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The New York Times, a former newspaper, has launched an attempt to restore the career of master journalist and Batur Jeffrey Toobin, Toobin, a New Yorker writer and CNN legal analyst, was suspended from both jobs after he was caught with his pants literally down. Rubin is Tubin during a Zoome call with other left wing journalist colleagues, some of whom use the pronoun she and her. Because they're women, the Tubin Ruben Tubin is apparently exempt from the Mi Tubin movement because of all his great left wing journalism, like the time he knocked a girl up who wasn't his wife and then tried to stiffer on the child support payments.

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His other left wing journalism includes relentlessly attacking Donald Trump's morals and yanking his crank. During his meeting, the writers at The New York Times have sympathy for Toobin because they also practice left wing journalism, though hopefully they do it off camera in the privacy of their own homes. Indeed, many at the Times believe that after all the great left wing journalism Toobin did at The New Yorker, he shouldn't be penalized just because he did it once when ladies were present.

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The question is if Jeffrey and his Toobin are to be allowed to work again, what job would be suitable for a man who plays with himself on camera? One idea is that he might become a legal analyst at CNN. He could think of the Xoom call as a sort of audition or he could become Louis C.K., his opening act, or he could run for governor of New York, kill thousands through pure incompetence, then write a book about how great he is and win the Emmy for best.

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Jeffrey Toobin. But whatever is next for the Tubin, Ruben Toobin, I think we've all learned an important lesson. One should always treat women with respect and perform sexual acts only with consent. Unless you're a left winger, then all bets are off and you can put your in anywhere you like. Trigger warning. I'm Andrew Clavon and this is the Andrew Clavon show.

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I feel honkytonk life is tickety boo. So needless to say. She did see Topsy does a bit easing. It's a wonderful day who makes me want to sing? Oh, hurrah, hurrah. Oh, great. Right. All right, we are back the last show before the holidays and before the show changes, so, you know, should I get sentimental and tear up and say something that forget it, but don't let this stop you just because I won't be here.

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I have one and I think my wife loves it. I haven't seen her for a couple of weeks.

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So it seems we're going into Christmas. Let's let's be Christmas and talk about some Christmas stuff. One of my favorite Christmas songs is Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas. We were talking about this the other day and I like Silent Night is my favorite of the old Christmas song. But of the the modern Christmas songs, modern to me is the 1940s. Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas is my favorite. I think it's the best songs written in that that period.

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It was first introduced by Judy Garland in the movie Meet Me in St. Louis. And at first they didn't want to do it because it was too melancholy.

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And then the lyricist you, Martin, rewrote it and made it a little less melancholy, but it still has a very wistful, sorrowful tone to it. Next year, all our troubles will be far away, but until then, we'll have to muddle through somehow and so on. It was right for that time. It was the right song. For that time it was 1943. Many faithful friends who were dear to us were overseas fighting a war whose outcome was still in doubt.

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And after the war, at the behest of Frank Sinatra, they actually cheered the lyrics up a bit. But it still has a very sad story. And of course, the sad version is right for this year to a horrible year when so many died. And the grief and anger are so overwhelming that those of us who have survived can barely talk to one another. The left blames Donald Trump for our division, and we blame the left. And with the media on both sides making a living off our anger, it's not going to be easy to find common ground assuming there is common ground, which is still an open question.

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But beyond all that, there is always a feeling, I think, of wistfulness and sadness to Christmas.

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A lot of the really great Christmas songs have that sad tone to them, like White Christmas does, the Christmas song does. I'll be home for Christmas. They all have a sense that there's something beautiful that we've either left behind or it's just beyond our reach. And that's the way that C.S. Lewis described Joy he wants to find. Joy said Joy is distinct not only from pleasure in general, but even from aesthetic pleasure. It must have the stab, the pang of inconsolable longing.

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And the reason for this, I think this is the way C.S. Lewis, I think I'm relating what he thought pretty accurately. The reason for this is that the thing we all really want, the thing we're truly searching for when we're out searching for love and beauty and money and power and sex and pleasure and peace, there's really something we're searching for beyond all that. And it lies beyond the veil of life. We just can't see it. Face to face is something we can never quite get to.

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And we have to trust that it's there on the other side of life and that we will see it eventually. The first Christmas was when that longed for something, broke the barrier and came onto the earth. And when we celebrate the day, we are sort of boldly declaring our faith in the reality of that event and the truth of its meaning that God is really there, that he really loves us, that the moral logic of life is larger than life itself, the unfairness we see and the cruelty we see and the evil we see in life.

