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Yeah. What's up? What'd you see, man? What's happening? We're just talking about eating pigeon. So I was in Europe, and I had pigeon, and it's a red meat.

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Wait, pigeons are red meatcan't even see us. If you're from an airplane, you look down, you can't even see the humans. Right? So that makes us feel a little bit small. But, like, I don't know something about us inside, how we feel, how we perceive things, the power that we have in numbers, right? Like the intelligence that we have to create things like AI and laser beams and all this stuff. Like, I mean, that's pretty damn significant.We're very significant. We're just a part of the whole thing. The whole thing is just infinitely massive. And we think of ourselves as small because we're just one piece of it. But we're like, I think we're a critical piece of it. And I think what we are is like the purveyors of creativity. And I think creativity is like a thing that's in the universe that forces intelligent animals to make things. And I think we're like an antenna of this creativity. And then we put it out there, and then eventually we're going to leave this planet and we're going to go getting done. It actually fuels things getting done.So, like, similar to, like, the Olympics. Are you watching the Olympics right now.At all, bro, I watched that fucking transgender woman boxer. Box of female boxer. Like, are you people doing what?Oh, honestly, I haven't. I haven't seen much. Every bar or whatever, and anything that has a television right now, I've been traveling, so I see, like, Olympics is on everywhere, right? But one thing that I. That I've noticed, it's like. It's so weird. It seems like the Hunger Games. You know, I see all these, like, crazy outfits and just like, oh, you know, this, like, extravagant thing. I'm like, this is the Olympics now. Like, why is this? And because it's so different now than it. Than what I remember it being.The Olympics is a giant scam. There's two things going on simultaneously, okay? You have the best athletes in the world participating in their disciplines. That's happening. And then on top of that, you have enormous amounts of money being made, and none of it's going to the athletes. It is a giant scam. So the kind of people that are putting together that ridiculous opening ceremony where you got a bunch of drag queens in the last supper and all that.Yeah, well, I didn't understand that.Nobody understands it, because it's not made by athletes. It's not made by the Olympics. It's made by the people that are in charge of putting the Olympics out. So they're the ones who are reaping all the money and sucking all the cash out of these athletes.Got it.Not only do they do that, but then they'll go to places like Brazil. And so if it's going to be in Brazil, theylot of stuff, but not as much as they have now. I don't know. I wonder. It's see if you could find how many more events are there in 2024 than there were in 1936. We'll see if they say that. But the point is, like, everybody who did the Olympics before television, they just did it for national pride, just like winning the nationals. Wrestling, of course. You do it just for the glory of it. It 32 sports, 329 events, and 32 sports, including 28 core Olympic sports contested in 2016, 2020. And then what did it used to be in, like, 1936? 129 events, 25 disciplines. Hmm. So it's slightly less.Gotta love the AI overview, right?Nuts. Just quick, instantly give you all the things. All the things often considered controversial because they were held to showcase the Third Reich in Adolf Hitler's theories of aryan supremacy. All jacked up on coke.What a fucking maniac.Wow. Nuts. So back. My point is. So back then, there was no television revenue. There was no no one was making billions and billions and billions of dollars.Yeah.So the Olympics started with, you know, a very pure intention.Yeah.Pure intention of just, you know, winning, being the best, be the best from your country. Somewhere along the line, it became this fucking enormous business, and the athletes never got cut in.And no one's ever spoken up about it, have they?What do they. What can they do? They don't have any power. No one has any power.Yeah, that's true.Tv networks don't want to change. They're just stealing. They're just stealing money. Imagine if that was the case with the NBA or the NFL or UFC. Imagine if the athletes got zero money and everybody else is driving around Rolls Royces and living in crazy.Super crazy.You guys are fighting for glory, only glory. It's not about money.Represent your country.We've done studies, and it shows that when people fight for money, they don't fight that hard. tried to trick their colleges into posing as women. The association's president, Umar Kremlev, told Russia's task news agency at the time, according to the results of the test, it was proved that they have xy chromosomes. Such athletes were excluded from competition. So I don't think out sports is being honest about this particular thing, because there's outrage all like, I was kind of born in the big show, and, you know, like, as soon as I. As soon as I got into it, Dana was hyped because of my ultimate fighter performances. So he starts throwing me on, like, main cards, me, you know?Right, right.On the big show, I'm fighting in arenas already, all the shit. And then the go can go Kamsaki fight, and then, you know, huge. Yeah, dude, so that was a huge one. Yes.Go Khan had so much hype coming in yet. So much, you know, from glory champion k one.Yeah.Go Kong was a legende. Legend.Yeah. So it's. It's been kind of cool to finally get to that spot where, like, I feel good, you know, like, I feel good. I'm confident in what I, what I can do now. I know exactly where I'm going. I'm not like 1ft in, 1ft out. And, you know, I got one thing that I'm focused on, and that's being the champion.Well, the work showed in the Anthony Smith fight. It really did. I mean, this, this trajectory that you're on showed that you're, you're on a new level.Yeah, dude, new level. New level, for sure. And, you know, one thing that, it's kind of crazy, that helped me for the preparation of that fight because he took it last minute. Ten days notice, I was scheduled to fight another guy. He got pneumonia, like kind of the week, week before or something like that. But I did a lot of shooting for that, for that camp. I went shooting. And that changed my perspective because I'm not a guns guy.Oh, like shooting at a range?Yeah, and it changed, it just changed a lot.In what way?You know, we were talking about earlier how, like, like brilliance and, like, physical ability and, like, mental. Yeah, I never, I was never a gun guy. Like, my dad was murdered. So, like, from a young age, I just kind of had this, like, weird relationship with guns. And, yeah, I've had guns. Yeah, whatever pulled on me, blah, blah, blah. But when I made that decision to go and, like, actually learn from a guy who was a Navy SeAL, had a lot of expertise, had a really good way. Like, we spent hours of him just, like, explaining to me certain things, you know, gun safety, blah, blah, blah. Different situation, his mentality, clearing buildings, blah, blah, blah. So I'm taking all this in, all this information and processing it all, and then I finally start to shoot. And the power that I felt from the gun, you know, just like, the accuracy that I felt from shooting an AR 15, the understanding of, like, different caliber of bullets, I made me start to then formulate how I'm going to strike. Like, you know, like, man, I'm giving away secrets. Fuck it. So even on the, like, the Anthony Smith fight, like, my left hand, I'm like, okay, my left hand is five five six.That's, that's the ammunition for fucking, you know, for Ar. So, like, that's how I was kind of processing everything. So every time I threw my left hand, I'm thinking of the sound and the feeling of the AR. Really punk. Punk, you know, like, yeah. So I'm like, okay, like, feeling the target, whatever. Just kind of like, okay, what do I feel like fucking loading? Okay, load it. Bong. You know, like, I'm just thinking about every time I shot the gun, every time I shot the pistol, it's like, I was like, really? Yeah, dude. I so, like, it was. It really, like, I was able to kind of pull from that experience and then bring it into my fight. But then also, not only that, I was also thinking about, like, the things that this guy was telling me when it came to, like, when they're in combat, when they're clearing buildings, and so, like, just emotionally, it's so crazy, dude. Before that fight, my. My strength and conditioning, coach Lorenzo, he's a big, big shooter guy, ex military, you know, but big, big on shooting, big on self defense. And the day of the fight, you know, like, I'm obviously just in the zone, and I'm sitting in the living room because I stay with him during camps.We just do it that way. So I'm, like, sitting in living room, kind of just shaking back and forth because I have so much energy, and he knows that I've been putting in my experiences from shooting into my training, and it's crazy. I was sitting there, dude, and I have my hood on inside, and I'm just, like, rocking back and forth. And he comes, and he just fucking sets an ar 15 right there on my lap.Oh, wow.Walks away, like, just rocking back and forth, you know? And then we drive to the apex from the house, and then, wow. Like, so the whole. Yeah, the whole time. And in my head, even as we're walking out, he's like, 55656. And I'm like, yeah. And then in the first round, he's like, five, five, six. And I just. I kept saying that in my head, 5565.Wow.Just fucking, dude, it was crazy.That's an interesting visualization tool, because you think about it like, that's really how you want your strikes to land. You want them to be almost instantaneous from the time you pull the trigger.From the time you pull the trigger. Yeah, yeah. And you like, what's your right hand? Right hand was. Wasn't even my weapon. It was like, I wasn't looking at it like that. It was kind of more like range, really. Yeah, range finder. But I'd say, like, I'd say that when I did throw the jab, it was probably everything for that. Like, was five, five, six. So even my jab, I threw some pretty clean jabs in there. Yeah. But I wanted it to land straight, accurate, and, like, fast. And so it wasn't like, you know, shotgun. I'm not like, oh, boy.I'm thinking the sound, the reaction, precision, instantaneous.Instantaneous.Yeah.You know what I mean? Like, not a lot of recoil.Right?Like, blap. Yeah, sting, stink. Like, just like that.That's interesting to visualize it that way, you know, because, you know, sometimes you see guys throwing punches at a lower level, and you see them, like, grit and swing and everything's wide. Wide and.Yeah.Hoping it lands.Yeah. No, I was very intentional with every. Every movement, are gonna be really cool. Yeah, but the gold ones. The gold ones are cool.Oh, the gold ones are so cool.Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah, it is. That's the new. That's the new nucleus. See the container one, the baby blue? Yeah, that's pretty sick. It reminds me of the pride when they had the blue. Go blue gloves.Pride gloves are great, too.Yeah.Pride gloves also curved more. Yeah, they curved more. And you saw very few eye pokes in pride.Yeah. Who is that? What's something with an eye? He's something. Yeah, they were good. They were good gloves. But we'll see, man. We'll see. You know, hopefully probably five years. Five more years. But I don't know how long it took them to change the glove.I know it took a long time. I don't think they're going to do watch it as the fucking.Algorithm, Eddie Connor's got his eyes wide, wide open. Look, look, look, look at the punch. Comes to his notches and nose. And look at counter. This counter. So nice. Oh, my God. Right behind the ear. It's a perfect counter. It just rocks Eddie. The.Look at that dude. He didn't even break eye contact. He's still looking at it.And then the right hook. Look at this. Bang. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.Yeah, I know. So crazy that that got fed to me on my way here.Yeah. Going around today. Yeah. Prime McGregor was so smooth. Look at that. I'm it. It's gonna be memorable. It's gonna hopefully go down in the hall of fame one day, you know, like, something like that, you know, like, yeah, so, yeah, it's the guy that I think about at the moment and, you know, and my motivation to train and to get better and to be a better person, to be a better man, it's like, I'm fucking grateful for the guy in a way.You know what I mean? Like, it's not a disrespect thing. It's more of like, yeah, fuck, yeah. Thank you for giving me something to, like, wake up for every morning.Right. For being so dominant.Yeah.That is the thing about when you have an incredible champion. It really does make everyone inspired. It makes people rise.Yeah.Makes your skills. Have you. Did you ever watch Vaatov fight in Glory?No.Artem Va hit off is the last guy to beat. To beat Alex in glory. And he's now nasty. He's his russian kickboxer. He's really, really fucking good. Super technical.Those kickboxers are crazy, dude.Yeah. Glory is. It's. Glory is the most. In my opinion, it's the most underrated and underappreciated of all the combat sports because the level that those guys are fighting at is so high.Yeah. I remember when I listened to your episode with within Ghana when you were talking about Cedric Doombe.Yes.I mean, I trained with him a little bit when I. I was living in Europe, and I walked into this gym, Joe, I'm not even lying, dude. I probably trained there twice, and I was like, I can't. I'm not fucking built for this. At that time, like, I was still young. Like, this was. I think it was. Could have been. It was around the go Khan Saki fight. Maybe before or after. But I walked into this gym in Belgium, and it was just full of dogs, and Cedric was there, and he was training. And the way that these guys were just drilling, I was fucked up. My legs, my arms, because they're. They're blocking in their offense. Defense drills are full speed. You know what I mean? Big gloves, shin guards. But they're like, and then back and is more applicable for an actual fight, like, developing skilled?I think so. I mean, like, especially if you want to kick or punch or do anything at, like, a full power.Right.Because I do notice that, like, like, from the tie pad work, that's where you practice your power. That's where it, like, the. On the bag and on the pads. It's more power, right. It's less like, boxing is more like focus mitts.Mm hmm.You don't really do power of boxing on ondem mitts, but with, like, with Muay Thai, it's like, this is my chance to be, like, how. How effective is my left kick at 100%, you know? And I'm, like, trusting this Guy to be able to catch it for me. So I prefer it. I make. I prefer the true essence and the true martial art of Muay Thai because it's. It's when you. When you kind of understand it and when you've kind of learned it from, you know, like, just different traditions and, like, different lineages. It's like you can. You can pick up on. Things are like, okay, now. Okay, yeah, this is. This is. I can fucking ruin someone if I, like, relax RIghT Here, and I'm standing just, like, an arm's length of THiS Guy, and I just want to really blast the Kick and be on BALaNcE. I could ruin this guy. You know?You also were telling me that they changed the way you were kicking.Yeah. So everyone, like, everyone has their own way. It's like, if you go to a jujitsu school and, like, an armbar is an armbar, but people have different ways of, like, setting it up or more effective to. To get it. The biggest thing that kind of Helped me was, for one, like, a lot of people, when they kick, they lean back to kind of counterbalance that weight. And my trainer always told me, like, he always had me, like, drive, like, drive my pressure forward. I actually wish that I was fucking training with you. I was here, side. No, I was like, damn, dude. Sick to fucking. To show some stuff to Rogan. But anyway, he was showing me, like, next time. Yeah, yeah, I got a whole gym here. Yeah, I saw it. It's probably way better now than, yeah, just moved in here, but kind of like this more like forward projection. So, like, all of my weight and plus the kick moving forward versus standing stationary, lifting my and going backward, you know, like, there's like a. No tilting, the turning of the hips, like, kicking with the shin and not the foot.Like, so there's a lot of little details that go into, like, making these things happen, you know, and also the speed of the kick, like, a lot. A big problem that I see in MMA for sure is that, like, man, I can see kicks coming from a mile away.Right.Because there's just so much just to get your leg up, you should just be able to fucking whip it and it still be as powerful and as effective.Yeah, you were saying something about the smoothness of the. They taught you how to relax more when you're throwing kicks.I have, like, you have to relax, like, the kicks. The leg is the heaviest limb on the body, you know, and just, like, if you want to knock someone out, you don't want. You don't want to tense up first. You got to be relaxed. It's got to be swift. So it's kind of like, in order to lift your leg, to throw it at is kicking the bag? How much of is kicking pads? How much of is kicking the air?Okay, so I kick the bag a lot. I just have a bag in my house, and everything's usually, like, slow, just getting my body to move and comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless.Just the technique?Yeah, just the technique. And, like, the flow and, like, the.Feeling when you do it at home. Like, how much warm up do you do before you do anything like that?It kind of is my warm up. So, yeah, I do it lightly until my intensity picks up and until I'm like, okay, I'm fucking tired. Right. You know, so I'll start off. Really? Yeah, I posted, like, a video the other day. It's like, of my routine. Like, I just, like, I put on this music, like thai country.Oh, let me see it.Yeah, it's. Yeah, actually, if you pull that up, you'll see, like, that's kind of my daily, like, my daily routine. So I'd say a lot of my training, it's like, probably 60% is just like shadow boxing. Light bag work, working on balance. Yeah.So just nice. See, like, what are you listening to?I'll put it on. That's like the classic.Thai music.Yeah. So try not, like, even here, I'm trying not to lean my head back and try to keep more of, like, a station, like a straight up and down posture while throwing the kick. It's very hard, but it's like, as you practice it, it only makes the kicks a little bit more effective.So this is at your house?Yeah, this is just my coverage.Your bag?130.And so you justnow, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.All right, let's go to the gym.I'm sure you.Bye, everybody. Later.

