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You're listening to Comedy Central now. Hey, everybody, welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. I'm Trevor Noah and we're back from our July 4th break. I really hope that you've stayed healthy during this crazy time. As for myself, I spent most of the break stabbing things around my apartment just to see if it was actually cake. And the good news is my roommate was nutcake. The bad news is I need a new roommate either way on tonight's show.

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Donald Trump goes off to the true enemy in this coronavirus pandemic. Dr. Fauci, Michael Costa solves the dilemma over reopening schools. And Hillary Clinton drops by to make America feel bad about its choices. So let's do this, people.

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Welcome to the daily social distancing show from Trivers Koch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the Daily Social Decency Show with driven all a. Let's kick things off with the Black Lives Matter movement, although you may be hearing less about them than you used to, protests are still going on around the country, in part because police brutality is still going on around the country. And the ripple effects of this movement are reaching all aspects of American life, including a long awaited change in the NFL.

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The Washington Redskins have officially retired the Redskins name and Indian head logo after eighty seven years. The football team announced the change following recent pressure from sponsors and decades of criticism that they are offensive to Native Americans. They are now working on a new name and design, which might take some time due to trademark issues. Warriors, red wolves and Red Tails are just some of the most popular choices among fans on social media. Major retailers have already removed Redskins apparel from store shelves and websites.

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Yes, after decades of resisting, the Washington Redskins have finally decided to change their name. And look, this is a step in the right direction, but it almost feels like dismantling structural racism is so difficult that instead America is just crossing off the easy items on its racism. To-Do list. OK, next item, we've got to create an equal and just society.

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Hmm. All right, let's skip that one.

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What about changing the name of a football team and counseling Aunt Jemima? Yeah, that should hold us over for a year.

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So the old name is officially gone, but now the team is searching for a new name. And I'll be honest, I think when it comes to a new name, they've got to keep it simple, keep it safe, change the name to the Washington Washington's. Yeah, it's catchy. It's easy to remember. And most importantly, it honors one of the greatest Americans of all time. My man in other news, former Trump campaign adviser and man genetically designed to look guilty, Roger Stone is back in the headlines.

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Stone was about to begin a 40 month prison sentence for witness tampering, lying to Congress and obstruction of justice in connection with the murder investigation. But it turns out it really does pay to have friends in high places.

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Tonight, the breaking news.

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The president commuted the prison sentence for his friend of several decades, Roger Stone, just days before Stone was set to begin his more than three year prison sentence.

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The president making his longtime friend and ally a free man. The sixty seven year old promised to never turn on the president. This is what Stone told Howard Fineman. He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him. It would have eased my situation considerably, but I didn't. Republican Senator Mitt Romney accusing the president of unprecedented historic corruption. This is bribery, pure and simple, a quid pro quo.

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The president, through this commutation is basically saying, if you lie for me, if you cover up for me, if you have my back, then I will make sure that you get a get out of jail free card.

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Oh, wow. I think Trump is going to have to update his campaign chants after this. Lock him up unless he is my friend, then set him free. Seriously, I love how Trump is the law and order president when it comes to his enemies or marginalized groups being sent to jail. But as soon as it's one of his friends, he becomes a prison abolitionist. The prison system in this country is out of control. We've got to fix it.

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Roger, get out. Problem solved. Back to the way it was. And we all see what happened here, right? Roger Stone lied to protect Donald Trump and in exchange, Trump rewarded Stone by getting him out of prison. And what's even more amazing is that Stone straight up said he deserved a get out of jail free card because he could have turned on Trump, but he didn't. Like, is there any interaction Trump has with another person that isn't a quid pro quo?

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Dad, can you pass the salt? I passed the salt, you disappear.

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And once again, Donald Trump has exposed the flaws in America's system because you can be mad at Trump, but America is the one who gave him the option in the first place. If you have the power to release any of your friends from prison and you don't do it, then you're a bitch ass friend. I'll do it. I release all my friends. You know who should be angriest about this? The jurors think about it. You want a jury, you have to sit there for months listening to all the testimony, the deliberating, the sitting in the tiny room eating the shitty sandwiches, and then the verdict is tossed out because the guy's accomplice happens to be the president.

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Like, I don't even know why people get lawyers anymore. You'd be better off just spending your time in the courtroom kissing Trump's ass. That's what courts should be. They should devolve into that instead of a jury. Should just be Trump in a chair with his back turned. And if your compliments are good enough, you just smash the button and you're free. Moving on to coronavirus, the only thing in twenty twenty that's still hasn't been canceled. Yesterday, New York City recorded zero covid-19 deaths for the first time since March.

