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I smell a landslide on Tuesday. I've been on the road for 19 months now. A little over. A little A little over... Thank you. Thank you, Magga. I lost a lot of friends and a lot of family, but I have a much bigger family now. We're all held together by blood, by DNA, and that is our basic relationships in our lives. But the most important relationships come from shared values. And everybody in this auditorium shares the value. They love this country, and they love freedom. And they love our Bill of Rights and our Constitution. And I saw those things in danger in a very acute way during the COVID pandemic. And that is one of the principal reasons that I made the decision 19 months ago to for President of the United States. And then a little over a year ago, I left the Democratic Party. That was a difficult decision for me because the Democratic Party was the home for me. It was incomprehensible to me that I would ever leave it. My great, great grandparents came over here, all of them, in 1848, during the height of the potato famine. They landed on the docks of Boston, penniless, and they were met there by the Democratic Party, and the party took care of them.

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It found them homes. It found them jobs. It located them in communities. It was where their churches were, and it gave them a sense of value and community and a love for this country. And my great grandfather, Honey Fitts, was the first Irish Catholic mayor of Boston. His contemporary, Patrick Kennedy, was the He was a state senator and a political boss in Boston. My uncle, John Kennedy, was the first Irish Catholic President. My uncle, Ted Kennedy, was the second longest serving member of the United States Senate. My father was a US senator and attorney general and died running for President of the United States. And it was inconceivable to me that I would ever leave the Democratic Party. But I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party left me. The Democratic Party that I grew up with was the Party of Peace. It was the Party of Civil Rights and Constitutional Rights, and particularly, Freedom of Speech. It was the party that had skepticism toward the CIA and the national security state. It was the party that was also skeptical of Wall Street and the corporate domination of American democracy. It was the Party of women's rights.

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My uncle Ted Kennedy wrote Title IX, make sure that women could play sports in college. And it was It was a party of democracy. It was a party that fought hard to make sure that every American had the right to vote for the candidate that they chose to vote for. Today's Democratic Party is the party of war. It's the party of Dick It's the party. It's the party of John Bolton. These were the people who lied us into the Iraq War, the greatest foreign policy cataclysm in American history. It was these are the men who wrote the Patriot Act that introduced the surveillance state. And gave the CIA permission to spy on Americans, to propagandize Americans. It's the party that is trying to dismantle Title IX and let men play women's sports. The party I grew up with was the party of cops and firefighters and working people. And now, that's the Republican Party. The Democratic Party Today is no longer the party that is skeptical of the CIA. The CIA and the neocons wrote Kamala Harris's speech at the Democratic Convention, the most bellicose, pugnacious speech that we've ever seen at a Democratic Convention.

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Before she went on, she was immediately preceded by a former CIA director. This would be unthinkable in the Democratic Party I grew up in. They become the party of the swamp. They become the party of Wall Street, a big tech, a big data, a big pharma, a big AG, big chemical, and the military-industrial complex. And their party, not of civil rights, but of division. That is tearing our country apart. And so I made a decision to run for President 19 months ago. A little over a year ago, I left the Democratic Party for all of those reasons. And then in August of this year, President Trump called me on August 23rd, immediately after his shooting at Butler. He called me three hours later on the telephone, and he asked me to meet with him the next day in Milwaukee. And we had a two and a half hour meeting then and a number of subsequent meetings. And during those meetings, he urge me to unify our parties and to work with him. To reclaim the values that Robert Kennedy stood for, that John Kennedy stood for. He He said he wanted to end the Forever Wars and bring that 200 billion that we've sent to the Ukraine home to rebuild America.

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He told me that he wanted to end the censorship and end the surveillance and the propaganda, and that he wanted to put an end to the weaponization of law enforcement agencies against the American political system, and that he wanted to end this corrupt merger of state and corporate power that has turned our regulatory agencies predatory against the American public. And he said that he wanted to make America healthy again. And the chronic disease epidemic that is destroying our children, and that is an existential threat to our nation. When my uncle was President and I was a 10-year-old boy, the rate of chronic disease in this country was 6 %. Today, it's 60 %. When my uncle was President, we We spent zero on chronic disease in this country. There were no drugs to treat it. Today, we spend $4.3 trillion. $4.3 trillion. That's five times our military budget. It's the largest cost to our nation, and it is bankrupting us, and it is destroying us morally because we are betraying our children by letting these industries poison them. The rate of obesity at that time was three %. Today, it's 50 % in our children.

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And 74 % of Americans are obese or overweight. We didn't suddenly become lazy and glutnice. We are being mass-poisoned by corrupt industry. In Japan, where they don't have this corruption, the obesity rate is three %. That's what it's supposed to be, 3 %. It's not supposed to be 50 %, and this is a national security threat. 77 % of American kids are no longer qualified for military service because of chronic disease diagnosis. And what are these diseases? They're obesity, they're neurodevelopment disorders. And I'm going to list some of them because I'm a 70-year-old man. And when I was a boy, I never heard of any of these diseases because nobody had them. I had 11 siblings. I had about 70 first cousins. And I didn't know anybody with ADD, ADHD, speech delay, language delay, sleep disorders, to red syndrome, narcolepsy, ASD or autism. The autism rate in my generation today, in 70-year-old men is one in 10,000. The autism rate in our children is one in 34. In California, as Calleigh just said, It's one in 24. And the rate in boys is much higher. We also saw this explosion of autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis and Crohn disease and lupus, and juvenile diabetes, all of these exotic diseases that we never heard of as a kid.

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The diabetes rate when I was a kid was effectively zero. A typical pediatrician, when I was a young boy, would see one case of diabetes in his lifetime, in his career, a 40 or 50 year career. Today, one out of every three children who walks through his office door is diabetic or prediabetic. And nobody's talking about it. Nobody's saying anything. Nobody is recognizing that we are being mass poisoned by big pharma and big food. And all these allergic diseases that suddenly appeared. I never knew a kid anywhere in any of the schools that I went to that had a peanut allergy or food allergies or eczema. My brother had asthma, and he was told by his doctor, there will never be a cure for asthma because it's so rare that nobody will ever study Today, one out of every eight black children in America's cities has asthma. What is happening to our children? And I saw this happening, and I began writing about it, and the media rose up and silenced me in 2005, and nobody would talk about it. The doctors wouldn't talk about it. The pediatricians wouldn't talk about it. The scientists, the government officials.

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And people warned me, If you keep talking about this, you're going to destroy your career. And I was stunned by this. And for 19 years, since 2005, I spend 30 minutes praying every day when I get out of bed. And I And my prayer is this. I ask God for 19 years to put me in a position where I could end the chronic disease epidemic and bring health back to our children. And in August, God sent me Donald Trump. Now, we're five days out from an election, and it's an election that we are certain to win. If every vote is counted, if all the votes are counted, we are going to win this election. Now, the medical industrial complex, and I want to remind you of this. I've been told to go on a little longer because President Trump is not yet in the building. You know, How's all going to tell you this? When I was seven years old, I went to the inauguration of my as President in Washington, DC. And three days before that, President Eisenhower, the outgoing President, made what today we have to regard as the most important speech in American history.

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And it was the speech where he told Americans that they should be in fear of the emergence of a military-industrial complex that would erode our democracy, that would subvert our democratic institutions, that would steal our money and steal our resources and bankrupt the middle class in this country and make us weak in the long run. And I urge you to go look at that speech, because after he talks about the military industrial complex, he says, And by the way, just as bad is the medical industrial complex, which will perverse Third science, which will lie to the public, which will turn science to serve industrial and corporate interests, the mercantile ambitions of big corporations. As soon as Donald Trump started talking about giving me the power, he asked me to do three things. He asked me to root out the corruption and end the conflicts of interest. In our regulatory agencies and end this corporate capture that has turned our regulatory agencies into his stockpuppets, the industries they're supposed to regulate. And he asked me to restore the tradition of gold standard, empirical historically based evidence-based science and medicine in our regulatory agencies. And to restore the transparency So that these agencies must stop hiding science from us when it clashes with the commercial ambitions of the pharmaceutical industry.

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And he doesn't want me to take vaccines away from people. If you want to take a vaccine, you ought to be able to take it. We believe in free choice in this country. You ought to the risks and benefits of everything you take. And we need good science for that. And we need informed consent. And he asked me to do that, and then he asked me to end the chronic disease epidemic in this country. And he said, I want to see results, measurable results in the diminishment of chronic disease within two years. And I said, Mr. President, I will do that. Oh, This has caused a lot of aggravation and apoplexy among a certain class of the medical elites. And today, The Washington Post and NBC and the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal all did articles. Talking about what a catastrophe it's going to be if I get anywhere near the medical establishment. And I read the articles because I wanted to see the names of the people who were denouncing me. And every one of them is on the farm of payroll. These are what the media calls experts. But these are the same experts that made us the sickest country in the history of the world.

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Whatever they're doing is not working. We had during this country, these are the guys who gave us the COVID countermeasures, which shut down our schools, which closed our churches, which shut down 3.3 million businesses in this country, all the little businesses, and they left open the Walmart and Facebook and all of the big people who were cashing in on the pandemic. And these are the people who are treating disease for them, for these people. The most valuable asset in America is a sick child. They don't want your child dead. They want him sick for life. Then it's dependent on their products. And the more statins they prescribe for heart disease, the more heart disease goes up. The more metaphore they prescribe for diabetes, the more diabetes we have. The more antidepressants they prescribe, the more people we have who are depressed. The more Ambian they describe, the more insomnia there is. The more opioids they prescribe, the more pain there is. The more Viagra they prescribe, a higher ED goes. And so these drugs, their formula, this pharmaceutical paradigm, is not working. And President Trump wants to do something different. And somebody called me one of the anchors of ABC today, and I had an off-the-record discussion with him.

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And he said, There's so much division in this country. And I said, That's because you're causing it. My nephew, who has traveled with me for 19 months, he's my wife, Sheryl's nephew. And he's been working for me for 19 months and traveled everywhere with me. And he's met President Trump many times now. And he said to me today, he said, Everybody who's met President Trump loves President Trump. He said, You can't help but love him. So why does half of America hate him? They haven't met him, and the media is telling them to hate him. And I said this. I said, You're demonizing him. You're vilifying him. You're calling us garbage. You're calling him Hitler. You're calling him a fascist. And of course, people are going to hate him. And I said, and by the way, you're writing all these articles, condemning me, coming into Washington, dismantling the pharmaceutical paradigm. Where are you getting your salary? I'm pharma. And he said, we tell both sides of the story. And I said, no, you don't. And He said, well, President Trump is saying radical things. I said, like what? He said he's going to pull, he said he's going to pull CBS's license.

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And I said, he ought to pull CBS's license. Cbs doesn't own the airwaves. We do. The people of the United States own the airwaves. Cbs is licensed to use the airwaves, but only for a public purpose, to advance the public benefit. We have a doctrine in this country called the Fairness Doctrine that says, if If you're licensed to own a network, you got to tell the news at least once a day, and you got to be fair to both sides. And I said to this guy, I said, I was running for 19 months. When Ross Perot ran in 1992 for 10 months, he did 34 live interviews on the airwaves, on the national networks. And I said, I did four in 19 months, and your network never let me on a single time. You're only telling one side of the story. And the only thing you'll report about Donald Trump is propaganda to make people despise him. And one of the things I'm going to advise Donald Trump to do in order to correct the chronic disease epidemic is to ban pharmaceutical advertising on TV. There's only two countries in the world that allow pharmaceutical advertising on the airwaves.

