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This is the down labor part show with this got Sparkasse. Always around here making fun of basketball analysis, because so often these games come down to who had open shots and who made open shots. So the Lakers in their last game had the worst stretch late on wide open jumpers with no one within six feet of them. And they've had all season. It's a make or miss league. Dan out and the Heat were one of 11 on uncontested stuff Olynyk and Crowder and Dragic with three for twenty on uncontested stuff.

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And so we usually are pretty stupid in just analyzing, analyzing, analyzing when the games often come down to that. And plenty of people probably had Boston Miami correctly analyzed. And then what happens at the rim at the end of the game ends up deciding the game and nobody could predict it because nobody's ever seen anything like it. All of that said, Mike Ryan has gathered some of our best basketball minds and you will find them previewing Heat basketball in Big Suey today.

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You could get everything you need in terms of I mean, Alhassan and Haugesund Onoe, Izzy Gutierrez, I'm missing somebody, Jack Harper and Mike Ryan sort of leading a discussion among those guys. We're going to watch the game tonight with you if you'd like. We will be on Twitch when the game starts. And we already did this one time. It was fun. The comment section moved way too fast. The arguments broke out. Surprise guests made appearances.

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There was a comment section. Yes, it was moving very fast and it was filled with a lot of foul things, which is still a little bit of the wild, wild west in that regard. And so if you want to spend some time with us tonight, you can do so watching the Heat game. Tony, you want to give the people whatever information they need on that so they can make sure to do it, please?

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Yeah. Then Twitch TV, LeBron and Friends is where you can watch us. Follow us there and you'll get all the info.

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Thank you. I heard you and Chris talking before the show and Valerie, my wife, was scared by the same thing. She saw only half of that social dilemma show on Netflix. And your devices are like creeping up on you. And our addiction is something. We've been talking about it for a long time. It's the world's allowed addiction, the world. Nobody's going to rehab for being addicted to social media or being addicted to their smartphones. And so social dilemma.

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I come home the other day and Valerie's got a lockbox for us where we can't even get at the phone for a while. Nice. And and I heard Chris. Wow, you got what happened. Is that is that the first thing you've said on the show?

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No, it's like the fourth thing I said, yeah. It was a make a mess league did. And I don't even know what you're referring to. I mean, it sounded normal when I said what I mean, Chris, I explained to people.

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So there's this it's not a it's a documentary. It's 90 minutes on Netflix and they're basically scare you straight on your devices because we're doing something and none of us can stop. Everybody's addicted to the same stuff. So, Chris, tell tell the people what you and Tony we're talking about as we tell people to watch us on Twitch tonight. And you don't know, we might be watching you.

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It's basically the tech industry basically saying sorry because it's like we created this thing that we thought would do a lot of good. And it has become a monster that is killing a generation of people and older generations. And it's basically just them documenting we're sorry for what we've done. And it's basically, you know, you think you go into your bathroom and you're strolling on your phone and you think you're alone, you're not alone. There's somebody pulling all the strings behind your phone of like, oh, we need him to stay a little longer.

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So we want to put this up. But we want this this girl, it was it's insane. I'm never looking at my phone.

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Put it put it on my phone. Please let Batard show. Are your devices watching and listening to you poop?

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We kind of need the devices, though. I mean, that's the dilemma.

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This is this is the great rationalization around here from everyone in our crew. I'm on my iPhone 17 hours a day because I got to keep up with everything because, good Lord, look at all the sports. But we were doing the same bleep when the pandemic was here and there were no sports like. And the guys in this documentary speak to their own addictions even as they know that they've planted some of this stuff. What were the more interesting details, Tony, to you?

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It's interesting to see the giants of the tech industry that have left and divested from the tech industry being into this documentary and saying, hey, yeah, we were the guys behind the Facebook like button. We are the president of Pinterest, or we were the monetization guys for Facebook and then basically spilling the beans in the secret society of social media saying, look, what we're doing is behavioral psychology. We're getting you to view things from your friends, from things that you like, from things that you don't like.

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And all we're doing is gathering data. There was a really interesting point. Throw to Chris for a second. There's a really interesting point where one of the guys says if you don't if you're not paying for a certain service, you are what people are paying for.

