Transcribe your podcast

You're listening to Comedy Central. Hey, everybody, welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. I'm Trevor Noah. Today is July 20th, and New York has officially entered phase four of the reopening or as coronavirus calls it, back to work maybe. Now, as you can see, I am still filming the show from my apartment because I'm using the TV studio to store grain. Yeah, you gotta be ready for the second wave anyway. On tonight's episode, Trader Joe's Decolonizing Itself, Kanye West drops his weirdest track yet, although most classrooms are closed, Chris Wallace still found a way to take Trump to school.


So let's do this, people.


Welcome to the daily social distancing show from Trivers Couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the daily social visit to Joe with DriveAble.


Let's begin today's episode with a celebration of John Lewis, the civil rights icon who died Friday at the age of 80. All weekend, people were remembering just how extraordinary this man's life was.


Civil rights icon and American hero John Lewis passing away at the age of 80 as a college student.


He helped lead the fight against racial inequality by participating in multiple protests in 1963. He was just 23, the youngest speaker at the march on Washington, right alongside Martin Luther King Jr..


Let us not forget that we are involved in a fair social revolution.


Two years later, he would lead peaceful protesters across the Edmund Pettus Bridge fighting for the right to vote.


They were met with brutal force by state troopers. Lewis bloodied and with a fractured skull. He would continue his fight as a U.S. representative known as the conscience of Congress.


Hundreds gathering overnight for a candlelight vigil there in Atlanta. An outpouring of tributes for a legend, including from Barack Obama, who credited Lewis with helping to make his presidency possible. Later awarding him the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2011 and now sharing these words. Not many of us get to live to see our own legacy play out in such a meaningful, remarkable way. John Lewis did.


Wow. You know, you have lived quite a life when you get heartfelt tributes like that from all across the globe. And they really did come in from everywhere, even from Republican colleagues that said, hey, this guy was an amazing human being who fought for what he believed in. Although I will say there were a few that were just a little bit off key. For instance, Mitch McConnell, Senate majority leader, and what mushroom's would look like if they had facies.


He sent out a long statement praising Lewis's sacrifices. But at the same time, he's also been blocking the effort. Lewis led to fully restore the Voting Rights Act. So it's a lot like if the Joker wrote a eulogy for Batman. Some people try to destroy the city he loved or tried to poison him with laughing gas. But I always miss Betsy. What? You are the one doing that.


I mean, to be fair, though, Mitch McConnell always sends a sweet message when a black colleague dies because it's one less person he has to keep from voting. But probably the most awkward tribute to John Lewis came from Marco Rubio, Republican senator and guy who could get away with playing Little League. On Saturday, Rubio tweeted a tribute to John Lewis Butz with a photo of himself standing with a different deceased black congressman, Elijah Cummings. And I'm sorry, man, but that's just so embarrassing.


I mean, this is the racial version of calling out your ex, his name in bed. But I guess now I finally understand why Rubio sent me an edible arrangement on Don Lemon's birthday. I mean, didn't make sense. But I hate that shit. And it wasn't just Rubio. Two Republican senators confused John Lewis with Elijah Cummings, which is positively insane because they worked with the man for years. This probably explains why Republicans only have one black guy in Congress at a time.


Less chance for confusion. All right. You're the House guy and you're the Senate one. All right. This works. But let's move on to a somewhat less legendary political figure, Kanye West, hip hop superstar and Kim correction's eldest child. Conway has been promoting a new album, slash presidential campaign, and it has not been going great.


Connew West is moving forward with his campaign for president.


He held a rally in Charleston, South Carolina, yesterday, arriving on stage with the year 2020, shaved into the back of his head and wearing what appeared to be a military style vest. West appeared to be putting forward policy proposals on the fly.


Everybody has a baby, gets a million dollars or something.


And at one point, he broke down into tears while describing how he was nearly aborted by his parents.


No left. Because my dad. One of the more controversial statements of the night, though, came when he criticized abolitionist Harriet Tubman.


Well, Harriet Tubman never actually freed the slaves. Jesus had the slaves over her father, right? Yeah, we live in right now.


