2011 Packers lost in the NFC divisional.
2,015, Panthers lost the Super Bowl.
Okay. So it has been 15 win teams
are bad. 40 years.
15 win teams are bad?
Yep.
Okay. Alright. May maybe I'm with you now, Hank. You've you've swung me. That was some deep analytics you've got me.
That's alright.
Yeah. Really good teams are sometime sometimes don't win the Super Bowl.
Happens almost every year.
Could've shortened it to that.
Yeah. Alright. Saturday night, Ravens 28, steelers 14. This was just an ass kicking. This was an absolute ass kicking.
This was a Lamar master class. This was a Derrick Henry master class. The Ravens, said fuck you to the Steelers. They did fuck you football for 4 quarters. I know that the the Steelers did score twice, but they had 299 rushing yards.
And it the the first half, the game was over. It was it it felt over after the, Steelers punted on their first possession and the Ravens got it on, I think, the 5 yard line and went 13 plays 95 yards and and a touchdown. That was like, oh, no. There's a problem. But it was really over on the next time the Ravens scored a touchdown when they went 13 plays, 85 yards.
Every single 1 of those plays is a run. Mhmm. Scored a touchdown. And then they scored at the end of the first half, and it was just like, this is this is as bad as it gets. The Ravens are just they're just so fucking good.
Yeah. And Lamar's so good. That that Lamar touchdown at the end of the first half where he just bought himself, like, 18 seconds of time and found justice Hill?
Yeah. All cool cool, calm, and collected back there as everybody was trying to, like I don't TJ Watt, he hasn't been playing that well in the last, like, 2 months. And if you're gonna beat the Ravens, you have to have TJ do he has to have, like, 2 takeaways on his own. Yeah. He has to have a punch, and then he's gotta get strip sack that he recovers.
And TJ has I think in the last month, he hasn't he might not have had a tackle.
I think I saw the stat. It was, like, a 127 snaps, no tackles, no pressures.
Here we go.
Tackles lost.
A 127 snaps of his 2024 season. 0 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks. And what they had him doing on defense was whenever they would run the read option, he would always tackle the ball carrier. Crashed. Yeah.
Running the running back. Yeah. And that was his job. And it left these huge gaps to the side, which somebody should fill if you're drawing up this defense. But there were some times where they just didn't fill that gap, and so Lamar just kept it and waltzed.
Yeah. And it it was like nobody within 5 yards of him for most of his run until the very end. And it was it was a very confusing defensive scheme.
Derrick Henry's Lightning McQueen. That's what Lamar said afterwards.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah. He was like yeah. He looked like Lightning McQueen when he had that 50 yard touchdown.
I'm telling you, Derrick Henry with the short hair, that is championship mentality. You take a, a, like, growth of braids that you've been working on for how long? 10 years? Yeah. I'd be like, you know what?
Fuck it. Chop it off. Yeah. I feel like that that's a good mindset to have.
Yeah. And the I mean, the Ravens are just, like, a complete team. Full full like, everything. Their, you know, their defense, we talked about it with Orlovsky on Friday that, you know, their their past defense has been completely changed when Kyle Hamilton moved back. And their offense is just I mean, Zay Flowers didn't play
in this game. They didn't need him.
Lamar was was still perfect, and he he killed him with his legs early. Killed like, whenever he had to pass, he would find someone. It was just it was just a a a good reminder that in the AFC, like, there are the haves and the have nots in this in these playoffs. And, like, the the Ravens are the haves. Like, this team is a Super Bowl championship level team, and they do have to play possibly 2 other teams that are in that level, which is unfortunate.
But, like, they're just so good and so complete.
Them and the Bills would have to beat 3 Super Bowl championship teams Yeah. For the Super Bowl this year.
Yeah. It would be, like,
the hardest Super Bowl road ever for
each 1
of those teams.
Unless the Texans. But then the Texans would technically be a Super Bowl level team if they
beat Chiefs. Beat the Chiefs. But yeah. But if that happens, then we will go back and retroactively act like we said what Hank was saying all along. Yes.
And the Chiefs were the worst 15 win team of all time.
Lamar also has the most career rushing, yards in the playoffs by QB.
Mhmm.
And he's only played, I think, 7 playoff games. That's just
how good
he is with his feet. And, again, it's not like he was he he was killing him with his feet. He was also killing him with his arm. He was just playing a complete game.
You have to say, if you look at the Ravens, they are as close to a complete team as you can get with the exception maybe they're kicking game. Yeah. Would you say that they're so good They didn't
have to kick.
They're so good right now that Justin Tucker might be their biggest weakness.
Yeah. And they didn't have to kick.
It's a good spot to be in.
Yeah. So, we should talk about the Steelers. Mike Tomlin, the Steelers. The Steelers are now, 8 year playoff drought playoff wind drought. Sorry.
That is the longest. That's actually double, the previous longest in Steelers history since they kind of became the Steelers in 1972 when they were, you know, starting to win Super Bowls and stuff. The longest they had gone without a playoff win was 4 years previously. They are Mike Tomlin is now, so he started his first 4 years in Pittsburgh. He was 5 and 2 in the playoffs.
He's 3 9 since. And in these the 8 year drought, he's 0 and 6 in the playoffs and they've given up 230 points. So Mike Tomlin
Mhmm.
Bad. I he's a great coach. I do think that it probably is time to move on to something different.
You think move on from Mike Tomlin? They're the Steelers aren't gonna do it, though.
Okay. So I've thought about this. And I I I I went I was reading articles and stuff last night because I couldn't sleep, and I was just like because I wanna understand because Steelers season is getting to the playoffs, which almost every other fan base or a lot of fan base would be like, fuck. Sign me up. Mhmm.
Like, Mike Tomlin never had a losing season. That's what people say. There is a point, though, where it feels like the message is getting lost and there isn't growth. And you can point to the fact that they haven't had an answer at quarterback probably since, you know, the last 3 years of Ben, Kenny, Russ. Like, they haven't had a a a great quarterback.
So they haven't been playing at the offensive level you need to play it at to win playoff games. And I would agree with that. But, also, they invest everything in their defense, and here's the, 6 game losing streak for the Steelers. You ready for this?
Mhmm.
It's a crazy stat. Before the Steelers scored their 1st offensive touchdown in these 6 games that Mike Tomlin has lost in a row, The patriots are up 10 nothing. The jaguars are up 21 nothing. The browns are up 28 nothing. The chiefs were up 30 57.
Shout out your, TJ Watt bet. The bills were up 21 nothing. The the Ravens were up 21 nothing. So as much as you wanna say offense, their defense has also failed them in the playoffs, and their defense has every single every single year basically, like, regressed as the season's gone along.
Mhmm.
And I don't like, I I I think I side with the steelers fans. Like, he's done a great job. You're not saying he's a bad coach, but sometimes the message gets lost and you have to change something. You have to shake something up because it's actually almost like a curse to have Mike Tomlin as your coach still because you're never bad enough to pick at the top of the draft to get a franchise quarterback. Yeah.
And then you invest in defense, and you can't really win like, you can't win in today's NFL without an offense.
I think that also their their defense, by the time they get to the playoffs with these, like, just crazy boring substandard offenses Yeah. By the time they get there, their defense is sick of having to carry the team. Their defense is exhausted from somehow scrapping together a playoff team. Yeah. By getting enough wins to get in, that by the time you get there and you have to play against another really good team, then they're they're just too gassed.
They're too tired from having to do it week
in week out. And you can't so the the other part about Mike Tomlin is you can't say, well, oh, the offense, stinks because we don't have a quarterback. We don't have this. We don't have that. Mike Tomlin has ultimate power in Pittsburgh.
He signs off on every single draft pick. He signs off on every coaching hire. The other thing I found, the rabbit hole, I I didn't realize this was an argument that goes, in Steelers community, which I kind of feel like is a fair argument. Mike Tomlin basically has no coaching tree. And you'd say, well, what the fuck does that matter?
That like, who cares about a coaching tree? But it does kinda say that he's hiring older coaches that maybe aren't, like, he's not he he hasn't been cultivating, like, young innovative guys that are doing things differently like a Ben Johnson or, you know, like a Sean McVay or Mike McDaniel or like some of these guys, Kyle Shanahan's coach Dre, like, some of these guys who are who are just spitting out young innovators of the game. Mike Tomlin has not done that essentially for his entire like, I looked at it. Bruce Arians is kinda the only 1 you could throw out there, and he already was on staff under Bill Cowher. Mhmm.
So it's like, I think there's a like, his way is an old school way that I think might be outdated and is hurting the Steelers, and they have to figure out a way to move on from him.
He does love old guys. He loves old guys. Dick LeBeau was his his defense
so that's part of the the like, he hasn't
But he also goes out and he gets old. He right. He imports old guys. So, like, Danny Smith, their special teams coach that's always chewing on gum on the sidelines. Brought him in.
Todd Haley after he got fired by the Chiefs. Arthur Smith. Yeah. Like, he's great coach. Great coach.
But, like, he he he gets guys and they it's not like Todd Haley didn't go and and, he didn't go to Pittsburgh and then go off and be, like, in I think he's coaching high school football now. I know he went to Cleveland for a stop. Matt Canada, like, where is where is he?
I don't even know. Some different country.
Yeah. I don't know. So I I I it's a hard it's like a hard 1 to to figure out because, again, you don't wanna Mike Tomlin will get a job right away
Mhmm.
Somewhere else.
You know you know what really happened, though? If you look at the stats, the defense has been very, very good for the Steelers in the playoffs until a certain event happened, and then their playoff defense was permanently broken.
What was that?
That event was the 2017 playoffs. Yeah. Blake Bord was hung 45 on them. Yeah. They lost 4542.
Which it wasn't that close.
It was a lot of garbage time.
It was
a lot of a lot of yeah. It was a backdoor 42 Yep. Is what they got. So they gave up 45 points. In the previous playoff, they gave up 12 points, 16 points, and then the New England Patriots in 2016 put 36 on them.
That's that's forgivable. Yeah. But their defense was still still legit at that point. Then 45 points. Then in 2020, they gave up 48, then 42, then 31, and now 28.
This was actually the the least amount of points that the Steelers have given up in a playoff game since 2017 excuse me, 2016.
Yeah. Their last playoff, Flynn. Yeah. Yeah. They yeah.
Blake Bortles broke them.
Blake Porto's broke them.
I just, I I I again, I don't know why I thought about it for so long last night, but it it there you you see this sometimes where a coach will get fired. It's not because he's, like, bad. It's because the message and, like, you're kind of going in the same direction over and over. Mhmm.
You know
what I mean? Like, you're not you're just not progressing forward, and you're kinda stuck in this rut. And that's what the steelers feel like right now. It's not saying, oh, Mike Thomas never had a losing season, and if he got fired tomorrow, he would have a job the next day. I I don't disagree with either of those statements, but it's just not working anymore.
Mhmm.
And what are the what's the fix? Like, are they gonna resign Russ? I don't think so.
I don't know. He did not look good. He did not no. He had that nice deep ball to Georgi. Besides that, not a lot.
Justin Fields, I don't think he's the long term answer either.
Right. We can do Aaron Rodgers, which is another 1 year fix.
Like, Band Aid? Coach Gruden was saying he would take Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones would be intriguing just because his point was, like, if you look at all the other players that the Giants have gotten rid of are not brought back, they all go somewhere else and play very well.
Yeah. He spent so much time in such a great room.
Yeah. Yeah. He's in a great O'Connell.
Talked about that room.
Yeah.
Mhmm. So of the year.
Would you would you what would you and and, obviously, Mike Tom is not gonna get fired, and he also is not gonna get traded because there's a no trade clause. Yeah. So if if he if he wanted to get, like he would never allow himself to get traded because he could just be like, why would I go somewhere and give up draft capital? Why wouldn't I just quit and then just go pick my next job?
Okay. So I think I have an idea for what they could do. How much does it cost to trade for the franchise tag? Is it 2 first rounders? I believe so.
That's almost the perfect situation if you're the Steelers because you're always picking in the mid to late teens.
Right.
So you're never gonna be in a position where you can draft a quarterback with Mike Tomlin Right. Where, you know, a lot of teams, if they are in the midst of what they feel like is a rut, they're usually 1 of the worst teams in the league. So that's not an option for the Steelers. 2, like, 18 overall picks or 17 overall picks for Sam Darnold, I think I might do that if the Vikings tag him.
Oh, yeah. But then then Sam Darnold's not with Kevin O'Connell anymore.
Do you get do you have a better idea?
I don't. I don't. I just the
best 1 I can come up with is if he gets tagged, trade for Sam Darnold. I think Arthur Smith can get something good out of Sam.
I I I do too. I I honestly think they'll do fix. And and Mike Tomlin's coming back, so this is all kinda we're just it's gonna be a hot topic, but I think Schefter even reported, like, his job's not in jeopardy. Like, the Steelers should figure out a way to move on and suck for a year or 2. You know what I mean?
