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Adventure Auto at Advanced Auto Parts and participating Carquest locations see stores for details. Welcome, Dan Levy, really being honest about it, just a giant piece of shit to the big, silly Bald Eagles, a podcast exclusive that none of our bosses ask for more sports, more work, less pay.

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I haven't stopped talking in a month. I mean, I know the value.

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Just when you thought the show couldn't be more dilutive, bam. Last time I listened to this show, I haven't listened for years.

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Now here's the marching band. No way am I missing something.

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What am I missing? The end of the story that Chris Fallica, its Fallica, you man on the penis and the habitual liar.

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I didn't ask for any of us for all of it. The big SUV.

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I'm Chris Codi BSP and. Hello. Hello. Hello, audience, I have and we have had a very difficult weekend, you may want answers here. Many of you have theories on everything going on with us, and we like to be transparent with the audience and we're going to be transparent in this instance as well, no matter what it costs us. So thank you, first of all, OK, because for those of you who don't know why it is that I'm heartbroken, gutted, don't make your jokes about how substantive my gut is there in a gutting of Chris Cody.

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That's a lot of gutting. But Chris Cody. We were blindsided by him being let go. It's the greatest disrespect of my professional career that I got no notice, no collaboration, that Mike Ryan told me that Chris Cody had been let go, that I would have loved to have worked something out if somebody had told me to protect him, because anyone who knows who got what we do around here understands that we are a family, a dysfunctional pirate ship slash clown car that shouldn't exist inside this machine, but is so sticky with you guys, at least in part because you, the discerning among you recognize in a way that's totally overwhelming.

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I can't tell you how you the audience, with your support and your loyalty, somehow made one probably the worst professional weekend of Chris Cody's life. Better. God bless you, too, for helping his dad because he was dragging his son's carcass around the carrier carcass around all weekend, just trying to get the clicks off of it, because we weren't talking to you, we weren't giving any information. And we've been sitting here trying to rectify this. I didn't want to come on air and say anything that we would regret because I was emotional, heartbroken, angry, like just not able to sleep angry using the firing of his son for clicks.

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What's wrong with that?

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That is correct. That is the Greg Cody way. He tried to scoop his son. He he tried. I'm going to tell you some of the stories here, because Greg Cody was an unholy nightmare this weekend, just trying to get to the clinic. But before I do that, I just want to tell the audience how grateful we are for your outpouring that has inundated and continues to inundate ESPN to explain to them that you don't understand that this is a family you don't get to show.

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You don't understand what Chris Cody meant to our entire group as someone that the only one everyone liked and never had a problem with, ever.

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You don't get the show. And by not consulting us, the managers of this environment, by not asking us anything like if there could be something that could be done, let me tell you how hurt we were by this. OK, just so that you understand, Stu has offered to cover half of Chris Coatis. Salary yo chicken. Well, that's the thing, don't believe that for a second, but proceed. Look good, though. It did look good.

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All right.

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Well, I'm still waiting for him to give me half of your Christmas bonuses from last year.

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So fair enough. I'm getting to him. Fair enough. On the subject of whether or not you believe him. Still, he offered it in what felt like a heartfelt gesture if he had a heart that wasn't contaminated by greed.

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The offer still stands and it stands as an offering. Standing at the altar, it's going to keep just standing there. And it's never going to move toward me. It's just going to stand until I move back and it's going to back away. That is correct.

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But let me let me before I go any further down this path, you have to understand something.

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OK. This time at the company has been horrible, so many people have been affected, we have been affected far less than anyone else. So I want it made clear that no matter how hurt I am about this and I've been wounded by it, I very much understand that this is the product of a very dangerous time and brutal time for the company and that we were affected less than most. The part that makes it so hurtful to me is that you blindsided me.

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It's not it is not that you did it because I understand. Look, it's a it's a sprawling corporation. It is a giant beast. We are an accounting error. Never mind, Chris. We as a group are just something that, you know, somebody can lop off a head without. It's just a number on a page. It's not anything. Human corporations don't tend to be human. And if someone had talked to me, I would have pleaded on the idea of humanity.

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So we have spent the last five days trying to figure out what it is that we can do with this. And I'm actually happy to report, and this is a pretty cool thing to be able to report because it was required, some creativity was required from us in order to get here. But I'm going to hire Chris Cody as my personal assistant to fill the role with a raise on his present salary rise to fill the role vacated by Alison Turner.

