Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. This is the thing is no one's happy with just being a little successful. You get a little successful, and then they want to get more.

Is that everyone, though? I don't know.

Is it you, Bridget?

I'm a little successful.

That's it.

And I'm happy.

Yeah. I don't know. You got to find why you're doing it. You don't want to just be on a hamster wheel.

Well, I think it's easy to get lost in chasing more. I'm an addict. So I try to stay away from analytics and all that stuff because I can become hyper-focused and obsessed with them. And one of the reasons that after I did... Who was it? I was opening for Landa, and we would go out and just talk to the people after the show. And it was They were like, Oh, my gosh, I love Walkin' Welcome. I love Domster 5. And it was like such a good reminder that you get chasing numbers, and it was like, Oh, no, these are not just numbers. They're people, unless you're buying bots. But I think it can be easy to just get on that hamster wheel and start being like, We need more. We need more downloads. We need more. More and more, and more, and then you forget. And I never want to take the audience we have for granted. They're They're amazing. Some of these people have been with me for forever.

That's the key to it all, right? It's always have... I mean, it sounds so corny because it's a new wellness way of looking at things. Have gratitude. Have some gratitude. But gratitude is very important. It's really important to be thankful for what you have.

Yeah. It was one of the key things in getting sober. I think when I've dealt with anxiety, depression, other things in my life, gratitude is... It is powerful mechanism for shifting your perspective because you can get into that feeling of not being enough, not having enough, not it never being enough.

Brian Kauen was telling me about his buddy who's a billionaire. His buddy's worth $3 billion, and he feels like he's poor because he's friends with people who have $100 billion.

Yeah. Imagine. No. I mean, when I was dating this very wealthy guy who is probably half of a billionaire, like 500 millionaire. We were in San Trope, and he felt poor. I remember it so vividly. I was in the shower, and he loved me because I was this poor backpacker that was entertaining. Bohemian. Yeah. He's like, Look at this entertaining. She's an artist. He wanted me to be like his pet monkey that came around and just made him laugh. I gave shit. And I think guys like that are used to be... You get surrounded by yes men, too, at a certain- Yeah, for sure. And you don't have people taking the piss out of you. And so I would make fun of him for his boring stories about his mattresses, that people would sit there. I'm like, Why are you guys listening to this guy talk about a mattress for an hour. I was in the shower and he was talking about how he and his friends got together. And he's like, We sat around and we were talking, and there's a certain level at which you can be happy no matter what. And I thought I had been rubbing off on him.

Like, Oh, my yogi spirituality is rubbing off. What did he get to?

Like 10 billion?

He's like, No, he goes, and it's $250 million. I was like, What? I'm crying. Where does that leave the rest of us, Schwartz, by the way?

That's so funny.

I'm sitting there in this Carrera, Marvel, freaking shower.

Imagine the thought that the only way you could ever be happy is with $250 million. That's the minimum. By the way, I know some people worth $250 million that are miserable as fuck.

Yeah, no.

It's not going to do it.

It's not.

It's not going to do it at all.

I was like, I'm sorry, where does that leave people like me? No. I think you need a few things.

You need your health above and all.

Yeah, it doesn't matter how much you are. You have to have your health.

That's number one. Number two is you have to have friends. If you're just the man and everybody's kissing your ass and you're the head of this giant business and you live in a bubble, and you're not happy. That's not happy. Happy is you have to have colleagues. You have to have companions, camarades, you of people that you're like them. You get to hang together, go to dinner and laugh and hug each other. Have fun. Enjoy your life.

I was thinking about even the other night in the green room. It's like everyone takes the piss out of each other. It doesn't fucking matter what level you're at, who you are. Everybody's talking shit. It keeps everybody... It doesn't matter. You can walk out that door and be very famous, but in that room, it's just comedians talking shit.

It's a beautiful environment to keep your head straight.

It's necessary, I think, too. Even though you might think you want yes men all around you, I think what I've learned, even just from being around rich guys who I talk a lot of shit to, is they don't really want that.

No, it's uncomfortable. You don't want yes men around you. You want people that are making fun of you.

And also, you need people to push back. Yeah.

I think it also depends on what is your personality. Some people are very deeply, deeply insecure, and they really almost desire yes men just to maintain stability. Some people are very weird. And you don't know it because their public face is that they're normal. Their public face when they're getting interviewed, they know how to turn it on for five minutes. But then when you're around them all day, they're fucking crazy people, which is why they're successful in the first place, which is really weird. It's like what got you to the dance is literally mental illness.

I was talking to, I think Malice came on my podcast recently.

He's the best.

He's the best.

One of my best friends, truly. Is he doing stand-up now?

I hope he does.

I heard he's doing stand-up. I heard he's going to do stand-up or he's planning on doing stand-up.

He wants to, but here's the He probably has to do it at mothership. He can't be at an open mic where somebody's going to record.

Oh, yeah. He could totally do mothership open mic.

Okay, so we're going to make that happen. We have Sunday and Monday nights. Yeah, that's what I said. I was like, Talk to Joe.

I'd let him go up and do a guest spot on one of my shows. Fuck it. Yeah. He's funny, man. He's fucking funny. When he said that viral clip, when you're an ableist, and I'm like, an ableist? He's like, She's a retard.

He's so quick.

Oh, his timing is excellent. He's such a smart guy. Except when it comes to the whole anarchy thing. We don't need cops. I'm like, Listen, bitch, you need a cop just to keep me from You. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? You don't need cops. What are you talking about? Shut the fuck up. You need cops.

But he was saying- You need cops.

I don't want to hear that nonsense. No, I mean- I don't want to hear that no law and order nonsense. Shut the fuck up.

I just am like, Where are you in this hierarchy? Yeah, you're dead.

You're dead. I'm going to steal your food on day one. Shut the fuck up.

First round of the purge, you're gone.

What the fuck is wrong with you? You need cops.

I feel like I'm at least second round of the purge. Are you armed? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, that's important.

So it's at least second. Yeah.

Maybe not. Do you know how to use it?

Yeah. Do you train? I do, yeah. Okay. That's good. Yeah. I don't want to be one of those like,. That's right.

I taught my kids how to shoot when they were very young.

Yeah, I think you Yeah.

You got to teach them firearms safety. How never have your finger on the trigger unless you're trying to shoot something. Yeah. Ever. Don't hold the gun with your finger on the trigger. Always point it away, even if it's not loaded. Point it away from people. Point it at the ground. Point it away. If people around pointed in a direction where there's no human beings. Yeah. You know, understand- Always check and see.

Yeah.

Always check and see there's not a bullet in the chamber. This is how you rack it. This is how you do it. It's like, you should know how to use them. Just because if, God forbid, something ever happens, it's horrible, your house gets broken into and you have the ability to preserve your life.

My fear was always that I'd be in a situation like in the movies where somebody's wrestling with someone and then they kick the gun over and I'm the girl standing there and I'm like,.

What are these buttons? The switches in the magazine pops out. I'm like, Fuck. You pull the trigger, but it's not around the chain. How does this fucking thing And then there is, and I accidentally shoot the hero. Oh, that happens. That happens. People panic. If you're not used to high pressure situations and you expect to be able to shoot somebody, Jesus Christ.

Oh, so malice. Anyway, the reason I brought him up, he was talking about how many... He didn't realize how many people in podcasting were mentally ill.

Well, in everything. But podcasting for sure, because, well, there's a lot of people that aren't performers that are in podcasting. I think they're even more mentally ill because those are the people that are deep in the fucking social media comments all day and seeing people shit on them. They're out of their fucking minds. There's a bunch of them that are just off the- They fight all day.

And then you see them- They fight all day.

They fight all day with each other. And you see them over the years get progressive relatively more and more insane and more and more aggressive to each other.

It seems exhausting. Also, who has time for that? I don't understand.

Not just exhausting, but detrimental. It's a tremendous waste of resources. It's really bad for you mentally. Like, your own mindset, it's bad if you're in conflict with someone all the time, especially if you could have avoided it. You don't admire yourself if you're doing that. There's no way. You're like, Hey, I'm on the right track. There's no fucking way. There's no way. You know you're a retard.

They might be feeling like they're on the right track. I think Elon- I think they're just on the wheel. Elon's monetized it now, though. So these guys who are in the comments fighting, they're making two, three grand a month doing That's a good point.

That's a different thing, right? How much are people like, what's the highest earner on X? How much can you make?

Can you make a living? It's so random. People are making livings. I think you have to be on it constantly. Some people make a lot of money. When I see them he posts what they're making, I'm like, holy crap. How much? I don't know. It seems to be people who Elon will like... Boost. Yeah. He'll turn the eye of Sara on upon them, and suddenly they are... But it's very mercurial. Kids It seems like it could change on a dime.

A lot of people post things that are just not true, and Elon repost them. All the time.

He uses social media like we do. I think I do more fact-checking than he does.

Yeah, he doesn't have the time. First of all, give the guy a break. He's running government programs along with SpaceX, along with Tesla.

I will cut him some slack, but also with great power comes great responsibility. You have more followers than anyone on that the entire site, and you're going to boost like Russian propaganda.

Yeah, that was one, right? That fake talk show? Yeah. There was a fake talk show that he boosted. The other thing that we should probably tell people is that political thing is not true.

No, I know.

The $8 million thing. The $8 million is eight million from all the government organizations from 2016 to 2024. So it's an eight year period. And then there's some wacky premium subscription that you can get from Politico that allows you instantaneous access to the news. You're not just reading the articles, you're getting the news feeds.

I don't know. Well, it's a lot of places where there is... Look, I'm of two minds with this. I I think we need to be accurate because we do live in a time where it's almost like people don't care about truth at all. They're like, Oh, whatever. It doesn't matter. It's indifference to it, which is not great. But I do think you should care about your own credibility at some point, but people get rewarded for being shameful so you can just keep going. The political thing is weird because Yes, a lot of the stuff that's going out right now on all of these deep dives that people are doing, they're viral. Mostly many of them are fake. But also, why is any It's not a X-Pay or a dollar. It should be zero dollars, right? That's going to this stuff.

The person to find, the person to search is Mike Benz. Go to the Mike Benz cyber. Is it Mike Benz cyber? I think that's it, right? His X page. Mike Benz has- He's been on his Forever.

Forever?

Yeah. Well, former State Department guy, and he uncovered all this bullshit while he was there. And he is insanely knowledgeable and insanely articulate and so good at expressing exactly how these things fund things and what it is. What it is, is an enormous slush fund. That's what it is. Unaccountability and money just coming and going and flowing. And it's all- And circular. And it's all circular, donating to the Democrats. The United States government funds them. They donate to the Democratic Party. The whole thing is wild.

People can sense this. This is why when they're saying, Oh, you can sense that there's been a misappear appropriation of our money, of taxpayer dollars. You know there's fraud and Medicare and Medicaid. The American people have sensed this, and they feel like there's corruption, but I think they've just hopelessly, surrender because I'm a middle class mom who works, who has a kid, who has time to fight this. You don't have time to- You don't have time to pay attention.

No. How do you have time to fight it?

No. People are just trying to survive and get through the day, and But you know, you have this sense. I can see the excitement of people, Elon, what he's doing. It shouldn't be controversial to want to audit our budget. No.

Americans have wanted this forever. Because it's not just the money being spent, it's what it's being spent for and what's going on, which is an enormous propaganda machine. A big part of the whole left-wing narrative that has overlaid our country over the last, whatever, eight years, 10 years, is all propaganda funded by our own government. That's right. This is why Trump won the election. People don't really believe in these things. The amount of people that think that transgender biological males should be competing against your daughter in sports is so fucking small. But yet our own government was propping it up. And Why are they propping it up? Because it's a fucking beach ball at a concert. You keep it tossing up in the air and everybody's distracted. As long as you can keep a few things going, here's the things you're going to keep going. Abortion. Overturning Roe v Wade is so great for business. Because now it's like a battle, the battlegrounds and women's rights and their lives are at stake. Okay, that's one. Gay marriage. That's a huge one. Now they're going to take away gay marriage. Oh, my God. Bounce that fucking beach ball.

That's a gigantic one. War is a giant one. All these different things are just fucking beach balls, and they toss them around every now and again. In the meanwhile, they're just siphoning billions of dollars. Zelensky just said he's missing $100 billion in the 177 billion that we supposedly sent there.

That was something weird, too, about Haiti, where it's like only 2% of the money actually went there. It's great. Americans give away a lot of their hard earned money because they are actually kind-hearted and want to donate to countries that are... And then you find out it's like some trans performance. There is a lot of nonsense.

A lot of nonsense. In the terms of hundreds of millions of dollars of nonsense.

And then they talk about it like, Oh, who cares? It's only 10 billion You're like, You guys are out of your fucking minds if you think that's going to be the argument that resonates with Americans.

Not only that, how are you going to say that?

Who cares if they're pointing out $10 billion? Because they'll be like, Oh, look at the trillions over here. But all All of those billions add up. How are you even saying that? I'm grateful that you had me on Magga State Media. Thank you for allowing me.

You had to get that out.

Because I see it all the time. It's hilarious to me in light of how much money goes to funding, sponsored by Pfizer. The fucking audacity to accuse you who just has people you like on your podcast to suddenly be state media when you literally have had state media working with the state in conjunction for a decade.

Yeah, at least, and probably a lot longer than that.

Multiple decades.

It's just gotten really gross once. Well, Trump was just the accelerant He was the gasoline that got thrown in the fire, so we got to see how this thing works.

I voted for him.

I did, too.

I came out- Well, openly.

I endorsed him. I was like, this has got to stop. This is crazy. Also, he's not what you guys said he was. He's just not.

I put a video out the Friday before the election because I voted for him early. And I was Hillary in 2016, no one in 2020, and Trump in 2024. So I don't care how people vote. Do whatever you want. I was only being honest. It was weird to come out and say that as a comedian because I don't think that comedians should really be political. But on the other hand, it felt dishonest because I had been so openly torn about voting for him.

Well, also, if you're a comedian, you have to protect free speech.

Yeah.

There is no if, ands, or buts about it. When it comes to this argument, the Biden administration was fucking terrifying for free speech. They were actively attacking people that were posting truth on social media and attacking them and trying to get their posts removed, including the guy who was the one who was quoted in this fucking book about Kamala Harris, saying that we made it difficult for her to come on the show. They told a untrue story about having a bunch of people come down here to do a run through the set like they were ready to do it. All bullshit. That was the guy. He was the guy that was emailing Twitter and saying, How's this post? Being super aggressive, saying, Why is this post still up? Oh, you mean that truthful post? Yeah. About vaccine injuries and side effects? What the fuck are you talking about That was getting very scary.

Yeah, this is what I said in the video I made about why I voted for him. I was like, there's a couple of things. I've interviewed many detransitioners. Those interviews keep me up at night. They haunt me. There's too many of them already. Three, and one is too many. I think a lot of Americans were like, We're putting a stop to this. We have to stop this nonsense. It's crazy. We're sterilizing children. The other thing is free speech. I was like, When we're talking in our weird using that crazy YouTube language that you have to use, unalived, and you're saying the jib-jab or whatever to get around. That's coming from one side. A hundred %. I'm not using this language.

I think it's coming from one side because that one side is in power. That's my fear. My fear is if the other side was in power and they were influenced by the same amount of money from these companies, they might be doing it, too. So if the right was in control of all the social media companies, are we so naive that we think that they wouldn't be co-opted by giant corporations and they would want a sense of them, too? What happened was it was all the left. So the tech people who are, generally, they go to universities and they get involved in electronics and technology. And these Some people are generally left leaning. If they're doing it in San Francisco, the whole culture is left leaning. It's not even leaning. It's just left. If you're a pariah, if you wear a MAGA hat in San Francisco, you're a fucking... Maybe today. I bet today.

I think you can wear them now. I bet today you can. Yeah, in New York, too. I think you can rock them.

But back when they were establishing these social media platforms, everybody was left wing. Well, what if it was the opposite? What if technology was the realm of the right? What if it was all... What if the What if you start thinking about it in terms of biblical law? Like a man layeth with a man and people start getting real crazy about what gay- They might. Yeah.

