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Rest easy, you temporary Jessica's welcome to the Blind Boy podcast. What's the crack? How are you getting on? I'm going to open this week's podcast, ladies and gentlemen. With a piece of poetry, we haven't had a poem, we haven't had a poem in a while. Sometimes I read out poems that have been sent to me by a very famous Hollywood celebrities and we haven't had one in a while. And so this week I was sent a poem by Hollywood actor Jamie Dornan.

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So I'm going to read out his poem. It's called The Suntanned Man. CLASP hands with the suntan man, he's kinkaid ankles, bandage to a catamaran, the sun screams from his open mouth, don't stare directly into the glaring flame. Don't get a suntan. You'll burn in the rain torch the nettles by the bus stop. The suntan man is dangling Panama from his wrist watch. His dancers bounce like a comet. Collect your daughter on a Wednesday by the Nolt.

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Pour it on your balls. Watch it face. Thank you very much, Jamie Dornan. For taking time out of your busy Hollywood schedule to send us that lovely piece of poetry there, thank you very much. So here we are, here we are, the last the last podcast of 20/20. If you're a brand new listener, you're very welcome. Go listen to some older episodes, please. I always recommend that if you're brand new. And if you're if you're a regular listener, you know the crack.

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So this week's podcast is a blistering hot take. It's a battleship mental heartache that I've been researching for quite some time. It's conspiracy theory podcast. But you know me, when I do conspiracy theories, I make sure that it's heavily backed up by evidence so that, yes, it's a conspiracy, but it's incredibly plausible. So that's what this week's podcast is, what I will do a little intro first before we get onto the juicy the juicy meat of the heartache, but last podcast, the 20/20.

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So I feel this I feel this obligation to synopsize the year. And it's like, wow, how the fuck do you do that? How the fuck do you do that, 20-20 is ridiculous, 2020 was a fucking ridiculous year. Not because of what happened, but because. It doesn't feel like a year. I don't know what to call it. What the fuck was that? I thought I can say, what the fuck was that? I literally I haven't left my gaff in a year, neither of Moslehi.

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The fuck was that? It's all I can say about 2020, I genuinely don't feel as if a year has passed. I feel as if it is. December 2019, genuinely, that's what it feels like and how fucking mad is that? And if you're someone wanting to know one thing I will say to a. At the start of the pandemic start to 2020, a lot of us made promises to like engage in these new creative projects or to write a play or whatever the fuck.

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If if you here's the thing. If you said yourself, fuck it, we're going into quarantine and going to use I'm going to finally do that thing that I've been put enough. I'm going to write that book. I'm going to write that play. I'm going to farm that band, whatever it was. If you didn't do it, that's fine. OK, if you didn't do it, that's fine. Don't be at the end of 2020 with a feeling of fuck, I didn't do that thing I promised myself I would do.

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Start new projects is terrifying and really, really difficult, and at the start of the pandemic, we were like, oh, look at all this free time. Look at all this free time to fill up and do and fill with creative things. It wasn't really free time because it was very, very stressful, free time in extraordinary circumstances, so therefore that's not free time. That's. Insane time and so to act, to have expected of yourself to perform at your best during 2020.

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That's an unrealistic expectation. OK, so don't be hard on yourself. Whatever the fuck you did to cope with 20/20, if you binged a lot of box sets, if that's what you did, then that's what you needed and that's the best thing for you. And don't be hard on yourself. If you didn't do that big project that you decided to do whatever the fuck you did with your time, whatever failed your day, whatever helped you to cope was the right thing for you.

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And I said that at the start of this pandemic, I said the only expectation that any of us should have from ourselves is to cope because the circumstances are extraordinary and extraordinary stressful. So whatever way you coped Fairplay to you did your fucking best. Don't be feeling like shit because you didn't write a play or whatever it was you promised or said, fuck that. And what can I what can I say to round up the ER. I'm one positive I'll take from it which we can all collectively grow is.

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I remember last March, February, March, when the World Health Organization said we've got a pandemic. This is a big deal, and nobody living had experienced a pandemic before, we hadn't experienced this, and around February, March, it was really, really, genuinely, existentially terrifying. OK, really, really terrifying. People were stockpiling food. People were buying all the bread and toilet rolls. There was panic. When I would speak to people on the phone in March, no matter who it was, there was a real trepidation and terror and anxiety in people's voices.

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A lot of people genuinely last March, a lot of people genuinely entertained the idea that this was going to be the complete and utter collapse of society. And by this time December, that we would be like locked up in our fucking houses like some type of zombie apocalypse. And a lot of people went through that phase of last March of genuinely thinking, fuck, this is the end of the world, this is going to be like Mad Max, because when we get frightened, it's human to entertain Worst-Case scenarios and a lot of people entertain the worst case scenarios.

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And you know what, it's a year later and it didn't happen. Now, if you're someone who has lost family members to covid or has, you know, if covid has genuinely devastated your life and for some people it has. I'm really sorry. I'm not speaking. I'm not speaking for your experience. Right. But for most people and people who I speak to. It hasn't what has happened is not has not been conducive with our worst case scenario fears back in March.

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So the collective fear and anxiety that had people buying all the toilet paper, it didn't happen and that there I think is a good thing. Because what it does is it tests your fears, it tests your rationality, and from that you get you can really grow from that as a person, if you know what I mean. And to reiterate, I'm not minimizing the impact of coronavirus and the misery it caused. I'm just saying the worst case scenario of societal collapse, which a lot of people entertained, didn't happen.

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And yeah, you've got your fuckin a.. Mask decades. But what you also saw was a lot of caring, a lot of compassion, a lot of people willing to help out, a lot of cooperation. You saw a lot of positives of humanity, which was really fuckin encouraging, too. And I suppose what you get to learn from 2020 is resilience against challenges. We were all really resilient. We all coped in some way. We coped day to day with a scenario that if you'd suggested to us two years ago as a possible scenario, we just go, no, the world's fucked everything.

