This week in Darby, Montana, a twisted plot and fear campaign results in a vicious murder that shocks everyone around until they find out what really happened. At that point, shocked doesn't even begin to describe it. Welcome to small town murder.

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Let's do this. I can't wait to go on a trip. I'm already riveted. I'll baby, we're going somewhere. We have not been in a long time here. We are going all the way to Montana. It's been a long ass time. Darby, Montana, to be in particular, which I have never heard of. No, we didn't know that existed. It was my grandparents old roommate, though, Darby, Mont. Or Montana. She was as big as Montana, but her name was Darby.

She's a big lady. They nicknamed Darby Montana. Because all the town. All the whole town. Yeah. This is on the western border of Montana. Like the county it's in sticks out. Like its own little panhandle, slick, smooth, and then this little jagged thing sticks out here, it's about an hour and 15 minutes to Missoula.

OK, you want to go to, I don't know, a midsize small town in the metropolis of Santa Monica, about four hours to Spokane, Washington. Oh, it's actually closer to Spokane than it is to stuff on the other side of the state, like Billings and all that. So it's it's interesting. In about five hours to Stanford, Montana, which was our last episode, episode 86 in September of twenty eighteen and double digit show, it's been two years since we've handled Montana.

People have requested and requested and just some of the less populated states tend to tend to just get a little less listens because people aren't from there. They've never been there. But I don't know why the hell that would matter either way and I wouldn't matter to me at all by any of these places. I just want to hear a crazy story. It doesn't matter. But so we've kind of avoided Montana, but we're back now. This is in Ravelli County.

And just my brain makes it look like Ravioli County and more.

So I just want to say it's Ravioli County, Montana, which would make me so happy. And I want to live in Ravioli County, don't you? No matter where it is, no matter where I live in Ravioli County, I feel like I would feel just like a good father, you know, all the time.

I want to sit back with a glass of wine, smoke a cigarette, even if you don't smoke because you're just full and you've had sausage or even before you've eaten.

Yeah, hold on. Let me have my before meal smoked ravioli.

You got to have like a sambuca afterwards to relax. So the area code here for zero six, it's a tiny, tiny little town. It's one of these, one of these little tiny town centers and then a bunch of big spread out ranches out there. So the town is only point six, three square miles. Oh, the motto here for this town. I got to give it to them. It's honest sometimes, you know, sometimes it's really fluffy and sometimes it's just bullshit marketing.

Yeah, this is pretty honest quote. Even we don't know why the fuck we're out here. That's pretty honest. I got to give it. Yeah. You know, or you could just say, you know, there's not enough of us to even have a motto.

What do we care if you if you if they had a motto and they like put it on the side of the freeway for the exits, one could say you're almost and then the next one could say you just missed it.

You're just gone and it's gone. And the next sign, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. You missed it. Fucking God for signs already out and you're out. That's it. See those ranches. Yeah. There you go. So the name of the town.

Welcome to come back again. Yeah. The that's funny. The word derby I guess is the is Salish. It's some sort of like native language from oh back. Got it in that language it means place where they would lift something either that or they call it. I don't know what that makes a lot of they call it Salish. I'm not sure. I remember when my grandparents roommates then was Davíð.

They would need to lift her while I was going to say that it would be hard to live here. Yeah. That place where we need to live.

Well, for her, that would be like what a she is a car lift. I don't know, feel bad. I don't know this woman.

And you know what I'm not making I don't know if you're making fun of this. I feel bad too. But I kind of. How long ago is this. Thirty years.

She was like, yeah, she was talking about it. She was so mean. Oh OK. Well that she was so mean to me.

Yeah I get it. I remember being like eight being like why do they have this fat bitch living down there. That's see that's what they me when you're a child, an adult is mean whatever physical attribute they have. That's a bad physical attribute. She could have been gorgeous. You're like, look at her and her tits. What a bitch. You know what I mean? You would have still hated her. Who wouldn't have mattered? You would have you choose the songs.

You know what I hate blondes with big boobs. That's all you have for the rest of your life.

Well, I just hate them. I still like them. So not that they're against overweight people, but she lived in the basement that was finished.

It was beautiful. And whenever I'd stay there, they'd have me go down, stay in the basement, in the second bedroom, and she'd be down there and I'd be watching TV and she just be bitching. Turn that down. Turn it off. And I'm nine bitch.

Shut up me alone watching Hulk Hogan body slam. Forty five. You live with my grandparents in a basement. What are you doing. Yeah. You don't belong here. Figure it out. You're not their child. They're my grandparents, not yours. You're not their child.

Do you get that? Jesus.

So from the website here, it says this is their pitch. Yeah. From which, by the way, it says Derby on the website. It's like the most standard brand. Somebody went on the most basic website building site and we're like, I did it. It says downtown of Derby official website that's not even caring, located in the spectacular Bitterroot Mountains of western Montana. Spectacular. Yeah, the town of that is a beautiful like, if you like, that big open space shit.

I can't stand that shit. But if you're into that. I feel claustrophobic the more open everything is, I'm like, there's just too much of a panic, too, like, holy shit, there's just too much of it. It's like if you're in the middle of the ocean, it feels the same way, like you can't see land. It's open water. There's just too much of it. I feel the same way in my water with open land.

I'm going to drown out here. Like if there was an earthquake in a crack open and I fell in it, no one would notice. There's no one around. I just die. Hole in the earth so much there, I can't breathe.

It's too much, too much air. I can't see with all the sky. It's just too much. Yeah. Yeah. Take it. It's weird too.

And things are wide open like that for me because like you can see a storm coming you know. Oh yeah. For miles forever anyway. It's weird, ominous and shit. Now it's bizarre. Screw that. So Darby hosts a national sporting competitions while supporting top resorts locally unique shopping, dining and manufacturing businesses along with an excellent school district. You can easily call Darbee home. Yeah, it's mostly a tourist town, by the way. Of course, it's kind of like it seems like it's got the same vibe as like for the non ranchers, for the people who are like buying houses from the outside, it's almost like an Aspen type of thing.

Not that they're skiing, but it's like, ah, like Wyoming. Attractive. Yeah. For people to get away. Yeah. There's towns in Wyoming like that where you can go like some CEO can like go play rancher for the weekend because he bought two hundred acres, you know what I mean.

Listen, I have horses out there. You know, David Letterman goes to Montana. That's what the ads for the rich fuck's going on. Like I rough it. I'm a cowboy, you know. Yeah, I have a fourteen million dollar state. I go out there to rough it.

Sure. There's thirty people here to wipe my ass. I mean I don't get by fucking rattlesnakes.

I mean if the horse is dirty they'll clean it off before I got out. I don't want to get all dusty and shit.

Don't get me wrong, it's still I'm not feeding the fucking thing gets endless recreational opportunities for outdoor enthusiasts. Derby offers you and your family, all of you a part of the West that will never that you'll never forget. Hope to see you soon. So it's it's first settled in nineteen eighty two. It's the Valley's southernmost town here. It was originally called something way more ridiculous than Derby is a fine name for Doolittle. That was the name of the town.

You can't call your town Doolittle Delo too. Like Doctor not you know, it's not good. Know who's going to do little Montana. That sounds fucking. You have to take like a turnip truck there. It sounds like that's really silly. Then they change a name to Harrison.

So they were like, all right, Harrison, that's a lot of towns named Harrison. That's a good, strong name. But then they realized it was already a town in Montana named Harrison as a bunch of confusion with the mail. It was a disaster. You don't look. Yeah. So then the local postmaster, James Darby, sent his name in and was like, just call it out. Name it Darby Keigo. Who cares? Yeah, well, it was like nobody there.

So it's like it doesn't matter. We're going through a lot of shit for for the name of this tiny little building that letters are going to come in and out. You're going to get your bills from.

It's hilarious that they didn't even check to see if there's another town, no state. They just nailed Sarasohn, a fucking president. There's one now but his name.

And after that, they thought of Washington like, come on now, get down.

The list of presidents you get to. Harrison is probably not one now, right? He didn't last long. So the name was accepted and it was fine. So at the time, the town had a general store, a saloon, a stable and a boarding house. So it was your typical, like movie Old West Town with the wooden planks and all that shit. The town grew at times and they got a bank and a drugstore, a newspaper and a and a theater and all this type of shit.

So it became like somewhere that you could live and not be, you know, out on the on an island. So the big thing happened. Fire happened in nineteen ten and destroyed everything. Just everything here fucking gutted things. It says here that I found a newspaper account of it and it says that let's see here. Where is it.

OK, a holocaust of wildfire. They called it holocaust. Wow.

Destroyed more than three million acres of forest and burned four towns. Fuck close with the no. Wow. The effects are still being felt. On August 20th, winds of hurricane force swept out of the Snake River plains to fan to life an estimated seventeen hundred thirty smoldering fires in Montana, northern Idaho and eastern Washington. Holy shit.

Almost 2000 fires from one from from the Snake River.

Yeah, the winds came up to 85 people died.

Unbelieve were taken by the flames because it happened so fast and they couldn't get away. They just got like a flood. It was like a flood of fire tear. It's fucking terrifying. That's why the West is terrifying. They're so bunch of towns got destroyed. Wallace, Idaho, and then a bunch of in Taft, bunch of other towns in Montana totally destroyed. So. That's not great. Obviously, it ended up switching to kind of logging and cattle ranching and agriculture after a while became the main deal here.

Let's see, Darby had the first all woman council in the state in 1930. Awesome. Yeah, 1930. That happens. That's pretty far ahead of its time there. A little bit, you know. Not bad. Good for them. 1917, Darby became incorporated. They elected a blacksmith, their first mayor. They got electricity in 1930. Too late to the game on that fella. So, yeah.

Wow. I mean, they had to run it out there, but holy shit. Nineteen thirty two. Susan, Susan. Candling for a long time.

By 1920, if we don't have lights I'm moving. I'm sorry. I get that. It was the last we had to wait a while but there's people dancing the Charleston and fucking like drinking all night partying and no. What year did this go down.

I'm living like it's the postman, for Christ's sake. Nineteen, twelve, thirteen, fourteen. And it had electricity on a fucking boat and a ball. There's electricity everywhere by nineteen thirty two.

Everybody has electricity. This is bonkers for its and I don't have electricity and they got a water system in nineteen fifty nine. Jesus Christ didn't get us. They got sewage and a sanitary lagoon in nineteen sixty three. Gross. That sounds like the most disgusting leaching field. It's a shit pit. Yeah. Sounds absolutely hideous. Hideous. I hope that is so far from town.

I'm fucking grossed out already.

You know you can smell that there's a trench because there's no tubes back then.

Right now it a goddamn pit and I'm sure they had some kind of you just go throw the bucket in the hole, just shit in the hole and save save us all and save all of what Jesus Christ. And just walk on over shit into the hole directly. Dump the damn bucket, you lazy motherfuckers. So the film Disorganized Crime was filmed here. Have I seen that. I've seen it in nineteen eighty nine to nineteen eighty nine comedy. So I know you've seen it Judge Reinhold.

No it is Fred Gwynne who is obviously Lou Diamond Phillips.

Diamond Phillips, Oklahoma. Corbin Bernsen. Ed O'Neil. I definitely see Daniel Roebuck and Hoyt Axton. Oh my God. I got to watch it. Yeah, it's not a good movie, but it's one of those movies we would have seen as kids because it's got a bunch of people we recognize and it's silly and funny. And they would have put it in the theaters with all those people in it. It was yeah, it was like a marketing campaign, although it had commercials, definitely.

I remember the commercials, poor reception by critics. Siskel and Ebert gave it two thumbs down. OK, not great. They said lack of detail given to the heist plan. That's never going to work in a high school, Neal.

It's a it's a you can't you can't review this on the same caliber that you're reviewing the Ocean's Eleven. Fucking you know what I mean? Why don't you ask goofball movie dupa. They also said that it relies on slapstick and cornball barnyard humor. Sounds good, right? When we were ten. Yeah, we were. That would have been very beautiful. Perfect frequency of chase scenes and moments where characters fall in mud and manure. That's pretty funny.

I just smiled and you laughed when I said that. That's just where where we're at.

They said it was like dust. Yeah. And I'm like, great. I said, oh, that sounds good. I want to see people follow manure. I want to see that a really angry guy, blah, blah, blah, blah, then slip and fall. That's hilarious.

I want to see a chase scene and somebody ends up in shit on a chase scene and somebody falls on my end of the chase. The chase is over because someone got stuck in manure. That's all we want, all of it. And also Yellowstone is filmed there. That's a newer series. Creators Kevin Costner's in it. It sounds boring as shit follows the Dutton family, led by Don John Dutton, who controls the largest contiguous ranch in the United States under constant attack by those at borders.

Let's watch him with those kind of movies. Now he is obsessed with the van.

Now he dances with Wolves Oscars for thirty years ago. He's a guest with the lobster that he did other things. Yeah, there's always a to this bullshit. He's always obsessed with the West Coast man. Yeah, he's always obsessed with the West. The postman is wonderful, by the way. It's the worst it's the best bad movie ever. It's I've seen it a hundred times. It's the best bad movie ever. Has a Southern accent in the beginning and then it goes away and he's got it in a couple of scenes.

His daughter wants to, like his real life biological daughter from real life, wants to fuck him in the movie. The hell kind of shit is that? It's ridiculous.

I just don't understand. His is infatuation with just he wants to always have just just enough dust on him just to make it. So he wants to have a duster. He'd like to have a hat accessible.

Not on all the time yet. I know now he was in Waterworld and he was like, I'm never doing anything with water again. I want it dry only on the very day. Always. Always. So I have a couple reviews here, three stars. This one cute little town that looks like a perfect tourist area. This is exactly kind of Old West. Yeah, this is the Old West. And they just keep it like that fantastic candy store to some areas.

Look. Nice to live in, unfortunately, the majority of the town could use an update as it looks a little rundown. Yeah, I'm sure it has. Its all covered in dust. Derby Derby is located at the very south end of the Bitterroot Valley. Here's another one. This is five stars up against the beautiful mountains. There are activities to do year round. There is not a large selection of restaurants and bars, but everyone is very friendly.

OK, great, because I know the mayor probably wrote that they're thrilled to have you there.

They're happy to have you people in this town, population six hundred fifty three. Oh, it's a small and it's remote, so it's not like that. And then there's a town next to it. This is just this and then nothing for a long time. So it is remote.

It's up five percent since 1990.

More females than males, which five five percent. That's the lowest we've ever had. Yeah, it's not much 1990 there was six hundred twenty five people. Yeah. So not, not too have we had them where it was like down here we've had that, we've had reductions like I was in India. Just Yeah. It's just kind of stayed steady more the more females is weird because it's like a usually in the ranching logging towns it'll be more male but not, not here.