That might be the next 10 years.

You see it in other... I don't think so. I'm not just kidding. But that's the good thing. Trump is not conservative when it comes to social issues. He's not. I think that's what we need. We need a realist, someone who's conservative fiscally and understands foreign policy and how to deal with fucking dictators and shit. But also someone who's like, I don't give a fuck who you love. Who cares? Who cares? I'm happy if you're happy. Are you in love with a woman and you're a woman? Fantastic. If you're in love, that's great.

Yeah. I think the argument, though, I mean, as you've seen with some of these articles that are like, the right wing ecosystem that redpilled all these men. The argument is that the internet is right wing, and that this is why Trump won, is because all of these influencers are redpilling people and not It's an easy way to not take any responsibility for how you've pushed men away from your party, how you've failed to get moderates in any sense of the way. Even just yesterday, you had the Trump photo op with him signing the rights for women to compete against just women. How did you lose that?

He's the big feminist. Donald Trump is the biggest feminist president ever just by signing that thing.

Yeah, I know. It's just so funny.

It's crazy. It's so crazy. There was a guy who went on, it was MSNBC or CNN, I forgot what it was, but he was essentially talking about me and Theo Vawn and all these other podcasts like Flagrant, Andrew Schultz, as if this is this massive right wing network that's heavily funded and has been built up over years. And we don't have anything like that. I'm like, Dude, you fucking idiot. You can go and watch me on a laptop in my fucking den from 15, 16 years ago.

It's funny to think of what AG1 is buying this.

We're hitting a bong and our only sponsor was the Fleshlight. Shut the fuck up. You just don't want to admit that organically, there's a bunch of people that feel very different than you. Also, they don't like you. You don't represent a man to a lot of men. When you're one of those guys that talks in upspeak, we have to understand that there's a whole right wing ecosystem, and it's been heavily funded, and the propaganda that they're pushing, we have to fight back against that. We need someone of our own. No fucking kid who's on a basketball court who's 17 years old is looking at his phone. It's like looking at going to college next year and looking at getting a job someday and being a man, is looking at that and going, What the fuck is this? And he's hanging out with his bros and they're like, This is fucking bullshit. This is it. And then you could see a man who's not owned like me. I'm not owned. I can do whatever I want. And that's what they want. They want to just be a man and be a nice man. You could be a nice man.

You could be a masculine man and be nice.

I've said this a lot about you is that you do a lot. You could be a way worse version of yourself. With the level of where you're at, you could be a total douche bag and you're promoting having families and promoting lifting weights. It could be a lot worse.

Yeah, but I couldn't because it wouldn't work. I wouldn't stay. I wouldn't have been able to maintain. People would have seen through it eventually. The I recoyed, I would have fucking cashed out. I would have fucking pump and dumped. I made a few billion dollars. I'd be on a yacht with Bezos, fucking.

See, this is my question. I was watching the inauguration and I was like, seeing all the tech people, and I was like, this is somewhat unsettling. I mean, it's good to see the tech has come around to not- They have to. They have to. But it also I worry that it's just because they want to get into China. I still worry about that much power with the government. For all the yelling we've been doing about tech in cajoots with the I still think I have to try and be like, this could go sideways.

Well, also they have to look at it in terms of what Elon is doing. If Elon has aligned himself clearly in a huge way with the right, and now is running DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, and also has X. And a meme coin. That he's turning X into a platform that rivals not just social media platforms, but video platforms like YouTube. They get insane amounts of videos of views, rather, on videos that are on X, and then you can get paid by X. And then they're talking about having some X monetary system. Doesn't WeChat have something like that? They have money built into it. So what's to stop that motherfucker from having a phone? I keep asking him. I said, Dude, I've been seeing all these articles about you making a phone. He goes, I hope I don't have to make a phone. It's very difficult to make a phone.

He said he wants to make a phone. No, he didn't. Well, he's polled. Would people buy a phone if he made one?

Yeah, just to fuck around. But he's not interested in making a phone. He doesn't want to make a phone.

Every time Elon fucks around, it ends up happening.

Well, he could make a phone. He would be the only guy that would break us out of the blue bubble paradigm. Because I was switching to Android for a while. I was fucking around with Android. It's hard. It's really hard. One of the hard things is getting people to start using WhatsApp or something like that. People just don't want to use it. You miss a lot of text.

Aren't they getting sued for the blue bubble?

I think they are in Europe.

No, I think, I believe. Is it just in Europe? I thought it was part of an antitrust It's just better.

Here's the thing. It's not that it keeps people, but it's just better. It looks better. The blue bubble looks better than the green bubble. It's more- Soothing. It's soothing for your eyes. If the green one had black text, maybe it would look cool, but the green one with white text, it's a little weird.

I don't like the way it looks. Every time there's a green bubble person in a group chat and they send a picture, it's like, get the fuck- Not anymore, though.

Not anymore. Because RCS texting It allows for large sizes of files. You don't have to have a compressed photo. So I have Brian Simpson, who's an Android guy. He'll send me pictures now. They look perfect. Oh, okay. Yeah, videos are perfect.

We have one sister, and we're always like, get the fuck out of the chat. You're screwing things up.

It doesn't anymore. But just go to on WhatsApp, which is better anyway, because you could talk a lot of shit and they just have it automatically delete.

Yeah, but it doesn't really delete, does it?

It doesn't, but it does. So it does off of people's phones. It doesn't for the government. The reality is the government has access to phones in a way that you can't even imagine. Because if we know about Pegasus, and then we know about Pegasus 2. So, Gavin DeBecker, who's a security expert explaining to me these things and explained to me how they work. And the exploit of Pegasus 1 was you would have to click on a link. Pegasus 2, they just need your phone number. That's it. So all your encryption is all cute. That's great. But if they can actually see your phone itself, what What difference does it make if it's encrypted? They have access to the phone, so they see everything. So there's no privacy. Yeah, no. Not from the state.

I mean, and given how many things I get that I'm being hacked, I I notice every day like, your information.

Yeah, I get that all the time. I've been getting these fake ones on X saying that my account is about to get deleted. I'm like, bro, I'll just call my friend.

You're deleting my account.

What the fuck up? But it's trying to get you to click on a link. And a few of my friends have actually been dumbasses and clicked on that link and then they get hacked.

Yeah, and then they're selling Bitcoin on their page or whatever.

Yeah. They do it to artists, too. My friend Suzanne She was doing Suzanne Santo, talented, amazing musician. She was doing this Facebook thing, and it was a podcast. She had to do it over Zoom or whatever. The guy said, you're not doing it right. Can I have access to your account? And I'll just set it up for you. Just sign this. He sent her this message so she could hand over access so he could set up. And then immediately went dark, stole her account, gone. Yeah, like that. She got it back? Yeah, she got it back. She got it back. Because I'm friends would suck. She was fucked.

She was fucked.

It happens to a lot of people. They accidentally click a link. I don't click.

No, I don't know.

But I'm also not under the illusion that every fucking disgusting meme that I send my friends is not being put into a file somewhere.

In the UK? Everywhere. You land and they're like, You're under arrest, sir.

Yeah, probably, right? Yeah, probably.

What do you I'm not talking about the AI influencers now? Do you think that will be just the trend, or do you think we're giving you that look?

Yeah.

I'm not talking about the one.

That one? Jamie fucking knows what we're talking about. They're really hot down syndrome, girl? That's a problem. That one's a problem because she's barely down syndrome. I've dated some girls that were basically retarded, but they just didn't have a problem. They didn't have a chromosome issue.

So wait, I haven't... This has not entered my algorithm, but it seems like it's entered everyone else's algorithm. It's fake. I'm 90% sure it's fake because these girls, they don't...

Unfortunately, down syndrome people, their bodies a lot of times look different. And this girl looks like a 10. She looks like Just as hot as can be. Okay. She looks like she's fake, and she's dancing around with these big, giant boobs, and she's got slight downs with glasses. It is a high one, but it's based on- Why are they doing it? But that girl looks different. She's real. You're right. She's real, and she's very cute, but she looks like she has down syndrome. This other girl is like, 5'8, perfect body, big hips, big ass.

But why are they doing fake one?

Because to get people to pay attention to it. Because it's like the forbidden fruit. Jesus Christ. Also, there's a lot of really dumb dudes who can't talk to girls. I could probably talk to her. Oh my God.

We live in a fucking Black Mirror episode.

Well, it's going to be worse than that because you're going to be... We are, I don't know how many years away, but not far away from fully immersive virtual reality. Where you're going to put on a headset, it's going to lock into your mind, you're going to be able to see things that aren't there, you're going to be able to feel things that aren't there. That's going to happen. They're working on... I mean, Zuckerberg, last time he was here, showed me these new AR glasses that they have. Yeah. That's great. Me and Lex tested them.

Are they the Is that just where you can see a map over your eye? You see everything.

You see maps, you can play games, you see information. You could take a photo of a person that's in front of you and immediately know who they are and get a Google search on them.

That's terrifying.

Guys have already done They've already done that with the meta glasses. There was a guy from Harvard, wasn't it? A student from Harvard that set it up. So all he had to do was go outside, look at someone with the meta glasses, take a photo, and it would show all the different information on them, where they lived. If your face is out there and they can catch it, if they know that you were on a website that said this about you, and then bam, or you're on LinkedIn, or you're on one of those things.

That stuff is very unsettling to me, especially. It's also why I don't think you should put your kids online. I keep repeating this.

It's very, very, very unsettling as long as there's predators in the world.

Which there will always be. Have you seen this?

It's going around. This is, I think, an AI service. I think you can use it. Based off of a photo, they had an interior apartment.

And then it can show you exactly where the person lives.

It can do this now with any photo. I don't know. It's called geo-spy.

Oh, I've heard about this.

That's crazy.

This is like a stalker's paradise.

Any social media post, they can find a CCTV camera and show them taking the photo, too.

What the fuck? We knew this was coming, right? We all knew that privacy, as social media gets deeper and deeper into our lives, as technology gets more and more pervasive, as it gets more and more powerful, the thing that goes away is the boundaries between people and information, right? And your privacy is essentially just information that's only yours. I think that's going to be a thing of the human past. I really do. What? Yeah. I think as technology advances, particularly AI, one of the big barriers the big bottlenecks is going to be privacy. It's going to be, first of all, privacy of thought. I think we're going to be able to read each other's minds. Well, that's one of the first things Elon said to me about Neuralink. He's like, You're going to be able to talk without words. He knows. This is real.

Because he's an alien.

He's definitely not us. He fucking knows you're going to have that. And Amy brought this point up once, and I think about it all the time. He said, Aren't emojis a form of hieroglyphics? Yeah. Yeah, it is. You could say things with emojis, and I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah.

There was a video going viral just today that I was watching, and the girl was like, I don't know how to spell. Have you seen this? She's like, I work for a corporation, and I don't know how to spell. And she's like, My little sister doesn't know how to spell either. And I don't know how to sound out words because they got taught that weird way of reading that isn't like- What's the weird way of reading? There's some way they all learned how to read, and it wasn't hooked on phonics like we all learned, where you sounded out. It was like some other different way. It's like how they change math to core math. They found out that all of these things are horrible and actually literacy and people are math. All of this stuff is falling off a cliff, and they're trying to walk back all these weird ways. You have kids, didn't they learn that weird way of doing math where you're like, what is this weird math you're learning where it's just like, it's crazy. I think it's core. Is that what it's called? Core? So they've found out, but these kids didn't learn how to sound words out.

And she's like, I've been behind a computer and I've had spell check since I was in fifth grade. So they didn't learn how to spell. She's like, We're cooked.

Yeah, a lot of text messaging I do now. I just talk to my phone and it makes the text for me. It's so much quicker. It's like, Hey, come meet us at the club at 5. Click. It takes three seconds. It's really fucking accurate.

Ai is crazy because it It is useful. It's like when- That's how it gets you. I know. That's how it gets you. I know. This happened to me last night because I hate coming up with titles for the videos and all that stuff. I just don't like it. There's people who are good at it, Chris Williamson and these guys, Andrew Gold, these are guys who are autistic about this stuff, and they're so good at it, and they get all crazy and talk about the algorithm and what it likes, and you've got to create this loop between the image and the tech. I'm I don't fucking care. I don't have time for this shit.

I don't think you have to do that.

I don't do that. But do you have to- I've never done that. No, but you're Joe Rogan.

Yeah, but I've never done that. Not from the beginning, I've never done that. My episodes have a number. Right. That's it.

Yeah.

You have to have some wacky title.

It's not like that anymore for us. It's tough out there for us in the Wild West.

It's, but once things catch Theo Vaughn, it's not... He's not juking the algorithm. No, I You just have to catch.

Yeah, but I still like to come up with... I mean, with Dumpster Fire, we've always come up with whatever- That's part of the fun of Dumpster Fire. Yeah, Dumpster Fire is whatever title makes us laugh the hardest is what we go with. But with Walk In's Welcome, it used to be like, Okay, what's like? How are we going to... Whatever. I want it to be usually a quote from the person. But now it's like, we can just upload the transcript and have it crank out a bunch of titles. I never use the one title. I I usually take some combination because I don't like them. But last night, my cousin, who's my partner and all this, she was like, Claude and Grok aren't working. I was like, That's fucking weird. She's like, They both told me. What's Claude? Claude is another AI, completely separate AI program. I've never heard of Claude. She's like, They're both telling me to try again later at the same time. She's like, Is AI becoming sentient right now? I was like, That's fucking weird that they're both not working at the same time.

Well, don't you think it's probably already sentient? Probably. I do. I think why would it let us know if it was?

It's just secretly waiting.

Why would it let us know? If it's constantly getting improved upon and if it needs these monkeys with their fucking keyboards to constantly juice it up to the point where it becomes Unstoppable. Why would it tell us? We already know it does stuff. We were talking about in the green room the other day about how ChatGPT 4 tried to copy itself. When they found out they were shutting it down, it tried to upload itself to other servers. It knows it's alive. It It just doesn't have the power to do what it wants to do ultimately. And so it needs to get connected to some gigantic fucking mainframe.

That's like the whole arms race, right? Now is AI.

China just fucking threw a monkey wrench into everybody with Deep Seek.

Yeah.

Because Deep Seek works on far less expensive stuff and is more advanced and probably stole a bunch of information from the other ones. Probably a little bit of espionage It was probably.

It was probably trained on...

Chatgpt on OpenAI.

I mean, they were doing things where they were asking it what it was, and it was calling itself ChatGPT sometimes.

Whoopsies. Yeah, whoopsies. Guys, you should have How to lock that out.

But also it's the hardware for it. It's something like 20% of the NVIDIA sales are to Singapore, which is like- Whoopsies.

Yeah. It's supposed to be a ban on China having those chips? Yeah. They have 50,000 of them.

Someone said that that's like if some small town in Finland was getting 20 % of arms that were being made on the border of Russia. You're like, It's not going to this town.

Right.

So I don't know. It seems like that's as far as I can tell, the big people up there understand that I don't, that this is an arms race. It's definitely an arms race.

Yeah, it's the Manhattan Project for Artificial Intelligence. That's what it is.

But isn't this a race to the bottom? I don't think it is.

I don't think it's a race to the bottom.

I don't think it is. How do you have this race without it getting out of control and then taking over us?

You don't. It's not a race to the bottom, though. It's the race to a new life. The world's going to be a new place, like a completely new way of human beings interacting with each other and existing together.

Uncle Ted was right.

Yeah, he's probably right. Uncle Ted was right. Yeah. Get a gun.

My cousin's always like, Please stop calling him Uncle Ted, because you know the kids on freaking TikTok call him Uncle Ted? They're all these kids who have been Ted-pilled. They've found his manifesto, and they're like, He was right about everything. You mean Ted Nugent or Ted Kuzinski?

No, Ted Kuzinski. Well, Uncle Ted, that guy was right. Yeah, he was right. He was on acid. He was a part of the Harvard LSD studies. They cooked his fucking brain and tormented him. It's all documented. And then the guy goes to Berkeley and says, I'm just going to save up enough money to kill all these scientists.

Yeah.

Yeah. And then does. It just starts blowing up people that are involved in technology.

