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This episode, we have my good friend, Mr. Joe Buck, son of Hall of Fame, Jack Buck, really kind of announcer announcing royalty, if you may.

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He's just a great guy, very talented, gets a lot of shit.

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And I don't know why, because he is dynamiter, what he does.

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And he gave us some great insight on what he thought about Tim McCarver, Mariano Rivera, his dad.

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And you'll hear a story where he almost ended my career.

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Yes. Yes, he Joe Buck.

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So Joe Buck, I have become good friends of Joe Buck. I actually the first time we interviewed him, he told us that part of the way he loosens up when he's at a baseball game is he sips on a beer.

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He probably announces when he's like taking out the garbage and being like, here comes Joe Buck down the driveway. What a masterful job that, you know, I love his voice.

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And damn, I hear his voice. And McCarver, for that matter, it just it was synonymous with a big moment.

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A big game. Yes. Perhaps a World Series.

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But I to me, Joe Buck and the like career arc he's had, it's fascinating because, like you said, a lot of people have given him shit.

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A lot of people have hated on him. But it feels like the public conscience has kind of turned and turned back in his favor. And people love Joe Buck again. Well, he's so talented.

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I mean, they say if you hang around long enough, people start forgetting the bad energy and the hate.

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And he's kind of get into his territory. He's like, oh, shit, this is not about Jack Buck, right? Joe Buck is a legend and he's done about 25 World Series. He's done a bunch of Super Bowls, PGA, you name it. And again, he has that great voice. And here's the greatest compliment I can say about Joe Buck is even if the game is average, I will still tune in to listen to his insight.

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Yes.

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And have you talking to Joe Buck, have you had that moment where you realize when you're announcing a game what you've been doing for Sunday night baseball for a couple of years now? Have you had that moment where you realize, like, no matter what I say, there will be people who hate what I say, even if it's just completely innocuous, like it doesn't really matter. People just listen and half of the audience is just going to hate you no matter what.

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Yes. Well, I've been I've known that for now. Yeah. About two and a half decades. Right.

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But, you know, the greatest thing about me and like Twitter and stuff is people can say all the nasty things. I don't know how to get into Twitter. So, yes, that's true.

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Tweet a little bit and but I respond.

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It's a whole thing. So you're tweeting it. A-Rod saying things. He is not seeing it. I know that for a fact. So you're just yelling into a brick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Instagram you're on. But Twitter. Yeah. I can back you up.

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My nephew Nick here, who's with me, you know, he's, he's telling me, you know, Tiel, which is Uncle Theo, they're ripping you in a tweet.

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I said, yes, we need Nick to like set up a booklet of just the positive tweets every day and just deliver that to you.

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All right. Well, here we go. The great Joe Buck. You're listening to the court presented by barstool sports. OK, we now welcome on an episode of The Kaup, one of our good friends, both of our good friends.

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He's been on part of my take many, many times. He's worked with you, Alex.

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It is Joe Buck, legend of the game. Great to have you, Joe. I feel like you've been doing a bunch of podcasts. It's good to finally get you on the Kaup. You have a podcast of your own. You're a multimedia star. But just like all of us, you're stuck inside and it's looking like it's taking its toll on your hair.

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Yeah, it's gone. It's gone. The other day I just shaved it off. We had clippers that we were clipping one of my two sons hair.

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It was just it just looked way too mullet ish. And I said, why not? I got nothing to be on TV for.

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I got, you know, this podcast, what do I care what I look like in front of Big Cat?

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And so I just shaved it off and screw it.

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I'm married. I'm happy we've got kids. We're done with all that. I'm not trying to impress anybody. Let's just knock it off.

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Go tell us what you know in the middle of covid-19 in these very challenging times. What does a day like look for Mr. Joe Buck?

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Well, let me just tell you, Monday looks a lot like Tuesday, looks a lot like Wednesday, looks a lot like whatever.

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Get up at six o'clock, which I've never had to do, I don't think ever in my life until these two boys came into the world and now they just refuse to let Michelle and me sleep. So six o'clock and then just kind of kill time. Not least the weather's better in St. Louis. So I can go outside with them. We can play on the swings, learning how to kind of ride bikes where they do it with their feet and kind of walk alongside it.