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can't even see us. If you're from an airplane, you look down, you can't even see the humans. Right? So that makes us feel a little bit small. But, like, I don't know something about us inside, how we feel, how we perceive things, the power that we have in numbers, right? Like the intelligence that we have to create things like AI and laser beams and all this stuff. Like, I mean, that's pretty damn significant.

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We're very significant. We're just a part of the whole thing. The whole thing is just infinitely massive. And we think of ourselves as small because we're just one piece of it. But we're like, I think we're a critical piece of it. And I think what we are is like the purveyors of creativity. And I think creativity is like a thing that's in the universe that forces intelligent animals to make things. And I think we're like an antenna of this creativity. And then we put it out there, and then eventually we're going to leave this planet and we're going to go getting done. It actually fuels things getting done.So, like, similar to, like, the Olympics. Are you watching the Olympics right now.At all, bro, I watched that fucking transgender woman boxer. Box of female boxer. Like, are you people doing what?Oh, honestly, I haven't. I haven't seen much. Every bar or whatever, and anything that has a television right now, I've been traveling, so I see, like, Olympics is on everywhere, right? But one thing that I. That I've noticed, it's like. It's so weird. It seems like the Hunger Games. You know, I see all these, like, crazy outfits and just like, oh, you know, this, like, extravagant thing. I'm like, this is the Olympics now. Like, why is this? And because it's so different now than it. Than what I remember it being.The Olympics is a giant scam. There's two things going on simultaneously, okay? You have the best athletes in the world participating in their disciplines. That's happening. And then on top of that, you have enormous amounts of money being made, and none of it's going to the athletes. It is a giant scam. So the kind of people that are putting together that ridiculous opening ceremony where you got a bunch of drag queens in the last supper and all that.Yeah, well, I didn't understand that.Nobody understands it, because it's not made by athletes. It's not made by the Olympics. It's made by the people that are in charge of putting the Olympics out. So they're the ones who are reaping all the money and sucking all the cash out of these athletes.Got it.Not only do they do that, but then they'll go to places like Brazil. And so if it's going to be in Brazil, theylot of stuff, but not as much as they have now. I don't know. I wonder. It's see if you could find how many more events are there in 2024 than there were in 1936. We'll see if they say that. But the point is, like, everybody who did the Olympics before television, they just did it for national pride, just like winning the nationals. Wrestling, of course. You do it just for the glory of it. It 32 sports, 329 events, and 32 sports, including 28 core Olympic sports contested in 2016, 2020. And then what did it used to be in, like, 1936? 129 events, 25 disciplines. Hmm. So it's slightly less.Gotta love the AI overview, right?Nuts. Just quick, instantly give you all the things. All the things often considered controversial because they were held to showcase the Third Reich in Adolf Hitler's theories of aryan supremacy. All jacked up on coke.What a fucking maniac.Wow. Nuts. So back. My point is. So back then, there was no television revenue. There was no no one was making billions and billions and billions of dollars.Yeah.So the Olympics started with, you know, a very pure intention.Yeah.Pure intention of just, you know, winning, being the best, be the best from your country. Somewhere along the line, it became this fucking enormous business, and the athletes never got cut in.And no one's ever spoken up about it, have they?What do they. What can they do? They don't have any power. No one has any power.Yeah, that's true.Tv networks don't want to change. They're just stealing. They're just stealing money. Imagine if that was the case with the NBA or the NFL or UFC. Imagine if the athletes got zero money and everybody else is driving around Rolls Royces and living in crazy.Super crazy.You guys are fighting for glory, only glory. It's not about money.Represent your country.We've done studies, and it shows that when people fight for money, they don't fight that hard. tried to trick their colleges into posing as women. The association's president, Umar Kremlev, told Russia's task news agency at the time, according to the results of the test, it was proved that they have xy chromosomes. Such athletes were excluded from competition. So I don't think out sports is being honest about this particular thing, because there's outrage all like, I was kind of born in the big show, and, you know, like, as soon as I. As soon as I got into it, Dana was hyped because of my ultimate fighter performances. So he starts throwing me on, like, main cards, me, you know?Right, right.On the big show, I'm fighting in arenas already, all the shit. And then the go can go Kamsaki fight, and then, you know, huge. Yeah, dude, so that was a huge one. Yes.Go Khan had so much hype coming in yet. So much, you know, from glory champion k one.Yeah.Go Kong was a legende. Legend.Yeah. So it's. It's been kind of cool to finally get to that spot where, like, I feel good, you know, like, I feel good. I'm confident in what I, what I can do now. I know exactly where I'm going. I'm not like 1ft in, 1ft out. And, you know, I got one thing that I'm focused on, and that's being the champion.Well, the work showed in the Anthony Smith fight. It really did. I mean, this, this trajectory that you're on showed that you're, you're on a new level.Yeah, dude, new level. New level, for sure. And, you know, one thing that, it's kind of crazy, that helped me for the preparation of that fight because he took it last minute. Ten days notice, I was scheduled to fight another guy. He got pneumonia, like kind of the week, week before or something like that. But I did a lot of shooting for that, for that camp. I went shooting. And that changed my perspective because I'm not a guns guy.Oh, like shooting at a range?Yeah, and it changed, it just changed a lot.In what way?You know, we were talking about earlier how, like, like brilliance and, like, physical ability and, like, mental. Yeah, I never, I was never a gun guy. Like, my dad was murdered. So, like, from a young age, I just kind of had this, like, weird relationship with guns. And, yeah, I've had guns. Yeah, whatever pulled on me, blah, blah, blah. But when I made that decision to go and, like, actually learn from a guy who was a Navy SeAL, had a lot of expertise, had a really good way. Like, we spent hours of him just, like, explaining to me certain things, you know, gun safety, blah, blah, blah. Different situation, his mentality, clearing buildings, blah, blah, blah. So I'm taking all this in, all this information and processing it all, and then I finally start to shoot. And the power that I felt from the gun, you know, just like, the accuracy that I felt from shooting an AR 15, the understanding of, like, different caliber of bullets, I made me start to then formulate how I'm going to strike. Like, you know, like, man, I'm giving away secrets. Fuck it. So even on the, like, the Anthony Smith fight, like, my left hand, I'm like, okay, my left hand is five five six.That's, that's the ammunition for fucking, you know, for Ar. So, like, that's how I was kind of processing everything. So every time I threw my left hand, I'm thinking of the sound and the feeling of the AR. Really punk. Punk, you know, like, yeah. So I'm like, okay, like, feeling the target, whatever. Just kind of like, okay, what do I feel like fucking loading? Okay, load it. Bong. You know, like, I'm just thinking about every time I shot the gun, every time I shot the pistol, it's like, I was like, really? Yeah, dude. I so, like, it was. It really, like, I was able to kind of pull from that experience and then bring it into my fight. But then also, not only that, I was also thinking about, like, the things that this guy was telling me when it came to, like, when they're in combat, when they're clearing buildings, and so, like, just emotionally, it's so crazy, dude. Before that fight, my. My strength and conditioning, coach Lorenzo, he's a big, big shooter guy, ex military, you know, but big, big on shooting, big on self defense. And the day of the fight, you know, like, I'm obviously just in the zone, and I'm sitting in the living room because I stay with him during camps.We just do it that way. So I'm, like, sitting in living room, kind of just shaking back and forth because I have so much energy, and he knows that I've been putting in my experiences from shooting into my training, and it's crazy. I was sitting there, dude, and I have my hood on inside, and I'm just, like, rocking back and forth. And he comes, and he just fucking sets an ar 15 right there on my lap.Oh, wow.Walks away, like, just rocking back and forth, you know? And then we drive to the apex from the house, and then, wow. Like, so the whole. Yeah, the whole time. And in my head, even as we're walking out, he's like, 55656. And I'm like, yeah. And then in the first round, he's like, five, five, six. And I just. I kept saying that in my head, 5565.Wow.Just fucking, dude, it was crazy.That's an interesting visualization tool, because you think about it like, that's really how you want your strikes to land. You want them to be almost instantaneous from the time you pull the trigger.From the time you pull the trigger. Yeah, yeah. And you like, what's your right hand? Right hand was. Wasn't even my weapon. It was like, I wasn't looking at it like that. It was kind of more like range, really. Yeah, range finder. But I'd say, like, I'd say that when I did throw the jab, it was probably everything for that. Like, was five, five, six. So even my jab, I threw some pretty clean jabs in there. Yeah. But I wanted it to land straight, accurate, and, like, fast. And so it wasn't like, you know, shotgun. I'm not like, oh, boy.I'm thinking the sound, the reaction, precision, instantaneous.Instantaneous.Yeah.You know what I mean? Like, not a lot of recoil.Right?Like, blap. Yeah, sting, stink. Like, just like that.That's interesting to visualize it that way, you know, because, you know, sometimes you see guys throwing punches at a lower level, and you see them, like, grit and swing and everything's wide. Wide and.Yeah.Hoping it lands.Yeah. No, I was very intentional with every. Every movement, are gonna be really cool. Yeah, but the gold ones. The gold ones are cool.Oh, the gold ones are so cool.Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah, it is. That's the new. That's the new nucleus. See the container one, the baby blue? Yeah, that's pretty sick. It reminds me of the pride when they had the blue. Go blue gloves.Pride gloves are great, too.Yeah.Pride gloves also curved more. Yeah, they curved more. And you saw very few eye pokes in pride.Yeah. Who is that? What's something with an eye? He's something. Yeah, they were good. They were good gloves. But we'll see, man. We'll see. You know, hopefully probably five years. Five more years. But I don't know how long it took them to change the glove.I know it took a long time. I don't think they're going to do watch it as the fucking.Algorithm, Eddie Connor's got his eyes wide, wide open. Look, look, look, look at the punch. Comes to his notches and nose. And look at counter. This counter. So nice. Oh, my God. Right behind the ear. It's a perfect counter. It just rocks Eddie. The.Look at that dude. He didn't even break eye contact. He's still looking at it.And then the right hook. Look at this. Bang. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.Yeah, I know. So crazy that that got fed to me on my way here.Yeah. Going around today. Yeah. Prime McGregor was so smooth. Look at that. I'm it. It's gonna be memorable. It's gonna hopefully go down in the hall of fame one day, you know, like, something like that, you know, like, yeah, so, yeah, it's the guy that I think about at the moment and, you know, and my motivation to train and to get better and to be a better person, to be a better man, it's like, I'm fucking grateful for the guy in a way.You know what I mean? Like, it's not a disrespect thing. It's more of like, yeah, fuck, yeah. Thank you for giving me something to, like, wake up for every morning.Right. For being so dominant.Yeah.That is the thing about when you have an incredible champion. It really does make everyone inspired. It makes people rise.Yeah.Makes your skills. Have you. Did you ever watch Vaatov fight in Glory?No.Artem Va hit off is the last guy to beat. To beat Alex in glory. And he's now nasty. He's his russian kickboxer. He's really, really fucking good. Super technical.Those kickboxers are crazy, dude.Yeah. Glory is. It's. Glory is the most. In my opinion, it's the most underrated and underappreciated of all the combat sports because the level that those guys are fighting at is so high.Yeah. I remember when I listened to your episode with within Ghana when you were talking about Cedric Doombe.Yes.I mean, I trained with him a little bit when I. I was living in Europe, and I walked into this gym, Joe, I'm not even lying, dude. I probably trained there twice, and I was like, I can't. I'm not fucking built for this. At that time, like, I was still young. Like, this was. I think it was. Could have been. It was around the go Khan Saki fight. Maybe before or after. But I walked into this gym in Belgium, and it was just full of dogs, and Cedric was there, and he was training. And the way that these guys were just drilling, I was fucked up. My legs, my arms, because they're. They're blocking in their offense. Defense drills are full speed. You know what I mean? Big gloves, shin guards. But they're like, and then back and is more applicable for an actual fight, like, developing skilled?I think so. I mean, like, especially if you want to kick or punch or do anything at, like, a full power.Right.Because I do notice that, like, like, from the tie pad work, that's where you practice your power. That's where it, like, the. On the bag and on the pads. It's more power, right. It's less like, boxing is more like focus mitts.Mm hmm.You don't really do power of boxing on ondem mitts, but with, like, with Muay Thai, it's like, this is my chance to be, like, how. How effective is my left kick at 100%, you know? And I'm, like, trusting this Guy to be able to catch it for me. So I prefer it. I make. I prefer the true essence and the true martial art of Muay Thai because it's. It's when you. When you kind of understand it and when you've kind of learned it from, you know, like, just different traditions and, like, different lineages. It's like you can. You can pick up on. Things are like, okay, now. Okay, yeah, this is. This is. I can fucking ruin someone if I, like, relax RIghT Here, and I'm standing just, like, an arm's length of THiS Guy, and I just want to really blast the Kick and be on BALaNcE. I could ruin this guy. You know?You also were telling me that they changed the way you were kicking.Yeah. So everyone, like, everyone has their own way. It's like, if you go to a jujitsu school and, like, an armbar is an armbar, but people have different ways of, like, setting it up or more effective to. To get it. The biggest thing that kind of Helped me was, for one, like, a lot of people, when they kick, they lean back to kind of counterbalance that weight. And my trainer always told me, like, he always had me, like, drive, like, drive my pressure forward. I actually wish that I was fucking training with you. I was here, side. No, I was like, damn, dude. Sick to fucking. To show some stuff to Rogan. But anyway, he was showing me, like, next time. Yeah, yeah, I got a whole gym here. Yeah, I saw it. It's probably way better now than, yeah, just moved in here, but kind of like this more like forward projection. So, like, all of my weight and plus the kick moving forward versus standing stationary, lifting my and going backward, you know, like, there's like a. No tilting, the turning of the hips, like, kicking with the shin and not the foot.Like, so there's a lot of little details that go into, like, making these things happen, you know, and also the speed of the kick, like, a lot. A big problem that I see in MMA for sure is that, like, man, I can see kicks coming from a mile away.Right.Because there's just so much just to get your leg up, you should just be able to fucking whip it and it still be as powerful and as effective.Yeah, you were saying something about the smoothness of the. They taught you how to relax more when you're throwing kicks.I have, like, you have to relax, like, the kicks. The leg is the heaviest limb on the body, you know, and just, like, if you want to knock someone out, you don't want. You don't want to tense up first. You got to be relaxed. It's got to be swift. So it's kind of like, in order to lift your leg, to throw it at is kicking the bag? How much of is kicking pads? How much of is kicking the air?Okay, so I kick the bag a lot. I just have a bag in my house, and everything's usually, like, slow, just getting my body to move and comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless.Just the technique?Yeah, just the technique. And, like, the flow and, like, the.Feeling when you do it at home. Like, how much warm up do you do before you do anything like that?It kind of is my warm up. So, yeah, I do it lightly until my intensity picks up and until I'm like, okay, I'm fucking tired. Right. You know, so I'll start off. Really? Yeah, I posted, like, a video the other day. It's like, of my routine. Like, I just, like, I put on this music, like thai country.Oh, let me see it.Yeah, it's. Yeah, actually, if you pull that up, you'll see, like, that's kind of my daily, like, my daily routine. So I'd say a lot of my training, it's like, probably 60% is just like shadow boxing. Light bag work, working on balance. Yeah.So just nice. See, like, what are you listening to?I'll put it on. That's like the classic.Thai music.Yeah. So try not, like, even here, I'm trying not to lean my head back and try to keep more of, like, a station, like a straight up and down posture while throwing the kick. It's very hard, but it's like, as you practice it, it only makes the kicks a little bit more effective.So this is at your house?Yeah, this is just my coverage.Your bag?130.And so you justnow, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.All right, let's go to the gym.I'm sure you.Bye, everybody. Later.

