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Tony has proclaimed and I don't know who else has done this because this was a season of great expectations. Tony has proclaimed and I don't know if he's first. The New York Knicks are cooked. Cooked. That you can watch Boston and Cleveland play and know that that team can't beat those two teams. And that's. It's stark to see because when New York, when the Knicks had Mitchell Robinson, they destroyed the Cleveland front court in a way that took me totally off guard. The changes between those two franchises when the Knicks have indeed elevated to see Cleveland elevate that much more, where you're like holy shit, Boston's having all sorts of trouble keeping up with Cleveland. Like, I don't know if it's just because Mobley's usage rate is something that they're working around more, but the New York Knicks have a better team than they've had. This team is better than the last two Brunson led teams. Like I'd rather have Karl Anthony Towns and Bridges and this kind of offense, but they're not as good as the top of their conference. That part is. That part's obvious. It's not just that they have some problems at home.

Those two teams, Cleveland and Boston look better than them.

Dan, the Knicks are officially cooked.

Confirming.

Thank you.

Here's the thing, right? They're 07 against the top teams between OKC and the two teams in the east being Boston and Cleveland. They got spanked by, by, by. Boston got spanked by Cleveland. The issue is this. They have an elite offense between Jalen Brunson, between Carl Anthony Townes, who's been playing amazing Bridges, Hart, all these guys are very good on offense. Their problem has been defensively, Karl Anthony Towns might be the worst defender in the NBA. They're drop coveraging on everybody. No, no. Like statistically, if you look up some of the advanced stats on Karl Anthony Towns, he is legitimately the worst defender in the NBA. So when you have guys like Porzingis, when you have guys like Mobley just in the east that are going to give him trouble, it's like this Knicks team was supposed to be built to beat those teams. They're what, 38 and 19, 38 and 20, whatever they are right now, and they are not even close.

I don't know how many people do sort of the defensive metrics required to understand what Gobert was doing for Karl Anthony Towns in Minnesota. That made well, but made that the best Minnesota team of my lifetime. Minnesota has fallen back, at least in part because they can't pair those two guys together anymore, and they had to just get out from under salary like Minnesota. How often do you see that in today's day and age where a team doesn't feel like it could keep its best team together in basketball? Because it can't. Because Carl Anthony Towns got traded and all of us were like, we know he's a very nice player, and that's exactly the kind of player that New York would want. But also, that's a hell of a lot of money, and I think he's a number two.

Well, we just saw Dallas do it with Luka. So, like, that's kind of the most extreme example where they're like, I don't know if we can keep this team together with Luka going forward as our supermax player. But when you look at some of the stuff that Gobert was taking off the plate of, of Carl Anthony Towns, he was able to kind of make him into a three where he didn't have to really worry about playing defense. Now, if you're the anchor of a defense like Hartenstein was a couple of years ago, where you let him walk and then you're waiting on Robinson that way. That's how you say it.

I know. I love that you did.

Thank you. So you're hoping that Mitchell Robinson, who hasn't played in two seasons, is this is the lifeline that's going to save the defense that Tom Thibodeau like, puts his hat on.

It's like Mitchell Robinson, who Mike Ryan calls trash.

I mean, I don't even remember the last time I thought about that guy.

You do remember the last time you.

Thought about probably about two. Two years ago. Two years ago. I haven't seen him since. Looks like the warriors are playing well, though.

Oh, well, let's talk about this for a second, because I mentioned the other day that Steph Curry hasn't had somebody who goes and gets the Dirty Stu free throws that Jimmy Butler does to slow the game down, and he just hasn't had that in his lifetime. And now you have Draymond Green guaranteeing a championship, and this is early for this one to happen. I don't know. Have you guys seen this? Stephen A. Smith has said the Jimmy Butler trade that he dismissed as a nothing trade. He has tweeted, I may have been wrong.

Whoa.

It's been only five or six games. Only five or six games. And now he threatens to be wrong both times because he's willing to walk back based on the strength of six performances.