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And sometimes just the natural unhappiness of life is not the whole story. And we are not yearning in vain. I think maybe at this time of year it might be good to remember that sometimes that the people we hate the most, the people we disagree with the most, the people we want to strangle the most, are also yearning for something beyond their grasp. They're broken just like we are. They're sorrowful like we are, and they may not even have some of them.

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The consolation of our hope and faith. Next year, all our troubles will be far away. It will not be another year like this. But this year, as we muddle through, we might find that if we can love our enemies even a little, as was recommended to us, it will provide a consoling taste. Of a beauty that waits for us on the other side, I think that is the purpose of love, is that it is a hint of the thing to come.

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The other thing I want to just say about Christmas, and it's the thing that makes me a little bit of anathema to central conservatives, to conservative conservatives, people like the Fox News Group when they were still conservative, I think is the reason they don't bring me on is because I believe the Christmas is also a celebration of motherhood and its urgent importance in the creation of human beings. And I know that sounds silly because mothers literally create human beings, but what they literally create are babies and it's motherhood that actually turns those babies into human beings.

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And I think that that is part of the story of Christmas that, you know. You would think that if God wanted to become a human being, he just could have said I'm a human being, but in fact, he chose to have a mother and he chose to have a mother because mothers make babies into human beings. When a baby is born, it has no individuality. It gains that individuality by its interactions with the mother. And I've talked before about Wordsworth writing about this.

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In his long poem, The Prelude, he talks about how the mother's love for an infant infuses the world with love. He begins to see the other as a loving place, a place that was made in love. And he begins to react with nature as if it were had the mark of a living creature, a living creator on it. And he becomes an individual, a creative individual. That way he becomes essentially the poet in the sense that we're all poets, that we see the world and we create a world, that we see this individual to us.

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And that turns out to be scientifically true. It turns out that there are these things called mirror neurons that are set into motion when the child interacts with the mother. There's this typical argument going on on the left and right, where suddenly, all of a sudden the media is celebrating all the mothers in the Biden transition camp like that woman, the chief of staff, Jen O'Malley Dillon, who just called Republicans a bunch of EFAs. You know, and Maggie Haberman is saying, putting aside everything else, it's rare to hear a woman speaking unapologetically and unselfconsciously about life, having kids in an intense job.

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And, of course, that's total crap. Amy Barrett talked about it. Kayleigh McEnany has kept a diary of all of her children raising her children while she's working. But, you know, Republican women don't count just like Budha judge who is now what transportation secretary. They're calling him the first gay cabinet member. And they've completely forgotten Rick Grenell, who is Trump's DNI. He just doesn't exist.

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And so this this thing about, you know, our women are working, women are no good and they're working.

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Women are just so incredibly sacrificial and beautiful. My problem and the reason this makes me kind of anathema to certain mainstream conservatives who want to get on the feminist train is my problem is I think actually we should be encouraging more women not to work out of the home, you know, in Proverbs 31 to describes the perfect woman and she works all the time, but she works in the home. She buys land, she creates clothes, she creates food. She creates the stuff that food is served in.

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She does all the stuff, but she does it all out at home. And really, the industrial revolution put paid to that. And that's why feminism was born with the Industrial Revolution. It took away clothing manufacturing, took it out of the home. It took away food production out of the home, into factories, all those things. And women began to lose their economic usefulness. And everybody wants economic usefulness. I mean, everybody wants to be a part of the world.

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And so I think that at Christmas time, we also remember that being a part of the world is not actually our objective. Our objective is humanity. The things that women do that mothers do are. Priceless, they turn houses into homes, they turn mills into gathering's, they turn, you know, life into life, into humanity. And I think that's something else we should think about at Christmas, that this is that the gift of life comes even to God through a mother just to alienate the feminist.

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I just make it look easy. But now let's let's go on and talk about what's happening in the news a little bit and then we're going to get back to Christmas toward the end. But I do want to say in the Christmas spirit, I'm going to look at some of the arguments that are going on between our friends on the left and ourselves. And in the spirit of loving our enemies, I'm going to try and understand the arguments that the left is making before completely demolishing them and mocking them and and using foul language about them.

