Behind the Scenes Minis: Tarot and Hellhounds
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- 30 Oct 2020
Holly and Tracy talk about their experience with tarot cards and readings, and about the bad rap black dogs get. Happy Halloween to all of our listeners who celebrate it!
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Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class A production of I Heart Radio. Hello and happy Friday, welcome to Casual Fridays. I'm Holly Fry. I'm Tracy Wilson. Tracy. This week we talked about tarot cards. We sure did, which is something I've wanted to talk about for a while. And I have often walked up to the edge of it and then backed away because it is a very big topic, which I pared down a whole bunch because you can go down an avenue for days.
Do you have any tarot cards? No, not currently. I had when I was in my 20s, I had a deck and I could not tell you now what was on it. I had bought it. Probably added like like a new agey bookstore in Asheville, North Carolina would have been the source of that deck.
I'm almost certain I don't have it anymore like that.
I will, like, appreciate the visual beauty of people's deck designs, but it has not been a thing that I have felt compelled to purchase for myself since then. Yeah, it's one of those things like I have purchased a number of decks over the years or have gotten them because of the art on them. So mine are all a little bit like I couldn't read you a tarot spread to save my life, but I have like a really fun deck that is all prominent figures of Victorian England captain is pretty good.
Lots of Queen Victoria and the family. Oscar Wilde shows up all of the all the key players. I have one that is one of the most beautiful things on the planet in my opinion. It's by a company called Bobba Studio. They make these really beautiful art taro decks and it's the baroque bohemian cats. Terho So it's cats in beautiful 18th century gowns.
I think I've seen that one and I love it. And then I have a deck that is just the major arcana, but it's all Cartoon Network characters. That's also fun. So fun. And I have one that's on the way that just got released this year. That's a nightmare before Christmas. So obviously, like I'm in it for the silly art. Mm. But yeah, it's one of the things that it's, it's been interesting and one of the reasons I finally bubbled this up is because I've had a couple of friends this year mentioned that they wanted to start studying tarot practices that are more based in meditation.
Oh yeah. And how it's like a tool for meditation for a lot of people. And I was like, oh, yes, indeed. That is the thing that people do.
Yeah, I know a lot of people who will sort of pull a card as sort of their self reflection prompts for the day. Yeah, it's one of those things. Right. I always love a little kind of prompt based meditation because I'm one of those people that has a hard time with an inroad to meditation. Hmm. I'm not very still by nature. It's a little bit when people say, clear your mind, I kind of get scared. And I know most meditation in the modern era is not that.
It's just about like being with your. Being with your mind and stillness, etc., but something like that makes it a little easier for me to get in the right headspace. So I it made me think about it more. And I was like, oh, I should pull out all of those pretty decks of cards that are just sitting in a little wardrobe in my sewing room. Yeah. With beautiful books that go with them. But yeah. So this made me think about those.
I also I mean I do get very fascinated by all of the like times over the years. Right. You are a little bit younger than me, not by too much, but like I'm sure you like me growing up, probably experienced or saw people that were like, oh no, that is scary stuff. I would never touch it. Oh yeah. Growing up in my mother's side of the family in particular, there was a simultaneous fear about and fascination with things like tarot cards.
And it just makes me chuckle a little bit being like it's it's just a game. You could just play a game if you wanted tarot cards and and like Ouija boards, which similarly are like that's a game that became associated with a cult. Yeah. It says a lot about how quickly humans adapt their thinking to engage with the unknowable in a way that they it's like we all kind of want to engage with the unknowable but don't always know how. And so if someone comes up because I think this was an ancient Egyptian wisdom and magic book, we go, yes, of course.
But in any case, which is not I want to be clear if anybody, you know, does use them for divination, that's not my thing. But good, cool. Good for you. I've been to tarot card readings on occasion. They're quite fun. I enjoy them. I don't want anybody to feel like I'm mocking them. Yeah, am I. So sometimes sometimes I'm not sure what I'm going to have to talk about during our behind the scenes.
And so I was thinking this morning I was like, I have I had a reading. Oh, I definitely did. I had this like really involved tarot reading. Oh no. That was when somebody did my astrology chart. That's a whole different thing. But then I remembered a night that I was out at a place that used to be in Atlanta that is gone now called Cafe two to tango. Yeah. And I went there with a bunch of friends one night for food and cocktails and stuff, and somebody was doing tarot readings.
And I remember getting one and I have no recollection of what she said to me at all.
I had one that we did for fun at the Renaissance Festival, not the year you and I ran into each other there and had brunch, but a different time that I still look back on that particular reading with a little bit of a like. Huh?
Because there was some some insights that were a little astonishing to me at the time, not the kinds of things where like a cold reading guests would play out.
Hmm. Like it literally. She, like, laid out my cards and looked at me and said, and Brian will back me up. He was there. You have two bosses and you're caught in the middle and it's making you really miserable. And are they related? And it was a husband and wife that opened yesterday and I was like, I might go now. She was just like, I hope you quit that job soon.
And it's like me to you. Goodbye. Yeah.
I mean, for all I know, yeah. It was a very strangely good cold greeting, but yeah. And again, the art alone is like where it's at for me.
