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In case you missed last night's presidential debate between President Trump and Joe Biden, I will sum it up for you in seven seconds.


That was it, that was the debate, except instead of seven seconds, it was 90 minutes of that, the debate was mostly a draw and a missed opportunity. And President Trump spent most of the time debating the moderator, Chris Wallace. But there was a point President Trump did get a very important message out to people and everyone seems to have missed it. But it was a very important message and was actually worth that 90 minutes of yammering and screaming and heckling, which we will get into.


I'm Michael knows this. The Michael Muleshoe. Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment from yesterday comes from top ten guy, one who says for Democrats, stopping them from cheating equals voter suppression, lol. Yes, that's true. It is voters because the Democrats don't want you to disenfranchise all of those dead voters in Ohio, all of those family pets that have been dead for 20 years, all of those illegal aliens, foreign nationals, they don't want you to to disenfranchise those people.


That would be suppression of votes that should should not be cast in the first place. If you watch the debate last night, you probably left disappointed regardless of what side you were on. Probably if you were to sum up the debate, you'd say that Trump won it. You got he got more zingers than he seemed more lively. And yet probably Biden supporters are happier this morning than than Trump supporters because Biden is allegedly ahead in the polls. And Mrs.


Biden didn't completely collapse on the stage. And because the moderator, Chris Wallace, constantly ran interference for Joe Biden, bailed him out of a lot of tight spots and was downright rude to President Trump. President Trump got some zingers in. He did. He did hit some points that were substantive. And I think you'd be able to break out and put in some campaign commercials. The first one was framing this. The the strongest issue for Democrats health care.


That's the one they always come back to, even when health care has absolutely nothing to do with the election or the issues at hand. So what President Trump did was flip it and show how a Joe Biden presidency would destroy American health care.


What I proposed is that we expand Obamacare and we increase it. We do not wipe any one of the big debates we had with twenty three of my colleagues trying to win the nomination that I won. We're saying that Biden wanted to allow people to have private insurance until they can.


They do they will under my proposal. Not what you've said and what you said is simply party doesn't said your party wants to go socialist. My party is socialist right now. I am. And they're going to dominate you, Joe. You know that I am the Democratic Party right now.


Your party, one socialist medicine and socialist health care. And they're going to dominate you, Joe. You know that this was a very smart framing here, which is not to say Joe Biden is a radical. He's a far leftist. He's a socialist because nobody believes that Joe Biden's been in office since before Karl Marx was born. Joe Biden's been around a long time. He's positioned himself at various times as a moderate and at other times he's moved further to the left.


So that wouldn't be persuasive. But what we do know, what is undeniable is that Joe Biden is weak. He's a weak front runner. He's a weak leader of his party. He's a weak presidential nominee. And he will be swayed and dominated by other members of the party. Actually, when that that communist woman, Angela Davis, this this awful far left woman who is very influential in the Democratic Party when she endorsed Joe Biden, she said, I'm endorsing Joe Biden not because I think he's a radical, but because I think that we can bully him into doing what we want.


Same thing is true of Bob Avakian, the head of the Revolutionary Communist Party in America. He said, I'm going to endorse Joe Biden because we're going to be able to bully him. So that was the point Trump picked up on that I think is persuasive because people who still have horrible memories of Obamacare losing their doctor, premiums going up, they're going to remember. Oh, wait a second. Joe Biden is now promising more socialist health care. Joe Biden was in part responsible for for the Obamacare mess.


I don't think I want any part of that. That was a good zinger. Trump also got in one line that clearly had written it out and rehearsed it about Joe Biden's pie in the sky promises and the likelihood that they're actually going to come true.


He says he's smart because he can take advantage of the tax code and he does take advantage of the tax cut. That's why I'm going to eliminate the Trump tax cuts and we're going to eliminate those taxes and make sure that we invest in the people who, in fact, need to help people out there need help.


But why do you do it over the last twenty five years? Because you do it because you are president screwing things up. You are a senator and you're the worst president America has ever had.


Let me just say, Joe, I've done more in in forty seven months. I've done more than you've done in forty seven years. You. Oh, that's a good line.


That is some of these scripted lines are not that good. And they kind of go over his groaners, which Joe Biden had one of those later in the debate. He said, you you say it's the art of the deal. You do the art of the steal. Oh, please clap, please. There is so lame.