OK, this is officially the weirdest hip hop beef of all time. You can go off to Harriet Tubman for not getting the slaves better jobs. What was she supposed to do, run the Underground Railroad and LinkedIn?


I mean, I guess congratulations, though. Can you found a campaign hat that black people are even less likely to wear than Trump's? And honestly, guys, I don't know what to make of this. I genuinely don't know what to make of this. But my takeaway from this event is that Connew West doesn't seem well, like I feel like someone who cares about him needs to take his microphone away. Although, ironically, the best person for that job is Conway.


The battle for justice in America continues every single day. But if it seems like there's no end in sight, at least there's progress on some of the smaller issues. Trader Joe's supermarket chain is under fire. It's being urged to change some of the names of its ethnic foods.


Over 1000 people have signed a petition urging the company to rename products labeled Cheater Me, a trader who Zis and trader John Oaks Church Joes says they've been in a year's long process of repackaging products. And we'll soon complete the work.


We did. It's Black Lives Matter. No justice, no peace. And also rename the pasta. But look, I get why people complained about how they were branding the foods and Trader Joe's like, let's be honest, you don't have to call something trade a Mings for them to know that it's Chinese food, just like you don't have to call it Trader Karens for them to know that it has pumpkin spice in it. So I am glad that they're revamping these labels if this is what people want.


You know, if your company is over 60 years old, it's inevitable the branding is going to become problematic at some point. I mean, you should see what hunting arterials looked like up until last week, who they would dope. That was problematic. Now, you may be wondering what happens to all this food after it gets canceled? Like, do they just throw it away? Because, I mean, that seems like a waste. Well, the good news is there's actually a grocery service that gives you the food you need with all of the racial insensitivity you crave.


Are you sad because your favorite problematic brands have been canceled?


Angie, my mom was canceled. Then you need biggest basket, big basket deliveries, all the brands that you will find in those p.c grocery stores.


Products like going to my mom, Uncle Ben, build the walnuts, Tucker Carlson, nose and white chocolate. Sure, you could buy the same exact food under a different name, but you have a sophisticated palate. And, you know, food tastes better when it's making someone sad into older lives even more. All our deliveries are packaged in those plastic rings that kill turtles. So order your biggest basket today. Use promo code. All those matter to get 10 percent off.


So offensive, but so delicious. All right. We have to take a quick break. But when we come back, we'll take a look at how everyone should be interviewing Donald Trump. So stick around.


The Daily Show is brought to you by Herries. Did you know if you switched to using Harry's razors today, you could save enough to pay for six months of your Netflix subscription? That's because Harry's delivers high quality razor blades as low as two dollars each, a fraction of the price of the leading brand. Saving you hundreds of dollars over time. And with Harry's close shave. Smart design and fresh smelling shave gels, you won't miss your old razors one bit.


Harry's delivers razors and blade refills directly to your door on your schedule, with or without a subscription. You can get blades, hair care and shower products all on Harry's and just like their blades. Harris is committed to providing premium products without breaking the bank and to help support those who need it most right now. Herries is donating one million worth of shaving supplies to hospitals across the U.S. so you can feel just as good about your purchase as you do when using.


Harry's listeners of The Daily Show can redeem their Harrys trial set at Herries dot com slash Daily Show. You'll get a weighted ergonomic handle for a firm grip five blade razor with a lubricating strip and trimmer blade rich lathering shave Joe with aloe to keep your skin hydrated and a travel blade cover to keep your razor dry and easy to grab on the go, go to Harrys dot com slash Daily Show to start shaving and saving. Today. The Daily Show is brought to you in part by Harry's Harry's nose.


Sometimes it's better to stay inside. That's why they ship directly to you so you can experience the quality of a Harry shave in just a few days from the convenience of your own home. Harry's is a return to the essential. They provide quality, durable razors at a fair price, just two dollars per blade. Harry's cut out the middleman manufacturing blades in their German blade factory that's been honing precision blades first century, which means you get incredibly high quality blades and factory direct prices.


