
Mitch Marner & Mikko Rantanen Want Large Extensions... Do They Deserve Them? | SDP
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- 1 Dec 2024
Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the rumours surrounding both Mikko Rantanen and Mitch Marner and what ...
Then the other thing, last thing, Rantanin wants $14 million.
Marner probably does, too.
Are we worried? Are we worried about Marner? Are we worried Rantanin setting a bar at 14? Let's say he gets it, bumps up Mitch Marner. Here's the thing.
If you were to trade Miko Rantanin and Mitch Marner straight up, who wins the trade?
The team getting Rantanin.
The team who got the well over a point of playoff performer with the Stanley Cup.
And who has twice hit over 100 points.
Miko Rantanin is one of the most underrated players.
If Miko Rantanin is at 14 million, that might set the bar and bring the Marner camp into reality. Because you know, their whole thing is they like a big number first. That's fine. I get that. That's negotiation.
Here's the plan.
I'm not talking about the martyr contract that much.
No, We're in the middle. No, we are. I want 30 minutes on it. I'm going to die. Here's the plan. You want it to be a short show? Forget that nonsense.
No, this is very short. Abandon Optimism.
Nice. How thematic with this time in our lives?
You want them? All right. You pay for them. There it is.
It's that simple. I think the leaf simply cannot spend that much on- What number is the too much number? I think anything beyond 12:05. I think 12:05 is the number.
You let them walk?
I would hate to. I would hate to. I would really hate it. But listen, you want to be here and you want to win. Being here means... And by the way, you can't sign him before the playoffs. No. Even though I freaking love the way he's played. You want to be here and you want to play with these guys, you can't make more than that. We have other players we need to sign. So at a certain point, there has to be some give. And you could argue, Matthew's already gave a little bit. People don't see it that way. I don't know, because it's not an eight-year deal. People are like, Well, he didn't give. I'm like, You guys, you're missing the point.
Part of the reason they're being compared isn't just their UFA is the same year. It's Rantanin making more than McKinnon is a a crazy concept, and Marner making more than Matthews or as much as Matthews is a crazy concept. Both of them are Robin. Marner is Robin. Rantanin is Robin. Matthews and McKinnon, Batman. Robin can't make more than Batman. But Robin has agents. Both Robin. They're trying to get more money.
I would just- Marner's. He wants to be here.
Even if he makes less than Matthew's, if he gets too close to that number, it's too much.
No, we're talking about- No, we got to wrap this show.
Guys, we're talking about Mitch Marner.
So in order to do that, we forgot about the thing that we got to do every time we talk about Mitch Marner.
Don't be pissy.
I'm not being pissy. Here, wait. He's a really good guy. He's a really good teammate. Everyone loves him. He's really good. Okay. Now that we've done that, he's going to ask for a lot of money, as good players do. And what was the conversation that we had earlier this show? Sam Reinhardt makes what?
8.6. $2. Fuck a duck.
I keep waiting for our Sam Reinhardt.
It doesn't have to be eight million. You're not asking for that. But if Marner signed, let's say Marner signs at what Nielander signed for, let's say he does eight years at 11.5, Mitch Marner is instantly the king of Toronto. Oh, dude. He's going to have a parade just in his honor.
At the beginning of last season, if Nielander's number was 11.5, I would have thrown a fit. Then he was one of the best players in the league. What's Mitch Marner been this season?
One of the best players in the league.
One of the best damn players in the league. Yeah, clip that part. I badly want a player to take a discount, but abandon optimism. Dude, that's why I haven't talked about it, because Mitch Marner is so much more fun to talk about when you Don't talk about any of that shit. And that shit is extremely important. That's why we talk about that shit. But until then, elevator music, and I'm watching the games. Hooray. I'm turning on whatever you hear at your dentist office and going, wowy goals. I picked him in fantasy this year because I knew he'd go the fuck off. And what's he doing? Going the fuck off. I got another half an hour in me.
The contract entirely depends on playoff success. It does. For me, a lot of the things I'm reading about Marner right now are mute because he's had awesome Novembres before. He's had awesome October through April. It is about what he does in the playoffs here. They're probably just going to sit on this contract until you see what this team does with the core. Then we have another kick at it this season because everything was on the table and they decided to do nothing on the table. We're going to see again, and one guy, again, his contract is due, and we're going to have an answer once they do something in the playoffs. Last thing, I promise.
When Marner got that amount in 2019, the number one argument was, Well, the cap is going to go up. So the contract should age well. The cap didn't go up because the world stopped and fucked that whole thing. Now, the criticism since then has been, The Leaps didn't adjust their plan, which they didn't. And they actively decided to not adjust their plan. And the moment someone suggested adjusting their plan, they fired that person who has then gone on to a promotion with another company, and it's going terribly.
A sideways promotion where he also took his old job as well as the new job.
Just the weirdest damn thing. The weirdest damn thing. I wish we would talk about how damn weird that damn thing is.
Steve, I'm going to make you manager of this new clothing store, but you also got to work the cash still.
Also, it's your decision It's your decision to work the-Well, you decided that.
Hold on, is he working in radio?
Yeah.
Here, wait. Now, he's coming up again, and the cap is supposed to go up again. Is this a mulligan?
Yes.
Is this the chance for the leaves to give their star all his star money? And then guess what? The cap is going to go up exponentially over the next few years, and they're fine.
I choose to believe that this year, the world won't end again. I think as much as you want to detract against Bettman and he promises things and things don't happen, I think this time it's undeniable that the cap is going to go up by a significant amount.
And then he wants it to go up because it's going to make the franchise value that he sells to Houston and Atlanta really expensive. So, yeah, no.
Then he signs for 15 mil for eight years. And the next day you see a news report about COVID potatoes, and the world gets shut down and the least are fucked.
Yeah. No, I think it'll be okay. I look at the Marner stuff, and I just don't want to talk about it yet.
No, I want to talk about how fucking good he's been playing. He's been unreal.
Let's wrap it. No, I want to talk about it for two hours every day. I want to kick your ass. If we were smart business people, which we're not, we would talk about only Mitch Marner contract. I know.
I'm going to get on a ladder.
You know what? Why don't we become one of those AI-generated YouTube NHL videos? Videos that only post things in Caps Lock? There's so much of that floating around now, and it's like, Marner's next contract. Outrage of the man. You know how many clicks that shit gets? It gets so many clicks.
It's so stupid.
It's the most depressing goddamn thing.
I know..