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You'll cover the raise. I will cover the raise. I will cover the entire thing with Holon.

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That's amazing for Chris. But what does it mean for our show? It means that Chris Cody is still going to be on the show.

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Thank you. De de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de la. Couple of vacation days. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for conveniently time, timestamp. This is all until someone finds out about it right now. More programming, it's cable for you, Mike.

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Are we allowed to do this? That'll be a good question. We will see. Mike's joke is a little too real because since we're on ESPN plus, I'm not sure that anyone at ESPN is actually going to notice for like six weeks. It's going to be so confusing when somebody because they're not going to notice from just listening to the show these like we're again, this is a big, sprawling corporation. The people who oversee us don't even understand much of what we do.

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I can't wait till eight weeks from now because they're not going to see it on ESPN. Plus, we missed our big unveiling on ESPN, plus because we were too wounded by all of you.

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So much part. Scott, we appreciate your cover. Was it Bart Scott and the handyman?

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They replaced us when it was it was Bart Scott.

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I still am like, wow, this is some sort of launch, though.

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Scott's the thing that you have to know, though, about poor Chris Coady is he spent the weekend and Chris is here. You haven't heard from him yet, but he is here. And he spent the weekend all manner of terrified because when I'm saying, look, I'm just going to hire you, this is the way we're going to do it. He's like, well, are they OK with that? And I'm like, Chris, what are they going to do, fire you again?

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And then he gets scared and he's like, Shouldn't I check with so-and-so? And I'm like, Chris, I'm your boss. No, they're not your boss anymore. What do you mean? Should you check with someone? So you need a personal assistant. You got one. I want one for a while. Has ESPN stole Alisyn? So, Chris, what has this all been like for you? Because Chris has been worried about a million different things.

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He's scared I wouldn't have actually wished this weekend as much as you guys booted him. I wouldn't wish this weekend on people because it was really unpleasant to lose your job publicly. I felt like all of it could have been avoided if someone had just had a conversation with me. Right. And he doesn't want people to think that any of this is a bit like that. We orchestrated any of this like it would be a pretty great bit in order to test the audience's loyalty.

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But he's he's afraid of all of it looking self-serving, which it is for his dad. This is all just media.

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We're trying to get you more likeable than Greg Cody. Greg Cody is. That's what the focus group showed, that I'm not likable enough.

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He was generally centered around your fat face or like, how do we counterbalances because there's no shrinking of the face and I'm very likable.

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So if you want to pay the full freight on Chris's salary, you have added, I think they will do you a lot of good.

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Dan, I mean, Chris, how are you? How have you been? Just you made your father's podcast third overall in sports because we weren't talking to anybody and hate that guy.

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I mean, he was so bad this weekend.

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Tell the people how shitty he was, just sort of chasing you around trying to get the story while like synergy on Twitter of the saddest story I've ever written for the exclusive interview, check out my podcast, The Greg Cody Show, featuring Greg Cody, where I interview my son about his sadness. Yeah, he I'm sorry. I'm like emotional right now.

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This is weird, like after what happened on Thursday and like now being back here in this Zoome, like, I'm I'm actually like oddly emotional right now. But yes, my dad's the worst. He for sure made this weekend worse and more stressful for me. Like that is just a fact that he may get better.

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And anyway, I mean, he told me he loved me a couple of times, but like I mean, I'm so, like, just I don't know, I'm so moved right now by you guys in the support by you guys, especially in the show and the fans and the rare, terrifying and heartwarming weekend.

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What can I say like this is I don't know what to say right now. I'm so grateful for everything and the support and this and you guys allowed me to be here.

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And Dan, you and Stuart's like, I'm I'm just so moved and thank you.

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I'm going to seize on a word that Chris said, which was support because that's part of ESPN fan support. And remember how we often use that as a bit. And they got super annoyed. Corporate got super annoyed because that is a very real thing. There are people manning these stations and taking back these these little items of feedback and running it up the corporate chain.

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And they have been absolutely flooded and inundated. And it's making a difference. It's getting people to notice and it's something the likes of which they've never seen. So thank you so much for that.

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But that's the that's the part. That's the part. Like, how do you how do you guys not understand what this audience loves about the show, that it's this weird, dysfunctional group that's like the office that love one another. And it's just a weird thing that exists. And when you take Chris Cody out of it as the guy, I'm not like I'm not kidding when I tell you we have all sorts of things around here because we're all different personalities.