Blade refills are delivered directly to your door on your schedule with or without a subscription. And you can feel good about your purchase if you don't love your shave. Let them know and they'll give you a full refund. And Harry's knows the importance of giving to people in need. That's why they make generous donations to support veterans and men's mental health. Listeners can redeem their Harry's trial set at Harry's dot com slash Daily Show and receive a weighted ergonomic handle for a firm grip five blade razor with a lubricating strip and trimmer blade rich lathering shave gel with aloe to keep your skin hydrated and a travel blade cover to keep your razor dry and easy to grab on the go.


Go to Harry's dot com slash Daily Show to start shaving better today. Welcome back to the Daini social distancing show. So yesterday, President Trump sat down for an interview with Chris Wallace, the only reporter at Fox News who isn't trying to become the next press secretary. And you can tell that he isn't because this was no softball interview. In fact, it was pretty much a masterclass in how not to let Trump get away with his usual bullshit. Like, you know, how Trump is always bragging about how well the United States is doing with the Corona virus.


Well, here's what happened when he tried that move with Chris Wallace.


I think we have one of the lowest mortality rates in the world. Well, we went to Mexico. We had 900 deaths on a single day. We will take this week. Ready? You can check it out. He's got me the mortality rate. Kaylee's right here. I heard we had one of the lowest, maybe the lowest mortality rate anywhere in the world. You have the numbers was because I heard we had the best mortality rate in the first place.


This is the number.


Number one, low mortality.


I hope you showed the scenario because it shows what fake news is. OK. I don't think I'm fake news. I will put you will put our stats. You said we had the worst mortality rate in the world. We have to pass the site. Right.


It's a little complicated, but bear with us. We went with numbers from Johns Hopkins University, which charted the mortality rate for 20 countries hit by the virus. The US ranked suburb better than the United Kingdom, but worse than Brazil and Russia. The White House went with this chart from the European CDC, which shows Italy and Spain doing worse. But countries like Brazil and South Korea are doing better. Other countries are doing better. Like Russia aren't included in the White House chart.


Oh, you see, Chris Wallace did two things right there. Trump absolutely hates. He proved them wrong and he made them do homework. And the funniest part about this to me isn't that Trump used a bullshit chart to prove that America has the best mortality rate. It's that even on a bullshit chart, it's still not true. I mean, if you just want any chart that's going to show how well you're doing. Just go all the way with it.


And that wasn't the only time Trump tried to bring receipts that he didn't actually have. Here he is attempting to prove that Joe Biden said he wants to defund the police.


They want to defund the police. And Biden wants to fund the public, but he does not. Look, he signed a charter with Bernie Sanders. I will get that one just like it goes right in the mortality rate. Did you read the charter? He agrees. I nothing about defunding. Oh, really? It says abolish. It says fuck. Let's go. All right. Well, you give me the charter plane. All right. Is you've got to start setting for that.


He says defund the police. He says defund the police. They talk about abolishing the police. They talk about illegal aliens. I get worried. I look forward to seeing, sir. I think I'm. I'm not disagreeing with you on any of those. I'm disagreeing about defund police.


White House never sent us evidence. Bernie Biden platform calls for defunding or abolishing police because there is not.


Oh, man. I don't care how many times I watch it. It is priceless seeing Trump flying around, trying to find effect that he made up. And it actually shows you how his brain just kind of mixes up everything. He reads into one big information smoothie because clearly he read that Biden wants to abolish immigration detention. And he also read that Biden wants police reform and then his brain just mash them up into Biden wants to abolish the police. I kind of want to give Trump a book to read just to see how he would explain it back to me.


Green Eggs and Ham is a tragic story about two eggs that want to marry a man.


They want to get married. They love each other. But again, another great fact check from Chris Wallace. And I gotta admit, I love Chris Wallace, the journalist. But Chris Wallace, the dad, must be a nightmare.


His kids are probably coming home like, yeah, school is fine. You know, we just did a bunch of work and just put my head down and worked. Well, actually, I have photo evidence here of you spending all day under the bleachers vaping while making out with Samantha. And honestly, it got to the point where Chris Wallace wasn't just fact checking Trump, he was fact shaming him, because for years now, Trump has been bragging about what a good score he got on some cognitive ability test.