Like, they're kind they're in this no man's land where they're just good enough to make the playoffs, and they're not gonna get a a franchise quarterback, and they're just gonna keep spinning the wheels right now. Like, they they weren't close in this game. No. And, like, that was and you could make the case for the chargers or the broncos. Like, they have young quarterbacks.
They're building something. They're on the ascent here. Like, they're gonna maybe, hopefully, get to that top level of the AFC. The steelers are not on the ascent. They're in the same spot they've been every year.
Mhmm.
Well, you say they don't show any signs of growth. George Pickens would disagree with you. Yeah. He said he's seen signs of growth from the offense. And then the reporter asked him, does that make you optimistic going forward?
And he said, nah. Nah. That's good. It's good to acknowledge that growth is not always good. Yeah.
Sometimes it's okay to not grow.
Yeah. Also, I saw stat Steelers' last lead was December 8th. So last 5 games, they didn't have a single lead in a game. Over a month? Yeah.
5 games played, not a single lead.
Yeah.
It's hard.
I just don't do you think Russ is what what like, what's gonna happen to Russ?
He's probably gonna show up to the facility and give everybody
a pep talk. Yeah. That was funny last night when he was he was doing a pep talk, and and Jerry was just like, yeah. That guy doesn't even play.
Yeah.
But I I he's he's done. Right?
I think so. I don't I don't know why you would pay Russ Wilson what Russell Wilson thinks he should be paid.
Right. Maybe you pay him and you're like maybe you pay him $1,000,000 and you're like, for every pass you complete over the middle of the field, we'll give you another $1,000,000.
Yeah.
It's like so you could earn up to $5,000,000 this year.
Yeah. Incentives for just not not talking to people at practice?
Yeah. The I there you gotta get creative.
There's no good solution for them. And, again, it feels kinda weird to feel bad for a franchise or feel bad for fans of a franchise that are perennially in the playoffs.
They have 6 Super
Bowls. 6 Super Bowls. But I I understand the frustration.
Right. I I totally get it. You're just stuck in absolute purgatory, which is kinda hard to do in the NFL. Like, that it happens in the NBA. It can happen in other sports.
It's hard like, in the NFL, you're kind of either good or bad. They're just right in
the middle. And, also, Steelers fans kinda saw this coming in late September. Oh, yeah. Like, you knew exactly how the rest of the season was gonna play out.
Yeah. Yeah. And and it's and it had just enough intrigue this year where you had, like, a 4 and 2 starter in Justin Fields. You'd be like, what is he doing? And then you ripped off all those wins, and then you didn't you haven't led since December 8.
We did give a lot of credit to Mike Tomlin for making that change Yeah. Which took some balls.
He's a very good coach.
Yeah.
I just don't think that it's working anymore in Pittsburgh. Yeah. And and Pittsburgh doesn't fire coaches, and I think he just signed an extension last year. So they're not gonna fire him. But, yeah, I I I I thought about it a lot because I feel like Steelers fans, this is going to be the talk in Pittsburgh.
So I wanted to give at least a little hat tip to, like, discussing what everyone's gonna be talking about in Pittsburgh. But, yeah, the Ravens are just different level. Yeah. Right. They play that game a 100 times.
Ravens win a 100 times.
Ravens are insane. They can do anything they want on offense
Yeah.
Even without safe flowers.
Yeah. And I'm so excited for that matchup next week.
That I I'm very excited too, but I've never been more confused about a game. Like, how it's gonna shake out. I have no idea.
Yeah. We were talking about just not even betting the game, just rooting for football.
Yeah. Just enjoying it. It's gonna be enjoyable. I think I'll probably end up betting for touchdown scores on each team.
Yeah. Just having fun. Having a good time. Yeah. Watching the game.
I'm gonna bet on the boys. Yeah. Also, the Ravens only had 3 penalties, which that's significant because it looks like they can they can play buttoned up. Is Zafar's gonna come back for this game? I don't
know. I I read a report last week saying that if he doesn't play this game, he should be back in time for the next round, but I don't know. I don't think they I don't think they really know either.
Okay. Alright. Let's take a
up to Stave right now.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is the the Ravens, like, this is gonna be the Bills, Chiefs, and Ravens, all 3 of those teams have Super Bowl contending teams, and only 1 of them is gonna make it out.
Whoever wins that game has to beat the Texans.
Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. You're right. Well, they'll
they'll have the whole play.
But somehow Somehow
the Chiefs can win that.
If the Chiefs can pull an upset on the Texans, then I guess you have to beat the Chiefs. Yeah. But they have to. They have to. They have to.
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Bills 31, Broncos 7. Broncos
up 7 nothing in this game. 1st rookie to rookie touchdown pass in postseason history. Yeah.
That was a crazy stat.
I I didn't believe it at first. Bo Nix, Troy Franklin?
Yeah. Teammates at Oregon. Wild. Wild. Oh, by the way, it was, we didn't mention the chargers in Texas with the score gummy.
Oh, yeah. That's right. Playoff Skorigami. How rare how rare is that?
I I usually care a lot about Skorigami. That's my bad. Mhmm. That's my bad. Very cool.
Bills 31, Broncos 7. Yeah. The the Broncos, for the first 5 minutes, you're like, watch out. And then we were reminded that the Bills are the Bills, and they're just better.
Mhmm. And I think we need to start respecting Khalil Sikir a little bit more. Yeah. Because he is I love him. He is a top tier wide receiver.
He doesn't get talked talked about like he is because his name wasn't Stefon Diggs. Yep. And he didn't have the media attention all around him. But he can play. Yeah.
Whether he's returning a kick out of the slot on the outside, he's a problem for defenses.
Yeah. He's very, very good. And this this game game was like, the Broncos defense played pretty well in the first half because they held him out of the end zone. I mean, they I think they scored 1 touchdown, but they they were they staged, like, tough in the red zone. And then the second half started, and Josh Allen was like, yeah.
You know what I'm gonna do? I'm we're gonna run the ball down your throat. And then if I ever need to make an incredible throw, I'll just do that. I can do it
because I've done it.
That throw to Ty Johnson was so insane.
Yeah. He was just running around, scrambling. Didn't look like anything was gonna be open. Throws at the back of the end zone, and he catches it with, like, his knee on the ground, getting his feet hit. It was insane, but you expect that type of stuff out of Josh.
The 1 to Dalton Kinkade. Also, going into halftime, the Broncos were kicking a field goal to tie the game. Yeah. That's wild when you think about the second half and how lopsided it was to think back to that moment. Like, if that it was it 38 yarder?
Yeah. Something like that?
It was a little longer than that, I believe. Yeah.
So it but he doint it. It was def it was a it was a very makeable kick. It was.
It was
a very loud doink that he let out. And if he had made that kick 10:10 in the halftime, second half probably turns out the same way, but just kinda weird to think that they played him to to a tie at halftime. It's a
10:10 it was a 50 yarder.
10:10, and he's out of bounds on that 4th and 1. Like,
it's a game. It would
have been a completely different game, I
feel like.
But I so here's yarder's a lot long. You know what it was? He ended up so high on the upright.
That's just kickers, man. Here here's what I didn't understand about this game. So, first of all, the Bills' offensive line is just monsters because they just ran it down the Broncos' throat. Mhmm. Like, ran like, over and over James Cook.
I think he had 70, 80 yards in the first half. What I didn't understand about this game is I feel like Sean Payton started the game the correct way being like, hey. We're over a touchdown underdogs in Buffalo. Buff like, Josh Allen, if he's if he's on, he's gonna score. They're gonna score every single time.
We gotta steal possessions. We gotta play aggressive. And, like, you saw it with the, you know, the Bo Nix touchdown deep shot. You saw it with the fake punt, which was a great call, perfect call. And then the second half started and the Bills scored a touchdown, I believe, to start the second half.
And then the Broncos went run, run, pass, punt. And then the Bills scored not touchdown, and they went run, run, pass, punt. Like, they just got I I they kind of got a little conservative. They didn't let Bo Nix just rip it.
It was a little Kurt Signeti like, wasn't it?
Yeah. It was just it was weird. I thought that I thought they were going to really embrace the role of underdog and be like, we have to do some crazy shit to have a chance in this game because you know, like, the Broncos are not as good as the Bills. If you play them straight up, the Bills will win. I thought Sean Pate was doing that in the second half.
I felt like he just abandoned that.
Yeah. They, only had 2 sacks for the Broncos. If they were gonna have a chance at this game, they were gonna have to take Josh down way more than that. And, yeah, the offensive line for the Bills at 1 point, our friend Rudy, who is, I don't know if is he a Denver native? Yeah.
He is Colorado. Yeah. He is as Colorado as it gets. He was just like
National champion.
Yeah. He was like, the Bills are their offensive line is just so heavy. Yeah. And he was right. They They're mauling.
Just leaned on him. Dawkins was just bowling people over. At 1 point, Dawkins, like, picked up James Cook and dragged him for a first down
on his own. I think he also, like, put 1 of the defenders the the Broncos defenders out for the game by just, like, hitting him hard
enough. Yeah.
Hit him hard in the shoulder. Right?
Yeah.
Yeah. Knocked him out.
Looked like he separated his shoulder.
The Bills also looked like a very complete team.
Yes. Very much so. I mean, their their defense is still a question mark, but they they answered the question mark at least against the Broncos.
And they finally threw the ball downfield to Curtis Samuel.
Yeah. Curtis Samuel had a 55 yard touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. They did it all.
They they they played much like the Ravens. This was like a tune up game for the Bills versus Ravens because it was even though it felt close in the first half, that second half was just an absolute demolition, and it was it was never close in the second half.
The the thing I'll say nice about the Broncos, obviously, this is free money. This game was like
Oh, yeah. I got some nice things
to say about the Great
season for the Broncos. Yeah. You're very happy if you're a Broncos fan. You probably would have liked to make this more competitive or or win the game, obviously, but you're happy. This is a good season for you.
I think they have the most dead cap in NFL history. $85,000,000. So that's Russ Wilson. Yep. That's a contract that you That's Russi.
Decided to to cut your losses and move on from. And with Bo Nix with Bo Nix and Cortland Sutton together, If you're putting together like an NBA jam team where you can only have 2 guys out there on offense Yeah. That's that's 1 of the better combos.
That's a fun 1.
Because Cortland Sutton is really, really good. And Bo Nix, obviously, he's gonna be a great quarterback. Although I did see I saw something with the pregame shows where they were talking about Sean Payton's offense and how complicated is it it is to learn for a quarterback. And some of his play calls are, like, they take 7 or 8 seconds to say Yeah. Out loud.
That's gotta suck if you're a quarterback in that system. Yeah. Like, how much time do you have to spend just memorizing and paying attention?
But Bo Nicks' professional. He's got
his book back. That's true.
He's ready to go. The, yeah. Sean Payton's halftime speech was or or halftime interview was where I was like, oh, this game is over. Because he came out and was like, we gotta we gotta control the ball more. We gotta we gotta just, like, control the ball.
It's like, no. You gotta score points.
That's kind of the vibe, but then it's like, we're gonna try to run the football. Right. That's we're gonna put forth our our best foot and try to run the football, but they just weren't able to.
Also, credit to Bills for the report came out before the game that, like, they deliberately were putting Von Miller on a snap count in the regular season so they'd be fresh for the playoffs. That showed. Full circle. Yeah. That that showed full circle.
Yeah.
We went to full no. But the Broncos, I like, you obviously, you're upset if you're a Broncos fan. But in a weird way, like, this loss, it's not a good loss because you lost the playoffs. But you got your asses kicked, and it's like you're you're the 2nd youngest roster in the NFL. You had $85,000,000 in dead cap.
Similar to the chargers, you did not think you're gonna be a playoff team this year. And the bills there's levels to this. Like, the bills are on a different level as a football team. You're trying to get to that level. You got your rookie quarterback, start in the playoffs.
Like, everything in in this Bronco season was a win outside of today. But, like, long term, this was a great, great season that you'll hopefully look back on and be like, that was the start of something special. You have a soup a ton of young guys played all year. You got, like, the dead cat money's gonna get fixed, and you got your quarterback. Mhmm.
That's awesome. Great season. Like, great, great season. I'd say a
is this an a, a plus season? I'd say it's a. Should we grade seasons? I think it's a I think it's a season. I think
it's a season.
I would say an a minus season for the chargers.
I would agree. I would agree. Because you were favorites and you lost that camp. Yep. Also, I I don't wanna be uniform police, but I hated the Broncos uniforms.
Yeah. Go with the classics.
Just go like, it drives me insane. The Broncos have some of the nicest uniforms in the entire NFL. Like, they they have uniforms that they can put out there that are, like, make you feel nostalgic about life.
Yeah.
Go with those. Go with the all whites and the blue helmet.
Yeah. I don't like the orange pants. These orange pants were ridiculous. When we say you don't wanna be uniform police, yes. You do.
Yeah.
I do. I wanna be.
Well, I I saw the uniforms. It's like they got no chance. I'm like the
guy that buys that light at the hardware store and puts it in my car so I can pretend I'm a cop. Yeah. I do want to be the uniform police.
