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Welcome, Dan Levy, really being honest about just a giant piece of shit to the big, silly Bald Eagles, a podcast exclusive that none of our bosses ask for more sports, more work, less pay.

I haven't stopped talking in a month.

I mean, I tell you, just when you thought the show couldn't be more dilutive than last time I listened to the show. I haven't listened for years now. Here's the marching band. No way am I missing something.

What am I missing? The end of the story that face Chris Fallick. It's Fallica he made on the penis and the habitual liar.

I didn't ask for any of us for all of it. The big SUV.

I'm Chris Codi BSP and hard to make a good turkey. Yeah, well, I make a beer, Brian. I did. I get the rub before I do anything.

I'm Brina and stuff that thing with a whole bunch of garlic and Charlottes and lime. Unlimited oranges, very citrusy.

Roy Bellamy is genuinely proud of his Thanksgiving bird. Look at the look on his face. He can't keep the smile of you believable.

I am going to demand that the show start right there with a bully and Roy Bellamy, which is something that none of us have ever seen before, talking. Please give us more information. My mouth was watering. I've never seen you this excited and nor have I seen you publicly exhibited pride by saying, yeah, I'm a bad ass when it comes to making a turkey. I also didn't know it was difficult to make a turkey. And when you said filling it with garlic and shallots, that sounded excessive to me.

That sounded dangerous.

Yeah, well, Thanksgiving is my favorite Holiday Inn. For the past half decade, I've been doing the turkey and it's been very, very well received by everybody who's had it. I tried several different ways, but the best way has been stuffing the cavity with garlic and shallots and rosemary and oranges and lemon and put in a beer, put in a beer injection inside the meat.

And then Greg Cody does it every night, brining it every night. Greg Cody puts a beer injection inside his belly in his veins.

It's true. Yeah, unfortunately, Greg. But that that does sound great.

Don't you make an incredible I heard him say that's where we started with him saying it was a well received bird. Cody, is it your bird also well received? Yeah, I have to I have to brag a little on my deep fried Cajun bird. I also make a traditional oven bird, which is OK, but it's second fiddle, my my deep fried Cajun bird I season with a dry rub inside and outside so that when I submerge that bird in the oil, it's a it's a deep reddish brown and color and it's just a beautiful thing.

I was afraid of the deep fryer at first because I was thinking to myself, well, how can this turkey not be oily? But it isn't because it seals in the flavor. It's juicy. It's got a crispy outer crust of of Cajun seasoning. It's just fantastic. Christopher can say that everybody goes for that bird much more in first before the traditional oven fried.

What kind of oil do you use in a deep fryer? You know what the go to is the peanut oil, but it's so expensive. I have I have no problem just using sort of a combination of vegetable and canola oil. I've had great success with it.

Can you please tell me what you're defining as very expensive? Because I think I hope that we've trapped you here in one of your many. Greg Coati denies he's cheap situation. How expensive is peanut oil?

Well, peanut oil generally is in the range of 12 to 15 dollars a gallon, and to cook a bird in my deep fryer, you use it at least two and a half to three and a half gallon. So you do end up spending even if you use a cheaper oil, you end up spending more on the oil than on the turkey itself, which always strikes me as weird.

So what is the price difference, though, between peanut oil and whatever it is, your store brand organic Winn-Dixie, oil, what are you talking about in price difference that makes you make peanut oil too expensive? Right.

I would say peanut oil is in the 12 to 15 dollar a gallon range and vegetable oil and canola oil is probably more in the, you know, the 899 type range.

It's not quite half as expensive, but it's not OK.

But a nine dollar difference, Greg, is not enough for you to do appreciably change the taste of your bird, not come on. Nine dollars is what you're getting in savings there. You you're the worst. OK, you ruined Thanksgiving because.

OK, wait a minute. Now, wait a minute. Wait a minute. BDC bird don't care.

OK, bird don't care what or you use the same nine dollars is not a matter of finding nine dollars worth of change in the couch cushion. You'd be like whoa, I just hit the lottery. Nine dollars. A lot of money. I'm not. Thank you.