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But it's all about getting to different benchmarks in the day.

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It's wake up until lunch, which happens at noon. Nap is at twelve thirty. They wake back up at, let's say two, sometimes one thirty, sometimes five minutes after I put them down.

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And then it's just killing time until they go to bed after a bath at about six to go to bed at seven. So what you want to do now, otherwise I do podcast, I do everybody's friggin podcast, I ask people and then I have to go back and pay back. Payback's a bitch.

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Yeah, you just described my day, except I'm still in the tsunami zone, so I have that luxury. It's still two naps, but it's like I say all the time, it's just that we're running out the clock.

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We're we're we're running the ball on third and long to keep the clock moving at all times.

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And any idea of limiting screen time? I get it. You know, they shouldn't be television dependent. Got it.

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They should be all be baby geniuses and that's dumbing them down. But I'm here to tell you, if they will sit there and watch something, I'll leave it on all day.

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I don't care.

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The I just it just dawned on me and I'm curious this is there a way are you worried at all that you are going to get out of practice? Because this is a pretty long stretch that you're going to do nothing. I know out usually the spring is your lighter season, but is there any worry that, like, how do I stay sharp? How do I keep my mind sharp? No, none. None. So there's no practicing. You're not narrating yourself in the mirror in the morning?

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Nothing.

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No, I do that. But that's not in the category of practice. I mean, that's I mean, that doesn't have anything to do with 20/20 that that's every day of my life.

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So how long could this go on for before you're like, you know what? Maybe I need to just do a simulated game, whatever it may be, to keep yourself sharp and in game shape?

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Well, I just turned fifty one. I would have to last until I'm eighty. I'm not saying it's easy, but I've I've either been to seats to the right of my dad or sitting behind a microphone since I was I was doing minor league baseball at 19.

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There's pretty much I could fake my way through anything.

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I'm not saying, you know, I would have all the details and everything, but I could call I mean, which was, I guess, the point of me calling all these videos that people sent me on Twitter that it doesn't matter what the intensity is of the competition, I can just put my eyes and mind to it.

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And whatever comes out comes out. Yeah.

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Know let me back up, Kat, here, because I'm really intrigued with this show. I mean, 1989, you with, you know, triple-A with the Redbirds in Louisville, 94. You're the youngest announcer ever to do an NFL game on the NFL Network. And then in 1996, you do your first World Series. How old are you in 96 and how nervous are you? Because it was a big one in New York.

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Twenty seven. Yeah, it was huge because it was the Yankees return to greatness.

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I mean, I think, you know, for people of a certain age, they just assume the Yankees have been great since day one of the American League in that there have been peaks and valleys in that had there had been a large chunk of time there, 95, they were they got 95 ended in, I guess, 94.

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They were decent, but there was no postseason, 95 you in the sea and the Seattle Mariners eliminated him.

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It was that a one game or five games.

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That was five games when Grif when Edgar hit the double of Jack McDow and Griffey rounded third like a thoroughbred and sled at home. And we walked off. Right.

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So OK. So I mean in the Mariners were great obviously back then too. But but this was 96 was the first year I was 27. Jeter was a rookie who knew how great Rivera was going to be, wasn't even the closer John Wetland was. And it was kind of the rebirth of the Yankees.

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And yeah, I was scared out of my mind.

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Game one was rained out and I remember sitting there and I had procrastinated so long getting ready for the actual game of getting my notes down and the lineups and all the numbers. I wanted that at the end I was like, oh my God, we've got like half an hour here and I'm nowhere near finished.

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And the rage is the rain wouldn't stop.

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And they called it and we got to pick back up. The next day was game one. And that kind of calmed me down. I just I had an extra day to kind of sleep on it. And by the time I got to the park, I was pretty relaxed. And then you just start doing it.

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And like anything else, once the game starts, you just go do what you know how to do and and you get through it.

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But I was I was nervous. I was frightened of being exposed on a big stage.

