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Right there, Wookey, that is me messing with Sasquatch. It sounded more like Frankenstein from Sarah alive. I remember that. I love that Frankenstein, Tonto and Tarzan Tarzan classic skit.

Have you seen the commercials messing with Sasquatch? Yeah. Jack thinks it's pretty funny. Yeah, all of them are.

It's one of my favorite spots, actually. Well, it contradicts eyewitness reports that paint Bigfoot is kind of a benign, shy creature.

Yeah, not as far as Jack Lynx is concerned.

He goes aggro when you when you mess with him. I guess that's what it is. So I have an actual intro for this one. All right. Let's hear. We're talking Bigfoot very recently. There are some enormous, huge news. And we should probably preface this one. Like, if you are a skeptic, don't worry, we're going to give your side of this, too. But we have found over the years that it's very respectful to give voice to both sides.

We try to. Yeah, and we're not insulting you by speaking the other person's side. No. Well, express your side as well. And when we do that, we're not insulting the other side. Yeah. And at the end of day, it's about Bigfoot.

So let's not get so worked up. Calm down. You know, it's all just fun.

There is a a a self professed veterinarian with 27 years experience, including Forensic's named Dr. Melba Ketchum, Melba Ketchum, and she supposedly, she claims, got her hands on some samples of Bigfoot hair, OK, and has been testing it, running genetic tests on it, and recently announced and wrote a paper that's under peer review as it stands now that she she managed to isolate three separate nuclear DNA. OK, that came from three separate groups.

So one is the nuclear DNA, remember? So you have nuclear DNA is the mixture of the mother's in the father's DNA. OK, mitochondrial DNA is strictly from the mother. OK, so the researcher found the nuclear DNA came from a human. Bigfoot, which is a hybrid of the human, and this third species, a non-human species, doesn't know what it is yet, but supposedly that's what this hair sample showed, really.

And this is just now, right, yeah, I believe they made this announcement like in late November, early December, which is now under peer review. It is under peer review. That doesn't mean that it's going to pass peer review. She submitted the paper for peer review. Now, she said that the the mitochondrial DNA in the sample was human, which means that this third thing, Bigfoot, is the product of a female woman and a this non-human species, the mystery species reproducing in forming Bigfoot.

And she says that she isolated it to about 15000 years ago. Wow. Now, anybody who's followed Dr. Ketcham's career can poke holes all in this. There was apparently I read an early draft of the paper that she said this third this third species was an angel. And people skeptics love beating up on people like this. But my hat is off to her for, first of all, undergoing this. Sure. Using the scientific method to root out the unexplained.

That's extremely 40 in nature. And I love that stuff. Yeah.

And then secondly, to put it up for peer review and to face that that kind of criticism, the one of the big problems that she she isn't saying like where the sample, how she knows this is a sample of Bigfoot DNA. She didn't say where she got it. Not not that I could find.

And I actually saw in one article that she's not saying where it where it came from.

So, yeah, there's a lot of holes in it. But if you wanted big current Bigfoot news, that's about as big as it gets. That's right. Not quite as current as our our own, uh, law officer here in Georgia said last year or the year before.

The one up in North Georgia. Yeah. I mean, with his freezer, I was I didn't follow that very closely.

I'm going to go ahead and say that I really want to believe in Bigfoot or not want to believe I want to I want there to be a Bigfoot. I don't think there is that made you want to believe in Bigfoot, but I still want to I want to believe it's out there because it's just it would be so cool. And whenever I saw that story, the sheriff and I think he's a sheriff's deputy in north Georgia, it was a hoax, of course, but he said he had a body in a freezer and they showed pictures of this, uh uh, you know, it was in a gorilla suit.

Right.

That sort of ended up being and it had guts like animal entrails. But it looked like initially like, oh, man, that looks like a dead Bigfoot. Yeah. And you look closer and it's like a suit that you can get online.

I wish I had that kind of time to do stuff like that. Yeah. Apparently it portrayed a hoax.

Apparently they were trying to drum up potential business for leading Bigfoot tours in North Georgia.

That's a sound way to do it until you get found out and then ultimately either retire or get fired.