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And that's truly amazing news, guys, because if this continues, then hopefully New Yorkers can get back to dying from the usual things, you know, like being kicked in the throat by a subway dancer.

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But unfortunately, across the rest of America, things are worse than ever.

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Breaking news tonight, staggering numbers out of Florida. More than 15000 covid cases confirmed in just one day. Miami Dade hospitals are at 94 percent ICU capacity, with the mayor confirming six are now full. If the Sunshine State were its own country, it would rank fourth highest in the world for new covid cases. In Texas, confirmed cases continue to climb. Nearly six thousand reported today. Hard hit Michigan now seeing an uptick in cases. Hundreds attended July Fourth parties.

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And we've seen the stunning images of testing lines stretching for miles, thousands waiting weeks for results in Arizona. Some labs facing a 30 day backlog. Thirteen states are reporting testing problems.

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You know, I don't know what's worse, honestly. The fact that so many states reopened too early or the fact that they are now facing problems that should have been solved months ago, surge in cases, shortages, testing backlogs, these are all the same problems America was dealing with back in March. So clearly, other than coronavirus getting a summer 10, nothing has changed. And these states saw what happened in New York. They saw it happen here months ago.

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They had time to prepare and they're still not handling it right.

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You know what a horror movie when the teenagers run upstairs away from the killer instead of running outside. This is like if they didn't even run, they just stayed on the couch watching TV. Always, Daryn, he's dead. All right. What's the next episode? I mean, at this rate, America is going to solve its testing issues eight or nine months after we have a vaccine. And while hospitals are filling up and more people are getting sick, Mickey Mouse has decided.

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But the show must go on.

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Disney welcomed guests back to the most magical place on Earth Saturday, the biggest test yet of a major corporation opening its doors in the middle of a pandemic.

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There are strict safety and social distancing protocols. Visitors are required to wear masks and they'll hear this message for the health and safety of everyone.

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Please wear if they subbrand, wash your hands often and thoroughly cover your mouth and nose when coughing and sneezing and maintain physical distance. Say thank you for your cooperation.

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Basically what we're saying is why are you at Disney World?

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It's crazy that we're in the middle of a pandemic that's killed hundreds of thousands of people and there are still folks out there like life isn't scary enough.

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Let's let's go on a roller coaster.

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I mean, look, when my time comes, my time comes.

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But I'm going to do all I can to make sure that my obituary doesn't say cause of death space mountain. And this isn't just dangerous for the visitors. Think about the risk this poses to all of the Disney employees. I mean, the safest job they have right now is the one inside a two hundred degree rat costume. Like what? Dad is so cheap that this vacation is worth the risk.

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Honey, it's fifteen percent off Disney tickets. But Harry, isn't there a pandemic right now? Fifteen percent off.

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You go get the kids, I'm going to load the van now, Mickey Mouse isn't the only cartoon character. People have been imploring to take the coronavirus a little more seriously because for months now, people have also been begging President Trump to at least lead by example and wear a mask in public. And for months, he has flat out refused. But then this happened.

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Breaking news tonight, a huge shift for President Trump wearing a mask in public. Six months into the coronavirus pandemic and President Trump finally wore a mask for the first time in public. He did so while visiting Walter Reed Medical Center this weekend. This image, again, about the president wearing the mask will stick out to a lot of people in the days and weeks ahead.

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OK, guys, I don't know about you, but I think this is the day Donald Trump finally became president. And look, I'm glad that Trump finally put a mask on, but it's got to be confusing for his supporters who have been mocking face masks this whole time.

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I mean, to them, this must be like seeing Trump at a Black Lives Matter march with AOC and then all that. Part of the reason Trump resisted wearing a mask for so long is because he's very self-conscious about his image. That's why he didn't want to do it. So let me go on record as saying President Trump. Don't listen to any of the haters out there who are saying you look like diabetic Bayen or Shrader from the Ninja Turtles, if all he shredded was cheese, you look great.

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So please keep wearing that mask.

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So the good news is that Trump finally seems to be catching up to the reality of the pandemic.

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But, you know, Trump now he has to pretend that he was doing a great job the whole time, which means he has to find someone else to blame for doing a bad job. And you'll never guess who he picked.

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The president and the nation's top infectious disease doctor are not on speaking terms.