And yesterday, Wallace flat out told Trump that his test score a shit in the Fox poll.


They asked people who is more competent, who's got his mind, is sounder. I beats you. Well, I tell you what. Let's take a test. Let's take a test right now. Let's go down. Joe and I will take a test. Let him take the same test that I took. Incidentally, I took the test, too, when I heard that you passed it. How did you do that? Well, it's not the hardest test now, but the last picture.


And it's in last. And it's an L.A. Naida. I guess you see, that's all misrepresenting what? That's what it was on the Web. So I'll misrepresentation because, yes, the first two questions are easy, but I'll bet you couldn't even answer the last five questions. I'll bet you can take it very hard. The last five. Well, one of them was cut back from one hundred by seven. And let me tell you that you couldn't answer that.


You couldn't answer. All right. What's the cost? Many of the questions. I get you the tests. I'd like to give it, but I guarantee you that Joe Biden could not answer those questions. OK. You and I answered all thirty five questions correctly.


Wow. Guys, this is sort of making me sad right now. Trump is trying so hard to claim he's a genius because he passed a test where you have to identify an elephant, which, let's be honest, even for Trump, is too easy. I mean, if they wanted to test Trump, they shouldn't have asked him to identify an elephant. They should have asked him to identify his second daughter. Yeah, that would have been impressive. Is it.


Is it this one? No, that's Jared, sir. OK. But I was close. Right. And also counting back from 100 by seven is super easy. Anyone can do it. One hundred ninety three.


Eighty six. You got to be a genius. And you know what? Jokes aside, I actually do feel reassured that Trump passed that cognitive test because someday when terrorists threatened to kidnap the Washington Monument unless the president correctly identifies an elephant.


You know, Trump's got that should handle it. Now, one is the rhino with the long nose. Now, Wallace covered a lot of ground in this interview, but no matter the subject, Trump managed to make it weird. For instance, when Wallace asked Trump about army bases named after Confederate generals, this is what he said.


The National Defense Authorization Act, the ENDI. You have threatened to veto it because in the bill. And this is supported by Republicans as well as Democrats that would rename Army bases named for Confederate generals.


We won two World Wars, two world wars, beautiful world wars that were vicious and horrible. And we want them out of Fort Bragg. We want to. Out of all of these forts. And now they want to throw those names away. Go to that community where Fort Bragg is in a great state. I love that state. Go to go to the community. Say, how do you like the idea of renaming Fort Bragg? And then what are we going to name it?


You got to name it after the Reverend Al Sharpton. Okay.


I'm sorry. What two beautiful world was this dude really can objectify anything. We've had two beautiful, bankable world wars, totally 10. That is such a dumb thing to say that they didn't even think to put something like that on the cognitive test. Should we ask people about both World Wars and see if they find them attractive or not? No, forget it. Nobody's brain is not broken. So the elephant should look like this year.


Also, how insulting is it to say that people might rename the bases off to Al Sharpton? Of course, they should rename it after Al Sharpton. Think about how terrifying that would be for enemy soldiers. I Shiza. Here comes the Al Sharpton brigade. They're gonna call us out on all the racism. We're going to get so cancelled. This almost goes without saying. But there's a giant middle ground between naming bases after Confederate generals and naming them after.


Al Sharpton. I mean, America has had lots of non Confederate generals, and Trump should know that he's fired a lot of them. I mean, you can make any problems sound ridiculous if you pretend Al Sharpton is the only solution. President Trump, we need universal healthcare. Who's going to be your doctor? Al Sharpton. But here's the thing.


As incredible as it was to see Trump face a real interviewer, nothing Wallace says is going to convince Trump that he's wrong about anything. Because as Trump showed, even when he is already being proven wrong, he still insists that eventually he's gonna be right.


Dr. Fouche, you at the beginning said this will pass. Don't worry about it. This will pass. It was real. But you made mistakes, too. I guess everybody. I was going to say you said at one point.


I think we're going to be very good with the Corona virus. I think that at some point that's going to sort of just disappear.


