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I'm Jason Chaffetz. I'm Katie Pavlik. I'm Steve Doocy, and this is the Fox News rundown. Monday, August 31st, twenty twenty, I'm Jackie Heinrich. As we get close to Election Day and the civil unrest and violence continues, many are growing weary. You've got huge majorities out there saying, look, we're fine with peaceful protest, but when it crosses a line into into rioting, into looting and burning destruction of private property, that is wrong.

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And Lisa Brady, the patriarch of the Duck Dynasty family, is making a different kind of call for the soul of the country.

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We're living in a culture where there is no spiritual instruction and discipline and love and joy and peace and faith is there. Basically, there is no God. And I'm Carol Markowitz. I've got the final word on the Fox News rundown. The conventions are over, and both President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden plan to hit the campaign trail in the final stretch before the election. Biden resuming travel to swing states after Labor Day continues to make this election about coronavirus and how the Trump administration mishandled it.

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But simmering turmoil in Kenosha, Wisconsin, threatens to derail that strategy as Republicans double down on warnings, violence and crime will spread. Repeating claims Biden wants to defund police, which he's repeatedly denied. Biden will need to speak to swing voters in the mostly white working class rural districts President Trump won in 2016, some of whom are in Kenosha, torn apart by protests over the police shooting of Jacob Blake. Biden denounced the violence, accusing Republicans of using the unrest for political gain.

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Biden campaign manager Kate Bedingfield on Fox News Sunday, Kellyanne Conway said it unapologetically.

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It is better for this president if there is more anarchy, more violence, more chaos. He has at every opportunity tried to fan the flames here and where. And that is the reason we are living in Donald Trump's America.

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But that excuse won't work for Republicans who say Biden and the Democrats didn't meaningfully address ongoing violence in major American cities like Chicago, Portland and Seattle during the DNC and after a mob descended on Trump supporters leaving the White House following the president's renomination. There's new momentum for their argument. Trump campaign senior adviser Laura Trump on Fox News Sunday.

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We saw that it was this anarchist mob that was attacking Trump supporters, attacking Republicans, yet you didn't see that happening on the other side. There was an opportunity at the end of the Democrats convention where we could have had people attacking their folks, but that would never happen. It only goes one way, capping it off.

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Overnight Saturday, a Trump supporter was reportedly killed in Portland amid a clash with protesters who occupied that Democrat led city for more than three months. So how much has the central issue of this election pivoted from coronavirus to violence in the streets? And will it move the needle come Election Day?

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We've got little glimpses, but not really. I mean, because it really sort of, you know, has gone to another level just in the last few days.

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Tom Bevan is the president of Real Clear Politics.

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By and large, I think what we've seen and heard anecdotally and you know, from folks who are conducting focus groups, I think the tell on this really was when Don Lemon last week, you know, was on with Chris Cuomo on CNN saying and this has been after, you know, weeks and weeks of people saying that Joe Biden should really step out and address this stuff and condemn the looting and rioting. When Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo were talking and basically said, hey, you know, voters don't like this.

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It's showing up at the polls that show up in the focus groups. And the next morning, Biden came out and released a 90 second statement, you know, video on Twitter condemning it.

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But the question is, is that enough? Is it too little, too late? I think the consensus is it's helpful to Trump and his law and order message.

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People don't like destruction and violence in our streets. And he's certainly the one who's been more out front about saying, look, this has got to stop and I'll put an end to it. But we haven't really seen that reflected in the data just yet.

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Tell me a little bit about, you know, how President Trump pulled off his win in 2016, because you know that we've heard the Democrats really addressing this message about systemic racial disparities, you know, where they stand on police brutality and on protests around it. But President Trump is talking to voters in these rural working class, mostly white areas that carried him through very narrowly in 2016. Tell me a little bit about the demographics of that win and how it might play out this election.

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Well, you know, the biggest shift in 2016 that caught a lot of people by surprise was the shift, particularly among education.