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Yesterday, there was this interesting hearing on the election with a Homeland Security Committee, which is Ron Johnson's committee. He's the head of that committee. And it blew up. It was really an argument. And the thing that was interesting about it is it was partly a show. It was partly the Republican Party speaking to all the people who believe the election was stolen and saying, we hear you and we do believe that there were problems and we do think those problems should be fixed.

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And I think that's right. I think they should have done that. But it also, of course, had the Democrats screaming like banshees about, you know, how terrible, what a terrible thing it was to do to even hold the hearing. Here's Gary Peters from Connecticut going after them and all Trump supporters everywhere. This is sex.

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Rather than creating fake news, it seems as if Russia has simply used state controlled news outlets to basically push President Trump's own statements and lies about a rigged election. Our adversaries don't, don't, don't have to be technologically advanced. Our adversaries don't have to be creative to sow that doubt. All they have to do is air the words of American elected officials on their state owned news networks.

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I think our friend let's I mean, in a loving and a way of life with love. Sorry, let me get my straight face back in a way of loving, you know, lovingly trying to understand the arguments.

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I think what he's saying is that, you know, you're all a bunch of Russian plants who are serving, you know, the Soviets, the former Soviets in their attempt to disinform the public. Ron Johnson, not not in the spirit of Christmas. That loving spirit actually just went off on the sky because remember, Ron Johnson with Chuck Grassley put out a report on Hunter Biden's activities that was left to scorn and covered up by the media talking about state sponsored media, the real state sponsored media.

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Here's Ron Johnson responding. Cut for the purveyors of Russian disinformation.

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Hillary Clinton's campaign, the DNC, the Steele dossier, the ranking member, Peters accusing Senator Grassley and I of Russian disinformation. That's where the disinformation is coming. That's where the false information, the lies, the false allegations. I can't sit by here and listen to this. And say that this is not disinformation, this hearing today, this is getting information we have to take a look at to restore confidence in our election integrity. We're not going to be able to just move on without bringing up these irregularities, examining them.

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And providing an explanation and see where there really are problems so we can correct it. Moving forward, Senator Paul. Mr. Mr. Chairman, I got to respond to that. I mean, you're saying I'm putting it right? Well, one, I that had nothing to do with this report.

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You lied repeatedly. You lied repeatedly in the press. And I was spreading Russian disinformation. And that was an outright lie. And I told you to stop lying and you continue to do it.

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Well, you know, in parliament in England, you're not supposed to call use the word liar. You usually don't in the Senate either. But he is really ticked off. They're both Johnson and Grassley are big time ticked off at having their report buried, their oversight ignored in the service of getting Joe Biden shoveled up into the White House before he collapses. And so that's that's what that is about. And, you know, while they're talking about Russian disinformation and disinformation in general, let us remember, you know, I had actually forgotten about this, that 50 50 former intelligence officers.

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Said that the Hunter Biden story had all the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign and Joe Biden used that in the debate, and that's really important. The next time we hear from The New York Times, a former newspaper, that intelligence sources, you know, anonymous intelligence sources said anything, anything because spies, this is what spies do. They spread disinformation. And clearly there is a very, very strong left wing strain in our intelligence agencies. And they're always there really lately has been for quite a long time.

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I believe that the leaks during George W. Bush's administration were far, far worse and then suddenly shut down during the Obama administration. They really did. And here is here is Johnson on TV and not at the hearing talking about basically what he thinks. You know, the real problem is not Russia, obviously, but China has got five.

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They are investing in influence. And let's face it, we see how a long term thinking, how strategic they are because they do. The Congressman Swalwell, I mean, they groomed this guy. They say here's an up and comer, let's fund his campaign. So let's see what he can do. Let's see how far this guy can go. And they get him placed in the Intelligence Committee, the House and Nancy Pelosi knows about it. So is it that far fetched to think they were grooming Hunter Biden as well in his connections to his father?

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You know, we don't even know all the connections.

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So luckily, though, Joe Biden has finally given a complete, deep, really responsible response to the Hunter Biden story.

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He really outlined his feelings about this in a very, very extensive, complete way. Cut. Sixteen.

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Are you confident your son Hunter, did nothing wrong? I'm confident the.

