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Welcome to stuff you missed in History Class, A production of I Heart Radio. Happy Friday, I'm Tracy B. Wilson, and I'm Holly Frind.

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We closed out our episode on Jim Thorpe this week, a three part episode which no matter how we have arranged it, which at this point, as we're recording it, we don't know it's going to be a little awkward.

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We'll figure it out. Yeah, two episodes will be in one week and one episode in a different week. And we don't really exactly know where that's going to fall.

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But by the time folks are hearing this, it will be obvious it will have fallen. I mentioned this in the episode, but I really just find the the the story of what to do with Jim Thorpe's remains after his death to be so heartbreaking. Because, I mean, I've seen families go through. Just wrenching decisions about like how to care for a loved one who is in their last days of life or where they should be buried or how they should be buried or like some other really fundamentally important part of their last days as a living person.

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And then what should happen after their death? And then with Jim Thorpe, that family dispute is just complicated by. All of this history of like federal Indian policy and reservation land and all of this stuff coming together, so it's like something that's already just such a sad disagreement within a family, especially since it seems like everyone was on a like of the same mindset or that most of them are on the same mindset at first. And that gradually shifted like having that can be complicated by something that includes, you know, federal nagara legislation.

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It's just so hard. And also, I think, really important to talk about, because when we've talked about Nachbar on the show before, we have been talking about remains that like someone's immediate next generation descendants, we're not still living a lot of the time. Right. So questions sometimes about what what the next step should be sometimes felt a little bit more theoretical, like still critically important to the people involved, but not so much a family of brothers and sisters not agreeing with whether their father's soul was at peace, which was like part of this.

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Yeah, it it's I think it's a as you said, it's important to talk about because it provides a really good not in the sense of enjoyable, but a really strong illustrative example of how complex this whole thing becomes. Hmm. I had a moment during listener mail for this episode where we were talking about cataloging. I had such a flashback because, you know, I worked for a university library for a decade as like a paraprofessional. I worked in cataloging and was tight with the EC2 manual.

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And I had a just a moment of thinking about and reflecting on how libraries break down cataloging in archives. And that's seems, in my limited experience, to be a little more even than other industries, which is interesting in terms of the men to women ratio. Yeah, I've read several really interesting articles about fields that were regarded as being women's work that became professionalized and then became male dominated. And I had not thought at all about that, the relationship of that to like these glass plates at Harvard and the fact that the people who had been curating those plates, like I was totally thinking about the fact that the people who had been curating those plates, like the first one, was literally hired from being a housekeeper.

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Like that part I had thought of, but I had not really thought so much about as the collection progressed and as curation progressed as a field, how that affected the gender of the people working with the collection and what the balance there was like.

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So I was really glad to get that email, have a chance to talk about it.

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I also hope that people have not found the experience of having a three part podcast to be on.

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But like I said at the beginning, I was really expecting a two parter when I sat down and that I had I had a completed draft of the whole thing when I kind of went, oh, man, this is this is three. This is three.

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I remember you pinging me and telling me how long each of your two were.

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And I was like, oh, boy, yeah. I was like, we're getting into our long episode territory. Yeah. Which is, you know, once in a while they, they run longer. But I think if we had two hour long hours back to back one, those get very hard to record because we get very tired.

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Yeah. And to you know, it just messes with the the usual flow a bit. Yeah. Well and I also felt like splitting it into three. Also let us spend a little bit more time on context.

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Some of it is context we've talked about before, like our episodes on the foreshore, Indian school girls basketball team and the occupation of Alcatraz in particular have walked through some of the same things. But at this point, there's episodes are also well enough in the past that people haven't necessarily heard them. People who aren't already familiar with that history or did not personally live through that history don't necessarily have it all at the top of mind. So having it as a three part, I thought gave us three really nice acts about these phases of Jim Thorpe's life and then also a little bit more time to spend on some of the other contextual pieces.