Because they're four and one since, and.

They'Re blowing people out. It's not.

They just destroyed Dallas.

They're. They're winning. They're winning easily. But it's five or six games and. And you're talking about. They're getting into the 130s and 1-40s, and the game looks like it's being made easier for Steph. That's interesting to watch, right? Because when. I don't know if. When you were watching the warriors, if all of us, to the eye, could tell how or where clay was slowing, I don't know where the prime of careers are anymore. Because Ovechkin doing this at 39 is wildly confusing to me. Three goals yesterday. He's going to break a record I never thought was broken. He's 39 years old. How is any of that possible?

He's going to do it in a season where he missed extended periods of time. It's unbelievable what Ovechkin said.

I can't understand how all of aging has changed in sports that makes it so that I would think that Jimmy Butler going in there at that age isn't going to have all that much left in the tank. But maybe 35, with all that mileage, Thibodeau mileage, just all the mileage on that body, maybe there is something there that Golden State has not had as it tries, the final furnace of fumes that there are on Draymond Green, on whatever all of that, is that Jimmy Butler can bring something to that team it hasn't had.

I think that's the part that you're hoping Draymond can somehow recapture a little bit of his old Draymond ways, because you've got Steph, who now can kind of take a step back, let Jimmy take some of the offensive load off of him. The problem is they're a really small team. If you look around like who the warriors have. It's like, how are you going to compete with the big teams out west that have Jokic, that have like a Gobert inside? There's just too much where the warriors are like, all right, we're going to just play small ball and Draymond hopefully can recapture something, but if not, get us a bucket.

When you're looking at these storylines in that sport and the young people are still vying for what has been LeBron and Steph's throne, you guys saw the stat that since 2020, LeBron is over 21 on game winning or game tying shots at the end of the game. Since 2020, over 21 at the end of games. Because they're somewhere. The oldest player in the league has to age even as he's putting up 40 points and triple doubles. And they're still really good. There's this. And Luca finally has a game yesterday where you're saying to yourself, okay, that looks like something resembling Luca. But you guys don't think that the Lakers can do anything against OKC, do you? You don't like when you're looking at OKC putting up a point differential of 13 points a game. Nobody's looking at that team and saying, I don't trust them because I haven't seen them do it yet. They're too young, right?

Well, to be fair, I'm not looking at all. But what I will say is, over the last couple of years, as load management and the treatment of stars to avoid injury has continued to increase throughout the league, we've had pretty shocking results in the playoffs. You've seen teams not take the regular season so seriously and it's made the playoffs a little bit more unpredictable because you can't account for what the max effort of these teams looks like. Golden State is a prime example of that because they're playing well right now because Jimmy's feels like trying. I haven't really seen Jimmy try in quite some time.

Joy is back.

He grabbed the clipboard and started drawing plays in the huddle. Like when was the last time he did that?

It's just a variable that is hard to account for. You're just essentially guessing now when they enter the playoffs and free throws are harder to come by. But the clips that I'm seeing of him, I mean, he's doing the pull up J's in transition. Like it looks like the way when Jimmy's game is really cooking, it looks like that. I don't know if it can sustain one of the great playoff performance of our time. That was really well said.

One, one of the things that I think that we can agree on is that Steph Curry is going to make the game easier for him, and he will make the game easier for Steph Curry, and I would imagine would enjoy the lightened load of being the second best player on a team because he doesn't have to be used the same way. It's not quite as exhausting. And so I don't want to underestimate that he's playing with the greatest shooter any of us have ever seen who's distorted all of the basketball. And one of the reasons that they look so good is because, holy shit, Steph looks so good playing with that guy, because of how you pair those two things. Where Jimmy, we all know he's a savant. He's not LeBron in terms of wherever brilliance is, but clearly he knows something about how to play basketball that is helpful to a lot of different people if they can withstand the furnace that his temper is.