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Me, too. I'm confident, too. I'm really I'm not confident, Hunter Biden. But I'm just I just I'm just that kind of guy. I'm just a confident guy. You know, what's interesting about this is that Catherine Herridge, who is formerly Fox News State Department reporter, is now at CBS and she has been doing a lot of deep dives and a lot of investigative reporting. And it's going to be really interesting to see what happens to her, because CBS lost Cheryl Atkinson because they wouldn't let her report on Barack Obama.

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They wouldn't let her report on Barack Obama, even though she had reported fairly on George W. Bush. She attacked George W. Bush. She went after him. She's just Sharyl Attkisson is just one of those old time reporters who just wants to get at the powerful. She just wants to find something wrong with the politician like him. She knows they are misbehaving. She just wants to find out how. And so she went after George W. Bush. And when she went after Barack Obama, she writes about this in her first book, she went after Barack Obama.

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CBS started to censor her, Catherine Herridge, though so far they have let her go. And we'll see if that continues in the Biden administration. Here's what she says about the election. This is coming from DNI John Ratcliffe.

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Cut one DNI Radcliffe leads the seventeen intelligence agencies and he has access to the most highly classified information that is held by the U.S. government. And he told CBS News that there was foreign election interference by China, Iran and Russia in November of this year. And he is anticipating a public report on those findings in January.

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So, you know, this is really kind of interesting. You know, obviously, China, Russia, Iran, they're always going to be trying to fiddle with our elections. I'm sure we do the same to them. It's a question of how effective they are and how extensive their work is. But all of this stuff should come out. And, you know, and we remember what they did with their Russian their Russian hoax story. But this should come out and we should address these problems because we do have to restore some kind of faith in our systems.

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Neither is suspicion. Suspicion is a good thing, especially during this information crisis when the media is lying en masse and they're lying en masse on behalf of globalism and what I call Chinese capitalism, which is money for the big corporations, but no freedom for the little guy. And so. You know, we have to be suspicious, but we also have to have the sense that, yeah, all right, some of this is being taken care of.

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So the hearing, I thought, was actually a good thing to do. And I think that, you know, I've said this repeatedly, even though people don't hear it, there was a lot of shenanigans going on with this stuff. And Josh Hawley talked about this is a cut three and just talked about the fact that the people who believe this are not crazy. They're not, you know, far writers, they're not Kuhnen people necessarily. They are people who saw what was happening.

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They saw the lack of transparency. And they deserve they deserve for their government to hear them.

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This would cut three to listen to the mainstream press and quite a few voices in this building tell them after four years of nonstop rush, a hoax. It was a hoax. It was based on the whole Russia nonsense was based on, we now know lies from a Russian spy. The Steele dossier was based on a Russian spy after four years of that being told that this that the last election was fake and that Donald Trump wasn't really elected and that Russia intervened after four years of that.

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Now, these same people are told you to sit down and shut up. If you have any concerns about election integrity, you're a nutcase. You should shut up. Well, I tell you what, 74 million Americans are not going to shut up and telling them that their views don't matter and that their concerns don't matter and they should just be quiet is not a recipe for success in this country. That's not a recipe for the unity that I hear.

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Now, the other side is suddenly so interested in after years, years of trying to delegitimize President Donald Trump.

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Now, that makes a lot of sense to me that that is something someone talking about this election. You know, I'm sorry to hear people saying, you know, this isn't over yet. It's over. You know, it's done. And the faster we get on to the fights we can win, the better as far as I'm concerned. But that doesn't mean this doesn't need to be fixed and these things don't need to be addressed. They do. But in the spirit of Christmas, spirit, goodwill and loving our enemies.

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Let's hear the argument from the other side from Chris Murphy, who says 74 million people basically are totally wrong. This is cut eight.

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There are regular patriotic Americans out there who don't believe that Joe Biden is actually president. And you know why? Because as patriotic Americans, they've been told to listen to the president of the United States, to listen to U.S. senators.

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And so when the president and other senators tell them over and over and over again that the election was rigged, they believe it not because they're crazy, but because they have faith that people in positions of power are going to tell them the truth. So this becomes this circular logic in which Republicans say, well, we got to talk about this because everybody thinks that the election is rigged. By the way the election was rigged.

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Everybody there's no way out of that sort of black hole downward spiral if Republicans are willing to stir up the conspiracy theories and then claim that because people are listening to them, we all of a sudden have to talk about it.