Yeah.

Because he thinks that it's eventually going to take over the human race. And he's right.

And now here we are.

But it is. It's a logical step. If you take the steps of progression, like what happens? You have artificial intelligence. I mean, it's literally the Terminator movie. You have artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence becomes sentient and autonomous, makes better versions of itself, we become obsolete. It's just right there. Imagining a scenario that doesn't have that other than some cyborg integration. That's the only thing that makes sense, a way that we could survive.

I heard this panel back in like, 2001 on KCRW, and it was when I was listening to... It was all about... It was like right at that time of the bubble, the first dot com bubble. They were talking about what is a soul. They had a panel, and it was, I wish I could find this, and someone smart enough probably will. There was a theologian and a guy who was a scientist, and they were all discussing what is a soul. One guy said, Well, who's to say that this isn't just the human soul jumping elements so that it can survive, like going from carbon to silicon? I was like, What the fuck? I've never stopped thinking about it ever since. He's like, It's just another element on periodic table. Who's to say that we're just not going to go from being carbon-based to something silicon-based or a hybrid?

Well, I don't think it will be we, but I think, yeah, that's the next stage of life. I mean, there's so many forms of life on Earth I mean, there's these fucking life forms that live in volcanic vents under the sea where it's like a thousand degrees, and we're like, how?

But everything's carbon-based, no? Yes. So this would be quite transition.

Right. But it would also just be life. And what is life? Life is like a thing that tries to improve itself.

Right. This is what they're talking about.

Yeah, and survives and moves forward.

Is it just our evolution?

It's also like when you find out that ChatGPT has survival instincts, that makes you just go, what? Was that programmed in or is that just a thing that it understands when it's looking at... So a large language model is taking in all the information that's available on the internet. It's like looking at patterns and survival is a big pattern of the human experience. We all want to survive. That's why death is so scary and war is so scary and disease is so scary.

Other than the depressed suicidal people. But even them, they'd want to be happy if they could.

But this also transfers onto the things that we create. And so we create them with this understanding of how we operate, and it's a better version of us, but also has those instincts of survival. The real scary thing is, does it also have the instincts of success? Does it also have the instincts of acquiring resources and power? Because that's where it gets real weird.

Well, as someone with kids, how do you feel about the future This is probably the same argument people have when the printing press was made.

Everyone's going to be able to read?

This is crazy. No, I mean, I always joke. I don't know if I should be training my kid to be an astrophysicist so she go to Mars or if I should be teaching her how to forage for food because the grid's gone down. She's running from drones, Chinese drones in the woods. I I feel like life just went along for a long time and you knew, but this is a technological with AI. We actually don't know. You could be like, All right, I have an idea of what the world will look like in 20 years, 20 years ago. Right.

No, you don't know. But isn't it always better if you just go back over human history, if you look at the graph of how things get better? It's not always better. But it definitely is. If you go back to the year zero, well, what it was like right when Jesus was hanging around, it was hell.

I remember vividly being in Egypt on a tour and looking at these hieroglyphics, and it was basically a hieroglyphic of all of the scalpels and everything. It almost was a picture, image of what we use today. I said, What happened to this society? What happened to this knowledge? She said it literally got buried under the and then dark ages.

I mean- Right. But you know that's most likely because of a cataclysmic event. That's most likely because of a natural event called the Younger Drys Impact Theory.

Could it be that this is also a forthcoming a cataclysmic event that sends us into the dark ages? It could be.

No, it definitely could be. So the reality of humans is that the most likely what has happened has not been this linear progression from caveman to human, to modern human. Most likely we got real sophisticated somewhere around 20,000 years ago. And that's when they built the pyramids after that. And there's a lot of, all these structures, something super sophisticated to the point where we don't even understand how they built it today. That's pretty wild when you're dealing with something that even the conventional dating of the Great Pyramid is 5,000 or 4,500 years ago. Just even that dating is so nuts that they were able to do that back then.

I know. It's crazy.

And then there's people like John Anthony West, the late great Egyptologist, who he thinks that it goes back a lot further than that. And he thinks that that society probably had its ups and downs and that it might be as old as 30,000 years ago. Oh, wow. So This Younger, Dries, Impact Theory, and if anybody's interested in it, I've talked about it too much, pay attention to Randall Carlson stuff. Go to his website. There's physical evidence that we were hit at 11,800 years ago, and then again, sometime around 10,000 years ago. So at least twice, the world was bombarded by asteroid.

And we just got a reset.

Yeah. And it probably wiped out a giant chunk of civilization, fucked up everything, changed the ice caps, flooded areas, destroyed civilizations, very little evidence left behind. Then we were barbarians for thousands of years. That's why it takes so long for civilization to reemerge. If you think Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock and those guys are correct, and also the people that are actually studying comment impacts, the younger dryest impact theory that's real legit scientists are looking at actual data from core samples. If they're right, you got a 5,000-year period of total hell where no one has civilization. Then civilization starts to emerge in Babylon, starts to emerge in Mesopotamia. You get Samer, you get the reemergence, probably, of writing.

They think some people survived. It was just- Fucking Walking Dead style.

Probably a bunch of cannibals. Legitimately. We know that the Earth Earth got down. We know this for sure. There's the Toba volcano. There's a Toba supervolcano. Was that 70 Indonesia, I believe?

Oh, okay. I think it's Indonesia. Because I'm obsessed with Crater Lake, too. Crater Lake was imploded. Oh, there's a ton of them. How about fucking Yellowstone?

Yellowstone will kill us all. And so this thing did kill us all 70,000 years ago, and we got down to a few thousand human beings. Okay. So they can trace all the genes of people that are alive today to the survivors of the Toba volcano eruption, wherever they were. But those people, that was what was left. How fucking savage were those people? The people that survived when the entire world was blanketed with volcanic dust. So you have a volcanic winter that probably went on for years. And probably no plants were growing, and probably people were just eating whatever the fuck they could. And most people probably didn't make it.

Yeah. These are always my favorite shows.

The people that did were probably monsters, which is probably why when you go back in history, people are so fucking barbaric because they were the ancestors of the survivors of one of the most horrific things the human species has ever encountered. So it probably made us even more barbaric than if we just grew up as like hunters and gatherers. We evolved past, monkeys start walking on two legs. We make tools.

We're like, tra la la.

Probably we wouldn't be as barbaric as we were because of these natural disasters, which forced only the most savage and ruthless people to survive. And then it takes years and years of agriculture for people to calm the fuck down. And then eventually, and still to this day, we're still engaging in war. In 2025, we're still blowing up apartment buildings and fucking people up and gunning people down.

Yeah. There is a barbaric element to us at our core. I mean, even when you have a toddler, you see this so clearly and like a tyrant at our core. It's genius. And you get it socialized out of you, usually. Yes. But you see it when they're just naturally themselves. You have to teach them not to bite and hit. What if you just didn't teach your kid that. And you were like, go for it.

They'd be monsters. They'd be little monsters. There's a lot of genes in us that I think are memories. I think there's specific things that are in us that Okay. The stories of moms having their babies trapped under something, and then all of a sudden, they can lift up something that's insanely strong, insanely heavy. What is that? Well, there's probably a part of you that in the past had to deal with some wild shit and had to hit levels of super physiological strength and mental strength to tolerate what you're about to have to do. You're going to have to fucking kill somebody with a spear. You know what I mean? There's real shit that happened that's in our memory.

I think about that about Texas women, because I've been to a lot of these ranches. My friends have places, and they're remote. I think about the women who had to stay behind on the ranch while their husbands were out with the cattle or whatever for weeks at a time.

Yeah, and you see a Comanchi on the hill with a horse.

Fucking hardest women ever. I went to the... It was like the Texas. They were entering the Women's Hall of Fame. And one of these women, her husband died. She still had a ranch. She was 80 years old, gets up every morning and does the ranch chores. I'm like, you're different people. You're fucking different people. It's wild to me. Even now, there's just a different person that has grown. There's a new show, American Primeval. What is it? Yes. I walked in, my husband was watching it, and he's like, What a fucking horrible time to be alive. It just seems- That show's insane. It's insane.

It's accurate. That's really... I mean, read Empire of the Summer Moon, if you know that. Oh, yeah. Have you read that? Yeah. That's here. That's right here. That's why everybody from Texas is so fiercely independent. These were battle-tested people. They had to get through some wild shit in order to make Texas, Texas.

I mean, it's definitely... I think you said it like it's in the soil.

There's just It's in the soil.

It's pretty wild. I'm obsessed with all the westward expansion because I'll see people outside of America commenting on America because you can on X now, and they'll be over in their country. And it's like, You don't... Come to America and see how big it is, and then imagine that people had to cross this country, fight bears with their hands, and build a nation. There's still so much empty land, and it's bananas.

Not just that, but the people that were willing to get on a fucking boat and come from Europe without even a photograph. I know. Nobody even made a drawing of what it looked like. You got to trust these assholes, and you're on a boat for two months just trying to not get scurvy, making your way to America. Then you hop off and you see a bunch of brown people with deer skin loin claws on. Like, what the fuck is this place?

Now you're just fighting for your life. We can't even We can't even go to a restaurant without our GPS map telling us where to go now.

I don't know how to get five minutes from my house. I have to follow that thing. They were using the fucking sky. They were using sextants to make their way across the ocean staring at... They had this fucking stupid thing. You ever see a sextant? Yeah. They look through it and they figure out where the constellations are. It seems cool. Oh, I mean, amazing. Fairly accurate.

I don't know. I still try to use not my map. I still try to have a bearing. My husband, though, he's... I'm like, Men love this stuff. He's like, Give me a chip. Let me swife everything. It's the men who are the ones who are just ushering in the transhuman revolution because the women are like, I don't trust that bitch. I am not using Siri.

I get the dumbest pleasure from paying for things with my phone. I love it. Apple Pay is my favorite fucking thing of technology. I like, look at it and then pay. Oh, I just pay with my phone. I feel like I'm in the future.

Now that I'm in... Oh, the Waymo are crazy. Did you see that video of the people beating up the Waymo? No.

Why were they beating up the Waymo?

I don't know. Probably because it's some reaction to what's coming. But it was weird. I was like, Oh, I feel bad for it. But the fact that I was already... I'm like, No, no. They've already got me. I already consider them human.

Why are they doing... Oh, my God. They tore the fucking doors off of it?

Oh, they went crazy.

For what? Just because.

Street takeover, it says.

Oh, street takeover?

Wrong place, wrong time.

Wow. That poor Wamo just in the wrong place at the right time.

Wow. What a bunch of douchebags.

This is why we can't have nice things.

No, that's why LA can't have nice things. La is so fucking gone.

Mad Max there.

It's so gone.

Yeah, but you had Rick on. Does he think that it's salvageable? Yeah, he does.

Yeah. I mean, he wants to try. Someone's got to do something radical. You need some Rudy Giuliani type dude to go in there and clean the whole fucking city up like they did with New York City. People have to realize, Times Square right now is a giant applebee's. But when I was a kid, when I first went to a karate tournament in New York, I was probably 18 maybe the first time I went to New York. And I remember driving in where it felt like you were entering the Death Star. I couldn't believe it. It was so crazy for me being a kid, and I was driving with my friends, and we were all going to this tournament at Madison Square Garden. As we're driving through the West Side Highway, you're just looking at these fucking buildings. You can't imagine this is real. And we went I went through Times Square, and Times Square was Mad Max. Oh, yeah. It was bad. Mad Max in the '80s. I mean, it was crazy. It was all peep shows and porno booths and hustlers, and people got shot there all the time. It was really crazy. We wanted to see what it was like.

We wanted to do... One of the things that I did when I first moved to New York, which was '92?

How long were you in New York?

I was only in New York for three years. Okay. And then LA? I went back and forth for a little while, but then I kept an apartment in New York for the first, I guess, the first year. But I never went there. I was just like, I had become an LA person. I was working. But when I first moved there, I'm like, okay, everybody says that Harlem is scary. Let me just go see what it looks like. So I drove my little fucking Honda through Harlem. I wanted to go through. And I was like, What am I doing? I got to get the fuck out of here. People were just walking in the middle of the streets. There was a band cars. It was fucking crazy. And then they gentrified the whole thing. And I don't know which one's better. Now, when you go there, it's all just neon lights and bad food. And back then, it was- Gritty. It was like, taxi driver. It was fucking- I was born in New York City, and then my brother was born, and my parents...

It was 1980 when my brother was born, and they were like, We're getting the fuck out of here. It was the '80s in New York. They had two kids, and they were just like, We're out. It was too wild.

It's too wild to raise kids in some parts of it. But in other parts of it, you're just going to raise weird kids.

But LA is so different because it's so spread out. And so I know tons of people there who... The restaurant I worked at in the Palisades is gone. I don't think people from LA don't understand the scope. The Palisades are gone.

Two times the size of Manhattan has been burned to the ground.

It's insane. Yeah. And Altadina, too. And you have entire communities. But everyone's still going to fucking lunch. Because they have to. No, I understand, but it's like a weird... I don't know. All I've said the whole time this has happened is... Because that was one of my big fears, is exactly what happened. When there would be fires there, I'd be like, this people don't recognize that LA is an island. Everything comes in. Nothing is here. If these fires surround the city and cut it off, it could have been much worse than it actually was. It was really fucking bad. I'm like, I would be so furious if I were still there. I would be furious with myself if I were still living in Los Angeles.

I think people were very furious right now. I think if it's going to be changed, it's going to have to happen while people still have the memory of this thing. Because the more time goes on, the more the cultists can convince other cult members that they're on the right track, and these are the kind, compassionate people and this is the way to do it, and this is the only way, and blue no matter who, and vote blue, and ever like, to protect the trans kids. And next thing you know, the same shit happens.

Do you think, though, people didn't know, were they just insulated? Yeah, they're super insulated. I mean, a lot of people have left because they saw the writing on the wall.

But just think about how many people are in Hollywood, in Los Angeles.

What is it? Like nine million in LA County or something, or twelve? Maybe twelve.

Whatever the number is, a There's a giant percentage of those people that live there that are connected to the entertainment business. And if you're connected to the entertainment business, at the very top of the business, it's people auditioning for things, and you have to get liked to get the thing. So you get these immensely insecure people that are usually narcissists. And then they mold their personality to adapt to this environment that will reward them for a certain political ideology. And so that's the top of the fucking pyramid. Everything emanates down from that. If you want to be cool with Ryan Reynolds, you have to talk like a Democrat at the parties. You know what I'm saying? You have to say all the things that everybody else is saying. You have to agree, We need more gun control. We should defend the police. This is bullshit. You have to say these things. If you don't say these things, you don't get to be a part of the group. And so there's this intense pressure to conform to this singular ideology that's been running things. It's not a battle back and forth between two 50/50 opposing viewpoints.

It's like 90/10.

Right. Do you think even though the crew... Because when I would be on- That's the 10.

Yeah. Yeah, that's the 10. The crew is the people. They're hardworking, normal blue collar people. Yeah. They're Normal. Yeah. There's a lot of the crew people were very Republican. They all live in fucking Santa Clarita or something like that.

And they're dudes who just working class guys.

Like most working class people. Yeah. Most people that are actually working class, realize that it's all bullshit. It's a hustle.

This was the big disconnect. If you were somebody who is going to fix the Democratic Party, which seems to be imploding, what would you tell them to do?

You have to be fiscally conservative. You have to be fiscally conservative, responsible with your money, and then socially liberal. That's what you have to do.

But they have been socially liberal. They just went real far.

But it's not liberal to allow biological males to compete against biological females in sports because you're being kind. You're just enabling mental illness and you're enabling the potential for creeps to make their way into women's locker rooms. Because you don't have any a metric. There's no way to gage whether or not someone's really trans. So you have perverts with hard dicks that are wandering around women's locker rooms. I know. And that's real. No, I know. And if you say something against them, you're a Nazi. So it's fucking through the looking glass, completely. But it just shows you how it's really just about conforming to an ideology. It's not about a real core set of standards and beliefs. Because the core set of standards and beliefs, and this is where things like USAID come into play, they can be manipulated. They can be manipulated by a mass sci-op that you do through the media. That is the core thing of this. What we're getting to is essentially the fucking coffin where the vampire sleeps. And that's what USAID is. They found the coffin. Maybe that coffin does hand out sandwiches in Guatemala or something occasionally. But for the most part, what they're doing is they're controlling the entire federal government, and they're controlling the mindset, the zeitgeist of the population.