I think the big difference is that Jimmy Butler accepts with understanding that he's the second best player on his new team and he never could in Miami. In Miami, he's like, I'm the alpha dog. I'm not. I'm not going to take a second fiddle to Tyler Herro. I'm Jimmy Butler. Now he's got Steph Curry. He's got no choice but to say, yep, he's better than me. I'm happy to do what I'm doing.

I want to ask you guys, though, because all of the star power in this sport is going to change. You've got over the weekend two injuries that are pretty substantive. The Philadelphia thing seems to be something that is going to lose Darryl Morey the ability to get another job the way that that blew out where Joel Embiid is now, you know, he's owed over the next four seasons, $250 million. And it would appear that all of the pressures involved in getting him back out there are something that derailed his progress yet again. So the process is sort of R.A. this guy. And then you've got Wembanyama out for the season as well because of blood clots and the size of these human beings and what they're being asked to do around and during load management. Like, there are things involved here with what the wear and tear on the body is that make it so that we're like, where's Kawhi Leonard? I don't know where Kawhi Leonard. Oh, the whole mystery doctor thing. That made him change teams all over the place. Because it is kind of. We're in agreement now that the science has made it so.

Whether you agree with load management or not, we now all understand that the athletes and their training staffs are all telling you these bodies need more conditioning than we're being allowed to have.

Well, with Joel, that has always been part of the criticism. You have a fragile body. You entered the league as someone with an injury risk. That was, that was how they were evaluating him as a prospect. This is a risky proposition. So the fact that he's had a fragile career, when you apply that context is really not a surprise. Where people get on Joel and where I think it's fair is on top of all these things that we're worried about you, your frame, your injury history, don't you want to put your body in the best possible position to withstand the beating of this sport? And optically and attitude wise, and by some reporting, he doesn't have that kind of commitment to his body.

Billy, why are you smiling?

Because I love the Internet. Sometimes you just stumble across things. We're talking about the NBA. You're talking about Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, the Clippers, all of that Jazz, not the Utah Jazz, but you're talking about all that terrible. And I found on this website called putabounty.com in Spanish it would be a totally different website, but it's called the WOJ Collection. And you can go on there and you can bid on things like the iPhone used to break Paul George Kawaida, L.A. clippers News the iPhone used to break NBA suspending season because of COVID iPhone. Many different credentials are here also. And I would, I would never, I would never suggest that someone does this. Proceeds, by the way, go to St. Von Bonaventure. I would never suggest that someone does this. But his Disney ID is listed on there, his ESPN Disney ID badge. And when we were at Disney. She shouldn't say we were at Disney. That badge would get you free parking at the parks. Which now is like just flashing $35. Yeah, it was just like, show me the badge. Thank you. They'd say, welcome home. Which is always very welcome. Welcome home.

And you're like, oh, I'm home. Oh, we work here. And then like you'd go in and you'd save like $35. I have not done it since I've left, so I don't know if that is something that still works or not. I don't know if any of my coworkers here are Bold enough to tell us that they've done this or not, but $250 could get you free parking at Disney for life.

I just need to understand more details. Is Woj selling some of his personal memorabilia in order to raise money as part of fundraising for his new venture as general manager of the Bonnie?

Yeah, you got it.

That is correct.

You understood it.

How many personal effects? How many of these are Darren Revell going to scoop up?

Ooh, can we find out what some of the prices are on so I.

Can tell you all the prices? What do you want to know? The. The Paul George Kawhi to the Clippers phone is currently being offered for $350. You could buy all of which stuff if you wanted to. NBA suspending the season due to Covid. $525 is the high right now.

That's a big phone.

Now, his 2023 NBA draft credential dinner, also known as the WEMBY draft. $200, right?

What's dinner with?

That just says limited available. Let's click it here. Oh, the offer price right now, it doesn't say, but the example is $2,000 to have dinner with Wolf.

He's picking up the tab, right?

It's unclear.

I think you're picking up.

Well, okay, hold on.

Can you give this. We should get that for Amin.

