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That was a fault. That was a slip up on my part. That was a slip up on my part. I knew Flip was coming back. Big Flip. Big Flip. Welcome back, dog.

I'm happy to be back. I'm happy to see you all.

I missed you, man. We missed you, man. We missed you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I miss y'all, too. Straight from the airport. I came straight from the airport.

Dedication.

Yes, yes, yes. They wanted to hold me back. I gave some trouble at JetBlue. I was flagged twice.

No.

In Jamaica, they were throwing the bags. Like, you know, when they call you, if anybody want to check the bag, come. They were throwing it. So I knocked on the window like JR said, pops, don't do that. Yo, what are you doing? Don't throw the bag. So then the Jamaicans came up.

Yeah.

And the pilot came out. But I said, you can't destroy these people. Pay a lot of money for these bags. Then a Jamaican man going to tell me, some of these bags are built to be thrown. That's not true.

Shut your eyes up.

That's not true. So they did that. They did that. I didn't like the shirtless, too.

Throwing your bag.

They was not stopping it. It wasn't shirtless.

What's the mesh joints.

Stop. No, they wasn't. Did you even mess it? So I told him about throwing the bag. And then I think I got flagged. So I finally. I said, I'ma chill. Got on a plane, and in New York, they stopped me again. I don't know. They put some. Cause they did the same thing to Nico. I went to Trinidad and Jamaica. In Trinidad, they flagged Nico, my youngest son, I think. Cause he looked disrespect. And they flagged. They searched him four times. They searched Nico four times. He 13. He's 13 years old. They searched him twice in Trinidad and twice in the United States. Now, come on. Something is going on here. I didn't like that. I was tight. He looking at me. You on your own.

Look, dad, what did you.

I can't save you.

What you want me to do? They flagging him for a reason. I Started to think he had something. You got a vape on you. You got some weed. He like, Daddy, I'm just 13. So they flagged. They held his passport. They held my son's passport till he went through the metal detector. They brought it around. I don't know what that was about, but later on, I get into more. But, you know, I just got flagged because of the JetBlue. JetBlue people are extremely rude now. They never used to be like that, and I have a problem with that. But other than that, it was a good trip. I saw family.

Why? What's up?

Ish.

Nigga saw a family for 30 minutes.

My father be saying that, but that wasn't true, nigga. I stayed with him.

He said he saw a family for 45 minutes. I love when niggas go out of town to see their family. Hey, what up, coach? You do good, I bet.

I'm outta here.

I'm a holler.

We in the streets.

We outside.

No, I was gonna say, yo, stop flying JetBlue.

Oh, JetBlue. I thought about that. I listened to you guys. But then I realized that Jet Blue planes have never had an incident like the planes that y'all be on. So I prefer to be safe and broke.

Give me some glasses.

Bum.

The tickets are expensive, and I'm. I'm in 1A. I don't give a.

That is Antoine saying that. Don't look at.

I'll be in 1A. JetBlue. It's me for the Joe Budden Podcast. Queen's Flip. You niggas have lost your joy. I don't know what the fuck happened over there. You lost your happiness. JetBlue was the happiest people. You bought all the fucking airlines, and you lost it. Didn't y'all buy Spirit? Where's the Spirit at, nigga? That's what the fuck happened. You said they don't bullshit now.

Yeah, we ain't no cop no more.

My favorite thing to do in the airport is walk by some of the broken gates, yo.

Definitely not enough.

See that big yellow shit outside?

Have I ever told you all that about Alaska? I told y'all that before.

Alaska.

I walk by them shit and peak. Especially some of the certain destinations.

Yes.

Just to see you going on.

I look at her, I look at. I try to guess. I look at all the dusty niggas at the gate, and then I'm like, hmm.

Say so. Say so.

What city?

Where they going? Jump. Where they going? Be headed. Where they going, though?

Where they going?

Tell me where they going, yeah, I.

Bet you won't go ahead.

This. It's normally right on par. It's normally right on par.

This is.

Y'all don't do that airport.

I do, though.

No. Be looking up at the gate.

No, there's some niggas.

Gay swag. I'm sorry. Go ahead, man.

No, there's some airlines that I don't know about, but that's lit. There's some airlines with some rich. Go on.

You know the International.

Yeah. There some airlines with the rich going that I never heard of.

Yo, you got the. The fucking 90 inch charger hugged up all by the pole looking dumb. You got your dirty ass knapsack right by you on the floor eating some fucking chips.

Some shit. They be tight.

You nasty piece of shit. You didn't shower this morning. You looking exhausted. You sweating. You not even moving and you sweating. Look like you too out of shape to take that walk when the gate is far. Some of y'all are disgusting at the airport, and I hate it. I have to make more money to.

Travel privately with the plastic bags. Plastic bags and they hair wrapped up.

Yo, that's why all these third party companies is coming up with the, hey, private, Private way to travel commercial.

Private Uber.

Stay away from these dusty, nasty, germy niggas.

I hate seeing people go to the airport. Sandals and those socks and all that.

I'm always right behind the family with you. I'm always. You can tell the fucking little white daughter had you up since 4am Getting this little heifer ready? Y'all get up there with a hundred bags, the colorful TG Ma, TJ Maxx shits with the fucking blooms. The purple what? The purple shits. The lilies. The lilies all over your bag. You a whole nigga. You six four with lilies. The lilies all over your bag. Y'all are nasty.

And now y'all holding the line up. Cause somebody take their fucking iPad out or they fucking take.

And you asking them and you asking them to call customer service for something. Now they up there on the phone with your dumb ass, and I'm standing there. Oh.

Anyway, I tried to get the scam off to act like I was in a wheelchair so my whole family could skip the line. That shit ain't worked.

Yo, I used to do that.

Niggas, it works. Wait, why?

Why didn't it work? Why didn't it work?

Nigga said Queensland. We saw you. I should have let her be my wife. But, nigga, my leg hurt. That shit didn't work. Because I saw niggas, when you in a wheelchair, your whole family can go with you.

Everybody with you.

Yes.

Yeah, I ain't know that. I said, come on, I'm gonna try it. Niggas all the time.

I used to do that in my real sick day. I used to be sick. I used to be a sick dude. I used to do that. Go there healthy as a fucking and ask for the wheelchair so you could get the wheelchair service.

I did that one time in Miami, hungover as fuck. So now we gonna get.

I'll do that.

I hangover too, 100%.

Oh, shit. And know what I did last time I was in the airport. If y'all not judging today.

Nope, we're not judging. Go ahead.

Good.

We never judge.

But fuck it. Because I had paid for the special service for where as soon as you land, the person is there to help you. They get the cart.

The greeter.

Yeah, because the gate was mad for us, so we had to greet her with the cart. Me and my girl get on the car by ourselves. I paid for the service.

You pay what you prepay for that?

Yeah, there's a certain. That's what I'm talking about. Like the extra service down auditor, they got a bunch now. So we get on the car, we going chilling. You know, I watch the road. The sign of a good driver is you always gotta watch ahead. I see the old 90 year old lady to the left. He don't. No, he see it too. Oh, he beeping. And boy, does she need a ride. But.

She ain't pay for the ride.

It ain't just me though. Nope. Cause my girl ain't either. So he cruised right up. He stopped right at Martha. She got the cane. Oh, he said, yeah, come on in. But she was moving slow enough for me to say, did she pay for the surgery? Man, if you don't pee on this motherfucker or for Martha, that nigga said, hey, hey, but wait, it get worse.

Oh my God, you terrible.

I look back, I look back.

Martha was in the middle of the shit by a bar. She was by the steakhouse. That should be bad for an airport. She was.

By the surface.

Mar up. Yo, what's wrong with you? Yo, that's up.

No, it's not. No, it's not.

No, I'm sorry.

Sorry, Martha.

Nah, that's.

That ain't up.

Sometimes I still do a little up.

Your girl vouching for it too is even funnier.

I don't want to throw smut on her name. I can't Remember if she was down with me or if she invited Martha. Either way, I got us out of there unharmed.

You know what thugs you invited on your cart.

Yeah, come on.

What are you talking about?

We still running around.

We don't need that.

We fresh off the private fucking jet over here. Wait, where we was going, that wasn't a project.

Martha might be smuggling some shit. What are you talking about?

I'm just saying, Martha gonna take 15 minutes to get on the vehicle. I might add the pee. Cause I try to look cool coming over the plane. I don't stop at the first bathroom. Y'all go ahead. Nasty ass niggas been holding your pee for three hours. I go to the next one. I go to one of my back.

And I tried to go in the little room on the side too.

Don't let me. Oh, the handicap. Boy. Go in there, bust a stogie real quick, light something up. You gotta smoke in the handicap bathroom in the airport.

Wait, you not.

This nigga want to be on the list.

Stop.

They're gonna flag you. They listen to this sh.

Going to flag you. When they was doing the vaccines that the people that were handicapped, including smokers, were able to get the vaccine early because that's a handicap.

What?

That was some shit you just did right there.

What the did you just do?

What the that got to do with you smoking? Are you talking?

Wait, hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Hold up. Cause y'all judging. I don't do that anymore, but I did that a lot.

Okay?

Yo, y'all know how wild smokers are.

Y is feeding crackheads.

On first year of my relationship with my fucking girl. We'd be in the bed in the Four Seasons, drapes closed, lights out, no window open. I'd wake up at 2 in the morning, grab a zig out the pants, and just like that from the bed. Nasty. I used to be nasty. And they don't applaud my growth. I used to be just a disgusting nasty.

I'm with you, bro.

Degenerate. What? Yeah, degenerate. Degenerate growth. I'm the true American success story.

Yes.

Yes. No, I'm the American. I'm the American.

Even though. Even though I agree with you.

Who says that? My nigga?

Yo, look, me, I'm living proof if.

I can do what you can too.

That's what I'm saying.

I'm agreeing with you. You are definitely that.

That's why we're is how you describe.

Yourself up by your snap rags.

That's the American dream.

Ms. Faye gonna get tight.

Yeah. My mom was middle.

Middle class, okay, I know, but the Americans dream that.

No, that's.

I didn't make it up from shit to sugar, no.

Whoop your ass.

Sugar the honey.

I'm. Tell my mom.

She listens to this part.

I'm dead ass. Gonna tell my mom. It's okay. Okay.

She don't play.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Hold on, hold on.

JJ. Worth reading?

Ish. I landed today and I heard that you was outside. You was at a spot called Flamingo New Ice. Now, I thought it was a restaurant in Queens.

It is.

No, a Trinidadian restaurant, but that's not where you was at. You was at another Flamingo in New Jersey.

They were serving up thighs.

What the fuck you was doing in here?

Looking at strippers, nigga.

What you think? What time did you get home?

Probably like 2:30.

2:00.

Oh, shit.

He got some problems.

You outside.

We got him. He got some problems. You was not going before. You was leaving spots early. 11:09. I gotta go. I gotta pick up the bay.

You go telling nobody.

2:00, 2:30.

Yo, what is outside?

That's not true.

You outside a lot.

And the fact that you could say with the strip club is even flat.

Liar.

Some gotta lie and say it was somewhere else.

Sports bar.

My girl likes strip clubs.

Was she with you?

She wasn't with you, though.

No.

Oh, you reckon? Oh, you FaceTime, though. Yo, look, babe, look, you know where I was at.

Look at Keisha.

Would you like me to throw some money?

Thank you.

Say thank you.

Yo, you are stupid. You're an idiot.

Everything good at home, though, bro.

Yeah.

All right.

You. You having us out there?

You outside.

You've been outside.

Yo, what does outside mean? Just so we can be clear.

Not home.

How many times do we drink?

How many times every week?

This past week.

What?

Two, three times?

Steady.

I went out.

Oh, it's your birthday?

I had dinner with Storm on Friday at the Spot.

That's awesome.

Then me and my girl went to the Maxwell show.

That's outside. Doing all day.

That's nice.

That's outside, too.

And the strip club.

And the strip club. That was two weeks ago.

Oh, so that's outside?

That's outside, yeah.

He said this week.

Yeah, two weeks ago. And then this week, like.

But this week just basically started.

No, I know. You be outside and I'm getting out of this. I want you. If y'all going to jump them, jump them.

Don't you have to get out of this because you know I got Some to say to you as well.

I've been outside, too. I'm fighting with my girl, too.

Everybody on. I met outside.

Yeah. N. It's rough.

It's nasty.

Yeah. No, but this how I knew Itch was outside. This I knew we grew apart. This how I knew we grew apart. Itch called me. He was like, yo, you outside. I told y'all. Yeah. And I was like, I could be, but I'm inside right now. Why? What's going on? What's the move? I'm thinking it's a Flamingo move. This nigga says, all right, here's the plan. Y'all know he lying. I'm ready for this. Here's the plan. You already know he lying. Go ahead. All right, here's the plan. My homegirl, a real famous such and such, is having a birthday party in the city. Everyone who's everyone will be dead.

A real famous such and such.

I said, what time does this start?

He said, it starts at this time. It ends at this time. But she's one of them ones. Everybody who is somebody is going to be over there. My plan is to get dressed, hand the baby off to my wife, head over there, party it up, take pics, and I'm done. On a swing back, I'm gonna hit you.

Oh, shit. You second fiddle.

Wait, wait, hold on.

You can't go to this one.

You didn't even get the invite for the.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He invited me. He's quiet. I'm joking about that. He said, and on the swing back, we'll hit that Flamingos. I said, okay, that's not all I. Okay, okay. What time is that over? He said, 12 ish. I says, are we gonna get to Flamingo? What time? Said, probably about 12:31.

That's outside.

Shit, nigga, I'm in bed naked as hell. I looked at the clock, the game was on. I said, yo, I wanna do this, but I fear that that is too much outside, that's inside, in one night like that. What? Nigga, if I tell my girl that my shit, my little strip club runs, got up on the clock. Oh, if I start hitting Stafford first. Are you fucking shitting me? If I go, hey, babe, you can't hit that stuff at first. It's 6:00. I'm getting dressed. I'm head over to Harbor. I'm gonna do dinner, then hit harbor, then go to say Less.

Wait, wait.

Then go to the strip club. See, my girl don't know what she lucky my libido is low.

She's lucky.

I don't even have the energy to play. Like I want to play.

Like, I'm gonna show you, bitch.

Now watch.

But just be home, like, tired.

My brain be saying go.

Yeah, bother be saying 6pm to 3am stretch.

Oh, nah, but you getting dressed. You getting dressed at 6pm look different than you getting dressed at around 11, 11:30.

That's true.

It look dressed. And you got a haircut. Leaving the house at 6pm Nigga, what you gonna do? Who you done met?

Yeah.

That'S the way the fight started last night.

You got a haircut.

The fight always started after the haircut.

No, it wasn't. I can't do it.

You trying to bounce around now? What you doing?

Are you mumbling? You all right?

You said you're embarrassed. Yeah, I can't tell you okay?

Damn, y'all niggas going through it. I feel bad for y'all, man.

Y'all. No, no, we would. We fine. Actually, we better than ever. It's just that little moment where intimacy is there, and it's like, you hear they true thoughts.

It's crazy.

Nah, the niggas be. We be coasting.

We be living when they say they want.

We be at the bar, dinner. Yeah. And you feel good about it because your girl is home suppressing her real thoughts on things.

And you like that.

Yo, he's right.

They don't like. We're not allowed to.

Ah, we not alone.

I'm channeling my inner misogynistic behavior. Listen, here's it. I agree with him. When you just let shit flow the way it's been flowing, I don't hear how you really think about what I'm doing. I'm good. Life is good. But when I hear it, when you fall, when I'm. When I am coerced into being more of a listener and I actually listen a good human. Yeah.

That's corny, though.

I don't like it.

Press your N. S into being good humans.

I don't want to hear that shit.

Y'all gotta get coerced to be in a list.

You got to, cuz, like, sometimes you don't want to hear that. Yo, good morning. How you doing? Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you good? Y'all was good.

Yo, you had a good day. You ate. You good. The kids good. French toast.

Cool.

Peace out.

Let's do this again tomorrow. The whole week?

Yeah.

For life.

Yeah.

Forever. I around last night. Said some and listen. And tripped up my girl to tell me how she really was feeling.

About some things.

And it was early enough in the day, so when we hung up, man, that was lingering. That all my mind started feeling bad inside. I was like, yo, what the fuck?

Fuck my day up.

This bitch is making some points. In order for her to make some sense. I said, well, she's been feeling that way.

You be shocked, yo. I didn't see it coming.

You been feeling like that in a relationship? I thought we was lit.

Yeah, I thought we had a pattern. I thought we had understanding.

You been here feeling like that bitch. Oh, God.

Then I try to find. See, I'm worse than him. I try to find something negative to negate that. Like, all right, let me see what she.

Oh, he did, too.

Did she do something? Oh, that boy's a pro. Oh, he what?

That is married. Threaten some more bows.

But hold on. That.

Get the gym. What? I've been pondering over some things as well.

I don't like the way that you.

Be smooth like new asphalt. No, I don't. When you can't find nothing, you just gotta eat that.

You think that ain't. Get the backflip semi round off Tuck that will. What?

Nobody want to hear that. Like, I'm sorry. I know. Like, I don't want to hear that. You feeling. You got feelings. I didn't even know that. I know you had that. You've been holding it down for so long. I thought that he was a mature mom.

Yeah, but. And I'm the person that's supposed to hear him.

Yeah.

Like, oh. Oh, you told your girlfriend?

Yes.

All right. So I guess it is my turn to hear.

Yeah. Nah, we think this stopped there. Y'all niggas stop right there with your fucked up.

We don't even know how their girls was feeling about, like, for real. That's disease. Your girl got mad.

You said, that's disgusting.

But it's good to listen, though. Like, it's good to listen and hear them out so you could know how they feel later.

Know how to change up.

Yeah, exactly.

Know how to adjust the game plan. Oh, boy.

8, 7 7, 3 9, 3, 4, 4 4, 8. Hold that number.

What the fuck you.

I got choked. I told my wife that. She said, ah.

I don't know what the fuck that.

Is that y'all told her. I don't know that. She ain't supposed to know it, but you him neither.

That's. I. The digital cable.

739-344-8. Digital camera. You know the.

I didn't watch TV.

He know if it came on at home. Depot.

I wanna after you start this down the line. I do wanna get into the fact we was talking off Mike about you. Are you one of those guys that clear the color first before inviting your brothers? I wanna get into that. Cause I. I got. I sent something. I know one nigga you ain't gonna play with, but I'm gonna get to that later.

Cool.

You know, I know one you're not gonna play with.

Well, I try not to play with anybody today.

All right. Cause you said your man had to. You said. I said if the girl like you and she could like your man, would you still invite him? You said, yeah, but he has to deal with me.

That's not what you said.

It's not what you said.

You didn't say that how I said it. Whatever. I just. I just lied about it.

Not what you said at all.

I'm talking about you nigga. I told know that he can't bite you in some spot N A he got to deal with you. We all, we all know who the winner is. Isn't that situation.

I don't care See him trying to start trouble. Siren See him trying to start trouble.

I missed you too.

I missed you too.

He's an idiot. B Worth reading on Yelp, strip club reviews, all fantastic.

Oh yeah.

Every single one of them. Any city in America, you go to Yelp, you type in gentlemen's club and any city. And they're all fantastic. Every single one.

It really is true.

