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Here's Troy now Cowboys quarterback from UCLA. All right, so, Troy, I think we know why we're here. You just you made a video when you watch Deon being like, I want me to report on this. So here we are. I don't know why. Well. I'll tell you. Yeah, no, the you know, so I came across you on Instagram and I'm not sure exactly how, but what what I saw was the first ten times I saw you, you were doing these pizza.

That's a lot of people know me. Yeah.

And I thought, well, this is this is interesting. And then then when you started with your fund, I thought that was really cool. I've seen you on Fox News. I've seen you on CNN, MSNBC. I've seen you on all those different news shows. I'm kind of a news junkie. And and then with the whole Robin Hood situation, I think just like there were a lot of things along the way that our paths kept crossing along with Deon's relationship with barstool and.

And I always thought every time I saw you, there was an intelligence about your answers and the way you handled everything, and yet we're very authentic and unyielding to what your beliefs were. And so I just thought, wow, this guy, I like this guy. I like his approach. I like his whole demeanor. And and so what? I'm there with Danine. I didn't even know they were filming it or anything. But I'm thinking, you know, I really and I said it to some other people, which is so unlike me, I think the people who know me were blown away by that, because rarely do I ever say that, hey, I really want to meet this particular person.

I'm just not that type of guy. But know, you've been impressive and I admire what you've done and you've helped a lot of people and you kind of stuck to your values and your principles. And I think it's really, really cool. So I'm a fan and I'm thrilled to be on the show.

Well, I don't know what to say to that. That was like you said, I'm surrounded by people who work for me trying to tear me down. That was like the nicest nice intro I've ever had. So I appreciate it. And, you know, it's interesting because I've been doing this thing now for close to two decades. So, you know, there's people who've been with me from the beginning when I was, like, handing out newspapers to I feel like during quarantine a lot more for whatever reason, whether it was Robin Hood, the bar stool fund D on a bunch of different factors coming across.

And and, you know, a guy like you.

First of all, I was stunned when I saw the clip because it wasn't there's no like there's no back story to it. It's just sent to me blank. I opened it. I saw you. I'm like, what is this going to be? And then I saw what you said.

So I want to look at a deal. I want to meet Portnoy. I follow him. I'm impressed. I'm impressed. Yeah. Yeah. The guy's got balls, you know.

And as I've grown, I don't know how to say this. People have at times been afraid to attach themselves to me who may know me.

And I have a lot of well known people. But as time has gone, that seems as starting to go away. And they're afraid because I always say kind of what I feel. I've gotten in trouble for some of the stuff that I've said. But if I generally don't think I was wrong or it was taken out of context or like I made a joke that people like, hey, that's not funny. It's like, yeah, but it clearly is a joke.

I don't mean like what people drag it. I'll never apologize.

And then that gets goes into I almost go back and forth who I call the no fun club or people really hate me and then they'll take my sarcastic responses and if you look at them out of context, they're really bad.

So it's interesting because as Brazil's grown, we become more and more well known and I feel like people are more willing lately to attach, not attach, but be like, yeah, I'm a personal guy. Do you agree that, Eddie?

Well, I think the I think the thing that I understand what you're saying, I think that, you know, I find myself, of course, through my broadcasting career and on the football side of things that.

You know, sometimes you make a comment about something and it's what you believe and then it gets misconstrued or there's a reaction to it and. I've said things over the years and on different platforms to where I felt strongly with what it is that I've said, it hasn't always been received as I would like, but yet I'm kind of with you. I think that, you know, my intentions are never to try to attack somebody or to try to be controversial or anything else.

When I say something, it's it's what I truly believe, you know, and it's how I really feel. And so if I'm saying it, then I'm not going to back off of that, you know, and that's not to say that I'm that I'm always right. I mean, there have been times when I've had to come back, say, look, you know what, you know, I apologize. But no, I admire that. I admire I admire people who have convictions.

I mean, I don't know you that well, obviously. I mean, I don't know you at all. We've never met in person. I only know what I've seen. And so, you know, who knows after this, some people say, hey, do you know what, Dave Portnoy, they will exact and I don't know I don't know all that stuff. All I know is that what I see is someone who's who's been appears to be very genuine, authentic.

I like what you've been doing and and you've been unabashed as far as what you believe. I think the whole Robin Hood thing, you know, you took on some some pretty big people and stood behind what you said on every interview that I saw. I thought, wow, that's why I said when I was there in Jackson, Mississippi, they said, well, why do you want to meet him? I said, I think the guy's got big balls, you know?

I mean, I and I do I say, you know, I, I admire that, that there's some conviction there. And what you believe and I happen to agree I guess that's what makes it work is that I agree with the way you took them on and and what you had to say. I don't think it was right. I think a lot of people were impacted. It's not right. And and you were one of the few to really stand up and say, yeah, and I still feel that way.

One of the things and it is kind of full circle because so when I posted that, I said because it was a surreal moment for me, I grew up, I was actually, believe it or not, when I was really young as a Vikings fan. So I was like a Vikings fan when they did the Herschel Walker trade. And then I saw the Patriots are terrible and I became like twelve.

I switched the Patriots. So I've been watching it my whole life through the Cowboys dynasty. I hated you guys as most people did. Either you love you guys are hated guys in your dynasty. So to see you say that was surreal to me.

I post that clip and I bet you're clearly very well aware people view me.

And I don't think this is correct. I've said it a lot as a in a hardcore conservative, like a Trump guy, because I'm on Fox News a lot. And the fact of the matter is, I think sometimes people don't even listen to what I say on Fox News because I'm pretty down the middle and I've always said, hey, if CNN invites me, I'll go. Fox invites me, I'll go. I didn't know this about the comments you made.

I don't even know the flyover comments that you made.

But I was surprised knowing just what I from the outside kind of. But when I put you up, the people who think I'm the conservative, I go Troy.

He hates the military, hates this. Now, I've seen you clarify those, but is that one of the comments that you were talking? So did you know about these comments he made, which I'm just reading them on paper and saw your response and almost sounds like you made them. Well, I'll let you explain them.

Well, yeah. And and actually know those those were not. Although I will tell you this, David, that I mean, obviously we're we're in a highly energized times, you know, that I think that everyone on the right thinks the left is socialist. Everyone on the left thinks the right is racist. And somewhere in the middle is where we kind of all congregate. And I believe that.

First of all, I have supported the military my entire life. So for anyone to suggest otherwise or that I don't back the military or our men and women in uniform is is is grossly wrong. And, you know, I know back four or five years ago, whenever it was when the police officers got ambushed in downtown Dallas and I tweeted something about that situation, and that was the first time I'd ever heard about Black Lives Matters. And and I got criticized because I was saying that, hey, all lives matter in these police officers.

They just got taken down, you know? And so I find myself and, you know, I still but the comments as far as before the game, what was funny about that is I love a flyover. I said that in my statement after the fact. It was not a situation where we were in the booth and the might we didn't know the mikes were on. We knew the mikes were hot. We were talking to the people in our truck.

And so the anthem just finished. Here comes the flyover. And you could see this jet stream. And I just made the comment that, wow, that's a lot of jet fuel for a flyover. There was hardly anybody in the stands. But I was just I was just thinking, gosh, that's a lot of expense for a flyover. It wasn't that I don't like a flyover. It was nothing like that. There was nothing political in that in that comment.

And then Joe being who Joe is before we go on the air, we usually joke around and kid around whatever Joe kind of is in a joking way, says, hey, that's your tax dollars or something.

That's your hard earned money and your tax dollars at work. And I jokingly said, well, yeah, well, that's not going to happen under the common law abiding ticket or some of that stuff ain't happening with Comilla Biden ticket, I'll tell you that right now.

And they're all of a sudden, you know, somebody with an agenda. And I don't know we still don't know who somebody leaks that as though this was breaking information as to where Joe and Troy stand on the political spectrum. It was No. One. And then I'm handcuffed as far as what you can, actually, you know, because you're going to alienate people no matter how you try. I just said, hey, you know, let it go.

But anyone who knows me knows where I stand when it comes to, I guess, even my political beliefs. What I think is important in our country where I am with the military, where I am with the men and women in uniform, all of those things. I'm very involved in a lot of those causes and a lot of those things that are important to me. So then and then I think that's what pains me the most, is that, you know, when I was a kid, I was about seven years old and the Vikings and and the Raiders are playing in the Super Bowl and I'll never forget it.

I made my mom and dad get up, put their hand over their heart and stand for the national anthem, you know, I mean, so it pains me for anyone to think that that I'm not a patriot or that I don't support our military because nothing could be further from the truth.

