Hey, everybody, you're listening to Smart Lists hosted by Jason Bateman, Will Arnett and myself, Sean Hayes. I know I wish my voice was more masculine to this show is about learning through laughter and the brains of people around the world who are far smarter than us. Three idiots. And each week one of us brings on a guest to the other two don't know about. So with that, let's jump into the smart little rocket ship and let's blast off into the universe together.

Oh, I think I just heard myself on. Smart loves our show Smart Listeners brought to you by AutoZone, America's number one battery destination. Get in the zone, AutoZone. Do you guys still game like are you gamers?

Yeah, you are. Absolutely not.

Because will you try to get me gaming like 75 years ago and I like played one round with you. Such a I know many, many years ago and I was like, I'm out. I can't figure it out. But Scottie is obsessed with Mario Kart, like on his phone.

Wisconsin listener. That is Shawn's husband. Yeah.

So that's been Scutti, right.

OK, so listen, I recorded him. This is just like a half hour ago getting really upset at the Mario Kart. What are you supposed to do in the game? I said, that's all I'm supposed to do to hit these big, huge, giant mushrooms driving on the course and I keep missing as I make you feel pretty upset. Wow.

And here's the disturbing part, is that he didn't know you were you recording him? So that's the real that's your real world that you're driving that kind of hostility.

And I love how Kurt, you go with. I said that. Yeah, yeah.

You're dealing with a real short fuse and a guy who doesn't like employment, clearly right in the middle of the day.

He was working all day, actually. But he he he was I was just tickled about how upset he gets at this little children's game.

Sean and I went on a trip to Istanbul. We've been on a couple of vacation days. I remember you got real heard about it before. That's why I'm bringing it up again. But the point is, the whole way there and back and that from L.A. to Istanbul is like a 13 hour flight or something. Sean played Candy Crush both ways.

Yeah, sure. And I slept the whole way.

It woke up right before we're landing and stuff. And Sean was just up. So we do the things we're both good at. I'm good at strategy and you're good at sleeping.

All right. So first of all, do you guys get are you more relaxed when you are hosting the guest or are you more relaxed when you're in the blind like you two guys are today? Because today's my guests in the blend, much more relaxed. You don't get anxiety that like what if the person that is the guest is somebody that either you're not interested in or you know nothing about and you don't know what to ask, which gives you more stress?

I think it's kind of exciting. It's exciting. I like that both are exciting. I like meeting people that we all know. And so you're excited right now, is what you're saying? I'm very excited.

I'm one of those. Great. I'm so excited that I'm not willing to stand up.

Oh, well, temper that. Temper that, because this is not this is not one of our more attractive guests. It's a good thing that listener can't see this person. They they're they're certainly not known for their looks or their talent or kindness. Oh, but if you were a fan of, let's say, projects like Makin Me or if you're a kitschy horror fan, you loved her. And Leprechaun, ladies and gentlemen, by the way, I am a fan of Leprechaun.

Well, then you should be just tickled.

Stay seated, Sean. Don't stand up and show her. No way. Ladies and gentlemen, Jennifer Aniston. Yes. No. Again, no. You know what? Let me just say, Jen, you're gorgeous, Jason, even in jest, don't ever say that about Ellie. She's gorgeous. You're terrific, Jen.

So I tell you, God bless, please, Jason, because are you poor Jen? She's tough to look at.

Can you turn your camera off, please? Yes, hold on. Let me do that one out of the mark.

Are you are you still. How many years were you the most beautiful people in the world? Oh, my God.

I did 10 years. So I want to know what you're eating. What is that right there? It's Jason Bateman stable. It's a chopped salad. Oh, that's so nice. It might have some feta cheese in there.

You've got the chicken in that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And the Aniston dressing. Yeah. God, it's so good. I got it all, babe.

By the way, every time I've been in your house, you're eating a chopped salad. I know.

Every single time I'm eating a chopped salad. Yeah, there's always a chopped salad ready in case you know what I'm saying. I've had it many times. Here's one of the things and I brought this up the other day that Jason loves to as we know, he loves to eat almonds and he's always like looking at nuts and whatever and whatever.

Amanda lets him. Yeah. Just like little berries off the ground and stuff.

But when he comes to your house, he loves eating your jars of candy because for some reason he feels like he didn't buy it. So it doesn't count. Right. So he stands next to him and he hammers them and I'm like, what are you doing? I just get so excited that there's jars.

I've never seen you hammer the Eminem's like that. I'm sneaky with that kid who escaped from fat camp. He's there.

I my daughter's in there and we just take down a whole bunch of it.

You know, the word for his kids, they believe I think all of your kids actually I don't know if your well, your kids ever bought it, but that there's a camera looking at the candy jars so that they are terrified to actually steal candy without their mother or father doing that.