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Everything's going to be on fire. It'll be like the Stone Age, you know what I mean? But we didn't. We coped. We coped, and we get on with it. And everyone was massively inconvenienced, but we coped. And there's there's great growth in this. I speak a lot about the importance of failure, right? I'm always chatting about people said to me, what's the most important part about art? And I always say failure, embracing failure.

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And I want to tell you now, you know, how the how that I learn that how did I learn the importance of failure? I learned it from direct experience. Right. And I'm going to move away from covid now and speak about something less important and more selfish. But it was important to me in terms of worst case scenarios and learning about fear of failure. So if. If you're an artist, not even an artist, if you're somebody right, who has to set goals and then achieve those goals, whatever the fuck it is, setting a goal and then achieving that goal, a big goal.

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In my job, I have to do that. I have to, like, write fucking books, write TV series big projects that require me 100 percent to motivate myself and nobody else can do what I have to do it. Anyone who has to do that will tell you the biggest obstacle is always your fear of failing. If you're afraid of failing, afraid of the humiliation of failure. If you're if you're that way, you tend to you fantasize about the worst case scenario of failure, and that then stops you from trying.

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So that's the biggest enemy of anybody who has to do something that requires the setting and achieving of goals. The fear of failing. And that would stop you doing anything. And I used to be I used to be really crippled by that. I used to be really crippled by the fear and humiliation of failing. And as a result, there's a shitload of art that never got created all through my 20s, there's songs that were never written, there's TV series that were never made, there's books I never wrote.

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There's a bunch of shit that I never, ever made because I was too scared of what if it fucking failed? And what got me over that is I had the biggest failure of my fucking life, the worst case scenario happened in about 2016 when we had this TV series called the Almost Impossible Game Show on ITV. Right. We is in the rubber band. That's right. And it was like it was a comedy game show thing and it was fucking great crack.

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I used to love doing it. I used to love writing. You know, I'd be writing every week right in the fucking script first, then we'd go and do all the jokes in a studio. And it was quite popular. It was this, it was popular fucking like TV show on ITV and it was great crack. And then in twenty sixteen I think. The almost impossible game show, our TV show got bought by MTV, USA and commissioned by MTV USA, which at that point was the biggest thing that ever, ever happened to me in my entire career.

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So my whole fucking career in TV and entertainment, this was the big moment, an MTV, USA, American fucking MTV, MTV, one, whatever big channel was, had commissioned our TV show and I'm talking prime time American TV, as in me having a TV show that people in fucking Nebraska and Colorado watch at 8:00 p.m. on fucking MTV, millions and millions of people. It would have been a huge game changing. It was going to be on after the Nick Cannon show on MTV in America.

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And they they'd given us two seasons. I was I was getting ready to move to Los Angeles, put it that way, spent the whole year working on it. Right. It making it it went out on MTV. Right. Everyone had been told rubberband. Let's have a fucking TV series on MTV USA. Holy fuck. Holy fuck. And we thought they were just a novelty act. And here they are now with the TV series on MTV in America.

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Wow. They've proved those wrong. And I went out and it got canceled after one episode. And that right there in my industry, that is the worst thing that can happen. That's the worst thing. That is the biggest possible failure is to be given your one huge chance, massive chance, mainstream American TV and for it to get canceled after one episode. That's such a huge failure that people don't touch you. You're not spoken about like when that TV show got canceled, the people I made it with didn't even email me.

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It was such a massive, huge, embarrassing failure that it meant that, like, you're not even going to be spoken about in TV circles. You can't even apply for a TV job because the failure is so colossally huge that it's the worst thing that can happen. And the worst thing happened to me in my job. The big the big one shot at American TV canceled after one show, it happened the worst possible thing. All my fears, everything I would have been terrified of that kept me, which was.

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Here you go. You've gotten to the finish line, you've done it. And then it fucking flops and it's humiliating. And everyone's asking, where's your TV show? I read in the paper that you have this big TV show on America. Where is it? So the worst possible thing happened. Was it as bad as how I fantasized it would be, having spent all this time worrying about what if something gets canceled? What if I'm what if I am publicly and massively a failure?

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It happened, was it as bad as my fantasy? No, it was not. It was unpleasant. It was unpleasant. I'm not going to say it was nice, but it certainly wasn't. The colossal, terrifying, awful thing that I fantasized about for years that I could never allow happen and that prevented me from getting work done and that right there. I'm actually glad it happened for years on. Because it made me immune to the fear of failure.

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It made me understand that failure is just something it's something that probably might happen and you just have to go against it anyway. And if Falcon freed me and if I'm being honest, the TV show we made was Chase. It was really, really shit. The jokes were fucking shit. The format was shit. Yeah. I was going to be on MTV. Yeah. People in Nebraska and all over that would know who the fucking rubber bands are, but they'd know for a pile of shit.

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It was a pile of shit. And then when that happened, all of a sudden I got over the initial disappointment of a huge show being canceled and I felt this incredible freedom. And then what do I do? I write a fucking book in a year. I started this podcast. I did my BBC series, which I'm way, way happier with, something that I consider to have integrity, I don't think the impossible game show had much integrity.

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So it also completely changed my definition of what success is. My definition of success back then was like, oh, fuck, man, get get getting a TV show on MTV, but is that really a success if I'm not happy with the work? But my books are a success. This podcast is a success. Why? Because I love them. I love making them and I'm proud of the work and I earn a living doing them. So therefore, for me personally, there is success.

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If someone else doesn't like them, that's fine. That's their business. But I actually really, really love what I'm doing. And I can't say that about some of that TV stuff and some of the rubber banded stuff. You know, it actually allowed me as an artist now to be a million times fucking happier than I was back then. I'm fully independent and I'm consistently making work that I love. I love this podcast. I love writing books.