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getting done. It actually fuels things getting done.

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So, like, similar to, like, the Olympics. Are you watching the Olympics right now.

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At all, bro, I watched that fucking transgender woman boxer. Box of female boxer. Like, are you people doing what?

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Oh, honestly, I haven't. I haven't seen much. Every bar or whatever, and anything that has a television right now, I've been traveling, so I see, like, Olympics is on everywhere, right? But one thing that I. That I've noticed, it's like. It's so weird. It seems like the Hunger Games. You know, I see all these, like, crazy outfits and just like, oh, you know, this, like, extravagant thing. I'm like, this is the Olympics now. Like, why is this? And because it's so different now than it. Than what I remember it being.

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The Olympics is a giant scam. There's two things going on simultaneously, okay? You have the best athletes in the world participating in their disciplines. That's happening. And then on top of that, you have enormous amounts of money being made, and none of it's going to the athletes. It is a giant scam. So the kind of people that are putting together that ridiculous opening ceremony where you got a bunch of drag queens in the last supper and all that.

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Yeah, well, I didn't understand that.

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Nobody understands it, because it's not made by athletes. It's not made by the Olympics. It's made by the people that are in charge of putting the Olympics out. So they're the ones who are reaping all the money and sucking all the cash out of these athletes.

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Got it.

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Not only do they do that, but then they'll go to places like Brazil. And so if it's going to be in Brazil, theylot of stuff, but not as much as they have now. I don't know. I wonder. It's see if you could find how many more events are there in 2024 than there were in 1936. We'll see if they say that. But the point is, like, everybody who did the Olympics before television, they just did it for national pride, just like winning the nationals. Wrestling, of course. You do it just for the glory of it. It 32 sports, 329 events, and 32 sports, including 28 core Olympic sports contested in 2016, 2020. And then what did it used to be in, like, 1936? 129 events, 25 disciplines. Hmm. So it's slightly less.Gotta love the AI overview, right?Nuts. Just quick, instantly give you all the things. All the things often considered controversial because they were held to showcase the Third Reich in Adolf Hitler's theories of aryan supremacy. All jacked up on coke.What a fucking maniac.Wow. Nuts. So back. My point is. So back then, there was no television revenue. There was no no one was making billions and billions and billions of dollars.Yeah.So the Olympics started with, you know, a very pure intention.Yeah.Pure intention of just, you know, winning, being the best, be the best from your country. Somewhere along the line, it became this fucking enormous business, and the athletes never got cut in.And no one's ever spoken up about it, have they?What do they. What can they do? They don't have any power. No one has any power.Yeah, that's true.Tv networks don't want to change. They're just stealing. They're just stealing money. Imagine if that was the case with the NBA or the NFL or UFC. Imagine if the athletes got zero money and everybody else is driving around Rolls Royces and living in crazy.Super crazy.You guys are fighting for glory, only glory. It's not about money.Represent your country.We've done studies, and it shows that when people fight for money, they don't fight that hard. tried to trick their colleges into posing as women. The association's president, Umar Kremlev, told Russia's task news agency at the time, according to the results of the test, it was proved that they have xy chromosomes. Such athletes were excluded from competition. So I don't think out sports is being honest about this particular thing, because there's outrage all like, I was kind of born in the big show, and, you know, like, as soon as I. As soon as I got into it, Dana was hyped because of my ultimate fighter performances. So he starts throwing me on, like, main cards, me, you know?Right, right.On the big show, I'm fighting in arenas already, all the shit. And then the go can go Kamsaki fight, and then, you know, huge. Yeah, dude, so that was a huge one. Yes.Go Khan had so much hype coming in yet. So much, you know, from glory champion k one.Yeah.Go Kong was a legende. Legend.Yeah. So it's. It's been kind of cool to finally get to that spot where, like, I feel good, you know, like, I feel good. I'm confident in what I, what I can do now. I know exactly where I'm going. I'm not like 1ft in, 1ft out. And, you know, I got one thing that I'm focused on, and that's being the champion.Well, the work showed in the Anthony Smith fight. It really did. I mean, this, this trajectory that you're on showed that you're, you're on a new level.Yeah, dude, new level. New level, for sure. And, you know, one thing that, it's kind of crazy, that helped me for the preparation of that fight because he took it last minute. Ten days notice, I was scheduled to fight another guy. He got pneumonia, like kind of the week, week before or something like that. But I did a lot of shooting for that, for that camp. I went shooting. And that changed my perspective because I'm not a guns guy.Oh, like shooting at a range?Yeah, and it changed, it just changed a lot.In what way?You know, we were talking about earlier how, like, like brilliance and, like, physical ability and, like, mental. Yeah, I never, I was never a gun guy. Like, my dad was murdered. So, like, from a young age, I just kind of had this, like, weird relationship with guns. And, yeah, I've had guns. Yeah, whatever pulled on me, blah, blah, blah. But when I made that decision to go and, like, actually learn from a guy who was a Navy SeAL, had a lot of expertise, had a really good way. Like, we spent hours of him just, like, explaining to me certain things, you know, gun safety, blah, blah, blah. Different situation, his mentality, clearing buildings, blah, blah, blah. So I'm taking all this in, all this information and processing it all, and then I finally start to shoot. And the power that I felt from the gun, you know, just like, the accuracy that I felt from shooting an AR 15, the understanding of, like, different caliber of bullets, I made me start to then formulate how I'm going to strike. Like, you know, like, man, I'm giving away secrets. Fuck it. So even on the, like, the Anthony Smith fight, like, my left hand, I'm like, okay, my left hand is five five six.That's, that's the ammunition for fucking, you know, for Ar. So, like, that's how I was kind of processing everything. So every time I threw my left hand, I'm thinking of the sound and the feeling of the AR. Really punk. Punk, you know, like, yeah. So I'm like, okay, like, feeling the target, whatever. Just kind of like, okay, what do I feel like fucking loading? Okay, load it. Bong. You know, like, I'm just thinking about every time I shot the gun, every time I shot the pistol, it's like, I was like, really? Yeah, dude. I so, like, it was. It really, like, I was able to kind of pull from that experience and then bring it into my fight. But then also, not only that, I was also thinking about, like, the things that this guy was telling me when it came to, like, when they're in combat, when they're clearing buildings, and so, like, just emotionally, it's so crazy, dude. Before that fight, my. My strength and conditioning, coach Lorenzo, he's a big, big shooter guy, ex military, you know, but big, big on shooting, big on self defense. And the day of the fight, you know, like, I'm obviously just in the zone, and I'm sitting in the living room because I stay with him during camps.We just do it that way. So I'm, like, sitting in living room, kind of just shaking back and forth because I have so much energy, and he knows that I've been putting in my experiences from shooting into my training, and it's crazy. I was sitting there, dude, and I have my hood on inside, and I'm just, like, rocking back and forth. And he comes, and he just fucking sets an ar 15 right there on my lap.Oh, wow.Walks away, like, just rocking back and forth, you know? And then we drive to the apex from the house, and then, wow. Like, so the whole. Yeah, the whole time. And in my head, even as we're walking out, he's like, 55656. And I'm like, yeah. And then in the first round, he's like, five, five, six. And I just. I kept saying that in my head, 5565.Wow.Just fucking, dude, it was crazy.That's an interesting visualization tool, because you think about it like, that's really how you want your strikes to land. You want them to be almost instantaneous from the time you pull the trigger.From the time you pull the trigger. Yeah, yeah. And you like, what's your right hand? Right hand was. Wasn't even my weapon. It was like, I wasn't looking at it like that. It was kind of more like range, really. Yeah, range finder. But I'd say, like, I'd say that when I did throw the jab, it was probably everything for that. Like, was five, five, six. So even my jab, I threw some pretty clean jabs in there. Yeah. But I wanted it to land straight, accurate, and, like, fast. And so it wasn't like, you know, shotgun. I'm not like, oh, boy.I'm thinking the sound, the reaction, precision, instantaneous.Instantaneous.Yeah.You know what I mean? Like, not a lot of recoil.Right?Like, blap. Yeah, sting, stink. Like, just like that.That's interesting to visualize it that way, you know, because, you know, sometimes you see guys throwing punches at a lower level, and you see them, like, grit and swing and everything's wide. Wide and.Yeah.Hoping it lands.Yeah. No, I was very intentional with every. Every movement, are gonna be really cool. Yeah, but the gold ones. The gold ones are cool.Oh, the gold ones are so cool.Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah, it is. That's the new. That's the new nucleus. See the container one, the baby blue? Yeah, that's pretty sick. It reminds me of the pride when they had the blue. Go blue gloves.Pride gloves are great, too.Yeah.Pride gloves also curved more. Yeah, they curved more. And you saw very few eye pokes in pride.Yeah. Who is that? What's something with an eye? He's something. Yeah, they were good. They were good gloves. But we'll see, man. We'll see. You know, hopefully probably five years. Five more years. But I don't know how long it took them to change the glove.I know it took a long time. I don't think they're going to do watch it as the fucking.Algorithm, Eddie Connor's got his eyes wide, wide open. Look, look, look, look at the punch. Comes to his notches and nose. And look at counter. This counter. So nice. Oh, my God. Right behind the ear. It's a perfect counter. It just rocks Eddie. The.Look at that dude. He didn't even break eye contact. He's still looking at it.And then the right hook. Look at this. Bang. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.Yeah, I know. So crazy that that got fed to me on my way here.Yeah. Going around today. Yeah. Prime McGregor was so smooth. Look at that. I'm it. It's gonna be memorable. It's gonna hopefully go down in the hall of fame one day, you know, like, something like that, you know, like, yeah, so, yeah, it's the guy that I think about at the moment and, you know, and my motivation to train and to get better and to be a better person, to be a better man, it's like, I'm fucking grateful for the guy in a way.You know what I mean? Like, it's not a disrespect thing. It's more of like, yeah, fuck, yeah. Thank you for giving me something to, like, wake up for every morning.Right. For being so dominant.Yeah.That is the thing about when you have an incredible champion. It really does make everyone inspired. It makes people rise.Yeah.Makes your skills. Have you. Did you ever watch Vaatov fight in Glory?No.Artem Va hit off is the last guy to beat. To beat Alex in glory. And he's now nasty. He's his russian kickboxer. He's really, really fucking good. Super technical.Those kickboxers are crazy, dude.Yeah. Glory is. It's. Glory is the most. In my opinion, it's the most underrated and underappreciated of all the combat sports because the level that those guys are fighting at is so high.Yeah. I remember when I listened to your episode with within Ghana when you were talking about Cedric Doombe.Yes.I mean, I trained with him a little bit when I. I was living in Europe, and I walked into this gym, Joe, I'm not even lying, dude. I probably trained there twice, and I was like, I can't. I'm not fucking built for this. At that time, like, I was still young. Like, this was. I think it was. Could have been. It was around the go Khan Saki fight. Maybe before or after. But I walked into this gym in Belgium, and it was just full of dogs, and Cedric was there, and he was training. And the way that these guys were just drilling, I was fucked up. My legs, my arms, because they're. They're blocking in their offense. Defense drills are full speed. You know what I mean? Big gloves, shin guards. But they're like, and then back and is more applicable for an actual fight, like, developing skilled?I think so. I mean, like, especially if you want to kick or punch or do anything at, like, a full power.Right.Because I do notice that, like, like, from the tie pad work, that's where you practice your power. That's where it, like, the. On the bag and on the pads. It's more power, right. It's less like, boxing is more like focus mitts.Mm hmm.You don't really do power of boxing on ondem mitts, but with, like, with Muay Thai, it's like, this is my chance to be, like, how. How effective is my left kick at 100%, you know? And I'm, like, trusting this Guy to be able to catch it for me. So I prefer it. I make. I prefer the true essence and the true martial art of Muay Thai because it's. It's when you. When you kind of understand it and when you've kind of learned it from, you know, like, just different traditions and, like, different lineages. It's like you can. You can pick up on. Things are like, okay, now. Okay, yeah, this is. This is. I can fucking ruin someone if I, like, relax RIghT Here, and I'm standing just, like, an arm's length of THiS Guy, and I just want to really blast the Kick and be on BALaNcE. I could ruin this guy. You know?You also were telling me that they changed the way you were kicking.Yeah. So everyone, like, everyone has their own way. It's like, if you go to a jujitsu school and, like, an armbar is an armbar, but people have different ways of, like, setting it up or more effective to. To get it. The biggest thing that kind of Helped me was, for one, like, a lot of people, when they kick, they lean back to kind of counterbalance that weight. And my trainer always told me, like, he always had me, like, drive, like, drive my pressure forward. I actually wish that I was fucking training with you. I was here, side. No, I was like, damn, dude. Sick to fucking. To show some stuff to Rogan. But anyway, he was showing me, like, next time. Yeah, yeah, I got a whole gym here. Yeah, I saw it. It's probably way better now than, yeah, just moved in here, but kind of like this more like forward projection. So, like, all of my weight and plus the kick moving forward versus standing stationary, lifting my and going backward, you know, like, there's like a. No tilting, the turning of the hips, like, kicking with the shin and not the foot.Like, so there's a lot of little details that go into, like, making these things happen, you know, and also the speed of the kick, like, a lot. A big problem that I see in MMA for sure is that, like, man, I can see kicks coming from a mile away.Right.Because there's just so much just to get your leg up, you should just be able to fucking whip it and it still be as powerful and as effective.Yeah, you were saying something about the smoothness of the. They taught you how to relax more when you're throwing kicks.I have, like, you have to relax, like, the kicks. The leg is the heaviest limb on the body, you know, and just, like, if you want to knock someone out, you don't want. You don't want to tense up first. You got to be relaxed. It's got to be swift. So it's kind of like, in order to lift your leg, to throw it at is kicking the bag? How much of is kicking pads? How much of is kicking the air?Okay, so I kick the bag a lot. I just have a bag in my house, and everything's usually, like, slow, just getting my body to move and comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless.Just the technique?Yeah, just the technique. And, like, the flow and, like, the.Feeling when you do it at home. Like, how much warm up do you do before you do anything like that?It kind of is my warm up. So, yeah, I do it lightly until my intensity picks up and until I'm like, okay, I'm fucking tired. Right. You know, so I'll start off. Really? Yeah, I posted, like, a video the other day. It's like, of my routine. Like, I just, like, I put on this music, like thai country.Oh, let me see it.Yeah, it's. Yeah, actually, if you pull that up, you'll see, like, that's kind of my daily, like, my daily routine. So I'd say a lot of my training, it's like, probably 60% is just like shadow boxing. Light bag work, working on balance. Yeah.So just nice. See, like, what are you listening to?I'll put it on. That's like the classic.Thai music.Yeah. So try not, like, even here, I'm trying not to lean my head back and try to keep more of, like, a station, like a straight up and down posture while throwing the kick. It's very hard, but it's like, as you practice it, it only makes the kicks a little bit more effective.So this is at your house?Yeah, this is just my coverage.Your bag?130.And so you justnow, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.All right, let's go to the gym.I'm sure you.Bye, everybody. Later.

