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Hey, gang, welcome to Smart Lists, we are a sweet new podcast starring myself, Sean Hayes, Jason Bateman and Will Arnett, and we are complete idiots. So what we do is we bring on a guest and we ask them stuff and they make us smarter. Hopefully it's super cool. So please come with us. Enjoy the show, Sgt..

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Now, listen, I need to say this before we get too deep into this.

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I am about to have a covid test because it's 20/20 and I get him done like once a week or every 10 days.

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We have to watch the kids every day and mine just happens to coincide with us doing so.

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At some point during the podcast, I'm going to have somebody come in and she's going to come in and give me.

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That's not true. Yeah. Why why does it have to be during our time? And what is covid? Oh, bless him.

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And why does she have to do it during our time? Because it was bad scheduling bensedrine but a lot of things conspiring kids tomorrow afternoon. I'm busy.

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Oh that's always boring with you. Why are you guys golfing?

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No, no, no. We have a business meeting. We're going to charity Identica.

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I guess I'm busy too. Feeding kids. Is he making Smilde charity meeting?

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I thought you were going to say after your covid test you were going to have like a like a reveal party of the results. Oh, yeah.

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You know, people get mad because I keep doing on the subway I used to do genda reveals all the time I'd wear a trenchcoat and I just go, hey, you know, I just revealed my gender to people stupid. I know it's so dumb.

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And people got married for my gender reveals on the subway. Well, next time you you have the results, I hear a female laughing.

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So your guest already, I can tell, is a female or a fellow who is happy might sound careful like a female.

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Yeah, it might sound like a female.

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Good for you. Yes, good for you. That's a straight look at look how much you've grown.

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Oh, wait. So let me guess. I know it's a woman. It is. It's a really I don't know if you can tell by your laugh, because mostly people are laughing at what she's doing. OK, as a Phyllis Diller. So she's a comedian.

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She's a comedian. Well, I mean, she's a lot of things. Stand up or actor. Let me. You ready for this, huh? All of the above. Oh, gosh. She started as a standup, then got into acting, then did sketch, then did SNL, then did her own show, won two Emmys is a hilarious, just all around hilarious person. She's got a brand new podcast and it is killing it with stellar ladies and gents, Sean and Jason.

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Oh, Sarah Silverman is on the show today on Sirius.

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Look at that. Right. Good. Why are you worried? Because you're smoking the skinniest cigarette I've ever seen.

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It's a toothpick. Oh yeah, she's tough today.

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Oh, I'm so excited you're here. I know. How great is this? So cool. So look at this. Can you believe it's going well? I know guys going.

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We're all such fans of yours. You're such a superb comedy. Hilarious person. Here she is.

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Well, what's your first question since you've had time to work on good questions? It's your guest. Yeah. Let's have your best one right now.

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OK, Sarah. Yeah. How's it going? Oh, that's good.

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You know, listen, gender reveal on the subway is the funniest joke, by the way. So dumb, right? It's so dumb. That's a great joke.

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Oh, I got to tell that for like four days when you said it, you know, when you hear something and you can't wait to tell a friend, you know, it wasn't quite that, but it was like that. Yeah.

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And I tell you something. So so I'm going to tell you this are one of my favorite jokes that I have told many times over and over or I've read told the scene, which is people's least favorite thing to hear. And you're like, hey, you remember the scene where I was from the your old program. So I'm going to start in the middle from the Sarah Silverman program where you did on Comedy Central.

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Such a funny show. It's so good.

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And you did this bit, by the way, I don't know if you could do it today. It was the episode where you wanted some good news.

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So you decided to get an AIDS test, right? Yeah. And first of all, there are like 80 jokes crammed in this tiny scene. And you go she goes, have you ever had unprotected sex? And you said, is there any other way? Then she said in the 80s and you said, no. Yeah.

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She goes, Did you ever have unprotected sex in the 80s? And I go, Oh, my God, yes. And she goes, You did.

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You had unprotected sex in the 80s. And I go, Oh, no, I thought you said in Haiti.

