We were just talking about chicken, Greg. How many chickens do you think are killed every year?

Not the money chicken, though, but the actual chicken.

Chicken chickens.

How many chickens are killed every year?

Yeah. How many do you think?

Shit.

I couldn't even put a number. 200 million.

Eighty billion.

Eighty billion. I don't even know how they make that many chickens.

How many chickens do you think you've eaten in your lifespan?

Have you had it up to the whole chicken?

I don't know. If 14 wings were one chicken.

Okay. Shit. Thousands.

Yeah, I agree. Me, too. Probably double the Black culture.

I've had my fair share of wings.

I went to school in Miami, so I hired.

Okay. Yeah, they got They got chickens flying there.

Our after-practice snack on the bus ride back was Popeye's.

Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying, Ron. That's all I'm saying.

Dude, that's a good question.

I have a lot of chicken in my day.

How do they make them, though? Are they reproducing? Are chickens having sex? I guess they're laying eggs. What's going on over here?

You're diving really deep into a subject that I don't know shit about.

Yeah, we were just killing time talking about it, bro.

We were just wondering, bro. We were just curious over here. Dude, welcome to the show, Greg Olson. I guess I should give you a proper intro.

Give him a proper intro. Do him right.

All right, let me do you right. All right. From the U to the pros to broadcasting's final boss, he did more with the cane in Miami than Freeway Ricky Ross. The only all pro in the booth with an Emmy to win, it could be a full house, and we still couldn't find Olson's twin. Thinking you could cover him is downright in Saltan, Seahaw, Panther, Bear, Beast, Legend. Greg Olson, welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. Oh, my God.

Love that one, bro. That was fire. God, that was fire.

That might be one of the best intros I've ever had.

Stop, bro. Don't even say that. But people might be wondering. They're like, Oh, Pat, Pat, Pa with Rome, Basketball Podcast, Greg Olson, football player. How does this make It makes sense. But to me, I think it makes sense in a billion different ways. One of them, I mean, the hardware is right behind you. This guy is a guy who's made his transition from being a stud, first-round pick, to a broadcaster and a part of the media, which I think 100 % resonates over here with this guy, Pat Bev. This is a guy who is intertwined with the Barstool community in a lot of ways. I mean, you and I played Trivia Against One Another in Las Vegas, and we don't have to talk about how it went one way or the other. But you've been so deep in the Barstool world for so long. And I think that there's a ton of ways where this crossover makes sense. So I think we really want to soak up some games, specifically about the broadcasting world, how you found yourself, where you are right now. And I think we can start off with congratulations on the Emmy, bro.

That's a fucking sick point. Congrats, bro.

Congrats. That's fire.

I appreciate it. And as Pat knows, I think so many guys just assume you have a good career. When you're done playing, what's the next best thing? You either coach or you get into media. And I think everyone just assumes that transition is easy and seamless. And one day you just get done playing and every network and every media outlet in the world calls you up and says, Hey, come to a pod, come to a show, come be on our desk, call games, whatever. And the reality is, as you know firsthand, Pat, it's a lot of work. It's hard to transition into that world. It's hard to find your voice. It's hard to find the right opportunities. There are so many different outlets that guys can do. You can host your own show, you can sit behind a desk, you can commentate games. And for me, it was commentating the games that I found pretty quickly was my path. I was fortunate when I was playing my last couple of years in '17 and in 19 in my bye weeks, when everyone else was going on vacation and hanging, I was going to call games as a current player on my bye week.

Fox was fortunate. I was fortunate they gave me those opportunities. So it was something I was laying the foundation on before my last season in 2020, where I knew once my playing days were over, I had laid enough of a foundation to have opportunities with Fox to do that right out of the game and go right into the booth. And after trying a lot of different outlets and different things that a lot of people never even saw on TV because they weren't real big shows, calling games became something I thought I could pursue. That's really where I've put the bulk of my interest, obviously, since I retired.

So what made you good at that?