Smart. And it works.

Maple's the only believer, actually. Yeah. By the way, like the Batman girls are afraid of Jason.

I mean, let's be honest, right? I do enjoy playing good cop. Oh, yeah. Well, I think a man and I are pretty good at switching off back and forth, doing good cop, bad cop. I would ask that to the group. What would you say about that.

What about you? About you and Amanda know about like do I come across in this your interview? We're going to get to you in a second. Well, I want you to tell me I'm trying to pull up my script for Mac and me just to see. Yeah, I was reading from it.

I was your first film. Right? Please come on. I'm not in 1987.

Listen, I sat on a blanket in the background. Did that is that in my Wikipedia page? Yeah. I am the worst interviewer in the world. It's all Wikipedia for me.

I just conversation starters.

Yeah, but wait, but let's wrap me up for one second.

Sure. Of course. We'd love to have you up in a tiny but do unstrapped about ten years ago.

Bates', do I strike you as a disciplinarian or permissive. I would like to answer that. I think Amanda because she's a strong, incredibly wonderful woman. I just assume she's the enforcer. You're the enabler.

Yeah, because you're very sweet.

I worry about Amanda. I sometimes feel like what's going to end up taking her life is she's going to one time just roll her eyes into the back of her head and they're never going to come.

She's going to it's going to be an eye rolling incident and that's what's going to finally take her.

Oh, all right. All right, guys, we have Jennifer Aniston. Come on, let's tighten it up.

All right, listen, now, let me tell you what Wikipedia has yielded here. Hold on. Hold on.

Go ahead. Well, congratulations on your baby, Willie.

Thanks again. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah, he's doing great. I congratulated him on that. I'm sure you haven't done anything OK. Hi, Sean.

Hi, honey. How are you? Good. How are you doing? Good. I'm trying to pretend like I'm trying to pretend I'm the listener and I don't know you like what would I ask you if we you know.

And so when I'm over your house, it's so warm and friendly and it feels like home.

And that sounds really cheesy to say it, but it feels like, yeah, this is it's so easy. You live there. Yeah, absolutely. I could totally live there. Yeah.

So I want to know, like when you have gatherings like that, is, is that fulfills something in you that you like because you don't have kids. I don't have kids. It's like because I do that too.

Sometimes I love to entertain. Yes. And I love to light fires. Yeah. Whilst entertaining.

You're being very modest in Sean is making a point which Jason will concur with because he spends even more time there with, with you. But I've spent a lot of time at your house as well. You're very warm and you do love to entertain, you love having people over and you're very maternal.

You're like instinctually maternal and your friends are like family and you have a lot of parties around a lot of holidays and you get a lot of people together.

And I agree with Sean. It's always a really good feeling being there. You always feel very welcome. There are a lot of laughs. Everything's about laughing and having a good time and. I've never left there being like, fuck those guys. Mean, it's always I mean, they've been horrible.

The worst about Jason for sure, because he always leaves early before Amanda.

Like to clear out. You do like to clear up. Can we just trust you on that? Can we blow up your spot? Jason likes to leave places about 90 minutes earlier than his wife.

Well, that's we take two car sojourns often. Often we take two cars.

Yeah, because unless you're on vacation with him, then he can't leave you then.

Then we're just stuck with you both some good late nights when we're I mean, late night midnight on 11:00 or something like that. Pretty late night.

But it is true when you have so many friends and just so many and you have so many good friends, you don't have just a lot of like sort of haphazard friends. You know, you have really close relationships with people, a lot of one on one relationships. You're good to a lot of people. You're very sweet.

And it's a testament to to somebody about how the quality of their friends. And you have really great friends.

Would you guys agree? Yes, I would agree.

I would even admit that I'm not complimenting myself. I mean, I am you I think this is really a plug for Will and being a great friend and being a really good guy.

Welcome to the podcast. Jenn, did you grow up in a house that had a lot of entertaining going on? And was it always sort of nurturing and kind of like a fun, warm place to have a bunch of friends over? Or is that something that is wholly yours and came as a result of a particular period in your life?

There was a period of of time where my parents, when we moved to New York City and my dad was on a soap opera after we'd kind of been struggling for a while.

You know, we were we were my dad didn't really hit it the way he wanted to. So then we moved to Greece and then we he was going to go to medical school there.

How long did you live in Greece? I lived in Greece for a year. Wow.

I lived in Athens for six months and then Crete for six months. Wow. And then I didn't know that.

Wow.

Really, it's not on my wiki page, so maybe it's on the dancing on Checker's grave. There it is.

Page six there and there it is. Greece. Oh look at you.

You're like, oh, I didn't know you fish. It's a great picture of you pulling up a lobster trap. Yeah, no, no.