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And then race is a subset. So noncollege educated voters, particularly non college educated white voters, shifted rather dramatically to Trump. And again, this was not a demographic that Republicans were used to winning. A lot of these folks voted for Obama in 2008 or 2012 or both. And so that's why it caught a lot of people by surprise that that that shift really took place right under the noses of all of the pundits and a lot of the pollsters who did not wait for education.

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And so I think we're seeing more focus on that this time around.

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Those voters seem to be fully on board with Trump in terms of their support for him. It has not really waned. In some cases, it's grown stronger. Meanwhile, Trump has lost ground, did lose ground in 2016 and has lost ground subsequently with, you know, well-educated suburban voters, in particular women. And again, that was the demographic that that Republicans typically did. Much, much better with and so we have seen that the demographics reshape politically and therefore reshape the map.

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It seems like neither campaign has been able to appeal to both sides of this discussion and say, we value law enforcement. We we respect the work you do in our communities and we value black lives. I mean, you've seen both attempt to get that message across, but is it sticking? Is that message sticking with either base? Which part are they taking away on each side?

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Yeah, I mean, look, I think and this is really odd because it is in some ways sort of a no brainer, especially if you look at the data.

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I mean, everybody's in favor of police reform. I mean, everybody is there's there's hardly anybody out there who says no. I think the police are you know, they're good just like they are. And they don't need any improvement and they don't need better training. You know, and also, you know, you've got huge majorities out there saying, look, we don't approve of the lighting and routine. We're fine with peaceful protest. But when it crosses the line into into rioting, into looting and burning destruction of private property, that is wrong.

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And again, there are small fringes on either side. But, you know, Trump is harping on law and order. He rarely mentions police reform. He rarely mentions, you know, the victims and how you know that. He just says we need to we need to we need to support our police and fund them and have confidence in them. And they're good people. And and all of those things are true. But he doesn't ever mention the flip side of that.

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And conversely, Biden just has not done enough, because I think he's he's worried about this coalition that he's put together and that he needs to if he goes out and condemns it too forcefully, that that that will turn off sections of his his base that he's he's meeting in November. So, you know, there's a whole lot of folks out there who are not hearing the sort of common sense messaging that that I think is is overwhelmingly supported by the vast majority of folks in this country.

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Do you think there needs to be more polling on this issue? Because, you know, for the longest time, it seemed like coronavirus was going to be the sticking point of this election. And, you know, at least the Biden camp is really making that issue, trying to make it a referendum on the Trump administration. The Trump campaign has really been coming at it from the economy side and saying, like, listen, you know, I can I'm a numbers guy.

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I went on the numbers and you need me to to bring us out of this. But now we have this issue of violence and unrest. Is there enough polling to say, you know, which which voting blocs are most moved by this issue and whether they're likely to come out to vote?

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We could use more. I mean, we could use a lot more polling, you know, across the board, quite frankly. And I mean, look, I run a website that that aggregates polls.

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So we always want more polls. Right.

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But not just horserace polls, but issue based polls that do that ask the questions and sort of thoughtful, nuanced ways that aren't just the simplistic, you know, questions. Do you support black lives? Well, of course, everyone's going to say yes to that. And, you know, do you support looting? Rioting? No, of course, nobody supports that.

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So asking those questions that probe a little bit beyond the superficial and a little bit deeper, we need more. We definitely need more of that. But you're right. I mean, look, covid, as you saw, the Biden campaign is now pivoted and is releasing ads and focusing. Biden is tweeting, Kamala Harris is tweeting all of the Democratic allies. They're not talking about covid. They're fighting back on this narrative that you won't be safe in Joe Biden's America.

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And Democrats are responsible for the violence in these cities. They're their mayors and governors. And Joe Biden is the leader of their party. And Biden's response is no. This is Trump's America. This is happening on his watch. And if you saw the ad they released earlier, they're talking about he's promoting white supremacy from Charlottesville to El Paso. You know, these people are being emboldened.

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The chaos that you see on the streets is Trump's fault. So they're both trying to fight on that ground. I don't know that that's I'm not sure that's going to work for Biden. I have not seen any data on this yet, but I'd be surprised if that message resonates in the same way that it was working for them when they were talking about coronaviruses. Voters are much more likely to hold Trump responsible for, you know, the coronavirus, his handling of coronavirus, because he was you know, it was a national he was in the national spotlight for so long, I'm not sure they're going to get there with this message.