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lot of stuff, but not as much as they have now. I don't know. I wonder. It's see if you could find how many more events are there in 2024 than there were in 1936. We'll see if they say that. But the point is, like, everybody who did the Olympics before television, they just did it for national pride, just like winning the nationals. Wrestling, of course. You do it just for the glory of it. It 32 sports, 329 events, and 32 sports, including 28 core Olympic sports contested in 2016, 2020. And then what did it used to be in, like, 1936? 129 events, 25 disciplines. Hmm. So it's slightly less.

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Gotta love the AI overview, right?

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Nuts. Just quick, instantly give you all the things. All the things often considered controversial because they were held to showcase the Third Reich in Adolf Hitler's theories of aryan supremacy. All jacked up on coke.

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What a fucking maniac.

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Wow. Nuts. So back. My point is. So back then, there was no television revenue. There was no no one was making billions and billions and billions of dollars.

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Yeah.

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So the Olympics started with, you know, a very pure intention.

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Yeah.

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Pure intention of just, you know, winning, being the best, be the best from your country. Somewhere along the line, it became this fucking enormous business, and the athletes never got cut in.

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And no one's ever spoken up about it, have they?

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What do they. What can they do? They don't have any power. No one has any power.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Tv networks don't want to change. They're just stealing. They're just stealing money. Imagine if that was the case with the NBA or the NFL or UFC. Imagine if the athletes got zero money and everybody else is driving around Rolls Royces and living in crazy.

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Super crazy.

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You guys are fighting for glory, only glory. It's not about money.

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Represent your country.

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We've done studies, and it shows that when people fight for money, they don't fight that hard. tried to trick their colleges into posing as women. The association's president, Umar Kremlev, told Russia's task news agency at the time, according to the results of the test, it was proved that they have xy chromosomes. Such athletes were excluded from competition. So I don't think out sports is being honest about this particular thing, because there's outrage all like, I was kind of born in the big show, and, you know, like, as soon as I. As soon as I got into it, Dana was hyped because of my ultimate fighter performances. So he starts throwing me on, like, main cards, me, you know?Right, right.On the big show, I'm fighting in arenas already, all the shit. And then the go can go Kamsaki fight, and then, you know, huge. Yeah, dude, so that was a huge one. Yes.Go Khan had so much hype coming in yet. So much, you know, from glory champion k one.Yeah.Go Kong was a legende. Legend.Yeah. So it's. It's been kind of cool to finally get to that spot where, like, I feel good, you know, like, I feel good. I'm confident in what I, what I can do now. I know exactly where I'm going. I'm not like 1ft in, 1ft out. And, you know, I got one thing that I'm focused on, and that's being the champion.Well, the work showed in the Anthony Smith fight. It really did. I mean, this, this trajectory that you're on showed that you're, you're on a new level.Yeah, dude, new level. New level, for sure. And, you know, one thing that, it's kind of crazy, that helped me for the preparation of that fight because he took it last minute. Ten days notice, I was scheduled to fight another guy. He got pneumonia, like kind of the week, week before or something like that. But I did a lot of shooting for that, for that camp. I went shooting. And that changed my perspective because I'm not a guns guy.Oh, like shooting at a range?Yeah, and it changed, it just changed a lot.In what way?You know, we were talking about earlier how, like, like brilliance and, like, physical ability and, like, mental. Yeah, I never, I was never a gun guy. Like, my dad was murdered. So, like, from a young age, I just kind of had this, like, weird relationship with guns. And, yeah, I've had guns. Yeah, whatever pulled on me, blah, blah, blah. But when I made that decision to go and, like, actually learn from a guy who was a Navy SeAL, had a lot of expertise, had a really good way. Like, we spent hours of him just, like, explaining to me certain things, you know, gun safety, blah, blah, blah. Different situation, his mentality, clearing buildings, blah, blah, blah. So I'm taking all this in, all this information and processing it all, and then I finally start to shoot. And the power that I felt from the gun, you know, just like, the accuracy that I felt from shooting an AR 15, the understanding of, like, different caliber of bullets, I made me start to then formulate how I'm going to strike. Like, you know, like, man, I'm giving away secrets. Fuck it. So even on the, like, the Anthony Smith fight, like, my left hand, I'm like, okay, my left hand is five five six.That's, that's the ammunition for fucking, you know, for Ar. So, like, that's how I was kind of processing everything. So every time I threw my left hand, I'm thinking of the sound and the feeling of the AR. Really punk. Punk, you know, like, yeah. So I'm like, okay, like, feeling the target, whatever. Just kind of like, okay, what do I feel like fucking loading? Okay, load it. Bong. You know, like, I'm just thinking about every time I shot the gun, every time I shot the pistol, it's like, I was like, really? Yeah, dude. I so, like, it was. It really, like, I was able to kind of pull from that experience and then bring it into my fight. But then also, not only that, I was also thinking about, like, the things that this guy was telling me when it came to, like, when they're in combat, when they're clearing buildings, and so, like, just emotionally, it's so crazy, dude. Before that fight, my. My strength and conditioning, coach Lorenzo, he's a big, big shooter guy, ex military, you know, but big, big on shooting, big on self defense. And the day of the fight, you know, like, I'm obviously just in the zone, and I'm sitting in the living room because I stay with him during camps.We just do it that way. So I'm, like, sitting in living room, kind of just shaking back and forth because I have so much energy, and he knows that I've been putting in my experiences from shooting into my training, and it's crazy. I was sitting there, dude, and I have my hood on inside, and I'm just, like, rocking back and forth. And he comes, and he just fucking sets an ar 15 right there on my lap.Oh, wow.Walks away, like, just rocking back and forth, you know? And then we drive to the apex from the house, and then, wow. Like, so the whole. Yeah, the whole time. And in my head, even as we're walking out, he's like, 55656. And I'm like, yeah. And then in the first round, he's like, five, five, six. And I just. I kept saying that in my head, 5565.Wow.Just fucking, dude, it was crazy.That's an interesting visualization tool, because you think about it like, that's really how you want your strikes to land. You want them to be almost instantaneous from the time you pull the trigger.From the time you pull the trigger. Yeah, yeah. And you like, what's your right hand? Right hand was. Wasn't even my weapon. It was like, I wasn't looking at it like that. It was kind of more like range, really. Yeah, range finder. But I'd say, like, I'd say that when I did throw the jab, it was probably everything for that. Like, was five, five, six. So even my jab, I threw some pretty clean jabs in there. Yeah. But I wanted it to land straight, accurate, and, like, fast. And so it wasn't like, you know, shotgun. I'm not like, oh, boy.I'm thinking the sound, the reaction, precision, instantaneous.Instantaneous.Yeah.You know what I mean? Like, not a lot of recoil.Right?Like, blap. Yeah, sting, stink. Like, just like that.That's interesting to visualize it that way, you know, because, you know, sometimes you see guys throwing punches at a lower level, and you see them, like, grit and swing and everything's wide. Wide and.Yeah.Hoping it lands.Yeah. No, I was very intentional with every. Every movement, are gonna be really cool. Yeah, but the gold ones. The gold ones are cool.Oh, the gold ones are so cool.Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah, it is. That's the new. That's the new nucleus. See the container one, the baby blue? Yeah, that's pretty sick. It reminds me of the pride when they had the blue. Go blue gloves.Pride gloves are great, too.Yeah.Pride gloves also curved more. Yeah, they curved more. And you saw very few eye pokes in pride.Yeah. Who is that? What's something with an eye? He's something. Yeah, they were good. They were good gloves. But we'll see, man. We'll see. You know, hopefully probably five years. Five more years. But I don't know how long it took them to change the glove.I know it took a long time. I don't think they're going to do watch it as the fucking.Algorithm, Eddie Connor's got his eyes wide, wide open. Look, look, look, look at the punch. Comes to his notches and nose. And look at counter. This counter. So nice. Oh, my God. Right behind the ear. It's a perfect counter. It just rocks Eddie. The.Look at that dude. He didn't even break eye contact. He's still looking at it.And then the right hook. Look at this. Bang. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.Yeah, I know. So crazy that that got fed to me on my way here.Yeah. Going around today. Yeah. Prime McGregor was so smooth. Look at that. I'm it. It's gonna be memorable. It's gonna hopefully go down in the hall of fame one day, you know, like, something like that, you know, like, yeah, so, yeah, it's the guy that I think about at the moment and, you know, and my motivation to train and to get better and to be a better person, to be a better man, it's like, I'm fucking grateful for the guy in a way.You know what I mean? Like, it's not a disrespect thing. It's more of like, yeah, fuck, yeah. Thank you for giving me something to, like, wake up for every morning.Right. For being so dominant.Yeah.That is the thing about when you have an incredible champion. It really does make everyone inspired. It makes people rise.Yeah.Makes your skills. Have you. Did you ever watch Vaatov fight in Glory?No.Artem Va hit off is the last guy to beat. To beat Alex in glory. And he's now nasty. He's his russian kickboxer. He's really, really fucking good. Super technical.Those kickboxers are crazy, dude.Yeah. Glory is. It's. Glory is the most. In my opinion, it's the most underrated and underappreciated of all the combat sports because the level that those guys are fighting at is so high.Yeah. I remember when I listened to your episode with within Ghana when you were talking about Cedric Doombe.Yes.I mean, I trained with him a little bit when I. I was living in Europe, and I walked into this gym, Joe, I'm not even lying, dude. I probably trained there twice, and I was like, I can't. I'm not fucking built for this. At that time, like, I was still young. Like, this was. I think it was. Could have been. It was around the go Khan Saki fight. Maybe before or after. But I walked into this gym in Belgium, and it was just full of dogs, and Cedric was there, and he was training. And the way that these guys were just drilling, I was fucked up. My legs, my arms, because they're. They're blocking in their offense. Defense drills are full speed. You know what I mean? Big gloves, shin guards. But they're like, and then back and is more applicable for an actual fight, like, developing skilled?I think so. I mean, like, especially if you want to kick or punch or do anything at, like, a full power.Right.Because I do notice that, like, like, from the tie pad work, that's where you practice your power. That's where it, like, the. On the bag and on the pads. It's more power, right. It's less like, boxing is more like focus mitts.Mm hmm.You don't really do power of boxing on ondem mitts, but with, like, with Muay Thai, it's like, this is my chance to be, like, how. How effective is my left kick at 100%, you know? And I'm, like, trusting this Guy to be able to catch it for me. So I prefer it. I make. I prefer the true essence and the true martial art of Muay Thai because it's. It's when you. When you kind of understand it and when you've kind of learned it from, you know, like, just different traditions and, like, different lineages. It's like you can. You can pick up on. Things are like, okay, now. Okay, yeah, this is. This is. I can fucking ruin someone if I, like, relax RIghT Here, and I'm standing just, like, an arm's length of THiS Guy, and I just want to really blast the Kick and be on BALaNcE. I could ruin this guy. You know?You also were telling me that they changed the way you were kicking.Yeah. So everyone, like, everyone has their own way. It's like, if you go to a jujitsu school and, like, an armbar is an armbar, but people have different ways of, like, setting it up or more effective to. To get it. The biggest thing that kind of Helped me was, for one, like, a lot of people, when they kick, they lean back to kind of counterbalance that weight. And my trainer always told me, like, he always had me, like, drive, like, drive my pressure forward. I actually wish that I was fucking training with you. I was here, side. No, I was like, damn, dude. Sick to fucking. To show some stuff to Rogan. But anyway, he was showing me, like, next time. Yeah, yeah, I got a whole gym here. Yeah, I saw it. It's probably way better now than, yeah, just moved in here, but kind of like this more like forward projection. So, like, all of my weight and plus the kick moving forward versus standing stationary, lifting my and going backward, you know, like, there's like a. No tilting, the turning of the hips, like, kicking with the shin and not the foot.Like, so there's a lot of little details that go into, like, making these things happen, you know, and also the speed of the kick, like, a lot. A big problem that I see in MMA for sure is that, like, man, I can see kicks coming from a mile away.Right.Because there's just so much just to get your leg up, you should just be able to fucking whip it and it still be as powerful and as effective.Yeah, you were saying something about the smoothness of the. They taught you how to relax more when you're throwing kicks.I have, like, you have to relax, like, the kicks. The leg is the heaviest limb on the body, you know, and just, like, if you want to knock someone out, you don't want. You don't want to tense up first. You got to be relaxed. It's got to be swift. So it's kind of like, in order to lift your leg, to throw it at is kicking the bag? How much of is kicking pads? How much of is kicking the air?Okay, so I kick the bag a lot. I just have a bag in my house, and everything's usually, like, slow, just getting my body to move and comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless.Just the technique?Yeah, just the technique. And, like, the flow and, like, the.Feeling when you do it at home. Like, how much warm up do you do before you do anything like that?It kind of is my warm up. So, yeah, I do it lightly until my intensity picks up and until I'm like, okay, I'm fucking tired. Right. You know, so I'll start off. Really? Yeah, I posted, like, a video the other day. It's like, of my routine. Like, I just, like, I put on this music, like thai country.Oh, let me see it.Yeah, it's. Yeah, actually, if you pull that up, you'll see, like, that's kind of my daily, like, my daily routine. So I'd say a lot of my training, it's like, probably 60% is just like shadow boxing. Light bag work, working on balance. Yeah.So just nice. See, like, what are you listening to?I'll put it on. That's like the classic.Thai music.Yeah. So try not, like, even here, I'm trying not to lean my head back and try to keep more of, like, a station, like a straight up and down posture while throwing the kick. It's very hard, but it's like, as you practice it, it only makes the kicks a little bit more effective.So this is at your house?Yeah, this is just my coverage.Your bag?130.And so you justnow, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.All right, let's go to the gym.I'm sure you.Bye, everybody. Later.

