Hello, everybody, welcome to Episode 299 of Spin Triplets, presented by Pink Whitney from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka here in the barstool sports podcast, Family Well Boys.

More than a year after the original training camp started, almost two months of isolated playoff bubbles, 96 episodes later, the twenty nineteen, twenty twenty NHL season has come to its conclusion and the Tampa Bay Light on the Stanley Cup champions for the first time since 2004 after beating the Dallas stars to nothing in Game six Monday night, they absolutely suffocated Dallas. We'll get to that shortly. Let's just say hi to boys real quick out routine. Mickey Ginelli. How you doing, buddy?

I'm doing great.

Episode two ninety nine. Closing in on three hundred here, boys. That's a milestone. Don't expect to watch the clock.

And I thought yeah just it's just around. No what's up is how are we doing buddy. Doing great. 96 episodes during the course of this entire season. That is fucking crazy. It's been a wild ride. We appreciate you guys for joining us on it. Yeah. Nothing really much new. And in Scottsdale here other than the fact it's still one hundred and five degrees outside and it's about to be October. So global warming is a thing, I think.

Yeah, I'm in fucking Arizona in September two. It's going to be hot then. Last but not least, a wet dog or Ryan Whitney. What's up guy.

Not much, I believe. I said Tampa Bay was going to win the Stanley Cup six years ago when the season started.

I said that. I then said in the series they were going to win and SEC. So just a dominating, amazing effort by a team for the ages. So we'll go into that. But I mean, I can't believe this season's over. It really is bizarre. So what was the first what was our first episode of this season? Like the previews.

It was September. Twenty third, twenty nineteen. The first subdivision we did was the Central Division with Roman Yossi. And the season ended September 29.

So it was a year and six days of all Charcot's bump for Roman Yossi motherfucking nauseousness. That's the most delayed chick let's bump of all time, is it not?

Seriously, man, that's fucking hilarious. I think that well, like I said, man, Dallas, they just get suffocated the other night.

I mean, they played with the heart of champions, but I think they were just losing too many key players. But full credit to Tampa absolutely suffocated them. They hadn't got the courts. Might not a surprise there, but it wouldn't have been surprised if it went the point or coach with the numbers those guys put up with dog. Let's go to you first for your take on the game series.

Whatever. Yeah, the game was just domination. It just felt like Dallas never stood a chance. And let me say one thing. I want to talk about Dallas, like just first, you know, to give them the respect that they deserve. But that game, it made it, I think the final final tally for Wesolowski. I have it.

Yeah, he was six and all going into the game following a loss during the playoffs. He made it seven and no hobbit bones, the only on the goalie in NHL history to have gone seven and all after a loss in a single postseason, ironically enough, the last time when the lightning won the cup. So just an amazing performance by this guy. And that game was the perfect description of how dominant he was. He played every single second for every player, you know, every single game for the lightning in this run.

So you could talk about the two system, but he's a he's a beast now.

Dallas, what an effort. I tweeted out like I just felt sick to my stomach, having been there and lost in game six of the cup final. Like I said before, when I was totally wrong about calling it the Corona Cup and that it was bullshit, it was probably a hundred times worse for them than it was for us, because it was your lifelong dream that you're right there, you're so close and all of a sudden it's gone. And like the whole ride and everything was was kind of for nothing like it wasn't.

But it was because the ultimate goal didn't get achieved. And these guys have gone through so much more than when I was in Pittsburgh. We're traveling to Detroit. You're on the road. You're playing in front of fans like this was so difficult. And what they did in their effort was just so outstanding. Like, I commend all those guys. And I'll tell you right now, like, I remember that room and pit when Detroit won, when fucking R.A. was like sneakin and Chelios his underwear.

Every guy in the room was in tears. You know, whether the weather guys just like openly or is, you know, getting changed somewhere else. It was heartbreaking. And then you see Jamie Benn speech. And I think that was the most open you could ever, you know, the pain that you feel somebody having after losing the Stanley Cup. I don't remember an interview like that where he really couldn't even get out words. And I understand the reporters, they just ask another question, but it's not like he's not he wants to answer your question.

He just can't because it's his family. And what they did just they didn't get it done is as amazing as the run it was. So shout out to that team and shout out to like what they did and and Rick, bonus. What a career. And to do that, after being in a coach in the NHL that long, just an amazing series. Amazing run for them. They gave it their all but. Tampa Bay, holy shit, and just more, more, more on Dallas, too, and, you know, Segan, who I thought had a great final, especially as it progressed, you find out the laundry list of injuries that he had going through this to the point where right now they're trying to decide on which one they need to prioritize to potentially get surgery on.

Like this is what you list those out or I actually think R.A. has it written down.

Yeah, I got it right here. I had said, you know, he took some criticism during the playoffs for his lack of production. And, you know, you hate to criticize guys in the third round, at least I do.

And this is a good reason why David Pignata from the fourth period saga was playing with wrist, hip, groin and knee injuries. He's going to get checked. Like you said, there's going to see what the priority is for surgery. And you got to think I know a lot of Bruins guy here, whatever. But watching Mike Recchi do what he did back in 2011 plan either right after the kidney stones deal with them and then on in 13, you got to think like he had to go back to that to get himself out there a little bit now.

And yeah. And this guy in games four and five, I think he had five points total, three assists in the one game. So he gave it, as all you mentioned, the Ben interview. And and you're going back to your tweet, too, like just being absolutely gutted for these guys, given the circumstances. But some bright spots on that team, some of the young guys who were hurt and obviously not in the lineup affected them, but between Haisten and Klingberg and not having bishop was was obviously difficult.

That would have been nice to see at least their number one. But given given that circumstance through, Donovan was able to make a name for ourselves to just run it. I imagine he gets a nice fat contract out of this. So. So I'm sorry I missed you guys. I was I was pretty bad. These playoffs literally every horrible. I don't know if you guys saw the Meems post going through that Stargate. That was pretty good. It was.

How would you describe that?

You just disappearing into the black hole of non-existence because you can't pick one fucking playoff series where you just you you're out of the podcast and media world forever. That was the meme of you just withering away, withering away.

So but going to towards Tampa Bay, where you talked about Vasilescu and what he did in those games after following a loss. And I know we've been harping about this to goalie system. I guess he's proved our theory wrong by taking the reins. The last time a goalie did that was Corey Crawford. And that was when Chicago won the cup. And I believe 2015, our thirteen.

It was 213 Mycologists Thomaston eleven. Not a big deal. And and you mentioned that dominant performance.

I have never seen a team fourchette like that. Everyone talks about their puck possession in their zone entries and how high skilled they are, that teamwork, their balls off, and especially for the first two periods in that game, six every time they dumped it and it seemed like they went back and retrieved it and nothing was going to deny the Tampa Bay lightning of winning that Stanley Cup after getting embarrassed last year in the first round.

Yeah, and then they they the the buzzer sounds and, you know, Stamkos is getting in his gear to come out and raise the cup. And I was watching with Keith Yende and Billy Rainey scope for the Panthers, our buddy. And I was just saying. It would be amazing if he's raising the Stanley Cup, but just that one goal in that two and a half minutes, he played it so good for his mind. Every fan like, do you know what I mean?

Like, it was it would have been an awesome thing for him. But not having played, it's just totally different.

You wouldn't have felt like you are a part of it. You just wouldn't. He wouldn't. And I'm speaking for him. Right. Like I'm not. But he wouldn't have been the same. But normally you get in, barely play a game, score a huge goal in a win in the cup final. That's all that had to happen for you to because you you've done this. You've been so good for so long. And him raising the cup was so well deserved.

And just the fact that that goal happened, it made it so special and right away and as I had been concerned, I have no doubt I actually was like, I don't know, point Wesolowski, which was I guess it ended up being an easier decision than I thought at least. But you could argue for all three of them. And then seeing the cup passed around, I started thinking right away that there's a couple of years ago, you know, I don't exactly remember when, but veterans started getting pushed.

All right. You're going to get a younger guy, you're going to get him cheaper. And the game started changing. It became faster. It became a really tough for like middle class guys. The salaries they're taking. Hey, you're either making a ton of money or you're down. You're not making a lot of NHL standards. Right. So as the league changes and everyone gets younger and faster. You look at both the teams in Tampa, especially talk about a veteran presence, because you get you get Schenn there, you get Chaton Cook there, you get these older guys that are on small deals, some of them league minable.

You get Patman and and look at what happened. So, yeah, it's a young man's game. But on the other side, Dallas had Perry making less. You know, he's older. So you can argue for getting younger and getting faster. But I think this series in Tampa proves you still need veterans in your lineup. And there's certain guys you can't pay five, six million to for what they do anymore. But when you're able to get guys that are maybe getting bought out and signed for signing for less and older guys that are willing to take less, that still makes such a difference in the run for the Stanley Cup.

I couldn't agree more. And Bruce Bueno Iceman's is getting a lot of credit for putting the nucleus of this team together and having a big hand in that. I'd be curious to know if he gets a ring, considering how much of a hand he had and put in, as Miller said, would you want it?

I wouldn't want everyone. I want you to have a ring for the penguins. I'm like, no, I wouldn't want it.

Well, it's a little to me personally, it's a little bit different in management. But but moving away from that, the moves that Brees boy made and I think at the time, people might even question the overpayment. But when you win a Stanley Cup, there's no such thing as overpaying for players that you brought in. And Coleman, who's got another year left on his deal, and Gujral, who's a great young asset, and you mentioned those older veterans that they brought in.

To me, toughness is still very important. And I thought against certain teams, specifically the islanders, when there was a little bit of pushing and shoving coming around, I thought that, you know, the maroon pickup is huge because you have certain big guys in the lineup and as well to take the focus off those skill guys, mind you, those skill guys for Tampa, they did not shy away from any type of physicality.

Yianni Gaud Pallot Killorn the depth tirelli somebody offers Ciccarelli you know. Yeah OK. Well we're oh yeah we're getting into the office she talk.

I'm just like this Tampa team. Where are they going. They're not like that. If you want to cause a ruckus in the office you don't want to, you want to ruin relationships like how are you going to stop this team. You make a macho, crazy offer something for somebody because there you have all these guys. They're going to have to make some tough decisions.