I hope I'll be right eventually. I hope you're right. Actually, you know, I said it's going to disappear. I'll say it again. But to go into this, it is like this.


And I'll be right eventually. I'll be right. That's not how being right works. If you get the wrong answer at trivia, you can't get a point by claiming that eventually one of the answers will be Marge Simpson. But that also does expose the fundamental truth about Trump. He's much more concerned about being able to say his rights than about actually being right. If Coronavirus ends up wiping out the entire planet except for Trump, he'll be standing at a podium all by himself saying, you see folks that totally disappeared.


I was right. I don't go away, because after the break, I'll be speaking with former national security adviser and Ambassador Susan Rice. And then we'll be talking to Game of Thrones star Natalie Emanuel. We'll be right back.


Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. My first guest is Susan Rice, former national security adviser and U.N. ambassador for President Obama. And she's also a New York Times best selling author of the book Tough Love. We spoke about Joe Biden's vice presidential prospects and the legacy of John Lewis. Ambassador Rice, welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show.


It's great to be with you forever. Thanks.


It's a very different way to be with one another. And during this time, I've realized it's also a very different way for us to mourn the passing of people that we admired or cared about most recently. John Lewis, when you look at his legacy and his life and what we need to continue doing today, how far do you think we are on continuing that journey and that and creating that good trouble, as he called it?


Well, I hope that John Lewis, his legacy will be to give us all a kick in the pants and remind us that we can be much better than we are, especially than we are today. You know, he had such warmth and such humanity and such courage and he never, never quit fighting. And he knew that he was leaving us in a moment when we were being sorely tested. When there's the possibility of us finally reckoning as he tried all his life with our historic racial injustices and our deep seated inequalities that are not only racial but socioeconomic.


But it's also a moment where we're struggling with a pandemic that is disproportionately affecting low income people and people of color, immigrants. And we have leadership that literally could care less.


You were the national security adviser to President Obama. You were part of the pandemic response team. You were part of the people who were tasked with protecting America from a situation just like this. What plans did you have in place that the Trump administration did or didn't use or what should have been done as somebody who was on a task force designed just to do this?


We understood, as did frankly, prior administrations, that pandemics are inevitable, that they it's hard to predict exactly when they'll come. But we know they will come and they've come repeatedly since 1918. In fact, we had under the Obama administration in 2009 what was known as the swine flu pandemic, which was quite consequential. So we understood this could happen. So we were prepared. We left the incoming Trump administration with briefing papers and a sixty nine page playbook, which I like to call Pandemics for dummies.


It was here all the questions and considerations you should run through if and when you face this kind of crisis. We had a tabletop exercise with the entire incoming Trump cabinet and the outgoing Obama cabinet. And we sat down in one of the scenarios we ran for them turned out to be pression. It was of such a novel, Saar's like virus emerging China. And, you know, all of that seemed to be for not because a couple of years into office, President Trump dismantled the office that I set up on global health security.


They trashed that playbook or stuck it in some drawer and some shelf, never pulled it out for two months, January, February and part of March. He really denied the reality of this virus. It equated it to the seasonal flu. Said it would go away. It was no big deal. And then by that time, you know, it was already well embedded in our country and closing down flights from China or flights from Europe were too little, too late.


And he said that save, you know, hundreds of millions of lives. Well, it's cost his mishandling of this has already cost one hundred and forty thousand lives. And it's going to tragically be many more.


It seems like America is one of the few countries where the country doesn't have a rule about wearing masks, whereas overseas you get like the U.K., you get South Africa, you get so many countries really gone. Hey, we don't care about your personal opinions on this. Just like wearing clothes. You have to wear a mask for now. And it's as simple as that. Do you think the federal government should have more of a global message in and around mosques?


Absolutely. I mean, it's ridiculous that we've allowed small pieces of cotton to be, you know, this incredibly divisive thing. We don't mind wearing shirts and pants in public. Why do we have to mind wearing masks in public if it's going to protect ourselves and our loved ones and those in our community? If Donald Trump had from early on said, look, you know, I recognize that, you know, it may be a little bit uncommon. Or can inconvenient.