Look for this sheep. Look for me. There should be one to me milking a sheep.

I love it. Your dad said fuck it to the acting business. We're going to Greece and I'm becoming a doctor. Yeah.

Isn't that crazy? Those crazy Greeks? Well, that didn't happen. So then he he go back to New York. He moves us to New York.

So we start out in California, born born here, Sherman Oaks Turn Avenue right around the corner from Castlevania. Remember, we talk.

Oh, I love that. Yeah. And then moved and then we went to Greece and then he got a job on a soap opera, Love of Life. And the rest was the beginning of of history.

Yeah. How long was he on that soap opera before he was on that soap.

I want to say four, maybe five years. And Christopher Reeve's played his son on that show so they would have poker parties, they would have poker nights. And there was always that sound of laughter and they'd tried it.

They'd put me to bed and I would kind of always crawl, you know, out of the bedroom, down the hall to just sort of peek around the corner and just watch all these people being fabulous and hearing, like, ice, ice, you know, clinking glasses and laughing.

And LA I grew up very similarly. Yeah. So that that's sort of I guess I kind of thought and then it all crumbled. And the family, by the way. So so yes, I'm still trying to recreate those happy moments of my life.

Is this the point of this whole thing is you're trying to think that a happy day you had one day, so the seed was planted that adults entertain.

I like that. All right. Yeah, it was nice.

They have fun. They were having a good time. One of the other things that interested me here, I'm going to skip right over friends and I'm going to go to the four year hiatus that followed friends and preceded your return to film work in ninety six.

So I have this right. Oh, you're a film. Are you a film actress? She sure is. Oh, what did you do? It says here that there was a four year gap after friends and before you started film work. Is that right?

And if so, absolutely. No, no, that is incorrect. Jason, you wrote this thing. This this well. Did you write any last names? Wikipedia?

I do not know his first Mr Pedia wiki. All right.

Here's my favorite part about this before you answer. Don't just want to get off, because I want you to know that listener in Wisconsin that right after this Jen's going to go.

It's in Amanda like Jason, ask me this stupid question. And he didn't even ask me if I took a four year gap. Right. What you should. You were well within your right and then a man is going to go chasing what the fuck you asked her.

You said this should have bought Cap and Jason is going to get I and you deserve to be. I wanted to know what he said on purpose, you want to go back to Greece for four years or something. This where this now goes back to the podcast that I love so much, where you talked about all the mirrors being put up and the amount of time it took Jason to ask the question.

Well, see, that's why we call it smart list. I'm not a smart guy.

I'm not a great interviewer. That's not true. I'm not I'm wicked right now.

You're really you're this is we're pushing it right now. But but I didn't have a huge fan of this podcast. Can I just say.

Come on. Really? Well, you're a fan of yours. Well, this is not about me right now. It is, actually. This is about you and how good of an interviewer all of you are. And I've enjoyed it thoroughly. Now, I took. Let me explain to you, because you were in my first movie that preceded Friends, which was called The Breakup Note.

The breakup was the first film after friends. Yes. All right.

Once friends completed and we rolled right into the Chicago, remember. And you were and you were in that film.

I do remember being in that film. I love that film. That was a great film. So you made all of those movies while you were on friends, all those other movies like, I don't know, Leprechaun and McCamey.

No, just stop talking about those two movies, OK? Those were not like Bruce Almighty and all those. That was during friends. Wow. So, wow, you just never took a break.

I didn't. And I liked it. Yeah. Yeah. I really enjoy working. What about now. Well I've been on this weird you know, I haven't really left the house lately.

I don't know about you guys. What happened. I have not been working lately. It's very strange. Wait a minute. That because of the pandemic and because of the downtime. Did you is that a a thing that you enjoy being forced upon you the break or are you, like, going crazy? You'd rather work?

I really leaned into the break.

I have to say, I kind of if someone says no, you actually cannot go to work and you just have to stay home, that's like a happy birthday.

But, yeah, there have been these interesting ups and downs of moments where you just like, feel this anxiety. And of course, it's because you've watched the news or you see what's going on in the world and it's absolutely devastating and unthinkable.

Yeah, I had to turn it off after a while. You have to. But and it also you feel so impotent to help, right? Like they're asking us to help by being passive. Stay in your house is the best thing you can do. And it's like, OK, if I do go out, I wear a mask. Like that's all. I mean, I see all these people working so hard to save all these lives, everything it's like.

And look at them. I know. Exactly. I know.

But do you kind of feel like at this point that like, weirdly just sort of by luck because you have to that finally, like Jason, for instance, that finally something good is happening with you make a virtue out of necessity, like in your case, your impotence now is really valuable.

Yeah, it's valuable to be important. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Are you finding that as a big asset, what I can learn from it.

