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Coming up, week six, NFL and the books. Guess the line. Parent corner. A whole lot more all next. We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast network. I have new rewatchables coming for you on Monday. It's the silence of the Lambs podcast we did for our live show in New York City last Monday. We were at the music box. It was awesome. It was a really, really, really fun show. And that we have some good wrinkles and some, some good material on that one. It's a really good podcast. So that's going to be on Monday. You can also watch it on the Ringer movies YouTube channel as well. You can watch all the videos and clips from this podcast on the Bill Simmons channel. And coming up, cousin Sal and I are going to talk about all the NFL stuff that happened today. The day that started at 630 Pacific time and just kept going with football for 14 hours. Although that was less than last week, the longest day in NFL history. But we're gonna talk about that and talk a little. Baseball playoffs, New York's great sports week, little WNBA. We got a really juicy parent corner for you.

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It's all Max. First, our friends from Pearl Jamdeh. We live Sunday night with a very depressed cousin Sal. We're taping this. It was 818. So much promise for today. Big Cowboys game against the Lions, first Mets game in the NLCS. And now as we head toward midnight on the east coast. I've seen that look before, Sal. I've seen that look on your face.

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If a tear comes down, it's because the ring light is just blinding. I have it on a weird setting. But don't, don't for a second think that crying or bawling.

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Should we kill a blood diamond?

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Should I get the music that'll put.

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Me on find blood diamond, the theme song?

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Go ahead, speaker zero. I'll be biting the sheets, 55 to nine. Is that a beat? Is that as bad enough? Beating. That was a combined score between the Cowboys and Mets games today. The Dodgers scored as many as the Cowboys. But I don't know, man. You know, I was thinking before I jumped on the zoom, how many years are we going to do this? Like, are we going to be like 85 and 86 years old? And just like I. Aha. Your team sucked tonight.

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All of them.

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Pathetic.

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I'm playing the blood diamond theme song. I didn't really. I don't remember this as the theme song.

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It's very sad. It's all very sad.

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The tears are rolling down South's face. Jesus. So all right. This was a Hall of Fame New York sports stretch. We had the Mets and the Yankees are both in the championship series, which has that happened less than five times? Four times 2000. Was there another time that happened second time? Whatever. Giants home game Sunday night, Jets home game Monday night, including a hole. They fired their coach. I was in New York City last week. It was all anyone was talking about. We had the New York Liberty in the finals. They won today. And then we had just randomly a Knicks Wolves preseason game that they both played their starters for a bunch of the game. There was Dante Defensenzo, tension. He's yelling at the Knicks bench. He's yelling at Rick Brunson after the game. What a time for New York sports. Our guy JJ, who is still reeling from the fact that he picked the game correctly tonight. He's got to be, he's got a New York sports pod. There's too many topics. I don't know what you lead with.

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He's going to do 20 hours. Yeah, the Rangers and Islanders play as well. It's, it's a New York bonanza. But I don't know what to be more depressed about, the Mets or the Cowboys here. I guess the Cowboys.

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Did you think the Mets are going to win today? I mean, usually, you know, game one, it's a field. Who knows?

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No, it's, you don't want to win. Nine nothing. And now the Dodgers. The one thing about the Dodgers, why I wanted to play them stupid instead of the Padres is we can get to their pitching, we can get to their middle relief. And now they've got three shutouts in a row. Not, not promising at all, but 55 to nine.

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The good thing about baseball is this is actually a seven game series.

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Right? Right.

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Unlike these five gamers where you feel like you lose the first game and you're like climbing up a mountain after that.

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Cowboys, Lions is in seven games. We don't have to, we don't have to see Campbell shit all over us again and again and again.

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We're going to get to your team later. I wanted to go through some of the highlights from today. I have highlights. I have a highlight section. I have a low light section. Okay, so the highlights, the favorites are back. We finally had an NFL week that made sense. The favorites went ten and three, six double digit wins and every old school tease in parlay covered today. We won.

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In other words, we won money. Which makes it so that more depressing.

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Square public bets win. Unless you had the Giants plus three and a half late night. But, but, yeah. So the week made a little more sense is my point.

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It's good. It's good. I like that. I mean, it had to happen eventually, right? That where the good teams, it was coming to a point where you were afraid to take an eliminator. Everyone was out in their eliminator pools. I think they're like, now that we eliminated everybody from those dumb pools, we could have some of the favorites. When the Eagles tried to lose, they did. Against the Browns, the Washington hung in there with the Ravens. I was actually more impressed with them than I was. I mean, we'll talk about all these games, I'm sure. But still the favorites came through.

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The Eagles had a team meeting before the game and they were like, look, the Browns offense can't score. If we're going to blow everybody's tease today, we've got to come up with some stuff on our own. Special teams was like, what if we get a kickback and give up a touchdown? Like, good idea. Let's do that. Could we get a fumble touchdown for them? Or now they couldn't. So anyway, 2016, the Browns offense was abominable, but it felt was, it was kind of a boring day, but it felt like an old school football game. The fantasy scores were laid down. So we had that next highlight, the NFC north. Holy shit. Remember, we did, we did our futures before the air. And one of the futures we really liked was an exact order bet on Fanduel, which was six to one, and it was Detroit, Green Bay, Chicago, Minnesota. Exact order. And it was plus 600. We're not out of that, by the way. What we weren't expecting was that this would be, first of all, they have the top four point differential. Teams in the entire NFL. Fikes plus 63, Lions, plus 60, bears plus 47, packers plus 41.

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So we got that. They're the first division with four. Four win teams after six weeks since we had the new division starting in 2002, and they have 17 wins already total. So this, this division's a beast. If you had to bump one team to not make the playoffs, who would it be?

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Well, it's funny you said that about our bet. As me, you and hench, we have that bet.

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The top to bottom first jumped on that, too.

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Oh, house.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, house. Sorry.

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The four of us.

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Four of us, the Vikings, who we had for last, are a game and a half out of last, right? Like, they could go on a little run here and they play Detroit. And, you know, I don't think we all think they're as good as five and odd, even four and one, but I still have hope for that. That I watched the bear. I don't know. I had the Jaguars again. I'm an idiot. I'm a glutton. I'm an early morning glutton.

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What was the thought process, London? Some of the offensive stats, like, how did you talk yourself into that one?

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Oh, I don't use thought process anymore.

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My bad.

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Yeah. No, no. Why would I use any thought process? Yeah, that was it. They own London. They have to go out there. Maybe I'm giving Peterson and Lawrence more credit. I don't know why we should give Lawrence any credit anymore. It's just so hard for him to move up and down the field. Even when they were up 30, I was like, aha. I picked one, right? And it's not even 07:00 a.m. out in the west coast and just a, just a blizzard of offense for, for Chicago.

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Really came in to visit. He's in LA now. And he came last night. He was doing your show this morning, and we were talking last night about the picks in that game. And he was, he was really bullish on the Jags. One of the reasons was rookie quarterbacks in London, I think are Owen five. There's some stat owing. Five against spread something.

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He was the first rookie quarterback to win. Yep.

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Well, there's that. But how many of them were going against, like, a completely dysfunctional team that afterwards the coach is like, we have no culture. So I don't know. Sometimes with these stats, you. There might have to be more context. Like this Jags team, they rolled over the last hour of that game like, they were like, get us the fuck outta here. Oh, wait, we have to play here again next week. Oh, my God. You could just see, like, the life sinking from their body.

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Do you think the cult the culture thing is so confusing. It's like, what? You're gonna take the. You're gonna take the team to a museum in London? Somewhere in there? Like, what, in Liverpool? What are you gonna do? Like, I don't. I think you. I think you send that guy back. I mean, my guy might have to go back too, but do you think, like, the business class ticket is figured into whether or not the owner should fire Peterson? It's like, oh, shit, if I keep him, he could just fly back with the team. Otherwise, have to send a business class to the. Whoever's not on the team, fly him in. And, you know, that's. You know, that's 18 grand.

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Was there coaches union? Like, you could send them back? Like, coach middle seat, right?

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Be like, say, coach middle seat.

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33 B. Enjoy.

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Is that his nickname? Coach middle seat. I like that.

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I was. I love. I was going to do this for the low lights, but we better do it now. So Peterson had amazing quotes after the game. I'm just going to read it because this is the verbatim quote. We got to keep showing our players. We got to keep coaching. We're not. Listen, there's another game coming, whether we like it or not. There's still. What have we played? Six games and we play a 17 game schedule, so we got a few more games left. So nobody's going to feel sorry for us. Nobody's going to say, okay, but we've got to change. I mean, I say we. It's all of us, coaches, players, everybody. We've got to change right now that culture. Otherwise it just gets out of control. We're on a slippery slope, or right on the cusp of that slope, but at some point we've got it. We just. Enough is enough. And you gotta have enough pride and figure out a way. This would all be better if he wasn't the head coach, right?

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If he was anyone else, if it was a beat writer for Jacksonville, it'd be good. Yeah.

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Or as like the special teams coach, I was thinking, like, when you're the head coach, it's like you like, like your family, a bunch of stuff happens and you have like, a family meeting and we're like, you gotta. We have to change the culture right now. And they're like, you're the dad. Like, you. You pay for everything. You own the house.

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You know, I'm gonna do that and see what kind of reaction I get. I wanna see, but I can start.

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Talking about culture and see what the kids say.

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I love the idea of. Hey, Travis. Gabe. Coach Middleseat would like to see you bring your playbook. He's gonna. He's gonna draw. He's gonna draw the slippery slope he's talking about. I know it's confusing, but he's gonna diagram it. Coach Middlesex.

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Lombardi's gonna be so jealous. Lombardi, the king of coach nicknames. Coach Middleseat's better.

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It's so perfect.

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Coach Bill Doug, 33 B. It's a one way ticket. Please don't come back. I think they, they. The other choice is you play the second game and just leave Doug there and there's no seat for him home. He's just got to find his way. Do that.

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Wait.

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Back to the. Back to the NFC north so we could have four playoff teams from this division. I know we always say that's impossible, but we've seen it before where a division gets to 40, 41 games. The complicating factor would be the Lions. Cause usually when that happens, the teams are all between like nine and eleven wins. Something like that. But the Lions look like they might be a, even with the Hutchinson injury today, they might be a 13 or 14 win team. So. Yeah.

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You couldn't get swept against any of the teams. Right. You have to kind of go one on one against everybody, right? Yeah. And then you'd have to, I mean, the NFC is probably the place to do it. Cause I think that 7th spot is a nine win team. So yeah, there's a chance.

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You're so sad. This is like the I hate.

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I was laughing about middle seed.

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Now I've gone middle seat. Now you're back and back down.

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Yeah.