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I love doing my BBC stuff, the blind boy stuff. I fucking love it. I'm so much happier. And it only exists because I had such a massive, massive failure and was able to see it wasn't pleasant. But my fantasy about how terrible it was going to be. That's not real. That's not fucking real. So the reason I'm telling that story, I suppose, is. It's it's that's how I'm feeling about 2020, that's how I'm feeling about 2020, we all fantasized about catastrophic worst case scenarios.

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With the pandemic, we all fantasized about catastrophic worst case scenarios, but the reality is it was deeply unpleasant, but we coped and it wasn't like how we thought it would be. And from that, collectively, there's real strength in that there's a real sense that you can you can you can strengthen and grow from 2020 and it can chill you out. And you can you can go. You know, was no matter what happens, you can actually fucking cope, so that's 20-20 for me and apologise now for making that about myself and talking about.

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Me, fucking me and my bloody MTV series, as if that's it, that's that's not important. That's really not important. But the reason I spoke about it is that. I what I learned from it is important, what I learned from it is important. All right. I can I fuckin I confronted the dragon, let's we all have. Carl Jung, I suppose, would call it our shadow. We all have this dragon, this demon insiders that we're terrified of.

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That doesn't exist, but we're terrified of it and we behave as if it is real and we plan our lives to avoid this, whether it's fear or fail and fear of humiliation and fear of letting people down. I fucking confronted the dragon and realized that, like mine, this dragon is only a gold. I was given far too much credit to this dragon, just a fucking lizard with a Gammy leg. It'll be fine and I'm free of the dragon shadow.

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Sounds like him after doing a lot of fucking acid. No. But I say I said, actually, I'm going to use that as a Segway or a segue, if you've ever seen it being Spellman, I saw the word Segway spelled NCGUB of sorts for years and thought it was called Seage and then found out when I started writing books. It's Segway NCGUB, Baraza, Seage. I'm going to begin by talking about the north of Ireland in the 1970s, and it's going to end with at least a.

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All right. This is this is a deep dive of an episode saw in the early 1970s right there, the summer of 1971. In the period in which the start of what we commonly referred to as the troubles in the north of Ireland. A secret division of the British army was created called the Military Reaction Force. OK, now this is the British army. These are British army army officers who were wearing plain clothes. They weren't wearing uniforms. They didn't carry with them any British army insignia.

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They were pretty much told that even if there had been costs, they'd have been disowned by the army and the military reaction force. Their job in 1971 in the north of Ireland was to literally behave like terrorists. To give you some examples that the military reaction force. There were British army lads in plainclothes. They'd get into a car with a machine gun. And drive around a Catholic civilian area in Belfast or in Derry. And they would do drive by shootings and kill random civilians, civilians with families these days are not not people in the IRA.

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Members of the British army would wear plain clothes and to drive by shootings on random civilians in Catholic areas and kill them and murder them. And this isn't conspiracy, this is a fact, the military reaction force, you can look this up, BBC Panorama did a documentary on them a couple of years back. So this is fact. It is. It is a fact that the British army had a secret. Units who used to dress up in plain clothes and murder random civilians.

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OK. Irish people listening to this are going to be shocked, I don't know what the fuck the British listeners are thinking, but this is real. They wouldn't just shoot and murder random civilians. They they were involved in the bombing of a pub in 1971, the Uvda Ulster Volunteer Force bombed the pub called Magnox that was frequented by Catholic people. Seventeen people were injured in the bombing. The military reaction force of the British army were heavily involved in helping the move to blow up a pub.

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And to target and kill civilians. Now, this is our early days in what we call the troubles that the provisional IRA was set up in 1969. So by 1971, they were quite a young organization. And this is this is before Bloody Sunday in the Bogside in Derry, which was 1972. If you don't know, Bloody Sunday was what Catholic people were marching for their civil rights. And British soldiers, I believe there were paratroopers, that these are soldiers in full military uniform.

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They. They shot 13, they think they shot 14 people, killed them, dead 14 innocent people are quite publicly. A lot of people know Bloody Sunday, Bloody Sunday was a lot. A lot of young people in the north of Ireland joined the provisional IRA after 1972, having witnessed the atrocity of Bloody Sunday. But before Bloody Sunday, the Provisional IRA, they didn't have a huge amount of members and there were quite a young organisation. So why then in the summer of 1971, do you have a secret unit of the British army, the military reaction force, a secret plainclothes unit killing random civilians?

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Why? Why is that the case when the IRA, the Provisional IRA, aren't even acting as such by 1971? It's only a few, a small amount of members, even this UN in June of 1972. The Provisional IRA, we're going to have secret talks with the British government. Around a cease fire right in June of 1972, the provisional IRA were actually the and this is before that the huge amount of the troubles kicked off. This is before any of the massive bombings all through the 70s and bombings in mainland Britain.

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So on June 1972. The IRA were ready to sit down with the British government for secret talks, and they announced a cease fire. And on that day, the military reaction force, who were the plainclothes British army officers on that day, the military reaction force did a drive by shooting on some innocent, unarmed Catholic civilians at a bus stop. So why are the British army in 1971 creating a covert. Eunice, whereby they're wearing plain clothes and killing civilians, what the.

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What the fuck is that about? And the members themselves. Said that if they were ever costs, even by the police in the north of Ireland, if they were caught, the British army would disown them, they would disown them. What the fuck is that about? Basically, the British army were pretending to be. Either the you've or the UDR, the the British army, were pretending to be Protestant gangs who were shooting random unarmed civilians in Catholic areas.

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To create a sectarian war now, why the fuck would they want that? Why would the British army want the sectarian civil war? But quite simple is it means the people in the goal of the provisional IRA was to achieve a united Ireland for Britain to leave the north of Ireland, for the north of Ireland, to no longer be under British control, which meant that the IRA. Their if their target was the British forces are politically the British government and by the British army shooting up civilians.