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Now, that argument would actually be completely correct if it weren't totally wrong. He's talking to a guy. I can be open minded. He's talking to a guy who called ordinary patriotic Americans tea baggers. Their disdain for ordinary patriotic American Americans drips from them. They lied to them. They lied about Hunter Biden. They lied about Tara Reid and Joe Biden by covering that story up. They lied about Cavnar, they lied about Trump. And now they're saying, why don't you believe us?

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Oh, it's because Trump is telling you lies. Well, Trump may be playing people. That may be there may be truth to that, but there's nowhere to go from. There's nowhere to go where there are trustworthy people to tell you that he's wrong. So as long as they keep lying, as long as people like Anderson Cooper and CNN and NBC and CBS and ABC, as long as The New York Times in The Washington Post keep covering up for Democrats and lying about Republicans.

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Donald Trump is golden, you know, whatever Donald Trump says people are going to believe because there's no one to say, hey, you know what, I I disproved it when Barack Obama lied. And now I'm going to tell you that Donald Trump is saying something wrong. We'd listen to that. People would listen to that. But why should they listen to anybody who treated Barack Obama like a plaster saint and is now treating Joe Biden like basically a child?

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They are treating him like a child. The questions they're asking him are child questions. And, you know, I sympathize. He's obviously compromised. But still, the guy is going to be president of the United States. He needs to be able to answer hard questions. Rand Paul, who has been the most aggressive about this because he understands he understands how much shenanigans there were and how much things were rejiggered to late and done, how rules were changed without legis the legislature operating.

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Rand Paul understands that this is a matter for the states. They're not going it's not going to be solved by Texas suing Georgia. That's not going to work. It's a matter for the states. But the states could get a little goose from the federal government. And there it is a it is a state by state election, but it's a state by state election for federal office. And it's not a bad thing for them, for the federal government to shine a spotlight on what they're doing.

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This Rand Paul. I think there's a lot of work to be done.

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While we will not dictate it to the states, I think we should have hearings going into the next year, hearing from state legislatures and what they're going to do to make sure election law is upheld, not changed by people who are not legislators. And we do have an interest in that. I don't want it to be federalized. Many on the other side of the aisle, we just spoon fed closet mail everybody a ballot and we'll have this universal corruption throughout the land.

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But what I think we need to do is keep it at the state level.

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But we can't just say it didn't happen. We can't just say, oh, four thousand people voted in Nevada that were non-citizens and we're just going to ignore it. We're going to sweep it under the rug. So the courts have decided the facts. The courts have not decided the facts. The courts never looked at the facts. The courts don't like elections. And so they stayed out of it by finding an excuse, standing or otherwise to stay out of it.

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But the fraud happened. The election in many ways was stolen, and the only way it'll be fixed is by in the future reinforcing the laws.

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You know, I think I think except for the fact that when he says the election in many ways was stolen, I think it's possible that he is talking about the the fact that the press rigged the election. And there's no question about this. You know, this is where we get the information from.

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This is there's absolutely no question that the press had a you know, the press always has a pro Democrat effect on elections. It always does. But this was untoward because it was just a pack of lies, not reporting. Hunter Biden reporting that it was a Russian disinformation campaign that was a pack of lies and every and, of course, everything. You know, I wouldn't blame people even on the right from feeling, well, Donald Trump is gone, but at least we won't be living at this constant state of crisis all the time.

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But that's what the press does. And I told you about that when Trump was elected. I told you about that four years ago when Trump was elected. I said what the press will do is they will create a constant sense of crisis. Everything Donald Trump does will be a crisis. And eventually, because there's always a crisis in every presidency, eventually when the crisis hits, then it'll be like, oh, my God, this they're right. It's one crisis after another.

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They did this was George W. Bush and the hurricane down in New Orleans. But up running up until that, they were hitting him again and again. Everything he did was everything he said was a lie. Everything he did was a disaster. Everything he did was a crisis of authoritarianism. And our constitution was in danger. And then when a hurricane hit and George W. Bush made the mistake of not going down there for a photo op, that was his mistake.

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They ripped him to pieces. And there was this feeling like, oh, this, you know, presidency is a disaster. They did it to Trump. To Trump was not as good at handling it as George W. Bush was. And George W. Bush didn't handle it well either. The way you handle that is you address it every time, but not not by shouting and yelling. You address it quietly saying this is what you guys are doing. You have to play post-modernism with the press because they are playing post-modernism with you.