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tried to trick their colleges into posing as women. The association's president, Umar Kremlev, told Russia's task news agency at the time, according to the results of the test, it was proved that they have xy chromosomes. Such athletes were excluded from competition. So I don't think out sports is being honest about this particular thing, because there's outrage all like, I was kind of born in the big show, and, you know, like, as soon as I. As soon as I got into it, Dana was hyped because of my ultimate fighter performances. So he starts throwing me on, like, main cards, me, you know?Right, right.On the big show, I'm fighting in arenas already, all the shit. And then the go can go Kamsaki fight, and then, you know, huge. Yeah, dude, so that was a huge one. Yes.Go Khan had so much hype coming in yet. So much, you know, from glory champion k one.Yeah.Go Kong was a legende. Legend.Yeah. So it's. It's been kind of cool to finally get to that spot where, like, I feel good, you know, like, I feel good. I'm confident in what I, what I can do now. I know exactly where I'm going. I'm not like 1ft in, 1ft out. And, you know, I got one thing that I'm focused on, and that's being the champion.Well, the work showed in the Anthony Smith fight. It really did. I mean, this, this trajectory that you're on showed that you're, you're on a new level.Yeah, dude, new level. New level, for sure. And, you know, one thing that, it's kind of crazy, that helped me for the preparation of that fight because he took it last minute. Ten days notice, I was scheduled to fight another guy. He got pneumonia, like kind of the week, week before or something like that. But I did a lot of shooting for that, for that camp. I went shooting. And that changed my perspective because I'm not a guns guy.Oh, like shooting at a range?Yeah, and it changed, it just changed a lot.In what way?You know, we were talking about earlier how, like, like brilliance and, like, physical ability and, like, mental. Yeah, I never, I was never a gun guy. Like, my dad was murdered. So, like, from a young age, I just kind of had this, like, weird relationship with guns. And, yeah, I've had guns. Yeah, whatever pulled on me, blah, blah, blah. But when I made that decision to go and, like, actually learn from a guy who was a Navy SeAL, had a lot of expertise, had a really good way. Like, we spent hours of him just, like, explaining to me certain things, you know, gun safety, blah, blah, blah. Different situation, his mentality, clearing buildings, blah, blah, blah. So I'm taking all this in, all this information and processing it all, and then I finally start to shoot. And the power that I felt from the gun, you know, just like, the accuracy that I felt from shooting an AR 15, the understanding of, like, different caliber of bullets, I made me start to then formulate how I'm going to strike. Like, you know, like, man, I'm giving away secrets. Fuck it. So even on the, like, the Anthony Smith fight, like, my left hand, I'm like, okay, my left hand is five five six.That's, that's the ammunition for fucking, you know, for Ar. So, like, that's how I was kind of processing everything. So every time I threw my left hand, I'm thinking of the sound and the feeling of the AR. Really punk. Punk, you know, like, yeah. So I'm like, okay, like, feeling the target, whatever. Just kind of like, okay, what do I feel like fucking loading? Okay, load it. Bong. You know, like, I'm just thinking about every time I shot the gun, every time I shot the pistol, it's like, I was like, really? Yeah, dude. I so, like, it was. It really, like, I was able to kind of pull from that experience and then bring it into my fight. But then also, not only that, I was also thinking about, like, the things that this guy was telling me when it came to, like, when they're in combat, when they're clearing buildings, and so, like, just emotionally, it's so crazy, dude. Before that fight, my. My strength and conditioning, coach Lorenzo, he's a big, big shooter guy, ex military, you know, but big, big on shooting, big on self defense. And the day of the fight, you know, like, I'm obviously just in the zone, and I'm sitting in the living room because I stay with him during camps.We just do it that way. So I'm, like, sitting in living room, kind of just shaking back and forth because I have so much energy, and he knows that I've been putting in my experiences from shooting into my training, and it's crazy. I was sitting there, dude, and I have my hood on inside, and I'm just, like, rocking back and forth. And he comes, and he just fucking sets an ar 15 right there on my lap.Oh, wow.Walks away, like, just rocking back and forth, you know? And then we drive to the apex from the house, and then, wow. Like, so the whole. Yeah, the whole time. And in my head, even as we're walking out, he's like, 55656. And I'm like, yeah. And then in the first round, he's like, five, five, six. And I just. I kept saying that in my head, 5565.Wow.Just fucking, dude, it was crazy.That's an interesting visualization tool, because you think about it like, that's really how you want your strikes to land. You want them to be almost instantaneous from the time you pull the trigger.From the time you pull the trigger. Yeah, yeah. And you like, what's your right hand? Right hand was. Wasn't even my weapon. It was like, I wasn't looking at it like that. It was kind of more like range, really. Yeah, range finder. But I'd say, like, I'd say that when I did throw the jab, it was probably everything for that. Like, was five, five, six. So even my jab, I threw some pretty clean jabs in there. Yeah. But I wanted it to land straight, accurate, and, like, fast. And so it wasn't like, you know, shotgun. I'm not like, oh, boy.I'm thinking the sound, the reaction, precision, instantaneous.Instantaneous.Yeah.You know what I mean? Like, not a lot of recoil.Right?Like, blap. Yeah, sting, stink. Like, just like that.That's interesting to visualize it that way, you know, because, you know, sometimes you see guys throwing punches at a lower level, and you see them, like, grit and swing and everything's wide. Wide and.Yeah.Hoping it lands.Yeah. No, I was very intentional with every. Every movement, are gonna be really cool. Yeah, but the gold ones. The gold ones are cool.Oh, the gold ones are so cool.Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah, it is. That's the new. That's the new nucleus. See the container one, the baby blue? Yeah, that's pretty sick. It reminds me of the pride when they had the blue. Go blue gloves.Pride gloves are great, too.Yeah.Pride gloves also curved more. Yeah, they curved more. And you saw very few eye pokes in pride.Yeah. Who is that? What's something with an eye? He's something. Yeah, they were good. They were good gloves. But we'll see, man. We'll see. You know, hopefully probably five years. Five more years. But I don't know how long it took them to change the glove.I know it took a long time. I don't think they're going to do watch it as the fucking.Algorithm, Eddie Connor's got his eyes wide, wide open. Look, look, look, look at the punch. Comes to his notches and nose. And look at counter. This counter. So nice. Oh, my God. Right behind the ear. It's a perfect counter. It just rocks Eddie. The.Look at that dude. He didn't even break eye contact. He's still looking at it.And then the right hook. Look at this. Bang. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.Yeah, I know. So crazy that that got fed to me on my way here.Yeah. Going around today. Yeah. Prime McGregor was so smooth. Look at that. I'm it. It's gonna be memorable. It's gonna hopefully go down in the hall of fame one day, you know, like, something like that, you know, like, yeah, so, yeah, it's the guy that I think about at the moment and, you know, and my motivation to train and to get better and to be a better person, to be a better man, it's like, I'm fucking grateful for the guy in a way.You know what I mean? Like, it's not a disrespect thing. It's more of like, yeah, fuck, yeah. Thank you for giving me something to, like, wake up for every morning.Right. For being so dominant.Yeah.That is the thing about when you have an incredible champion. It really does make everyone inspired. It makes people rise.Yeah.Makes your skills. Have you. Did you ever watch Vaatov fight in Glory?No.Artem Va hit off is the last guy to beat. To beat Alex in glory. And he's now nasty. He's his russian kickboxer. He's really, really fucking good. Super technical.Those kickboxers are crazy, dude.Yeah. Glory is. It's. Glory is the most. In my opinion, it's the most underrated and underappreciated of all the combat sports because the level that those guys are fighting at is so high.Yeah. I remember when I listened to your episode with within Ghana when you were talking about Cedric Doombe.Yes.I mean, I trained with him a little bit when I. I was living in Europe, and I walked into this gym, Joe, I'm not even lying, dude. I probably trained there twice, and I was like, I can't. I'm not fucking built for this. At that time, like, I was still young. Like, this was. I think it was. Could have been. It was around the go Khan Saki fight. Maybe before or after. But I walked into this gym in Belgium, and it was just full of dogs, and Cedric was there, and he was training. And the way that these guys were just drilling, I was fucked up. My legs, my arms, because they're. They're blocking in their offense. Defense drills are full speed. You know what I mean? Big gloves, shin guards. But they're like, and then back and is more applicable for an actual fight, like, developing skilled?I think so. I mean, like, especially if you want to kick or punch or do anything at, like, a full power.Right.Because I do notice that, like, like, from the tie pad work, that's where you practice your power. That's where it, like, the. On the bag and on the pads. It's more power, right. It's less like, boxing is more like focus mitts.Mm hmm.You don't really do power of boxing on ondem mitts, but with, like, with Muay Thai, it's like, this is my chance to be, like, how. How effective is my left kick at 100%, you know? And I'm, like, trusting this Guy to be able to catch it for me. So I prefer it. I make. I prefer the true essence and the true martial art of Muay Thai because it's. It's when you. When you kind of understand it and when you've kind of learned it from, you know, like, just different traditions and, like, different lineages. It's like you can. You can pick up on. Things are like, okay, now. Okay, yeah, this is. This is. I can fucking ruin someone if I, like, relax RIghT Here, and I'm standing just, like, an arm's length of THiS Guy, and I just want to really blast the Kick and be on BALaNcE. I could ruin this guy. You know?You also were telling me that they changed the way you were kicking.Yeah. So everyone, like, everyone has their own way. It's like, if you go to a jujitsu school and, like, an armbar is an armbar, but people have different ways of, like, setting it up or more effective to. To get it. The biggest thing that kind of Helped me was, for one, like, a lot of people, when they kick, they lean back to kind of counterbalance that weight. And my trainer always told me, like, he always had me, like, drive, like, drive my pressure forward. I actually wish that I was fucking training with you. I was here, side. No, I was like, damn, dude. Sick to fucking. To show some stuff to Rogan. But anyway, he was showing me, like, next time. Yeah, yeah, I got a whole gym here. Yeah, I saw it. It's probably way better now than, yeah, just moved in here, but kind of like this more like forward projection. So, like, all of my weight and plus the kick moving forward versus standing stationary, lifting my and going backward, you know, like, there's like a. No tilting, the turning of the hips, like, kicking with the shin and not the foot.Like, so there's a lot of little details that go into, like, making these things happen, you know, and also the speed of the kick, like, a lot. A big problem that I see in MMA for sure is that, like, man, I can see kicks coming from a mile away.Right.Because there's just so much just to get your leg up, you should just be able to fucking whip it and it still be as powerful and as effective.Yeah, you were saying something about the smoothness of the. They taught you how to relax more when you're throwing kicks.I have, like, you have to relax, like, the kicks. The leg is the heaviest limb on the body, you know, and just, like, if you want to knock someone out, you don't want. You don't want to tense up first. You got to be relaxed. It's got to be swift. So it's kind of like, in order to lift your leg, to throw it at is kicking the bag? How much of is kicking pads? How much of is kicking the air?Okay, so I kick the bag a lot. I just have a bag in my house, and everything's usually, like, slow, just getting my body to move and comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless.Just the technique?Yeah, just the technique. And, like, the flow and, like, the.Feeling when you do it at home. Like, how much warm up do you do before you do anything like that?It kind of is my warm up. So, yeah, I do it lightly until my intensity picks up and until I'm like, okay, I'm fucking tired. Right. You know, so I'll start off. Really? Yeah, I posted, like, a video the other day. It's like, of my routine. Like, I just, like, I put on this music, like thai country.Oh, let me see it.Yeah, it's. Yeah, actually, if you pull that up, you'll see, like, that's kind of my daily, like, my daily routine. So I'd say a lot of my training, it's like, probably 60% is just like shadow boxing. Light bag work, working on balance. Yeah.So just nice. See, like, what are you listening to?I'll put it on. That's like the classic.Thai music.Yeah. So try not, like, even here, I'm trying not to lean my head back and try to keep more of, like, a station, like a straight up and down posture while throwing the kick. It's very hard, but it's like, as you practice it, it only makes the kicks a little bit more effective.So this is at your house?Yeah, this is just my coverage.Your bag?130.And so you justnow, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.All right, let's go to the gym.I'm sure you.Bye, everybody. Later.