I love seeing new interpretations of Dex. So anyway, if you collect tarot cards, send me your pictures, because, you know, I always like some visuals for sure. I hope everybody is having a good October. The second episode that we talked about this week was about hellhounds demon dogs. I don't want to say devil dogs because that has the association with the military. And I don't want anybody to get confused, which is why I originally was going to call it something like that.
Then I was like, nope, nope, nope, nope. That will confuse people. They will come here for military history and they will get me just saying black shark over and over.
But they don't want that. This is one of those things where I almost put a PSA in the episode, but I'll do it here, which is that I want to make sure we recognize that, you know, things like the Black Dog Myth have not been great PR for black dogs. Yeah, regular life. If you go to an animal shelter, almost any of them will tell you that the black dogs and cats, for that matter, are the have the lowest adoption rates.
So if you are in the market for a furry friend, consider that. Get a look at look at the black dogs and kitties. They're often the sweet. Speaking as someone who has a a bonded pair of black sibling cats. They are the best. I miss having a black cat in the house we did for a long time. He has since passed on and I just I miss it. There's something very soothing to me about having a black pet.
I don't know what it is. Probably it's the lazy part of me that doesn't want to always pick cat hair off of everything that I own or dog hair, for that matter.
And I wear a lot of black, so it matches him. And now I don't have a single black pet, but it did make me want to run out and adopt a black dog and name it Black Shuk or biggest guest, because those are both great names.
This is like how after after the Witchfinder General episode, we're going to get cats named Vinegar Tom ready.
I love a good pet name. Yeah, it's interesting. I grew up with dogs. I'm an idiot with dogs. We've talked about on the show before that like I have actually been attacked by a pack of dogs and yet I see a big scary dog and I get down on the ground and go, baby, like I never learned to be careful.
I don't I know we've told this story on live shows before. I can't remember if if I've told it like on the show, on the podcast before. But when you and I were on tour last year, I think we were in Texas and we walked into our venue and a very large dog came running toward us, dragging its leash behind it. Yes. And our our reactions to this dog were not the same part of this is because I had been playing a lot of fallout.
And there you're conditioned to not dogs running at you. It's going to be a problem. But then part of it is also like I was raised in a household with a very high strung a cocker spaniel that snapped at people. Yeah. And like one of the many life lessons that my mom tried to teach me that were based on things that would definitely harm me if I ever, ever did them, was like not to pet strange dogs because this strange dog would definitely bite you and that you will get rabies and die.
So like, dogs are fine, but I, I do not get very enthusiastic about being run at by the strange dog. And then meanwhile you were like, baby, I was I literally like knelt down on the ground and held open my arms so she could jump at me. I didn't know that dog. No, my thing is always like my solution. This isn't accurate. Any behaviorist will tell you, like don't make these presumptions is always just to get down on their level because then they don't see you as threatening me.
And I presume they'll just like me.
I'm usually I do. I want to make it clear I am very that's clearly a dog that wanted to come and see us. I would not normally go just up to a random person's dog. I always ask, is it OK to to say hi to your dog? Are they allowed to be petted by people they don't know, et cetera? Right. Good dog etiquette behavior, because not all dogs are ready to meet strangers and some of them are learning to be sociable.
Yeah, we know that.
Conversely, a lot of people are not OK with having strange dogs approach them. No. Yeah, I mean, it is it is one of those things, right? I, I always am a little bit surprised when people are like, I don't like dogs because that's like going I don't like breathing. Do you not.
I mean what do you mean. Dogs are amazing. But I get it, everybody's experience is different. It's just sort of those things where my brain's initial reaction is like, whoa, now this is but there are lots of people who don't like things I like. It's fine. I don't have any dogs at the moment.
I haven't in a long time just because for a while it was a case where, like, I travel so much, our lifestyle is just not would not be fair to a dog. Sure. Sure. You know, I have friends that travel a lot and have had a lot of difficulty with their dogs being very stressed by it. And I don't want to do that to a critter. It's one of those things where, like, even during this pandemic would have been a great time to adopt a dog.
However, at this point, I have a whole lot of cats, several of whom are very old grumpy men.
They're really not that grumpy. But I also don't want to mess with their life when they're like fifty and go, hey, now you have a puppy.
They now need that.
They need to be held and kissed and spoiled.
They don't need a mix. But yes, I really, really, really am dead serious that I have to go to Rugaru first. Yeah, it looks like so much fun and like such a good casual, like, delightful way to enjoy all of the many wonders you see. Anybody listens to the show knows I love New Orleans and southern Louisiana culture and food specifically. So I'm I'm not joking. I'm coming for you. Rugaru Fest. If anyone hears this, I will be there next year if it happens.
I already went to their website and bought a. Nice. I figure, you know, it's it's a tricky year for for any kind of events like that. So anyway, I can support them. I'm happy to do it.
We hope that you guys all have a very, very safe and as delightful as possible. Halloween, if you celebrate it, if you don't celebrate Halloween, I just hope your autumn is going delightfully pure and a part of the world where this isn't autumn. I just hope you're getting by OK and everything is fine.
Yes. I think we're going to put some individually packaged Halloween treats. At our curb, so if trick or treaters come by, they could pick them up in a socially distanced way.
Yeah, we my friend Kay in San Francisco was saying she was thinking about using clothespins to just clip little tiny treat bags to a little bush outside their house, which is a smart idea because it keeps it up off the ground and yet kids can get it really easily.
Yeah, supersmart. So great idea from her that I now share with the world.
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