
The Longest NFL Day Ever, Cowboys Fever, Incompetence Galore, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal
The Bill Simmons Podcast- 206 views
- 7 Oct 2024
The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal after what seemed like an endless day of football to discuss the Cowboys' last-minute win over the Steelers, another dismal Patriots performance (1:28), the Ravens winning a shootout vs. the Bengals, Jets-Vikings, Bears-Panthers, another encouraging showing from Jayden Daniels, and Giants-Seahawks (20:16). Then they host an NFL Week 5 Incompetency Draft (38:05). Finally, they guess the lines for NFL Week 6 (1:03:30) and close the show with Parent Corner (1:23:21).
Host: Bill Simmons
Guest: Cousin Sal
Producer: Kyle Crichton
The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Coming up, not even a lightning storm could stop me and Cousin Sal from staying up late doing a podcast. It's coming up next. We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network. I have a new Rewatchables coming for you on Monday night. We did Poltergeist. It is part of Scary Month on the Rewatchables, and you can watch that one as well on the Ringer Movies YouTube channel. We're also doing a live episode of Silence of the Lambs tonight. Actually, because it's officially Monday on Broadway in New York City. We'll run that next week in the Rewatchables. You can find all that on the YouTube channel. You can find all the clips from this podcast on my YouTube channel, the Bill Simmons' channel. Videos, clips, me stammering, me looking super tired because Cousin Sal and I stayed up very late tonight, and I'm on East Coast. I'm going to talk about it in a second. Guess the lines, week 5 review, lots of stuff next. First, our friends, I wish we had a Les Pepe song. I wish we had a tired Pearl Jam song. We should have gone maybe like Black or something, but let's bring them into Pearl Jam.
All right, the longest day in NFL history is over. Sal is you for it. I'm exhausted. I'm on the East Coast. Sal, we had 13 and a half hours.
No, I can't even... I can't speak. No, 16, almost. Almost 16.
16 and a half hour. 15 and a half hours? What's 9:30 to one o'clock?
Yeah, we're in the 16th hour. I feel like I'm on the air traffic control who worked a double shift staring at screens all day, and now I have to do it again on Zoom for an hour. But yeah, that did great.
I know. Congratulations. Jets Vikings feel like it happened about 100 hours ago. I'm a little groggy, but you are out of your mind excited. The Cowboys have stolen one. They win in Pittsburgh, a 15-play drive that included a fumble that went backwards and landed on the four-yard line. Then they get stuffed. You have fourth down, you run a pick-play. And Tolbert, who seems like he's about to have a heart attack 30 seconds earlier, somehow makes this great catch in traffic. You win the game. And more importantly, Dak, not a lot of those for Dak over the years.
No, zero. No, I don't think that... I mean, I was planning on being miserable. I thought this was going to cap off a Mets Cowboys back to back, six and a half hour. First of all, you were funny yesterday because you texted us and you're like, I'm on the East Coast. I'm going to be able to watch the London game at a normal time. That's your text voice. And then you forgot about... You didn't account for a lightning storm that would keep you up till 1:30 in the morning. But that was so good, man. I mean, we deserved it. We had like 445 yards to their 220. We outplayed them almost every facet of the game.
Yeah, it's true. Very exciting. The field's through for 134. The Stealers didn't even rush for 100 yards. Pickens was three for 26. How many? Did you double their yardage? Twenty-five first downs. Yeah, you almost doubled their yardage.
We did. Four, four, five, two, two, two. And you know what? More than that, you're never going to hear this probably Again, McCarthy outcoached Tomlin. He really did. I mean, not just that last drive. I mean, that last drive, why they use that time out? I have no idea, right? That was a cat and mouse game why Tomlin called that time out. But just the play calling. I was proud of McCarthy. All right, Dak had his couple of picks, but just the way he got up and down the field was just chef's kiss. I can't say enough.
Well, you're three in the ball, which I didn't... I mean, I went into the game. I picked Pittsburgh. Once there's an hour and a half lightning delay, I don't feel bad about any pick. I'm in Boston. I could have hedged against the Steeler's bit, but I did not expect, out of all the things that happened, for you guys to run the ball. Enrico Dautil, the 20 for 87. The Stealers don't look like the same team to me from the start of the season. They've had a couple of injuries, but they didn't have the same umph. We knew their offense wasn't going to be that great. But defensively, I just felt like they got lucky with a couple of Dack throws, right? But other than that, I didn't feel like there was a ton of pressure. T. J. Watt, we heard from a couple of times, but for the most part, felt like you guys were doing whatever you wanted, and Dack seemed really comfortable the whole game. I didn't think it was a good sign for Pittsburgh at all.
Well, I think they get out yardage most games, but they keep you out of the end zone, right? So they kept us to 13 for 59 and a half, more. But yeah, you're right. They should be moving the ball better at this point in Justin Field, especially against a second-rate defense. We had guys in Overshaw. We We had Tyris wheat call. I could name guys you'll never, ever hear of again on defense, but they didn't do it. They couldn't get downfield, which was great. It was really a team effort I haven't seen from the Cowboys in a while.
You're so proud. It's like you just watched Harrison hit a grand slam. It was as you're watching it, you are thinking, or at least I was thinking, this is a perfect offense for the Cowboys to go against because they just have these hodgepodge defensive backs, and they're just dying to be thrown on. But the Steelers are the exact wrong team to do that. You're playing, you get the lines next week. Pretty sure that secondary is going to be in a little bit of a different shape next week against Goff and those receivers. I watch football all day. I watched everything. But the Steelers and the AFC North in general, I just don't know what to make of it. Because the Steelers, they win. There was a moment today when it seemed like Cincinnati was going to beat Baltimore, when it seemed like the Steelers won tonight, they're going to have a two-game lead after five weeks. And now everybody's bunched together again. But it just feels like they missed a window. But I'm not sure they're that good either. Yeah.
I was talking to House about this on Ringer pregame show. He's like, his big pick was the Steelers. I said, That's fine. But any team who scores 20 points has a shot, right? Yeah. It's against this knuckleball offense because they're only going to put up about 17, 18, 20 points a game. So that's why I felt good. But yeah, the fact that they're not in sync as they should be is interesting.
Yeah, they've gone 18, 13, 20, 24 last week against the Colts, 17 today. So they are who you are. I forgot you did the Ringer pregame show today. So you've been going That was even before the London game started. So this is the longest stretch of media, longest break you've had doing media in the same day? This is it. So I guess now it's Monday.
I don't mind it, though. Let it go. It should be all day. It should be the second you wake up to the second you go to sleep. In fact, I'm going to sprint upstairs after you say, Good job by you, and that'll be that.
I don't think I've been on the East Coast for a London game. It's great. Yeah. Because normally when you're on the East Coast, and we both grew up here, so we were used to it forever, and then we moved to the West Coast, and football started to come in at 10:00, but the London game was always this 6:30. You always woke up because you were a psycho. I I would wake up at some point somewhere in the first, second quarter, and somebody was always up 17, nothing. That's just how the London game goes. 17, nothing. Rich Eisen is getting guys' names wrong, and you're like, Oh, it's the London game. This time, I got to watch it the entire time as it led to Viking 17, nothing. So I actually got to an actual feel for how it goes. It just is a long day. I mean, especially this Monday night football or Sunday night football, even if it ended at a normal hour, it's still midnight or it's still 11:45.
It's very dark on the East Coast when these night games start. It's always weird. When we go back to do Kimmel in Brooklyn every September, October, it's like, oh, my God, the Monday night game didn't start till 8:50. It used to start at 9:00. Remember when we were growing up, it was at 9:00?
Almost like 9:10. I do feel like... I don't know if we just get older and we're used to being in routines, but I felt out of whack the whole day because I didn't have my West Coast routine. I had the four TVs on the multi-view. I didn't really get to see enough of the Indian-inapples-Chaxville game. I didn't know when to have my coffee. It's like, When do I have my coffee? Usually, I have my coffee right after the late games. But now it's like, we're between the early and the late games. What do I do?
You probably blew off church, too, which is odd for you, right? Because of a London game.
Okay, let's play a game of Is it time to believe? Is it time to still believe in the Cowboys? We'll start there. You're three and two. You're game behind this weird Seawards team that's four and one, that's scoring 34 points a game for a month, basically, but also hasn't really played anybody. Are you back in? Are you believing again?
What does it mean if I believe? Do I believe they can make the playoffs and then blow it like they do every January? Yes, I do. But it has less to do with them than it does with what the league has presented us. Which Which seven seed, potential seven seed am I afraid of in the NFC? Who would you be afraid of? Seattle or Chicago? Who's going to grab Arizona? Who's grabbing that seven seed?
I was going to go to the- Green Bay? Floss everywhere. I'm in Boston. I thought FanDuel would have your division odds yet. They don't have it yet. But yeah, I would assume you're still favored, right? Or close? Or maybe the eagles are favored?
I think this win helps. But yeah, it was the eagles, right?
Yeah.
They don't have it up yet.
To To answer your question, who are you afraid of? This NFC playoff picture is super weird. So there's only one undefeated team, Minnesota's 5-0. There's only one undefeated team. Minnesota is five and a. There's only one four-win team. It's Washington at 4-1. Detroit's three and one. Then the following teams are three and two: Seattle, Green Bay, Chicago, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, and Dallas. Then Philly and New Orleans are two and two. That's five. It's a eleven teams that realistically think they have a puncher's chance, including everyone in the NFC North. So A, I don't know who you'd be afraid of, and B, you should probably be afraid because there's seven spots for eleven teams.