I got to ask this question before you all. So it was a statement made about I think Austin Rivers made the statement about NFL players.

What was it?

Playing basketball, the basketball players playing football. I've played football for 37 seconds. I was a ride receiver, got through pass. Mind you, I'm a freshman. I catch ball middle, make move cracked, like crack, like painful hit. I get up, I take helmet off, I take shoulder pads off, I look at mom, mom come down from the stands, I don't like this sport anymore. So from that standpoint, and I'd like to think I'm probably one of the most physical motherfuckers in the NBA. So Ron, I didn't want to touch a football ever again. I wasn't a fan of it. I didn't like it. I didn't like how I felt. I didn't like how the helmet was like, mushed against my head when I fail? I didn't like none of that shit. So I stopped playing football and I graduated to basketball, and that was my basketball. That was my football career.

I think it worked out pretty well for you.

So to Austin Rivers' comments, It's a give and take both ways, obviously. You take some of the best athletes in the world, you can do it. But I'm talking about the batch that's underneath the best athletes, just the regular Joe Blow role players. And the regular Joe Blow role players in the NFL in the comparison? You think they can compete and vice versa?

Yeah. So obviously, that was a big storm. And I know football guys all came to the rescue of football and basketball guys. Everyone goes to their sides of the of the ring and wants to just battle for their sport. The reality is, whether people want to accept it or not with football, and I know we all want to sit here and say, Oh, it's the hardest sport. The reality is, outside of maybe quarterback, you You can be later to football than you can to basketball, to baseball, to any of the more skilled dominant sports. I can find a lot of really good NFL athletes. I mean, Calvin Johnson, Justin Jefferson, And I mean, and again, maybe these guys are hoopers in their past. So I'm just coming up with like 6, 5 long, really athletic football players that if you put them on a basketball court, they would look like they belong, right? So that's my thought. The problem is if you don't have a lifetime of skill development, dribbling, shooting, passing. The only way to get good at those skills is by doing them. It's no different than a guy, you're the best athlete in the gym, and you're going to go off for the baseball team, but you don't have 15 years of swing in the bat, high hand, pitching, throwing, mechanics, fielding.

You can only athlete your way through so much of those very dominant sports. So again, quarterback being the exception, you're not going to just show up one day and be the quarterback. But those really high-level basketball guys, and again, LeBron is an easy one, right? Just because everyone knows he had his football background. But there is no doubt in my mind, those high-level athletes in the NBA, I could teach them to be a free safety. I could teach them to be a corner. Now, the physicality, to your point, if they just can't handle any of the physicality, then it's a different story. But from a skill set, from the running, jumping, the skill requirement environments of football are just different than they are. There's the toughness component. There's the physicality, the helmet, everything you just said. All of that is real. But I could come out there and compete my ass off and practice every day. But I don't have 20 years of ball handling. I don't have 20 years of shooting. You just can't simulate that. So I think football is the sport you can be the latest to. The better athlete you are, the easier that transition is.

And yeah, I think there's no question in my mind, I I could probably find, I don't know if 30 was the right... I think that's what Austin said. I don't know if 30 is real, but I could find 10. I could find 10 basketball players that could go make an NFL roster. I think that's totally realistic.

I think that you even look at across different sports, like Hogan, or he was a La Crosse player, like Mylata was a rugby player. This guy didn't find football until he was in his 20s. And then now Mylata is like, he's an all-pro player because he had the athletic skills to play tackle.

Yeah, and you just don't hear... And maybe there are the stories you guys would know better than me, but you just don't hear the story of the 6'8 senior in high school, freshman in college, who just one day goes, You know what? I want to learn basketball. And all of a sudden, he's an NBA All-Star. You don't have the time to build up that lost time of not not playing and developing those skills. So football-wise, if you are an elite athlete, run, jump, big, long, tall, Russell Westbrook and LeBron, all these crazy athletes, Anthony Edwards, he's probably a great example of a guy playing now. If you don't think he could be an NFL free safety tomorrow, you're lying to yourself. I mean, the guy is an athlete. He's 6'4. And that's the other point that people don't understand about basketball is every great athlete you see playing defensive back, wide receiver, for the most part, they're like 6'2. A 6'2 defensive back is a good size DB. A A 6-2 basketball player, you're guard and the point guard. You're the one. The threes and the fours are 6-8. Outside of a couple of defensive line in Navy or an offensive tackle, there's nobody in the NFL that's 6-8 outside of a tackle or something.