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Do you think that in that way the Republicans benefited from having, you know, the second go around and having the last word in going second with these virtual conventions made after the DNC? There was a lot of praise about. They you know, for all intents and purposes, really did a reasonably good job, you know, went off without a hitch. Everyone was kind of looking to see what this would even look like and how they could pull it off, especially with that Last-Minute change going from Milwaukee to to Delaware.

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But then the RNC finished and and that message is the one that's left for people to chew over, over and over again. This law and order message. Do you do you think that that has turned this election in a significant enough way?

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Don't know. We'll have to wait and see. You know, typically and I had said before this even started that given how the conventions were going to be conducted virtually and how partisan the country, how divided the country is in a partisan way, that I didn't expect either side to get a bump out of these elections. And because they were also being held back to back. And that was certainly true from the data that we got after Biden's convention, after Democrats convention.

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He got no bump nationally, no bump in the swing states really to speak of. In some cases. He lost a couple of points and we'll see what happens with Trump. I mean, we should have data here in the next few days. But I mean, there certainly is the recency effect, right? It's a that's a legitimate thing. The last thing that you hear or see is the one you remember most coming out of the convention. Will they get a bump?

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I don't know. For the reasons I mentioned earlier, maybe not, but but maybe they will. And if they do, then, you know, this race is going to tighten even further, not only nationally, but but in these swing states. My last question, and it might not even have to do with the headline, depending on your answer, but, you know, after these two weeks, these two big conventions and you know what we've been watching for up until now and what we're watching for, that's different afterward, you know, what strikes you?

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What would you talk about with your you know, your best friend that, you know, as a seasoned person who consumes politics? You know, what strikes you about this time in this election right now, huh? That's a good question.

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I mean, obviously, we're in unprecedented circumstances, right? We've never had an election like this with we've had an election in the middle of an economic crisis before. We've had one in the middle of a pandemic before. We've had one in the middle of social unrest before. But we've never had all three of those things at the same time. And then you put on top of that, you've got probably the most uniquely polarizing political figure that we've seen in a very long time.

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And and we just it's, you know, so unprecedented. And then and then pile on top of that, the fact that we're going to be you know, obviously we did the conventions differently, but the mechanism for which people are going to vote, vote by mail, you know, is going to, I think, make this election even more unique.

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So and so despite all of those circumstances, creating an election that that literally has no precedent in American history. I do see a lot of the pundits that are making a lot of the same mistakes that I feel like they made in twenty sixteen. In terms of the certainty with which they are making proclamations about what's going to happen. I mean, I've been telling people this for four years based on what happened in twenty sixteen is, you know, beware the beware these so-called experts that claim to know what they're talking about because they really don't think they can.

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We can make educated guesses based on the data we have available now. But at the end of the day, you know, nobody really knows how this is going to turn out or what twists and turns may may be left in this race over the next 60 plus days.

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You know, amen to that. And a a nod to just how difficult it is for the media to get the story. You know, despite all of our best efforts, it's tough to keep a thumb on the future. No one's got a crystal ball. So Tom Bevan, president of Real Clear Politics, thank you once again for being with us.

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This is Carol Markowitz with your Fox News commentary.

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Coming up, they built a dynasty of duck hunting and took America along for part of the ride into the backwoods of Louisiana.

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That's the sound of a bull frog losing his head cold for some to have to go back in the swamp.

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Phil Robertson, the patriarch of the family, has kept very busy since Duck Dynasty wrapped. He has a new book you'll hear more about in a moment. And now fans of the show can watch it again on Fox Nation.

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Well, when they pitched the show, when they came down from New York and L.A. and they pitched the show, Duck Dynasty launched in 2012 and ran for 11 seasons over five years, they said, we'd like to film your family where we've been looking for something that's very rare in America.