I am not saying that it's an insignificant amount of money. What I am saying is that Greg Coati has too much money to be concerning himself and furthermore, making the bird taste appreciably less good because he's saving nine dollars. It's an unnecessary savings. The bird doesn't taste better because Greg Codi saved those nine dollars.

OK, I object, Your Honor. Levitated over here. The expert, the great culinary chef, the master in the kitchen is saying that my deep fried Cajun bird tastes, quote unquote, appreciably less good in oil. You've never had my deep fried.

You know, I have. And you said it what? You said the peanut oil is better. You volunteered that. I wouldn't have known that.

I volunteered that a lot of gourmands, a lot of hoity toity turkey cookers it. Roy will back me up on this. The peanut oil is the Cadillac. And not that the Cadillac is the standard anymore, but what we used to call the Cadillac of oil is peanut oil. But I'm saying that through trial and error, I have experienced that lesser oil is perfectly fine and the bird tastes just as good.

BDC in the beta don't care, depend on what all you get is different temperature points so that that affects how you cook your turkey as well.

That's true, too. I need a steady temperature. You know, as you know, Turkey cooks about three minutes per pound. So if I've got a, you know, a twenty two pound turkey, it's basically going to be done in just about an hour. And it worked fabulously. It's the star of my Thanksgiving has your turkey is the star of yours.

I need to point something out because Mike Ryan has been throughout the entirety of this segment, as Greg Cody likes to say, like a mule eating Briar's, a giant smile pasted on his face because and we need to celebrate this as a show in twenty years doing this. I've never seen Roy. This invested in a topic. I have never seen Roy care. He is leaning into the Zoome. He is eager to talk. He wants to say beer, Brian again and again.

He corrected himself on how he puts the beer brine in the turkey. It's an injection. There's an actual injection he went through. Roy, I've never seen this side of you, OK? I've known you for a very long time and I can honestly say not the Panthers, not 90's baseball, not how good you are at Twitter. Not Breaking Bad, not the wire. I have never seen you as interested in a topic as the frying and the cooking of turkeys.

I don't mess around when it comes to food and I don't I was telling a friend actually about something that happened at a long, long time ago where we went to Gatsby's, where they used to have the next game.

So we lose the Dolphins coach and eat food. I can't tell you how many lamb chops I had on your diet.

That was a tremendous night.

Tell me more about this. I want to hear more about what we do. We did Lamb. I don't remember. Where was Gadsby's? Where is that?

Gasiewicz was next to five ninety five up in Dedee.

And I believe that was the day that Stew got through his headphones because. Because Traffic ticket lawyer didn't call it. Oh wow.

Ken Arnold didn't call in. So this was a mike. See if you can find that sound so that we can play it. It's it's the original Stu got changed. Do you remember the Gatsby's remote where we found ourselves in a situation where Roy was eating lamb chops like. I am not certain I remember. I don't think it was a Gadsby's, though I do remember doing it with Ken Arnold. I don't think it was at the Gadsby's. I know the Gadsby that Roy is talking about.

I party there. I would stay out there until 3:00 in the morning. I had a lot of great nights there, some of the greatest things I've ever had at Gadsby's, but I don't remember doing that to the Hirsche Ardell team there.

I remember being in studio, put it on ice, got them put it on the pole. You will find that sound in the second at Libertador Show. Are you surprised at all that some of the best items to godson's life have been at a place called Gadsby's? We will get that sound in a second, but I've got to make some fun of CODI here. Codi How many times during the local hour did you mention the Greg Codi show featuring Greg Kotick?

I think the overunder is probably like 2.5. By the way, it's the great Cody show with Greg Cody not featuring Greg.

I like it better my way. You could you know, Grandmaster Godse likes to say you do it your way, I'll do it my way. I just want to understand, because this is something our friend Jeff Miller was in town with the Los Angeles Chargers and we have known Jeff Miller since Greg Cody was a Cub columnist. And and I was like an intern at the Miami Herald. And Jeff Miller looked at me sideways when I explained to him that our audience is so loyal that they had made you in conversation with your son, one of the biggest podcasts in America last week.