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One of them is New Zealand and the other is us. And we have the highest disease rate, and we buy more drugs, and they're more expensive than anywhere in the world. Italy spends about one-sixth of them that we spend on health care, and Italians live seven years longer. So whatever they're doing does not work. And don't you want a President who is going to fix this country? Don't you want a President who's going to end the addiction to foreign wars? And don't you want a President who's going to end their censorship and surveillance and return freedom of speech to our country? And don't you want a President who's going to clean out the corruption and drain the swamp at the regulatory agencies and get the chemicals out of our food and protect our children and restore their health and make America the healthiest country in the world, which it was when I was a kid. All you want a President who's going to make America healthy again? And don't we deserve a President who will make America great again? Will you go to the polls on Tuesday And make sure that we all ride that big garbage truck to Washington, DC.

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Now, Now I want to bring on my friend and one of my great heroes, Tucker Carlson. Thank you all very much.

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The impact of Black Lives Matter and their brilliance, they're not going to stop, and they should not.

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The people who are responsible for it are the most dishonest. We've been to the border.

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You haven't been to the border.

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And I haven't been to Europe. What you're watching is not a political movement. It's evil. Imagine a government that totally destroys the country and then criminalizes complaining about it. Free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy. Yes. Well, the one thing you can't censor is a live event. When he stood up after being shot in the face, this was no longer a man. This was the leader of a nation. Trump is the man who can save the rest of Call back Trump. Call back Trump.

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You've been with Donald Trump the last day. He's now here in Spain.

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We're in downtown Madrid, going to a nightly protest. Who broke Nord Stream?

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You for sure.

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The second you decide to tell the truth about something, you are filled with this power from somewhere else. Try it. The more you tell the truth, the stronger you become. Free speech is the main right that you have. Without it, you have no other.

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Yeah. And I'm set up and poured out this stage with my own two hands.

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We've traveled this land, packed titan minivans.

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And all this for the fans.

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Girls, money and Fame.

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I played their game and had to scream my name. I was so no shame. I live and die for this.

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And if I come on this, you want this. Thank you. This is so cool. Thank you. I was I was just standing backstage with my wife who never comes to events like this. She's not very political, but she has very strong political feelings, so strong that she doesn't like to hear about politics because it winds her up and she says, She says, Two seconds ago, she goes, and she's a very sweet person, former religion teacher, and she goes, I want to introduce you. She has that crazed look in her eye, and I said, I don't know if that's a good idea. Why do you want to introduce me? She said, Because I want to lead crowd in a chant, We are not garbage. I thought, That's it right there. The abuse that the best people in the country have taken for the past eight years is too much. You're garbage? Really? Listen to who's saying that. Anyway, I'm really grateful to be here. I never thought that I would be speaking at a rally for Donald Trump. This is the fourth time I've done it. It has felt not only like an honor and a privilege every time, but it has felt really natural.

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I'm surprised. I was in journalism for 33 years, hanging around. I know. Someone just said, It's nothing to brag about. Trust me. I honestly feel like saying I was young and I needed the money. It's almost like when the naughty pictures of you emerged, you're like, That was the old me. But I spent my whole life standing at the back watching, and I always thought, oh, politicians, they're disgusting. By the way, I still think that. I would never get on stage and endorse one. You'd have to be totally bereft of a soul to do something like that. And here I am with a full-throated, utterly sincere endorsement of Donald Trump. How did that happen? I was thinking of that this morning in the shower where I do my best thinking. I like thinking in the shower because there's no lying to yourself in the shower. Because when you walk out of the shower and you see this furry, lumpy primate in the mirror, there's no imagining your God. No, it's very grounding to see yourself naked at least once a day. I always think, I got to hang a black sheet over that mirror, but I keep it just to keep me on the ground and with perspective.

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Anyway, I was thinking about this morning and I was thinking, I've known Donald Trump, gosh, a long time just from working in television. And what people forget about Donald Trump, who is often described as a real estate developer or a casino owner, both of which are true, but that for a huge chunk of his life, 10 years anyway, he had the number one show on television. He had mastered the business that I was in. And on the one hand, television is a repulsive business. It's like a pea-ditty party every night. Yeah. Tell me about it. I spent 30 years doing it. But on the other hand, the people who are really, really successful, and Trump was number one in television, all have one thing in common, which is they understand people, and the good ones like people, and they're liked back. And by the way, you probably know this, but in the TV business, which has spent the last eight years telling you Trump is a terrifying dictator, he was loved. I mean, everyone loved him, and I liked him. I mean, I liked him from the first time I talked to him 20 years ago.

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He was hilarious. And interesting and smart and again, incredibly funny. And it was almost 10 years ago. It was the winter of 2015. I was in the car. I actually interviewed Trump that morning. I was working on a TV network that shall not be named. And Trump was the guest. And he was, of course, this famous star on another network, NBC. And he did great like he always did. We had a great time. And about three hours later, I was in the car going somewhere, and he called me. And he said, I I just want you to know that I'm thinking of running for President. And I just did not take it seriously at all. And I said, Oh, yeah, I'm running for President. Okay. Because everyone in TV thinks I should be President. Joe Scarborough wakes up every morning.

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I should be President.

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But he's not really going to run because he don't want to give up the salary, and it's hard to run for President. It's just a way to sell a book or whatever. So I laughed. And he said, No, I'm going to surprise you. And it was such a weird I actually wrote it down in my calendar. I looked it up today. I wrote it down. Donald Trump calls, says he's going to run for President because there was something in his voice that didn't sound like the Trump I thought I knew. There was a resolve there that I thought was amazing. Of course, the rest is history. Almost 10 years later, he has completely transformed the country and the world and the political party under whose banner he ran, the Republican Party. For me, it was this incredible incredible journey of watching this guy, covering him, knowing him to where I am now, which is speaking on a stage without any shame at all, not getting paid for it, doing it because I really mean it and endorsing him for President. I just want to explain how I got here because I think it says a lot about who Trump is.

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So the first thing I noticed about Trump was that everybody in the Republican Party I had suspicions about hated him immediately. There was something about Donald Trump that whenever he spoke, that the people I'd always thought were false, the John Goldbergs of the world, the Mitch McDonalds of the world. No, I mean, boo, boo, boo. But I mean, these were leading figures in the Republican Party, my neighbors in Washington, DC, who are Republicans. Here, Trump comes out of nowhere. He seems to be gaining traction. People who never voted Republican, who never voted at all, seem to like Trump. This seemed like great news if you're trying to expand your political party. And yet the Republicans in Washington were so offended by Trump that they couldn't even talk about him. I remember being at a Christmas party in 2015 with my affermentioned sweet wife at our neighbor's house. It was all kinds of people sitting around and someone mentioned Trump, and my wife, who's not political at all, says, I like Trump. I remember one of my neighbors goes, Oh, yeah, I like Trump. That's hilarious. My wife goes, No, I do like Trump. Why? Is that bad?

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People, it was like the devil getting splashed with holy water. They just moved back slowly staring at her like, Is this person dangerous? That was such a shocking thing to say in Northwest DC in 2015. I began to ask myself, Why is Donald Trump so threatening? Is it because he's got some crazed extremist program? No. Everything he said was moderate and sensible. I don't know, we should have a border. If we're going to have NATO, maybe the countries in NATO should help pay for it. If we're going to defend Europe, maybe they could pony up a little bit. Why are we paying the entire bill? That didn't seem crazy to me. Boy, they treated Trump like he was a dangerous freak, like he just escaped from the state mental institution, shackles on his arm and a butcher knife in his hand. Stop this man. I just remember watching this. I wasn't emotional about it at first. I remember thinking, my The papers all seem so reasonable and sensible, even the Democrats. All normal people. I lived on their street. Why are they so mad about a guy who says stuff like we should have a border?

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Then I realized that they hated Trump because Trump asked questions they couldn't answer. Why are we doing it this way? I remember thinking and saying, Well, I don't know, why don't you just answer his question? If not having a border is such a good idea, if it's so important to have a tight labor market, or if you think tariffs are so terrible, why don't you just explain why? Why are you yelling at the guy? No matter what he said, he would get up and say, I think we should have tariffs. They would say, Racist. I would think to myself, What do tariffs have to do with race? I was completely confused. Then over time, within about a year, I realized people hated Trump because they were guilty of crimes. Those people were my neighbors coworkers. My mind exploded. I mean, ultimately, I had to leave the city where I spent my entire life because thanks to Donald Trump, I saw what it really was, which was a scam. It was the richest city in the United States. Its suburbs, 8 out of 10 of the richest suburbs were suburbs of Washington, DC, and we didn't make anything.

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There was no business there. There was no production of By the way, there was also no creativity or open-mindedness. How did these people get so rich? Well, by stealing. That's how. That had never occurred to me until Trump came. And yet everybody involved in the grift knew instantly the jig was up. If this guy keeps talking, we're in deep trouble. I'm not even sure, and he's coming on stage in a minute, and maybe we can ask him. I'm not even sure even sure that when he got to Washington, Donald Trump understood how corrupt the city was. I'm not sure he even knew. He sensed there was a problem. Neither he nor me nor any normal person had any idea that even before he got to the city, the CIA and the FBI would be working to destroy him. That's the threat that he posed to them. And what was that threat? Just being honest in a simple way about what he saw, telling the truth. They saw the truth as a mortal threat, and they see the truth as a mortal threat now. I really think, I mean, look, let's be completely honest. Donald Trump is the choice of American voters for President.

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That's not wish fulfillment. I'm not saying that because I want it to be true, though I do. I'm saying that because it's completely obvious. There is no Democrat running for anything who Who could fill a hall like this, who could do it four times a day for a year. There's not one. There's no Republican in Washington. Could Mitch McDonald fill this hall? I don't think so. Yeah, every boo is deserved. If you only knew how deserved those booze were. One of the things that we learned from Donald Trump, one of the many, many things, completely changed my life watching it. One of the many things we learned is that the Republican Party, the leaders of the Republican Party, really despised their own voters. They had zero interest in improving their lives. And we know this because as 100,000 a year died of drug overdose, As their towns died from offshoring of industry, as their towns were invaded from people from foreign countries who were here illegally, they did nothing. Their attention was focused abroad to the Middle East and Eastern Europe. That's where all the money went. That's where all the prayers went. That's where all the attention went, because that's all they cared about.

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They didn't care at all about their own voters.

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And by the way, I didn't really know that. I think most people in this room sense that. You know when someone doesn't care about you, you can feel it. You can feel the contempt coming off them in oily waves. That's exactly what that is. It's contempt. Joe Biden is not the only one who thinks you're garbage, actually. Mr. Mcdonald agrees with that. That's a fact. And that's one of the reasons that they don't want Donald Trump back in Washington. But the main reason they don't want Donald Trump back in Washington is something called disclosure. Do you know what disclosure is? Disclosure means sunlight. Disclosure is the principle that you, as an American citizen, an equity owner of this country, not a renter, not a surf, not a slave, but as a citizen, an owner of this country, a person on whose behalf the government exists. There's no other reason to have the government except to serve you, that you have a right to know what that government is doing with your money in your name. It's not a privilege that you are granted. If they're in a good mood one day, you can know a little bit more about how John F.