But they are set for the future here, sars-cov-2 and wet. So apparently Surgut, considering a lot of these guys have no move and no trade clause. I mentioned eight of them, eight guys, eight of their top players on our team have no move or no trade clauses but shifting to achieve, given that, you know, he's one of the younger assets and he still hasn't signed the big ticket yet, he's probably more than likely to be moved.

And can they can get a big asset return if, in fact, he wants to go make more of a contribution to another team. He's got his cup, I think, at this point. Now, as a young player, you probably want your payday, right? You already got Hedeman and McDonough on the left side there. I don't know where he's going to fall and anywhere shifting away from that. You mentioned the Conn Smythe. I agree Hedeman was probably the right choice, although I think it was the closest race as far as the Smyth Aura.

It was Fabricant.

Second was point and will you call it had been had nine first place votes, point had eight and they said it was among the closest ever. I don't know if it was the closest ever had it.

We can get nine to eight one vote.

Well it was a three three vote system so that had a no Hedeman had nine first place votes, eight second place votes and one third place vote and point had eight eight and one. So literally it was won first place for it, which, which I think contributes three points that separated them. And I don't think either I don't think anyone would have been upset if either of them would have won. You even mentioned Kuchera, but I just felt Point-to-point and had been were were a little bit above that.

But I even tweeted out during the game, have you ever seen Koocher off? Get a bad pass, this fucking guy? You could he's like one of those video games. You just throw it in his area and it gets batted down and it's on a stick and he's ready to make a play. It's insanity. All playoffs long. He was great, even especially on the power play like the the Tampa Bay Lightning. One thing that they're very good at in the ozone is they relieve pressure.

If the pucks on one side of the ice and they feel any type of pressure, they'll throw it to the other side. And everybody it's like watching the sitting's they know exactly where it's going. They're right there. And then if there's more pressure on that side, come in. They'll throw it right back around until they're able to pull it off the wall and have full control in the ozone. So it was it was just gorgeous to watch you hit the nail on the head with a tweet Batmen after pulling off the bubble the way you have in the NHL and everyone involved.

Now, all of a sudden, I think everybody's getting a soft spot for you. The fact that you didn't pour in boos over the fuck, over the sound system, it would have made every person watching laugh really hard, would have various move.

He would have been he would have passed silver and then he could have like he could have been like I you know, he could have like WWE eat it up. A little bit, yeah, probably pallbearer a little bit. He could have got a Sketchers deal out of it. Always been running around those shitty shoes or fuckin playoffs.

Inside the bubble, you'll wonder if that some orthotics is anyone close enough to him, like, hey, you can do it or they have to clear it with Batman for us.

You know, like if some guy does that, like all the love it and the next day he's fucking collecting unemployment, if we ever if we ever get him on this podcast, that's a first question I'm going to ask him. Did you get asked if it would be OK and if he if he natu kybosh that, did you kybosh the boos that were going to come in?

I want answers, but it was it was great to see Cooper when cop. I know that was long awaited, he'd won a championship, but I think every level in hockey up until, up until the Stanley Cup are I don't know if you saw that tweet, should I read up on what a crazy story this guy is and also say a former lawyer, former lawyer.

Well, it wasn't just the former lawyer. He was a public defender.

Make an absolute shit. He was playing on a hockey team with a bunch of lawyers. He didn't play in college. He played lacrosse in college at Hofstra.

And he got Buddy Buddy with a judge there. And then I think it was his kids team needed a coach.

They weren't good. He did it on a lark. He did it just to help out. And he was fucking had a knack for it. The team did a total 180. Then he got another job, just kept pumping up. Pump it up. Agel You know, fucking NHL now he's won the Stanley Cup. It's absolutely insane. He didn't say, I want to be a hockey coach and this is what I want to do. He just did it on a lark and had a knack for it.

He said it was like talking. He said it was like talking to a jury. You basically got to convince the guys in the room. That's what he compared it to, which I thought was a pretty cool analogy. That's unbelievable.

What a great story. Yeah, it was like high school junior, a better junior league age. And it was it was it was nuts to read about him. And I think that guys I mean, did you see the hug him in Maroon gave each other?

Yeah, Maroon was on that 017 whatever. I think it was a junior team somewhere. Maroon actually won that title with him thirteen years ago.

So and his comments about Maroon after the game when they asked about him, he says he's got character and he is a character. And I thought that summed up the big rig perfectly. We got to interview the big rig because I'll tell you right now, I was crying, laughing.

He big they get the camera inside the locker room and there's like fourteen guys. They haven't taken one thing off, put their helmet and gloves around the cup, taking pictures, big rigs in the corner. He's completely undressed already. He's like going in the shower. Mike, is this to leave in the bubble to head up. He played in Edmonton. He's got to have some bar hookups there. So you going to get the boys set up somewhere like like a speakeasy kid?

You're not allowed to do anything but shit. I think he just wanted to be in some dry clothes after his big game. Of course, he gets an assist. The craziest part is like you look back at the year he had and how good he is in the playoffs, the style of hockey he plays.

Why did St. Louis not sign him? But it's so he he was a little I don't know if he took what he did with Tampa, I mean, he would have not taken out St. Louis. They just decided to completely move on. Little surprise. Looking back now, Grant, he just wins another cup. So it seems a lot easier said right now. But he's just a force in the playoffs. He just gets it down low. You can't get it from him.

He was he was showering up to get ready for his job skills because he ended up putting the Drake back to back to non smoking the cigar all over Instagram. I believe he face time wipe as well. So congratulate like we've talked about it before, too. He hasn't gotten his payday. There's some talk circulating around. I believe Andy Strickland tweeted something out about the fact that he might be looking at a multiple year contract year. And I've heard rumors Montreal might be interested.

Of course, Tampa is looking to bring him back. And I would assume another couple teams people have been thrown Toronto out there because that toughness and character is needed in that locker room. I just don't know if they have the money to to slightly overpay a guy to bring a guy in for character reasons. But either way, man, like, I hope he gets his payday. And congratulations on Back-To-Back cups.

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What's up? I have to tell you one thing about Kutuzov, because we haven't even brought that. That's not what we did, but he's just the ability to handle the passes. I can't believe I didn't drop this. And then there's three men who've had twenty six or more assists in a single playoff season. Let me guess. Let me guess. Yep.

Wayne Gretzky four times and Mario Lemieux did already say that's that last episode.

Suck it. When you stack up this in your face switch you got to get up early. I'm the best. I'm like what a fucking stat. Wayne Gretzky, Amathila Kutuzov at business. He dropped his nuts in my face last week.

Suck it when I actually got a fucking stat for you. Tappa played two hundred and twenty minutes of overtime, playoff hockey, most in in history for a single run.

Well it is a five, four, five vote game. Oh OK.

So now you're sitting on my stats say well I went to the finals. It's not shocking.

They had a five point game three. I don't know if you had this one written down either. Tampa's core group is very unique. Stammer Hedeman, Vasilescu, Koocher of Killorn Pallot, Piquet, Point, Johnson, Ciarelli and Gaud have played a combined five thousand seven hundred and eighty one games playoff and regular season. All of them have been in a Tampa uniform, not to mention Cooper is longer. Longest tenured coach in NHL history are in NHL right now and NHL right now.

What do you mean, just like the way you just said that you tried to say NATO history that in the NHL, right?

No, because I was reading and you know that I'm not a good reader. OK, now you're just going to be bullying me all podcast. But the point being is, given that they hadn't had that had that Stanley Cup success until now, it would have been easy to blow it up a little bit and trade guys, especially after what happened last year, and that people have been sending this one out there on social media as well. Stamkos, his comments right afterward.

Last year, he was like, no, this is the group. This is a glitch. Something shitty happened. We lost control of the ship. But we need another chance at this and credit to to the brass. And everybody in that organization was sticking with that core group because now they deliver. And now that they've gotten one out of the way, I have no qualms about the fact that they they're going to be one of the favorites to repeat.

Yeah.

And about that, it's like the sustained excellence. It is rewarded around the NHL. Washington got their Stanley Cup. Pittsburgh's good every year and they get the back to back.

If you're if you're top five team consistently in the league, chances are you're going to get your Stanley Cup and it takes luck. Look what we said. So I love that they didn't really change anything there. They added guys. And also, like, if I look at Tampa next year, there's no chance they're not the favorites to repeat. It doesn't matter what happens this offseason. It's just they're set up. I love seeing it because it's exciting hockey.

So are they having a parade, by the way?

Yeah. Boat parade. All right. Yeah, they got that canal there.

And it doesn't seem to be too concerned with social distancing. The masks of Florida is going to do it. Florida is going to go down whatever whatever floats your boat of this fucking story.

What were what were the biggest standouts for you in the final, specifically? First of all, I want to go back to Maroon. I mean, we talked about the character of let's talk about that fucking unreal play he made to set up the goal. He picked off Reggie Law's pass, both boomlets and that, you know, that ended up being the ballgame right there.

So he made a huge play there. The dynamic duo of Koocher often point they produce together sixty seven points, which is the fourth highest total among duos ever after Gretzky and Coffey, Lemieux and Rickie in Gretzky Hamshire.

I mean, you mentioned those names and then those two. It's incredible. I don't care if you want to put in the first three games or not. It's still impressive as hell. But the swing to me is special teams. Oh my gosh.

Tampa Bay, seven for eighteen on the powerplay. Dallas just one for nineteen. I mean, that's it that you got to take advantage. I mean one for nineteen. That's I think six or seven percent. You're just not going to win with that. Tampa was Delly also to Dallas again they kind of know what happened to Colorado versus them, the kind that happened with Dallas versus Tampa Bay. They lost tenso, they lost Foxo, those Comeaux. These guys are huge guys in Atlanta, man.

You know, you're putting and black aces in my league is just not the same caliber. And I think that really hurt Dallas as well.

I couldn't agree more because if you if you do remember when I picked Dallas going in, I thought Tampa was banged up. Well, they weren't as banged up as expected. Dallas was healthy. And then they kind of ended up being the banged up team. And then I mentioned special teams coming into that round. I believe Dallas was number one on the powerplay coming in at twenty seven percent. And in every series, they got those opportunistic goals on the powerplay, even especially when they were coming from behind, because I mentioned that stat a couple of episodes back with where they were on pace to to at least tie the two thousand nine penguins for most comebacks in a playoff run because they finished ended up finishing with eight and also a couple of times in the series, they got up with leads and they and they gave them away, which wasn't happening throughout the playoffs.