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Have you ever done a top for Mount Rushmore of baseball series that you called? I'd be interested to know maybe the most memorable, maybe not the best, like from a fan's perspective, but the most memorable for you personally.

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Well, I think that would you know, I know Mount Rushmore, they're all pretty evenly spread out, but it's hard to replace or usurp to give you the word that came to mind for some odd reason, your first time doing it on a national stage.

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I mean, I ninety-six for me and there was a lot of things going on.

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Joe Tauri was the manager there. I had grown up around him. He was friends with my dad when I was a little kid. He was playing poker in our basement with my dad and now he's a manager of the Yankees. And there he is and they're winning. My dad's alive. I'm calling him after the the last minute of the broadcast after game six. And I'm talking to him on the phone about it.

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And it was kind of like the passing of the torch. I have this great picture because my daughter, my oldest child, Natalie, was born in 96.

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And there's a picture of my dad holding my newborn daughter on his chest watching TV.

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And it's McCarver and Mae, our faces on TV. So it was like three generations. And he's just watching and I'm on, which was nuts because I spent my whole life watching him do all this stuff so that just personally speaking, there's nothing like that before with the Red Sox was unbelievable.

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Twenty sixteen with the Cubs for the historic nature of it and everything that had happened in this country since they had last one in nineteen eighty eight.

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And then I think 2011 for me, those are the four 2011 with the Cardinals winning not just because. Yeah. St. Louis and all that, but because I had gone through a paralyzed vocal cord that year. I thought my career was over, I'd been through every kind of therapy and it finally started to come back. And David Freese hit that home run in Game six to force game. Seven and my voice was kind of back to normal and it was kind of the end of the most trying year in my life with divorce and everything else that was going on.

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Those are the four that I think stand out to me.

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That's solid. That's a solid four. And I have to ask Alex, I know that. I mean, the ties you guys together, the 004 series. Joe, when you're calling that series, at what point did you feel like things had changed? Because that's never happened before. Team coming back down three. Oh, at what point we like oh, this feels different than maybe some of the other series you've called where team goes up three and gives up one game and then they sweep, you know, they finish them off for one.

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It felt different right after the last pitch of game seven. Before that, you were just waiting. And I think, you know, I've talked to Bill Simmons about I've talked to a lot of Red Sox fans, you know, with their history, you just kept waiting.

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And I think history, by the way, is the great eraser of a lot of.

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Anxiety for that Red Sox team when Kevin Miller says, oh, you know, it just took one, it just took one game and then you get another, those guys, they were defeated. The Yankees pounded them in game three at Fenway Park and it just looked like a runaway. And it was almost like, this thing's over, but let's just see it. And they were, what, within a hand swipe of a tag on a Dave Roberts stolen base of being swept four games to nothing.

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And instead they end up winning that game game four and then winning the next three. So I think any Red Sox fan or anybody covering it was going this series is so out of nowhere as we're sitting there at Yankee Stadium for Game seven that anything could have happened. So did it switch? Sure.

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But the momentum was all over the place and it was just hard to get a finger on it, although game seven was a bit of a blowout from what I remember at Yankee Stadium in favor of the Red Sox.

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So, Joe, you talked about your vocal challenges. Mycock had something similar.

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At what point do you take yourself visualizing the future without I mean, you've had such a stellar career for so long, NFL, PGA, World Series, Super Bowls, what is Joe? But did you allow yourself to go to a place of like what do I do in my life? I was a mess.

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I mean, I was neurotic.

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I every every time I open my mouth, which meant that I stopped really open in my mouth and talking to anybody, I became really unwilling to make phone calls and didn't talk to any of my friends.

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It was hard to order a coffee at Starbucks.

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It was I was talking like this and I couldn't get loud sound like Dr. Fauci now. I sounded like it was over. I sounded like I was dying and inside I kind of was because I was always, you know, I never had thought about my voice.

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I was always worried about what I was going to say, not how I was going to say something.

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And when that shifted from I don't even care what I'm going to say, how the hell am I going to make a loud enough sound that over this crowd and a big moment when you can't keep air in your in your lungs because it's just escaping because one vocal cords paralyzed, it's it just shakes you to your core.