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Yeah. So then so then she says, tell me how many times. And so you take a piece of paper and you start writing and you hand it to her and she goes, What's that? You go, that's the number. And she goes, there are two numbers. And you said, Yeah, for the front and back because they're the same number. And you said, yeah, I'm kind of OCD like that. He was like a domino effect of jokes.

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It just like started and it was just nonstop. Fuck me, man. I've told that that's such a funny bit and it's such a you're just everything about that scene was again, I don't know. I think people might be offended today. I don't know.

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There are a lot of problematic things looking back. But, you know, such as comedy, it's not evergreen.

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Right. So so that's my thing is like you've always been such a I don't know, such a fucking stupid word, edgy, but, you know, cutting it like.

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Thank you. Thank you for getting their hands on her hands.

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Perhaps that what is it. It's always about the messenger of the joke. It's never really about this. So you can say, like on the Sarah Silverman program, you could do a joke about AIDS like that. And people embrace it and laugh because it's you saying it. So why do you think is the difference between you saying it and somebody else doing it and not getting away with it? Seems like you get away with a lot of stuff because you're so fucking funny.

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But it's some of it's pretty dark.

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I think it's the intention behind it. Like, yeah, this is a math term, but it's kind of like the absolute power of the joke. Like especially back then. I always said the opposite of what I thought, you know, and that was the joke kind of. And then hopefully the truth transcends that. I don't really feel this way not to break it down in the least funny possible way. But it is also interesting, too, because like that comedy I did, you're right, it it was like, oh, it's OK, because, you know, I don't mean it.

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But then it also is kind of like we are liberal, so we can say anything, so we can say, you know, the words that are unsayable or whatever, like, you know, I don't mean it. So I could say it like there is kind of like a liberal like douchiness about it. I think in retrospect, I mean, I don't know. It's a weird balance.

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I think you're right. I was thinking about that the other day, which is like what's been gone is things have gotten so serious because everybody who's not liberal is so serious and so dark and so real about their negativity or hate or racism or whatever it is that it's taken all of that away. You're like, well, I don't even want to joke about anything.

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A lot of things that are rough or maybe pushing boundaries because you feel like I don't want it to be taken the wrong way because there are so many people who mean it. Right?

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Yeah, there's not enough distance. You know, it's like so close. Like people go, oh, it's so funny. I saw like a comment in Spanish of something that I wrote and I go, oh, you know, I have a fan that's Spanish. You just then I press translate and it was just why don't you stick to comedy and, you know, leave politics out of it.

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I was like, oh, so wait, I'm sure you've had your share of criticism. Like we all have, like. Positive or negative? But is there someone in your life that mattered to you who said that you may have taken certain materials too far or something like that, which of your friends have you offended?

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Sarah and lost forever? I've actually kind of made friends that started out as like them calling me out. Right. Interesting. You know, I would guess and please correct me, but I would guess that one of the things that appeals to you about about comedy, about thinking of funny stuff and crafting it into something, you know, in order to deliver to an audience is about identifying that which makes some of us uncomfortable as opposed to some people. Look, it seems to me look at other things and that makes them excited about comedy with you.

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It seems like there you have an affinity for, as do I, trying to identify the thing that all kind of makes us a little bit uneasy because it's it only exists in our smallest place. And you want to kind of bring that out and amplify that and share a common sort of reference point.

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So are you finding that you're frustrated that outside sources seem to be narrowing those borders and those walls and and now you have to kind of think twice and three times about that or do not listen to that.

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I think, like what you said, edgy or you know, I know it's corny, right. Ever, but it's like you can't have it both ways. Like if you do something that is risky, you have to be risking something like there are consequences that you can't get mad, that there are consequences. And I don't mind. I like like when young people, you know, like students or whatever, like they teach me new language, I'm into that because I feel like they're always on the right side of history.

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And I want to, like, learn new words and pronouns, even though I fuck up on the fire, by the way, is a new one for something that's good.

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OK, that's not that. No, I know it's brand new. It started yesterday.

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That's not new.

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Granted, I had a guy tell me I had a guy tell me on Twitter what made me think about, you know, there's an ad that came out for Biden with Sam Elliott during the voice for it.