So Dallas fans, I'm sorry I missed you, but I think I made the right call coming into the series given what information I had. So fuck you. Well, you reverse Steadman.

You said he was pretty much toast when he twisted his ankle there and then all said he wins the consummate.

So that's another question I'm going to ask somebody when they get on the podcast. Cooper, the he he might have taken some acting as well as while he was in law school, some drama classes for his interviews, trying to fucking sway, sway people's opinions on the guys in the lineup.

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He said he was a seventh and the age. I'll drop them like I know he was the eighth. They ended up having to, like, delete the tweet. I was like, nice little sass like that on Twitter.

One last that as far as the lightning are concerned, Pallot had eleven goals in the last 16 games. I think he was probably their most underrated player during this run. He was excellent. He was fun to watch. And and I think he's yeah, he's a stud.

So now it's it's October, October 1st right here. And what are we thinking? Like October, November. They're going to have three months off. Season starts January, January one.

Optimistically, yeah, so I mean, I feel like that that's realistic now. Has anyone said if they're going to get 82 games in by the end of July and playoffs?

There's still a lot of questions right now. I also read that the NHL lost between, I think, 70 and 90 million dollars, putting this on. Ultimately, this was done in order to of course, they wanted to finish the season. They wanted to get the the draft order figured out in the end. But ultimately, next year, there's going to have to be fans in certain buildings. They're also considering doing a bubble like a bubble experience, but in multiple cities at once.

Yeah, Frank Cervalis wrote about that. I mean, it's pretty much a trial balloon right now. Putin guys are like they here bubble.

They're just like tweek and no, no, no.

Therein lies the rub with, you know, the hybrid bubbles that Khanum four to six cities. It's just a concept right now. And he says it's very early stages and worth noting it won't happen if the players are down.

And after a couple of guys we talk to, I don't know that any of these guys are going to be eager to go in what's called a bubble any time, any time soon.

And I didn't mention it in the last point I was trying to make, which is ultimately the reason I brought it up, is they had to fulfill that the TV situation, which especially moving forward, that new contract is kicking in. So that is that is a massive revenue generator for the NHL. And guys, ultimately, this is a business and they say there might be a little bit of an argument as far as our guy is going to get paid for the full 82 game season last year, given that they didn't technically fulfill that because there wasn't fans that didn't play all of them.

And then the player side of it as well, we've eaten enough of it, like we're doing the whole Estero thing, which is probably going to be 20 percent and we're not going to see that back. So still a lot of things to figure out moving forward. But then again, we just finished the season. I think everybody needs a little bit of a break other than, of course, GMs who their job seems in today's era to never end.

Yeah, definitely going to be a lot of action. But I did have a couple more notes on the cup I wanted to show.

OK, I'll form a guest of the show Braiden inclusion of the seventh pair of brothers to win the Stanley Cup and back to back seasons with different teams. That's such a unique stat. I would have guessed that would maybe happen twice, but seven different times. Brothers back to back different teams. Half of them were probably the starters.

No, I'm shocked that that's happened seven times.

Yeah, and this one from Greg. But the 2008 draft now assume the first five players selected all win the Cup. Stamkos, Bogosian, Chen, Drew Doughty and Pietrangelo had already won two previously.

There's a lot of funky little stats. And personally, I want to give congratulations to I don't know, his nickname was Grou, but Derrick Leyland, assistant at Tampa, he's a guy who worked. But years ago up at North Adams State, he was a twenty three year old kid taking his first college job. I was still in college and we worked on the same job as great guy. I would have never thought. Twenty five years later he'd be put in a couple of his head, so real happy for him.

He's he's a great person. Great guy.

Was that hockey team like Plymouth State is like D3 to the North. Adams was D3. They were a few years from fall and they weren't a good team. They were bad. So like, you know, and he that's where he started.

He started there, got his master's there and then boom. Twenty five years later and talking about them on checklists of educating them on a cup. And also to congrats to Braden Coburn. He's been a warrior for a long time. He lost two previous cups with Philly in 2010, Tampa and fifteen. I know he didn't get to see much in the playoffs, if at all, but he was on the team all season. He'll definitely get his name on the cup.

Just want to acknowledge him as well.

Absolutely. You're talking about the coaching staff. They all started from the bottom. Now we're here. We're the Drake back to back.

And now we've got to start from the bottom now where you started from and down that now you guys see Cooper's press conference when he called all the coaches up at the end and he did that just maniacal evil laugh. Yeah, I did.

That was a class that was cool of them. That was really cool of them.

They had a boat that look like about ten guys were crushed in there, just all crushing propinquity. But they were Dommy and something it's phenomenal to see. I got a nice little video of some of the lightning just rip and pink Whitney out of the cup.

Just a great sight to be seen. Somebody was young. It's amazing. The best I've ever tasted is as a as a certain leader in the organization was dummying that pink drink out of the Lord Stanley.

Yeah, that was pretty cool to see. But anyways, we do got a guest coming on shortly. We're not bringing them on right now because we get to discuss some big news first. But we have New York Ranger Brendon Lemieux. We're going to talk to him in a little bit. But first, we're going to talk about, well, his now former teammate, as it's the end of an era on Manhattan, a very handsome arrow with a luscious head of hair.

But all in all, the end is the same for the guy. Henrik Lundqvist has been bought out. He was a loyal soldier. You want to stick to the rebuild? It's still literally the only guest we've had on the show that I've caught myself staring at. We would talk at home. The guy is a handsome man, buddy. One of them's not hot. Finalist once a cup, one year slam dunk Hall of Famer. You know, the writing was probably on the wall for this with the emergence of the other two goalies.

But I mean, this guy, one of the best ever men, you've got a chance to read six tenths blog on Abasto. What?

Yes, I did great work right there by six, ten. Some of those numbers. I mean, I think the six most winningest coach in any winningest goaltender, NHL history. So. All right. You have the rest of them to unreal one quiz for you.

A postseason run ended with insane numbers.

This is when they were contenders for that four year stretch, over seventy six stats that somehow equaled out to a thirty nine and thirty seven record. He posted 205 goals against a nine three save percentage. He won six straight game sevens with the nine seven one save percentage. It was fifteen and. In elimination games, thanks in part to coming back from three one series twice like he was his money, a goalie is there ever was like six 10 said he just didn't get support.

He asked them in his blog, how did Hank end up? Ringlets look no further than the two point one six goals per game of support he was given over his legendary run. Imagine that all they scored for that.

That's wild. That's the only goal support he got.

That is an insane number that 15 years the it averaged out to two point one said no, that the postseason run there, the four year run. OK, OK, sorry about that. No, that's all right.

But I mean, this is you know what this is this is a classic case of he's like the Ovechkin now, where before Ovechkin had his cup, it was always something that was going to be used against his greatness. It had no business being the case. Finally, he got it. Now it's like, oh, yeah, the first ballet, you know, everyone's going crazy.

This man is a Hall of Famer. His numbers fucking show it, which I didn't even know they were that good. But it's very sad that he doesn't get his end on Broadway. Considering that he deserves it, like most of these guys will get that have done that for an organization, it sucks. It sucks.

Yeah, it's just it's a it's like a sad day for fans. And I think fans know it kind of had to happen, but. This guy, I mean, like you think about what everyone says that's played with them, first off, never even loosens his tie on the plane suit, tie everything. You just never you'll never see him looking like a scrub, you know, in the what what do they call those? The leisure suits biz that we like to rock the fart suits.

Yeah. And then the hardest working player on the team every year, I mean, like this guy also, you got to understand, if he didn't think somebody is doing their job, he's not afraid to call it anyone.

He is a true leader. He just worked harder than anyone else who's so dedicated to his craft while also being able to like film commercials because he's a legit rocket launcher and he's out there with with like the perfect beer being the one of the faces in New York City. I mean, there's plenty of rangers you can walk around New York City and not get noticed that guy. No chance.

And the use the number one dog in town mean with hockey is just I can't believe they didn't end up winning the Stanley Cup. I thought for sure his rookie year, you see how good he was. Like, this guy is getting one at some point.

And to think he did it all and he was so athletic in that while carrying around that massive hog has Daugherty's how does that happen? How do you even move around like that? You'd be I'd have to think in a fucking wheelbarrow out there on the ice.

Maybe you would help my balance, maybe would help my balance sometimes life.

As for the numbers, because his cap, it was eight point five billion, but his actual salary was only 5.5 million. So he's going to get a million and a half for the next two years. And the rags will take a five point five hit this year, one point five next year. But I don't think the Rangers give too much of a ship.

Come to the desert, we'll pick you up. I'll be your pool boy. I'll cut the grass.

Rangers have like twenty million in cap space now. Yeah, well, yeah, they owners. I also heard on social media, so it must be true. D'Angelo in Anaheim, potential trade there. I don't know if we mentioned that last podcast. So I think New York is very, very well aware that in today's NHL you can go from being like a shit team to like boom. We've added a couple of pieces because we're the Rangers and we're able to beat in fucking Panarin.

And who's the defense when that strong a bit of a blank here forto I know. Well, Fox is great, but the other one they brought over from Winnipeg. Come on, Dhruva.

Oh, Booba Dhruva. Like, they got some really good pieces. And now with all this cap space, if they're able to sign like one or two massive pieces, which I don't know if they're going to do because, you know, you want you don't want to always want to just throw cap space and turn it at guys who are potential depreciating assets. But now you have the first overall pick. And on top of that, there's also a rumor going around that, okay, all right, go.

But the ball comes on Twitter and starts Barcott about Eichel and like, oh, yeah, there's nothing going on here. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Nothing going on. Something fucking going on.

I guess that the go like Jeff Gordon, the GM in New York was saying to you, I'm going to start fining you if you get like penalties for yelling at refs or stuff and he'd walk by the do you owe me any money for any ref abuse? He's like, nah, but at the end of the year, you're going to have to pay a shit load.

This guy doesn't give a shit.

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Well the fish and video is coming soon and we get behind the kind of hot because it's hot. Fedoruk was busting my balls about it but I kind of explain the reasoning behind that.

I'm looking forward to talking about that. Also, Will will have some sandbaggers out, I think we're going to roll out one a month, right? That's the decision we made. We got one coming out October, November and December. Guys, do not message me about the fans. And he's the one that was I'm sure nobody will know.