Known as a law enforcement officer, they still work. Oh, well, OK. He lost his day job, is what you're saying.

Yeah. Yeah. You can't do stuff like that if you're a cop. You can't pull a hoax. No, you can't pull a hoax and try and snow people for money. It's not that's not legal.

I don't know that it is illegal to to snow people for money to promise them something that's not true.

And this guy says that he call it fraud. No, it's a hoax. There's a big difference between fraud and a hoax.

If he had the business, it would be fraud. No, that would be like if he promised that you were going to see Bigfoot, not a Bigfoot tour, but he said you're going to see Bigfoot on this tour and he didn't. Then you could get him for.

I think you would still be fraud if he founded that business and advertised it on a false premise, which is I found this thing. Look at it.

Yeah, I see your point. Yeah, he's a jerk. I say, let's let's talk about Bigfoot.

This guy up in North Georgia is pretty far from the only person to pull a declared Bigfoot hoax. What keeps this thing going is that there's some stuff out there that's considered this body of evidence of Bigfoot existence that hasn't been definitively debunked and or proven right now. One of the other things that I think people who are believers in Bigfoot, like the ones that are out there, like looking for Bigfoot and believe in Bigfoot. Yeah. One of the things that keeps them going also is this correlation between Bigfoot sightings among people of European descent and Bigfoot legends of Native American tribes long before the Europeans ever got here.

Yeah, and if you if you look at the names of these different tribes have and take a step back, you're like, wow, these tribes were all over the place somewhere in the Pacific Northwest, somewhere in Florida, somewhere in the north, northeastern United States, in eastern Canada. Yeah. And all of them have this weird, tall, giant, hairy man legend that they have a name for. Yeah.

Even though they're, you know, geographically scattered all over the place. And it's possible that these all of these different legends share a single common ancestor that is further back, maybe located on the steps of Eurasia.

Yeah, but it's also kind of noteworthy that they all have different legends for sure.

Himalayans, even the Yeti, the snow man right in Asia, very popular. Apparently. You hear that one more than you see it. Yeah. Which I didn't know. But we should call this thing Sasquatch because that is the most common name they use nowadays.

And even though some of the names from Native American tribes, when they go, hmm, yeah.

Yeah, that's great. Omar Rugaru and Books. Is some of the names at this gone by Native American law, but Sasquatch Sasquatch comes from. I have no idea how to pronounce that.

It looks like shock. Any that that word in another word from the area around British Columbia were similar enough that in the 1920s, a white schoolteacher named J.W. Burns coined the term Sasquatch. And it's basically it's the umbrella term for any Bigfoot like man.

Right. So we should even though these sightings have varied in their description over the years, there are a few hallmarks that pop up.

One is that this is a tall beast between seven and 15 feet, which is 15 feet is enormous. Yeah, I haven't most of the ones I've heard of between like seven and eight feet. Have you seen Troll Hunter?

I saw that recently, actually.

That first troll that they watched the guy zap and turn to stone, that thing was about 15 feet tall. That's huge. Yeah, that was a pretty good movie by 10 feet. No way. 15 feet. No. Yeah. Did you like them? Oh, Trauner was excellent. Yeah.

I kind of got it kind of wore on me toward the end if I was a little long, but it was pretty cool. Yeah.

The imagination that it used was just beautiful.

Totally agreed. Getchell hundred people. Yeah. It walks on two legs. That's a big one. Was that bipedal that what they say. Mm. It's upright and has a loping gait. Um you seen that elf right. The movie Elf. Yeah.

The one shot where they mimic the uh the famous sixteen millimeter film. Oh yeah. Where it says Will Ferrell in Central Park and they like have that from frame three, 52 of the 60 millimeter film.

It's pretty funny. So Will Ferrell is doing this. Yeah.

It says, like, you know, the strange elf was seen wandering through Central Park and they they mimic that.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's Will Ferrell. Sure. Yeah, that was very good. And long, reddish fur, that's a big one, reddish brown, that's and that's really interesting that it's that Sasquatch is typically described as having long reddish brown fur. Yeah, that's a really specific thing for everybody. And again, it's possible that, like people have heard other reports and said, you know, that's what they're expecting to see. Sure.