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So here's the case with Chicago not to make the playoffs. Cause they're four and two right now. They won that stupid game against Tennessee in week one. They lost the Houston lost Indy. They barely beat that like beaten up shell of a Rams team, right. 20, 418. They held on to the end. They killed Carolina and they killed Jacksonville in the late. Now they have a buy. So they're at Washington, at Arizona home pats, that's probably five and three, but it, it could also be, I'm sorry, six and three or five and four somewhere in there. But with their schedule gets really hard. Starting week eleven, they have Green Bay, Minnesota at Detroit at San Fran, at mini home, Detroit home, Seattle at Green Bay. That's eight straight weeks of hard games. And I think, I think they're the weak link because those last three weeks, Caleb's looked, we all have to agree he's looked good, but Rams defense, Carolina defense, Jags defense, probably three of the five worst defenses in the league. Maybe three of the three of the worst four. So I don't know. My jury is still out. Now they have Washington week eight, who doesn't have a good defense either, and then Arizona, who doesn't have a good defense.

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And the Pats gave up 41 points. So Caleb might really get some momentum here.

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Right.

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But then it's going to get hard.

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I think Arizona, Washington are better than the Bears. But watch the Bears on both. And it's too close to the Sunday night game to see this number. But their over under win total was eight and a half. Right. The Bears beginning of the year. You think it's the same now or you think it's higher.

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I remember seeing that this summer and thinking it was the stupidest thing ever. But now we realize, like, the schedule for the first half of the season was easy, but we marked down before the year we were like that. That last stretch is pretty tough. So you think they're over under is higher now?

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Well, it can only be nine if it's, if it's any higher. Yeah, if it's any higher. But I think you keep it at eight and a half. I'm still, I'm confused on a lot of teams through six weeks, they're one of the teams that I'm confused on. Like, the Giants are another one that. Are they good or are they a bottom five team? Definitely not.

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They scored seven points. Their coach is going for it on every fourth down. Cause, yeah, they, it takes them four plays to get ten yards.

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Yeah, they should just forfeit any night game for sure. But I wonder if, I don't know. I don't know what I'm looking at sometimes. I was probably looking at the, it's.

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Weird that the packers have the worst point differential, the four, because I feel probably second best about their ceiling, especially now that Watson's back. All right, next, next highlight. Nick Sirianni feels like he's back. And by being back, getting weird again.

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Yeah, right.

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I felt like he was like sedated the first few weeks. Like he's like, I almost got fired. I gotta really, like, see, you know, he's going home, talking to his wife or girlfriend. It's like I gotta scale it back and I really want to keep my, I think I was pushing a little too far. I gotta, I gotta rein it back a little bit. And now he showed up this week. He shaved head, really tight haircut. Not a complete bald shave, but a shave. He's barking at his own fans. He just had a different style. And by the way, they were just as disjointed as ever. But it feels, it feels like we've hit the breaking bad Sirianni point of the season. He's just gonna start acting aggro and weird and having weird press conferences and I'm here for it. I didn't like sedated, neutered Sirianni.

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Now. Yeah, of course you want all these guys to be hot headed lunatics. And that one, when they fall flat on their faces, we could just laugh at them. But that team was not, I don't know. I was, you and I, we were talking as Jalen hurts, injured, but he's not the same. None of these guys are the same. They couldn't put, they barely put the browns away. If, if Watson was, wasn't so crippled looking out there, he's so lumbering. Even when he takes the ball outside.

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That's really rough.

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I don't know. You talk about coaches like Stefanski and we touched on this last week. He's got to step up and say, hey, guys, this is not me. This is not me. And like, if Spotify said to you, you're playing, you're going to put Creed in the background. You're going to put Creed in the back of every podcast, right? And you're like, what? And they're like, no, you're going to do it. And you're like, and you, and publicly you say, yes, this is my decision. It reflects poorly on you. Right? Like Stefanski's got to say, this has nothing to do with me. They're making me start to show there's.

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Been better examples in real life, but we'll move on. Yeah. It would be like if instead of doing the basketball overrunners with Priscilla and house next week, we just randomly did NHL.

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Yeah.

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And I just didn't explain it. It was like, yeah, we're going to do NHL this year. I don't.

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And you owned it. Yeah.

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Now it's, you know, this is what we care about now. I don't know what to make of the Eagles either, but your division's pretty bad. It could be nine and eight in your division taken. That's why I'd like the Giants. They lose today. I don't. Their season's not over. I don't feel like you got killed today. I don't feel like your season's over. Nobody sees it's over. 98 is going to take that division only glimpse.

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Like, all right, maybe we're just a team that gets killed at home. Maybe like, hey, come to Jerry's world and watch us get demolished. It's fun. But there is a path for the Cowboys to win. We still have three NFC south games left. And, you know, if Cincinnati and we have some other, you know, I think we could beat the Giants again and split against those NFC east teams. And that gets us to nine. God forbid, ten.

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You know, you, you're banged up on defense. There's legitimate reasons, but you also got killed. We're also awful. Yeah, you also might not be good. The fact that they haven't figured out the stadium piece where there's just blinding sunlight in your eyes of your receivers. Like, Tobert didn't catch a big pass today because he couldn't see the ball because the sun was blinding him. This is a stadium built in the last 15 years. Just didn't account for where the sun was coming around. As the sun set in October. Nobody. Nobody.

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Sun's so unpredictable. So unpredictable. You never know what side in the.

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Same spot every year in mid October, and they just didn't do it.

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Jerry tried to move the sun. He couldn't do it. Doesn't have that much power.

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Next highlight. You mentioned Cleveland earlier in this Watson thing, which we talked about a bunch last week. A highlight today was they showed a graphic that they were, oh, for their last 26 on third down, and it seemed like a mistake or a typo, but it wasn't. They've had 20. They had up to that point, 26 straight third down conversions did not convert. It's impossible. You would think, like, out of 26, there's a couple third and one, third and twos, right? Someone jumping. You're going to convert one of them.

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Can you draw someone offside or pass.

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Interference, like, falls over? That would be like betting roulette 26 times and being wrong 26 times in a row or something.

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Yeah. You know, I would figure out a way to convert.

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Yeah, we probably do that. Probably. But anyway, you know, concurrently, Baker Mayfield had another really fun game. He had three picks, but, like, two of them were pretty goofy. I thought he was really good in that game. I went back. So when they decided to go after Watson, they also had to dump Mayfield, remember?

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Sure.

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And they had to send them to Carolina. They got some conditional pickback, but they actually paid 10.5 million of Mayfield's deal that year to go play for Carolina. And then it didn't work out in Carolina, and he left, went to the Rams and eventually landed in Tampa.

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That part of it, if you just stop right there, makes it one of the top five worst deals if you go into compensation and massages and everything else. Yeah.

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Disastrous. 10.5 billion. Like, not a small amount of money. Like, that's, you know, that you could get probably a number two receiver, an edge rusher. You could get somebody almost as good as Assad and Reddick year to year. You could get, you know, a left guard for ten and a half million. Anyway, so they had that. You had all the allegations against DeShawn and the fact that he's a historically bad quarterback and the fans are so bummed out now, it's feels like there's going to be a revolt in Cleveland.

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Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know what. I don't know why anyone's holding on to this. This is really, really bad. We concluded that the, you know, the front office just wants him to get hurt.

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Hurt or. It's the most stubborn thing ever. It's like when our cousin gets super stubborn during an argument, we just kind of let him have it. That's the Watson thing.

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Oh, yeah. Middle seat, Jimmy. And middle seat. Yeah.

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It'll be a lot more highlights today. Jake May's first touchdown pass. Great moment. Most excited. I've been in the room with Kyle watching a pat's game. Good me at least three years during that eleven week stretch when Mac Jones seemed like he was going to be good as a rookie. So that was what, three years ago? But even I don't remember being. Cause it really seemed like it was going badly. You know, they, they had like, they're, they're on like their 19th offensive line and five games, six games. And he was sailing past his beginning. He had a little deer in the headlights. And it was like, oh, my God, please don't let this be Zach Wilson. Like, just don't let this be, you know. And getting to the point where he's hitting somebody on a five yard pass, like, good job. Good. You know, we're like little kids at like a eight year old, you, soccer game. And then near the end of the half, just uncorks of fucking beauty.

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Yeah.

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Hits, hits this guy in stride for that. It was like a 49 yard touchdown. And it was just. It was great.

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That's how you want the first one to look, right? Like the first guy's first home run. You don't want it to hit the glove and go over the fence. You want an upper decker. That was a great in stride. Like you said over the shoulder. It wasn't seven yards over the middle. And like, oh, did he get it? He got it. Yeah, he got in. Great, great throw.

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He should be. Had a lot of really nice throws. Like throws over the middle. Cause he's got height too, so he can hit these guys over the middle. He had some good darts to the outside, had some really nice scrambles. It wasn't perfect like his. There's little stuff, like I was saying to the people we're watching the game with today, like when, when brady showed up in 2001, one of the things that jumped out immediately was just how polished he was with like, play action and keeping the ball on his side and pretending he hit like, just all these little things. It was like, man, this guy's really sharp. And May's the opposite. He's still seemed like a little clumsy and awkward with some of this stuff, but the arm is there and the legs are there. Like he raced out of town. He raced out of sacks a couple of times today.

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I would like to learn from you how it is to remain giddy after your team loses by 20. Because I can't do it. I mean, but you, you can. That's great.

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Well, it's. We need to, we need a, we need to be one of the three or four worst teams in the league. And clearly on not playing him last week really helped.

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Right.

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Against Miami. Now they're going to Jacksonville in, in, in London.

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That's a fun one.

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See what happens with that. They're awful, though. They're the worst team in the league there. There's nobody worse than the pets.

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Oh, come on.

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No, there's nobody worse than them. They have the worst team in the league.

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We'll see next week. That's a, that is a battle. What's your immediate reaction when you hear he dated the same girl since he was twelve?

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To me? Loyalty. And if he's good, that means we have him for 20 years.

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Okay.

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But he did that in his press conference. He showed up and he's like, these are my brothers. This is my girlfriend's in 7th grade. Yeah, you get me. You get these people too. And this is who I am. Low guys anymore.

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When you see pictures, it's just weird. That's all. But no, it's great.

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Like when they were twelve. Yeah. Those pictures were floating around.

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Well, she was six is the problem. No, no, no, they were both twelve. No, they were both. Well.

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That'S funny. Yeah. Listen, at least there was some hope. The stance were pretty full. People were into it. People were booing when they were like running on stupid third downs. But it's unclear if we even have a mediocre coach, so we're going to find out with that. And every time. It's weird when you watch these different coaches. I've never seen him talk to anyone else on the sideline during the games. They just show him and it's like he's in like a phone booth over on the side just watching the game. It's just, there's some coaches that are like interactive with the people. You know, Belichick would go and walk around, talk to people and Mayo's just kind of looking around.