And he looked at me sideways, genuinely confused, and I did not know how to answer him when he said, Why does Greg Cody care so much about clicks at his age? Like, why?

Why is he. I didn't know. I did not know how to answer him. Really? Because I'm like, well, I guess it helps him hold on to value at work or the feeling like there are very few metrics that measure how a newspaper columnist at 65 is impacting his newspaper. And if he only gets clicks from stories about our show, because you told me that that got like more than hurricane coverage last night, last week, just your article about it.

What's the answer to his question? I'm competitive, you know, I take I still take pride in my work when something I write, whether it's something about the show or something about the dolphins, gets a lot of eyeballs, that makes me feel good. When a podcast I do sets up a personal record for most downloads, that feels good to me. And, you know, I've always been a competitive guy. I've never been a great athlete.

But back in the day when I was playing tennis, I wanted to win when I was well, if for me, these are normal human things that you're saying, he was more questioning just the sheer obsession that you have with it. Like it's not merely that you're competitive, it's that you can't think of much else like that that you are thinking. Chris, how often how often is your dad just bringing up his podcast around you? And do you guys have anything in your lives that is a bigger father son bond right now in terms of how much your father cares to talk about it than the podcast?

He sends me many updates of the downloads throughout the week, way more than I ask for it.

Only when they're good does his conversation about the downloads usually. Is it something that he talks about more than his granddaughter?

I won't put it there. It's close, though, which is not a actually. What does he ask you about for the podcast of the granddaughter?

Oh, I don't want to go down that. I feel like I've got enough trouble the last week where we're skirting on dangerous territory.

Billy, who do you imagine, Billy, when Greg Cody says he's a competitor and he's competing? Who do you imagine that name names? Who do you imagine, Chris? Do you know the names? Like, would you happen to know who your father's quote unquote rivals are at the Miami Herald, where he where he's being competitive because he wants to be better than somebody for reasons that might be petty?

Well, are we talking about clicks or downloads for the podcast? Because the podcast, he has higher aspirations. He or he referee. You hear Dan Patrick, you hear Tony Kornheiser, you hear Libertador show in terms of the people he's like looking at when he's finding his show on the list. As far as clicks, I don't really get into it as much as who he's competing with at the Herald or Clicks.

I feel like Greg is trying to push out some of the young bucks, like he had a thing with Clark Spencer and then Clark retired and now is like a minor victory for Greg. Now he has his sights set on Jordan McPherson and he doesn't want him to climb overhead. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not at all. Clark Spencer is one of my best friends and happily hesitated. You hesitated.

Barry Jackson, Barry Jackson. Are you going after young Buck? Barry Jackson? Barry is not that young anymore.

And no, I'm not. I don't I'm I'm not a competitor with anybody that relates more to my podcast. I'm not ashamed to say that my podcast is by far the most successful of any of the Miami Herald sports.

I'm not a racist. It's just fact.

And I'm proud of that. Not ashamed. Should be proud of that. That's genuinely one of the successes of my career coming so late in my career is that largely through the popularity of my appearances on your show, my podcast has been wildly successful by Miami Herald standards, and I'm happy about that.

I don't think he cares about the Herald. I think the people he's looking at are exactly the people that Chris has already mentioned. He is checking out stupidity. He is checking out Mina Kimes. He is checking out Pablo Doré. He's checking out the mystery grade SB sections and he wants to beat all of us.

OK, so it's us. We're we're your competitors. I didn't I didn't realize that this was going to blow up in my face this way.

No, here's here's what it is. And I do look at the rankings. Apple has a top two hundred and fifty rankings every week. If I'm in the top 50, I'm thrilled. I don't I don't care if I'm to thirty eight in that line. If I'm in there, it makes me happy. And believe me, last week was an AB normality. You know, most weeks I'm happy to be, you know, one hundred and forty seven or 88 or whatever.