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I don't know if you heard it. And so I just I retweeted I said the the video master. Right, because he's just like the voiceover idol of mine, like he's so good. All I said was Villamizar, this guy responded, stick to comedy. And I think it is a good thing. Do you do voiceover as well? Who's asking? You have to be one thing, you have to be the one thing I know us, right?

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Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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You are a monolith and it was within my and I'm I can't even comment on voiceover like, wait a second.

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Also, like, whoever's saying that, what do they do for a job? Are they a critic? I hope that they are only a critic.

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I hope so too, you know. So speaking of sticking to what you do, you started you started doing standup when you were young, right?

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Like like 17, 17.

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That always blows my mind when standup started out. How did you scare encourage the, you know, the encourage at 17, don't you?

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I did. I was a bedwetter until I was almost 16. So by the time that I did standup. But, you know, nothing is humiliating in nothing competes with that kind of humor.

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But how did you know how to write at that young age? Like, how did you know how to craft and construct a joke? I mean, it wasn't good. You know, I just didn't it wasn't a good comedian I like to like jokes about.

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You know, I went to a high school, actually, that was really they'd have an assembly on Mondays and Fridays and they'd let me do like a couple minutes. No way. And I had a math teacher that would let me, like, tell a joke at the beginning of every class as long as I set up the rest of it.

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Oh, wow. That it was nice. It was like it's really encouraging.

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I studied piano and I where everybody passes out. I studied piano and classical music when I was much younger.

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And I remember in high school, my dentist told me that he and his wife were throwing a Christmas party. And I would would I come over and play background music at the party on the piano? And I'm like, yeah, totally. Wow.

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And serve drinks. Yes. And wear this outfit. And can you park cars or do you mind wearing a mask?

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The point is, when I was done, he handed me one hundred dollars and I was blown away that I got paid for a talent, that I got something in exchange.

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And over the years I, you know, put into honing this craft.

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Do you remember the first time you got paid as a stand up and like what that was like?

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Did you report it and you remember how old you were? When I was 19, I did a road gig at a club called Joker's Wild and what's the town that has Yale in it? But it's like Yale. It's gross.

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OK, sorry. I mean, wonderful. So it was like this low rung mob run place called Joker's Wild.

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I was the emcee for six shows. I got altogether a hundred dollars less than Sean got for them.

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And they harassed me the whole time and kept asking me to do cocaine and I had to find my own place to stay. And I stayed with these elderly cousins of friends of my moms that were both def.

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It was like a rough week, it was really on and you're all just out, oh, you're all jets. No, I didn't I did not do OK, but yeah. And the headliner that week, I won't say, is probably well known, but he ended up kind of losing everything he was like at that point. He was married. He just had a kid and he was such a nice guy, mostly impressions. But then I heard a friend of mine was in N.A. with him and he did a brilliant thing.

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You know, comics are so dark, they're very close to criminals, you know? Yeah, but he he would go to open houses and use the bathroom and steal all their drugs, you know, all their medications and stuff.

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My next question is, what's the perfect balance for you from comedy, like, what do you like to do that balances you out on any particular day or week or month hobbies or.

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I'm so boring. I love nothing. Television, television, watching television. Ozark. Oh, my God. We go. I got it all. Great interview, guys.

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But she hasn't said it's good yet. Let her finish what I was asked for.

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So it's such a solid B of a show. No, it's a God. I just. I thought so.

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Anyway, you don't need to, but I just I'm a big fan of all of you.

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Like, most likely individually I could go off. But I just want to say your in your you know, all of your brilliant actors, brilliant performers, but your directing is like it's really beautiful.

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And I said season three was phenomenal.

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I'm on. And that's all you get. That's a lot. Thank you. I will take it.

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That'll get you to sleep tonight.

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And will your your those resus commercial pieces is the original. Sorry, not sorry. Unbelievable. Sorry. So you like watching drama stuff or do you watch it. Or what about like reality shows. Like what about bachelor. Do you have like a guilty pleasure.

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Like I am watching The Bachelor with my lover. Yeah. Yeah. And we have a lot of fun.

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My wife loves that. It's just fun. It's so dumb. Yeah. But it's so fun. It's just big. Laughs All throughout. Yeah. But besides that, I like dramas. Yeah.

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Do you want to act in one of those or do you just want to watch them.