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Yeah.

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And I don't know what he's looking at. It's certainly not the defense. Cause we're just getting destroyed.

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You know, we all have weirdo friends who like oh, come on, watch the game with us. Like, no, no, no, I have to watch alone. I can't be bothered. He could just be one of those.

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I can't say I've been impressed in the beginning of the Mayo era, but I did have the greatest coach of all time. And then the last highlight was Raven Seawords, which reminded me of the better bf b ball fight, where it was a really kind of fun battle to watch, but it also felt like it didn't hit its potential.

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It's good.

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There was another version of Raven C words where it was like, holy shit, that game was fucking awesome. But it just felt like once the Ravens got up 710, it just felt like they were in control of the game and Henry could do whatever he wanted.

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I think this was going in. I love the Ravens today. And it fell right on the number. I think they were. By the time it kicked off, they were length seven and then one by seven. But this was a perfect spot for Washington to lose by 27. And you would have been like, okay, you know, this is just what happens to a young team like this. And they didn't. They fought. Is Jayden Daniels perfect on fourth down as a pro? See, like ten for ten or something.

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The precision of his passes. Yeah, everything's in the right spots. I feel like he makes the right decision almost all the time and then the passes are delivered correctly. You know what I mean? He's just really good.

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Good for sticking.

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You can tell even the players on the other team, like Lamar was raving about him after the game with the guys he's going against, all rave about him after the game. Like, he, he clearly has it. I watched with house today, who, I mean, he could barely keep his pants on. He gets so excited.

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He's excited.

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Yeah. He's out of his mind. One more highlight from this. So how many rushing yards do you think Derek Henry has this year?

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I know because I. Cause I bet him to have the most rushing yards in October. All right, let me think about this. He has. Yeah. Oh, fandals got it. All through six games, he has 865.

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Wow, you went high. What is it? 7040?

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That's it?

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Yeah. 119 carries, 704 yards, and he's got eight touchdowns. He's good there.

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I mean, when they have a lead.

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If they feel unstoppable now, the lead, that's it. It was the opposite of the way they used to feel. Right.

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That's the difference. Right. They don't. They don't close that game out last year at this time now. Yeah.

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Now their past defense looked a little bit better, so those were the highlights. We're going to take a break for the podcast, stay here on YouTube, and then we're going to do the low lights. Get ready to tackle the NFL action with FanDuel, America's number one sports book. Right now, new customers can bet dollar five and they get 300 in bonus bets if you win. The FanDuel sportsbook app giving you everything you need to place live bets on the NFL all in one place. You can also check out latest stats, view live play by play so much more on the same page where you place your bets. If you get a hunch, go nuts. Just visit fanduel.com b's to join today. You'll get started with $300 in bonus bets if you win your first dollar five bet. Never waste a hunch. Make every moment more with FanDuel, an official sports book partner of the NFL, you must be 21 plus in president select states or 18 plus in president DC. First online real money wager only $5 1st deposit required. Bonus issued as non withdrawable bonus bets which expire seven days after receipt. Restrictions apply.

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C terms at sportsbook dot vandal.com gamble Prom call 100 gambler or visit rg dash help.com all right, the lowlights Hutchinson just bomber. I don't think he was the best defensive front four guy in the league, but he was in the conversation with Watt was probably one Parsons when he's healthy. And I think Hutchinson was probably third for me. Huge part of Detroit and also an awful injury, which unfortunately they had the one replay, it was like, oh, no. But really tough. That was our first major season ender of the year, right? It was a bad injury.

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I mean, if you don't count McCaffrey, I guess. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, yeah, you could say he's third, but it was like number one in sacks. No, no one had as many sacks through like three games even and then four and just brings it every play, you know, and so, and is double teamed a lot. And the thing that all these defensive ends go through. But yeah, they're going to miss him. That's a, that's a bummer of an injury.

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Opens up the NFC a little bit cause he's not coming back this year. Their defense was, I wouldn't say awesome. They look pretty good today, but your team's pretty one dimensional.

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But take that. Don't listen, don't say things you're going to regret.

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Last week looked a little, little shakier, but really tough one. So I don't know. I think I have. I had Casey first and Detroit second heading into this week and I still feel that way. But Detroit is a little weaker and I think heading into this NFC north gauntlet when they start playing each other, you know, their pass rush is in there. That's going to be a weak spot.

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Green Bay looks like it worked out great for Green Bay. Right? I'm not even saying this injury, but it didn't take them two or three weeks to adjust to the league. And Jordan love and whatever came back that that was. I don't know if you had Arizona or not, but I was like, Arizona is at least good for a backdoor cover. That's what they live for, right?

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Yeah.

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Not even, you know, they just dobbs. Oh, he's not. What happened? I thought he was suspended. No. Always back. He's catching touchdowns and Jaden Reed's now all of a sudden a top seven receiver and they run the ball. They do it all.

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And Christian Watson was like, guys, I'm here to be on your bench in fantasy and make you really madden that you didn't start me and then you're going to start me next week and I'm going to go out of the game in the first quarter. That's like Travis ETN today. Six by stardom. Do I not start them? All right, fine. London game. I'll start them. Pulled hand me like two minutes in.

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Fantasy is terrible.

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Some guys, fantasy is the worst. I actually have some fantasy stuff later. All right. Another low light. The Dallas home blowout. So I think this is the fourth.

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Game talked about this. We're going to do this.

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We're talking about. This is like four times in recent history where what? You were down 19 or more at halftime like in the last calendar year.

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Yeah.

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Including a playoff game.

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That sounds right. Yep. Green Bay, Detroit, Baltimore. Who's the other terrible team? Good team.

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We lost to New Orleans.

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New Orleans, who's not even for sickening. I know. They beat us. They crushed us and they crushed the Panthers.

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We would came on the pod that night. I was like, is there some 1999 ribs stuff going on? And have four weeks later spent the rat Spencer Rattler and they're giving out 100 points and Olavi made it five minutes. Another concussion for him. But yeah, it looks like, yeah, I.

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Hate my team right now. And Jerry Jones was interviewed, of course. Can you believe he did an interview today?

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I was shiny.

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He said two things. He said it was like a minute and a half long. He said we have a buy coming up, but that's not enough time to write the ship. And then 10 seconds later he said, but we're going to figure it all out during the bye week.

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Perfect.

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So, yeah, why can't, you know, there's a lot of hope there.

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It's very similar to the Sala thing, though, where you just should have taken care of this eight, nine months ago, and then it's like, no, no, this year it'll be better. It just seems like it never works when teams do that.

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I am a little jealous of Woody Johnson, that he knows when to pull the trigger. Like, I know if, like, the Cowboys had a coach that was 20 and 36, he'd be gone, too. But Woody Johnson's like, hey, I'm old. This is ridiculous. I gotta shake it up. I'm gonna talk about the culture, and guess what? Cause I could do something about it.

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Jerry Jones is like, I'm not old. I'm eternal. I'm a young 83. I've got 2030 years left.

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I think he believes it.

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No urgency here. Well, I didn't think your team was good to begin with. I thought you should have lost the Pittsburgh game last week, and Dak was just superb. And Pittsburgh lost a couple of pass rushers and blew a couple of chances to whatever, and Dallas snuck that one out. But I just don't think Dallas is very good.

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I can't argue. I mean, I'm going to sit here and argue. They can't. They get bullied on both sides of the line of scrimmage. Some of it has to do with the injuries, but also some of it looks like they're just not prepared for these games or don't care. All the bad stuff. Play the blood diamond theme again.

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So if, so if, if they fired McCarthy tomorrow and brought in Belichick, what's your reaction?

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Oh, wow. I'm surprised. So, I mean, the question is, it is the bye week. Do you do it now or do you wait till you. There's plenty of opportunities because we have the 49 ers, the falcons, the Eagles, the Texans and act commanders. He can go anytime in there. But do you do it now? I'd be surprised, but I would. I would think it was a step in the right direction, whereas last year, I wouldn't think so.

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You know what's funny about this? I got to turn down blood diamond. They always say, like, no, you can't do it in football. You can't bring somebody in. It's too hard. There's all these systems in place. It's got to be an interim coach. It's got to. Gotta be somebody in the building. It's like, does it. Cause other option is just don't fire McCarthy and the team's just a mess. Or you just keep Robert Sala and your team's a mess, or you keep Doug Peterson in London for another week. She's talking about the culture, which he's in charge of.

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Right.

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Like, at some point, maybe anybody's better.

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Yeah.

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You know, in basketball, they'll bring in fucking anybody. They. You know that Milwaukee brought in Doc Rivers out of nowhere last year. They were like, fuck it. But in football, they seem to be more hesitant because of the systems. But it just seems like you could bring somebody in who could oversee, I guess. Indianapolis tried this with Jeff Saturday and it didn't work. But Jeff Saturday is also not a coach. But I still feel like, I find it hard to believe Belichick wouldn't be more of an asset the rest of the season than McCarthy.

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You know what I was hoping with Belichick? I was hoping. I'm like, all right, McCarthy. Let's give him credit. They won twelve games a year for the last three years. That's pretty damn good. So he makes it to the playoffs, and then they're terrible. For whatever reason, they're bad. Why don't teams do this more? Why couldn't we hire a Belichick as a consultant? Like, for the past, did this.

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In 1996, they hired Belichick as a consultant with smart. Just for like four months. Yeah.

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Let's see your game plan.

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Okay.

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Here's what I would do different. Here's what, like, every team should do this. Like, it should be a mad scramble to hire the best just to come in and oversee and look like. Like when Jimmy toast the Oscars, he runs his jokes by Billy Crystal. Right? And guys who have done it before and done great at it. Like, so that's the best. I was hoping for McCarthy. Like, maybe they could do something like that. Now we're not even going to get to that.

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So counter. Cleveland did this with Mike Brable and I. And I think you're seeing the results, brable. I think you should stick with Deshawn, probably.

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Yeah, that was back. I mean, it's backfired, too. I think the Eagles brought in Fangio. Right. For the defense.

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I don't know why, but why wouldn't you do it? These are all like multi billion dollar businesses, right?

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Yeah. Right.

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They belichick like 2 million a year. Belichick is on eight shows and podcasts. Like, I'm sure he would take the.

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Paycheck, pull them away in December and January. Yeah.