So for me and I get caught, I feel like you said something that I've said publicly a gazillion times.

I hate the extreme left and I hate the extreme right. They're both equally nuts in my mind. And what you said, most people are in the middle and want to get along and there's a lot of gray areas, but unfortunately, things are left to right. I haven't heard you. I'm always in these. I feel like lately people want to politicize almost everything I do. I was even telling Eddie before this. I got asked to speak on the Senate hearings for small business and it was a Republican like group who asked me, I'm like, yeah, I'll do it now.

Like, OK, well, we want to sit down with you and hear your views before you go on as like. Well, I'm not doing that like I believe. I believe. And if you don't like it, but I'm going to say what I think and is probably aligns with them. But it's like it everything has agendas.

How hard was it?

Because I haven't remembered since I've been following you, which is not super close, but a big football guy, you been in that type of situation and I've kind of been able to tune it out.

But it is frustrating when people just say things that are are not only faults, but like way off your character. So is that something hard for you to deal with with those?

It's not so well, I'll tell you what's hard, what's hard for me. I mean, I think there's two rules of thought here in that some people would say. Hey, as long as I know that it's that it's not true, as long as I know that, hey, I'm being I'm being attacked for something that's not true, whatever that is, whatever that might be, then you say, OK, well, who cares? I mean.

Right. And but in this situation, this one was more troubling to me, because if if if like we were talking about to begin with, if you feel strongly about something and you take a position and then you get criticized for that, but you're being criticized because people understand where you are on that issue or what your position is, then you say, OK, well, that's fine. Not everybody has to agree with that. But when you're being attacked for something that's not accurate and it's totally not who you are, that that becomes a little bit more challenging.

I mean, you know, I've never been on that scale, but I get it. I mean, social media, everybody's got a platform. Everybody is able to communicate and tell you how they feel. And I've and I've gotten a lot of it from a lot of a lot of people saying that, hey, how can you not back our military? And that, like I said a minute ago, that that pains me because there's not a lot of things in my life that I would say, hey, people better be able to understand this about me or should understand this about me.

But that is one of them. And, you know, I don't hold. Anyone really in higher regard than those that fight for the very freedoms that we have in this country, I mean, I'm grateful each and every day for their sacrifices and what they do. And I think that we're finally kind of at a point in time this has gone on for the last 20 years or whatever it's been that we finally truly acknowledge our military and what they have meant to us in our lifetimes.

We have seen it. And so, yeah, that was that was hard. But at the end of the day, you know, people then move. I'm not I'm not egotistical enough or narcissistic enough to think that people are dwelling on my world or, you know, people have their own lives. And I think you put it in its proper place and you move on onto lighter subjects.

And this is one's put you on the spot.

So I hadn't met Deon until he came to work with us, and I've said this from my perception of what I thought he was going to be to what he is, I probably had maybe nobody has surprised me more in like 20 years of doing this, like wildly impressed with everything about them, far more calculating the prime time thing I get. But like, he controls it way more. He's just a different guy than I think. If you didn't know him, you'd be like, oh, my God, this is not what I thought I was getting.

Yeah.

Is there anybody else in your career or who would you say, like another guy that you've played with, known celebrity that doesn't add up like that. The that does doesn't like the image of Mike Donovan I met quickly, he'd be another guy.

I expect to be like, well, that's who I that's who I was going to say is, is Michael Irvin. And I think I think both those guys are very similar. I think there's a public persona that people then draw conclusions that they know what this person's all about or how they're wired. Or I will say, sticking with Deon, I. I could not be more proud of him. I mean, I am really, really proud for what he is doing there.

Jackson State, you know, Deon has one of the he is a polarizing guy. And a lot of that is by design. Right. That's kind of who he is. He likes that. He and I came into the league together back in nineteen eighty nine in the same draft when he went to Atlanta. We competed, of course, and then then he came to Dallas and we were teammates. So I've kind of on the athletic fields. I've seen him in all situations.

But, you know, he gets into coaching and he was helping a lot of young kids. A lot of people didn't really see that. But his kids were also involved and he was coaching them at the high school level. But to really put himself out there the way that he has, I think validates all that he's done up to this point as a coach. And now it's no longer hey, I'm kind of hi, I'm the coordinator. I'm not the head coach.

So I'm not you know, he's he's out there. And I think there's only going to be bigger things in his future. I think he's going to be great. He already has finished doing at Jackson State. I'm thrilled. I'm watching the games and went to his opener. And and I think that he'll you know, however far he wants to take this, I think he's going to do it. And in the process of doing that, as you've seen, that he's he's making a real impact in young people's lives.

And at his core, he's an old school guy. Yeah. And I love that. I mean, I love that. I love the old school approach. And and that's him. And and Michael's the same way. My there was nobody when I was playing that practiced harder than Michael Urban, you know, and why we were good. Yeah, we were talented, but we worked harder than everybody else too. And that was six days a week, five days a week.

We were off on Tuesdays and then it showed up on Sundays. We went out and played. But Michael was the guy leading the charge each and every day out there on the practice field and created an environment where it was highly competitive. And we had a lot of guys like that, and that's why we were as successful as we were.

What's wrong with the Cowboys? I always put it and I'll give you my my interpretation and then you can play off it. And I know you probably won't throw your guy under the bus.

I, as an owner would be exactly like Jerry Jones. I actually if I was the owner, I'd call the place like it's my team.

I love football. I'd call the plays. I do it all. And if we win, great. And if we lose, well, I'm the owner. It's my toy and I love it and I want to be involved. So I think, you know, when they do good, it's him. But they've been bad now for a long time. And to me, they have Pazzi coaches because he wants to have his thumb. And that's probably from why would say Jimmy left, because it's like a little bit of a power struggle.

I could be wrong. So it all starts and stops with Jerry because he wants the power. Yeah, I think that what you said is that you would call the play. Yeah, I mean, you would be you'd be the owner, the head coach.

I don't want the pressure. I just Sunday, I show up, I put on the headset. I call the plays.

Yeah. So I have said over the years that. It's kind of tongue in cheek, but then it's kind of not that I think that, Jerry. Should name himself as the head coach, you know, because then. You know, then I think that it's kind of like what I just said with Don, with Don took this head coaching job at Jackson State. He totally exposed now. I mean, now he's the one who has to do it all.

And I think that that would be the case for Jerry. I think some of the things that make the job challenging for a head coach would then be different if Jerry, of course, was the head coach and the guy who everyone had to answer to and was there every day and and that he was the guy directly criticized when the team was struggling.

If that makes sense, yeah, it makes perfect sense. He he seems like a guy. And again and quite honestly, I think I think I like the credit.

What's going good in the blame? Give it to somebody else and it's going bad. Yeah. No. Well, that's what you can't do that, coach. You don't you don't get to just pass the blame. But I think he would be really good, quite honestly. I think Jerry would be a really good head coach. You know, if he if he really invested himself in that role, he's pulled in a million different directions. He's got a lot going on.

I mean, he's he's he's he's a great salesman. We understand that. He's smart with his impact has been for the National Football League is phenomenal. I mean, his place in the history of our game is going to be extremely prominent. One of the one of the most prominent of anybody who's passed through the halls. So it's been unfortunate that the Cowboys have struggled the way that they have. And when I say struggled, I think our organization has is is at a point where people are only counting championships.

And and so for this team not to have been to even a playoff game and forever.

Right.

Only they've only won a few. So. Yeah. So it's been since I played in ninety five since that, since the Cowboys last made it to an NFC championship game and for, for, for an organization with the history that the Cowboys have, that's kind of hard to put your head around. But hopefully with Dak I'm a huge fan of Dak. They got him signed and I'm hopeful that better days are ahead.

So you alluded to it, though, and I don't know if Jerry's the type of guy I don't care if, like his X Hall of Fame players criticize him, he gets mad. But what you just said, he's being pulled in all different directions. But I don't think he's letting go because he's still there. And that's a tough spot to be when you're when you're involved and not involved that I think that's what you said without maybe want him to be wide.

You say that. Yeah, no, I'm I think that there's a lot of good that comes with Jerry that has been really positive for the Cowboys and for the brand. I mean, it's obviously a very visible organization. There's been times when when the team has, you forget, eight and eight. There's been times when the team's been really poor and yet they lead off, you know, every sportscast. People around the country want to hear about the cowboys.

People either love them or the hate them. I think Jerry Jones is a big reason why I think Jerry by himself is able to keep the Cowboys relevant. Now, with that, when you have that type of a personality, who's that involved? You alluded to it. It's one of the reasons why he didn't work with Jimmy and Jerry. Now, I've always said it's not all on Jerry that that didn't work out. I think Jimmy kind of wanted he kind of wanted to go to Jimmy Zikos just as big.