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And I thought that was a really interesting and they said that there's only two products out there that consider their consumers to be users, drugs and social media software, stuff like this. So it's like that. I'm just like like I said, never looking at my phone again.

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There are formulas, there are algorithms. They are absolutely gathering data in a way that will control us all within three decades in controlling us now in ways we don't even understand it. You're sitting there talking to a loved one about how much you like smoothies. The next thing you know, your phone is popping up all sorts of smoothie ads in the area and it's like a smoothie king. It's not the universe acting on your behalf. It's it's all this terrifying stuff that's happening in the social dilemma that you can find on Netflix.

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I, I find all of this stuff riveting and also terrifying, just terrifying that that we are in this place where all of us, everyone listening to this is like, yeah, I'm on my phone too much.

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There's nobody listening to this who isn't who maybe there are people out there trying to be on their phone. So what happens? You go home now and throw your cell phone into a box. Derek Jeter. I mean, what is.

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We haven't figured it out yet. We haven't figured out the rhythms of this particular thing.

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Turn off all your notifications because they're playing you like a fiddle. If you haven't been on your phone an hour, your phone is just going to say, hey, you need to something needs to pop up because this person hasn't been on. Hey, hey. Mike Ryan. He likes Woj tweets. Let's notify them that you just said, like, I swear to God, these notifications, they're playing you like a fiddle.

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I'm not missing a Woj bomb, pal. I got to be the first one to tell everybody. That's it. So that's it. You all draw the line. However scary it is, the society is crumbling around us and the access to this information is dangerous.

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Nine times out of ten, it's some two way contract. But every once in a while, every once in a while, it's the oil.

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What is what would be the correct poll question at Libertador Show to ask people to put the overunder on amount of time you spend on your devices a day where where should I put that number to get betting on both sides?

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Do you imagine like ten hours. Serious. So yeah. Not that much.

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Absolutely, yes. I was going to say like six or seven.

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I am telling you my wife from the second she wakes up it till she goes to be ten hours, you know, the overunder like no more people are going to say under ten hours they're going to say under but they're lying.

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I'm telling you, people are on those things the entire day. From the time they wake up to the time they go to bed. I mean, they're up for more than ten hours, are they? If you guys had to guess. Let's go around the zoom chat here, Chris. How many? Let's go ahead and shame everybody. My computer tells me how much time I'm spending on the iPad, so it just gives you your averages. Chris, what do you got?

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I think one week during the pandemic, I got like a seven hours. I averaged seven hours a day. And I was like, I need to change. And I've gone down since then, but I never was like my work.

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I need to change. Wow. This is like an Alcoholic Anonymous meeting. Like this is where I bottomed out during the pandemic.

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It was seven hours of looking at Rex Chapman to go. Tony, what was what was your what would you guess your number would be?

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I'm Tony and I'm a social media aholic. And my number was four and a half. I was four and a half hours my longest. I think that should be the over under four and a half.

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OK, put that on the pole then. The animal laboratories show perhaps ten was too aggressive. I think so. What about you, Garima? What do you think the Elmo is? He's downtrodden because the Marlins have gotten their heads beaten in by the wrong.

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The Marlins gain ground in the playoff race yesterday, Dan, they lost by ten and they still are in a better position than they were and headed into the game yesterday because the Phillies were swept. The Marlins are flying high right now. You need a little run differential in your minus. Thirty seven. The Marlins have been out. Who cares? The Marlins are making the playoffs and there's nothing you can do to stop them. Three and a half hours.

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They they are one game over 500 now after losing to the Braves and scoring one run in the biggest series of your life, you know, five hundred police, who cares how many games they are over and under five hundred games during the playoffs.

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You are the five. I am. I am. Put it on the program all at LeBreton show is day in the 500, please. If you are near 500, does he come and to learn.

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I ride on my motorcycle wants you got in the side car and you let's support the people who support us. Feel free at any time by the way to check in with everything we're doing at Libertador and Friends Social Media TWIC tonight we're going to do a watch party as well. So we have been trying to come in here and keep the laughter in the same place and basically give you some semblance of normal at a time that everything seems to be a note off, it is a tense time in America.