So I don't think people understand the physicality and the athleticism of these basketball guys. And that's the precursor for playing football outside of Corkback.

Shout out to T-E-U.

Shout out to T-E-U. Shout out to T-E-U.

Shout out to T-E-U.

Shout out to T-E-U. Shout out to tight-end U. Every year, it's massive. I feel like you guys are doing something different with tight-end U in that all All the best players at the position are coming to Nashville every year and blowing it up. Everybody is doing... It's you, Kittle, and Kelsey?

Yeah.

I feel like that's exclusively studs right there. That's literally your Super Bowl matchup and an Emmy winner running things. That's sick. Honestly, basketball should have something like that where it's like all the point guards are in camp together and they're exchanging knowledge. Is that the basis of it that you can pick up game from one another? This is the technique we're using. This is how I'm running this route, or this is my blocking stance technique type of thing?

Yeah. So it's our fourth year doing TEO. We do it down in Nashville. George and Travis and myself, we started this back in 2021. And the idea was just to get a couple of tight ends. A bunch of them live down there. George spends his offseason in Nashville, and a bunch of the guys live down there. And And I had just retired. And he's like, Hey, why don't you come down? We can work with some young guys and just do a little mini couple of days of tight end only. And then it grew to 20 guys. Then it was 30 guys. Man, we're on to something here. Everybody, as the more people hear about this, the guys across the league really want to be a part of it. So we'll have 80 to 90 guys when it's all said and done. Last year, we had 85, tight ends only, NFL guys only. We do film classroom stuff. We do field work. We have some cool outside Outside the classroom, extracurricular fun. We'll go out to the bars. Beers.

You're drinking beers is what you're talking about. You guys are getting drunk.

And you guys are going to love, obviously, not a shameful plug. We're obviously proud of it with Charmin. Obviously, tight ends, Charmin, Ton of the Paper. So obviously, they're the no-brainer sponsor of all this. So they're back. They're the ones who allow us to even do all this. We fly the guys in, we put them up, we pay for it all. So we couldn't do it without all of our sponsors. And obviously, there's a lot of bud light strength. So it's It's a pretty fun deal. And really, you're talking 85 guys, from the Travis Kelsies and the George Kittles of the world, all the way down to guys that are undrafted, rookie free agents that are just hoping to have a career. So everybody in between There's something for everybody. And it's just been a blast all these years to do it. And we're excited for June to come around and do year four.

Hey, so Rome, you watch a lot of football?

I'm obsessed.

Okay, cool. So we can agree on this. The tight-end position is a lost art until you get to the playoffs. Regular season, it's the flash, it's the running, it's the quarterback, it's the wide receiver, it's the sick catches. But when you get in the trenches and you get in the playoffs games, they throwing it to the biggest target every time. Easy. Is that fair to say, Mr. Olson?

Yeah, I think it's real. I mean, you look at the last couple of years, not only the Super Bowl winners, but the team teams that lost in the Super Bowl. Almost every single team that has been in the Super Bowl in the last couple of years has had a significant, predominant NFL tight-end. I mean, just this last year, obviously, it worked out great with George and Travis. They've already met one. This is the second time they've met in a Super Bowl. So it's a position that I think is just continuing to get better. And it goes back to our basketball conversations. I think 10 years ago, these 6, 4 kids, they wanted to be basketball players. They saw themselves as a 6'4 shooting guard in high school, and no one could convince them to go out and play basketball. No one can get them convinced to go out and play tight-end. You're not fast enough to play wide-out. You're a bigger body, especially for guys like me. We weren't going to be star receivers. I'm 6'4, 6'5 in high school. Maybe in the old days, I want to be a basketball player. And then you'd realize very quickly your basketball future is over the second high school ends.