Or that's what they're reporting because that's what Sasquatch has. But it's still a significant.

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I just think that's just something. Some animal making a strange sound that I've never heard. Right.

Because you live in the city. That's right.

Supposedly, this Sasquatch also has sort of a man like Face and reports from either being really, really, really smelly to not smelling at all. Oh, yeah.

That's not in this article. I forgot about how smelly Bigfoot supposed to be. Yes, supposedly. I've heard that many times.

They're also supposedly very wary of people, but also at the same time intensely curious. Yeah. About us. And a lot of people who have made eyewitness reports say that they weren't scared, which is weird.

Yeah, most people say that, like, I didn't feel threatened. Right.

And that kind of jibes with most Native Americans legends about Bigfoot. Yeah. That it was it's a benign creature. And often it has intellect and it's given spiritual powers in Native American law. So it wasn't something to be afraid of.

Right. Sasquatch sasquatches, your friend? Yeah, they usually are by themselves. But there have been reports of several of these sasquatches hanging out together and chatting. Yeah.

But for the most part, they're usually alone, right? Yeah. So you put all this together and you've got like a pretty good common. It's like the AKC breed for Sasquatch.

These are its characteristics. I love it, OK, if you take this at face value, which you should, sure, if you're a skeptic, you should always look at things at face value, not just immediately dismiss it or pooh pooh it.

Yeah, try to get to the bottom of it. And that's what we're about to do now. The first question is, could a creature that matches this description possibly exist?

Yeah, and it's important when considering this to point out that we have never, despite all the sightings and little of still shots and film clips and audio clips, there's never been any conclusive evidence. They've never found bones or anything like that. A lot of footprints and stuff like that. Yeah. So moving forward, could this exist perhaps in the giganto pithiness? Right.

Because that's a creature that actually did exist at some point. And it says here in the article that the gigantic pithos pithiness, which is the largest primate in the fossil record. Yeah. Lived between one and nine million years ago. Actually, I saw an article that had updated that to about 100000 years ago, which meant that humans and gigantic epiphysis lived side by side.

Have you seen this thing? I have. Looks like a Bigfoot, you know. Yeah.

And like, oh, well, I guess if someone saw that in the woods, I would think it was a Sasquatch. Right. It lived in Southeast Asia. Yeah. Or in Central Asia. And it's a relative of the orangutan.

Yeah. Big time. So it looks a lot like one.

Yeah. This is extremely interesting stuff, in case you didn't know, because orangutans for starters, have reddish hair. Reddish orange hair. Yeah. So that's one connection to giganto Petrakis.

Yeah. They got the long arms like that. Yeah. They walked upright about 10 feet tall. Yeah. Usually about twelve hundred pounds. And since orangutans are the closest modern relative giganto pithiness it, it makes sense to kind of look at them, look at their behavior. Does it match Bigfoot stuff. Yeah, they have teeth similar to humans so that could account a little bit for the man like look that people often talk about make occasionally will make a loud howling calls.

Yeah. That sound odd to other orangutans.

Another thing that kind of separates them too, aside from being Asian, whereas most primates are African. Yeah. Is that they tend to live solitary lives. Yeah. So they don't aggregate in groups. They live by themselves mostly.

OK, so chalk one up for the Bigfoot enthusiast. Yeah. Again they're like OK, well that's, it's gigantic pithiness.

Uh, they live a long time and because they are widely dispersed they may not even see other orangutans for many long stretches.

Right. So of course they may not see a human either. Exactly, you know, and if they're intellectual or if they have intellect as people who believe in Bigfoot like to point out, they would be able to successfully hide from humans, probably. Sure. Especially if their habitat was the woods in the mountains.

Yeah. And so you put all that together that they have a long lifespan, meaning there's not a lot of them dying frequently. Yeah, they live they're spread out population wise. Yeah. And they tend to live in remote geographic regions that if you add all that up, it's a pretty good reason why you wouldn't have found any bones.

Yes, because bones can decay in the wild like that between five and 10 years. And the author of this was just the grab store. This is Tom Harris.