So, you know, you get two big personalities like that. I do think that had had that success have come later for both of those guys. They would have found a way to make it work because they would they wouldn't have taken for granted just what we had. And they had a lot of coaches who have left the building and gone on to other organizations, you know, for the last twenty five years and say what we had during that time in the early 90s.

They've never been able to replicate. It just doesn't happen very often, you know, but it happened for us. I came in the same year as Jimmy and Jerry. Yeah. It happened for us within the first five years after being the worst team in football. And I think I think a lot of us, some more than others, thought it was probably a little easier to do than it really was. Now, I am a diehard Patriot fan.

So can you talk about Eagles and different now? You started out as a Vikings fan. What's a lot of that was till I was like twelve.

I thought I thought, yeah, the helmets look like candy to me, so I want to eat it.

And the Patriots like 016, Scott Zol Achara, which I was busses balls about, I mean, they weren't they weren't winning games.

This was I like them throughout the whatsoever. OK, you didn't you didn't just jump on the back. No, no.

I was already on them by then. But before all that. But a question I've been asked can and I love it. I went to jail for Brady. I don't know if you know that like literally did not know that. Yeah. So Roger Goodell hates me. I'm banned from the NFL. Like he dragged me to the Super Bowl in handcuffs, literally.

Really? Yeah. See, I told you, there's some stuff you could you know, I'm gonna have to start walking back later. What time is that? I think I got a good go. No, no joke.

So we were huge, you know, huge Patriot fans and deflate gate happened and we couldn't have been more on Tom's side. So there's no proof. Even if he did it, you haven't had a shred of evidence. You're bending the rules. And I said, we're going to do something here. If they do something to our guy, Brady, we're going to have to make a scene. So when he got suspended, myself and three other guys handcuffed ourselves to each other at NFL headquarters and demanded to speak to Roger Goodell.

We got thrown in jail, spent the night in jail. That's my like Twitter avatar. I have a one two on my face and the judge saw us. And by the way, they put us in with, like, the murderers and stuff in New York prison. The judge looks at us like, what are you guys doing here? We're like, well, Tom Brady got suspended, so they threw the case out.

That started an ongoing war with Roger. Have you ever seen the Roger Goodell like clown Schertz?

Like Patricia wore it the same Saints coach Sean Payton with us?

Oh, yeah. We had the first time he came back to Gillette, we had 70000 of those towels in the crowd.

The Krafts called me and they said we never let anything in the stadium here, but we're going to turn the other way and let you bring these towels, said Jonathan Kraft signed the wall of our office, the only news organization that gets it right 100 percent of the time.

So, I mean, it was we were going at him. Fast forward to the it was the Rams Super Bowl. I show up to Media Day and all of a sudden I'm getting surrounded by all these suits from the NFL. And I had a mustache on and they're like, they kicked me out, but I walked.

I went gently, which I regretted. I walked out and they sat me down. They said, you can't go to the Super Bowl. I go, well, I bought a ticket. I paid five grand for a ticket.

So whatever Super Bowl comes, I go to the Super Bowl mustache halftime. All of a sudden the security starts circling again and you got to go.

And I refused to go. So about ten people picked me up, dragged me out, put me in handcuffs. And it's just been an ongoing war with him literally since. So, yeah. I'm I'm Roger Goodell's enemy number one.

It's enemy number one still to this day. To this day. It was just crazy because he's had multiple opportunities to to just almost make light of it like, all right, here's an example. I keep forgetting all these things, but so what?

During the NFL draft, during covid, Roger Goodell said we're going to donate money to frontline workers and whoever bids the most can watch Monday Night Football with me in my man cave. So I spent two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and I won this contest and the NFL got back to me, he said.

We did research and we have a file on you and you have a lot of issues. We're not going to allow file there.

All you you didn't have to look that hard. Every issue is you. So they they wouldn't let me do that either.

Took the money right out of kids, the front line workers, mouse, etc.. So, yes, it's very recent. It's very long. So I got I this is my patriot love. I actually before Tom went and one other Super Bowl and I'm his he knows like I've I want a great relationship but we definitely know each other.

I said I would take the coach over the quarterback. I said I would take Belichick. This is prior to winning the Super Bowl. And I still think there's a lot to be left to write in the story because I think, look, I think Bill will be motivated now, even more so if he wasn't. So what is your take? What is your take on what happened with the Patriots and where do you see it going? Well, you know, a few years ago, before the season began, there was all the conversation about these two aren't getting along.

And Brady had stayed away from the organization that offseason. A lot of people were making a big deal about it. And, you know, again, it goes back. That's kind of the world we're in. Everybody makes a big deal about everything. I didn't think anything of that because I just know that, gosh, I mean, having been through it, what we just talked about with Jimmy and Jerry that, yeah, these two guys, eventually, you know, people kind of grow tired of each other and, you know, in order to achieve what that organization had achieved, there was a lot there, a lot of big personalities.

And then Mr. Kraft fits into that as well. I mean, he's the third part of this. But I think that I had always asked the question, first of all, I think it's totally unfair that this year. That people wanted to then say, oh, OK, well, it was all then Tom Brady, you know, because of their success in New England. And, you know, Bill and Bill is I can't believe I'm having to say this bill is phenomenal.

Right. Bill's bill's amazing coach. I mean, and Tom went on and had a lot of pieces around him. I'm a huge fan of Tom Brady's. I just always ask the question back when they were together in New England, OK, who benefits more from the other? And I don't really know the answer to that. But what I knew was when I played for Jimmy Johnson, I got to just go play football. I got to just go be a quarterback.

I got to just be a good teammate to the guys in the locker room. That's what Tom Brady got to do. You know, for 20 years in New England, he got to be a quarterback, a great teammate, and just focus on football and not worry about a lot of other things that are happening in the organization. And then when Jimmy left in Dallas, nobody was picking up the slack. And I found myself, you know, having to be the heavy hand in a lot of situations and trying to do what I felt needed to be done in order for us to win.

And and that's exhausting. So I think that Tom clearly benefited from those things, from Bill with the structure and the way that he ran things and and and then. Bill benefited from having a great quarterback, so it was it was a perfect situation. And then Mr. Kraft let them all kind of do their thing and he didn't require too much attention. You know, he obviously was highly respected. I think the world of him, of him also.

But I was thrilled. I was really pulling for Tom for no reason to do with him leaving New England. Things happen, you know. I mean, I hated to see him put on another uniform, but he went to Tampa and I thought, heck, I hope he likes it up. I love the guy. I love everything he represents and what he stands for. And there was a time in the middle of the season I. I didn't think they would get it going, but.

But they did. And then for New England, there were games they won this year that no other coach would have been able to win. You know, I thought that some of the game planning that he was able to do with the pieces that he had, I thought were masterful. But they had a number of players who opted out before the season, good players, and then they just never really quite came together. But my belief is, is that they're going to make a hard run and free agency.

They're going to more than likely go after a quarterback that that they feel strongly about. And I would expect New England to be right there back in the middle of it again. You know, and I don't think any less of Bill Belichick. I I guess I think more of Tom, but that's hard to do for as high as I was, much as I thought of him. So anyway, I think I think, like you said, there's still a lot more to this story before it's all said and done.

A question still that I'm on the record already. So if you were a GM, have you ever thought of, by the way, have you ever had any interest in getting in that side of the football?

Yeah, I've I actually always thought that it's something that I would have done. The broadcasting really was great for me at a time in my life. I was a single dad raising my girls and and it gave me the flexibility of being home and not having to to go in in the morning. I was able to take them to school, pick them up from school. And I just was gone a couple of days over the weekend. Now, my youngest graduates this year from high school.

So now I'm at a point in my life where if I really wanted to go pursue that, I could. But I do love I love my life. I love my job. It's really good. And I'm pretty happy with it all.

So then the question is going to ask, was the GM hat? That's what triggered it. If you went back and say coaches are in the draft beginning of the careers, Brady or Belichick, who would you take?

Knowing you know, what they've done, but who would you take knowing knowing who they are? Well, I mean, I guess. I mean, at this point right now, at breaking times forty three years ago, I'm saying you get it, you start over, they're both coming out. Just say coaches are in the draft. So maybe you don't know. But there is one.

Even then even then, with Tom drafted where he was, I don't nobody could have predicted Tom going on to be Tom Brady.