Yeah. No, finally it's I don't feel quite as bad.

Everyone's in the same boat as me now, you know. Hey, Jason, you know the thing I like best about AutoZone? What's that, Sean? What's the way they cater to famous people like me and you? I'm sorry. The way that that I got to tell you, when I had a check engine light on, they checked it out for free with fix finding when I needed a tool I didn't have. They let me borrow one. Called it a tool.

Yeah. I remember when I had that battery problem, remember that they tested and charged my battery for free.

They do free battery testing and charging what that's part of what makes them America's number one battery destination. But I mean, you know, I got that same level of service. Well, of course you did.

And that's what I'm saying. You are at least as famous as me.

You know, I think that they give that kind of quality service to everyone. Look at AutoZone rewards, for example. Oh, the rewards.

You're going to leave this. I texted the name of my own podcast, Smart List to six seven one three five. So are your own podcast. Yeah. And they gave me a five dollar reward. You know, we literally talked about this last. And after a few visits, they gave me a twenty dollar reward. It was like free money jasen.

No way they do that for just a few things. It's not free money. It it is a reward that you use towards purchases at AutoZone. And, you know, they do it for everybody. Anyone can text Martellus to six seven one three five, sign up with a valid email and get a five dollar Volkswagen.

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You know, I don't know about you, Sean.

Well, I do know about you, but I'm going to say that I have slept on some pretty terrible mattresses in my day, you know, when I'm on the road or I've crashed at a friend's house. You know what I'm talking about? I know what you're talking about.

I was an elf on tour with Kenny Rogers. You know, that bus wasn't comfortable. Doesn't sound comfortable. What? It killed for a good mattress. How are you sleeping these days?

Well, funny you should ask. I got my new Helix Mattress and I'm sleeping like a baby. I took the Helix Sleep quiz. Just takes two minutes to complete and matches your body type and sleep preferences to the perfect. What a match would match me with Helix Desk. Oh, that's nice. Oh, I took you took the quiz though.

I did. I did take the quiz and it was super easy, that soft medium and firm mattresses.

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Marlis, you know, listening to you will, I'm getting kind of snoozy. Oh, one night night. How about this, how about what's the closest you ever got to quitting the wedding? Yeah, great business. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's good.

Oh, I don't oh, I would have to say the last two years that has crossed my mind, which it never did before.

Really? Why is that? Because you feel satisfied now or before you started the morning show. You mean before the morning show? It was after a job I had completed and I was like, whoa, that was really that suck the life out of me.

And I don't know. If this is what interests me, I mean, and I my fantasy of just sort of what if you just, you know, what was it, a creative sort of wall that you hit?

Or was it more about like the people you were working with, or was it just sort of like over it all?

It was an unprepared project. You know, that was we over we've all been a part of them. And you always say, I'll never again.

Never again right now is or will never back up into a start date. Right. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lack of organization. And the script isn't ready. And you're stuck there for three months. Yeah. Yeah.

Or so this is why I always try to push you into directing because you are so professional and you were so responsible and you are so aware of how the sausage is made and could provide great leadership for that large group of people. It takes. I just I'm just a big fan of of your abilities. I hope that you jump into that chair more.

I would love to jump into that chair more. I enjoy it thoroughly. And I think it's I would love to see you making some sausage.

Yeah. Oh, let me just. Just for what? It's a distance. Yeah.

I still have to say. Don't you love Jason's metaphors are just fantastic. A casing.

They're incredible. I often wonder where he collects them because I know he collects them and then he distributes them like a little spiral book.

Wrinklies. Yeah. Do you store them like where they work. Yeah. What do they come through in the here.

That, that's why that here is so thick.

How good is his hair. How good is Jason's hair. I never talked about it. UFO glad we're back to me again.

OK, so anyway I want to, I wanted to ask about that because I think a lot of people when they've been in the business a long time, kind of toy with well gosh I Wisconsin listener, we mean show business going on business trip, the business trip, the business trip that we've gotten a lot out of it and what we've put a lot into it to, but that we come towards a crossword kind of where we're like, gosh, if I could do something, what else would I do and could I leave this all behind?

Because a lot of people, like we were talking about before in another episode that we love when actors announce their retirement right.

And never do it, it's like don't ever say you're quitting smoking. Don't announce your retirement anything. Right.

But what would that other thing be? That if you had to pick something else, interior design, probably more interior design, you're very good.

You'd be good at that. I love that. It's my happy place. It's really a happy place for me. Do you do it for other people? Do you ever, like, have friends? You're like, you know what? I know you didn't ask me, but let me help you with that.

I'm not that kind of person, but I think it yeah. I've also offered help to people when they say come over and just help me with this. And I go, well, first of all, that's got to go. And they're like, no, again, I love that.