But when you're out in public. Do as I do. Wear a mask. Keep your loved ones and yourself safe. Keep your city safe. It'll make a huge difference. It'll enable us to bend this curve. Keep it down and get our businesses back and running. People back to their jobs. Kids back to their schools. I don't think we would have had this political reaction to the extent that we have today.


How do you view the situation in Portland right now? Because that that has thrown many Americans off kilter. You know, federal officers coming in an unmarked cause in unmarked uniforms, grabbing people off the streets, throwing them into vans, apprehending them, people feeling like it feels less like a like a free country and more like an authoritarian regime, you know, for some of the people who are on the ground. When you look at what's happening, I mean, there's always a balance between a federal response and letting the states handle it or the cities themselves.


But how do you view what's happening in Portland right now? Do you think that it's a it's a it's a required use of force or federal assistance, or do you think that something has gone off the rails?


No, it's an abuse of power by President Trump and it's a purely politically motivated abuse of power. He's sagging in the polls. He thinks the only way to rally his base is through racism and, you know, touting law and order. He is sending federal forces out on the streets without markings, without insignia, probably without legal authority to do so. And he's rounding up people as if we were, you know, in Belarus or something. It's ridiculous.


And, you know, it has nothing to do with their stated mandate of protecting federal buildings and installations. They're now out literally beating the crap out of peaceful protesters and trying to incite more violence so that they have an excuse to use more force. But here he is now pushing the envelope in Portland and threatening to do it elsewhere. And I think Americans need to be on high alert. This is an abuse of power. It's corruption. It's autocracy.


On our own shores, there's no denying that your name has come up repeatedly in and around the conversation of vice president. Would you want to serve in the Biden administration? Would you want to serve as a V.P.?


Well, Trevor, what I want is for Joe Biden to be elected the next president of United States. I want us to win the Senate and keep the House so that we have the opportunity to put our country back on course and to unite the country and to deal with the damage that's been done, but also to take this opportunity and move forward, improve health care, improve education, deal with our underlying disparities. And if I can help in any way, whether it's at the highest levels or some other way, to be part of helping him get elected and to govern, if and when he does, then that's what I want to do.


And if that's not what he chooses for me, that's fine as well. I will do everything I can regardless because of all that we've just talked about. So much is at stake. We have got to move this country in a different and better direction. And so I'll do anything I can. Whether it's the modern day equivalent of licking envelopes or it's, you know, standing back inside.


Well, as you say, I hope America gets back on track. I hope people find a way to depoliticize those little pieces of cotton. And hopefully your words will become prescient when we try to get in a few months. Ambassador Rice, thank you so much for joining us on the Daily Social Distancing Show.


Thanks, Trevor. Great to be with you.


After the break, I'll be speaking to Natalie Emanuel. Want miss it? Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Earlier today, I spoke with Natalie. And we spoke about the Black Lives Matter movement in Britain. We also spoke about her new series, Die Hot, which is available right now on Kibbie.


Now, in this lesson, we're going to focus and explore the action star's motivations. Agent King, what is your motivation after working undercover in Paris? I go down to the basement of the Louvre, where I thought the theft of an ancient Egyptian artifact when I'm accosted by a rogue agent. Good.


Is your heart a cost that's a little strong? Focus. Focus. Natalie Emanuel, welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. This is so cool.


I thought excited on the show, even though, you know, it's factually congratulations on the new Kibbie show, which is coming, getting rave reviews and honestly, my favorite quippy show. I know it's a really short format and people are trying to figure out how to make a show in such a short format. But you on the show with Kevin Hart, it's called Diehards and it's honestly one of the funniest. And action packed shows I've ever seen, regardless of the platform.


Oh, thanks so much.


Yeah. It was a lot of fun and I think for the short form. The shore platform. Sorry for that, that they have created. I think the show so wonderfully light just keeps me on a cliff hanger at the end of every episode. And like, how have they done this? Like, it's a show, except that I want to click the next one on them. I think they've done such a great job with it. And it was just such a joy to work on.