But I think that I do think this David and I feel strongly about this. I was asked years ago, many years ago, hey, where are all the great quarterbacks? What happened to all the great quarterbacks? And I said, I don't think it's a question of where are all the great quarterbacks? I think it's more of a question of where are all the great coaches? Where are all the great offensive minds? Because I think there are a ton of quarterbacks over the years that have come into the league and that have left the NFL with a label of being a bust.

And I think that they have gone to a better situation. If they had had Bill Walsh coaching them, if they had had nor Turner coaching them or Mike Holmgren coaching them, their careers would have looked a lot different. And I know how my career started and I know how it got back on track. When North Turner came to Dallas and we were the last ranked offense in football, my second season in the league. And then he came in and when we went to ninth and then we were in the top five the next two years and we win Super Bowl.

So I, I think that you're where I am.

I think you're where I am. And without words, the coach, a great coach, I think is always going to be great. They're always going to find the people around, build the team a great quarterback if he's not in the right.

I don't care who you are. If you're if you take two steps back, the coach control, I think the coach in all of sports, every single sport, the head coach of an NFL team is, unless it's Jerry Jones, is the most important position in sports.

I think I have felt that in college you can win a lot of games with great talent and in college you can win a lot of games with great coaching in the NFL, you have to have both. You've got to have talent and you've got to have really good coaching. I mean, it's just too hard. And so, yeah, I'm I'm I know the same players are the ones who when they're the ones who get it done. Yes, that is true.

But the coaches have to be the ones who put them in the right position. So I've always valued coaching and what that means. And Bill Belichick, I'm just thrilled to to be here on Earth while he's doing it. And he'll be thought of. You know, I hold I'm asked a lot, hey, who would you have at a dinner if you could have a dinner at your house, whether they're living or have passed? And Vince Lombardi always has a seat at my dinner table.

And Bill Belichick is going to be thought of in the same way as Vince Lombardi already is. But as time passes, that's only going to grow. And and Tom Brady as well. I mean, he's right up these greatest to ever do it. So this is exciting stuff to be able to be around and watch these guys do it. Still.

I appreciate, Eddie, you've been you've been brilliant during this. Thank. Thanks a lot. We don't want to keep him too long, but it was nice to finally get to meet and maybe we'll actually get to meet in person sometime.

I would love it. I would love it. Thanks for having me. It remains a lot.

I appreciate it and appreciate the kind words. Those great media. You got to take care. Take care. Thanks, Truck. All right. So that was Troy Aikman, Dave.

Yeah, and, you know, I, I'm not good at interviewing people. It's not my forte. Why do you think that is?

Oh, I like hearing myself talk. I like being asked the question, but not that probably. But I'm not. You need planning, probably, right?

No, you do need planning for sure. But also, I feel like you're just generally not that interested in other people.

Yeah, it's a super insult. But I'm like, you want to be one of those guys who just isn't interested in other people.

But I'm not. But I think you are. I think that's true. I'm not interested in other people, correct? Yes, yeah, so I think that's why I don't like interviewing people. Yeah, I don't really care. You don't want to find me. It was until I found him interesting. He was interesting. We could have went for an hour and a half. Right.

I didn't stop it because I didn't find him to be interesting. But it's like sometimes I don't know whether or other I don't you know, I can I feel like tell when my content is good. But when I interview somebody, I'm just lost.

I don't I'm like, is this good? Is it running long? Do I have to stop? I can't take in too much of Troy's time to try not want to be. I don't know.

I just I was I was a spectator in that interview. Yeah, you didn't. But you said that beforehand. Yeah. Yeah. And I thought it was good. Like I enjoyed watching you guys talk. Yeah. Do you guys think it was.

But you know, I got but we have a lot of Yes. Men around. Yeah. Yeah. Like guys Paul will generally be like not wasn't that good. He's the only one I can trust with his opinion. I can't tell if that was. I've no idea whether people like that.

No, I think people will like it. I think people will find it interesting how a fucking Super Bowl Hall of Fame quarterback was like, yeah, I saw him. I liked what he did with Robin Hood.

It's crazy because that is I've you know, my my notoriety has gone up. And that's an illustration. He's right. Like, people just start seeing me like, oh, he's on Fox News.

Call her daddy fucking stock market. Robin Hood is like you just keep seeing me everywhere. And pretty soon, you know, I'm just in your brain.

Yeah. I've infiltrated your brain.

And what I want to say in between the connection was it was very clear that it was a non bullshit podcast. He sees you on the TV and he thought you were authentic and you could pretty much tell that Troy's pretty fucking authentic, too.

So I think that's where it's great as an announcer and it's great. Although he didn't come right out, I couldn't get him to say it's all Jerry Jones fault, but he kind of said it.

Well, what are you going to picture his shoes dancing around what's going on with the Cowboys? Because, you know, he shows up because right away. What's the general first question, Dave?

Like I you a pizza question maybe like, oh, what's with me? Yeah. What's the general first question people that I get.

Yeah. It just depends what's going on, like right now is Robin Hood, right? It's a lot of people ask me, stocks buzz, things like that, you know, call her daddy. It was the call her daddy. Parmly take launch was Palm.

I take whatever is the moment. Passell Sports. If the hiccups get the goddamn hiccups, well, what I'm trying to say is, you know, Troy is asked the same question. Yeah, every single time. Yeah, yeah, sure. Every single time. So I guess that's my point.

I mean, I do think you're just saying I asked some questions over, but. No, no, no, no, no. That's not what I said.

I'm just saying I to be that guy, but I guess I was I'm well versed in the questions. So he kind of knows an answer. But I mean, I do think some people in that picture yet the people that don't like us from that from your political conversation.

But I didn't think it was political. Everything's political, but I get what you're saying, but, you know, I listen, I told you when I posted that clip of Troy Aikman saying he wanted to meet me because I got big balls like I was I had no idea he said anything about the flyover and all people were making it was super political and I had no idea why.

So when when I asked him why he liked me and he was kind of like I seen on Fox News and, you know, bullshit.

Just the very fact that he's saying he saw me on Fox News actually probably flies in the face of what a lot of people were saying to me about him, because they were not they were portraying him like Bernie Sanders. Yeah.

And you guys bonded over that. Clearly, I think Troy and I are like best friends.

I'm getting a lot of my best friends. Deon loves me. I saw he had a clip of Rex Ryan, like talking about me, Dave, I guess, but want to meet you, man.

Well, so how are you doing? We should get him out for sure.

I grill him all day. Rex Ryan still thinks he's a better coach, I think, than Belichick. Well, that's the Rex Ryan. Yeah, that's how he does it. You know that. So, yeah, it'll be interesting.

But I know. No, I mean, I feel like you would trust me to tell you if it was good or not, you know. Yeah, I just I'm not an interview guy.

Everyone knows that. Like, the only interview I've ever planned for was Trump. How was that how is the planning for that, you just had a little pocket book? No, I wrote a bunch of questions down at one on thought about it and asked in the day for no shows.

An interesting show. Because. And maybe it morphs a different way, but in my head, and maybe it's not what it is, because you mentioned guests.

It's about barstool sports and me, yeah, and maybe it's not. Or maybe we go away. It's not. We have a guest. If you have a guest, it should be. We're interested in you. Right. Like what's interesting you why in the news or like the Robin Hood guy of general questions like a hot topic.

But there's nothing burning going on with Troy Aikman. No. Yet it's almost like, hey, Troy, why do you like me? You know, it still was focused on me if we have guests.

Is that what we are just now? I think that's what it should be, because I think that generally and like I said before, it was because people are like, oh, like I said, great job. You didn't say shit. But to me, it's like I think people are interested.

And what Troy Aikman and Dave want to talk about, that's what this is about for you.

So I think this this isn't like, you know, Roy Firestone on what was that show? You're going to make me cry, Roy, on ESPN.

This isn't a one on one. This isn't like a life story on who's ever coming. I don't want to do that. As you beautifully put, Eddie, I don't really give a fuck about anybody.

You know, I don't want to have someone on ask. Their life story doesn't interest me. Good, then I think that's a good way to kind of meet in the middle, like because you do throw gas like hablas of this person's like why unless there's some sort of relationship like Greg Olsen loved them, like Greg Olsen, we're legit friends.

I'm interested. I am.

So I should say I'm not interested in people who know. I'm very interested in what Greg Olsen and I've talked to him like Greg Olsen.

I had an hour and a half conversation two weeks ago about like his future after the NFL on the phone, on the phone.

How'd that go? Good luck. We're friends. Float something out there. He's like asking me, you know, my perspective on the media industry and things, maybe.