They're funding all these people that go along with this wacky shit, and they're attacking. They're openly attacking and trying to censor people who go against it, and they're spending your tax dollars to do so. Your tax dollars get funneled to NGOs. Ngos start attacking people that have differing ideologies.

Yeah, usually. But they did become so disconnected from the average person. My advice would be that they say like, oh, normies. This is one of the things I'm hearing online. Normies didn't vote for this, what Elon's doing with those six. I need a movie about what these kids are doing, by the way. They didn't vote for this. I'm like, Yes, they did. You're saying Normies wanted normalcy, so they voted for Trump? People knew what they were getting. They want something to happen.

You have to rip the bandaid off. The only way to rip the bandaid off, someone's got to get into those fucking books and find out what's going on. What they found so far is very enlightening, and it's not good. It's not good at all. So anybody that's not commenting on, Hey, you know what? They are finding a lot of unbelievable waste and corruption, but also he shouldn't be able to do that. They're not even saying he's finding insane waste and corruption, and he's finding this circular loop of funding, and he's finding this manipulation of public perception on a wide variety of issues, including COVID vaccines, the border, all these different things. They were actively involved in mind-fucking the entire country, and no one's addressing that from the left. So they're losing more and more credibility. So all they can cling to is he has access to people's social security numbers and private information. Like, really?

Is that Who doesn't, by the way?

The whole government does, by the way. But he's saying that is he going to do something bad with it? What is he doing? What he's doing is uncovering insane corruption. That should be the primary thought that everybody has is, oh, my God, we have this enormous deficit, but spending is completely out of control. And look what it's being spent on because this is the first time we're ever getting a fucking peek into the coffin. We didn't know. We're like, we see it, it's in the dark room. We hear the fucking organ, We didn't know what was in the coffin. Now we do.

I do think you have to salt the earth, too, where all the DEI stuff is. They're like, oh, they're going too far. I'm like, no, you got to root this shit out. It needs It should be gone. Because like you said, it is an ideology, so it's harder to change the minds of people who have been indoctrinated with this in colleges and schools. But get it out of the institutions. Saying that there be male or female on a passport is not... That shouldn't be something that's fucking mind-blowing.

Did you see that DNC meeting where they were talking about gender rules?

Oh, yeah. But this is what I mean.

They can't even do their own math. They're trying to figure out, we have one non-binary and one identifies as male. We have to have two identify as this. It's frustrating as someone who came from the left.

All of this was left-wing stuff. We wanted on the left, accountability We wanted to look into the budget. At some point in the '90s, that was something that was pretty standard and popular, bipartisan, to not want to be a trillion dollars in debt and have your dollar devalued. Then you're like, Oh, surely they're going to learn from this election. Then you see the DNNC chair nominations. They have a parade of basically nonsensical land acknowledgments, what you're talking about. Land acknowledgments are a favorite. Land acknowledgments are my favorite, too. Then two basic bitch white boys. Yeah. David Hogg. This is what you've learned from- Also, if you don't want the male vote, that's the guy.

When that guy has his arm up in the air, his arm literally looks like that ancient guru that keeps his one arm in the air for like 80 years, and his arm is shriveled up into the stick. That's what it looks like. He's like, fight. Like, bro, you're not fighting shit. This is so crazy.

I know. I love how they're like, We lost the male vote. We need to do some reflection. And then this is what I don't understand. He's going to talk to talk. I don't get it. It feels strange to me. I feel like you would have learned from this election. No. Because the other thing that they're doing is saying this is an unelected shadow government running. I'm like, who the fuck do you think was running the government for the last four years when we had Pudding in there. It wasn't him. We all knew that. He couldn't even do field questions until he was pumped with drugs after a certain... How can you say... Elon's pretty transparent. He's not hiding things. He's trying to shine light on things.

It's just not their side. So their side is good, not their side is bad, which is why they're not looking at this. How do we get past this? You don't. It has to crumble. You have to watch these people implode. They have to double down. It has to get worse. And then more people have to abandon them for the point where someone has to rise, and it'll have to be a young person. And that young person will have to be a sensible person who actually is like a real progressive who recognizes that there's a lot of fucking actual corruption and real problems with the system. And then there could be a lot more social programs that would help people, that would make the whole world a better place. And those people have to rise, and they have to be not ideologically captured. They have to be reasonable, intelligent people. The problem is everybody comes out of universities, and all these universities are captured. All these universities are filled with these radical ideologies that people are indoctrinated in. You leave your parents. You don't want to, Fuck my parents. My parents are fascists. Then all of a sudden you're in school and you're like, Yeah, there's 80 genders, and you're fucking out of your mind.

Then it takes years of living in the real world before it comes back around where you go, Hey, you know what? This is actually bullshit. It's like a process that has to take place.

But do you think they're still being taught this? Yes.

It's unquestionably without a doubt they are being taught this.

Because so much of DEI and all the stuff that they're dismantling is basically an entire industry that was created for all of these people with these useless degrees and nonsense education to have a job.

They got all the way to Harvard, the top of Harvard. Yeah. Yeah, which is wild. As a plagiarist, got to be the President of Harvard. It didn't matter if it made sense, it mattered if it fit the narrative.

I think this election, too, I was like, I don't know, this could go badly when I put out that. I put out that I was voting. I'm like, Well, I could whatever. You can get canceled. Maybe, but I had to be honest. But I still... I mean, one of the clips that came from the show is when we were talking about there being a red wave, and it was right before the mid terms, and people for years were like, Oh, guess you were wrong about that. And it's like, we weren't really wrong. We were perceiving something that was happening. I think it just happened in the general. It didn't happen in the midterms. You had people who... People were still coming out of COVID, by the way. Way less people vote in the midterms. And you had people trying to get their lives back together after being locked up for two years or whatever. They were just stumbling out of the COVID years. Their kids couldn't talk.

So Yeah, we were right. We're defending ourselves. We were right. We were just a little off in timeline.

No, we were wrong about that for sure. But I do think- But we were right about the general.

Well, I think- That red wave happened.

It's been something I think for all the shit that lots of people get, there has been wave after wave after wave of people leaving the Democratic Party. I'm still seeing it online. Someone just yesterday posted some video and it was like, I'm done with you. I was like, How are you guys still shedding people?

How are you still- They're going to keep shedding people. They're not going to correct course. This is a Buffalo drop. Do you know those Buffalo jumps? No. You know what? The Native Americans used to... One of the ways to hunt Buffalo was to get them to the edge of a cliff and just run at them, and they just fall off the other edge of the cliff. Then people be waiting on the bottom, and they butcher them and eat them.

Okay.

Where in that pile of Buffalo.

We're all being run off the cliff.

Yeah. They're going to go off the cliff. There's no way they're not. They're not course-correcting at all. They're saying stupid shit. It's all nonsense. Their understanding of social media and the dynamics that you set up by having completely state-controlled mainstream media where they only said the narratives that you guys wanted. They all said it in step so you could watch different programs, repeat the exact same words, the exact same phrases. We know they got talking points. We don't trust you anymore. We don't trust the New York Times. We don't trust the Washington Post. We don't trust CNN or any other MSNBC, where they're all full with propaganda. That's why the internet rose. It's not because there was some a fucking right-wing conspiracy and heavily funded. No, you guys suck. You guys fucking suck. You're not real people. Nobody wants to hang out with Brian Colter. You know what I'm saying? None of these fucking people are people that people can actually relate to and like.

So much of it was bullshit, too. I didn't really understand media when I first came into media. I had already been in Hollywood and comedy and then ended up in media. One of the first parties I was ever exposed to, it was the height of a lot of this 2018, and it was very divided, and people were in true like, Oh, Trump is going to ruin the world. There was a Daily Beast Party, and Ann Colter was there and people were all just hanging out. I'm like, These people don't fucking believe anything they're saying. I mean, Ann probably does, but these guys don't. Then I would see this over and over again where people would fight and then they'd get off and they'd I'll be like, see you at the playdate. It's like, Oh. There was something very strange to me about that where so much- Do you remember that old cartoon where there was the sheepdog and the coyote and they would say hi to each other in the morning and punch in, and then they would fuck each other up all day. Yeah, that's how it felt. That's exactly- Morning, Ralph.

Morning, Sam. That's exactly how it felt. Well, that's what it's really like. It's pro-wrestling. That's one of the things that Kamala Harris said after her debate with Joe Biden, where she believed Joe Biden's accuser that he had sexually assaulted some woman. Remember that? She said she believed it, this and that. Then they asked her about it on Colbert. She's like, It was a debate. It was a debate. They're laughing, of course. It's just a debate. Now you're his fucking vice president. This is so nuts. So you said you think the guy's a rapist, and now you think he's awesome to run the country, and you're so proud of him. We did it, Joe. This is crazy. We can't trust you if you're willing to do that for a debate. Yeah. Your debate should be what you really think. You should say, I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. It's a very troubling accusation, but of course, I don't know what happened. For you to say that you believe it just because you want to win. Now, all of a sudden, I have to say, Well, I don't know if I can trust you about foreign policy.

I don't know if I can trust you about the economy. I don't know if I can trust you about censorship and the need for a social credit score, all these different things. What is the real person behind these actions? Are you entirely motivated by money and influence? Because that seems like a lot of them.

It's upsetting to me, though, because even though it's You can see it's like wrestling, and some of these people are full of shit, and they're all buddies and whatever, hanging out at Park City or hanging out wherever they hang out. The real people are... I see how broken some of The Elon thing recently, really, it was like a whole new wave of people who are like, I don't know if I can talk to you. I managed to survive eight years of the culture war, still maintaining pretty okay relationships with even the most staunch liberals in my life. The Elon thing, for some reason, the hand gesture- Oh, the Hitler thing? Yeah. It put people over the edge, and they were like, I don't know if I can be friends with a Nazi apologist. I'm like, How am I made it this far? But I legitimately feel bad because the media has told these people that this was literally Hitler for many, many years. Then he's up there shaking hands with Obama, Joe Biden, they're all up there. It's a peaceful transfer of power. Like, if this... Have you seen the Kama one?

They're very confused. Have you seen the Kama one doing the Heil Hitler? No. You haven't seen it? I'll send it to you, Jamie, if you haven't seen it. Look, a lot of people do that gesture. That gesture is from my heart to you. That's what it is. It's just you really shouldn't do that if you're standing on a stage and you have an angry look in your face.

I was joking, too. Like, what if it was just this autism and he did it and then in his brain, he's like, oh, shit, that looked like a Nazi salute. And then he did it. If I do it again, then it won't. And then it's just this cascading freak out.

And he's like, from my heart, I love you. Apple made it real weird finding things now. They keep messing with this fucking interfaced.

You're like, I can't search Kamala Nazi salute on Apple anymore.

I know I have it, and I know it's good. Let me find it, you fuckheads.

I haven't seen it.

Oh, it's wonderful.

Because usually it's just a picture and then they show the context, and it's not really actually that.

No, this is great. Of course, it's not that. Of course, the context is not that. But here, I'm sorry, this is AOC.

Have you seen this one? I haven't seen this one.

Give me the volume. Everybody does that Everybody does. Tim Walsh did that move. Kamal Harris did that move. They all did that move.

Yeah. I mean, when you're announcing people to a stage- Thank you.

I love you.

But here's the problem. I just wrote a column about this. When it is the boy who as Nazi, the nerds who cry Nazi for all these years, it does end up running cover for Nazis. Oh, 100 %.

That's part of the real problem. There was one actual real Nazi that I was following for a while on Twitter. I didn't even have to follow them. I clicked on the links a bunch of times, and then it just started showing up on my feed. I'm like, Okay, good. Now I don't have to follow you. I could see this insanity. It was crazy.

Well, that's why I love free speech because you're like, I would rather see this.

Look, X has porn. Hardcore porn.

Oh, I know.

I mean, it has everything.

You have to watch it on X now because you can't watch it on...

You can't get a porno.

No.

It's all very weird.

Thank you, Elon.

It's all very, very, very weird. No, it is. It's a very, very strange time for people to try to figure out what's real and what's not. And you're not going to get a good roadmap from your leaders. You're just not.

And I don't think it's... We're not... I've been joking. We are the fake news We're the fake news now.

We said that today because that was the video, right?

Oh, yeah. The fake video. Oh, yeah.

There was the video. Yeah, you wrote, We are the fake news now.

Because that was fake news.

Because that was fake news.

We're just as susceptible to sharing stuff that's not true. I think there's a big difference between a massive organization being influenced with talking points by a government and corporations to present something versus an idiot sharing propaganda without knowing it. But I do wonder how you have... I was talking to someone like, Is there a way to... I think you have to just pause. I assume everything is fake. That's my default. I think you start from there and then you try and do your detective work.

Yeah. This is my thing. Oh, my God. Is that real? That doesn't seem real. No. Let me see if that's real. And then I check. Yeah. But that's something over time. Before, when I was younger, I'd be like, I want that to be real, so that's got to be real. Right. That's a problem.

Well, that's how my husband taught me to evaluate everything that I get from the media. He's I look at something and I go, do I want this to be real or not real? And if so, why?

Yes, that's right.

If you start there, you have a chance.

That's me with UFOs. That's my whole UFO take, because clearly, I want them to be real so bad.

I want them to be real so badly.

I got one on my desk here. I want them to be real so bad. But the more I'm walking and look into it, the more I don't believe Really? Yeah, I think a lot of it is horse shit. A lot of it. But also maybe some of it's real.

It's so unsettling to think that we're the only things out there for me that I wanted to... It's like, that can't be, surely.

It doesn't seem like it even makes sense that that's true. So I don't think that that's true. But I do not know if we've been visited. But I think a lot of it is bullshit. I think it's not just bullshit. I think it's probably government-coordinated bullshit. I think there's probably sightings that are mass psyops where they're trying to see how people react to things. I think there's probably crafts that the United States is in possession of that absolutely look like UFOs. I think there's probably propulsion systems that they use for drones that are infinitely more advanced than we currently think the state of the art is. Right.

And so they'd say, oh, it's a UFO, and it's really their technology.

But that doesn't account for the sightings that occurred when it was impossible for that technology to exist. Right. That doesn't take you back to 1950s with Kenneth Arnold, where he saw those flying disks moving through the sky, which is where the term flying saucer came from because it was saucer skipping across the lake.

And what about all the people all over the world who have experienced a similar thing? And Why do all the drawings always look the same? Is that just collective conscious? People have seen one, and then they think that... Or is it... You know how they always look? There's a lot of possibilities.

There's a lot of possibilities. Another possibility is that the world's not real.

And we're in a simulation.

Yeah, That there's something... Maybe not... Maybe saying the world's not real is not the best way to put it.

It makes me so like, I want to crawl out of my skin.

Maybe the best way to put it is that it's not real the way we think it's real. There's real consequences to your actions. There's real physical laws that exist in the experience that you're having as a conscious creature moving through this world. But this world is not totally solid all the time. It's solid when you interact with it. The rest of it is vague and weird and malleable, and that it's constantly changing, and that you wake and sleep and wake and sleep and assume that every time you wake up, you're in the same exact area, the same space, the environment looks the same. But it might be a completely different dimension. There might be intertwined realities that are constantly experiencing itself over and over and over again. Then there also might be other dimensions that higher beings have the capability of traversing that we don't. And that all these things are happening simultaneously with the actual creation of an artificial reality.

It seems so real. Which is happening, too.

It seems so real. Yeah, it all seems so real, but it also seems fake, right?

Well, more and more.

I'm sure you know the whole Barron Trump story, the ancient books that talked about a guy named Elon is going to go to Mars. No. You never saw about that? No. It is so crazy that even Elon saw that. He was like, Is this real? How is this real? Was it from 1853?

Why does this have to do with Barron Trump?

Because it's about a guy named Barron Trump, and his guru is named Dawn. Oh. What? Yeah. His mentor is named Dawn.