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So the Jags are a fiasco. We talked about them earlier as one of the lowlights, but they're one in five. There's a Trevor Lawrence conversation that we've had a couple times, but I wanted to have a little more detail because he is now 21 and 35 for his career. The extension was scary, but then, and much like the Jags, we talked ourselves into the Jags. And Trevor Lawrence before the season, I have bets on him for 4000 yards. I had him in two fantasy leagues. I was, they were eight and three. Last year there was this whole case. He was injured. Now he's healthy. They beefed up both sides of the ball. The AFC south, other than Houston, not good. And he's been worse. So I was like, all right, he's 21 and 35 in his career. It's 55 games. How many guys have started at least 55 games, but one less than 25, right? Cause he. It's hard to look this stuff up. Well, it's a nine person list. And here's that list. And it goes in order of 21 to 25 wins. Trevor Lawrence, Tim Couch, David Carr, Josh McCown, Rick Myrordeh, Daniel Jones, Blake Bortles, Charlie Batch and Josh Freeman.

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Wow, the nine quarterbacks.

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And the worst work by you.

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Yeah, the worst one of all those was David Carr was 23 and 56. Josh McCown was 23 and 53. But that's just an awful list. I was like, is there anybody good on this list? Daniel Jones kind of, sort of. They went nine and eight, maybe, but.

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All those guys were top three paid as far as quarterbacks, right? At some point.

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Well, teams, well, no, but some of those guys were paid because teams are kind of like, fuck, what do we do? All right, we'll pay them one more year. Like Bordell's got paid, remember?

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Yeah. I think we're getting credit though for pumping the brakes on Trevor Lawrence. Even though we may have picked him to win the division or where you and I are getting credit, you and I are really people. Like, we are getting a little. It's a rare that we should take it. I'm going to recommend we take it.

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Wow. Blake Bortles started 73 games. He had 103 touchdowns and 75 picks. And Lawrence has started 55. He has 64 touchdowns and 41 picks. Like, when you see all these numbers, it's pretty alarming. And then when you watch the games, he just makes dumb plays at bad times. Like he had that awful, awful interception today at midfield, right as the game was slipping away for them. The body language seems weird from a leadership standpoint. I just haven't seen it at all. And I really want to take off.

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As much as he used to or when I remember the first two years.

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He does today, he had a play where. No, I don't feel like he does.

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No, I know. Three or four times.

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Yeah, yeah. It's like, holy shit, this guy's fast.

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That's huge. It's, it's, it's, you know, I don't know. It's a little bait and switched. Like, what happened to that? I know you want to extend your career because you're making so much money for every year you stay in the league, but if you can't, you can't stretch these first downs. When you're. The rest of your team has like, 51 yards rushing. It's no good.

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It's really tough because they extended them. They probably could have just, you know, played a little, kind of did a little bit like what Dallas did with Dak and at least taken it through the season or could have franchise tagged them, but they, they extended him on the promise of what he could be over anything he'd actually done. And yet, as I said, both you and I fell for it, too. Like, we both thought he was going to have a pretty good year this year, and he's been.

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And you got Flacco right in that division to make everyone look stupid, too, right?

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Right? Yeah, just Flacco. By the way, two touchdowns in eight straight games. Joe Flacco, he threw a bad ball.

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Today, and I was shocked.

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Right? Like, oh, my God, Joe.

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Not Joe Flacco. Like, yeah.

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Another low light from today. Calvin Ridley. Eight targets, zero catches. Wonder what the record is for most targets catching a ball. Eight is pretty high. Like, has anybody gotten over ten?

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Do you have him? And I have on two fantasy.

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I don't. I stayed away and I see that name.

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I'm like, wow, that's a pretty big name for him to be so far on my reserves. There's no. But there's no way I could put him in, right?

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Well, I remember the Pats went after him, and I think he chose Tennessee over the Pats. And one of the reasons was because he said there were taxes and there was something, you know, that was basically it. And then Iook didn't want to come here. Cause the Pats didn't have a quarterback, but Ridley chose to go to Tennessee.

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He was talking about the lev, the Levis tax, because that's a bad tax. I don't know which candidate is going to enforce that, but he's actually fun to watch. Levis. So bad. That bad.

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One last lowlight from today, not to talk about your fantasy team, our fantasy team, our knockout league where I'm zero five. I don't ever remember having a fantasy team that started out zero and five. It's pretty impossible. And today I had a chance to win my first. And. And it was looking great. And I was going against Ham's team that had Chase Brown, and. Chase Brown, right at the end of the game gets a touchdown. So now he's got this 13 point lead. I mean, now it's. I'm. I need 13 and a half points from Garrett Wilson to avoid going owen six and Salenne. I got to change the culture with this fantasy.

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Oh, is that what you're going to do?

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Yeah, I'm going to change the culture. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to wave some guys, I'm going to trade some guys. I just don't like the way the guys have responded. Some of it's on me, obviously, because I picked every guy in the team, but the culture of the team, I don't really like.

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But you changed your team name to Billy middle seat. I probably could do it.

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So can I get 13 points from Garrett Wilson? 13 and a half. Can I do that?

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Yeah, I think. Didn't he have like eleven catches or twelve catches last week? Yeah, he's back in sync, I think.

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So then the other fantasy thing in the guillotine league that somehow we've survived, but we. Travis Etienne today, who pulled us Hammy, I don't even think. I hadn't even sat down. Rich Eisen hadn't even made his first bad joke yet, and all of a sudden ETN's on the sidelines. So now we had chase Brown in that league, so it actually helped us. So now I need like 14 points from Bree Saul. But in this league, touchdowns count for more. So I need. I need jets scoring tomorrow from two from the two guys who have murdered everybody all year against Buffalo. And I'm weirdly confident.

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So this is the guillotine league. As long as you're not in last place, you.

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Long as you're not in last place.

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Survive and you'll go. It's an 18 league team because there was twelve now down to twelve after this. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And you, who is our first pick?

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I think we had the second pick in the whole draft and he's done jack shit all year. And now he needs to save the day for us.

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I don't know if advance with Bruce hall and at the end as your running backs. I don't know. I think I've heard enough.

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Well, we picked up at the end because Chase Brown had the red flag all week, right?

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That's right.

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And then anyway.

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All right, well, good luck. Yeah, the game's the best. I love it.

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I bring this up to make the following point. Fantasy continues to find new ways to make me feel terrible about myself. Owen six is like, like we're in a league where our friend Brad, who drank like 15 sodas while eating candy and then took eight running backs and an 18 team, 18 player, and he's beating me. He took eight running backs out of 18 guys. He's beating me. I'm the one that's owing six, potentially.

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By the way, the Owen six thing is, Owen six is special because you've, you went out there and called people out for trading with Owen six teams. So I have people asking me like, is Bill untrade? You can't trade with him if he goes. Owen six.

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I wouldn't trade if I, if I'm Owing six, I would have traded last week because I feel like you're owing five. And in our league, you probably need to go seven and six and you can advance or whatever it is. Seven and seven might make it, but. Oh and six.

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Okay.

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Yeah. Oh and six. That would have to run the slate, right?

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I think eight and six. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's, I'd have to go, yeah.

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Eight and over. Seven and one. My team sucks.

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Good.

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I made some mistakes.

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Sal give at the end on that team, too. Enough with at the end. Why do you keep, why do you have Kenneth Walker?

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He's hurt my feelings. DJ Moore, two points today. Garrett Wilson.

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We don't have talk.

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Five points today.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, I just saw that.

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Well, today I start, I started Dac over Baker Mayfield and Caleb, so that went great. All right, AFC playoff picture really quick. Casey's five and oh and Houston's five and one. Baltimore and Pittsburgh are four and two. Buffalo and the Chargers are three and two. Nobody else is over 506 over 500 teams. NFC Minnesota's five and a, Detroit's four and one. Five teams are four and two, Phillies three and two. So the NFC is just better this year, I guess is the legacy of this season so far, right? Except for your division.

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Hmm. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, the Ravens are good, right? Chiefs are good. Texans we think are good. The Bills I still think will be solid. I'm looking at these numbers, though, for Super bowl and I know we're going to give out 500 teams between now and week 18. The packers at 20 to one is interesting. Feel like they're in a groove. I think they're in a little bit of a groove. Get them going. Young defense, Paul Hawking. They run the ball. Kind of do it all.

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I was looking at the MVP where Mahomes is sitting there three to one. Even though I. Would you say he's even having. This is probably the worst Mahomes years had.

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It's like six touchdowns and six interceptions. Yeah, it's not good.

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I just traded for him in our fantasy league or the keeper league. The Lamar second.

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So it's about to get worse for him is what you're saying.

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Yeah, probably. CJ Stroud plus 550 3rd Purdy's ten to one. Josh is eleven to one. Daniel's a 13 one. I personally think Stroud has been the MVP so far. Especially like he's never had three of those receivers for an entire game. I don't think now Nico's out for four games. Didn't really matter today. They went through the pass, but he's so good. We were like marveling at him today. There was a bunch, especially in the first half. There was a few times we just thought we had him or we were pressuring him or we're making him scramble. He's going to throw the ball away and then he's just really, really, really good. So I. You'd have my vote at plus 650.

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Excellent.

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Or 550. I don't know if the odds are good enough to bet on that yet. For Purdy. Ten to one. I probably like those odds the most.

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That, you know, we flip flop. I'm done. I promise I'm done flip flopping on Purdy. He's good. I like him. He's at least very good in that system. And ten to one's a nice number.

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Is Mayfield at 22 to one insane to at least discuss.

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He's so crazy, right?

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He's four and two and he's, his stats are nuts.

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Yeah.

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He might throw for like 4500 yards and 4005 TD's this year.

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Right? Right. What place can he come in the NFC south and still win it?

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Well, I think he'd have to win the NFC south, right. And he'd have to be probably the two seed. That's how you get it.

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Yeah. You can't win the NFC south at nine and eight and win it offensive.

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Rookie of the year Daniels is minus 190 right now. Caleb's plus 155, and that feels like a two horse race. My apologies to all the Bo necks rookie of the year bets. I think you can rip those up.

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And he's such a weird. I'm trying to figure him out, and as a, you know, go go ducks. But again, fourth quarter, he looks like a whole different quarterback. He really is. Like, it's like, what the hell is going on here?

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I guess he needs to be down 23 to feel. To feel.

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He's zipping it and he's running 15 yards for first downs and like, what? Where was this? Like, your kid is failing geometry and then he does some extra credit and, you know, like, it mops up the class and like, wait a minute, you have a c now. That's Bo Nicks after his fourth quarter. Like 236 yards, whatever. He had 25 at half.

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Taking a break for the pod. Coming back with a little more on the week six. So quickly. Just some notes I had from these games. Your team is -40 for the season now. Were you aware of this?

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I don't know, Mike. I'm going to kill you. We're not done talking about my team.