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What that does is it creates sectarian war that the Aymara were told to behave like terrorists, to commit actual acts of terror and. It is what it does, is it it was trying to force the IRA to retaliate in a sectarian fashion and to then begin shooting off Protestant areas and murdering Protestant civilians to create chaos. All of a sudden, no one's talking about the British army anymore, and then what the British army hoped to create was get the Catholics and Protestants are the nationalists and the unionists, get them killing each other, create a civil war.

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Why would you want to do that? It creates chaos, it creates uncertainty, but most importantly, from the British government perspective, it creates the the optics of an unsolvable problem and then it makes the British army look like peacekeepers. It creates the narrative that charges us. Northern Ireland is mad. All they're doing is killing each other. So if a reasonable person in 1971 in the Republic of Ireland, in the north, in England and Scotland, if a reasonable person in 1971 was to say what why is Britain in the north of Ireland, why can't Britain leave the north of Ireland if there's that much shit going on?

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Well, when you have sectarian civil war now, a reasonable person. Can't really ask that question because the answer is, how could we leave if we left, there would be chaos. We must stay to maintain peace. It completely shifts and changes the narrative. And the thing is that if you look at some of the British media propaganda from the time and that the really sad thing is. It worked. Look at the British media cartoons and propaganda from the 1970s and what they show is.

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Depicting the unionists and the nationalists, right? Catholic and Protestants still depicting them both as apelike Irish caricatures, hurling rocks at each other with a paratrooper in the middle trying to maintain peace. But they effectively. Unionist people in in in the arts identify as British and the Catholics were identifying as Irish, but the British press was just portraying everybody as. Bug, bug, fuckin monkey padi crosseyed makes even the unionist's, the British press was gone. They're all just fucking uncontrollable MCs who won't stop killing each other.

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And now we have to send in the paratroopers to maintain peace. And it creates a narrative that now the problem isn't British occupation, it's sectarian civil war. And Britain must remain in order to maintain peace. Now, I'm not suggesting that sectarianism wasn't the thing. Sectarianism was it was a huge problem. But the British army were like, how can we make it way, way worse, how can we make sectarianism? How can we start a civil war?

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How can we start a civil fucking war where they're killing each other? And this this isn't conspiracy. This is real. Like, this is the third time I've said this because it's so absurd, because you're conditioned to think that's all. But there aren't the British army, the good ones, they're an army that's the army of a state. And they must obey rules and they obey the rules of the Geneva Convention. They would never dress up in plain clothes and murder civilians.

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Yes, they did. The British fuckin army did that. The British army paid for by the taxpayer of Britain. They did that covertly. That's a thing that happened. And and this fact that I'm saying this isn't even the mad part of this podcast. This is that this is the the least shocking bit that I'm trying to put in to set up the the much more ridiculous things that I'm about to link it up with. So how does all this happen?

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This happens because a very senior British officer in the north of Ireland from 1970 to 1972 was a fellow by the name of brigadier friend Frank Kitsune. OK, Brigadier Frank Kitsune and Frank Kittson, who farmed the military action force. It was his brainchild. It was his idea. And Frank Kitsune made his name in Kenya. In the 50s, right during the Mao Mao rebellions, Kenya is a former British colony in the 1950s in Kenya. Kenya wanted independence from Britain.

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So a group formed called the Momoh who were Kenyan rebels, a little bit like the IRA who wanted independence. And Frank Kittson was in the British army at the time in a position of power. Now, I did a podcast on the Momar Rebellion a few a few weeks back. In the Mormile rebellions in Kenya, Britain established massive concentration camps, huge concentration camps for thousands died. Barack Obama's grandfather was one of the one of the people in these concentration camps.

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He was sexually tortured by British soldiers for years. The British did some very fucked up things in Kenya, but Frank Kittson was in the British army in Kenya and he kind of saw the the the theory of let's get the British army to behave like terrorists and to kill civilians and wear plain clothes. He developed these theories while in Kenya. He did this against the Malmo in Kenya, and he wrote a book on it in 1960, which I've been reading, called Gangs and Counter Gangs.

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He wrote another book in 1971 called Low Intensity Operations about Northern Ireland. But Frank Kitson basically wrote this book called Gangs and Counter Gangs, which was, if you're a colonial power or any power and you have a rebellion, well, here is how you in a very illegal way take the rebellion down. If you have one group who want independence delegitimized, their call for independence by inventing a fake gang or a pseudo gang, as he called it, to engage in open warfare with them and draw them out and delegitimize them and destabilise them.

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Frank Kittson invented this way of counterinsurgency because now Frank Kittson invented this 19, 1960, based on his experiences with the Momoh, and he wrote the book Gangs and Counter Gangs, which went on to be hugely influential with the British army and also in America. It's it's a way for, quote unquote, democracy to behave illegally to to to murder and kill civilians while doing it all covertly. And so I've been I've been reading Frank since books. I've been reading gangs and counter gangs.

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And then I've been looking up. You know, how influential was this book, this 1960 book, who read it, who took it on board? And it turns out it was of huge interest and started heavily by the FBI and CIA and in particular, they used Kitchen's methods to try and take down the Black Panthers. The Black Panthers were an organization founded in in 1965 or 66 in San Francisco by members of the African-American community as a way to defend their community against police brutality.

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And the Black Panthers basically said, we are American citizens. We have a Second Amendment right to bear arms. We consider the police to be a brutal force. So we're going to arm ourselves and patrol our own community to keep the black community safe from the brutality of police. That was the Black Panther organization. But they were also a political organization. They were antifascist. They were anti-racist, anticapitalist. They were they were socialist. The Black Panthers weren't just.

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Doing patrols with guns, but they were they were offering they were setting up free breakfast programs for kids living in poverty. They were educating the black community about capitalism, about how capitalism is an oppressive structure.