That's my husband. Yeah. Which is usually where I start by the chase. That's usually Jason Statham. Can I ask you another regular person question? You don't want to go back into the Wikipedia stuff.

Why didn't you do Lepre Gunta? Was it the script where you're not happy with this kid?

I love that movie. I love that movie. Don't say when you were a kid ever to me again.

Ever. OK, sorry. We're the same age.

Oh yeah, that's right. Well how old were you. You were like fourteen when you made it right. Fifteen. Sixteen. I was twenty one.

Oh never mind. Smart enough to know better. Yes. What is that. What is the most favorite job you've ever had.

You're like if you think about it you're like oh my God, I wish every job could be like that. I laughed so much I made some friends. I still connect.

I bet a lot of them. So many. Yeah. All right. Next mean.

Well, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding my lot more than one answer. Yes. I loved well obviously friends that's that's got to be number one, right.

Yeah. It's all family. I would have to say that's number, that would be number one.

I always love shooting with Sandler. Yeah. Just go with. It was super fun.

We shot it in Hawaii so that was half of why that was incredibly fun. And and, you know, we've we've known each other since we were nineteen, so. Yeah.

How many films have you done with. You've done three with him. I want to say two to two. Right. Yeah. Two murder mystery. And then. And then that was it. Mm.

So break it down. So let me ask you this then. Obviously friend's doing another one though. Are you doing another one with Sandler.

That's great. That's so good to hear. So obviously friends it's like the number one in and we get it. Why. And you guys get along so great and you're all still friends in real life which is so awesome. And all those people are really great people. And it is and it's like Jason said, it's a family. Yeah.

What was your favorite film that you made that you felt the most?

And not to disparage any of the other ones. This it's not it's not sort of like ranking them.

It's more like the experience times, how you thought it came out and how. You were what I got from the CIA when you got from it. Yeah, if you could just go ahead and speaking to the mic.

That'd be great.

I was told very clearly how far just we're getting great level from being too loud or so I tend to scream on these things.

How is your Sipi there going on? It's like the microphone even moved to the side for that SIPI.

It was like you're like competing like the water is going to compete with the microphone for your mouth like Jesus listener Sean has a tremendously large microphone in front of his face.

You know, it's like a cartoon. It's like. So Jen, what was your what was that favorite though?

What was that movie that you did that you were like? Yes, I would have to say personally it was the movie cake.

Yeah. Yeah, great. Even though that was incredibly hard work. You were fantastic in that movie and so good.

Thank you. So thank you very much. Appreciate it. Deeply. Deeply. That was an experience that was creatively fulfilling because all of my everything I had imagined as an actor, I would be completely afraid of and suck at.

I didn't so bad. Yeah, I'll say.

Any truth to the rumor that the sequel pie is in the works?

That's it. Thank you. By the way, easiest audience. Yeah, those are my favorite shot is the easiest audience on the planet.

I will face time Sean, sometimes twice a day because they'll be like this is a dumb bit is not laughing. Nobody around here.

But you know who's going to laugh because it's a stupid way.

I want to say I want to say because now you've you've experienced and excelled and like nobody's business in all areas of of showbusiness movies and TV and everything else. Not musicals yet. Not musicals. But but you sang amazing on on morning show.

I love that I texted you after I was like, oh my God, that was so great. Thanks.

But would you ever want to do do you ever miss the schedule of a sitcom and would you ever want to everyone again every single day the really it's the best schedule ever on the planet.

So you would do another one if I knew it would be the same experiences I'd had with those guys. Yes. And I doubt that will ever happen.

Yeah, no, it won't happen that way. But I remember when I was doing that, the we were doing the Millers with Jimmy Burrows, but Jimmy Burrows. Yeah.

And like every weekend and we'd be and you'd always be like, oh my God. Like you just wanted to know.

I was so envious. I was so envious. I visited the state a couple of times, came and I said, yeah, who else was on that show.

Well, with you. You. Oh, that's right. You should.

Well, I was going to say you looked so much like the guy who did it was you, of course.

And Margo Martin wasn't Margo on that show? Margo Martindale. I worshipped the three. But how hard did we laugh? How fun is she?

We laughed. I cried laughing. She's a she's a cry.

Make you cry. Laughing Coming out. I did another movie with her actually.

Management was Steve's on another funny, very talented Miss Steve's one very funny guy. Oh.

Can I change gear to an emotional thing. I suppose I want to talk about fear. Oh shit. Oh I love that. Just speaking from was we're all actors here and I'm sure many of our listeners are not if they know what's good for them, but how fear affects you with respect to success. And what was your fear like before you found success and what is your fear like now post success?