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And that would be a functional family, Mr. Robertson. And we and we think we've found one. And you folks, I thought filming a functional family, I thought, well, I don't know whether there's an audience out there that would enjoy a bunch of people that do hunt ducks for a living. And Bill Duck calls. I had this this knack, a skill set, if you will, to be able to build devices that sound like the various ducks that the almighty has put on planet Earth.

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So from that, here comes the and they want to film us do that. So they ask me, my kids. After they left the pits, they gave us the pitch and they laughed. I said, yeah, I'll think about it. My children, my son's four sons asked me what I thought. I thought, I don't believe there's an audience for that. I said, however, I said, you know, the Almighty may be behind this.

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So if God is behind it, maybe maybe had to go ballistic. So whatever y'all all want to do, that's fine with me. So Duck Dynasty began and the rest is history. So it's kind of got a little resurgence now. I thought the thing was, you know, you just go through the reality show for five years and then it winds it up. But now it's back on Fox Nation, you know, so you never know.

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Girl, is that that's so true. Do you do you miss or does the family miss filming the show? I mean, that has to be a very invasive experience.

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It was one of the the one of the worst experiences of my life. I mean, look, I thought what in the world? I did hold up my Bible when they were pitching the show. And I said, is this included in the show? And I held up my Bible in front of them. They said, Mr. Robinson, I will leave and whatever you do. So about as much as we could get some spiritual matters and to infuse a little spiritual matters into the TV show, probably thanking God for our food, which we do every time we sit down.

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We thank God for what we fix to eat, although we thank you for another good day on planet Earth.

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We do thank you for the good fish. You blessed us with Amy Day.

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And so it may seem a little weird to some people in especially now in the country, but the book I just came up with, Jesus Politics. It's a look inside look at you have a democratic republic which you and I are members of. But inside that, I don't know about you. But where I am, I'm a member of another kingdom, a spiritual kingdom, Jesus being the king. And so we're our kingdom, a spiritual kingdom within the confines of the United States of America.

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And by the way, the founding fathers, they understood that. So here we are inside the United States of America. And we think like the current situation in. Erica, with the rioting and the looting and the burning and the shooting, we're all just at a distance looking at it, saying it seems like we have a love problem, seems like we don't love God and we don't love each other anymore the way we're behaving. So you can see the two.

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We don't think it's a government fix and we think it's a spiritual fix. Loving God, loving your neighbor is pretty well the manifesto of the Jesus politics.

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Even for people who aren't religious, there is a very timely message there during this pandemic about loving one another and taking care of one another, right?

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you think common sense. Check this out. What if you saw a whole culture that were loving, joyful, peaceful? They were patient, they were kind. They were good. They were faithful. They were gentle. They exercise self-control. I mean, give me a break. You say so those are the that's the fruit of the spirit. Love Joop space. Good times. Good. So you say. And that's the way you roll all the time.

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Yeah. So in my case I went from building up calls to the reality TV to podcast and in the woods with feel you know. So you like it. You ended up very blessed. I'm a multimillionaire and I don't even own a suit or a computer or a ring or a watch. That's kind of weird.

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Well, I like in the in the title too.

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I mean, the full title is Jesus Politics How to Win Back the Soul of America. But just the first two words. You're combining something two things that people usually try not to talk about or used to try not to talk about religion and politics. I mean, why did you want to go there? Why now? Did you write this in quarantine?

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That is correct. I did what I started with. I was fishing the river out here. This is in the last year. So now it's a pandemic. God promised us that it won't come near us. But hey, so far we've escaped it. But I was already self contained before the quarantine came in. But I'm looking out at our country and I'm thinking, what in the world happened to loving your maker and loving your neighbor? What in the world has happened to us so far?

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You look, it's been a progression. When I was about a sophomore in high school, what they passed the Supreme Court passed the first edict, no more Bibles in schools. And then it was just one one verdict after another. Unfortunately for us, the Supreme Court is not the supreme being. There's a big difference between the two. And what's happened is we're living in a culture where there is no spiritual instruction and discipline and love and joy and peace and patience there.

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Basically, there is no God and we've been there for sixty years roughly. So we are now reaping what we have sown, in my opinion.