Well we are, as we've told you many times and we've been floored by it, like legitimately flawed. And for years we've been floored by the way that you guys support our nonsense at every turn. The way you guys are soldiers for us, like you'll fight anybody who dares disparage us. And so the idea that you guys would be this kind of loyal is a little bit nuts to me, given that we're a sports radio show. Like, it's just a silly thing that we do.

But, Cody, the the way that you care about this is such and I don't know if I'm guessing most people have noticed or listening to this on Greg Cody Tuesdays, it's been very frustrating beyond the normal reasons of him always coughing and him just not paying attention to his microphone, not working and him just trying. Bother me at every turn. It's been very hard to get Greg Coati Tues to feel the same. I think it's the biggest hit we've taken in the pandemic in terms of chemistry on the show, because in the two hours that we're now doing on terrestrial radio that you could feel us boxed in by everything.

There's just so little room to get to Greg Codi in a way that allows us to do the show the way we normally do. You probably seen and felt some of this with Billy too, being out of the studio because it's just hard to to hit the notes. But what we just did with Greg Cody talking about his podcast for that long, he does not care if he says another word today.

I'm not kidding you, Chris. Am I wrong about this like your father has doing as long as he gets to talk about some two in the local hour and as long as he gets to talk about his podcast, if I let him talk about his Lobo's right now, he would leave the rest of the show. He wouldn't pay attention to anything else that happened around here for the next couple of hours.

He already texted me during this segment saying, love this promo.

Yeah, no, I'm I'm sure of it. It's why I do it for you, Greg.

This is the reason it is. Time now for a weekly update on our favorite team, Rick's Lowballs. And here is their head coach. I'm president of football operations, Rick Cody.

Do you think Grady's got. Well, everybody Gregs Lowballs does not have much good news to report. I have to say the boys have endured four losses in a row. We have free falling from from the edge of playoff contention to likely not contending. Have we given up yet? No, because we're the lowballs. But, you know, I don't like to make excuses, which is a prelude to me making excuses. We had Dak Prescott is our quarterback.

We lost him. Our top draft pick was Michael Thomas. He's barely played and barely produced all season long. We've had we have two of the best running backs in the league in Aaron Jones and Chris Carson. They've both been in and out and injured a lot. So genuinely straight up, we've had bad luck. Having said that, we're the low blows. We don't give up. When things get hard, we fight harder. And if you don't think the lowballs are going to win the last three or four games of the season and into the playoffs and then make a deep run, you don't know the beauts.

So you don't stick with us, Slowpokes Nation, because we ain't done yet. And and there'll be more to come.

Boy Nativo Dobos, who's the valve who's MVR right now? You know, that's a tough question, and the fact that it's a tough question this deep into the season hurts me.

He can't name his roster. He can't name. No, I certainly can. My quarterback situation is a nightmare. You know, I think I started Derek Carr last week because, you know, when you lose Dak, it's a steep fall to whoever you sign off the waiver wire. Aaron Jones might be leading my team in points right now, but the NBL is still a contentious race. We're going to say that.

All right, Mike, you have been producing this show for a long time. Billy, you have been a Greg Cody observer for a long time. Have we lost him for the remainder of the show because he is just so pleased with himself that that he's been able to talk so much and advertise the only things he cares about, that we won't get anything out of him the rest of the way.

Well, Greg, do you have it back in my day today? I do. I have a low confidence back in my day. But to dance point, I'm so satisfied right now. I'm laying back in bed smoking a cigarette.

Yeah, we've lost them. I don't know.

I feel like this has been a good hour for Greg. I feel like he's just starting to cook with peanut oil, as they say. But I really feel like he's got that right.

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Let's play that sound, I'm not sure was it Gadsby's, because I think I think you guys might be right on this, that we were in the studio, those old laxly studios. And for those of you who haven't been listening to the show, Mike, what do you think in terms of listeners that we have right now? Are more of them people who have gotten to us in the last five or six years or more of them people who have been with us throughout the entire time last five, six years?