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like, I was kind of born in the big show, and, you know, like, as soon as I. As soon as I got into it, Dana was hyped because of my ultimate fighter performances. So he starts throwing me on, like, main cards, me, you know?

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Right, right.

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On the big show, I'm fighting in arenas already, all the shit. And then the go can go Kamsaki fight, and then, you know, huge. Yeah, dude, so that was a huge one. Yes.

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Go Khan had so much hype coming in yet. So much, you know, from glory champion k one.

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Yeah.

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Go Kong was a legende. Legend.

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Yeah. So it's. It's been kind of cool to finally get to that spot where, like, I feel good, you know, like, I feel good. I'm confident in what I, what I can do now. I know exactly where I'm going. I'm not like 1ft in, 1ft out. And, you know, I got one thing that I'm focused on, and that's being the champion.

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Well, the work showed in the Anthony Smith fight. It really did. I mean, this, this trajectory that you're on showed that you're, you're on a new level.

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Yeah, dude, new level. New level, for sure. And, you know, one thing that, it's kind of crazy, that helped me for the preparation of that fight because he took it last minute. Ten days notice, I was scheduled to fight another guy. He got pneumonia, like kind of the week, week before or something like that. But I did a lot of shooting for that, for that camp. I went shooting. And that changed my perspective because I'm not a guns guy.

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Oh, like shooting at a range?

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Yeah, and it changed, it just changed a lot.

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In what way?

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You know, we were talking about earlier how, like, like brilliance and, like, physical ability and, like, mental. Yeah, I never, I was never a gun guy. Like, my dad was murdered. So, like, from a young age, I just kind of had this, like, weird relationship with guns. And, yeah, I've had guns. Yeah, whatever pulled on me, blah, blah, blah. But when I made that decision to go and, like, actually learn from a guy who was a Navy SeAL, had a lot of expertise, had a really good way. Like, we spent hours of him just, like, explaining to me certain things, you know, gun safety, blah, blah, blah. Different situation, his mentality, clearing buildings, blah, blah, blah. So I'm taking all this in, all this information and processing it all, and then I finally start to shoot. And the power that I felt from the gun, you know, just like, the accuracy that I felt from shooting an AR 15, the understanding of, like, different caliber of bullets, I made me start to then formulate how I'm going to strike. Like, you know, like, man, I'm giving away secrets. Fuck it. So even on the, like, the Anthony Smith fight, like, my left hand, I'm like, okay, my left hand is five five six.

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That's, that's the ammunition for fucking, you know, for Ar. So, like, that's how I was kind of processing everything. So every time I threw my left hand, I'm thinking of the sound and the feeling of the AR. Really punk. Punk, you know, like, yeah. So I'm like, okay, like, feeling the target, whatever. Just kind of like, okay, what do I feel like fucking loading? Okay, load it. Bong. You know, like, I'm just thinking about every time I shot the gun, every time I shot the pistol, it's like, I was like, really? Yeah, dude. I so, like, it was. It really, like, I was able to kind of pull from that experience and then bring it into my fight. But then also, not only that, I was also thinking about, like, the things that this guy was telling me when it came to, like, when they're in combat, when they're clearing buildings, and so, like, just emotionally, it's so crazy, dude. Before that fight, my. My strength and conditioning, coach Lorenzo, he's a big, big shooter guy, ex military, you know, but big, big on shooting, big on self defense. And the day of the fight, you know, like, I'm obviously just in the zone, and I'm sitting in the living room because I stay with him during camps.

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We just do it that way. So I'm, like, sitting in living room, kind of just shaking back and forth because I have so much energy, and he knows that I've been putting in my experiences from shooting into my training, and it's crazy. I was sitting there, dude, and I have my hood on inside, and I'm just, like, rocking back and forth. And he comes, and he just fucking sets an ar 15 right there on my lap.

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Oh, wow.

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Walks away, like, just rocking back and forth, you know? And then we drive to the apex from the house, and then, wow. Like, so the whole. Yeah, the whole time. And in my head, even as we're walking out, he's like, 55656. And I'm like, yeah. And then in the first round, he's like, five, five, six. And I just. I kept saying that in my head, 5565.

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Wow.

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Just fucking, dude, it was crazy.

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That's an interesting visualization tool, because you think about it like, that's really how you want your strikes to land. You want them to be almost instantaneous from the time you pull the trigger.

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From the time you pull the trigger. Yeah, yeah. And you like, what's your right hand? Right hand was. Wasn't even my weapon. It was like, I wasn't looking at it like that. It was kind of more like range, really. Yeah, range finder. But I'd say, like, I'd say that when I did throw the jab, it was probably everything for that. Like, was five, five, six. So even my jab, I threw some pretty clean jabs in there. Yeah. But I wanted it to land straight, accurate, and, like, fast. And so it wasn't like, you know, shotgun. I'm not like, oh, boy.

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I'm thinking the sound, the reaction, precision, instantaneous.

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Instantaneous.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean? Like, not a lot of recoil.

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Right?

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Like, blap. Yeah, sting, stink. Like, just like that.

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That's interesting to visualize it that way, you know, because, you know, sometimes you see guys throwing punches at a lower level, and you see them, like, grit and swing and everything's wide. Wide and.

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Yeah.

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Hoping it lands.

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Yeah. No, I was very intentional with every. Every movement, are gonna be really cool. Yeah, but the gold ones. The gold ones are cool.Oh, the gold ones are so cool.Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah, it is. That's the new. That's the new nucleus. See the container one, the baby blue? Yeah, that's pretty sick. It reminds me of the pride when they had the blue. Go blue gloves.Pride gloves are great, too.Yeah.Pride gloves also curved more. Yeah, they curved more. And you saw very few eye pokes in pride.Yeah. Who is that? What's something with an eye? He's something. Yeah, they were good. They were good gloves. But we'll see, man. We'll see. You know, hopefully probably five years. Five more years. But I don't know how long it took them to change the glove.I know it took a long time. I don't think they're going to do watch it as the fucking.Algorithm, Eddie Connor's got his eyes wide, wide open. Look, look, look, look at the punch. Comes to his notches and nose. And look at counter. This counter. So nice. Oh, my God. Right behind the ear. It's a perfect counter. It just rocks Eddie. The.Look at that dude. He didn't even break eye contact. He's still looking at it.And then the right hook. Look at this. Bang. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.Yeah, I know. So crazy that that got fed to me on my way here.Yeah. Going around today. Yeah. Prime McGregor was so smooth. Look at that. I'm it. It's gonna be memorable. It's gonna hopefully go down in the hall of fame one day, you know, like, something like that, you know, like, yeah, so, yeah, it's the guy that I think about at the moment and, you know, and my motivation to train and to get better and to be a better person, to be a better man, it's like, I'm fucking grateful for the guy in a way.You know what I mean? Like, it's not a disrespect thing. It's more of like, yeah, fuck, yeah. Thank you for giving me something to, like, wake up for every morning.Right. For being so dominant.Yeah.That is the thing about when you have an incredible champion. It really does make everyone inspired. It makes people rise.Yeah.Makes your skills. Have you. Did you ever watch Vaatov fight in Glory?No.Artem Va hit off is the last guy to beat. To beat Alex in glory. And he's now nasty. He's his russian kickboxer. He's really, really fucking good. Super technical.Those kickboxers are crazy, dude.Yeah. Glory is. It's. Glory is the most. In my opinion, it's the most underrated and underappreciated of all the combat sports because the level that those guys are fighting at is so high.Yeah. I remember when I listened to your episode with within Ghana when you were talking about Cedric Doombe.Yes.I mean, I trained with him a little bit when I. I was living in Europe, and I walked into this gym, Joe, I'm not even lying, dude. I probably trained there twice, and I was like, I can't. I'm not fucking built for this. At that time, like, I was still young. Like, this was. I think it was. Could have been. It was around the go Khan Saki fight. Maybe before or after. But I walked into this gym in Belgium, and it was just full of dogs, and Cedric was there, and he was training. And the way that these guys were just drilling, I was fucked up. My legs, my arms, because they're. They're blocking in their offense. Defense drills are full speed. You know what I mean? Big gloves, shin guards. But they're like, and then back and is more applicable for an actual fight, like, developing skilled?I think so. I mean, like, especially if you want to kick or punch or do anything at, like, a full power.Right.Because I do notice that, like, like, from the tie pad work, that's where you practice your power. That's where it, like, the. On the bag and on the pads. It's more power, right. It's less like, boxing is more like focus mitts.Mm hmm.You don't really do power of boxing on ondem mitts, but with, like, with Muay Thai, it's like, this is my chance to be, like, how. How effective is my left kick at 100%, you know? And I'm, like, trusting this Guy to be able to catch it for me. So I prefer it. I make. I prefer the true essence and the true martial art of Muay Thai because it's. It's when you. When you kind of understand it and when you've kind of learned it from, you know, like, just different traditions and, like, different lineages. It's like you can. You can pick up on. Things are like, okay, now. Okay, yeah, this is. This is. I can fucking ruin someone if I, like, relax RIghT Here, and I'm standing just, like, an arm's length of THiS Guy, and I just want to really blast the Kick and be on BALaNcE. I could ruin this guy. You know?You also were telling me that they changed the way you were kicking.Yeah. So everyone, like, everyone has their own way. It's like, if you go to a jujitsu school and, like, an armbar is an armbar, but people have different ways of, like, setting it up or more effective to. To get it. The biggest thing that kind of Helped me was, for one, like, a lot of people, when they kick, they lean back to kind of counterbalance that weight. And my trainer always told me, like, he always had me, like, drive, like, drive my pressure forward. I actually wish that I was fucking training with you. I was here, side. No, I was like, damn, dude. Sick to fucking. To show some stuff to Rogan. But anyway, he was showing me, like, next time. Yeah, yeah, I got a whole gym here. Yeah, I saw it. It's probably way better now than, yeah, just moved in here, but kind of like this more like forward projection. So, like, all of my weight and plus the kick moving forward versus standing stationary, lifting my and going backward, you know, like, there's like a. No tilting, the turning of the hips, like, kicking with the shin and not the foot.Like, so there's a lot of little details that go into, like, making these things happen, you know, and also the speed of the kick, like, a lot. A big problem that I see in MMA for sure is that, like, man, I can see kicks coming from a mile away.Right.Because there's just so much just to get your leg up, you should just be able to fucking whip it and it still be as powerful and as effective.Yeah, you were saying something about the smoothness of the. They taught you how to relax more when you're throwing kicks.I have, like, you have to relax, like, the kicks. The leg is the heaviest limb on the body, you know, and just, like, if you want to knock someone out, you don't want. You don't want to tense up first. You got to be relaxed. It's got to be swift. So it's kind of like, in order to lift your leg, to throw it at is kicking the bag? How much of is kicking pads? How much of is kicking the air?Okay, so I kick the bag a lot. I just have a bag in my house, and everything's usually, like, slow, just getting my body to move and comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless.Just the technique?Yeah, just the technique. And, like, the flow and, like, the.Feeling when you do it at home. Like, how much warm up do you do before you do anything like that?It kind of is my warm up. So, yeah, I do it lightly until my intensity picks up and until I'm like, okay, I'm fucking tired. Right. You know, so I'll start off. Really? Yeah, I posted, like, a video the other day. It's like, of my routine. Like, I just, like, I put on this music, like thai country.Oh, let me see it.Yeah, it's. Yeah, actually, if you pull that up, you'll see, like, that's kind of my daily, like, my daily routine. So I'd say a lot of my training, it's like, probably 60% is just like shadow boxing. Light bag work, working on balance. Yeah.So just nice. See, like, what are you listening to?I'll put it on. That's like the classic.Thai music.Yeah. So try not, like, even here, I'm trying not to lean my head back and try to keep more of, like, a station, like a straight up and down posture while throwing the kick. It's very hard, but it's like, as you practice it, it only makes the kicks a little bit more effective.So this is at your house?Yeah, this is just my coverage.Your bag?130.And so you justnow, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.All right, let's go to the gym.I'm sure you.Bye, everybody. Later.