No one ever went there on their own accord. Everyone said. My coworkers decided to take me to the landing strip by the airport in Austin, Texas. My favorite one is the men's club, Houston, Texas. And it's about six down the last time I checked. And this is how it starts. It says, first of all, let me be clear. I only went there for the breakfast buffet.

So well connected.

Just ask about so well connected.

Puerto Rico and all that. Dubai and all that.

Africa.

Atlanta, what's good?

Yes, sir.

Always for the ladies.

Always for the ladies.

Always for the all the getting money out there. All the getting money out there. All the parents and grandparents out there. All the kids in school out there.

Gotta get go Let go, man.

It's that what it is. I'm just successful. Maybe I'm too good too. Hood blow down no good I just keep feel like you should push my fingers blow up my l get this money I know I free the way free the way still we do wrong they both got dirty still we moved on get them cuts up get my.

Groove on I Stay that nigga.

Corey, Relive a moment.

Now. We in today. We here today.

Good energy.

Goodbye, team. Shout to all the ass out there listening. We can't do it without you. Can't do it without you.

What?

These ass niggas listening. Don't shout them out. No, no. I'm glad they shout out to all the dancers out there, all the single moms out there. All the nine to fivers are entrepreneurs. All you crypto out there. Yo, look at Mel's face. Yo, Edison, please. Disgusting. Please pan in on Melissa Ford.

Please.

Fresh off her October London stage debut. Please pan in while she does this white girl honky right now, while we playing real.

I didn't do anything.

She was on stage with October London, so now she coming in here with that Miss Prissy. What's going.

Why you.

What's up?

What's up? I'm enjoying the music just like y'all are. Maybe a little. Not as much as them over here.

Listen, what was that move you guys just did?

What was that?

We weren't doing that move. They was doing that move when they.

Saw me Imani was doing, and we were just.

We was demonstrating with appreciation.

Movement.

Yeah, yeah.

This takes you back to a time.

Got it. Got it. That nostalgia. Hardcore nostalgia.

When the real asses get the.

Yo, don't interrupt black boy joy. Don't interrupt black boy Joy.

Joy.

That sounds racist.

My bro. Sneakers.

Saying, yeah. Only know I got. Only I got. Only God can judge me.

Who the.

Mean. Some of y'all got to go to the bathroom. All right, I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm cool.

I paid too much. You play too much.

Listen, let's keep it up. I might have to go out on a Tuesday night. Huh? I might have to hit the streets on a Tuesday night.

I got relax.

And then the dj.

And then the DJ coming will circulate right after that.

That's a long.

That's a long. Oh, my Lord. Silver. Oh, my Lord.

Circulate. Drop right after that.

Oh, my Lord.

Bring them money left all the time.

They give me my ones on credit. They give me my ones on credit like Atlantic City. I'm just.

I need a marker.

I need a marker.

Give me a marker. Friday. I ain't know all of them was working. I. I've came in unprepared. Had to hit Martin like, here. I send it on Monday, buddy, which means Tuesday.

Yeah, well, you got just a marker at the strip club, you know, that's great. Yo, that's not crazy.

No.

All right.

You know how hard I work to have that type of. You have the cachet A1 credit on your name. You do. It was a time I couldn't borrow credit quarter, so. You goddamn right. I like when that happens. Anyway. Damn, that was fun just now.

What?

That was fun just now.

That took me back.

Good. I'm feeling good right now.

I'll take a rub.

You do strip club this week?

I'll take a rubber band.

Oh, we can do that tonight. Everything that REM gave up her portion of the rent.

Oh, my God. I got a little extra.

You're right.

It is the top of the.

Respect.

That's funny.

Yeah. I mean, that's hilarious.

Yo, you really cool.

You cool. You cool. I don't think people know how cool you are outside park.

That's okay.

You blend right in. I watch you at your party.

Parks are super cool.

You're not a white guy.

What you mean? He blend in?

No meaning like Florence. It was other white people there that didn't blend in too well. There a from came in with gym clothes. All type of. What I'm saying is that Parks was.

Don't do that. I'm talking about male pool buddy.

That's not Mel. But it's just Parks is blending in. He cool. He got swag. I'm looking at like. Oh, he talking about, homie.

Yeah, he talking about he came with gym clothes. Yeah, yeah.

That's my man.

White boys with muscles dress different. I've said that here.

Muscles and money.

We know that.

Them just wear some regular.

Yeah, I didn't know that.

Athleisure.

Get out of Ferrari with some Lulu.

Lemon on zipper jacket.

Lulu Lemon?

Yeah.

Oh, you know, the whole.

Well, I mean, I'm. Yeah, we all know what he was wearing.

No, no.

Oh, well, you might have been focused on something else.

Oh, we say.

Yeah.

Anywho, what episode is this?

I don't know.

765.

Welcome to episode 765 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by a few by Powered by Prize Picks. I am your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some very amazing people to my right. Y'all know the vibes, man. Y'all been to the Lucky Day show. Y'all been to the fucking Maxwell show. Y'all seen her on stage with October London. You've seen all over reality tv. You've seen her all over podcast after podcast, interview after interview. Seen her on the Shade Room live. She's shaking. Shit. Up on the. You seen her in the Senate. You've seen the COVID story on Essence. Like the digital cover. But the COVID story, that's hate. You seen the digital cover story on Essence? Y'all know the vibe. Hair herring. Huh? Huh? Are they talking about big Melissa Ford in the building? Big Melissa Ford is in the building next to her. Really happy to have him back, boy. It was an active few weeks while you were gone. I was home staring at the calendar. I missed you, man.

I miss you guys.

Boy, I really missed you.

Thank you.

Bigqueen flippers in the building.

Well, thank you guys. I missed you guys.

We missed you too, man. Welcome home, man. Next to Flip. Come on, man. Come on. Come on, man.

The champ is here. The champ is here. Let get that haircut. You up to something bad. You save the beard down.

No, no, it's the haircut. And when the Nike swoosh match the is strings in the hoodie, that's what he about to go crazy.

That's what he's going crazy. I didn't even see you do.

And you act like you don't do it on purpose. This is orchestrated, nigga. You go home the night before and.

Plan this with the low cut socks too?

Yeah, first day of school.

Ankles is ankle. You've been using lotion too?

I was gonna ask you for.

Nah, he walking like that a bitch. It fuck him to try to get him to coach. Coach a kid. He looked like a little fucking high school AAU coach.

He got potential, yo. I'm telling you, he could be something as a nigga.

It's a nasty game, but it's efficient. And I'm on to you high school coaches. Oh, yeah, I'm wrong about that. I'm on to y'all.

I don't play.

Yeah. Mom be on the phone reading emails. I come up to that school. Coach Brian says if I just come.

Girl situate, he'll even come pick him up. I don't even gotta bring him. He'll come.

He'll come get him.

I bet he will. No, I'm up here talking whoop.

Coach Brian. Ass, Coach.

Slide his ass.

Yo, Coach B.

Coach Brian.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

Try that over and the twins better jump in with you.

That's hilarious. Yo, N, they got in the thick of things too with some of this. I don't know if we going to talk about it later, but it was all out. Yeah, it was all out.

Twins too.

Yeah, Saying sent a little bots. Sent the bots to the kids.

No.

Yeah. Yeah. You gotta Be ready for digital warfare at all times, my brother. At all times. Hey, when you walk outside, you ready for somebody to punch you in the face, right? You gotta be ready for a n. Yes, you are.

I'm not ready.

You gonna get slapped a random person.

When I come out.

Come on, Joe.

My head is on a swivel album. So then you are ready. That's my point. That's my point. You ready. Gotta be ready. Yeah. Nigga might get the doxing. You. Yo, this nigga aunt live right here. Hudson Gardens.

That's fucked up.

Niggas might get crazy. It's nasty. Oh, man. Anyway, big freeze is in the building. Elizabeth's finest. Y'all know the vibes. Imani is here, huh? Bringing the Pat Ewing's back. Y'all understand. I don't know where the hat is. Oh, and the be my match the words. You are a corny nigga, boy. You matched the hat with the be myself.

Better myself.

Oh, I think from here, it just say, be myself. He got the mic cover. I'm like, oh, man. Imani's been struggling with things. This new form of therapy black men are doing. Just put it on the hood.

Be on myself.

All right, all right. Bet on yourself who you was betting on.

How much you bet on yourself.

Yeah, he sound like it's still a risky bet. Holy. He sound like he's unsure. Like the nigga in momento was writing in the bathroom on his body. You reminded. Yeah, I bet on you. Yo, you are strong.

I'm betting on you are smart.

Hey, when you take that hoodie off, I'm a bet on you, too. Oh, man. I'm a bet on you, man. That's a good idea. Natalie. Water. Fuck you. Holy. Oh, shit. Oh, man. Elmira's finest parks is here. Po is here. Sick twisted brain. Corey is here. Still sick. But some reasons they got perfect attendance. And I caught you. I caught the little ottoman over here with the remote over here. No, when I walked in. You know, you got to come in early to find out what everybody's doing. Cory had the little autumn in the park. He was getting cozy. He had the remote, right?

Yeah.

All right.

You really being here, I thought I. I was just making up.

Yo, Cory being here.

Giving it up in here. Let me see. Do you turn the cameras and around and. Cause it look a little.

She might think some going on.

You put sheets on this? I tried that one time. This way too famous. This. That is. Are you crazy? You talking about. He said it's iconic.

Yeah.

This.

You can't do that.

Why you in your bag that had three phones?

I thought I had it.

I was staring at the two phones right there. I'm like, yeah, this set is some museum.

A complete.

Keep coming in full, son. Straight from the hookah, this nigga.

You gotta stop. You gotta stop.

Cory sick.

You sick.

Yo, first of all, refer to the tag in the front, number one.

Secondly, they never do.

Secondly, because I know y'all not gonna refer to the tag. All of this is for entertainment purposes only. For real. This is not how I act in real life. Unless you make me act like this in real life, then it's your fault.

This thing is not my fault.

A lot of y'all. I was just saying how everybody's getting dumber and dumber. Yeah, we getting. We getting stupid than a motherfucker.

We depend on these gadgets.

Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. Sure enough. But it's all right. Happy to have whole gang here. Let's get right to it. Let's get right to it. Let's get right to it. 40 minutes in words, just the way I love a podcast to start. I do want to hit the round of applause. My girl Lizzo was out there looking good.

She's definitely looking like something.

I want to support her in her body journey. She's looking good. I don't care what. Corey laughing. I don't care what. Cory.

Really pretty.

She looking good. She looks beautiful.

Beautiful.

Yeah. If you just totally strike out at the plate after Club Cheetah and you catch her walking to the car.

Why the fuck would you say that?

Jesus Christ.

You can't do that. Not with her, bro. I know what you're talking about. The ones you talking about.

You know what's going on. Catch them, right? Catch them, right?

It'd be like 409.

You catch them right? At the food store, they'd be right in the food truck right outside. Catch them. I got that girl. Don't even worry about it. I'll pay for Shishko.

I got you. Hey, you'll pay for those, too.

Yeah, yeah.

Pay for that.

Yeah.

Why you skimming on the white sauce?

For my girl, yo.

Yo, why yo? Or girls is right.

Don't stop.

I'm pandering. Yo, they all right. They know us, yo. My girl know.

Until you switch it up. She might know that version, too.

I want to congratulate Lizzo. Looks amaz. Look good. Hopefully she continues that in Opposite News.

Seen the Chief script game?

Yeah.

Watch a great game.

Competitive.

You seen Taylor Walker?

No, I Didn't see.

Does she have a fatty now?

She look like she put a little fluff back there.

I mean, maybe a pad of panty.

A what?

A diaper?

Padded panties?

She might have, cuz it was. She had a little mini skirt on.

It was lift up.

You a pervert. You zoomed in, didn't you? You trying to. You trying to press the arrow. The little circle zooming arrow on your phone and zooming in.

Taylor Swift is getting thick.

Kelsey might have put some of that.

You know, back shots, you know what I mean?

You know how he like him?

I don't get. She had a little miniskirt on. She looked a little. A little fluffy.

You know how you like him?

Nice and chocolate and thick.

You know, he the white whisperer. He wouldn't know when a white girl get thick. Yeah, get that shit over.

White whisperer.

That's what I talk to all the whites. Nigga, they know you. That's why you and Paws get piggity. All you gotta do is call Park's name and.

Hey, dog, look, I'm running up the stairs at the Maxwell show, right?

You went to the Maxwell show? Yeah.

You was running up the stairs.

I knew that, but look how I just made it sound suspenseful.

I know, Watch out.

These niggas real talk.

Yo, I'm running up the stairs, right? And I hear somebody say, girl, nah, don't fuck with that nigga, girl. He don't even like black girls.

Nah, I don't like seeing.

This is some.

Yo, yo, how you hear that in.

A loud ass concert say for you to hear them?

No, it wasn't going on at the time.

Maxwell gotta perform for him to do the stairs.

That's what I was stuck on.

Finally did some stairs. You're an idiot, bro. That's always fun when you hit a girl's mind. You talking about.

No, I was running.

So I. Cuz you didn't let that ride. Of course you had to get light skin on the.

On the business.

That's. That's still light skin.

You was with your girl anyway, so.

I was running up the stairs, not.

Running up the stairs. We got to make his round.

You made your girl run too.

Hey, sit here. Hold the seats, hold the seats. Go get us some drinks. 30 minutes later, crazy. The shit you get away with is.

So why do girls still fall for that? Yo, hold the seats. I'm gonna go get us some beverages.

But you want hot dogs, you want some popcorn?

She got mad sex.

All right, make it back 45 minutes later.

An hour And a half. I missed the whole show back with this bitch by the bathroom. It was a crew of them. Oh, shit, Joe. I got that off in five minutes or less. Like heat. Oh, you gotta get in and out. When you're a girl watching the seats. That girl watching the show. Nothing the wiser. Journey I been alive. Jon, you coming to catch Maxwell Last unfortunate to have you.

And you sing it to your girl.

And then you kiss her on the head. On the forehead. Yeah, you sing it to her. You made such a great show. Yo, yo, you was out there laying your pretty wings. You still here in these seats.

I thought.

I thought you left. I'm mad fortunate you stayed here for the whole.

Actually waited three hours for me.

I bought you a merch hoodie, too.

Yeah, go ahead. Get you a little Jasmine Sullivan Teacup.

Go ahead, girl.

N. I'm fortunate. Yo, Mel. Hate us.

Why?

Cuz we just sound like today.

Yes, very much. Yes, yes. There's a lot of testosterone flowing right now, but I appreciate it. Black boy Joy. Have at it.

Don't say testosterone around me no more.

Oh, I'm sorry.

It gotta come out somehow. When you faithful, you gotta hold on to some part of who we used to be.

Diggadom.

Yeah, I get it.

All right. Speaking of beautiful women and holding on to who you used to be. Concerts and concerts. Concerts, that's good in the A block or A minus block. Cause we just talked too much. Safari took it upon himself. And I wrote it down early before the blogs made it a thing. Soon as he said, yo, I'm going to Gag City. I want to see. I say, oh, shit, I want to see too. Soon as he said he want to see, I want to see. I was watching his page all night. Safaree went to Nikki's Miami tour stop, Gag City, in a jean vest. And y'all know that's from the famous clip of. Of Nikki coming out in beautiful little white jacket. And him saying immediately, soon as she step out the door, yeah, you look horrible. See, that's what you do. You gotta keep these bad bitches in check. Yeah, you look horrible. You look a mess. But Nikki was too headstrong for that. And she said, nigga, I look great. I'm beautiful. You are you. And you wore a jean vest. You can't talk to me about nothing, Nigga.

Shit it on.

And as somebody that wore mad jean vest.

That was your bag.

She kind of helped me get out of that bag. Her and the rest of the girls.

Thank you, Nick.

It was a mess. It was A mess. Those vests without arms. Even Lisa Safaree got arms. Yeah. Now, safari work out. So Safari work out. And put on the tight, tight boxer brief so the can see his balls and all types of. He is them Jamaican. They play different. I just try to buy the drink.

The Magnum. Magnum.

I tell you, I try to try to do something smooth. Them don't give a. They start doing pull ups. Did you say Magnum?

There's a drink called Magnum.

We gonna get arrested. But anyway, Safaree went to the show with security and because I know Nicki Minaj, I know that she was gonna know that he was dead and speak to him from stage.

You're lying.

Directly or.

No, she did directly, but not directly.

It was direct enough. It was direct to me without saying, let me get my phone out so I can tell y'all, please. Are y'all crazy? Do y'all know Nicki Minaj is petty? Y'all had Nicki Minaj that literally facts, double entendre. Let me go to my. All my bookmarks. I say I saved all of these. Are you me? Because the fans were like, yeah, that ass. Here we go. I play this a little bit, but I saved 90 of them, so some of these might be. Let's see, let's see. All right, this is Safari Hype. He's singing the words with fans. This is when he was having a good time. Hey, I'm a chip, I must sip. Yeah, he having a blast. Come on, don't worry. Just let him have his fun. He got a cup in his hand. Oh, now Nikki on stage talking about exes stalking her.

Have you ever had your heart broken? And did you. You cry all day and you didn't.

Want to get out of bed and you couldn't eat. Oh, she weaponized. No audience against you, nigga.

And then one day you woke up and you realized you were way better off without that moron.

Oh, shit. Yo, I'm pausing this. And then you wake up one day and realize you were way better off without that poor arm. I heard poor arm. And the AI that be fucking the words up at the bottom. Him said poor arm. Poor arm. Stupid. Yo, but what if the was a poor arm, too? You know, she a rapper. I left. Oh, man. All right, she did the song. Now get out of here. All right. Then she brought her husband on. She did dirty wine on him. Oh, he. Oh, no. Oh, wait, this one. They kicked Safari out. They kicked him out.

They kicked him out.

Yeah, that's what it says.

Yeah, they extorted him Out.

No, y'all don't hear them kick him out.

Yo, they really got him out of there.

Yeah, they get security escorted them out. You at my show.

I don't want you here.

Bob, he was. Was he antagonizing?

If the headliners start dissing me from the stage, yeah, I'm probably leaving too. True.

Like, it's a safety issue at that point, cuz. Bars would have whooped his ass in there.

Did you hear the people taping how they sound?

Yeah, yeah, they ready to turn.

That's for you.

I gotta give it to him. He's a good sport. Yeah, he's standing up in the alley doing all that type of shit. Listen, I don't know that I would be able to do that.

He spoke after that too.

Yeah, I'm not gonna play it. I'm not gonna play it. I mean, he did a little vlog. He started a vlog. He's on YouTube saying, hey, I'm going to gag city. I'm wearing the vest. This is why I went. I'm proud of her. I'm happy for her. I was a part of, you know, so it feels good to see her like that. I still don't think you could go. Go?

You don't go.

Yeah, you can't go.

I don't think so.

You can't.

You can't go.

You can. You shouldn't go.

Well, that's what we he means.

Or if you go, you do it in a way where you suddenly like, you don't go and make a spectacle out of it.

There's no way for him to go to a Miami Nikki show and be in college.

He could have been in a. He could have been in a box up in a corner somewhere. It would have been that type of.

A deal if it was genuine. He should have reached. Tried to find a way to reach out to her first just to give this. What this one. Not maybe directly to her people. To her people. Hey, listen, I don't want to make a spectacle out of this. I want to come to the show.

Just that request is making a spectacle.

Absolutely.