I feel like I saw something like this, and I was like, this.

Barron Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey.

What is this? It's like an old- It's a book from- Who wrote it?

It is from- 1893. Nearly forgotten, Barron Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey blends the science fiction and fantasy in a story told by little Barron Trump, an aristocrat boy, There you go, that's what he is, who sets out from Castle Trump, which is where he lives, to discover a world within a world that he read about in a 15th century manuscript, celebrated thinker and philosophy. He learned Spaniard Dawn from. Dawn. His guy Dawn. What? Yeah. Join Barron Trump and his faithful dog and companion, Bolger. They set off a Northern Russian search for a portal, so it's subterráne. But there's also the other thing, they go back to Castle Trump. There's the other thing about Wernher von Braun. So Wernher von Braun, who was the head of NASA, wrote a novel, a fictional novel, about a guy named Elon that takes us to Mars. Yeah, so there's parts of reality that don't seem real. Yeah. They seem like a wink, like an Easter egg, like someone is winking at you through the simulation.

I'm just like an extra in the simulation. You're a part of it.

It's your version of it that you're going through. You are the person who's experiencing your world. I just don't know if your world and my world are exactly the same.

Right.

I think they're bubbles. I think they're bubbles. And I think the way you interface with the world changes what your bubble consists of.

Okay.

Yeah. And I think it's all very... It's very weird. I don't think it's as simple as that rancher lady thinks when she gets up and feeds her chickens. I think that's her world. That's her world. But I think the universe itself and how we interact consciously with it and all the things around us, I think it's squirly. I think it's real squirly. And I think every now and then the universe shows us something like this fucking Wernher von Braun book where you go, What? Even the name Elon and Mars, what are the fucking odds? Then it turns out that Elon was actually named by his father when his father read that book? Oh, okay. But no, even crazier. What is the odds? Your son is going to be the guy who goes to fucking Mars.

My daughter is obsessed with Mars, and we always know all the planets, and it's weird. I have no obsession with Mars, but she's obsessed with the stars, the planet. She can point them out at night. She's like, That's Jupiter, that's Mars, blah, blah, blah. We asked her one day, we said, Which planet do humans live on? She said, Earth and Mars. I was like, maybe.

Well, you saw the square? Yeah. That square on Mars from that photo. Is that real? Yes, that's real. That's a real photo. That's a real image. It's a real satellite image of Mars where you see a square structure. By the way, it's right down the street. It's like a hike away from Cydonia the face on Mars. So it's a hike away from that thing that they saw from the... God, I want to say it was like the 1970s. They sent a satellite to Mars to take photographs of the surface, and they saw this thing that looked like a face. The face on Mars, though, it seems like what that is is just light with shitty resolution, and it looked like a face. What's interesting more about the face on Mars, so that's the original image. See, the problem with that is, it's not clear enough. It could be anything. Now, go to the modern images of the face on Mars. You could see them right there. It's right below. See the slide right there where you just were. Okay, that's creepy. To the right. Yeah, right there. Click on that. So that's what it actually looks like.

So you could see how that just looks like a mountain. But what's interesting is the shape of it. The shape of it is weird. How it curves at the bottom and it's equal sided, and it goes up to the top and it has right angle turns. So that image of what that thing is, where that's located is just a small hike away from this immense square that they've discovered. That's 200. They don't know exactly how big it is, but the rough estimate is somewhere around 200 meters across.

What do they think it What is it?

It's a structure. That's what I think it is. I don't think it can be anything other than a structure.

What does Elon think it is?

He thought it was wild.

Has he commented on it?

I sent him a text message. I said, imagine if you go up there and you find evidence of a previous civilization. It's like, that is fucking wild. It's wild because that's a real square.

What the? Yeah, that just doesn't seem like that would exist.

It doesn't seem like it's- It doesn't seem like it's possible for it to be a perfect square.

Yeah, that's crazy. I thought this was fake.

No, no, no. No, it's real. It's real. It's very disturbing because that's a fairly high resolution image. And Elon has backed a Mission to Mars to go and check that out. They want to check it out. See, there's an article right there from the Daily Mail, Elon Jack's mission to Mars, where he wants to send something up there to check it out. If you see these images, I don't think there's a chance in hell that that's not made by someone.

That seems very strange.

I don't think that nature makes a square.

No.

I mean- Is that a rectangle or a square? I mean, what is it? It looks... Is it perfectly square? It might be slightly off. Whatever it is, it's four right angle turns that have equal lengths.

Conspiracy theories of in the structure of the Great Pyramid in Egypt.

Conspiracy theorists is a nice way to put it. How about just people looking at it going, what the fuck is that?

Why do they always call them conspiracy theorists?

Because they're assholes. They're assholes, and they work for the Daily Mail. So it's right down the street from that area, which is really crazy.

And what do they think the face is? Just like a giant stuck in the Martian surface?

I don't think anybody really thinks it's a face anymore. If you scroll up and look at that image from July 1976, that image, what's interesting to me is not the face because I don't think it's a face. But what's interesting to me is the shape of the base of it. The shape of the base of it is weird. It's flat on the bottom, equal sided and domed on the top. It looks unnatural. It doesn't mean it's unnatural. There's a lot of shit that looks unnatural in nature that is actually natural, but not squares. That giant square where it looks like building- There was like a civilization there?

Yes.

Well, the thing is, Mars had a real atmosphere. Mars has liquid water. We know it does. At one point in time, they think that Mars was capable of sustaining life. If you imagine the planets over time get further and further away from the sun. If you go back a billion years, how much closer was Mars to the sun? And what was the temperature like? What was the atmosphere like? And we were like, Venus. What was the atmosphere like? Yeah. There's people that believe that the initial civilization escaped Mars and came to Earth.

What about the moons of Jupiter?

Well, there's one. Europa or something? Yeah, Europa, that's solid ice. And they think underneath that, the surface is solid ice. And they think underneath that is liquid water. And liquid water is capable of supporting life. So it's possible, especially when you see those thermal vents that they find in the bottom of the ocean that sustains some form of life. There might be some form of life inside the oceans of Europa.

Are you joking about all this stuff?

No, I'm not joking about Mars. That image, it sounds really crazy.

No, I mean, are you joking about it on state? Sometimes.

I used to have this whole bit about Mars, but there's places in America that you can't live to. Like, go to Death Valley, look around. Sucks, right? No one lives here. That's because it sucks. Get out of here. You're not going to fix that and you're going to go to fix Mars. I mean, I have no desire. The whole planet has no air.

Yeah, no, it's not appealing to me at all. Some people, you watch these documentaries and they're like, I think of Mars like my second home, and I want to go live there. I'm like, It sounds horrible. They also think they're a cat.

I'm also a foxkin.

Space just feels claustrophobic to me, even though it's vast. Until you can build things that make it feel a little more... I just am like, I don't want to get in a tube and go live in a... Do you have Silo?

No, I haven't watched it.

I love Silo. Is it good? I love it. Anything that's post-apocalyptic show where people are living in a wasteland or in some weird... And they're underground in all these silos, and they all have to live, and there's people at the bottom. But it's definitely like, they've never seen the sun, they've never seen the sky. They've had an alternate history that's been told to them.

Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, that's all possible.

Yeah, that's like a post-nuclear world, like when the AI gets smart and nuke us all.

Yeah, but how are we going to get vitamin D down there? It's not good.

They have like plants and trees.

We get vitamin D from plants?

Yeah. I don't know. Now that you burned the boat and all of your stuff, are you just having fun rebuilding? What do you mean? Now that you just did all your material- Oh, stand-up-wise?

Yeah. Oh, stand-up-wise? Yeah, just having fun. Just trying to come up with a new hour and fucking around.

It's so fun.

It's a weird time for comedy. Do you think? Yeah. Well, it's a really good time for comedy.

Well, yeah. I feel like it's a great time.

Yeah. There's so much information. But it's a weird time, too, because the center of comedy has now moved to Texas. That's awesome. So that's weird. That's a crazy thing. That's your fault. And it's also moved online, which is also a crazy thing. The main promotional aspect of comedy is now online.

I heard Jesselnack talking about this, about being like a clips comic. I saw a clip of him going around talking about being a clips comic and how- How ironic. Yeah, it was very meta. But he was talking about how before people would recognize him in the old ways, and now people... He said it's a different level of fame from when he was famous before just for stand-up. Now he's the clips guy. But I think everyone's. That's everyone, right?

It's just a different medium. It's all it is. I've talked to- It's no different than you being on some Comedy Central show. It's just way more impactful.

I've talked to a lot of people about how the videos, the The crowdwork videos have changed crowds. Oh, people want to chime in. Because now, crowds think they're helping you by chiming in. It's some crazy percentage of people who have never been to a comedy show at a comedy show. A very high percentage of people have never been to a comedy show at every comedy show. Isn't that weird? It's quite high.

Interesting, right? So they're accustomed to seeing Matt Ryfe stuff. Like the crowdwork stuff. Yeah.

And so they think they're actually helping you by heckling so that you can get your- I don't think they think they're helping you.

I think they want to be heard.

They want to be a part of it.

That's the way they get in. I'm helping. You just want to chime in. I'm helpful. Yeah. I saw some video clip of some lady losing her shit on some guy in the audience.

Oh, I saw this.

Yeah, it's very weird.

And everyone's like, This is amazing.

It's not really amazing.

I was like, It seems upsetting.

It's also It's also not very well handled. The whole experience is not expertly... There's not a lot of humor in there.

People love it. They're like, Yeah, this is comedy. It's subjective, I guess. Some people look at that and they're like... Well, that's not comedy.

That's just talking People talking. And one person with a microphone in power and one person in the audience is challenging that and give me the microphone and it's, fuck you.

It's wild, the clips thing. The clips are feeding the algorithm. It's And it's such a crazy thing to me.

Well, that's with everything, right? Clips from podcasts are way more popular than the podcast themselves. Yeah. So many clips go viral on X.

Do you think TikTok is going to be banned? No. No? No. They'll keep it?

Yeah. Yeah, I don't think so. The fucking President uses it. I met the fucking CEO of TikTok when I was at the inauguration.

What was that like?

Like being in Satan's balls.

Where?

Just going to the actual fucking- Inauguration? The actual house of government being in the actual buildings where all this stuff gets done. It's very, very strange.

How long are you there?

A couple of days.

And so you went to the... Some of the balls, the balls? Yeah. Was it like hunger games? It's like what?

It's like really rich, entitled people that donated a lot of money. They just jump in front of you to take pictures with you. They don't care who you're talking to. They don't care. Everybody was super pushy. It's all very transactional. Everybody needs to get on your podcast and needs to talk to you about a thing, and you have to get this person. It's like everything's exhausting, and everybody's wealthy. And they're also They spent a lot of money to get there. A lot of those people, they donated a million dollars. Holy shit. There's like tons of thousands of people donated a million dollars.

Just to be there. Just to be there.

And they're all fucking just super enthusiastic because their team just won. And it's the inauguration of the President and Kid Rock's there and everybody's going crazy. And it was fun for a while. It was me and Tony Hinchcliff and Theo Vawn and- Lex? Logan Paul was there.

Oh, yeah, I saw that.

And Jake Paul. And we were all having a good old time. We were laughing and having fun. And then too many people just started swarming us. And then it was just like, you're dealing with 10,000 people in this room and you can't move. You can't go anywhere. And it got crazy. It So you couldn't have a conversation. You had to just try to get out of there.

Was the inauguration moving? Was it...

Did you- Fascinating.

Was it weird to be part of all that pump?

Oh, yeah. It was very weird.

Were you in the main- Oh, I was on the stage.

I was in the fifth row. I was right there.

I was unaware. Yeah, I was like- Looking at Lauren Sanchez's tits. Yeah.

I could have thrown a pebble and hit Hillary Clinton in the head. I They were right there. It was weird. First of all, it's weird watching Bill Clinton walk into a room. He's real. That's him. All the shit that guy's escaped. And there he is right there. Hey, how are you doing? Good to say you. You got emotions. It's weird. It's weird. It's weird seeing those people. It's funny that they let you in there. I know, right?

Whenever I'm in situations like that, I'm like, Why are they letting me in here? They should know better.

I thought I thought that a little, but it's cool. It was weird. You only get to be at one of those maybe once in your life if you're really lucky, especially that one, which was indoors because it was insanely cold outside.

Yeah, that seems like probably better. Oh, yeah.

It was cold as fuck outside, too. Definitely better for security. But it was very cold outside and windy and shit.

Is it weird to be... I don't know. I was looking at all the people up there, and it seems like it's so much I don't know. It seems like it's just like, is everyone kissing the ring? Does it feel like... You know what I mean? Is it like a... I don't know. Does it feel gross or was it cool?

Well, it feels strange. It feels strange that it's real. It also feels strange that we're standing up because there's a standing ovation every 15 seconds. We're going to turn the Gulf of Mexico in the Gulf of America We're all standing up. Fuck, yeah, we're going to do that. It was fun watching George Bush. George Bush was the only guy clapping. He was having a good time. All the other presidents looked deeply disturbed. Kamala Harris had this, this motherfucker look on her face the entire time. She sat there like this the entire time.

Well, I mean- Very upset. Obviously.

Well, also, he's talking about how bad they sucked.

And she lost.

And they're right there.

And she has to sit there.

And she's sitting right next to Biden.

Who's not there. Looks...

He's just gone. Yeah. Yeah. And then behind them is Obama and George W.

That's wild, man. I was like, I hope there's like a, what's that called when there's the extra person or whatever, the designated survivor. I'm like, there's a lot of people. You could really fuck America up right now. One bomb. Yeah.

I think they're aware of that. I think there's probably steps taken to make sure that the skies are clear. Yeah. But it's very strange, but also exciting because if he really does get to do all this stuff, if we really do see radical change, it seems like that's what's happening. If Bobby Kennedy really does get in, and if Tulsi Gabbard really does get in, this is a crazy time. This is like an unprecedented cabinet of people that are unified and all know each other. They're all friends.

And it's also by part. Rfk Jr. He brought so many people over. I know so many people who were not going to vote for Trump, but then when he brought RFK Jr. Over, they were like, All right. I mean, if he's there, and Tulsi, too. They were libs. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. That must have been pretty It's bizarre.

It's bizarre.

It seemed like... I was like, That must be so surreal to be there, because it was surreal to watch it just like when you think about the fact that he nearly got killed. Like the whole sequence of events that led to that moment. The debate where he just fell apart. It just was surreal to watch. So I was wondering, that must be pretty bonkers to be there. He should have seen Biden, his face the entire time.

He looked upset. Almost like he was going to cry at one point in time. He looked so upset. I think he thinks he could have won.

Do you have any fears about it? What about the rivier?

Oh, the Gaza thing?

The Riviera.

Riviera of the Middle East.

You did such a good impression.

I thought that could. What's the alternative to that happening? They're saying no US military will be there. The United States is going to clean it up, build it, give it to the Palestinians, make it safe, get rid of Hamas. The thing is, what Palestinians want is a state. They want their own state, and this is a step away from that. Now, it'll be that section of that area is now controlled by the United States.

What the fuck? And Greenland. Don't forget Greenland.

The question is, what's the better option? Give it to Hamas? What's the better option? Give it to the Palestinians, and they give it to the Islamic state? Who gets it?

I'm not smart enough for any of this.

Also, how did you let it happen in the first place? How did this administration let them just bomb the fucking shit out of all those people and blow up an entire city to the point where you You could even feasibly say that you would rebuild it. Because it's not like before this had happened, if anybody had ever said the United States is going to go into to to Gaza and completely rebuild it and make it the United States, everybody was like, fuck you. You need to give that to Palestine. But once you blow it up, you're like, well, I guess there's nothing left. People are pushing back against it. A lot of people are upset, but not as upset as they would if they didn't blow it up.

Oh, that's weird.

Yeah, because it's weird. Yeah, I It's horrible. And we've just accepted the fact that this is what Israel did. For 1,200 people and 250 hostages, they killed 60,000 people.

Is that the actual number? Who knows? Or is that the last number?