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They are lying and creating this atmosphere. You have to deconstruct the atmosphere. You have to say to the public what they're doing is they're making a crisis out of everything because I'm a Republican. And then when and there will be a real crisis and then they'll tell you, oh, look, it's one crisis after another. And that's what they did to Trump with the pandemic. Trump, you know, played into it. And that's been my complaint about him all along, is he didn't really he knew how dishonest they were.

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He knew and was the first Republican to fully understand that we are always running against the press because they're lying Democrat toadies. He was the first Republican to really grasp that and understand it, but he didn't really have the full complement of tools to dismantle it. And that's a problem. You know, it's a problem. You've got to be able to say, no, that's wrong because of this, this and this. And he didn't do it. And when he.

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Came out and said, oh, the like like everybody else, like Nancy Pelosi, like everybody else when he came out and said, oh, this pandemic will just be over, you know, just suddenly disappear. It was easy for them to take him down. You know, it's really it really is the danger we're facing. It's it's so interesting to me who has been kind of screaming about this to watch this dynamic, because I really do believe that Trump has changed the game because every Republican and every Republican who has any sense whatsoever, any idea whatsoever understands that this is what he has to do in the future.

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It's going to be a fascinating year coming up. I think there's going to be a lot of division on the left, a lot of left middle moderate division that is going to be very difficult for them. I think on our side, there's going to be how to manage Donald Trump while getting new leaders out there who can take us in the direction that Trump was heading to a stronger America, a a and a stronger world through a stronger America and a better economy and and also conservative principles.

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Those are the things that are going to have to happen. But I'm pretty hopeful about it. I know there's been there's been a rotten year, but I'm pretty hopeful going forward that we can get that stuff done on Monday, December 21st, which is coming Monday, the historical docu series Apollo 11, what we saw will be available exclusively at daily Wired.com. It was originally released as an audio podcast for Apple and Spotify. It will now be available to watch as well as listen to on the daily wire, Apple TV and Roku app.

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It's really good. It's really it's amazing to see really. And Bill Whittle does a great job. Apollo 11. What we saw is a fantastic story to watch with your loved ones over the holiday break. And we will give you 20 percent off your subscription with code watch. If you become an insider or above member over daily Wired.com, subscribe, make sure to download the Apple TV or Roku app to get all of our content on the big screen, including our podcast and special live streams like Monday's Christmas Edition of Backstage.

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I will be visiting backstage, but I won't be a full participant because I have very, very serious family business to go take care of and I will be admitted. I finished the show. I will be dashing out of here to the airport. That's a daily Wired.com. I subscribe to get twenty percent off your membership with code watch and access to all of our new and existing content. Let's talk some more about Christmas. So I think the most important thing we can do about Christmas is argue about it, you know, because I think what good is it if we're not fighting with each other over Christmas and, you know, battling and burning each other at the stake and things like that.

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And one of the things that is funny about the war on Christmas is the left is so good at doing this. They're so good at maneuvering us into a position where what they're saying is the standard that we're all dealing with. So they wage war on Christmas and we say you're waging a war on Christmas. And they're like, oh, God, these people are always making a fuss over every little thing, you know, just because we say happy holidays.

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But they're waging a war on Christmas. And the most important part of our arguments about Christmas are Christmas movies. When we argue about Christmas movies, there are two movies. This is really interesting to me. There are two movies that are a source of great, great division in our in our nation today and are tearing us apart at the seams. And whether or not these are good movies, whether they're Christmas movies. And I think we should delve into this question as Christmas comes so that we have something to really fight about as we sit around with our friends and relations and then we'll get sick and die.

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Oh, by the way, this is this new thing that they're telling us now that we shouldn't have Christmas. They told us we wouldn't have Thanksgiving because there was going to be this horrific Thanksgiving spike. But apparently that hasn't shown up the horrific Thanksgiving spike. So let's ignore them. But but one of these movies is this movie Love, actually. And this is an amazing thing. Love actually is a romantic comedy. It's by it's written and directed by Richard Curtis, who is the only guy who really does I'm not a big romantic comedy fan, but he does romantic comedies that I always kind of like four weddings and a funeral was his.

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And what was the other one? Oh, the one about the actress Julia Roberts falling in love with the bookseller.

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I can't remember the name offhand, but there it is.

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But but anyway, he does good ones. He's very funny. He's got a really good sense of sense of humor. And so I went to see this movie and I liked it, you know, I didn't think was great.