So also because there's old people. So they you outlive us. Right. Women are going to outlive us, especially outlive people who have been ranching for fucking fifty years. That's why you're not going to live to be 90 most of the time.

There are very few loggers, the Brawne and looks great because he died young. Well he's he's only he's only seventeen years on the ranch and he looks like he's got thirty eight. Thirty nine. But he's only seventeen died four years later. Yeah he's done. He's spent the median age. Here's forty eight point one so it's a little older all the above. Forty five years old. Demographics are high. There's like no kids here. All the kid demographics are low, not none, but there's way less than normal, less married people here than normal.

The household sizes are smaller people, couple people hanging out looking at the expenses. It sounds like single with no children is higher. All that shit race of this town, shockingly, eighty seven point six percent white. Yeah. Zero point zero percent black. No, no, not not a one in the group here. Nary an Asian to be found either a zero point zero percent Asian. So there's that one point eight percent Hispanic and he got five point four percent Native American, which is way higher than normal because this belonged to completely this was kind of what where they were hanging out at the time.

So twenty nine point three percent of the people here are religious.

And it's just a mix up of you come out. That's too much sky for a God, you know what I mean? You come out here because not even a cloud for him to sit on. Not and not not a cloud. How's he going? How's he going to rain? Thunder upon the damned in the wicked if the rain cloud to rain thunder far from. You know, I'm saying I can't do that. I don't believe it for a minute.

This is like you move here when you've lost faith in everything or you move there and you go, I am a God. Are you? Are you. Yeah. You've lost faith in society, a deity. You know, you're everything that you hold, you've lost faith in and you've come to hear. This is fascinating. It's really weird here. Zero point zero percent Jewish, obviously zero point zero percent Muslim, as you might expect from this.

It's not a right. A lot of Jewish Montana ranchers go down at the moment. No politics until twenty twenty one. As we said, we're not going to mention that unemployment rate here is low. It's like three percent. But I mean, it's your most people work on their ranches and shit. So it's not a not like that. Household income, though, is also very low because the other jobs are all retail and retail trade and tourist shit.

And, you know, you work in a knickknack store selling people, you know, knits and bookmarks. Yeah. As I say, a magnet was like buffalo horns on it. Like, look at that. There you go. Put that on your courage to say Montana. Yeah, I've been to fucking Derby and survived the fire. Hurricane Holocaust. It's perfect.

And license plates without my name, you know, twenty eight thousand two hundred three dollars is the median household income, which is less than half of your normal normal. It's fifty seven thousand six fifty two. So way less. Twenty five percent of the households make under fifteen thousand a year.

So how do you what that is. Yeah.

Is it do they if they give you a free house, if you don't own land, there's not a lot you can really do. I would say your money. That's the thing. You've got to get out of there. Fifty four percent of the households make thirty thousand or under home. That's a shit load to do. We just not know that they're up there.

You know, they they work in like I said, they're making minimum wage, selling trinkets to tourists and shit waiting to start that season. Do they need to do something? Yeah, some shit. So some, I don't know, Western blog or something.

I don't know what the hell you people start a YouTube kind of just like a webcam aimed out the window. That's all a big it isn't it. Pretty. Watch this. I just pointed at the West eventually the sunlight that people want to watch that, you know, it'll be pretty over the moon back in tomorrow.

Your son will be up. I think if the sun comes up, boy, it'll set, that's how it works. Every time it is, I'll be filming it. Thank you for tuning in now. I'm not even going to sign off. I'm just going to go to bed. It's all good cost of living here.

The 100 is average power here. It's eighty two and the housing is it's low. But this doesn't this is like what the value is. But none of the houses for sale are of this cost. All the houses for sale are way fucking expensive. Asking for money. Yeah. The median home cost is one hundred forty six thousand one hundred dollars, which is very low.

But as we'll find out in the Darby, Montana real estate report.

We'll find out here once we learned there was a report that a two bedroom rental says is seven sixty nine, but there's no rentals that I can find really available except for like nightly touristy being, you know, Airbnb type shit. And then there's a I found the house's two bedroom, one bath, seventeen hundred sixteen square feet. It looks like kind of like a rental cabin. Like if you were like you went to a lake on vacation. But it's not like a log cabin.

It just looks like a structure in the woods. Yeah.

It's on eight acres, three hundred twenty five thousand dollars. Make sure that that's not a lot of house. That's too much. I found a two bedroom, two bath, six hundred thirty two square feet here. This one is a literal log cabin. It's got the, you know, logs on the outside. It's on thirty three acres.

OK, so that's nice. Six hundred twenty five thousand dollars though.

They think that David Letterman made this place a destination.

The houses aren't worth shit if you have no land, but the house is with land like outside of the town are they have a ton of land, some more expensive house. There's nothing. It's the land. It's the land. Well, this one's nice.

I found a three bedroom, three bath, thirty three hundred ninety eight square foot. It looks like a castle. Really. It's stone.

It's not like a ranch. It's got like sand turrets on. Oh Jesus. It looks like a fucking castle. It's on a cliff side overlooking a lake.

It's like the American the redneck version of Gore Vidal's house. Look up Gore Vidal's house and you'll see it's the redneck version of that. Basically overlooking the lake. It's stone. Twelve acres, seven hundred eighty thousand dollars. And it's they increase the price. Two hundred thirty thousand dollars in August.

What are you going to sell it for? Five hundred. You know, and I'll bet they got a bunch of offers and they were like taken off the market.

That or you know, since fucking with covid and everything, people are moving to the middle of nowhere. That might have been a more a surge of real. There's only there's not there's like ten houses available in the whole town. So. Yeah, but it seems like it seems like the rich get richer and when the rich get richer, everything that the rich can afford. Yeah. Those prices go up. Oh they go up big time. That's what that's what's happening there now.

Things to do here. Longer days. We don't have a ton of time to talk about it, which sucks because it's fucking hilarious. Let's see. This is one of the events, Jimmy.

Look at this shit, Jimmy.

I mean, this is too redneck women on a log on the log above water beating the shit out of each other.

They each have one glove on. Yeah, one has the right. They each have a right glove on, but then on the right gloves backwards on the one they have a set of gloves.

They gave one, the real one gave one a backwards glove, gave her a left and just flipped over, punching each other right in the face. But the Gretchen Wilson there has her has her fist cut. Oh yeah. And it's bare. The other one's that her hand like a keeper balance.

Look at this guy. He loves these. There's just this fat, like rancher looking guy, hands clasped, sitting on the ground with an ear to ear toothy smile just like this is the great. I could watch this. I could die right now. She was a asked. Margaret gets a lot younger. She's getting what for. Oh my God. It is fucking hilarious. They're both landing a pretty good shot. That's good. Yeah. That's why I'll put it up.

I'll post that picture. Don't worry. The family events here, they have a hot side demonstration. Kids Choko races.

I don't like the sound of that. No, I'm going to choke you a little bastard. Let's see who's the fastest when they're running in fear. When they're in fear for their life. I want to know which child is the fastest. Whoever loses gets choked. Tug of war, boxing over water, competition competitions. I believe that's. I wouldn't call that boxing.

No adults compete in a chain saw toss.

No. What how many arms are left on the ground at the end of vlogger days. A skillet toss, a loader contest and a ma and PA race. How do you get old in this state? How everything is just an opportunity to die?

It's wild, man. Also, the Wetly Bank Whitney Banks will be playing and Kimberly Dunn and David Lee Murphy.

Now, there's a few rules at there.

It says, quote, Absolutely no dogs, coolers or outside beverages with all those chainsaws around, I guess let the dogs run around anyway.

So but unfortunately, it was the last year of it in twenty nineteen. It's discontinued forever. They're going to try to figure out a new incarnation of it, but not enough logger's around anymore, they said literally. And then they also have the Twisted Nut Festival.

Well, it's a rodeo to benefit testicular cancer. The guy did not fight. Why would he do that. I can't. It's not even like a pun on cancer. No. How can we make it sound listed? Numbats are really suffering, which is the activity where you're bashing a. Nuts and a fucking giant mammal, so it's the weirdest thing. They are twisted from doing that. Maybe you wouldn't have so much cancer if you weren't bashing them constantly into the back of the back of a hole.

Not saying that that's causes it, but I can't help. Can't help it. Certainly not fix that. Fix it in crime rate in this town.

Doctor never says, I'm so sorry. You have testicular cancer. Jump on the back of old Brutus and we'll knock it right out of there.

Knock that those tumors right off the property crime in this town. Crime rate here, property crime, crime, right at average. So normal, which you wouldn't think such a small town. Look, it's touristy now. Violent crime, murder, rape, robbery and assault.

The Mount Rushmore of crime normally low in a small, small town like this. We're also right at average. So I guess with such a small population, it's like, you know, who the fuck knows to two violent incidences? And that's the whole thing. So that said, I believe it's time to talk about them. OK, OK, let's do this here. Get buckled in. Let's buckle down. Let's go back to the mid 2000s, you know.

Yeah. 2004, 2005.

It's a simple time. Good time to be alive. Really a simple time. Kind of a mess at that point. Dr. Bowman. Yeah, it's been a mess for a while. OK, so anyway, mid 2000s, here's just the last two hundred years or so, it's been a little shaky, diciest country. So now I'm just kidding. It's anyway, twins' mid 2000s.

We have a couple of people we'll talk about here. We'll talk about Bill and and Bill and Ann are a married couple, Bill and Ann Stout and their daughter, Sarah, Cynthia, Sylvia Stout. She would not take the garbage out. Now, that's a that's a didn't you ever read where the sidewalk ends? Do not kids know? Jesus, I don't read books.

That's just like my daughter used to make me read every single night where the sidewalk ends. Madison, I read to her and it was, you know, it was fun. And one of her fat, one of her favorite, Sarah, Cynthia, Sylvia Stout. And we'd have to read that over and over. She would not take the garbage out, out do do.

Because I was just frustrated that they just named this poor girl, that the look on Jimmy's face was like, why would you do that to your kids? Cynthia Sylvia Stout. No, no. Shel Silverstein did that to a little animated mythologically. Yeah, a little stick figure, that stick figure, but simply drawn child. So Bill here is born in nineteen fifty seven and and is born in nineteen sixty four. So a little bit of an age difference but nothing too much.

That's you know, that's fine for four couples, you know, that's within the range. So Bill he's born and I'm sorry Bill was born. Nineteen fifty five. I say fifty seven. I think he did well I was thinking there. So he was born February twenty eighth, nineteen fifty five. He was from San Jose, California originally. He's the only Chinese and only child back then and he ended up moving to, he grew up like went to high school in Arkansas.

So somehow the family ended up in Arkansas at some point and then he ends up in Montana. Well, a lot of people are still in Arkansas and all that sort of thing. So he meets and then we'll talk about in a second here, they end up living in Darby, Montana. They will have three sons. One is Andsnes from a previous marriage, and Bill will adopt him and, you know, take him as his own and everything.

His name is Ben, and they have Matthew and Noah as well. So three sons, some biblical names going on their hard core.

They have a twenty acre ranch at two sixty six, Trapper Meadow Road and Darby, he's killing it. Not bad.

Yeah. And he's a sheet rocker, really. He's a third generation sheet rocker, apparently, but his dad and his dad before him was a sheet rock. Well, yeah, apparently it's yeah.

It's to be a meth trade. No, it didn't used to be a man used to be like a professional thing. I think to it's one of those things like old timey plaster guys. Like if you were good at that, that was a that was a you can see a Mathie wall versus an actual sheet rockers wall.

Yeah. If you see one done right, you go, oh wow. What the fuck. Yeah. And it all trimmed. Right. Exactly. And they're building a lot of these fancy houses for your David Letterman's at this point in time. So I think maybe this is a good thing, the fancy house. And if you have to have a good sheetrock rocker here, the house that they have, it's a single story dwelling here, but it's pretty big.

It's a big like it's a ranch style house, so it's long and whatever on 20 acres there. It's you know, it's a nice looking house, partial basement, attached garage, big guy gone fishing sign on the door. Yeah. I mean, sits there man. Yeah, they're cool here. They're cars. They have a rented 2000 Ford truck and a nineteen ninety five Chevy Suburban and and a horse trailer also. So you know they're doing fine.

They're not living above their means or anything like that. They're fine here. All that shit still mad. Expensive. It's yeah it's. I mean, in order to keep a ranch is expensive to run to. It's a lot that builds into horseback riding, fishing, hunting, loves taking the horses out. That's his favorite thing. Like looks like going and driving them on a thing. I don't know how boys do, but he does stuff like that.

Whatever people do out there with a hat on, it is a lot of fun. Whatever, honest with you, whatever Kevin Costner fantasizes about doing while he sits in his mansion that somebody's set on fire or whatever Letterman's thinking of doing while he leads some guests down the pathway to plug some fuckin product on his show.

Yeah, yeah.

And he's just dreaming about the Buffalo ranch and go back to ride Trigger. No, you know it now.

She's also from California and they didn't meet in California. No. She's also just coincidentally from California. Her she's from a bigger household. They have she's from a family of five brothers and sisters. So, you know, different like that. After the age of four, apparently, your father took off and she hasn't had no relationship with him whatsoever. I feel so. Yeah, that's that's not great. You know, obviously, when they ended up getting married in nineteen eighty six billion and in Montana they already lived there.

Like I said, she already had a child named Ben. And right away Bill is totally up for adopting the child. And you know, Bill seems like a good guy. Great too when it comes to this shit. Nothing really happened in the marriage. Very uneventful marriage. I mean no nothing major. No one ever got arrested. The cops never have to come. There's no affairs. There's no craziness about the first 15 years of their marriage.

It's pretty calm. Two thousand, though. They have a major tragedy that these tragedies, even if they're nobody's fault, it's hard for couples to go on with. You know what I'm saying? Thousand over winter break. There's been her son from the previous marriage. There was a freshman in college and he committed suicide. Oh, no, over winter break. So that was a yeah. That crushed them both because, I mean, Bill took him out as he was his son.

I mean, there wasn't any my stepson or any of that shit. He was his son. So it absolutely you know, it was hard on them. But like I said, this is something that's just that's tragic and it happens. And people whether it's right or wrong, your brain tries to make sense of it. And you blame somebody. You blame a thing. What about when he was fourteen and you said this to him and you know, you're trying to do something and it's terribly destructive.

It was one of it was it happens. It was winter break. So he was at home when he did. He was out out of school. He wasn't on their property, is out of school. And he came back there and committed suicide somewhere else. And so, yeah, it's it's brutal. And and it was a hard thing. All the friends that it caused kind of a fracture in the relationship a little bit for a time. They were really unkind.