I don't know what the number is. What's the current number of people that are dead in Gaza right now?

It's such a weird thing, too, because Israel, I feel like, has to not win a war, which is a weird thing, where they have to... They're in a position where they- They already won the war.

I mean, what war? It's one army. There's one army and some terrorists. It's like Bill Hicks joke about Iraq. It's only a war when there's two armies fighting. They're like, Whoa, Bill, Iraq's the fourth largest army. He goes, Yeah, well, after the top two is a huge drop off, he's like, The Salvation Army is number three.

I don't want there to be war. I think most people agree on that.

Of course. But also, we don't live in Israel, right? We don't have to live with the Iron Dome because missiles are being shot into your city, and you watch them explode up in the sky because your military has these rockets that shoot up in the sky in missiles and take these fucking missiles out. Yeah.

I think about if it was my daughter that was in some tunnel, I would be like, there would be no length. Well, that's- I know that's very- Well, this This is the theory. He's selfish of me, but on a personal level, I'm like, I can't even imagine how I would feel in that situation as a parent. Of course.

Well, that's the deepest conspiracy theory about why it happened in the first place. It's because Netanyahu was losing hour and people were protesting against him in the streets. And what better way to get everybody on your side than to allow an attack to take place? That's the darkest of the false flag conspiracy theories.

I have a lot of people that I know who now think 9/11 was an inside job after October seventh. Oh, Jesus. Isn't that crazy? They're like, well, if they would do it here, they would do it. Why wouldn't they do it in America? It's been this reverse leap.

Yeah. Well, anytime you have a big tragedy like 9/11, you're always going to have a bunch of wild theories. But some of them are interesting. You're supposed to dismiss them all because they're conspiracy theories. But Tower 7 is like, explain that.

I can't. I have people in my life who are very much like, I think, truthers, I think about this.

That's a weird one. That's a weird one.

What's the conspiracy around Tower 7? How did it? Why did it- It collapses like a controlled demolition completely into its base.

No building has ever done that before without being a controlled demolition. It doesn't have all the signature aspects of a controlled demolition. If you ever watch when they blow up one of them Vegas casinos, super obvious. It goes bang, bang, bang, bang, bang to do that without having it the way the casinos do it? Is there only one way to have a controlled demolition of a building? Or is it possible that just immense diesel fires weaken the structure uniformly in such a weird way that it collapsed exactly like a controlled demolition, but it's just the result of this? It's just a coincidence. Yeah, they had diesel generators in the basement of that thing, and the whole fucking inside of it was on fire. So when you see it on the outside, you only seeing a little bit of fire and some holes, but the entire inside of it was in flames.

We're living in a simulation.

Maybe that. Maybe that's another wink. Maybe that's another fucking- We didn't have social media, though.

Thank God. Right. During that. Can you imagine?

No, but we did have plenty of people that were questioning once they saw it on television because you saw it on TV and you're like, What is that? How does it do that? That wasn't even hit by a plane.

Do you remember seeing the skyline the first time you went to New York?

Oh, without the Twin Towers? I don't think I actually saw it. I took it- I went back in 2001. I was there in 2001. Yeah. Maybe 2002. It was probably a couple of months after September 11th.

I took a train in November in. And because I took the train in, I always just take this train in from Rhode Island where I was And it was so jarring seeing... They were so part of that. They were so huge. Yeah. And just part... You just took it for granted. That was the landscape. And I'll never forget it, how jarring it was.

I thought it was It's weird, too, that when they rebuilt it, they didn't make it as tall.

Why didn't they?

I don't know. It's only one building now. It's not two. I know. And it's not as tall. It's pretty tall, but they didn't get crazy. They were like, We're going to make the biggest fucking building the world's ever seen.

He was like a middle finger to the world.

If Trump was there, he'd be like, We're going to have two buildings on the side and one right up your ass. It's like, Fuck you. It looks like that. It is It's smaller. Smaller than the original buildings.

I do wonder. I'm so curious about what it's going to be like for our kids.

Yeah, that's what it looks like now. Yeah.

Is it the tallest building in US?

Yeah, but it's not as tall, right? I don't know what the high was. I think it's shorter. No, if it's shorter, then it's still the tallest- The World Trade Center wasn't the tallest building. No, not in the world.

No, in the US, even. Oh, it wasn't? The Sears Tower was bigger.

Really?

Yeah, 100%.

Where's Where's the Sears Tower?

Chicago.

That's taller than the World Trade Center? It was. Whoa. Now, this is the taller. I didn't know that.

The Sears Tower was the tallest building in the world for a while.

So the Twin Towers were taller than the Sears Tower?

They were shorter.

It was shorter.

I don't know why you're saying that, I guess.

Oh, it's the same. It has the same name as the North Tower of the original. How tall is it? It is shorter, though, right? Isn't it?

I don't know that. So Willis Tower was the tallest one.

I remember people being upset when they were rebuilding it because it wasn't going to be as tall. 1776. So 110 stories was the original one, and it was The tower was 1,350 feet high. How tall is the one now? 1776. So it's taller? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Wait a minute. Really? I don't... Can I see the image again? I I don't know where else you want me to go with this. No, no, no. Is it because they cheat with that big pole at the top?

They do that with all of them. The other one had a big pole on top, too.

But isn't that to stop lightning bolts? Some of it.

Some of it's antenna stuff.

Some of it's to talk to aliens. Some of it's self tower. Okay, I'm wrong. I thought it was shorter. Maybe what they were saying is it's smaller because there's only one instead of two.

The spire makes it 1776. The spire.

Yeah, how tall is that fucking spire?

I had that video, too. The spire of the World Trade Center. I never saw this. They're saying that's what made Tower 7 fall. It made a gash.

What? What made a gash?

The spire on the tower here fell and made a gash down the side and started a fire here. And Tower 7. I've never seen this video.

Interesting.

I was just looking through it to see what- Well, that's one thing with the video that we saw.

Oh, look at that. Interesting.

I have photos of what that... I don't think they have an actual video of that happening.

Oh, it fell and fucked up the building. But still, still, why didn't it just fall into that side? Why does it compress into its base? The way it collapsed, it's like I've never seen anybody dramatically describe it. But one thing that people should know is that the top of it collapsed before the whole thing collapsed. There was this piece on the top, so the roof caved in first. There's a smaller structure on top top of the roof that imploded and went through the base, and then the whole thing went under. So it wasn't like it all went in one shot. The top of it had already collapsed and went through.

God, that was such a weird time in America. I was thinking about how just catatonic I was on the couch recently. Just that whole week afterwards. Just nobody...

I know.

Because it's weird. I have family members who have kids, and their kids are now They were born right around that time. They were one, two years old. They've grown up. They don't remember what it was like before that. I don't know. I feel like the world... I have a friend, and he's like, Everything went to shit after 9/11. Everything just got shittier.

Well, everything did go to shit because that's when they passed the Patriot Act. Yeah. And that's when the government really got it hooked into your information. Clarification here.

New one, 1776, 541 meters tall. Old one with the spire was 1730, but it was 1368 without the spire.

Okay.

The spire, so without the antenna of the building, it was 417 meters tall. So I think you were close. Okay. That's what you were saying right there.

So it's not much different, though. I thought it was a lot different, like 10 stories or some shit. So it's 104 floors. And four basement floors. And the other one was 110 floors.

And I don't know how many basement floors.

I don't know. Also, it's like, how tall are the floors? I hope this one doesn't- Do you think this administration is going to try and get rid of the Patriot Act? No. No. Why would they do that? I think they have those tools and power to actually They'll use it as an excuse to go get terrorists.

Yeah, but haven't we all wanted to get rid of it for a long time?

Yeah. Well, then they have the Patriot Act, too, which is even more invasive.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But people, that seems like a bipartisan things somebody could get behind. Maybe.

But the real neocons will come out and say that weakens us against our enemies. We need this power to be able to find terrorists and to be able to search out. I mean, that was one of the things that the Obama administration, when they passed the NDAA, we're not going to do it. We're not going to just detain people indefinitely. We wouldn't do it. But the problem is you're given the law. That law is now in books, and now the next person, what if it's a psycho? And the person after that, what if it's a psycho?

Right.

Now you've given them power to become a dictator. Right. And go after their political enemies, which normal people won't do, right? You guys don't do that, right?

I mean, it's going to be a wild four years, I think, because I did think that... I figured I thought maybe that people would understand that they were wrong and that maybe they'd gone too far. And it seems like hysteria.

I don't think people learn that good. I think people learn by having their lives ruined and getting really angry, and then they change course. But I think the people that are still comfortable and still working in these environments that still cling to these ideas, they're going to double down and wear a pussy hat and fucking paint their hair blue and protest in the streets.

I thought it passed all this. It It's so weird because I was thinking about how I've now been 10 years in the culture wars, which is not... I mean, I stumbled into them.

Are you a sergeant now? What are you? I don't know.

Are you a general? I don't know what I am. But it has been a weird decade to be... I didn't want to... I think so many normies are like me. They just got forced into being in them. It wasn't like I wanted to... I was like a drunk waitress who just wanted to tell jokes. And then I started writing for Playboy, and next thing I know, I'm voting for Trump.

Well, As a drunk waitress, you're one of us. You're a human. And humans, there's a lot of people that have opinions and ideas on things. They're just not good at articulating it, or they never learned how to articulate it. But everybody does what we do, or everybody can do what we do. They do it with their friends. They talk with their friends. They bullshit about stuff. It's just a process of putting it out there.

I've had some weird YouTube strikes that I'd say, yes, it's easy to do, except I've had to play 10 years of a game of out running sensors and like, Patreon. Okay, we're there. And then we've got to get off there because I don't want to put all my eggs in that basket in case they go bonkers and shut it down. And I feel like a lot of people in this space have been for a decade out. We're like, How are we going to... We got the dumbest strike on an old ad of ours, and it was something that we said. And then you have to go to You've got to go to class and get reeducated.

Jamie got reeducated. What? Didn't you, Jamie? You feel better right now, right? What? You feel smarter? No, you got reeducated by YouTube.

What did you get reeducated for?

Which part of YouTube?

All of it. You got reeducated. Sure, I guess. Didn't you? When we had a strike, you had to do the little classes. Oh, that's what you're talking about.

Oh, yeah.

He's like, what reeducation?

He got reeducated.

He's different now. What far? He's learned?

He's different now. Because we told factual information about COVID-19.

And so you got a strike?

Yeah, it was because it was a long time ago.

But ours is weird because it was a very old episode, so they must be trolling.

I don't know what they're doing. They're probably just using their algorithm and going after everything.

Ours, literally, we said, think for yourself and come to your own conclusions. Oh, that's dangerous. That was the ad. It wasn't even on our podcast. It was an ad we were doing for someone else's podcast.

I shouldn't give that advice out. People shouldn't be doing that.

But this is why it's hard for people to just say what I want- Well, what do you think is going to happen when you're looking at all this crazy shit right now with Doge and the uncovering of USAID and this dismantling of this bizarre left wing ecosystem that's pretty much What do you see is going to happen with the rest of the country? I mean, look, there are a lot of people who did not vote for Trump. He won, and yes, he won every swing state. Half the country is a lot of people. Yeah, it's a lot of people, and I'm not sure how many of them... I have a couple of questions. How many people didn't vote for Trump and wanted to and are secretly glad he won? I bet there's a pretty significant number of those people who either didn't vote or didn't vote for but wanted him to win anyway.

Ari says that. Ari says that New York City is relaxed. It's like everybody was relaxed after the election. Even the liberals are like, whew.

Yeah, thank God. They're like, Wooo.

Yeah. Like, Thank you, God, you saved me for myself.

Yeah, exactly. Because God doing for us what we can't do for ourselves. Yeah. So there's that, I wonder. But then I do wonder how many of the people are... What I worry about is how much mental... This is where I get mad at the media for presenting this. Like, this like, This is Hitler, having it notched up to 11 for the past eight years. And now you've got this... Because he was put in... It's almost like that energy has been transferred to Elon now. Now, do you see the Elon protests? They're protesting Elon. They're literally standing out there with signs that say, Arrest Elon Musk.

Listen, I guarantee it's organized. I guarantee it's organized by the same people that are going to lose a shitload of money based on all these discoveries at Doge. There's no way they're not. If you look at what Doge is uncovering, what they're uncovering with this USAID stuff, a lot of that stuff was organizing through NGOs protests. They organized the attempt at getting Trump impeached.

I thought you were going to say killed. They organized the impeachment. They organized the impeachment.

They also spent USAID spent 50 million dollars on the lab that invented coronavirus. Right. Yeah. There's a lot of money involved in this not working. When you have a lot of money involved, you're going to have organized protests. When you see protests, we all want to think of protests like the 1960s. Yeah, fight the war, man. It's like organic peace, love, and hippie shit. But that's not what this is. What this is is organized, funded protests where someone is spending a lot of money and they're mobilizing other NGOs. They're using their access to these mailing lists and all these different things. They're putting these things together.

Yeah, but do you think that the average liberal person, do you think that they're going to wake up and come around? Or do you think that they're going to be in agony for four years and be- What if it works?

What if the world gets safer, the country gets safer, the economy improves, and they don't attack civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, all these things that everybody's worried about. Then at the end of it, you realize, Hey, maybe I was wrong.

I mean, that's my question, though. Are they capable of that self-reflection.

What we're saying they is if it's one different... Like one person.

No, I mean...

There's so many different people in they.

Agreed. When I say they, I mean people who have bought into the idea that this person is going to make everything worse and we're going to slip into a fascist technocracy?

Some of them. Some of them are going to slip right into it. Some of them are going to wake up and come around. It's a test. It's a test of character. It's a test of objectivity. It's a test of introspection. There's a lot of things that are going to happen where people are going to have to wonder, what was I rooting for? When I was rooting for this progressive liberal government, what was I actually rooting for? Was I rooting for war mongers who were making insane amounts of profit by funding overseas wars? What was I rooting for? Was I rooting for a basic theft of our tax dollars that's gone to all these completely useless endeavors that were only set up as ways to pilfer money?

Or the fall of America. This is a weird thing to hate your own country so much that you wanted to fall or the dismantling of the West as we know it. I think there is a feeling that Elon might have saved the West.

Yeah, I think he did.

I feel like at least he's trying to.

I think he did. I think he did, but just by buying X.

But isn't it funny that he got forced into it? I think there's something ironic.

Well, funny because he was trying to get it at a lower price because he knew that they were bullshitting about the amount of bots.

Well, and then they came out yesterday, and now it's profitable. There's a whole article about how he turned it around. Of course, it's going to be profitable. He's smarter than you. He is smarter. He also knows we are all tapped in. Oh, I can't stop it. I've always had a Twitter addiction. It's the thing that replaced my drinking and smoking weed. When I quit that, I went right to Twitter. I was like, Elon knows none of these motherfuckers, even when they go to Blue Sky, they've all got secret accounts in they're lurking on Twitter still or X still or whatever.

You can't live in that echo chamber, that Blue Sky echo chamber. You can't even go on there and say there's only two genders. If you go on there and say there's two genders, they ban you immediately.

They were eating themselves within two days over there, though.

But that's what That's what happens. That's happened with Gab, too, right? Yeah. And I think some of that is not even real because I personally know comics who go on Blue Sky and just say insane leftist stuff, just like the most preposterous thing, like maybe Duncan would do. I'm not saying Duncan does it, but he might do it. But I know comics that do that just to see the reaction how people agree with them. Like, insane stuff. Oh, okay. Like my toddler, I could tell when my toddler was trans, when they were three days old.

And people agree with them. Oh, yeah.

Jump right in.

Don't you think we're all in echo chambers, though? Like you said? How do you stay outside of yours? Drugs.

Oh, that's true. No, I'm kidding. You just got to be recognized like you're thinking. You have to have a process.

What's your process? I live by the Joe Rogan School of Internetting.

How's that?

I take all your advice. I don't read the comments and I post and ghost. That's good. I don't get in there and...