But that's a good line. I've done more in forty seven months than you've done in forty seven years because you have to look at the timeline of Joe Biden. You say, OK, your guy gets elected to the Senate in nineteen seventy three Senate and it's, and it's, and it's in the Senate. Vice president, vice president, vice president, vice president, president, and he's out he's running for office, but now he's going to change everything.


Now, you just needed forty six years Head Start. And now starting in this forty seventh year, now he's going to change everything. Trump made another good point. When Biden was hitting him on the tax code, he said, Joe, you wrote the tax bill. You're the one who gave me these tax advantages. So that was a good zinger. I think you can break that out. You're going to see some t shirts of I've done more in forty seven months and you've done a forty seven years.


And then I thought the best hit it was the closest thing the Trump got to a clean hit of the night. It wasn't a major hit, but it's it could be somewhat useful. Is Joe Biden was talking about our cops like him so much and Trump said name one, name one law enforcement agency that supports you.


He has no law enforcement. That's not true. Almost nothing. But look, who do you have? Name one group that supports you. Name one group that came out and supported you. Go ahead. I think we have time.


We don't have time to do it.


It's our law enforcement group that came back and said, gentlemen, I think I'm going to I'm going to take back the moderators and I want to get to another subject, which is the issue of protests in many cities that have turned violent.


Gentlemen, gentlemen, I have to interject here, because the president just landed a brutal blow on Joe Biden's show. We cannot. Mr. Biden, don't answer that. I'll don't. I'll step in. You obviously can't step in, but I'll step in. I'm Chris Wallace, the moderator.


Yeah, the motto is just trying to moderate all of the attacks, trying to temper all of the attacks that Trump landed on Joe Biden. It was there were a few moments that were pretty brutal where where I felt Joe was really threatened. And by the way, there are a lot of threats out there for all of us, which is why you need to get life insurance. That's why you need to check out select, quote, select, quote, comparison shops, highly rated companies, including Prudential Banner, Life Mutual of Omaha, others to find you the company with the best rates.


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So Trump landed some blows. OK, Joe Biden also landed some. I wouldn't say he landed blows. He he just landed insults. They were both insulting one another. I felt Trump got cleaner hits in against Joe Biden. Joe Biden, for all the talk we hear of civility and the soul of America and how Donald Trump is taking down the tone of our public discourse, Joe Biden was much nastier and more childish than Donald Trump. Much it wasn't even close.


Joe Biden said things that were shameful, downright shameful to say to the president of the United States, called him a clown, yelled at him to shut up and called him that classic, the classic insult. That means it means any type of bad person called him a racist.


You agreed with Bernie Sanders on a plan. How do you have any idea what you have to do? Socialized medicine, Mr President? I would vote now to make sure you, in fact, let people know it doesn't work. Senator, I'm not going to answer the question because I did that because the question the question is yes. Is the question left, will you? And who is on your list, Joe? This gentleman, I think this is the court.


We are not going to give a little. We have ended this segment. We're going to move on to the second segment. It was really a productive segment, wouldn't it?


Keep yapping. The people understand. You say. Forty seven years, you've done nothing. They understood. All right. They were teaching people that our country is a horrible place, it's a racist place, and they were teaching people to hate our country. And I'm not going to allow that to happen. Vice President Biden, nobody's doing that.


He's just he's a racist. You just don't. Here's the deal. I know a lot more about it. Let him finish.


So unpresidential. I'm not going to defend Trump's badgering the whole night. I actually I do have a point on Trump's badgering generally, I felt it was ineffective because he did it too much, but generally we will get to that. Who was more or less presidential here? Trump was much more presidential, and I get it that the badgering is sort of tedious. I get it. It is unacceptable, childish, stupid, disrespectful, rude, wrong to tell the president of the United States to shut up.


I find the phrase shut up to be one of the rudest phrases you can utter. You have to do it very selectively. One time when when Ronald Reagan was being shouted down by a whole horde of these awful anti-American hippies, he he famously told me, oh, shut up. He's like sort of half joking. And that was an effective use of that term. When you use that term just in normal conversation, it's incredibly rude. You could you could instead use a much more vile, vulgar sort of word and it would be less rude than that.


Said, call him a clown, the United States a clown, and then to say he's a racist.


I just don't that phrase, maybe at some point it had some meaning. It certainly doesn't anymore. George Orwell in politics, in the English language, said that the term fascist now has no meaning. It just means some something that is not desirable, something that I don't like. Well, the same is true of racist. It doesn't matter. There's no even if somebody had racial bigotry, racial prejudices, the term doesn't matter the term. Even if you walked up to David Duke, you walked up to the head of the Ku Klux Klan.