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I've just had. I wrote that down.

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Yeah, well, they've gotten killed three times, so that'll do it.

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Yeah. Steelers took care of business against the Raiders and really could be six. And, oh, when you think back to that Dallas game and then the fact that they had the ball down three against Indianapolis and the snap hit Fields in the helmet, all of a sudden it was like second and 28. Fields was bad today, and you kind of had to watch the game. I'm sure there's going to be a way to spin it. No, no, he wasn't that bad. Fields was bad. Fields was bad. And it feels like he's getting worse by the week, and some of it is. Pickens hasn't been really good either, and they don't really have a second receiver, but, um, he had just a horrible interception called back by this really dubious rough in the passer penalty that, by the way, was literally no different than Brian Burns and Burrow. I just, I have no idea how they decide which one of those is versus isn't rough in the passer, but I thought he was bad, and I was wondering if they're just better off with Wilson just being like a c plus.

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What do you think he'll do different? You think he'll throw? Cause the Wilson we saw last year, I'm with him to make the change. I'm like, what are they giving these guys a million and a half each, so you might as well just. Yeah, put them in every three plays. Who cares until you get it right? But what do you actually think he'll do different? He'll throw downfield better. Cause he probably won't run with it better than fields. So he'll just connect downfield. I felt like he shut down a lot with Denver.

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My fear with Fields is just that it just feels. He's feeling way more turnover the last couple of games.

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Yeah.

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And it just feels like balls are starting to hit his pass or hands are starting to hit his passes more. And I ended up betting on them today. I didn't have them for a million dollar picks, but I was just super nervous every time he went back to pass. So I was. I don't know what they do with that because they're four and two. Like, you know, they have a real chance to either win the division or be a six or a seven seed. And I don't know.

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I know there's a little bit of an arrogance. I think it's much like, aside from the moss years, it's like when Belichick wouldn't get a receiver for your Brady. That's what Tomlin's doing is like, well, I'm the.

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I'm going to win.

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I'm going to win without a quarterback or without a big name quarterback. You watch. This will be on me. I think there's a similar thing. They like it.

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There's two moves. Like they could, they could make a Devontae Adams play, which they're just. They only have one receiver really in the tight end. Najee Harris was good today, but the other move would be if New Orleans decided they saw enough from rattler that maybe car is available and maybe you could talk yourself in a car being a better version of Russell Wilson. You know, that's. That's all I could think of, though. There's not really any other, like, there's Jimmy Garoppolo types are out there, but it's nobody that's going to be. At least with fields, you could do stuff with his legs, which they started to figure out as today's game when we're on the vegas and some design scrambles and some QB draws and things like that.

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But that's the difference, right? That that's why he makes it up. So he could throw for 145 in a winning effort somehow with a great defense, but he's got to run for almost 60 and you don't get that from Carr.

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But who do you think has the bleakest quarterback situation right now? I will give you the raiders. Tennessee, Miami, Denver, and Cleveland.

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Cleveland.

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Cleveland. Right. Okay, so who's second, who feels second worse about their qbs right now?

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I think Miami. Cause you can't with a straight face say that Tua is going to come back and beat two of last year, I guess is the best two year.

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Yeah.

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Right. I don't know.

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Who would you say second Raiders? I mean, they're basically moving deck. Deck chairs in the Titanic. It's like we took Minshew out. Here's O'Connor. It's like, oh, he's terrible, too.

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Yeah.

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And then two weeks later, it's like, Minshew's back. He knows the offense better, and they're just moving people around who are just bad. Those guys are both bad. They're not starting quarterbacks. There's.

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I mean, I don't know. You want to say Carolina, too, or do we count?

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I would take Dalton over every Raiders. Tennessee, Miami, Denver, Cleveland. I would have Dalton over all of those guys. Right. At least he can move the team.

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You're right. I mean, even if the question is three years from now, it might still be Dalton. Better than O'Donnell or. Or Connor. Yeah, it's. I don't know.

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So, like, best facial hair he's had, I think.

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Right?

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Really strong. He's looking very red rocket. Falcons beat the Panthers. We can skip that. Chargers beat the Broncos. Chargers. Some good stuff from them today. They were at one point, they were living for 15 on third down, first three quarters, I think. But their defense, I think is good. I don't think it was just Bo Nicks not looking great, and I actually did. Chargers might have a good defense, so I'm keeping an eye on them. We'll talk.

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That was my best today.

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Yeah. You and I had that. Not a lot of people did.

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And then because they normally don't like to buy early, but this team was so banged up and with Joe all that and everybody, I was like, Herbert needs that ankle. And I'm like, I'm going to be so effing mad if this is a push with Denver scoring at the end. And then Peyton did the beautiful thing, kicking that field goal with a minute left. Giants tried it, too, but that guy can't kick, so didn't matter.

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But that was a passion point for me.

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Yeah.

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So Giants today, they're down ten. There's 56 seconds left, first down, and it's like the 28 yard line, and they hustle the field goal guy out. You need a touchdown or a field goal. You have to take three shots at the end zone from that spot.

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It's 28 yards.

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That's going to be 22nd. 20 seconds total. Take three shots. It's like a great pseudo Hail Mary spot, right? See if you can get the touchdown. Kicking the field goal. Now you're cut. Now you're just kind of hoping to get near that spot to try Hail Mary's again. Why not try them there anyway? Maybe you'll hit the first one. You have 50 seconds left. Teams, they never get it right.

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I'm with you. I think the one thing you can't do is trot your guy out there for a 46 yarder who just missed a field goal.

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Right like that. He's going to kick. Yeah, it's not.

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I know guys are nailing 57 yards, but your guy isn't. So at least get run one more play and get eight yards. You know, take 6 seconds off.

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So Eagles. Browns forgot to mention the blackjack browns. We talked about this every week. 16 today. So they're. They're their hands this year so far. 17, 18, 15, 16, 13, 16. This is an amazing streak. Every game they've played has been between 13 and 18 points scored. Yeah, it's got to be close to some sort of weird record.

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Well, let's.

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That's just their range.

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By the way, there's a defensive. You know, I could speak from experience. I had the Browns under 16 and a half, and so when they got that block kick return for touchdown like son of bitch. This is the only way. Can fanduel please put up just offensive points? Can we bet an over under on offensive points and not bullshit with kick returns?

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Like an all actual points scored by the offense?

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I'll pay extra vig. I knew they weren't scoring 16, but I have to sweat that out.

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Texans Pats. So Mixon was back, and this was a Joe house point from a couple weeks ago that I'm stealing. Like, the way they built this team. Nixon was a big part of it. Now they lost Nico Collins. He was going to be the deep threat part of it, but they wanted to be this power running team, and you could see it today against the Pats, so I thought that was notable. Packers cards. You mentioned the cards earlier. I just think they're an official. Stay away from me now. I don't want any part of a game I like. I just. I don't want to pretend I know what's going to happen with them. I don't think they know what's going to happen. They beat San Francisco by nine last week. They got murdered by Green Bay. I just think they're that team this year. They're going to like spot spotting and dimes, eating onions team. That's the team this year. Just don't, don't, don't pretend you know anything that's going to happen with them because they don't know either.

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I'm with you. But what happened? They played the Chargers, who was exactly the same way in the AFC.

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So this week, Bucks beat the Saints. Somehow I had Tampa. I vowed not to bet on the NFC south and somehow Tampa and in a bet today and. But I hate that division throw job by you.

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No, I, you know what? I wanted to stay away, too, but I like them in the second half, I'm like this. They're an underdog dog to win. They were down three going to, you know, a minute left in the first quarter. Yeah. So.

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So the Colts won their three and three their next six games home, Miami. Next week. That could be four and three at Houston at mini home, Buffalo. At the jets home, Detroit. So my guess is they win next week, and it's like the Colts four and three with Richardson. And then I could see them losing the next five and going from four and three to four and eight. Cause I don't think that team's very good.

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I don't either. I'm rooting for them, though. I want Flacco to bring every team to the playoffs, mine being the last one, in 2031.

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All right, are you ready to, you ready to do guest alliance?

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I think so. I gotta win at something. Come on.

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How many tanks, how many weeks in a row have I won?

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It's a lot. I think I only won the first and we tied. So you're up four one one.

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Today's guest alliance brought to you by workday. Get the whole band together with workday and pair finance and hr on one platform for an epic performance. With workday AI at the core, you'll make confident decisions faster than ever. You'll drive flawless business and finance operations with an agile platform that constantly evolves. To future proof your organization. Be a finance and hr rock star with workday. Visit workday.com to learn more. So Thursday night, this is really when sports goes a little haywire, when we have these baseball games that have these increasing importance. We have the Thursday Night Football. We have basketball about to start now WNBA finals, which I actually care about. I forgot to tell you this.

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Yeah.

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We replaced Atlanta Carolina on one of the four tv screens with. Yeah.

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Liberty.

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Second half of Liberty links. It was quite. It was the most important moment, they're saying, ever for the WNBA. Some people say it was Caitlin Carter and drafted. Others say it was when they replaced an NFL game on my tv on.

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A Saturday, switching it over. Wow.

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I just switched it over. We watched second half.

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Well, the Panthers, Falcons had no right being a late afternoon game.

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I was like, well, that was the case. It's like, why is this game a late. Like, yeah, this game shouldn't be on now, so I don't feel bad.

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You know what else that no right being late afternoon. The WNBA Finals put it on Saturday and Monday. Whatever. Come on.

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Well, there was. So they have all this. I did some digging. They had all this pre done ABC stuff, but I think they know they have to fix this. Their counter to it, though, is that the counter programming, the overlap isn't as big as, you know, you would allegedly.

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Think if they had data supporting that. God bless them. But, um, I.

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The point is, you want people like us who are just going to watch football if there's four good football games, even if we have money on the links. I went to game one of the WNBA, by the way, that was awesome. That game one. That was an awesome sporting event. I couldn't believe it. It was so good. Their fans were great, the liberty fans, like, they're, like, really, literally great fans. Like, knowledgeable. They're calling out, like, illegal screens and like that, like, real die hard fans. And there was great drama. There's good shot.

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The game was awesome. Right? There's a crazy call at the end of the players.

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I know, I know. They were the best in the world, really, for whatever, but the shot making and the skill that they have now is pretty nuts. The slash and kick, it was really good, but I had a great time. And then the Liberty won today. So now it's the best of three, basically, the next two or three, we have the links.

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Come on, links.

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We together. Game three is probably the hedge.

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You think so?

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I do, because the fact that the liberty were up by, I think, 15 plus in both games is a bad sign. I never like having the team that fell behind by 15 in each game in the first two games.

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The hedges, liberty's favorite, you know, by.