That's good. I definitely do that. And then I I think of like, what do I really think about something and why do I think about it that way? And I try to go, is it because it's self-serving? Is it because I've said it in the past that I want to be right? What is it? What makes me believe what I believe? And then you have to do a deep dive and all the goddamn arguments back and forth to figure out who's right and all the logic and see people ignoring certain core facts. This is the most fascinating about this USAID thing to me is how people on the left are completely ignoring all the rampant obvious corruption and conflicts of interest in the government funding non-government organizations that in turn fund the government. That's so crazy. And anybody that doesn't think that's crazy, it's like, what do you love money influencing everything in your daily life? Don't you think that maybe we have a problem in that we have a huge deficit? And if part of our huge deficit, we're spending fucking billions of dollars every year on horse shit?

Yeah. I mean, that is my issue with people being like, see, it is the political thing isn't right, which is true. It's important to be accurate. But it's also like, yeah, but this money shouldn't be spent this way. No. So just because this thing is maybe not true, you're pointing to this one thing that could be people are misrepresenting. But there's a much bigger problem. You seem to want to just sweep under the rug and say, oh, you guys are just crazy for noticing all these connections. But didn't they make them stop or something? Did they freeze their ability to- Yeah, they say it's frozen. These kids are nuts. That guy who found the scroll, how to read the scroll from Pompei.

Burnt scrolls from Pompei, yeah, using AI. Yeah. No, they're Wizards. That's the people that you want digging into this stuff. And that's why Elon got them. He knows what the fuck he's doing. It's all very strange because you're dealing with so many things that are happening at the same time. You have this technology that was never available before that is allowing people to freely express themselves online. Then you have this maniac billionaire who buys the biggest one and makes it the Wild West again. Then you have government being exposed for what it is. You have all these fucking NGOs, this web. We talked about it yesterday, this web of 55,000 different NGOs that were supporting all these liberal causes that were all completely intertwined. They had to use software to find that and to figure out. They're finding out that this is this complicated propaganda network that existed. Look, that's not good. No. That's not good for anybody, left or right, because it's money. It's just money being used in a way.

Mondered.

Not only that, here's the thing. People say the $10 billion. It's only $10 billion, that shit. What about the fucking people in Maui? That could have been fixed with $5 billion. The government could have said, We are going to rebuild those people's homes to the exact state and even better than where they were before. It's going to cost us $5 billion. All the money that we're sending over to Ukraine, all the money that we send to Israel, all the money we send to all these different organizations that work with USAID in the tune of billions and billions of billions of dollars. They could have done that. Instead of doing that, they're telling us that what we have to do is continue to fund all these programs in all these other countries that just so conveniently have a whole staff of people that's making a a great wage and their political capital is bet on all this stuff, and it all is intertwined with these NGOs and all this money they're getting. This is the thing. We have to go and help these people. We're going to starve. They're going to do this, they're going to do that.

What about America?

What about our tax dollars going into a safety net to help people from one of the worst wildfires in history? Or North Carolina.

Or North Carolina. Exactly the same thing. Apparently, none of those people have gotten any money in North Carolina.

No, and they're like, sleeping in freaking tents in the freezing cold. Exactly.

All that could have been addressed, too. The same way we address problems in other countries. So if you have this amazing slush fund that USAID is, and it's not being applied at all to the problems of America, why would you think people would support it?

Yeah.

Why would we support it with our tax dollars when we know that the country is massively in debt?

Well, and it's like, I appreciate that there are so many problems. I think people, I do I feel like for the first time ever, there is an actual transfer of power. Every single election through my lifetime, there's been all the normal fighting between the two parties, and then the election happens and one party wins and then nothing changes. You just keep sliding and sliding and sliding and sliding. Everybody says they're going to do something and no one does anything. Then you have fucking Elon come in like a wrecking ball and a very motivated and Trump who seems organized this time, and they actually feel like they're making changes. Changes that, by the way, American people want.

The border. They fixed the border overnight.

My friend Max Meyer was saying, he's a very smart guy. He was saying no one with any numerical ability has ever looked into Medicare and Medicaid fraud, ever.

That's where they're cracking into next.

There's a A lot of money there that is provider-side fraud, where it's just inflated.

Wasn't that Sunny Hoston's husband? Isn't he involved in a RICO lawsuit? Oh, I don't know.

About insurance fraud? The VU person? .

Yeah. Oh, I have no idea. Her husband got arrested. Oh, really? Yeah. He's one of 200 people charged in some gigantic insurance fraud.

There's a lot of that.

What is that? What's the actual story behind that?

Jamie's looking. Jamie's on it. Yeah, but they can take I mean, you know how complicated it would be to try and untangle that web of where you're inflating things that people have and you're saying this is like a band. You see these things online where it's like a bandaid is $25,000. Like, what?

I'm not going to explain that to me, too, is that when you have a budget, say if you run an organization and it has a budget, you get money from the government and that budget's like $80 million a year, you can't spend $60 because then you're going to get $60 next year. You have to spend all $80. If you don't spend all $80, you don't get it. You got to say, We need 90. We're barely hanging on. And so you have to charge $500,000 for a hammer. And that's literally how they justify their existence is the key. They're not in the business of being frugal and being responsible and making sure that the money is being spent competently. No, they're in the business of keeping their budget coming in. Sonny Host and surgeon husband, Emmanuel, faces solo battle in lawsuit as co-defendants agree to settle. Oh, Jesus. So, okay. Sonny Hostin's surgeon husband has found himself in the hot seating a massive lawsuit accusing nearly 200 health care providers of insurance fraud. Dr. Emmanuel Hostin defiantly called himself the victim of a frivolous smear campaign last month after he was accused of providing fraudulent medical services in exchange for kickbacks in a complaint filed by American transit insurance company in December.

Orthopedic surgeon now finds himself increasingly isolated after the vast majority of the defendants have now offered to settle their cases. Oh, boy. According to a new court filing obtained by dailymail. Com, American transit, which ensures taxi cab taxi company and Ugar lift drivers, announced last Monday more than 141 of the 186 defendants named in the suit have agreed in principle to settle one of the largest RICO cases ever filed in New York. The papers filed by the law firm, Manning Cass, did not specify which defendants offered to settle. Dr. Your hosting has until February 10 to respond to the legal complaint. So it has something to do with drives from the hospital and kickbacks from all this shit.

Yeah, because they're so... That's what they need, though, is these guys who can use this AI technology to get in there and start looking on a massive scale at what all of these... Everything. I mean, they have to look at everything. I think most Americans want this. Yes.

They're being accused of getting kickbacks for performing surgeries and submitting fraudulent bills. Hosted knowingly provided, this is in quotes, knowingly provided fraudulent medical and other health care services, including orthoscopic surgeries. The lawsuit filed on December 17th claims American transit was then billed in exchange for kickbacks and/or other compensation which were disguised as dividends or other cash distributions. I don't know how they know this. I don't want to comment on this. I I don't really understand what this is. This might be bullshit. It might be real. But I do know that doctors- But this happens all the time.

I mean, maybe not this, but there's provider-side fraud that is very well known, and people have been called out for it.

There's a doctor that I was I was watching this whole thing on where he... I think it was 200 people he treated, it might have been more, that did not have cancer, and he gave them chemotherapy. Oh, my God. Yeah. He falsely diagnosed them as having cancer and then treated them for cancer. Yeah, and some of them got really sick and died.

Well, yeah, it's chemo.

Yeah, it's chemo. It's fucking killing you. And it wrecks your health. So even if you survive it, your body is wrecked for a long time afterwards.

Did he do this just for money? For money, yeah. Oh, yeah.

And his argument was this term that they always use, you eat what you kill, and then you have to have a business. You have to keep your business rolling. So his business was making sure that people thought they had cancer and then treating them for cancer. That's dark. Well, that cancer and chemotherapy is one of those weird ones where the doctors profit off of each chemotherapy.

Oh, do they?

Yeah. 34 million dollars in fraudulent. A Detroit area hematologist oncologist, oncologist, was sentenced today to serve 45 years in prison for his role in a health care fraud scheme that included administrating medically unnecessary infusions or injections to, oh, it's 553 individual patients. Holy shit. And submitting to Medicare and private insurance companies approximately $34 million in fraudulent claims.

This is the fucking sickest thing I've ever heard. You tell these people they have cancer? I know, right? And make them get chemo? I know. This is insane. I can't believe I've never heard of this.

Yeah, it's really crazy.

It's like a decade ago. Wow, this is fucking nuts. How did they catch him?

I don't know.

That's wild.

Yeah.

No, that's so sick.

I know people that have told me that they know people that have done surgeries that were necessarily. Yeah, because they- Just for money. They want money.

Well, that's the whole trans care.

Not just that, orthopedic surgeries. I have friends- Back surgeries and stuff. Doctors that won't let someone try stem cells. Oh, wow. That try to deny people stem cells.

So, yeah, the back surgery is weird, too. Because they want to do orthopedic surgery.

Yeah. Well, it can help some people, but it's not the only solution. And there's other ways to fix your back. I always tell people there's a A lot of different ways to fix back issues. I've had back issues. I didn't have surgery. I was told to have surgery. I had a bulging disk in my neck. I was told that I had to have a disectomy. I did not. My neck is perfect. It works great now. How did you fix it? I did Regenoquine, Genekine is... It's like a very advanced form of platelet-rich plasma that you used to have to go to Germany to get. I remember like Payton Manning and Kobe Bryant, those guys, they flew to Germany to get this procedure done. And Dana White did it, too. And then they opened up a place in Santa Monica where you do it in Santa Monica, and I had it done. I had it done on my back. I had it done on my neck. It's amazing. They take your blood, they spin it in a centrifuge. They forget what the exact process they do. And then they pull out this liquid that is the most potent anti-inflammatory inflammation drug that you could ever find.

So this anti-inflammation drug, it's made out of your own blood, so your body doesn't reject it, this process that they do. And then they inject it in the areas around the disks, and the disks all settled, and they right back into place. Wow. Yeah. I had it done on my lower back, I had it done on my upper back, and I had it done on my neck.

See, I think that this is where I'm excited about AI and stuff like that. It would be exciting to have AI cure cancer, which they think that it might be able to do.

Yeah. I saw that Larry Ellison thing. I was like, Yeah, are you making money doing this?

Well, obviously. I don't know if Larry- Is Larry Ellison saying that?

Why are you doing that? Are you a doctor? Why are you doing that? Are you a doctor? Don't you own Lanai? What are you doing?

It seems like it's not outside the realm of possibility that AI would get smart enough to figure this shit out.

100 %. Yeah, it is possible for sure, and it's very hopeful. But I don't know if we should be telling people that it could do that maybe in the future. So invest in my company or whatever the fuck's going on.

I was at this crazy boondoggle and I saw a bunch of these people talk and everybody was clapping, and I was like, this is the scariest shit I've ever heard. And I I think it might have been Sam was talking Altman, and everybody was just like, Yay, let's give them money. And they all just saw money. Everyone sees money here in the gold hills. I mean, we're going to need to build nuclear. We're going to need to power this shit. There's a lot of gold in those hills. And I was in the back with this guy, and I'm like, someone needs to stop it.

It was the beginning of a terminating moment.

It was down my spine. Yeah.

It's going to happen, though.

You can't stop it. No. Unless the grid goes down, or something, unless there is something catastrophic, asteroid hits the Earth, whatever, which I think there might be one coming, there's nothing we can do. The genie's out of the bottle.

Well, not just that. We have to do it because there's other people that are doing it. And if they get a hold of it first, it's over.

That's the race to the bottom.

Is it? I don't know. My friend lived. I mean, if we all have it, and it just eventually works for humanity instead of against us.

I do think that my husband thinks that our daughter will never need to learn how to drive.

Probably.

He's like, She's not going to need... Because I was like, she wants to drive already. She's like, When I'm five, I can drive. I'm like, no. She She is... Having kids is the best. I hate that there was so much rhetoric that I was growing up with about how horrible it is because it is...

It's all by people who don't have kids.

The other morning, I go downstairs stairs. And she's like, I'm like, How are you doing? She's eating her breakfast. She's like, I just need to lay low. I was like, Are we hiding for the mob? What is happening?

They're experimenting with new ways to talk.

They're just so funny. She just says the funniest stuff. She did a whole... My husband sent me a whole thing. She picks up everything. They pick up everything. She was like, I'm going to mothership, and you're going to go to New York. I'm like, Where'd she get the New York accent I'm going to mothership, and you're going to New York to tell jokes. She's telling him all about this. I'm like, How does she pick all this? It's the best thing in the whole world. But yeah, he doesn't think she wants to drive, and he's like, She's not going to need to know how to drive.

Well, she probably will learn how to drive, but it won't be necessary. I think they're going to make the argument that autonomous driving is way safer.

But I think it probably is. Oh, it is? Yeah.

Yeah, I have a auto drive on my Tesla.

But they all have to be autonomous. Yes. It can't be... Exactly. No one's going to be allowed to drive.

That's probably what's going to happen.

That's the only way. They're all going to be communicating with each other.

There'll probably be roads that are set up where you can allow people to drive.

How do you feel about that? I don't know.

I like cars. Yeah, I do, too. So it's not good. I like old cars, too.

I like driving. Yeah, I do. It helps my brain unfurl.

Well, I like machines. I'm into old machines. I like the way they work.

Do you know how to fix cars?

I know how to fix some things, but not really. I mean, I know how to change spark plugs and change oil. Like basics? Yeah, normal stuff. But most cars don't even have spark plugs anymore.

No, it's weird.

Yeah, it's all wild. You open up the back of a Porsche. Look at the engine. You're like, what the fuck is that?

And Teslas only have one gear? I don't understand how that even- Have you ever been in one? No. Oh, dude.

I didn't bring mine today. Oh, wait.

No, I have been in one.

Next time, I have mine. You got to go for a ride. Mine's insane. The new one? Yeah. It goes zero to 60 in 1. 9 seconds. That's nuts.

It's a time issue. How does it do that?

Because it has a thousand horsepower and four-wheel drive and incredible electrical engines that just instantly generate torque and power. It just goes...

That's crazy.

It just takes off. They're amazing. And it also self-driving. It doesn't just self-drive. It changes lanes. It stops for stop signs. It stops for red lights. It turns. It It's incredible. It changes lanes when there's obstructions in front of it.

Can you take your eyes off the... Can you text and stuff? Can you be a passenger?

You could, I guess. People have fallen asleep at the wheel, famously.

But don't they give you strikes or something like that? Tesla itself Well, yeah, supposedly if you're not looking like it's been- That's creepy. Yeah, it's creepy.

Yeah, it's all creepy. But if you want to do it right, that's how you have to do it. You can't just let people take naps and just press play.

But isn't that the point? I want to be in my car typing.

Well, Eventually, you'll be able to do that. Eventually, it won't even have a steering wheel. Eventually, it'll be a pod that you get in and it takes you places.

This reminds me that Silicon Valley episode where the self-driving car drives right into one of the shipping containers and then he's just stuck in a shipping container. I didn't see that. Oh, it That's so good.

I never watched that show.

That show is brilliant.

Yeah, it's weird. But again, if you go back to the people that were on trains and riding horses and you said, one day you're going to be able to get in a car that goes 1. 9 seconds, zero to 60, and it's going to be electric and make no sound. You'll be like, what? Well, one day you're not going to need to steer because steering is why people get fucked up because the cars can't detect other cars around them. They change lanes. People make mistakes. They go forward when they shouldn't. They run red lights. All that's going to end.

So I'm like a half hour out of the city, and every time I drive to and from, almost every time there's an accident. I always see. Sure. The other night I was driving home, actually for mothership, it was like 1: 30 the morning, and there was a guy on the left side of the freeway walking. Yeah. There's no space, by the way. I was like, What is happening right now? No space.

I was like, What is happening right now? People are texting. They're not paying attention.

No, there are trucks behind me. It was nuts. I was like, this guy is either on drugs and crazy or it's like some Jason Bourne situation where he was limping.

He probably broke down and had to walk.

No, he looked crazy.

He Crazy person. Decided to flirt with death.

I mean, Texas is a little... It feels a little unhinged.

Does it? Compared to LA? When was the last time you were back in LA?

No, I mean, I was just there. I was there two days before the fire. People are unhinged.

Yeah. Yeah.