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About educating the black community about how they could be freed through socialism and the Black Panthers were seen as a huge threat to the American hegemony by the likes of the FBI, they were the FBI were particularly worried about middle class white people having a favorable view of the Black Panthers viewing the Black Panthers as being legitimate, view their struggle as legitimate, viewing their calls for equality as being legitimate, that the FBI did not want the white voter base to legitimize the Black Panthers.

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So the FBI. Investigated. Among among other things, Frank Kitsune methods, his book, Gangs and Counter Gangs, and set about trying to dismantle the Black Panthers in a very similar way to how the military reaction force tried to dismantle the IRA in the north of Ireland. Now, again, are you thinking playing by is this conspiracy theory? It's not because I have here a New York Times, The New York Fucking Times, which is a legitimate newspaper.

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I found an article from May 8th, 1976, which clearly states the Federal Federal Bureau of Investigation carried out a secret nationwide effort to destroy the Black Panthers, including attempts to start a bloody gang warfare between the Panthers and other groups and to create factional splits within the party, according to the staff report of the Senate Select Committee of Intelligence Activities, the bureau's efforts, part of the COINTELPRO, our counterintelligence program, contributed to a climate of violence in which four Black Panthers were shot to death.

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The report says. So the FBI had this. They had a program called COINTELPRO, and this was it was a way to take down left wing organizations, but in particular black nationalist organizations in the US. And the article goes on to say that, like they tried to start divisions between Eldridge Cleaver and Huey Newton, and they also they started that gang warfare between in Chicago, between the Black Panthers and a street gang, an armed street gang called the Blackstone Rangers.

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So they did this article. I'm reading the New York Times article. It's 1976, the majority of the actions, the COINTELPRO FBI program happened in the 1960s. And this is the reason this report is from 1976, is that there was a thing called the. What the fuck was it called, the select committee, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Services. On I get it right. That's right. So it was the US Senate and a committee to investigate and hold to account the likes of the FBI and the CIA to try and see what they were getting up to.

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And some of the findings are fucking mad. And it says here the report portrays a campaign in which the bureau used a legion of informers, sometimes as provocateurs and close cooperation with local police and eradicate squads to sow confusion, fear and dissension among the Panthers cartoons attacking them purportedly from rival groups were distributed to aggravate antagonisms. Stories were planted in newspapers and television outlets to put the Panthers and their supporters in a bad light. Bogus messages were sent to cause rifts between the party and white leftist supporters.

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And that was a big thing to portray the Panthers as being violent and out to portray them as if white leftists are middle class. White groups were supporting the Black Panthers. The FBI basically would fake notes that suggested that the Panthers considered all white people to be evil. And when the Panthers got their goal, they would murder all white people. And the FBI wanted white groups to believe this about the Panthers. So they created all these fake notes and fake memos and all this stuff to solve this dissent and to create distrust and this FBI.

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This this program was known as COINTELPRO, and this report on it said it would be intolerable in a democratic society even if all the targets had been involved in violent activity. But COINTELPRO went far beyond that. The unexpressed major premise of the programs was that a law enforcement agency has the duty to do whatever is necessary to combat perceived threats to the existing social and political order. So what does that sound similar to? The shit that Frank Kittson was doing in 1971 in the north of Ireland, a lot of these actions, the COINTELPRO actions by the FBI were happening in from about 1966 onwards.

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Frank Kittson wrote his book Gangs and Counter Gangs, which was a publicly available a manual for intelligence services and for the military about how to dismantle. And how to dismantle groups that are looking for independence or sovereignty. And what what what's happening with the military reaction force in the north of Ireland and what the FBI are doing to the Black Panthers, it's the exact same shit. It's the exact same shit if if the Black Panthers are looking, are asking for civil rights and are trying their best to say, look, we want civil rights, we want to defend our community from violence, these are we want to give free lunches and free breakfast to children.

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Our demands are reasonable. Right. The FBI was like, fuck all those demands sound really, really reasonable. We can't have middle class white people with voting power agreeing with the Black Panthers. We better fuck it up. How do we do it? Let's get this street gang fighting with them. Let's arm the street gang and get them shooting. The Black Panthers or the Black Panthers have to shoot back. Let's make white people think that the Black Panthers want to murder and kill them.

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And it was deliberate. And this isn't conspiracy. This isn't fucking conspiracy. You can look it up, COINTELPRO. I'm reading The New York Times, 1976, May eight. At one thing that sticks out for me from this article, too, just because of the days is it says the Panthers became the primary focus of the black nationalist hate groups, quote unquote section of COINTELPRO by July 1969 and were the targets of two hundred and thirty three of the two hundred ninety five actions authorized against black groups, the report says.

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So what happened in 1969? So what I'm establishing there is this Frank Kitchen chap who'd been in Kenya and wrote the book Gangs and Counter Gangs 1960. It was being implemented not only by Kittson himself by 1971 in the north of Ireland, but studied and implemented by the FBI in America against the Black Panthers. And you can go on you can this is this isn't there it's not a conspiracy or a secret to suggest that the FBI and the CIA were raiding frank kitchens work because they were.

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This was available to intelligence services, this was a publicly available book, and it was foreign intelligence services and fired the military because most importantly, too, you have to look at when this is happening. All right. The 60s and the 70s and. It's within the backdrop of the fog and Cold War, a much larger ideological battle where Britain and the US are, you know, hugely powerful forces on the western block against the Soviets. And there was an ideological war going on whereby the West had to basically suggest we are free, we are democratic, and in the West we have egalitarianism.

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Everyone is equal, everyone is free. You're free from oppression. You can say what you want. But over in the east, the Soviets, you don't have any freedom of speech. There's secret police. If you if you if you talk shit about the government, the secret fucking police will come in and they'll arrest you and send it to the fucking gulag. So the narrative was in the West, we are free, we are free and we have democracy.

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But the Soviet alternative, this communism, this socialism shit, you don't have any freedom there. But like like in the Soviet states, they had like the Stazi and these these secret police forces that would that, you know, that would actively and publicly oppress people. But this is the same fucking shit. LED's in the north of fucking Ireland in the 70s, the British army would dress up in jeans, in jeans and leather jackets and murdering civilians.