We don't with you and you know it. We don't with you and we know it. We spoke in years. I'm your ex from exes ago. I'm your ex from exes ago. We both done had kids since then.

So let me ask you a question.

But if I'm a part of your.

Come up, I was about to say.

Are they beating it's beef if one person don't see safaree. Thing was I can go to this concert just as a concert goer, and that should be cool. I can't speak to whether or not they beefing, but I'm sure Nikki and her husband didn't care for safaree being there. And then the husband did the video. They did the video together. And the husband said, we walking around. We walking around. He said, we walking around. Hey, if I see you in that vest outside, that's what I'm walking around like.

Even that. Even though. Even the wearing of the vest.

The wearing of the vest.

And sometimes when you antagonize, you get what you're looking for.

Yeah, it doesn't come off. Yeah, it doesn't come off as him being genuine or authentic for wanting to go. It's creating the spectacle.

I'm here. I got. What do you have two bodyguards or something?

Stick, I think it was four.

You. You making a scene here at my show.

See, this is my thing with y'all, though. This is some great part and we doing. But. And not to offend our woman audience, the 3% of y'all, that's out there. More than that. Four, seven.

That's climbing.

That's climbing.

Are we getting sexier?

Telling you, it's getting up there.

40%.

35. It's not.

No, no.

35, y'all. I look at the numbers. It's not 40%. But listen, everybody here has kind of fake stalked an X before. See? And real.

See, yeah.

See, for me, what is the difference between fake stalking and real stalking?

Well, like the scary version or not scary version?

Yes.

Yeah, stalking.

Like the keeping up.

Like. Okay, like hiding in the bush arm is. Yes. Yeah, but the fake stocking is just.

No, she's going to call the police if you. If she see you on this block. Y'all are not.

Know what time. Know what time she going to work and just drive past the block, you know?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

You might be at a club.

I might end up there too. Yeah. Okay.

That's just lights.

7:30 versus you get a phone call that she's somewhere. All right.

Yeah.

Get a phone call, she's somewhere. So happen I want to go there.

Fancy seeing you here.

No, she goes to the store. Be in the store a little bit earlier than she.

You know her routines.

Yeah.

Okay.

How do you feel about what we're saying? We about to have a real in parks kind of talk right now.

No, Mel said she did this before, too. Oh, Mel's a. She said she did this before. Too.

So why aren't you sitting here trying to be pretentious?

I'm not trying to be pretentious. You're down with the good, stalking, lightweight, heavyweight. I've never been a heavyweight lightweight.

Okay, like, if I catch you, like y'all said, you got a hosting somewhere for sure. I mean, I saw that flyer. I like bottles too. Yeah, I'm going.

I'm free that night.

Stop playing.

That's why your ankle.

I'm here to support.

That's it.

And I'm really just here.

I'm bringing friends to support.

Make your light look.

Yeah, I might even send some drinks away.

We're ordering food, we're buying out the bar.

And you know who be giving it up on where our exes be at, too. A lot of times, the waiter and waitress.

Oh, they'll text you.

The waiter and waitress is gonna tell me that you was here the night before with a nigger, and it been the last. She been coming here.

She's a regular.

Yeah, and I'm gonna pop up the next Wednesday and just sit there.

Yo, you will do it too. Yo, let me tell you something.

I've. I know, unfortunately been down a forbidden path where I used to live.

As much as be saying you a punk or you a sucker, you don't give a. Like, I be like, yo, y'all don't know this thing.

Well, I believe in love.

And you will risk it all.

And not only.

And you will risk it all and.

And I uphold what? The values of love.

Oh, she was in seven. Oh, okay.

I'll be back.

No, that will go dolo.

I was gonna say dolo here.

Go dolo. Thursday's guy it seven.

I was. I used to be nuts.

Punctual.

I used to be nuts.

That's what I need this be. Yo, dog, we in sp. Oh, never mind. Go ahead. Oh, well, the show.

Go ahead. That's going to the show.

Yeah. You put my life in jeopardy.

That one.

No, not that.

One little story.

No, not that.

And wait, before you tell a story, cuz I do want to hear it. I should tell you, I don't value my friend saving my life.

I know.

Like, that don't mean nothing to me.

We know.

All right, but go ahead.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Back up.

I don't hold that. And no, you keep saying that like I should be grateful that I'm alive. Cause he helped that night. I don't give a about that.

It was more than one night.

But go. I wanted the new story.

We had. We had what was the old Jimmy's Bronx.

How you know I ain't depressed every day and really wanted to go out in the blaze of glory.

I didn't want to be in the glory.

Why? By yourself then? Yeah, don't blaze me up.

No, they. They going to let you go.

I don't want to be blazed.

Yeah, not him. It's just him we want to get.

Look how fast the friendship turn. I don't want to die for you.

Mad on the other side of the bar. Shorty come over like, yo, stop. Don't go over there. You know what I'm saying? I'm looking at her like you instigating. He says, what? This goes all the way around the bar like, oh, Jesus.

Yo, running.

I'm running behind this. It's 50 off there ass Joe bum. And that really went right over there and stood in the middle of the. Like this. Yeah, let me get a pineapple, cranberry and orange juice. Yo.

How to crack you over?

I mean, when you do stuff like that, you're prepared for the consequences.

I'm not gonna be the dude that's in the strip club when the lights come on or toward the end. And now everybody is that we see each other. Hey, Joe, buddy. Yo ass nigga. You and I sit there and drink my drink N. You can go in the middle.

You got to go to the thick of it.

You're right. I'm like, it's going to be what it's going to be in there.

At that point, love will have you doing some silly.

You ain't lying.

And that was. Wasn't even love. That was just some chick on the. On the good. It was a good one night.

I wasn't in love with her. Why we got to get jammed up?

Cuz you in love.

I don't think you know tonight to.

Talk about you as a love the girl.

Well, that's cool. I loved it. Yeah, and she did that to me. That's the other part.

I'm telling you, it's not the same time.

That's the other part about love. I'd be shocked when she don't uphold the values of what be phony.

Man, what did she do? Double standards.

And our argument. Our argument House. I'm with the devil's D. I am too. Look, man, I'm in trouble again. So. Yeah, good stalking. As much as I'm against this, this falls under good stalk stalking. I just don't think you should do it. Nikki's too big.

No, I think. I think it falls more under if you.

If one of your exes had potential and really met that you gotta. You lose.

But it's not stalking.

You lose. Your ex is on arena tours. They brought her back out. She finished the arena tour. Sold out everything album. So they called her back out as a mom and a wife. So thinking went into that. Don't come up here play. Don't come up here and play. Not here. Come.

You could have did it without letting even.

Yeah.

I think he did it for the.

He did that.

He was attention.

What you call that clickbaity.

Yeah.

But it's not chasing clap chasing.

Yeah.

I think he did that if it's an isolated.

But I also do think he was proud.

I believe both could be true. But there's a way to be proud without doing the attention seeking stalking would.

Consider more than once. Like it's isolated. It's one time. So I don't think it was stalking. I think that he was just.

And he playful on some. You know.

I don't think he was proud.

Stalking would be like 3 or 4. Show the 2 or 3 then. Are you stalking? I think that this was just. Just to be funny.

What do you think that was like him mocking her.

Know that that's true.

What.

What.

As far as the stalking charge applies. But I don't want it can't be one.

So one time you can get a stalking charge.

If that person can prove that you are not supposed to be here, don't be here and are only here for to harass me then yeah. I think they can put that charge on you. The law experts out there could let me know.

Please let us know.

Please. But I sure enough went to Papacitos one time. I wasn't just popping up to Papacitos like that on Diamond. It was one time. Yep. This is outside of Papacitos in a hood in 90 degree weather across the street. He on his night cigarette. Yes. And I don't feel like that's normal. They coming to get you the out of this if you stay there look.

So we.

That's a wee bit different look.

That's a wee bit.

I don't want to sound knowledgeable. What happened?

Him going to the concert is not harassing.

Nah.

No, no, no, no. And she ain't gonna do that. She see she. She gonna handle it with street justice.

Yes.

Yeah. She's not calling the police.

Him going to the conc concert is not. The concert is not harassing her. But it's corny that when you took that moment and made it about you I agree.

No, I agree.

You could have did that without the vlog. Without all of that. Yeah, but see how we get your ass. Whoop.

She find out that he was there.

Can you put it public? Like, he's.

Like, he puts that out.

Okay, so, like, he's in the concert.

Entertainers don't see nothing, huh?

Well, I mean, she's on the stage.

No, she wasn't on the stage.

He did it prior to.

Crew of people.

Prior to. He said he was going.

He did it prior to.

So now we look at him going to the show, now the fans are gonna see me. I'm wearing a vest.

So he did pre and post vlogging.

That's why none of this had to do with any genuine being proud of her. Yeah, I wanted to go there to make a spectacle.

Yeah.

If I wanted to go there on some real proud moment. And even if you were proud, you weren't proud about her. You were proud that you were attached to those moments. So it's still about you.

Yeah.

Yes.

You can still be proud.

I was proud of her.

I was about to say, yo, I think that there's a way to do that from where they came from. He might feel some genuine and sincere proudness for her.

So to showcase that you do it in a genuine.

You don't do it this way. I'm not disagreeing with that piece at all. I'm agreeing with you. I think it was clout Chacey, But I think that deep down inside, he's probably mad proud of her.

Both could be true.

Yeah, maybe.

Yeah, I agree. Safaree is a friend of the show. Nikki is a friend of the show. I'm gonna wish them both well. Safaree, you gotta be careful when you're doing the lighthearted stuff. Stalk. You gotta be careful. That's all I'm saying. True that. Kenneth. Looked like all of us stopped stalking. Right? We don't do the lightweight stalk no more, right?

No, wait, No, I don't think so.

Yeah, we do the no weight stalking.

Yeah. Oh, y'all think that you can't do it Cause y'all in relationships.

No, you can stalk her too.

Oh, okay. I'm just checking. Oh. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, you can still stalk your girl.

Stalk her page.

Yeah, you can Disney my girl st me.

I think mine too. But it's cool.

Yo.

As long as they don't ever talk. I don't want to get so stupid. But it's only for content. It's only for content. And it's only because I. I keep it squeaky clean outside of the content. Hopefully she knows this joke. I don't want a pod where you can't joke on your girl.

That's true.

I don't. I think that's corny.

That's your point. Great point.

I feel like that's the bulk of America that's in. Out there working, complaining about life at home. I want to still relate to them people that. Yeah, Sorry, baby. I can't wait till little miss Ma'am get a man. I'm gonna kick that back. And you ain't got to say nothing. I'm gonna kill him. He gonna be. He gonna meet old Joe. Eat the Joe that you couldn't bring your partner around if you was a girl. I'mma light that boy up.

Oh, well, you know what? That'll be the litmus test for him anyways.

Yo, that's rough. And that's not fair.

Number one, it ain't fair. Number two, what if he acid in the litmus test?

What if he what?

Acidic? Anybody don't play them games. My true.

That's very true.

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There you have it. I got a weird cut in my nose and I have no idea how it got.

It might be a pimple.

Welcome to my 40s. Yo, did you start using a man's little trimmer?

Shit.

100%. That's what it's crazy.

Or an ingrown hair.

That's what it is.

My nose is crazy. But the fans don't give a. Fans will get on to more stalking news. I know y'all are Cardi B'd out from this podcast, so we'll try to make it less long but not brief. Cardi B was at a club and Offset was there. Word on the curb is that he just popped up there. Also, word on the curb is that he just popped up at the birthday party for the grandma or some shit and was dancing with the grandma. I don't know any of this stuff to be true or false, but it certainly is provocative.

That's a good listen, man.

So here we are.

When the family love you.

Props to you, Offset.

Ooh.

You know, hey, hey, hey.

Props to you, Nana Love it. You. So y'all. Your. Your stance on this is you support stalking.

No, no, I support family love.

I love Nana.

Exactly, man.

Keep your ass away from my family.

That's my family, too.

Y2 on this topic, boy, they are married.

Exactly.

That's my family, too. Married.

Your grandmother loves me.

Talk about it. And always she loved me more.

And I was inviting you.

Look.

So say you. That ain't what Nana told me.

I ain't crashed this either. I was invited.

Yeah, yeah.

They hit me and said, yo, we haven't seen Nana in there.

Two stepping with Miss.

You know us do that to show that I know our power dance with Nana.

Guess what, Nana Allowance to come up short, too, Huh?

I got it.

Don't go against me.

I got that. I got it.

You're not gonna shorten it on allowance. No, you're not. Yo, and you're gonna go get that ice cream.

Exactly.

And you're gonna go get that ice cream.

And when you walked in and you seen that two stepping with Nana, you smiled.

It felt good.

Hey, yo, stop.

Yo, I don't know that she ever walked in, so I won't comment on it. I'll submit to you guys. Guys, is Nana point. Speak to me about the club now. What? Now be stupid.

I want.

I felt like going out tonight.

Where's that tonight?

Mad place.

Where's that? Where's that tonight? Yo, we over here. Okay, cool.

Let's mad. Hey, stop.

Yo, what city they was in is New York. It's only one place to party in New York.

On. I'mma say it.

I want to go to the lit spot.

I'mma say it. Cuz. These don't want to say it. You are. They're married. You are able to do things like that and go back and get your wife. You're able to go.

He missed the combo greenhouse.

Nigga. It's only one spot.

Wasn't married.

It's only one spot popping on Tuesdays.

I'm on both sides of this, so I don't want to make a whole bunch of jokes.

Got it.

You married? I do feel like you should be.

You can go get your wife.

Get your wife back. By any means necessary. Not by any means. I'm just saying some people that believe in love are in the no matter what club. And we're going to uphold our vow even when it gets difficult.

That's not doing anything.

Yeah, exactly. And after all that talking you did online.

Well, that's why I'm on the other side of.

Of them.

If you want to keep your marriage, you do have to behave a certain way. So it's such a personal matter. I don't really want to comment on their situation, but I do understand both sides, man.

Let's speak like do it was out there.

Yo.

And if anybody over there get two hands.

Yeah.

I told y'all though. And we're not gonna argue. I told you that you gotta play with your partner differently if they have a different level of cachet. And this is only what I mean because if you thought your wife was chump, like, if you thought your wife couldn't get shaken out there, you wouldn't need to pop up to Nana house or the club. To that you say what's not true.

That's a fact.

Let me hear them expound on.

So what I say to that is the same thing I said in the initial argument. I think he's seeing something right now. He's seeing a side of what he never seen before.

Exactly.

Like now I might believe.

Oh, like, so then you agree with me. So why would you on the other side.

Nobody thinks she's chump. You're not marrying her if you think she's chump.

Nobody was saying chump. Nothing about, no, you're not marrying her.

If you think she's chump.

He don't think she's chump.

He's in love with her. Yeah, we put babies in her.

Exactly.

He don't think she's chumping. What are we talking about with babies.

And bitches that we don't love every day?

He didn't marry. We didn't marry them and put multiple in them.

That's true. So I'm not talking about.

Those are different.

He don't think she trump. Nigga. I'm out here playing around and got caught playing around.

Now I gotta find a new bag.

That I gotta do to get my girl back.

He's finding a new bag to get his girl back.

What are you talking about?

The old don't work no more. Let me find something new to try to get her back.

But the fucking shit that he was firing off before, like when this whole story fucking.

Oh, that's ego.

Ego that they both were firing. Cause she just put some shit out like, yo, that's still my nigga. Or something like that.

Yes, she did.

She said, yo, that's my older.

That wasn't this.

Oh, that wasn't.

No, no, that wasn't new. It just resurfaced that.

But that goes back to my question about when do you as a man, check your ego?

Exactly. Because he was sounding so.

Go ahead.

I was gonna say he just sound. He was sounding so fucking cavalier about the whole thing. Reducing her to baby mama.

Yeah. I feel like y'all. I feel like y'all on that.

Check it.

We had that argument was on the side of niggas have egos for a reason. And if you keep coming back, there's no reason for me to relinquish it.

Correct.

I'm saying as you do the good stalk. When you found out the club that your girl is hosting at, you don't do it with your ego leading first.

No, I don't think he's in ego mode anymore. I'm telling you.

So you agree with me.

I'm not agreeing with you. I'm saying that he. Ego was there at first, and now I'm seeing some shit that I've never seen before. I might really lose her. Not before. Where it was. We song and dance.

She'll be back.

I don't want to go on my Stefon Diggs rant. Again? Cause my girl just took her ass to the Texans game as soon as I did it.

No.

Threw Stefon Diggs tickets, like. All right, God boy.

Yo, listen.

God must be God.

This is a far cry from what y'all were saying like, last week.

That's what I'm saying. Get a male.

No, it's not.

Turn up on these niggas.

True.

No, it's not.

Let it go.

Not.

It is.

Because you guys were talking about the past behavior, and the past behavior is you always came back. That's all I know. And now there's an acknowledgment of like. Oh, wait, hold on.

She might not.

Hold on, hold on. Yeah, she really actually moving different. And this does not look normal.

Yeah, you can't play both sides.

Exactly.

When you've been bunny hopping over the gate the whole entire time. What I'm telling you is when he got on that stage and did the grand jury gesture, it worked. What's the difference in him doing a grandeur gesture now? I just happen to take it bigger and better.

I know.

This just happened, right?

I might have had to buy one carrot right before. Then I had to buy a Lambo. Then I might gotta do this, then I might gotta do that.

I can answer you.

Sure.

That's. I think that's fair.

Cool. That's it.

We've done the tricks before when we've had to pull the rabbit out the hat and go on stage and get our girl back. And it worked. So we applaud him for that. Cool.

Okay.

If we're talking about that cat, I'm on y'all side, okay? We talking about 90 million times later where this. The. The. It's new tricks go. New tricks to a new cat.

It's a bunch of rabbits out here, Joe. It's a bunch of hats.

You don't want those rabbits. It's not. See, and that's what you said before. You want your wife.

Wait, how do you.

And you're noticing different behavior. No, it might.

Hold on, hold on.

Ish.

This just happened a month ago yesterday. Yesterday. We don't know if he's now realizing. Okay, what had worked before ain't gonna work today.

So now let me go ahead.

One part y'all keep overlooking. Just from the public side.

She.

She fucked somebody else.

Exactly.

We don't know that. No, we don't know that for sure. We don't know that for sure.

She said and did, bro.

Cool.

Not the end. Did. And at least in his mind, she fucked somebody.

He.

We've never seen that part before.

Exactly.

Me and my girl could go through it. Whatever, whatever. We have our fallout. We come back, I do whatever I gotta do. In that time, I never knew that she wouldn't fuck somebody else. He is under the impression like, okay, so now you're moving different. This is something I've never seen before. So now I might really be losing.

The chick and left flip clothes. I don't want us to beat this down.

All of this stuff is the stuff that's coming out in the public. There's probably so much other shit we don't fucking know.

Offset. Cardi might be sleeping in the same bed right now.

Well, let me. Let me say. Let me say. Let me say. Let me say this.

You ain't gonna fuck. No.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Says who?

Me?

Some of these, we don't know what's happening, period.

I had that my bad talk with y'all before. The bitches be talking about, oh, this is our bed. No, this is my bed.

When you cheat a lot and you and your wife or your girl get to get back, now you weigh your options. Now you're willing to look. Now you're wearing your options and willing to forgive her for her cheat. Cause you, like, I did mad shit. You weigh your options, nigga. Human beings.

We're human beings.