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Yeah, I would like to act in one of those but I love watching them. I think it's like watching comedy can be when it happens. I'm like I enjoy it but it's never my go to because it's just kind of a little more stressful than.

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Right.

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You know, watching a thriller, I would say it's like, you know, doctors don't run home and watch Grey's Anatomy, right?

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Yeah. It's like you've never said that, John. That's a fucking lie. You've never said that.

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Sean always says that. He does. Yeah, but a thriller. Yeah.

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I'd love to be in a like a or like a tactical. Is that right? Like a boring, boring movie or like.

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Oh yeah.

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You know, when I started recording because they've been playing them, I'm is an old Columbo's from the 70s and they're so good.

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Oh they're like watching a 70s movie like they're on film.

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And Peter Falck. Right.

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Peter Falk in the episode we watched was Ruth Gordon in a rare role as a rich lady. I love her.

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She's my favorite. Harold and Maude. Yes, of course. And my favorite movie is Where's Pop?

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Every which way but loose, huh? Every which way. But Loose with Clint Eastwood.

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Wish you guys any which way you can. Sure. And it was rigged with one of my favorite lines.

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I remember when when the orangutang is on the thing and she goes, what are you doing, eating all the Yorio scrap and all over the place.

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That's my one of my favorite lines. She always leads with her thumb. Yeah. Let me ask you this.

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So, sir, I want to go back to when you started doing do you remember how you guys high? So I'm just happy to see your faces. Sorry. Go on. No, no, no. Let it. All this will make it clean, though.

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We don't have to. I'm only asking questions because Sean gets really mad if we don't stick to asking questions. But he doesn't like conversation. He doesn't like conversation. And then he feels like the people in the middle of the country in Wisconsin are mad if we're not getting information out of our guests. So our guest today is Sarah Silverman. Just to remind everybody, Sean, happy now.

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And Sarah, I just wanted I was thinking about you being seventeen, being on stage, and you're trying to write jokes, and you were joking that like they weren't any good. But can you remember, like, your first joke that you thought was funny that maybe still is? Yeah.

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Yeah. My friend Eric Noize said, does my breath smell like tacos? And I said, I don't know. Do you put shit in your tacos?

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That was in high school. But I found an old notebook like I save all my notebooks. I found a notebook from when I was like nineteen.

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And there were jokes in there that were so bad, like and reading it written, you know, because I'm in a lot of my jokes early on were like, I don't know, I'm just well. And so it was like, I don't know what my goldfish died. I put it in a tank.

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Dot, dot, dot the top and tank top. Yeah, sure.

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Do you have a set time each day that you dedicate to. All right. I'm going to stare at the wall. I'm going to think of stuff I can write down for possible performance or script or whatever it is. Or do you just kind of just let stuff happen to you and you always have a little thing in your pocket and you could be at a red light and think of something.

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You write it down mostly the latter. Yeah. When I'm my best self, I do. Sometimes I'm just sitting in a chair and it really is like I remember someone calling me and I was just sitting in a chair in my room and they're like, What are you doing?

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And I'm like, working. And I know I was being defensive, but I do feel like a lot of it is just sitting, you know, stillness, if you can.

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I thought about the title of your memoir if you haven't got one already. And I want you to consider, OK, goldfish in a tank top.

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That does sound like a comedian.

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Doesn't it sound like a comedian? That would be great. You have to put the ellipses in between tank and top goldfish in a tank.

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Dot, dot, dot, dot, return page, flip over top and then in parentheses, get it right upside down. Hello. Well. Jake. Jake. Jake.

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Jake. Jake.

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As far as the eye can see, I have to ask the cliche question to another funny person like what do you like favorite food? What the fuck happened to you as a kid that made you funny?

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Well, I mean, I think I was extremely hirsute. You know, I was growing up in New Hampshire, really. I didn't know Jews. I didn't you know, I didn't go to, like a lot of people go all the bar mitzvah season and all that stuff.

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I didn't have any of that. Like, my parents are atheists.

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They call themselves agnostic to be more polite or Jewish, to be even more polite.

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But like there weren't Jews. So we like my sister says, we thought being Jewish just meant being a Democrat because that's how we were different in New Hampshire, you know?