It was it was the third one we did.

It's going to come out in December. Yes. We dangled the carrot. We were sorry for that. Don't message me about it anyway. If you don't think we're going to talk about the potential, I'll trade. You guys are nuts. New York has the first overall pick. If now all of a sudden this rumor has been created or if there is some truth to it. Do you think the first overall picks are going to get the job done, or do you got to send over more if you waymark way more.

And if I'm Buffalo and I'm pretty sure that Kevin Adams came out and said, like, you have to take phone calls, we are not shopping him, he's not going anywhere.

I think those are exact words. You have to if you ever even did it, even after saying that and you just got the first overall pick, people in Buffalo would burn the arena down.

You cannot ever think the premier is going to be as good as Jack. I'm sorry. You can't bank on that.

You cannot bank on that because he is considering who he's playing with. I would say it goes easily a top 20 player in the league. Is that fair statement? Yeah.

Oh, are you shitting me right out of go out now? I, I think that when Mackenzie's tweeting about it, there's obviously something there. There's discussions that have been had. Now, I'm not going to say I requested a trade. You hear that. He did. You hear he didn't.

But Buffalo would be nuts with what's going on to get rid of him if there's one dude to keep you guys think if there's one guy to keep, it's Jack Haikal.

So we'll see if he ever got moved. And it was just for the first overall pick. It'd be riots. It'd be it'd be a gong show of epic proportions.

So I think you'd need a shit ton more than that.

Buffalo fans do not scold me for saying this, but I would love for them to go one for one for the first overall, just to see just to see the chief, just like it would be like it.

Will people be hanging what I'm thinking of a movie scene I'm really drawn to.

I want to hear I want to hear it. We're going to wait for it. I think it's from.

It's from fucking mean girls. Have you ever seen Mean Girls, the movie, you know, the scene? Do you know all you know the movie. Oh fuck. I saw, you know, the scene when when when when Lindsay Lohan is describing, like, the kids like going at each other and all of a sudden it like switches to like kids being like animals in a jungle.

That fucking that would be like the city of buffalo when they're like hanging from the rafters like monkeys and fucking. Do you know what I'm talking about? That was the scene that came into my head. I'm so happy. I just thought of it.

I'm just thinking of Lindsay Lohan was all in long.

My my kids absolutely love McAdams, who had a bigger fall off her, the girl and Van Wilder or Van Wild or Tara Reid way because she was dating Tom Brady at one point that.

No way. And then she dropped off from that. Yeah.

Tara Reid, when you're talking like Van Wilder, she was up there. She ended up going down a tough path.

You haven't seen you haven't seen what's her name, Lindsay Lohan's dancing video in Ibiza recently. That was tough.

I put her neck and neck with Terry Reid dancing like Oura at that karaoke bar when we were in Philadelphia singing Rolling Stones, fucking Jagger.

All right, boys, what did they want? To send it over to Brendan Lemieux right about now. What? Yeah, sounds good.

My next guest is coming off his fifth pro season after being taken 31st overall in the 2014 draft. He's currently with the New York Rangers after breaking into the NHL with Winnipeg. He also played not one, but two Quebec attorneys. Thanks for joining us on the show, Brendon Lemieux.

Oh, that's hilarious. Thanks for having me, guys.

My pleasure. So what are you doing? How are you spending your break? I know it's not summer time, but it's been a crazy season where you hold up now.

I actually work full time in New York, so it's been a bit of a change. My parents are used to summer in California out there with them. But last year I just decided I wanted to get some Fogelson in the city.

So I'm really enjoying New York area for the summer. It's been awesome.

You I'm sorry, because he just he just he just got in and he just got in with me. Did he play where you play an actor, you playing some Westchester tracks, you play in Sleepy Hollow maybe.

Yeah. I would kind of fall around. My favorites are definitely Liberty and Hudson National or Hudson and a lot of.

Yeah, Hudson's gorgeous. I love it. But you know what? Liberty is grown on me a lot this summer especially. I played a lot out there.

So, you know, it's been, you know, tank at Hudson National. Of course, I know tank tanks aren't with them anymore, but he is my boy, I love I love Tank. All right, so he's the man, one of my buddies, because he used to be he used to work at Hudson National. So he sets me up one time. The Rangers are playing Washington in the playoffs and I'm going to drive up in the morning.

I'm going to play there like 11:00 and then just shoot into the city, go to the game and with my buddy. Hey, what a joy. Absolute day. So I get their fucking tank. Didn't tell me they punched the greens that morning. I was losing my mind.

What does that mean? Punch the greens. Oh, this big ass holes in the green. They try to aerate him a couple of times a year and all of a sudden he's putting in a fucking public park your country club.

So you. I'd thrive on those fucking greens, man. That's what I used to. I would be like the Mystic Allen out there. But can I call you Pepé George? Is that what they call you around the household?

It's it's yeah. It's it's I've taken the nickname over. That's he's just old man. Now, that's unbelievable.

I hadn't had really much of a chance to watch you play in full. And then I watched the playoff game this year and I'm like, oh my God, I'm like, this guy is probably exactly like his old man. And as your game's progressing offensively more and more. But you are a real piece of shit out there. You fuck. I believe you hit the guy three times before the puck dropped off the face off.

That was kind of a question, but I'm kind of looking for your reassurance that you are a piece of shit out there.

I mean, I don't know if I'm allowed to use those words, but I think I try to be try to emulate my dad's game.

I watched it. I didn't watch much live. I was too young of his of his prime. But, you know, but I've watched him and watch guys that like Horsburgh. And I always wanted to play, you know, on the edge. And no, I had a similar skill said to my dad. So I always try to play that way, play hard happens, you know, to work a little bit better in the playoffs. So that's what I always try to do.

And I think it's kind of my nation. I shouldn't, especially in New York with a group of guys that we have. It puts me in kind of a spot where they don't have anybody that similar breed and gives me an opportunity to play with some really highly skilled guys. And you know, where maybe if I was just a typical flat. Vanilla up and down guy that I might not be able to, but it seems like teams like those kind of guys in the playoffs especially, and that's what I always try to do.

And I think it definitely comes naturally. I don't really have to think about it. Too much is just kind of a competitive spirit that I have. And yeah, I think that's probably the right word.

You took a long way, so he knows you're right.

So, Pep, I'm wondering if you I'm guessing actually you probably all heard those stories prior, but did you get a kick out of listening to Gomez talk about playing with your dad?

You know what, I hadn't heard that perspective. That was outrageous, but I mean, it was comedy like I could not believe the one on the bus there. I was like, jaw dropped, crying, laughing. But that was that was outrageous. I could not believe that. I could I could see it because, you know, I don't why he has a French accent. I don't really hear it as much unless he gets on the phone with someone, a French guy or his brother's family.

But where we go to Montreal with his family. But, man, that was that was really funny. And, you know, my dad would always talk about Gomer, but he would I wouldn't get it from that perspective that I could totally see it and be in that kind of super that can't say anything to him. Oh, man. I laugh really hard. That was great. That was my favorite episode. But my dad's whole career workups legendary career consummates, what you could maybe call a win at all costs style of play wisdom to pass on to when it came to playing on the edge and occasionally stepping over that edge.

Well, you know, that's kind of I think my dad was disciplined a few times in his career, too.

When you play on the edge, you're going to you're going to step over it a few times. And it's not it's not I don't think a lot of guys it's intentional. It's just it just happens. You know, you have to walk that line and it's an art form and sometimes you go over it. I think Tom Wilson's probably a good example of a guy similar to the way my dad was, where when my dad was in his prime and similar he was a modern day Tom Wilson or an old school Tom Wilson.

And you're going to step over the line. But the game's changed a lot and there's a lot more suspensions. You've got the slo mo cameras. You've got all these different angles. And and so it's you can't get away with anything nowadays. So you got to be really careful. And but I don't think anybody's out there trying to hurt anybody. It's just you're playing hard and you're going to you're going to catch guys, you know, to make three, three or four hundred.

I don't even know what in a season how many hits you make, but you make I think the top guys are around three hundred and make that many hits and one hundred and twenty in the playoffs or whatever it was. I think that you're going to catch a guy late, you're going to catch a guy high and you just got to live with it. It's part of the game. But you want to do your best to keep it clean at all times.

Well, especially today's day and age. Do you feel that when you make plays like that, that maybe the media has an effect in how you're labeled or does that not even cross your mind? Like, fuck it, I'm OK being the villain, that's going to be my job and it's too bad. So sad. Well, I mean, I definitely have no issue being the villain. I don't want to spend any time in the press box watching that sucks.

So it does suck. You know, I don't really want to comment too much on my previous suspensions, but, yeah, I mean, there's definitely never an intent there to catch you guys later. You got high or you're just trying to finish plays. You want to go back on the ice. If I skate by a guy because I think he's vulnerable and I don't hit him and he puts it in the back of the net, I'm going to be sliding down the bench like this was when he played.

So I love it if he was even in the lineup. Yeah, I was. I was I was moving down the bench in the press box for the popcorn that was on the ladies tease.

Yeah. That was going to leave.

So, yeah, I just I just want to play and be physical and know, make an impact. And and so if I catch a guy later high or whatever, it is definitely not intentional and I try to avoid it as much as I can. But it's a quick game, man, especially nowadays. These kids coming in, they're just flying so fast. You just have that. You know, they talk about it on your suspension here and see your point five seconds late.

I mean. Twenty five minutes late. So that's that's really what it comes down to.

Split second, I was always jealous isn't the right word, but I always thought it was so cool when players had kids, they were old enough, they were playing hockey and that were, you know, six, seven, eight years old. They could be in the room. It's like every kid's dream. Your father's in the NHL, but you're interesting and kind of original in the sense that your dad's a little bit on the way out when you're you're six years old.

He's in Phoenix, seven years old. I'm sure you're going into the room. But when did you kind of realize that my dad's only in the NHL, but he's this guy that all these teams, fans like love to hate. And you're at a young age when you're learning, wow, all these teams would have loved to have my dad on their team, but if he wasn't on their team, they despise him, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I kind of grew up in that, like, very early YouTube era where, like, social media was just kind of coming around. And so I kind of got like I guess once we started using YouTube, I think it was probably when I was in middle school there, we would look up our like I would look up my dad could see like what what kind of player he was or, you know, and all I could see on YouTube, because it's like people are fans post stuff of, like, their favorite guy.