Tom Harris he's given to. He is good. Um, he points out that the people have never gone on Bigfoot bone hunting expeditions.

So, like, people aren't looking for these things, so they may not have found him.

Well, yeah, there is a guy actually who's looking for Bigfoot, his Idaho state anthropology professor. And he has he's crowdsourcing a blimp.

Yeah.

To hunt for Bigfoot with thermal imaging cameras and stuff like that and needs 300 K. And if you're interested in it, you can check out that. I thought it was. But he's got his own website called Falcon Project, and that's what he's trying to do with it. So there is at least one person trying to do a rigorous scientific hunt for Bigfoot.

But I mean, there's all kinds of groups looking, right? Yeah, there's even a show on Animal Planet, one of our Discovery Channel stations, one of our I would call it a sister station, but sure, we're not a station.

One of our colleagues and it's what's it called, finding Bigfoot. Yeah. And these people are out there hunting Bigfoot. And I've even watched bits of it because I just think it's cool and interesting.

And, uh, it's kind of a fun little show. So I recommend it.

And we weren't even asked to plug that.

I'm just plugging it could go, you know, um, do you have a possible link between the orangutan? Yeah, right. And Bigfoot. And that link might be giganto pithiness. Right. Question is still remaining.

How to check in a Pickersgill here.

Well, we walked over the uh. Was it the land bridge. Yeah. Bearing Land Bridge.

Yes. Yeah. Just like we did. I sure hope not you and me but you know.

Well that's one theory. But the big problem here, Chuck, is the absence of proof doesn't prove anything. The fact that we haven't found bones, even though you can explain it, we still haven't found any bones.

It doesn't mean that something exists. And that's a it's a big problem in this debate. You can also point to, though, very happily, the coelacanth.

Yeah, uh, the coelacanth was thought to have gone extinct 65 million years ago. It's a fish thought to have gone extinct in the late Cretaceous period. And then they found it swimming off the coast of Africa in 1938. So you can point to that and say it's entirely possible that giganto pithiness survives somehow. And we just didn't know.

Yeah, and scientists are they'll point out that there are all kinds of creatures that are still undiscovered, but most of them are sea creatures.

And that makes sense, too, because we don't spend very much time under the sea. No, we don't. Um, whereas, you know, we spend a decent amount of time in the woods. Yeah.

Um, OK, so if you're a skeptic, everything we just said probably made the hair in the back of your neck bristle in irritation. And here's why.

Because like we said, the absence of proof doesn't prove anything to us. And it's entirely possible that all of this evidence, this body of evidence is just basically a bunch of independent hoaxers. Yeah. Fooling a bunch of people over time. Yeah.

Or innocent mistaken identity. They're not all hucksters. Some people have perhaps gotten confused about things. Sure. Said, boy, that mangy bear doesn't look right.

That's standing up on its back legs too. Yeah. Or the recent photo there was that still image captured at night and that's what they said it was. It was a mangy bear. But that thing was kind of weird looking. I think I saw that one. Yeah. It was like a Neiderman shot and it was on it was on for like or for you know, I don't know if their arms or what, you know, it looked odd, but they you know, they explained it away as a mangy bear.

Sure. Um, but yeah. Lots of hoaxes over the years. Yeah. And if you go into the woods and you're even the least bit familiar with any kind of Bigfoot lore and you see something that possibly fits it, you may be the victim of wishful thinking or being impressionable or what have you. Yeah, that's a that's a pretty good accusation. A skeptic can level against somebody who reports a Bigfoot sighting.

Sure. In the first. And easiest way to hoax someone to pull a hoax on someone is the old fake footprint. Yeah, not too hard to do. You make a fake foot, you wear it on your feet and you perhaps run along in the woods, maybe lope, maybe leap to make the footsteps, you know, the gate, correct? Right. And then you make a plaster mold of it. The problem with these is so many over the years that it's like clear that they're hoaxes because this one has two toes.