Of course I wouldn't be. That's brutal. I like I said, I don't know how no matter even if you go to therapy and all that, your brain is still has to process that shit. And that's something like that. Nineteen year old kid committing suicide. That's impossible to fucking process. And it's going to destroy your whole entire.

And a guy from fifty five. From nineteen fifty five. And he moved across the country twice. Yeah. At least. Yeah. He's a guy that's you do it by yourself, you make it on a mountain man. Everybody says he's a mountain man, he goes he's a rancher and a trapper and shit. I mean he's, he doesn't understand that kids trees are. No he doesn't at all.

He's a rugged guy and he he blamed and for the suicide a lot. He blamed her for it for whatever reason. I mean, like I said, who knows what little thing made him think that. Who knows. Like they said, they might have gotten to a fight the month before. And she said something to him that Bill thought was over the line. We have no idea. I'm not going to speculate on it. But Bill blamed her and they began to fight a lot at that point.

So that was brutal now and would say that, quote, What happened to Ben really affected us all. I dealt with it differently than Bill and our other two sons. Matt and Noah dealt with it differently from us. But we got through it and I thought we were a strong, happy family. So after a couple of years, Leah said, you know, that's never going to go away.

That's a wound that's never going to heal. But it the inflammation will calm down after a while. And you can kind of live your life and go hours without thinking, without thinking about it, maybe by that point. But I would think the first couple of years, I don't know how you could go minutes without thinking about it. It would be destroy your brain. Yeah. Yeah.

So 2004, they now they have you know, there's a ranch and a he's got his own, he's got a business and there's a ranch and there's kids and everything like that. So Bill does a very responsible thing and takes out a life insurance policy on himself. Five hundred thousand dollars and everybody's taken care of in case he's, he's, he's out ranching. I mean, he could be mangled by a he could be stampeded out there at any moment and thrown off a horse.

You never know that alone. Anything worse rears up. Yeah, it's I mean, anything could happen. So it's a smart thing if you're going to be an Sheetrocking and I don't know how anything could happen. He does a lot. That's enough. He does a lot. That's dangerous.

Yeah, he could be drowned out in the boat somewhere. Some Moethee sheet rocker next to him could not like steps on a nail gun and it goes to his face.

It could have anything. Anything is possible with meth and sheetrock. That's a that's a something to think about. Always keep that in mind. Matthes. Yeah. Whenever you're redoing your house, think anything is possible with meth and sheetrock watchers in my house because anything can happen.

It's bad stuff, bad nail through an electric wire or something.

Throw a mail to throw a nail through a sheetrock, through a sheet rocker with two kids. Right.

So the policy does include a clause that would now I don't know if he put this in or if this was a I think this is probably the insurance company assuring against this. The clause disallows payment. Should Bill commit suicide in the first two years of the policy? OK, which makes sense because that way you wouldn't get that way. You can't get a policy. No, you're going to kill yourself just so your family will pay off. That's probably insurance companies have seen that trick once or twice.

You think so? I don't like what's going on. Everything's going bad. I'm about to lose my business. I know I'll get a big insurance policy and then off myself and the wife and kids will be fine. Like people have those thoughts. So I get it. There's probably one of those for like prisoners that tried to get life insurance policies to do.

They get can they get one prisoner? That's got to be a high rate. I would imagine that would have to be like you work on a crab boat in a prison. Yeah.

You could feel like Epstein would have had one. Yeah, there's lousy medical care. So right away, like in Phoenix here, you know, in Arizona, people die from infections, spider bites because they're not allowed to see the doctors here because they go. That's not a that's not a one we give in. Yeah. We don't give they don't give medical attention for insect bites here. They say that even though we have tons of poisonous things around, like at night, stay awake at night for the brown recluse, black widows and scorpions.

Giant scorpions. Yeah. That if you're allergic to good luck, you're going to swell up like a fucking ridiculous. It's ridiculous here.

So anyway, this period of the two years of non suicide payout, it starts in January 2005. So he can offer himself in February 2007 and it's a full payout. So that works. Yes. I don't know. I guess they figure by then maybe you'll come out of it. Yeah. And by that, he thought you're might sad anymore. Maybe you've sought therapy. Yeah. And also two years about how long it takes to rebuild a life after a devastating loss.

That's the other thing. Who knows if something bad is happening while they're thinking two years, let's say he's losing his business. Well, you know, the first year he's definitely going want to kill himself, but then he gets another job and he starts moving up the ladder. And by two years, he's going, you know what? I could pay my bills and the bills are cleared up. I got that consolidated now. And the debt relief program, it's going to be OK.

Life's pretty easy to come out of it. Er I think of it to make it so. Anyway, we're not making light of depression or suicidal shit that we're doing that because we both suffer. Yeah exactly. So we're like hey we got to do that. It's a little dark.

That's what it literally took me two years from the divorce with the, with the financial situation. Yeah. To get back to above board and it it's so hard.

I've gone through several zombi periods of my life like literally like why am I doing it years where I don't even remember a lot of it. Because I was in a fucking haze after, you know, close friends died and things like that just destroyed being. Yeah, it's bad stuff. So anyway. Twenty five comes along. Yeah. So this spill is just got his life insurance policy. The marriage is, marriage is back on track. Thank God everybody's happy.

They have two sons. Their son Matt, by the way, turns out to be a pretty good athlete. It looks like from what I found, he run. He does track and field in high school and he's also a wide receiver on the football team. From what I find here, he starts high school in twenty five. So I have one kid start in high school. The other one is starting college. Soon they start college in like twenty seven.

So one kid starting high school, one kid at the end high school. Luke Noah. No that was the another. That's the one. That's another. Yeah. Somebody with an arc or some shit that so early. Twenty five bill gets an invitation to the wedding of an old high school friend and it's in Arkansas. So like he, you know, he saw it and he saw that like a bunch of his friends were going to be there, like high school friends, old friends.

And he was like, well, it's kind of fun, you know, in high school reunion at a wedding. People of that generation love it. They love it.

Yeah. Then we get together and talk about it. And I should I got a nice ranch and stuff, nice family on and nothing to be embarrassed about, about. It's the first thing you think when you get that. Do I have anything to be embarrassed about? Why do I not want to tell them about?

What do I have to lie about and what do I get? That's impressive. This isn't bad. Yeah. All right. Picture of the ranch. It looks pretty at sunset. Let me show you this. This Instagram feed of let me log into this YouTube, it's pretty good stuff. Somebody that's right now I'm going star. Yeah.

So he goes there and he's happy about it. He's talking about it. He says, you know, and let's go let's go to this wedding and doesn't really want to go. She's not into it. She doesn't really know his high school friends and she doesn't want to be a third wheel or whatever. She doesn't want to go while he's in a big group of his high school friends and they're standing off to the side. Right.

Which I get I mean, you still you got to escort your your mate to something like that. Yeah.

You know, I get it. I don't I don't know. I'm kind of 50/50 on it because I can see, like, somebody being like, I don't really want somebody else there because I want to just talk to people and not have to feel like I have to include them. But at the same time, you want to I don't know, that's your life as your spouse. So you'd be like, hey, this is the life I've built with this person.

And yeah, you want to I guess you kind of talk it over with them and they go if they I don't want to do it. And you give them like your whole your whole bit of why you do want to go. Yeah. Like, no, I'm not really into it. I could still be like maybe you're right. Yeah. That's I mean I don't want to go. I feel like your pitch would this is what your pitch would be.

That's why. Because your pitch would be like, OK, I want to go to this thing. Yeah. You need to come with me because you're my wife and I want to show everybody to you. But once I'm done showing you to them, you need to just go away because you're not going to be part of the conversation. And if we're being honest, I mean, you know, I'm going to have to include you and go so and this person explain the back story of our shorthand.

It's you know, I didn't want to hear how you like that. You plowed under the bleachers anyway. I just want to go home. But you have to do that. Basically, you have to stand there and nod and interested. And this is what married people do for each other. OK, I'll do something shitty for you and it's fine. I owe you one shitty friend. How's that? How do you like like, you know, some bullshit with your sister and her family and I'll go to brunch or whatever.

Shitty.

Let's talk about. OK, let's talk about it. Doesn't matter. OK, we'll be at eighteen shitty listening by the end of the year. One for one man. We'll trade off on a lot of us but she doesn't want to go and he said fuck it, I'll go myself. He said, I'll go, I'll go. She said, you go have a good time but I don't want to go. So he goes back, right? Yeah.

You know, he says this might be good for me. I need just a it's a relaxing thing. I'm away from work, family, kids, you know, just see like the old friends talk about old times and clear your head. Forty years old, years old for some reason.

But people do that, I suppose people go to high school reunions in their 60s.

Why my grandparents still do it? Well, I don't know if it's I don't understand why people do that. I don't know what the fuck. Well, there wasn't there wasn't any Facebook then. They didn't keep up. They didn't have a lot of them didn't go to college. So it's just like, how did you fare after that bullshit education? We got Kewdale. We already hate most of the people we grew up with because we see there no unions on Facebook and we're like, oh, you're a monster.

I want to fucking talk to you anymore. How was I friends with you? What happened to this person? So we don't need that. Maybe that's why. But your tits out on Instagram with twenty thousand followers, I see what you're doing or with, you know, one hundred and eighty followers. It still doesn't matter. You're still going for it. So Bill goes to Arkansas. It's going to enjoy himself. Friend's wedding. So he goes to the hotel bar where he's at the hotel with a bunch of the people are staying.

And it's the night before the wedding. And he has a drink and he's just sitting there by himself and he sees somebody at the bar who he has not seen in a very long time. And it's his high school sweetheart, a woman named Barbara Miller. And so they used to they were a major item in high school, these two. So he sees her and he's like, oh, my God, this I haven't seen you since high school.

Weird. So they start talking. And, you know, she said that she was she liked him a lot back in the day and he liked her a lot back in the day. But they didn't understand. They haven't seen each other for thirty plus years.

If I saw any girl I went to high school with, I'd be like, I don't know, I have no interest in you. I probably owe you an apology.

I'm sure I was going to say I don't know what I did, but I don't know if you're mad. I don't remember it. If you're mad at me, you're if you were there and you probably still are, because I'm sure what I did was just not talk to jog your memory. How about we do that. Yeah. And apologize to your best friend and your cousin for me as well. I'm sure I said something. No, no.

Yeah they all. Yeah. I thought you knew about each other, but nobody minded. I thought everybody was on for.

I thought it was OK. So, you know, just kidding. So anyway, he is you know, they haven't seen each other forever, but this is her sister's wedding. So you had to think that he would run into her there. I would imagine it's that girl. Sister, it's Barbara Miller. Sister's wedding. So what are you doing? That's why he got invited, because I don't know why.

And why would you invite your high school boyfriend? No, this is his sister's high school. Yeah. Why don't you get married and be like, you know, we should invite that guy. We haven't seen it over the guy. I used to go out with in the 11th grade, I haven't seen him in a long time. Where does he live now? Montana sent him an invite to see if he'll get on a fucking play the fuck kind of thing.

Is that right? Is that weird? Bizarre. I didn't invite anybody like that to know. And I got married back in the day, pretty not far removed. This is years. This is 30 something years later. This is a woman who if she's the older sister, she's middle to late 50s. That's what I mean. I mean, I would get that invitation and go, who who's getting married? Where what's happening? This address to me is this I'm not buying it a suit for this.

No, I'm a rancher. I don't have this kind of attire. OK, so I'm not sure you got to come in all western. Sorry, I've been on a ranch for the last thirty years or so, and just like Kevin Costner, with just enough dust on your shoulder, I dressed like Charlie from always Sunny in Philly when he's selling oil, that's what I do.

I'm in oil.

So he you know, he's happy. They're talking they have a very nice conversation. They spend a few hours at the bar drinking Mai and catching up on old times and they start laughing and having fun and they're talking about people. Have you see. Oh, I see that guy. And actually, you know what happened to him in bar.

If you see anybody that you there is a thing that it's not necessarily if it's the opposite sex or whatever you're into, but like if you see somebody from high school and they start telling stories of disastrous things that have happened to other people that you do in high school, it's kind of funny. And it's like you'll get into that conversation for a little while. It's like, oh, my God, what did that idiot do? Now it's like a fifteen minute conversation I can deal with.

Yeah, but this goes on for a while. It's too much to the point where, Bill, they get more comfortable and they start talking more about their personal life and jacket comes off. He starts talking about his personal problem the last few years and my son's the Bullo son committed suicide. I tell you about that. Now, that's another Scotch would make that a double, make it the single mom this time. So let's get the good stuff.

Never mind that Johnny Walker black. Let's get that's. Yeah. The McCallum eighteen. And thank you. So Glenlivet, please. So that they kind of get to the point in the conversation where he's talking about his life and how since his son committed suicide, his marriage has gone downhill and they all they do is fight and. Oh, God. Oh yeah. He's he's pitching he's pitching a pitching a no hitter right now. He's in about the sixth inning.

So this bombing at the Marriott room to seven, eight, just going with mostly fastballs by the third time around in the lineup. Now he's got the Knicks and the Cavs and Sliders now and throw a change up in there. And he's you know, because he's in the sixth inning, he's got to you need some guile to make it all the way to the ninth right now. Anybody can get to this point, right? That kind of makes the whole thing to be a complete game.

You've got to really you've got to really do it at this point.

The hotel bar, it's last call, the lights come up and all that shit.

So they're not ready to stop talking in the middle of a conversation. So, I mean, whoa, whoa, why are our car why is our conversation going to be dictated by when the bars close in the state of Arkansas? That's crazy. This guy wants to go home. Come on. Because the bartender has a life the hell out of here. Stay here and serve me. That's what they're thinking.

So they say, well, he says, well, let's go back to my room and talk more so we can hang out in the room there. So you know how this happens, obviously. And yeah, this is it is what it is.

So they spend the night together. He's banging all Barbara here. And then Bill and Barbara go to her sister's wedding essentially together. Yeah. You know, they make an entrance together and all that kind of thing. They sat next to each other. They danced together. They were like a couple. Like if you took a date to a wedding and you did this sort of thing, they said they you know, everyone said they were like an old married couple, but had the energy like a new couple, you know what I mean?

It was like, yeah, because they just yeah. They just like this is great. Now we know how to do it. Isn't this much better than when we were sixteen and it was confusing.

Look, I'm considerate of you too. I know where all the parts are now. Isn't that great. I don't just jump away on you until I'm finished. It's is wonderful now.