And I'm happy and I think he's awesome. And we have a legit friendship and we have a conversation like that.

He was on probably a lot of it wasn't super private. It's pretty open, maybe change company names and whatnot.

But that's interesting to me because I know Greg Guy, float something out there, float it. I think if you open the checkbook for a Greg Olsen Jay Cutler podcast, it could be fucking huge, the two of them together. Yeah, I mean, that's how they came in. Are they even friends? They both played in the Bears. I know that. But are they friends?

I don't know. I can't verify that.

But I would assume Jay Cutler has never, ever seemed to me like somebody who wants to be a consistent media figure.

Oh, no, not at all. But what he does, he's fucking awesome. Well, but but if it's like like here's the thing. If you get them in a Whitney Bissonette situation here where it's like, hey, guys, we just need you one or two shows.

A couple of. Yeah, I don't I don't know. Jay Cutler.

Yeah, little.

Even though at this goes he's, he's, he is kind of was one of the first eye popping moments in the history of Basel when Paul and I were at the swimsuit show with Kristin Cavallari and in color wouldn't talk to anybody. ESPN was their Bleacher Report. Every was there.

And the people Bross like, you can't talk to Jay, he won't talk to the media ten minutes later something.

Because I know, like, weirdly, Jay Cutler said the only people who could hang out with him were the Basel guys.

And we hadn't met him yet. And then me and guys went over and hung out with.

And that's that was the introduction of us to Jay and then Greg Olsen. Like, now Jay got it from me, like Greg Olsen was athlete number one into our world. Yeah.

And that's where the connection came in Chicago.

I don't I'm not this long as I don't think Jason Greg is Greg is going to be a media superstar in some aspect.

Yeah, I truly believe that.

Do you, like, sort of works against them a little bit because he's like a Ken doll. He's like, yeah. And that being a Ken doll is not in the man right now.

But I think he. I think Greg Olsen has been real and authentic enough that people would know I don't mean I mean, we're in an era. Yeah, we're in an era where like diversity. I know what you're trying to say, King. So he's he can't be less diverse. Yeah, but I don't know, man. I think at some point you got to see through people and see like good people are good people and fucking well I'm not a good people but I know.

Continue, I don't know if I should say what I'm going to say, don't say it, then don't say it, but it's safe to say we really want them in some capacity. Right. Did you talk about that? Great. Yeah, absolutely, Greg and I talked about doing a podcast together before this started, you told me that what I pitched you this show.

Do you remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So Greg and I had talked he was still playing at the time and then this and the BF one started. So it's like how many podcasts can I do? But if I was going to go the route with an athlete. It's a super short list that I can think of that I'd be comfortable enough, he's one Osili, like Deon is two and maybe fucking eight men after that, like there's just very few that I feel like I can totally be myself.

Whitney, obviously, if you consider him an athlete, you do.

We consider any athlete.

He's just like a Abasto guy at this point. Like his Bercy is an athlete. But I mean, he made a lot of money. People say he's good at skating around and shit like that.

When he's dead, he'll be remembered as a Barzilai, not a hockey player. I wonder if he'll take exception to that. I don't mean that. I mean, I don't I know you're not being weird, but. He's he is he's one of those guys and there's lots of players who they're broadcasting. Did ALP lose the money that there was a money that guy was not out, Mike? Now Michael's play football? No. Who's the other guy?

Well, that's how it is. Like, you know, someone like Dan Deardourff. A lot of people know him as right.

Lynn Swann, Swannee, you know. Well, I know once was football younger.

So that's why it's you know, so he was younger before me, but he was like, he's a hall Hall of Fame football player. Yeah. You know, Ryan, witness of these. He's an Olympian.

I don't I'm not with the Hockey Hall of Fame, Ontario, Montreal. I don't think he's going there wherever it is.

He may drive the fucking made it to the NHL, although he's out.

He's he's unbelievable. Hockey player signed a 25 million dollar contract. Listen, the naysayers will say the kid and Lemuel, whoever carried on and got him that contract, I'm not one of those guys.

He's he made a shit ton better athlete than ninety nine point nine percent of the world. He's he's a bastard.

I want his epitaph is written blogger first podcast or blogger podcast or. Partner Tara. And then Hawkie, see, this is where you just you want to look looking to like, hey, no, no, he. What should I call them? Sure, call them. It's also a testament to him, to how fucking good he is. He's great. Wait time out.

Absolutely. Absolutely. So it's not a putdown and I'm being dead serious. Hello. If you think, oh, that's his problem, of course, he always is golf and he got a shit ton, he wants to be a pro golfer. That's all I want to be remembered. I hope he picks up. He rarely picks up on the first, hey, so I'm doing the Day Portnoy Show, so you're on the air with Eddie and this is no darts.

No, we want an honest answer.

And I wasn't being a dick. I'll fuck off, dude, I'm not doing this shit if you're going to come, I'm on the golf course, I'm relaxed and you treat me like I might hang up.

It's not a chirp. It is when you're dead and buried.

How do you think you'll be remembered first as like a podcast barstool guy or NHL player? Like, what do you think what do you think you'll be more known for? That's the dumbest question I've ever heard. Leastwise our podcast, OK, podcast Pikalyovo. OK, fine.

All right. We're on the same page as our dumb question. OK, well what did you say.

I said the same. I said the same about you. Do you think you fucking need to have you help me get it. Maybe by 8:00 a.m. and at the bottom.

Well no. It's a tribute to how good you are at this at this world. That's what we're saying. NHLPA we gave you all the props for that, gave you all the props.

But I was born for this. I really was. Oh look, I just, I was just want to say something with gators everywhere. So I appreciate everything you've done on the podcast. I don't think it's a big putt coming up. He's got to go.

So he agrees. Yeah, he does. Yes, that's good. I mean, I never heard of him before. He worked for us, but I know I'm not like a crazy NHL guy, so there's a lot of NHL guys I haven't heard of. So that's again, not but our world is fucking huge.

We agree. Why are we talking about this? I don't know, we kind of just spiraled all out through, oh, we were saying people you were doing guys are doing is with the podcast or an athlete.

Mm hmm. Good conversation for sure. And I think, like you said back to that, me just thinking and I had it on my sheet last week, but I didn't bring it up, just something hit me in. And no disrespect to the other NFL podcast we have cut. Lauren Olson would be fucking tremendous.

I just don't get where you're getting color from just solely because they were the guys who turned. He turned Jay on to it. And that's how jaded KFC radio, that's how Jay had a relationship with Bechet.

That's how Jay was part of my take, you know, because he doesn't seem like an overly, like media friend. He was going to do media before he went back to the dolphins, but nothing ever happened. And he just did that reality show. And I know, but he's always like in a duck blind and shit. So who knows? You're probably right. Moving on, the curators of Bespoke Post have done it again this winter with an all new lineup of essential box of awesome collection for guys guaranteed to upgrade your life.

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Really. Yeah. Wow. I don't know if. If.

My brain. Dolce and Gabbana, if they would do an underwear club, I'd be in it, yeah, no, they'd be huge. Yep. All right. So obviously, snow and dangerous.

What's all bit dangerous? Yes, I'm from the sushi. That's mercury poisoning. What's going on here?

What put them the bigger danger of what's going on with you? You're in Chicago, where in the Basel Chicago studios. And you had quite the reaction. I had be.

So what do you guys do, what is right, tell you what the hell's going on? This is it. What do you mean this isn't it? This is if this were for sure.

Oh, yeah. A 20 billion dollar company we're trying to win these guys to.

Are you serious, Eddie, for the people at home? I don't know. I've been living in a cave or something.

These idiots are working out of a farmer's insurance office. Literally, the sign outside doesn't say barstool sports, bar stool, Chicago. That's fine.

Doesn't have to. You walk in, there's like the most insurance looking guy sitting at a desk, and I felt like I was interrupting, I'm it's like, sorry, looks this guy Saar's, eyes light up. He's like a client like yours am. I sell some fuckin insurance. What do you need?

Like, is this so like, oh, Passell, you walk through the back and there's a door that has like looks like wrapping paper for like a present stapled to the fucking door.

I don't know.

We are a large media company at this point, like we've made it, there's no going back. Parcel's here to stay.

You guys are working. I honestly, there's a video of it. I was taken aback. And it takes me a lot to be taken aback that working in a pharmacy, it's like they're subletting a little room in a farmer's insurance office. What are you doing?

This is where you're like you knew it. Like I didn't know you had farmers. No, I knew you had a little office. I didn't know you were in the guys.

You have to walk through the farm insurance office to get to this little door.

Well, what is happening?