It's not like you get a collection of all it's gold and it's just like hit from behind rivalry. There's like one video like he's fighting in warmups, fighting in the stands. So, like, I really got like a good grasp of all that just by going on the Internet and then, like, asking him stories and listening, you know, Jeremy alone, it's like my second dad and hearing Jared talk about the stuff that went on with him and the battles and the and the chirping and the my favorite stories are the warm up fights.

Like that's so unbelievable to me.

I just can't believe that these guys, these guys fighting and shower sandals before the game in the playoffs. I think it was a silly and hearing stuff like that. I mean, I think it's really cool. I kind of wish that we had a full team brawl or something like that, you know, like that just doesn't happen anymore. It's almost like gladiator ish. But it's cool to hear these guys talk about these old school stories. And, you know, it's just such a different game now.

You don't have the guys going out the night before a game and then getting on the bus and, you know, talking about how hungover they were.

Just just it's just a different era. But it's really cool to hear some of these stories from that era talk to these guys. And I was really blessed and lucky to be around a lot of legendary hockey players growing up. Joe Forton was one of my favorites, especially at the end of my dad's career there, San Jose.

This is going to be a long winded question, but at every level you've found a way to generate points, right? Maybe hasn't came natural right off the start. Like looking back to your junior career, you had forty one year you start playing pro in the American League, then you end up, you know, being able to put up some points in your second year. Where do you think your ceiling is is an NHL player and at those levels, has it basically just came with ice time and you've been able to figure out just how to do it at every level?

I think it's hard to put ceilings on guys or to predict what kind of goal scorer you're going to be or how good you can be. I I definitely agree with you, though. That's a great point you brought up. I always have been like, I need to get my feet wet. I need to earn trust, whether it's culture or whatever it is, get more ice time, but find my niche, find my way in each league. It kind of always took me.

I never was like a guy that came in and just blew it up and had that great out first year. It always took me a little longer. I've always felt like my game translates really well to the second half and or playoffs in an NHL season. And what I mean by that is before Christmas, a lot of times it's. The same style of hockey that you saw in the playoffs, the game is a lot more perimeter. There's a lot more plays being made.

There's not I mean, if you watch that that game six, how many pucks got dumped in? Yeah. And a lot of those guys aren't guys that dump pucks in all year long. So you see, Dallas was dumping Poxon and they're getting stopped by Vasilescu every time. And it's like you look at those guys and they're not used to it. They're just throwing them in because they're run out of space. They run out of time, they dump it in and Vasilescu goes back, gets it break out clean.

You're on the fourth line or on the third one for a long time and you dump upchucking a goalie stops it, coach comes back, goes well. You spent the whole time in your own end because of a bad dump. And so I think that I think that guys that are smart about those simple plays of simple games have a lot of success in the playoffs. So for me, I've always felt like my ceiling is I can be a guy that can score goals on a power play in front of the net.

I could be trusted defensively, offensively. I definitely think I could play up and down a lot of different lineups depending on the way coach wants to put his lines together. I know I've always had an ability to score goals and I know I can. Just a matter of getting your foot in the door, building that trust defensively, starting there and moving it forward. I don't think I'm going to talk numbers. If you guys anybody can say you play with McDavid, they're going to score 30 goals.

I don't I'm not dumb enough to put myself put the put a number out there, but I definitely think I got a lot more than back. As far as offensive numbers.

There's also a forty fifty to your point, I, I played with Raffi Torres and when we signed him, I'd say in the first twenty games of the season, Tippett hated him and he was like, what, like what is this, what is this guy. By the time he got kicked out against Chicago, I felt like I think as a team we felt that we'd lost our most valuable player because at that time of the season and as it progressed, he just found a way to be such a factor in games where you were like, where the fuck was this guy at the start of the year?

And same thing the next year. And I mean, you guys are very similar players. Yeah.

I mean, I like I like Tom Wilson right now a lot. I don't like playing against them. I don't like him. I don't know that I'm not a friend of his. I like his game. I think that he's a good example of a guy who plays NHL hockey, has a lot of skill, but is a simple type player and plays up in the lineup and plays big minutes and started out at the bottom and built his way up.

Definitely did. Well, the doors off anyone in his first few years, tough as nails. And I think the guys like that. There's a lot of room in the game for guys like that and they're rare to find there aren't a lot of it's hard to find guys that play hard in today's NHL that play physical. They can fight, they can score goals. There isn't really even one on every team now, which is crazy. Ten years ago was a lot different.

So I think that you'll see a little resurgence with guys like that coming up. And I hope for my sake, they're still valued as they were in the past. But those are the kind of guys that I try to I try to emulate. Friend, in a few minutes ago, you mentioned some legendary players. The big news on Wednesday, obviously, was Henrik Lundquist was getting bought out by the Rangers. I know you weren't with him as much as some guys were, but he seems like the type of guy he only needs.

Two seconds to win you over. You hold him from two seasons. What's your reaction to that? Well, obviously, it sucks.

I mean, I won't mince words. Hank is a legend in New York.

Sucks that he had to go out that way, but obviously you understand it. Coronaviruses and salary cap, all of it. Just not a it's a perfect storm for what happened. But we loved Hank. He was just a great guy. I always looked up to him even before I ever dreamed of playing for the Rangers. I just that's a legend. You know, it's kind of surreal playing playing in front of them. And a great guy. I was actually just shooting on him the last couple of weeks.

He's still awesome. It's always in such good shape.

Keeps the craziest ten year round.

And I have no idea how he's got a tanning bed in his house, but he loves it on the road. I don't know if he'll be here. He will not he will not confirm or deny that.

But I got I got to think he he's a beauty, great guy, got a great family, obviously wish him nothing.

But the best was just so, so great in our dressing room. Understanding patient. He was just competitive as hell. So great teammate. It's such a weird day for the city of New York losing him. But obviously part of the business and you've got to look forward. We got a lot of young guys, a lot of bright future here. So I'm excited about the next few years.

If you took a poll in the locker room, do you think more guys would say it's spray tan or it's a tanning bed for four? Lundquist is tan.

Oh, it's it's definitely if it is anything, it's definitely tanning. But yeah, it's a real. It's my mind wandering off in the shower, I don't know if you know about mine, I got a tanning spray tan washed off in the shower.

No, now that he's you know what I think we talked about at one time, as he gets darker after games, like when he sweats, he gets like tan. It's the it's the coolest skin thing I've ever seen. He's like a robot like this awesome brons. When he gets mad. Yeah. He gets he gets I mean, he's so competitive. He's just awesome. Awesome guy. Best looking hockey player. There's probably ever been such a beauty.

I mean, it's just such a cool guy. Cool guy to be around.

I just want to ask you quickly about his replacements, this young Russian kid. Is it just working, as I said? Yep, yep, is this guy the real deal, because you look at his numbers in the KHL and obviously they feel confident in this guy at a young age is going to be able to take the reins.

He is he's nuts. I mean, he's so good. It's it's stupid. I've never seen anything like it. Besides, in a video game, he's really that good. So and he's he's you can really score some goals on him in practice, too. He's not he's not one of those guys that's always on. But when the game when the puck drops and the and the game starts, I've never seen somebody read the game better. I've never seen somebody he's just he's just unreal.

Like if you watched a Rangers game, especially one where we played poorly and watched him because he's incredible. So I'm excited to watch to see him play and how, you know, it was just terrible. Last year you got in a car wreck, you know, and they missed a substantial amount of time before the playoffs there. So, I mean, he's he's a really frickin good player. Exciting.

We always like to go back early and guys careers, as you know, if you listen to the show, Buffalo taking it thirty first. Overall, as I mentioned, your dad is also your age. And so there's different priorities there. They'll report you weren't going to sign that no matter what. Was that the feeling right when you get drafted? It was something that came later. Like how did that all transpire? No, no, that was never really talked about publicly.

Actually, it was there was more. We were just wanted to be patient.

We didn't want to sign a contract. You know, if you guys know about entry level contracts that they aren't really what they seem. They're not really a three year contract, especially for a guy that's not a first round pick. They're more like a seven year, essentially, because they could send you back to Junior for two years and then even a third year. And then they could and then you can play in the minors and then make it if they're not earning years.

And so then by the time you play, you play one year or maybe a half a season in the NHL and then you're RFA until you're twenty seven. So it's it's not really just a three year contract. So we were just conscious of that and we didn't know what was going on with the coach and the GM. And by the time I mean I would have been playing or or maybe even in my second year if I played at 19 or 20, they would have had almost everything.

So we just knew there was a lot of uncertainty there. So we just wanted to be patient. If I would have made the team that first year, I probably would have signed a contract right then and there.

But that didn't happen. I went back and then within a month or two I was traded and that was under contract to Winnipeg. So it really had nothing to do with Buffalo itself. It was just the kind of uncertain times that they were in as an organization.

I'm wondering, like you get to Manitoba, right?

I mean, when you finally leave Junior and you turn pro and things are going pretty good, I mean, kind of two full seasons in the NHL, you get a chance in the in the NHL and boom, you're traded like take me through that, because it's now it's now a little bit shocking because I think you'd kind of at least when I watched you play in Winnipeg, some type of player, you were going to be the shauntay player that you were able to play like an inconsistency and things like that.

And now you're off to a different team, definitely a younger team, which is good. But what were your thoughts and how did you how did you find out about that deal?

Yeah, that was while I was you know, I was I think I was the lowest or one of the lowest consistent guy with like maybe over 40 games or 30 games. I played a little bit the year before. I played like nine games, but I was up for like a little less than half the season. So I I was in the press box a lot.

I was really grinding to try to break in. And to be honest with you guys just took a lot longer than I thought it was. I knew I was a depth guy. I knew I was like a fourth or third line guy breaking in one hundred percent. And it just didn't happen as quick as I wanted it to. But they had a great team, so I kind of understood it, waited my turn.

Finally, I made the team my third year pro and got going and was playing well and honestly, I mean, I was producing I think I had nine goals at the end before the trade deadline, which for a guy I think my average age was like seven minutes and thirty seconds.

Oh, that much? Jesus, I don't know what fucking thirty that year with that much ice time of the year.