Hold on a second. Because all of these. All of these have offer prices. So, like his 2024 NBA draft credential, which many of you might say. 2024 NBA draft credential? Why would I want that? Well, because that was Woj's final draft. So this is a piece of basketball history here. And the clearance levels that he had were FLV 2 and 4. So I think we all know what that means. Now here is the offer. It's suggesting $2,000 if you want to make an offer. However, the high offer right now is $500, so we haven't reached it. There's eight days left if you guys want to support the Bonnies.

How do you verify what the phone is, though? Is there a text on there saying, like, Paul George, is it done?

Is there, like, Dangerous Game?

So you're saying that someone would be lying about the iPhone used for the 2023?

I'm just saying how you verify that?

Was the Wendy draft saying?

I'm not. You're saying that.

Okay, hold on a second.

Don't do that.

Now, here's a phone that you might want the iPhone use for Farewell tweet and final NBA draft. $500 for that one. Right now, that is the. That's the high. Oh, you can also get a video call with woj. There's lots of treasures on here. Wow.

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Don LeBatard I heard that as a woman faking pain, I didn't think that sounded real. I really didn't.

You know, it was not fake. It was in no way fake.

You can spot a woman faking it.

Stugats.

Yes, I can. Jess Expert have been married 40 years.

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stool guards.

Are any of the personal effects as good as the one that Greg Cody brought in today? Because I will tell you that last week I thought one of the show highlights was Chris Cody going into the back row and being someone who maniacally squeezed juice until he got orange juice almost half a glass heroically. Today, his father has brought in and we famously cut his hair here months ago. He didn't like the haircut. We got it professionally cut. One of Tony's friends, my barber, my personal barber, Dan.

I like the haircut.

No, you didn't.

That was good.

You didn't.

I just didn't like having to borrow 20 bucks to tip the guy, you know.

You didn't like the haircut that much. Your wife didn't like the haircut that much. It's okay. It was a good haircut. But you didn't like that. It was that close. Yes, Earlene, that's correct.

Didn't like the haircut. It was a good haircut.

You look 20 years younger.

Thank you. But Greg Cody has brought in today and I did not know that this was something that he had in his arsenal, a personal haircut kit. And so are we going to cut his hair with his personal haircut kit to see if his haircut. If he can do this. He's scared. He's a little bit proud of his hair and he's scared of going home to Orlean with a haircut that looks ridiculous. Are we going to try to do this live?

Well, we need a volunteer.

Who? What do you need?

I mean, I need someone who is going to volunteer. I can't do it myself.

Right, but who would you like? Would you like to select whoever it is who's going to do this?

I would like to volunteer from anyone in the studio who has been a barber.

Look around the room, like just based off our look.

Greg, this is one of the worst ideas yet.

Do you see the kid support or.

Has hair stylists Would you please support.

Greg Cody on a Greg Cody Monday? I don't need you saying this being the spot where you decide that you're going to say no.

I just, there's long term implications here. When Stu got shaved his head it took. Well that's true lifelong for some.

Okay, so this is just, all this is, is just. I mean it's not. I thought it was going to be something other than a. But this is just something it was going to be. Oh, I don't know.

But think someone would pop out of there like hello, I'm here to cut a hair.

I just thought that it's a self shaving kit, you could do this for yourself. It's supposed to be something that you're doing for yourself.

It's impossible to do it yourself. Well, hold on because then you'd be going like this.

Hold on a second. I think I can help you, Greg, because Roy has told us that he shaves his own head. Roy gives himself his own haircuts. So Roy's used this equipment before.

Yeah, but I shaved my head. He's not going to want a bald head.

Well, he didn't say no.

I want to start with a one or a two on the side and.

That'S a lot by the way. One is what I have.

One is really short.

Okay, this start with a two or a three.

A little higher.

Remember the fade is the word you use.

The fade faded up. I need a fade.

Somebody to give you a fade type thing. I'll call my boy Lucas, we'll bring him back.

All right, we're going to do this. I need the payoff now. Now somebody's got to do this. We got to get somebody back there like I get. We can't bring this up as content, have the kid out here and then just bail on it. Now we've got to do it.