Wow, that's great. So, yeah, that's that's going to happen. So anyway, this ends up happening and as it's going on, you know, they they're having a good time at the wedding and they decide that, you know, they don't want to leave it alone. They don't want this to be the last time they talk or the last time they see each other. You know what I mean? They don't. They want to keep communicating.

He tells her that he's not going to let her down. He's not going to run away on her and he's going to you know, he's going to stay in touch with her. And they come up with a plan of how to they're going to email and they got phones and he and. Text me that this time when she married to. No, she's not married at all, she's she's single. Yes. So the whole thing is just this.

She think I saw him first. I don't know what you mean. I think she thinks I know this guy. I've known him since he was a kid. And I think some people have a weird thing for this. And this is my mistake. I'm I'm not a fucking psychologist, obviously, but I didn't graduate high school, so I can't claim to have any medical knowledge. But as an amateur, you know, done a lot of shit on crazy people and people have things in their heads.

Not that this is crazy, but I feel like people pretty fucking crazy.

It's a little weird. Yeah. It's it's not normal. I'm not saying that, don't get me wrong. But I'm saying, like, when people see I think somebody from them, I think in their brain, it makes them puts them in the mindset of when they knew that person, if they haven't seen him in 30 years and then they feel young again. And I think someone that's 50 years old and it's not completely thrilled with. Exactly. And that excited with their they see somebody and it's an excitement thing I feel like I did when I was 17.

Again, that's the feeling I want. I've been missing that feeling, that energy. I think that's what it is. Probably I'm guessing I don't know, though. And I think she feels the same way, like, oh, you know, we're not these we're not middle aged. And, you know, poncey people were, you know, exciting teenagers again.

But you're not you're not. You're not. That's the thing. Get your head out of your ass. Yeah. So they even make plans for her to move to Montana?

Well, no, no, my family's. Oh, I don't know. He's he's he's telling her this is what we're going to do. He wants her to move you to Montana. I'm going to eventually edge away from my wife and you're going to you know, he's going to leave eventually, but not now. First, you're going to come to Montana. We're going have an affair for a while. And as long as I can get out of my marriage, I'll slip back.

You know, we'll exchange. All right, partners at some point here. So we're exchange wives, I should say. So, you know, they thought maybe this is going to work. He leaves Arkansas, goes home to Montana, and, yeah, he ends he calls her twice. Right. When he gets home, says that he's miss he misses her. And it was really nice to talk to her and all this sort of thing. So he says he needs to see her again and he sets up basically a little getaway for them.

They're going to go to she's going to fly him. He's going to pick her up in Missoula and they're going to go to a resort in Missoula in West. I think it's like north of Darby, west of Missoula type of thing, because Missoula is like northeast of Darby. So I think there's some resource out there. And Bill says he's going to buy her a plane ticket. It's going to be beautiful for the Memorial Day weekend that you have.

What happened? What I mean, I know what he's thinking. He's leaving town to go to a wedding without the family. So I guess it's not weird he disappears on them for to time, I guess. What do you say I'm out ranching like?

I don't know. It's not a big sheetrock job.

Memorial Day weekend. You know, I realize this is like a rest family weekend. I'm going to just dedicate it to work.

I'm going to work. I was going to have a barbecue. Yeah, I thought about it, but I decided to fuck the girl I used to like in eleventh grade English instead.

So how's that not I don't know how how I'm going to import her. I don't know how you get away for days at a time from from your family. That's wild.

I don't understand. He's got to have so I'm sure he's cooking up some kind of story for a business trip. I'm sure you can say is a sheetrock job that's up in some resort. I suppose that'll probably work. I have to say, I don't know when the life was like, where's that check from that she showed me my sheetrock, that fucking resort who runs that place? That bastard damn fucking piece of shit resort. Yeah, you'd be very upset with that.

I'll make a phone call, but I'm very sorry.

So he's the whole time too. He's telling her that man's going to be gone soon. Don't worry. It's going to be the two of us. Everything's going to be great. You know, it's all good and everything stays all good. And this plan continues. And she's going to come out for Memorial Day weekend. Everything's wonderful, which if you're outside the US, is in May, Memorial Day weekend until Friday, April 29th of 2005, when and gets a phone call.

Stop this phone call from an anonymous caller.

It's a woman.

Yeah, who won't say who she is, but she will say that basically I was at this wedding in Arkansas with your husband and your husband's fucking his high school girlfriend, and they were real close and all up on each other. And I know her and I think the shit's still going on.

So you might want to know that I don't know who the hell would do that, but wow, somebody who's been cheated on, somebody just I mean, they just took a big pool of gasoline and said, how many matches do it all but fucking.

Oh, my. Who does that? Like, who would. It's vindictive even if you. Do that about, would you I wouldn't want I wouldn't want to be the person to tell somebody that I'm not. I hope they find out, but I'm not going to be the one to tell them. This is only designed to hurt. That's all that's for. Unless it's her sister or somebody that's close to her that really is like I want to tell you this so you don't get hurt.

And now I'm here to comfort you as well. That would be one thing, but just I'm an anonymous caller. Your husband's fucking his high school girlfriend. How do you like that? Goodbye. Like, that's a lot to take in, I think, for her. So she's obviously blown away by this person, like I said, never identified themselves or anything like that. So she's upset, as you might imagine, and is a bit upset.

She's mad. She confronts Bill over it, you know, confronts Bill over the over the affair. And Bill agrees that he would stop talking to her, stop talking to to Barbara.

It's all out and blows it up on him. And he's like, I don't know what I was thinking. You're right. I was all happy there for a minute and lost my mind. You know how that goes.

Listen. And have you ever gotten put all right? You have I got nothing. I won't just it was a lot of serotonin that I just was not used to having that was rushing through my body and it was bad stuff. So, yeah. So then he sends her an email. So Barbara didn't know the call went to and Barbara thinks everything's going on fine. Barbara doesn't know that Ann knows about it and is now confronted Bell like she's blissfully unaware or making plans to come for Memorial Day.

She doesn't know. And out of the blue Bill sends her an email saying it's over, I can't do this. And that was that. He explains that and knows about the affair. And he tells her that we can't ever see each other again. Sorry, I don't mean to do this to you twice because apparently he dumped her in high school and go sit out on her. So that was the thing. So he said, don't mean to do this twice, but I can't do it.

I'm canceling the airline ticket. I brought you to Montana. Have a good one. Have a good life, Barbara. Jesus Christ.

Oh, no. She's like, what the fuck?

Yeah, she's pissed. He came on to her real strong. He's banging or he's telling her all this shit. He's selling her a line of goods. You're going to break out take you out here. I'm leaving my wife. We're going to be together while bla blah blah blah. It's an airplane. Take his plans and shit and then out of nowhere he's like, never mind, sorry she found out. So I don't like you anymore. And she's like, what the fuck.

She's she's pissed. She said, obviously Barbara were foiled. Yeah. This isn't going to work here so great.

I got fucking dumped twice basically. And he so she sent an email back saying fucking call me. Is that why you call me and, you know, talk to me about this. And she never called so she got pissed. She decides I'm going to Montana whether he wants me to or not.

He owes me fucking he owes me more than an email. Yeah. For the second time he owes me more than any man wrote this on the list. We have to do something. The other night I would have accepted a phone call, but now it's no, it's going to be face to face time now, so. Oh, boy, it's going to be an old West showdown going on here. So she makes up her mind. She's going to Montana, but then so she gets her somehow.

I think she had to pay for it, but she gets her canceled plane ticket reactivated again. So she's ready to go to Montana. And he told she told Barbara tells tells Bill that she's going to show up on his doorstep and she's going to camp out there till she's ready to come out and have some balls and talk to her face to face like a man.

So I don't know if this is a way to try to get him to just call and do it. Or, you know, if I threatened him enough that I'll show up at his house, maybe he'll call me and talk to me about it.

I'm not sure he's a bit on the. This is aggressive. Yeah. I would say is aggressive. But listen, he fucked up.

I was going to say, I mean, it's one thing, you know, there's the old stupid woman scorned shit, but a woman scorned twice. Yeah. Over a thirty year period is a different story. And it's not a woman that's anyone scorned twice over it. They're going to get pissed off and want to be like, all right, I'm at least going to yell at you if I were on my last interaction with you. Sweet talk me all night and then you do the same thing again.

Again, we're having a chat this time after I was making life plans, like she was planning on moving, she was going to sell her house and she's like talking about what she was like.

Right. He's making life plans. Pay transaction fee. Fuck. Yeah, I know. Exactly. This is ridiculous. I have people in and out of my house all day traipsing around saying my goddamn closet's not big enough. I got to hear that shit because of you. You're a dick. And many times I've heard it's not very modern. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to talk. I know the kitchen needs right. Fork Granat was fine fucking ten years ago.

I got it's laminin. I know real would fine. OK, it looks nice and it's easy to clean. It's all upside.

Anyway, she decides they're going to have a face to face on Memorial Day is going to be a holiday showdown, so hopefully he's not like flipping hamburgers in the yard with the fucking apron on that apron. There's people playing badminton and she fucking screeches up in a rental car going back. Oh, yeah. Bill, you want another? You're going to need it now. It's floppy Sheff's, as it turns out. Yeah. With his kiss the cook fucking apron on No.

One, Dad barbecue protesters.

Let me try the meat with the arrow pointing down. Yeah. Isn't that funny. Jesus, you've seen them all. Jimmy, I'm a dad. Jimmy has shop for novelty barbecue aprons more than most people, as you can understand. That's a real apron. That's what it is. Yeah, it's I think you've seen them like you did not just make that up. Oh, you didn't see this. That's fucking hilarious. Good. A hard man is good to find.

Yeah. Fucking bachelorette strips everywhere. It's all over there. The best ones are everywhere. That's why they're out there.

So Bill and Bill is telling and that the affair is over. We're going to live our lives. But he's like, holy shit, how do I get her to not come to here on Memorial Day?

His plates are spinning. This is difficult here. So he does keep his promise, though he never contacts Barbara, not even to tell her not to come to his house on Memorial Day, which might have been a good time to break the property. Just send the follow up email. Please don't do that.

Listen, we got to talk right now is basically what I'm getting at here.

This is where a conversation with your wife comes in, where you go, look, I got this email back. Yeah. Can I please just call her? She's gonna be in the room. We'll sort it out, put it on speaker. I know what I did. I fucked up. And I want you to know everything. I don't want her to come here Memorial Day because I feel like no matter how much that wouldn't be my fault. I feel like you're going to blame me.

I feel I feel like some blame is going to be put onto me, which I guess is understandable. I wouldn't know this person otherwise. But how I'm going to hear about this for years. Yeah, it's going to be the neighbors are going to know about it. The cattle are going to know. It's going to be a lot.

I don't think we want to deal with this so that he doesn't contact her at all. Like I said.

Yeah, you got to lay the cards on the table. Look at what's going on. This is what happened.

Answer every question. He's going to want details. That's better. Say, Sam, you better say I'm you. But how many times? Oh, yes, I'll put it on speaker so he doesn't contact her. And she eventually because there's a month that goes by here, she calls down over the course of the month and says, you know what, fuck it, what am I going to do? Like, I'm sure she talked to a friend or her sister or something and somebody told her, why are you going to go there for.

Right. What is that going to do? But cause you grief. You're a 50 year old woman. Come on. This is a no, this is this is you have twenty two year old energy here. I'm going to go there and confront people. You do that shit when you're twenty two. When you're fifty, you go, all right, they don't want me. It's enough. I'm going, I'll be fine. I'm going to eat something and relax.

Was that ranch or cock his dick man. Well I mean he's he's great and he knows how to sheet rock in the room and he throws it down the bed sheet, rock her ass, he sheet rock that ass. That's what it is.

So she ends up not showing up. And so there's no contact with him, no contact with her for a period in the summer of twenty five. Things are normal again. No weird shit. She's not going to show up. He says he's back on track and says she forgives him, you know, quote unquote forgives him. She's not going to divorce him in lieu of.

Yeah. The divorce behavior forever.

Yeah, exactly. All of that. More paperwork. I'm going to trust you.

So everything's fine until June 1st here. June 1st. He's on his computer at home when he gets a message in his inbox. And it's a little bit strange.

This is one week after memorial. This is one week later. Yeah. So return for a short period. Not not much. Yeah, well, it was OK because he didn't contact her, so there was no contact from early May.

Oh God it. OK, so Memorial Day. Yeah. So it's about June and now she's busy. Yeah. It's like a month where the stout household has been calm waters basically. So he gets an email now saying quote, I love you, we're going to be together, we're going to meet face to face.

And yeah. So the email address that they were coming from was called Frico FAQ that at some shit. So, yeah, it was a freak of AHC. Freak of Arkia. Yeah. I guess. I don't know. Freak of Arkansas. Freak of Arc. Yeah. Yeah. Of Phakisa. Freak old fart. Jesus Christ. A veritable advance like I've had it personalized. Like can I say that a really well personalized license plates. I'm terrible at them.

I'm as good at personalized license. Plates, as you are at Italian names in the shout outs, put it that way, FLOREK streak of cheese is unbelievable.

You sit at red lights and go, what the fuck does it say? I can never figure it out. I say to Sarah, What the fuck are they trying to tell me? So I got two seconds to tell me. I'm like, All right, thank you. I investigate it too deep and I don't even know what I'm doing. This is Sarah. This what are they saying? Are they a dick? It was. They say, is this like something that says like says, go sons, you have little kids or something.

What's going on? Oh, those son.

Okay, I get it now to be a plate of Frico FAQ.

I got to love that so much. And it also tells so much about her. Oh yeah. She, she loves sex and she reek of Arkansas. Oh boy she's, I like her.

So he gets this and despite the, the intriguing email address is like he decides not to respond delete. Right. Maybe if I just delete everything she says maybe it'll just go away so this will go away.

So he thinks she won't you know, that's just the end of that shit.

But then it's not he's as bad a license plates as you are. He doesn't know what that means either. Yeah. So who's Frico for a Frico FAQ? Jesus, nothing. I'm all right, Rico. They mean fart in misspelled it. What happened? This is a spam email. Yeah, it's funny that.

So then he discovers Bill a short time after getting the email he finds an in the kitchen reading some letters. Oh boy. Addressed to both of them that had been sent in the mail. So she just got the mail and there's a letter addressed to both of them. She opened it like a normal person would. If she starts fucking reading it and she hates it, it's yeah, it's it's a you know, it's from Barbara. It's pretty far from Frigo FAQ and Shrieker FAQ is not not going well here.