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So I every day I thought, this is it. And it took family, friends. Steve Horn, who you know who I work with. I can't tell you how many times I turned to him after doing the on camera at the beginning I went, Steve, this is I don't know, we can say on this podcast, I'm like, this is F and over.

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This is I'm done. I'm telling you right now I am done. And no, no, you sound fine.

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You got more than just your voice. You got things to say you got and it takes people in your circle to keep you going.

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And then eventually it started to come back and it was OK by the end of that World Series.

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But, man, it was it was unlike anything I had been through before and unlike anything I've been through since, I'm glad I went through it. I think I have a more of an appreciation for for what I do for a living, but it sucked.

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Yeah. I mean, you're also probably glad you went through it because the hair plugs, right? Yeah.

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I mean, like, you know, look at this luscious mane.

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At what point are you OK to joke about that, by the way, the hair plugs or you not. Am I, is it not am I still early on that.

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Oh no, no, no. I mean, that's why I wrote a book. I mean, I think the best thing I ever did.

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Was open up about all that and then the funny thing is, is, as you know, Alex knows, and when you come out with your memoir, when they're promoting it, they will take like the most crazy sentence that has no context in it whatsoever.

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Some joke, joke, joke, joke, joke about hair, plug, hair plug, hair plug, hair plug. And then it's like, you know, I guess you could say I became addicted to hair plugs, which was a joke, because I'm talking about how painful the most painful thing of all time.

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And that's the quote that gets shot around the Internet.

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And I'm like, oh, you're an asshole. You're addicted, you're addicted to hair plugs. Like people are addicted to real things like it was it.

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I'm no, I'm not. You'd be insane to be addicted to the most painful thing you could ever go through.

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But you you have to imagine that, like, of course, you're going to run with it. I remember seeing the quote Joe Buck almost losing his voice because he was addicted to hair plugs. And I'm thinking like, you know, most broadcast, like your dad would go out for a beer after a game, you would go to the fucking hair plug place and be like, write me up, doc.

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Like you give me up. I got to feel good. I got the shakes I need. I need more hair plugs.

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And if I'm addicted to it, I've only done it eight only it's a lot and never done it since.

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But yeah, eight times. I don't know how you're addicted to something and you only do it eight times.

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Congratulations.

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I didn't know you quit hair plugs, cold turkey and I did what I had to do. Yeah. Yep. Yeah I should. I should.

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How narcissistic would I be. A to get a B to carry out a chip is if I kick some crazy habit. I hated every second of it. Oh man.

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I love it. So something just triggered in my brain. When you were talking about your voice over a crowd, have you had the moment yet where you thought I might be calling NFL games with no crowds? And what do you think that's going to do? You're probably going to have to carry a lot more of the broadcast and, you know. Fill in the space that usually is used for the crowd and letting the ambiance do the talking here. Here's my dogs.

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Yeah, by the way, nice Stella bite second. Stella right in the neck. Beautiful, beautiful dog.

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Poor thing. I as as I think about that, it's a bit unnerving.

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I do believe that if games take place without fans in the stands for the viewing experience at home, whatever network's carrying, whatever hockey, the NHL, if its right into the Stanley Cup playoffs, if it's NBA, if it's Major League Baseball, NFL, the television network, in my opinion, is going to have to put some sort of crowd noise underneath it.

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And people all the traditionalists will go crazy. Well, we've never been in this position before.

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And so you have to make the viewing experience as good as it can be. I've even heard that they've talked about putting virtual fans in the stands.

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I think making that experience as normal as possible has to happen now. You have to have somebody there that gets it and has a good feel for when a crowd and how a crowd would react, how big the reaction should be if the home team blows something or bad, call what the crowd would do.

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You know, probably boo. I think it's got to be a really smart person sitting in that seat doing it.

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But to me, it's it's absolutely got to happen.

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Yeah, I agree. I agree with you there. It's just going to be interesting to see because you I'm sure you will feel the pressure a lot more in those moments when you can't. And I think you do it better than any other broadcaster. Letting the crowd speak for the moment is almost the best thing that can happen on a broadcast because you bucks are there. So having that not exist, it's going to be it's going to be very, very eerie.