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Murdering people who were technically British citizens. That's fucking insanely repressive in America that you've got the FBI, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, start gang warfare against its own citizens. That's huge, that's massively, massively repressive. All right, but the thing is. It needs to be highly covert because then it goes against the larger narrative of we are in the West and we have democracy and we have freedom. So you get this snake fucking cunt, Frank Kittson, with his going, we you know what, in order to maintain power, we actually do have to be very oppressive and very violent.

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But we need to do it in a really sneaky way. And here's how it's my book called Gangs and Counter Gangs. This is how you do it. So that's the middle class who have voting power they think are the Black Panthers. So there's nothing you can do with them. They're just violent, violent, violent black people, savages in the ghettos. Look at them. They're fighting with a street gang. I like them when they were given free meals to people and their their, you know, their request to not be brutalized by police.

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This sounded reasonable. But now they're fighting with street gangs, men. I don't think I support the Black Panthers anymore. Ah, then you've got someone living in London gone. The IRA. They want they want freedom from the British government. All the Catholics want civil rights. Is it. But they're are shooting each other, aren't they? The Catholics. And they're in a civil war. I guess we should send the British army there to keep peace because there are savages.

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And that's what this does, it's it's it's full of people, so I'm about to get way more bizarre. Right, and everything I've mentioned up to this point, this this was at one point that was conspiracy, but it's not because you can look it up. So it's not conspiracy. It was at one point conspiracy. But this isn't this is when I talk about conspiracy theory. This is evidence based conspiracy theory, even though it was once conspiracy.

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And you think of the hippie movement as just, you know, a lot of people with flowers in their hair smoking hash, it was that boss. The hapy movement was a genuine attempt. Four young people, mainly white, middle class young people, to try a different way of living other than capitalism, hippies formed communes, hippies were antiracist, hippies were anti imperial, you know what I mean? It was 1960s was a weird time like you also had.

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It was the height of the fucking Cold War. You had the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, which is the closest the world ever came to All-Out Nuclear War. You had the Vietnam War, which was a proxy war between America and Russia and Vietnam. You had the anti-war movement. The president of America, John F. Kennedy, was assassinated, you know, and people were becoming very familiar with real violence on their television screens, too. They were seeing the blood and violence of the Vietnam War played out in traumatic fashion on the news every night, which was a first for humanity and left wing groups at left wing ideology.

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Anti imperialist and anticapitalist ideology was seriously gaining traction in America, particularly the West Coast in the 60s. And this was a huge ideological threat to the powers that be in America. And it's why the FBI had a program called COINTELPRO, which was a deliberate attempt to dismantle use using the techniques of Frank Kittson to dismantle groups like the Black Panthers and other left wing groups. One instant that is seen as the the pain in the balloon of the 60s hippie hippie Summer of Love San Francisco movement.

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One thing that's really seen as the the dark end to it all is the 1969. Charles Manson murders the Manson family murders, basically Sharon Tate, who was a famous Hollywood actor and three of her friends were incredibly brutally murdered in their home in 1969. And it was it shook the world and they were murdered by the Manson family who were. A hippie commune slash cult led by a fellow called Charles Manson, and everyone knows Charles Manson. You know, everyone has an idea of what I'm talking about, but it really shook America and what people saw was hippies, drugs, murder, and they murdered a famous, beautiful blonde, pregnant, blonde, white woman and her friends in the safety of their homes in the Hollywood Hills.

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It was utterly shocking. And it it wasn't just the murder of people. It attacked. Middle class white American values to the core and immediately ended the summer of love, darkness fell upon the summer of love at that moment. Now, when when, like Manson and the family were put to trial and interviewed and asked about the the motives of. You know what, why, why, why did this happen, how how did this hippie commune slash cult?

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Full of middle class white runaways. How did they end up? Brutally murdering an actor and a pregnant actor and her family in her home and stabbing him multiple times and doing really weird shit with their blood and really creating a scene. When they were asked why it happened, the official narrative was that Charles Manson, who was the leader of this family, who they saw as like they saw him as Christ, and he was like a guru when he was your archetypal hippie with the long hair.

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When asked why, the official narrative was that Charles Manson? Had a plan called Helter Skelter that he had listened to a Beatles song called Helter Skelter had derived hidden messages in the lyrics and basically that the Manson murders Charles Manson was trying to start a race war when Sharon Tate and her friends were murdered, the women who killed her, they put the word pig. They scrawled the word pig on the door with her blood.

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And pig was a term that was used by the Black Panthers to refer to the police. So the official narrative is that the Manson family were trying to frame the Black Panthers to start a race war. And that's Charles Manson and the family would then disappear into a bunker in the desert that the 28th the Tate Sharon Tate murders will be so horrific that the eyes of white America, if they thought that the Black Panthers would go to the Hollywood Hills and chop up white people, that this would start a race war, the Manson family would hide, the entire planet would erupt in a in a race war where everybody would kill each other.

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And then finally the Manson family would emerge and repopulate the earth with perfect human beings. And this plan was called Helter Skelter. And that's the official narrative that was given to the public. And that that completely ended happies. It ended the summer of love. All of a sudden, the average American could no longer look at hippies or San Francisco as these harmless people who just wanted to smoke a bit of hash and have free love. Now, they were utterly deranged, psychotic murderers who will get into your house and kill you into the safety of your home and they will chop your body up.

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What's really interesting about Charles Manson is that. Now, I don't think Charles Manson did any of the killings himself. I think there was one he was involved in, but he told that his family is his cult, his group of women or whatever, to do the killings. But the thing with Charles Manson is. He had a very troubled childhood, right? He didn't have a lot of love. There was abuse. He spent the vast majority of his childhood in prison.