Well, we only kicked one team out, right? The Panthers. And I think we kicked the Giants out. So they have to actually go away because we told them to.
I think we have to re-invite the Giants back, maybe to a cocktail mix or something. They look pretty good today.
It's so weird. They are such a weird team. Daniel Jones, every two years has a weird road game, right? We should have seen it coming. Everybody hurt on offense.
Dana Jones is awesome. All right, more as a time to believe. Our offense is back. We were I was so upset the first two weeks about how sloppy, disjointed the games were and the quarterback, the fantasy numbers. This was the first day where it really felt like... Some exceptions, but it really felt like teams were moving the ball. They're having drives, Running good plays, zipping the ball around. It was way more entertaining football today.
I thought so, but I thought that last week, too. We had some early games, 10:00 AM out here where it wasn't 7:3. There was a lot of scoring in the early games last week. I'll say you might have a whole different category for this, but I think the rookie quarterbacks all being decent now obviously helps the offenses, where those were just duds week one. So I think they are back. I think they gave us a month of the offensive lines not being in sync and whatever else. Yeah, I'm going to say they're back for the most part.
Well, I was just looking at our fantasy scores in our knockout league, which I'm not on five, which I don't know if you want to talk about that now or later. Did you lose that? Somebody lost today, even though Damoshex started fields over Joe Burrow, who had 38 points. Dagger. But I had the most points in the league. He had the second most. But you look around and some teams were in the hundreds again. It felt like those days of fantasy might not even see that anymore. All right. Is it time to believe number two? Teasers are officially dead. We're just all banned from doing them. Are we there officially? Yeah, we are. The two teams today were Seattle and San Francisco. It was like, Don't do those. One of those two teams is going to F you. And both of them did.
What can I say? I mean, yes, this is despicable.
What can I say because you teased them?
Because I teased them and I'm going to do it next week, too. I need a Colombian drug lord to threaten my family's life before I stop doing teasers.
What a lightning of the light.
But what is the number now? Oh, God. Like seven plus point dogs or seven and two outright, five and a half plus dogs have 13 straight up wins. It's crazy. Enough already.
Were those? Those were the two biggest lines, right?
The late, the four-Niners and the Seahawks.
The Niners and the Seahawks, yeah. Those are the two biggest lines other than the Chiefs.
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah, those are the two biggest, and they went down.
Please don't do teases unless you're teasing a team the other way, which I did last week with the Titans on Monday night against Miami. All right, so we covered that. The Patriots are the worst team in the league.
I knew this was coming.
Why are you so upset? Why did you know it was coming? Because I'm a Patriot fan.
What? What is it?
Because we've lost four straight.
You're in Boston. You're emotional. I get it. You think they're the worst?
Oh, yeah. I think them versus Miami was the battle. Well, at least for the AFC, for who's the worst team in the AFC in the one, and the Patriots one. And they're the worst team in the AFC. We'll see. I can't remember if they played Carolina this year, but that's the anti-cream of the crop. That's the spray cream at the top. The Patriots are awful. I have some thoughts about this later that I'm going to save for the That's the gimmick that we're doing later. But I'm trying to think that you- I think that's official.
I'm trying to think that you do go to Tennessee. That's winnable. That's about it. I don't know. You go to Arizona. Yeah, it doesn't get easy after this.
All right, I'm going to do some of my Jacobi Bricep material now. He has not hit 700 pass yards yet for the season in five games. He's at 696.
Wow.
He's on pace for less than 2,500 yards, which is something out of the 1960s. He's averaging 139.2 past yards a game. How many touch downs do you think he's thrown this year? But five times. One?
Is it one?
Two touch downs and one pick and 17 sacs. But the good news is he's good with his legs. Oh, no, he's not. He's rushed for 51 yards total. He's on pace for less than 10 touch downs this year. Less than 10 touch downs. In 2024, he's played every game, all the games. They've had multiple times in the red zone and inside the other team's 40. I've never seen anything like this. It's the most divisive Patriot argument since Bradley Bledso, even though it's the dumb version of it, because there's people who's like, The line is so bad, you can't play Drake May yet. You can't. You're just throwing him. He's going to die. But if you watch the games, part of the reason the lines are so bad is because Preset can't throw the ball more than five yards downfield. So the teams move up. And it's basically like if you're playing a video game, it's like the other teams are basically in goal line defense. They're just all the way up. The safeties are 10 yards off the line. They're just completely unafraid of him. So, yeah, they can't block because there's 11 guys coming because they know that this guy can't throw over the top.
He throws it out of bounds. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. It's one thing, I'm glad they're losing. I bet all the unders. I want them to get another top three pick. But I don't understand why you wouldn't want to have a quarterback who could at least give you a chance to compete. He seems like a nice guy. We've talked about him before, but he's just not a competent starting quarterback. Play Joe Milton if you don't want to play Drake May. Go sign people off the waiver wire. Go get Tyler Hunt. There's got to be five more of those on the waiver wire, right? Go get one of those guys. Frustrating.
I'll tell you what, I have three words for you. You deserve it. You do. That's fair. You do. I mean, you had the greatest of all time for two decades. I would think it's like Bill Gates, if he's going to be reincarnated and he becomes a cockroach in Malaysia, it's like, All right, that's fair. Come on. What are you going to do? You had the best, and now you have the worst. He's not even the worst. We'll get to the worst a little later.
He's up there.
Well, you're not paying them a zillion dollars, so that's nice.
There are some fan bases. The receivers are open. You know what's crazy? The pats are one and four. I honestly think they could have beaten the Niners last week. They could have beaten Seattle. They lost an OT, but they had the ball with the a chance to clinch it. And they should have won today. And it's not just for set. The coaching is awful. It's just awful. They're down five. Maybe they're trying to tank. So if they're trying to tank, congratulations because it's working. But they're down They have with, I don't know, two and a half minutes left, two minutes left. They got, of course, they have to get a false start on fourth and 10. So now it's fourth and 15 on the 20. And they're like, Yeah, let's go for it. Jacobi Brisset, the guy who literally can't do anything. Let's see he can complete this. Just kick the field goal. You had all three timeouts. This is like basic football 101 shit that the coaching staff can't do. They fucked up the end of the first half. The part that scares me is because we went through this with the Celtics in the mid '90s where it was like, No, no, it's a marathon, not a sprint.
We're trying to build something long term. It was like MLK. But MLK was trying to win the whole time. Then near the end, it became, no, no, he was trying to lose. I was like, No, no, I was going to the games. He was trying to win. The Patriots are trying to win these games. They're just incompetent. I think it's so bad to take the number three pick, take a quarterback, don't put an offensive line in front of him. Now he can't play the whole year. So he's just basically red shirted this year, and the team sucks anyway. It makes me mad.
It's frustrating. I know you can't like it for sure. And I don't know. I guess there's the Snoop Huntley's back there, but is it going to be that much better, you think? I guess you can pull out a close game here or there. There really isn't a lot. There's not a lot. I look at Flacko, I'm like, Everybody should have that guy. That's spectacular what he does for that team, even though they came up short. But this is not enough of them.
Let's take a break for the podcast. Get ready to tackle the NFL action with FanDuel, America's number one sportsbook. Right now, new customers can bet $5 and get 300 in bonus bets. If you win, you heard me correctly. The FanDuel Sportsbook app gives you everything you need to place live bets on the NFL in one place. When you get a hunch in the middle of the game, check out their latest stats view live, play by play. So much more on the same page where you place your bets. All you have to do is visit fanduel. Com/bs to join today. You'll get started with $300 in bonus bets. If you win your first $5 bet, never waste a hunch. Make every moment more with Fandel, an official sportsbook partner of the NFL. You must be 21 plus and present in select states or 18 plus and present in DC. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as non-metrable bonus bet, which expires seven days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook. Fandil. Com. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-Gambler. Or visit rg-help. Com. So more is the time of leave. Do you believe in the Ravens yet?
They've stolen a couple of games.
Yeah, I do.
Do you see the outrushed opponents by 750 yards this year already in five games? Is that what it is? 110 or 125, 150. Yeah, I can add 150 yards per game more.
You nailed it. You said they're a must watch. What do you call it? A must four box or something?
I said I tweeted Lamar is the king of multi view. He's just got at least regular season. He's got to be on. He's too excited.
Yeah. And you could hate the team and you could hate everyone on them for what they've done to your fantasy team, like Mark Andrews and flowers, and Justin Tucker, these guys. But they are a must watch. I don't know, I feel like they're more dangerous how they did it today than if they have a 10-point lead because we see how they struggle to hold leads. But good luck keeping them under 35 or 30 right in there, because they have different ways to beat you. And Derrick Henry, you could forget about him for a half hour. And it's like, oh, yeah, there's a 35-yard run. They have that at their disposal.
They have a weakness, which is you can throw on them and the bangles threw on them over and over and over again. I was looking at the play-by-play after the game. Starting in the third I think there was six or seven straight touch downs just passing back and forth before that Burrow interception. But they couldn't stop Burrow. Burrow was getting whatever he wanted. It was just a horrific, horrific bangles loss, which we will talk about in our next segment that we have. But if I had to pick an AFC team, I would still pick the Chiefs, but it feels like the Ravens have the most answers, especially with the Bills starting to slide back. The Bills were the Rabbit team. They look good after three games, but there's a lot of holes with the Bills that we can discuss. But it feels like Ravens. The Texans are not knocking anyone's socks off, but they're quietly 4-1. They're going to be 5-1 after next week, and it just feels like they're headed to 12-5, 13-4, and we're not going to understand it. But their quarterback's just fantastic. They have a pass rush. There's enough there that I would bet on the upside with them, don't you think?