This one has claws. This one has eight toes. And, you know, people aren't getting together on these and making them consistent. Yeah, probably the most contentious bit of Bigfoot evidence was that 16 millimeter film you mentioned that was made in 1967 by a guy named Roger Patterson, the Patterson Gumline film. And it's from Bluff Creek, California. And basically it shows Bigfoot walking across a basically a clearing into the woods. And Bigfoot is aware that he's being watched and he turns and looks at the camera like he said, Will Ferrell didn't help.

Yeah. And I remember years ago, like watching this. And when I was back in my time life books phase. Sure, I believe anything. Just tell me. Yeah. Yeah. And they were saying that one of the reasons that this thing was so convincing that it was Bigfoot was that when he looked over his shoulder, rather than looking with just his head, just turning his head, Bigfoot turns his whole shoulder and torso. Yeah. Along with his head, which is something that a primate would likely do.

And non-human primates. Yeah.

Or someone in an ape suit wearing shoulder pads, possibly.

That's another possibility, too. They also point out that Bigfoot walking with his knees bitten this. It's another sure sign of primate, whereas I did that today.

By the way, is it hard? Well, it's not the easiest thing, but what it makes you do is sort of lope along with a kind of a funny gait, eloping gait.

Yeah, yeah. That's that's something that Bigfoot enthusiasts point to, is that this thing was walking with knees bent. And I didn't realize this until I read this in the article that humans lock their knees with each step. Yeah, we don't walk with our knees bent. Yeah. And then also the lastly that the the creature's fur is clearly rippling like the skin beneath is rippling and like some costume, some ape suit isn't going to do that on its own.

Yeah. Put all this together.

And if you're a big believer, this is irrefutable evidence that there is such thing as Bigfoot.

If you're a skeptic, you can shoot a hole in all of those, can't you? Sure. Since this film came out in 1967, it's been like the most reviewed and made fun of or backed piece of evidence ever for Bigfoot or Sasquatch. And, um, Roger Patterson, it turns out, was making trying to make a movie about Bigfoot. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So he wasn't just some guy out there that happened to have a camera.

Yeah. He was trying to put together a film. Since this has come out, there have been various people. One guy came out and said, you know what, I made the suit for him. He paid me a thousand bucks to make him the suit.

Well, the guy who supposedly did make the suit is never admitted to.

Well, now there's a bunch of guys that's not the same guy. There's Chambers. And then there's this other dude. They aren't the same people. That's why it's it's kind of hinky because multiple people have claimed the made the suit. This one guy says that he was the guy in the suit and but his suit story didn't match up with the guy who claimed he made the suit, didn't match up with his suit story. But then people said, you know what, Patterson could have altered that original suit to match the guy who said he was in the suit.

Right. Then there's Chambers who other people say it made the suit, but he says he didn't make the suit.

Well, it's a long standing Hollywood rumor that actually John Landis, the director of American Werewolf in London, came out in and said, yeah, this is true. When he was a young pup, he was working at one of the studios and he became friends with John Chambers, who did the ape suits for Planet of the Apes, which came out right around that time, right? I think so. And he had heard that Chambers had done this and he befriended Chambers and said, yes, it's true.

This is John Chambers. And Chambers never has never taken credit for it. Right. It's never come out and said, yeah, I did it. But if you ask the average special effects guy or makeup guy these days, if you show them that, they're like, yes, this is APESMA. There's a water bag underneath. It's making the skin ripple. And I like. That's a guy. That's a man. Right. I watched it again today like five times.

Yeah, me too. It's really neat. Yes, it's kind of fun. I mean, just the detail they went into, like the the the crooked legs. The bent knees. Yeah, the shaky cam.

Like, it looked like one scared and discovering something.

Yeah, it was it's perfect. If it's a fraud is perfect because think about it. The thing was shot in 1967. Yeah. It's 2013 and people are still debating whether or not it's authentic. Oh yeah.

And it's gone through lots of rigorous testing by people that study whether or not the film was tampered and they have determined that nothing was tampered post shooting. Right. If it was anything that was done in an ape suit and they really went out there in the woods and shot it. Sure.

Uh, but like I said, this is all just kind of fun to me. People get so worked up over this, I don't get it, you know. Yeah. What's the harm? Unless someone's, like, defrauding people out of money.