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People are fighting. We're not supposed to be out in the street because of a virus. And yet we get together out in the street to protest X and Y. And so everybody's a little nuts. We're drinking too much. People are buying handguns like everything is upside down in this country. And Mike Ryan just said to me, and this cannot be our normal. It can't be our normal. Mike Ryan just said to me, I've already gotten to the point where a college football game just being canceled because there's something airborne that's contagious is normal.

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Notre Dame's out. All right. Show me who else we got in the schedule. Just keep it moving.

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Yeah, I'm with Mike. I've arrived at that point as well. I didn't even like I even brought my shoulder pads and I can be normal.

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I need to ask the audience this and like that.

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I had him in an open place switch with Auburn. Right.

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We're in week three and Notre Dame, keep in mind, at any year before this one, if we were headed into a game and I was telling you, Notre Dame, the game has been canceled, you'd be like one now was canceled. But don't cancel college football games. It'd be the biggest story, one of the biggest stories of the year. You're right. And now it's just like, okay, does that mean Virginia Tech starts this week?

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They haven't started the season yet because everybody on their team has the virus to a month after the first college football game has been played.

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The Hokies finally take the field. But I know we're all bumming and we don't get to see the Irish SCC conference play. Come on.

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Well, I think everyone else has noticed the same thing that I have noticed, which is that college football, these first two weeks, like it has been a super diluted version. It's been like preseason college football where you've got just these random games against random like who who the hell put Clemson on a field with the Citadel?

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Like, we need to stop doing that.

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Clemson, why did they do it? We need to somehow actually stop doing that.

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Let's stop doing forty nine. Nothing in the middle of the second quarter. People are getting pulled out there. That is not worth heading into the virus over the games they've given us for two weeks now. Once Alabama starts playing, LSU starts playing. It's a different conversation.

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I mean, you do get Florida Ole Miss. Something feels right about that. You get Miami, Florida State this weekend. There'll be some normalcy this weekend. I mean, you won't get the coach for Florida State, but you get Florida State, Miami, because coaches covid as an airborne virus.

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OK, this is unbelievable here. Like, this is not this is not something that's happened. That's OK. Brett McMurphy, incidentally, for some of you and this is for some of you, what is happening when you're you're looking at the first two weeks and this when Brett McMurphy says this, he's speaking to some of you. Week one, a one hundred dollars Sun Belt versus big twelve money line parlay on Louisiana over Iowa State, Arkansas State, over Kansas State and coastal Carolina, over Kansas.

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All those upsets came in to guys where you all of a sudden had the big twelve doing nothing in the Sunbelt running the thing that one hundred dollar parlay would have won nine thousand eighty dollars.

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I lost it on coastal Carolina. That's too bad to got through. Godse is now making fun belt. God now I love what just happened with Stewart yesterday. His face comes on my television screen and it's unshaven, dirty and the camera shots from underneath. Why are you doing that? Camera shots you got. You're not doing yourself any favors.

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What do you mean? That camera shot, they FaceTime me and I could get the phone at face level.

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I couldn't I couldn't get I couldn't get in that. Take a photo of your girlfriend suppost on the Graham. Always up. Hi. I love the Mike Ryan. What is the name of this gambling show you were on Daily Wager.

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Yeah, yeah. I'm very excited about a daily wager. Yes.

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What I love and this made me smile. No lie from ear to ear was medicine in these difficult times where a Notre Dame game being canceled is just like, yeah, whatever that they put up on the screen is a graphic. Underneath this unshaven, dirty, awful face started on fourteen in two separate gambling pools. They played the thirty four thirty four of our show. That was my intro music.

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But that is such a it made me so happy to see on a gambling show as ESPN knows and knows, to grab that gambling money. Everybody's going to be running toward the gambling money. It's the wild, wild west of running after gambling money because this is about the floodgates on sports betting. You're about to open and there is two gods and is opening segment as he spreads like a virus across. ESPN has a graphic that starts on fourteen in two separate pools.