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It's in it to me. You signify the importance of the moment and in some ways the event by how crazy the crowd gets. Now, it's not always that way because it's not always the home team that's that's making the big moment. But there's noise and there's, you know, even even if there's deafening silence after a lot of noise that speaks volumes to.

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So, yeah, I think it's vitally important to have that because it just gives the event importance on somebody's television.

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Joe, you you know, I know what it is to be caught with between Fox Network and ESPN. You're married to an NFL reporter, superstar and Michelle. Yes. What's interesting is your birthday is on April 25th and your son on April 26. Did you guys actually plan that?

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Yeah, well, I guess kinda because she was induced so we could have done the same day, but my ego and narcissism won't allow that to happen. So we picked the next day.

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And by the way, I just want to announce to the world that my wife, Michelle Beisner Buck has hair plugs to go.

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OK, breaking news.

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I'm just just kidding. She doesn't, but. Well, it runs the addiction runs in the family. Probably the only way it's contagious. Yeah.

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It's like it's like dating someone who has, like, motorcycles and tattoos. All of a sudden you become that same person, right?

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Yeah. You start to look like your dog in your case or your dog starts to look like you.

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You gave my dog a compliment. So I'll take that. You said my dog is beautiful. So thank you for calling me beautiful. Yes.

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If there's one word I would use to describe you beautiful, I don't know.

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Whatever, although I feel like you downplay you downplay kind of the look, you try to look dumpy and let me tell you, you succeed.

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It's such a nice thing. Yes. You're the best. You're so nice. You try to look you try to look dumpy and you nail it.

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And nobody nobody does dumpy like big cat. Oh, man.

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All right. So to tie you guys together, first I saw a story that, Joe, you once got A-Rod hurt. I wish I I will find the I have it framed, so, yeah, I was it was a Yankees Red Sox game.

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I don't know what you're I think it's right about the same time we're talking about like 2000, 10, 11, 12 somewhere there.

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So I'm walking out. I'm with my my sister's son walking out, walking along in front of the dugout.

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And Alex is fielding ground balls at third base from somebody hit and fun goes. Adam, I don't know who was Lance Berkman was in the cage. I remember this like it was this morning. And Alex turns it goes, Hey, Joe. I'm like, hey, I mean, now I've grown up around batting practice. I was around it my entire life with my dad. I know that you don't mess with anybody during batting practice. I don't really mess with anybody anyway.

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And I'm like, yeah, yeah, hey, Alex and I keep walking. And then Alex goes, Hey, Joe is that year. And I think he was going to say, Is that your son? But he didn't get to the son part. He went, Hey, Joe, is that your whack?

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And he got smoked right in the shin or like right above the knee. And the next thing I know, Alex is hobbling one leg out into the shallow center field. And my my nephew, he's got kind of this kind of raspy voice turns to be this huge baseball fan.

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He's like, that's not good. And I was like, holy shit, I just got Alex Rodriguez killed. All I did was walk on the field. And so then it became like a thing like, did anybody see what happened? It was me. And I was just kind of keeping my head down and infielder. I think his name was Bill Hall. Used to play for the Red Sox.

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Is that his name? Billy Hoyle. Billy Hall. He's like I think he was I think Alex was talking to that Fox guy, what's his name? And then all of a sudden the media scrum came over to me. I'm doing an impromptu press conference about how I bothered Alex during batting practice. Really, Alex was bothering me.

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And then I go up to the broadcast booth.

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I'm like white as a sheet and I find Cashman. I'm like, look, I said, Brian, I don't know what Alex's status is. They took him out of the lineup. I said, I have no idea.

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I didn't do anything. I walked on the field. That's he's like, don't worry about it. Don't worry. He was unbelievable about it. And then the next day in the New York Daily News on the back, it's the headline was What the Buck. And it was Alex grabbing his leg and then my little picture in it and it said Fox broadcaster Joe Buck says, Hi, Alex Rodriguez. You know, whatever the hell it said and I have it framed, it's in my basement right now.