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No one here has ever had any issue for five seconds with anything involving Chris Cody just to his father.

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Right. Well, that's there's that I mean, you are his demon sperm just because, like, he's awful like he was, I can't explain to you how awful he was this week. And I was in an argument argument with him late last night because he told everyone that we were coming back. And I'm like, Greg, the reason your podcast is 3rd is because of our silence on this. What are you doing?

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He actually argued like I've received no indication that this was some sort of secret. Well, how's this for indication number one? You thought it was newsworthy for a reason, Jack.

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And number two, there is silence on it. That's because we don't want anybody to know where this is all very fluid. We were figuring stuff out up until this morning, up until we turned on the mikes. So we don't want anything out there that could be dated the second that we say it.

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The last thing he texted me last night was that he wants to frame the picture of his podcast being third on the list all the way to third, huh?

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Yes. All the stupidity this week. I mean, feel free.

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Chris, what did I tell you about this is a career five years ago. What did I tell you?

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He told me that this is a roller coaster of a career man.

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What a weekend.

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I told you not to do it, Chris. I told you, you and your father, not to choose this as a career because it's such an incredibly shitty business.

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It's so funny you said that. I find myself, as we get older, telling more and more people, stay away from this industry.

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I do. Yeah. And to what Dan was saying about being absolutely blessed, this is like our fourth layoff experience with ESPN. And each time we've survived it, and it could be because we either were recently signed or we had good relationships with management. And obviously something's changed. Right. You see the writing on the wall. The show is shrinking. We're now on edge. It's not actually shrinking.

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It seems like the moves they make make it feel like they're trying to shrink us, but it continues to grow. And again, we can't we cannot articulate to you enough like your support is meaningful. It is something that is tangible. What are you laughing about?

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God's ability? Go ahead. I may just take a shot at me because it's very funny. I mean, well, it's two guys is saying that he tells younger people they'll get into this industry. And I'm telling him that so that the younger people don't come and take a shot at self serving there.

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We're shrinking across mediums that I've never really cared too much about it. Now, that might be my failings as executive producer, but we keep growing in the one space that I've cared about almost exclusively for several years. And that's a podcast. And each single one of these movies keeps making it bigger. It also it's made the Greg Codi show featuring Greg Cody a little bit bigger. This is a weird dynamic for radio. No one really gets into Chris position as a career.

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No one really sets aside here my hopes and dreams. I'm going to be a radio producer. It's really an entry level job and you use it to keep sending. Part of the reason why we stick is because we're such an outlier. People don't stay together as unit and we have so many exceptions to the rule. Look, we were producing a daily part of ESPN Radio for two years without being ESPN employees. We were employed by Entercom and Lincoln Financial.

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There's all sorts of unique things that come along with this show and the fact that there wasn't a conversation being had.

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No, I you know, my dad, of course, was letting me know that he was there for me. If he if that wanted to be the way that I announced it, it was very nice of him, very heartwarming. I could feel the love felt with him. Yes. Yes. And then, you know, I could have just said nothing and let it, like, come out. However, you guys said it like because I was envisioning this show being without me.

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So I was like I kind of wanted to control the messaging and let my appreciation for ESPN get out there. And that was kind of important to me. And I didn't know if I did it first on the podcast, if that would be conveyed. I didn't want ESPN to think I was trying to sensationalize this announcement, so I wanted to do it even as your dad tried to sensationalize this.

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And then he he didn't understand that, like, tug of war I was having.

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Like, he's just like what it has to be announced. So I can't we just do it on the podcast and it's just like I want this to like I am appreciative for ESPN, so I want to get out there first and then however the reaction happens to it, we'll just deal with that. But it was important to me to, like, control the messaging.

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And how about now in terms of fear, like what's happening right now as we sit here? Because we honestly don't know. This is not this is not a bit I don't know how this is going to go over. I really am curious. Like, I think there's the possibility that people will not notice for weeks that he is here just because it's a big company. A lot of people oversee a lot of different things. And because we're now on ESPN plus like I don't see a lot of executives actively watching this show on ESPN.

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Plus, it's not like they're going to watch walk by their televisions and just see that someone who was laid off last week with much fanfare is still on their televisions on ESPN.

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We'll see. I feel like they're probably paying attention today. I mean, I don't know. I mean, you're big. Mike's laughing.