We're all kitten caboodle.

We're in too deep. I did also want to say to Greg Cody, who does do do stop fiddling.

Thank you.

A lot of good work around here just to get promotion for his podcast. The Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody has a lot of nostalgia in it. And this week because they do nothing better than self involvement, they are Reviewing the top 100 guests in show history. I'm stunned to hear that they've had 100 guests.

Sure. We've had like 138. So if you don't make the top 100, that's on you, not me.

You want the bottom 38, that's the good stuff.

That's going to be on the next episode. We're previewing it a little. We talk about it a little.

Wouldn't it be easier to see who didn't make the cut than to see who did? You're doing the top 100 guests in the history of the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cod looking in.

We want, when Hal Habib comes on to be, like, now Joining us, the 82nd most popular guest in show history, Hal Habit.

How did you rank these personal feelings?

We actually did it mathematically. Christopher and I and Yeti each had a ballot of 138 names, and beside each name, we put five. Three or one. One is somebody that we don't even remember him being on the show. Three is somebody we're sort of waffling. Five big star.

Why don't you just do one, two, three?

I'm gonna be honest. I voted. Everyone in here has been on the show. A lot of threes in this room. I was gonna three.

I was gonna guess even numbers if.

It was like, if you're on this show, is that a guest or you're just, like, now you're friends with, you know, the show?

So that I want to cover the math of what it is that we're talking about here. Okay. In the history of the show, he has had 138 guests. So all he's doing here is eliminating 38 of the guests. Correct. Only 38 are being eliminated. So this is. There are a lot of people making the late cut here who probably weren't very good. Unless you think that Greg Cody and his son and Yeti. Would you please stop opening that loudly. Unless you think that it works. Unless you think that they have batted 100 out of 138 on great guests.

Batting 100 is bad.

Well, 100 out of 138 is not batting 100.

I was told we were all threes in this room, which is not great.

Oh, that. That's all.

The threes are making it.

That's proprietary information.

All. All the threes are making it. What do you mean it's proprietary information? The podcast is out it.

No, that's next week's episode.

We're previewing the topic.

You broke the news. You leaked it.

I'm sorry.

It's gonna be pissed.

No, Furman's not on it.

Confirming everybody.

Very abrupt trail.

Everybody who makes the list, there's a reason for it.

That was a hastily produced. The confirming needed more echo. How do you not hear the confirming needs to be basier Confirming. How do you not hear.

Keep going. The trail should still be.

You hear that so poorly that you don't understand how much funnier confirming would be if it echoed for nine seconds.

Confirming.

No, that's not good enough.

His voice only gets so deep.

Like, how do we not have somebody in the other room who could give us the voice we need to put a little funny in this confirming?

It's going to be Baso Profondo.

Do you know how much better. Roy, Roy, show them how it's done. Please go into the other room. Don't do it now. Don't do it live. I will not put the pressure on you. Now close the segment, go into the other room and make a better confirming than that. Using a voice that is. That is funnier than the one.

I want a 15 second trail and.

Cut Greg's hair away while you're at it.

Somebody else helped me with the cutting of Greg Cody's hair. Greg, the top guest in show history. Was it tough to come by? Who. Who was number one?

We haven't. We haven't determined the list yet.

I can, I can. No, no, I can reveal. We voted. There were about 20 people that got consensus fives from all of us. So the top 20 all got consensus five. So we're going to have to order those and that will be revealed this week.

Is this just on the podcast or does this include when we had like the fortune teller whatever on the 24 Hour Marathon?

This includes any appearance. If you send in a video clip to us, if we played you on the show, if we've hyped you in any kind of description, then yes. Like we had Lionel Messi.

Yeah, yeah.

He was on briefly what was like his translator. Like we've translated something Messi said and.

Right, right. That's. You know, I think he got ones and threes. I'm not sure if.

Okay, but again, some ones and threes are gonna live because you're only. They're only eliminating 38, though. So there is somebody who's gonna make the top 101 as.