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Now, the White House is trying to discredit Dr. Anthony Fauci, which he now says he hasn't briefed the president in over two months and hasn't actually seen him at the White House since June 2nd. In a stunning development, some administration officials are treating him like a political rival, releasing what they say is a list of questionable statements by Dr. Fauci, even though many of them were taken out of context or widely accepted in the early days of the pandemic. Last night, Mr.

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Trump view the apparent feud between him and Dr. Anthony Fauci.

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Dr. Fauci as a nice man, but he's made a lot of mistakes, unlike me, who's not a very nice man but has never made any Blake. She's positively insane. Donald Trump is spending more time trying to defeat Dr. Fauci than defeating the coronavirus. Can you imagine doing actual opposition research about someone on your own team? It's like if Ben put out a press release saying that Jerry personally sneezes and every pint of Chunky Monkey, you both lose and don't get a twisted.

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I'm not saying Dr. Fauci never got anything wrong. I'm not saying that every expert in the world got something wrong when covid-19 first emerged because it was something they'd never seen before. Hence novel. Just like when you first start baking bread, you don't know how to prepare yeast properly. But then after three months of baking it, you've got enough experience to know that you can just get that shit at the store. I mean, we're four months into a global pandemic and the leader of the free world just started wearing a mask.

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This is the same person who was thinking about bleaching his lungs and now he's trying to point his tiny fingers at Dr. Fauci. But if you ask me, the worst part about all of this is that the White House isn't just attacking Dr. Fauci. They're doing it like cowards with leaks to the press.

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If you're going to go after someone, at least give them the respect to be up front about it like this, as the coronaviruses pandemic rages and cases rise uncontrollably.

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There's one man to blame, Anthony Fauci. Foushee says he's a doctor, but what kind of doctor doesn't wear a stethoscope?

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And if he's really a doctor, why is he so short? We don't need leaders who adjust their assessment when they get new information. We need leaders who stick with their gut assessment despite new information that's going to assume it's going to disappear if Foushee care so much about saving lives.

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Why didn't he do anything about the Spanish flu?

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And if he loves Americans so much, why is he palling around with suspicious immigrants? Anthony Fauci, definitely the only person to blame for this whole situation. Oh, boy.

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I think Trump is going to do pretty well against Dr. Fauci in November. When we come back, we'll figure out how schools in America are going to reopen. Yeah, we solved it. Stick around.

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Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thanks to the coronavirus, the big debate right now is, well, two things. One is elbow kissing, considered cheating. And two, how do you reopen schools? How can you get kids learning again but keep them and their teachers safe? Because kids may not be badly affected by coronavirus, but teachers easily could be. And a lot of people don't know this, but teachers have families of their own.

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Yeah, it's true. Mrs. Nicholson didn't sleep in the classroom at night. She had a house and everything. So because of this, schools are trying to come up with different solutions. Some of them have decided to have outdoor classes, but that means that all the kids are going to fail. New York City has announced it will only have kids come into class one to three days a week like an industrial specialist. But then the question is, what are parents supposed to do on the days when their kids are at home and some schools in America have decided that they're just going to throw kids into the classroom and hope for the best, sort of like The Hunger Games, except instead of money, you get no grandparents.

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Now, President Trump has demanded that all schools open up as normal, and he's even threatening to withhold federal funding from schools that refuse. So just to one on the same page, he won't touch the police, but he'll defend the shit out of schools like this agreement. Everybody wants schools to reopen. The question is, can it be done safely? And the problem is it doesn't seem like the federal government knows how to make that happen. For instance, here's has divorce secretary of Education and your new stepmom who immediately sent you to fat camp trying to explain the administration's plan.

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What are experts telling you about the appropriate level of transmission for a school before it has to shut down?

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Well, I know that that's an area that the CDC is helping to provide further insight into. I can't as a nonphysician or non medical expert, tell you precisely what to do in the case of one child in a classroom or five child children in a classroom to be able to be clear. Are you saying that areas there flare up, that schools should revert to remote learning?

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I'm saying that schools should have plans.

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Like I truly don't understand how this bailout for airlines free money for the banks. But when it comes to schools that just like here's a can of lifestyle, good luck. I'll be honest at this point, I don't understand why anybody is a teacher in America. You're underpaid, you're overworked. You have to deal with school shootings. And now this like, I don't know, maybe Bitsie, the bosses master plan is to just hope that the school shooters kill the coronavirus.