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But I think because of that, I was like I was really hairy, too. And yeah, like my dad goes, you know, you want your dad to just think you're so beautiful. And he does.

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But because, like in high school, he goes, if you want to spend a summer getting electrolysis, I'll pay for it.

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And I was like, why would I do that? Oh, no, never mind. Oh, you really just meant it to be nice. But then I think he was horrified because I was like, why would I do that?

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I knew we should be acknowledging this, by the way. I mean. Well, you know, you don't need to do the brain scratcher anymore.

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Why? Yeah, I want to be thorough that they stick a thing up your nose for the.

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Yeah, the shallow ones are thorough and so is a saliva one now. I mean, if it doesn't, dude, if it doesn't hurt, if there's no pain, then it's not fucking valuable. Had you not learned that lesson in father. My dad said my dad was right when he said, God, you're stupid. What the fuck is wrong with him? You'll be nothing if you're not listening to your guy right in between the time that he never told me you loved me.

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No, it's interesting about that.

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So you know how that, like, makes people go into show business. Like my mom only she just read People magazine and she didn't look up from it. She didn't come to my games. She didn't, you know. So it's like I think a part of me wanted to get into People magazine. You mean like. Right, right.

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And I think all of us have. I'm sure that.

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Yes, sir. You mentioned that your parents didn't go to your game.

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My dad did. What game? What sport did you play?

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Every sport I was you know, listen, I'm not bragging. I was a fast pitch pitcher for the state of New Hampshire.

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Know what kind of softball and not to minimize it. And, you know, and I played soccer and I played basketball. I still play basketball, although I haven't since covid. And now I'm like, do I still play basketball? Because, like, my bones are so rickety now.

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But when you do play, it's you're not going down to like the local park and doing a pickup game. You have an organized game, but a bunch of your friends get together.

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I have gone to pick up games and I do play pickup games. But the two games I've been playing out here for the past couple of years, I, I don't know anyone there outside of that game.

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Like, I don't know what's the difference between a pickup game and a game. It's all strangers.

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Yeah. You just show up and you say, hey, I want to play. All right, well, maybe I'll sign up for one. Yeah. But the last time I played outside, I played with this guy, we smoked pot together, you know, he was adorable, whatever. Thank you.

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And then we were all playing. And then at the end of the game, we finish. And that guy had left a little early. He had taken like five different people's car keys. No way.

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And then pressed them to see what went on and then got in one and stole one of the guy's cars. Wow.

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This is this is the cute stoner who's all he's all stoned up his all weed it up.

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Yeah, well, I like to smoke pot when I play basketball because I become incredible or terrible, but it's a grab bag. I'm willing to.

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Oh, hang on. Hang on. We'd love to get you to repeat that for a PSA, if we could. Real quick, just.

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Hi, I'm Sarah Silverman. You know, when I play basketball, I feel marijuana enhances my game or puts me into a ball.

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But either way, it's worth the risk.

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But you also like to smoke pot when you're not playing basketball. I like to have a puff at night and that's not sure.

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A little night night. Puff, puff. Now, do you follow professional basketball? Are you a Laker fan?

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You know, I like watching it. I mostly like watching like a close game in the last half last quarter.

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I'm not I don't have, like, a team that I'm obsessed with or so it's tough to watch the first three quarters like any underdogs.

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I mean, but then again, I also like the Warriors just because I love Steve Kerr.

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And yeah, you know, he's cool and I like the Lakers. I like the Celtics, but only just because of various reasons.

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So, Sara, your your resume is so crazy because not only were incredible stand up, but you've been part of some just great memorable shows. You know, SNL iconic shows, I should say, SNL, Mr. Show. Larry Sanders.

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I mean, it's incredible that you got to be part of all these things that for somebody like me were shows that really, really kind of thing.

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Right. I'm trying to put together.

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Give me a second. I'm trying to find Jesus. You just broke it.

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No, I'll never know. I'll never get there. But but these are shows that like, you know, a Mr. Show and Larry Sanders, they showed me I was like, oh, wait, I want to do that kind of shit.

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Yeah, they're like comedy gold. Oh, my God. Yeah, like the. Yeah. Set the standard.