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I took the family, you know, I didn't think it was the greatest movie ever, but I thought it was really good. It was a little too long. But it has all these different love stories going on and each love story is different and about a different thing. And it's the message of the of the story is that it begins with Hugh Grant narrating it and saying, you know, when 9/11 happened because it was coming out 2003 when 9/11 happened, we thought it was about the anger and hate.

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But the last words that everybody said when they called up their relatives before they were killed and they knew there were trapped, there were messages of love. And the point of the movie is that love is actually all around. Then it goes and shows you very different kinds of love. So I went and saw it and I thought, well, that was charming, was a little too long, but it was very charming. I had an agent then in England because I'd only just moved back from England and I, I called her about something else and she started talking about love, actually.

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And I can't repeat what she said because it was so mouth.

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It was like, it's terrible, it's garbage, it's up.

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Now, this is a funny thing about Britain because Richard Curtis with the movies, Four Weddings and a Funeral and the other one, I can't remember the name of that, that restored the British movie industry and then the British because they only think a movie is good. If it's if it's about poor people, preferably colored people, preferably gay, you know, like My Beautiful Laundrette was there. Basically, that was their perfect movie. And if it's not about that, they feel it's about, you know, they're real socialists, they're socialists are not make believe socialists like ours.

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They're the real deal. If it's not about that, they feel it's not art. That's what art does. That's what art is is like the great socialist commentary. So they hate movies that are fun, that have pretty people in them that are beautiful. So I didn't think much about it. But then over the years, this became this huge, huge deal. And so here's like from the Independent. This is a British paper and I'll get to an American one because all the power and agency in the movie belongs to the male characters, while women, often they're younger employees, are silent, appreciative, pretty things.

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The ones who have any cares or responsibilities beyond pleasing men seem to get punished, missing out on love and having to listen to Joni Mitchell. It also seems astonishingly hetero normative, as if most people were straight, astonishingly hetero normative. Nine stories all straight. So that's you get the feeling that's what the left is doing. And then in in the Atlantic, he says, this guy in the Atlantic, I mean, this is all over the Internet.

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This this argument. The guy in the Atlantic says it elevates physical attraction over any of the other factors typically associated with romantic compatibility. And that's not true. There is a subplot that he mentions and he says he like the subplot. A Martin Freeman and Joanna Page are doing these nude sex scenes for movies are stand ins and. You do the nude sex scenes and they're just bored out of their mind. I mean, she is absolutely gorgeous and she's naked and he's, you know, doing all these things to her.

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And but there it's a job, but they fall in love in spite of that. So it really is telling you there's all kinds of different love, this sacrificial love. There is love that stands the test of time, love the people betray. There is love that you know, that where you put everything aside and and give yourself to the other person, all kinds of different love.

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And so it's just not true. There is one great scene, however, that confirms all of the left's fears and arguments, which is a great, great scene, is a guy named Colin who is just he's a failure at love. He can't get girls to look at him. And he keeps saying, you know, if I could just go to America, I know that I would just meet all these hot girls and that instantaneously I would be making out like a bandit.

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Right. And so he goes to America. He knows nothing about America. He lands in the middle of nowhere. I can't remember where he is, Omaha or something like this.

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And he walks into this bar in the middle of a snowstorm and suddenly his all his dreams come true. Three of the most beautiful women come up to him. Here's the clip. Where are you staying?

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I don't actually know because I just check into a motel that they do in the movies. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That is so cute.

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This may be a bit pushy because we just met you, but why do you come back and sleep at our place? Yeah, well, I mean, you know, it's not too much of an inconvenience. Hell, no. But there's one problem.

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Well, we're not the richest of girls, you know, so we just have a little bed and no couch. So you would have to share with all three of us.

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And on this cold, cold night, it's going to be crowded and sweaty and stuff. Yeah. And we can't even afford it.

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Yeah, I was like, oh, this dreams come true. Do the girls went on to have real careers, Alecia Cuthbert and Jan Jones, who was the wife in Mad Men. And they're absolutely gorgeous. And that scene is that's that scene actually made me laugh out loud, really roared. That other picture I was trying to think of was Notting Hill. I knew it was a neighborhood in London, but I couldn't remember which one.