And I think a lot of these people are starting to say, you know what? I'm a 6'4, 6'5 athlete. I'm big. I can run. I got good hands. Tite-end is cool. Tite-end is a position that it's not just the slow wide receiver anymore or the extra offensive tackle. This is a prominent position that teams are starting to feature. And it's been cool because in my 14 years in the league, I came in and there was a handful of Shannon Sharpe's and Tony Gonzales and Antonio Gates. Now it seems like, almost to your point, almost every good team has as a tight end, if not multiple tight ends. And that's been a pretty size and big shift for the position, really, in the last 10, 15 years.

I think that we're almost seeing a renaissance of the position, specifically in the last couple of draughts, like Sam Laporta, Kincaid, Meyer, Musgraves, and then this year, Bowers. These are all guys who are studs, who are going to get a ton of targets, who are going to be the focus of their offense. And I I don't want to give tightend U credit for it, but how many of those guys came through you guys? And is there some thought that the honing of the skillset that you guys are doing is something that is now translating onto the field as far as how these guys are being used?

I think you're spot on. I think the ability to access information, it goes back to your question we started with about former players entering the media, like what you guys are doing here and reddit, and just the ability to share information, share the player's mind through media. And TPU, we're doing it through the camp. But it's all really the same thing. In the old days, what we did inside our locker room or our tight-end room only was spread throughout the league if someone from our room changed teams or got traded or got cut and signed somewhere else or whatever. It really just stayed very incubated in one spot. But nowadays, between the ability for guys to share Instagram videos on route techniques or blocking techniques or drills, offseason training or our camp, T EU, the ability for guys to share the wealth with other people throughout the league and say, it's not a threat to me that you that George Kittle shares with Travis, Kelsey, tips of run blocking or tips of route running, vice versa. It's good for all of us, right? The better the tight end position does across the league, we're all going to ride that wave on the way up.

So I think people have really wisened up to exactly that point where it's cool It's cool to share. It's cool to help other guys get better. The better their careers go, it will indirectly impact you at some point. And I think the ability to share information has never been higher, and the willingness for guys to help each other out and grow the position grow the sport, whatever it is, I don't think it's ever been better or easier than it is now. And I think guys are taking advantage of it.

And Ron, it's so similar to basketball. Obviously, the game has improved than it was, I don't know, 10 years ago, and it's improved 10 years before. But when you're an athlete, you're football, basketball, baseball. If you're an athlete, the competition comes first, right? So getting lost in a competition, I don't want to fucking train with that guy. I don't want to fucking hang with that guy. This motherfucker, he's my motherfucker. He's in my same position. I see him, he gets the ball all the time. I'm a running team. I don't get the ball all the I don't want to fucking train with Trey Young. He's going to know my weaknesses, and I don't want to train with Steph Curry, and he's going to know my weaknesses and try to use it against me, right? But now you see a lot of guys training together. And the only thing when you train together, that just boosts up everything. Okay, cool. I know his weaknesses, but he's going to try to make that a strength now. It forces you, it forces the athlete, it forces the skill to get better with your own competition instead of being in the gym and on the field by yourself.

So I totally agree with that one.

I want you to give me your starting five of Barstool personalities that you've enjoyed over your time. Starting five.

Wow, that's good. All right. Man, I remember back in the day, a buddy of mine from Boston got me on to Barstool when it was just Portnoy. I think they had just expanded to Mo. I think his name is where I'm in, Philadelphia. So they hadn't done Big Cat yet. So they had KFC in New York. So I know he's an O. G. There. So Big So Dave, KFC, I know is an original there from the New York. I know Philly obviously didn't get that close. Maurice closed that. Then Big Cat. So I was in Chicago when Big Cat launched Barstool Chicago. So that's all those famous videos of Portnoy lost the bet when the Blackhawks and the Bruins were in the Stanley Cup and the Blackhawks won. And he had to play the whole kickball game on my charity thing in Grant Park in full hockey gear. And I know that video has been shared. It's obviously Big Pat.