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Do you realize that everyone would be taking the gambling advice of someone who came on to that show at the beginning and they said the reverse of this is true? I started to pull 14 and out. Picking against you would have resulted. It would have resulted in somebody being a real recognized nation. C2C gambling expert. They take eight and six.

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I mean, it's time for them to reluctantly take part in something as to go to school and be happier doing after they splash that up there.

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He told everyone the power of the Steelers. I love it.

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I've got somebody out. There's got to just bet opposite's got this year. Just bet opposite him and see if we can make I mean, 14 to No.

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One to separate pool splash oh in 14. Oh in 14. Excuse me. Splash. Pardinas, Christine Lacy, we interrupted you. And finally, Americans collectively eat 100 acres of pizza every day. Here we go.

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And that's just darn I started shaking his head at it. Thank you, Christine. I'm not happy with how much is she particularly is enjoying doing that to me again and again. Again tonight, we will be watching the Heat game as a show. We have some surprises planned for you, I'm guessing. And so if you want to do that, we will be on Twitch tonight and you can watch Celltex with us. Migraines, a bit of a crazy person.

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I don't know if he's as crazy as Bill Simmons is. Bill Simmons is going nuts. Just his his Laker Sports hate is very strong and has been for a long time. And you've got to be scared of that team. All the other teams have to be scared of that team just because they've got those two best players yet.

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The Nuggets are sitting here at two one. I mean, the nuggets are really good. They're great.

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If I'm being honest, I'm not crazy about this experience tonight. The last time we did it, it was really hard for me to get into the game. But I'm like the first round we're handling the Pacers easy. I don't like the Boston Celtics. Two wins away from an NBA finals appearance. I'm already telling my wife, look, it's my daughter's first birthday. We were going to have a wine Wednesday, got to keep it away from me.

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I'm on the air. My emotions are going to be running high. I'm just not liking this. Can't have a wine wins. No, I'm not. No, have a wine. One would say no, no, no, no, no, no judgment impaired. Our judgment when we do these things, by the way, has been terrible. I'm always on edge.

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OK, well, just you know, I will be diving into the tequila. No. Wednesday or not.

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You're booted out from the zone. I don't like this one bit, but I understand what you're saying. This is a big game. I dare I say must win game for the step on their throats tonight. Jimmy Butler, big, big time game. You don't want to go back to Boston tied to to Dan. You don't want to do it.

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You just this can't be a must win game for the Heat. I mean, Scott Slosar and Tony Brothers, they like to take the home crowd out of it early. It's going to be difficult for Miami. It's the rare must win when you're up to one of the best of seven. I've never heard of it. It's never it's not a real bubble. It's not a rare two one. It's a one to one. I have never heard of a two one.

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Put it on the podium. Let Batard show. Can there be such a thing as a must win game when you're up to one in a seven game series? I did want to ask you guys something that a lot of people have been making fun of for a long time, because now there are some reports yesterday that Patriots owner Bob Kraft is likely to get off on these. It's likely to not be charged with the Boca Raton stuff that happened with him, allegedly happened and evidently is going to go away now.

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And my legitimate question to you is, Bob Kraft managed to fight off the video of that with his power ever getting out. I'm surprised TMZ somehow didn't get the video of that. He threw his lawyers at this what would be considered a minor offense by, I think just about anyone standards, a widower allegedly entering a massage parlor for something more than a massage.

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But what I'm asking you is, and this is legitimate, given that the shame of this is the worst part of the crime for him, the shame of it is him suffering a maximum sentence. Is there any point to your lawyers getting charges dropped? Like are you changing minds there that this didn't happen? Or are people assuming, well, you got off of. People are assuming that you got away with this because you you know, you have money.

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I think it's worth it's embarrassing, but does it sway anyone is what I'm saying?

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Let's say charges are indeed dropped, which makes it go away. It does. I think it's always some people it does weigh because if you're having a conversation about Robert Craft and you were convicted of this thing, it's part of the conversation. Now, if you shoehorn it in there, you kind of being journalistically irresponsible, if he gets off, if he if he's cleared of the charges.

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Forgive me here, because you just made what do you making a point there on a on a conviction. A conviction. If when you say part of the conversation, that's that's very vague. What does that mean?