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Amazing. So Cat the inside on that was, you know, ever every so often when Joe would come into town, we'll go grab dinner or go grab a drink or something. And that may have been one of the nights that we were going to go grab some food after the game. And as I'm catching grumbles at third base, he comes out of the third base kind of entry there where the media comes in and literally he's not even looking. Hey, Joe, what's up?

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And as I got smoked so hard on a Grambow ride on top of my ankle, it looked like I got shot.

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I thought it broke your leg. I thought because of my presence, Yankee fans already think I don't like the Yankees. Now I've got Alex Rodriguez or third baseman for a Red Sox game, at least maybe the rest of the year is out because I picked that second to walk out on the field. I mean, you can't you can't make it up.

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Mm hmm. Unbelievable, huh?

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Yeah, it was great. Really loved it. It was fun. That's got to be so anxiety inducing. Oh, my God. I get. Yeah. The other thing that I think you guys have kind of in common and ties you is that you both have had wildly successful careers where you have kind of gone from moments of people not liking you to a redemption of, hey, we kind of like this guy.

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How in Alex you could maybe start and then we'll go to Joe. But navigating that change and trying to figure out how to properly, you know, block out the negative criticism and how much of that actually filters through, because I think a lot of times people say you can't listen to haters, but everyone does. How how is that affecting your career?

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Yeah, I mean, for a while, not good, because I didn't know how to handle it. And the harder that I tried, the worse it got. And I just did not understand the game for lack of a better term. I didn't understand that introducing levity into my life would actually make it better. And by beating reporters and those critics to the punch, then ultimately you beat them to it. Right. So I think post my suspension, I just came back a different person.

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I felt like I hit rock bottom. And at this moment I'm playing with the house's money. Go out. Have fun. If people are going to hate me, which some will anyways might as well be my true self and not someone that I'm trained to be and that they never. So I've just had a lot more fun and has been taking myself too seriously.

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Yeah, for me, yeah, I don't know that that ever changes because I'm in a position where half the crowd is going to be mad at the messenger that just told them their team lost the World Series or whatever, that just comes with the job. So it's either I think at some point you realize you either laugh at it all and realize that in a weird way, it's almost not personal because they don't even know me. They have no idea what I'm about.

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They they really don't know my family. I don't know what I do in my off time. They don't know what I the kind of person I try to be.

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So it's almost not even personal. It's like a thing.

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And if you if you put it in that category, it doesn't hurt as much.

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But I think for me, it's always going to bother me if I can't act like it doesn't bother me. And it's one of the things that when I came out of 2011 and that whole vocal thing, I thought, you know, I've got the best job in the world.

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I've always known that, but I'm going to show it and I'm just going to do what I do.

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And if people like me, great, if they don't, OK, I I'm I'm wired to make try to make everybody love me, and that is never going to be the case.

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So writing the book, going on Stern going on this, going on with you on pardon my take that those are always me doing a podcast with Oliver Hudson called Daddy Issues and talking about my own insecurities is a way to give people more information.

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And if after all that they still don't like me, I can't it doesn't matter. It's either that or don't do the job. And I love what I do too much to to not do it.

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Yeah, yeah. It's a good answer. I also wonder, has there ever been a time where a player has said has been mad at you for something you said in the booth and Alex, seem to you. Have you ever got mad? I'm sure journalists aside, but like a broadcaster, have you ever been like, hey, man, I listen back to that. That was an unfair what you just did. Yeah.

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I mean, that's love. You play for 25 years and that's going to happen here and there. But you look one of the the most celebrated Hall of Fame announcer who happens to be one of the most critical. But I think fair is Tim McCarver. And Timmy and I have had a wonderful relationship and he's a dear friend. And when he would come to New York, I would come over and give him a hug. And regardless of what he said during the game, I felt that was on me.

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I ultimate can't control what Joe and Tim said as long as they said it and it wasn't personal and they weren't talking about something that's under the belt, which ninety nine point nine wasn't from anybody. I mean, announcers are a bit like umpires. You only notice them when they fuck up in that part. I now appreciate much better being a broadcaster and try my ass off just to be OK. So that's my answer.