You said you're a racist. The phrase itself has been deprived of meaning because of people like Joe Biden, because he says you're I can't. Well, I lost my train of thought and I can't. Gosh, Trump's off putting me with the badge that you're a racist, you're a racist was pathetic.


It's totally pathetic.


Then at certain moments, Joe Biden actually, beyond the petty insults, actually seem to undermine his own arguments. So when they were sniping at each other over the lockdown's, Joe Biden seemed to come out against the lockdown's.


I'll tell you, Joe, you could never have done the job that we did. You don't have it in your blood. You could have never done that yet. I know how to do the job. I know how to get the job.


But you didn't do very well in swine flu, H1N1. You were a disaster. Your own fourteen thousand thirty thousand people died, not two hundred thousand.


There was no economic recession, you know, have made a point. I didn't answer. And there was no one.


There's no we didn't shut down the economy. This is his economy.


And he shut down what first of all, one I mean, this is why the attack on H1N1. I see why Trump launched it, but because the two diseases are so incomparable. And then he tried to make that point later. Right. He said it was much less lethal, but because there he left himself open to that that counterattack. But I didn't expect Joe's counterattack to say, well, we didn't shut down the economy for H1N1.


Joe, you're if you guys who are trying to shut down the economy now, Trump wants to open the economy.


In just five seconds ago, you were demagoguing the issue and saying Trump's killing people because he won't shut down the economy. So what is it? Do the Democrats want to shut down the economy or do they want to open up the economy? Right now, it's only the Democratic governors practically who are trying to keep it shut down. Right. Gavin Newsom, the mayor, Eric Garcetti in Los Angeles, Andrew Cuomo, governor in New York.


Bill de Blasio, mayor in New York. It's all the Democrats who want to shut it down. But, Joe, this is the trouble with being a cynical, empty suit politician. He doesn't have any beliefs, it's not just that he's lying, it's that he has no regard for the truth. So he says, OK, now it's now it's good to hit him for the lockdown's. And it doesn't even occur to him like, wait a sec.


But we were the ones pushing the lockdown's on him or arguing. I just undercut our argument. That doesn't matter. And I think for a lot of his partisans, it probably won't matter much either. And then the most ridiculous thing Biden said all night, beyond the petty insults which you kind of expect he was, he was asked to condemn Antifa and he held the party line and said, Antifa doesn't exist.


Somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the left because this is not a right wing problem is this is where I direct this is a left wing white supremacist and teef is an idea, not an organized. You got it. Not that's what it is tonight. FBI, his FBI director said, well, you know, now that we're done, sir, and we're done, we're done.


Mr. Trump, you can't please don't respond to that because that statement that Joe made was so obviously indefensible. Please, please don't respond. We've got to move on. New segment. We've got the Sacred Sacred new segment. Antipas, an idea, not an organization. Antifa may be an idea, but it's an idea that has gotten into people's heads. And those people wear uniforms and they wave a flag and they march and organize together. That is an organization you can say this, that you could say, look, look, fascism is an idea.


It's not an organization, just true. But in Mussolini's Italy, that idea was embodied by people who wore black shirts and committed violence in the streets. Naziism is an idea. It's not an organization. Sure, it is an idea. It was embodied by people who work brown shirts and worked for Adolf Hitler in Germany. Right. Well, communism is an idea. It's not an organization, sure. But it manifests in organizations. And Antifa has a real organization right now.


Coincidentally, members of Antifa are alternately anarchists and communists and all sorts of miscreants and ne'er do wells and very bad people. We know that they exist. I can see the videos of them waving their flag. That is the definition of an organization, but they can't cop to it. And so Trump's getting a lot of flack right now because they pulled out the typical crowd. They say Trump. Do you condemn white supremacists? Sure, yeah. OK, yes, I defend white supremacist.


I pardon me. I condemn white supremacists. Who do you want me to condemn? Who do you want me to condemn? And they say the bad boys. OK, yeah. Bad boys go away. OK, yeah. Do we do it. But Joe, you're defending antifa and Joe says there's no such thing as anti. Now you've heard in some of these clips of Chris Wallace. Chris Wallace is the key. Just keeps jumping in and in and in.