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And the problem is just cancel each other out because I don't understand what else she's thinking. America can't just open schools because other countries have open schools. Those countries got coronavirus under control. First one comes because of the other. It's like when I was growing up, I really wanted Jordan's, I really wanted Jordan's. But I didn't realize that all my friends had Jordan's because their parents had disposable income. I didn't understand the link. So that didn't stop me from trying to have what my friends had.

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And you know what happened? I kept on pushing and pushing. And for my birthday I got a pair of Gaudens, the official shoe of Gordon Ramsay. For more on how to reopen schools, I'm joined by a man who's been repeatedly fired as a substitute teacher, Michael Costa. What's going on, Costa?

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It's great drama. It took me a month, but I finally got rid of all those fireworks. I had laddering.

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So wait, that was you. Dude, I couldn't sleep. You know what, we're going to talk about this later, but right now the big issue in America is how can the country reopen schools safely?

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Well, the good news, Trevor, is that I have a solution that works out for everybody. OK, so check this out. One, we know parents want their kids out of the house. And two, we know children are less susceptible to Korona. So why don't we solve both problems at once? Let's send children to work at meatpacking plants. Think about it. The kids stay busy and we get all the chicken nuggets that God blessed us with.

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You're welcome.

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Hold on. You want children to spend the school day, Meat-packing? So you're trying to bring back child labor, please, Trever, child labor never went away, we just outsourced it to different countries. I want to bring those American jobs back home.

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Respectfully, I don't think you can just eliminate the school system. Why not? You only go to school so you can get a job. I'm cutting out the middleman. Think about all the successful people that dropped out of school. Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Brad Pitt. Yeah, but.

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But they dropped out of college, not second grade.

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Can you imagine how much more successful they would be if they just would have dropped out earlier?

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But the kids won't be learning anything. That's not true. You can learn everything that you learned in school at a meatpacking plant, finding out where the T bone is. That's biology. Learning how much antibiotics a cow can take before it dies. That's chemistry. How about some math problems? If Timmy is boxing ground beef at ten boxes a minute, how many warnings does it take before we fire slow? Asked him how many? None, because I caught Timmy talking to a union organizer.

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You're fired, Timmy. Pack up your shit by OK cost.

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Not only is this idea despicable, it will never work.

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On the contrary, Trevor, I'm running a pilot program right now. I got my neighbors kids pack and me as we speak, and I got so much meat I don't even know what to do with a man pulla. I got to go. It sounds like Mason got his overalls stuck in the meat grinder again. I'm gonna call you back. Mason, you're OK. Just break, buddy.

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Michael Costa, everybody. I'm definitely reporting him. All right. When we come back, I'll be talking to the winner of the twenty sixteen popular vote, Hillary Clinton.

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Check it out.

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Secretary Clinton, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.

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Well, I'm social distancing in my house, and it's great to talk to you today to genuinely.

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A lot of the time I find myself wondering, just like what you're doing and where you are as a human being, because I know if I was in your position, I would spend most of my time tweeting. I told you so. And then I would be like I would walk around the streets just looking at people saying it could have been me, it could have been me. So what do you do? I genuinely would like to know, what do you do?

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Oh, well, you know, before the lockdown, I was doing all of that. I mean, there's probably go find it or maybe I'll help you. You know, for the last what how many months I've been at, how much marks like everybody else. And I've done a lot of walking in the woods. One of my favorite things to do, I've done a lot of reading and some writing. This was the big year that we were going to be celebrating the 100th anniversary of American women finally getting the right to vote and working to support the groups that I helped support through my organization Onward Together.

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And then I get to spend time with my grandchildren, which I have to say is the biggest silver lining Treva, that you can imagine during this very difficult time. So, you know, I don't know what I do all day, but I'm exhausted every day. I feel like that's everyone in Corona.

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We're all we're all tired. And we don't we don't really know why. I do know that you've been really active in having your voice heard. One of the biggest things you've been passionate about is voting. It seems like America is on an ominous path to a November date when there's going to be a lot of questions in and around the election. Donald Trump is vigilantly against mail in voting. What do you make of this and what do you think the path should be to getting people the easiest access to casting their votes?