I think so. I want to see this Nico Collins injury because that seemed like two different games when he went out for the Texas. So that's what I have to see. But the Ravens are right there. Here's the thing with the Bills. I know everyone wants to kick them to the curb because they had a weird game today, and McDermott, whatever. Two weird games. I'm looking at that division, and they're minus 220 to win that division. The more I look at it, I think nine and eight takes it. I'm not impressed with it. I mean, your team went over. I don't think that the Dolphins claw back. And I think nine is now optimistic for Aaron Rodgers' Jets.
Yeah, the bills on Fandor are minus 220, and the Jets are plus 340, and that seems out of whack because I think the Jets could easily go nine and eight and somehow get the division. The next one for Is it time to believe? How wide open do you think the NFC West is? Because the Niners are two and three.
Yeah.
Arizona once again came back and did some stuff. Went just after last week when we counted them out. Then Seattle is three and two, even though they looked awful today. But talk about nine and eight could take a division. That feels like a nine and eight thing. The Rams are one and four heading into a buy, but they're getting Kup and Nkua back, and I'm not writing them off yet. They're 15 to one on FanDuel to win the division. I'm not writing off the Rams yet, as bad as their defense is.
No, you can't. You can't write off any of those teams. And it is a little bit weird that the Niners are... They're two and three, right? I didn't get this wrong. They're two and three, and they're favorite at minus 115 to take that division. I know they play Seattle Thursday night, but Kyle Shannon has become a master at blowing double-digit leads in the fourth quarter, which wasn't really their thing. Back in the Super Bowl year and the last few years that they've been dominant, and obviously, McCaffrey is a big part of that, as good as the backup has been. But, yeah, no, you can't count any of those teams. Arizona is good.
But, McCafree, he's not on special teams. Special teams has murdered them this whole season. He's not on the defense messing up some of these drives when they just need to stop. So I'm sure they're trying to blame McCafree. But do you feel You think it would be that different with Macafrey?
Well, I think if you're talking about closing out with double-digit leads in the fourth quarter. Yeah, maybe close quarters.
Yeah, you're right. I had on the Houston as a time to believe. Remember we talked in the Futures thought about, could Houston be the one seed? I feel like that's still in play. When you think with the KC receiver injuries and really probably nobody else in the AFC, I wouldn't roll out that one. Is it time to believe Aaron Rodgers might be smaller case washed, not all caps washed.
Aaron Rodgers, I think you could believe that three times every week and then go back to not believing it. He looked like he had a debilitating injury today and then came right back on the field. His body language suggests that he doesn't want to be there a lot of the time. But then it's like, oh, he's yelling at the ref for one of the worst throws we saw all day at the end of the game. In that regard, I'm like, oh, he's back. That Aaron Rodgers is back. But I'll say the hopeful thing is he recognized that Gareth Wilson, who everybody told us we had to take in the top six picks in our fantasy draft.
I have him in two weeks.
He did hit him. How many receptions did he have?
Did he have 10? I thought he had 12. No, he had 12.
Oh, 12, right. Yeah, he had 12. That's promising. But talk about a team that's out of sync. Should be a lot better than they are.
I ran up to take a shower when Rodgers went down because I thought the game was over. It was like, they're carrying them off. It's done. Then I came back down and my daughter's boyfriend was like, Oh, no, no. There was a rough in the kicker call, and now Rodgers was headed to the boot 10 and it just came back in. Then all of a sudden, the Jets were driving. I was like, What just happened? Then they showed the rough in the kicker. It was the worst rough in the kicker call, probably in the history of football.
It was really bad.
Worst case scenario, what's the other one? Running into the kicker, but it's a five-year-older.
That's five, yeah. Yeah, he threw 54 times. And on the other side, I don't know how much you want to talk about the Vikings, but Sam Darnal made that a very winnable game. He was 14 for 31, and he worse. I know his last drive was probably pretty good, probably his best. But I don't know. Maybe he might be a little banged up, too.
I thought he took a hit in the first quarter and was never the same, which, of course, the advertisers didn't notice. I had that for the next Is It Time to Believe. Is It Time to Believe, Sam Darnold and or Derek Carr turning into a pumpkin soon as we head toward Halloween.
Oh, good timing.
Sam was 14 for 31 today and airmailed at least eight, nine throws. Jefferson got pissed at one point, and then he made a couple near the end to basically save the game. But both of those guys... The Vikings are five and out. I'm not going to shit on Sam Darnold, but yet you watch a game like today and you're like, I'm still not going to trust this in January. I'm just not.
Yeah. I think everything has to be perfect for them to be perfect, right? Aaron Jones went out early and their offense was different.
But he's Aaron Jones. That happens to Aaron Jones. Yeah, right.
But an injured-ish Sam Darnold was asked to do more. It really couldn't. I mean, if it wasn't the Jets, such lethargic offense, they would have been in a lot of trouble. But they get the leads, man. They were up 10-0. They did it again.
Got a couple of plays. So you would have Darnold turning into a pumpkin over a car? Who would you pick?
Get to pick one for a pumpkin. We got to see car tomorrow. I'll say Carr, just because I feel that's safe. What's he going to do?
The last one is a time to believe. The rookie QB is Caleb and Daniels. Yeah.
And Bo'Nicks, no? You don't want to throw him in there?
I don't. I started Caleb in one of my league because of this Carolina matchup where they had the worst pass rush in the league. And a bad pass day. I was like, This It was like a perfect match up for Caleb. And of course it was. He looked great. I'm still not 100% sold. I want to see them with a fierce defense, like how they hold up because I don't think they can block. Daniels looks like he's going to be an MVP candidate now.
Yeah. Just so calm.
Especially because we don't have MVP candidates. It's basically him and Lamar. It was Brock Purdy until he lost that game today. And Josh Allen is free-falling. So I don't even know who the MVP candidates are.
But your boy Stroud jumped to second. He's plus 600. Mahomes, they still keep him steady at plus 270, and Lamar Jackson's plus 650. But yeah, Jaden is now a sizable minus 210 favorite for offensive rookie of the area, and he looks so poised and everything. I don't want to make too much out of it because he beat up a fraudulent team. I'm sure we'll talk about in a minute. But man, he looks good. He looks good. And Caleb Williams looks like that bear's offense is weird when it's clicking, right? It seems like everything's going downhill. I'm very impressed with actually both of them, Daniels, especially. But after a month, for them to be where they are is pretty cool.
So the last one I have Well, who would you bet on right now with MVP? Because we talked about this when Alan looked like he was the prohibitive MVP favorite after three weeks, and we were like, this never works. There was that Russell Wilson moment. What was that? Four years ago, and people were like, Russ has never won an MVP, and this is his year after four. Every year, there's a guy after three, four games, we get all excited, and then it just flips in two weeks. If you had to bet on any of these dudes, would it be Stroud? Stroud fits a lot of the model because they're going to be their one or two seed. I thought he was spectacular today, even though the points maybe didn't reflect it, but I thought he did a lot of great stuff today. When they lost Collins, they didn't have their starting. They basically had a mixer of Collins, and he kept them hanging around that camp.
Right. I think you have to take Stroud at 6 to 1 because he does fit that. What do you need to be? Like a top two seed? Top two seed. Maybe they don't get first, but they should get second. I, on the other hand, have to take Dak motherfucking Prescott at 25 to 1. No, I won't do that.
Those are bad odds.
I'm going to stick with Josh Allen. I still think by default, the Bills are going to have a hefty win total, and I I like it at plus 750.
Daniel Dimes at 201.
Is he up there? Wow. Yeah.
Good for him. He's my next is the time to believe. That was an awesome game he played today. I had Seattle. I had a first half game bet on Seattle. The game should have been over in the first half. They were dominating. They had a stupid turnover right in the goal line. But Dimes was awesome. Dimes looked like the Dimes from two years ago. And they didn't have Malik Nabors, which was one of the reasons I thought Seattle was going to have it, because Malik Nabors was their whole offense. All of a sudden, these other receivers got involved. Some random running back that I guarantee didn't start for anybody. He probably had 100 yards Maybe more.
Tyrone Tracy, everybody picked him up Saturday night in their fantasy league, and he had 129 yards.
But I thought Dimes controlled the game. And he was in Seattle. I mean, Seattle, they're missing dudes all over on their defense. They a little fraudulent, maybe to begin with, but I thought Dimes was the best part in the field.
I wish I could be smarter about these games. I wish you and I could talk Friday and be like, All right, this was five and a half, six, and now Nabors is out, and he's the only one who could stretch the field. Who the hell? Singletary is out, whatever. He's a running back. But who were you afraid of on the Giants at this point? Oh, and it jumped to seven, the line. I wish I could see that. I'm like, Oh, there's nice value in that. No, I always have to go the other way. Seahawks' teaser. But you're right, they could have this game by three touch downs. If they call that a different... I feel like if there's another angle on that one-yard plunge that went 99 the other way, that easily could have been a giant... Yeah, they could have won this game. It could have been well over in the third quarter.
Well, here's why week four Week 5 is so much fun because now you look back at the Giants games, and we crossed them off. We were like, They suck. So they lose to Minnesota 28 to 6 in Week 1. Turns out, Minnesota is a 5-0 team with a really good defense, and the Giants weren't ready for it. Week 2, they lose to Washington, 21-18. And the takeaway from that game is, Well, why didn't they have a backup field goal kicker? Basically, if they had a field goal kicker, they win the game. Week 3, they beat Cleveland at Cleveland. Going. Go ahead. Week 4. What?