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are gonna be really cool. Yeah, but the gold ones. The gold ones are cool.

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Oh, the gold ones are so cool.

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Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah, it is. That's the new. That's the new nucleus. See the container one, the baby blue? Yeah, that's pretty sick. It reminds me of the pride when they had the blue. Go blue gloves.

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Pride gloves are great, too.

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Yeah.

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Pride gloves also curved more. Yeah, they curved more. And you saw very few eye pokes in pride.

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Yeah. Who is that? What's something with an eye? He's something. Yeah, they were good. They were good gloves. But we'll see, man. We'll see. You know, hopefully probably five years. Five more years. But I don't know how long it took them to change the glove.

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I know it took a long time. I don't think they're going to do watch it as the fucking.Algorithm, Eddie Connor's got his eyes wide, wide open. Look, look, look, look at the punch. Comes to his notches and nose. And look at counter. This counter. So nice. Oh, my God. Right behind the ear. It's a perfect counter. It just rocks Eddie. The.Look at that dude. He didn't even break eye contact. He's still looking at it.And then the right hook. Look at this. Bang. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.Yeah, I know. So crazy that that got fed to me on my way here.Yeah. Going around today. Yeah. Prime McGregor was so smooth. Look at that. I'm it. It's gonna be memorable. It's gonna hopefully go down in the hall of fame one day, you know, like, something like that, you know, like, yeah, so, yeah, it's the guy that I think about at the moment and, you know, and my motivation to train and to get better and to be a better person, to be a better man, it's like, I'm fucking grateful for the guy in a way.You know what I mean? Like, it's not a disrespect thing. It's more of like, yeah, fuck, yeah. Thank you for giving me something to, like, wake up for every morning.Right. For being so dominant.Yeah.That is the thing about when you have an incredible champion. It really does make everyone inspired. It makes people rise.Yeah.Makes your skills. Have you. Did you ever watch Vaatov fight in Glory?No.Artem Va hit off is the last guy to beat. To beat Alex in glory. And he's now nasty. He's his russian kickboxer. He's really, really fucking good. Super technical.Those kickboxers are crazy, dude.Yeah. Glory is. It's. Glory is the most. In my opinion, it's the most underrated and underappreciated of all the combat sports because the level that those guys are fighting at is so high.Yeah. I remember when I listened to your episode with within Ghana when you were talking about Cedric Doombe.Yes.I mean, I trained with him a little bit when I. I was living in Europe, and I walked into this gym, Joe, I'm not even lying, dude. I probably trained there twice, and I was like, I can't. I'm not fucking built for this. At that time, like, I was still young. Like, this was. I think it was. Could have been. It was around the go Khan Saki fight. Maybe before or after. But I walked into this gym in Belgium, and it was just full of dogs, and Cedric was there, and he was training. And the way that these guys were just drilling, I was fucked up. My legs, my arms, because they're. They're blocking in their offense. Defense drills are full speed. You know what I mean? Big gloves, shin guards. But they're like, and then back and is more applicable for an actual fight, like, developing skilled?I think so. I mean, like, especially if you want to kick or punch or do anything at, like, a full power.Right.Because I do notice that, like, like, from the tie pad work, that's where you practice your power. That's where it, like, the. On the bag and on the pads. It's more power, right. It's less like, boxing is more like focus mitts.Mm hmm.You don't really do power of boxing on ondem mitts, but with, like, with Muay Thai, it's like, this is my chance to be, like, how. How effective is my left kick at 100%, you know? And I'm, like, trusting this Guy to be able to catch it for me. So I prefer it. I make. I prefer the true essence and the true martial art of Muay Thai because it's. It's when you. When you kind of understand it and when you've kind of learned it from, you know, like, just different traditions and, like, different lineages. It's like you can. You can pick up on. Things are like, okay, now. Okay, yeah, this is. This is. I can fucking ruin someone if I, like, relax RIghT Here, and I'm standing just, like, an arm's length of THiS Guy, and I just want to really blast the Kick and be on BALaNcE. I could ruin this guy. You know?You also were telling me that they changed the way you were kicking.Yeah. So everyone, like, everyone has their own way. It's like, if you go to a jujitsu school and, like, an armbar is an armbar, but people have different ways of, like, setting it up or more effective to. To get it. The biggest thing that kind of Helped me was, for one, like, a lot of people, when they kick, they lean back to kind of counterbalance that weight. And my trainer always told me, like, he always had me, like, drive, like, drive my pressure forward. I actually wish that I was fucking training with you. I was here, side. No, I was like, damn, dude. Sick to fucking. To show some stuff to Rogan. But anyway, he was showing me, like, next time. Yeah, yeah, I got a whole gym here. Yeah, I saw it. It's probably way better now than, yeah, just moved in here, but kind of like this more like forward projection. So, like, all of my weight and plus the kick moving forward versus standing stationary, lifting my and going backward, you know, like, there's like a. No tilting, the turning of the hips, like, kicking with the shin and not the foot.Like, so there's a lot of little details that go into, like, making these things happen, you know, and also the speed of the kick, like, a lot. A big problem that I see in MMA for sure is that, like, man, I can see kicks coming from a mile away.Right.Because there's just so much just to get your leg up, you should just be able to fucking whip it and it still be as powerful and as effective.Yeah, you were saying something about the smoothness of the. They taught you how to relax more when you're throwing kicks.I have, like, you have to relax, like, the kicks. The leg is the heaviest limb on the body, you know, and just, like, if you want to knock someone out, you don't want. You don't want to tense up first. You got to be relaxed. It's got to be swift. So it's kind of like, in order to lift your leg, to throw it at is kicking the bag? How much of is kicking pads? How much of is kicking the air?Okay, so I kick the bag a lot. I just have a bag in my house, and everything's usually, like, slow, just getting my body to move and comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless.Just the technique?Yeah, just the technique. And, like, the flow and, like, the.Feeling when you do it at home. Like, how much warm up do you do before you do anything like that?It kind of is my warm up. So, yeah, I do it lightly until my intensity picks up and until I'm like, okay, I'm fucking tired. Right. You know, so I'll start off. Really? Yeah, I posted, like, a video the other day. It's like, of my routine. Like, I just, like, I put on this music, like thai country.Oh, let me see it.Yeah, it's. Yeah, actually, if you pull that up, you'll see, like, that's kind of my daily, like, my daily routine. So I'd say a lot of my training, it's like, probably 60% is just like shadow boxing. Light bag work, working on balance. Yeah.So just nice. See, like, what are you listening to?I'll put it on. That's like the classic.Thai music.Yeah. So try not, like, even here, I'm trying not to lean my head back and try to keep more of, like, a station, like a straight up and down posture while throwing the kick. It's very hard, but it's like, as you practice it, it only makes the kicks a little bit more effective.So this is at your house?Yeah, this is just my coverage.Your bag?130.And so you justnow, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.All right, let's go to the gym.I'm sure you.Bye, everybody. Later.

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watch it as the fucking.

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Algorithm, Eddie Connor's got his eyes wide, wide open. Look, look, look, look at the punch. Comes to his notches and nose. And look at counter. This counter. So nice. Oh, my God. Right behind the ear. It's a perfect counter. It just rocks Eddie. The.

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Look at that dude. He didn't even break eye contact. He's still looking at it.

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And then the right hook. Look at this. Bang. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

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Yeah, I know. So crazy that that got fed to me on my way here.

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Yeah. Going around today. Yeah. Prime McGregor was so smooth. Look at that. I'm it. It's gonna be memorable. It's gonna hopefully go down in the hall of fame one day, you know, like, something like that, you know, like, yeah, so, yeah, it's the guy that I think about at the moment and, you know, and my motivation to train and to get better and to be a better person, to be a better man, it's like, I'm fucking grateful for the guy in a way.You know what I mean? Like, it's not a disrespect thing. It's more of like, yeah, fuck, yeah. Thank you for giving me something to, like, wake up for every morning.Right. For being so dominant.Yeah.That is the thing about when you have an incredible champion. It really does make everyone inspired. It makes people rise.Yeah.Makes your skills. Have you. Did you ever watch Vaatov fight in Glory?No.Artem Va hit off is the last guy to beat. To beat Alex in glory. And he's now nasty. He's his russian kickboxer. He's really, really fucking good. Super technical.Those kickboxers are crazy, dude.Yeah. Glory is. It's. Glory is the most. In my opinion, it's the most underrated and underappreciated of all the combat sports because the level that those guys are fighting at is so high.Yeah. I remember when I listened to your episode with within Ghana when you were talking about Cedric Doombe.Yes.I mean, I trained with him a little bit when I. I was living in Europe, and I walked into this gym, Joe, I'm not even lying, dude. I probably trained there twice, and I was like, I can't. I'm not fucking built for this. At that time, like, I was still young. Like, this was. I think it was. Could have been. It was around the go Khan Saki fight. Maybe before or after. But I walked into this gym in Belgium, and it was just full of dogs, and Cedric was there, and he was training. And the way that these guys were just drilling, I was fucked up. My legs, my arms, because they're. They're blocking in their offense. Defense drills are full speed. You know what I mean? Big gloves, shin guards. But they're like, and then back and is more applicable for an actual fight, like, developing skilled?I think so. I mean, like, especially if you want to kick or punch or do anything at, like, a full power.Right.Because I do notice that, like, like, from the tie pad work, that's where you practice your power. That's where it, like, the. On the bag and on the pads. It's more power, right. It's less like, boxing is more like focus mitts.Mm hmm.You don't really do power of boxing on ondem mitts, but with, like, with Muay Thai, it's like, this is my chance to be, like, how. How effective is my left kick at 100%, you know? And I'm, like, trusting this Guy to be able to catch it for me. So I prefer it. I make. I prefer the true essence and the true martial art of Muay Thai because it's. It's when you. When you kind of understand it and when you've kind of learned it from, you know, like, just different traditions and, like, different lineages. It's like you can. You can pick up on. Things are like, okay, now. Okay, yeah, this is. This is. I can fucking ruin someone if I, like, relax RIghT Here, and I'm standing just, like, an arm's length of THiS Guy, and I just want to really blast the Kick and be on BALaNcE. I could ruin this guy. You know?You also were telling me that they changed the way you were kicking.Yeah. So everyone, like, everyone has their own way. It's like, if you go to a jujitsu school and, like, an armbar is an armbar, but people have different ways of, like, setting it up or more effective to. To get it. The biggest thing that kind of Helped me was, for one, like, a lot of people, when they kick, they lean back to kind of counterbalance that weight. And my trainer always told me, like, he always had me, like, drive, like, drive my pressure forward. I actually wish that I was fucking training with you. I was here, side. No, I was like, damn, dude. Sick to fucking. To show some stuff to Rogan. But anyway, he was showing me, like, next time. Yeah, yeah, I got a whole gym here. Yeah, I saw it. It's probably way better now than, yeah, just moved in here, but kind of like this more like forward projection. So, like, all of my weight and plus the kick moving forward versus standing stationary, lifting my and going backward, you know, like, there's like a. No tilting, the turning of the hips, like, kicking with the shin and not the foot.Like, so there's a lot of little details that go into, like, making these things happen, you know, and also the speed of the kick, like, a lot. A big problem that I see in MMA for sure is that, like, man, I can see kicks coming from a mile away.Right.Because there's just so much just to get your leg up, you should just be able to fucking whip it and it still be as powerful and as effective.Yeah, you were saying something about the smoothness of the. They taught you how to relax more when you're throwing kicks.I have, like, you have to relax, like, the kicks. The leg is the heaviest limb on the body, you know, and just, like, if you want to knock someone out, you don't want. You don't want to tense up first. You got to be relaxed. It's got to be swift. So it's kind of like, in order to lift your leg, to throw it at is kicking the bag? How much of is kicking pads? How much of is kicking the air?Okay, so I kick the bag a lot. I just have a bag in my house, and everything's usually, like, slow, just getting my body to move and comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless.Just the technique?Yeah, just the technique. And, like, the flow and, like, the.Feeling when you do it at home. Like, how much warm up do you do before you do anything like that?It kind of is my warm up. So, yeah, I do it lightly until my intensity picks up and until I'm like, okay, I'm fucking tired. Right. You know, so I'll start off. Really? Yeah, I posted, like, a video the other day. It's like, of my routine. Like, I just, like, I put on this music, like thai country.Oh, let me see it.Yeah, it's. Yeah, actually, if you pull that up, you'll see, like, that's kind of my daily, like, my daily routine. So I'd say a lot of my training, it's like, probably 60% is just like shadow boxing. Light bag work, working on balance. Yeah.So just nice. See, like, what are you listening to?I'll put it on. That's like the classic.Thai music.Yeah. So try not, like, even here, I'm trying not to lean my head back and try to keep more of, like, a station, like a straight up and down posture while throwing the kick. It's very hard, but it's like, as you practice it, it only makes the kicks a little bit more effective.So this is at your house?Yeah, this is just my coverage.Your bag?130.And so you justnow, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.All right, let's go to the gym.I'm sure you.Bye, everybody. Later.