So at this point, she's pissed off at this, but he's saying, I have not contacted her. This is I can't help that somebody if somebody is a little off, that's not my fault. And she's like, I get it. You know, I guess we'll handle this together. And, you know, but she's still pissed off because she doesn't want she wants a life without getting some woman. Her husband had an affair with her. Who the hell wants that?

You know what I mean? That's that's what this wouldn't be happening if you wouldn't affect our base. If you say so, I get that it's our fault now. But let's be honest here. You started pushing that rock down the mountain and it's just gravity now taking its course. I guess no one can resist your sheetrocking cock. It's hard as sheetrock, you rocking the sheets, rocking it. So he rocks the sheets sheet rock or one that's his that's his email address and his license plate rock your one sheet rock rock on the sheets.

So now Bill and and their sons and a bunch of their friends start receiving emails. No start receiving letters postmarked in Arkansas. Yeah. Saying that they're from Barbara Miller or from Barbara Miller's daughter, you know, whatever.

Intermittently the different the both of them, the so I mean, Ann is just like, holy shit.

Now it's embarrassing too, because literally they're sending letters to their sons. So their sons are reading this like, oh, your dad had an affair with me and now he's doing this shit. Mom, I got their friends in town are getting letters like, you know, they're people they work with. They're getting letters saying that, you know, this is what's going on and they're my business. We're supposed to be together. And then this guy ditched me again and then, you know, blah, blah, blah.

This is horrible shit, though. I mean, these it's a small town. This is very embarrassing for these people there. You know, older people in a small town like they're not used to this. They're not swingers these to the south. So it turns out that it's just, you know, it's ongoing. And in these communications, Miller's telling her and everybody else that it's an ongoing affair and that bill is still having an affair with her.

And he hasn't contacted her at all. And he's like, I swear to God, I have not contacted her. This is she's crazy. He's saying, like, I don't know, this is like a fatal attraction thing, literally. I don't know what's happening. I didn't do any of this shit. Letters then started coming, claiming that Miller was pregnant with Bill's child. God damn him. So, yeah. And also saying that she was going to come to Montana to take Ann's place in the family and she was going to come there and Åge out and and, you know, have a child with Bill and be a new family and needs to go away.

So she's sending in and receiving letters saying that you're going you need to go away because he got me pregnant. So I'm coming there. And do they contact the cops to get out of the fucking house? Well, not yet. So not yet. They also she says that she's going to bring Bill's baby to Montana and show up on the doorstep and all this type of shit, so. All we look at, it's got a bulletin, every look, the kid was born with this.

That's how I know. That's how I know.

It smells like a wide open race. He was squinting the whole time. Still look at him. There's no sun. There's no sun. We're inside. He's just squinting. Looking through his.

I don't know. It's weird. He's he's he's leathery and wrinkled. He's six months old. He's just always counting cows.

And we're trying to make sure they're all they're super where he kicks shit literally falls out his diet for he just kicks it on the floor and slings sheetrock cock like no baby should. It's not right. So, yeah, he's a newborn.

He's wearing size four diapers. I want to know why he's packing. He's got Montana Dick. That's right. Packet's Big Sky Country. It's a big brother country. It's it's big country up there. So all of these letters are postmarked in Arkansas and you know, all of them. And what they do is then, as she said, there's another batch of letters because this is like a bunch of letters keep coming in waves. At one point, there's a batch of letters that goes out to all of her friends, all of their friends, all of their relatives, inviting them to a barbecue in Montana to celebrate the new relationship between Bill and Barbara Miller.

So come to our engagement party. Basically, it's going to be wonderful. Celebrate our baby coming. So Bill at this point said, OK, I like yeah, I tried, but, you know, it's getting too rough at home. And he goes to law enforcement and he goes to the Ravelli County Sheriff's there and he reports harassment. He says, I'm getting fucking constantly harassed here. Chief Boiardi, we've got to talk. Listen, Chief.

Yeah, it's a lot going on. Yeah, I like the beef ravioli, by the way, that you make are very, very nice. Deputy Beefaroni, you need to have a chat.

I'm sorry I kicked the spaghetti o's out of this good deputy fucking ravioli and beefaroni. So he's yeah. He reports it to them. And in addition to all the emails now at this point, after he reports it's a law enforcement start, other things start happening, not letters. Now, acts of vandalism start happening like somebody. They're like they would have to be there, you know, eggs start, his truck will get inexplicably egged. It'll be the only thing like nobody else in the neighborhood.

It's not a bunch of kids going around telling people it's his truck is covered in eggs and nobody else's as shit is smeared all over his truck like shit.

I hope it doesn't say, oh, it's you and your dog. Yeah, I'm really hoping she found the cow cow shit. There's a lot of shit on a ranch. You can if you're looking for shit, that's the place to find that you need a handful of it up there and just pick it up and smear whoever you want so you don't have to make your own. Probably I would assume with so much already on the ground, it's plentiful, it's plentiful.

So but shit smeared all over his truck. He'd come out and have shit smeared all over, which is wonderful. They would break there was broken potted plants on the porch of the house.

She's so seventeen. James. Yeah.

This is like this is at the house. Yeah. I mean this is no shit. Now this isn't a letter from Arkansas. This is someone broke our potted plant and smeared shit on my truck. This is a problem. It's an issue. Also, they would both bill and and report receiving numerous hang up phone calls at the House. So from there, from pay phones, they're not from, you know, numbers that anybody would investigate. Right.

It's crazy here.

So Bill also reports that a credit card and some financial information were missing from the House and he feared that.

So every time something happens, he has to go back to the cops and go, there's more. There's more. Oh, now they're shit on my truck. Oh, now my plants are broken.

And now there's things inside. Yeah. Now, he said that he he tells the cops, look, I'm scared that she is here and I'm scared she broke into my fucking house. If she's all around my house, gonna be there because she knows where his family is and where there's a will. There's a way with a break in. I mean, it's not like if you want to break, there's armed guards around there. So if you want to break any, you can break in.

So he said this is getting really scary. He says, I'm getting emails. She's still saying she's coming to Montana. I'm scared. Like, what can you do for me here? So now and at the same time, she's so upset that she, like, talks to a bunch of people in town about the whole thing. And it's a it's a basically he's very embarrassed and ashamed of this whole thing. Bela's because, you know, people ask what's wrong?

And she's like, oh, my the woman my husband's having an affair with is stalking us and smearing shit on his truck. And so, I mean, you know, she's got to be able to talk to people or friends and things like that. And he feels obviously like responsible for it. So it's it's it's not good. So. Yeah, December. Two thousand six comes around and it's still still going on here and everything, it's it's still happening the at this point by December and and Barbara had started, they have communicated, which is strange.

It's everything's business is and trying to settle the water.

I don't know if she I think she's trying to be like, look, maybe if she's acknowledged and she just realizes we have a family, you are happy and there's there's been a misunderstanding. And maybe if we treat her that way, maybe she'll act like a human if we treat her like one. Basically, obviously angling for the fear aspect. Yeah. It's not show any exactly. Treated like a person. You tell her, look, we don't we're not going to deal with your shit.

The dog's growl and let's show him the back of our hand and go, here you go. Smell it if you want another. I'm not afraid. I like it's that sort of thing. Yeah. So I feel like that's kind of what it is. So they talk on the phone a little bit. She also called and emailed Stout now takes another thing. First she was calling to yell at her and say stop doing this shit then also. And after the communication doesn't stop and calls and emails Barbara Miller's boss about the affair.

Oh, to be like, well, maybe if her boss tells her to chill the fuck out, maybe she doesn't want to get fired. Smart. Yeah, it is. I guess if you if if it's been months, it's been six months of harassment, at some point you don't care anymore.

Like, I don't know how much time she puts in at your office, but this is how much time she puts in my office. Yeah. She sends my kids letters like this is fucking once someone send in your kids shit that's all bets are off at that point. Yeah.

All bets are off here. So now Miller started worrying that she was going to lose her job. She said that she would she was worried she's going to lose her job if they took out a restraining order against her and she got served at work like she's afraid she'll lose her job over that. So she said that she and they never saw the restraining order against her, by the way, which is strange.

But she did tell people and did that she got a restraining order against her, which, you know, I don't know, people talk.

So maybe you hear that enough where you tell people enough of the story. Then they go, why don't you just get a restraining order? And she's like, I don't want to do that. A lot of trouble. It's all a hassle. Yeah. Affect her terribly. I want to do that. So eventually you just go, yeah, I already did that. Well yeah I know. Really strange about that. January 2007 and calls Barbara Miller and says, you know what, I'm divorcing Bill.

You can fucking have them. I'm pissed off. I've had it with this whole thing. Um, basically I'm not doing it anymore. It's not stop. There's been this constant stream of this shit she feels between her her son committing suicide and this fucking affair. It's been dragging on and embarrassing her to her friends, family, children, work associates. It's he's she's done. She's like, you know what? She's literally says, I'm divorcing Bill.

You can fucking have him enjoy. That's it. I'm angry about it. And I've had it. So twenty seven. This is the state of the relationship. She says she's divorcing Bill. Everything's up in the air. Barbara Miller thinks that she's on deck. Yeah, this is what's going on by twenty seven there. Noah, I believe the older son is in college. Mat's in high school May of 2007. Bill puts the House and ranch up for sale.

Really puts it up for sale. I don't know if he was calling Barber's bluff on the divorce like. All right, well, put the house up for sale then whatever. But she was very upset with him for putting the house up for sale. So I don't understand if she wanted a divorce. I wanted to stay there, if that was how it worked or what it was. But there's a source of beef there. But through the month of May, after he puts the house up for sale, I don't know if that was an extreme measure that calm the waters or what.

But after that, they start getting along a little bit better. Once they have a big fight about the house and all that shit, then they start and and and Bill, start calming and some funny farm got them back together. That's what it is. Yeah, that's how it works. They're up. And I don't want to move either. I don't want to divorce me either. Let's yeah. You can have the apple.

So June 1st.

Twenty seven Bill back to the back to the Ravioli County Sheriff here. See the old chief Boiardi to tell the chief that he has had a robbery at his house. He's had stolen from him a nine millimeter Beretta, which is, you know, a gun, obviously the holster that goes with and a bunch of ammo. Oh, that's not good. So somebody stole my weapon and all my shit back and possibility.

Don't fire it. Yeah. And it's things to fire it with. And, you know, I've been being stalked for a year or so.

A little frightening. A little frightening. He apparently showed up freaking out at the sheriff.

He was it was like not it wasn't like this is weird. I don't know if it's anything, you know, you guys tell me if you think it's anything but, you know, might be a silly. He showed up like, holy shit, it's worse now, you know, because every time something happens, he runs back there and they're just like, Oh boy, yeah, that's weird. You're not going to believe the guy.

Somebody that rubs shit, breaks stuff, steals credit cards. They're now armed. They're now you know, I just see the sheriff with his feet up on the desk and his hat pulled down over his eyes. You know what I mean? Every time they come in is around shiksas coffee over when he goes.

Jesus, just creamed that coffee. Martha, another cup of coffee, please.

He's like another. So this is what's going on here. So he says theft of the handgun. He says basically it's Barbara Miller. It stole my fucking handgun. She's been doing all this shit. She stole my handgun. She's here in town. Obviously, she stole my handgun. She's been coming in and out periodically. She's stalking me. I'm scared. Basically, she she wants to ruin my life. And now I'm worried that she has a gun.

Right. And she's upset. So they say fill out a police report for report, you know, saying that you think she stole it. That's when he starts to second guess himself. And he's like, well, I don't know. She stole it, though. I can't, you know, like, I didn't see her do it. So because they say, you know, you have to. So he starts freaking out. And this is weird to the point now where Bill doesn't even sleep much at night anymore.

Like he's sure he's got a lot going on in his mind out of solid shit months.

No, no. Liquidy, liquidy. Oh, it's bad. It's Del Taco. Every night, every night. Every night.

He can't tell which is going down the water Tuesday night. Thirty nine said you motherfuckers for your East Coast people and foreign people.

Del Taco has thirty nine cent tacos on Tuesdays. Thirty nine cents. Thirty nine cents and twenty two one. That's insane. And so you get a giant sack of them for under four dollars. Not their disgust. They're horrible, their cheese is good, but in the shell is bad. The meat is like Shell is like seven weeks old.

It's rock hard.

I just want to get Taco Bell tacos and put that del taco cheese on the Taco Bell tacos and then eat those because they're much better. How dare Taco Bell think that their taco is worth a dollar sixty nine? I did.

I mean, you're going to charge that. Who are you? And these people have thirty nine cent.

You know, it's just it's a shit taco, right. Yeah. It's just a stale Taco Bell. That's all it is.

It's almost like if you go to someone's house who doesn't cook very well and they make house tacos, that's what they'll taco tacos are here like these are kind of suck them have any taste and it's shaped like a season.

The way you put that mixin right. It's just hamburger. It's there's mix that you put in and then water and produce it and it's dry.

And I got to chew a lot really. When I put it down, all the meat falls out a little pieces, doesn't stay together.

I just chop it up. So my God damn well you're supposed to. But then the stuff keeps rather. But you did not that not putting that in. It's got to be bigger than that. It's now a loose meat taco. Thanks. So yeah. He says that, you know, he's, he's doesn't, he doesn't know who stole the gun, he's not positive so he can't really blame her if he's not positive. So the cops are like, look, if you want us to if you want us to go arrest her for it, we'll fill out a report and we will if you don't think it is.

And what the fuck do you want from us? Special report. The gun is stolen. You don't know who took it? I don't know. So that's what they do. So some time goes by here. About nine days go by. No sign of Barbara, no sign of any weirdness. Nothing happens. And then June 9th, twenty seven comes along and Bill, they're alone in the House that evening. They're their younger son was out because he's in high school.

He's a teenager. He was out and he comes home like late, late in the evening, like before midnight right around there. Bill is going to go horseback riding with a friend the next day and he is fucking jacked about it. Yeah, Bill is he loves a good yeah. He loves a good horseback ride. And yeah. He talks to his friend on the phone talking about how great it's going to be. We're going to take the horses here.

We're going to go up this mountain. I mean, he had a whole plan.

It was his day, the same thing.

It was Bill Day and not on a horse yet. But I, I make plans with somebody to go somewhere. I'll that's about it. I can't afford it. We're going to do this. We can do that. It's so fucking great. I like to just have dinner and go to that. You do that.

You don't do that with me though because you're like I'll leave it alone if I sell it too much. He's not going to want to do it. I think it's great.

He's going to think I'm just going to go see you then I'll meet you guys at the gas station over here and then we'll all just go up together.

It's going to be great. One car will take one car. Why don't we just go and meet there, Jimmy?

Now, I know you're thinking about this trip is half of the fun, you guys. You're overthinking this. Jimmy is very excitable.