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I don't know. We're this is our first full CAS experience on ESPN plus. And I actually had a funny conversation with ESPN. Plus, I was on a meeting announcing that we were on ESPN plus and I had to break it to people that we've actually been on ESPN Plus for four years, available on video, on demand. And they had all sorts of questions about commercial music. I should have shut my mouth because I know no one knew that we were on this just from how the goal was going.

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But now I can't use music as a bit anymore on the show. I have to take it out of program because it just dawned on them that we've been playing commercial music on video on demand for five years.

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Oh, my God. All right. So another way that the show. So the club is dead now that the club is going to suck if you're watching on ESPN plus or so.

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But can we play it anywhere? I mean, we can all play it on your headphones, but what happens on ESPN plus still needs to be figured out.

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Maybe we have royalty free music that goes on, but it'll now look and sound like the podcast does where you don't have commercial music. But at least we always whenever we were celebrating a big heat victory or doing things like playing Neil Diamond's America, there was a portion of the audience that was either listening live or watching live. It got the joke and now it's just going to be us. And that's kind of stupid.

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So did you get right to work, like as your personal assistant?

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Has he done anything for you yet while he wasn't returning my calls quickly enough one day, that's his way of showing that's here about the job that's has been his one of his first acts was just missing a call of mine because he was busy getting a haircut.

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And when he says that he is talking about a single hair, he goes in one haircut.

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I'm super excited about Dan requesting gluten free quinoa smoothies at ten thirty on Saturday nights.

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I'm super excited about you trying to deliver it and realizing your badge isn't working anymore. I'm super excited I have to pay for any of this.

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Can you can you tell us, Chris, what the outpouring, what the outpouring has been and felt like? Because again and I just I can't say this enough because you guys are just overwhelming. Like, who does that? Who starts petitions, who figures out their own way to let people know, hey, I'm not good with this. Like, I, I value I just I was stunned, even understanding's to God that people come to our mass events and they love us.

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And what we do is loyal and sticky, the part that I was stunned by. And I want you to think about this because I don't feel like it has a whole lot of precedent anywhere in radio. It's a producer on a radio show, and ESPN has never been flooded by complaints, by anything that they've done, the way they're getting flooded with complaints about the letting go of a producer.

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To your credit, it's not just a producer because to your credit, you have formed this family. This is a dysfunctional family, but everyone has an on air role and the audience grows at. If you're a part of it, the audience will love you and they'll love you forever and they'll do anything for you, any one of us they'll do, I feel like. And so they continue. I'm telling you, Dad and I are 20 years into this.

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Their support continues to blow me. It's stunning. I stunning big crocodile tears from Stuart. We we both noticed the love for the shipping container. I feel like at the same time where they were on a stage at one of our events before they became the mass events. And there was real adulation going on there. And they were a little floored by the intensity of the warmth. And you and I both started crying to God, of course, with the largest of crocodile tears.

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But Chris, what is it that you can tell us about how the how the outpouring reached you? My God, like from people I know, texting like all the like people in our family of and people people I don't even know at ESPN, Tim Kurkjian sent me this long voice.

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He's the only person that didn't go text with the DM or text. Like he called me and he sent me a message. It was so nice, like so many people reaching out. And then the fans like, good God, so many screenshots from people reaching out to that fan support like it like Sunday night was. So because I kept it together from when I learned it on Thursday and then on Sunday when I finally tweeted it out, I sat in my back porch during a monsoon and just I was crying.

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It was so moving the support. And it was one of the things that I expected some support, but I was floored. And it's just like it makes me it's insane, to be honest.

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Were you crying because of the listener reaction or were you crying because you have a quarterback for the next two decades?

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I mean, going lie this weekend wasn't too bad. I wish I had the loser game show. Sound machine doesn't work.

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We've got we have so neglected down here. I have an A printer that works in three months like we are a weed growing in the ESPN radio empire. I've been asking Mike for a printer for three months. After asking for a microphone for three months, I offered to go buy one and split it with you.

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I was lying, but I did offer.

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It's funny, Chris had a literal flood of emotions over the weekend. Curious timing to put that on the timeline as everyone in South Florida is getting excited about the quarterback. But, hey, I guess Greg Cody's inclined to do it however you want.

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I didn't want to tell you how to grieve. I would have suggested maybe not that way, but go ahead, Chris.