OK, and the way it became a one versus two debate, which made the whole thing much more frustrating to watch. OK, but I think Trump had to know that going in, he had to realize that there they're going to be threats that were not totally fair, that he coming out of the shadows, coming out of the corner is Chris Wallace. And he might have been able to predict those attacks a little bit better if he'd had a ring ring.


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One of these debates will be moderated by someone who even has an association, really with conservatives. And it was this unfair, this unfair. So what are the other ones going to be like? What when you've got actual not just regular old left wingers, but left wingers at totally one hundred percent left wing networks, not just sort of middle of the road networks, what's that two on one going to look like? Trump called him out at one point, Trump said, oh, Chris, I didn't realize I wasn't billed to be debating you tonight, but that's fine.


No big deal.


I know your mandate was the most unpopular aspect of Obamacare I got rid of. I like to we will press on the moderator of this debate. And I would like you to let me ask my question and then you can answer.


Go ahead. Bring you in. The course of these four years have never come up with a comprehensive plan to replace Obamacare.


And just this last Thursday, you signed a largely symbolic executive order to protect people with preexisting conditions five days before this debate. So my question, sir, is what is the Trump health care plan?


Well, first of all, I guess I'm debating you, not him. But that's OK. I'm not surprised. Let me just tell you something that there's nothing symbolic. I'm cutting drug prices. I'm going with favored nations, which no president has the courage to do because you're going against big pharma. Drug prices will be coming down 80 or 90 percent. You could have done it during your forty seven year period in government, but you didn't do it.


And Wallace, he goes on that line. Whenever you call out the moderator, the moderator does have to take a little bit of a step back, but not for very long. And it was pretty pathetic. Even Chris Wallace, Fox News colleagues, some of them privately, but but many of them even publicly said this was not a great performance. And you can say they were posting it all on Twitter last night. It was too much. That is always at risk, I remember I did a debate with with a Fox News Democrat and Politiken, this was, I guess, a year ago and almost exactly a year ago over in Nashville.


And the moderator was Clay Aiken. And that Fox News Democrat was Chris Huhne. That both guy, Chris Hunt called me Skinny Boy. And so I prepared the debate against Chris Huhne. But the very last minute I realized. Wait a second. There's another guy here who's the technically the moderator, but I know that Clay Aiken ran for office as a Democrat. I know that Clay Aiken probably has political views and I know how these debates tend to go against conservatives.


So I said last minute, I'm just going to do a little little research done on Clay Aiken just to make sure I go. So I go into the debate. Christiane and I basically did not debate that was Christiane was just like kind of a wallflower, though. I mean, we got a few barbs in or whatever the actual debate was against the moderator, Clay Aiken. And that's what happened last night. Joe Biden did not come with his best or maybe did come with his best, but his best ain't very much these days.


And frankly, it wasn't even that much during the height of his career in the 80s and 90s, Trump had to debate Chris Wallace. So it does raise questions about the ground rules for the debate and for the strategy. The first thing I'll say about about how this came out, which I think was a draw, I don't think it moved the needle one little bit one way or the other. Incumbents lose the first debate. That happens all the time, you remember it with Barack Obama, he got crushed in the first debate by Mitt Romney in 2012 and Mitt Romney.


Right. It's not exactly the fiercest debater out there. He ran roughshod over Barack Obama. Ronald Reagan very famously got crushed in the first debate to Walter Mondale in 1980. For Ronald Reagan, this is there was plenty of reporting on this. According to to Lou Cannon, who's written about this, said as soon as Reagan left the stage, he confessed, confessed to his adviser, Stu Spencer, that he had flopped. You had Mondale walking off of the stage saying to an aide, this guy is gone, meaning he mentally wasn't all there kind of thing we would say about Joe Biden.


Two days after the debate, the RNC chairman, Paul Laxalt, held a press conference admitting that Reagan had done a bad job and said no, but it wasn't because his brain has turned to mush. It's because the briefing process didn't work very well. The preparation process didn't work any well, and he just got clobbered. And then he came back and crushed Mondale in the later debate. Same thing with Obama. Obama came back with the help of the moderator, Candy Crowley, and crushed Romney in the remainder of the debates.


So I'm not too worried if you have a little bit of an historical view. You say this isn't going to change anything. The trouble with last night's debate is it was exhausting. Those that was watching it there with Ben Jeremey and Drew, we just said like, oh, gosh, guys, I got I don't have enough hours in my life to sit through this.