So I was pretty, I was pretty happy with my season, my production and just not my ice obviously. So you know, we were a little uncertain about where what the direction of the team was going as far as like how I was going to be used and and and then but I had no idea getting ready for playoffs. And I'm pretty much our only physical guy really in that like that pure physical role in Winnipeg. And then to get traded right at the at the morning of the deadline, it was just a shock to get a call at eight in the morning.

You're up, up late, goofing around, talking about who we thought was going to get traded. And I said everyone in the room was with like five or six was like, where there's no way you're getting traded. And I was like, yeah. And then my hotel room phone rings. I pick it up. And it was my dad and my dad's my agent.

And I pick it up and he goes, You just got traded to New York.

I go, What?

And then my roommate, Jack Rózsa, that gets up and he goes, Where do I get traded to?

Because my roommate thought he was the one who's going to get my roommate because I got traded.

I go, I'm going to New York because I got traded in New York. He was like half sleeping. And I'm like, no, dude, I am.

And the look on their faces was hilarious.

Next thing you know, I had I had one of the boys knocking on my door like two minutes later, I'm, like, in shambles. And then I'm on a plane to New York with my I never went back to Winnipeg. I had my stuff in the my apartment in Winnipeg. They they sent movers to pack it all up. But I spent like a month in New York with like a three day road trips worth the clothes. I had to go buy all new stuff because, you know, we had a game the next day and that's how our packs are crazy.

Arrigo's for like a twelve day vacation. He's got his knapsack. Where's all your fucking luggage.

I don't shovel Manhattan. I head out to fucking Staten Island. I go buy my clothes. I can't afford Manhattan for one second here.

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I want to stick around. I want to take a Winnipeg for a second. Paul Morris was your first NHL coach. He's been around forever. And coaches, I think, have had to adjust to maybe a new breed of young player, maybe not necessarily yourself, but in general. Was he an intimidating coach for you when you first got there?

Yeah, I mean, Paul was he was he was scary. He had that, like, I see. Almost almost scared to him.

And you definitely didn't want to walk in his office, but he was a great coach. I love playing for him even when I wasn't playing. I mean, he was just smart.

He was really articulate, was was hard on guys when when he needed to be he knew how to fire guys up, but he wasn't overly overly hard on you. I mean, he was just like a veteran veteran coach, but a players coach. I mean, he really knew what to say to get the boys going. He knew when to cancel a practice. Wonder, you know, when to step on the gas, when not to run a really good training camp.

I love playing for Paul. Everyone in that Winnipeg organization was great from the ownership all the way down to the training staff.

It's a it's a really is a first class organization. They did a great job. They that city wanted the team back so that when they lost it and they just I think they just kind of made a deal that they were going to do everything right when they got it back. And they and they've been doing so. And that's why you've seen them have more and more success. And, you know, it's tough when you develop a lot of really good, young, good players.

They all got to get paid. So the window in the NHL is just so small nowadays. It really is an art form trying to build up that team, kind of like Tampa did, develop trade free agents, kind of. The whole picture is it's tough to do, but I think when it takes on a pretty good job of that lately.

You mentioned living in a hotel when you get traded to New York with, you know, no calls. But I'm pretty sure your dad, when he played for the Sharks last year, lived in a hotel the whole season. Like where were you with him at that time or anything?

Was he was forty that year. Yeah, he was my dad was forty three playing, and I think it was 08, J.R. was on the team at the time and they were it was crazy. There were two old guys and Jeremy's son is my best friend, Brett Rolnik. And so we were both in San Jose and I was homeschool and living with my dad in the hotel. I mean, I even I even went to the minors for like a couple of weeks and they put a little stall in the dressing room.

I mean, it was it was a cool experience for a young kid that wanted to play hockey to get to like he was my dad when he was in the minors. And then he gets called up and then go to San Jose and go stay in the hotel with them and get to be around for and, you know, all those legends that they had and that 018, it was just crazy as it really was. It was a it was the only time I really remember watching him play and like, can could visually, like, be smart enough or conscious enough to really know, like when he did good, when he did bad, like what it meant to score a goal.

Like it was just really cool to see. I remember the first game he came back, he was was crazy, standing ovation, etc. the white hair and warm up. It was while it was really cool.

We're sticking on the coaches theme with Dale Howard, Chuck, who you hadn't very, you know, obviously memorable story. He passes and I never met him just from reading everything online. I felt like I knew the guy, just a salt of the earth from a human being who you had the pleasure of being coached by for a few years and barriers. I want you to talk about him and your relationship and how vital he was to your career.

Yeah. Yeah, well, when I said, like, J.R. is my second dad, you know, I've spent a lot more time with J.R. than I did Dale, but without Dale, I probably wouldn't be playing in the NHL. You never know with those things. But he took a young kid who had no idea how to play really the right NHL style of game and really gave me an identity.

He was the first person to, you know, put me in front of the net and to give me that opportunity to play on the power play and really show me how to do it. Dale was still is incredible. He was by far and above the best coach I've ever had coaching the. He had this mind for the way the power play. We're creating two on ones that I think was really unparalleled. But he was a better person and he really was.

He loved the game of hockey so much, he was obsessed with it.

I remember in Junior in between periods, go in his office and he'd be watching NHL games in between periods as he was coaching junior games. I mean, he was like that, obsessed with hockey. He watched games on on the bus. I mean, he was just always hockey, hockey, hockey. He knew how he was playing when he was playing with the Jets. And then, you know, he was coaching and developing all these kids. He loved skating everybody.

I think it was Wednesday, he would skate with us in the three on three and absolutely light up our goalies at like fifty five years old. I don't know, maybe even older, 60. He was huge. He was crazy good still. And he was just such a nice guy and obviously a for his family lot sucks to lose them really. It stings not happen to a better person. He's just such a such a good guy and it sucks.

But I miss him and you know. Yeah, that one sucks. That's that's really well said and pretty memorable for people who know him the way he spoke about them. That's awesome.

I mean, what a guy and I kind of I, I want to go to also in Junior, you get the chance to play with with Winzer for I mean, did you get traded your last year in Junior? Because I look at that roster and like I look at what just happened in the cup, you had to play with that Sawaguchi right. Like did you see how good this guy was going to be when you were that young.

You know my dad has always had a pretty good feeling for who I play with hoaxing McDavid when I was a kid memorialise before I played for Dale and Junior and he could tell that those two are special. You know, it's hard at that age. You don't know who's going to end up where you see McDavid, where he ended up and saying kind of has found his way or finding it lately. But playing in Windsor, my dad was obsessed with Surgut.

Yeah. I mean, the way he skated, how powerful he was a shot, his attitude.

The Chipin Serguei is a absolute beauty. I'm so happy for man. What a playoffs. He had to be as fun to watch. Great player.

So I don't want to bring up what maybe was a bad memory. But I saw you the first overall pick in the second round, like said, going into that draft drafted you. Were you kind of planning on being a first and how did that go?

Yeah, that's something that I don't mean to be a dick. No, no, that was that was one of the hardest things I ever had to deal with. And plenty of kids don't get drafted to the NHL.

So who am I to say that? But I made my dad promise because I knew there was a chance I was like supposed to be a late first rounder. So I knew, like, I could slip a little and go, like, right on that line. So I made my dad promise. Like, he's like, all right, we got to have all these people in town. Let's do your party on Friday night and the second round of Saturday morning.

And he's like, Breggin, you're going to round.

And then I go to interviews or whatever, and like a couple of teams didn't even interview me. They were picking, like, late. And they were like, I, I think it was Lou in in in Jersey.

He basically was like, I forget who it was, but someone was just like, you're not going to be there.

Put your feet up. Let's just talk, like, relax. We're not going to get a chance to pick you. We love you as a kid, but let's we'll talk for future years.

And I'm like, OK, so I feel pretty good going into it. And then, you know. To sit there and then Jersey like the last pack and it's 30 and I'm like, OK, like San Jose was like twenty seven, I really wanted to go to like one of my dad's old teams or like I knew kind of those sections and I felt like I had really strong interviews. Colorado take like twenty three and I just went by them all.

And then finally Jersey comes like when they didn't take me I was like, oh my God. Like I have to turn or walk up these stairs. And I was like, whoa, I'm like, this is the most embarrassing thing I've ever done in my life. And and like so I turn walk up the stairs and I just remember getting on that bus and just like like a bunch of the GMs, we waited for them and they had to get on the same bus.

And I was like sitting there like, these guys just didn't take me. I was like one.

I was worried my dad was going to soccer, one of them. And two, I was like I was like, mortified.

And then so we go whatever.

And the next day, you know, we have the party that night, which was terrible. And Dale Arsdale always was. He was there like I remember I think I was crying and Dale was like there to use their for me and J.R. and my dad and all those guys were all around and they're like, you're going to go early tomorrow. And Buffalo, like, kind of grabbed my dad at the hotel and said, we're going to pick him first tomorrow.

And so my dad came and told me that in the morning on the way to the next.

So the draft on the bus and I looked at the I write down, believe you this time I looked at him and I'm like, I won't use the word, but I was like, f off.

And I go, oh, my God.

And I was serious about it, too. And so we get there and I'm like, slow walking into this place. I'm like, oh, here we go again. Like, I'm back. I hate this place.

And walked in and I literally sat down ten seconds later. And the second round sucks so much because it's like it's not like you go up on stage.

It's like frenulum by the time I take three steps, you know, the key to your back, it's like, it's like where's my jersey.

They're like you get a t shirt like you, you get it, you don't get a jersey, you get a T-shirt. Yeah.

You get to shake the PR guy's head and you don't to get to meet the staff, you know, say hi to Batmen. You go to say I have Bettmann businesses. Security comes flying over and you don't get a jersey.

You actually get this Tulk admittance. Buffalo's called joyo.

Yeah.

So that was but you know, once you're packed and you and you get through the whole process and you feel, you know, you really do forget about that that whole first day.

So it was awesome. And I was excited. But that first night was tough enough already.

I was going to let you hop in there. Yeah. We were talking about your first contract that you didn't sign a buffalo, but right now you're an Arafeh. I'm assuming you don't want to go anywhere. You want to be a ranger for the foreseeable future. No.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm excited, I'm sure we'll get something done, some done here soon, and I love it and I feel like I've really found a home as a player and as a person. I love I love the city. I love the area. And I'm very, very happy and very fortunate, very blessed to be here. And I'm really excited about our team. We've got a lot of our young skill, a lot of speed, some unbelievable players.