Like how have you found I guess I'm couching all this in yourself that your success is gone, is what you're saying, where you're such a generous, happy, warm person and you're an incredible actor, but you can't fake that. So that's coming from a place of security. That's a place of not a ton of fear, or at least it's healthy fear in certain areas. How is that change? Have you always been like that? Because success is a really complicated thing.

Fame is a complicated thing. And somehow you've managed to keep that warm, wonderful, safe, trusting side of you intact when a lot of people with your level of success and fame are not trusting. And actually the fear becomes increased.

But you seem to have kept yourself from well, I think all of us are kind of lucky that we found our success before the Internet and before social media.

And I think there was there was I don't think I ever really had fear.

I don't think I had fear. I mean, I had fear.

I have fear of other irrational things, you know, like as, you know, flying you. Do you hate flying?

Oh, I hate it, Hazmi, because it's too heavy and it doesn't make it.

And yet it gets off the ground. It goes it and then it stays there. I know there's all the things and I've been to. It's irrational, it's control. I love somebody going like I have a fear of flying. Why? Why? You mean why? Because the big piece of metal going in the sky at 500 miles an hour, that's why. Yeah, that's why. Yeah. Yeah.

And I've also had some pretty scary flight experiences. So but anyway. But so those fears I also was the one person remember when we were on an airplane, a plane to a surprise trip for my birthday and we'd lost a wheel. I was the only one not afraid. And everyone else is in tears writing emails, notes to their family.

And I'm sad that surprise you that that you kind of clicked into mother hen there and was strong.

But I what I realized was just how irrational my fear is of flying, because here we are in a moment where there could actually be something going terribly wrong.

And I, I have complete faith in our pilot. I have complete faith in what's happening. So we're scared and I. I'm not done. Sean. Sorry. Sorry.

So I get excited. I know. I can see that. So my girlfriend Dré and I and Christian, we the three of us were like, this is we're we're not afraid.

And all of and Courtney, who is like her dad's a pilot. She's never afraid. Molly, Amanda, Amanda is like, I'm not going down on the plane, my dad.

And so, you know, I so that's irrational.

It was that was that insight into that. But but in terms of the business moves, it takes a lot of work, you know, to maintain everything that you said, because I don't want to ever lose that.

I don't want to stop trusting people.

And I see how it can happen. And I've had reason to I've had all sorts of not great things happen to me where your trust could easily, easily be broken. But, you know, I'm not going to do it, not going to do it. And so there's, you know, therapy. Right.

But you seem to have, like, taken the the the assets in the capital, the success or fame has given you. And instead of, like, buying yachts and whatnot, you've actually taken that is like an opportunity to you know, when somebody approaches you, you get you get their best self. Right. Because when they meet you, they're they're happy. They're in a good mood. They want to talk to you. They're asking questions. And you take that opportunity to actually put people at ease and bring them in and give them a good experience.

Like, I just find that that's a really generous instinct of yours. And I suppose my question somewhere in all of this is, how is this question is how could you do that?

Because he could never do that. Yeah, it seems like you just see it. Have you always been like that or was it something that you made a conscious decision or I'm going to take this capital and I'm going to take this this sort of junk food confidence and actually switch it into something that can benefit my life and my friends and the people that come into my circle because it's yeah, it's a nice food confidence. Another good one. Yeah. Food confidence.

I you know, when I was a little kid and we were at Joe Allen's I don't know if anybody remembers Joe Allen's course.

That's in New York.

In New York City, you know, big after Broadway, after Broadway plays.

And I was there and there was a guy that was on Sesame Street in the restaurant. And I remember walking over to him at seven years old.

I was seven and I walked over to his table and I tugged on his jacket and he literally whipped his head around with fire, anger in his eyes and said, gave gave me no.

What did he say? No, it was not a Muppet, not a puppet. It was a human being.

OK, anyway, he burst into tears. Well, basically, I'm having dinner and I didn't know any better that that's not something that you do when someone's in the middle of dinner.

So and there was a couple of moments.

I also just know that that's something I don't know what these people are.

These people are why we work. Right. So it was just a part of you. You've always been like that. And thank God for all of us. Yeah.

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Actis Martellus. You know what I would say, John? Yes, I would say the other thing that I notice when you tell that story about being on the plane and I also get nervous of flying and do you.

Yeah, I do think I know that about you. Yeah. Yeah.

More and more in the last ten more children you have if you have a couple hundred more children, you definitely. I know but and you know I was talking to a lot of people do and I was talking to Downey yesterday because he's coming back the day after we are and he's got a big fear of flying too. And oh yeah.

Big time, new or like a quiet last few years.

Like, he hates it and he does the same thing I do, which is like there's bumps. And then you're like, why is everybody not paying attention, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody is so calm and anybody so calm, they're like, why are you relax?