It's not that there's nothing productive about this. It's so exhausting. And that's true. That's true. And we had a little bit of a disagreement because we all thought that Trump interrupted too much. But I think Ben was harsher on it than I was. And Ben kept bringing up this point. This is this is exhausting and this isn't good and it's going to turn away voters. But the reason I disagree with that a little bit is. Trump has to be exhausting.


He has to be if he wants to do anything that matters as a conservative now, you don't need to be exhausting if you want to just go along and get along with the liberal establishment, because then you'll be treated relatively well. They'll still probably beat you, but maybe they'll let you get in as long as you play the game, as long as you, as a conservative, play your role as the court jester in the kingdom of liberalism, they'll more or less let you get along.


But if you actually threaten things in the way that Trump has done, if you threaten their global trade regime, if you threaten their open borders regime, if you threaten the loss of national sovereignty to international and transnational organizations, as Trump has done, unlike any of his predecessors, frankly, even including Ronald Reagan, if you do that, they are all going to come at you all of the time. Hollywood, the mainstream media, obviously the Democratic politicians, the bureaucracy that tried to have a coup d'etat and overthrow the twenty sixteen election and kick him out of office.


Higher education, lower education. The technology companies now which are threatening to censor conservatives on election night. All of these things are coming to and they're already censoring conservatives. They're already censoring even the president of the United States saying that he's posting misinformation when certainly that is not the case. All of these things are going to come after you. If you want to break through that at all, you have to badger. It's the same disagreement about the tweets.


You hear some conservatives say, I hate the tweets. He's got to stop tweeting. Then you hear other ones like me who say, I love the tweets. I get that the tweets can be annoying and sometimes they can they can be a little bit destructive. But the tweets are essential. You've got to keep badgering because it's the only way that you can break through that liberal establishment. That's Ronald Reagan famously said there's only one guaranteed way that you can have peace and you can have it in the next minute.


Surrender? Yeah. If you surrender to the left, then you can. It'll all be genial and nice. So Jojo's a return to normalcy. I don't like the normalcy, the normalcy was very bad, the normalcy leading our country off of a cliff, the normalcy that we're talking about has led to a place where we've probably haven't been this racially divided in 50 years. We've never been this sexually divided because of the advent of these new identity groups that have cropped up.


We've never hated our country more. It's now controversial to listen to the national anthem and stand up and support your country. It's now controversial to recite the Pledge of Allegiance or salute the flag. We've never hated our history more tearing down statues of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson. We've never been stupider. And this is the biggest problem with this debate is how stupid it was. It was so dumb. And that's not just a perennial complaint. And every generation feels that that, oh, gosh, things used to be better.


They actually were better when it comes to the American mind in the American public discourse. OK, when you compare this debate.


Right, which I think is a consequential one, I think twenty twenty is going to be extremely consequential because you've got so radically different visions for the country. Compare that to the Lincoln Douglas debates, which also were consequential. They also were about an essential fundamental question in the country, slavery. The question was so essential that you had a bloody civil war. We're almost seven hundred thousand Americans died over it. The Lincoln Douglas debates were substantive. The rhetoric from both sides, more so from Lincoln, but from both sides.


The rhetoric, the oratory was serious. It was contemplative. It reflected a deep mind, two deep minds, actually, with a deep understanding of the issues. And last night was just, yeah, come on, man, you're a racist, man. You're shut up, clown. You man. It was just pathetic. Mostly Joe Biden, much less so Trump. Trump got his trump lines and he's a reality TV star. Sure. But Joe Biden was the much more pathetic one.


Pitiful I won't even say pathetic. He didn't he didn't evoke much, much compassionate feeling in me. For him, it was it was sad. Makes people sad for the country. And if you if you want to have that return to normalcy and just give it to Joe Biden, fine. You're going to get more of that more of that degradation. Sometimes the only way out is through Dante and the famously in his comedy where he is trying to get up to heaven and behold the beatific vision he's got to go all the way down through hell.


Sometimes the only way out is through are lots and lots of lies, not just in the debate, but the typical lies coming from the mainstream media. It's going to involve a lot more pestering. All of these threats and by the way, we've got threats looking at the twenty 20 election in November, a lot of it is going to be digital, it's going to be virtual, and you have got to protect your data. The way to do that is with LifeLock.