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Republicans have two prongs to their strategy to try to win. The first is try to prevent as many people who they think won't vote for them from voting. So you don't make the lines really long where young people vote or African-Americans vote or Hispanics vote. Try to make vote by mail as difficult as possible. Claymates fraudulent when indeed it's not. In fact, that's how Donald Trump votes. And everybody who knows about vote by mail understands that. And so I've been working with a group called Democracy Dockett, led by the lawyer Marc Elias, to help support the lawsuits that are being brought around the country just to make the vote available, to make it clear that, look, let's have a fair election.

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And that means let as many people who are eligible citizens to go vote.

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Are you at all concerned about irregularities in voting or fraud? I mean, for instance, we saw the case in New Jersey, I think it was a few weeks ago now where ironically, it was some councilman who I think was was changing the votes in Republicans favor. Is there a part of you that that is worried that Donald Trump would be able to use any of those stories to try and undermine the entire election and say, you see, there's that one, there's that one?

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I don't think we should trust this election at all because it says that I've lost.

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Well, I think it is a fair point to race as to whether or not if he loses, he's going to go quietly or not. And we have to be ready for that. But there have been so many academic studies and other analyses which point out that it's just a it's an inaccurate, fraudulent claim. There isn't that problem. All the games that are played in all of the photo I.D. and any kind of restriction that can be imposed to try to keep the vote down in places that aren't going to vote for Republicans, that's the real danger to the integrity of our election.

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That combined with misinformation and disinformation and all of the online shenanigans that we saw in twenty sixteen. So I'm look, I want a fair election. If people get to vote and they for whatever reason, vote for Donald Trump, OK, we'll accept it. Not happily, but I don't think that's what will happen because I think the more people who can actually get to the polls, whether by mail or in person and get their votes counted, then we are going to have the kind of election we should have and then it'll be a win both in the popular vote and in the Electoral College.

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You are the star and subject of a docu series on who? And for many people. I think maybe even myself included, I saw a side of you that was refreshing and different, and for lack of a better term, you had a swag about you that not many people knew you had. You know, do you feel more free or is that is that just captured? Well, in the documentary, is that part of you that goes like, you know what, I'm free, screw, screw, whatever?

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Yeah, there is there's really a big part of that. And and the documentary, you know, I was interviewed for thirty five hours and why. Yeah. And my feeling once I agreed to do the project was this is it. I, you know, I'm not running for anything. I'm going to just say it like it is the best I can. And a lot of people have said what you've said, my gosh, I never saw that side of her or whatever.

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And so I I know that the pressures of being in public life and being misunderstood and being subjected to the attacks and the criticism, I know that it probably made me a little less available and open and probably a little hunkered down, if you will. And my life is a little bit like a Rorschach test where, you know, people who are comfortable with women seeking and holding power or being outspoken see it and think, oh, my gosh. Well, yeah, of course.

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And then people who aren't, maybe they'll begin to think differently about that.

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And many women have said that. They've said Hillary Clinton got further and did more than I ever dared to think was possible. If there's if there's another Hillary out there who's running and beginning her journey, what would you warn her about or tell her to try and look out for? To just give her a little advantage in a world where she desperately needs it.

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You will be criticized no matter what you do. And so take criticism seriously because sometimes your critics actually can teach you something. But don't take it personally. Don't let it eat away at you. Don't let it knock you down and keep you down. The women who I admire that Chelsea and I wrote that book about gutsy women are women who are not just in it for themselves. Whatever it is that motivates you have something bigger than yourself that is going to get you up in the morning and keep going because it can be brutal out there.

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It can be incredibly difficult. You're going to be called a nasty woman, for heaven's sakes. So what you've got to do is just believe not just in yourself alone, but in what you're trying to do for others. And that will keep you motivated no matter what.

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Don't go away, because when we come back, we'll have more of this interview with Secretary Clinton.

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Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show, here is more of my interview with Hillary Clinton. Let me ask you this question is, are you now ready to wear a mask now that Donald Trump has finally put one on? I'm assuming you just haven't been wearing one waiting for this moment.

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Yeah, no, I mean, I've actually been wearing one, and I think, you know, better late than never, I guess. My daughter had a great tweet which I retweeted where she said, look, I'm not being sarcastic. If he would sell masks with his face on him and go ahead and make the money, at least it would send a good message. So now that he has been seen once in a mask, maybe those people who still take their cues from him will similarly start wearing masks because we're in a desperate situation again, Trevor.

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I mean, look, I mean, Florida, if it were an individual country right now, would have the fourth highest rate in the world after the overall US and Brazil, India. So, you know, we are a long way from getting this under control.