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Yeah, I, I don't feel like I'm ever unfair, but I know that when we're doing a game I've talked to Alex, I've been doing this since I was a kid. I know that when we're up there doing a game, they're players in the league, in the clubhouse going, oh, shut the fuck, what is this fucking guy now or whatever.

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But I've never really I don't really feel like I go into any areas where anybody would be ever really offended.

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And I, I just I don't go there. I remember when my dad, in essence, he and I drove to spring training the year I was going to be in Louisville when I was 19, I left college and I was we're going to we're driving in a car together down to spring training. And he said, you know, you're going to start a triple play this year. You need to realize a couple of things. One, nobody cares if the announcers, hot or tired or whatever, just do your job and shut up.

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Don't complain. And too, you tried to play this game poorly in high school, tried to play college, realize that unless you think you could make that play ten times out of ten, they're down.

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They're trying to make they're not trying not to make a good play.

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So treated as such. And I, I don't feel like I've ever really been critical. That's not my style. I don't know that anybody would ever go, oh, that guy, he's he's an unfair asshole. He doesn't realize how hard it is. I feel like I do.

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You got a question, Alex. Sorry, I'm going to let you go.

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And then I have my my lightning rod round for.

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OK. All right. All right, Joe. Best home run hitter that you've ever seen.

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Well, I probably Barry Bonds. I mean, I Bonds had to pick out basically one pitch a game, and he rarely missed it because they always just pitched around him.

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So, Barry, OK, did you. Now, where is A-Rod? On there. What number? How far down we got to go? No, no, I've said this publicly.

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And, you know, Steve Horn, the guy that works with me, will tell you if you put everything into consideration.

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Especially the defensive position and how great of a shortstop he was, and then for a guy to hit well over 600 home runs, 3000 hits, I mean, he's one of the greatest players in the history of Major League Baseball.

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I didn't see a ton of his home runs because I didn't do a lot of Mariners games and I didn't do really any Texas games when he was there. So I, I tend to go to the guys I saw more.

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But my God, the other guy on the of the three of us, one of us is one of the greatest players in the history of baseball.

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The other two that you and my podcast are greatest podcasters. Yeah. But I mean just pure homemade box son and Jack Buck son. There's a great podcast or knows how to play Delpy. And then there's Jack Buck's son that those are the other two guys.

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What do you want me to say for three.

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One. I never saw Ruth. I didn't see much. I didn't see much of Hank Aaron. I didn't watch Willie Mays, although he was my dad's favorite player. I mean, he's top ten. Is that good enough?

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Hmm. OK. All right. Top ten somewhere in there. I'll give you top five, A-Rod. So thank you. Yeah, no big deal. All right, A-Rod, before you get to the rapid fire questions, are it sponsored by LinkedIn, LinkedIn? Com slash the corp to get fifty dollars off your first job post? Make sure you do that right now. LinkedIn is a great sponsor of the corp. LinkedIn is where you need to go to find jobs.

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Go well wait one second, one second. You got to from the time of an ad from the no. Yeah I actually like to do that.

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When I go on other people's podcast I bring an ad with me. That's good.

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From the time that that you started that promo to the end, Alex bought LinkedIn.

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Yes. Yes, yeah. Oh, before you do the LinkedIn Rapid Fire questions, er I think Joe Bucket, I need to turn it on you a little bit. Let's what's going on with the Mets. Are we do Joe and I get an investment.

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Yeah. It's a put it a little, I'm going to put in a hundred bucks and say we're an owner, we're going to lightning rod and called Lightning Round.

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Yeah. All right. Here we go. Joe, these are not meant to be taken seriously, but just fun. Repulsive. Let it fly. OK? All right. What's wrong? Nothing's going to get a guy to fire faster than that. I know. What song do you sing in the shower?

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I'm all out of love. I'm so lost without you. What apps are open on your phone right now? My woop woop woop is like, you know, it tells me how I slept last night, it tells me how many calories I've burned it causes.

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Don't do that. If you get one of these, you won't be able to play dumpy anymore, OK?