And I I I've said this before, like, when I went on my, rant about the packers, whatever snow white uniforms and princess uniforms, I, I hold teams with history to a different standard. So it's almost a compliment. Like, I think the Broncos have a incredible franchise history and have incredible uniforms in their bag. I hold you to a different standard. I want you to bring the to the playoffs, I want you to bring the best uniform.
Yeah. Like, if the Jaguars were in the playoffs
So can
wear whatever goofy shit you wanna wear.
The Rams and chargers can wear whatever the fuck they want. Yeah. Because I know that they have, like, a 1000000 different. Even the Seahawks, like, they do weird uniforms. Who cares?
Yeah. It's fine. The Broncos, like, that's John Elway. You gotta there's classic playoff games that you can look up the footage to. That's what I wanna see when I watch the Broncos in the playoffs.
Maybe Sean Payton went with these uniforms because he knew he was gonna lose, and he didn't want to add.
He
wanna sully the legacy of the great Denver uniforms with a loss.
That's a great point.
Right?
So He is protecting the brand.
So when the Broncos bring out their classic uniforms, we know that they have a real team.
Yes. That's how you know.
Yeah.
So we we we always think, oh, I feel like they always win in these uniforms. Well, it's because their coach knows that they're better when they wear them.
Yeah. So, yeah, Max just pulled up, I think it's the 91 AFC championship game, and the Broncos are wearing the all whites with the blue helmets.
Those are awesome. I also like these Bills throwbacks with the red the red helmet. Yeah. Also, shout out that 1 guy in Bills Mafia that was in the end zone, sport coat, big belly hanging over, giant twisted tee in his hand, and the buffalo wing necklace with the top hat. That was just, like, Bills Mafia just still down
to a
human being.
Yeah. King Bill's mafia. Hank, what'd you think about this game? Don. I know you talked yourself into the Broncos.
The Broncos, like, they like you said, the fake punt worked, but they didn't make anything out of it. They missed a field goal to tie it up at halftime. If they, you know, got some points there, tied it up at halftime, and then that 4th and 1, like, they got that was a great play by Josh, but it was, you know, inches away from
Oh, yeah.
Incomplete. Yeah. Like, as much as it was a blow, like, the Broncos were also very much they were alive in that game. Mhmm.
Yeah. They were just getting run on, though. Like, I I still don't
think they would've won, but, like, I think
A couple plays could've made it closer. Yeah. I'd agree with that. I just think the bills are just, again, on like, there's 3 teams in the AFC that are on a different level. It's the the bills, the ravens, and the Texas.
Mhmm. Those 3 teams. Those 3 teams are just playing at a different level come January. Yep. Everyone else is just hoping to win a playoff game.
I can't wait for the Bills Ravens game. It's I'm so I I I'm so happy it's the last game too on on I feel like that's Sunday or, yeah, that Sunday late spot divisional round is always, I feel like that's always the big, big game.
This is when it's, like, officially officially playoffs. Like, that's a game you'll think about all week. Yeah. Every day this week. Yes.
And you know what? I said it when when when
does when is Lyon I mean, when is Bills Ravens?
When the Bills went up 287, I was like, this is why we watch sports for the Bills Ravens. This is why we put in the hours. This is why we lift the weights. This is why you, like, are maybe from the outside world looked at as somewhat pathetic, like, the people who were trashing Tate and Titus. Mhmm.
And saying they weren't men because they were celebrating Ohio State and Jack Sawyer.
Yeah. Instead of instead of watching sports, you should be out there participating in mutual combat.
Yeah. That guy, he doesn't have Bills Ravens in his life.
He doesn't. And you know what? This is a game Can
you read the that this this was crazy because,
like, it was just a very it was a pretty normal, like, gambling cave clip, I felt.
It was very funny. Yeah. Let me read it. I I think I bookmarked a couple of them because there was a couple.
This is a game that you're gonna have to be prepared for. You're gonna have to be ready as a fan. Even if you don't if you're not a fan specifically of the Ravens or the Bills, you gotta bring your a game to watch this game.
Yeah. Alright. So there was 1 person who said there was 2 of them.
It was Tate and Titus after the Jack Sawyer, like, fumble recovery touchdown. They were just, you know, celebrating and, like, dry humping the air,
which Yeah. Yeah. Scroll
up. Pretty pretty standard.
Yeah. So this person Game changer. These guy I assume these guys are just, like, Andrew Tate, like, Jason. Mhmm. He said it is utterly embarrassing how men have become bystanders of fake combat instead of active martial participants.
It is a very funny clip because Tate is just dry humping a a football.
Who is this guy? Arthur Kwan Lee?
Yeah. Then there was another guy, z rebirth 369 said, gay shit I've ever seen. Whole country is dying, and they only feel passion when watching men touch each other. Great. Good point.
What? Wait. Guys can't watch sports anymore?
They're not what the fuck? They're kinda boys touching each other.
Like, what the hell? Wait. Since when was it when is it wrong to to watch sports with your boys? It's not. And guess what?
Those 2 guys, they think we're losers. You don't have Bills Ravens to look forward to. And I'm banning both of those guys from watching Bills Ravens.
And I would also like to know when they thought that the country was great because there's always been sports.
Yeah. Bread and circus.
Always been sports.
That's a and
it since the Romans
And they know what?
Because they did sports.
It's a hell of a circus.
Yeah. It's a great circus. I love the circus. And guess what? The circus makes us forget all our problems.
And this is gonna be It works.
And it's gonna be such a circus coming to town this weekend.
We literally do bread and circus in this office every single Sunday where they just throw food at us, and we watch sports, and we forget all the world's problems. Yeah. Oh, wait. And it's the best existence. And I think a lot of people listening right now do the same thing every Sunday.
Entertainment and carbs? Yeah. Bad?
Oh, no. But then you won't be thinking about how bad everything is. Yeah. Yeah. That's the point.
That's literally the point.
Yeah. How about instead of worrying about whether or not a guy is gonna cross an imaginary line on a field, you focus on real issues like immigration.
Yeah. Hey. You guys watched 3 hours of a football game? Well, I thought long and hard about Ukraine. Yeah.
Who's who had a better Sunday? Me. I did. I had a great
I had a great weekend.
Yeah. I I had a lot lot better of a Sunday. Okay. Anything else for for Bill's Broncos? Broncos get better uniforms.
DeMar should not have celebrated the interception. He knew that he didn't pick it off.
I don't know if he did because he looked shocked when they overturned it. Yeah. He had that face where he's like, what?
That's true. I I always wonder that when they go to, like, a replay and it's a bang bang play where a guy traps the ball off the ground a little bit. In the moment, if diving on the ground, do you know that you Yeah. Look at
his look at his face. He did not he thought he caught it. Yeah. He also that's a total non story if it's anyone but Tamar.
Correct.
Like, Tamar gets Tamar gets clowned.
I got a question for you about Tamar. When did crazy. When did when did Tamar become, like, a joke because he died? I don't know. Because it was a pretty incredible story what happened to
him. Correct. But it happened in the last, like, maybe year?
No. I mean, people are doing the clone shit, like, right away.
But that was different.
But that Some people actually thought it was a clone.
Yeah. Billy, that was different. That was like, there's fucked up shit they're not telling us. Now it's like people it feels like there's some people that are actively rooting They hate DeMar. Against DeMar Yeah.
Just because he almost died on
a football field. Yeah. They no. They hate him.
Yeah. It's very bizarre.
It is real.
I've noticed the same thing.
Do you think it was a fake punt?
It might have been the fake punt.
Fake punt was It
might have been the fake punt.
Was a funny because it felt like they were doing the fake punt to put the spotlight on. Like, thank you for coming back tomorrow.
And, like, not only, like, take the whole fact that he almost died in a football field. He was a fringe player, special teams player that has worked his way into the starting rotation. Like, that should be applauded.
And I think his whole mission is to put defibrillators in in schools Really good mission. Everywhere.
If you have kids, you should be a pro Demar guy. Yeah. Were you gonna say something, Max? You don't like Demar?
No. I I just wanted to to show you I I'd like to more.
Oh, okay. You'd like to more.
I just wanted to show the ref Josh Allen.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. So did you hear afterwards? So so there was a, red zone trip where the Bills, there was definitely a hold that they missed. And Josh Allen yelled at the refs.
So there was a clip coming out of the commercial where was it Bill Vinovitch? Went up to Josh Allen, went to the sideline to talk to him. And, obviously, everyone's like, I cannot believe the ref is apologizing to Josh Allen. Josh Allen after the game said that's not what was happening. The ref came up to him to tell him, hey.
Stop yelling at us. Like, we we missed calls. Mhmm. If you keep yelling at us, like, it's not gonna fix anything.
I think it was the, the mutual hand touching and then the pat on that.
Yeah.
It was they they gave each other a side hug.
So the conversation was not, hey. I'm sorry, Josh. We'll get you on the next 1. It was, hey, Josh. Could you stop being an asshole to us, I guess?
So that that totally changes it.
How many wait. Did did the imagine if Patrick Mahomes did this, the media would go nuts. Did that become a big
thing? Yeah. I think that was driven, yeah, by a lot of I do like it it becomes a real rivalry, like, when when the the Chiefs and the Bills imagine the outrage on the Sabbath. They showed a ref touching Patrick Mahomes the way they did just now with Josh Allen. That's when you know and I know the Bills haven't beaten the Chiefs in the playoffs, so you like, rivalry, I put in quotes here, but, like, Chiefs fans hate Bills fans.
Yeah.
And Bills fans hate Chiefs fans because they're gonna use this clip to fight a turf war
Mhmm.
Between Josh Allen and which they should.
You know what? This is ammunition for that war. This is ammunition for the picture of Patrick Mahomes kissing the the ref on the lips, which I'm still not sure if that's real or not.
No. That's real.
It looks very real.
Yeah.
So whenever that gets posted, now they have instant comeback.
Yeah. Yeah. They're like, look at this.
And this is realer. Yeah. This actually happens. Some would say.
Yeah. Good good job producing, Max. We forgot to mention that. People would have been bad.
That was memes.
Oh, memes. Memes, take a victory lap. What do you wanna say? I would like to thank myself. Oh, wait.
Wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Memes is is 1 of the turf war guys.
You were pissed that the ref was going up to him.
Oh, as a Jets fan? Yeah. Yeah.
That would make sense. Yeah. No. No. No.
No. No. No. No. You were saying
You were saying Yeah.
You were mad.
You were saying to show the Josh Allen thing Yeah. Not knowing that Big Cat was gonna say, oh, Josh said that the ref was saying stop yelling at me and get penalized. Yeah.
No. That's not it. Chiefs fans are getting mad at me because I tweeted out, the ref apologized to Josh Allen, hashtag some things.
Yeah. And Oh.
They were saying very mean things.
I thought you were you were on the side of the Chiefs fans there. Oh, fuck. We forgot to mention that Boltman, which I think was a it's a fake Boltman.
It's like DeMar. It's a clone.
That's the worst. That was partially why the Chargers lost.
Yeah. That that's that looks like
Oh, you me you maxed Boltman?
Yeah. And then some somebody, took it, and it went viral.
Oh, I love it.
This fake Boltman looks like drill. Yeah. That's not Boltman.
No. It's not. He's I think Bolt original Boltman sold his Boltman For, like, 50 k. Yeah. Because he was so sick that they left, San Diego.
Alright. Eagles 22, packers 10. Maxey, ugly game. Rust.
Quarterback had some rust that he had to work out. Defense was phenomenal.
Defense was very good. Jordan Love stinks.
Yep. Lot of lot of pressure from that d line. Made a made the quarterback look not so great. Defense was really, really good. Both both lines were were really, really good.
Saquon was really, really good. Some things to work on for next week, but you'll take that win 10 times out of 10. Mhmm.
Are you concerned with the play calling?
I'm concerned with the win. Oh, okay. Oh.
I was just asking if you it sounds like you're a little touchy about that question.
Yeah. That was a little touchy.
A normal answer to that would be, no. I thought I thought Kellen Moore did a great job.
Yeah. No. I'm not worried. Your answer tells me
that you might be a little bit worried.
You got very defensive there.
Very I mean, it was Eagles 122 to 10. I don't think there I don't think it was a 1 score game at any No. I'm not. Up until
the end.
It's like
I I think Oh, you think you you think Blake going good? Definitely a 1
score game. I think the Eagles was way 100% score game. A very, very, very good team. I think they could win
the score game with the Packers
having a lot of getting very defensive about a simple question, Max.
Well, it was, like, the Eagles just dominated that game and then immediately, like, and so are you worried about the play calling of Kellen Moore and the Philadelphia Eagles?
I'm asking that because they were
You mean
the fucking Bucks. Run. The Bucks just shot the shit on their pants
in the 4th quarter. Right? Calm down. I'm trying to do a podcast here.
I know. But you I mean, the Eagles just dominated the game and your and your immediate just, what do you think about the play calling?
Not such a
I I I'll tell you what, Max. I'm gonna defend you here. We talked about play calling in the previous 3 games. I don't think you have any problem with the play calling
judging by this reaction. No. No problem with
the play calling.
That's my answer. That's how that sounded exactly like a
guy who has no issues with the play calling.