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I mean, I got to be on all of those are iconic shows that I had nothing, you know, I was like Zelig, I just got very lucky and ended up in not true.

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I'm not being modest. I just you know, I didn't I had nothing to do with creating the, you know, I mean, but yeah, it is it's I've been in a lot of like very Kielty.

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Yeah. Yeah. Star Trek. Voyager. I know.

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I love that. What was your time like at SNL and.

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And do you watch it now. Yeah, I watch it, I watch it, and I'm a fan of it, the power's out in post. No, no, no, no.

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I mean, I had the year that I was there, I would never want to take back. It was like hard and it was long and it was frustrating.

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And, you know, but I got along with everybody, you know, and and stuff. It was really a different time, you know? I mean, it was I mean, they didn't have computers. Like, we wrote our sketches on legal pads and gave it to a room of typists right now.

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Well, how did you like living in New York? I love New York. Yeah, I moved there when I was 18. I love New York. I love just walking through the street.

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I'd love to live there too. But I mean, the last time I had an apartment there, it was four hundred and fifty dollars. You know, I lived on a five floor walkup where I, you know, we there was a guy who lived on our floor. We had our own bathroom. But it was a building that had a lot of like padlocked bathrooms in the hallway that the apartments shared.

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Sarah, who do you find absolutely hilarious, like either growing up or now, like who you are, just like, oh my God, I can't get enough of blank because they're so funny. So many people I know, if I start have you seen Kate Berlant? She's incredible. I love Tig Notaro. I love takes great Zach Galifianakis. I love Kyle Dunnigan. This guy, Kyle doesn't get easier. He just, you know, are people that just make you.

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Yeah.

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You know, or like, oh, it's like that for me that kills me. He's so funny.

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And then he's just got this huge heart too. And, you know, he's just like a good, solid, lovely person.

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And he's so funny, you know, I like what about back in the day, somebody who made you laugh that. Well, I guess you can't really say who made you laugh back then, but based on how your sense of humor has changed now, kind of doesn't. I mean, there's certainly television shows and movies that I thought were funny back then that I would watch today and go, oh, no, that doesn't hold up. Or my sense of humor has changed.

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Yeah, I mean, I've gone so many directions, like my friend Mark Cohen. Years ago when I first started, he put a nickel on his head and say Jewish Ash Wednesday.

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And I cried because I was so sensitive. And then I went like one hundred and eighty degrees, you know, but I'm the same inside, you know. But, like, I was so upset by that, you know.

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Oh, really? Yeah. An example of how people change. People's tastes change. And you kind of have to find yourself trying not to factor that in when you're thinking of stuff that might be best suited for something that needs to appeal to a wide audience, because the people who are financing this don't want it to appeal to a narrow audience. Do you have to?

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I mean, that's why I think I, I, I just I, I prefer to be nesh right. You know what I mean. Like, yeah. Yeah. You know, it's there's a lot of rules in the mainstream.

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That's why I'm doing this podcast now. Yeah. And called the Sarah Silverman podcast. And the one cool thing about it is like even if you're on cable or streaming or something, I mean you can really say anything.

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I think I said fuck way too many times in the first few episodes because I felt so free.

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And you have to have the kind of get those same lessons that you have when you do standup where it's like now it's just gratuitous. It's lost any power. It isn't cool. You're using it as a crutch. But I had to kind of learn it over again because I was suddenly so excited to get to say anything I wanted that I was like fucking this and fucking that. I listen back and I was just like, oh, yeah, yeah.

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When I was like, you did such a great job of doing you do it when you were like on a panel, like on a guest on a talk show or whatever, you found ways to.

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I think a lot of people you were for a long time considered kind of like dirty or you would do you address jokes up. You never knew what you Trojan horse like. You'd come in, you dressed up and be kind of super bright about it. And then the punchline would be really dark. And you found a way to constantly kind of go back to Sean. I feel like I sound like an old man, like you were edgy, but you found ways to push the boundary and you didn't necessarily swear, but you did not shy away from making jokes that were hit really hard.

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I never felt dirty like everyone, like she's a potty mouth and she's dirty. And I guess I am. But like, I never feel that way because I was raised in a house where you used just the words weren't taboo, you know.