OK, so most of the people in the audience haven't actually heard this or they've heard us play it. I think they've heard it on occasion. This is a good call back. This is even predating this. You know, this is. Yes.

You weren't even on the show right now at the time. We were at that Gadsby's and you were eating all those lamb chops. Were you working for the show or were you still somebody who was just showing up at the remotes to hang out with us?

No, I was hanging out with you guys doing college. OK, so you ate all the lamb chops.

You're not the first time I met Roy. Roy put his laptop next to mine. We were working a remote. It was like some 72 Dolphins reunion at a hotel or something like that. I was convinced Roy worked with us. It was only like several days after that. Someone explained to me that the guy that keeps putting his laptop next to mine at our workstation is just a fan.

That's that's people, I think about what our crew is. It's just absurd. Roy, just hanging out around the show.

Mike, just sort of hanging around. He was helpful, too. He was acting as if he worked on the show. He was giving all he was trying to help. He was always trying to help. It's why it's why we ended up hiring him, not because I saw him eating all those lamb chops.

But yeah, I know, Roy, the the Gatsby's situation that you're imagining it. So you're saying you're just showing up to a remote? We're doing are there any people there like were there because I remember this happening when we were in studio and they were those big clunky like old 1980s headphones that weighed about twelve pounds. It wasn't like what industry standard. It was just ridiculous. And so I'm remembering this differently.

Baywatch that night, guys, his parents and his children was there.

I believe Joran was the engineer on in and Adrian was the promotions guy then. Yeah. That's good night. OK, yeah.

Because of the aforementioned lamb chops. But I don't think this happened that night. And I just got set the sound just like explained to the people how it is that we would do the segments they were taped. Right. You would you would pretend like you were taking a call from a guy from a financial firm who had just taped something.

It was the Herschel Arnold team, Kenny, Kenny, Arnold. And I can't remember the other man, Cherche.

They were your good friends at the time. They were. I remember their name. Yeah.

Back then when they were spending money.

Well, I just because my dad told me if I ever die, the first call, you need to make it to the church. Really? Yeah. Oh apparently Mitch Hirsch handles all my dad's affairs.

All them. So my phone.

So, so we used to do this at around. I want to say right after the market closed, we did a market report. Sometimes it was live, sometimes it was tape.

Most of it was taped, but it was always tuned out. Yeah, it is. And we've sent to your dad after my dad. We have gotten no better in twenty years at those live spots. All of it is true now. All of it is white noise. We're begging you not.

Hello. Fresh works. Yeah. It's so ninety seconds I believe was the market report. I would throw it to either Ken Arnold or Mitch Hirsch and they would take it from there. And there was a time one time where I threw it to those guys and no one was there.

And so you but you remember whether you were waiting for someone to actually pick up the phone or for them to hit a button that would play the tape cannon. I think this was a live one.

Yeah. This sounds just judging by his anger, kind of sounds like this was supposed to be a live hit.

OK, and so here it is. Here is two gods. Now, this is I would say to God this maximum angry. Is this as angry as we have ever heard?

Who got on the air on the verge of an outburst on the air? Yeah, it was Max angry. It was early in the in the radio station.

I sure you didn't like the old by unprofessional. God knows what else.

I just they were spending a lot of money, murf, all of it. And it just was a very stressful time in my life.

I hold on a second before we play this sound, let's let's help the audience as Roy smiles even more than he did with the turkey. Let's help the audience on Merv. Roy, go ahead. The floor is yours. You've got the giant smile on your face.

Who was you got hanging with CFO and, well, not only the CFO, but I'm pretty sure when I turn on the news and his office was being raided by actual federal authorities.

You remember that they never proved anything.

Oh, my God. I can't remember what I'm talking about. No, no.