So he's he's doing that that night and cooks dinner. She makes steak, broccoli, potatoes. OK, a hell of a nice down there. It's a Montana ranch dinner. I mean, potatoes. Yeah, it was about a four. Steak, too, I'm sure, just a hunk of two chunks of cauliflower and broccoli, that's it, and then a giant baked potato. Yes. And he had a beer with his dinner as well. That's a good dinner right there.

That's a fine dinner. They do that. Their son leaves for the evening, goes to hang out. They get to fuckin. Yeah. And and Bill gets some fucking on that night after a steak dinner. He's got to let that settle a little bit for us to stay at half a cow. He's not going to start plowing away and anybody wants to do some of that comfortable side. Fuck that says you got to hold on. He just there you go now and you just kind of rock.

You got to move. This is a steak dinner. This is not a sheet rock nice. A sheet rock. And the kind of night, sweetheart, we're just going to just rock back and forth. There you go. Eventually something will happen. No more like like a North Carolina airport chair that's just rock gentle, like a Charlotte airport and gentle back and forth.

Now, maybe we don't know what happened. So you might have sheetrock that we were not sure. So he ends up he talks to his friend just before 10:00 about the horsing or horsing around about the Fargo fan or the freak show. Clark talks about Barack Obama, about riding and shit like that.

And so Bill falls asleep and Ann says that she went to sleep with him right around that time. The next morning, he she says that he wasn't feeling very well. And when his friend called about going out for the ride and talked to him on the phone and said that Bill says he's not feeling great at all, he's he's going to stay in tonight. So later that day, June 10th, Barbara takes Matt to Missoula, takes Matthew for a shopping trip.

They're gone kind of the whole day, just shopping around. It's it's an hour or something away. So, you know, if you go there, you go around and I'm and I'm sorry, not Barbara and Stout here.

She takes her son Matthew. They go when you go an hour and something away to shop like you got to get all your shopping. Not going to one store. Yeah. You're going to make a day of that. It's going to be in eight hour truck. You have to get because it's going to take an hour and a half to get there so they don't come home till the late afternoon. It's three hours of travel, though. So now Matt Matthew doesn't see his father didn't see him earlier the prior evening because he came home and he was already sleeping.

And so he doesn't see him that morning either because he's still in bed and he takes off. So they get home. And Matthew, about four thirty and they find Bill and finds Bill in bed. And then she sees there's a lot of blood around and a lot of blood everywhere. And she calls nine one one at four at four thirty pm. And she says that, quote, There's something wrong with her husband. I'd say a lot of blood.

Is something wrong? That's an issue. She says, quote, There's blood and his eyes are all bruised. He's cold. Well, yeah, those are all not great signs. So the ambulance, obviously, and police nine, well, everybody fucking rushes to the house. They confirm that bill is, in fact, dead. There's a lot of blood and they find a cartridge from a nine millimeter under the pillow. One shot. They find that one shot.

He's been shot in the back of the head, but one shot. So there's that and they find a shell. So they got they got some some stuff here that they find. That's it. So the officers, they get a search warrant to go over the whole house. They need prints and obviously all that kind of shit. Now, once they're investigating, Stout and her two sons obviously are like Barbara Miller is. Do you want to talk to clearly this is the one who did this to it.

You know, they said she she explains they had an affair with Bill. She's been stalking the family. You know, it's a whole thing because I'm homicide. Guys don't know anything about this. You know, Chief Ravioli knows. But Chief Boiardi knows this thing with no one else knows it. Deputy Beefaroni hasn't spoken to anyone about anything.

So he tells the she tells the officers that Barbours Harassment's been all that's been going on. Bill has been back and forth to the cops. He believed lately a couple of days are I'm sorry, like right before the gun thing, he believed that a car that turned into their driveway during, like during the night was Miller or one of her family members. So he's been living in fear. And also, yeah, acquaintances of Bill tell the officers about that.

Also hits all he's been talking about. He's been being stalked. He's been so scared.

And, you know, all of this type of shit, they're they're worried about it here, you know, so that is until they find just on a lark here, they're like, well, let's make sure let's try to find out if it was this Barbara Miller. And they find from a convenience store in Arkansas, surveillance video of her in Arkansas that morning. Huh. So that's that's a tough one. It'd be a tough ride. I'd be a tough ride or flight or anything.

She's an hour she's in a convenience store in Arkansas like 9:00 in the morning. So they're like, OK, that's interesting. That's weird. So they also. Figure out, so they're like, we have to go into this a little deeper, when they do, they find that and had conducted Internet searches related to Barbara Miller and to Bill on her work computer. And she also used that computer to create an account, an e-mail account using with Barbara Miller's name here.

They also found no evidence from flight logs and everything else that Barbara Miller has ever been to Montana. Get out of here. Not at all. One of the investigating detectives here back to the house, he offered his opinion that Bill's body was moved after he was shot. Oh, Shell. And after he was killed, based in part on the bloodstains found in and around the body, on and around the body. He's an officer with the Ravioli County Sheriff's Department and also the deputy county coroner as well, which, you know, it's a small town like.

How are you doing? I'm a sheriff so-and-so and I'm the coroner. Yeah. And by the way, if your kid's having a bar mitzvah, I'll cater the shit out of it. And the DJ as well. It's going to be wonderful. So, yeah, he ended up doing the crime scene. He said that the scene of Bill's death, he found a large volume of blood that had coagulated and he said the difference between dried and coagulated blood.

He tried to explain this a little bit. He said that the coagulation based on the coagulation and the drying, he said Bill had been dead for some time when he examined the body. They more also talked about the state of rigor mortis and lividity. Lividity. Yeah, so lividity and his observations to the body. He concludes. Bill has been dead for eight to 12 hours or so, if not longer.

That's not good. No. Yeah, if not longer. So the little girl in the house, that's not good at all. So they said the bullet also, Anne's contention is, well, if it's not Barbara, Bill must have killed himself because Bill's been depressed and all this type of shit. So it's obviously a suicide. They go, that's weird because most people don't shoot themselves in the back of the head. Yeah, that's right. Most people don't get in bed and put a gun behind their head and shoot themselves.

That's a very difficult that's very difficult to do that to shoot yourself in the back of the goddamn fucking head. It's not it's not normal.

The execution style suicide is it's rare. Yeah. It it's rare in crime circles that generally sends a message. Yeah. And you're not really you can't really send that message to yourself. He also had to cut his dick off, stuffed it in his mouth and shot both of his eyes out like the mob the mob did around. Yeah, that's yeah.

He's a rat now. So they were like, interesting, the bullet. They said the bullet could not have traveled through Bill's head to the position in the pillow where it was located. So that's also how they know he was moved from the blood and where the bullet was on it. They said the body must have been moved after he was shot. They said there was blood that was actually above or against gravity from the wound, indicating that the body had been moved as well.

So he also said that there was a defined margin or line in the blood stain on the left hand as if it had been partially in a pool of blood. But that hand was not in a pool of blood when the body was found.

So there was like, yeah, like a yeah, like a water mark on the sand, basically of blood. Water was this. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't it wasn't any more. Yeah. Somebody didn't mark the twain there.

So at the time they found the other areas of the body where it was like that too. He said there were coagulated deposits on top of bloodstains indicating that the blood had coagulated before it was put on the stain. So that mean he got moved and then it fell out of them there.

He also described other blood stains where that were deposited when the blood already coagulated because the blood had not run. He described the position of the body would have to be in at the time of death to create the blood patterns he found and then also based on the lividity and the purple. If you don't know what lividity is, by the way, I don't know.

I guess we're just assuming that everybody lividity is where your blood settles.

When you're dead, you're dead. You stay in one position. You're not sure it's real gross. Whichever side is down, gravity takes the blood there. And that's lividity. So they can tell, were they here or were they moved after lividity set in and shit like that? It's a good way to tell stuff like that. So they said that the lividity had become fixed with the body in the position in which it was found. So it was moved relatively soon after, after the battery was dead, after he was dead, they said that he'd been lying on his right side when he was shot and the body stayed in that position long enough for blood to begin to coagulate.

And then it had been rolled over onto the back position and that's how they found him. And they also said that there was a pillow over his head when he was found covering the entrance wound to the head, indicating that the pillow had been moved on to his fucking head. Obviously other it would be hard because it has no hole in it. So be difficult. They said also there were drops of blood found around the sheet indicating that the sheet had been moved.

This is not looking good. He also said fingerprints in the blood were left by someone other than Bill based upon the position of the betting and its conclusion that Bill could not have moved his hand to make the prints after he was dead. Oh, no. You know, obviously. So let's do a search of the house. They searched through the house. I don't have a hard time finding anything until they get to the garage. They find Bill's motorcycle out there.

It bill rides bikes and inside of a saddlebag, they find they find something interesting. They find the nine millimeter that has been missing. What?

Yeah, they continue the search and they find in a laundry hamper under some washed but still wet clothing. They find the holster that goes with the gun. And then the ammunition was found on top of Bill's gun safe and three rounds were missing from the center of the box so that unless the box was completely opened, it looked like upon opening from the end that it was full. Right. So that put them in the middle. Exactly. So they also appears, the officers say, with what they call what appears to be a laundry washing project that was never completed is the way they put it, wet laundry, smelling strongly of bleach was in the hamper, but had not been dried.

Oh, yeah. And the bullet that killed Bill and the spent shell casing were removed from the bed where he was found, spent shell casing from the pistol was found in the yard and an unfired round was found in the chamber of the pistol, accounting for the three rounds missing from the box. Now, if they brought in a botanical expert to. Yeah, yeah. To find out because there was a plant blossom found in the ammunition box. Oh, shit.

A plant blossom in there. And it showed it came from a bush in the yard that had first bloomed for the season at least six days after Bill reported the gun missing. It's the first time those plants bloomed in that area.

Holy shit, Grissom, slow down. OK, that was impressive. Let's go to back. That's pretty good police work here. OK, botanical examination. They found a small flower blossom right in the box and determined that those flowers, flowers didn't bloom in that area till six days after Bill reported it missing. Wow. So that has been sitting in these bushes that box on to determine from that, which is fucking amazing. It was hidden. It was hidden.

Yeah. Expert analysis shows that the two spent shell casing came casings came from Bill's gun. I don't know where the fuck the second shot was. Yeah, who knows.

As did the bullet that killed him. She said she didn't know anything about. And they asked and, you know, I think about this and she said, I don't know anything about a blossoming and I didn't know anything about an e-mail box blossom, anything like that. But she said, you know, I assume you're right. I don't know when it blooms around here, it's Lantana. I don't know. Yeah. At the time, both and the kids were saying that Bill's gun had been missing and they didn't know.

So they keep searching. They also find a latex glove. Oh, no. Embedded with gunshot residue on the outside of the glove and on the inside of the glove is an stouts DNA course it is not.

God damn it, I am located in the same laundry hamper as the holster and wet laundry. But she says, I don't know how my DNA could have gotten there. That's where you fell off the laundry. I don't know if DNA is it jumps around, runs around. She said that she often used rubber gloves around the house, but she had no idea how gunshot residue with her. Maybe somebody took a glove I had used around the house. I mean, they didn't get their DNA in there sometime.

Maybe they had another glove and then used this glove to frame me. Right.

That's how we're at Barber is tricky.

She also says nothing to do with the gun, nothing to do with the holster holster. Didn't know how they ended up where they were at that point.

You just got to go fuck, fuck. So cut when you guys out of your house. I had no idea your search in the garage. Yeah. I doubt if I killed him. I thought that I would get away with another way more here than they find no fingerprints from the gun or the ammunition and no gunshot residue on Bill's hand. So it's all so hard to shoot yourself in the back of the head without leaving gunshot residue on the hand.

He is magic.

So the search also reveals a note in Ann's handwriting in her nightstand that contained instructions on how to fire a pistol, stop a semiautomatic pistol like a Beretta. OK, and she claimed when the cop showed it to her, she said, no, no, no, that's not for a pistol. That's actually instructions for no on how to wash clothes in the drawer in the washing machine. Yeah, because he doesn't know how to do it. So this is just not the same for us, lady.

It's the same instruction and a gun use as it is for the washing machine. Put one in the chamber, pull the trigger. That's how you tell your kid to the fucking laundry and say, Buck, buck motherfucker.

Right. That's what you do when you put laundry and. That's what I do right now. Break yourself like a motherfucker, slap my fucking watch the door shut and I'm like, wow, cold cycle. She's a dipshit.

And it's like, no, no, I suck your dick. I'm like, no, motherfucker ain't going to work. I feel I felt so bad for and oh yeah, I felt sorry for the asshole.

So also gets worse there. A neighbor whose window faced Bill Anan's house reported seeing lights on in the bedroom area in the middle of the night the night that that bill was sleeping after the steak and fucking right. So the neighbors said they felt seeing the light on at that time was strange enough. Their lights are never on the middle of the night in the bedroom. So but I mean, someone could have had to take a shit or something. I mean, you know, someone got sick, who knows?

But still, little has never happened before.

So they're getting let's just say let's to put it lightly suspicious of and let's just say here then they got a computer expert in her computer, showed fifty six Internet searches for such topics as how to kill someone, how to poison someone and get away with it, how to put a person to sleep, how to make a person go to sleep, what kind of poison? It can't be traced. How can I do this without getting a fucking gun? How can I kill my husband, collect his life insurance and blame it on a chick in Arkansas?

She might as well have said that. Like it's that obvious.

She fucking James. She is so cold blooded. Yeah. She tortured him for two fucking years. Well, you know what else she said about it, too? She said, well, all that proves is that because Bill has access to that computer, too, that was the home computer. All that proves he was trying to say it proves that he wanted to commit suicide. And he was just he's been searching how to commit suicide, just like I told you.

Right. You know, with no gunshot residue in the back of his head or my fingerprints, not with my fingerprints on the DNA, DNA, not even fingerprints. Right. Resource DNA. So she is the beneficiary of the five hundred thousand dollar life insurance policy, because even if he committed suicide, that shit was up in January. So everybody's fine. And it was also the kohno co-owner of the real estate that they had with an equity of over five hundred thousand dollars.

So Ann's looking at a cool million in cash and prizes here. So the authorities here also said that autopsy results found that because the food in the stomach had not been digested, he must have been killed before eight a.m., which would be before they left, which is when she was still in the house and so was her son. So but she had to have killed him before the son came home. Otherwise he would've heard gunshots coming from the house.