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Kennedy was murdered in 1963. You have an absolute moral right to know because you own it. They're your employees who somehow have decided they're your overlords, and they're very concerned that if Donald Trump comes back to Washington, we're going to find out what's happened to the $100 billion that we've sent Ukraine over the past two and a half. What happened to that money? There's never been an audit of it. Where do you think it went? Have you been to McLean recently? Yeah. It's not just Hunter Biden, by the way. Hunter Biden, to his great credit, was so high on crack, he couldn't steal half as much as your average contractor in Washington and his friends. So the truth is, actual crimes have taken place, crimes that made people rich, crimes that hurt American citizens. And you're not allowed to know their scale or the details about any of them because it's classified. And They're terrified if Donald Trump gets back, accompanied by a full cast of reformers, not alone this time, not a single man riding into Washington, man against the machine. It's hard to do that. He did it. He fought off two impeachment attempts for daring to do it.

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But if he comes back with, I don't know, Bobby Kennedy and Elon Musk, when he comes back with an army of people who know exactly what's up, they know what's going on. They know where the bodies are likely to be buried, and they're coming with shovels to dig them up. What you're seeing now is actual panic and desperation. I guess I've backhandedly defended Biden on the grounds that he was so out of it, he had no idea what was actually going on. I'll extend the same courtesy to Kamala Harris and that creepy guy who's following around on the campaign trail. By the way, AOC just said the other day, speaking of which, AOC, that would be Alexandria Ocazio Cortés. I love that. She's this revolutionary who's named after a and doesn't even know it. Your last name is Cortés, honey. Sit this one out. Excuse me. It would be like, Larry Mussolini shows up and is like, No, I'm against fascism, really. All right, got it. What a moron. But she was in a rally in Vegas yesterday, and she goes, Doug Emhoff is the model of masculinity. Oh, man. Memo to any unmarried women here, do not date a feminist man.

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They'll smack you around. Trust me. It's the weak ones you have to be afraid of, but it's the strong ones they're afraid of because they know that what they've done and have been doing for decades could be exposed. This is existential for them. I would just say without putting too fine a point on it, but every person in this room senses what I'm talking about, do not underestimate what they are capable of. To them, this is not an election. It's much bigger than that. These are people who think they have a moral right to rule and that you are born in the surf class and there you will stay. They believe that. These same people lecturing us about democracy. They think it is their right to be in charge, as if anyone in a democracy has a right to be in charge. People serve at the pleasure of the population for the benefit of the population. It's literally that simple. But they don't believe that. Donald Trump has stood in the face of that group, which includes every power center, not simply in the United States, but in the world, almost since the day he called me in the car in the winter of 2015 and said he was dead serious about running.

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And he has faced them off, and he has endured more punishment, graver trials than any politician in the history of this country. He didn't need to. He didn't need to. At any point, he could have said, You know what? I've got a lot of grandchildren, some of whom I enjoy playing golf with. I'm pretty rich, actually. You may have heard that. I don't need this. He has bulled forward with energy and cheerfulness from beginning to end. I've I would submit, since AOC raised the question of what a real man looks like, let me just tell you my view of what a real man looks like. A real man is a cheerful man, and he's cheerful because he's brave. Brave people have hope because they have a mission and they're strong inside. And they know because they are living for something greater than themselves, that even if they die, They don't die. The mission lives on, and that's what gives them heart and cheerfulness. They are not morose. They are not self-pidiing. They are bright, bright-eyed, cheerful, energetic, and in command. And that is exactly what Trump has proven to be, including on the day he was shot in the face.

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And I know because I talked to him that night. And he made a joke about it. And I sometimes think, I'm a pretty tough guy. I've been fired by all these cable networks. It's really hard to be fired by a cable network. I've really been through it. Thank me for my service later. It's absurd. All of us are the heroes of our own drama. Of course, no matter what it is, you teach middle school social studies. I'm sure you come home and think, Man, I fought a battle today. You run some stupid cable TV show and you're like, I'm tough as hell. Try getting shot in the face in a rally and then pushing off the secret service and standing up with your fist in the air. Try that. That was the most revealing moment I have ever seen in the life, not just of any politician, but of any person I have known personally, someone I actually know. And that's the moment that little boys dream about. Every little boy, because men do not become men organically, they have to prove that they're men. Every little boy dreams about some war scenario. Everyone's dead but me, and I'm charging the machine gun nest because I'm the bravest man.

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Would you? Would you be the bravest man? Or would you be in fetal position? Calling out your mom's name? I don't know. We don't know. You haven't been put in that position. I haven't either. Donald Trump just was on camera. It was so unbelievable that Democrats on MSNBC and the Internet immediately accused him of faking it on the grounds that nobody could be that brave. It's true, that's not a Doug Emhoff thing to do. It's hard to imagine the second gentleman standing up and being like, fight, fight, fight. We're Tim Walsh. But the truth is, masculinity is still an indispensable thing. I'm sorry. It is. Even in an age of Uber Eats and air conditioning, no one's going out to slay a mastodon with a spear, but you still need a brave man in charge because it's a rough world and unexpected things happen. As my friend Mike Tyson said, famously, Everybody got a plan until it gets hit in the face. What's your plan when you get shot in the face? You don't have a plan. You act purely on instincts, and that's when we find out if you're a leader or not. That's what we learned.

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We're learning it still. We're learning it still because even if you or me have been able to pull that off, you think that's the end? You think that's the last time they're going to try to do that to you? Are you joking? No, probably not. You think even if you manage to get the most votes, you can get elected. If you get elected, what's it going to be like to govern? It is an unending struggle every single day to represent the people you've promised to represent, the people who otherwise have no representation, none. Because trust me, outside of Donald Trump, very few people in Washington care about you. And I mean that because you're not Ukrainian. But he does care. And because he cares, because at this point, I don't care if you're a New York Times correspondent, and if there are any in this room, let me raise my middle finger in your face. And that is heartfelt. I mean that. That's not just some talking point I'm throwing out there to make you feel good. My hostility toward legacy media is earned. I know them. They're worse than you think. But that's not just a talking point.

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That is real. Someone who is willing to do that on your behalf is not only the man you need, he's the only man who can represent you, because that's what it's going to take. You're going to have to stare down the barrel of the hate aimed at you, not just from assorted people on the Internet, but from the most powerful people on the planet. And you're going to have to stand up and straight and say, Onward, with a smile on your face every day. And he's the only person I have ever met in my entire 55 years on this planet who can do that. So with that, let me get my handheld mic to introduce the former and next President.

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I'm going to forget the men who died, who gave that life to me. And I'm happy to say, I'm next to you, and the papers still today. Because if we go down around the I got to say, from the day you told me to know it's how you're doing, that I would be here more than I see.

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Now, I am more honored than I've been in a long time in memory. From sea to sky, sea. There he is. Ladies and gentlemen, President Donald J.

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Trump.

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Thank you, Mr. President.

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Well, thank you.

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I've been thinking this for the past eight years, and I think I've thought it more frequently this year. What motivates you to keep going?

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Who the hell knows? I don't know. I just want to be with people like this. There's so much love in this room. So much love, right? Isn't that amazing? It's pretty easy. I could have a lot of different... I have a lot of alternatives. I could be in a beautiful beach with the waves hitting me in the face and all that boring stuff. I've been there, and you get very bored pretty easily. I have one thing in mind. It's called make America great again. That's all I think about.

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Amen. But was there ever a moment And I don't want to go through the litany, but I was thinking about it today because every person in this room has followed this so carefully. But if you make a list of all the attacks, some of which are just mind boggling in their viciousness and unfairness culminating with being shot, was there ever a moment where you just thought, Come on, this is too much?

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You like not to think about that, honestly. And there are moments when you don't feel so good about things, but you try not to that. You try not to... I always like to look forward. I don't like to look so much in the present. I don't like to look in the past so much, other than you have to learn from the past. It's history. You have to learn, otherwise you're a very foolish person. But I like to look forward. I like to think of the positive. I think you have to have the power of positive thinking in a way. I don't know, it's just a mission that I'm on. I felt we did great in the first election, 2016. We did much better in the second election. Bad things happened. Bad, bad, bad things happened. And had I not done well in the second, I would have said, All right, that's it, because you wouldn't have done well. But I knew how well we did. And now, Shit. You're right about that. But if I didn't do... We got millions and millions more votes in the second election, which rarely happens to a President. Usually, they get less.

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Almost all the time, they get less. Obama got less. Barack Hussein Obama, he got a lot less. And had we not done well, but I knew how well we did. And I said, well, let's see how they do. And I waited, and I waited and I waited around for a year and I looked at these people, and Biden was grossly incompetent. I saw that his vice President wasn't even a discussion. She came in last. She was the first one to get out of the Democrat primary. She was, I guess, number 22. I think there were 22 people, and she was the last or first out, if you want to look at it that way. She never got to Iowa, but I was watching. And if they could do well, I would have been very happy. Actually, I would have been very satisfied, but they were grossly incompetent. And when I watched what they were doing and how they were destroying this country at the border, I mean, millions and millions of people. I'm sure we have some in here tonight with us, murderers and drug dealers, prisoners. Prisons from all over the world are being emptied out into our country, all over the world, the Congo and Africa, not just South America.

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You know this. They're opening up their prisons, and they're bringing them into our country. Anyway, so I watched other things, too. I watched, I mean, Afghanistan. You take a look at Afghanistan, what happened with Afghanistan, how bad that was. I wanted to get out. We were getting out. We were going to keep Bagram, but we were getting out with dignity and strength. We were strong. And the way they got out, they took the soldiers out first. No, you take the soldiers out last. Anybody would know that. And you watched all of the things that happened. And I said, we're going to do this thing. We're going to do it again. And we're doing well. I mean, now we're going to know in four days, but we're doing very well. I think we're leading by a lot. And if we can keep that cheating down because they're a bunch of cheats. If we can keep that cheating down, we're going to have a tremendous victory. I think it'll go down as one of the greatest victories of all time. We're going to have an exciting time. We're going to have an exciting time.

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So you were in New Mexico the other day. New Mexico is considered a pretty blue state. What were you doing there?

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Well, they're also a border state. They have people pouring in by the tens of thousands, and they're being decimated. They're being hurt very badly. They also have a pretty rotten economy for a lot of reasons. But what they really have is tremendous inflation. But beyond that, because I happen to think that the border is the single biggest issue, I think the border is a bigger issue than inflation. Inflation is destroying, and it's a country Buster. Inflation, it's broken up many countries, including Germany from many years ago. You look at where there was big... This was the biggest inflation and the worst inflation inflation we've ever had. They say in 48 years, they don't include a lot of things. It was the worst inflation we've ever had. Inflation is a country Buster. So I'm not trying to minimize that, but I think the biggest problem and the worst thing that's happened to this country is allowing millions of people in here that are criminal people. Look, when you empty out your prisons and you put them into the United States, a lot of bad things happen, and they're coming in Totally unvetted, totally unchecked. They're pouring in.