Like I'll be watching a movie and then there's bombs and I flip it down and I'm like, I can't watch the movie while I'm like looking around, like, how can you watch that movie in this, you know, whatever.

Anyway, my point was, do you ever feel that you go to the like, look to the pilot or look to the whoever the person is on the plane to see if anybody else is panicking? Because I used to look I used to look to the flight attendants, wanted to always if they're calm and they're normal and they're just like holding on, then I'm fine. Always.

And so but but what I was going to say was your ability in that moment where the wheel falls off and it's like, holy shit, where most people would freak out, whereas before most people in normal turbulence would not freak out. And it's the reverse, right. All of a sudden when there is a real issue, you're not freaking out.

And it really speaks to kind of what you were saying before about fear, your fear of you have a fearlessness in what you do, and that's what makes you so good at what you do.

Because when the moment you're so good at being in the moment all the time and when the moment calls for it and even if it's whatever, you like, you so there's a thing going that you have to deal with it.

There's nothing you can do. You have to be in that moment.

And I think that that really it doesn't surprise me that you weren't scared in that moment.

Right. Because that's what I was going to ask, too, is, don't you when something like that happens, do you click into a different kind of mode? When a crisis happens or something big happens, you're like, OK, I got to take care of it. That sometimes happens to me when, you know, I look like I can't even get myself dressed in the morning.

Yeah, but you do click and I know what you mean. Like she do like remember the fires a couple of years ago and it got really close to your house and you were up on the roof taking those videos. Yeah.

And we were all like, Jesus. And you're like, I know. Look how close it is. I was like, that was actually a scary moment.

I had to get the dogs and I had to get in the car because no one could get up to the house either. Yeah, that was.

But you weren't you weren't flipping out in that moment, even though you did clear out for a few days, you weren't flipping out.

No. Yeah. Well, you've been handling a lot of responsibility for a long time. You're you're there. You're practiced at that. Mm.

I'm my own my you know, it's it's me and me and me and me. Very self-sufficient.

Yeah. Jen, I want to know something. Who do you.

Because you seem to me to be so together and maybe it's meditation, maybe it's just life experience, maybe it's just who you are.

I'm really not a but. But you do. You see, sometimes I'm a hot mess, but you do seem so together and so strong key words seem.

No, no. That I always I'm an ice cold mess.

Like I feel like you're way more enlightened in a sense than I am or most people are because of the work that you've put in.

And so who do you look to? Because I sometimes look to you like John. What do you do for this and how do you think about this?

And we just talk to each other a week ago and write about like advice about this certain issue.

And and so what did she say? Just put cream on it.

I said there's a salve for this. Yeah, but who is that?

Who is that for you? God, you guys got great credit for actually kidding. I find every but every one of my friends has something wonderful to offer.

I'm oh, I mean, you're covered.

I'm so covered. You are. I feel so covered. I mean, JBI, I go to you for certain issues. Topics, you know.

Well, nothing. You go me for like whatever like box office stuff like tracking, tracking any kind of like, you know, tracking ratings, stuff like that. But by the way.

Yes. Yes. No, I know who you go to for that. If there's no my it's like my own walking deadline, you know.

I'm proud of that. Wait a minute. I'm not proud of that. Why really is what you're known for me all your note for I pay attention to what we do for your nickname is junket, by the way.

That's adorable. Which I love. I love the junket.

I don't want any info sneaking up on me.

You know, I can remember you did that. What was that thing you did with the rocks? And we all had to write down like our thing that we loved.

Everybody had to write their thing on the on the rocks about what they wanted or whatever, and then intention.

What's the most important thing in your life? And you know what you wrote Will on your rock. But my boys and you know where that rock is. It's on my dresser. I took that rock and I put it on my dresser. And it's all going to send you a picture when I get back. For real.

You you stole my rock. That's my rock. Those are my rocks. I think you said. Yeah, you guys, you take them with you if you want to sell like that. And I will. I think you just walked away frozen. I, I was so warmed by your Little Rock Willie that I took it for you.

Now I'm not going to make my shot at you. I'm not I'm not going to take a shot of you. Well, if I had to write something that I wanted on Iraq, what would it be?

My whipped cream, cookies, milkshakes, milkshakes, Jennifer, Margaret, Jasmine Aniston. Incredible that you joined us that in.

That's how that could work. And this is we've actually even we talked about anything. You know what? That's what the show is like. We're not we're not interviewers. We're not bright.

And we just have we just have a saying that about yourselves. Don't talk about my friend like that.

Yeah, well, Martellus, we're living up to our title. Yeah. But you have been very, very generous with your time. Yes. Thank you. I love you all dearly.

I love you very much. Love you. And thank you for all of the wonderful compliments. My God, this is, this is the place to be. You need a little booster, little booster shot, a little love bomb from my boys. We got plenty.