He just went straight to the commanders.
No.
I mean, you guys you you dominated that game. It got, like there was there was a a little bit of a chargers vibe in the first half where everything went perfect, and you were only up 10, especially with, like, the fumble, the on the opening kickoff and a touchdown 4 plays later, and you're like, oh, this is gonna be easy. And then you did you struggled. The offense did struggle for the first half. Jalen Hurts looked like he was still concussed a little bit, but they made some big plays in the second half, and it was never a doubt.
You're right. They never the packers never had the ball down 1 possession.
Yeah. No. There was never like, oh, shit. This is a drive where we could give up the lead. Mhmm.
And that and it's always a little bit more comfortable watching a game that way. Yeah. So I'm I'm happy with the way that it turned out. There's 1 if if I'm being honest, there's 1 thing that I'm concerned about, and that's the kicker. Yeah.
The kicker is a big issue.
Yeah. Hank has a question. No. Continue if you
what's your question? No. I would I would like I I'm more interested in what you have to say. Loser talk question of the show. What you have to say.
Loser talk question of the show, because you just said they never had the ball, down 1 possession. You said it was nice to watch, kinda easy game. You tweeted in the middle of the game, we're gonna lose this game.
Oh. But yeah. That's good.
Yep. That's true.
Yeah. Yeah. That's investigative journalism by Henry Lockwood there.
They can either talk.
Correct. But inside the lines, there's I'm not accountable for what I say.
Okay. That's the great ones say that. You just can't you can't No.
No. No. I I can't did you think that? Because I am an anxious I'm I think the world's strong. Loser.
We won.
But that was you.
What made you say that?
Yeah. I think it was Jake Elliott. I think it was probably after the missed extra point because that's, like, a such a a thing that happens. Like, you miss an extra point, and it comes back to bite you in the ass.
Yeah. The injuries, not great today.
Nikobe Dean, that that's bad. That's the only injury, but it's really bad.
Is Slay totally good? They they they came back in the game. Yeah. I know he came back in.
I mean, I assume if he came back in the game, that he'll be playing next week.
Okay. I, in terms of packers playoff losses, this 1 didn't scratch the itch as much because, like, 1, I I didn't think they were that good because they lost to the bears who were not good. So I was like, well, they they're not very good. And then 2, every packers player got injured. So that's and I'm not saying, like it's an excuse that I I actually like, I I don't know if the Packers would ever won that game, but, like, they had a moment where, their top 3 wide receivers weren't playing anymore and their best offensive linemen.
So it's like, I kinda got robbed. And then that feel of that, like, feeling of, like, Yeah. Because it was like, yeah. Your whole team just got injured.
Yeah. And then when when they were driving with the ball, I think they threw a pass to their 5th string wide receiver, which didn't put his feet in
balance. Right. And Yeah. That was kind of the moment where I was like, I really wanna be enjoying this, but it's like, they don't have literally anyone left.
Yeah. Like, if that was Romeo Dobbs that did that or Yeah. It's Christian Watson that did that, you you could be like, losers. Right. But now it's like, this is kinda what you expect.
Or if
the Packers were healthy and they, like, just barely lost, they're like, wow. We could've gone on a run. Like, I think Packers fans probably were watching that game, watching everyone get hurt. And they're like, if we had to play next week against the Lions, we're fucked.
Yeah.
Like, that they just were ripped apart with injuries. I do think Jordan Love is, like, I for everyone's like, oh, he's the next in line. Like, I I don't I don't see it. He's good. He's not
His picks were pretty bad today.
Yeah. He's not he he doesn't I know he's still young. He's he's, like, 32 or something. But he's and I know it's only his 2nd year, but it's not like he's he had a really awesome 8 year 8 game stretch last year. Got paid $55,000,000.
He was okay this year. Threw a lot of interceptions. He had a good stretch at the end of the season as well. But I I don't think he's, like, some do you guys agree? Like, do you think he's, like, gonna right now, would you say Jordan Lowe's gonna be, like, a top 3, top 5 quarterback?
Because that's what Rodgers and Favre. Yeah.
Yeah. Here's what I would say is on the broadcast when they talk about the passing of the torch, and they say, first, it was Favre, then it went to Rodgers. Now it's on Love. I don't think that 1 of those 3 is like the other or 1 of those Right. Yeah.
Like the other
It's a dragon
meme? Exactly. But I I think he's a good quarterback.
Yeah. And he could get better, and this could all look really stupid by me, but I it's not so far, I'm not like, holy shit. This guy's insane. I think he's a he's a good quarterback. Yeah.
He's a good quarterback. Yeah. Which is a quarterback. He's following 2 hall of famer.
And that's a great thing to have.
Yeah. Also, as much as I want to relish in the packers' loss, which I am very happy that you you beat them, Max, because, again, it was a little different this year because I I think I said it 2 weeks ago where I was like, I don't think they're a problem anymore. Like, I just did they didn't beat any really good teams this year. They went they lost twice to the Vikings. They lost twice to the to the Lions.
Pretty much lost twice to the bears.
It's pretty much lost twice to the bears. They like, they were always, like, they they they were just not in that if we're going levels again, they were never in that upper level of the NFC. But they are, and it hurts me say, they are the youngest roster in the NFL. And I do think, like, knowing how the Packers run as an organization, they'll probably be really fucking good next year.
And you've got a great head coach. Malefor is an awesome head coach. Yeah. They and Josh Jacobs, great running back. Love watching that guy play.
Boy run.
Love there were a couple big boy runs in this game. Dallas Goddard. That 1 at 1 point, Josh Jacobs dragged the defender, I think, like, 5 yards on the ground who was grabbing on the back of his shirt, which somehow didn't rip. It just stretched for, like, 5 yards. Yeah.
That is that's a dude.
Yeah. I yeah. Like, I wanna I wanna be happy with the injuries and the fact that the packers are so young. Like, the end of Rodgers was fun because it was like, he's he's getting older and older and older and the window's closing. Mhmm.
I I know how the Packers run their organization. I'm sure they'll fucking gonna nail their draft picks, and all their receivers are gonna end up being awesome and come back and just gonna be, like, fuck. Yeah. And and everything I just said about Jordan Love is gonna be wrong.
But are they gonna draft wide receivers in the 1st round, like, all the time now for Jordan Love?
That'd be very funny. It would be.
Yeah. Just make him happy.
I I've seen some, like, weird, like, Matt LaFleur's should be fired. Like, that's the dumbest thing ever. Yeah. I actually think that Jordan Love, if you didn't have Matt LaFleur, would probably be struggling more.
Yeah. Imagine Malik Willis without Matt LaFleur. Yeah. Exactly. Max, another question for you.
AJ Green. Brown. AJ Brown, different color, reading a book on the sidelines. What what book was it, and why was he reading it?
It was a motivational book. I will pull it up. I will pull up his tweet because he addressed it via x, the everything app. Everything happens on x.
He is the
media. He he is the media. I am struggling to find his Twitter.
What the fuck?
He has some it's some oh, there it is. Wait. No. This isn't it. I'm gonna find
it. Yeah. Inner excellence, achieve extraordinary business success through mental toughness. And he says you he reads it. What are
you looking for? He's like
His quote Yeah. About it?
I tweeted about it. About it. Why can't I
find this? Way farther into a book than LeBron ever has been.
That's a fact. Right? I'm enjoying Max. I mean, I why can't I find
his fucking Twitter?
This is bad. Memes, do you
wanna help him? 1 k always open.
Yeah. I know that.
Memes memes and hanker
This is a fake 1, though,
which I also enjoy. It's a it's a good thing that you're struggling this much because, like, if Would you like me to read it for you?
Did you find it?
I'd be worried if you weren't struggling this bad. I'd be like, man, this guy might be worried about play calling.
Yeah. That's a good point.
But it's clear that not. You're not worried about play calling because you're not flustered at all through this whole packers, eagles recap. Got it. No. Okay.
Alright.
You're reading? Yeah. This game is 90% mental and 10% physical for me. I bring it to every game, and I read it between each drive. I use it to refocus and lock in despite what may transpire in the game, good or bad.
People tend to create controversy when they don't know the truth.
Can I can I have
a I
have a question question? When he said good or bad, which 1 do you think it was today?
Good. They won the game. But you do you
think AJ Brown was having a good time today?
Yeah. They won. They won a playoff game.
Okay. Do you
think he's have a good time with the play calling?
Yeah. No. I he's probably he looks, like, happy in this postgame interview. I don't know what he's saying, but he looks happy. He doesn't look mad.
Mhmm. So yeah. No. It was good. So
3 targets for AJ Brown. 1 catch 10 yards.
1 win. Okay.
Do you
think it's always this book?
It says that it's this book.
Or is
it very so he's been reading it
as well.
I mean, this book, that doesn't look like a LeBron book.
That's a well worn book.
Yeah. We need a we need a we need a book report from you on that.
He also has highlighted passages, underlined passages. He he really loves this book.
But I'm just wondering if he was if he had a 100 yards and a touchdown and Kellam Moore was just calling a great game and all that stuff. Do do you think he goes to the
book? Yeah. No. Or do
you think he, like, high fives and, like, cheats? He probably
goes to therapy and, like, they they That's not what
that's not what I asked.
I don't know. I wasn't really paying attention. I was reading the quotes.
Alright. I'll ask the question again. And then maybe you can read the quote for us. If AJ Brown had a 100 yards and a touchdown and 9 catches, do you think he's reading the book, or do you think he's, like, having fun on the sideline?
Well, I don't know if you heard what I said. He said transpire in the game good or bad.
Right. But he might have just put the word good in there and really meant bad.
No. See, you're so you're calling him a liar?
No. I'm just saying he might have.
He also may not have.
That's also true. Yeah. Everything's on the table right now when we're discussing this book. Correct.
I have a question, Max.
You have the monthly mental take
the man for his word.
Okay.
What's up pit stain guy over there?
Do you think do you think the game is 9 Max never having pit stains. Come on, Max.
That was a bad Come
on, Max. I mean,
your ass crack is probably showing right now.
Yeah. Not pit stains.
Do you think 90% mental, 10% physical is a good breakdown
for him. Yes. Laugh means
his ass.
He said before. My ass is Yeah.
His ass is out for sure. Me just watching it. Yeah.
I gotta cheer. I'm not sure that the whole physical put together in this thing is the battle you wanna pick with anybody, Max, because you yeah. Your butt gets a lot of screen time.
Like, you can't even
see it.
I'm I got a back to
this chair.
Would you like in a game like this where he is limited how many catches did
he have?
He had 1 catch, 3 targets.
Would you rather he maybe cranks it up to 15% physical?
We won the game. 10%. We won the game.
Win the game. So looking ahead, besides your issues with the play calling, what do you need to fix going into next week?
Jalen Hurts will be less rusty. So just, like, getting more reps in practice this week will be good. Mhmm.
I agree
with that.
We'll have 1 extra day of practice that our opponent will not have. That'll be helpful. What if
they're like, Jalen Hurts, like, was so bad they wish to put him back in the protocol? Just double that bad. 111 wasn't good.
111 11 quarterback rating,
you would die for that Okay. In a playoff game. Yeah. But he wasn't, like
Threw 2 touchdowns.
Okay. Won
the game. When we needed when we needed to ice the game, he let a great drive to that finish with the Dallas Goedert touchdown.
Okay.
Alright. So, Max, who do you want? Vikings or the Rams?
Good question.
That is a good question.
Call someone out.
That is if I had to chew I'm I you know what? I you gotta be good teams.
No. No. Don't cop
it out.
No. But that's what you that's what if I were to answer that question, that's what you would say.
Just tell us what team you want. Lead with that. Yeah. I would lead
with that.
You you want you'll you'll play whoever wins. Put butt gun to my head.
Butt Gun to my head, if you had to tell me that I had to pick a team, I would
I would pick
the Rams. Really? We handled the Rams in that first game. They their defense could not stop with a run. Saquon won for, like, 2.
That's right. I forgot about that.
And the
Rams' offense has looked bad. I don't know I don't know how they're gonna be tonight.
And they would have to travel from LA to to Philly in the cold.
Well, actually, they travel Arizona to LA to Philly. True. Yeah. Okay.
Think the Rams are gonna win tomorrow.
But Okay.
I think that given my thought process, I would say that I would like
I don't know where I'm going. I think it's I'm just saying
words. Yeah.
See, who's
happy with the play calling?
Who who knew that, like, the a simple question of are you happy with the play calling would just lead us to And if whatever's happened in the last 15 minutes.
No. It was condescending.
It was a question. This is my job as a member of the media to ask those tough questions, Max.
It's so clear you're upset about the play calling.
Just say it. I'm happy with a win, and you can learn you can you can go back, look at the tape, and learn from things. Everything is a learning a learning experience, and we will learn from this and be better for next week.
Okay.
Okay.
I appreciate that.
Well, thank you for beating the packers.
And Jalen Hurts will be less rusty.
Yes. Thank you for beating the packers.
Pat Joe Owens too.
No. That those are 2 separate things.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
What would you grade the packer season? I would say
a b. No way. Way worse than that.