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And Charles Manson writes. Exited prison, federal prison in 1967, and he wasn't happy, he wasn't a hippie, he had short hair and he was just. He was just a petty criminal, and then in 67, he went to Haight Ashbury, which was the center, the Summer of Love in San Francisco started taking LSD, and that's when he started changing his complete view on life, his view of himself growing long hair, becoming a hippie and amassing this family.

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All of a sudden, he had this ability to influence middle class white runaway girls and convince them to follow him and worship him as this type of Christ like figure. And he starts to hang around this place in the head. Ashbury, which is known as the Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic and the Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic, was.

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It is what it sounds like, it was free medical assistance to hippies, basically hippies were encouraged to come to this free medical clinic. And because hippies, they wouldn't have been working. They've been hanging around that have been communal living or dumpster diving for food. They would come to the Haight Ashbury free medical clinic and get dental work are a lot of them like Manson. So Manson and his girls, his family in 67, would frequently go to the Haight Ashbury free medical clinic for term terminal, terminating pregnancies and also treatment STDs because they were all riding like mad and getting treatment for STDs.

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Now, what was the Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic and who was running it? It was being run by a fella called Dave Smith, who at the time was one of the foremost researchers in the world on the effects of psychedelic drugs, in particular LSD on the human mind. So you've got this fellow called Dr. Dave Smith who is researching LSD. And then there was another fellow there who was heavily involved in running the clinic by the name of Roger Roger Smith.

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And Roger Smith was also investigating LSD, its impact on humans, and also investigating how he was involved in a thing called the Amphetamine Research Project, which was investigating. What speed does the humans know? Who was Roger Smith? This fella involved with the free medical clinic who is investigating who's doing research on drugs and their impact on humans. He was Charles Manson's parole officer. So Charles Manson's parole officer. And a parole officer is the person that once you get out of federal prison, a parole officer is the person who you kind of visit and you see and then they make sure that like, you know, you're not committing crimes.

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And if you are committing crimes, your parole officer is the one who decides that you go back to jail. Well, Charles Manson's parole officer, Roger Smith, who was also. Investigating amphetamines and their effect on human beings and research on LSD, along with this fellow Dave Smith, they're not related, but there were two Smiths. He was the one who told Charles Manson when he got out of prison to say to him, you know, I watch Charlie.

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I'm a parole officer. I think you should go to San Francisco. You should go to the Haight Ashbury. And you should go to the Haight Ashbury and get some of that free love and the vibes down there. I think it would chill you out. You really enjoy it. So he did. So Charles Manson, which was was visiting the Head Ashbury Free Medical Center. What the two lads raunchiness are studying LSD and amphetamines and their impact on human beings and Charles Manson starts all of a sudden turn into this girl who's recruiting all these vulnerable women into his group and actively as well.

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Charles Manson was using LSD. To initiate people into the Manson family, to change the way of thinking about themselves, the way their way of thinking about the world, to initiate them into a cult using LSD. And his fuckin parole officer is a researcher in LSD and amphetamines, and he's working with a fella called David Smith who's running the free medical center and bought these people's research is focusing on. LSD. Its effect on human beings, whether it can be used to control human beings.

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It's all sound and a bit strange. Now, what makes it even more fucking strange is. Like the research that the David Smith fellow was doing into LSD and the research that Roger Schmidt was doing into the amphetamines, they were funded by the National Institute of Mental Health. Which was found out later to have been partly funded by the CIA specifically for LSD research, because the CIA had been researching the effects of LSD, gone back to the late 1940s with a project known as MK Ultra.

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All right. Again, that's not conspiracy. M.K. Ultra was real. The CIA were very interested in how substances like LSD could be used as a truth serum, ah, as a way to control populations or to control people's behavior. And specifically, the CIA were interested in how can LSD or can it be used to make someone an assassin? OK. That was conspiracy, if you want to look up in Colorado, that's a real thing. The CIA were doing this.

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They were funding the National Institute for Mental Health now. So now we have the CIA funding the National Institute for Mental Health as effectively funding the LSD research of David Smith and Roger Smith, who's fucking Charles Manson's parole officer. And it's all being run out now of this Haight Ashbury free medical clinic where all the hippies are going in and out of. And on top of this, as I mentioned earlier, you had the FBI program called COINTELPRO, which was inspired by Frank Kittson, which was the attempt to infiltrate left wing groups like the Black Panthers.

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You also had the CIA at the same time who had a parallel program known as Project Chaos, which was the CIA's attempt to infiltrate left wing groups, the Black Panthers hippies, to sew seeds of dissent and create chaos. And what starts to become very fucked up is so David Smith, who's doing LSD research and is running the Haight Ashbury free medical clinic that Charles Manson has started to frequent and his behavior has changed. And all of a sudden he's learned how to recruit people using LSD and it's become a new character.

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David Smit's LSD research is a continuation on from earlier research done by a fellow called Calhoun. Now, Calhoon Calhoun wasn't using LSD, but Calhoun was studying the behavior of rats in confined environments. Calhoun was studying rats as a model for societal collapse. So Calhoon in the late 50s, early 60s, what he was doing is he was getting rats and overcrowding them and studying what happens to the behavior of rats when they're incredibly stressed and overcrowded. And what he found, that when you overcrowd rats, OK, a dominant male rat emerges right in what's known as a behavioral sink.

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OK, and what this male rat does is that he subjugates other males into a tribe of like followers and then organize female rats into a harem of sex slaves. So rats that are overcrowded because rats as a social group are actually quite similar to humans. And when rats are overcrowded, what is Calhoon Phala found out is that you would have one dominant male, these older males cowering and following and then sex slave female rats, but also. Certain rats who all of a sudden.

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Become a psychopathic, violent for no reason, rats that would attack other rats in their sleep and rip their bodies apart for no reason whatsoever. Now, this was the research the Calhoon was doing in the 60s and David Smith was doing the LSD research in the Haight Ashbury Medical Clinic is doing a continuation of Calhoun's research, but with LSD. And it's just really fucking strange, it's really fucking strange that. The research done on the rats. And how they would form this group, what a central leader and all these women and then this psychotic and what David Smith was doing was trying to recreate Calhoun's rats and the behavior of Sink.