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All right. Joe Buck, book or Kindle. A book that's going to be inside three books that you recommend. I would say there's three of my go to my all time favorite book was A Prayer for Owen Meany.

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In the Garden of the Beasts was unbelievable and devil in the White City are those are three those are three wrecks for me right now. And then there was another one that I just finished called like underneath are beneath the red sky, Snapchat or Instagram.

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Instagram, coffee or tea? Coffee. One pet peeve. My wife picking her nail polish, her her defunct nail polish off while we're eating dinner. I can't say it makes me throw up in my mouth the other quarantine.

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That's a quarantine pet peeve. By the way, that's a good day. 50. You know, it really drives me nuts. We all have had those moments where we're like, this isn't real. Like what we're saying is not real.

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I don't know. There's just a noise that that makes that if I if somebody wants to torture me, put me in a cell somewhere with the noise of her plucking her fingernail polish off her fingernails, Joe Buck, who would play Joe Buck in a movie of your life?

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Um, I would say Denzel Washington, what would be your last meal?

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It would probably be the media food at Yankee Stadium. I mean, that would probably literally be my last meal, describe these people with one word, David Ortiz. Gregarious Mariano Rivera, quiet Timmy Merkava. Controversial Barack Obama. Athletic John Smoltz. Golfer two more, Aaron Rodgers. Smart and the last one, Mr. Jack, the great Jack Buck.

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Uh. Philanthropic. Oh, you could have just went with dad and I could have, but it would have been a cop out.

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I mean, I don't know of anybody in any community that raised more money than my dad did in St. Louis for any cause that came knocking.

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That's how. All right, so we got to find someone who did more so we can prove you wrong, you can't. Bill Gates. Ever heard of him as a broadcaster?

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As the father of my and father of mine? Yes. All right.

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I got one last questions after off the lightning round. So does Yankee Stadium have the best broadcast booth buffet?

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No. In fact, when I show up in the postseason, they don't have really anything.

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Who who has the best? I want the best for both football and baseball. This is a passion of mine to think not about the intricacies of what Joe Buck does day to day and like how cool his job is. It's what do you think Joe Buck gets to eat for free when he shows up to the stadium?

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I grew up a fat kid, so the former Busch Stadium had some of the best burgers that you've ever experienced in your life, chocolate milk, hot dogs, all that.

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But that's gone. But you were a fat kid, so you liked everything.

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So we liked everything. But I'm blaming the and the fact that my mom never gave me a salad.

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Clearly, when I was a kid, I would say football wise, Green Bay has the best buffet.

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That or Philly. Those are the two.

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Those are the two that stand out to me. Baseball.

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I would go with San Francisco, the Giants. They they have they have a lot of selection, the only thing is at the end of the meal, with the way they separate the trash with compost and then recycle and then I it takes me 20 minutes to throw my stuff away.

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I don't know what goes where. It's the most stressful part of my day.

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Yes. Yes. I believe that that is when you don't know where to throw the bottle and then the paper plate. But it's not a paper plate and I don't want to get that look.

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I don't want to. Hey, that was that should have gone in the compost, but I'm not even totally sure what compost is.

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Mm hmm. I agree. I agree. Alex, you got anything else? I just as say thank you to Joe Buck. I know you're super busy, really enjoyed your podcast if you haven't heard it, Joe, but tell us remind us the name again.

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Daddy issues with Oliver Hudson. I have daddy issues. He has he's a mess. So just listen to that.

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When you're not listening to the Kaup or you're not listening to pardon my take are you're not you know, whatever.

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Watching Ozark want to sell cheese, enthusiasm, Joe Outguess. It's great. It's great. It'll change your life. Yeah.

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If you have everything, if you listen to everything that's ever been produced and it's just kind, it's just so much what's it called.

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Daddy issues.

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Daddy issues. Daddy issues. If it's just that left give it a try.

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It may, it may very well change your life. It may do nothing. Yeah. You may hate it.

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You don't know I either way I don't care. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. Very much. My man really appreciate you. Absolutely.

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Tell tell Jennifer I'll get back to her. She's been texting me like crazy right now. All right. That's a nice move there.

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OK, so you guys see.