They're The the people were
picking them for the Super Bowl
They were.
For the Shrager.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. RIP to the Shrager streak. Yeah. They kinda got dealt a bad hand, though, with the, the injuries.
Yeah. But we'll equals 1 games.
I guess yeah. Okay. So if you're looking at it, like, just straight up grid as a whole, the outcome of the season, yeah, probably yeah. Definitely worse than a b. I'm saying It's b b.
Given what they were deal dealing with today. I'd say overall
It's probably a b because they they are the youngest roster. C plus. They're the youngest roster in the NFL. It's like, what would you grade it under, like, a regular if you laid it all out and you didn't say this is the Green Bay Packers? I think Packers fans are different because they, like, they're used to winning playoff games and, you know, that kind of thing.
So they
they grade it differently. But if you laid out all the facts, took the the logo
off the helmet, you'd probably say b. Say b minus, c plus.
They're gonna fucking be good next year. I just know it. I just know it. They're just gonna they always just draft someone who's just like, how'd this guy get good? And it's just like, oh, and Jaden Reid's gonna be the best receiver somehow.
Christian want well, Christian Watson, I think, is ACL. But, they just I just know it. And Josh Jacobs is good.
Very good.
Really, really good. But Jordan Love's not good. I think he's good. Go to bed thinking that. No.
He's not. Max, he backed
me up. He was so that that pick to Zac Vaughn was horrific. Horrific. It was a her I don't know. Egregious.
How do you just not see the guy right in the middle of your of your vision? Yeah.
I don't know. You just
you just threw it right to him.
Well, he doesn't run RPOs and play actions. He's not, like, as a straight up pocket passer. I just don't I'm I haven't been overly impressed.
Also, shout out to Philly for the sax guy playing the national anthem.
Oh, god. Vanya Sax?
Vanya Sax. Vanya Sax. That guy that guy can get it.
That was incredible. Not in his that sounds sexual. No. I mean, that's fine. The saxophone is the most sexual instrument by far.
And they just let Gilly, like, come out with the team. Yeah. Like, those videos are so funny.
And the bald eagle. Oh, what a scene. Yeah. Max is replaying it. That was a really bad interception.
You can't throw that 1. Alright. Did you guys you guys you guys didn't score off that, though? Oh,
that wait. No. We did
Is it at the end of the second quarter? Because halftime was 10
Oh, yeah. Why didn't?
Why didn't you score? Was it the play calling?
No. It wasn't it was just
It's unrelated to the play calls.
It was just a bad it
was just a bad
What were the play calls after that?
It was incomplete, incomplete. Mhmm. Penalty. Penalty. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. I was
a penalty. It was a penalty.
You can't have penalties.
But first down, incomplete. Yeah. 2nd down, incomplete.
Well, it looks like the penalty came on 4th and 4, so that actually didn't matter.
Yeah. No penalty.
And you remember how like, the push the offensive line was getting from the running game?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. The, Elton Jenkins going out for the packers.
Again, that's like, they they robbed me of everything because they just got it. The the guy who came in, how many holds did he end up having? It was just every every drive. He was just getting killed. Okay.
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Okay. PFT. Yep. Commanders, $23.20. What a fucking game.
A crazy game. This is every commander's game is like this. Every single 1 comes down to the end.
I was gonna actually ask you this. Mhmm. We talk a lot about the chief's voodoo. Yeah. The commanders have the most voodoo, and it's a good thing.
They just have, like I don't wanna say team of destiny. But I watching that game, especially the and we'll we'll break down the whole game. But, like, when the Bucks kicked a field goal to tie it 20 to 20, and there was 4 and a half minutes left. And this is part voodoo and part the fact that Jaden Daniels is just fucking awesome. I turned to Jersey.
Jerry was sitting next to me. I said, Bucs aren't getting the ball back. Yeah. And that's exactly what happened.
That's what we do. We we had a, like, a 17 play drive in the 1st or second quarter. Yeah. We didn't punt again today. Yeah.
Because when when it comes to 4th down, we either get 4th downs or we go for it and we don't convert them. And then we find ourselves, like, 1 minute later back in that same exact 4th down situation. And there's something about coaches named Dan that are just like, fuck it. We're gonna go for it. If it's Dan Quinn, if it's Dan Campbell Dan Lanning did that this year too, where you just get ultra aggressive.
But I I didn't have a problem even when it didn't work out that Dan Quinn kept going for it because that's what we've done all year. And
we've said it a 1000000 times with the Dan Campbell stuff, consistency. Yeah. If he had pussied out and kicked a field goal on the second 1
Yeah.
You'd be like, dude, you can't just do you can't go for it, go for it, go for it, and then kick it. Keep going for it, and something good will happen.
Yeah. You go for it. You don't get it. You pin them deep. And then if you get a turnover, you're at least deep in their territory.
Yeah. But yeah. It's like they pushed everything to the limit of how close they could make this game. And there's something about Jaden. He does not show emotion.
Sometimes he smiles during play. Yeah. I was
just saying his only emotion is happiness.
But usually, he just doesn't have any emotion whatsoever.
Yeah.
If you see the clip of him reacting to the game winning field goal at the end of this game, he's on the sidelines and he he doesn't even smile. He just sits there and it doinks in, and then he gets up. And then, like, 5 seconds after it goes in, he starts tapping people up. But the dude he's like they say that that, Joe Burrow, what his, like, high school basketball coach, told his parents, like, you're lucky that he loves sports because if he didn't, you might have a Dexter on your hands.
Yeah.
Like, he might actually be a killer. Jaden is kind of the same way during a game. He just he he never gets too excited, Never get the moment's never too big for Jaden, which is crazy to say as a rookie. But he is he's going to be him. And who he is is just fucking awesome.
Yeah. So watch this clip here. Doinkzen.
He's just, like, okay. Cool. We won the game. Yeah. Nice.
We won.
Which is and so the the Chiefs thing, which is, my favorite team plays today, I'm going to kill myself. Oh, nice. We won. I had memes whip up a commander's version. The commander's version is, like, in the middle.
It's just this game is really close. Holy shit, Jaden Daniels is good. And then at the end, nice we won.
He's gonna do something awesome and we're gonna win this game.
Somehow, this this happens every week. Again, goes back to the question of are the commanders a good team? I still don't know how good we are.
I think Jaden Daniels is a good team.
I think he is a good team. I think Jaden Daniels is the best team I've ever rooted for in my life.
He's a really good team. I it was I mean, the fact let's just, the elephant in the room. The the the doink in just was so appropriate for, like, the the where the bear stand and where the commander stand is 2 franchises that, like, it had to be a doink in. But Who's going to kick in? I I was was just sitting there, like, I can't believe that that you got the doink in.
But Jay Daniels is just I like, watching it, I never when they got the ball back with 4 and a half minutes, it's like, he's going to drive them down the field, and they're gonna win this game with a walk off field goal. I said it to Jerry. I said it in my head. The 4th in 1 play where he was dead to rights and he finds a way to get that first down, like, he's just special. I don't know what else to say.
Like, he's special, and I think his specialness rubs off on the entire team where it's like, maybe they're not the most talented group, but when you got a guy like that, your confidence gets to a different level.
Yeah. And you know that, like, the the inches that are all around us? Yeah. Like, he gets those inches.
Yeah.
Jaden Daniels leads the league in inches all around him
Yeah.
That he acquires.
Yeah.
And, there's every time something like this happens, I still have a part of my brain that has to think if Dan Snyder was still the owner, there's no chance that ball bounces in. Right. Bounces in. And something interesting about the, the commander's playoff history. So this is their first playoff win in 19 years since 2006, January 26.
Against the Bucks. Right. Against the Bucks. The, previous playoff game before that, I believe, was 1999, and it was also against the Bucks. And that was Dan Snyder's 1st playoff game as owner.
We're down 1413 kicking a field goal at the end of the Q4, botched the snap, everything goes to shit, game over. And this, Josh Harris' first game as owner, the ball bounces off the upright and somehow goes in. Yeah. Like, they just good vibe. There's been good vibes around this team all season long where just the smallest shit tends to break our way when we need it the most.
And I don't know. I don't know how else to explain it. I I'm so happy getting to watch Jaden Daniels. And also, Terry McLaurin, another great game for him. And our defense, we just stepped up, and now we're, like, medium defense.
Marshawn Lattimore got cooked.
You gotta get you gotta get medium plus.
We do get yeah. Medium plus. A lot of places don't say medium plus exists. Marshawn Lattimore got cooked in the first half by Mike Evans. But still, I think he was held under a 100 yards somehow.
But this team is there's just something about him that I love watching. I don't know if they're good, but they're great.
No. It's it's Jaden Daniels. Yeah. Like, it I the new owner thing, obviously, I want a new owner so bad, basically, on all the teams. But Jaden Daniels is that guy.
Like, he's the guy that I I really do believe in it. Like, in sports, like, if you have a guy like Jaden Daniels, everyone plays a little bit better. Yeah. Everyone plays a little bit better than their talent level because
of him. You think you can win?
Right. And you think you you you you're thinking the same thing I was thinking where it's like, they're gonna they're gonna win this game. They're gonna go down the field. They're gonna win this game.
I felt good about the game from the very first drive that we had. And even on defense, when we held him to a field goal right off the bat, the but then we got the ball in our hands, and we're moving the ball. And it was like, this is exactly how I saw it playing out, which is Todd Bowles is gonna try to blitz a lot, and Jaden is a different quarterback than who we saw in week 1.
Mhmm.
He's more decisive. He's gonna be able to take off and run when he has to. But also, more importantly, he's gonna hit guys in the middle of field when he has to. And he played he played a great game. Our running game was virtually nonexistent because stuffed everything.
V to v is just a mountain of a human being. He's 1 of my favorite players. He's he's great. And every time we kept trying to run it up the middle. And Brian Robinson is the last person that you should be asking to run against defense like that because he hates bounce into the outside.
Yeah. Brian Robinson, if he gets the ball, he wants to run at somebody's face and run him over for, like, 2, 3 extra yards and, like, soften him up over the course of the game. You're not gonna soften Vitavail up. No. He's untenderizable.
Yeah. This is where this is the point of the program. I'm very happy for you, PFT. That was an awesome game. The Doinkan, incredible.
Jaden Daniels, like, he is that guy. This is the part of the program, though, where Max tells you,
All the stuff. Yeah.
If if Baker Mayfield doesn't fumble a snap, that game
is I was gonna lead off
Well, there's 1 other.
I was gonna lead off by saying, he didn't throw any interceptions, so I don't know what I'm supposed to talk about right off the jump.
Well, the center also just
Coming up to my own.
Ball is way too you got you had 3 plays that just were it it's I was really going off that it's team of destiny.
I'd rather be lucky than good.
Yeah. No. I'm I it it there's a voodoo or what Big Cat said is exactly what I was
Right.
It's a good voodoo.
Everything just goes the the Commander's way. And trust me, I am the biggest Commanders fan this weekend. Yeah. I I want the Commanders to win.
Yeah. I can't I can't have Max Max, you can't
Oh, an NFC championship with the Eagles. Why?
What you're rooting against for Jerry Goff?
Yeah. He sounds like this.
I'm rooting for my friend PFT.
No. No. Interesting. I I can't have Max's stink on this team. Too bad.
I I ban you from cheering for the commanders. Would I rather go to Detroit or have
the commanders come to Philly?
I thought you play whoever you play.
Would I rather go to Detroit?
You gotta beat good teams.
You gotta beat playoff teams.
Do not care about our friend, Jared.
I care about my friend PFT.
You don't care about me, me, and that's fine.
And Dan Quinn.
Yeah. Friend of the program. Yeah. What about Dan Campbell, friend of the program?
I care about him too.
I'm on Ross Saint Brown. Yep. Friend of the program. Dan Quinn. Detroit Donnan super fan.
So Friends of the program.
Max, we we we did get some breaks today. They got some breaks too. It happens to Alyssa. But, also, if okay. If they fumble a snap and, they don't get a a 3rd down conversion, then guess what?
You still have to go win the game.
You know, I Like,
we're we're good enough. Here's here's where where we're at. We're not a great team. We're good enough, and Jaden is good enough to take advantage of every miss. If you give him a window, he will find a way to win a game at the end.
Jaden Daniels is good is good as fuck. Like, really, really good.
Good as fuck? The the the commanders were better than the Bucks today. And the Bucks, there's 2 things. 1, Todd Bowles, I don't know what happens in his brain, but he somehow fucked up the clock on the end of the first half and the end of the game. Mhmm.
Like, the end of the first half didn't end up mattering because he scored a touchdown, but that guy's brain just freezes. And then you have, I don't know, the 3rd best quarterback statistically this season. Just talking statistics. So not not doing a debate on, like, you know but, like, Lamar, Josh, Baker. Those 3 Sam Darnold maybe.
So 4. Top 4 statistical season this year. Burrow. Burrow. Fuck.
5. Alright. Fuck. 5. Baker had an incredible year is what I'm trying to say.
He threw the ball 18 times. I don't understand what they were doing.