No, they should have beat Dallas. That's what's coming next.
Yeah, they'd lost to Dallas. They could have. And easily could have won. They could have. And then they win in Seattle. The Giants might actually be pretty good. And this was their hardest stretch of the season. So they have home, Cincy, home, Philly, at Pittsburgh, home, Washington. And then they're going to London for at Carolina Week 10. But They might get to five and five after 10 games. It's not inconceivable. I think the NFC is going to be bizarre.
No, I know. I'm nervous about when we play them again. I think they could split with Washington Washington and Philly. They played Philly tough last year. Wendell Robinson is making TikToks in the locker room, getting screamed at by Dable. It's a fun team all of a sudden.
So I think the Giants aren't in pole position for Belichick anymore. Oh, really? He was at Jackson on that. I think Steven Ruiz, I think he was right.
They do have division odds up now for that.
What is it? Give it to me.
It's still the Eagles plus 130, Commanders plus 200, Cowboys, 260. You're Giants, 20 to 1. Take the Giants and the Rams.
Now, we said Washington last week. Remember when we did that a week ago, Washington was plus 360.
Yeah, we change our mind all the time.
But we were just saying that's good value, and that's 2 to 1.
Yeah, now it's down to.
The last one for Is it time to believe? Is I know the Bengals, and we're going to talk about in a second that they blew that game, but the Bengals' offense, like the Burrow stats and the two receivers going, the Bengals' offense is back. That's like the fantasy offense where it's like, I'm just getting Burrow and I'm getting both receivers. I think that's what we're going to get the rest of the way.
Yeah, five touch downs and close games for Burrow. I'm with you. Burrow is great. Something's just not right otherwise. Yeah. I mean, what do you have? Just to Higgins and Chase, it was like 280 yards. But yeah, look, he's on fire. Just can't win.
Now it's time for today's player bundle segment presented by State Farm. It's tough to crown the best play in football history. No one can deny the magic when the right two players work together to pull off the unexpected. I'm not just saying this because you're here, but one of the first great football plays I ever saw was the Pearson play. Oh, look at that. Stal back to Pearson. Watch that one with my dad. It seemed like he pushed off, but I didn't know any better. I was like, five.
Oh, no.
Push But that was considered to be one of the original Hale Marys, even though it wasn't really a Hale Mary. But you had stopped back. What was your best combo? Was it Akeman Irving?
There's been so. I mean, yeah, I think it would have to be Akeman Irving.
Mine is Moss-Brady. Moss-brady '07 or mid-2010s, Bradley Gronk would be my 1A1B. Moss-brady, 2007 was one of the greatest sports experiences of my entire life, right until the end.
Are you going to cry?
All the way through was so much fun. That first time when they were in FU mode after Spygate, that was the most fun I've ever had as a football fan. I loved it so much.
Will you please give...
We just unleashed Moss.
Please give Jacobi Set to Mario Douglas a chance before you lock in on a...
Who would be Jalen Polk, who was wide open to go ahead and touch down, except Brissette sailed it almost over his head.
That's your guy.
Well, you know what else is better together? Bundling your home and auto insurance with the personal price plan from State Farm. It's a personal price plan that you call the place so you can choose the right coverage at a price that's right for you. Talk to a State Farm agent today to learn how you can bundle and save with the personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by State. Coverage options are selected by customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by State.
Okay. Dez Romo is my favorite. Dez and Romo. Let's restart the ad. Start the ad over.
Yeah, I got to say Dez Romo. All right, we're going to do a week five incompetency draft because there's a lot of incompetency today. I'm going to give you the first pick. Who do you have? All right.
Okay, I am going to take for this. I'm going to take my aunt Chippie because she's always leaking. She's 84 years old, God bless her. Did you say incontinency?
No, incompetency. Incompetency.
Yes, I thought you said incontinency.
People being incompetent.
My Lisa is going to be very different from yours.
Auntie's leaking?
No, she's fine. She's fine. She listens. I'm in a lot of trouble here.
No way she's listening.
She loves Brown's talk. All right, let me start it off because I don't know why The shit has hit the fan with these Browns, but the Haslams. Yes, D and Jimmy Haslams. I'm not blaming Stefansky anymore for having the Sean Watson in there. I refuse to think that he thinks this is winning formula. And I don't even know why the Haslams are doing it. They know they can make the playoffs without them. They did it last year. I know they have to pay him a lot of money. I think you may have hit on something. I don't know if you meant it this way, but are they playing him in the hopes that he gets hurt? Now, salary-wise, that wouldn't matter. They're still on the hook for all of it, even if he got hurt. But maybe they're just setting them up, like Tony Soprano set up Feech LaMana, right? Remember, he was like, Yeah, I'm watching that season right now.
I want him to suffer.
That's the best. It's so good. That might be what's going on here, but honestly, just start anyone else, and you could probably win a lot of these games. When the QBR number is in the seven, 8.3 every week, enough already. What are you doing to these fans? These are winnable games.
Well, first of all, they're not a playoff team, and I think it's way more fun to have Watson being historically bad every week. The tweets are really fun. Austin Gale always has these tweets about, Through five weeks, this is the worst offense in Cleveland history. Through five weeks, this is the worst offense since 2018. He was 15 for 28 today for 125 yards. They were one for 13 on third down, and they averaged 3.6 yards per play. Said 17 starts, and he's never thrown for 300. He was my first pick. Never thrown for 300 for them.
What do you think is going on? What do you think is going on, honestly?
I think he's the most disliked local NFL player by a fan base. Oh, yeah. That I can remember. Has any fan base disliked a player more than this? Who are the Deshawn fans in Cleveland at this point? This guy has literally ruined your entire decade of football.
I don't remember a guy holding a city hostage for a single sport like this. I think there's probably you can name a bunch of basketball players that stuck around a little too long, maybe cost some But this is just bizarre because you have last year to compare it to, and they had four quarterbacks, maybe even five by the time it was over, and they made the playoff. So yes, they're stuck with this contract. They're never going to dig their way out in the next five, seven years, whatever. But yes, they could also make the... Not this year. They're not making the playoff this year. But what the hell did Jameis Winston do that they don't want to put him in? It's outrageous now.
So there's three possible theories. You asked me, what are they doing? One is the sinister theory. They're hoping he gets hurt. Two is he's a sunk cost. The moment you punt on this, you've basically ruined the next two, three years of your team anyway. You just have him on the bench, sulking. He's going to be such a cancer that you almost feel like you're better off just having him out there praying and hoping that the talent comes back. You turn it around. Then the third thing I think would be just sheer stubbornness. This owner is just a crazy rich guy. He's like, No, he's going to be fine. He's going to be fine. I was watching some 2019 Texan's tapes yesterday. He's going to come back.
He's not going to be fine.
It doesn't seem like he has any zip on his throes anymore.
Nothing. It doesn't seem like he cares. Nothing really matters. I even He gave him a little bit of a pass last week because he had two big plays called back. But then he goes right back to being 2024 to Sean Watson. Frame them like feets is what I say. I'll make the T-shirts.
It's a really weird thing to have a sunk cost on a team. We had it on the Celtics with Vin Baker when it was just clear he wasn't going to be able to play. Then you just go to the salaries and you're just like, Oh, my God. We're not getting out of this for three more years. It's almost an entire presidential It's a special term. There's no outs. We can't trade him. Just play him again. Maybe he'll get better. So it feels like they're still in the maybe he'll get better stage, but he's not going to get better.
Can Stefansky make a statement and be like, Listen, I'm a two-time Coach of the Year winner. You people don't honestly think that I think this is our best path to winning, right? Just, Future employers, please know that I have a gun to my head here, and this is all has some hassle.
Well, it's like first year at JKL. It's like Daniel had to do a bunch of stuff that ABC wanted him to do, and he didn't get to follow his vision for the show.
Okay. All right. That's what happened, I think. I think that's what happened. Beach, Daniel.
There are no outs. I don't know what they do. If I'm a Cleveland fan, I don't know if I'd be able to watch anymore. What's funny is, six weeks ago, they were still... You picked Cleveland for the playoffs. You're like, either Watson will come back or he'll suck and they'll just put in somebody else. And this is still a nine or 10-win team. But nobody ever predicted the scenario. Watson is still going to be awful, and they're just going to leave him in every week, and that's how it's going to go.
And the defenders, you talk about the city hate him. The rest of the team has got to be done with them. The defense is good. They're They're going to regress to the mean now. I think they're 13th or 14th in the league. It's like, that's because it's three and outs all the time for the offense. The defense can't be dynamite like it was. I know Miles Garrett has two foot injuries and everything else.
All right, I'm going to take Kyle Shana in for all the reasons we talked about. The Niners are two and three, which is inexcusable. They've had two of the worst losses of the season. They're own two in the West, they're own three in the NFC. I disagree with their strategy stuff, especially in the fourth quarters. They just do dumb shit, and they just are super sloppy and have so much talent, and especially when you're going all in and doing the Iuk extension and some of the other stuff they've done where they're basically like, This is our window we have to win. I know it's early in the NFL, and I know we're going to zigzag a million times, but sloppy is always a bad sign, and they seem super sloppy. I think Purdy had two picks today, but I think Purdy has actually kept them in some of these games. I just think he's been really good.