So sometime between ten and twelve because he talked to someone on the phone at ten. Twelve, the son came home. Right. So somewhere from ten to twelve. So that kid slept in the house with his dead dad and then went shopping with his murderer like nothing happened. Unbelievable. So they interview and they want to have a little chat with that boy and they sit her down and they said, what happened? She says, I made steak and broccoli, blah, blah, blah.

We had sex. He called his friend. We went to bed a little bit after ten. That's it. Yeah, that's all it happened.

I left the next morning. He was fine. He said he didn't feel very good. So the police officer tells her that they have all the evidence to believe that actually you killed Bill, as a matter of fact, and not Barbara or some intruder. She says, quote, I can assure you that. I do know that. I do know oh, he I'm sorry. He says I can assure you that I do know you are the main suspect in the murder of Bill Stout.

We have all the evidence and all the findings to prove that. I know that he died before he left on Sunday morning. And I had the time of death to prove that. I'm asking you these questions now to help for you to help me with this investigation. And she broke into tears screaming that she didn't kill her husband. She says, quote, You are so misinformed, you can't prove anything because you don't know. You're not informed because that didn't happen.

She's very angry. She's upset that she would. How dare you say that? I killed my when she went full to it, after all. Yeah. So uninformed. You are uninformed. Here's an article. Yeah. That I made up about, but still that's on the Internet, has a link here. Statistics prove I'm right. I'm wrong. Right.

She says also that she never called Barbara Miller and, you know, threatened her and all that shit. She said she never sent any mailings to anyone with Arkansas postmarks. How did that happen? They go well, as a matter of fact, all of the envelopes had your DNA inside of. Oh, no, even the ones that weren't sent to you that were other people had their DNA from looking at it. And yours was the only DNA we found.

How the fuck did she get it postmarked? Interesting here? She said, well, I have no idea how that happened. That's ridiculous. She said, I never created any of the emails. I never did any of that. She said I didn't do that. She said that after she found out about the affair, she discovered Bill bought an airline ticket and that they were talking on the phone bill and Barbara and that bill bought phone calling cards.

And she didn't she didn't know about that. All that shit and that bill had registered with an online dating service in 2004, and that bill obtained a post office by a post office box that she previously didn't know anything about until he was killed and that she was angry and humiliating and humiliated. And, you know, they said that they the officers also found a list that she kept for years. It was years old, like the paper was crankily, years old.

And it was titled Really Mean Things Bill's ever said to know everything he's ever said. She literally documented it on a piece of paper. It was a list that went back years.

Now, like we always say, I'm sorry, women, but it's like a like an inside joke among men that women will catalog shit and bring it up eight years later. And they have it like literally like a card catalogue at the library and whip it out.

Well, actually, Dewey Decimal Dewey Decimal Fuckup says this. You, Dewey Decimal did some dumb shit on this date.

And but she actually kept a written list every year since the 80s.

That's hilarious. I have me in my phone. I have a notes app of all the nice things that Emily's ever said that nice.

This is crazy. That's insane. She needs like a boost of I'm mad at Bill. Yeah. He said that in nineteen ninety one. That bastard. Holy shit. I use it for the opposite whenever I feel like shit. I'm like Emily said this once. That feels nice.

Yeah. She was like he made a comment about the Challenger explosion. I'm upset in two thousand three. I wonder if she ever does that. Like just when she's pissed, she's like, how can I just channel this anger? That's why she isn't right. Why else would you have to keep track of it?

Because you're something. So the investigation also shows that the email accounts from which they everyone said Barbara Miller was messaging people were actually created on stouts work, computer break.

Aphasic was from her work computer. She and some of the emails had been sent from her home computer. Even she got a little lazy after a while. You know, they were asking doing it all that work. Yeah.

How did she get a postmark from where she flied Arkansas? No. Investigators were able to duplicate a Fort Smith, Arkansas, postmark, like the ones found on the letters that were supposedly from Barbara by mailing a stamped and addressed letter in a manila envelope from Hamilton, Montana, to the postmaster in Fort Smith, Arkansas. And they send it back and it's got the postmark on. It looks like, boom, there you go.

That's what that is. So that's what she was. She figured all this out on real.

She should have started a business of some kind because if she put half of the effort that she put into this Nazi going, holy shit, she would have been selling turquoise jewelry like her fucking balls were on fire. Get in to thrive, Shuger. Yeah. Also during the immediate search, all officers found two letters with Arkansas postmarks in Ann's car in the garage, one sealed and one unsealed and not never sealed, basically.

So she hadn't sealed it. Yeah, yeah. The others, just like the others. And that she's that started appearing that whole time. Anne's DNA was the only one found on the adhesive of the envelope postmarked from Arkansas.

And this was the one that was inviting Bill's work partner to the barbecue that they had only that one.

Everybody else had thrown the shit out, but someone still had it. The sealed Fort Smith, Arkansas, envelope found in Stouts Car during the search contained printed out emails purporting to be from Barbara, but they weren't. These printouts contained only ants, Ann's fingerprints and palm print. She said that she I don't know. I guess my my DNA was on the on the envelope. I don't know how it got there. I can't imagine, she said that maybe unknowingly she could have handled the contents of the Arkansas mailings because sometimes she helped Bill with paperwork.

Yeah. They also found in Stouts Bedroom a copy of the of the invitation to the barbecue address, to their sons, to their sons. The Stouts son's handwriting on the invitation was supposedly from Miller, was identified as stouts by a handwriting analysis. So she's fucked. And then I told you fifty six Internet searches for how to poison people, how to put people to sleep, how to kill your husband and get his life insurance policy and blame it on a check from Arkansas.

Give her a funny and give her a funny email address. So she said that she believed that these were Bill's searches, like I said. So, you know, it's all good. I don't understand what the problem is. The police say, well, you're under arrest here, obviously.

I mean, we're going to run it through the courts, let them think, yeah, she's literally like, I don't know what you're talking about. She's through all of this is a mountain. Yeah. A Montana sky sized fucking pile of evidence.

And she's going, I don't know how my DNA got everywhere. That's impossible.

I don't know how you all came up with all of this is crazy. Literally two hours. This is crazy. I get science and all. But come on, guys. So, yeah, she's arrested. She presented expert testimony. She says she's going to present expert testimony. Saying that the circumstances were consistent with either a suicide or a homicide, so he could have killed himself. That's her her thing here. OK. All right, lady.

Well, if you say so, June of 2008, they're in court here. And this is her trial. And the central theme here is that the prosecution, obviously, that statute deliberately and methodically created a giant illusion of a stalking that never Barbara had since those emails had never contact got caught. Yeah. And she was like she said at first, she said it was real. The one saying that she was going to come there and go to the doorstep and those were real.

I'll be there on Memorial Day. But then once he didn't answer back, she just cooled off and stopped. And that was that. She came to her senses because she's sane. Right. And was like, well, never mind. You know what? Not worth it. And then this boy put up a fight over a married man, and that's not going to leave. And I'm just exhausted. All this shit. This is. Yeah.

Imagine if she didn't go to a convenience store and she just sat home for two days and didn't do anything, they would have fucking went and arrested her. James, you might be right. Wide open spaces drives you crazy.

You bat shit, you not that type of shit. You're so bored. It's just I got to create something shit. I need excitement hating fuck. I don't know some shit. So not even a Lou Diamond Phillips. That O'Neal movie can occupy my time.

No, not even Hoyt Axton can take away the pain.

So the jury gets a little forensics lesson. Which computer forensics lesson, which is pretty fucking funny. Here is why a bunch of Montana ranchers and they get some guy sitting down to work.

Yeah, weird. I seen a button on there. Now they say the ads were computer and stout family computer. The computer was a laptop. They were all seized. Obviously, the computers were searched for evidence. The detective, Dave Potter of the Ravioli County Sheriff's Department testified here that when he searched Dan's work computer Internet history, he found someone had visited a California Supreme Court website that explained the mental defense.

Oh, so this is all shit he tried to erase.

So the her attorney, Bill Sheehy, said that while the computer's history might indicate someone visited the website, there's no way to know who that person might be. Several other employees use the same computer. So he then so they turned. They did. The chief computer forensic agent for the state's computer crime unit. He's the only guy in Montana who knows that a working computer here, he's the chief. Yeah. He testified to conducting detailed computer forensics on request computers in search of evidence to the alleged crime.

He gives a two hour presentation here. He says, quote, Computers don't delete things the first time you ask them to. I have tools to obtain, find and print any evidentiary relevance. So they talk about how she found the creation of two email addresses in the name of Barbara Miller. You know, the history showed the creation of emails from the Yahoo! Server in Barbara's name also provided a list of. He also provided a list of contacts within the emails, address book and several email messages sent to Bill and and several of the couple's friends that she sent all of those.

Obviously, one message titled Old Friends and Lovers Never Go Away, detailed the relationship between Bill and Barbara and mentioned a pregnancy that was sent from a created account. And Barbara created a account in Barbara's name on Ann's computer. Crazy. So the prosecutor says, So you're telling me that the jury you're telling the jury that somebody sitting at that computer had to create these emails because the computer history shows someone logged in and out of those specific email addresses? And he said obviously, yes.

They said the they asked if he could prove who created the email since the household laptop was used by several people. He said he couldn't tell the jury who created the accounts, the accounts, but only someone that knew how to log on to Anne's laptop would be able to create these accounts, obviously. So all they go into a bunch of shit, he said. The words most frequently searched on Ann's laptop were, quote, how to kill someone.

That's the first most popular search. That's not good. Common household poisons, how to put someone to sleep, how to poison someone, homemade poisons, how to poison someone and get away with it. Untraceable poisons and quote, how to make a sleeping formula.

Why does why do people Google this?

Stop, stop doing every type of crime.

They go like this and that. And that's the what's his name that got the watch guy. Yeah. His girlfriend that he was with, like on her thing. She searched like, do people hate the chick that was going out with Scott Peterson? Like she literally was certain that it's like, stop, you're embarrassing yourself. Don't you go to a library and do that. If you have to do it, go sit next to a homeless man who's jacking off and fucking look up the shit you need to look up but don't.

That's where you deserve to be doing that shit.

That's what I mean. So also on the workplace computer, they found commonly searched words on that computer were divorce planning a divorce? And Barbara Miller a little obsessed, I would say here.

I imagine this is her brain must have been horribly noisy place to be for that last couple.

The amount of pages that would show up for Barbara Miller, she would just be scrolling Gower's.

Did she lose her mind when her son died? Do you think that it's the trigger that got to be strong? Is that the hoarder's that you have? That's the hoarder's moment that makes you have 12 dead cats in your house.

The moment of the sun dead is definitely a trigger. I think the the push it over the edge is when the husband starts blaming you for that. Yeah, I think that yeah. I think those coupled he she couldn't get over it. Yeah. That's I mean going back and forth, who the hell knows. Yeah.

That was the problem and that may be why she didn't fair doesn't help either, but that may be why she didn't want to go to Arkansas with him because she didn't want to go on. I don't fucking know. My son's dead. Then you blame me for it.

But five years later you got either you got to either not get a divorce is two years later after an affair, but five years is nothing compared to your kids suicide. Five years is the time where you go. Either we're getting divorced or we're getting over. That's like, what are we fucking doing or how goddamn long are we going to fucking who's going to put her through the most?

And what are we having a competition for this shit? That's ridiculous. So and testifies she does.

Oh, she gets up. I'll stand man. That's balls. She says, quote, My life was very happy with Bill. We had a good life together. Wow. We were making plans to possibly move up to Bigfork, making plans for vacation and building a new house. She's acting like, I don't know what happened. Everything was great. Now, her attorney asked her if she was currently this is as time of trial one year later in a romantic sexual relationship with anyone.

And she says, quote, Yes, I currently have a boyfriend. Oh, my. I met him around Thanksgiving last year at one of Matt's sports banquets. What one.

Wonderful. Oh, she showed up at the parent thing. You and you left with a boyfriend and he left. And the boyfriend's not like you killed your husband. I'm not dating you. You don't even have a trial coming up soon. At least Google her name. Probably, dude, they let her out on bail.

And she's what? I mean, who's to be like, yeah, this is going to work out. You have a murder trial coming up. Why do people do this? Both genders. I don't get it. So Matt is the son testifies as well. He gets on the stand here. He says that he had nothing to do with his father's death. Obviously, clearly, he wasn't home. He says that he didn't help move his dad's body.

He didn't do anything like that. He didn't mislead law enforcement. He didn't know anything. He just his mom yelled. He said that he didn't hear anything unusual, unusual on the night of June 10th, not even a gunshot. I like how in Montana I mean, that's not even that unusual. I don't hear anything unusual. Not even a gunshot usually, or tons of those weird. Like not even crickets. Like that's how he said it.

Strange. Not a gunshot, not even roosters in the morning. So he spent the entire day. That would be the most weird thing that I know. Is that a fucking gunshot normally? Yeah. People. Did you hear anything last night? I mean, there's a gunshot. There's was alive, but he was like, I didn't hear anything. Gunshot No, not even that. No, no. Normally I wouldn't even mention that. But since you asked, I didn't even hear that either.

Unusual would be like a black guy would be strange here.

I haven't seen one around this time and I don't know when come out of prayer rug.

Not saw Will Smith movie about ten years back. Jesus Christ, no yamaka. Because they don't even sell them at the knickknack store. I mean, sell Western comics, wide brimmed comics, big old sudden Sundram money that only sits on a very small part of your head. It's a very wide brim. I want to make those you know, we make those beach yamaka I'm making that they probably have because Israel is a very it's a very big country.

Yeah. So maybe they have that. I don't know. So if not, that would be awesome. I'm sorry.

I've seen a Jewish half. That's a wide brim, but it covers the whole head. Well, yeah, I watched it on the fucking Yamano.

I want, I want a yarmulke that happens to have a giant wide Clint Eastwood.

So I'm looking for a western yamaka. It's damn near a bonnet.

That's what I like. Yeah, western. I want a western. Give me the Western, please. So no gunshots, no anything. Said he spent the day shopping in various places and while his father had plans to horseback ride, he said they return to the home. His mom found his dad dead and he said he helped his mother put away groceries and then went down to the family's basement and played on the computer. Then he heard his mom yelling and screaming and telling him to come upstairs and to get out of the house.

He said, quote, I didn't understand what was happening. All I heard was my mother screaming at me to get out of the house. I followed her. We drove my dad's truck down to our neighbor, our neighbors, while my mom called nine one one. I had no idea what was happening. I just overheard my mom talking. To 9/11 one about something happened to my dad, and he also says that he says that his father, as I said, was your father going to computers just to knock out the suspicion that he was the one creating stuff.

And he said that he was his father was not very good at computers at all and sometimes needed help from the kids. He's not a computer guy. He's a fucking rancher. He doesn't care about computers. He's a 50 year old rancher who's excited, jacked about horseback riding. Yeah, he doesn't care about that shit.