Yeah.
And it was partly because the commanders did a great job of keeping the ball out of the Bucks' hands. The the commanders had the ball for 35 minutes. Minutes. But I don't understand how he's not throwing the ball more
than that.
Well, Bucky was also running with the ball pretty well.
He was, but Baker's your guy. Like, that's your guy. That's your dog. I know he had some runs too, so there's probably more pass plays called. But Todd Bowles is just he freezes.
I don't know what the fuck goes on
with that. Did you did you hear his speech or his interview that he gave out of halftime?
No. Can we play that? Was it just as uninspiring as I imagine it to be?
He he got so confused. I forgot which was left and which was right. Yeah. Like, listen to his explanation here.
Gotta get him in on 3rd long yard. He's gotta win first down and he'd get that to pocket to his left, to his our left. His left. His left. I mean, our left, his right.
I mean Gotta cut that down. This guy just panicked.
What what side was he telling his defense? Our left.
Their left.
No. But his left. Their left. He said his left. Our left.
He doesn't know left from right.
He he he's just I mean, he was so lost with the time out situation. Mhmm. He had no idea what to do.
The what he did at the end of the first half was 1 of the more puzzling things I've ever seen. Yeah. Is letting the how how many seconds did he lose?
Like, 17 seconds. He was just like, fuck it.
Then we'll
call a time out. I mean, again, this was the commander's win. It was a special night for the commanders, but Todd Bowles, like, what are you doing, dude? He just can't be in those pressure moments. Yeah.
And that's I mean, the the Bucks woah. What do we grade their season? I would say They did they did have both their quarterbacks get hurt. Well, I think 1 was hurt going into the game, then the other 1 got hurt.
So Mhmm.
But you guys also had some injuries on quarterback. Right?
So you're No.
Yeah. We're we're we're a little bit
banged up. Marshall Latimore is injured, obviously. Yeah. I hope he's injured because otherwise, it's not it's not a very good performance out of a healthy Marshawn Lattimore given what we're paying him. But I I would give the Bucks a b.
You won your division. Baker's awesome. Baker's awesome.
That's really what it is. Like, Baker's awesome. Yeah. What?
I think PFT is just the teacher that just gives everybody a b.
B. No?
No. I gave the chargers an a minus. Well, we I gave the I gave the Broncos an a.
Regency buy something.
Yeah. Wait. So those are 2 a grades out of 4 that I've given up.
I know. I was just thinking of the last 1 of the packers. I mean, the packers didn't get it. I whatever.
Why are you why are you so angry with me today, Max?
Because he's he's been
coming out. Commanders fan.
Yeah. That's also not
You gotta unite this.
He's just he's just in the he's in playoff mode.
Yeah. That's
true. Playoff mode. He's in survival mode.
See, I fucking love the Commanders, and I love Jaden Daniels. And this season has been, an incredible gift, and I'm so excited about what's coming next. Next week, we can talk let's not talk about next week right now.
How about
that? You should not I don't wanna about the
Lions I'm
not gonna think about that. Thursday. Not gonna think about the Lions.
Like,
just enjoy this win. There's no
reason to think about the Lions. We're playing team x next week. Yeah. Who knows? They maybe their offense is bad.
Who knows?
Here's the thing lose. Here's the thing, PFT. Like, you don't think of the lions. Can I talk a little bit about it real quick?
Yeah.
You don't have to think about it. I won't. The lions are a way better team than the commanders. Do you know what the lions don't have? Jaden Daniels.
And something happens where I mean, they did a montage in the game of, like, crazy moments.
Yeah. And there have been some fucking crazy ones. The Bears game, obviously, the Cowboys game, which wasn't even him. He was on the sidelines in the second half cheering on Marcus Mariota. Yeah.
The Eagles game when he came back against that really, really good defense that the Eagles have Yep. And just shredded him. The Saints game the Saints game and the Falcons game.
Yeah.
Like, it it always comes down to the last minute with this guy. If we can get to the last minute against the Lions, I will be a very, very happy man.
Just get to the last minute. Yeah.
Shocked the world.
Yeah. Shocked the world. Shocked the world. Max is rooting for you.
Thank you, Max. That means a lot. Let's go, Commies. Let's go, Commies. Left hand up, Max.
Yep. So Jaden's I would I'm rooting for
you because I would love to see Eagles Commanders and a championship game. That would be numbers.
That would mean you guys taught me when the Patriots played the Rams. I you know, it's not right to root against our friend, Jared Goff. I'm I'm gonna root for the Lions based off what you guys said to me.
You know,
you're not here. You have
the commanders I don't even remember what you're talking about. Hank is Hank is all over the map with it. You know what your problem is, Hank? You have, like, conflicting allegiances due to your troll brain and your vet brain. And sometimes Sometimes they're winning the storm.
Sometimes that that's sometimes they
fight. Worried about that bet.
They might not, but Jaden Daniels might.
Yeah. They might just give them the Lombardi. Yeah. It's it's it's lions versus ravens. And they're like, before we give before we give this to the winner, James Daniels, please come on down.
I would take he he is the 1st rookie quarterback to win in the playoffs on the road since 2012, Russell Wilson. Don't ask who he played or where he played. And before that was Mark Sanchez, before that Joe Flacco, and then before that all the way back to 1976, Pat Hayden. Mhmm. So, I'm I'm gonna say it.
I'm gonna stamp my grade on the commander season already. A plus.
A plus plus.
A plus plus.
You want a playoff game with rookie quarterback?
Don't don't don't put a grade on it yet. Just Yeah.
It's it's on Still going. Yeah. It's still going.
It's yeah. But can it get higher?
Let's go win the let's go win this weekend. Let's do it, Max.
Give him a pump up, sir. Let's go. Yeah.
Did you see that play at the end where Kante tried to tackle Jaden from behind and grabbed his towel and then just kept sprinting towards Jaden with Jaden's full towel Yeah. In his hand?
Yeah. That was I mean, that that play was he was Chancey had him. Mhmm. And then he just didn't. He was playing flag football with him.
He was just running with his towel behind him.
He should he should have dropped the towel where he tackled.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. And the doink in. I can't believe it.
By the way, Zane Gonzalez does have OCD, so don't make fun of him.
He does. But that's his superpower.
Yeah. He He fixed his hair a 100 times getting ready for the kick.
And it's like the shortest hair ever. So when he kept fixing it, I was like, is there a bug on there?
But he actually does have OCD.
And his compulsion is that he has to split the uprights Yeah.
Or at least bounce
something into 1 of them.
He's gotta doink them in. I can't believe it doinked in. I did you think for a second it was not good when it Yes. They hit it? Yes.
I did too. I was like, oh, shit. I needed overtime for basically I mean, we should talk about it, Hank. That was the we all bet it. Yeah.
We had
the PMT. Me and PFT did the, parlay that Jaden Daniels, he we need 40 rushing yards from him on that last scramble.
He also had, like, 25 in the Q1.
Yeah. On that last scramble play, he got 40 yards. That was it last leg, and then he took the centering snap, kneeled it down. So we went from cashing it to losing it. All the 8 w l's that took it.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I'm I I feel it worse than you do.
It was it was, it was not So
I was rooting I was rooting for overtime.
Yeah. I was too because I had the over for
a lot. I was rooting hard for overtime.
And very clearly so that everyone can hear it, when people get mad at Big Cat and Hank and they're like, why aren't you happier for PFT? I don't need them to be happy for me. That's that's not your job to be happy. That's not your team that you're rooting for. Like, I understand, like, okay.
It's cool if your friend did something. Whatever. I'm happy with you for you right now. But if it comes to, like, if you
have a bet Yeah.
That's on the line, you're gonna root for that bet, and I would root for that bet in your in your position every single time.
Also, it would be the weirdest thing ever if Hank and I celebrated with PFT, like like, we were like, oh, we did it. You did it. Yeah. That would be bizarre. I always root for the commander.
When you have an your parlay in my nuke on the over, which was brutal.
Well, you know what? We are genuinely super, super upset whenever Max loses something.
That's true. I am always upset for Max.
Actually, you
know what? I Max has almost gotten
to the
point where now I would be happy for Max with them.
I was thinking about this.
I said the word almost very clearly.
Yes. I agree with that. Sorry. I missed the almost.
It's close. We're getting dangerously close to me being happy for Max with a win.
I was thinking about that the other day because I was like, if he if the Eagles go to Super Bowl, blah blah. I actually put a Hank has money on the Eagles with the Super Bowl either as well. The You're all Hank's just all
over the map. Yeah.
He's got other bills too. The yeah. The only team Hank this
is where the troll bring the only team Hank didn't have a Futron was the chargers.
No. No. I have $100 on the Commanders from, like, the beginning of the season. When I went on a heater 2 weeks ago, I have 5 grand. It's the biggest bet I ever placed on the Eagles.
Okay. And then I have, like, some other Futures that are, like, Bills to win the conference and Eagles to win the conference. But they'll like, the Eagles future is the biggest bet I think I've ever made. Yeah.
Should we all just declare And if they just make it
to the fucking Super Bowl, I'm cashing out. I'll say that right now.
Should we
all declare After I bet it, I hate it. Are are are gambling allegiances? Yeah. Get them out in the open?
I have Anyone but the Chiefs.
What if they play the Chiefs? Will you keep it?
Yeah. I've I don't know.
I have set I hate you so much.
I had the I had the chargers. Obviously dead. I've Pardon? I have, no apology because you you flip flopped.
I know.
You did flip flopped. I did flip flopped. And I have a, Ohio state to win the national title and the eagles, to win the Super Bowl parlay that's, like, 12 to 1. That would be a significant hit. And I have not if anyone has an idea of who I should bet on to win, NCAA basketball player of the year, let me know.
Okay. I would like to place a bet bet on someone.
Eric Dickson is really underrated.
From where?
From Villanova.
Oh, no way. About it. I would not. No. I have No.
Is he really good?
He's awesome. Awesome. Leads the country in scoring.
In scoring?
They just beat Yukon.
They just beat Yukon? Yukon. Wait. He leads the country in scoring? Yep.
I'm not gonna bet on that guy. But tell me more about how good he is.
He's so good. He is so good. And it just Villanova's coming on strong too at the right time. We don't have to talk about what happened this weekend.
It's football season, man.
But they're trending in the right direction. So, like, really, really low.
Eric what's
Eric Dixon from Villanova.
And he's he could be the best he
could He he
is he
like the high for college basketball?
Yes. Yes.
How's that voted on?
It's the best player in the country, and he is the best player.
I don't think I'm gonna bet on that, but I would like an update, every show on on how he's doing, if he's doing well.
I also have Celtics, Barcelona, and he
goes. Nashville.
So I'm just gonna get that out there.
I just
wanna get that on there.
Alright. Fine. We'll we'll empty a clip.
Okay. I've got the Buffalo Bills,
also Lyons, and Hideki Matsuyama to win
the match. What?
I've got I got the Buffalo Bills, Lamar Jackson, and then Manchester United to be relegated, but that money goes to chief, which could be worth $10, and then the Washington Capitals to win the Stanley Cup.
I have just currently, the eagles and the Ohio State Buckeyes, both to win, Parlayed. I have, Utah to win the national championship this year.
What sport? Football. Okay.
You don't know. They haven't crowned 1 yet. I've got Oregon. Still pending. You never know.
Still pending. And then I have, Yukon in basketball 19 to 1. That's just a respect. Respect. They I won it the last 2 years.
I had to do it again.
Here's a fun stat real quick from this is from Optostats. In NFL history, there have been 3 instances of a team having 0 turnovers and 0 punts in a game behind a rookie starting quarterback.
Woah.
All 3 were by Jaden Daniels and the Commanders.
Week
2, week 3, and tonight. Damn. That's fucking insane.
That is insane.
I love this guy.
That is insane.
I love I love him so far.
You gonna say?
He's so good.
He turned it over on downs twice.
Oh. 0, that doesn't count. It's not it's not a quarterback
mention the baker fumble.
Well, I didn't say that has nothing to do with that stat.
No. Oh, you're oh, you oh, you're specifically talking about this stat. Correct. Okay. Well, hey, Max.
How about this? If we kick field goals every time on 4th down, then that Baker fumble doesn't really mean anything.
But you didn't, and then you failed.
Yeah. But you're you're taking away turnovers for the Bucks, but not taking away turnovers for the Commanders.
They they were just unforced they were just unforced errors.
We won the game.
No. I I the the commanders deserve to win that game. The command all I wanted to say was that the commanders have, like Voodoo. Some weird voodoo going on.
They do.
Yeah. That, like, things break their way at the end of games, which is good. But that is that isn't a that isn't, like, an insult to the commanders. That is I I would love a team for that to be my team. Mhmm.
No. You
That's a good thing.
You're right that we do have that, and Adam Peters gets a lot of credit too for the just complete roster turnaround that's happened. Just all new guys. Dan Quinn's done a great job. I'm just I'm the happiest I can remember being as a football fan maybe ever. Maybe maybe ever.
If we're talking about arrows, we're doing the arrow
game.
This has gotta be better than RG 3 now.