I'm with you. Unlike the Browns, the Niners have a quarterback who's too good for the team to be two and three. Yeah. He's played really well. He makes good throws. Yeah, definitely.
The stats don't back up how some of the stuff he's doing and how he's keeping plays alive. I don't even think their offensive line has been that good.
Right.
I'm with you. That's a good one. Yeah, Shana and... I don't get it. All right, you go.
All right. Okay, Incompetency Award. I'll give mine to Jason Garrett during a weather delay.
Oh, boy. I'm so glad you brought this up.
That was something else. That team just add living for an extra hour.
They had 12 people and we're somehow completely taken aback. It was basically doing a podcast.
It's like us right now. They need another 12. Exactly. They need 24 people. And you really got some insight because... I'm sorry, Jason. Jason Gareth. I wish I didn't hate him so much, but I don't need Jason Gareth breaking down Sean McDermott's coaching decisions. You were the worst. This is like a dog reprimanding a human for peeing in the bushes. I don't want to hear anything you have to say about coaching. So there you go.
It's like, now to talk about some poor treatment of women, we're going to bring in Ted Bundy.
Here he is. It's like, no.
Come on, Ted. I thought it was so funny that Jack Collinsworth ran out of material and they couldn't go back to him. I don't know, maybe it was the lightning delay, but maybe Jack, Matthew Berry had his one fantasy pick. They just had the four people in the studio just going for 40 minutes. I was dying. I thought it was so funny. They're like, Jason, do you have any Romo stories? He's just smiling and laughing and looking at the McCordy brother. I was dying.
That was great. An hour and a half. An hour and a half.
If they knew ahead of time that that was going to happen, what do you think they would have scheduled?
I don't know. You know what? Here's an idea. Chris Collins talking to the coaches or something. I have no idea. Something.
Here's an idea, because this kills on social media. Just show different locker room speeches. Those are always great. That's good. Just be like, Let's look at what Harba told the Ravens after the game. Show and then come back. Jason Garrix could just be smiling like a baby. I feel like they could... It was just really funny. Okay. Sean McDermott. Can't believe it took this long to get to him in Buffalo. 2020, they rallied back somehow. They're on the three-yard line, 32 seconds left, and just need to get it to overtime. Houston has three timeouts. Anyone who has ever played a video game knows, run the ball three times, make them use all their timeouts. They're going to get the ball with about 11 seconds left, no timeouts, hopefully unlike their 40, and there won't be enough time to do anything. What do they do? Allen just chucks it downfield three times in a row. Houston gets the ball back. Stroud plays it perfectly. Fairborn hits a 59-yarder, and Houston wins the game. Some of the worst coaching we've seen. Even Doug Peterson was like, Wow, that was dumb.
Wow. I couldn't believe it. He owned it, McDermott, right? He said he blamed himself, which is good. Did he own it? Oh, yeah. No, he said he was like, It was poor coaching down the stretch by me. That's on me. But he did say it. But I think what these coaches have to realize is everybody's kicking 60 yarders on the other way. So even if you were normally going to go forward, take a chance by your five or 10, just know that everybody's one first down away. In fact, I get with anunciors now where they're excited by a 55-yard field goal. It's like, all right. It's like we used to be when we show someone flip a bottle and it would land upright.
Yeah, the guy in the Viking's made two of them today, and it was like, he had just shown up in the league yesterday.
Very strange.
So Allen was 9 for 30 for 131 yards, and Buffalo was 3 for 14 on third down. And they're like, let's just chuck it from our own three. Really grim. What do you have?
I'm going to go... All right. We've talked about this, the NFL schedule makers. The 4:05 start. Let's say you have a quartet of afternoon games. Two of them start 4:25. 4:05 start. And let me tell you something, almost always one of those two 405 starts, there's a shutdown within 35 seconds. And we can't catch our breath from the great endings.
That was today, the Raiders. 7:00, nothing. Raiders, five seconds.
7:00, And Kyla Murray scored early, right? Yeah, and the other one.
I missed both of them.
And I know we could live bet, so it's not as bad as it used to be, but you lose a lot of value in the Arizona when they score, and then they go behind and your head starts playing games. Make it 4:15 and 4:25. 4:15, that makes a world of difference instead of 4:05.
I have some advice for our beloved friends at YouTube.
Yeah.
One of my favorite relationships. They have to fix it. So the multi-view, if there's the one game from the earlys that's bleeding into the late games, I need to be able to multi-view. And that happened with the Ravens. Couldn't watch the Ravens, but multi-view with the late games. They just need to fix that.
Right. So the 4:05, so you're saying there's two kickoffs before the two main kickoffs. You want to see those?
Yeah, I only have one early game left, and I have all the late games. Just give me a new multi-view.
Can't be hard.
Zack Taylor, I'm picking. In in the competency draft. They have four losses by 15 points. They completely choked against the Chiefs and the Ravens. Today, they got a gift of an OT fumble recovery from Lamar, who was fantastic today. And that somehow, shotgun snap off the face, and it looked like yet another dumb late game Lamar moment. We were like, God, why can't he figure out this one little piece? They get the ball, and they played it. To say they played it safe would be an understatement. They just basically ran in 10 guys three times in a row to set up a 54-yarder for McPherson, and bad hold, he misses it. The Ravens get the ball back. Henry runs down, and they win. Zack Taylor is 10 and 21 now in the AFC North. Do you know this? Is that what it is? The three teams he has to beat every year, he plays twice a year. He's 10 and 21 now.
Wow. That's not good. It's not good. Can I suggest- You know what else is good? Go ahead.
Last playoff team to go one and four and then make the playoffs, Washington in 2020. Apparently, the odds are 5.6%.
For the Bambles. 2020, that's with the new- COVID year. Yeah, but that... Okay. So that includes obviously this extra team and everything. Well, I don't even remember that, Washington. What are you going to say? Oh, yeah, yes, I do. No, I think it should be Zack Taylor, but it should be a dual entry with Lou Anarumo because I had him written down like, this guy was the greatest defensively, right? Like, oh, my God, I think I liked him because he was Italian. But 30th in the league in scoring defense now, like 30th. They have to be better. I'm 520 yards versus the Ravens. As good as the Ravens are, you shouldn't in a must win at home allow 520 yards.
What's Soprano's character is Louis Amarillo, where it's like he was really good in the early seasons, but now It's like, wow, I'm ready for this guy to get whacked.
Maybe a little Artibuco.
I don't know. The Artibuco. I got some great view for you today. Have a seat. I got a great wine to go with it.
Ladies, let me take these menus. You won't be needing them today.
I'm going to just draft two in a row here. Robert Salah, who's now 20 and 36. We make fun of him every week. Just going to that. He's still one of the 20 worst coaches of all time by winning percentage, if you want to throw that out there. The Doug Peterson-Trevor Lawrence combo. These guys, even when they win, it feels like a loss. What the hell? They just can't help themselves. Classic first quarter, they turn it over on downs because, of course, they do. They can't help that. Then they get inside, and I'm watching with Zoe's boyfriend, and I'm like, Watch this. Watch the Jaguars. Watch how stupid they are. It's like first goal inside the hit. I'm Watch this. This is going to be amazing. They end up, they do the three terrible plays, and now it's like fourth and goal from the two. And Peterson actually was like, I can't do it again. And he just kicks the field goal. Even he's seen enough on fourth down. And the Colts were just dying to give away the game, and the Jags finally took it. They gave up an 85-yard touch down to Thomas.
Lawrence actually hit two long throws, but that team, even when it's their day and they should be winning by 15, they're still pulling it out, they're stabbing off Joe Flacko at the end, and they're barely winning this Indy team that was dying to just roll over for them.
It's mystifying with them. First of all, I couldn't believe it. Trevor Lawrence has two interceptions this year. I would have thought it was seven.
I would have guessed 11.
They didn't cover. The line was two and a half all week. It shot up to three and a half. I was, and a lot of people that they won by three. Ridiculous. Why is it? They're Defensively, they have the Josh Allen who changed his name. They have Javon Walker. They should be all over teams, right? Now you have Tank Bigsby in there. What the hell is that? Who looks amazing. Yeah, he looked amazing. Thirteen carries for 101 yards. Why aren't they winning games by 17? Especially games where he could have been fired. Like you said, Doug Peterson. This would have been 10 in a row if they lost this, and now he gets to go to London. Yeah, I think he's fired. Oh, even so.
No, I think if they lose, I think that's it.
Oh, yeah, that. But he'll go to London now for his two games.
Do you have any other picks? Because I have a couple more.
I just have another scheduling thing, WMBA schedule makers, head-to-head with NFL Sunday, three weeks in a row. You could see ahead of time, the schedule, guys, girls, whoever. I wanted to watch those games. To be honest, we have money on them.
Wmba had this amazing moment this season to get as many eyeballs as possible on their most important games and stuck to the schedule that they did 15 years ago when it was counter programming and completely blew it. I actually wanted to watch those games, and there's no way I'm watching anything other than football on a Sunday. No, you can't. You know the day. This isn't rocket science. Friday night is going to be your awesome night. The ratings are great on that. Wednesday night is another awesome one. You're not going against anything. Tuesday night. And then try to figure out a Monday, Thursday, and maybe some Saturday. Just squeeze some windows in. But don't go... You have a chance to blow this league out and make this really a pretty mainstream league. It's not going to happen going against the NFL.
Okay. So the question, just like it is with the stubborn Browns owners, is why? Why are they doing this? Who's telling them they should do this?