Like, damn, I did a lot of shit. She got this one shit off.

She's correct.

And let me go back and get my girl, because now I know she's not playing. So now I have to up it. It happens.

He's right.

These things happen. And we.

If I fuck 70 girls and your girl fuck one dude.

Yeah. It's gonna hurt the most. What she did hurts.

You know why I don't want to continue to have this argument with y'all? Because Cardi is a Libra. And I do believe that he's gonna get her back.

Cardi solid more than a Libra. She just.

He's gonna get her back.

She's solid.

Solid.

It's just who she is.

And she's a wife. Let's do that. Yes.

And she's silent. She know the game.

I was hurt, so I'm not gonna keep having this talk with y'all. But I'm way on the other side of wherever y'all stand at in regards to how, niggas, if you have something.

Valuable out there, hold on to it.

Hold it.

Do what you need to do to hold on to it.

Nobody's a disagreement with that.

We agree with that.

You guys disagree with that?

That Whole.

No, we did not. Into the 50. We said that. That's not true. Because you came in and said the same thing. Nobody said. Y'all were saying that she is at a level that he shouldn't cheat on. And y'all were basing that based on.

Jonah, we said that and she is based on.

No, listen, he didn't want.

Holly Berry.

Listen to what I'm telling you.

He didn't want.

Y'All saying. We all are all in agreement. Y'all are saying that Cardi B. Cardi B. Is above being cheat on. And that's what we all sat on and said.

No, I'm never saying that.

Y'all said he should cheat differently.

Y'all did. That's literally bringing up her social status as a marker for him not to cheat. And I'm saying if the lady was a school teacher.

That's not what they said.

Yes, they did.

No, that's not.

We don't need to harp on it. We did it for three hours. Then if you think that's what we said, then let me. Let me rephrase it. Then you shouldn't do that if that is the person that you want to.

Be with a thousand percent, regardless of how much money she got or her status.

So then we fought for nothing then.

No, we fight for nothing.

Quite a bit of let's move forward.

But the whole point that was being made was, hey, hey, offset, if you're going to cheat, how about you cheat up or cheat in a different way?

Are y'all still down to good stalk? You're somebody that you meet and somebody that your partner. Depending on how I go in the future.

Nah.

Yes.

No.

Hey, hold on. Wait, wait.

No.

That was a top for sure.

A thousand percent.

Yeah. And she gotta know it. You gotta know it.

You gotta know.

Sorry.

Yo, listen, let me tell you, you.

Missed a lot flip, though.

I can't.

I don't want my feelings.

Let it be my baby through weekend.

Listen, so you get this look. You get to stalking and find some.

You don't want to see.

See. You walked over there right to the.

Real quick, real quick. That I missed that Parks. We done mutt.

Listen, listen. We not even going to do it. We not going to do it. They was talking some.

Like. What are we talking about? Who said cheat up?

We could do it on Patreon. The.

The youngest in the room said it.

What? And they backed it to cheat up.

You know, third oldest.

First of all. First of all, that sounds crazy.

Yeah. No, he's right. I'm the second oldest dude you are. He's right.

I can't believe you. You Jackson and I don't mind it either.

I don't care what DDG said. No, for sure. Yo, if you go get the girl, stop your dreams.

Joe, stop.

You know I said that Cardi B is the LeBron James of offsets type. That's what I said. You.

You cannot be screaming. You need to have sexual discipline in your cheating. No, just have sexual discipline. That exactly what said. You need to practice.

Now you pardon. And if you keep pardon, we're gonna part.

That's what y'all said. Do you want to go back to the clips?

See, I practiced this. I just told my girl this last night. I practiced this. Yo, stop talking to me about this mutt. With or without you, nothing is happening with this. You know why? Sexual discipline. Don't talk to me about whatever you think in your brain. Who she liked, the pig she follows. She comments in different. Yo, dog, whether you exist or not, the that I am today ain't gonna do nothing.

You're talking a different point from what was before.

I wish I was it.

Y'all don't think what I just said is Joe, you don't think that's sexual? No.

What you said girl that you don't want to.

Exactly.

You said. Hold up. Hear me out. You said with or without your girl.

You're trying to get me in trouble before this. No, I'm not.

I promise you I'm not.

Can we say. Wait, listen to me. Can we not give him credit because he. He. He turned down some fire joint a bunch I've been around so his sexual.

That's not sexual discipline.

Be clear. When Joe is single, my. When Joe was singing single Joe could sleep in a bed with a baddie and not and she be throwing herself at him.

That's sexual.

No, it's not. Let me tell you why. Why I'm about to. He didn't want to her sexual. Let me talk. Yo, sexual discipline is. I would this in a heartbeat if I was single. I'm not single, so I'm not gonna you. But if I was single, I would lay your ass why.

Moving to go back to the conversation, bro. Sexual discipline would be you just not cheating on your wife.

That's what I just said.

Whether you wanted to the girl or not. That was the basis of our conversation. And yo guys, to a whole nother point you would say you should have sexual discipline by up. No, just don't.

No, no.

That was not one of you guys.

We Beat it, you guys. We beat it, you guys.

There is no more or less.

It's okay.

Say no more.

It's okay. We did it. We disagree on some things. Things we still love each other. They probably will reunite, and we do got fire to discuss. Hopefully that last part that we did, that it wasn't nothing fire to discuss. So we just did.

There's more important issues, such as Ciroc has made everybody gay.

I knew I didn't like Ciroc. I knew, yo, something was funny about it.

That give you a headache?

It was one.

Is there a particular flavor that does the job?

All of it.

All of it. Okay, so Coconut.

Did he change the game again? Change the LGBTQ community again?

Really expanded the door. Open the doors.

Why are we saying that people are gay from Ciroc?

Dame Dash said that he may have spiked the Ciroc like he was in the factory with the Ciroc, but Puff wasn't.

All right, got it.

You don't think pump made this rock?

No. Come on, man.

What the fuck is Dame Dash talking about?

Dame had an interview, and someone asked him about certain things, and he was talking about how he was hearing. Yo, he didn't know that maybe some of the cirat was spiked.

At the factory? No, at the party.

Oh, at the party. Okay, okay. Not at the factory.

Which.

Then he said, yo, I ain't gonna lie. I went and did Nori joint. He was offering me to take the shots at Ciroc. Nah, I have my own joint. I drank that. And then as soon as Nori took the shot of Serat, told my take your shirt off. And.

What is going on, bro?

I'm just telling you what Dame is saying.

It's.

It's insane.

Did he say something about the Doucet, too?

He said the deuce. He said. He said, hold on.

What does Duce do?

Say make you gay too.

What does Doucet do?

So he said, yo.

He said, yo, he hit up. He went to take his daughter to one of the shows. J show joint. He go backstage, he start drinking the Doucet, and it got him, like, extra drunk.

Got him loose.

Got him a little loose. He's like. He was thinking, like, yo, what if there's a connection? What if between.

Like, liquor making you feel in, you know, between gay.

What was that movie on Netflix where they put the.

The Aaron Hernandez dog? Oh, Jeffrey Dahmer. I mean, it's one of.

What the is this guy doing? I can't say that, bro.

You ain't gonna be gay and kill Me and put me in the fridge ever.

Gay is weak.

I'm not saying that.

Oh, I don't. Because you met a couple of strong gay. We might. I saw. I saw a strong gay beat the out somebody. And I act like I was gonna jump in, but I changed my mind. Threw that all into the. That's when the phone poles was there. Threw that all into that. No. Nah. Niggas are strong. So them is us.

Them is us.

Yeah, humans.

They men. That's what.

Yes, they're human.

Oh, my God.

They're just, like, balls hitting their chin.

That's Tanner. Tanner. Right in the time stamp. Tanner. Can a gay dude sleep you?

Yes.

And I say yes to that.

Of course.

But don't sleep me and take it.

No, that's crazy.

We in jail.

Can't do that.

Is it? Cause. Yes.

Yes, yes, yes.

It may look like it's a chance. You about to sleep me. I'm getting naked.

Yeah, that might be Justin.

You get ready.

You can't say that. Set it up easy for him. That's why the little nigga said what he said about you. Nigga, you free.

Look at my body, nigga. And stop.

You might be his type, though.

Stop. Stop. Cause I'm in war. I'm in digital war. I can't even find nigga telling all these high schoolers that I'm fucking gay or bisexual. I can't even play no more. Listen, nigga, I'm gonna get to you later, buddy. And I don't know if I am. Cause I fucking went and did research. And now I like you a little bit, but you've been a little.

Nah, the kids know him. J.R. was giving me a. Like, J.R. was giving me a whole breakdown.

I'm sitting on the side. I knew so much about the kid, but I ain't wanna.

JR Gave me a whole breakdown on our way to the airport from Jamaica of who he is, how he was DDG'd out. I'm like, what are you talking, J.R.

No, he's one of the first OG. He's the OG of that.

Yeah, sure. J.R. gave me a breakdown.

Keep dick rodding.

Yo, stop saying stop.

I already gave him enough props. Here y'all go. No, no, no, no, no.

My little brother.

Let us go. He did you down. He put the word. I just gave him some credit. Yo, if I'm beefing with a Don't stand behind me.

Are you walking back? Your point?

I'm beefing with a Don't stand behind me and give the credit.

We end up falling Prey to your stupid. You say out your pray.

Don't, don't, don't. No, we want to clear up cause.

You it up for us too.

Had it cleared up.

We can't even go to Michigan now.

Said we can't go to Michigan.

Hit me and said I can't come to Michigan.

I'll be in Michigan.

I want to go to mom's spaghetti.

I. I don't. I'll be in Michigan in November though.

Mom's spaghetti look like.

Stop.

See stop.

Who's Bobs Stop. It's a forward question.

So when you did the re. I'm unable to say. Later on I think you'll fix it up.

I don't know that I want. I don't know how I feel.

You should.

I gotta see how.

Acknowledge your mistake.

That's one of your. You're usually knowledgeable.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Acknowledge your mistake.

Yeah, you.

I didn't make a mistake.

You did.

You. Yes, you. Yes.

One mistake I made.

You spoke on a person's relevancy outside of what you might have known.

Everything I said that guy was.

That guy is relevant in the space that he's relevant in, just like you're relevant in the space that you're in.

Okay. Speak for you. I am and you. Speak for you and everybody in here speak for themselves.

Got it?

Okay.

Don't speak for me, nigga.

True.

I don't feel like I need to apologize about a motherfucking thing that I said and I'm here to trickle down in some of the stuff I said, but he's a young kid and I do like him a little bit after I researched and I see some similarities in us. So I'm gonna give him mercy because I can squash him like a black eyed pee in my hand if I felt like it didn't know. Who the you talking to?

Yeah, I'm talking to you.

You're on.

That's.

Sometimes I be on Acknowledge it because we just said acknowledge your now what? Move. If you ain't with the go to the tree treehouse. I'll hit you when I get back to home base. See, you didn't move out.

You put a tree house. You the that don't care we get jumped when you get jumped.

No, but I would.

No that don't care what.

This thing said. You the scared him.

No.

This thing said y'all that don't care.

If y'all get jumped when I get you.

No get jumped with me.

No. Or how about don't do nothing I'm.

A grand with that piece you talking about?

No, but you could.

Okay, wait. It seems like y'all are unclear. And then I'm tossing right to you, Flip. It seems like y'all are unclear. Long ago I made life choice. Be cool with people or. Or. Or. Or POD and take the things that come with pardon.

Mm.

I took the red pill. I don't care. And that's what DDG needs to know. Some people when you get my age don't give a fuck about who you are, where you from, how you dress, how you smell. I don't give a fuck about none of that shit. I walked in my dad house, my little brother Anthony ran in there. So said, joe, what happened with ddg? And I said, nigga, fuck ddg. Where you think you. Cause my brother, we could talk, huh? My oldest son called me yesterday. Said, dad said, what's up, man? He said, I'm coming to work with you tomorrow to see you flame up ddg. And we laughed, and I hung up. Then I thought I might be setting a bad example. That's a horrible example. But I do like that everybody that's important to me know what time it is when it's digital warfare time, Nigga went and followed my girl. You offered the kids some snacks.

Oh, okay. You giving a little bit more information.

Okay.

And it's strange. Listen, I spoke to Adam. I called act. Cause I seen ACT do a little. Do a little Joe Budden DDG thing. And I called ACT and I said, nigga, I don't care that that's your man. Fuck that, nigga. And then ACT gave me some information about ddg, which I didn't have before, which I honestly respected. One and two, I wasn't mad at it. Can we ask what it is I wasn't mad at? Explained to me that he sees similarities in DDG and myself. I said, well, what might those be? He says, the DDG seems to be caught between music and content space. He said, he's someone much like you. That was early on the Internet, early with the vlogs. He had a run on Vine. He was able to move that audience, much like you, over to YouTube. And he got popping on YouTube early and kind of paved the way for some of the streamers that, you know today. He said, and then he stopped. With all the money that he was making, he decided to stop for whatever reason and pursue a career in music. And he's passionate about it, but he's being viewed a certain way because the people think he's corny or people Think he's immature or people think whatever they think.

So he's fighting through some things right now, and he's doing the best he can. And the relationship with Holly might not have helped because you get with this superstar girl because you might be a good dude. And he said he's got some girls before, so I gotta put some respect on his name. It's not just Ruby Rose. He said he's moved around out there. I appreciate that much. Like myself, who did that as a corny, broke nigger. So I identify. So he said he got with the girls, helped them, like, gave them the blueprint to kind of help become what some of them have became. And he said he's doing his music now, and he's just facing backlash from a fan base that's much larger than his saying, yo, you ain't shit. You didn't deserve her. Yada, yada, yada. So now he just got an uphill battle. I felt for out. I did. I did okay. So I was like, oh, man, not the worst guy. So then I watched him as he spent the next three days attempting to flame me up. And even in his flaming of not just me, but y'all too, he was kind to Melissa.

He only shot at her a little bit. He said, you a girl, so I'm not going to kill you.

Thank you.

I do appreciate that in digital warfare, that's nice. It means you may be a little immature, but you're not all the way stupid. Also, he's put some younger kids on some members of his family that are doing really well. Yeah.

J always telling me, little kid.

My little brother told me, yeah, Even in him following my girl and doing all of that Kookamany Cloudy shit, he kept the kids out of it. He kept my girl out of it. He kept my baby moms out of it. He tried, but for the most part, it was a fair. It was a fair little whatever he's doing. And the same way I don't know shit about him, he clearly don't know shit about me. So do I want to come in here and use my powers for evil and fucking just end this nigga for sending all these bots my way? And he got an emoji. They was putting some little. They was putting something. I was like, oh, look at you. You go, you go, you go. Yeah. So I want to do. I do want to have a little bit of mercy, fam. Like, he clearly is just a little immature and maybe have been tagged lame, but at 27, I was immature and tag Lame. So I ain't gonna kill the guy. What I will say is, younger people, when y'all do the whole, hey, old niggas shut up. You niggas is old.

Yada, yada, yada, yada, you're going to die. You got 10 years, you got 15 years. It's not the flex that you think it is. And, boy, if any human had that superpower, bottle it up, put it in Walmart. Only God can look at somebody and say when they life expectancy is going to be up, number one. And number two, you young niggas is dying at a much higher clip than niggas my age.

Facts.

So I don't want to come on here and, like, perpetuate that type of energy. Do I think I could beat the doggone dog shit out of DDG whenever I felt like it? Yes. Do I feel like that DDG can't talk none of that shit. He was trying to talk to me. Yes. But I think that would be a response. I think that would be irresponsible. I think that that young man needs some support right now, and who better to give it than me? Somebody that understands where he's coming from. When I asked who he was, all y'all had to do, I told. All you had to do was say, that's one of my sons. I can't go to work and kick the back end of anybody that has climbed up the Joe Budden family tree.

Joe, you gotta start.

You're a fucking rock star.

Mel, don't act that shit on.

There's nothing on. Imani, I'm very accomplished. So when the DDG fans start telling me he invented vlogging, I would give him a round of applause. There's only one problem with that, Joe.

You can't start and disparage someone and then make it seem like they were wrong for responding.

Back to you, who said that he was wrong at one point? I never. Don't put words in my mouth. Hey, give me ISO, nigga.

Move.

You're too timid for me right now. Move. Yeah, I don't need. I don't need help in this. He's not wrong for responding. I'm never saying that. I sit here and talk mad shit. I expect for people to respond normally. I don't even come in here with the decency to respond. I don't be one to have conversations with niggas. I say something and move on. I could have totally ignored this point. He on there talking about, let's cross pollinate, Nigga. I am 44. I do not have time to cross pollinate. I had to look it up. Yeah. So, yeah, I just want to shout that young man out rather than come in here and kick his back in. That's it, though. You done? You good?

You good now?

I was good before. I'm never not good at his departure. I live for shit like this. We know before ACT had that talk of me. Oh, I had it written up. I was coming here to have some fun. And he seemed like somebody had fun with pause. But one of the things that's destructive.

One of the things he said about you is he was gonna get you canceled. I think that's interesting because. Was cancel culture kind of over?

No, it kind of is.

Yeah.

I don't. I don't see people getting canceled at the clip. They were before.

Yes. I said, guess what? They learned their lesson.

My answer is yes. What's your answer?

Cancer culture is over.

I think it's over.

They get transferred over to cancel culture, to timeout culture. Just go take a time.

Some people. Some people can't be canceled. And we were talking about that before we got on the pod. I said, like, Quincy Jones. He was talking a lot of. He said a lot of things. But they can't cancel him. He was saying was having sex. He was exposing secrets like big star. And he did it with a straight face. I watched his hand. He didn't. He didn't fidget or nothing. Parkinson's didn't hit in that time. I'm not saying he has any. I'm just saying he was. He was. He was focused, content, and it came from the heart. And they can't cancel him. If we. If I was to do some like that. Yo, this person did this. This person did that.

He said Marlon Brando was on the surround.

Marlon Brando gay was on the surround. Marvin Gay.

You know, the gays be suing people.

The family said Marvin Gay was big.

Like. And that was a question I asked.

He said, double entendre.

Last name.

Huh?

I like that last name. That was a question I asked earlier. Is anybody else besides Quincy Jones uncancellable?

I don't think it's that. Quincy Jones is uncleable.

She can't cancel. Come on.

Canceling goes with relevancy.

Can't cancel Quincy.

But also legendary status.

Cancel culture worked. So now Know Better is still out here wowing. Okay.

And with the Bill Cosby's and stuff. It wasn't that he was canceled. He went to jail.

Yeah. Yeah.

I wouldn't say that he was canceled. Because the show still runs.

Yeah. He's not canceled.

He's not canceled.

Yeah.

What does cancel look like at the point. Because the only person that I know for sure we can say is at some way. I can't even say Kelly.

The guy that made the noose on his neck. Jussie Jesse.

No he just did it. He actually put out a film himself.

He ain't well that putting out a film yourself. That's actually speaks to the cancel.

Yeah.

I had to do this myself. I couldn't go nowhere. So here you go.

It was one of the one. One person who I think of automatically. It was a long time ago but Michael Richards. Was that his name.

Today?

Isaiah Washington.

Isaiah Washington.

Girl that wanted that did the inauguration and they. They canceled her.

Chrisete Michelle.

Oh, that was a cancelation.

Said a lot of people.

Okay. Some cancelations we need to take back. Yeah. Chris Michelle do nothing but a Breakfast Club interview. And.