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Three in game three.

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Mm hmm.

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Well, maybe we ride the links.

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Yeah. All right. I mean, that's opposite of a hedge, but, yeah, I'll go with that.

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Ride the links. Maybe we hedge game four. Hope they win game three. That's the move. I mean, the move was to hedge today with the liberty, but the line wasn't good enough. All right, we're distracting everybody from guest lines. Thursday night, saints home for the Broncos. This was the Spencer Rattler Bo Nicks game everybody's been dying for, really, since to draft last April. What'd you think of Spencer Rattler, just out of curiosity?

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I was excited from the beginning, but I, like I said, I bet tamp in the second half. I'm like, I don't know, but did.

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You think he was competent? Like, what? What was your take?

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Yeah, I thought he was fine, but they, they got some weird. They had good field position for most much of that first half, right? Like, there was some baker turned it over a couple of times. I threw out a block kick in there, so I, I was trying to be calm about. I know it's exciting when a new quarterback steps up, but I didn't think.

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He had dare in the headlights. No, I thought he could move, and I actually thought he had pretty good moves when he was in the open field. Like, he's not like going into a slide. Like he was trying to juke people and get by people. His pass is little erratic but somewhat smooth. I didn't think he was bad. I didn't. My takeaway was like, that guy's not a starter. Like, I didn't feel that way. I felt like he's probably a low end starter.

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Yeah. Can I just say something, though? I feel like, I don't know if you saw this past Thursday, but they were promoting this Denver New Orleans game. And in the graphic, can you guess who was in the graphic? I know you said like, Rattler and knicks, but.

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Alvin Camara and Sean Payton, very close.

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Sean Payton and Cam Jordan. I love when they put the coach in there.

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I love Sean Payton and Cam Jordan.

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And Cam Jordan. The incomparable Cam Jordan. I mean, he's a great player, but they almost feel like they should give you a little money off if they're putting the coach in the graphic. Matching up the teams.

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I have saints by three over the broncos.

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Ooh, I had one and it's one and a half.

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That's stupid. Chiefs at the 49 ers is our Sunday marquee game.

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Definitely.

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I have the Chiefs favorite at the 49 Ers. Chiefs by one and a half.

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That's exactly what I had. But they have 49 ers by one and a half.

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Oh.

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Make sure that they have shocked.

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Wow.

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I'm really surprised, too.

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Wow.

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Like, can you do that? Can you have Chiefs in the Super bowl? Can you have Mahomes to win MVP for all the top of your odds boards, but then have the 49 Ers as a favorite. Three and three.

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I don't need to look this up. Mahomes, his record when he's an underdog by between like one and four points is like 122.

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Yeah.

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I don't think there's been like a better, more fun bet over the years than that. Right?

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I don't think there's any doubt that you're putting the Chiefs in a teaser and just waiting, just waiting to see who we could throw them in with.

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See now John Ewing or yeah, we like John Ewing. John Ewing could be like I heard bill say that Mahomes is it actually, he's four and seven between four points.

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It'll be a better than stupid man.

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49 ers favored. It's a lot of respect for a three and three team that really could have lost to Seattle last week.

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Well, this is the hang of the Super bowl chip on the shoulder game. I guess. I guess that's the only way to do it.

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I like 49 ers. First half Chiefs game. The bet that I've been clamoring for Fando, I, I, they wanted me to tweet out one today and I did the cousin south special for the Steelers. We had it. First half Steelers game was seven to one.

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I know there was that one field scored and ruined it. Yeah, that'll hit a jerk.

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It was seven six. I was like, this is perfect. They're doing.

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Yeah, I have it every week.

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Watchables. We have three. The first one's really good. Packers, Texans is a nice one. That's in Green Bay. I'm excited to watch it. Two teams that I like how they're playing, two well coached teams, two teams with fun quarterbacks, two teams that can occasionally look awesome running the ball, two teams that occasionally look like they can have an awesome pass rush. And I have the packers favored by two.

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That's what I had. It's two and a half. It's right there.

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Next one, Falcons home for the Seahawks. Seahawks started out three and three and, oh, another three and three.

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I got this. Exactly.

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Well, I did, too, because this one seemed pretty obvious to me. I had the Falcons by two and a half against Seattle.

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What? Why was that obvious? Well, you did get it. You did get it. Exactly.

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Because it wasn't going to be three.

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Three is the one you say, oh, it's obvious. It's three.

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Well, two and a half is the new three.

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I guess so. Yeah.

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It's like they used to be three. And then it started taking peptides. Now it's dropped down to two and a half. Yeah, the peptides have changed everything. Everything's thinner. Last one is, I feel like I've watched a lot of falcons this year by the way.

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Yeah.

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And once a game Kyle Pitts is wide open for like 40 yards. And then he's just, he's like a cat, you know, he just, he just runs away and you don't ever see him again. Like what happened to Kyle Pitts? I don't know. I think he's outside. He saw a mouse and it's, he's gone. But once a game he's just wide open. Nobody near him.

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This could be, I know the, the records are fine, four and two against three and three, but this could be the ultimate stay away. I mean, good luck trying to figure out Seattle's defense is really bad the last couple of weeks.

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Yeah. Something, something scary about betting on the Falcons is when they're favored. And I don't know what it is. Even today against the Panthers, which they ended up taking care of business. But even that game like oh God here they go.

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Yeah, they're going to win 21.

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Stupid Falcons game.

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Right.

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Last watchable is Lions at the Vikings. Now some would say why isn't this the Sunday marquee game? But 49 ers Chiefs, that's a Super bowl rematch. I mean, come on. So Lions, Vikings, awesome game. Classic game. It's in Minnesota and they're not going to be favored even though they're five and o. It's going to be Lions by one and a half is my prediction.

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All right, I'm going to get this. Even though I was off too, I said Lions by one. It's Vikings by one and a half.

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Whoa.

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All right, so you have your teaser. Go get it. Detroit, Kansas City, the road teams.

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I'm just betting the Lions straight up. All due respect to the great people of Minnesota, but I just, the Lions have not caught up with the Lions yet. Three weeks in a row. Where even the game today, I don't know, the three points was, how are they only three point favorites against Dallas without, you know, the injuries you guys have had, the fact that you can't run the ball and that you've fall behind every other game.

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Well, that's maybe the case against them. Like does that screw up a team after they play a dreadful, just hideous asshole team like the Cowboys? Maybe they just can't when they, then the next game is on the road against Minnesota. Can't adjust.

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Do you want to take a hypothetical video. We'll just bank it in case McCarthy gets fired tomorrow and they hire Bill Belichick or somebody.

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Is it just me laughing?

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No, it's like, all right, this is a futuristic time stamp we're dating that we're taping this, 928 Pacific time Sunday. Sal, the cowboys just fired Mike McCarthy. I can't believe it. What's your reaction?

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Well, first of all, I had no idea Jerry Jones had died. I mean, I feel like you would. You would have led with that first. So Stephen Jones stepped in there and hired an old man, Belichick. But he did. Rest in peace, Jerry. We're going to do great things. Coach Belichick, the greatest that ever was, is going to lead this team to a Super bowl that you'll unfortunately not see because you're clearly not around for this.

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It's an emotional time for me because I love Belichick and it's always fun to root against Dallas. But now Belichick's coaching the Cowboys, and, you know, I'm going to want him to do well.

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Love it.

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Throw in the ball. All right. Throw that. Kyle, cut that out just in case. I fairly watchables. By the way, Brady said something during that Lions game.

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If you caught it.

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He said something that was like, whoa. He was raving about their offense and he had a quote and I heard it in real time, and then I think it became a little bit of a thing online.

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He likes their culture.

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That would have been. He was talking about the Jaguars culture is really envious of it. No, he's basically talking about their offense. He was like, I would love to be in charge of an offense like that. I still think Brady's sitting there for, like, San Francisco, the Chiefs, or the Lions. If any of their quarterbacks got down, I think he's on the first plane. It's like, what about the Raiders? They all done? No, no, forget it. Screw the raider. Like, he's back. I. He posted a workout photo the other day. He's like, in the greatest shape he's been in, it seems like. I just feel like he's in hibernation. He's like in a fire extinguisher case, in case of emergency. Goat quarterback available.

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You think everything's a diversion. You might be right. Like the broadcasting. Everything's like just a decoy to get. I'm going to own this team.

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It's just a super weird thing to say. Like, Aikman wouldn't say that, right?

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Yeah.

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Like a be like, man, I would love to be in a charge of team like that, it'd be like, he would never say that because he's fucking retired. Brady said it in a way that it's clear he hasn't, like, totally given up playing football yet. You don't say that unless you still want to. At least the PC wants to play football.

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Well, Romo called the guard, the commanders, the Redskins today, so I feel like he wants to play, too. He definitely seems like he wants to go back.

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I thought it was 2000. That's good. I couldn't find that thing. All right, next, fairly watchables.

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Do you. Did you miss that? There's a London game.

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I have it right here.

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Okay.

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So I didn't want to talk about Jags Pats coming out of the gate. I wanted to bury it in the middle of fairly watchables because Drake May is now fairly watchable for the rest of my life.

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I'd bump it up, man. I'm actually excited to wake up for this one.

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All right, let's move it up to the watchables then. Fine. I mean, the best part would be if Lawrence sucked again and Mac Jones came in.

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Sure.

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And it was Mac Jones against Drake May. I don't know what I would do at eight in the morning, Pacific time with my coffin at him kicking.

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Might be earlier than that. Yeah.

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I have this in the Vegas zone. I have jags minus five against the Patriots in London.

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You're going to steal this from me. I had three and a half. It is four and a half.

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Hmm.

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Maybe you are the worst team. That's a high number for a bad favorite.

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I'll tell you this. The Pats culture on their sideline is going to make Doug Peterson feel better about his culture. It's like this. Anyone alive over there? What's going on? It's a culture game today. It's Drake May's first game. They announced it on a Tuesday for reasons that remain unclear. Right, let's remove all the mystery. Fans are fired up. Kyle showed up before 10:00 at my house for the first time, I think, ever. And it's like, here we go. We get the ball. Two awful runs into eight guys. Setting up the third and nine so he could sail it out of bounds. Cause he's under pressure. It's like we had all week. Those were our three plays. Nothing could have come up with one special wrinkle for Drake May's first series. That's what we're gonna do. It's just in a business. Yeah.

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It's like leading with the song that's off the new album that no one's heard. Right?

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Right.

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Come on, throw it.

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A play rollout. How about somebody in motion, a quick pass, like something to just get him going.

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Kyle, can we have.

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Can we have.

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Kyle, come on, for a second. I just want to write down. Give me a grade, a through f Kyle for Drake May today.