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Venezuela has allowed thousands and thousands of the roughest prisoners in the world to come in. You know their crime rate? Their crime rate is way down. I think like 70%, 72%. They've taken from Caracas and the cities in Venezuela where they have the problem. They've taken the street gangs, and they've delivered them into the United States. Thank you very much. They've taken their criminals. They've taken their drug dealers and drug lords. They've taken them out of Caracas, and they brought them into the United States. And it is a disgrace. And we are going to have to do a very large deportation because you can't live like that. It cannot be sustained, Tucker. It cannot be sustained. I think you know that better than anybody.

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I do know. I think it's the gravest crime ever committed against the United States ever by any country. Our leaders committed against us. But it does raise the question of motive. It hasn't helped the labor market any. It hasn't helped Americans at all. You've heard a Democratic senator stood up and said, the United States military should take these people. We should give them guns. New York City has given them guns in the police Department. You wonder, what is going on here?

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So it's the hardest thing. In business, and you like to go where you started from, you like to understand where the other side is coming from. So here you're looking at something, why do they want men in women's sports? And I've been doing this now. I used to say I was very proud to say I wasn't a politician, but I guess after a while, you're a politician. I think you qualify. I hate to say it, but you like to know where the other side is coming from. And I'll say, why do they want to have men? And they're so emphatic about it, men playing in women's sports. You see what's happening in volleyball, what's happening in swimming, what's happening in weight lifting. How about weight lifting? Where records that stood for 18 years are being broken by hundreds of pounds. A whole thing is crazy. Then you say, why do they want to have transition? I call them transition operations by the thousands. If you just say, well, I'm thinking about it, they throw you onto an operating table. And you say, why do they want to have that? Who wants that? Who wants to have open borders?

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They're all the same thing. They don't make any sense. We're the party of common sense, right? Because I think we're really the party of Common Sense. And they're only There can only be a couple of reasons. Number one, they're stupid. Well, they're not stupid because you can't be stupid. No, but you can't be stupid and be that good at cheating on elections, okay? Because they're great at that. So they could be stupid. But they could also hate our country. They could hate our country. They may hate our country. They may not even know it. A lot of people don't know it. And the other thing is they want to cheat on elections by signing these people up. And they are trying to sign people up. They're trying to sign people up that don't even know what country they're in. Okay? So that's the other thing. So it's one of those three things. Nobody really knows. But you'd say, okay, so I've been doing I've seen this for a while. I've never had anybody... I've had people come up and say, Gee, it would be great if you could get the taxes down. Gee, it would be great if you could do this.

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It would be hundreds of things. Nobody has ever come up to me and said, it's really important to me that we allow men to play in women's sports. Nobody. And yet it's such a big deal. It's such a big deal.

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So you think the point may be just to destroy, just to break the country?

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It could be they hate our country. I mean, they may hate our country. And we deal with real scum. I mean, like a guy like Adam, Adam Shifty Chef. He's a sleeve bag, and he's probably going to be a senator, if you can believe it. But I call him Watermelon Head. He has the... No, He's unattractive both inside and out. No, but this is a really bad guy. This is a dishonest guy, not a dumb guy at all. He's got the smallest I've ever seen on a human bag. He will never be a football player, I can tell you, but he's a smart guy. But he's just a sleezbag. There's nothing else he could... I'll give you, should I give you a little example? I hope you will.

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I'm really enjoying this a lot.

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This gentleman happens to like my son, Don, I think, because he likes you. Now, maybe you don't, but he likes you. I have a son, Don, who's a good guy. He's a good guy. He's a wild man. A little wild. I would say he's a little wild. In a good way. But in a good way. He's a very good kid. And I read about all of a sudden, he's involved with Russia, Russia, Russia. I said, But I know him so well. He's my boy. I know exactly. He knows less about Russia than the cameraman that's sitting right there who's never been... Don doesn't know anything about Russia. But one day, about two years, three years before, they met a whole group of people, met with a Russian lawyer having to do with these Novinsky Act or something, having to do with child adoption. Adoption. Crazy. But she was a Russian. Now, everybody in Congress knew this woman. But anyway, they go after him. Now, think of this. Russia, Russia, Russia was a major hoax. It's now been a judge to be a total major hoax. We had the Mueller Commission. We had everybody. It was a hoax.

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It was made up to justify why Hillary Clinton lost the election, which she wasn't supposed to lose. It It was a totally... And it was made up by Schiff and Hillary and some other just total sleazeballs. And what happened is the fake news media, which is back there. You do know that they're always around someplace. But what happened is the fake news media, what they said is it started with a simple move. How did you lose the election? It was Russia. And I'm saying to myself, wait a minute, This election. What the hell did Russia have to do with it? And then it went and it was only supposed to be a one day deal by the Democrats. In other words, it was good. But the press picked it up and they liked it. They like Russia. That sounds good. You covered it better than you were funny. You go, Russia, Russia, Russia. You'd go crazy. But it drove you crazy because you knew it was such a hoax.

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It was so insane.

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And all these people I knew believed it. It was such a hoax. They actually tried starting it up about two months ago. Did you see? It flopped. This time, the press just couldn't get away with it. I'll tell you about our lawsuit having to do with the Pulitzer. We brought a lawsuit against because they said the New York Times, Washington Post, they got the Pulitzer Prize for accurate and beautiful reporting on the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, the whole thing. And I sued them. And it's doing very well, by the way. I want the reporters to give back their awards because they were wrong. There were plenty of guys that were right, like you and Sean. And there were plenty of guys that were right. But here's the thing. So shifty shift. See, that's the weave. See, we start. You know about the weave, right? Start. As long as you come back to the right location. So what happens? You understand that? Yeah. Somebody said, does he ramble? I said, I don't ramble. I do the weave. I cover many, many subjects. And you always come back to the right. That's genius. There's a difference between rambling and genius.

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Okay, so now getting back to the point. So I have a son, Don, a good guy, he knows nothing about Russia, has zero. And they went through millions of phone calls There was a one call to Russia, et cetera. So Shifty Schiff, Adam Schiff, a real sleazebag. He's at an intelligence meeting, and he's not supposed to be talking, but wherever he goes, the press is out there standing because he's provocative or whatever the hell, or because they figure they'll get something bad on me, which is probably much more accurate. So shift comes out. Now, think of this, how bad a person you have to be. I have a son, and I love my son. I love all my children. You love your children. I mean, there are a couple of people that who doesn't love their children? There'll be about 20 people out there. But I have a son, and I love my son, and he's a good boy. He's a good guy. Eric, you know Barron? I love my kids. I have good kids, but I love my son. And shift goes out. Now, think of this. It was him and Crooket Hillary and some other people.

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They conceived of this hoax, so they know it's a hoax. They know it's not real because it's a made up story that they conceived, and they spied on my campaign, all this stuff. But they conceived of the story, so he knows the story is false, and yet he leaves an intelligence meeting, goes to the press, which is waiting outside a lot of press, and he says something to the effect, Donald Trump Jr, the son of the President of the United States, will be going to jail. He will spend many years in prison for what he's done to our nation. And think of how bad you have to be. He He just said that an innocent kid is going to go to prison on a story that's a bacocked story. It's a made up story. And he said, My son, President's son, is going to spend many years in prison. I called my son And I said, Hey, Don, how's everything? Are you okay with this? He said, Dad, I don't know what they're talking about. And he was demented. He said, I don't know what they're talking. I didn't want to get into it too much because I didn't want to make him nervous.

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And I said, Well, you don't know anything about Russia. He said, Dad, I don't know anything. I have nothing. I don't know what they're talking about. So think of this. It turned out the Mueller report. And I tell you, it was an amazing thing that happened because I had 18 radical left lunatics, and I had Mueller who didn't know where the hell he was. Okay? You saw that in the hearings. But think of this. I had no chance. It was a stacked court, but But I had an angel in that court. I had somebody that wouldn't allow them to do what some of the sleaze bags that you know and you know who they are. Somebody on that court, and I think I know the person, high quality person, and would not allow them to do what they would have loved to have done is convict, even though you're totally innocent, you didn't even know what the hell. So we were exonerated fully. There was no hoax. There was no anything. We were exonerated fully. But But just think of it. And the Mueller report came out, and it was a complete exoneration. But here's a guy that made up a story that tried to put my son in prison for years, and he knew the story was false.

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They made it up. How bad a person do you have to be? And I heard the son of the President of the United States is going to jail, and he'll be there for many years on a story. Now, how would you feel if you're the kid? I mean, you're a young kid and you're hearing this crap. Just think of it. But how bad do you have to be? So you know it's fake because he made it up. And he's a storyteller, too. He writes little bullshit stories. You know that, right? But I just think they're really... And I talk about the enemy from within, and they do have the greatest con people in the world. Oh, they talk about how dare. That's a threat to democracy. They're What was they're the threat to democracy. You know, the amazing thing? The amazing thing is where they say he wants to become elected and he wants to put people in jail. How terrible. That's what they've been trying to do to me for four years.

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And I should say that your son, Don, had five small children. Can you imagine threatening a man with five kids with prison for a crime he didn't commit? So you said that you were saved in the end by an angel. How have your views about God changed in the last eight years, and particularly after getting shot?

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Well, look, I've always been a believer, but I wouldn't say, there's a certain pastor, Robert Jeffrey, and I didn't know his name is Robert Jeffrey. Nice guy from Texas. And he said, You know, Trump may not be the best Christian of all. But he's the only one going to take us to the promised land because he's the best leader and he's the toughest guy, and he's going to be able to get us through this crazy life. And he was a big supporter. And now I have unbelievable evangelical and Christian support because I have. I mean, I've done a great job for them, and we're together. But he said he may not know the Bible quite as well as other people are supposed to, but he also did something. They picked Ronald Reagan over Jimmy Carter a long time ago. They said he wasn't quite as religious, but he's the guy that's going to get the job done. And I did a great job with a lot of things having to do with saving religion because these people want to put religion out of business. These people are, they go crazy when I say the enemy from within.

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And I said, look, we have China, we have Russia, we have Kim Jong Un, North Korea. We have a lot of people out there. But if you have a smart President. I had a great relationship with President Xi until the China virus came in, and that was a bridge too far, but we'll have a very good relationship. And there's reasons for them to want to like us. There's big reasons. But if you have a smart President, that smart, meaning with people, if you have a smart President, somebody that knows what's happening, you're going to be fine. But we do have an enemy from within. We have some very bad people, and those people are also very dangerous. They would like to take down our country. Country. They'd like to have our country be a nice Communist country or a fascist in any way they can. And we have to be careful of that. But the greatest con artist in the world, because as soon as I said an enemy from within, they said, oh, he wants it. He's saying an enemy from within. These are sick puppies, I'm telling you.

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Well, I mean, I got to say, just objectively, I noticed that the second you left and Biden came in, we didn't have any more Antifa riots, which makes me wonder, how is Antifa not the militia of the Democratic Party?

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Yeah, but you did have a lot of riots, and you have a lot of people being hurt in a different way. You have a lot of You have a lot of people being hurt very, very badly. We stopped. We had a period of time where they wanted to tear down statues, and they thought the statue of Abraham Lincoln should be ripped down immediately and a couple of others. And we stopped them. I signed an old bill that was old and dusty. It was like a 1910, the United Statues Act of 1910. It said that if you tear down a statue or even get near it, if you don't want it, up to the President, you go to jail for 10 years. And when they started getting a little bit frisky, I took that old dusty statue. It hadn't been used in a long time. We took it out, and they were getting a little wild. Do you remember that period of time? And I said, I had a little news conference And I said, anybody that touches a statue, they were going to rip down Andrew Johnson. They were going to rip down Andrew Jackson.