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Do you guys know I don't know what the fan support for people if they want to keep doing it, because it was a very grassroots movement. And I don't know actually how it is if you want to. And please be respectful, don't don't call anybody names and stuff. But your your power has been felt. Hey, I know I joke around here a lot, Chris, about the rage of Tim Kurkjian because he's never actually been rabid with any of us.

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It's just a running joke joke that he's a sweet, sweet, decent man who everyone loves. He called me and he was that kind of angry, like, no, no joke. It's the angriest I've ever seen. And I've been friends with Tim Kurkjian for about three decades.

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It's it's the angriest that I've ever heard him outside of telling him Ozzie Smith wasn't a Hall of Famer. I won't even even look at him. I look at Billy. Billy. That's true, though. I mean, Billy has carved out a lane. Billy, you are an anarchist. And as a contrarian, you really have carved out a lane of bothering the legends, the sportswriting legends around here with your takes, like you're almost never happier than when you bother Bob Ryan or Tim Kurkjian with some young guy take and you just sort of light the fuse and then walk away in slow motion.

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Enjoying the explosion.

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You mean just move? What do you mean? Is Billy tell you you just made in the Jogo Bready of sports radio? I have no idea who that is.

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Neither do I. Who is that? Cobra. Jesus Christ. That's the magic code name was come through behind and everything blew up. I mean it's just so it is really. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Hold on, hold on. Sylvester Stallone movie Cobra, which is. What are we talking about 1988. Here is the reference you made. You just referred to Stallone's character. How many people are going to know that reference to God that you just made?

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Nobody.

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But yes, he had a matchstick in his mouth and he would would he liked it often or did he just light it in the one signature move of rubbing against his beard and then throw it?

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He no, he lit it off his tooth. OK, and first off, he had poured he had doused everything in gasoline, walked away from the things he doused in gasoline and lit the match off of his to throw it behind him. Everything blew up. He had a big smile on Roy.

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You are you are seven when it comes to minutia around here and knowing things that nobody cares about. Were you aware that what is the name of Cobra? Sylvester Stallone, John Carburetor, Jack Bready.

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Were you aware of that? Roy Yes, I was.

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Cobra such a much better title than Kabaddi is a totally different movie. Ready? Ready is what? I ordered an Italian restaurant. I don't want just the Cobra. I want it ready.

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I said. And this is a rare mistake for me and the Cobra front. I stand corrected. It was Marion Cobra. Oh, OK. I think I'm ready.

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I think we're good. Well, wait a minute. I think we might have caught ruin a line by not correcting, not correcting gods there on that. I knew his last name was good.

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Ready. Didn't know his first name but. Yeah. Maryland. Yeah, that's his name.

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Does it look like a Marijan. Chris, let's talk some more. Also, a different movie, cobra if you make it Merrion instead of. Or Cobra, Chris, let's talk more about what an asshole your father is, tell me more stories about what happened this weekend with him. Again, if you if you do not know, Greg Cody got a big boost. He was also telling me that his newspaper story on this in the Herald got more clicks than like anything except the biggest of hurricane coverage on the Miami Herald.

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He's been waiting for his son to get fired his entire life. It was a weird thing to watch him, Chris, because he kept giving voice to how heartfelt his pain was.

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But also, while angling at every turn for the story, I'm convinced that he is genuinely upset that I'm back with the show. No, because, I mean I mean, I'm that's kind of kidding.

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But the way he's acted and how excited he's been for this bump for his podcast, like he would coat everything with this is them showing how much they love you. This is all you look what you did. And it's just like, but dad, you're celebrating this. You're texting this to all your friends. And he literally, like I said it before, he wants to frame a picture. He wasn't kidding about that. He was framed. That picture of my pain.

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He wants to frame the picture that comes from one of the worst weekends of my entire life.

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Look what you did. You got fired. Yes. It is such a weird thing for Cody now. I do think I do think if he had simply betrayed you the way he betrayed me in terms of announcing my engagement, that would have been a magical way for that story to end up breaking Greg Cody against the wishes of his son, not understanding that his son would like to do it his way simply breaks the story and makes you eat the consequences.

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It also probably would have been horrible for him because at the moment, Dominique Foxworth is the only one who seems to hate your father. And I'm forever baffled by this. I really do need to work with those focus groups on my likeability that Greg Cody continues to do things like this and you guys like him and love him, even though these are things that are unspeakably foul.

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I genuinely lied to my dad about when I was going to tweet that out, so he didn't scoop me like he wanted to scoop me, he wanted to send that article out without a tweet.