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Well, number one, if there's some punitive measure handed down from the governments, from the court, that would be something he's not going to be picking up trash on the side of a road like.

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There's not going to be anything punitive. He pays a fine or whatever.

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And I think he's already suffered plenty with the embarrassment. But it brings it right back. And if he's cleared of this and it's expunged, really there's no real reason for anybody to mention it unless you do a show like ours.

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Well, no, but this happened yesterday. And I was legitimately wondering to myself, like going after it with this kind of zeal, what's the point once you've already suffered what the hurt is? Right.

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Like is he there's a human trafficking element to this. Now, that's not really a hold on.

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The deeper layer of this is is is vastly more problematic than what we're talking about here. He doesn't stand accused of anything serious that this entire industry is awful about. But speaking specifically to what he was accused of and the charges are now likely to be dropped. This is, by most accounts, a minor offense, the punishment for which can never be greater than the shame of us now having this in our.

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I was going to say, Hans, I was going to grasp this is a very difficult story to discuss. It is art. And I was I, I corrected myself. But you did it. You got the happy ending, though. Why on the entire segment, on the entire segment?

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Hold that thought, let's sell some assets minus the rare conflicting loser game show sound at the same time that came next. But no, I don't think that has ever happened before.

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There's a team up to one at the winning game. I don't understand what you did there. I really don't. I dare say this is what you said, Stu Gods gambling expert. I presented my degrees, my degrees in the heat of a must win tonight.

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No, it's just a messy segment out of a sticky situation.

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Jaromil put her on the pole, please, did the show milked that joke too much? This is someone on Twitter here, got ASV on Twitter is pointing out during that Wake Forest game that Clemson is out here getting the third string tight end grandson of the head coach who was the head coach of their head coach, a touchdown pass in the first half of a conference road game.

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The ACC is over again. Oh, no, it is not my friend. It is not because, listen, do ESPN Radio and this diluted pandemic of a college football season, Notre Dame is gone. Virginia Tech hasn't started. Notre Dame would never be in the ACC, but because of the virus, it might be in the ACC. But again, no game after winning 50 to nothing against South Florida because some people have a virus that leaves very few teams left standing that are healthy.

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But one of them is going to be college game days, featured game three weeks in a row. I don't know that I've ever seen that. I've lived through the hurricanes unprecedented winning streak. I have lived through Alabama, through USC. I don't think I believe I have seen the possibility of game day being in one place with one team all the time.

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They were in Louisville last week. This week, they descend upon Hardrock Stadium for Miami, Florida State. Massive game, but also a look ahead game for the Miami Hurricanes. It's next week. They traveled to Death Valley, Miami versus Clemson, guys, three weeks in a row.

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Wow. A look ahead game calling the FSU Seminoles finishers of the top five. Fourteen years in a row under Bobby Bowden. After that, Jimbo Fisher wins a title with one of the best college young college quarterbacks you've ever seen and Jameis Winston. And since then, they have been an unmitigated disaster. It is crazy how far that program has fallen, Scott. You can make the argument that fourteen straight years in the top five is as good a run, even though FSU didn't win all the titles and in fact won fewer than they should have.

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Fifteen straight years in the top five is one of those kinds of runs that only a couple of programs end up having.

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It's amazing. It's you're putting yourself in the national championship conversation every year. For fifteen consecutive years, Miami didn't exist. We would think of FSU totally different. Yes. If Miami didn't exist, we would think about all of Deon Sanders and just dominant across the board when it comes to FSU, because many of those seasons were ruined by the existence of simply Miami or their own failures in the kicking game. Miami has a quarterback this year. Miami has a kicker.

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Now, John Cook on Twitter writes, The Miami Hurricanes still a bunch of thugs. Their turnover chain is cleverly disguised to look like a handgun. Disgusting. They're calling us thugs, boys. Oh, no. All in a year or so. Oh my God.

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Miami's back rivalry does kind of look like a handgun, considering where they use placement is on the set of photos I saw from the back and I was like, whoa, that kind of looks like a Glock.