But I believe it. Which is just sort of goes along with of my experience with Murph is he always seemed fun to hang around with. But then when it was during. Work hours, he was always suspicious that people were lying about the time that they were clocking, let me just say I got hired in February of 07 officially, and I wasn't paid until June. But around this time, he instituted an old like clock that you would punch in and out of because he was adamant people were lying about their hours.

He always said purple because of the red wine.

And when you got your checks, be sure to get to me as soon as you can. Oh, it was a dad day. Yeah, it was a mad dash sprint.

I remember I remember when you guys were struggling in some meeting at a golf course and I was asked to simply work for free, not to take a pay cut. Would you simply work for no money at all? Would you? Evidently, Mike was doing for several months when he joined, but I was just happy to be there.

Man Biggest show in radio at the time for me. Did we accurately describe Merv enough like whiskey nose? Yeah, I think we. Okay, I think we nailed it.

Several noses at the rolled up sleeves never buttoned up. A pink, pink, pink Sunkist, but with his complexion, Larry Pink, did you know, kind of in terms of, I don't know, just general look, Chris Cody's not that far right.

I would say he's closer to Chip Kelly, closer to Chip Kelly with a whiskey nose. You would say Murph is. Yeah, yeah. I think that's that's that's really accurate. Yes. Slightly taller.

Chip Kelly with a whiskey nose farmer's tan as well. Great. A lot of golfing.

Is there a lot of. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You scratch golfer. Yeah he was. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Sunglasses like also leaving the tan. There was a band because he was on the boat all weekend and so that's who's two guys was partying with.

Correct. Yeah. And he was also running shit. He's the guy I would meet at a place after Gatsby's OK.

He was after hours no doubt. Yeah. After I was married after that.

So that's why you were saying it's one of the most delightful nights of your life is a guy. He's a psychiatrist. It's what you don't you want your wife to know about that.

You got to be very nice to me. I only have the nicest thing to say about him outside of him not paying me for several months. I love Merv. Let's just say that night I had to douse myself in gasoline on the way home. I know you've told that story.

You told that story, Merv. Yes. For those of you who do not know, it's the way that God's got the scent of the strip club, often by going to the gas station.

Fortunately, it didn't do anything about the body glitter.

Has anyone seen Greg Coady? Let's play the sound. You knew he'd be gone as soon as that happened. Let's play the sound of Stu God. This is Stuart Rabbit with rage.

Before we break, what to bring on my good buddy Ken Arnold, Everglades Capital Management, the Herschel Arnold team. Kenny, how are you doing today? Danny. Waiting for again, trying to hook them up here, can you with us, we'll try again. He has got them. We'll take a quick timeout, you guys figure it out, goodbye. Yeah, that was a student of this pristine sound right there.

Yeah, he hung up on the show.

Yeah, but what makes me think it was on remote, Roy, was the sound of headphones being dropped. I promise you. Is it studio? And Dan is right. There were these big industrial type plastic.

How much they weigh 12 pounds, 15 pounds heavier than these. And I had to be like 18 to 20 pounds. They had some girth. And that's why it sounds the way it sounds that you would put them on would this.

They were helicopter pilot headphones, that's what they were. That's right, that's a good that is a good description using a chopper.

But Ill-fitting, they would never fit your head. They would always slide down and crash into your collarbone because they were too heavy.

This right here, though, if you listen, I think I know the guy well enough at this point to know all the things that happen here. First off, you hear some ambient sound in the background where it feels like what was going on on air is some people in a studio talking while stewardesses trying to maintain some semblance of professional.

But I also really enjoy about this. And God knows Mike has felt some of this. And it is a plague in my existence when we're scrambling because we're disorganized and I have to filibuster. It's generally the places where you guys end up most hating me because I make the mistakes during the filibusters. This is Stuart, fundamentally incapable of stalling with anything that resembles a take, a thought, anything that a phone number. It's just you got where is he?

Where is he? Where is he? Where is he for you?

Before we break, I want to bring on my good buddy, Ken Arnold, Everglades Capital Management, the Hirsche Arnold team. Kenny, how are you doing today? Denny. Waiting for Ken, trying to hook them up here, Ken, you're with us. We'll try again. Yes, got them. We'll take a quick timeout.