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What I have to ask you about, I saw a great family photo of all of you at one point I think it was from the spring. And for a big family like yours, a close knit family, I mean, it would seem on the surface at least, that maybe being forced to spend more time together wouldn't be such a bad thing. But how have you been holding up in quarantine? Have you all been coping OK?

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No, no problem whatsoever. You have to remember these government edicts and stuff, these rules and regulations and all that stuff. Look, we don't look at it as having to go to a church building and go in and do these rituals. We don't we don't we don't role like that. I'm down here from Monday to Saturday. Yeah. I'm not talking about going to church and being in a church building from Monday to Saturday. You and I are sitting here right now discussing spiritual matters.

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You say you two are worshiping God here. Yeah, so it's an ongoing today is tomorrow. I have more interviews and then I'll meet with this one and then they'll be filming. I have a film crew that was amazing. And then we have the podcast. So we're into all of that. But the you look at it, just step back and look. It's worshiping God. That's how we live our lives. The rest of the time, we kind of just stay in the woods.

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It's pretty cool.

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Thank you very, very much for your time and for coming on the rundown. Thank you.

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Here's a look at the week ahead. Monday, take an apple and slice into four pieces, that's what will happen for Apple shareholders. If you own 100 shares of Apple stock, it will suddenly become 400 shares because of a four for one stock split. The move will make the world's most valuable company more within reach of small investors. Monday is also the start of the U.S. Open in New York. There will likely be exciting tennis, but no fans to see it live Tuesday.

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We could see a reemergence of the Kennedy dynasty. Congressman Joe Kennedy, the third runs in the Massachusetts Democratic Senate primary against incumbent Ed Markey. Kennedy is the grandson of Robert Kennedy. Friday, the start of the Labor Day weekend.

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And it's also the much delayed release date of the first of the planned summer blockbuster films. Welcome to the.

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Tenant Christopher Nolan's time travel epic Saturday, they will finally run the Kentucky Derby at a nearly empty Churchill Downs. And that's a look at your week ahead. I'm Richard Denison, Fox News.

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It's time for your Fox News commentary. Carol Markowitz, what's on your mind?

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With the election bearing down on us? How can we maintain friendships with people who have different political opinions? We know what's going to happen. Friendships will fray and possibly snap. The election will happen. Someone will win, and some segment of the country won't be able to process the loss of its preferred candidate in a healthy way. People will lash out. We will have to read a thousand what to say to your family on Thanksgiving articles about how to be civil to people who share your blood, but not your opinion on Medicare for all.

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So what can you do to stay on good terms with the people in your life? First, keep your politics off Facebook. Not one mind has ever been changed by anyone's political ranting on any social media platform, especially not Facebook. All such arguments accomplish is to divide old friends, Facebook is simply not made for arguments, you inevitably end up getting into a fight with the co-worker of your best friend from middle school who wins in that exchange. No one, that's who.

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A Pew poll in August found that two thirds of users, 67 percent say that discussing politics on social media with people they disagree with usually leads them to find out they have less in common politically than they expected. Common ground gets harder to find behind profile pictures and quippy responses. The same Pew poll showed that nearly half of adult social media users feel worn out by the number of political posts and discussions they see on social media. Post pictures of your vacation and your cat, and maybe sometimes your Yasushi don't post about politics.

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The second thing you can do is to remember that your friends, even those whose opinion you find repellent, want what's best for our nation. If you try to hold fast to that baseline assumption, it gets much easier not to lose your friendship over political disagreements. Finally, remember, the politicians aren't your family members and they aren't your friends. Ideologues want power, your loved ones want love. Don't lose your actual family or friends over politicos. Similarly, the people on your political side shouldn't be your tribe, your actual tribe, but the people who know you and care about you, not just people who vote your way, your tribe or your neighbors, the people at your church, the other parents at your kid's school.

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They aren't the people raving on social media on the same side as you remember that. And go into the twenty twenty election keeping your friendships a high priority. There will be other elections. Let's all try to have some friends for twenty, twenty four and beyond. This is Carol Markowitz, columnist at The New York Post.

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