He hadn't even found out that there's porn there. He doesn't even know about it yet.

He'd be like, whoa. Oh, he's amazing.

Show me more. We're closing down the ranch, those horses to fuck themselves. I got to I won't be here to feed them for take a computer class at the community.

A lot of them got them all lined up. They, of course, asked Matt if he created the email addresses and all that stuff, and he said, no, clearly not. He also says that he knew about the alleged affair between his father and Barbara. He says that we never really talked about it. My mom briefly told me about the situation, but I never personally talked about to my dad about it because that's an awkward thing when you're 15 to bring up to your dad, how the fuck would you bring that such high, Dad?

So you getting some stranger? How do you bring that up?

I got I got a letter. Dad says I got a step. Mom, are you. Yeah. What elaborate baby brother come into my finally getting that baby brother. I know that. Do I have a new mom now? So the verdict comes in here. The jury deliberates for six hours, which seems like too long in this case. Like that's fast. You get them out and you go, I don't know what else the other solution there could be here.

So six hours of deliberation. This is for deliberate murder is the charge in Montana and they find and sort out guilty of deliberate murder. Roy? Yeah, they said the prosecutor was happy. He said this was a classic CSI story and there was an incredible amount of computer and technical technology work that went into it. None of that would have been possible. And think about like nineteen eighty if this happened, they would have been fucked.

They wouldn't know outside of one fingerprint on a letter, they would have had no evidence and they probably would have gotten arrested.

Barbara Miller, there's a fucking dead flower in here. This whole shit. This is crazy. Yeah. They would have they they literally be like someone got their plants in it. I don't know what's going on. They wouldn't even looked at it.

How they store in their fucking ammo. Weird. He said there were so many aspects to the case that when we did our best to try to make our case as concise as possible and they said that, he said that they did their jobs with the real victims in the case are the family members of Ann Stout. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah. Now, he said that this is fucking great. Oh, no, that's sorry. That's the defense attorney.

They said that they worked tirelessly, the prosecution, blah, blah, blah. They were very congratulatory to themselves, which they did a good job, I got to say. So they said that the public defender that defended Barbara had she called the verdict a result. He said it was just a you can call it a miscarriage of justice.

He said it's a result of the legal process that he said. Then he said, you know, I'll try again one day. Yeah. Then he said, quote, That's how our system works. I guess they felt as though I didn't raise enough reasonable doubt. And then he lowered his head and he walked away. Winnie the Pooh came up next to him and tried to cheer him up. I guess they thought I felt I didn't as though I didn't raise enough reasonable doubt.

By their Yacine Monteil by pool, where you just hold on, you don't forget your tail here. So sentencing comes around. The prosecutors are sentencing, recommending a sentence of life without the possibility of parole. And they said that she subjected her husband to two years of public and private humiliation. That's part of mental torment. Wow. Before shooting him. After she discovered an affair. Yeah. If you want to kill him after the affair, just kill him.

Get it over with. Jesus Christ. So the family, her family testifies. They asked if they could, you know, the one noice asked that he asked that a second chance be given to his mom in the by asking for a possibility of parole.

He's he says that it's what his father would have wanted, which I'm not sure.

But also porno is lost, his brother now his mom and dad. And it's tragic like shit. That's what Matt Matt, through all of this, he's in high school playing sports and shit like he graduates in 2009. This whole thing happens in twenty eight through. Yeah. If he's in he's in high school from 05 09. So imagine my grades. I would have fucking ran away. I'd have been a must have been a mess. This kid buckles down and play sports and does well for himself.

That's amazing to myself. In my job I don't know if I know is in college and hopefully he did well too, but I just found proof that mattered, he says. Noah says, quote, This hearing is justice for my father. When I think of justice for him, I don't see that as his grandchildren getting to know their grandmother by putting their hand against a piece of bulletproof glass. He says that he wasn't there to ask the judge, disregard the verdict, but, quote, to give my mother to give my mother no chance ever again, to give my mother no chance ever again.

That isn't the right thing. It's not something my father would have wanted. And Stout's mother here, this is Ann's mother, told the judge that she still believes her daughter wasn't even guilty. Wow. Which is you've got to listen to that trial and then go. I don't see how she did it. You got some sack on you, lady.

And also, Noah, I think your dad might be OK with her going. Yeah.

If he found out she deserved it, that she did all this shit for two years. He did. He does.

So he just shot her out in the field like a fucking I got sick like like a broken horse.

So a horse that stepped in a hole that was caused by a sick cow.

So the mothers here said mothers know their children. I know that. I know that my daughter is a good individual. I wish that I had been able to protect my daughter from this terrible ordeal. What about Bill? He's dead. She manipulated this.

Jesus Christ. Your daughter's a victim. Yeah. Her brother Stouts brother, whose name is Jose Luis Moreno.

Somehow, I don't know how the fuck that happened. Other mom found a fucking Latin guys. Yeah, hang on. I will. Taking, I guess. Well, the father disappeared when she was four. Oh, I found other people.

He says that Stouts Dibbell stouts death left a large this is void in the family's life and sentencing stout to life without a chance for parole will just make it worse for all of us and her children. We all love her. We haven't given up on her and we never. Well, OK. And says in her in her statement, can't wait. She just very simple. She asked that she be allowed to have parole someday and the chance to return to his or her family as quickly as possible to help her sons recover from the loss of their father.

She says, quote, Allow our family the seeds of hope.

And the judge says he says that he didn't find any mitigating circumstances at all. Nothing on your side here for the murder. And a prison sentence report said that she failed to show any remorse for the killing. He said, quote, From every indication, your reaction was more intense than one might expect. Then the average affair. Yeah, you began a lengthy, really troubling campaign of vindictive, serendipitous attacks on Bill and not just directed to him, but to your own children, family and neighbors.

Everybody is important in Bill's life. It was really, really extreme behavior. This is just coming from a judge here. It went on for months. You never trusted Bill after that. You thought he was devious. I think Bill was probably doomed from that point on. All of that indicates some degree of lack of emotion. Two years of this shit, your children will be deprived of your company. It's not because you've been convicted of the crime.

It's because you've committed the crime. You, ma'am, may fuck off life with the possibility of parole, but life anyway.

Yeah, door open for parole.

But he specifically made parole parameters here that she's open for parole, but only after she is psychologically evaluated and completed any recommended mental health treatment. Oh, that's going to be never like your fucking whacked. So until you're not whacked, this is going to have. But again, if we let you out. Absolutely. She she suffered. She appeared to suffer from an inability to accept reality, he says, which won't be cured by a few counseling sessions.

This is what the judge is telling her. He says, quote, Miss Missed Out has a great deal of soul searching and mental health work for this rehabilitation to ever even be possible in this case. And also, they say that she's going to have to pay court costs accrued here because she lost from the state public defender's office and other courts. They told the the public defender costs fifteen thousand dollars. And then the prosecuting attorney challenged the amount, saying a more realistic fee for the homicide defense would be, this is crazy for would be between 70 and 100 thousand dollars.

He wants her paying much more. Yeah, she says he says, quote, There's a whole segment of the population out there who are paying for this defendant's defense. And the fifteen thousand dollar estimate looks like a nineteen eighty five bill judge. It's twenty eight. It's going to cost more than that bullshit. So they said they set a hearing for it later on and whatever.

The judge felt very, very well respected being corrected, like, thanks, asshole. Oh, it's two thousand for you, motherfucker.

Thanks, David. Appreciate it. We're going to have a chat. Man, you look at my calendar in there. So she appeals quickly on this. She says that her main points are whether the district court properly allowed expert reports. She was saying there should have been any expert reports on the flower on this, all the forensics. She said, how is that? How do you have literally they were challenging, like there's no expertise in like that's the type of crazy shit they were saying, like they were really grasping at straws.

In 2008, there was CSI has been on the air for eight years. Yes, they are mad. Prosecutors said it was a CSI case. That was a statement. The other thing she's saying is that her whole campaign of trying to all the letters and emails and all that should have not been admissible because she's saying that's part of a separate act and that's a separate act that she's not charged for here. Shouldn't be involved in this. Obviously, the prosecution saying, well, that's all one act with the murder, you don't see.

So if you rape and murder someone, that's separate charges. Well, I wanted to rape them and those were separate thoughts. I had. No, they'd all go together. That's the point. You did this in order to do that. Right. So she says no. When that goes on a big argument, they really take like they try real hard here to do this. She also says that the officers shouldn't have searched the saddlebags found on the motorcycle in the garage because the motorcycle was not specifically listed in the search warrant is one of the vehicles.

It says whole property, house, garage, this vehicle, that vehicle, this vehicle. But the motorcycle is not on there. Listen, it's in the garage. It's in the garage. Her contention is that it exceeded the scope of the warrant by looking into the saddlebag. If the gun wasn't sitting on the fucking handlebars, where is it then? You have to look inside things, for Christ's sake.

When you just look at the toolbox, you don't look in it. Yeah, it's the same thing. It's in the fucking garage. Yeah, all the way. You just hide things under things and nobody can ever find anything up. But you're innocent. I guess it was under the van dam and as long as you leave it on the kitchen table, I guess you're fine. So they said that the district court denied that holding that the premises to be searched were described with particularity, including the attached garage, and that a search of the garage and whatever containers and receptacles were located in the garage that might hold a firearm related to the death of Bill was were permissible, which is makes perfect fucking sense here.

So, yeah, she she also she says that that's so fucking ridiculous. She said that her attorney was ineffective in limiting the scope on which evidence could be considered by the jury. So to get to not he didn't limit the scope enough. Basically, he didn't get all of the forensic evidence excluded and all of the computer evidence and, you know, all the evidence that she left behind. So that's his fault. It's his fault. There's a mountain.

Yeah.

It's like, look, that's they've got all this. Yeah. It's nothing I can do. Yeah. You take one, you take five things out of that. She doesn't matter and it doesn't matter. No, this is a complete Jenga thing. You can take a shitload of pieces out and that bitch still stands and you know exactly what the fuck it is. You know, it's it's not a pile of Jenga. It's a fucking standing thing. You take five things out of a Jenga.

You could punch it and it's not going anywhere as solid as shit.

So the judge disagreed. He said there was evidence presented at trial indicating email accounts in the name of her had been created by you. Also, that your DNA is fucking everywhere and it shouldn't have been, obviously, and that your main defense is that your husband committed suicide was asinine. Crazy. Yeah. And not raised by the attorney charged with presenting the appeal because he said, how the fuck would you shoot someone in the back of the head with no gunshot residue?

I can't present that to a judge and expect them to. I got it. I'm going to be disbarred. I got to work here like I come here all the time. This guy to go into a room with bars here and we're going to see this asshole again, to come back in front of him and, you know, be embarrassed that I tried to pull this shit off an escort. He's going to look at me the same, look at me like a jerk off the rest of my life.

I'm going to be representing the kid for for theft. And he didn't do it. And the. Just remember that time. Come on, man.

Yeah, she's just crazy. So it's not so the decision here, he writes in his decision that the any evidence that her husband committed suicide was scant at best, contradicted by a number of facts, including that the husband was shot in the back of the head while laying on the bed. His body was moved after death. Drops of blood were found either under the sheets were found under the sheet that covered him. The gun was nowhere near the bed where he was shot or even in the bedroom.

You really difficult to shoot yourself in the back of the head with a fucking through and through right. Comes out with brain matter and then get up and put the gun in your saddlebag in the garage and go back to your fucking house and back to bed. That's impressive. I got to go die. Yeah. I don't even want to go out the pistol and I have to.

And then I wake up, start a laundry project and be like, I don't have time to do this. I'm bleeding out. Yeah, it's it's ridiculous. He said this evidence was acknowledged unchallenged and notably unexplained by the defense. You, ma'am, may continue to fuck off for a very long time, including right now where she is an inmate of the Montana Women's Prison at seven oh one s Twenty Seventh Street in Billings, Montana. They have a phone number in a way you want to call them.

You can call and say that she's an asshole if she wants four six two four seven fifty one hundred. Hey, good morning. Is and still there. You got and there. Yeah. And Miller still look great. Total Dick. Right. That's what I thought.

I thought so. I know it was a fucking liar.

So that is Darby Montana. Hey. Is and started some counseling. Is she available for her to talk. So that's Darby, Montana. And that is a wild case. That's like this was a take a break from the Gore week because it's Halloween month. So we're going to have a couple of crazy ones here coming up at the end. But I was like, let's have a twisted story. Yeah.

You know, one of these, like Mr. Murder Mystery movies, certainly hate somebody hard.

Yeah. And then shifted completely to somebody else. That's a great story.

When somebody hard for deserved. None of it. None of it.

She just thinks you should not screw the married guy. But that's not our problem. She's not married to him. That's his fucking fault. So he's she's just banging her high school sweetheart right now. Oh, boy. So hope you enjoyed that, Montana. I hope you guys liked being back again. Sorry it took two years to get back to you. You do have a crazy state, so we should talk about it more.

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Found out how you are licensed or Statham do so screw me. I am license plate illiterate.

I am worse at license plates than you are at producers. Fucking terrible at it.

That's that's not your fault because you're trying to read real words and you're trying to make real words out of not real words.

And I'm over here trying to make real words out of real fucking work and I can't do it with names.

Don't make sense. They're in other languages. I get it. There are no free kuffar. No, no.

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That said, damn Jimmy, after this dirty, filthy story, I need to hear some people who would never, ever start a campaign of intimidation and falsities to make us feel paranoid in our own homes and then shoot us in the back of the head and try to make it look like a suicide. Hit me with the names, Jimmy.

This week's executive producers are Geoff Thompson, William Valencia, Melissa Swiger donated both ways very much. Amanda Jackson, Nicole Hodgson, James Hooper, Dannica Ferner, Tim Peterson, Thomas Smith, Clay Thorson, thank you very much.

Thanks, Clay. Who was the best? He goes above and beyond constantly. I can't thank you enough, man. Thank you. Thank you. Melissa Turner in and also in memory of Daedra, who is the victim of the ultimate domestic violence. It's fucking horrific. But thank you very much, Melissa.

You keep your friend Deidre alive via that Jordan Bennett, Zach Warburton, Joseph Nygaard, I think. And boy. Oh, boy. Oh, so the Coal and other producers this week are Laura Fields, Laura Mikalah, Makololo, Kimberly Moore Long, Angie Clements, Joshua, Neil Clements. Melinda, see, what did I do see? Jagdeo No, that's not right. Now there's probably another explosion missing and this one's even worse. Bicego Bardo bootblack.

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