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It does look like a handgun that this is the you trying to climb its way back 20 years, just about. We have had nothing that feels like relevance around here. Mike Ryan says that Manny Manny Diaz has to earn his respect, has to show him something. So this stretch through FSU and Clemson in a pandemic season where they're only going to be four teams standing, there's going to be a top 20 at the end of the season, just going to be the top four.

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And one of them is going to be liberty because this just going to be four teams that are still playing. I don't think Mike's going to be impressed if they win this game. It's a look ahead. It is going to be depressed. I think if you're going to show him something, if man he's going to show Mike something, it has to be next week at Clemson TCBY this week because these games are always tight.

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No matter how good one team is, they're always tight.

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Don't look past the rivals, although FSU is missing their coach because of it.

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Yeah, there is that. But Miami has a quarterback and Miami has a kicker and ESPN trying to dress up. We right now, you have to understand first two weeks of college football, like I can't explain it or I can't be more eloquent than that.

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The Miami Hurricanes have the most impressive victory in college football this season, we think. Yeah, they were talking on number eight.

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We were talking about the UAB defense two weeks ago. Listen, we're starved, OK? Alabama hasn't started yet. Again, Virginia Tech's got the bug. Virginia Tech can't get out on the field. Notre Dame's not playing this week, but ESPN Radio is here and they have slickly produced do got something to get you fired up about the Miami program that hasn't mattered in twenty years and the FSU program that is in its worst stretch since it was a woman's school.

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We matter that one year until November.

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We play the sports radio overproduced, get you hyped for the game. And listen.

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Saturday Night Football presents a rivalry renewed Florida State, Miami. The Seminoles try to get their season back on track. Well, Derek King at the Red Hot Games. Look to stay on the red hot. We get to witness what college football's great referees come up with. Saturday Night Football presented by Capital One, Florida State and number 12, Miami Saturday at seven thirty Eastern for Thirty Pacific on ABC.

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It streaming live on the ESPN app.

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No idea they should be number 12. Well, but I mean red hot. My butt like red hot. They've won two games. They didn't look very good against UAB and Louisville allowed five plays of 150 yards with no defender anywhere like beyond social distancing, as if everyone was running away from the Wrona. I mean, I think it's fair to call them red hot.

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They've responded to a shout out to Louisiana Tech in their bowl game. Better than you could ever imagine.

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Man, it does not matter what the game even is. You put that music underneath it. They could have been building up Roy Chris playing checkers this weekend and I would be fired up for that with that music.

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Mike, what is the key to that whole promo? It's the oh, right at the beginning that's kind of goes on the way up. And then once the instruments start on the way, what happened?

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It feels like there's a guitar solo in the middle of it.

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And then they throw some hip hop in that Saturday night for the piano and the rivalry. I mean, the Seminoles get their season back on track, buddy. Eric Kig at the Red Home Games, OK, to stay undefeated. Yeah, we get. Yeah. Oh, here we go. What was that instrument? That was the bridge there between the piano and the hip hop as we try and cast the net all over America with superficial packaging about a game that hasn't mattered in twenty years, probably since then.

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Either way, the B dropped and you had someone probably from another game, not even Miami, FSU, because there's just generic we have the opportunity to win is one of the greatest rivalries in the sport of football.

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Who is singing there? Like is that is that somebody a do we pay for that? I don't know.

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But I'm just happy it's our fall out boy anymore. I love that Alabama's ranked second at Georgia's. Right. Fourth, I haven't played. That's right.

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You know, fall boys just in the studio, like how can we get this song played on college game day, Saturday Victory, every single one of their songs just to be played before the big time. That's part of their I know it to be so. Jason Fitz knows those guys. And he told me, no, they're getting they're headed in the studio recording songs just to get the royalties from making a college football song.

[00:30:39]

I thought that was the Imagine Dragons Lane. Imagine Dragons did it, too. And Fabray fall out, boy, try to snatch the crown back. They're only making songs. Wait a minute.

[00:30:48]

You guys are alleging that they're headed into the studio saying I need Herb Street to like that thousand percent. I need I need power to endorse this cause there's got to be about it. That's what that is. The spawn of creativity in music is what you're alleging. Good God. Twenty twenty. I hate you so very much. That's what we're doing now.