And she wore a Basquiat skirt. You know when performed at Trump's inauguration. Yeah.

Daniel Caesar. We need to redo that one. I think he all he did was defend some white ass. He did he rep for nodules.

But he went out there and yes.

Begged for it.

Like he don't correct.

I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

My win war don't correct no op names.

I'm so sorry. You make Sometimes I Sometimes I don't.

Come here to make enemies.

Listen. Listen. Sometimes. Sometimes I don't know who that is. Sometimes y'all have to let me know who the opposite.

How y'all think this was built that.

Leaving him on the hill.

How y'all think this was built?

By making friends.

I agree with you.

The are they talking about make friends.

Outside Y'all leaving Joe on the hill by himself son.

And I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it.

He had the tip of that.

I'm fine.

You good?

He.

He good.

Yeah, I'm totally good.

He good.

Yeah, he good.

He good.

All right. Okay.

Y'all talking about any of y'all feel like y'all are cancelable? Honestly?

1,000%.

Absolutely.

They almost got me but I gotta.

Do something to be Y'all feel like.

Y'All today are cancelable. Tell me more about that.

I want to ask you a question.

Are you serious? When you finish I'm dead ass.

Of course.

Tell me Nigga talk.

Yo. If you say the wrong thing about the wrong group of people you night night.

Thousand percent.

I don't know what night.

And the pressure goodbye over. And the Pressure may be on you to get rid of one of us.

The pressure has been on me to get rid of one of your.

I'm just saying if I say something outlandish.

Y'all have not.

And I get on the phone with you and I leave here and I'm like, yo, Joe. You're like, flip, I'm riding with you. If the pressure. We talk about the prize picks and the pressure. You gotta flip back it up. Gonna have to make a decision like that. You have to. And that means flipping got canceled and it was effective.

And then it would affect the next thing you try to do. You try to go get a deal over there or go work with this company here. Nah, dog, we know what happened with abcd. We know what you did, and we can't fuck with you.

Real quick on this subject, I want to ask you a question.

If y'all can't lose your job from something that you say, then what does cancel look like?

That's true.

That's a good point.

But they're saying that we said we could. They're saying that a power could put enough pressure on you.

Yes, you have to do something.

But if you're employing yourself.

Wait a second, y'all.

That's what I just.

Wait a second. Hey, post somebody give me that time. I didn't even think that that's what they were saying to me.

I said that.

That's what he just said.

You guys just.

I'll you up. Yeah, I just came back. I'm tired.

Because this is like what my girl started telling me about how she really felt. And I was like, wait, what? Wait, now they gotta wake up Flip.

Ish.

Ice. Imani. I know Parks don't feel like this because he doesn't say anything by proxy. Y'all think that prize picks or any other one of the seven figure ad sponsors or eight figure ad sponsors could call me or Ian and tell us something that would make me get rid of one of my fucking friends?

Yes.

No, I don't think that.

Like to not work with one of my friends to keep the corporate relationship over. Green paper, bro.

If it affect the bottom line big enough. Yes, I do agree. Yes. 100.

Damn.

We don't talk about some of the stuff up there. We don't talk about some of the stuff up here because it get affected.

The carpet don't lie. Yo, yo, you know what?

You know what? I'm gonna give you more credit than that. I'll give you more credit.

You think you gonna tell them? Go to hell.

I Think. I think you've. You've established something, that you run independently on your own, that you can afford to lose one of those things and get something else back. I don't think that you would risk the relationship. I don't.

Okay, come on. I'm willing to be wrong. No, I don't think so. I agree with that. This is my question to y'all.

Now you gonna say something to go back?

Okay, go ahead.

Come on. I stand there. What the. I said, and I agree with you, but I do have a question now. What. What if.

I start laughing? Bro, I already know what you.

Come on.

What if in the situation, y'all was wrong about something? Oh, shit. Like, what if I agree with what they saying about one of y'all? Like, should I still rap for y'all?

Ta da. What the hearing lies. Go ahead, get your button on.

Go ahead, get your button on. No. Cause we all sit here and we have editing powers together, but if something creep out, like itching, his little. His little shitty be doing. If I get a call about ish Telemundo jokes, like, I mean, well, that's.

Speaking to Flip's point.

That's the point.

That's the point.

I would ride ice. Okay.

What's up, dog?

Do you feel like coming on the podcast help uncancel you?

No, I took care of that beforehand.

Okay, okay, okay.

And then some people still try it.

Do you feel like it painted you in a different light? Cause I was thinking about that, like. No, it was.

I'll tell you what. Painted me in a different light because one, when I addressed all of that shit, it wasn't. Because it wasn't a gotcha moment. It wasn't reactionary. It was just the fact that I came out and, you know, like, somebody get exposed to something came out and explained the situation.

What about you? You did so well this weekend, huh?

That's true.

How about you did so well that it sort of pushed all that because, like, they got a new ice Because.

No, cuz even before that, good dad re.

He took accountability is what he's saying. And so. And you know, optics people really like when people take accountability without there being an incentive.

There you go. There you go. Like, it wasn't like, hit the fan and then. All right, let me address. Address this.

Yeah, gotcha.

It wasn't one of them moments before. It don't come off as. As genuine when that happens.

Yeah, I think Joe and Ian will send me packing. You. Hey, come here on a Sunday.

Listen.

If it's that detrimental Those are for the. That feel like they can't make another hit. The route that y'all are choosing is for the. That got made the one slap caught lightning in the bottle and feel like they can't make it again. So I'm to hold on to all things related to this hit, bar none. Whether that be friends, family, whatever. I need this hit. This is the income I make hit time and time and time again.

No, we said if somebody affects business, Joe, if I come up here, then.

I could go make new business with the niggas. That.

But the main thing that. The main thing I would. One of us would have. If we do something like that, we would have to be removed from the main product.

What if I did? That's not what he's saying.

He's saying that's what I'm saying.

He's saying that that's up to him. That's not.

But the pressure would still apply.

But he not going to cave to the pressure because he's saying that he's going to give the way that y'all gave me X. I could go get X from somebody else based on who I am and myself.

You're losing it off the strength of someone else and not over what you're doing.

And not just that, yo. The next company go look up and see what he did.

Exactly.

And he's still there. And they saying, yo, dogs, I don't really want to work with you either, because he still got this.

Listen, they got rid of Brock Lesnar, nigga.

One thing true, two things for certain.

Yeah.

If you could provide value, somebody gonna with you. If somebody can make money off you, they gonna with you.

I'm shocked that you believe that, man. I'm hurt by that.

Listen, but everybody weighs to put on the scale.

Listen, y'all can't be canceled. Y'all ain't nobody. Come on.

That's not true.

Oh, damn. Because. Is that what it really says when you feel like you could be canceled? That. Oh, I'm like, they might end my run? That's funny to me. And I do think that shit's over with. It's over with. Yeah. And. And that's partly for me, in my mind, partly just because of where the economy stand.

No.

They'Ve learned, but are still wilding, just maybe not against them.

They not wild into the. That have the ability to cancel you.

No, I think are still wild.

Are definitely wild.

But again, they don't face any recourse or any.

They got R.J. hampton right now about to try and get him. Do you think that he gets canceled? He is on video saying whatever he said to his baby mom. She's recording while she got the kid. She went to go see him. He's on. There ain't nobody about to kill you. Whatever he's saying, I don't want to report on it because I didn't research it. But this is one of those. We want to end him. He did some dv. Remove him from the team. Get. Get him out of here. So do y'all think that happened for him? I don't.

I've never seen it happen.

I saw some of the tape. I. Again, I ain't really research it. And I don't know his history. You know what I'm saying? Like your history plays a part in that.

True.

Like if this was a one off or do you have a history of doing said things? All of those things.

I think he a new player. Like, do you mean nothing? Do you think the team is removing him is my question.

I don't see them removing him. I see them. Them suspending.

And we don't even need to go through this. You see what the Hornets did with homeboy Bridges? Go sit down to the side for a minute. Yeah.

Come back.

Brought him back. Like he said.

It's more time out now.

But listen, this is to the point I just made. He has value.

Is he a good player?

Yes.

No.

The kid Bridges is a kid. Bridges has value.

I think in order for other kid to be cancelable, you have to have.

You have to have value.

Yeah.

No. Cause they could go sit you down if you nobody. They'll get you up out of here.

But if you're nobody, it ain't worth them even doing it if it's nobody. You don't even hear about it if you're a nobody.

Yeah.

Nobody cares.

Cancel.

There's nothing to cancel.

Nothing.

Don't hear nothing about it.

It's.

It's bye.

That's it.

I think the whole cancel thing before there was a particular community. If you said anything about them, you were canceled.

Sure.

That's not the same anymore. Now that other one. Careful still both of them.

Oh yeah. And yeah.

Careful.

Anybody here got Halloween plans? I know I'm a little early.

Now you.

My wife's been asked me every day.

You are not early.

So I was thinking early.

What did I do on Halloween?

I don't know.

I want to run around the city and drop certain blocks. Awesome.

Okay.

Like giving them for free. As far as like.

It's like a turkey giveaway.

Yeah. So you're giving back.

Y'all never seen the pandemonium that happens in New York City when somebody just leave an unattended 34th Street? Yeah.

Oh, Joe, that is a terrible federal offense. That's like.

No, if it's just a.

You know what they could do? You can't say that. Yeah, look at Cory. Now you want to come out and talk? Now you want to talk?

Yo, what does that. What does that mean?

That was a terroristic threat.

Wait, what's a. Are we talking about a kitchen appliance?

Yes, yes.

Write that down.

Yo, can I get a tolerance?

Moving on.

Word. All right, moving on.

I think I need one too.

Cory left the bathroom early. He want to take a. He walked right out fixing his pants up.

This is crazy.

No, I seen that on the news a month ago.

So you thought it's a good idea.

It totally never dawned on me just how out of whack the whole city get by somebody doing it.

You can't do that. Yeah, cuz they think somebody blow something up.

This is New York. You do remember that, right?

Yeah.

A few things have happened in this city.

We're bleeping it out. Good. We're bleeping it out.

Next time.

All right, fine. I'll stick to the eggs. Toilet paper. Idiots. I'll stick today random.

Oh, man.

All that holiday shit on the way up. Fucking Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's, the birthdays, the kids birthdays, this little run, this fourth quarter run intact. And taxes.

Yeah, and taxes.

That's why I was balling. Here come these real quick. October 15th. You had to take most of what you did.

Yeah.

Oh, all right.

Are we dressing up for Halloween this year?

No, no.

Come on, you fucking party poopers.

No, sorry.

All right, I'm dressing up.

There you go. I'm gonna support you.

Let's go.

I'm gonna support you if you dress up.

Okay? So if you gonna dress up with me, come on.

Halloween. Halloween's on Thursday.

No, no, no. We'll do the Tuesday pod. We'll show up in costumes on Tuesday.

That's the 29th, man.

And so what parties start that week?

That weekend?

Yeah, we going out the prior weekend.

That is true.

Yeah.

Well, no, because unless you come back.

And stay dressed, I'm not coming here dressed.

Y'all ruined it for Ice last year.

I'm done one and done for me.

Fool me twice if you get. I'll put outfit on.

There you go.

If you do it, I'll do.

If he get dressed out, I'm not getting dressed. Come on, come on, come on.

Succumb to peer pressure.

You know that I'm. I'm going to be dressed up, too.

Yes, you do.

No, I don't.

Yes, you do, cuz you took the outfit off.

That's not peer pressure.

It was peer pressure.

Peer pressure was keep the outfit on. That's what y'all kept saying.

Leave it on.

Leave it on. No, no, no. It was leave it on. Leave it on.

You took it off because nobody wore theirs.

I took it on because we were a team and we were doing. I didn't want to wear it. Wearing it was being a part of the team. And then I walk in and nobody else did it. I'm like, oh, I subscribe to something that we always.

I will be a part of the team this year.

Come on.

We. Twice.

All right.

Y'all want it done.

That was an ill office. That was fire.

I thought you wasn't doing a costume. My Spice.

I'm not doing a costume, Joe.

Why are you being Ice Spice?

I know you're nervous.

That don't work on me no more, Joe. You can't get me, but you gotta come up with a new one.

I think you Potter of the Year.

That's a lot.

I agree.

Now you lying on me. Thank you. Yo, anytime I compliment somebody, they don't.

Believe it at all. Don't compliment me on the pod, son. Do that shit off the pod.

All right? You wear them sneakers and I want to be compliment. You look good.

Thank you, sir.

I appreciate it.

That's it.

Here we go.

We should also take the moment to salute and give a rest in peace to Sissy Hugh.

Rest in peace.

Mother. Whitney Houston. But aside from that, great musician, great vocalist, Grammy award winner. So I'm gonna send them our love.

And New Jersey legend.

And Big jump.

And New Jersey legend. Hold up now. The fuck is wrong with y'all?

Yeah, True, indeed.

Rest in peace. How do you spell this? Outstanding. All right.

Rest in peace to J. Hatch, too, for my standards.

Yes, yes.

What's who Jay Hatch ran I standard the like, beat producer community thing. Yeah, he passed away.

Rest in peace.

Wow. Rest in peace to anybody that we have lost since the last taping of this broadcast, man. Thoughts, love, Our prayers and condolences go out to your friends, family, fans and loved ones. Let a little bit of this rock for Cece Houston, man. Mike check. Mic check. Rest in peace. Tito Jackson, too. Armani ain't saying, but he was thinking it just now. Talk to. All right, all right, all right.

Speaking of the Jacksons and death. Did you just see that article that came out? Lisa Marie Presley?

Yes.

Yes.

She kept her son's dead son for two months. Two months. At the crib.

At the crib.

Wait, wait, wait. She kept her dead son at her.

Home for two months before doing anything with the body.

Did she say why she's dead?

She rest in peace.

Well, it's a book that's been.

It's a memoir.

Yeah, that's been released posthumously.

No one knows.

It's got to be in the book.

It is in the book.

Has to be.

It just.

She.

It alludes to her just being so broken hearted that he died. She just did not want to.

Said she kept the ACL55A.

I can't.

No, I swear to God.

It said that?

That's what she said.

Yes.

Nope. I'm not doing it.

You can't embark.

All right, but see now I think that's upholding again, like I spoke about, the values of love.

Yeah.

Too many times your loved one fucking leave and when they come pick up the body, you just. All right, all right. He had a good. No. Barricade the door. Keep me there for a little bit. Chill. Play spades around my chip. Y'all know I would have wanted to be around a good spade game. Play spades for the next two weeks or so before you.

What if it's the summer and you in Texas?

Or do you have a small place?

Not a big one.

Oh, put me in the basement then.

Heat rise.

Put me in the basement. You made chitlins before? Put me in the basement.

You talking about house gonna be aired.

Out like some insects. A little aroma therapy, mad plug ins.

Y'all ever smell that for real, though?

Yes.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

That ain't for the week, bro.

It stinks.

I had to go to the metal medical examiner's office one day and it's.

It to like identify somebody?

No, no, no, no. That's when the demon was born.

You're dropping something off to the medical. You good?

Yeah, I'm good.

That's when everything changed and the demon came out.

That was bad.

Okay.

I thought they'd be in little freezers.

Yeah, but once they take everything out.

Okay, do you guys care about Drake posting the picture of Solange in his story a day after or a post after or a night after being in the club and giving the rant and then cueing the DJ to play Me, Myself and I by Beyonce? Do you guys care? Do you think this is correlated? Like, I know, I know you Guys.

I know it's a pretty exhausting year.

It is.

It's almost over. Thank God. Yeah, yeah, it's almost over there.

I'm not sure that these antics will be over.

I'm tired of the antics.

Yeah.

I'm not gonna hold you. Where's the summer vibes?

Where's all that like you summer no more.

He was supposed to give us the summer vibes. We didn't get them.

He got they.

Not like us.

Oh, no.

But I'm just. I just.

You gave us a vibe for the summer. Wasn't the normal vibe. We were just a different way of doing it. Yeah.

I'm ready for the music, man. All this extra shit. I don't particularly.

They're not like.

That's my history too, you know, you say when you feel like. Feel like I really don't want to talk about certain people no more.

Drake is on that list.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

And I'm not saying that as a. Like a up way. I just don't want to. I have nothing more to give.

But you know what?

Give me tight until some music drop.

But get me tight about that is that this has all the knowledge when it comes to that. You know, being in the industry, he's kind of devious himself. He could read through all that. I'd be wanting to hear from him, but he be asking us my is surface level. I want to hear from you. Turn this off and tell me, yo, that's what I think.

Flip.

Get this off and I'll do it.

I do that in the privacy in my own home. Now, I'm very aware that coming in here and sharing your real thoughts on things and give me some points.

I can say it, get me jammed.

Up and get fired, firing at me, sending me.

You can just give him your thoughts.

And it got me unfollowed. Come on, man, you can flip your thoughts.

He'll say, em.

Yeah, well, I'll give y'all one of my thoughts. That is old, so I'll give it to you if I'm ever at the club. Well, this is why I don't go to the club with famous niggas. And the famous nigga grabbed the mic and cut the music on and give a speech, I'm walking out the club. I said that when Kanye went in there and fucked up the vibe to the good LA party. Shout out to Kanye, but nah. And now Drake going to grab the mic and start talking about real friendships and fake friends. And when you alone with just your.

Intrusion, y'all are Laughing, Y'all laughing. And it's funny. Don't get me wrong, but this be the signs of someone really experiencing some crisis that I be.

I don't.

I didn't watch that and think it was fun.

It wasn't.

I thought, yo, for a to have to get to that point, you gotta really be going through it.

Well, awesome. Oh, my God.

We've seen the telltale signs of other big stars go on that level where they started doing things that were out of the norm.

He's right.

And then down the line we start looking at and be like, they experience a different side of the industry that we couldn't understand.

And he is a TV kid. Oh, man. That's what you're saying, right?

All I'm saying is when people start doing things to that level, Britney Spears abnormal shit that we just like, why the fuck you doing? I think they really be going through a point where they don't have no other idea.

So what's the posting of the stuff, the Solange and all of that? What is that?

I don't know.

No, no, no, no, no. That's not good yet. I want him to stand on this bullshit that he's saying right now.

Why you feel it bullshit?

Because Drake's real friend, fake friend spiel is all over the comeback season. It's all over. So far gone. It's all over. Thank me later. It's all over. Like, this has been his story. So for me, it was disappointing to see that your song hasn't changed in terms of you feeling like that. It's disappointing to see that you haven't made the changes in your circle. And maybe you can't because that's again, when you just part of too many circles, when you're too huge, you're just a part of everything. And maybe you can't. But it's a shame that he still feel like that and didn't make the necessary changes to avoid that. And that's been his story for so many years.

Well, sometimes your music, that's all your music sometimes can contradict what you're actually going through. I think a lot also, I think.

It'S time to question whether he knows how to be a friend or not.

Yeah, possible too.

Okay, that's a different.

Because that's kind of the point I was making before with a You can everybody's girl. Cool. When you that nigga. Some of these men hold you higher than that and you have some relationship equity there. So, like him unfollowing me to me is very different. From him unfollowing LeBron and a LeBron tatted on him. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, don't tell me that that's not a friendship. And if you keep burning, abridged or seemingly. Seemingly, because I don't know. Then at some point you got to question the type of friend that you are.

That's all, I think very possible.