We don't do it to everybody. So no, you should hear some of them. We love you dearly.

Love you so much. Love you too. All right. I'll probably see you in about an hour. Yes. Yes. I love you. Love you. Love you. Bye. Okay. Bye bye. Love you. Love.

You know what I like the gin, she added, to which we could start. We should not kiss.

No, we don't need that. We should take kissing. I do think the baby did may have started at her house. I mean we didn't. We took it off of some sort of television show or film because it's been around for a while. But yeah. But yeah, I feel like I've heard that from her before.

One of the great things about this age that we live in, you say that and we'll keep this will be on the show. And then in the comments it'll be like that did not fucking he actually came from like, OK, that started on Saved by the Bell, these sons of bitches.

How dare you appropriate my fucking expression, baby. I'm like, OK, man, I was the first person to put six on by. Yeah, I think I was.

Welcome Back Kotter and one of the sweat hogs that baiI actually it turns out I just looked into it, my uncle used to work on it and I just hear I have to prove and I have the thing on YouTube like fuck off, who cares about your fucking opinion.

Shut up. We don't care. We're saying it. And now it's law and you can shut up again.

Well, that was the police. We're back in the dinner hour here. You can tell. I know.

I already had dinner. Guess what? You're not going to be surprised. I had cake for dessert.

I'm sure you did in celebration of Jen. And I didn't know. Is Jen coming on? I didn't know she was in the movie Cake. Oh, like the movie.

Yeah, I can't look at. It's exhausting explaining things to you.

I can't be your go to guy for everything that I'm going to go celebrate the sequel and have a piece of pie right now.

Yeah. Oh I love it. I love love it keeps Jason.

Thanks for bringing her on because I know you're all friends with her.

She is a light. There's a reason she's Jennifer Aniston and super super famous and lovely because she is real and normal and relatable and accessible and well it's it's a tricky thing that we're all having to deal with, too, right.

Because we're having a lot of our our friends on the show. We want to talk to them. I think some listeners want to hear from them. And but we like for Jen, perfect. I know tons about her, just personally, so like I literally do have to go to the goddamn Wikipedia page to find out what the hell what I ask her that I don't already know. And it's it is an interesting piece of research that that one has to do when you're inviting somebody that you've known forever.

We're dealing with that.

Yeah, but it's also really fun because it can just be a shooting the shit.

Right. Right. Which is what it ended up being. And I don't know if it was worth listening to, but I loved it.

But it is you know, it's shot, like you said, like it's not always the case. But I think that we as we've gotten older, too, you kind of whittle down and you choose to spend the time with the people who are the most genuine. And the three of us spend time with a lot of similar people and no drama.

And Jen is one of those people that she's really close with, you guys, both you guys and with Amanda, very close in four years. And I'm close with her as well.

And it's that idea of like, she's such a genuine person. The person that we talked to here is the same person that you talk to at her house in an hour is the same person who's at the junket three months from now, is the same person who's on set with Adam Sandler in Hawaii. Sure. It's always the same person and it never changes.

Sweet, genuine, nice wish to bring on somebody that we all mutually know that we can't stand. That's a good idea. And I challenge you guys. Just pick somebody that we hate. I got somebody.

You guys. I do. I've got some. We'll know as soon as it's revealed. Soon as they come on. It's a guy and I know it seems I have this person on after you're going to be like, holy fuck. You know what?

This reminds me of jurors that they try to do a remake to they called a dinner for dinner with idiots or Jennifer Shmucks. Yeah, dinner for Schmucks.

But in the fridge, I saw the original French because of course, because France, blah, blah, blah, we're going to see me.

Sorry, I think in French terms, as are, but so did the car, which is like the dinner for four idiots. Right.

Right. So shmucks and that is what this will be is kind of like who can bring a sort of made fun of them the whole time, right?

Yeah.

So who can you have to the the goal of that, you know, was that to bring the most idiotic dinner guest. And so that's going to be this, we're going have to bring the most idiotic.

Are you sure it's not us three already.

We're the it is for sure. The joke's already on us. I think. I think we all got invited. Yeah.

No, but, you know, it's not going to be that it's going to be it's going to be bringing on a person who because there is no time for drama and all that.

And it's somebody who there are a few not a lot, but there are a few people left who are just dicks and they're just assholes.

Well, you know, my my theory is and I share this last time, whatever job you go on, because there's always an asshole. And every job, if you look around and you can't find one, it's probably you. And that's our episode, everybody, we're going on a high note on our theme, that's actually that is that is an interesting point.

All right. Well, she was great. We love you. What a great guest.

A little like like just sunshine walking. Oh, that's right. It really is. All right. All right.

Love you. Bye. He is smart. Smart las.