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And the rope was already on them. And I saw what was going on. And I signed that thing, and I had a news conference. I said, anybody that touches a statue, if you touch the statue, you go into jail for ten years with no parole, no early getting out. And I looked Because there was a little discord in Washington. I looked at those people from the back and I saw those people. I saw about 1,000 asses. They were facing me as they headed out of town. They were heading out of town, and we never heard from them again until recently, until recently, when you had about two months ago, you had some horrible riots in Washington, DC, where they took spray paint, and they sprayed limestone lions, and they burned the American flags badly. And I'd like to see anybody that burns the American flag one year in jail. I really believe that.

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You mentioned the enemy within. It's pretty clear. It's not clear. It's a fact that the CIA and the FBI, which are absolutely not allowed by law to have any influence in American politics because that's the end of democracy. Both of and a bunch of other intel agencies worked against you on behalf of the Democratic Party from the minute you got elected in 2016, and they're still doing it. They're working against you now. What will you do about that?

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So one thing I've learned in Washington, it's all people. You got to get the right people. So when I got elected, I was only, according to the fake news, which I think in this case, it wasn't fake. They said I was here 17 times during the course of my life, and I never stayed over. So I wasn't a Washington person. I was a New York person. I knew New York, but I didn't know Washington. And all of a sudden, I'm the President of the United States. I'm saying, I didn't know anybody. I said, Hello, anybody. Does anybody would like to have dinner or something? So I had to rely on rhinos and good people, too. Even some good rhinos, there aren't too many of them. They're a dying breed right now, I would say, actually. But I had to rely on people that I didn't know to give me information. And I won't use any specifics, but I had some people in government with me, and I realized, and they have pretty much different philosophies than I would have or than you would have. And for the most part, we had great people. I mean, we had great trade people.

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I had great military people. I had the real military, not the Millies. They're stupid people. Some of these people. By the way, every one of those people having to do with Afghanistan should be fired immediately. Every general should be fired immediately. Exactly. Biden doesn't fire anybody. That's why he never has books written about. Well, two reasons. Number one, nobody cares about him. It's not like, oh, let's write a book about Biden. Nobody cares. But the other thing is that I don't think has he fired anybody. I don't think he's fired. I fired a lot of people. I didn't like people. I fired them. And then you immediately get called by the New York Times or somebody because they're very... I mean, they truly are the enemy of the people. They're the enemy of the people. Those people right there, not all of them, but about 91 %. They're the enemy of the people. So they'll say, oh, he got fired, therefore. And the interesting thing about firing people, you can fire them really nice. I've taken months nice and easy. Have lunch, let's think about it. In the end, they get fired. And then they wake up the next morning.

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That son of a bitch fired me, right? Or you can do like I did on The Apprentice. You're fired. I'd get the hell out of here. It doesn't matter. When you fire somebody, you fire somebody. I've learned after years, you might as well just fire. Then I do another thing. I say, and I wouldn't do that again because I'm a nice person. I don't want to hurt somebody. I say, Give me a letter. You know what that means? Give me a letter. I said, Look, it's not working out. You're not the guy for me. Give me a letter of resignations. I say, Give me a letter. Everyone knows what that means. So a guy will write a letter, dear, and then he'll say he quit. And that's okay. The problem is when that happens with me, it's always a big story. So and so quits. Virtually every person that gave me a letter, I said, Give me a letter. Virtually every person that quit, they only quit because I said, essentially, you're fired. Get the hell out of here. But I want to be nice because I'm not looking to fire somebody publicly. I wouldn't do that anymore.

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I'm just going to say if somebody doesn't work out, and No matter how good you are, you always have people that don't work out. It's interesting. Sometimes people you think they're okay, maybe not so great. They turn out to be great. And sometimes you say, this guy is going to be phenomenal, and he turns out to be a stiff. But I had some people that were like a guy like John Bolton. A friend of mine calls me after I put him on. He said, Don't hire that guy. He's no good. He's bad news. He's dumb as a rock and all that stuff. I said, It's a problem, but I like him for a different reason. He's the one that got Bush, him and Cheney and a couple of other of these lunatics. They got them to go into the Middle East and to create war in the Middle East, to spend $9 trillion. Remember, I used to say, don't go into Iraq, but if you do go in, keep the oil. Well, they went in, but they didn't keep the oil. They didn't keep anything. You know, Iraq is a massive oil country. They have $400 billion right now.

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But I said, don't go in. But I said it as a civilian. So people cared because for whatever reason, I get a disproportionate amount of publicity. And someday he's going to explain to me why. Will you explain that to me? So even as a civilian, before I ran, but I'd be very much involved with things and statements, they'd call and ask. But I said, don't go in. They went in. It was such a bad decision. So Bolton, see, again, you get back. Bolton, a real dope. But I thought he'd be great because he was so stupid. He was like a boiler. Every time if somebody He got down a little tiny, crappy drone that cost about $15. He'd want to go to war with Russia. I said, no, I think he was great for me, though, for a period of time because he was a nut job. And everybody, I could see his face get red, red, red with that stupid white mustache, and he'd be ready to explode. And this was good for me. I went to Kim Jong Un in North Korea. I took this moron with me, and he never said anything.

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But when Kim Jong Un saw him, he said, oh, shit, I think the guy wants to go to war. So he was great for me to negotiate with. The same thing with Russia. When Putin saw him, I'd be very nice I'd say, Hi Vladimir, how are you doing? And then Paul is two rows back, and they'd see that moron, and they'd say, Holy shit, this guy wants to go to war with me. And I got a lot of what I wanted. We killed, as you know, the Nord Stream, too. I killed Nord Stream, too. That's the other thing that's great. Their PR sense, their political sense, very interesting. They love to say that I was a friend of Russia. I I worked for Russia. I was a Russian spy. These people are sick. The biggest job Russia ever had is Nord Stream 2. This is the biggest pipeline in the world. It goes from Russia to Germany and all over Europe. I killed it. Nobody would kill it but me. I stopped it. The thing was half-built, dead. Then there's obviously... Look, in all fairness to Biden, he was dumb, 35 Five years ago, he was a dumb guy.

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It's true. But he comes in and he approves it, but he stops the Keystone Pipeline, which really we need. That's our pipeline. But think of it. Wrong country. Yeah, but think of it. It's rough. It's rough stuff. He stopped. I said, wait a minute. It's supposed to be the other way. Let Keystone go, but stop the Russian pipeline. And I went to the Germany and the different countries, but mostly Germany, and say, so let's get this straight. We're helping you and guarding you from Russia, but you're paying Russia billions of dollars a month for oil. How's that working? That's not working, dude. I mean, the whole concept. Anyway, I stopped it. And then I keep reading stories that, oh, I was a puppet for Russia. Putin actually said to me, if you're a puppet now, I'd hate to see if you were angry because this was the biggest economic job. This was the most important thing that they probably had ever done. And I stopped it. It's all about the people, Tucker. If you have the right people, it goes beautifully. It's like in my real estate business. If I have a good building here and I have a good superintendent of the building, and that guy's doing a great job, and I've done it over the years with my father would have a building and another building, and you have a great super here and a lousy super there.

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The one here, the building, everything was perfect. Over here, everything was crappy. So now I say, Let's take this super move them over here. It worked beautifully for there, but not for there, because now all of a sudden that one doesn't... It's all about the people. You got to put the people in. And if I have any complaint about myself, and I don't really blame myself because in all fairness, I became President of the United States, and I never did this stuff before. It's pretty good. I never did it before. I was driving down Pennsylvania Avenue with Melania, the new first lady who is great. People love her. Got the number one selling book. Tucker, she's got the number. Melania right now is the number one selling. Go out and buy it. It's a great book. It really is. But But think, so I had never done it before, and I do it. We had 18 people, including me. We had debates, and all of a sudden we had 17, 16, 15, and they started disappearing. And a lot of people thought I was doing it just for fun. I think Tucker did, too. He thought I was having a good time.

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I was actually having a good time. But all of a sudden, did you notice they started to disappear? Then you have 10 people, and then You had low energy people. You had a lot of interesting people. And then I came up with nicknames for everybody. And for the most part, they were extremely destructive, right? We had some beauties. We had some Pocahontas for the... Because I don't use my Republican names anymore because I'm friendly with all those guys. We retired those days. But all of a sudden they start and then we get down to 10. So now eight are gone, and we're down to 10. Remember, we needed two stages because there were so many. I said, we have the children's stage, and then we have the grown up stage. And it was all based on the numbers, the ratings, the numbers, your popularity, how you're doing. So there were 10, there were eight, there were five, there were 4, 3, 2, 1, right? And all of a sudden, I'm the nominee. And everyone thought I didn't want to be, but I did want to be. Don't let them tell you that. They said, he didn't...

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All these geniuses, they said, he didn't really want to win. He's extremely He was only upset that he would know. If you're going to win, then some people are surprised. But you heard that, I didn't want to win, and I was miserable that I went. No, that's a false story. That's their own misinformation. A term I use a lot, and now they use it all over. I always say misinformation, disinformation, and now everybody says that, so I don't use it anymore. But what happens is I end up being the nominee, and then I watch the other side, Bernie Sanders and Crooket Hillary go at it, and it's Crooked Hillary. And all of a sudden, I'm fighting against Crooked Hillary Clinton, who's a smart woman, much smarter than Kamala, but doesn't lie as much. Hillary was a liar They're a horrible scoundrel. But this one lies so much, and she's a low IQ individual. She doesn't even know she's lying. I'm telling you, this is not what you want for your President. That has nothing to do with me. This is not what you want. She's a very low IQ individual. She's dumb as a rock, and you can't have that.

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You can't have that. We love our country too much. You can't have it. We just went through four years of it. You can't have anymore. A country can only take so much. And then I won. And so the point is that I never did it before. I'm President of the United States, and I was never even a politician before. And I picked some great people, Leightheiser in Trade. And we had a lot of great people, but What's interesting is- It's all about the people. You got to have the right people.

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When you ran in 2016, the leaders and heroes of the Republican Party were the Bush and Cheney families. And is it weird for you to see Is Liz Cheney, that'd be Dick Cheney's repulsive little daughter, running against you with Kamala Harris?

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Well, I think it hurts Kamala a lot, actually. Look, she's a deranged person. The reason she doesn't like me is that she wanted to stay in her rack. She wanted to stay. She wants to... She's a tough, tough person. People get killed all over. She's real tough, right? They're not the tough people. Don't forget, I went against her, and in her state, which is a great, beautiful state. She lost for Congress with the highest number in history. There has never been a congressperson that lost by almost 40 points. And the reason is because if they were ever in that situation, they'd quit. And she lost. She was beaten by a tremendous person, actually tremendous that I backed fully. But the reason she couldn't stand me is that she always She wanted to go to war with people. I don't want to go to war. She wanted to stay in Syria. I took them out. She wanted to stay in Iraq. I took them out. I mean, if it were up to her, we'd be in 50 different countries. And you know, Number one, it's very dangerous. Number two, a lot of people get killed. Number three, I mean, it's very, very expensive.