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Tracey, this week we talked about Joe Point set in the poinsettia. We sure did. The first thing I want to do is ask you and you mentioned it to me, I can't remember if it was in the show itself. How did you pronounce poinsettia growing up? Poinsettia. Me too. So did my husband.

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Yeah, I think a lot of people in the South do that. Like, that was like just how everybody said it when I was growing up was poinsettia. Yeah, same there is an organization in Atlanta called the Atlanta. Radio, theatre company that does a I don't know if they're doing it this year because of the pandemic, but like they have generally done a holiday show that includes lots of different Christmas and winter holiday stories. And there's one about it's like a fictionalised thing about about the poinsettia.

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And I don't even remember what the what the point of the story is. But like the person who does the voice for it says point that in this like, very stylized way. And so a lot of times when I'm saying poinsettia, the way I've always said it's something in my head is going poinsettia.

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I love it. I mean, I did in looking it up, there are people who will still say it is perfectly acceptable to pronounce it that way.

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I looked it up before we started and Miriam Webster had poinsettia listed as the name and then I can't remember what it was like. Non-standard point.

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Yes, exactly. Exactly. Well, do I want to say my non-standard pronunciation that I've said my whole life in this episode so that we can get emails from people asking, why do we say it wrong?

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Well, and I will say this as well. I even learned spelling of it completely incorrectly growing up. Really like I literally have somewhere in a note in a relative's handwriting who I will not out Pouye in t s e t t a point, etc.. There's a T and a place.

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I didn't expect it because it doesn't exist. But it's one of those things where it's not a common enough word that, like it might necessarily appear on a spelling test for a kid. So if you're only getting it from relatives, I spelled that thing wrong four years before I actually saw in print somewhere in.

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Wait, hold the phone. That's amazing. I love this story. I will say I love poinsettias so much. When I got married, we were very poor. So to do our wedding, which was in a movie theater, I went to Home Depot and I bought a hundred poinsettias because they were cheap and we lined the whole theater with them. And then as the guests left, they could just pick one and take it home with them. And that was like both our decor and the favor as a cost cutting measure.

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But I have people who kept those things for years. I don't know if any of them are still alive. I also combined decor in favors.

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It's the easiest thing to do, both from a just a logistical perspective. And it it just prevents wasting cash. Right.

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Right. We were also going to talk about animals. Mm hmm.

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I didn't go super deep on the research, but I did see in several places nurseries mentioning, hey, there was this paper that came out decades ago that claimed that these were super duper poisonous, that got propagated everywhere. And it's not actually true. But I didn't actually hunt down all the science. I just saw an awful lot of reputable places going. That's just not so true yet. I feel like I had heard that long in the past, but had since heard it and replaced more like maybe an irritant.

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Right. Like if your cat likes to eat, plants might not be great. Yeah. And even at our wedding I originally wanted poinsettia blossoms like on the serving tables and on the cake and both the cake lady and the the people doing set up were like, you cannot do that, it's too poisonous. And I was like, oh ok.

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OK, OK. Oh, all right, fine.

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But I still love them. This was an eye opener of an episode for me. I had not really looked deeply at Joel Point sets career like I knew he was a statesman and had brought the poinsettia to the US. I did not know that Mexico had an entire word gradation for him.

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Yeah. Which I was telling a friend of mine who speaks Spanish because she was helping me work through some of these and she had not heard it either. It was like we're using that forever going forward. Right? I was like, yes, we are.

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I like that plan. Foradil points at your point, settees. Oh, I have been to both Charleston and Greenville, South Carolina. And I, I just I it's totally possible that I saw various commemorative markers and that statue, but man, I have no recollection of it whatsoever. Bump, bump. You blocked it out.

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I knew I had sort of a precognition that it was going to turn out. I got on everybody's nerves in Mexico real bad.

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So if you would like to write to us about how you pronounce poinsettia or poinsettia or whether or not you recall seeing any jewel points, that marker's, you could do that at History podcast it I heart radio dot com. We hope you have a wonderful weekend. And you can always subscribe to the show on the radio app, but Apple podcast or anywhere else you listen to.

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