Like, I don't think Charlie Chaplin's gonna make it. We had a guy named Charlie Chaplin.

You know what? I voted him a 5. I don't know about the rest of you. He was great.

We also had a Greg Cody on and a guy named Greg.

Another five.

Yes. We also had a Greg Lobo.

We also had a snuggler anymore.

Well, hold on a second. How are you guys revealing this just all on one episode? Are you. Yes.

Next week's episode. Not the one that came in today.

I've told him we should do 10 at a time.

Yes.

100 through 91. You know, that type thing that's open.

To debate, you know.

Okay, that's a big one.

Sunday to decide if you want to make this last one episode or ten.

That's correct.

As with all of the great art made throughout history, there will be much eternal debate about who should have been number one confirming and how. How high Gary the bag got up on the list of the guests in the history of the show. Will he make it Featuring Greg Cody. Have any of you watched the we.

With but thank you.

Who was on this week?

This week we. We dive inside. There's a. There was a bachelor party within my family not to name anyone who might be getting married like my younger son Michael. So we talk about the bachelor party. I, I have. I reveal number 20 in my new top 20 list of all time greatest.

Herbs herb of the week.

So number 20 you can reveal the number 20 was. No, I don't want to. Herb.

Dean, you gotta get it.

Whoa, relax.

You gotta get over it.

There are two countdowns at the same time.

Rosemary.

No, next week's.

Next week's countdown. 100 guests. This week's is the.

Yeah, but he only gives us one herb a week.

Right.

It was both to stop you and also submit a nominee.

20 favorite herbs.

Right? Yeah.

Come on, give him number 20. It'll be a nice teaser for next week.

No, I don't want to do it.

You're only by number 20.

They started starting it.

They starting it.

So next week's episode is the 100 best guests and the number 19th herb.

Yes, that's correct. Yeah.

Just so you know, the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody.

It's a great show.

Yeah. By the way, second thoughts on this.

On the. On the buzzer buzzer for the audio podcast.

First of all, it says oil blades before using. I have no oil.

Second, Greg, why did you bring this in if we weren't going to do it? Like, what's the point?

You're the one who unhoused it it from the box.

What.

But you brought in.

You brought it in and you put it in on the desk and, and I thought we were gonna do something.

Sir told me to bring the box in. Did I suggest we do anything with it? I didn't know. I didn't know whether someone would volunteer to touch my head. And quite frankly, now I look at this and the biggest, the biggest. Whatever you call these things, the biggest one is 1 inch okay, it's 18 inch, 1 quarter, 3 8, 1 half, 5 8, 3 quarters, 7 8, and 1 inch. So the biggest is 1 inch. So I can't use this.

Well, 1 inch is. Is long for the side.

Yeah, it is for the side.

Yeah.

Tony, you said you're. You had a one.

The one doesn't have one inch.

One is like the shortest.

Oh, okay. So one is the longest.

Yeah.

I think the way you do this is you work lowest number to highest number when you're doing it. So, like, you start shaving it like an eighth of an inch and then you work your way up to 1.

I totally misread this. What are you.

He's putting it up against his face with audio.

You didn't oil that.

Yeah.

Be careful.

Have you guys seen the We Beat the Dream Team documentary on.

I've heard of it and I've heard good things.

Let me just tell you some of the good things because I'm a little bit stunned that in 2025 we still eat up the Michael Jordan mythology. Okay, so the We Beat the Dream Team documentary reveals a handful of things, including Coach K alleging that Chuck Daly purposely threw the scrimmage where the college kids beat the greatest team there's ever been. Magic and Michael. Among the revelations in this is that Michael and Magic were on the bench during this game when it happened. But one of the things that was mentioned that continues to improve the mythology of Michael Jordan, even as LeBron James is still putting up 40 points sometimes as a 40 year old at breathing.

Sounds like there's an oscillating fan in this.

He got winded just giving those fractions. It was just one eight, seven, eight, six, eight. He got tired getting to about four or five eighths. He just got tired the time.