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That's why we owe $36 trillion. It used to be you go to war to the victor, belong to spoils, right? In other words, if you beat a country, you own that country, you take the oil, we go to war, we bomb the crap out of it, then we leave. It's almost like, what are we doing? What's going on? We bombed the whole Middle East. And then we left. What did we get? We got nothing. We destroyed. I mean, we bombed the hell out of everything. When they took out Iraq for a thousand years with different names, you had Iran and Iraq, similar powers. They were the two big ones. And for a thousand years, they would fight each other this way, this way, this way, then they'd rest, this way, then they'd rest. They were a self check. Then one day we go in and bomb the hell out of one, we destroy one. And then all of a sudden, Iran has the whole Middle East to itself. And by the way, right now, Iran has Iraq. Iraq is like a subsidiary of Iran, all right? We did so many bad moves, and her father was it.

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I was very critical of her father for years. I'd never met him, but I'd say anybody that went into the Middle East, I thought was stupid. And they say, convinced Convince Bush. Bush. Oh, he was another beauty. But he supposedly convinced Bush to go in. Him, Bolton, and some other lightweights, convinced them to go in. Let's go into the Middle East and destroy the whole place and kill millions of people. So they went in. But I was never a fan of Cheney. I was always very critical. And when I announced that I was very critical, actually, not personally, but I said, he made a horrible mistake. What are these people doing? They're spending... We spent nine trillion trillion with a T, not even with a B. Normally, I say not million, billion, but now I say not billion, trillion. We spent nine trillion dollars bombing the hell out of the Middle East. And what the hell did we get other than lots of dead people, including our people? We got nothing. So I was very critical of him. And then I announced I was running, and I was shocked that he was one of the first people.

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He endorsed me immediately. I said, That's amazing. But he had something that was very interesting. He had Scooter Liberty. I mean, these are little stories that are interesting. Scooter Liberty was a a man that could have done great destruction to Bush, and they left him behind. He was given to the prosecutors. They prosecuted him rather violently, and he was almost like a sacrificial lamb. And as somebody that knows a lot about what's happening, I said, if I were ever President, I'd do something with that guy. That guy got treated very badly, Scooter Libby. And when I became President, I actually called Dick Cheney. I said, Let me ask you about But Scooter Libby. He was best friends. He was begging Bush to give Scooter Libby a pardon, but Bush didn't have the courage to do it. It takes courage to give a pardon. It does take a certain courage because the press comes after, et cetera, et cetera. And he didn't have the courage to give him. He should have given him a pardon, but he didn't have the guts to do it. And what happened is Dick Cheney, for for years, for a long time, hated Bush.

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And don't let anyone tell you he hated. He said, You don't leave your wounded behind. And I understand that. And Scooter Libby really saved Bush because he could have said things that would have been very dangerous for Bush in terms of getting impeached, in terms of going to jail, in terms of bad things happening. But Scooter Libby didn't do that. And in all fairness to Cheney, I give him credit for this. He was very loyal to him, but he couldn't get Bush to do what he should have done. I came into government and I did what they should have done. They didn't have the guts to do it. I did it. And Scooter Libby was pardoned. I gave him a pardon. I never met Scooter Libby, by the way. Never talked to him before that. And I got a call from Scooter Libby after I did that, and he broke down in tears thanking me so much. And then Cheney called me and he said, That was so incredible what you did for Scooter Libby, because he was really on Scooter Libby. Scooter Libby took a lot of heat and took all of it and didn't say Anything bad about Bush or Cheney or anything else could have done it.

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I know because you have guys that do that and you have guys that lie, which is worse, right? But you have guys that do that. But he was very loyal to them, and he suffered greatly. I released him. Cheney called me. He said, It's one of the nicest things I've ever seen done in politics. I said, Look, I've heard for years he was treated unfairly. I've heard for years that Bush should have given him a pardon, or All I did is do something that somebody else should have done. And Cheney was so... He said, I really want to thank you. He said, Now I'm so glad that I actually endorsed you. It's amazing, but that you would do this. And I didn't I'll speak to him about it. But then go a couple of years forward or go now, and I don't blame him for sticking with his daughter, but his daughter is a very dumb individual, very dumb. She's a radical warhawk. Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her. Okay, let's see how she feels about it when the guns are trained on her face. They're all warhawks when they're sitting in Washington in a nice building saying, oh, gee, will let's send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy.

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But she's a stupid person. And I used to have meetings with a lot of people, and she always wanted to go to war with people. So whether it's her, whether it's Dick, I was surprised a little bit with Dick Cheney. I didn't know him at all. I only had essentially the one or two phone calls, and it was only a call saying, Thank you very much for doing that for Scooter Libby. That was nice. And Scooter Libby, by the way, was beyond... He couldn't believe that it happened. Nobody would do it. They should have done that for him years before. But I was a little surprised because I actually thought that Dick Cheney would go with me over his daughter, and he didn't. And you know what? I understand it. It's your daughter and you go, but she's a bad person. One other thing. They had the J6 committee, and I say this for the fake news back there. They learned a lot of phony things like that. I took on this. I took on when I was in the car, take me to the capital, I said, according to this young lady. And then they said, sure, we won't do that.

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Well, number one, if I said it, they do it. But I had two people, secret service guys, both extremely rough guys. One was like a karate champion. One was a weightlifter. She said, I grabbed the one by the neck, and when I was rebuffed, I went over to the other one, and I grabbed him in a chokehold or something. Actually, no, but How ridiculous, okay? Just not my thing. Hey, we can be tough, but it's not my thing. I wouldn't do it. I said, actually, can we go down to the capital? They said, sir, it's better if we don't. This was before anyone knew there was a problem because Because there's a lot of people and it's going to be tough. Probably not. And we had more people than I've ever seen at the ellipses, up and top, and a small group went down to the capital. But I said, can you take? They said, sir, it's really a little bit tough. I said, That's okay. Whatever you think is. She had me grabbing the one around the neck and being rebuffed. And then I grabbed the other one. And I know them both very well.

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Bobby. I know Bobby wins Bobby. And they're good. And they're good guys, too. But they're tough guys. I think they probably could have rebuffed me. I'm a little bit older, but friends of mine love the story. They said, Leave the story. You sound like the toughest dude around. It's a great story, but it was totally made up. It was all made up. But here's the end result. The J6 committee, they call it the J6 Select Committee, like select. They're not select, they're scum. So what happens? Take a look at them. They're all political hacks. But here's the thing that bothers me. They found out all this stuff was untrue. They found out her story was untrue. The two guys in the car testified. It's ridiculous, they said. It is ridiculous. Can you imagine? They also, I think, said it was the beast, and it wasn't. It was one of the other ones, but you can't even get your hands through. But to think that I would be taking on two nice young guys simultaneously. All right, Sam, I'm ripping one and ribbing the other. Are they? They're crazy. And then I went back to the to the White House, which I love.

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And I started throwing hamburgers all over the place. Okay. Finish the story. What happened is terrible. They went a year and a half. And Kevin McCarthy, who's a very nice And he made a mistake because we wanted Jim Banks and Jim Jordan on the committee. So there'd be like eight to seven or something. And called me on this. He said they didn't want Jim Jordan. He's a fighter. They didn't want Jim Banks. He's a fighter. And so Kevin said, We don't want anybody on the committee. We think this committee is a shame. And I understood that was good for a day, but for the two and a half, we had nobody to fight for us. In other words, we had a committee. You know who was representing us on the committee? Crying Adam Kinzinger and Liz, the moron, Cheney. That was who was on the committee. So these were the two Republicans And Kinzinger, who was a total whack job, and Cheney, who was worse than him. This was ours. So they talk about it was a bipartisan... They call it a bipartisan commission. And I think I'd never like the idea of not, because even if you We didn't have Jim Jordan, who's very good, and Jim Banks.

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We have a lot of great people that would have been good, and they would have mixed it up. End result. They finished their report. They burned and destroyed and deleted everything. Everything. And nobody. And you know why? Because they found out that Nancy Pelosi, it was her fault, she didn't put the security I offered 10,000 National Guard or military. They found out it was Nancy Pelosi. They found out that the story is about me attacking two very tough guys that are slightly younger than me. Just a few years. That wasn't true. They found out that much of it wasn't true, and they were very embarrassed. So the Unselect Committee, I call it the Unselect Committee, which I always thought It was a great name because it was a select. I call it the Unselect Committee of Political Thugs. What happened is, think of it, end of the story. They deleted and destroyed all evidence, All documents. There's nothing. And the reason they did it is because they were guilty as hell. It's the greatest cover up, and the fake news back there will not cover it. They've never even, I think, done a story. In other words, when you go into court, we want that information.

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There is no information. It's been destroyed. Everything's been destroyed. We have a very crooked government. Remember that? And we're going to straighten it out, and we're going to make it an honest government.

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So I have to ask you about the pardons. I keep hearing you're considering pardoning Hunter Biden. Is that true? And if so, why?

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No, I mean, I've never... Look, I don't like the idea of what's happening. I don't like it at all. They've weaponized government, but they've weaponized it against me like nobody's ever been weaponized. The big case was the documents case. We won the case in Florida. We're winning other cases, too. But I've had to devote money and time to this. Instead of running against these stupid people, I had to devote a lot of money and a lot of time, which is what they want. I had Fanny, F-A-N-I. To me, it's Fanny, but she said Fanny. I think she changed it once she became the DA. She wanted to put a little French accent on Fanny. And her lover boy, Wade, who was hired for like a million dollars because of his expertise in whatever the hell law, Riko Law, but he never did a Riko case. And then they would take sailing trips like six times during the year, six times. Who the hell goes away or to sail for six times? Nobody. And he got paid a lot of money. He took that money. They took trips. You know, there's a whole thing. But that's just one.

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They totally controlled it. They control the Manhattan DA's office. They had their man in the Manhattan DA's office. He was there. They put a man in the Manhattan. They put a man into the Leticia James office. They had a guy running the whole thing. It's all run out of Washington. They went after in the attorney general's office. They had people. But think of it. They went after their political opponent. That's never happened to any great extent, maybe a little bit someplace, I don't know. Nobody knows of it, but it's never happened to any great extent in this country. It happens in Banana Republic a lot, and it happens in third world countries, but it's never happened. They went after their political opponent. So it's hard to believe that I'm winning, it seems by a lot, if they don't cheat too much. If they don't cheat too much, we found a lot of things over the last three days. You've seen that we found a lot of votes in a certain county, in York County, Lancaster County. We found a lot of bad votes. There were 2,600 votes. That happened to be written by the same pen, same hand, same signature, same everything.

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Maybe there's an explanation for that, 2,600. But we found a lot of stuff, but we're seeing to work it out. But think of it, It's hard to believe that I'm winning the election by a lot. Now, we got to keep the cheating down. We got to keep their cheating. I love you, too, darling. Thank you. We got to keep their cheating But think of this, with all I've been through, with these animals, these animals coming and what they've done to this country, how they've hurt this country between the borders and between the weaponization. And think of it, I'm leading by a lot. I'm leading in every single swing state with all of the stuff they've done where I've spent millions of dollars. I've spent millions of dollars on legal fees. Half of my time is taken up by this. They can campaign. Half of my time is taken up, and they're the dishonest ones. They flip it. They're the dishonest ones. But it's hard to believe. I said to somebody last night, Can you believe the numbers came out last night? I'm really leading by quite a bit. Now, a lot of things can happen.