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But there's no denying that every country, once they got an idea of what the coronavirus was, handled it differently. When you look back at the way America handled it, once people understood how severe this was, where do you think President Trump went wrong or where do you think a good president would have done something differently?

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Well, I think you have to start with President Trump's total hostility towards science, evidence, facts, logic, reason. He is a showman. He is a reality TV star. He likes to try to bend reality to suit his own preferences. And he clearly started hearing about this back in January through intelligence briefings that either read or he didn't read. But even before that, he had disbanded the unit within the National Security Council that would try to get ahead of and follow the development of pandemics abroad.

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He had really made it clear that he was more interested in the optics than the facts when the virus first hit. And he kept saying, you know, we have 15 cases, it'll be over soon. So you've got to begin and end with his total lack of leadership, his indifference toward what this virus has cost us not only in lives, but in jobs and livelihoods. And then now, of course, he doesn't want to hear from our leading infectious disease experts like Dr.

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Fauci. He doesn't want to hold the even the sham of the meetings that he used to hold to try to talk about it. He's hoping that it either goes away or it leaves our attention span so that he can get back to pretending to be president.

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You you very rightfully call him a showman. I mean, that's something we all acknowledge. Donald Trump has an uncanny ability to put on a show and just really suck all of the attention that the media wants to give him. There has to be a part of you that I guess is is a little angry at that because, I mean, when you're running for president, a lot of it in America specifically is about putting on the show. Do you do sometimes wish there was a like a like a test that you would have to write?

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Is this some because you're sitting at home and you have so many of these answers and you've studied so hard, but really, you got you got beaten by a showman who just knew how to win the ratings. How do you feel about that when you see what America is going through now?

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Well, it breaks my heart because I tried to warn people during the campaign that he was not fit for the office. He wasn't prepared for the office, that his his his appeals to the basest instincts among us was really setting us up for even more divisiveness. And then I saw it literally from the inauguration forward. I take no pleasure in that because, look, I want to root for America. I want to root for anybody who's our president. It's just hard to see what he's done to the office, his undermining of our institutions, his his absolute disregard for the rule of law.

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And I think you're right that it is it's painful for me. But I think for many Americans who expected better, even people who voted for him expected him to rise to the job. And increasingly that has become, you know, just impossible to expect any longer.

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I have to ask you about Roger Stone. Help me understand. A, why do presidents or should presidents have the power to pardon anybody, especially someone who's related to them in a case? And secondly, what precedent could Trump be setting for America? Do you think it's going to be a precedent where a president says, I will pardon anybody who protects me by not snitching?

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Well, I think you just summed up why Roger Stone was pardoned. I mean, he basically threatened Trump. You know, he basically said, I sure don't want to go to jail. And I sure have a lot more to say. And, well, I just wish there would be somebody who could stop me from having to go to jail. And guess what? Trump intervened. This is an extension of the total disregard for the rule of law.

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The pardon power is supposed to be used for compassionate purposes to try to right wrongs, to try to make sure that people are not being punished unfairly or have been punished enough. And in this case, it's a continuation of the cover up, because the one thing that Trump is fearful of when it comes to his being president is that finally we will see how illegitimate his victory actually was and how he was involved in the seeking of foreign help and then the utilization of it and how Roger Stone was critical to that.

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But, you know, unless Trump is defeated at the polls in November, we will never really know everything there is to know about this really deep, ongoing dismantling of institutions and undermining the rule of law and the original sin of the way that he actually won the election. So Roger Stone was in the middle of it all, and that's why Trump had to cover it up.

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Well, Secretary Clinton, thank you so much for taking the time today. I hope you enjoy the gardening, your walks in the woods, and hopefully you'll be back out in the streets saying, I told you so sooner than later.

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I look forward to that, Trever, and stay healthy and stay safe yourself. We'll do.

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Thank you very much. Thank you so much again for that, Secretary Clinton. That's our show for tonight. But before we go, America is facing a nationwide poll worker shortage, and it's because most poll workers are over 60. And with covid still in the air, they are understandably not showing up. But fewer poll workers means fewer polling stations are going to be open and it means longer lines that not everybody can afford to stay and waiting, especially people of color in working class areas.

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But the good news is most people working as paid. And in some states you can be as young as 16 to do it. So if you're interested and you have the time to be a poll worker and we have the time to increase the chances of a democracy succeeding, this is your chance to save granny, protect your democracy and get paid. Sign up at the link below to learn more until tomorrow. Stay safe out there and wear a mask like the president.

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