Yeah. I mean, the the wild card game that year
Yeah. It was as disastrous as it could. Yeah. Right. See, that this was, like, the final Yeah.
Jaden Daniels has to well, actually, holy shit. That fucking low low hit on Jaden Daniels, that that looked bad.
Jaden and I agreed to turn injuries off at the start of this game. And that 1 this is now 2 games, not 2 games in a row because the Falcons game and then this 1 wears knee bends. And you're like, fuck. This is it. And then he just stands up.
Yeah. Just, like, not injured. But, yeah, this is this is way better than 2,005 because we had Mark Brunell who was, like, 46 years old. And that's the only other playoff win that I can remember. Yeah.
Except for the Super Bowl. I remember that.
91. The, yeah, man. It was an incredible game. Jaden Daniels. He's special.
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Who do we think is gonna win Monday Night Football? I don't know. Anyone got an idea? I I do think it's like, the fact they're playing in Arizona is weird. Go ahead.
I think I think the Vikings should win, but I also think that Sean McVay. And that's the end of that sentence.
And Sam Darnold,
I'm a little nervous. I just think Sean McVay, I would not bet against him in the playoffs.
Yeah. With all this, the obviously super tragic stuff going on in LA, do you think it, like, is more Team of Destiny vibes or, like, distraction vibes that's gonna affect them negatively?
Well, PFT said it last week when he was like, why didn't the Rams try to win that game to get a better seed? And he was like, what's up what's up with that? And Sean McVay's done that before. I think that's what the year they won the Super Bowl. Yeah.
I feel like he knows he like, he's got a good team.
Yeah. I think he knows something. He knows something because on paper, you should have tried to win that game. Wind horse. Wind horse.
Why did he do that? Why did he do that? Why did he feel so confident rolling Jimmy Garoppolo out there?
Mhmm.
It's because he he knew either 1 that resting his guys was more important than whoever they played. Yeah. Or because he sees some weird voodoo matchup.
Yeah. I I have no idea with this game. I feel like whatever side I'm gonna bet is to
be wrong.
But I also have to root against the Rams.
But he also didn't know who he would be playing Right. In that opening game. It could have been the Lions. Right. Or maybe he just knew that the Lions were gonna rule the Vikings.
Right. Who knows? But, I'm sure I'll have some degree of, like, super confidence in whatever I choose to gamble on tomorrow.
Oh, for sure. Yeah. Oh, I'm gonna be like, fuck yeah. I'm right. I I just can't I can't get that Sam Darnold.
It is stupid. I can't get the week 18. And that was also just the Lions' great defensive game plan, but what if the Rams have a great defensive game plan?
They did with Sam Darnold.
Yeah. They beat him already this year.
That was grab his face mask when the refs
not Yeah. That sure know. But that was a game that the the I don't think Sam Darnold played very well against the Rams when they played earlier this season. Is that not am I imagining that? I just remember that was a game that Puka was coming back, and it was like, oh, shit.
Is he gonna start? Oh, yeah. He is gonna start. And, he's
gonna have a 106 yards.
Yeah. And he's gonna be awesome. He's gonna catch every single ball. Yes. Sam Darnold, he was okay in that game.
He wasn't bad.
So Matt Stafford is very good against the blitz. He's 1 of the best quarterbacks against the blitz.
That's what I remembered.
Yeah. But, also, we can agree that Matt stat not all pressures are created equally.
But he also just had a week off. He he can't really move that well. Maybe he's healthy again.
Yeah. It could be.
Maybe he spent the week off at Alo. He's feeling good.
Maybe a little Daniel Jones, 2 headed monster. With with Sam Darnold? Yeah. Mix him in there. Yeah.
They'll never see him coming. Room. Yeah. It's a great room.
That's a great room.
If we're going off rooms
I need I I I need at least 10 minutes on the broadcast talking about that room.
That room is in 1 seed.
Yeah. For sure. For sure. The Ohio State Buckeyes beat the Texas Longhorns on Friday night. Was a great game.
So much for the people saying that the college football playoff expanded playoffs suck. They basically they they had us in the first half. Mhmm. But the first round looked bad. Ratings were bad for Who the fuck cares?
I don't.
Says something.
Not to me. I mean, I
I heard some people saying that they're dragging the season out too long. I'm fine with dragging the the football season's longer.
I do think college football should end a little bit earlier just naturally. Like, I I think it's weird the national championship is gonna happen after the divisional round of the NFL. Yeah. But I yeah. I I mean, I I've never I've never, watched a a a playoff game or any game and enjoyed the hell out of it.
And then afterwards been like, damn. The ratings were bad. Mhmm. Maybe I didn't like it.
Sure. Ratings don't matter.
I mean, they they just don't matter to my enjoyment of the game. No. Like, I enjoyed the hell out of that game. I thought it was a great game. Ohio State, it was like Will Howard was awesome in that first drive and then and then he was not.
And, they were like, there was that moment where you're like, shit. Is Ohio State gonna, like, fuck this up? Are they gonna Ryan Dade up? That screen past the end of the half, I don't I still don't know how that happened. I don't know how you blitzed in that situation if you're Texas.
And then it all came down to the, 1st and goal series that Sark play calling has been questioned over and over.
Yeah. When they ran the toss play out to the left, where they went backwards about 4 yards.
Mhmm. I don't
know why you do that. Don't really get it. We should say, though, Caleb Downs made a great play on it.
Caleb Downs is a heat seeking missile on that play.
Caleb Downs has been doing that all season long.
He
take he takes the perfect angle every single time. He's a great player. So, yeah, a great player made a great play on a bad play call.
Yeah.
How about that? Yeah. Texas had a chance going at the end. They just made more plays. Texas, the better team won.
Jeremiah Smith was not really part of it.
He was not No. He shut him down.
Which is crazy to say, like, just throw the ball to Jeremiah Smith every single time because you probably could do that. But text I don't know if Texas took him out of the game.
No. Texas defense balled out.
And Ohio State does have other good wide receivers. Yeah. And they made plays.
Yeah. No. Texas defense was was phenomenal in that game outside of the screen pass at the end of the first half, which was horrific. I I said it before the game. I'm I'm over the Quinn Ewers experiment.
No offense to him. He's like it's a perspective thing because I I do think Quinn Ewers had a great college career. He's taken Texas to the semifinal in back to back years, which if you said that to a Texas fan 5 years ago, 10 years ago, you're like, fuck. Sign me up. I also think Texas does this weird thing where, like, they're comparing everyone to college Vince Young, and you don't you can't really get better than college Vince Young.
Mhmm. So it's like, if that's the standard, you every you're gonna be disappointed forever in the quarterbacks you have. But
I just Even Cole McCoy never reached college Vince Young.
Right.
So He's
a great quarterback.
It's an impossible standard. I just Quinn Ewers is a good quarterback. I just don't know if he's, like, that that extra step of getting you again, it's we're talking about perspective here. Like, it's talking about getting you to the national championship, which he's a really good quarterback. I just don't know if he's I I would've I wonder how good Arch Manning's gonna be.
That's kinda what I'm getting at. If Arch Manning is good next year, will Sark look back and be like, hey. Probably fuck that up.
I think this was important for Sark to to show Quinn Ewers that he had his back. Yeah.
I understand
that. Because everybody was saying put an arch, and I was saying it too. Like, if you have if you're looking for a couple yards, you have a quarterback that can move. And, also, he's definitely a threat to pass, but like, much more capable of picking up a couple yards in a running game than Quinn would be. I don't know why you wouldn't put him in.
But I think that Sark had some weird, like, blood oath with Quinn Ewers. It's like, you're my guy. I'm not We're bringing Arch in probably when they first signed Arch. Yeah. Here's a Quinton.
I wanna let you know, I wanna give you my word that he's not coming here to take your job. And we're not gonna play into any of that. There's gonna be a lot of media talk. The fans are gonna say we want Arch. This is you.
This is me talking to you, and I give you my word. You're my guy. Yeah. I think this was Sark, like, fulfilling on that when he did have something that he could've done that probably would've given a slightly better chance to win.
Cooler than that is winning a semifinal game going to the national championship.
Also correct.
Yeah. Also, I'm very happy for Jack Sawyer because he's obviously been, the butt of a lot of jokes going all and for against Michigan, the whole flag thing. He has been phenomenal in these playoffs. He's stepped it up a level in that. It was, like, the slowest fumble return ever, but it was also, like it actually was kinda cool how slow it was.
He was gassed after about 15 yards.
Yeah. Because you could you you like, Ohio State fans got to celebrate for about 17 minutes as he ran down
the field. For you, was it did you, like, see it in the moment and think to yourself, this is an all time Ohio State highlight? Like Yeah. It's perfect for him.
Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know if you knew this. He's from Columbus.
Yeah. Yeah. And Jack Sawyer, he is. And Jack Sawyer was not the reason why they lost to Michigan. He actually made the play that should have been, like, the crowning moment for him to beat Michigan with that interception.
So Ohio State looks awesome. That was a great, great game. And I do think that, like so the college football expanded playoff, the people who were upset about it, and I get it. The 1st round did suck. There's a chance.
I don't know what it would have totally worked out because they would have judged things differently in a 14 playoff. But there's a chance that Notre Dame and Ohio State wouldn't even been in the playoff in a 14 playoff. There's a chance. Because it it it they could have gone Oregon in, what? Texas in, Georgia in.
Yeah. And then maybe Penn State. Although, it Ohio State probably would've jumped. I I don't know how they would've
would've jumped the loser of the SEC championship game.
Or the big 10. So it might've been both teams.
But If Texas had lost that game like they did Yeah.
Then I
think Ohio State maybe would've jumped.
But I more than anything, like, I know that the the argument yeah. What was the final rankings? So Notre Dame would have been 3. Texas would have been 4. Penn State 5.
Ohio State 6. So according to the last rankings, Ohio State wouldn't have been in these playoffs.
Wait. This was AP. I didn't Okay. Let me pull
pull up the But
that also means that, yeah, 2 of the teams in the top 4 got beaten by those teams that
were like, maybe they get in. Maybe they wouldn't. I also think it's just so funny because understand there's, this is the college football playoff ranking. Yeah. So the actual college football rankings.
And, again, I don't know how they would've done it with, like, I think they took a little bit off of the the the championship games this year because of a 12 team and you knew everyone's gonna get in. But if you had gone a 14 playoff and used the rankings that they used, it would have been Oregon, Georgia, Texas, and Penn State. So Notre Dame and Ohio State would have been outside. That's your championship game. I don't know why.
I I understand people love the college football regular season, and they like every game mattering, and they like a Michigan ending Ohio State season. What other sport like, Ohio State got hot at the right time. That's what happens in sports.
I would never understand somebody who's a fan of a sport being upset that the sport uses a tournament at the end of the season to pick who the winner is.
To to play more games to find the best team.
Yeah. I'm I'm I'm okay with that on the record.
Yeah. So I, yeah, I mean, it it was I liked starting with the Arizona State Texas game, I know the Rose Bowls blow up, but it was a fun game to watch because it was, like, such a incredible game that Ohio State played. I feel like we've had 4 really good playoff games.
We have. And Oh, yeah.
And Notre Dame, Georgia was good.
Yeah. And in the championship, Ohio State, they seem they seem like they're the better team. Right? Would you agree?
Yes.
They seem to be the better team?
They are the better team.
Ohio State should beat Notre Dame unless Ryan Day does the weird Ryan Day thing that he did against Michigan.
Mhmm.
And if
there's a coach who's capable of bringing that out of Ryan Day Mhmm. I think it might be Lou Holtz Mhmm. To get him back into that mindset that he had where it's like we have to just outman him because he has something to prove. Right. He's got a fixation with Lou Holtz
Yep.
That he needs to figure out how to set aside going into this game. Yeah. And, also, Mark Skrum is a great coach too.
I I think Notre Dame they have to play, like, not a perfect game, but they can't make mistakes because Ohio State is just and I I'm not saying this as, like, don't play the game. Ohio State has more talent. Like, they have the most talented roster in college football. I don't think even Notre Dame fans would disagree with that. Notre Dame, though, they're just a tough ass team.
They what's what's their offensive line say? 4 quarters of fuck you football. Yeah.
I love that. Like, they
have a mentality, and they don't they kill themselves that if they keep the this game close and, you know, Ohio State, you know, has a little pucker of their asshole, they could absolutely win this game.
And, I mean, Texas got a little bit of push at times on that defensive line. Notre Dame's got a great offensive line.
Texas was I know it's the 28/14 was the final score. Texas was they score that touchdown. We're going into overtime probably. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Like, that was a that was as close as a 28/14 game could be. Mhmm. Very excited, though. We're gonna have booger on Wednesday's show to to break down NFL playoffs and, the national championships. So maybe he'll give us a pick.
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Yeah. So it's been a long, long few years. I've I've learned what it's like to be, you know, loser franchise and and not be excited on Sundays and kind of, like, expect losing, and and I learned a lot about the draft.
You learned a lot about the draft.
I wasn't I wasn't used to the x. We were winning and stuff. And What's the
what's the most important thing you learned about the draft?