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Who knows? It flips, maybe. I don't know. But I'm leading by a lot. I said, Can you believe I'm leading by a lot and what they've done to me, that I'm leading at all, that I'm even living, is almost hard to believe. These are bad people.

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So you've expanded and changed the Republican Party. And one of the amazing things that I have learned is the Republican voters really care about issues I didn't realize they cared about, like clean air, clean soil, clean food. You've won somehow the full-throated endorsement of Bobby Kennedy, lifelong Democrat, who's now like a full-time surrogate for you.

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He's a very good man, too, by the way.

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So what's that going to look like after you get elected?

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Well, I feel interesting about this stuff. I like to, number one, get elected. I hate to talk this stuff. A lot of people, they set up. I know that even when I ran, Hillary had an office set up where they were interviewing all the... I don't want to do that. I want to get elected first, and then we'll cram a little bit. But I don't like doing it. No, I remember she set up this big office. They're interviewing people for jobs, and actually you're supposed to do it. But I want to win. I want to win in five days from now. It's almost four days from now. In five days from now, when we have a victory, we're going to have the best people. Here's the one difference, one big difference between now and 2016. I know Washington and the people through real testing, better than probably any human being that's ever hired people. So I went from not knowing anybody and having to rely on, in all fairness, Mike Pence and many other people. I had Mike Pence, and I had others, and they would recommend people. Slopy Chris Christie recommended some people, and I wouldn't have used him Had I known.

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But you rely on people. And by the way, in a way, I hate talking about this because we had mostly great people. Think of it. We had the greatest economy in the history of our country. We rebuilt the entire US military. We defeated ISIS, and we had no wars. We cut more regulations than anybody in the history of the country times five. But we had the best economy in the history of our country. I We took in billions and billions of dollars in taxes and tariffs from China. We had an unbelievably successful administration. We were energy independent. We didn't need anybody's energy. We had so much oil. We didn't know what to do with it. And now take a look. Four years ago, we were energy independent. Think of it. And today we're taking CAR from Venezuela. They don't really have oil. They have You have to heat the hell out of it. Of course, you're more to heat it than it does to sell it. But we are going to Venezuela. Think of it. Venezuela was like the enemy. We are now giving... I got a cake a month ago. You saw it? They foreclosed on his plane, but they give him billions of dollars.

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I said, that's okay. He's going to buy a much better plane with the money we give him, right? But we go to Venezuela for oil. We were energy independent. We We have more liquid gold, that's oil and gas, under our feet than Saudi Arabia, then Russia. And we were going to be not only energy independent within six months, we were going to be energy dominant. We started off at number four. And when I left, four years later, we were number one. We were much better and bigger than Russia or Saudi Arabia. Think of that. But we were going to be triple the size of both, and we were going to supply to Europe. We were going to supply it to Asia. All over the world, we were going to supply. We would have made a fortune. But then we had a little mishap with the election where I got more votes than any sitting President in the history of our country. You do know that more than any sitting President, the only one that supposedly got more votes, and I wouldn't believe it, was Sleepy Joe Biden, who campaigned brilliantly from his basement. People had no interest in this guy, but he got more votes than anybody in the history of the United States of America.

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So anyway, so bad things happened, but we had something going that nobody had. I mean, we had an unbelievably successful administration, but I also put in people, some people that in retrospect, I wouldn't have used. But I had to rely on other people for recommendations. Now, I know everybody. I know the dumb ones, the smart ones, the weak ones, the strong ones. I know everybody. And I've got people that I think will be great. With that being said, you pick people and sometimes they disappoint you. Everybody knows that. And then you pick people, and sometimes they turn out to be better than you thought. But for the most part, I tell you what, I think we have some incredible... We have some incredible people in Washington. We really do. We have some great people. And I now know, I believe, For the most part, I know who those people are.

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Do you think Bobby Kennedy and Elon Musk will be influential figures without being specific about what those roles will be in your administration?

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Yeah, I do. I think so. Look, Bobby, let's talk two of them. Elon is so good. You know where he is right now? He's in Pennsylvania campaigning for me. Elon, that rocket ship, right? No, it's so great. He docked that big monster, 22 stories. I thought the sucker was going to be... You know, it's a very crazy story. I saw it coming in on television. I was talking to a... I told the story tonight, but I thought it was a very... I'm talking to this very important guy, not as important as Tucker, but important. A big shot. Somebody everybody would know. Talking to him, bored. I'm bored, Steph. He's a boring guy.

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Oh, who is he?

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So anyway, I'm talking to this very big shot, important guy, and I have the television muted. This thing's going on. The whole thing was really boring. Then I see this monster thing coming down. I see fire all over, fire left, right, and I'm looking at him saying, Hey, could you hold it a minute? Yeah, sure. I said, Yeah, I just want to see something. I put the phone down. I forgot, and I didn't pick him up for like 50 minutes. And five, oh. And you know what? Because of the fact that I was President, and I very well might be President again. He held on the whole time. Can you believe it? But it's true. I picked the phone up. I said, oh, shit, the phone. Hello? Hello? He goes, hello, the poor guy. I But I had to see this, and I turned it on. Now you have to understand, it left. I saw it leave, and it was beautiful white paint. Now it's coming down, and it's just dark brown. It's coming down at 10,000 miles an hour or something. I think it's 10,000. It's coming down at levels of speed that nobody ever even conceived of.

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And it's all burned and where it's rough, but it's coming, and now it's turned around. It turns around, and you have the gantry the big, beautiful gantry, and it's coming, and it's going to... I said, oh, it's going to crash because you see at that bottom, this section right here, that sucker. I'm going, come on, baby. Come on. And I didn't know, actually, if I'm watching a science fiction movie or am I watching the news? I didn't know what the hell I'm watching. But I see this thing coming down, and all of a sudden it's going into the steel, the big steel gantry up here because the thing's like 20 stories tall, too. It's going to crash. I said, oh, shit, it's going to crash. Coming down in the lower section, right? It's coming right. It's ready. And then all of a sudden, fire, flame, names come pouring out of the lower section. It's jets, and they're pushing it over right here, and then it comes down. And I'm saying, I mean, is that the coolest thing you've ever seen, right? Is that the cool? If you don't think I want a guy like that working for us.

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So we've got to cherish our brilliant people. They don't treat him right. We've got to cherish our brilliant people because we don't have too many of them. Nobody does. Nobody does. So, Elon, I'll talk Elon first. Elon wants to... By the way, I'm having a great time up here. Are you having a good time? This guy. Is he the greatest interviewer? He asked me one little question. I talked for 20 minutes, and they're going to say he's better than Larry King at his prime, right? It's an easy job. Is that the greatest? You're an easy interview. He is great at what he does. If you like him, I will tell you that. So with Elon, here's a theory, and he's right, that there's unbelievable waste and fraud. I saved much more than a billion dollars when I came into the White I was in one day when I said, I'm not going to pay that much to Boeing for Air Force One. And they ended up taking much more than a billion dollars off the price. It took about a couple of weeks saying, I'm not buying it. No, I don't want it. But there's a plane that you're saving much more than a billion dollars, and you've got thousands of things like that, not as much, and in some cases, much more.

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They're building an aircraft carrier, the Jural Ford. The thing came in like a $20 billion for a boat, $20 billion. And it doesn't work because they decided to use electric catapults that throws the planes off instead of steam. They decided to go electric. Why are they people that going all electric? By the way, I'd end the electric mandate on cars day one. You should have electric, but you got to have gasoline. You got to have everything. That'll come off on day one. Many things will be done on day one. Your head will spin when you see what's going to happen, this stupidity. But what I like about Elon, Elon is a great cost cutter, and Elon thinks he can cut the costs of our government by $2 trillion. That's the entire deficit because it's now at a level... By the way, we have the biggest deficit we've ever had under this stupid group of people. But he thinks he can cut $2 trillion without affecting anybody just through. And I think he can do that. I do. I believe that. And that's really what he wants to do. He doesn't want to work. He doesn't want to become a secretary of something.

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I mean, I'd love to have him, to be honest with you. But he doesn't want to. He's doing a couple of other things, like rocket ships. You know, he sends... Tucker, he sends 92% of the rockets that go up are his rockets. Think of that. Russia, China, and us, 92 % are him. And he's the only one I asked him. I said, are you the only one that can do that? He's the only one that can land it like that. And he said, It'll be years before they can do it. He's a great guy. He wants to cut costs. That's what he wants to do. He wants to save the country. He said that if Trump doesn't get elected, the country is finished because he understands me. And I got to know him a little bit in the White House, but much more so over the last the last few months. He endorsed me. He gave me an endorsement that was so beautiful. He said, If Trump doesn't win, I think this country is finished. He's worried about the country. He's worried about it. He thinks he can save $2 trillion, in which case we don't have a deficit.

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The whole thing would be $2 trillion a year, by the way, a year. And I will definitely know Bobby is great. The only thing I'm a little bit worried about with Bobby, I want him to work on health. And I think there's nobody like it. I mean, I think he's right with so much of the things he's talking about, because we're not a healthy country. If you look at some of the countries in Europe, they're much more healthy than us. We're a rich country. I mean, we got to get rid of a little debt, but that's okay. I've typically been very good at that. I've been very proficient at that. I've had it both ways. I've had a lot of debt, and I've had very little debt. And as you get older, having very little debt is much better, believe me. But you know what? He really wants to, with the pesticides and all the different things. I said he could do it. He could do anything he wants. He wants to look at the vaccines. He wants everything. I It's great. I think it's great. The only thing I say to Bobby is, leave the liquid gold under our feet alone.

[02:09:25]

We want to have a little gasoline because you know what I'm going to do? We're going to unleash much of that. And we're going to... Germany tried to go all green, and they almost destroyed their country. And that was the end of Angola, by the way. That was it for Angola. They went all green. They had windmills all over the place, and the wind stopped blowing for a couple of weeks, and that was almost the end of Germany, actually. But the only thing, and I say it jokingly, but I say, Bobby, I love you looking at health. I want you to take care of the women of this country, the men of this country, and the children of this country. You don't have to worry about anybody else. But the one thing you got to do for me, Bobby, is leave what's under my feet The oil and gas. You leave that to me, Bobby, because we're going to make so much damn money, and it's clean. It's going to make it clean. We're going to make... Look, China doesn't have that. That's why China is going electric. If we go electric, we're playing right into their hands.

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We have oil and gas. They don't. They have things for making the batteries and other things. They're going to make the electric cars. We're not going to be making the electric cars. The problem with the electric cars, and I think they're great in a smaller application. They don't go far, they cost too much, and they're going to be made in China. Three minor problems, okay? But if you listen to this government, they want to make army tanks electric because Because they want to invade countries with their army tanks in a very friendly way from the pollution standpoint. You know what you have to do? The batteries are so big. They have a design where the army tank is going in and they have like a wagon, like a child's wagon with these massive batteries. We're going to have green wars? These people are crazy. No, they want trucks to be all-electric. The problem is they don't go far. That's a problem. You know what else is a problem? So the trucking industry comes to see me because they think I'm going to win. And they come in to see me. And these guys come in, and they're great guys.