How are how is this in any world? I maybe maybe if this was the day for another show, I owned it all were in Milton.

OK, maybe. Where we are today, have you had, like real people in here being like, what are you guys doing? Yeah, we had the GM of the Blackhawks sit right next to where you're sitting. And was he like, what are you doing?

Everyone who comes in, B.J. Armstrong was probably the other most famous person we've had here, and he actually liked it. He's like, don't change a thing. He's like, this is great.

All right, I can. The room itself, once you're inside of it, outside of the heat, what seems to be rising is brutal by the minute. Is there no way to control that at all?

We sweat our fucking balls.

OK, so so if you were able to control the heat, it does have a vibe. I like the couch, the whatever.

I can live with that. You can't walk through it. There's. Even barstool. Do you have a mailbox? No, it's just like you leave a you leave a package even awesome, Milton. We just have that little scribbled like barstool sports. No we don't. It's farmers insurance.

If I wasn't with somebody I don't know that I ever would have footstep. You told me a thousand times I just looked be like, no, that's farmers insure.

I see I see the insurance team sitting there. There's nobody. I'd see him. He's a big dude there. He's not there. I cannot believe you're working.

Does anyone in the book, anyone in this office at any point be like, aren't you guys kind of like a big company now? Like, no.

I mean, they're no one's like, what are you doing, subletting a shoe box?

Well, there are landlords. So the people who walk by, they're actually real estate and then they're farmers.

And this cost it costs a thousand dollars a month with we have a room in the back to us.

You're getting killed.

What do you mean, a thousand dollars back there with two rooms. So this is five fifty. This one is five hundred rooms, 550. Do you know how much my whole office and Middleton cost was? Eight hundred eighty bucks really? So yeah, we've been here for over two years.

You picked this place? I found it. I found it on Craigslist. Just because this is so our timeline, if you're familiar with of Chicago, as we started with red line radio and we just needed a place to record the podcast once a week. So we're like, all right. Like and that's why I asked you at the last pizza review, actually, because they were giving us guff about getting an office. We're like, hey, we can't keep dragging this record recording shit to Carl's work or White Sox Dave's apartment.

Alec, do you mind if we get this one little room in the back of a farmer's insurance for 40 or 50 bucks?

You're like, yeah, do it. Go do it tomorrow.

The thing is, it's a very if it was made clear to me and let's be honest, people who said me during this knew like office search at any point have I mentioned Bajour?

I'm just like, go get it.

Go get what haven't I we got well, that all we got some budget shut down from who I think Pete was. Yeah. Yeah. Pete, yeah. We did, yeah, that's a fact. What is Pete shelling? Pete's taking Pete's call, Pete. Well, you said Pete, but Peter, he breaks the news to us, so I'll put it that way.

So, Pete, there's no budget. There's no budgetary close to what I.

No, I'm telling you what I say goes, there is none.

OK, you guys are like, I don't unless you're trying to get like the Taj Mahal, which based on the fact you're working in a farmer's insurance.

Office, when I tell you the heat is rising in here, it's rising. I don't cheap out on that stuff anymore. I haven't for a long time.

You talk about a lot of fucking man meat in this office.

This is crazy. This is I was stunned, but this is where it feels embarrassing that this is like a guilt I get. It's the vibe. It's old school I got.

You don't I would never step foot in here, not because I'm like, oh, no, I didn't want I would never believe you're working on a farmers insurance office.

This is where it's like Varsity Blues member of the wide receiver who only had four touchdowns. He won a scholarship. And he's like and Mok's didn't always like. I didn't know. I thought you knew Mock's.

And I said that there's been so many things that maybe at times budgetary, whatever gets shut down that I don't know. And then the second they get to my desk, they're approved. But I'm not.

Can I be honest with you here all day? Here's the thing. It's very much in Bartel's culture to put your head down and not ask for shit.

Yeah. So I like that culture. I created that culture and we done that for over two years, you know, so it's just it was it was very much our mindset. We're like, hey, look, we don't we don't we want to be like.

I appreciate that. And I've created that.

But it also gets to the point where you've aren't, you know, to get out of here, not to mention Illinois's launching tomorrow. That's a big revenue stream.

We need you guys to be fucking even the signage itself is like we could I could justify in my head. That's an ad. Yeah.

And that's what they're that's what they're talking about. We're supposed to be in a new place by summer. So I guess we'll see.

This place is crazy. I guess I'm just shocked that you didn't know it was like that.

I need as a cramped, which again, I'm not as much the cramped, the heat's an issue.

You just in this we're working on a farmer's insurance, so there's no other way to there's no other way that you guys work in a farmer's insurance.

You can't open this door. I don't know what that guy was.

I thought he's going to yell at me, the insurance guy. Like, what are you guys doing? Well, he though I was looking at my.

What this is it, man, it's in twenty eighteen we've been we've been rolling with this so crazy.

Yeah, I know it's it's not it doesn't necessarily matter to the conversation, but he is a real estate guy. But what do you mean he's so that's real estate, says Farmers Insurance. I know that farmers is next door. There are five offices within this office, not farmers.

No, he's a real estate guy, so he's flipping houses and shit.

Let me tell you, Eddie. You ain't fuckin runnin some multi-million dollar real estate flipping business, sit in the farmers insurance outfit without your own sign. I don't know, bro.

That's right. I signed in for you. Didn't your boy Buffett like he made his millions by, like, bringing one nineteen to work every day to get a coffee. And that's what his budget was. Some people believe in that theory.

Would you ever hire real if I was going out like I want on a fucking heroes? He's right outside. You could. What if I'm ever looking for a real estate agent to find me a place and fucking Nantucket or the Hamptons? I walk in and he sit down there, a farmer's insurance sign.

I'm walking out and then I see you fucking walk out for a coffee. Like, who is that guy? I am like, pass.

I'm going to go to somebody has his name on the door.

I promise you fucking that. That's fair enough.

But you're a different guy. You haven't flown fucking coach in about a year. I'm just saying I know anybody.

So what's he doing? Like college, real estate. He's flipping dorm rooms.

I don't think so. If I had an a pretty successful. Without their own office, you're remembering them in here. Will he come in? Yeah. Has anyone before he never has, but I could ask him if you want to. Well, he's pretty.

He's usually pretty busy. Ask him. I'd be like we just have a question publicly. If you're such great, if you're fucking flipping houses, why don't you get your own office?

Yeah, go ask. Go ask Craig. Right. Yeah. It's okay with you. I like you. This going to be awkward. Yeah, maybe. But it's OK. You don't have to see this guy every day. Yeah exactly.

Well hopefully not much longer after he's seen this while we wait for most guys have tried different ways last longer in bed but they about baseball. Forget about office. Just thinking about farmers insurance doesn't always work. The folks are running an online men's health competition that's worth more than me.

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You didn't want to write. I couldn't ask him. He's on the phone.

Someone important she said Oh and he's on the phone to some eighteen year old kid like moving into Rigley ville. I have a weird request. She check back later I'd go to get ruined.

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If he does real estate, what could be more important than meeting with me? I can't be talking to somebody who can give him a big a real estate deal.

Then I can say I was like, no, I don't know what that means. Oh, he's on the phone.

The hospital. Sorry. OK, well, we'll we'll keep continue to show that if he comes by, he comes by. Can we have this fired up to to go when he comes in.

Hopefully like a second. Michael. Yeah. OK, I can share with you this guy.

Don't mind sharing. Yeah that's true. He clearly has a on thing. Be like that. Cost money that one. Good point.

Good point. All right. So while we wait for that, we'll continue along here. Page six once again. Dave, congratulations.

Yeah, I was on page six, girls so hot. So it was a good luck.

You were getting cozy. They said, yeah, I don't know what's going on. Paycheck's they're just following my every move.

They're obsessed with you. Someone say. Yeah, this was a good look. Oh, pulling up there was like something about, yeah, there's an Instagram with you, with her dog. Is this pretty serious? Is her girlfriend?

No. We went on about this. Is this I got I got railroaded.

I'm watching a video right now and I was walking out. She looks happy as walking out and somebody is like, can you stay, they have a sign for you. They bought, you know, they bring like the signs and they put my name on it. So it looked like I bought my own bottles and put my own name on the sign.

Not a good look, but yeah, no, at whatever the same we go through the same, the same before.

God, I just had him on my podcast.

We go through the same exact I look like a supermodel on these pictures is the best picture I've ever taken of my food.

Got her in the grave. No, no, no. Oh the dog with the dog. Click on that.