You know, um, there are people who dedicate their careers to this.

There's a woman named Kathy Moskowitz Strain, and she is a forest archaeologist for the U.S. Forestry Service who basically became an anthropologist and an archaeologist so that she could for Bigfoot.

Yeah, and she's very respected, even among skeptics who counter all of her arguments. But she is very much searching for Bigfoot and has been for many years.

And she believes or just wants to get to the bottom of it. She believes that there's a Bigfoot, that there's another species out there, some primate species. That is what we call Sasquatch or Bigfoot.

Yeah, the arguments against like to me, if you can't say something like, well, somebody would have definitely seen it, Mike, by now and proven it like, you just can't say that, like the Pacific Northwest is so vast that an animal could probably hide if there was only a few of them left.

From people, you know. Yeah. But on the other hand, you also, like, can't say it exists because of this these hoaxes and these sounds and. Right. Like you need some sort of like scientific evidence. I agree. Bones. Bones would help.

You do need that unless you're just enjoying thinking about it. Yeah. Um, another thing you can enjoy is kind of related is watching the Mystery Science Theater, 3000 of the legend of Boggy Creek to see seen that one. It's arguably the best episode. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. It's hilarious. Strong stuff, but it's related.

It's based on a Bigfoot like creature. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, Tom points out, too, that the reason people want to believe in stuff like this is the same reason some people want to believe in aliens that, like the sense of adventure, is seemingly lost these days. There's nothing new to discover.

And if we could just discover a Bigfoot, that would be so huge and so monumental. Um, and I get that that's probably why I want to believe, you know. Yeah. It would rock the world of science. Oh, it totally would. But then we'd put it in a zoo. Yeah.

Poke it with electricity. We humans. Yeah. Um, all right.

Well, uh, let's see if you want to learn more about Bigfoot. You can type that word into the search bar at HowStuffWorks. Um, there's an adorable picture of a baby orangutan in this article. You want to check that out? That's big hottie and it'll bring that up. And since I said search party, it's time to listen to me.

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Uh, Josh Chuck and Jerry Akl. Chuck Tranh. My name is Jimmy Griffeth from Lenore South North Carolina All-In-One American accent I'm originally born in Brazil, uh, a relatively young listener, and after listening to our metalworks, reminded me of a story from my college days. I used to know these identical twin brothers that went to Appalachian State with me. You know, it goes on at school. Yeah. They beat Michigan, a bunch of hippies. Which party kids?

Sure had friends that went there. Uh, at one time, one of them was having unexplained hallucinations. See what I mean? And other weird psychological issues. The twin with hallucinations fear that he might have schizophrenia, but that did not make sense since his identical twin did not share the symptoms. As I understand, if one had the disorder, the other would also have it.

Since they are identical, I'm not sure if that's true is probably like a percentage fail. I think it's automatic.

After dealing with this issue for a little while, the twin with hallucinations decide to see a doctor and after running a few blood tests, tested positive for meth. It's made no sense since he had never used meth. After a few questions about the daily routine, they found out that most of what they did was similar, except one of the twins preferred to take baths, the one suffering hallucinations and the other preferred showers. Uh, this led to further investigation of the rental house.

They looked and they found out there was a high concentration of meth on the bathtub, on the porcelain of the bathtub, which indicated whoever lived there previously made meth in the bathtub, as you would expect, they shut down the house. The twins moved out cleaning crew with hazmat suits moved in.

The twin with the issue seems to have hallucinations involuntarily. He says, I don't know. I feel the need to point that out. And he came back to his old self. Just want to share that. We'll be having a great week someday. I hope to visit the studio in Atlanta and meet Jerry. Yeah, and that right here is Jimmy Griffeth from North Carolina, originally from Brazil. Dude, thanks. Thanks, Jimmy. We hope you're having a good week, too.

And we're glad your friend turned out OK. Yes. You imagine you tested for meth. That's like Ellen. Yeah. Testing positive for poppy seed. Bagel opium. Yeah. Ah, poppy seed heroin. Yeah. Good stuff that was just so. Um, yeah, that's a good one for that cycle. Yeah, yeah, I have one.

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