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There was one clear one last night that just shows you how rigged this game is, which we'll get to in one second. But if you liked our debate coverage last night, you should join the live wire. Now, as an insider, all access memory, get 20 percent off with code debate so you can watch all of our upcoming debate coverage live at daily Wired.com on Apple TV or on the Roku app. You get a ton of stuff and you get to leftest year temblors.


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You have over twenty five people gone on the record. Even people who don't like Trump on the record saying, now I was there. He never said that. That's complete B.S. This was a story published by The Atlantic. Doesn't matter because they were clearly connected to the Joe Biden campaign against Joe Biden, immediately makes ads using that story within hours of the story coming out. So Joe Biden launches that attack on Trump. Then Trump points out, he says, wait, Joe, there's video of you calling the troops stupid bastards.


Joe Biden flat out denies it, he made a statement about the military. He said, I said something about the military. He and his friends made it up and then they went with it. I never said that in the segment he called the vice president. At best, ideas are stupid values, not words. I would never I would not play it.


I love Chris Wallace. Stop it. Stop it, Trump. You're saying things that are true and they're not nice about. Just stop, please. Cut the feed.


Cut his mike is so ridiculous. But you heard the important exchange. Your guest, Joe Biden, called the troops stupid bastards. Joe Biden said, I did not say that. Rollerskate one, I marry you.


And two, I appointed John through to the academy.


And I just want you to know that Kallaugher, that we have the tape. He is talking to a whole audience of military service. Clap for that, you stupid bastard. You call them stupid bastards. I did not. How dare you? So he lies and then Chris Wallace, stop, please. No, gosh, people are going to Google it if you mention it a couple more times. And that's it. That's it. The only way you can break through is if you if you hammer these things and you make it such an issue that even if you get the negative attention for yourself, people take a look at Google themselves.


Those are the lies we're up against. I give you an example of another lie that we're up against. So you remember the Atlantic hit piece that said that Trump called the military suckers and losers? No evidence of that. Here's another one also from the Atlantic. Trump secretly mocks his Christian supporters. Former aides say that in private, the president has spoken with cynicism and contempt about believers. You don't even really need to read this. It's OK. They're quoting Michael Cohen, the criminal, degenerate traitor lawyer to Donald Trump, coward hack who's now in prison.


Right. Or maybe they let him out because he was afraid of getting the wool flu or something.


OK, blah, blah. I don't even need to really read this.


Do you think that Donald Trump hates Christians? Ask yourself that, do you think Donald Trump hates Christians, Joe Biden and the Biden Obama administration, that administration sued nuns, took it all the way up through the courts. Because they wanted the nuns to pay for abortion drugs. Sued none's Donald Trump. Doesn't do that, Donald Trump supports religious liberty, supports churches when the left went over and burned down one of the most famous churches in the country, St.


Johns, over in Washington, D.C., right by the White House. Donald Trump walked over there, dispersed the crowd of rioters and held up the Bible as a sign of support. And you know what happened? Democrats attacked Trump for doing that. Which side do you think supports Christianity? Which side do you think holds Christianity in contempt? How many churches have been burned down, graffitied up, attacked, smashed by the left in the in the last two months?


Countless, which do you think this story was, I mean, what is the meat of this story that Trump has made some jokes? Maybe? I don't know. I guess I have no doubt that Trump has made jokes about religious people. I've made plenty of jokes about religious people. Many of them on this show is that that's the issue. No question is who supports Christianity, Trump or Joe Biden? Joe Biden, who was denied communion because he is in grave scandal and mortal sin, obviously.


Obviously, Trump is the supporter of people of faith, religious liberty, Christianity in particular.


This gets to that that issue of the cynicism, Joe Biden undermining his own attacks, because we've been told the last few weeks Joe Biden's a devout Catholic. Sure. He doesn't believe the stuff the Catholic Church believes. And sure, he was denied communion, rightly so, by a priest. But he's devout and that's so wonderful. But also, Amy Barrett's a complete nut job because she actually believes in Catholicism. What I thought it was good to believe in, because you said it was a devout Catholic and that's a good but then someone actually.


And Dianne Feinstein is worried that the dogma lives loudly within her and Dick Durbin doesn't know what it means to have orthodoxy in your religion. They're trying to have it both ways, which is what makes an article like that complete trash. But that's what you're up against. So Trump's got his work cut out for him. The one the one substantive point I want to. Tell Republicans and President Trump in particular that I think it's always a misstep, Trump made it last night.