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it. It's gonna be memorable. It's gonna hopefully go down in the hall of fame one day, you know, like, something like that, you know, like, yeah, so, yeah, it's the guy that I think about at the moment and, you know, and my motivation to train and to get better and to be a better person, to be a better man, it's like, I'm fucking grateful for the guy in a way.

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You know what I mean? Like, it's not a disrespect thing. It's more of like, yeah, fuck, yeah. Thank you for giving me something to, like, wake up for every morning.

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Right. For being so dominant.

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Yeah.

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That is the thing about when you have an incredible champion. It really does make everyone inspired. It makes people rise.

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Yeah.

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Makes your skills. Have you. Did you ever watch Vaatov fight in Glory?

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No.

[02:02:03]

Artem Va hit off is the last guy to beat. To beat Alex in glory. And he's now nasty. He's his russian kickboxer. He's really, really fucking good. Super technical.

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Those kickboxers are crazy, dude.

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Yeah. Glory is. It's. Glory is the most. In my opinion, it's the most underrated and underappreciated of all the combat sports because the level that those guys are fighting at is so high.

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Yeah. I remember when I listened to your episode with within Ghana when you were talking about Cedric Doombe.

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Yes.

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I mean, I trained with him a little bit when I. I was living in Europe, and I walked into this gym, Joe, I'm not even lying, dude. I probably trained there twice, and I was like, I can't. I'm not fucking built for this. At that time, like, I was still young. Like, this was. I think it was. Could have been. It was around the go Khan Saki fight. Maybe before or after. But I walked into this gym in Belgium, and it was just full of dogs, and Cedric was there, and he was training. And the way that these guys were just drilling, I was fucked up. My legs, my arms, because they're. They're blocking in their offense. Defense drills are full speed. You know what I mean? Big gloves, shin guards. But they're like, and then back and is more applicable for an actual fight, like, developing skilled?I think so. I mean, like, especially if you want to kick or punch or do anything at, like, a full power.Right.Because I do notice that, like, like, from the tie pad work, that's where you practice your power. That's where it, like, the. On the bag and on the pads. It's more power, right. It's less like, boxing is more like focus mitts.Mm hmm.You don't really do power of boxing on ondem mitts, but with, like, with Muay Thai, it's like, this is my chance to be, like, how. How effective is my left kick at 100%, you know? And I'm, like, trusting this Guy to be able to catch it for me. So I prefer it. I make. I prefer the true essence and the true martial art of Muay Thai because it's. It's when you. When you kind of understand it and when you've kind of learned it from, you know, like, just different traditions and, like, different lineages. It's like you can. You can pick up on. Things are like, okay, now. Okay, yeah, this is. This is. I can fucking ruin someone if I, like, relax RIghT Here, and I'm standing just, like, an arm's length of THiS Guy, and I just want to really blast the Kick and be on BALaNcE. I could ruin this guy. You know?You also were telling me that they changed the way you were kicking.Yeah. So everyone, like, everyone has their own way. It's like, if you go to a jujitsu school and, like, an armbar is an armbar, but people have different ways of, like, setting it up or more effective to. To get it. The biggest thing that kind of Helped me was, for one, like, a lot of people, when they kick, they lean back to kind of counterbalance that weight. And my trainer always told me, like, he always had me, like, drive, like, drive my pressure forward. I actually wish that I was fucking training with you. I was here, side. No, I was like, damn, dude. Sick to fucking. To show some stuff to Rogan. But anyway, he was showing me, like, next time. Yeah, yeah, I got a whole gym here. Yeah, I saw it. It's probably way better now than, yeah, just moved in here, but kind of like this more like forward projection. So, like, all of my weight and plus the kick moving forward versus standing stationary, lifting my and going backward, you know, like, there's like a. No tilting, the turning of the hips, like, kicking with the shin and not the foot.Like, so there's a lot of little details that go into, like, making these things happen, you know, and also the speed of the kick, like, a lot. A big problem that I see in MMA for sure is that, like, man, I can see kicks coming from a mile away.Right.Because there's just so much just to get your leg up, you should just be able to fucking whip it and it still be as powerful and as effective.Yeah, you were saying something about the smoothness of the. They taught you how to relax more when you're throwing kicks.I have, like, you have to relax, like, the kicks. The leg is the heaviest limb on the body, you know, and just, like, if you want to knock someone out, you don't want. You don't want to tense up first. You got to be relaxed. It's got to be swift. So it's kind of like, in order to lift your leg, to throw it at is kicking the bag? How much of is kicking pads? How much of is kicking the air?Okay, so I kick the bag a lot. I just have a bag in my house, and everything's usually, like, slow, just getting my body to move and comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless.Just the technique?Yeah, just the technique. And, like, the flow and, like, the.Feeling when you do it at home. Like, how much warm up do you do before you do anything like that?It kind of is my warm up. So, yeah, I do it lightly until my intensity picks up and until I'm like, okay, I'm fucking tired. Right. You know, so I'll start off. Really? Yeah, I posted, like, a video the other day. It's like, of my routine. Like, I just, like, I put on this music, like thai country.Oh, let me see it.Yeah, it's. Yeah, actually, if you pull that up, you'll see, like, that's kind of my daily, like, my daily routine. So I'd say a lot of my training, it's like, probably 60% is just like shadow boxing. Light bag work, working on balance. Yeah.So just nice. See, like, what are you listening to?I'll put it on. That's like the classic.Thai music.Yeah. So try not, like, even here, I'm trying not to lean my head back and try to keep more of, like, a station, like a straight up and down posture while throwing the kick. It's very hard, but it's like, as you practice it, it only makes the kicks a little bit more effective.So this is at your house?Yeah, this is just my coverage.Your bag?130.And so you justnow, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.All right, let's go to the gym.I'm sure you.Bye, everybody. Later.

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is more applicable for an actual fight, like, developing skilled?

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I think so. I mean, like, especially if you want to kick or punch or do anything at, like, a full power.

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Right.

[02:07:08]

Because I do notice that, like, like, from the tie pad work, that's where you practice your power. That's where it, like, the. On the bag and on the pads. It's more power, right. It's less like, boxing is more like focus mitts.

[02:07:22]

Mm hmm.

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You don't really do power of boxing on ondem mitts, but with, like, with Muay Thai, it's like, this is my chance to be, like, how. How effective is my left kick at 100%, you know? And I'm, like, trusting this Guy to be able to catch it for me. So I prefer it. I make. I prefer the true essence and the true martial art of Muay Thai because it's. It's when you. When you kind of understand it and when you've kind of learned it from, you know, like, just different traditions and, like, different lineages. It's like you can. You can pick up on. Things are like, okay, now. Okay, yeah, this is. This is. I can fucking ruin someone if I, like, relax RIghT Here, and I'm standing just, like, an arm's length of THiS Guy, and I just want to really blast the Kick and be on BALaNcE. I could ruin this guy. You know?

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You also were telling me that they changed the way you were kicking.

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Yeah. So everyone, like, everyone has their own way. It's like, if you go to a jujitsu school and, like, an armbar is an armbar, but people have different ways of, like, setting it up or more effective to. To get it. The biggest thing that kind of Helped me was, for one, like, a lot of people, when they kick, they lean back to kind of counterbalance that weight. And my trainer always told me, like, he always had me, like, drive, like, drive my pressure forward. I actually wish that I was fucking training with you. I was here, side. No, I was like, damn, dude. Sick to fucking. To show some stuff to Rogan. But anyway, he was showing me, like, next time. Yeah, yeah, I got a whole gym here. Yeah, I saw it. It's probably way better now than, yeah, just moved in here, but kind of like this more like forward projection. So, like, all of my weight and plus the kick moving forward versus standing stationary, lifting my and going backward, you know, like, there's like a. No tilting, the turning of the hips, like, kicking with the shin and not the foot.

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Like, so there's a lot of little details that go into, like, making these things happen, you know, and also the speed of the kick, like, a lot. A big problem that I see in MMA for sure is that, like, man, I can see kicks coming from a mile away.

[02:09:40]

Right.

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Because there's just so much just to get your leg up, you should just be able to fucking whip it and it still be as powerful and as effective.

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Yeah, you were saying something about the smoothness of the. They taught you how to relax more when you're throwing kicks.

[02:09:53]

I have, like, you have to relax, like, the kicks. The leg is the heaviest limb on the body, you know, and just, like, if you want to knock someone out, you don't want. You don't want to tense up first. You got to be relaxed. It's got to be swift. So it's kind of like, in order to lift your leg, to throw it at is kicking the bag? How much of is kicking pads? How much of is kicking the air?Okay, so I kick the bag a lot. I just have a bag in my house, and everything's usually, like, slow, just getting my body to move and comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless.Just the technique?Yeah, just the technique. And, like, the flow and, like, the.Feeling when you do it at home. Like, how much warm up do you do before you do anything like that?It kind of is my warm up. So, yeah, I do it lightly until my intensity picks up and until I'm like, okay, I'm fucking tired. Right. You know, so I'll start off. Really? Yeah, I posted, like, a video the other day. It's like, of my routine. Like, I just, like, I put on this music, like thai country.Oh, let me see it.Yeah, it's. Yeah, actually, if you pull that up, you'll see, like, that's kind of my daily, like, my daily routine. So I'd say a lot of my training, it's like, probably 60% is just like shadow boxing. Light bag work, working on balance. Yeah.So just nice. See, like, what are you listening to?I'll put it on. That's like the classic.Thai music.Yeah. So try not, like, even here, I'm trying not to lean my head back and try to keep more of, like, a station, like a straight up and down posture while throwing the kick. It's very hard, but it's like, as you practice it, it only makes the kicks a little bit more effective.So this is at your house?Yeah, this is just my coverage.Your bag?130.And so you justnow, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.All right, let's go to the gym.I'm sure you.Bye, everybody. Later.

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is kicking the bag? How much of is kicking pads? How much of is kicking the air?

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Okay, so I kick the bag a lot. I just have a bag in my house, and everything's usually, like, slow, just getting my body to move and comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless.

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Just the technique?

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Yeah, just the technique. And, like, the flow and, like, the.

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Feeling when you do it at home. Like, how much warm up do you do before you do anything like that?

[02:10:53]

It kind of is my warm up. So, yeah, I do it lightly until my intensity picks up and until I'm like, okay, I'm fucking tired. Right. You know, so I'll start off. Really? Yeah, I posted, like, a video the other day. It's like, of my routine. Like, I just, like, I put on this music, like thai country.

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Oh, let me see it.

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Yeah, it's. Yeah, actually, if you pull that up, you'll see, like, that's kind of my daily, like, my daily routine. So I'd say a lot of my training, it's like, probably 60% is just like shadow boxing. Light bag work, working on balance. Yeah.

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So just nice. See, like, what are you listening to?

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I'll put it on. That's like the classic.

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Thai music.

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Yeah. So try not, like, even here, I'm trying not to lean my head back and try to keep more of, like, a station, like a straight up and down posture while throwing the kick. It's very hard, but it's like, as you practice it, it only makes the kicks a little bit more effective.

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So this is at your house?

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Yeah, this is just my coverage.

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Your bag?

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130.

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And so you justnow, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.All right, let's go to the gym.I'm sure you.Bye, everybody. Later.

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now, just hit me up on Instagram. That's about it.

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All right, let's go to the gym.

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I'm sure you.

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Bye, everybody. Later.