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And I'm just like I and then I just text him the tweet. Ha, ha, got you. And then he sent out the article immediately like he had that thing. Copy and paste it, like, ready to go.

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I just can't believe the guts that we are in a place, though, where that kind of movement is what you get. I want you to give me a precedent. As someone who actually knows sports radio and the life of sports radio, somebody a producer being let go. And I use just a producer in quotes, just a producer being let go and an army of people inundating the worldwide leader in sports in a way that the worldwide leader in sports is not equipped or not used to handling.

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I honestly, I don't think you'll find it in in sports radio because the show is so unique in that way, where the producers are also part of the on air content and a large part of it. So I'm not certain you'll find it. I think you'll find it with Howard Stern, you know, within a show like that, if one of his producers were let go, which they never are, by the way. But if Gary was let go, I think you would get a similar reaction from the Howard Stern audience.

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Can you explain this part to me, Mike? And I don't want to get lost in the weeds or the muck on this one, because I do want to tell the audience again and explain this. All this context probably won't be used if any of the blogs end up running with whatever is said here, but. I am and we are really understanding that this has been a hard time for the company, a hard time for the country, and that we were less affected than most.

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So my hurt or our hurt, I can say, is not because this happened, because I understand it happening. My hurt is coming in after highly questionable and seeing the look on my face. And it's not a look I've ever seen on his face. We had a couple of other things that we were supposed to tape and he just looked sort of scared, ashen and wounded. It's like someone would look if I legitimately thought that he had gotten the horrible news of someone passing because he he he he looked so hurt by this.

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This is important because we do realize the times and the challenges for ESPN and our bosses. And we realized that obviously we're not immune to any of any of the cuts going on at the company. But Dan is always has always asked and wanted to be partners with his bosses. And a partnership means, hey, if you're going to do something, let's discuss it on the front end and see if we could figure and work out. And that's that's what Dan is really just what the parts got.

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See, I understand the need for these things to be somewhat confidential. Like I get how they should largely be confidential. But ESPN and I get this part two as a corporation cause they never want to set anything in the way of precedence, because the moment that Trey Wingo does cameo, then Stewart is in an office saying, I want to do a cameo, too. So the easiest way to manage these things is just not to set the precedent.

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You tell nobody. But the part that I don't understand and makes us play the imaging at our bosses that I don't understand is how do you not recognize that while I don't want for us to be something that is treated incredibly differently, we are very different than everything in your environment, in that when I'm walking into a room, I'm not walking into a board op that has just been there for three months.

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You don't get the show. I'm walking in and finding out that one of my best friends and a mentor that his son, who I have literally known since he is a child, has been let go and nobody told me anything. And it's like nobody gave me any kind of heads up on anything so that I could maybe do something that wouldn't trigger what's been triggered by this.

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We're a collective. We're an ensemble. We have all sorts of precedent to point to within this show that predated ESPN when when our property was assumed by ESPN, we weren't Disney employees, not all of us. You were shoegaze. Was everybody in the shipping container? Wasn't for the first couple of years. So we have that precedent. And look, I understand layoffs are part of this business, but it's like bad boys. We ride together. We die together.

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Right. So you can't take you might as well take some shots off the name. You might as well take. Dan, it's that it's that serious.

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Well, I was thinking, Mike, do you think I don't know how to do this and how to slow play this? Because I am genuinely curious whether the people at ESPN are going to notice that Chris Coady is still with us, whether some people at ESPN notice.

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I want, though, to sort of I don't know if we can do this today, but to call my dad and sort of change the imaging so that it becomes the Chris Coatis show with Dan Levitan and got for a day finally got the end.

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I was thinking about I was thinking about figuring out how to how to crowdsource and just want to let it breathe a little bit and see how this one plays out.

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A little bit like the rap dance, an old school.

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I want to see if we should crowdsource too aggressive to crowdsource. Chris Itzler.

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There has been a grassroots movement at ESPN fan support. So keep doing that one. We don't need a ribbon dance.

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I will tell you this, by the way, just so that you know, no local hour today, this is going to be standalone local hour and big Stewie.

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This because we saw what happened to Greg Cody's podcast numbers. And I kind of want that because that is the reason. OK, I thought it's because we were coming in late, we weren't organized and we're tired and we don't we've been not sleeping all week, got knock off BMD.

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And if you want more this stupidity later this week with Chris, you shut up. He's hosting it.