Is Trump went after Joe Biden on the 1994 crime bill. He went after Joe Biden for being too tough on crime, which is a completely misguided attack. Republicans are launching this, I think is a matter of racial pandering. And I actually find it racially very uncomfortable because it conflates black people with criminals like is a complete overlap. You're saying no, look, I'm really good for black people. Look, I'm letting them all out of prison now.


No, I don't think innocent black people want to identify themselves with a bunch of criminals who have done heinous things. The 1994 crime bill is the only good thing Joe Biden has ever done in his political career. It makes me more likely to vote for him. If you mention the 94 crime bill, the first step act, the jail spring act that that Trump passed, it actually makes me less likely to vote for Trump.


I'm obviously going to support Trump regardless, but it's my least favorite thing probably that he's done in his administration. It's it's the wrong line of attack. It's not going to work. It's it's undercutting their other arguments on law and order. Give me an example, give you an example of how the left is just, by its own nature, very weak on crime. There was a guy, a murderer, who just got executed. He finally got his his punishment, his just punishment, which is capital punishment.


The US plans to execute a man for a crime he committed at 19. Scientists say the research on brain development makes that wrong.


So first of all. The scientists say by the left's own premises. Cannot have a conclusion in a moral argument, because what the left has said is that there is science, right, physical science, and that you can't derive an Orte from an is you can't derive moral conclusions from the physical world. That's that's the basis of this whole physical science that we're talking about. But what what are they trying to do? They're trying to drive a moral conclusion from the physical world.


Right. But they're saying those things are supposed to be totally separate. Scientists and philosophers supposed to be totally separate, but they don't separate them when it works for them. So they'll say, yes, science says you've got to you've got to lock yourself in your home for the next 10 years, because science science says that nothing, nothing about science as they understand it would suggest that gets more complicated because one actually probably can derive an order from it from is when we actually can derive moral conclusions from the physical world.


But that that argument is for another day. And that's certainly not what the what the left is trying to do. They're actually trying to invert that traditional understanding of things. The man committed a crime at 19 and now he's got to pay for first of all, he should have been executed at 19. Right. It should he shouldn't have been languishing on death row for the past twenty one years. They should have just executed him for his crime. But then they're trying to racially demagogue it because apparently, apparently this guy is black.


He doesn't look black to me, but I guess he's black. So a number of the the articles about this in the tweets about this have said the US is going to execute a black man. And the premise of BLM is that any black man who is in prison is there unjustly because we have a new kind of slavery. And I don't know, they were all set up or something. Let me tell you, this guy's crime, Christopher Valvo, Christopher Velva, bummed a ride from two youth ministers, a cop, a young couple, a man and his wife.


He robbed them. He kidnapped them and he stuffed them in the trunk. He then drove around for hours and tried to pawn the wife's wedding ring, apparently unsuccessfully. He then opened up the trunk. And while they were pleading for their lives, the wife was reading him the Bible. To convert him, he shot them both in the head, but the wife didn't die right away, so he set their bodies on fire and then they died. This is, by the way, this man would end up in the in Dante's sort of understanding of cosmic justice.


This guy would end up in the very pit, the very lowest level of hell. He committed the worst sin, which is fraud and betraying specifically betraying your benefactors. He asked these guys for a ride out of the kindness of their heart. They gave it to him. He kidnapped them, robbed them, tied them up and burned this woman alive. That guy. Should be killed by the state. It is totally just capital punishment, very just thing, it perverts our system when there is no type of justice at that degree.


When the president comes out, I understand there's a very big difference between, say, a drug crime and a crime such as Christopher Velva committed, though I will point out with some of these drug trafficking rings, there is a lot of blood involved. There's a lot of death involved in those two.


But I get it, they're different when Republicans come out and attack Democrats for being too tough on crime. You know, they've lost the thread because we do not have a problem in this country being too tough on crime. We are way, way, way too weak on crime. Even conservatives, many conservatives oppose capital punishment. Many conservatives even oppose tough punishment. Because it's not rehabilitative, maybe it's not it's not deterrent, they say now it often is determined.


The reason that these tough punishments are not deterrent is because they go on so long that they don't they don't actually seem like a punishment. If this guy had been killed at 20, as he damn well should have been. I think you'd see a much greater deterrent effect of capital punishment. They're not rehabilitative. I bet capital punishment has at least a chance of being rehabilitated on this man's soul. But there is a primary purpose of our justice system, which is justice.