And every time Dan finished the sentence.

He's been breathing heavy since then. It was just listing the eighths that got it. Do you realize how out of shape you have to be to get winded just listing 8 fractions?

I'm not winded. Roy told me to keep the mic close to my mouth, which is what I'm doing. I'm doing a little thing called breathing. It's a big part of life. And so what's the alternative? You want me to hold my breath for the rest of the show?

I don't. But when I'm talking about Michael Jordan and suffocating somebody. Allen Houston talked about the next day after they beat Michael Jordan. And Jamal Mashburn tells this story. He says Michael Jordan comes out and says he's not going to get his hands over his shoulders today for a shot. Alan Houston is going to come out here and he's not going to get his hands over his shoulders. And Jamal Ashburn is looking at us, at the camera. He's like, this is the day I question whether I could be a pro. Alan Houston never got his hands over his shoulders in the next practice. I was watching. And so they continue to create the mythology around Michael Jordan, even while telling you a bunch of college kids beat it.

So I don't have to see it anymore.

Yeah. Spoiler alert.

Did I ruin it for everybody?

Nah, I'll get around to it. You know, still have to watch Conclave.

Well, you, you recommended something. I will tell you something I have not done before that arrived the other day. At 56 years old, it's not a life or a feeling that I've had in my life. At Saturday morning at 7am My dark princess of a wife decides Nosferatu is what she wants to watch an artistic masterpiece. Like just beautifully romantic and haunting and totally creepy.

Did you like it?

Yes, I did. Well, yeah, I liked it. But I, I would say I like it just because you're being transported to a different, like just a weird time with how it is that they're doing all darkness.

Well, that's how Robert Eggers gets down in terms of being able to transport you to another world. No one really wraps you in it.

Quite like he does the, the romance of it though. And I don't think Greg Cody, when's the last time you saw a movie of any kind? It's just aggressive. 7am on a Saturday is aggressive. To welcome that kind of gold, that.

Means you saw Count orlocks dick around 7:45. Yeah, it's too early to see Count Orlok's dick.

Have you read anything though, about. It's a Sarsgaard that does the role of Orlok and you would never know it from.

This one's Bill watching.

Yeah, but the voice work on that. And the length that he went to to personify evil with his voice was like. Was an actor as an artist really trying to get something right in the name of like. Like what I think most people would just dismiss as a vampire movie.

What'd you think of the mustache?

No facial hair. No facial.

It kind of boils down to did you like the mustache or not? For a lot of folks. And most people don't like the mustache, but the mustache look, in Bram Stoker's Dracula, Dracula has a mustache. It's referenced to a couple of times. If you want to be a nobleman from the 1600s, any respectable one had a mustache. A lot of people could not look past this.

So did Roncula.

You guys think that I don't think of Dracula or vampires as having mustaches. I don't believe anybody.

You were a nobleman in the 1600s and you'd been dead for a while. You don't get around to shaving. Yeah. You had a mustache. That's authentic. That's what Robert Eggers does, man. This is what he does. Although there isn't a body of water between Germany and Transylvania. So for all the authenticity about Bobby eggs. I mean that's a really long, drawn out way to get to Germany.

Have any of you watched horror at 7 o'clock in the morning on a Saturday morning?

I think I watched a coffee table at that time.

Doesn't fit. It's not a fit. You gotta. You gotta coordinate the movie style with the time of day.

Love versus lust.

I get enough horror at 7am on Saturday for how hungover I am.

That's Looney Tunes time. Honestly. Yeah.