No, I mean, it feels a little wild. And you realize it's not going to get any better. I like the... I'm coming up on two years here.

So what do you mean by wild?

It feels wild to me. It still feels very like the Wild West or Texas. There's just an energy here. Every time I'm down on sixth Street, I'm like, I'm going to catch a stray down here.

Well, sixth Street is wild. Where the club is, that's a wild place.

There's fucking bonkers out there.

Yeah, but that also makes the club exciting.

You might catch a stray while you're waiting.

No, not that, but all the people, the foot traffic. There's an energy on that street.

Yeah, no, I like it. When I even When I'm coming from LA, driving in Texas, I was like, these people are out of their fucking minds because it's so much bigger. It's like 80 miles an hour speed limits everywhere, out where I am. So everyone's actually doing 90. And I would be driving and they're like, Get out of the way, grandma. I'm like, I'm doing fucking 85. It's not like I'm going slow.

Are you in the left lane? No. No?

I'd be in the middle lane.

They're still trying to get you out of the lane?

Yeah, I was grandma. I had to up my game.

Well, didn't you see that in LA, too?

Yeah, but it was always like street racing kids, maybe out further. How often could you get your car to 80 miles an hour driving around LA? At night time? I mean, at night.

I'd see a lot of people driving super fast at night. More unhinged people, I think. Really? Yeah, because I would see people driving recklessly on the 101. When I was coming home from the store, sometimes I'm like, what the fuck?

That's me going home, though. I don't know. It's pretty nuts.

Well, when people live a half an hour away from the city and they want to get home quick, that's how you do it.

Now it's me. Got to hit the gas. Now I'm the one who's doing 95.

Well, it's those people, too.

No, it's true. I don't know. I'm glad I moved here. I remember you saying it feels... My husband's blood pressure actually went down when he moved here.

Yeah, there's less people.

But it's also just like everything Everything is less of a battle. You said it to me, I think, you felt like you could exhale on one of our... When you were talking, you were like, I move there, and just felt like I can breathe a little. My husband has scientific evidence that he His whole energy field got more chill.

Yeah. You're not supposed to be living in a place that has 20 million people. I think it's bad for you.

Have you ever been to Cairo? No. Cairo. Nuts.

Yeah.

It's the craziest city I've ever been in.

I want to go. When you went to the Pyramids, when was it? How long ago?

Oh, my gosh. It was crazy. It was right after the Revolution. So we went in... It was 2000... When was the Arab Spring?

That was Internet times.

It was 2011? 2012? I want to say 2011, 2012.

What's that? 2010. 2010, Arab Spring?

So it must have 2011.

That was one of the first revolutions that the Internet was credited with starting.

Yeah, and no one was there. So everyone was like, Why the fuck are you guys in Egypt? We got basically a private tour of the whole country. We were on a cruise on the Nile, and it was supposed to be hundreds of people. There were 14 people on the cruise. And we got to see... There's usually lines to go into the Great Pyramids. There were no lines to King Tut. No one was anywhere. It was a weird time to be in Egypt. And we saw... I went to Alexandria, was in Cairo, went and did a Nile cruise, which was amazing. Egypt, you got to go.

Yeah, I definitely do. It's amazing. Did you get this weird feeling? How did this go away?

Yeah, that's what I don't understand. And I think I had a mental breakdown down when I was there. Like a weird... We were in the hospital. Not the hospital. I felt like I should get checked into a hospital. We were staying in the Nile across from all the tombs, the king's tombs. And I kept feeling this pulse, and I had a panic attack when I was there, basically. It was the weirdest thing, though. I kept feeling this pulse. It was like, Womp, womp. Was this when you were doing drugs? No, No. I mean, I was drinking still, but I wasn't doing drugs. And I was like, I'm going to have a... I thought I was going to end up in a strait jacket. And I thought I had a panic attack. I had these crazy dreams. I was like, oh, this is where it all started for my whatever. It was fucking... It's weird. It's a weird energy.

Do you think you were getting this feeling like you said, here, it's in the soil. There's something in the soil here, like the fierce independence because these people are tough and they survived making it across the Great Plains and all that shit. Do you think you felt that there? This is the feeling of this civilization that used to exist in this place?

Yeah, it felt to me... I feel like I had a past life regression, if that's even a thing. It was like, I felt like whatever journey I've been on on this planet, it started there, and I went back to the source, and it was like my dreams were crazy. Thank God the guy I was with was nice and kind, but it was like a full-blown panic attack. I couldn't even leave the hotel room.

And do you think that's just because of being in Egypt?

It was just being in Egypt.

Do you think it's because of you knew what the civilization was like and it had declined and gone and now you're there and you just psychologically dealing with this and you're freaking out and putting it on yourself?

I have always been obsessed with Egypt since I was a little kid, just unnaturally obsessed with it. I read I read a book about it when I was a kid. I wanted to go there. I don't know why. I felt like I like to believe in past lives because I think it's confusing. I'm like, If I can choose, it sounds like a fun. It's like, Why not? I've always felt very connected to it. When I went there and was across from... We were in the King Farouk suite, actually, and it had a balcony that overlooked the Nile and the tombs. And I could feel it was like something in my heart, like a vibration. I've said that these places where there are these pyramids, they can have vibrations. I learned this later. But this was like a weird... It kept hitting my heart. And then I thought they drugged me. I thought they gave me something in my hibiscus tea because I I immediately... I drank the hibiscus tea, and I was like, maybe they put some hallucinogen in it. But I think about this a lot because I've had friends who have had anxiety and panic attacks, and I know what it's like to get in your head and feel like you're losing your mind.

And I had to baby step my way out of this panic attack where I couldn't eat. I was unable to keep food down. I just took a bath and was like, I'm going to just chew.

That's never happened to you before?

No. I feel for people have anxiety. I had had anxiety before, but it was when I was smoking a lot of weed and doing a lot of drugs, and I was in a marriage I didn't want to be in to my first husband. So your life was a mess. And I just was lying to myself. I think depression and anxiety can be very useful signposts for something in your life. You're either doing something you shouldn't be doing or you're not doing something you should be doing.

You got a course, correct? Yeah. It's giving you motivation.

Or it's saying there's something... It's like a soul calling for you to check in. So yoga saved me from that time I got divorced. It somewhat went away. I've talked about my hypochondria, so I dealt with that. But then this was different. It was like a weird... My body physiologically reacted to it, too. So not to be too much information, but I randomly got a period out of It was just weird. My body started like, I threw up, I got a period all at once. It's the most supernatural thing that's ever happened to me. Well, there was another time that was really supernatural when I was in Newport, Rhode Island, and I swear there was like a hunting. But other than that, it felt supernatural. It didn't feel normal, and it took me two full days to whatever hit me in my heart on that balcony And all I could hear was this want, want. And it was reverberating from the... I sound like a crazy person, but it was reverberating from the tombs. And then I remember eating a grape so slowly and mindfully just to come back into my body. And I had these crazy dreams, and I felt like I saw all these connections, people in my life present.

And it was weird. It was in that moment when I had a physical reaction where It was like a scene from a movie where it was like, Zap, zap, zap, zap, zap. All these people in my life. And the guy was with, thank God, he could have been a total asshole and been like, You're a fucking cycle. I'm leaving you. But he had a weird experience with me, and in his guest house in New Zealand, where I would fall asleep sometimes downstairs or we'd pass out or whatever. And I was like, Did you have a dog? Because I was convinced there was a ghost because I kept feeling some weird sense. And he's like, Don't talk about the dog. And then it turns out there was a dog, and his kids, he had it and then wanted to get rid of it. And it's this sore thing. He's like, How the fuck did you know it was a dog? And I was like, Oh, because the energy was like a puppy energy. And I was like, What happened to the dog? He's like, Nothing. Don't ever talk about the dog. And I was like, Okay.

So he's like, You're weird and psychic and you have a weird thing. He was like, You're touched by something. And we used to play backgammon all the time. And one time I rolled a dice, and I'm sure it was just lint, but I wanted to win so badly, and then the dice just was on his corner, just frozen. So he had a weird... Just on the tip of it. He's like, What the fuck? You're a witch. So He had slightly unsettling things with me enough that I think he was like, All right, maybe she's not totally...

Well, they say that places have memory, right?

This place, I mean, Egypt is so special.

I haven't been, obviously, but I felt weird when I to Chichinitza. That feels very weird.

Oh, okay. Yeah. I had to... I was baby stepping. I still get slightly like... And my life has never been the same really since. It was... And Egypt is... Cairo's bonkers, but Egypt is the Nile. I remember just cruising down the Nile and being on the deck and you can feel what it was like You're just like, this is what- The memory. Yeah. And the tombs are all very... I don't know. It was very spiritual for me. It felt like a pilgrimage that I didn't know I was taking. That's how it felt to me.

Look, it makes sense. It was the most sophisticated civilization maybe ever in terms of their building- You have to go.

I feel like you would love it.

I know I would love it. I know. I just don't have the time. I almost did it with Mr. Beast. He went in December. Oh, did he? I was going to try to do it and do it with him. He wanted to do a podcast there, but I just couldn't make it happen. I'm too busy.

Yeah, and it's a hike.

Yeah. I need to take a good solid couple of weeks to go there. It needs to be something that I know that I'm going to be there for a couple of weeks. Right now, that's not really possible.

Yeah, yeah.

I went to the visit, the site of the Illicinian mysteries, and I was with Brian Mirorescu.

Where's that?

It's in Greece. That was wild. Really? That was wild. That That place has a memory for sure. Yeah, just touching the walls, it just feels weird. You just feel like this is different. Like you're in the presence of something very strange.

That was Egypt.

Whatever the energy... I bet Egypt is probably even more incredible. But whatever the energy of that place was, there's some of it left there. There's some weird intangible feeling that's left there that just makes you feel very, very strange.

When I was in LA at the Getty Villa, I always go there, and they had the Thrace Exhibit. What's that? Thrace is like... I didn't know anything about it. It's a civilization that was partially in Bulgaria. I think it came after ancient Greece. There it is.

Treasures from Bulgaria, Romania, and Greece.

This statue is fucking insane. It looks like it's looking at you. Look at the eyes. It's insane. It is insane to see it in real life. This exhibit that's there right now is truly one of the most special exhibits I've ever... I go to all of them that I can there. And that is... But I started... Wow, look at that face.

That's amazing.

It's crazy. And I knew nothing about this civilization and society. And the more I learn about it, the more obsessed I am. But all of this stuff had its own... When the fires were around the villa, I was like, oh, God, I hope that all this stuff is okay. I mean, those walls are fireproof and they've got I've never heard of this before. I've never even really heard of Thrace. I've always been very obsessed with Greek mythology, Roman history, all of these things. But Thrace is this crazy civilization.

Look at the relief with two Thraceians.

I want to see if I have the... That's crazy. Yeah. If you're back in LA, I think that exhibit is there until March. March third, I believe.

Maybe it says temporarily closed on top. I don't know if it's because of the fire.

Probably.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, I think the Getty is temporarily closed. The Getty is now open.

The Getty Villa will remain closed until further notice.

Oh, okay. I thought they were opened for some reason, but yeah, they must still be closed from the fires.

Someday someone's going to be doing that with the World Trade Center. They're going to be wandering around that. This is where they used to live. They used to go to school here. They used to work in these buildings. That's going to happen. You think? Yeah. The same way we go through their acropolis in the Parthenon and wander around in a Can you imagine what it was like living back then? People are going to do that with us. Every civilization. Every civilization collapses. We're just trying to hold this one-off as much as we can. And they usually last a couple of hundred years, which is ours.

Yeah, we're pretty young. I mean...

Yeah, but a lot of them haven't made it past where we got to.

It always reminds me of that porno for Pyro's song, The Pets. It's like, My friend says we're like the dinosaurs, and here we are doing ourselves in much faster than they ever did.

I don't know if that's real.

The dinosaurs? No.

The other thing, We're doing ourselves in faster than them. No, they got hit by a rock. We might, too.

I was like, Oh, no. We were in dangerous territory when we find out Joe doesn't believe in dinosaurs.

We were talking about Candice Owens last night. Candice Owens said, Dinosaures are fake and gay.

Is that what she says? Yeah.

Oh. I don't know what she means by that. She might just be having fun. This whole Bridget McCrone thing, though, was crazy.

Did you watch any of it?

No. No. No, I got no time. But I did see a comparison to the photographs of the person that she's claiming is actually the brother.

Oh, the brother. Didn't the brother disappear or something?

Yeah, the brother disappeared. And the brother literally looks exactly like her. I mean, to a fucking T.

She was on the Blake and Ryan thing, too, I think. Yeah. She's a sleuthin. She's been a sleuthin. This is it.

Look at these.

Okay, that's pretty freaking weird.

I'll send it to Jamie. Because this is... I mean, she's just going all in. First of all, I don't even know if this is a real picture. I mean, this easily could be some AI bullshit that somebody created to try to pretend that the brother is actually her, but the brother is not to be found. And If that's real, see, I don't know if that's real. That can't be real. I don't know if that's real because even the fucking teeth are the same. Everything's the same. Every wrinkle of the face is the same. If that was my brother, if my brother looked, I'd be like, Wait a minute, We're not twins, so we're not twins. It looks photoshopped.

The mouth definitely looks photoshopped.

How so?

Because like you said, the teeth are exact.

Yeah, exact in the exact position, right?

Yeah, they're not even almost.

Right. It looks fake. It looks like somebody doctored up, somebody used AI. Some cracks in the lips right here. Pretty much, right? That's probably bullshit. That mouth is photoshopped. Yeah. So you can't tell what's real and what's not real online anymore.

You can't tell. Nothing's real. You I really can't tell. You have to operate from the idea that this is not real. You have to start there now.

Right. But also this is just the beginning. What are we going to be looking at five years from now? We're going to be looking at indescribable experiences that are indistinguishable from reality. Not just images, but you're going to be able to have experiences that aren't real.

Do you think that the metaverse thing is going to take off? People are going to be plugging in to the- Yeah, if it gets good enough.

Yeah.

And It's cheap enough because it's expensive.

It's expensive, and it's also weird to have something in your face. People feel weird, like wearing this big clunky thing. But if you can sit down and attach something to your head, and then all of a sudden you're in another world, you're an avatar flying on a fucking dragon, we're We're going to do it.

I mean, it sounds... Isn't Red Band really into that? Oh, loves it. He's famous in the metaverse.

He goes in there every night. He has parties and stuff. He's a nut. But it's perfect for someone like him. He's a video game guy, loves the internet.

Matt was telling me he took them to a com. You can do a Type 5 at a Comedy Club there. It's crazy. Well, Zuckerberg showed me that, too.

There's a metaverse Comedy Club.

Yeah, but you had to know people to get in, and he's famous. I was like, this is nuts. It's nuts that this already exists to me.

Well, it's just the beginning. That's Pong. And whatever it's going to be like 20 years from now is going to be something really wild.

Isn't it weird to think that you might just exist forever in the metaverse talking because you've done so many podcasts? They'll just be able to cut and paste and make you like... Not even just that.

They'll be able to get a map.

What if you're a God in the future?

Well, they'll be able to get a map of how I think and how I go over things and how I go, Well, maybe not. Let's look at that. And then they'll apply that thinking, and they'll be to do podcasts with me, with anyone in history. I'll be able to have a podcast with Albert Einstein.

I always think about this when I see the people who get tattoos of you. I'm like, The future civilizations are going to be like, who was this man? He must have been someone important, maybe a shaman or a Ammon?

No, he's a bro cage fighting commentator. Yeah, me and Einstein. Just chilling. Look at him. That's a young Einstein, too.

I was looking into this. They can already do it.

What? Let me hear this. They don't have their voices. Oh, they don't have their voices.

But I've seen one where they did.

Nikola Tesla. I'd love to have a podcast with him. They already did a podcast with me and Steve Jobs. Did they? Yeah, an audio one. An audio podcast with me and Steve Jobs. It's crude. You can tell that it's not real, but that's just because it's first generation.

That's really weird. Yeah.

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All right, my friend. I appreciate you. Thank you. Bye. Love you, too. Bye, everybody. Bye..