Like you unfollowed DeMar DeRozan. And I don't know what happened, but I know that these are people.

It was in the video.

You know what happened. He picked the side.

He was in the video.

Joe, we about to get hip hoppy. I'm talking about in real friendship.

Joe, wait. Joe, stop.

I don't think they were following me.

Don't unfollow me and still follow myself.

There is a difference.

Joe, are you crazy?

Out of here.

If I was in a video of somebody dissing you, you'd be upset.

You've been in mad videos with Mandy, and you've still been my friend.

But that's.

It's not different.

But you spoke to her. You gave the okay to speak to her because you engaged with her.

If you didn't, I gave you the okay to do it because I don't care. But if I saw that and was sensitive. Same with Ish and same with any of you. That's cool with people I may not be cool with. And I Y'all not enemies. Listen to me. Let me land. Because my point is. Let me forget my point the that.

Tried to bear spray you.

No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

If I was in the video, if.

Drake saw Kendrick in the street, they would talk.

I don't know.

Give me a guess.

I don't think so.

No.

Give me a guess.

No.

Called him. He called him a P. Word, bro.

Okay, cool.

Maybe not.

If you see Mandy in the street, maybe y'all talk. So you and Mandy are not out here. Mandy's not trying to end your career. Mandy's not trying to stop the Joe Button podcast from generating revenue. That's a totally different thing than this, man. That is trying to put you, for all intents and purposes, under the ground. It's a totally different thing.

So if you don't remember what I was arguing, so I'll bring you back.

So if you are DeMar DeRozan and you played in Toronto, and me and you have a, let's say, a 10 year relationship, because DeMar DeRozan was in Toronto for a long, long time.

He was right.

If you are LeBron James, and I got you tatted on me now. Now sound like a caper for Drake, but I got you tatted on me now, right? So I think that we have a certain level of relationship and a certain level of rapport.

And then you go do a video.

And now you go be in a nigga's video that is trying to end me. He might feel a certain type of way.

He's allowed to.

What if he got that relationship with him? I'm just asking.

Then you stay neutral, Ice. If you beefing with a and you my man and I love you, and you beefing with another that I is my man and I love one, I'm gonna try to mend the relationship. I'm gonna try to mediate as best as I can. If I seek that is outside of mediation, I'm gonna remove myself from that particular situation. I'm not going to be in the video. I'm not gonna go to. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna just chill the out. I'm not gonna go to ISIS Tour. And I on this that I with and I love and be on the stage.

Like, this is what I was literally saying about LeBron showing up to the pop Out. Like, I was literally saying that. And everybody was like, no, it has nothing to do with that. He plays for the Lakers, this, that the other. He was there for his wife, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, that's not the way the Drake is going to pro. It's not the way that Jake's Drake's gonna process it. And evidently it's not how he processed it.

And I don't know if any of us up here would process it the same way. I don't know that I wouldn't.

I'd be. I wouldn't. I'd be upset.

Joe, if A is throwing a concert and the lead to the concert is the fact that he has a song calling you or anything, I can't sit in that crowd. You are getting unfollowed after that. You wouldn't follow me after that. Whether. Whether you show the emotion about it. But you at that point would have to say, this person can't be for me. Not saying you have to be for the other person.

I'm agreeing with what y'all are saying. That's why I wish I remember what I was arguing.

We were saying that he unfollowed DeMar DeRozan. He unfollowed Lebron. He unfollowed certain people. Based on the premise that I'm assuming I can't speak for him. I don't know.

Oh, we were out.

About him being a real good friends.

And not real life. Yeah, got it. Y'all are saying that is real life. All right, I understand.

And also. And you were also making a statement about him not being good friends.

Yeah, like, I think that's fair, too. I think. I think all things are fair here. But you know what? Y'all say things like that. Right. And it goes back to something we was talking about earlier, which is just respect, especially respect amongst men. True. You know what? Get people to treating you and handling you the way in which you care to be treated and handled their respect level for you, or.

No, you treating and handling them in a way in a manner in which you want reciprocated.

That was my next point. That comes from the respect level. And again, I just don't think. I don't know, but I'm not sure how many of these industry friendships and relationships he had the most respect for.

Right.

But I think that every relationship is different. So I think that me and Corey can have one relationship, and I might not have the same relationship with Parks. You understand what I'm saying? So if I treat Corey to a certain standard and I treat Parks to a different standard, I might be so. So with Parks, I might be a one. With Corey, I might be 100 with Corey. I don't expect the same reciprocity from Parks that I get from Corey.

But in this particular situation, there is one action that keeps on coming up, and that is he will fuck your girl.

We're not going to unpack that again.

No, I know, I know.

But if I.

But they. It just leads into the conversation of you saying, and I didn't, Corey, girl.

Then I'm expecting a different level of loyalty from Corey than I got from Parks.

What's interesting is the person who's talking about, you know, friendship and feeling alone, etc. Etc.

Corey send you Parks a girl, then.

That'S on Corey and Parks to beef that up.

No, no, that's not what I'm saying.

I don't care.

See, your man doing something that may be dishonorable to somebody he don't really fuck with. He. He hasn't done that to you. But how is your man supposed to feel watching you be dishonorable in that man?

I mean, it depends. Every person is different. Every person is different.

Listen, if I see one of y'all being extra money, and I'm sure it's vice versa, I would hope that y'all say something to me or judge the out of me. Like, I'm gonna say something to y'all, but we don't have to do that again. Tell me about. Tell me about the Solange photo. How do y'all. How do y'all.

I think it's encrypted. I think it's something encrypted.

Next. It was next to an Aliyah photo, too.

Aaliyah photo.

The Aaliyah photo I don't even want to discuss because he's been a huge fan of Aaliyah for me. Aaliyah. For years. And he could just be posting a picture of Aaliyah. I also think it was the anniversary of something. It was the anniversary of something. I don't know when he posted that thing.

Okay.

So I don't want to focus on that. I did not research it. I do not know the Solange thing, though.

I think the Solange photo that he picked is definitely an indication. Like, I'm taking a shot at you. I just don't know for what. You get what I'm saying? Like, I know because it's a million pictures floating around the Solange. You don't go pick the picture of her being in the elevator after she just kicked you and smacked you. You know what I'm saying? To represent. Like, I just don't know what it's for. We don't necessarily.

Let's just.

Let's theorize at this point.

He's shooting at him.

Drake's whole M.O. it seems like when he wants to throw his shot or he wants to do something to get at somebody, it relates to him using a woman. He uses some type of image of a woman.

How.

Whether she's connected to you in some type of way and whatever the situation is. He's clearly saying something about Jay. What other reason do you have to use Solange for one and use that photo? That's a theory.

I'm in agreement with that.

I agree. Do y'all think it's wise?

No. And it's on Brand for how he likes to engage.

Why don't you guys think it's wise? What's. What's the consequence of this?

Because you're owing to. When you do that. That's why. And every time you bring. You mention something with somebody's family, it don't end the best for you.

Yo, you playing with the. The big.

And now you play with the big dog.

You're playing with the big dog. No matter what people think pressure. He might be under the little Franklins.

And talking whatever The Nose family.

That too. But you talking. If you are. I'm not saying if you are playing with him. You playing with him, and you playing with him about something that he's already cleared up in his household. So now you just trying to stir some more old up to try to cause some confusion. And, you know, by posting that, even if that's not the meaning behind it.

You know what it means.

Yeah, that's true. Let me ask you.

He's smart. Drake is smart.

See, and that's what I meant. Pardon? And my DDG rant when I was like, hey, I'm cool with the digital warfare, but glad to know you're not dumb enough to, like, start, including to take it a certain. To take it to a certain place.

See, y'all got me talking about Drake, and I say I want to talk about Drake.

Yeah, yeah.

But this is. But it's important because of who he's shooting at. Yeah. Like, I would have.

And his method of shooting.

I would have came in and skipped it. And. Yeah, using lawns. I would have came in and skipped it. I, too, don't want to talk about that no more. Yeah. Not after that on Follow. But he's shooting at HOV y'all are saying. HOV is the big dog. His face tell me he's thinking, what if Drake feel like he the big dog?

Yeah.

I keep thinking that we are. We are holding people in a regard that he not holding them in.

You just took.

All right, I get it. Everybody get out of there.

I don't think that loss makes Drake feel like he's not the big.

No, it's still the. He is a big dog. He is a big dog.

Okay.

Can't take that away. But you're coming off of an L. Okay, Major A major L. Okay. Whether you want to own it or.

How better to redeem myself.

I hate when you about to make me agree with Ish.

How better to redeem myself.

No, no, no, no. And broader than that.

Bigger than that. This goes to the Jack Dorsey point. This goes to the Kendrick point. This goes to all the point points that are being made. This is held urban music on his back for the last 15.

I don't give a about.

Let me finish myself.

Go ahead. Go ahead.

Yo, he's held urban music on his back for the last 15 years. You think in his head Jay Z's bigger than him. You think his head. Kendrick Lamar is better than him? That's why he took Kendrick for granted, because he's looking at this, like a little. He Mentioned Taylor Swift, he mentioned Travis, he mentioned all these other people. That what he said. What was the line?

So you speak up to every reason to why he lost?

Yes, because in his mind, he is the big dog.

And that's why he keeps losing. Because, nigga, get the fuck out your own mind. Put your ego to the side.

We talking about two.

No, we not. We talking about a nigga.

First of all.

We talking about a nigga who's smart. He's not dumb. He's not a dumb guy.

This is a dumb move.

Arrogance will make you dumb.

Cool.

Keep being arrogant. And now you being arrogant with the big dog. Fuck, if you think you a big dog today. The past 15 years, that man is battle tested with not the underling. He's battle tested with the top of the top, with other big dogs, with the other big dogs. And we've had moments where we had to decide who do we think win. Like, even with the Jay and Nas people, there's people who really feel like Jay still caught the better end of that for sure. There's no debate with this nigga Drake. You lost twice, nigga, to people who we don't even harrod as high as Jay. And this is the shit. You want to start the battle with a clip of Solange.

All right, let me, let me respond to what you and I are saying. Yo, I received that. I get that. And I also feel like he lost to Kendrick.

Okay, we all agree.

Like he lost to Pusha. Indeed. I'm not mad at if I'm him saying, okay, I'm losing these creative battles with talent. And to Itch's point, I'm a big dog. I'm not just talent. I'm now going to start shooting at a page out the Nicki Minaj books, the companies that I think are sabotaging me. So I'm shooting. I'm no longer shooting at rappers. I'm shooting at the businessmen. And for as crazy as Nikki has looked in the past doing this, when you look today at Atlanta or when you hear her speech that she accuses of building up ops to take her out when that whole building gets wiped out, Nikki's feeling pretty heroic. I felt like there was something strange going on between HOV and Drake when Meg was sending shots at Drake. And I do believe that there's probably a billion reasons for them to have some type of 10 attention. I also don't fall for the features that have done together. That means absolutely nothing.

That's his business.

I. I do hope that we get a Whole album soon. I don't think that Drake is ready for that type of pen creatively.

Hov's gonna be subbing him in 2026, man.

Hov was subbing Birdman. Yo, that my Heart in the wall cost just as much as Jerry Poem. Like, he was my Basquiat. He was like, he was. So there's been little things to tell you that there's tension there. I don't know when a whole album is coming and I don't know how crazy he goes on Drake, if he even addresses him. But that Solange, you know, God knows.

You know the UPS box will be on some of them albums. This is going to be an address.

If HOV ever raps, he's gonna respond. Okay, hey, listen.

And I think Drake has every reason to have the. Like you said, he has every reason.

You can't tell a that's worth a billion dollars at.

Yeah, absolutely.

30 something years old. That they not a big.

But if your starting point for all these things is women or some and you seeing it not pan out the best for you, you should find new tactic.

But that's the other thing that I don't love about Drake. Tactics and what he feels a slight versus not. I hate that he keep going through it with all of the niggas that are married or engaged, have been with this girl for a million years, this woman for a million years. It seemed like I can. I can't say what it seemed like because I won't. But there's something in it that.

It's weird.

It's something in that. That's like W calling me as the lyrical miracle guy, saying, yo, man, why I'd love to just be the lyrical miracle guy. And I'm like, you are the lyrical miracle guy. But you got hits. I'd love to have the hits. It's like the guy that has the world and all the money and all.

Of the girls and all the one.

Thing, bro, the only thing that you really missing and you empty inside is.

You did say that a while ago.

I'm not the first to say this, but I just think as time goes on, small things kind of becoming clearer.

That money don't matter no more. Money don't matter no more, fam. I'm 40. I'm ready to settle down, do some behind the scenes shit. And I want to play with my kids and raise a family and be in the house with my wife every day.

Yeah, guess what? You got to also change some things about yourself to obtain.

I don't know him to say that. I'm just saying, I think from the outside looking in everything in the world that the world tells us. Shoot for. He's attained it, minus one thing.

But that's a really weird way to start all your beefs.

Oh, I don't know. Yeah, no, I'm not speaking to subconscious. I'm not speaking today.

That's my goal.

Not really. If in every one of those beefs, one of my goals has been to tarnish the union with Pusha T. I was throwing shit out there in the game to make you fight with your wife. With Kendrick, I'm throwing in the game to make you fight with your wife. Like, it's kind of like, I know how bad this feels when you without that. So I want that for you. Like, it's like, hater is a little bit. And his hater is coming from him who just seem. Seems to have everything. And I think if you trying to beef with HOV, then you should do.

It silently behind the scenes, 100%.

It ain't time for an Instagram post. If that's the tree that you want to bark up right after a loss.

And for.

I don't even care. Like, that's my problem right there. Like, yo, if I'm shooting that hole, go shoot. Go shoot. I don't like this decryptive Instagram post. Leave it to y'all to interpret. Drake said something. I think he was a message you sent to academics, where he was like, we were all wrong about something. And everybody just talking. Nobody knows what they talking about. You know how niggas would know if you said something like, I don't like the fact that I do these things. I let y'all speak about it. I'm very cryptic. I don't clear nothing up. And then y'all talking. I just sit back and say, well, you're wrong. You're wrong, you're wrong. Say something. Say what you mean. It's part of the game.

That's what generation we in, though.

That's part of the game.

Yeah, but just corny now.

You don't. You don't get to complain about it.

I know we fight.

You don't get to complain about streams.

And yada, yada, yada. And while we theorizing, let me just go down a rabbit hole and put my tin fo hat on.

Oh, my favorite part. Me, T. Hat.

What if Lucha name don't come off of whatever documents he's trying to get him off?

I think the case goes drastically different.

What if knowing that you get your son hired at your competitor, which is still the craziest thing I've ever heard in life.

Yeah.

Also, why do you think that? Why do I think what?

Why do you think it's the craziest thing in the world to get your son hired at your competitor?

That's crazy. Not crazy for you to do it. It's crazy for it to happen. Is that it's flying for you to do it.

Yes. Awesome.

Now you. Control.

Should not be able to. I shouldn't. Oh. And when it happens about, say.

Okay.

It's a sign. It's a sign of something else to come. It's above my pay grade, so I can't speak to it. But in the event that. All right, I know some shit is coming, I'm gonna get my son hired at my competitor. Well, that means that I'm a tie up loose ends. And that means that something's about to look different at Universal. And I could tell you how it go when the person that gave you your deal is no longer there. Mm. So I don't really. I'm not paying attention to the streaming numbers because Drake is Drake and he's going to get all that. It's their job. All artists are dead now. I'm just going to say it. I ain't going to hold you. You niggas is doing cryptocurrency schemes. You niggas is driving Ubers and Lyfts. You niggas is working at Burger King. I'm gonna come out here and tell you that the state of the music business, podcasting, the economy, if you just look at the different facets, you can see where it's hitting that. So the labels ain't trying to. They trying to save every penny. They're not investing in none of y'all.

They not putting music out. They're not approving no budgets. Nothing is shaking for y'all. Y'all gotta go shake ass and start now. And Drake is too up for that for me to ever be able to picture that. But if the support comes out of Universal, then how you look at him will continue to. Will continue to do that.

What's this? Diminish.

Yes.

I think it's time for him to step away from music for a little.

I think he wants to.

If he can. If he can't, then I understand.

Also remember that slick comment that he put out when the Johnny Blaze shit leaked about being a slave to. Yes. Live Nation. Live Nation is hov. Mm. HOV has his foot in too many doors for you. To do the normal live nation.

That's not Jay or he got.

Yes, it is.

Okay?

It is. If it ain't. It is. If it ain't. Y'all gonna learn about these powerful people, dog. They gonna pick up the phone again.

Get it?

There's buildings that I can't call right now.

I get it. I understand.

Because the head had. Had head. Head boss is flying with somebody I ain't fly with. He ain't got to be part of nothing if he pick up the phone.

That makes sense.

Then this is what it is.

That's the news business.

That's the entertainment business.

Unfortunately, that's why you don't go be in this video over there. To make a complete circle. You ain't with that because that's my man. You my man. You don't go over there. When Joe Button call and answer, you don't answer that.

Yes. See, that's us saying that here.

I don't know about that.

Yes, it definitely.

I paint a different. I paint a real different picture today.

I don't.

No, I paint a real different picture of how y'all view him. We view him of. We view them the way that we view them in music. It's established already. There's. There's nothing to. It's nothing to debate anymore with that.

But I don't know outside of that, though.

You. We talking about Jay Z. We talking about LeBron James. We talk the people that Jack. Like, we talking about the nine figure. And it's not just that. It's circus. The power is that part.

Ten figures.

So Drake is him.

Ten figures.

Yeah, Word. So Drake. So Drake is in. We got that part. If we just talking on the podcast the he's choosing to do it with, I don't feel like they look at him like that at all.

Not at all. Not at all.

I just meant from the company standpoint, like you said, Alive Nation. HOV makes a call to Live Nation. Well, guess what? When Drake goes on tour, that's a lot of money that you. That Drake himself just go. Are we going to really just say nah? Because hold call. I. I don't know that to be true today.

Let's simplify it out. Do y'all. Do y'all think. Do y'all think that. Do y'all think today Drake can rap with a hoe?

Rap with. No.

Well, he's rapped with him, but you know what I'm saying? Like, if they were to engage.

No, I don't think so. I think it'd be pretty good it.

Would really be a battle of the olds and the youngs. I think the olds would be very heavily hove centric, and I think the youngs would be like, get this dude out of.

I'm not writing that boy off when.

You put his pen to paper. I think if Drake goes in a room and Jay Z goes in a room, and y'all know how I feel about Jay Z. I think Drake could rap with anybody in the world. I just think that Jay Z is just on an elite level of life and wit and all of those things. So my money is on Jay Z, but I don't think it's just a walk in the park for him. Boy decides that I want to go in a room.

I don't think Jay Z is engaging in the way that we've seen these other battles.

And I think that. I think that Kendrick mopping Drake up has made us forget who this kid is. Like, I think he. I think he played his hand wrong. I think he just. His arrogance just got away from him and made him approach this in a whole different way than he should have. But let's not forget what this boy can do with a pen and some pad and the paper.

Oh, no, for sure.

I'm not writing him off in the room with Jay.

That's where you lose.

Me not doing it.

What do you mean?

Yeah, I don't feel like that today. I know.

I know. We know.

Y'all know that. So I ain't got.

We know.

I will say, I think in that whole battle, the rapping just. If we take all. He to me has the best rapping song.

Drake.

Yes.

Gotcha.