Not that one. Did you post that or. No. No. So she posted this, that. Yes, she asked me permission to make sure it's on her dogs and scram. It's like the dog is like a hundred dollars, but I would say it's like you're not letting every girl posts that shit. No. Correct. So it's a mixture of the picture and like a mixture of like you like this girl. I do like her. Yeah.

Yes.

But it's not your girlfriend. No.

OK, we hung out like most of the time there. I've known her for a little bit. It wasn't like brand new. Have you seen her?

She's funny. I did. I couldn't I could say it's a good it's a good look. But he's very good. Very good looking girl. Yeah. I don't know.

I honestly don't know fucking why page six. I mean, because we're talking about it.

So you put it in and we talk about they get more press about it, see who the other person who follows her is that works at this company. Yes. Well, maybe Rico, Bosko, so creamiest piped up, Here it is, and I'm like, if you didn't hear, he said There's one other person at the company who follows her. You heard Dave's gas was gas. It was not gas. It was who? Dave. Rico, I don't even know Rico had.

You know, he had Instagram. Looks like we can't find. I don't even know if she's private, so maybe he just want to look I don't know whatever it is, what it is, I kind of like this isn't new page six, a little bit new, but it for people who think I'm going out and like, every time I'm out with a girl, every time it's somewhere.

So I'm not going out nearly as much as people think because it literally is every single time to. You're annoyed by it.

No, I'm not annoyed at the same thing that annoys me, which is.

Yeah. Hand up. She showed, she saw two and I looked right at page.

I shouldn't bother me but it's like people just keep thinking. It's like they think I like I don't know, they're, they're assholes on that page.

Clearly I think there are a lot of them, maybe a little bit jealous, which I guess I would be too. But it's like. I'm not this is a normal like outside me being older. It's like we just hang out because we like each other is not fucking.

They make it sound like I'm a sugar daddy, which I'm just not want to make that very clear to. You're not a sugar daddy. I'm not a sugar daddy. There you go.

Do you hate the last line that they always have to end the columns with? Very much. That fucking sucks.

Yeah. That they mention his name. That does suck. Because she ever hit you about that?

No, I mean, it's been a long time now, clearly, but we still stay in touch. And it just I'd rather that that's the only that's the only resample shit.

Because you don't want that like you can go through, I don't. I'll repost one thing and one thing only, and it's the same thing every time, and I'll ask there when I go to Dave Grubman's restaurants and he is I'm friends with him.

He never fucking charges me. He's been great to me.

His business is led and I'm well known now is like, hey, if I'm introducing you to fucking David Beckham or I'll get you a table five minutes before it helps him.

And that's part of the deal. Let people know you wait there. So that's it.

But it's never a picture of like anything else. I never know. But I haven't put girls on my fucking anything since maybe occasionally, maybe in five years. I was towards watch. Hammil learned my lesson. I was a fucking idiot. She was everywhere since then.

No, you don't do that. I respect to her. Yes, ok. That was twenty. Seventeen. Is that like an official was twenty seventeen.

I think that's what it says.

You guys were married from 2009 to twenty seventeen or something like that. Oh well we're still technically married.

I realize that. Yeah.

You know that I it was one of those things where I thought you were but I wasn't positive. You know we are still technically but separated since. Yeah. 2016, 2017, something like that.

Well but yeah. I mean that debt blows that every, every article, it ends with that.

So it's like something that it sucks but it's, you know, barstools given myself and her a lot.

A lot. And it is a downfall, but it comes you know, you can't do what I do to a degree and then complain about the other side of it.

It all is part and parcel, you know, the like it all, but, you know, it is what it is.

Speaking of that, are you tired of people holding your your pornographic films over your head? I'm so loose with that shit.

I don't know what I was fucking doing. I don't really care. Like, it's out and there's so much shit out and there's nothing I can do about it, and there was this recent one and I found out the girl I knew who the girl was, the girl that I knew hooked up with whatever.

And I think she was being honest, like her phone was taken because she showed me screenshots from weeks before this broke, like screaming at her friends, being like, what the fuck are you doing?

So it wasn't made up. It is what it is. I don't really care. There's other elements.

Kareem shot me one, actually. He's like, just so head's up that that the prefer knock it out. But it is. What is what you do.

Yeah. I'm just loose. Get drunk you fucking shitfaced. You go home and girl dbms me I'm gonna clean.

Yeah. And a part of me is like it's already out there so who fucking cares. People sending my fucking dong to Brianna. That's wrong.

I apologize, I said you didn't sign up for this shit, I don't know why they are sending it to. Why are you making Jagoff videos any.

I wasn't I didn't check off. Oh, really? OK, but the donc in the face were together. I told you we talked about it. I'm an open book. People all the people listen to the tape when I show when people are freaking out about the donc idealism of the day.

Portugee says he slings dung. I'm on the record. I said I slam dunk.

I listen. You get shitfaced, get home. It's three a.m. girls are sending you shit. Thong slides, comes back to bite.

A month later, it's like, oh wait. What's that from. Oh, I remember that kind of thong shot. But I just wonder, you say that how many dong shots, who cares? Yeah, like people who are of your of your stature, like if they're doing the same shit.

I see. Well, I'm not paying attention to anybody else. I think most people probably have shit out there, but I don't know.

I also what makes me me and what has made barstool Basel is unique. Me. I'll give a fuck about like anything.

I very rarely will apologize.

Is this the. I think he's coming to an affair. You should ask. It could be embarrassing. Oh sorry. No, it's a horror. We're all enemy number one. Enemy number one.

Carl, thanks for what you guys doing in this farmer's insurance office.

OK, so overall. Well, let's talk about McWorld and really quick here, Dave.

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Thank you, Dave. OK, some more stuff here. Buzz opening. We're happy with it. We open on two very bad days. Stock market was down and one is back. I don't know what to close out today, but it was up a little bit.

The issue I'm having is on issue and I've tried to explain it.

It's not pen it pen is a rocket ship. And that's something Dave Portnoy singularly controls. I invested in buzz. It's the aggregate of seventy five stocks. There's nothing I can say.

Do anything that can change the of the price of buzz.

Buzz, you are betting on the Internet. Wisdom is better than Wall Street wisdom, but it's not. You don't buy and sell. You hold for years and it will beat the S&P. I believe that.

But it's like more for somebody. Who's not watching the stock market all the day in day trading, all that, somebody who's, you know, has jobs and they want buy something that they're not to worry about super highs and lows and it's relatively safe. That's what Buzz's.

And you're never ringing the bell on the floor again. Right track. Those are the worst two days like ever when I've done it.

And you did credit someone with mushing at the White Sox Day. He was tweeting about it.

I knew once I saw that it was like Bronx Tale motion. The put put Jojo in the in the closet.

It's like, how do I buy balls that I don't want that face. Looking at these dice Johnny coffee cakes for them in a bathroom.

Yeah. Crenshaw what was up with that. I don't know if Dan Crenshaw is a politician from Texas. I've done a on my like a nice enough guy. He is he's the one who lost the eye in combat. I don't know if he was investigated for insider trading or something. And he basically was like, I'm not insider trading. I'm just listening to what Dave Portnoy tells me to do.

That's how I'm buying my stocks, which, by the way, is a wild endorsement of how good we're doing crazy. But does that also kind of open up what people are saying about, you know, like, didn't Wahoos Cuomo give you a lot of shows up? People listen to you, man.

Yeah, he's made he's making so much money, is being investigated for how much he's making.

Yeah, but I fucking went to a senator. He said, yeah, I think so.

Whatever he is a political, big political figure, smart guy listening to you.

So I guess that's how you like some fucking Joe Jagoff, 22 year old. Listen.

What I said is I believe in the power of people to make decisions for themselves. I never misrepresent who I am or what I do.

But if you are a functioning human with a brain, I will leave it to you. Whether you'd like to invest in what I like, I will leave it to you. Whether you want to go play blackjack at Casino or bet on the Basel sports book or you want to enjoy a libation after work, you're a human being.

You should be allowed to make decisions for yourself. Cuomo would rather hold your hand and tell you it's better for you.

Oh hey, how are you doing? We want to talk about the conversation. Is this my car? Do you mind? We had a question. You mind hopping on the mic for a little bit?

OK, ok, this is great. This is our landlord. Like, that's safe to say.

Yes. Yes, it is. So he was confused. He's like, oh like what's going on? He thought you guys were the insurance people. I explained to him, you guys are the real estate people. And then what was your questions for him?

So this is my first time his office, and I almost didn't come in because was like it looked like a farmers insurance office, as I must be at the wrong place as a real estate agency.