It's TV money and it's ESPN because ESPN wants that programming on a Sunday. That's the reason. And they need to They need to go to ESPN. The NBA was in the same situation 40 years ago with the NBA Finals, which were being tape delayed and yanked around. It really hurt the league. And CBS was like, What do you expect us to do? We're going to take off Dallas? We're not going to do that. We're going to take off Duke's a hazard? Fuck you. And then finally, they figured it out. They started putting the games on primetime on CBS, and it was the Bird Magic Finals in '84, and the league took off, and the WMBA is blowing it, and they have to fix it. No doubt about it. These games should be on not against football, or if you're going to do football, try to do it so that, all right, Monday night football starts at 8:15 Eastern Time. Then put a WMBA game on it. Put a playoff game on at 6:00. So you're getting all the casual fans who want to like the league.
I haven't even looked. I can guarantee you game two or three of the WMBA Finals is next Sunday.
I really wanted to watch those games today. We have the Lynx bet. I'm into this. Yes. The Liberty Beat the Aces. It's ridiculous. Next year, they had... I get it. They didn't know what was going to happen to the league and the Caitlin boom and all that stuff. I get this year, you can make excuses, but next year, there's no excuses. They have to figure it out.
I'm holding the feet to the fire. You got another one?
I have the NFL concussion spotters because it seemed like Josh Allen got knocked out.
Yeah.
Like, just knocked out. And they showed replays and his head hit the turf as hard as you can hit it. And it it so hard, it did the bounce back almost like a knocked out boxer when the boxer and they go, Oh, man. The rep will just stop it. If the guy hit the head, hits it twice, he goes out, and then he comes back in. It's like, Yeah, they think he's spraying his ankle. It was like, we have replay. Like Chris Nwinsky, our friend who has been the big... He was going nuts. It was like, Just no question that something bad happened. And by the way, he sucked the rest of the game.
I was saying the same thing like, Hey, guys, there's cameras. There's angles. They're showing replays. They're showing everything. You're not going to get around this. If this is protocol, you got to test this guy. You can't just throw smelling salts underneath them, and that's that. Yeah, that was a bad one. How about this? We've done what? We've done 13 incompetence groups, and we haven't mentioned referees once. I'm not going to. I don't have anything major complaints today, but that's pretty amazing for 2024.
Yeah, I agree with you. The refs haven't been that bad. I'll do some quickies. The bangles field goal holder. Joe House on million dollar picks instead of doing packers minus three, pushing me to do packers over 26 and a half. They're on 24 for two hours. He loves them. I'm never doing that again. House is like, I just want to bet the spreads. To me, the over-unders are roulette. It's like, Play roulette. It's been black eight times in a row. Bet red, bet red. And I just feel like it's fucking random. I'm not doing that.
The good thing is you could get lucky with a A defensive shutdown.
No, a house can fuck off. Seattle's defense was the only team to give up 17 plus to New England, got murdered last week by Detroit, give up 175 rushing yards to the Giants today. Mike McDaniel, I just want to shout out. Lombardi nicknamed him the Dish Jockey two weeks ago, and it's his best nickname since the Clapper. The Dish Jockey, he was spinning today with Hunt, with the 15 points against New England, He's missing 100 guys. And then our guy Raheem Palmer, I'm putting him in the competency draft. Really? What? Texas during the Browns game. I'm done with this stupid Browns team. It's like, why were you not done with the Browns? I get staying away from Washington, but you're really betting on Deshawn Watson?
Come on, Raheem. I thought that was my rat line. I thought, why the hell Washington hasn't punted in three weeks? Why is that line only three? Browns haven't gone over team total forever.
Jordan love Pota Will Levis. Yeah. Gardner-minschuh, the Raiders were dominating. It felt like the first 40 minutes of that Broncos game, they drive down, he throws a pick six, and the team completely falls apart, and he ends up getting bench-frayed in O'Neill.
He ate a booger, too, while on the bench. I don't know if you saw it online. So that wasn't even his worst moment.
I saw that on TV, and I was like, I hope that that sure looked like he was eating a booger. Yeah, So that's what it was?
I mean, that's what they say. It's from the nose to the mouth. Yeah, I think that's what he did. Maybe it was salt.
And then D. K. Metcalf, Hinch said he has eight fumbles in his career.
I thought it was nine since 2019 or something. Nine? Yeah, for a receiver. That's spectacular.
Horrible.
I have a couple more. You mentioned Levis. What do you got? Well, Levis, I just throw him in there. He didn't even play this week, but how could he still be this bad? We saw these three guys, these three rookies, pick up the game in less than a month, and Levis is still throwing the side arm into the teeth of the defense. Who else do I want to say? I think that was a good one. Big favorites in the NFL. We covered it. But okay, You're done kicking our ass in money line parlays. Can you just beat teams like the Panthers and Raiders and just give us a chance to win money, please? Please out there.
Can we just go back to some stability? Yeah. The stability of two favorites between six and a half and eight and a half points. Can I just tease them and win both sides, please?
We'll ease into it. How about just that the two biggest favorites every week don't lose? How about just one of them loses? Let's do that.
Let's start there. Can you imagine? I remember I was doing these underdog parlays two years ago, none of them were hitting. If I was doing that this year, we would have been up a cajillion units. It is time for Guest Alliance Week 6. I think you're going to beat me because I guess these 12 hours ago in any- I don't know.
I don't know. I was off on a few.
Thursday night, a shockingly important game, 49ers at Seahawks. If the Niners win, both of these teams will be three and three. If the Niners lose, they'll be two and four, and the Seahawks will be four and two. Wow. I think the 49ers are I'm going to say 49ers by two.
All right. You edged me out. I was like, Hey, let's start the week with a perfect one and a half, which is my favorite. You said two. It's a full three.
They didn't like what they saw with the Giants.
Three on the road.
The Seahawks are missing people, and I'm not ready to write them off yet because they can throw the ball. They didn't do a great job of it today, but they had a bizarre game plan today. Their running backs only had seven carries. They just the Giants were just controlling the ball, and it felt like the Seahawks panicked. When they got the ball, they were like, We can throw in these guys, and they just got away from who they are.
You mentioned the Metcalf fumble, but yeah, that offense should be way more in sync than it is. The one thing I'll say about this line is, don't the Niners, doesn't it seem like they need all the days to get healthy? Like Kittle doesn't practice on Wednesday or any of these guys. Thursday game might be tough for them, especially going to Seattle also.
I'd like to thank Juan Jennings, who I've had on my bench for three weeks. And then finally, I was like, you know what? You've earned it. I'm going to start today, buddy. 1.9 points for him. The Sunday... Oh, we got to go London game. We're back in London. Is Rich Eisen still there? Does he just stay there?
He doesn't leave. What happens?
Jag's bears. This is something.
Technically, a bear's home game.
This is something. Something really, really horribly incompetent is going to happen in this game. I have a lean on who it's going to be, but I think the Jags have to be favorite. I'm going to say Jags minus one.
Damn it. Oh, we tie. Okay. I had one also. It's the bears minus one and a half.
Oh, Jesus.
A lot of love for the bears.
Why do you think that is? They definitely They have a little bit of a pass rush. There's no question. They can throw the ball against bad defenses. I would say those would be the two things I would like about them.
What advantage do you give, spread-wise, to the Jaguars in London, even though it's not technically their home game? Half a point? Because they're there, they win there, they're very good there.
Yeah, I would say half a point to a They're used to going there.
And so the bears on a neutral field are that much better then.
I think that line flips. It's a weird one. Sunday's marquee game. Kudos to us. We finally have a Ravens Washington meaningful football game. Surf war. Can't remember this ever happening.
It's a good one.
Is it?
When would they have been good at the same time?
Like 2012, maybe?
Rg3? Yeah, maybe right around there.
It's in Baltimore. I had the Ravens by three and a half.
Okay, good. I get this. I said four and a half, it's six and a half.
Oh, my God. I'm way off.
Way up there.
Jesus. There's cheap touch down potential. Listen, Washington is going to be able to throw on Baltimore, just period. That line's too high.
Yeah, they just don't respect them. Like, they do the bears. They're only link three to Cleveland.
Washington, the ball doesn't touch the ground when you watch Washington. It's just completions. They're all over the place and they have speed. I like it. Watchables. Saints Bucks is a watchable. Kudos to the NFC South. What a turnaround. What a rehabilitation. I'm excited to watch this game. I have us.
I'm done. I'm done with the South. I got it. Give me your number.
I didn't say it to bet on it, but I like watching it. I had fun on Thursday night. I enjoy watching the Falcons. I feel like I've watched every Falcons game. I have Saints minus three.
We're going to split it. I said two, and it's two and a half. What's fun about it? The NFC South, I get it. Whoever should win doesn't win. We get it. Tampa should have won that game.
If you don't finish the game in the last two minutes, then That means you lost it.
Yeah, I get it. It's fine. I'm just not interested anymore. Why couldn't I have just enjoyed my Mets and not watch that game? That sent me in a tailspin at Tampa loss.
Lyons at Dallas. I'm going to change my pick on this because I would have said Lyons minus three, but since she won and looked confident, I'm going to knock that down by a half point and say Lyons favored by two and a half in Dallas.
Good by you. I said Dallas minus one. I'm still a delusional hopeful fan here, but it is Detroit by three.
You get that. My original guess was the right guess.
Yeah. That's a tough match up for you. That's on a little high. I know they're going to throw on us. I know.
You'd a lot of guys I've never heard of on defense.
Yeah, and don't expect them to make a name for themselves. They played well against Pittsburgh.
This is a little different than playing Justin Fields.