None of you are doing that with children. Greg Cody, I wanted to ask you because you're our football expert around here. When the Bengals, a notoriously cheap franchise, historically cheap laughing stock NFL cheap franchise before Joe Burrow that was perfectly happy just making money every season as a mom and pop shop that didn't was reputed in NFL circles. Circles is not caring about winning the way the other spenders right. Want to spend. They are faced and say they're going to sign Hendrickson T. Higgins and Jamar Chase. All of them. Now that would be signing everybody. Higgins was hurt this year but that would be signing everybody from a team that wasn't good enough to make the playoffs. And that'd be that the amount of money that it would take to keep all of those players. Now that you've had to give Joe Burrow money. The finances of all of that work. How. Because while it's very nice to say you will keep all of the players and it's. And you can tag Higgins as well. I don't see how you can have those four players and then have other players when Ja'marr Chase is going to want $40 million a year and now you're paying Burrow and Ja'marr Chase and now you've got to pay all these other guys.

Your defense was already bad last year in a way that it didn't matter how good Chase and Burrow were.

They've addressed the defense Defense. Al Golden.

That's true. Al golden, by the way, put on a few lbs.

Okay.

I don't think that's necessary.

He's been at, um. I'm just saying he looks fine.

What are you doing?

I'm just. Haven't we all, haven't we all just making a comment?

It's unnecessary establish he's got early on.

He's a public figure.

How is this your comment when I ask you for your football expertise? Al golden has put on a few lbs.

The NFL did increase its, its, its spending limit by what, $22 million or something. That'll help. They have to sign Hendrickson and Jamar Chase. To me, T. Higgins is, is sort of the, the odd man out here. I would hate to think that because they signed these guys, it means they're going to have to deplete the roster elsewhere. But, but in the, in the afc, when you have Joe Burrow, you're a contender. When you have a healthy Joe Burrow. But it's a much tougher conference than the NFC and you know, at best the third or fourth team in the conference. So it's. They're in a tough situation, but based on their preneurious history, I give them credit just for the public intent of resigning.

Well, you're sort of obligated to, right? Because once you've gotten to the situation where you're expect, you have the expectations of being a contender because of who your quarterback is, you have to do the things to keep your quarterback happy. My question to you is, as we talk about this, though, given that so many people are salary cap experts now, even though none of us are salary cap experts, even though we're obsessed with all of the money. I'm just asking you this. Generally, are there a lot of teams that, you know, that didn't make the playoffs, that you got to pay all four of their guys, that a team that hasn't made the playoffs, when what you got from that team last year was the rarest of things. The great quarterback play who doesn't make the playoffs, the healthy quarterback play that is great and also not great enough to make the playoffs because of how they started, when you're being fiscally responsible, when you have to win in the margins because even if they're advancing $20 million on the salary cap, you have to be better at the salary cap than other teams. Paying the four guys is what anybody would do.

What hurts is you have to get rid of somebody in order to have the rest of the team. Because. Because the thing that's broken about the Bengals from where I'm standing is architecturally, if you get that season healthy from Burrow, you cannot fail to make the playoffs. Like you're. You're broken in a way that doesn't portend well for your future. When Burrow was having the. All the great games and you were still losing when he put up 30.

Right. And you also can't shortchange the offensive line so that all of a sudden Joe Burrow is at risk. It's. It's really a no win situation in that you can't resign. You can't sign all four of those guys and do right by the rest of the roster. That's why I don't see how they can sign Higgins. To me.

Well, that's. But that's. Don't you just franchise him, does it? He just gets a tag.

Tagging them gives him a high number. You get some value there with a tag, but. And you're just kicking that can Burrow.

Saying the same thing he's saying. There's all sorts of stuff I can do with signing bonuses. There's all sorts I can do for cap relief.

Yeah. That's what Philadelphia has done. They've made an art work of. Of finagling the system legally to do all that.

Patriots said that for a very long time.

Where did you get that? Al golden has put on a lot of weight. I mean, he honestly looks better than when he was running around the, um, sidelines in a suit.

I agree.

Okay. Look at him.

He doesn't look big there.

Cheeky.

Cheeky.

So he's had those, like that Rose show.

Yeah, he looks pretty good, you know, some time at the Al Golden Corral. That guy, you know, but look, look, I haven't missed a meal either. I mean, aren't you a journalist?

How could you get that wrong? How could you only analysis of the Bengals be that and you get it wrong?

I've been told by sources.

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