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Notting Hill is the other one that that he wrote. And, you know, so anyway, this film, I just feel should not be controversial. It is a good, solid romantic comedy. It's very touching. It shows you all kinds of different forms of love. And it's just about British people there, you know, all kinds of different British people in different positions. And if it doesn't fulfil your personal identity politics, go watch something else. But that anger and the hatred it inspires, I think really speaks well of it has made me like the film more than I did.

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Like I said, I'm not a big romantic comedy fan, but. But the anger and hatred inspired on the left has made me like the film. Now, of course, the other controversial one is Die Hard and Die Hard, came out in nineteen eighty eight and I was staying with my wife out at a house on Long Island and we were just staying there as part of the Christmas holidays. And I just said one day, you know, I'm getting kind of housebound, I'm going to go to the movies.

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So I went out and the ad for Die Hard was just a guy sitting watching the movie being kind of blown away with a kind of wind blowing up. So it didn't tell you anything about what the movie was about. So I had no idea. I just knew it was a thriller. And I like Bruce Willis. And he he was kind of an up and comer at that point. And so I went to the movie and had no idea what was about.

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And I was like absolutely riveted to show you how foolish I was, how completely swept up in it. I actually thought that Bruce Willis might die in the movie because I didn't think about the sequels. I didn't think there would be sequels. I just thought this was just this great, great Thriller movie. It was a spectacular, spectacular film. But is it a Christmas film? It takes place at Christmas. You know, it takes place at an office Christmas party.

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And I'm sure everybody's seen it. It's the the terrorists come in and they take over the building during the office Christmas party. But they forget Bruce Willis was in New York City cop who's come out to try and make amends with his wife, who has left him. And he is left alone and he goes on and takes them on alone in the building. And it is a spectacular, spectacular thing. And Alan Rickman is the chief villain who just recently passed away.

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And Rickman suddenly realizes that his absolutely perfect plot has a fly in the ointment, which is Bruce Willis was just killed two of his men and is coming to get him. And this is the scene between the two of them.

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Mr Mystery Guest.

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I still. I am still here, but she won't open the front door for me. But you have me at a loss. You know my name, but were you just another American? So too many movies as a child. Another orphan of a bankrupt culture. This is John Wayne Rambo. Dylan was always kind of little Roy Rogers, actually really like those sequined shirts.

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Do you really think you have a chance against us, Mr. Cowboy?

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You became the great, great, great movie. Is it a Christmas movie? I got I got to go down. No, it is a great conservative movie because it is about the beauty of gender roles. It is about a man coming to find his wife and a wife accepting that she is his wife. And it has the famous moment at the end, which was originally from the movie A Star is Born, where she takes on his name again, having dropped it to move away.

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It was came in the 80s with the height of that wave of feminism where women were screaming at you if you open the door for them and so on. And it really had a sort of it had a bit of a readjustment in there, which I thought was great. One more film I just want to recommend. Obviously, the only two great films are It's A Wonderful Life and The Christmas Carol with Alastair SIM. But there is this this film, The Bishop's Wife, which I like to plug every year.

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If you've never seen it, you really should not the not the preacher's wife, the remake, but the bishop's wife with Cary Grant and David Niven and who Loretta Young is the woman. And Cary Grant plays an angel who comes down from heaven to help a preacher. And he comes into this church, this little church where the choir is falling apart and he finds two little boys, the only people who have shown up for the choir, and he tells them to start singing.

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It's an absolutely beautiful scene. And let's just play that scene now. What do you say?

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OK, you ready, Mrs. Duffy? Oh, yes, it is. We love you more. George. And this why we're so glad that chains of so much more. And he will say, oh, oh, oh. La la, la, la, la, la, la, la la la la. De la. Shades of are high this morning about. That's a great scene, if you couldn't see it, you could hear what was happening, but Cary Grant basically just magically brings all the kids in off the street to sing the song, to sing the hymn.

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It's just absolutely gorgeous a moment. And what I love about this film is it's a reminder that there are forces moving among us that are greater than we know, better than we know, a more joyful than we know. And even in a moment like this, in a year like this, we should remember that, that God is still there. The angels are among us and God loves you. And don't let anybody tell you different. Even if you're on the left, God loves you.

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Gay, straight, black, white, everybody. He loves you call him now. His lines are open. If you call right away, he will not only give you salvation, he will send you against your knife to cut vegetables with. All right. I just made that up. Merry Christmas to everybody. Have a wonderful flavonols holiday. If you survive, hopefully, hopefully we will all gather again on the other side. And next year all our troubles will be far away.

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