You guys figure it out. Goodbye.

So mad today indicating that sounds so much like a remote, crazy aroy.

There was something there was something at the beginning of this. Was that Sluggo on the board? I can't remember. I was passed, though. I think I just lost the fight to Dan and I realized, like, I'm never going to win an on air argument. This guy is too smart for me. I was frustrated. The sponsors not there at the very least, get a spot if I'm going to lose and embarrass myself on the radio. Can a sponsor be there so I can get bad traffic?

Probably screwed up during the break.

McCaig we should probably do you know, we should probably do it the big city for a while. Just tell stories from those days.

I can't legally. There's Enda's. I was going to say Strogatz isn't there? I know that there's an eating.

Oh, I'm thinking about my marriage and you got to eat in the place you ended up at because there's an eating strip club like right near Gadsby's I believe.

Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no child. You what is the what is this. Well, that's the side of the holiday party.

And 07 it was a.A. What is the story behind one high ranking member of our former management team calling you? Was it nude from a tree? Like what was the wasn't there a story involved?

He was running from and I'm hesitant to say where he was running, but let's be honest, OK? I think it's on the public record. Yes. No, it is.

No, I think, you know, these reports are this made news. It was on local TV. It was.

Yeah, it was. This isn't the time that Merv's office got raided. It was on local TV. This is a different time involving a different person in the office that got raided our office.

It was that big place and it was in presidential search. OK, so we share the office. So you can't travel, you can't draw a direct line to Murf.

There is no direct line to the real time. I mean, back in those days, there was a lot of fraud coming out of that building, but I'm not totally sure.

I think I have this right. I think I saw Merv giving an interview as federal agents were streaming into the building.

Yeah, but I think that was as an eyewitness, there were a lot of shell corporations in that building. So you guys can back me up on this. I visited those offices twice, and the only people they or the seven ninety folks the entire first floor was that we were on the third floor, I think maybe the seventh floor.

I forget we had a nice office back there. I think it was a sigh of relief on the local news.

Remember, this is how sketchy these people were. I'm not kidding you that they had on the side a real estate business.

And that was the main business. We were the side business.

OK, fine. Whatever it is, that was not a vanity project with that main business.

My mom still complains about somebody from there that I gave to her that she said bilked her an old lady out of a hundred thousand dollars in a real estate deal that I think I can't got.

It's not exactly nine dollars in the stimulus bill.

It's too strong a term where she thought she could get one hundred thousand dollars more for a property and that they were selling it lo.

The other story you're talking about did not take place in the office. I'm not certain it took place in Florida. I think it was out of state, in a forest in the woods and it involved one of the people involved.

Well you don't have to. This is the part I was trying to protect on the part of our senior madam. High ranking person.

Yeah. And a helicopter or two. Well, he called me. He called me while being chased at night, running through the woods, hiding in a tree with police helicopters, with big, huge lights, just searching all over the area for him. And he called me and I was like, what do you want me to do?

This is like, we're not laughing at the circumstance. No, no. We're laughing at you guys. He's receiving this call and him just being like, what do you want me to do?

So just imagine we are not laughing at the circumstance. Be clear on that because the circumstances are terrible. OK, so we're not laughing at that. We're laughing at the visual.

Imagine yourself getting a phone call from a boss, from a boss who is hiding in a tree in the middle of a state when police helicopters flying over him looking for him and him asking me for advice. The desperation, I think about that.

I want you guys to all imagine this, OK? All of you. All of you listening to the sound of my voice. You're in the most desperate circumstance of your life. You're crazed, you're scared, you're in the aforementioned woods, criss crossing helicopters, shining lights, looking for you, you're in a panic, you need a guardian angel, you pick up the phone. How many names have to be on that phone before you choose? You got the one you are choosing to come and bail you out of this situation.

For him, it was just Murf. Luckily, you guys were at the same spot when you received the call. Neither of us answered.