Well, you remember in Dallas last year, these two played, right? I think it was a Saturday night, and there was a controversial call against the Lions that I'm still upset about. I still don't think they got that right. Very, very upsetting.
Fairly watchable. It was eagles home for the Browns. I just don't see how the Browns can't be in the Vegas zone now every time. I'm going to say EGLE's by four and a half, or eagles by four and a half over the Browns.
I went high. I went seven. It's eight and a half. Eight and a half.
Lord. Oh, that's absurd. I don't know for this. Should the EGLE be favorite by eight and a half over anybody?
Well, they definitely have the rest advantage from the buy All right, how many points of the Brown score? Thirteen?
I don't think the Eagles should be favorite by that much over any team.
What if the Brown score was- We were wondering if their coach was going to get fired over the buy.
Now they're eight and a half point favorites. That seems weird.
13, 16, 15, 18, 17. So if the Eagles score is 22- The Black Jack Browns.
The Black Jack Browns, 17th That's it. Packers are home for the Cardinals. We're a packers game today. They have this tight end that I picked up in all my legs, and he was a delight today. He's turned into Rob Gronkowski. Crap. But Dubs didn't play. Watson's hurt. Go figure. So they're down to basically the two receivers and Kraft, but it didn't really matter against the lines.
And you said it. I think you said love pull the Levis, right? Yeah. You don't usually win a game like that when you give up a pick six.
It's so horrific. It's like 99% chance. I have a baseball play off nitpick. They put the win probability at the top now? Yeah. Who's that for? Like, morons?
I don't know.
Who's that for? Haven't we paid enough homage to the nerds that we now have to win probability? It's like, the Dodgers are up 8-0. The ninth, their win probability is 99 %. It's like, oh, is it? It's really likely they're going to win. The Mets came back. They were only 10% win probability. It's like, do we need win probability to describe a comeback? We need a stat to say that something was awesome.
Who started this?Couple of bad things about it.Just.
Fucking watch the game.
It's really stupid. Yes, there's so many other stats I'd rather see than win probability. I'd like to see what the guy-It was down and then it was up.
They were there at 3%, then it was 70%.
Who cares? Also, it can't be great for viewership. If you're telling the viewer, Hey, the Phillies have a 93% chance of winning, the viewer might be like, Oh, all right, I'm going to go put on the Liberty in Assa. Like, Why do I have to watch? So it's not...
Psychologically, it's not the best idea. Does baseball just... Baseball doesn't want their fans to have any natural reaction to watching. It just has to... It's all AI now?
Yeah, it's all AI.
It's like, Oh, I really wish the Phillies could come back here, but The win probability says we only have a 2% chance.
No, they're done. Espn loves that more than anything. I hate it. I don't like it either.
I don't get it. They have it in the second ending. It's 75% chance to win. So there's 22 more outs.
I don't even believe it, honestly.
A million things can happen.
I don't even... And in the NBA, I hate it the most because we see someone overcome a 17-point deficit three times a week in the NBA, right?
More. Somebody's down 17, they hit five threes.
How are you making that 95%? It's stupid.
The worst. I hate win probability. You just don't like it because you don't understand it. You're an old man.
I understand. You're an old man.
How about this? I won't watch the game. Just text me what the win probability is. I'll get super excited. Like, Oh, they're up to 88%? I need to watch the game.
Anyone tells me a win probability at a party, I smack them in the face and I move on to the next guess. That's a great point.
When have you ever had a I don't say shit with anyone in a social setting where it's like, Hey, did you guys see the Colts win probability? It's like 78% right now. It's like, What? I thought it would have been like 67.
Is that just 78?
Hold on, I'm going to tell Bobby.
Everybody's going to do this to you now.
The Colts are 78% win probability now. I thought it was going to be like 65.
What the fuck are we doing? Zoe's boyfriend is going to hit you with this tomorrow.
Who is?
Zoe's boyfriend is going to do this to you now tomorrow. Now everybody's going to hit you with win Bill Simmons eviscerates win probability. It's over. Of course, he doesn't understand it. What's my win probability? He's old. He's stupid. You know what? We're four. All right, you have four. I have four. We haven't guessed this one yet. Nephew Kyle, we want win probabilities after every pick. You understand?
From that one. My win probability is 53% right now.
Guess the line, because I could give up. If it gets to 75, I could walk away.
There One of the Mets games, it was like two nothing in the seventh. The other team had like an 89% win probability. It was like, nobody trusts a single reliever on any baseball team. How do you have an 80% win probability? You're two-run lead.
No, I want to see it one-nothing in the third ending. That's when you really want to see.
They did it after the Alonso, that incredible Alonso homer. It's like, Oh, what was the win probability when he hit that? It's like, Oh, it was 96%. It's like, Cool. Can I also just enjoy the Pete Alonso homer? Because that was really cool. Do I need a stat?
Yeah. You got a number covering his face as he's rounding the basis.
I like stats. I'm in the stats, but the win probability is too far. Fucking send a packing. Packers home for the cards. I said packers by four.
Shit. You get it. I said five and a half, and it's four and a half.
My win probability is up to 56%.
It really might be.
Chargers at the Broncos. I don't know who's going to be playing for the Chargers. They've been on a buy week, and they've had a bunch of starters out.
I hit this exactly. The Broncos.
Broncos are not bad. This feels like a one and a halfer.
You don't want to think they are? Yeah, I said two and a half. It's two and a half. Chargers favorite, right?
That's what you had. I had chargers one and a half. Yeah, it's chargers two and a half. It's two and a half?
Yeah. Is Denver poor man's Pittsburgh?
I said to our buddy guys, huge Broncos fan. I was like, The fucking Broncos are going to be nine and six after week 16, and we're all going to be like, How did this happen? How are they nine and six? Let's go through their wins, and each win's terrible.
Did he agree? I mean, I wonder how Broncos fans feel about it.
I think they're like, Shh.
Yeah. Don't tell anyone. Yeah, very weird. I mean, the defense is better than I anticipate it. I mean, Payton's got him going in. Bohnick's got better, too. I don't know. Who do you think has the best defense right now? Well, the Steelers had allowed eight points a game before tonight.
Well, I don't think they have the best. I don't know who it is. No? I think it's Who is it? I don't think they're the best defense anymore.
Patriots?
Definitely not. Let's keep going. Steelers.
Wait, who is it? You buried the lead.
I don't think there's a best defense. Oh, there's not a best defense. I think it's Kansas City, actually. If I had to trust the defense to make a stop in the fourth quarter and just get the offense back on the field, I'd pick KC. Stealers at Los Vegas, and I'm going to say Stealers by three.
Yeah, we both got this. It's exactly three.
Poopfecta, Texas at the Pats. Texas, they have be at least six, and I'm going to say six and a half over the Pats.
Yeah, you got it. I went light on it. I said five and a half. It is a full seven.
That pass rush is going to be a big problem. This is not a game to start, Drake May.
Well, you know what's a big problem, you're going to win because favorites of seven or more haven't won in 13 years or something. So congratulations on the W.
They're not going to win.
The win probability went up to 80% once they set the line at seven.
It seems impossible. Colts at Titans. I'm going to say Colts by one and a half.
Come on. I said two. It is one and a half. I don't like the way you're reading it. You are reading. You're actually reading it off.
Because I can't see anymore because it's 2:19 in the morning. My eyesight's blurry. I'm going to make the letters bigger.
I need to hit all three to tie you, and I'm going to definitely get one wrong.
Colts Titan seems like the game Rahim is going to bet as his wisest pick on the Sunday Ringer pregame show.
The Souths are really tough.
This is the week for Will Levis. Rahem can't quit, Shady Team. Falcons at Carolina, speaking of shitty teams. I don't think the Falcons... I don't think the Panthers can be getting less than four against any 500 up team. I'm going to say Falcons by four in Carolina.
That's a good way to look at it. I said three and a half, so of course, you get it. It's five and a half. Oh, I lose again. I am done. Unlike Rahim, I'm done singing songs about bad teams. All week, I'm like, The Red Rifle, Andy Dalton, 60 points in two games. This is a bad team. If I have to circle it in the pool and get lucky, I'm not going to brag because it is just luck.
You know what I was looking at today? Because I was in Boston going through the FanDuel. I had a bunch of time until the game started. The really bad team, so the three worst teams are Carolina and New England, and maybe Miami without a quarterback. The bears were three and a half over Carolina. The pats were like, Miami was two and a half point favorite. But you figure a lot of averages, if you're like a 2 and 15 or a 3 and 14 team. Oh, boy. My computer is going to run out of battery soon. Uh-oh. I'm going to speed this up.
Lose probability is up to- 19%. You're good.
But you do the minus 13 and a half line on the favorite or the minus 17.5, you just go for a blowout. But the shitty teams get blown out all the time. They're like 5 to 1, 7 to 1, that there's going to be a blowout. I was thinking that. So the bears hit and the Miami didn't.
Yeah, The minus nine and a half. What was the bear's line? I forget. You have no juice in your computer. What was the adjusted? I was like, you probably got five to one.
No, the adjusted was probably like four to one, 13 and a half, something like that. Yeah, that's good. Sunday Night, bangles at Giants. I'm going to say bangles, three and a half.
Yeah, we both had three and a half. Boy, this was shaping up as a bad... This is all of a sudden a good game now.
That is a good game. That's a really dangerous for the bangles, especially if they have neighbors back for the Giants. With the receivers we saw today, I feel like they could throw them.
I love calling the bangles. You know that, Phil. You know it.