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Oh, my. Wrong person asked.

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Really?

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Over the moon. Go ahead, Kyle.

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Kyle, you've had a few hours to think about it.

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I'm going to say a. I'm going to say a.

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If there's a learning curve, if there's.

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A comparative, it's a compared to everything else we've had. Yeah. Especially when you think the rookie touchdowns today. Yeah, he had, like ten really good throws. And the other thing was, think about the rookies the first week of the season, none of them look good.

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Right. And Daniels lost by 17. Yeah, it's. That's true. All right, listen, I want this to happen. You don't even have to watch the Celtics the first three weeks. You got Drake May. This is fun.

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It's. We're deep in the season, man. We're already having. Is. Are we sure Jalen Polk is good? Conversations like he's had some drops. He's think he's got 24 targets, like nine catches. Yeah. The Pats are back, baby. Bills, titans in Buffalo. It's either seven or seven and a half. And I'm going to say seven good. Bills by seven.

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Glad you said that. I said seven and a half. It's eight and a half.

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Oh, Jesus.

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Might be the biggest on the board. Might be. I don't want to say.

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Eagles at Giants. Somebody is going to be super unhappy with their bet. Coming out of this game would be my prediction. What do you mean this might be a don't bet. This is a DNB. I'm declaring this a DNB.

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Yeah.

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How do you feel good about yourself? No matter how this goes, this is the Saquon Barkley revenge game, right?

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I mean, that's all there is to it. You were waiting for him to bust one open today, right? So to put the Browns money line.

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Bets to death, Eagles minus one and a half is my guess.

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I get this one, too. It's Eagles minus three and a half. I said two and a half.

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That's fucking stupid. That's a dumb line. That's going to come down. The Eagles aren't good. How many weeks in a row can we watch the Eagles not be good before we all agree that they're not good?

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Whose revenge is it? Though. Who's angrier? Like, if you were to move the line a half a point saquon, giant state.

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I mean, I mean, the Giants only scored seven points today. All right, last one. Bengals. Browns, that is in Cleveland, assuming Deshawn yet again at Bengals by three.

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Oh, wow. I'm going to win this week. I had five. It's four and a half.

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Ridiculous.

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Do you think Cleveland was looking ahead to this game? No.

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You know what? I fucked that up because we, we noticed this today with that Eagles line. They're just adding two to three points to these teams. Cause nobody wants to bet on Deshaun. Nine and a half.

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That was just read their point total for every game. And it's 13, 1415. You know, they should not be favored.

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By four and a half on the road.

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They suck.

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Anybody? They suck.

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They do.

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So this line should be two and a half and there's just two extra points because they're basically daring you to bet on Deshaun, but they.

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20 points suck. Browns are. They're 14 point, you know.

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Yeah, it's right in there. Poop vector. Colts, dolphins, Indianapolis. The Dolphins just cannot be getting less than three and a half against anybody. That's even mediocre. So I'm going to say colts by three and a half.

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You get this. Exactly. It was four and a half, but went down to three and a half. I said two.

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So you got not dead yet?

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Nope.

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Washington home for the Panthers. It's got to be at least seven. So I'm just going to say Washington by seven.

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Shit. Here comes, here's the comeback. I said six and a half. It's eight and a half. Let me add these up.

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That's a teaser.

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Two, three.

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Although the way Washington's defense, I don't know if I trust them to hold the tease.

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They gotta win that if they're for real. True.

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So what is it?

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It's the Ron Rivera. No, you got it. I said seven.

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What's the, what are the records? What do we have?

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Oh, it's 86 still me. Eight to six.

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So Washington has Washington's four and two, and they have Carolina this week. Chicago next week at the Giants. Week nine. This is. They've got to come out of this stretch. Six and three, ideally seven and two, but six and three, I think.

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And the Giants might be like a pick them game like, then they'll be favored. And some of those others. This one for sure.

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Okay. Rams Raiders in Los Angeles.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Doesn't matter. Yeah.

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Do you want to predict the line, but then the line versus fight videos in the stands that start coming on instagram that night.

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You're right.

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I'll do the line first. I have the Rams by two and a half over the Raiders.

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Okay, good. I said three and a half. It's four and a half. Everyone's down on those cornerbacks that you hate.

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That's stupid. Is there cup and naku in next week, though?

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Vegas zone? I don't know. I would think one of them might be healthy right after they had the buy, right?

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All right, so four and a half. So how many Instagram fights of people fighting in the stands during this game? Like, probably the same, right? Four and a half.

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Oh, more. It's got to be more in the stands. Or could it be outside the stadium, too? Because there's a bunch.

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That's the stands concourse or parking lot over.

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Give me the over.

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Eight and a half?

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Yeah. And Fanduel, you should put this up. Let's have some fun.

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I don't know if Rosello's talked about this on this podcast, but on his podcast, but this is a passion pointer. Racillo, with the. With these fight videos from the stands. He says every single time, the guy who's higher up wins the fight.

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Yeah.

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Because he's got leverage of like a foot. Right. And you can come down and the other guy's looking up and I. It's just, you know, in boxing, you might be able to pull that off, but when the stairs are like that, the guy who's lower always loses.

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Almost always. There was one recently, I think it was a hockey fight and somebody pointed out, like, what kind of loser you have to be to. You dropped a fight to a 14 year old and while you were on higher ground, but yeah, once and you got.

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Saw that one. Yeah.

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You got to grab the shirt just right. I think, for it to work.

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Well, what do you do if you're lower?

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That's what I mean, I think you gotta. You gotta.

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So you gotta bring him shirt and then uppercut.

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Yeah, yeah, you gotta get him in there.

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Yeah, it's like, where do you go, right? Do you punch right in the balls? Cuz that's like you have direct shot for the straight, right?

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Yeah. You have the wife or girlfriend distract and then. And then you start biting his ear. That's the only way to do it.

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Is the other one is when the person comes from the side, same row, and sometimes misses and then falls forward and then tagged from behind and then might hit his head with the chair. I would watch like, an hour long breakdown of do's and don'ts for this.

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I would love it, too. And I'll go even further. I would like win probabilities attached during these fights to see who the hell I'm rooting for, who I should be rooting for.

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Listen, when I see the person lower versus the person higher, it's already 20% win probability.

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If you're low, it's gotta be. We took some shit for that. But I do want to make one. People like, oh, yeah, but you guys are all for. You're okay if they put live lines on there? I was like, yeah. Cause that's a real thing.

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That's something way different.

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That's a tool that you could use and make money or lose money or something. One probability does nothing for you.

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I'm really trying to like the WNBA and, you know, appreciate the place it's in the links. Did a win probability after they won game one, and I was outraged. Yeah, it's like, whoa, we were down and then 99%, then we. It was like, oh, you mean when you hit a four pointer down three to take a lead with 5 seconds left, your win probability was pretty low.

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It's unlikely.

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Yeah, it was unlikely you're going to win at that point. As people were leaving because they thought the liberty had already run, I needed a stat for this.

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You know, you should have started a fight in the stands at the Lynx Liberty game. That would have been great.

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Only with people below. I don't. I don't go backwards.

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Yeah, it's gotta be people that would have been Todd. Because you were court side, probably, right? I think so.

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It's not courtside. Who am I, Tommy alter? Come on. All right. Sunday night, jets at Pittsburgh. I don't know who wins this game, but it's going to be ugly. I don't think. It's going to be very fun to watch. And I feel like whatever side I picked, I'm going to lose the bet. I might have to stay away. It was like the Giants game today. I. Even though I had a million dollar picks in real life, I was like, I'm staying away. I just know my feelings.

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The Steelers are an automatic stay away. You're just really, you're just not. You're not watching. If you don't say it's a.

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It's a rat line, I'm going to say, oh, man. I'm going to say Steelers by one.

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That's what I said. It's one and a half.

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So you beat me.

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We could be done we could be done with the picks, too. Yeah, but we could be done with these two teams. The night games, right? I feel like, I think the jets have like three more. I don't need to see the jets every freaking night game.

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Do you want to hear about Jeff Ulbricht? How beloved he is in the locker room? This guy, you know, he has handshakes with Mike. He's got handshakes with all 53 guys. I don't know how he remembers that many handshakes, Mike. He's playing everybody's hand, Mike.

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Let's go to our next gen stats, Mike, and see how many handshakes Jeff Ulbricht has.

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He's number two in PFF for handshakes with with players. Collinsworth had a good one today talking about Daniel Jones. I was thinking of you.

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What was it? I think that's on.

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He tours ACL. Do you know how hard it is to rehab, Mike? Do you know how hard it is to rehab and come back? Know hard that is? And he's out there running around.

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Did he let Mike answer? Does Mikey at least get to answer how hard, Mike?

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I think Mike's just nothing. He just.

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What's the win probability for Daniel Jones in a night game? Rehab correctly when he's rehabbing? Yeah.

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We have two Monday night games this week for reasons that remain unclear. Why are they doing that? This is. There's no way. There's not a million things going on.

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You know what it is? It might be to shut people like you and I up because, well, here's another thing. I don't realize why they do. I don't understand. There's only two buys, the Bears and the Cowboys. So when there's four buys that knocks out a game for the 01:00 p.m. kickoff. Maybe they're moving one of those. I mean, he certainly look like one. You know, one of them looks like.

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I don't know, Ravens at Tampa is one of them. And that's a really good game.

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That's a good.

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I think the Ravens are favored by minus two and a half.

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You're going to get that. I said two and it's four and a half away. Let me make sure you're not striking distance here. Four. 5678-123-5678 910. Now I have ten. You have eight.

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Congratulations. Did it. Last one. Cardinals. Chargers.

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Cardinals home, right?

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Yep. I have Cardinals by two.

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Um, yeah, I had Cardinals by one and it's Chargers by one and a half.

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Oh, it's a little strange. I think the Chargers defense is good. Like legit good.

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Yeah.

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So there's that. Maybe. Maybe Vegas.

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Yeah. Bosa plays. It's nice. It's kind of nice when they have pressure.

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So next week for the multiview on YouTube tv.

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Oh, yeah. You got to pick this.

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Well, I have to pick it, but it's the hardest week because seven games, Vikings in the early games. Lions, Vikings, Seahawks, falcons, eagles, giants, Texans, packers, Texans, packers, titans, bills. Those are five really good games. Plus, I'll be in a hangover after Jake May as his first win in London against middle seat. Middle seat. Middle seat. Doug. His last game before.

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He's going to want to see you in his office now. He's going to say goodbye. You can.

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Colleen Wolf and Gerald McCoy. Two weeks I'm here. Middlesea Doug has joined us.