It looks like you have the farmer's insurance guy, so you don't care about not having the sign on the window. Well, we're really not a real estate agency, OK? We are developers.

So how do people. So. All right, developers. So what does that mean exactly?

Well, we. We. We own and manage property, we rehab and do new construction, so both commercially and residential, so we do do a little of everything and just go by the name as being developers, OK, instead.

So you don't have a name?

I'm not a real estate agency. Is there a name of the company?

There is a name of the company. OK, good development. So are you guys like we're kind of low keyed because we basically just take care of our own products, our own inventory. We're not we're not looking for outside business. And there it is, OK, that makes more sense because quite frankly, what I was saying, I misunderstood. It's like, well, if I'm looking for real estate, I don't know that I'm trusting the guys who don't have a name on their building.

I'm like, you know, just like I wouldn't necessarily trust Eddie if I'm walking in and I'd like farmers insurance and I'm wearing a little corn.

So that was what confuses me. But everybody in here has a right to have advertisement. And on the on the windows, we don't really care. OK, Eddie.

So you want to put the name on the window now because you're embarrassed? Not embarrassed, but I don't. It's advertising. Yeah. But like, not everyone loves us. Most people like us. No, I don't know. You just never know.

How have these guys been as tenants couple of years really now.

How have they been. How have they been. Yeah, great. So how did you guys oh, you said you found on Craigslist, so that doesn't sound like that's a core business because we we're basically subleasing these these private offices here. Got it. OK. And, you know, when we have some other businesses in here, farmers insurance, just put a larger sign on the window. There's a lady here who's a CPA. She also has something on the window.

You don't see it as clearly as the insurance. Everyone's name is over on the by the entry door, basically for the purposes of mail mail. OK, but we're you know, we know how many of your companies in this office.

Well, all our different our ownership's different companies, and so there are all different names, and there's a like a dozen dozen of your employees here now.

Oh, you asked me about employees. Yeah, yeah. No, we we have ownership in about a dozen different companies. Got it. And employees, we come and go in the office. We're not always here and there's only three or four of us. Got it.

All right. It's interesting. I don't even know that going to clarity exactly what's going on. If there wasn't if you weren't willing to come on the radio, it would sound like some sort of crime syndicate going on. But I mean, I don't think Al Capone would come on the radio.

So now we know we're really here to, you know, offer, you know, the convenience and the the needs of of the people who are leasing here. OK. All right.

Well, I appreciate that not. Yeah. There you go. All right. Thank you. Your appreciate it. Nice meeting you. Same. OK, thanks a lot. I think something's illegal going on. I don't understand that it happened.

I think he was being vague intentionally. I don't know. Did you understand what he's talking about?

Yeah, I think he just finds property and he like rehabs and shit. So he just drives around like. Yeah, that's that's to my knowledge, but they don't. I don't know exactly how that's your that's your that's what you think it is to write me. Yeah, I have no idea. It was like I thought he had, like, the properties and they develop them like maybe from the ground up sort of thing. And then they're just leasing this because they own it to where they own the mall.

Right, but they're listening. Yeah, I don't know. I was just in pieces. Well, welcome to our office.

I honestly, if he wasn't willing to come on the radio, I said there's something nefarious going on, but I don't think there is.

He has all of his old houses. The pictures are all in the windows, the house you work. Like, if you're doing that, well, why would you want.

Why don't you get yourself like a nice office? I don't know. OK, I don't know. I saw Perk DMD or anything with that no Amala Perk I fucking love Pozzo is exciting, but we didn't get very far as like I get some stuff coming up.

Now, what's up with this Nardini turn group espec as. Did you see? Oh yeah. I did see that aspect.

I said that way back spark back aspects back that it sound like she joined with Peter Chernin and they're going to be looking for companies to bring public. That's a super hot thing right now on the stock market. And you can make a shit ton of money if you do it correctly right now, OK?

And that's like a frontier, like. Yeah, I'm not involved in it. Did you know about it?

I she maybe told me, but I, I, I my awareness of it was when I read it like everybody else.

So no worries. Nothing like that. No. No. All right. Well good luck to them. Besides, I don't know if you have the picture. Real quick reminder of the end here has been going along with the Bedminster picture. I got to put some shine on it. It was unbelievable.

And by the looks of it, you didn't see it, but was was an all time thank you. An all time caption and on bring it up here. I know this isn't great for the audio listeners, but if you're watching on YouTube, this will be a that'll be interesting. There it is. The caption is feeling like a made man. Thank you. Stool President Dave Vlasto. Where is he? I don't know.

But he's got one girls kiss. He's in New York on girls kissed him on the cheek and he's got another girl in the picture, Jerry Thornton 2.0.

What does that mean? Jerry used to have pictures like this all the time back in the day. Really? Oh, yeah.

You got Jerry Thornton got kicked out of the White Party. I remember that one. And having a naked girl dance on tape.

So Jerry thought and like, that's all we got.

He's a nice guy. I mean, I picture this. I don't have a super strong reaction to it.

Brenda Walker, Robbie Brown, wrestling AWG. Yeah, they're on that a lot. Yeah. Yeah, that was for them. That was cool. All right. We'll do a couple of email questions. We'll get out of here now. This one's from listener Uncle Chavis employee. Dave, I have an idea for You Sleep podcast all about this Slate podcast.

Yeah, it wants me to read it like read greenies, emails to greenies, blogs that put people to sleep.

That would be very fucking funny.

And it would work because I want to sleep. Hazama is like a new thing.

Like everybody is just it's like David Allen Bouchet, nighttime magic. I mean, you know, greenies, blogs are so boring.

So these the boring is guy to ever do it. He's he's he's output.

low-Impact guy is our Celltex guy. Yeah. Oh yeah. In Colorado. Where how often you talk to Greaney. Almost never. What was the last time.

Probably it'd be like this headline Celtics win game by four. All right, so that's all right with Graney maybe is improved, I haven't checked them out that much lately, but he he's he's a pretty boring guy.

If there was he makes vanilla seem exciting, this would be a good this would be a good podcast. So I think just reading his blogs.

Yeah. And I probably want to be on his right. I mean, I let's let's listen. Jeff, for the record, chaps, an authority on the bus. He said the top ten worst blogs of the week.

Oh no. He told me straight.

Graney Oh, OK. I didn't get that. I thought, let's look.

I'll see what Green has done recently. Is this to work for us? We go three, two hours ago. There is more smoke surrounding Harrison Barnes potentially being traded to Boston.

Is this all this guy? So whatever.

But one comment, my official second half goals for every Celtics on the roster. Paul Pierce is one step closer to becoming a first ballot Hall of Famer Allan Robinson, just stuff jams and woes in a locker.

The Warriors were reportedly promised Lamela lamella ball they would draft him only to, like I said, this is boring stuff. Kemba Walker currently looks so much better offensively. So what changed?

These are some boring ass headlines, but is it maybe just not interested in it or even if you were interested that. If Graney was me when I started covering Boston sports, we wouldn't be here, we wouldn't exist.

Fair enough. I mean, that's a fact. Fair enough. He's got the charisma of an ant. This one's from Patrick.

He walk hard, though. He does work hard. This was where Patrick, can you walk us through your hair routine?

What product do you use? I just get it from my barber. Put it is really basic comb or brush? No. What do you tell your barber what what do you tell your barber used to say, Bob, I've been gone since I moved to New York. He knows I let you just get out of this and you don't come to brush your hair at all.

No, you throw it hardstyle. OK, last one from Mary. The birthday of the year happened this week. Could you explain to new listeners the history of Tim Corbett's birthday?

So, Tim Corbett. As a kid, I went to elementary school with an eye socket, birthdays, I never remember birthdays, I never remembers anybody's birthday, my parents money, I'm just bad, bad at birthdays. I forget my own. I never forget Tim Corbetts March 8th. I don't know why it's stuck in my head, but it did. It's the only person I know when he's born. He has no connection to me anymore. I don't have to talk to him in decades.

But I know this. Tim Corbett. He was born March 8th.

Happy birthday, Tim covid. Yeah. And I always give him a shot up. No, we go.

All right. I think that's it. Dave.

Anything else? That's it. I'm sweating.

We're going to get some air then go listen to red line radio because you're going to be on there and want to be talking to us live. What do you mean, red line radio? No, no, no. Where you were going to record it at four thirty.

So we're in a corner little bit, so you get some air and go tune in. It drops. It's going to drop Thursday morning, same time as this podcast. So I'll listen to that. We're going to talk about all the drama in the Chicago office. You could learn more about that. Besides that, thanks for listening. That's OK. So we got a great show. See you next week.

Great show.