Oh, my God. This is the elite neighbors. Is he for real, Mike? Is he for real?
Just as. I might do the Hickey Shuffle right here in this booth. I don't know.
The probability of my pants right now is 85%. Monday, the eighth. Bills at Jets. I am going to say Bills minus three.
We split it. It's two and a half. I said two. Congratulations. Another win at 2:30 AM for you.
I'll tell you what, that's a fascinating Aaron Rodgers game.
Yeah. Is everyone going to be back on the Aaron Rodgers train after they pulled us out?
We're going to be talking all week. The win probability is very high that people will be talking about Aaron Rodgers this week. What's your Mets state of mind before we do parent corner?
I mean, you're used to rooting for October baseball, and it's freaking brutal, right? And you just want breathing room, right? So when you're up one, nothing, you got another night that you don't have to agonize. Of course, the game is going to suck, but two, split in Philly is all we could have asked for. I feel like we're in good shape. It's been a lot of fun, and it dovetails into my paracorder.
It's an emotional roller coaster. There's no way to properly explain it or convey it to people who don't care. It completely submarines your entire month for as long as the team's in there. There's nothing else that really matters. You can't really function. Every game is a heart attack. Although I guess the games are shorter than during the Red Sox heyday, so maybe that part is a bonus. That helps. It's just debilitating. There's No other way to... There's no other verb.
It's a weird TV thing, too, because the directors play a huge role in the emotion of it.
Yeah, just the close up to the fans. How many times they cut to the fans or we're not there yet in October, but the pitch is blowing on their hands and you see the smoke and everything.
It's just everything is so nuts. Yeah, I don't wish it on anyone.
What do you got for parent corner?
All right. I mean, this parent corner would have been a little more effective before the filthies tied up the Series 1-1. But Thursday night, when Alonso hit that home run, and it barely went over the fence, but only he knew it was out, opposite field. And it was a top two med home runs in terms of excitement and emotion. I put like Piazza's post-911 home run up there, just probably still first, but hits it, it just clears the wall. And my sons and I were jumping up and down like lunatics, and we FaceTime Archie at college, and I'm running around the living room like the ultimate warrior. And I stepped on the dog couple of times. It was crazy. And I was thinking, I'm never going to forget this. And I don't think the kids will forget it either. And then I was thinking, how many moments do I have with them that they'll never forget? Oh. 20? Like 20 big moments where you found not like, Hey, that was fun when we went to the Grand Canyon when I was 13. Not that, but- When Anne Chiffy leaked on you? When she leaked all over us, we were high-fiving and stepping on dogs.
No, but I think there's about 15 to 20 that they'll remember with their dad because it's immediate, right? There are nice moments that come, like when, I don't know, if mom comes home and announces she got a promotion in American Express, that's nice. Dad says he has Disney tickets. That's nice. But sports wins are quick. They're immediate, and in this case, surprising and so emotional. And I just want to thank sports. Had the Cowboys lost tonight, I would say sports could go to hell. But I think it's just so impactful and put together these moments that I wouldn't have been able to create otherwise with my kids. The dog could have done without it. But thank you, sports.
That's good. Thank you. I agree. I knew I couldn't articulate it well. It's certainly a huge part of me and my dad over the years. I got a bunch of columns out of it and it was a big part of my perspective on stuff. So I totally get it. And you're right. You have a couple of those and you remember where you were, you remember who you were with, where you were sitting.
Yeah. There's nothing really like it. Even music, if you share musical taste with your kids, and even if you take them to a concert, the event is big, but there's not one, here's the announcement, here's the big moment. You know what I mean? I just can't compare it to anything.
It's a great call. I have a slightly similar one because I haven't been able to really put my son in parent corner because all of the parent corners, I'm really not allowed to put in the parent corner at this point now that he's driving and just the things that are happening every week, I just can't. There's the unedited parent corner. That would be amazing. Dark Web parent corner. Sadly, we can't tell any of those stories. I'm in Boston, and we're doing this live show in New York City tomorrow, but I was in Boston for the UFC thing, and we both love Pereira, the UFC guy. I've never really had a completely favorite UFC guy, but Ben also loves him, and we just love him. I bet on him every time. I put him with every football team. He was FaceTimeing me after every round. This was like, he's fighting Roundtree who has this... He's got this Joe Frazier, no neck. Did you see it? Yeah. He's got this no neck, Joe Frazier, left, right, left. Just as immediately... I knew it from the YouTube clips. I knew I was a little worried for Pereira for this one.
But then that first couple of rounds, and it's just like, fuck, he's got to figure this dude out. All the fighters I've ever liked in my life, they just... Hopkins was great at this. Chávez was great at this. The fight goes along and they're just picking little clues, and then they're closing the distance and figuring out. You could see in the third round, he started to figure the guy out, and then he just demolished him. We were FaceTiming after, and it was like, I think this is the first thing we've had together. He's like, whatever. He likes the team sports, but doesn't really care. He just bounces around. But the Pereira is our guy. So now we're just all the way in. So he beat Roundtree.
That's great.
I just think he's my first real favorite UFC guy. I've liked other guys, but not like this.
I thought you were going to say he was your son, Pereira. You did a test or something. No, he was great. And did you I thought he was losing two rounds to one, actually. I don't know what you and Ben, did you think that would have ended up?
We thought he lost the first two rounds. Yeah, and it's like, you never know with the UFC. They had a couple of the fights before were a little dicey. One of the women's fights was really bizarre. Although the Aldo one, we thought he won. But this one was like, shit. He's got to win the last three. But you could see the other guy was wearing down a little bit. That's the thing. One of the things with Pereira is he always seems the same. He comes out, he just stares the dude down. His eyes, he's like Michael Myers. He's completely still. It's like we're doing Silence of the Lambs tomorrow, and I was researching it. Hopkins was saying about how he played Lector. He thought it'd be really scary if he was just still. He's like, Still people are the scariest. If you watch Silence of the Lambs, she comes around and she sees him in the cage, and he's just standing there and he's not moving. Some of the best horror movie villains are like, Michael Myers was like that, too, where he's just in the doorway. And Pereira is like, he's like that as a UFC fighter.
He just stares you down and looks at you and it's like the most evil-looking fucking Who is the guy in Season 2? Richie Aprio?
Richie Aprio, yeah. He had that scary look on his face. Yeah, he was good with that.
But then you watch the fights and he's in the same shape the entire fight, and he just figures it out. You could see in the third round, it's I'm going to move a little closer. Anyway, it was really fun to share.
Do you think if you... I mean, this doesn't apply to anyone probably listening, but if you don't like sports and you want your kid to think you're cool, I would say take up watching UFC.
Yeah, well, especially the under-20 generation. Yeah. Oh, this ties into the other part of my parent corner. You can start clubs at my son's high school, and he started a UFC club. Oh, wow. And 80 people signed up.
Really? What's involved?
He just runs it. They have a two-hour. They talk about UFC.
But it's not physical, right?
No, they're not fighting. It's like a fan club. But UFC is like massive.
He'll get them to fight.
That's true. No, and Ben will probably turn in a fight club in the basement of the school. But yeah, UFC, Pereira. That's awesome. I don't do the real pronunciation where they say, I can't do it. I'm just my speech impediment. I can't. You can't say it. Can you? Pereira is fine.
No, the win percentage of me saying that right is about 12. Win probability? No, we're going to try. Yeah, win probability.
All right. That's corner. What do you have to promote? Anything?
Against all odds, we go for pro in college football. It's going to be a little hockey talk this week. Hockey starts and then basketball, as you know. Through the Ringer with Tate on Wednesday. Cuddon Sal's winning Every Friday Ringer pregame show on YouTube TV and Fandle TV.
No Mets games for you.
What's that?
No Mets Philly's games for you.
What do you mean? Going there? No, I don't know. I'm hoping If they play the Dodgers or Padres, I don't want to get ahead of myself. I'll be going to those games out here.
But yeah, it's just tough. If they win, they're playing the Dodgers or the Padres.
Yeah, so I'll be hitting those. I'm giving away a brand new 50-inch TV. Hit me up at the cousin Sal on Twitter and post a picture of your crappy TV setup, and the worst one wins. And this is coming out of my thing, and that's it.
What?
I did a contest. We talked about this. I want people who have a bad TV set up.
But how shitty does the TV have to be?
They send pictures- So just whatever the picture that you decide looks the shittiest. If you want to be in on it, you could decide, too. I've already got 25 entries. There you go.
All right, because it is 2:33 in the morning. I can't believe we're still doing a podcast. East Coast time. It's fine. Your time. As always, good job by you. Good job. Better job by you, Billy. All right, that's it for the podcast. Thanks to Cousin Sal. Thanks to Kyle Creighton and Steve Sarruti as well. Don't forget about Poltergeist on the Rewatchables on Monday night. Don't forget about the Ringer Movies YouTube channel. Don't forget about the Bill Simmons YouTube channel. So bad news. I'm not going to have a podcast for you on Tuesday. I am coming back on Thursday night. That's going to be the next podcast. I will see you then. Enjoy the week. On the wayside, let'a say, I don't have a few years with them. On the wayside, on the Must be 21 plus in President Select States for Kansas, an affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus in President DC. Gambling problem? Call 100 Gambler or visit rg-help. Com. Call 188-789-7777 or visit ccpg. Org/chat in Connecticut or visit mdgamblinghelp. Org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gambling helpline ma. Org, or call 800-327-5050 for 24-7 support in Massachusetts, or call 1877-8 Hope, NY, or text Hope, NY in New.