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They've been in like Roger Pensky. How good is Roger? The guy's won, but he's in the trucking business, too. He's won like 19 Indianapolis 500. Think of how good this guy is. Japan spends billions on coming up with a race car. Germany spends billions. I don't know if they've ever won, maybe one or two. Roger Pensky is an incredible guy. He won 19 Indianapolis 500s. It might even be 20. That was two years ago. I gave him the presidential Medal of Freedom because I said he deserves it. After the 19th, I said he deserves it. But the truckers came in to see me. They say, sir, they want us to go all electric, and it'll destroy the industry. Why? Because a truck is two and a half times heavier if it's run by a battery. I said, That's not good. I don't like that. What does that do to the bridge? He said, How did you pick it up so fast, sir? Every bridge in the United States would have to be rebuilt. Every roadway would have because they're not set for that weight. Little problem. They don't go far, right? They only go. I said, How many times would you New York to LA, how many times would you have to stop?

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Six times, sir. Six. How many times would you have to stop if you loaded up with diesel fuel? We wouldn't have to stop at all, and we can come back a little bit of a ways, too. I said, That's a problem. They have a lot of problems, right? Another problem is the battery is much bigger than the tanks of diesel, so it would take a lot of their payload. They said, Have you explained this to the government? Yes. What do they say? We don't care. We want all electric. I mean, these are problems that, fairly short term, are absolutely insurmountable, but the government is pushing them anyway. So we have to bring common sense back to our country. We have to have borders. We have to have fair elections. We shouldn't be worried about how they're stealing in Pennsylvania. We should have fair elections. We should have one day elections, all paper ballots, voter ID, and we're finished.

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So I know you've been up. Your schedule is, and this is not a talking point. Your schedule is beyond belief. And I know you've been working since 6:00 AM this morning. I don't even know what time it is or what time zone we're in. So this is my last question to you. But after almost 10 years of doing this, going around the country, speaking to huge audiences, almost a decade, you're four days from... That's it. Are you sad about that? How do you feel?

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So we have these rallies, and it's nice to have a President that doesn't need a teleprompter. Isn't it really nice? Because you can't have successful rallies If you read it all, they were, Everybody would pick up. We have great... We have the greatest rallies. Even look at this crowd, although I would assume they're here for Tucker, mostly Tucker. Look at this crowd of people you have here. This is not a normal... This isn't normal. And some people, too. No, this isn't a normal situation. I mean, what the hell time is it? And you go back, this is a monster building. I don't know how many people you have here, but you also have a lot of people outside. When we were driving up, there were thousands of people outside. So I was making a couple of days ago, and I said something that I've never said. I said, I've been doing this for nine years, and you've been with me. This is the greatest political movement in history by far. It's MAGA. It's called Make America Great Again. I'm going to be nice to him. When our President No, when our slightly off. I mean, look at the way he performed in the debate.

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They should have never taken it away from him. Look at the way he performed. He was brilliant. Okay. But they knew that a long time ago, okay? And she knew that, too. Our country is at danger. We're dealing with Kim Jong-Un. We're dealing with very... We're dealing, by the way, with unbelievably smart, talented, vicious people that are at the top of their game. And we're dealing with people that, number one, aren't smart. They never were. They never were. She wasn't. She was a bad student. She couldn't pass her damn law exam, okay? She wasn't smart, and he was definitely not smart. And we're dealing with other people that are at the absolute top of the poll, and we can't do that. That's a great danger. And people should have let us know. But I was talking and I said, we've been doing this together for nine years. We love these people. The people are so great. It was like a sea of red, the red hat. And I said, we've been doing this together for nine years because a year before I started in terms of before we won, almost a year anyway. And I said, You know what?

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It's sad in a way, because there's never been rallies like this. When that sleaze bag said during the debate, she said, Oh, Oh, your rallies aren't well-attended, and people leave. They don't leave, and they're really well-intended. We can't get places big enough. And then I said, No, no. The rallies are the biggest in history. We never haven't, just like this, this is a part of a rally. We never had an empty seat, and nobody leaves early. And you know what? If I saw people leaving, you know what I do? Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to make America great again. Goodbye, everybody. And everybody would be happy. Nobody would leave. But we don't have to do that. Nobody leaves. It's a love fest. It's never happened before. This has never happened before. He's a big fan of Ronald Reagan, so am I. But if Ronald Reagan, let's say, went to New Mexico like I did today, we probably had 25,000 people standing in an airport early in the morning today. But we have massive crowds. Look, we had 107,000 people in New Jersey. We had 101,000 people in Butler just a few weeks ago, right? We had 114,000 people in California a month ago, right?

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114,000. The owner said, the person that has the land, the nice guy. He said, you get bigger crowds than these guys that play guitar, and I don't have a guitar. So this has been a love fest. But I said, and I meant it, too. I said, you know, we've done this for nine years, and it's said, I never thought of it, actually. It'll never happen. It'll never happen again. It's never going to happen again. In four years, somebody's going to be running. Could be JD. It could be this one. By the way, he's doing a good job. He's doing a good job, but it could be JD, and he'll have competition no matter what. But when you have a rally, they're going to have 250 or 300 people. If Ronald Reagan came back from the dead at the height of Ronald Reagan, if he went to California to have a rally, he'd have 250, 300 people in a ballroom someplace. We have 50, 60, 70, 80, 100,000 people. And in all fairness, I don't know. I have no idea. I've been doing this all day. I have no idea what time it is, but I know it's not exactly prime time for doing this stuff.

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And you look up into the rafters of this massive building and you don't have... There's no empty seat. There's no anything. By the way, and for whatever reason, I can't explain the reason, but it'll never happen again. And there'll be somebody running, and he'll be the hot one next year, and he'll come here, and he'll go there, and he'll have 200, 300 people. That's what it's going to be. My consultants was telling me that. Said, We've consulted for 25 years, if we'd have 300 people, we were thrilled. If we'd have 200 people, we were thrilled. And you have like 30, 40, 50, 60. In South Carolina, we had 88,000 people. In Alabama, we had 68,000 people. It's an amazing phenomenon. And I'm not giving myself. It's just I'm giving you the credit. You're tired of being the stupid country. We've become a stupid country. We were run by stupid people. And you're tired of it. So I said to myself the other day, Tucker, it's sad. And I was telling the people, because it'll never happen again. This is never going to happen again. I don't care. I just don't believe it's never happened in any country.

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When Biden got up with a red background, the pink background, and he looked like the devil, he looked so stupid, right? And he said, We will stop MAGA. Maga, we're going to... He said, listen, you stupid bastard. Maga means... Because I think if you asked him, what does it mean? He doesn't know. Maga means make America great again. That's what MAGA means. So for the first time, I never said it to anybody. I never really thought about it that much. But all of a sudden it was down to maybe ten or eight or nine days, a few days ago, right? I said, in ten days, this will never happen again because I'm not running again and you're going to lose interest. We're going to meet, but we're going to meet on a different basis. We're going to meet on the basis of fixing our country, and we'll meet, but it'll be different than having rallies and having things where you have elections and all. It's never going to be what we've done together. We got to win, first of all, but we are leading. Just keep the cheating down. The only thing can stop us is the cheating.

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It's the only thing that can stop us. If we win, it's the biggest event in political history. It's the biggest event in political history. And it's going to be the most important. I believe that the next election is the most important election in the history of the country. I really believe that the one that's coming up in four days. But I said to myself, it's sad. I told the people, some people are in the road, they're crying. We have people that have gone We have 200 and 250 rallies. We have the beautiful ladies of North Carolina. We have the front road, Joe. I mean, we have people that have gone to hundreds of rallies. I said, this will never happen again. I don't believe it will. I don't think it will ever happen again. And we'll get together, but it'll be different. We're going to get together and we're going to make America great again. We're going to fix our country. We're going to have strong borders, and we're going to have fair elections, and hopefully we'll get a fair press eventually, because that's a very important element. You need a fair press. He and I understand the press because you give them a story.

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You know exactly everything that happened, and they'll write it the opposite, like the exact opposite. They'll write it to actually hurt you. It's hard to believe. That's the other thing. You wonder, why do they do that? It's so bad. And they've lost such credibility. When I first came to politics, the news, the press had a 92% approval rating. Yesterday, it hit 18 %. And I'm actually very proud of that because I've exposed them for being a total fraud. They're a fraud, but hopefully, they won't be a fraud for long. Hopefully, That'll straight out because that's a very important... The press, a free press, a real press, is a very important part of greatness, of making a country great. They're almost like the glue that keeps it together, but they're also like, in a way, a police force that keeps it honest, but they're so dishonest that they have no credibility. Think of it. Sixty minutes asks her a question. And I brought a lawsuit in this today. You saw that? Sixty minutes because it's so wrong. She gives an answer that only a moron would give. You could give bad answers, but this was an answer that a person who is not a smart person, a person who got the lowest score, perhaps in the history of the bar exams.

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She failed the bar exam, okay? But this is a person, this is a very low IQ individual. This is the answer of a very low IQ individual. And by the way, I think everybody that runs for President or vice President should have cognitive tests. They should have testing because... And I don't mean by age, because some of the greatest leaders in the world were in the '80s or the '80s period because there is an experience thing and other things. Some of the greatest leaders in history, you look back, and I know many people that are in their '80s that are... I know one person From '80 to '90 made billions of dollars, and he was a failure for his whole life. And you know him. I'll tell you who it is later. But he was a failure for his whole life. But I said to myself, it's sad that in a way, this whole great thing that we've built is never going to happen again. But what is going to happen again is we're going to turn our country around. We're going to make it great. And we're going to be so proud of ourselves because we have to save our country.

[02:25:42]

Our country is going bad. We're a failing nation. As I say, we are a nation in decline. We are a nation in very serious decline. And look at what these stupid people have done. They've allowed Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and others to get together in a group. This is impossible to think. When I was a young guy, I always loved the whole thing, the concept of the history and all of the things that can happen. The one thing, and I had a professor at the Wharton School of Finance, but we had history classes also. He said, The one thing you never want to happen is you never want Russia and China uniting. We united them because of the oil. We united them. Biden united them. It's a shame. The stupidity of what they did. I'm going to have to ununite them, and I think I can do that, too. I have to ununite them. But early on, I've read and you've learned, you never want Russia and their natural enemies because Russia has massive land and China needs it. They need that land. China doesn't have the land for the population. Russia has... If you ever look at the size of the Russian landmass, it's like four times or five times.

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It doesn't have like 12 time zones or something. It's massive. They're a natural enemy, and we've allowed them to get together. It's such a dangerous thing. Another thing that we're doing is we're losing the dollar as the standard because of these people that are so So if we lose the dollar as the standard, that's like losing a war, and it'll never happen with me. There's no way that will happen with me. We got to put it back together. We cannot. That is like losing a war So we're going to get together, and hopefully we'll get together a lot, but we're going to get together, and I think it's going to be very happy times. We're going to put our country back together, and we're going to make it the greatest country in the world again. And you're going to be very proud of all these rallies that we had. And I just want to thank you for being here so late in the evening. I've been doing this all day, and this guy is fantastic.

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President Donald J. Trump, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you.