And, you know, Mika's have been a job and bred and, you know, this new kid we're going to get supposed to be incredible. And, you know, obviously you've got a great goalie and some great team. And it's it's exciting. Really exciting.

What are what are some Pepé stories that stand out to you about your old man and maybe some of the friendships he has? And is there anything that you could share?

Man, my dad has so many stories, it's scary.

I mean, I don't know how many I could say without getting beat up the next time I see him, but he he had some crazy jaw stories.

I mean, I think one time his coach was drunk. He locked him out of the dressing room and ran the practice himself or locked him in the dressing room. I mean, talk about like his coach telling his team to skate as fast as they can around the ice so that the other team couldn't get on the ice to go for their warm ups.

So, like they would they were flying around. So the first guy walks out, gets hammered, second guy walks out, gets hammered, third guy doesn't walk out and they don't have a warm up.

The guys were walking in the stands with their skates on concrete to try to go for a warm up to climb the glass.

I mean, like like stuff that just doesn't happen anymore.

Oh, my God.

I mean, he's got you got to be crazy or you guys. Hey, Dad, you owe me for telling me I was going first round that night. You're going for but you're going on with my buddies.

That's that's how you pay me back. He's he was. Yeah.

He would dig himself a hole I feel like on this show.

You guys you guys are too, too enticing, too easy to talk to.

The last thing I was going to ask you was, as far as, you know, playing for the Rangers, a lot of pressure associated to it. But you you thrive for the crowd like we've had on before. And he said there was nothing like it, especially when you're playing that role. And I feel like Rangers fans really embrace that type of role. It's like that blue collar guy where you emotionally have it effect on the crowd. Yeah.

I mean, like this year that that bubble thing was just brutal. You know, you don't have that, like, playing. It must be the coolest thing in the world. And to not be able to do that sucked. But I mean, I love that blue collar feel I got. You felt like you have a lot of that in Winnipeg.

And I and I really enjoyed that. Like that blue collar type fan that really fired up about hockey. New York is like you get that aspect where you get the almost Hollywood feel to like the bright lights and the city and, you know, you have stuff to do outside of hockey. But if you go to L.A., you don't get that. You don't have that same passion where, you know, these fans are diehard Rangers fans. They've been Rangers transferred.

Forty years. Fifty years. I mean, it's just it's so cool in New York. It really is the best place to play. I absolutely love, ah, like firefighter or police officer fans. It's just it's such a good feeling playing here. It really is awesome. Nothing like.

Yeah. We've got to thank you for coming on man. This was great. Especially getting a younger guy opening up about, you know, but a lot of different things and going in depth. So we appreciate you layer on your career. We'd love to have you on and we wish you the best of luck.

I appreciate it, guys. Thank you. I'm a big fan of the show, so keep it up.

Hey, by the way, I just I was just keep on your instincts. I always keep it on your Instagram. Now you got a money action left the action. What's your handicap?

Oh, I'm a fork. OK, that's like an ATM at four. But but maybe a little newspaper for me.

I'll check out sandbaggers won't do a sandbagger.

Yeah, let's do it. I'll play some golf with the boy.

I'm going to go. I'm a twenty one you guys. Twenty six. Thanks for coming on buddy.

That was awesome. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks to Brendan for coming on, man, this kid like me say he sounds like a veteran. Sounds like he's been in the league for 15 years, just a well-spoken, articulate kid, very smart, really enjoyed our chat with himself. Definitely going to get him back someday. But first, I've always wanted to learn a new language because I know you're struggling with two, but it can be intimidating, whether it's time, effort or money.

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Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Few more news items to get. So we want to send congratulations to Chris Stewart on his retirement, because I know you're buddies with him. Six hundred and sixty eight games played with seven teams over 11 seasons, 160 goals, 162 assists. I actually got to meet him all the way down Philly that night. Just a great guy came from real hard Scrabble background. Even the fact that him and his brother made it to the NHL was against the odds.

So we want to wish him the best in retirement.

Well, and he came out of nowhere. He didn't start playing hockey till I believe he was like fourteen or fifteen.

So I played a minor hockey league.

He didn't start playing till eight. I believe he was playing football and started playing maybe his first year high school or whatever.

It was the first round, first rounder. And, you know, I played against his brother growing up and I hadn't heard of his brother because he wasn't even playing to that point. And for him to have the NHL career, he did. And then he posted the picture with all the Boskell cochairs. I mean, a bit of a suitcase, kind of funny, yet eight different chairs with each team that he's played for. But amazing that he played I think he played just just over six hundred and seventy games.

And, you know, he played a solid two hundred foot game undercover. Tough to. Yeah. Shock them. Yes, he was fucking one year at twenty eight talks, he was just and like kind of secretly Tavia undercover is the perfect way to put it. We get the chance to hang with me a little bit at that St. Louis camp. We were at this where I mean, you could tell they're like guys love them and he was him and Hitch would battle.

Oh, yeah. Well, and and who else he was with hazy this year a little bit right here, because he loves the guy and he's he's he loves them and spent a ton of time with them and the guys on that team really enjoyed them.

So hopefully we can get them on at some point to talk about his awesome career and. And congrats on retirement. Yeah.

Enjoy retirement, man. Let's see the Blackhawks of a quiet forward Brendan Brandon Perry from the Golden Knights in exchange for for Dylan, Saqqara. This is kind of a swap of death. Guys going into their last year deals maybe a little change of scenery type thing. A few notes from my pal Elliott Friedman, Minnesota, asked about Big Buff, but his agent doubts he ever plays in the NHL again. Elliott also said Edmonton defenseman Oscar Left Bomb is weighing his options to deal with injuries from last season.

One possibility is surgery that would keep him out long term. Obviously, Edmonton would need to fill that spot. We'll keep an eye on that. And one other note from him going back to the ankle stuff, Elliott said the same is paid ickle a seven point five million dollar bonus this season. Seventy five percent of salary is paid. So it's absolutely senseless for them to go for this season, which I figured that was worth adding as well. And for the record, I heard the same thing, too, that the Rangers were very horny to get them obviously play on the Quinquennium fish boys from below.

But Buffalo would probably be foolish to do it. But the Rangers would do it yesterday for one.

For one. Let's call Dopey. Come on, guys. Let's get the party started.

Hey, are you still waiting for you? Still waiting for the Bruins to trade Crooge, right? Yeah. Yeah. I check back what I did. I kind of coach I should have said tomorrow.

I was told it was going to happen tomorrow, but I should have known this early.

It's going to happen within the next replug. It could be later. But I did check in with a guy a couple of days, Isaiah, and he said, you know, I mean, it could change.

The Bruins could decide to sign. But for my understanding, it's it's unlikely to happen.

You know, what I heard happened? I heard that Campanile in the boys found out in an order. Just saw you for a few days. They're holding back on it, kind of like the the Vegas Golden Knights mascot occasion. I consider that. So. I mean, it would be fucking hilarious if teams are reacting to stuff like that. But maybe if I say it, maybe they thought, you know, I was being just being a patsy for somebody who will see how it plays out, that could well be the case.

I could have been doing someone's dirty work and I've known Aura's out here cockblock and trades right now.

I love it.

He's he's given teams, he's given teams their mascots. He's blocking big deals around. He's just a powerhouse in the media game. Yeah.

Taking Bong Reps with Steve Yui, who, by the way, we just dropped a new animation on the YouTube channel. That was when we had Kirby Doc and the infamous GM meeting. I mean, we just talked to Brendon Lemieux about how he talked to some teams. I don't know what scouts were asking him in those meetings, what was happening with Pepé and the boys and J.R. But Stevi Grill and Kirby talk about doing bong reps. So check that out on our YouTube channel.

Hey, does the boys that spit in triplets want to wish you a happy anniversary?

Eleven years ago today, the day where we and you were claimed by the Coyotes off of waivers from Pittsburgh and I would change his life, change the trajectory of life, no doubt.

Very thankful when I saw that today who tweeted out Mike, Comodo is like Komeito, who's his great, great NHL historian. Yeah, he actually has a few books out, one of which Hockey 365. There's a new fun fact for every day. But what are you going to just drop?

That guy just dropped an article about Alfie Turcotte picking his nose at his son's draft. So he's all over the news. He's all over the he's on the biz. The business transaction to Arizona and the Alfie Turcotte. Was it a or was it a scratch?

That was a scratch, by the way. I don't think I've ever told a story in the podcast. So what am I first nights here? There's a guy from my local hometown. Well, in Ontario, Todd son. He was doing some minor hockey stuff.

So I actually went and met him for for a beer at this place called Candy Store was a strip club. I you know, I just got here. I didn't know what areas were good and bad areas. Well, my first experience, I go to the strip club, are outside paying for our entry, getting our IDs checked, and some guy pulls a gun on another guy. That was one of my first experience right after getting picked up off waivers on that day.

So eleven years ago, I'll never forget the candy store. And I never went back. And everyone at home listening.

They don't sleep on the fact that this clown gets picked up on waivers. As you get put on waivers, someone picks you up. That's great news. You're not going to the minors day. I got to keep you in the show for a minimum a month, but you go there looking to impress and go there, make it looking to make an impact and biz. The first night goes to rippers.

Oh, I didn't think I was going to be there long. I had no business being in the NHL and then I fooled them for five fucking years.

Is the Penguins also just put out a video of your trip to Sweden with Sydney's boys? Two.

Oh, that was the trip where that was my first introduction to the NHL, where I got to play not only my first game, but man, that when when we went to that restaurant and then how Gil lined up that little shindig upstairs, there was like fifty rockets up there. I'd never seen anything like it.

I had surgery late in the summer and I missed the start of that year. And you guys were gone for what felt like three months. And I was in my apartment just playing video games, ice in my crankin ice water.

So throwing myself around the room, I was so I was like, I there was nobody else back there. Everyone went. Nobody else was injured. I was the worst three weeks of my NHL life.

The last night we had we ended up splitting the series. Each team won a game. I've already mentioned a story about Matt Sundeen dropping the ceremonial face off and he got like an eight minute standing ovation, which like nobody cared because it was so cool how that many people were going nuts for that long. But what was the point I was going to make?