So I do think he had Kendrick shit.

Yeah.

I don't think he do well with cerebral. It ain't even so much rapping.

Okay.

Like, he could probably rap with whoever he want to rap with if he put. If he put his mind and heart to it. The cerebral dude seemed to give him a hard time. I know nobody knows push your teeth, but I know him enough. He. He's a mental case. Yeah, he's. He thinks. He thinks like a psychopath.

He really do.

Like, no, he's very meticulous in real life. Eminem, another one. Very meticulous. They think different whole. Very. He's. He's 18 months ahead of what you thinking tomorrow. Some people just are. I try to be like that. I'm thinking that two years from that. Like, some. He don't seem to do well with just artsy, creative.

Like, it's not just creative creative. It's artsy creative.

And you know what? If you was gonna shoot at hoe, Because I'm with a little lyrical. Just lyrical competition shit. Just fuck it if you're going. I like that about Drake that, you know, I stood up to every test.

I do like that.

That's one of the badges I have on my. I stood up to every test. I'm there. So I like that about it. But if you're gonna shoot a hole, shoot a hole. Shoot a hole. I'm not including Solange.

Beyonce.

I'm not. I'm not. I just heard Fab the other day tell the story about how he was on the mixtape and he put a bar about Solange, and then he got a call, and they was highly upset about it. Like, yo, did you think about that? And he's like, yo, when you just rap and you don't mixtape shit, you're not thinking Beyonce is about to hear your mixtape. But once they hear it and you think about how it affects them. He went on that whole spill. I heard that story before. But if they felt like that about that, they're not taking kindly to you putting. Putting the picture of Solange up there from that night. That night is probably very. That night is probably very traumatic.

Think he know that. And so.

And humiliating.

All right, so. All right, so give what you asked for. I'm. There we go. I'm done playing. I'm done.

There we go.

Yo.

Hey, if you put cheese in the grits, it's going to be cheese in the grits. If you put the cheese in the grits, don't be surprised when cheese grits come. All right.

The day got there.

The day got in. The day got in. That's one of the best quotes of all time in the world. That's one of the best quotes of all time.

That's one of the best.

Shout out to Glow Real. I'm waiting on that classic. Waiting on that class couple days, yo. Yeah, I just think all these music is corny now. I like. I do.

I just want the music. I don't really care about all this other word. Just give me the music and get out my way.

That part. And let it be fired, please.

Yeah, that's it. Like, I missed the artists that just put out some fire shit. No antics, no bullshit, and just let us get to it.

They weren't rich.

They weren't operating at a high level of business. Like, these are unfortunate.

Tired of it.

Bark up that tree.

Yeah, she fall on.

I don't know why your advice is a forewarned.

You please not Jay.

She's not play.

I feel bad for Drake. I do, I do. Why you said I feel bad for niggas? I do.

As I said earlier.

Keep walking.

Why you feel bad?

I mean, we stand it already. Like, I mean money is great, but once everybody got money, you gotta put that to the side, dog.

Once you start getting old her, I.

Don'T think it feels good.

I was like that Will Smith quote where he was like, yo, once you've bought everything money could buy, the money don't mean no more. You're not happy. Like, what is real happiness?

Like, I'm looking at his face when all them got the oboe black hoodies on.

Like, he don't want to stand there.

That looks a mess. My. It looked like. I know what that looked like.

Y'all remember the picture of Jay Z after the Michael Jackson?

It looked like that. It looked like that. You could tell when.

You could just tell when nigga checked out.

I'm about to go do something else. Monica.

Yeah. I don't feel like he don't want to beef with people. He got tattooed on him. I know how he felt about Jay Z. I don't give a fuck what the NBA.

Yeah. I don't care what they say.

To me, that's true. I know how you feel about Jay Z. And I mean, again, I've been saying this for months. Don't nobody want listen. If that's happening with Jay Z, then I'm imagining what's going on with Wayne. I don't think that they great.

Oh, I could imagine.

I ain't. So it's like I don't think that feels good. I just don't think he feels you.

On an island by yourself.

And you.

Don'T know how to fix. And you also don't know how to fix it, cuz you're resorting to like old tactics that don't work at all.

And all the people speaking for you is just doofy. Like you got homeboy coming home sounding. Don't even get me started.

You try to fight for respect and the are you. You want the respect from. Don't respect you. It hits a little bit different. You know what I mean?

And you gotta.

And then you realize. And then to him, it's like you wasn't involved. You wasn't involved. But you realize that you really in his mind. You niggas really never fucked with me in the first place.

Yeah, I feel used.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel used. Like you never fucked with me. I thought you just was using me because I was hot.

Why the industry in general, which is why I said, when you watch him do that on stage, that don't look funny to me. That really looks like.

Whether he's doing.

This, but whether we're not talking about. It's one thing to put it in a song. It's another thing to stand on a stage.

But he's probably known that these really don't with me.

He don't look like he's feeling great. That's all.

These don't with me. They haven't with me in a while. And I think after admit after Maybe the first seven, eight, nine, 10 years, he realized, yo, you don't really fuck with your dog.

Hey, yo, real quick. You hear stories about people being in business, relationship with others, and then when the person that's up leave, how the person who is not as up fall down from grace, right? You see the different stories. But imagine, you know, this nigga who's considered up or where he's at, nobody fucking with him. I know y'all said this before, but just imagine, like, it's like all the circ, all the walls are closing in on you.

Let's see, let's say.

Let me close it out.

You the nerd dude, right?

So you've been longing to be friends with people. He's admitted that on camera. Like, yo, when I was coming up rapping, I wanted to sound like Joe Button. So now I meet Joe Button. I'm saying, yo, my, it's an honor to meet you.

Idols become rivals.

I'm cool with you, I fuck with you, whatever the case may be. So he felt like that about you? I'm sure he felt like that about a multitude of other rappers right? Now, finally, I get to meet y'all. I'm working with y'all. I'm thinking y'all my friends, and y'all not really my friends that gotta feel some sort of way. My, I've been. I've been invited to the cool table, and y'all really don't with me. Y'all look at me like an asset, and y'all using me to make hits. But then behind closed doors, y'all calling me a nerd or y'all calling me a fuckboy or y'all calling me a bunch of other things. Like, dog, y'all don't really with me.

Like, Kendrick made him look Canadian to me. I know it sounds funny, but I'm.

Not trying to understand what. You sure made him look like a foreigner.

He made him look like he is not of this culture.

Yeah.

Outsider.

And even, even when he's doing the rant, like I'm listening to his voice doing the rant versus his voice on the Johnny Blaze tape versus his voice over here. It's like, damn it. Yo, I feel bad for some of the. I feel like that just can't be their self.

Which is what, yo, even are you today. Hold, hold on. Bottom line, yo, Drake, get the fuck away from this shit. I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying. Don't continue to try to build on business. I don't know if you a good guy or a bad guy, but you sound like and seem like someone that is going to be broke by this industry in the worst ways as a person.

You mean broken by or broken by?

No, no, we're not broke money wise. And it'd be sad to see that again. We saw it with Mike, we saw with other people.

People.

I think he's headed towards that way in the industry than the other way of the Jays who figured out how to stay at the top. Also play the game the right way and not have to have.

Can we compare it to Mike? I don't, I don't think his constituents turned on him.

I see it 100%. The industry turned against him 100%.

But he died along by choice. No.

How do we know?

No, no, no, no, no. We don't know that.

No.

How do we know that?

We don't know that.

So. Okay, I get what you're saying. What I'm saying is that I don't. I didn't see anybody saying they don't with Michael Jackson, but Oprah and them still with them. People that.

No, no, no. If you do enough research you will find out that he kept himself a secluse at a certain point because he couldn't trust anyone.

But that's himself too. Okay.

Because of the things.

See, it wasn't the Internet generation. So we used to get all that information from the news and people. So when reporting start coming out about him and the kids and all that I'm sure was turning their back on them.

Okay. Okay.

You know what I'm saying? I'm sure was turning their back on them. So I got it. Yeah.

That's the other reason. That's the. I. I agree with everything you're saying about dude. Fulfillment is just priceless.

Yep.

And we think it come from looking from other people. So many different things.

Looking from other. Looking far from other people.

You feel bad for real.

I do, yeah.

You feel bad?

No.

You feel bad or is that.

I've had, I've had these feelings about homeboy since way before he even made that mean post. That's why I feel like that don't have the fulfillment. You can't even make that post about that are fulfilled.

Does it feel bad or. I, I, I saw this coming. Cuz you, you, you, you can see a lot of things. So is it like I feel bad or I saw this coming and I.

Didn'T see this coming. Granted, what goes up must come down. But I didn't, I didn't, I didn't see this, I didn't see this coming.

Okay.

I want people to feel good about themselves. I want people to, you know, especially when you in entertainment to where it's like, you know, they say three weeks in real life is an hour on the Internet. Like I feel like that about entertainment. Like if you 40 in entertainment years, then you might be 70, 75 years old. Just in what you've seen, what you've experienced, what you've accomplished, what you've done, what you've made versus what you like.

But without the salacious shit, can't you understand? Like without the salacious attached to it, you have shown respect. I remember when he sent you a DM and you didn't want to read it on air. You're like, I'm not gonna read this part. I'm not gonna read this part. So you had love. And I remember some of the stuff when he was acting a certain way, I could see it in your body language that you was like, are you supposed to be cool or we cool or you doing this to me? That's my opinion. I'm not saying that's how you felt. I'm just saying my observation. So can you understand when a nigga fuck with somebody and they don't really fuck with him? I'm saying putting yourself in that position where you like, yo, I show this nigga love, yo, he cool. And then you going on the Internet acting like you don't really fuck with me, if you understand what I mean.

They both have that argument though, huh? They can both have that argument.

He can say Joe ain't really fuck with him.

He can say he's experienced things where he expected him, him to hold him to a certain respect and he didn't. So they can both have that argument.

I came at the later end. I didn't see that when I was here. He was showing that love to me when I saw it initially.

But you know, instances can be. But when we start looking at his experience, you start the Kanye, all of it. You start watching people get into this industry, reach a certain point, and then certain things just happen where you feel like, yo, something. Something's going to go either really great here or it's going to go really bad. And not talking about the business, just you as a person, it's starting to look like that.

And this is the last word for me, Joe. I don't want to drag this on. Sometimes I feel like I'm out of tune. Because when somebody's spiraling out of control, if I fuck with them and I stood on this hill, I don't believe in joining the public against them. Right. That's not me. I'll go down with them with the ship going down. And that may be me being blinded. So sometimes when I hear these things, it looks like when these guys are speaking about things, it's like you accept society or you understand when you fuck up, nigga, we ain't fucking with you no more. If you do some fucked up shit, I'm distancing myself. It seems like people are more comfortable with taking that route instead of the loyal route. Or maybe not be loyal.

When you've been the guy for 15 plus, like you said, and you've had everyone champion your music, and in the moments where we thought people were going to shit on you, people still showed up. And now there's a moment where it seems like everyone is on the other side of the fence. Not just the general listener, but also the industry. That does a lot to your brain to figure out, what do I do at this point?

Got it.

How do I just. How do I even create now? Because I don't even know how I can create on some normal shit. And on top of that, I got to fight with the big wigs. As an artist, he's still just like, don't get me wrong, he is business. But to them, he's still just an artist. You can't play with us.

Yeah, that's true.

So we will. Don't get me wrong, Michael was the top of the top. But we will show you, nigga, that you just an artist. Even with the control that he had, nigga Mike owned half of Niggas Publishing.

True.

And because we want that asset back, nigga, we'll do whatever we can do.

To get rid of you.

Drake is in the same position in my brain.

I agree.

We feel like you are at a point where either you getting too powerful or you control too much. And it's time to shut this shit down. We'll lose 400 million today so that down the line, we can control 2 billion.

Got it?

That's what it seems like to me.

Yeah, I agree with you 100%.

Yep.

That's. That's exactly what it looks like. Like I'm trying to make a move off to be a boss over here. And they saying you are a threat. No, sir, I don't think.

I don't even think they let this go that far if they ain't feel a certain type of way about what he's doing.

Listen, as wild as 2024 has been, if you want my prediction, I anticipate 2024. Strap up. 10xing it.

Strap up.

It's gonna be a good season.

I feel like I've said that before. The Drake, the whole salon shit is more of the same for me. Falls in the bunch of. Oh, y'all getting ready to turn it up, up.

Yeah.

And some of y'all trust yourselves too much. Got trust issues with everybody but themselves.

Out here betting on themselves.

That's the problem.

You said they trust they self too much.

You trust yourself too much. Trust themselves enough to believe that when they want to crash out, it's the right decision. Yo, I want to crash out right now. And I trust myself to do that.

To come out. To come out of it.

You come out onscape. I tried trust myself enough to believe that I'm the king of the castle and ain't nobody fucking with me. Get the fuck out of my way. I'm smelling my shit. My shit smell good.

But you was always trusting myself. But that was instilled in us, though, in life.

That's not true. That shit worked for you a couple times.

What do you mean?

I start to believe it.

That's not true.

No. The same way I might not trust one of y'all is the same way I might not trust myself. I've been with myself enough times to see me be chaotic, in enough situations to be rebellious, to make the wrong decision, to snuff a. You shouldn't have snuffed to stalk the girl. You shouldn't have stolen. I've seen me in all my worst moments. So I might need to run this by people I trust.

And that's right.

But what happens when you don't trust nobody?

No, not just that.

When they stuck in this moment.

Well, no, you've been in these moments, and it worked out for you. It ain't really be as bad as you thought it. So now you sitting Here, like, hey, I could count on myself because it.

Works out for you, then you're not as humble as you need to be. And there's two people on Earth, the people that are humble and the people that are about to be. So if you feel like that, then you don't know that it only take one. It only take one. It's Pat Mahomes versus the field. It's Mike Jordan versus the field. It's LeBron versus. It only take one instance for all of that shit to come crumbling down. We watch it, unfortunately, and I don't want to.

We not just watching it with him, we watching it with.

Because I love Drake's music. Mad old music, maybe not the new, but it's played too much of a instrumental part in my 20s, in my 30s. So it's like. And that. Come on, it'd be fire. It's like, where is him? I hate to see people not talking about him now, but just come in this industry and seemingly lose themselves. Yeah, that is the worst. That's the worst loss you could take, is losing you. And that's for you to decide who you are, who you want to be, who you will be, who you was. That's on y'all.

That might be part of the trick of the industry convincing us that they lost themselves.

It puts you in such a great position that you end up losing yourself. We see a lot of people go mad with great power, Drake, in spite.

Of me rooting for Kendrick. Nigga, I don't wish you any ill, and I do hope that you feel better if you are feeling down. Same to ddg. Same to anybody else who might think I'm on some oppy shit on just being mature. I don't want this shit to get the better of none of y'all. As someone. I'm saying that as someone has gotten the better off, honestly. Yeah. In the past, not now. I beat that shit. I beat my dad demons. I forgot. I copped a Rory. I forgot. Oh, my God. They sent me some papers. Oh.

You copped it.

Yeah, I got it.

You're a bird.

Yo, what is that?

Said he waited till he get cold.

Nobody saw yet.

It's not. It's not a big fuss.

Okay.

Approved, like, approved like that. It wasn't quick like a thing.

You remember back in the days when you used to let niggas use the Escalade to go to the store? Like, yo, I'll be right back.

We'll go to see.

Remember those times, right?

You want to use a Rari Stab Me in my bag, said I stole from him and start his podcast. Oh, man. You want me to continue?

You want to use a rari?

Yo, I could read this. Hey, yo, dog, the way I can.

Read this dumb mind, bro.

I promise.

That's funny. Yo, how was y'all? How was everybody's weekend? I'm real happy that Flip came back. I kind of saw what your trip was like. But how was everybody's weekend?

I ain't gonna hold you, Flip.

Ice hit me.

Okay, I ain't gonna hold you, Flip. I was close, bro. Like you back now, so you good, but about to replace you. I'm about to replace you, dog.

Wait, show the camera.

Show the camera. Camera.

That's supposed to be J1.

Oh, sh.

That's surf.

Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

Free the Wave.

I'm so sorry.

I saw him. Now. Why do you have to always be a cracker?

You can't say cracker. We just had that.

You can call somebody black or cracker.

Okay, I guess.

What if you have.

I guess.

What side you talking to?

Oreo put out the vanilla chocolate choice, right?

The double st.

Double stuff Oreo put out of that. Sir, Free to wave. Ice you a piece of. Why would you have that made?

No, he not a piece of.

Why would you have that made before we get one made of.

Of.

Oh, we got one to flip.

Yeah, we got one to flip.

What you saying to move it and switch it out?

I think that's fly. That's all surf is, my man. I got a lot of love for s. I did a lot of work with him. And I think that if anybody's going to come here and, you know, I think surf is more than qualified, you know, I support it, man. I support it.

Yeah, Flip, whatever you got planned, I'm planning to stop it.

No, you're not.

I'm telling you.

You know, I was thinking on the plane when you cracked that little joke that, yo, you. You stopped Holly from coming up. Flip. The network. That played in my head on the plane.

I ended that shit.

I said. No, you didn't. No, you didn't.

I had enough of that.

No, you didn't.

It ain't gonna be too much of picking Holly up while I'm home. Horny. Come on. Horny as. This nigga talking about content. Look.

Oh, my face is right here, but.

I'm not eating it.

I didn't do that.

You so soft.

What the.

Hey. Holly picked up some extra days, too.

Yeah, she back. She back outside. Yeah, yeah. Holly, welcome. Welcome back.

Honestly, tell me the truth. Honestly, as friends, how I'mma not fight with my girlfriend?

Like, just in general.

The girls is picking up extra nights.

How many more extra days that mean.

A Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday run might happen while she trying to FaceTime?

I'm busy.

Are you having a phone like this or like this? Flash, why you getting dressed?

Hey, looking at the ceiling? Wait, the ceiling in your eyes. Put your on. You good? He be like, yo.

Oh, your hair. Yeah, you know, you can tell. You can tell my man. Yo, you stop. Stop. Cuz, when you get in trouble, we ain't helping you. You've been shooting all day.

I have.

And you're not shooting with a tutu. This.

And I want to apologize to my girl and the people that know her that listen to this podcast.

What?

Cause I love her more than I say on here. And I do enjoy kicking her back in like it is. It's fun.

That's a nice dynamic.

You can tell you love your girl.

Of course. Yeah. But sometimes your girl need to hear it. When you go on these big broadcasts and kick their back in for months and months at a time, like, sometimes it can get the better of them, especially if they're telling you they real thoughts and you start lying.

That little talk did something for you, fam.

No, she sent me straight. She sent me straight. She pulled out a card. Hey, you're using the money to control me. I was like, oh, that's bad.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, you be doing, like, if you was fussing the whole month. How I'm going. Turn around.

Don't feel comfortable doing it.

Pick your boy. Oh, you still got a mouth.

Can't spell.

Stop. And that's not right.

No, it's not.

And I disagree with that. I don't think that should do that.

Do what?

I think people should do that.

Use money to control the significant other.

Yes. I think that's horrible.

Financial voice.

Oh, wait. What you said? ISO ML. ISO ML. You got it.

Y.

Give it up, man. What you say?

It's called financial abuse.

What does that mean?

Everything.

Bas. Exactly what you just said. Using finances to control somebody.

Control part coming.

Where's the abuse part? Where we dead ass? Are we dead ass?