Justice. It's not just a therapy session, folks. It's justice. Punitive. Punitive punishment, I know that that sounds a little bit redundant, retributive. Justice. That's what we're talking about, getting retribution because justice demands it. There's a role for mercy to that's the pardon power. But there is a there's a place for justice as well. We've completely lost that. You know what's so funny to we're also being we're being very, very cruel to the prisoners in the process.


Give you an example. In California, Governor Gavin Newsom is now decided that he's going to send transgender inmates, that is, men who pretend to be women to be housed with the women. Prisoners with the women, what could go wrong, what could go wrong, get a bunch of hardened criminals, people who are by definition criminals who do bad things to people. Put a bunch of these bad dudes in with the women. What could possibly go wrong?


This is horrifically cruel to the female inmates. And by the way, I'm calling for tough justice on criminals, but I'm not calling for cruelty. I think it's very wrong and I think it's extraordinarily wrong to be cruel. I totally oppose cruel and unusual punishment. This is cruel and unusual punishment, putting a bunch of men in with the women, what could possibly go wrong? But it's because we've lost this thread of calling out objective moral reality actually gets to the science question.


You see, there was there was a time when we could understand that the physical world has a purpose. My body has a purpose that this this life that we have has an end, OK? This cup has a purpose. The cup is to give me coffee. That there are other things the cup could be used for. There are some things that the Cup should not be used for. The Cup is not a telephone. I can't use the cup to be a telephone.


It is it is not going to fulfill its telos. It's not going to fulfill its purpose by doing that.


But the cup is here for giving me that delicious coffee.


Then you had the kind of. Quote unquote, scientific revolution, where we say, no, no, no, you can't derive any of these kind of philosophical or metaphysical conclusions from physical objects, but now we've reverted back to the old thing.


It's just on the left, writes the left, saying, yeah, the scientists, the lab coat guys who have no understanding of ethics or philosophy. Those guys are now going to tell us how to run our moral lives based on nothing, based on their their wild whims.


What we have to do is return to a world in which we have a clear understanding of the moral order and where and where we have the courage to admit it. So some things are better than other things. There is such a thing as justice, there is such a thing as good. There is such a thing as courage. There is such a thing as wrong. Men should not be with the women inmates. That's wrong. Men who pretend to be women, we should have compassion for sure, but we shouldn't indulge that fantasy because it's not true.


It's wrong. It is actually wrong to do that. Wrong to pretend to do that and are wrong to indulge that delusion. There's a kindergarten teacher in France, kindergarten teacher, who just got fired from teaching kindergarten. He's he's still teaching first graders and second graders and third graders. He just got fired from kindergarten. Why? Sylvan Helen is his name. He's thirty five. He's the most tattooed man in France. His body, face and tongue are covered in tattoos.


And he just had the whites of his eyeballs surgically dyed black to look like a demon. He looks like a demon and he was scaring the kindergarteners. So finally he was moved not out of the not out of the school, not away from children, not into a psychiatric hospital where he belongs. He was moved to first grade and hopefully those kids and their parents won't complain and have nightmares. There was a time in this civilization where you could look at that and say, you know, it's it is wrong to die your whole skin and die your eyeballs black and try to look like a demon.


That's wrong. That's evidence that something's gone wrong in your head.


And we're going to give you treatment for that. We're going to explain to you why that's wrong. But now we're so afraid to make any moral, moral claim and even conservatives, quote unquote, they're really libertarians who say, well, look, if we say it's wrong to die your eyeballs black and cover your whole body and tattoos to look like a demon, then they're going to tell us it's wrong to go to church. And it's like, who can really know which one's wrong know?


So we just got to throw our hands up and anything goes. No, I'll tell you what. How about we just say the good things or the good things and the bad things or the bad things. We've done that throughout the entirety of our civilization except for the past, I don't know, five minutes in in earnest since the 1960s. How about we just do that? That is possible, we have the ability to do that, we just might not have the courage that all of that is to say that is a system that conservatives are up against right now, OK, that kind of insanity, that kind of unreason.


And so it is no surprise that when we have our national debates. It's just a bunch of screaming all night long, it's just a bunch of petty insults. There's no reason because we've lost confidence even in the ability to reason about our politics, to reason about how we ought to all live together. We've lost a conception of what the good even is, what we all should be doing. And so we're all just stuck in cacophony and a bunch of babble.


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