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So it's like, I swear a lot, really.

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It's not like I use technical language or explicit maybe, you know.

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Right. You didn't say you didn't say fuck a lot. You didn't do that at all. Like you found a way to bring people to a punch line that was potentially really they hadn't heard it before and it was kind of dangerous. And you were kind of pushing the boundaries. Can I can I ask you this?

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So are there any kind of Jason asked you if you want to do like a drama or anything like that, but are there any, like, comedy people for real? Is that you would want to work with or comedy directors that you think like?

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Oh, I you know, I haven't done a lot of comedy. Well, this is the thing is the things I've been in in comedy, like in movies, it's like this has changed a lot. But since, you know, it's the. Angry girlfriend or the angry roommate or the sleazebag executive or but it's like so I go after a while, I go I just don't want to be in comedy because the access I have to comedies is I can't be a comedian in a comedy playing a straight role.

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It doesn't it's stupid of me. It doesn't. I don't make money from doing movies. I lose money making movies. Of course you get the least amount of money.

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I can't be on the road, you know. So that's why it's like dramas or something where I'm in like someone else's domain is just makes sense. I just want to play the if I'm in a comedy, I want to be funny and that. Right. And otherwise, you know, I just want to do interesting things. You know, I like acting, but I like doing everything.

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Sarah, I don't even know where to go. I mean, we could talk to you all day. It's so fun having you here and talking for so long. I can't even tell you. I'm so sorry.

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We're taking a lot of you. It's very generous. I am so happy to be just seeing you and talking to. Likewise. We'll wrap it up with someone.

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We're going to wrap it up, but we're going to say you're an absolute delight. You're a you're a comic titan. I'm going to say that I find you to be so fucking consistently hilarious. You've made me laugh so many millions of times. So thank you. Royalty. Yeah, royalty.

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Doesn't it make you feel old? I remember when Joan when you'd go, oh, Joan, you're a legend. She'd be like, fuck you.

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I'm still vital you don't like it makes you feel done. Yeah I.

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Next thing I do, you know, like your agent will go Oh but we got with her and for the credits and you go yeah. Who cares why you said a thing I want and introducing.

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That's really sure I want them to fight for that.

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I think I keep going to die. I'm asking my my I'm like I want to fight for in advance, fight for my position in the In Memoriam segment on like the Emmys and stuff on and get ready working on my show.

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I want to get the final. Yeah. Final word. Yeah. Fok and I want to bring down the fucking you know the song. Well do you know the song you want play five dollar footlong dial up. Dial up. I love that.

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We love you Sarah. Thank you Sarah by Sarah. Thank you. Bye. Sarah Silverman.

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But thanks so much. So funny always, you know, there's that gross word again, but always edgy, dark, like she's the kind of comedy you choose when you really want to.

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It's like truth comedy, you know? Yeah, I always thought of it. And she's one of the cool kids, like, she was just so funny and such a great real like where you're like, shit, man.

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I just don't want to fuck up around her. Yeah. She's so funny, you know, that's all. I don't want to be unfunny at any I don't want to be a fucking loser.

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You guys are so stupid to even think that, that I just don't even get out of my car. I'd love to go see her do standup. I don't think I've ever I saw her do a standup at the Improv and Melrose and her opening joke was about rape.

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Mhm. Yeah. To sort of drop the flag and say here it comes. Yeah.

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So yeah you have to be a fan and, and be open minded. But I am and I'm a huge huge well I think you know and she made such a great point.

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You, she's made a lot of jokes that has taken people back over the years or whatever. But she's right, it's all about intention and her intention is good.

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She's a good person and she's going in the right direction.

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And she wants I think that that sometimes she has to make jokes like that to kind of shed light on the other side.

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And that's her style. Yeah. And I love it. I respect it. And she's got a new podcast, the Sarah Silverman podcast.

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And it is great. Of course, I've heard it. It's fantastic. Yeah, it's super good.

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And she's a stone-Cold bad guy. She's she's don't go back. She's back to the stone cold. And, you know, we see this guy. We can say that. The third thing is maybe.

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Eli. Smart bombs.