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Middle seat. Do you want a club soda and what? Mixed nuts or roasted nuts? Okay.

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Middle seat. Would you like a stale cheese plate?

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You don't have to. I don't think Tennessee Buffalo needs to be in there. I think that's a game for 40 minutes.

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Listen, I think you're underestimating Will Levis. It's pretty fun twice a game when.

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You, when you're looking at the will.

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Levis TV and his hands are on his helmet and the other team celebrating, so they cut to coach Callahan, who's just like, I don't know what we do. Know what we should do.

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How fast can we trade for Deshaun Watson?

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Looks like that was guest alliance. Thanks again to work day for sponsoring this segment. B a finance and HR rockstar with workday. To learn more, visit workday.com dot. We're going to take a break for the pod and then do a paracord quick. All right, Parancorner. Sal, what do you got?

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I have two. I'll be quick. First one, my son Archie goes to Oregon. He was there for Oregon, Ohio State. He slept over. Cause game day was there. He slept over. Yeah. So they stacked him in there. So he got there at two in the morning and he had signs. He and his buddy had signs. And, uh, they didn't get on camera or anything, but they were there, you know, because it's important. You have to see an ex punter flexed topless. So you got to get. You got to line up like three, right? 233 in the morning. That's what he did. So then they're exhausted for the game itself, but that place was really loud. Great win by Oregon over Ohio State. Rush is the field, and my thing with rushing the field is I'm like, don't do it. If you're a ten point underdog and you're playing a top five team, then you could do it. Basketball or football, that was always my rule. They were like a three and a half point on the dog. He rushed the field. He looked like he had the time of his life, but I feel like I'm a curmudgeon with that.

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Are you that way, too, or you, like, do you have, like, a standard?

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You talk about a pass rush or the field?

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Yeah, pass rush.

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Rush to field.

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Yeah.

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That was a pretty big game. And how many times do two, two versus three? I'm for it when it's giant games like that. I think when it's like, okay, a little lower stakes. I'm not. Not as good with.

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You know why I think I'm against it? Because I watched your documentary, the Woodstock 99. Right. And I was like, oh, my God. What are these people doing now? This is. I don't like crowds, but I'm also an old idiot. But anyway, so he. Time of his life.

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I mean, was that the first time they beat a top two?

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It was huge. It was a huge one. Yeah, it's a big one. What was your other 1 second one? So I'm headed to Dodger Stadium tomorrow, right. And I'm bringing the kids with, taking them out of school. I know I'm gonna get in trouble for saying that. And I'm, like, nervous. It's a day game. My son Jack, who dressed as grimace, I don't know if you remember. I think I sent you the clip. Back in June. We went to Anaheim. They played the angels. He dressed as grimace. He was getting high fives. I did this parent corner before. It was the time of his life. He wants to do it again tomorrow. And I was like, listen, this is different. And, you know, he, like, sees grimace on the seven train in New York getting mobbed, and he sees, you know, and, like, all the good stuff, and he remembers Anaheim. I was like, the angels were 20 games out, and it was over 100 degrees. I'm like, someone's gonna punch you or spit on you or say something, and I'm gonna be nervously watching. I'm gonna have to say something back, and it's not good.

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And my wife is like, oh, well, let's bring the costume in the clear bag that I'm allowed to bring in a. He could just put it on the seat. I'm like, no, and the seat is no good. We're not in a luxury box here. We're. Yeah, we have average seats. Like, don't. I don't want to. You got to have my back here. You got to have your wife text Melissa and say, we can't. We can't have him.

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It's a playoff game. No gimmicks for playoff games.

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And they're on the road. It's not. It's not going to be well received.

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Also, like, what happens if you don't have leverage in the. In the fight, in the stance, in the grip costume.

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Griffiths is very good. Big. You could take care of.

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Well, if it's behind you. Remember, grab the shirt uppercut. Okay.

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Yeah. All right. So you're saying.

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And then you have a grimace. A grimace next to you, like, finishing them off, like, just hammering.

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So you're saying if we get the highest seats in the joint, you got to be good.

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Nobody can be behind you.

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That's good. That seems like a win win win for everybody.

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All right. I'm anti gimmick for an actual play off.

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Thank you. Okay. Anti grimace anti gimmick.

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That's it. I'm gonna have to tell, like, I'm gonna get in trouble.

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Yeah.

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My parent corner, as usual, for the 6th straight week. I can't do any of the ones involving my son. You're gonna have to go to the dark web for that one. So my mom, as you know, Sal, I'm half italian.

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Sure.

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As we've joked, the Italians are different breeds. The closest pop culture has ever come to capturing it, which they captured fully, was the sopranos. All the fucking weirdness with italian families, just all the guilt trips, all the fucking dark shit, it's all there.

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So your mother has you killed. Your mother eventually puts a hit on.

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Don't rule it out. She's still alive. So House was coming this week, and my mom loves house, and house loves to eat. And I was like, you haven't cooked in a while. House is coming. You know, and Kyle. And it's Drake May's first game. Like, if there was ever a week you were gonna cook, this is it. So I didn't hear back, and then I texted later, I'm like, hey, are you gonna cook for us? And she sent me a short text back, well, you guilt tripped me enough, so I guess I have to. So now we're immediately. We're immediately on that ground. So during the game today, she showed up with a bunch of food during the. During the late games, doorbell range brought in, didn't want to stay. She made ravioli, brajoles, meatballs, big thing of rice pudding, put all of it in, brought some bread, and it was really great. And then made a point again of how I guilt tripped her and how she spent two days making everything. I don't know if I totally believed the two days, but that's fine. And it was all delicious. And Joe house ate a lot, and now he's.

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He's like Bobby Bacala on the couch right now as you do this podcast. I don't know how much.

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Couldn't even get up to say he ate a ton.

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He's like, tone. But it was great. And the lesson, as always, is guilt trips work in italian families.

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Yeah. Whether you're the son or the parent, right? Or the kid. Yeah.

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But she did on the way out, she's like, you could come by and see me every once in a while. Keep in mind, I was gone. I was literally gone for eight days. It was in the east coast for eight days. But somehow it's my fault that. No, I call it a couple times.

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Visit your mom, and you'll get Brajole is the bottom line here.

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The guilt trips? I don't know what other ethnicities have guilt trips.

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Jewish. Yeah, Jewish.

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Because you have. So you have both.

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My mother's Jewish, my father's italian, and it is just a clash of. It's a guilt trip around the world is what it is.

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Crazy. Uh, here's my other parent corner. This is more of a husband corner. My, uh, my wife went to go see my daughter today and did a 07:00 a.m. flight. So I was like, all right, pack the night before. Put everything outside our bedrooms so that you don't wake up. I gotta wake up early for this. Jags, pats, the Jags London game. Um, but if you do everything night before you sneak out, you won't wake me up. And it'll. It'll. And she's like, no, no, that's why I'm not gonna wake up. That'll be good. And, um, it must. It was five minutes in shape. 445. I'm wide awake. She's like, ah, where is it? Oh, my God. And she's like, just swearing at herself in the bathroom because she misplaced something. So I've been up since 445 this morning.

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What's worse, the guilt trip or the exclamations? Looking for a hairbrush.

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Well, does your wife do the. Do the monolog. This monolog to their self when they're frustrated?

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Yeah, from room to room.

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Guys, don't do this.

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No, I don't think so.

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This is like a specifically more toward maybe just our wives. Another. But, yeah, they. It's just this running monolog where they. I don't know who they're talking to, and we can't hear. You just hear muffled, like, anguish arguing with no other person in the room.

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I feel like if I did that, she'd put me in an insane asylum. But, yeah, she gets carte blanche. She gets to be able to.

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Oh, my God. And now I can't find my keys. And it's like, this is a Netflix movie. You're the narrator of, like, what? There's nobody else here. It's just me.

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Yeah, I like it.

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So I don't know. There's got to be some reason for the monolog. Yeah, like that. I think they want us to hear. Sometimes they'll do this stuff like, well, I guess. I guess I'll be the one who cleans up the kitchen again. And you'll be like, all right, that was directed at me. But then there's other times where they're not really talking to anybody. It's just like, outer monolog.

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Yeah, but if you bring it up to them, it doesn't. Probability of winning that argument is zero.

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Kyle. Kyle's. Only. Kyle doesn't. Hasn't had kids yet, but he did get married last year. Kyle, does your wife just have monologs with herself that you're not involved in?

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No, actually, this was kind of a moment. I think I might be the monolog guy, so I'm gonna really.

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You're the monolog guy. Interesting. So maybe it's. Maybe it's one spouse in the couple as the monologist.

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Yeah, you. You claimed your turf there as a monologist.

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Kyle did? Yeah, my wife. I like. Just clearly the monologist in our family.

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Yeah, sort of rabbits and stuff, though, too.

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See, instead of people giving us feedback on when probability. This is what I want. Feedback.

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Right.

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Who's the monologuest in your relationship?

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Yeah, because there's always one. It can't be two, because then you just drive each other nuts all the time. And then maybe when you turn, like, 75, everyone becomes a monologist.

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Is this why Brad didn't get married? Because he's just having a monolog with himself?

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A lot of personalities there. Yeah.

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Brad, my wife, your wife, and Kyle. Those are our four examples.

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So far, Brad has never caught a 07:00 a.m. or 07:00 p.m. flight. They're both too early.

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Yeah. Next time, the 07:00 a.m. flights. Not happening. Anyway, that was parent corner. We got a plug this week, Sal. The Mets come back.

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There we go. Come on, let's get some wins here. Let's make this exciting. But we have, against all odds, podcasts and the ring of podcasts network right here through the ringer with Tate Frazier. The Ringer pregame show. I hit an SGP Simmons. When the hell is that app? Oh, my chargers. Yeah, that was fun. And on cousin Sal's winning weekend, I'm interviewing Anthony Richardson.

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Oh, interesting.

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It is. Well, it's Tuesday and I mean, it airs Friday, so what do I say about his availability? It's a little. It's a little tricky.

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Hmm. Maybe talk about the combine.

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Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for me to become.

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An NBA hole again or. No, no.

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Oh, you're gonna do it already. You're already sending texts about what you put in on fandor and stuff. OKC.

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And I was back.

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All this.

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It's all of a sudden it's. It's really easy to just make some crazy bets. They have one seeds, all stuff we'll be talking about this week in the pot. All right. Love it, Sal. Good luck with the Mets. Good job by you.

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Good job.

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Are you buddy? Thanks to Kyle Creighton for producing, as always. Thanks to Steve Ceruti and Gahal as well. Don't forget, you could subscribe to this YouTube feed and then you wouldn't be surprised when we pop on there. And I'll be back on this podcast on Tuesday.

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Bye, everybody.

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