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But seeing what would happen if you add LSD and amphetamines to the rats, what would happen? It's just strange that the Manson family group resembles so closely. The rats in Calhoun study that you have Charles Manson as the center rat surrounded by a harem of women and a few men who follow Manson, and then it ends with bloody murder. That can't be explained in a very brutal fashion. I just find that are really, really fucking weird. That the Manson family are so closely associated with.

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A free medical clinic that you can trace to. Covert CIA funding into LSD and amphetamines, and it's a study in human behavior and how it can be used to control behavior and that Manson's parole officer was one of the lads doing the study. It just seems really fucking weird now. This is the part of the podcast. You know, I can talk about the frank kids and shit with the IRA, the deliberate attempt to create a sense of chaos.

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I can talk about all that and I can go right. The evidence is there. This stuff. This is all connected things. It is, this is a fact. It is a fact that Charles Manson at PharmD, his family out of this free medical clinic, it is a fact that his parole officer was studying the influence of LSD and human behavior and the person who ran the clinic was doing the same thing. It's a fact that you can connect the LSD research to something that was funded by the CIA.

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It is a fact that the CIA were. We're actively studying the influence of LSD and human behavior. It's a fact that the CIA had a thing called Project Chaos, where they were deliberately trying to infiltrate hippie groups and hippie condoms and left wing groups. It's a fact that the FBI had a thing called COINTELPRO at the same time, which was designed to infiltrate the Black Panthers. And then it all culminates with Charles Manson's family doing this real high profile murder on celebrities, trying to blame it on the fucking Black Panthers.

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It just all sounds really fun and there's a lot of dots there that really closely connect, and I find that fucking fascinating and it's just.

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Taken it back to that that that New York Times article from 1976, which was, you know, the Senate committee on the operations of the FBI and the CIA against the Black Panthers, it's straight. Upstate's the Panthers became the primary focus of the Black Nationalist Hate Group section of COINTELPRO, but yellow July 1969 and were the target of 233 of 295 actions authorized against black groups. The report says July 1969. The Manson murders were August 1969. The Manson murders, which were designed to frame the Black Panthers, they wrote Big on the door.

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The family themselves said. What were you trying to do? We were trying to start a race war. We were trying to frame the Black Panthers. But the thing is, is that it was written off as crazy hippies, Charles Manson listen to the Beatles lyrics and had this crazy idea to frame the Black Panthers. So where's the heartache? Let's look at things that we know are true. The CIA had a program called Project Chaos. Project Chaos happening around San Francisco and in Los Angeles, was deliberately designed to infiltrate left wing groups and hippies and black nationalists to sow chaos.

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Right. That was the CIA. M.K. Ultra, again, this is a fact, was a CIA program to study the use of LSD in particular on controlling the behavior of human beings and to create assassins. COINTELPRO was an FBI program happening at the exact same time, inspired by Frank Kittson to illegally saw dissent and to create LA and to start fights and to start warfare against are between the Black Panthers. Charles Manson is with his family attending a fuckin a free medical clinic that we can show is run by two LSD researchers who you can trace their research to CIA funding.

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And one of them is Charles Manson's fuckin parole officer. And then Charles Manson and the family do a killing where they straight up say we were trying to pin it on the Black Panthers. That's a lot of dots, and I can't prove that they're connected, that a lot of dots that look similar to what I mean. And is it that's absurd to suggest. If if the work of Frank Frank Kittson is used straight up, you can prove that the British military were shooting civilians in Belfast in 1971 and you can straight up prove that the work of Frank Kittson was being used by COINTELPRO and the FBI to get the Black Panthers fighting with gangs, armed warfare, which resulted in death.

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Also, what weren't known one week after the Manson murders, the murders of Sharon Tate, the Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic, all of Roger Smith's research write his research papers on the use of LSD and amphetamines and control and behavior. A week after the Manson murders, the Haight Ashbury Free Medical Clinic was burgled and what was taken was his research. That's a fact. Like, what the fuck is that? So also, let's look at what what were the consequences of the Manson murders?

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The consequences of the Manson murders is it ended the summer of love. Hippies became dangerous. Hippies were no longer harmless. White kids who wanted free love and believed in a fairer society and wanted to end the Vietnam War. Now, hippies were deranged, drug addled murderers who will come into your home and chop you up to bits.

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This this was the goal of Project Chaos. It was the goal of COINTELPRO. It's straight out of the fucking Frank Kittson rule book. You know, it they didn't succeed in pinning on the Black Panthers, but it succeeded in making hippies look unreasonable on followable and dangerous. It worked. Is it really that absurd to suggest? The LSD and the mind control. I don't know, lads, but I find it fucking fascinating, I find it fascinating and it's a hot take that that's been brewing in me now for about two fucking months.

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And now it's out of my system. Now it's out of my system. All right. And nothing I've said there tonight is isn't true. Not. It's all you can look it on up. But what I'm saying is at the end there, the connect the dots are not going to connect those dots. I'm going to leave those dots there because I can't connect them. And a huge amount of all the frank kids and stuff I did myself, I tried when I reached out to try and get as much newspaper reports from the time original sources like Frank Kitchens, fucking PDF of gangs and counter gangs, huge amount of romance and stuff there.

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I got to give credit to a journalist called Tom O'Neil. Tom O'Neil wrote a book called Chaos Charles Manson, The CIA and the Secret History of the 60S. And Tom O'Neil is a journalist who spent 20 years of his life. Investigating all that shit about Manson at the free medical clinic, about his parole officer and the LSD, if you found that part interesting, read the book Chaos by Tom O'Neil, because it's fucking fascinating. It goes into that stuff in great detail.

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