Oh, then after we finished it all up, we went out. And part of that last night, I'll never forget Darrell Qadoura doing the worm on the dance floor. But somebody had dropped the broken glass and there was glass everywhere. So he got up and he had all these different puncture holes on his white dress shirt, like with bloodstains. I was like my first experience, like my first week in the NHL. And it was like exactly the way you guys have described Bugsy on whatever it was.

Well, bids on in honor of the anniversary. I'm going to crack myself a nice Budweiser right now. I think the folks in Canada should do the same seeing as you're a Canadian.

No, absolutely. Great Segway. And we're here to talk about the Bud bubble. Now, I was given an ad read, but I could tell you all all about the bud bubble off the top of my head. It's a contest. They're throwing all Canadians only in Canada. I'm sorry for my American fans out there. You can't win this contest. But in order to commemorate sports, all four of which being played at the same time given with what's going on in the world, Budweiser decided to do a bud bubble where you could submit a very unique video.

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Definitely want to check that out. What? Yaara, you're off to a little adventure soon, right? Don't allow a little zoo, actually.

Yeah. So I got about five minutes left, boys that we the Brenan Lemieux. Awesome interview.

I think we I thought we only get thirty minutes that went long but there's like a lantern lighting at the Franklin Park Zoo.

My son loves the zoo so I don't know what the hell a lantern lighting is imagining. It's a little fall activity, little Halloween ish.

My thoughts in the zoo are kind of how do you know I'm on both sides of the fence like he loves going to the zoo, sees the animals. But you go, I feel so bad for these fucking animals. This is this lion is like on Prozac. He's so depressed. Like the no wonder the lions never do one thing. They're just laying around like they're stuck in a little. It'd be like being stuck in the loft of my house the rest of my life.

These guys should be roaming Africa, running around thirty miles an hour, chewing up a zebra. So I think tonight it'll be fun. I feel bad having to leave the podcast a little bit early, but I'll tell you right now, the zoo can be a really depressing place for adults while the kids scream and look at like a big, huge elephant.

I imagine that the elephant has to walk around where he shits for the next 40 years. It really is like some people hate the zoo.

But yeah, I think you get older when you look at it, you realize I mean, if it's a rehabilitative place where they're not near something back or it's an animal that couldn't survive in the wild. But like I think of the stones or the stop and stone him and the Black Panther and it would just pace back and forth in the cage.

Probably wasn't twenty feet. It's like that then probably the mall on its feet someday because it just went fucking crazy being in such a small enclosure and a polar bear to like polar bears should be living in stone a mess.

No disrespect to stone, but it's just not a place you should have a poem. OK, listen, I on like Nantucket, at least I'm not I'm not laughing about the scenario.

I'm off in the way you guys are describing it because it's just funny. But it is, it is big time depressing. I mean, they did that the whale one to the whale documentary, what's it called?

Which is a one about SeaWorld.

Blackfish is called Blackfish Jackson. Yeah, I like that. Shit's brutal. It's awful. And I agree with you. It kind of sucks. And I mean, I can't remember. I think the last time I was with you, it was it was in Saint Louis. We went to the zoo when we were on our PTO. Like, make your own or did we have to go do something there? No, no, we just went because we were bored.

Unless you were one of the guys that Dindo baby was like that was like the one day we separated. Yeah.

I don't think I was going to the zoo during training camp and like we got beforehand, which I probably did that camp.

Well, that's exactly what happened.

No, before I go, though, it's a shocker.

We didn't we didn't make the team. I can't believe it. What was Doug Armstrong thinking?

We're going to ask Bill Armstrong because we got him on next week and he's one of the guys who was there. So really interested to get him, you know?

So before I go, we we went golfing yesterday. I was Mique Hazy Yance and Jimmy Veazey. So we had a blast. It was a hilarious round, but I really can't go into the whole round. But we're on the fourth hole now. We got this caddy.

This is the man, but he's got no ass. I mean, it's an absolute from his shoulders to his back of his knees, a pizza box.

But like the zero definition aura, like similar fashion is sponsored by some of the other guy.

Just nothing there. So, you know, on the first tee, he was like, where this guy's bum go?

Like, Oh, guy, look over is his belt, like halfway, but, you know, down his ass, it's just like, pretty funny. So we're playing golf, playing golf. We get to the fourth tee. And I'm like standing over the ball. I was actually behind the ball trying to visualize which shot I want to hit, that I'm standing over the ball. So I'm in I'm in, like, game mode on game mode here.

And Keith says something, and I kind of wasn't even listening. And like. Three seconds later, I got the leg I Kevin Hayes is like, you know, when someone silently, like, laughing as hard as possible, but you kind of hear like a little little like what?

What did he say about me? I'm like, did he say something about me? And so I hit I actually stuff the shot.

I hit it to like four feet Mr. Pollack, a clown. But so I turned back and hazy. And now Keith's already walking the cheese ball.

He's he's still laughing so hard that now I'm laughing so hard when somebody is laughing. Like, I'm like, dude, what? And he's trying to tell me what he said, but he's not laughing too hard. He can't even get the words out. So I'm like, what my what? Or the caddie had said where he worked in the winter because he goes to another course and Keith.

He said, oh, yeah, you're down there. I heard the caddies work their ass off.

So it took a little while, it took a little while, but then what he told me that just like here, if I could have a video of him trying to just tell me what he said, oh, my goodness, it was so good, the comedic timing of this kid.

But when I got to run, I got to go see.

I knew it was going to be something ridiculous and it exceeded my expectations. That couldn't have been a better ass off at that.

All right.

So it's off to go. Free Willy, take the boy to the zoo, hopefully. Have a good time. I got to know to this is definitely a certain demographic. I know you guys aren't familiar with them, but I know we do have some listeners my age, Matt Davis, this guy is a country singer who was seemingly everywhere back on the 1970s. He passed away yesterday at 78. He actually wrote some songs for Elvis. But he actually how I know him, he started in one of the best football movies ever.

It's called North Dallas 40. It's on Amazon Prime right now. I know if you grew up watching any given Sunday, Al Pacino, that's like a football movie on steroids, no pun intended, North Dallas Fort. It was actually based on a book written by a former cowboy. The book was a quote unquote novel, but it was based on actual events and how the league was. And when you watch it now, because if you do if you do on crime, it's crazy.

It's the same issues going on now, guys getting shot up. What would take them would have Toradol, uphills to get over the pain or to just fight. And Nick Nolte, like, realize he's just a piece of meat he stays in as well. It's a fantastic movie. But anyways, Mac Davis, it was his very first movie you ever did. And I don't know how this guy didn't become a movie star because he was incredible. He was playing a version of Dandy Don Meredith, who was the Cowboys quarterback at that time.

So I just want to acknowledge that he was a guy who was, like I said, a lot of listeners probably know about him.

I could listen to you talk about movies like with talks about golf, because I could just even though I know nothing of what you're talking about, your passion for it is just radiating.

Well, what's interesting, too, is the NFL did not want them to make this movie. They wouldn't license any of the stuff because of how bad it made the league look. But two years before that, the NFL not only let a company come in, they filmed during the Super Bowl. It was a movie about a terrorist plot to blow up the Super Bowl with a Goodyear blimp. But it didn't make the NFL look bad. So they actually let the actors, Robert Shaw from Jaws is actually on the sidelines during the actual Super Bowl plays.

The NFL let them film during it about a terrorist plot to bomb the Super Bowl. They let him do that, but they would not have wanted nothing to do with this movie because, again, it made the NFL look like the scumbags we all found out they really were after all.

Yeah. The NFL is a far more cutthroat than I think any other league.

Yeah, and just this movie's 41 years old and they were telling you that nothing's changed. You know, it's it's like the Roman gladiator type shit, you know?

Yep. That's exactly what it is. I'm going a little vacay. Well, I'm going to be a working vacation. I'm going down Provincetown. This down the edge of Massachusetts. You know, Cape Cod looks like a like a like a somebody making a festival. Provincetown Way at the Edge. I've been dying to go there for years. I actually want to go after the draft after free agency and just decompress. But the ferries from Boston stop running to Columbus Day.

So I got to get down there before if I want to go. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, we've been talking about Pigtown Hour since we started this thing like three years ago. Four years ago. You've been talking about. Yeah, there I was.

I was going to and then I had to get my what it called gall bladder out that kind of torpedoed those plans. And I just haven't had an opportunity so that I would. And I got a brand new book. It's a book about the making of Goodfellas called Mad Men. It just came out. I thought, I'll finish it while I'm down there, but I just want to go out the way. Obviously, I'll do the work we need to do.

But I think we all need a little decompression. The season's over. We still got free agency in the draft.

But, you know, a little a little Aronoff of the Oldbury, I guess.

Yeah, I know. And we talked about it at the beginning of episode, how long the season's been going on, guys like we're a little burnt out like some days. Like we were not able to really think of anything entertaining to talk about. I thought today was a fun episode. We had a great interview as well. But November, we're just going to be launching our interviews. We're not going to be jumping on and, you know, talking about our lives.

We need a bit of a break. My brain's fried already. You mentioned yours and like Grindley Mad Grenelle, he's up fucking during the nights editing and all that. I highly recommend he's our hardest worker. So it's just, you know, guys, guys need a bit of a break here. We're still going to be able to get some great interviews to roll those out.

But we're you know, we're looking forward to ending this in style, though. But it's been a great year. So, yeah, I mean, we do have some content coming out as well. We mentioned the sandbaggers and, you know, we we're very grateful for our following guys. You guys have kept us going through this. The quarantine, I think, kept us all pretty hard. We try not to portray that because this is a place where you guys can't escape as well.

But, yeah, it's going to be fun to get a little time off and spend some time with me starting the game.

And I love you. And a lot of people have been asking all three in an episode any special plans. And to be blunt, we made no special plans for 100 or 200. We don't have any for 300 because we'll keep on going men like maybe 500 when we get there. But it's to me, it's just another round. No, we're going to keep on grind. And we didn't do anything for one or two. I don't see why threes any different.

So, you know, we're going to keep doing what we do. We love the support. Thank you, everybody, for the support for this year long season. And again, kudos to everybody at the NHL, NHLPA, the arena workers, the health workers, everybody involved with the bubbles. You guys did an unbelievable job and again, appears in the media. Those guys and gals did a tremendous job as well. So thanks to everybody for their tremendous work in the bubble, getting the season done.

Enjoy the episode and we will see you Monday nights.

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