Where's the control?

Are you dead ass first?

Yes.

Nah.

All right, y'all. Take it away. Go ahead.

No, where's the. Where's the. No, where's the control part? Where does that come in? Like, I have the money. Not saying me. I have the money. You want to get something done or you want.

You Want some of the money? You want some?

The money is mine. I work hard for it.

My ass out there.

Yes.

I love you, baby.

And usually how we were raised is that our parents only reward. Reward us when we do good.

So you're her daddy?

No.

Yes.

Yeah, he's her daddy, but not me. You expect to do something bad and still get paper.

That's what I'm saying. Or if you know this is where.

The money coming from, you should kind of act like you know this.

Act right.

You should act right. Right, Right.

You should act right.

Make big freeze.

Get information.

Everybody didn't escape a cult. You know what I'm saying?

All right, let's try it this way. Let's try it this way. Because fair. Yeah. I want to be open to what you're saying. But when you stand in front of the atm, don't you gotta press in a cold enter and enter, right. To get something out. If you just stand there and fuss.

You gotta act right at the atm.

Right.

You gotta act right.

Get in line.

Because there's two options.

You can do what's you can do.

Make a deposit and then withdraw. So if you only come in there.

To withdraw, then you gotta deposit other places.

What was your response?

Like, financial abuse is not fire?

No, not usually, no. But it's definitely not happening in this particular case.

Well, I'm kidding. Even if she really feels like that, I'm joking around.

Don't dismiss her feelings.

Well, I'm not. That's what I'm saying. Even if I acknowledge that. Oh, all right. That could be a real thing.

So when you heard that, how did you respond?

I wanna be financially abused.

Wait, you wanna be controlled?

Hurt me, baby, hurt me. Yeah, Talk about what you want, do what you want. And can I have 30 bands real quick? Like what? You be shocked what I'll do for dirty bands? Dance. I wait, you mean I have to not have this one talk that's annoying you?

That's it.

And I get 30?

I forgot how to talk.

I cut my tongue out right now. I would love to be financially abused.

Don't sound the worst.

What would you do?

I calling my girl. Oh, man, I'm calling my girl. I'm snitching on myself early before I get smart.

Smart, smart.

That's ahead of smart tactic.

Cory, just whisper.

Don't do it. I got you, Cory, my man.

That's how you get ahead of it.

I love Cory.

I got him. I got to do it. Too much heat. Too much heat out there nowadays.

Hello.

Oh, she Got the feed too. She. Oh, you outside, huh?

I'm eating with my mom.

Oh, you always got a mom, don't you? You always that. Hello.

She rushing you to get to it.

Yeah, it's kind of loud too, that financial abuse.

Oh, she's serious. Look at what you did to her.

I heard that little comment. I heard that little comment. I wonder what you said on this damn box.

She listened to live. Hey, yo, Tana.

Yeah, Take away the link now. That's the thing. I did say a lot. I did say a lot. And then Melissa. And then Melissa said, well, that is financial abuse. And I never heard that term before.

Of course you wouldn't.

And I told him that I feel for you and you'd be right about some shit. But once Mel said that, I told. This is my question to you. Like, fine, it's bad financial abuse, then the service. The service. All right, baby. I love you. I love you so much, girl. You might be getting abused. Yeah, I think so. I think so. I love you so much.

You always got a different understanding.

I love you too.

Send that over, though.

Oh, allow.

You know what that go with allowance.

Allow me to spend the money at my allowance.

Oh. Oh, all right. The service. I do. Gotta get back to work. I love you so much. Bye. Bye. Bye.

Oh, you in trouble. Trouble.

Yeah.

Yeah, he played it off. It was.

It's okay. It's gonna be a different combo later.

Yeah, the kitchen was hot. He knew all that he was talking about earlier was real. That was going on.

Well, listen, if that's financial abuse, punch me in the eye.

Know Joe more than me, but what?

Joe probably said something crazy and then he. He probably cleaned up a little.

Clean up.

Mad crazy.

Exactly. So that's why Joe, during the argument.

I'd say mad crazy.

That's why he called. He said crazy yesterday. I don't give a look at the stealing. Look, look, you know how got hit? He's so crazy now. You gotta. He thought about it. You gotta clean it up.

So you looking for a relationship without financial abuse and then we move on?

Preferably, yes.

Sorry. So you're looking for a bear. A bear that tricks. Why would you say that? She looking for a bear. That's considerate. Kind. Spends when he wants. Doesn't hold the money over yet.

Six foot plus.

Yeah.

I ain't make all this money to not hold it over to my head.

You can't do that, dog. You can't do that. Laugh if y'all want.

Y'all know.

Laugh if you want.

Got to Be quicker today. Say it again.

Say it again. Say it again. You want this? Say it again. What you mean, say it again? You be out in the street. Say it again.

Start. All right, all right. N. Stop playing around. How y'all girl know that? Y'all mad at them if y'all don't do that.

Joe, what type of.

Hey, yo, communication? I don't know.

That is communic, Joe.

Non verbal.

I need.

Hey, Joe.

Joe will call his girl. Hey, yo, Go outside. Go outside on the driveway and tell me if you see something out there.

Car missing.

Damn, they got you.

I'm joking around.

Please refer to the tag, but do that, though. Take their calls back.

Me and my girl had to talk about that. She asked me. She's like, yo, if you.

You wouldn't do that though, Ice, right?

I told. It depends.

Depends on what?

Depends on the violation.

Depends on what you tweeted. Oh, yeah, it depends. All girls keep trying to tweet. All right, why you. Why you tweeting?

Depending on how it depend on what happened.

You didn't give. You didn't give me. No, it's gave away that Richie girl. Take 50 of these, put these in your family, provide for your other kids and like that. Go ahead. Let it go down to your family. He's talking legacies, huh?

I thought I was trying to ask y'all about the shows y'all went through. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, man, I can.

I can't take nothing back.

Well, Sunday we went to the. I went to the Maxwell show. Mel was there. Eve was supposed to come.

Yeah, I got.

I got.

You didn't go to Maxwell?

No, I was.

He knew better.

I was.

I was scared to death.

It was for lovers only.

Scared to speak. But speak. Cuz you scared.

No, I went because it was Rachel's birthday, so I went to go birthday.

Oh, yeah.

I flaked on mad this week.

Yeah, you flaked on.

So I thought at that moment I would go.

Oh, they got the spot in Brooklyn. Yeah.

So I tried to rush over to the joint, but traffic was bad.

Well, how was it.

Was Maxwell. So October London opened up. Phenomenal.

Shout Out. October London.

Super dope fuzzy. What up?

Then Jasmine Sullivan came on after October lunch, she tore it down. She smoked the building.

So mad about missing her.

And then you. Jasmine went crazy. And then Maxwell came on. Anybody's ever seen Maxwell? He went crazy. Stage show was phenomenal. I think it was a little under the weather.

Who, Maxwell?

Yeah.

Like I think they don't even matter. The crowd Gonna sing these songs.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that was dope. Your mother bullied me a little bit.

Bullied you? Yeah. What happened?

I'm upstairs. She's like, I heard you here. So I text her. I'm like, yeah, what section are you in? She was in my section.

Oh, yeah. Good season.

So I go down, talk to her. So I'm like, turn around. Turn around. You not here. You not here. I'm like, turn around. So she turns around. She comes over. So she talking to me, bullying me. Niggas taking pictures of me. Your mother.

Mom's a celebrity, and you're a celebrity. Your mother is a celebrity. Both of y'all are celebrities.

So people taking pictures of me and your mother together, they asking her for a phone number. Like, your mother and your mother's Newark's finest.

Somehow, like, I don't really. She be in the hood. Hood.

Like, yo, me and Joanne used to be speaking. Guess who I see walking down Central Avenue? Like, yo, she run the block.

You know what I'm saying?

But no. So I talked to your mother for a while. Then she's like, you see Melissa update there? And I was like, she right there.

She was like, right where?

So I called Mel. I'm like, yo, turn to the right. So Mel turns. She started waving. Mel hits these with the Hillary Clinton hand.

I swear.

I swear to God. No cup. You gotta cup the thumb.

Yo, she hit him with.

Wait, wait.

I thought you were saying she hit fans with that.

She hit no, me like that.

Oh, shit.

I'm like your fan.

I was being playful.

Fix your hand.

I was being playful. I was being playful.

I was like, oh, boy.

So now I've been wanting to jump in the middle of your story to tell y'all how much of a bird Mel is. Respectfully. Of course.

Respectfully.

Let's meet the Mel mad early in the morning.

Don't rap rat. Don't rat.

Don't tell a rat.

Two days ago, this.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

You jumping in front of the lead. We speak in the morning. I ain't gonna blow it all the way up.

It's okay, because you did call yourself a vault a couple of days before that, so.

Well, not with everything.

Only with that.

Only with important stuff. And, yeah, she fell for that. But, I mean, everybody Mel calls me, she says, yo, man, got an invite to Yami Be serenaded at the October London show tonight.

Hold on one second. You're.

You're.

You're really bearing in the lead. Who told me?

October London.

No, right.

October London people.

Well, yeah, that would be Snoop. Snoopy Snoop Dogg the dog.

Father.

Daisy.

No.

Bow wow wow.

Yippee.

Yo.

Okay, Charlie Brown. Mm. So you mean Snoop Dogg. See, I left that part out. Snoop Dogg is the one that told you that there was an opportunity to be serenaded at the October London show.

He asked me if I would allow for that to happen.

Because October London is signed to Death Row.

Yes.

Which is Snoop.

Yes, yes.

And Mel is like, you know what, man? I just don't know. With the way I've been sleeping lately. I've got a little crick in my neck and my back isn't feeling the greatest. I don't know what the way. I just, you know, I don't want to gain, like, the reputation of being that girl that just goes to the shows and the hot R and B guy that all the girls want is just serenading and singing too. So, I mean, I did that for lucky Day, I think for October London, I'm going to take a little break because I been on a tear recently. I've been on a tear, absolute tear recently. What do you think? And I was like, nah, yeah, that ass, that. That sounds smart. Like you don't want to just be the girl on stage at every show. Like, that's corny. A little bit. Sure enough, around 7:00, around 7, 8:00, my mom texts Melissa, Melissa Ford is on stage with October London, sends me a picture.

My mom texts me the same.

Your mom's too.

My homeboy that was there sent me a video.

So clearly I'd say Melissa Ford changed her mind. From the morning when we spoke, you.

Don'T think that that request coming down the pipeline was a request to not be ignored?

I wasn't thinking you should ignore it. I was thinking you should say how you felt. So if you didn't feel like doing.

That, you know, honestly, I really actually liked how it was done. Done.

Got it.

I liked how it was done. So. And I was the little parent. I was like, oh, is it going to be the stool situation? No, they had. It looked like a cigar lounge. And so there was a couch there. And so I was like, oh, okay, so I'm just gonna sit on the couch. Yeah, a couch on the stage.

All right.

Yeah.

And then, you know, his bass player's right there and I'm smoking a cigar and drinking a drink and I liked it. It was cute. And October was amazing.

Okay.

Yeah, that's what's up.

Well, I'm sure you were just as amazing. Shout out To October, London, Jasmine Sullivan.

Jasmine Sullivan was amazing. And you know what? Maxwell was talking a lot about Embria, you know, thank you for sticking with me, like the fans. Embria is literally, like, one of my favorite Maxwell albums.

Hey, when don't know their best slaps.

I love that album.

That might be the best album.

I wouldn't be thanking nobody for sticking through me while I made some of my best heat.

Yeah.

But I get what he's saying, though, because that is.

He's saying they've been a long around since Embria.

Oh, that ain't what I take that as.

No, he was saying, like, yo, for. For those of you that know this, you know what I'm saying? Like, thank you for riding with me this long.

No, no, no, no, no. It was about Embria being like.

He.

He received a lot of criticism for that album when it first came out because people were just like. It was such a far cry from his debut album. It was more cerebral. And then it's one of those albums that, like, it stands the test of time and it just gets better and better and better. I loved it from the second I heard.

It was different.

I like knowing that we have a guy of that legacy.

Yes.

Performing and then having a guy who's now just coming up super dope, being able to open up for him. I think that's fire.

Yes. And backstage there was like, you know, Maxwell was just so grateful that.

Wait, you was backstage? Hold on.

Yeah.

Why you can't.

She was a performer.

Why you can't never just go to a show like Safari?

Yeah.

Like, why are you backstage mingling, rubbing your little ashy elbow on this?

I mean, I'm saying hi to folks.

Yeah, but October London was in Maxwell's room.

No, you was in his room. He was in. He was in his own room. And then we all walk down the hallway to go see Maxwell. And I went to go see Maxwell's manager, John D. Jill Scott. John D. Who I've known for a really long time as well, so.

And a long walk.

And a long walk. Yeah, it was. It stopped the hate campaign. That's hate.

It. Was it. You a hot ass?

I mean, I'm outside. I'm outside. Outside.

Nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, but it was fun. It was fun. It was great. Great.

Yeah. I sent my mom to that concert. I didn't go. Then before that, Ice invited me to the Wale concert at Irving Plaza that I really wanted to go to. He did Pretty Girls, My nigga Yo.

He told me. He was like, yo, I had New York Circle when I first had the tour list. I'm doing records that I don't even normally do. He had three. You know how they do the set list? Pages. He had three pages.

Oh, wow.

He went through everything. He's like, I'm doing it Dolo. No guests. I just want to show. He's like, I wish all my. All my biggest haters could be in the building. Just the people that's always got something to say. I just want you to see. I got these records. And he smoked that, bro.

Yeah.

Got Wale up a little bit.

They do a lot.

They do, they do. Wale is that.

And on stage, he still looks like that to me. I know that people may not view him that way, but he looked like that to me. And if you forgot, he can remind you real quick.

He did even. Even. No, normally. So normally at his shows, usually close out with no hands.

Pause. Big pause.

That was crazy.

That was wild.

Closing out the show with no hands.

That was wild.

It's all right. I know what you meant. You meant the song. Yes, the record.

So Eddie was like, yo, because that's a feature. So he was like, people was coming. Oh, well, look, your closeout song ain't even your record. I got one of them, too. And he's like, yo, normally I close with this. This time he closed with Lotus Flower Bomb. That place went upside down. Every single. The hook, the ad look like salute.

And while probably great show, largely responsible for never wearing Lotus Flower Bomb anymore. And shout out to you hoes that didn't even know that was a scent.

That was funny.

They were just saying, oh, what's that? What? Where's the.

I love Lotus?

Lotus on 14th Street. That was my favorite club. What a hack for a hook to name that scent. And just that Wale War.

A lot of POD fans in the building. A lot of love.

They.

They sent their love to the pod.

So remember Wale did that little fake relationship for a couple months. He was trying.

Boy with a fake relationship.

With who?

With that girl.

I remember.

It's a cute girl. That's my man. So I ain't gonna bring it up if we forgot. Oh, and I followed that girl Freddie Gibbs running around with. Sorry, sorry. I'm a sucker for some bald bitches and tattoo. That's my man. I ain't gonna do nothing. But I wanna. I wanna look, I mean, it wasn't important and we can move on.

No, I got you.

I'm the only one to follow that girl.

I don't know who you.

Which one you talking about? The porn star one.

Let's see, let's see. Let's see really quick. A Kanye divorce. It's rumored that Kanye is looking for a divorce. I haven't spoken to Kanye or the girl he's divorcing, so I don't know if this is true or not true.

I'm not sure that anybody spoke to her.

Yeah, I ain't sure if she talk.

She might not salute.

Should have just went on out there to Japan.

Yeah, yeah, Konishi, why you would have been out.

Out there?

Yeah. One day. I'm not. I'm not so mad. I'll go out there whenever the time is called for. I don't. I don't press the issue, man. We'll get together.

Well, hate to see him break up, man.

Thoughts and prayers, right, man?

Thoughts and prayers.

It's getting cold. That girl wanted to put some clothes on.

Oh, enough of this.

It's get. It's winter.

October. Nipples out.

Nipples out.

I want coat.

Even la get a little chilly. I want a coat.

Not wearing this Saran Wrap no more. I'm out of here.

The best. The best dress she got. The Jamaican.

She can't wait to go shopping.

She can't wait to get dressed.

Yeah, get some jeans.

Give me a roll.

Let me get a little corduroy.

Let me get a little sweater.

Something, yo, crazy.

A bra.

Something she might have brought us for a little while.

Niggas told me that Rainbow was still in action. Brought me back to my childhood. I had no idea.

Yeah, the store, there's a bunch of them still in the Bronx.

Why is that a part of your childhood?

Because Rainbow was in Newport Mall. So when I was 15, 16, 17 and 18, I would go to Newport Mall.

Hanging outside that Rainbow.

Catch them coming right out that rainbow. Or if I was with something that needed a quick pair. Era. Then you would take them to Rainbow.

Never.

Burberry trick.

Spurge of Rainbow.

There we go. So you tricked me. You made me snitch on myself and you knew the answer.

No, I mean, you was tricking at 15.

I don't consider that tricking. If she need a pair of the two dollar shits that comes $11 back in 15, yo. I don't know.

Tricking. Tricking. No matter the price that I tricked, though.

Yeah.

Ain't nothing wrong with it, man.

Tricking.

Until that tax time come around and we got a slow dance. The person you tricking on don't have no clue about tax time, boy. Pretty girl.

My damn n Was ready to revisit that W2 conversation.

That's the thing I want.

Not me.

Not I.

No, no, no.

I'm talking about putting a girl on one.

Yeah, well, I'm talking about that combo.

I heard that.

Put your girl on W2.

Yes, yes, yes.

No, you shouldn't.

So the allowance is a salary.

I don't think you should.

1099.

I don't think you should do none of that stuff.

No, you should. 10.99 you.

Thanks.

It's a little fraudy.

I give it out of love.

It's my assistant.

Wait, what did he just say?

Was she assistant?

Wait, no, no, no, no. Boy, look at you. About to be messy. Did you just say that your assistant?

Yeah.

What are her duties?

Blow jobs. That's rude. You can't.

No, no, that's crazy.

Hey, hey, you get you. You know.

Oh, you're right.

That's not. That's a helpful case.

You're right, you're right. Get out of there.

Drawing up a application.

I had an argument with the. In the dealership. These ain't giving W2s.

Hold on. Is it a dealership?

It's something like that.

What you did in there?

No, I just.

I'mma you up, yo, and listen, I just want you to know, I catch all this little.

I'mma you up.

I'mma you up.

Sorry, go ahead, Flip.

You were saying?

Oh, what are you doing? What does it take? What does it take for that job? Girl, shut up. Simmer down. Anyway, what y'all saying?

No, I said I had an argument in a dealership about W2S.

Oh, when you bought a car?

What dealership?

Shoes at.

It doesn't matter.

It does.

Nigga. Went copped the Lincoln.

I did.

Copped the Lincoln on them.

For real. I cop something cheap. I'm just saying. It doesn't matter what I cop.

Nabby.

No, no.

Oh, you got a new car.

It doesn't matter what I cop. Listen, at the same time, imagine Flip driving. I would. I would. I would.

Yo, that would be great.

You only five, six you. But then, like, yo, every. Every company has W2s. I said, they don't give that up. You. I was yelling in that. But we figured it out.

I got my homie. Never mind that.

You did.

We figured it out.

I was about to say.

You don't give out W2s. Right? That's what they were saying.