That, you know, you you can't take the 3 best players. Like, the players get drafted, then you have to reassess.
You have
to wait. Yeah.
That was the big lesson I
learned last year. I think the big lesson you learned last year was that when you trade, your pick, you have to actually give it up.
Yeah.
Because that was the whole Yeah. When you were like, oh, we'll we'll get the number 1 pick, but we're not gonna give up the 3 pick.
Mhmm.
Yeah. And I know a lot of fans of the show, they always get mad. Like, oh, you just win. You win. You win.
You win. You win. It's so annoying. And it's like, now, you know, I've I've I've been in the basement. I've I've dealt with what what a lot of people that listen to the show and and you guys have dealt with for a long time, but they signed Mike Vrabel, and they're back.
They're they're they're on they're on the path. The path of glory is back.
Question. Yeah. By the way, congrats to our good friend, Mike Vrabel. Do you have anything to say to memes who has gone on a memes path Rampage. Against Mike Vrabel.
No. I mean, I think that's that's the beauty of of of football and sports is, like, memes, you know, can do his little trolling online and say these things on on x.com and the everything app. But, like, we'll see you on the field next year, and we'll see you on the field for the next 20 years.
Okay.
And and we'll let the talking let the talking play itself out there.
What about this take? And I'm gonna say this from an anonymous person online. Mike Vrabel is proof that 1 smart clock management moment in a nationally televised game buys you 5 to 10 years of NFL media thinking you're a great coach.
Memes meme that.
That's memes.
Memes? Also in this Hurt people hurt people.
Also, in this in this post, memes refers I think he's referring to me as being NFL media.
Memes? You're part of the NFL media that highlights this stuff and gaslights it.
Okay. So memes, you're not not mad.
No. It's whatever, man. There's
so we're in this together. Like, we we we we suffered through this season together,
and it's like, if you if you, you know, made it out of the trenches, I'd be happy for you. I would expect I would hope that you'd be happy for me.
No. Damn. Meme, I don't want you out of the trenches. I want you in the trenches. Memes.
And I want Mike Vrabel to suck. If my if you're listening to this Mike Vrabel, I want you to suck.
Memes is equally not mad about this as Max was about to play golf.
Yeah.
If you're listening to this Rex Ryan, you're not gonna get the job.
You're not getting the job.
Yeah. So memes, you're you're you're not bothered. You just started memes.
I'm extremely bothered.
Derek Henry's not walking through that door there.
Derek what?
Derek Prime Derek Henry
is not walking He's saying Mike Vrabel's a Derek Henry merchant.
Yeah. Hannah Ryan Tannehill merchant.
Oh, yeah. Stud. Get sweaty. He's a system coach.
But, no, it's it's been great. You know, Will and Taylor bustle with the boys guys. They obviously played for him. They they had a lot of glowing, glowing things to say about him, what, you know, people can expect. Players are gonna get, you know, called out, expected to, you know, play at a high standard, and and Vrabel expects everyone to to meet those standards.
And he's gonna right this ship and and get us back where we need
to be. He's gonna expect you to meet a certain standard too.
That's fine. That's great. I mean, that's Missoula is the same way. Like, that's that's championship mentality. That's that's what he should be.
I I I whatever he needs, whatever coach, whatever you need, I'm here for you. Okay. Congrats. Thank you. I'm excited for you, Hank.
Yeah. Great hire.
Who's your who's back?
My who's back of the week is the Philadelphia 70 sixers. Oh. Because they were they were threatening to leave town. Oh. They were gonna abandon Philly after all they've done for Philly.
And, the city of Philadelphia just came to an agreement to keep him around for a while. So congrats, Max.
They really suck.
Oh, no.
Oh, do you want them going?
No. No. They're they're staying in South Philly. They were they weren't going to Jersey. They were going to go to Center City Philadelphia, but now it's good because we're keeping all the stadiums right next to each other.
Yeah. You got that's a cool I love that about any city that does that where the stadiums are right across
the street from each other. District.
Yeah. Yeah. No. Just makes for a great tailgate scene. There's the big Xfinity Xfinity live mega bar in the middle of it.
It it's it's fun, but just I hear the word Sixers, and they're so bad. Like, they may not even make the play in game bad.
But they had 10 wins by Christmas.
Yeah. No. That did not spark anything, and Joel Embiid just never plays. Damn. They lost to the Magic today.
You made that whole video on Christmas.
That was fun. I I'll always have that.
You will always have Christmas. That was huge.
Yeah. I mean, they lost 3 out of their past 4. I mean, the Magic are winning team with the Pelican stink, the Suns stink.
But aren't you happy? Like, that's a major win. They're not leaving. They're not leaving town. Good.
Yeah. No. That's good. Cooper Fly.
I I
want I at this point, I I want them to get a top 6 pick so we get our so we have our pick next year.
Yeah. Mhmm. Cooper Fly.
Either who's back of the week is LeBron. Oh. He's back in the news. Have you heard about LeBron? I've seen it.
I'd still don't understand it. Alright. So LeBron was dancing to a Kendrick Lamar song like a month ago. And then Drake put out a song called Fighting Irish. And Drake has a tattoo of LeBron on his arm.
This is normal stuff.
Mhmm.
Has a tattoo of LeBron on his arm from when LeBron was a high schooler. Oh. When he was playing on a team that's called the Irish.
Okay.
And in that, he seems to throw some shots at LeBron being like, I know things about you. You shouldn't have been dancing to that song that called me a pedophile.
Okay.
Now DJ Akademiks went live and said that he is familiar with the accusations and that Drake does have some info about LeBron that he could put out. And now LeBron is probably very, very afraid to get credit to LeBron. He's done a of being, like, the most famous person in the world for the last 20 years. Mhmm. He's done a great job of not having any major huge scandals
Mhmm.
About him that have gotten brought to light until recently until very recently. So I don't I don't know what's gonna happen if Drake do you think Drake has, like, is he just lashing out because he got beat so bad? Has he has he handled getting defeated on a public stage worse than anyone else after, like, threatening to sue his own record label?
I I will say if if they were, like, best friends, which if he's got a tattoo of them, that would suck a little bit. Yeah. I don't know if they're best friends.
I would agree that, LeBron, if he was friends with Drake, should not have done that.
Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know I don't know their relationship.
Hank, what are your thoughts?
I think both. I mean, I think it's like star athletes. It's like I I think anyone that holds them to a higher standard there is is is crazy because there's been a million examples of like, athletes being somewhat scumbags and not the most loyal guy. So it's not like shocking. I'll never be shocked when I when you hear stuff like that.
It's like, yeah, no shit. That's, you know, every a lot of athletes are like that. There it's like Drake did, you know, it's ugly. It's like LeBron was dancing and now Drake's outing him and it's like, you know, everyone everyone everyone's get hurt people hurt people.
Hurt people hurt people.
And you're a Drake guy?
I'm not a Drake guy or a LeBron guy. So I don't really give a fuck. They can take they can both take each other down Yeah. For all I care. This is 1 of those things
that I was, aware that was happening, but I I didn't really there's football, and so I didn't really dig deep into it. But I'm sure I'm sure there's more that I'm gonna learn.
I to me, it seems like Drake is just trying to get it done.
LeBron also took that leave of absence, like, a month ago. That that was 1 that was my like, well, that kinda makes that make a little sense.
Lines up.
Yeah. He was up in Canada banging horse. That's a Woah. Academics.
I mean, the act the academics just said everything.
Oh. Yeah. So it's all been said?
Yeah.
But it's obviously not from, you know, the official source. But Yeah.
I also think that Drake is just desperate to get a win anywhere.
Yeah.
Anywhere he can find 1.
I don't think it's a win, though. It's just like, yeah. Like, I'm I'm I'm a scumbag. I'm friends with a scumbag. Mhmm.
Is that a win?
Yeah. He's just he's pressing the button, blowing everybody up. Yeah. Everyone's coming down with me.
Yeah. To Dan Snyder.
Good guy.
Yeah. Alright. My hoots back of the week is, overreacting to 1 thing and then and then, trying to make changes because there's a a report that the NFL might change the NFL, the playoff format where division winners get an automatic entry into the playoffs, but not necessarily, home field in the 1st round.
I think divisions should should mean something.
I agree. I think there's This would suck.
There's divisions for a reason.
It's also like yeah. This year was weird, and it's crazy that the Vikings and the lions were as good as they were. That week's 18 game was awesome. It wouldn't have I I don't I mean, I guess it would have meant something in terms of
a buy, but it they both would have gotten a
home playoff game. I divisions in the NFL is what makes the NFL great. Yeah. It leads to division rivals and winning your division should mean a lot.
It also leads to regional styles of football Correct. Amongst the divisions, which is cool. Yeah. Like, have an identity for your division.
Like, the NBA has divisions because they don't even fucking care
No.
At all. They're, like, doesn't matter whatsoever. So it's like I I don't know. That's unique like, don't overreact to 1 year. And guess what?
Like, it sucks because the Vikings had a really good year. Win your division.
They were probably looking
at the Lions.
At the criticisms of the college football playoff. And they're like, yeah. We need to do that too.
Yeah. No. You don't. Yeah. No.
You don't.
I mean, it yeah. Sometimes you're gonna have a good wild card team and you're gonna have a a below average division winner.
Yeah. But that's okay. If they're demanding to do this, I could meet them a, like, a quarter way there and say you have to win 9 games to get a home playoff game. But I'm not gonna go find them.
But I like that above 500.
But then also people will then bring up the Beast Quake.
Beast Quake. Yeah. Beast Quake is
a 7 and 9 Seahawks team. That was pretty fucking awesome.
Like, I'm okay with it because if you if you go on the road and you lose to a 7 and 9 team in the playoffs, you should've beaten that team.
Right. And it also win your division. Yeah. Like, that's that's the that's the best part of NFL football is, like, you play your division 6 times. You hate those teams.
They're your rivals. Those games should mean more than all the other games.
Yep.
So, yeah, don't do that NFL.
I don't think they will. I don't think they will either.
Roger Goodell's kinda the anti Adam Silver. I don't feel like he listens to us.
No. I think I think we're good. I mean, unless something really weird happened. If there was an instance where a really shitty division win what's the worst possible record you could have? Have?
I think someone's I was reading a thread on it last night. I think someone technically could win a division 4 and 13.
Well, yeah. Look at
the AFC South. It's probably I mean, they just want a playoff game.
No. I'm saying, like, in the past, though,
I can't there's been
some bad AFC South teams in the playoffs.
Yeah. 4 I think 4 and 13 technically. Mike Vrabel?
Blake Bortles? Which team are you talking about?
Oh, no. I'll
look it up. I mean, I'm not I'm not No. It's not it's not it's not the tightness.
You there.
It might be Bortles.
No. I mean, 7 to 9 is the NFL. The Panthers, I think Ron Rivera, they won 7 to 9. The Panthers won a division once.
Oh, Ron Ron Rivera did it twice. He did it in DC too. Yeah. Heineke.
Also, shout out NFC Beast. And he do only division that has has 2 teams still available.
There we
go. And it's not beast. That's just not true. What? Oh, shit.
Not true.
Well, but the 2 teams that have already advanced.
Yep. Good point, Max.
Switch it up on him.
Yep.
It is kinda cool in the AFC that every division's got a it's just the division champs.
That is left. I also like having Max as my buddy and my friend right now, so I appreciate it, Max. I can tell you really mean all this stuff from your heart.
You definitely mean it.
I'm I'm thinking.
What if the Vikings are in the NFC North or not?
Yeah. If the Rams win tomorrow, then that's true.
Yeah.
That would be true.
So, yes, as of right now, I was correct.
Yeah. 2017 titans that led to Mike Malarkey's firing.
What did they win the division at?
97.
Oh, so that's not even
the 7. Overtime to be the 0 and 16 clear.
It would be
that's not even the 7 nines we've been saying.
Yeah. It'd be the 2016 Houston Texans. So, yeah, I wasn't just making shit up.
What was their record?
They were
907. So it's not above 500. Still
So far, we have 2 run Rivera teams.
And then Andy, Pete Carroll team. Yeah.
And the number 1 on this list is the 2020 Washington Commanders or Washington, whatever.
That was a big time NFC beast move by Doug Peterson that game. Get us into the playoffs. Put Nate Sudfeld on.
Yeah. Alright. Good show, boys. Great show. It's great talking some playoff football.
Congrats, PFT.
Thank you.
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Okay. Numbers. 5.
38. Pick 5.
11.
Pug? 94 pug. Oh, I'm gonna take 89 from the chat. Wow. Pug disrespecting the chat.
26. Wait. What'd you take, though? Jack.
I took 89. I'd be I took 94. 94. 99.
I mean, memes, would it really count if you won with PUGS number? Yes.
What do you mean?
Oh, that's interesting. Mhmm. So It's would it count if
We he didn't claim that.
No. But it but p f your whole is PFT 1 with your I guessed it. I don't see the difference. We got you there. Hank, are you gonna participate?
I said 38. I'll say it again. Oh, 30.
46.
Love you guys.