It was. If you find the show funny, like it's safe to say that we laughed a lot when we were making it as well.


Right. It's also like it's of a cool departure for us to see you in. Because, I mean, you know, we've seen you in action movies like Fast and Furious and then we've seen you in, like, really dramatic roles. I mean, most famously Game of Thrones. And so, like to see you in a comedy where you don't take yourself seriously. But in the show you're trying to take yourself seriously is a fun world to be.


You've got Kevin Hart, who's always hilarious, and then you've got John Travolta, who just like comes in with this gravitas and hilarious. Like he just comes in with hilarity on screen that you don't expect. What was it like working with, like, just the three of you together in the space doing something completely new?


Well, first of all, for me, I was kind of pinching myself the whole time because I'm. Dancing with Kevin Houghton. John Travolta. Like what? So that was pretty exciting for me. But to be honest, the three of us together, we had such great chemistry. We had so much fun together. And Kevin is just so he has so much energy and keeps the laughs all the time just to keep the energy up. You know how on sack and long days and it's cold and damp and you light up like he's always so like ready to go.


And he was so funny in his genius and then working with John. I mean, he's funny in a whole other way that it's so brilliant. And it was just so amazing to watch him work. And he's his range is insane.


And then you have all these ideas out and just like, you know, it's incredible to watch. And I had so much fun. And we like like I said before, we just laughed so much and had a really great time together.


You also one of the first people I saw in the U.K. who were, you know, part of the Black Lives Matter movement, like on the ground. I mean, I know, you know, in America we saw this movement, but once it spread around the globe, I remember, you know, seeing you talking about it and you and you were unabashed about it, you weren't afraid to share your thoughts on what needs to change, not just in society, but on screen.


You know, a lot of people talk about how you were the only woman of color on Game of Thrones as a as a leading character was a character, you know, spoken word, character. And it's. It must be an interesting position to be in. But tell me why you've gotten so involved in this and what you hope to achieve in your industry and hopefully in society at large?


Well, I think it's a it's a matter of humanity at this point. You know, like, I'm just like everyone. I'm just. Because seeing people dying and I realized that. I have a platform and I have an audience. And if I can speak out about these things, spread information, share my own experiences. And maybe make a difference in some way then. That's the only way I. That's all I can do. And, you know, when it comes to the entertainment industry, I think that we've made some really important leaps and important changes.


But there's still a lot of work to do. And I think part of this moment and this movement has resulted in people having the conversations about how many black creatives we are hiring at every level of production because it's so easy to sort of do the like, oh, well, we've got a really diverse, inclusive cost in front of the camera. And then every every devil behind the camera isn't really reflective of the world that we live in.


And I think that is where we keep falling into these kind of stereotypes and tropes that these kind of negative depictions of minorities. You know, and I think.


That, for me, is the goal is to spark conversation about the stories and the voices that are in the room, not just in front of the camera. And I have real ambitions to make that change. And I am lucky enough to stop producing and making my own things that I have sat in. That's the part of my desire is to hire is inclusive as possible, whether it be gender, race, you know, just everyone like well, like you say, the first step is beginning with the conversations, having the intention.


And then hopefully creating something where everyone has some equity that represents society at large. So thank you for sharing. And thank you for coming on the show. And thank you for staying healthy. And hopefully we'll see you again, not through a lens. Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. Have a good one, Natalie. Thank you so much, Natalie. Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go. America is facing a nationwide poll shortage right now, and it's because most poll workers are over 60.


And with Colvard still in the air, they are understandably not showing up. But the thing is, fewer poll workers means fewer polling stations are going to be open. And it means that there's going to be longer lines that not everybody can afford to stay and wait and especially in communities of color. The good news is, though, most poll working as paid and in some states you can be as young as 16 to do it.


So if you're interested and you have the time, this is your chance to save granny, protect democracy and get some of that money to. The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Here's a dish, watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11:00 pm, 10:00 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central, watchable episodes and videos at The Daily Show DCR. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram and subscribe to The Daily Show on YouTube for exclusive content and more. This has been a Comedy Central podcast.