That's how they found Eddie. Isn't that video how they found Eddie or something like that?

There are so many stories out of all these. I can't keep it all straight, but that kickball Barstool Kickball Weekend is one of the all-time videos. I'm trying to remember. I just saw him the other day in the Barstool offices in Chicago when I was there. My boy who slept in, and it was his first weekend, and he missed it.

You're not talking Jersey Jerry, are you?

No.

Ben Mints? Fights. Fights?

Fights, yeah.

Fights. Fights. Fidelberg?

He slept in. He almost got fired from there. There's just a lot of good stories. But yeah, man, I remember when it was just Fortnite, and it was just a handful of athletes that followed it and thought it was funny.

Why does it appeal to athletes? What is it about Barstool that as a consumer, not even to partner with Barstool? Why What appeals to athletes?

I think the thing that... Again, it's hard for me to speak for everyone. I think the thing over the years, everyone always talks about the authenticity. And listen, I think what's cool about our world, and I think what's cool about media these days is you can find within the world of Barstool or whatever media company, but in this case Barstool, you can find the stuff internally, the pods that you like, the articles, the writers that you like, the blog post that you like, and you might not care for the rest of it. You might not agree with the rest of it. You might not like certain guys there. But I think what's cool about it is there's so many different offerings that there's something for everyone. And that doesn't mean if you like your pot, you agree with all of them. It doesn't mean if you like this post that you agree with everything. You can find something that you enjoy. I think there's an authenticity. I think there's a, here's what we are, take it or leave it. And then it's up to the consumer to say, I align with these thoughts and things that I'm a fan and I follow, and I don't align with these stances, and I don't align with these pods or these blogs or these things.

So I'll leave that. And I think that's the beauty of it, right? It doesn't have to be everything for everyone. And I think that's what makes it cool. You consume the content you connect with and you relate to, and you don't consume the content that you don't connect to. And I'm sure there's a lot of crossover between you guys and big Big Cat and PFT. And I'm sure there's people that only watch your show and follow it closely and only follow there. So I think that's the beauty of it all. And I think they've done a great job building out the personalities and crossing over to a lot of different demographics of people and fans. And I think everyone's just looking for something that they can be entertained by and have a little break from the reality. And I think they've done a good job for the most part, putting that together.

I'm going back to football, Real quick. Talk football. You're not a football guy. As an athlete, you sit on a plane, you sit on a bus, you sit in the locker room, you kick shit, you have a conversation. Hey, man, who's the best shooter? You go, Oh, man, Steph Curry. You go, Clay Thompson. You go guys like that. And you guys were locker room. When you played at the time, what were the top three guys that had the best spiral? Were those conversations you guys had?

Yeah. Oh, those same And these conversations are happening in every locker room. It's just a different story, right? I remember coming out, you're like, Hey, who are the best acts? And this is Adrian Peterson, and he is just an absolute monster. And he's like a grown man amongst boys in the NFL. And you're doing all right, who's better? Walter Payton or Adrian Peterson, or who's better? Calvin Johnson or Randy Moss, right? So you get the era conversation, which I know is huge, obviously, in basketball, topic of conversation. But the same things for us. Would this guy have been... Would Johnny Unitas have been able to play a quarterback in today's world? Yeah, he definitely could. And then everyone has their thing. So, yeah, the comps, who's the best? Which guy? James Harrison, the big ass linebacker outside edge rusher from the Steelers all those years. He's one of those guys, when you're getting ready to play the Steelers, you're like, Shit. Like, I got to go up against James Harrison. So the conversation is around, all right, if you had to pick five guys in the league that you could say they're not allowed to play in the game before you're about to match up.

James Harrison, if I get a veto card, he's got to sit his ass on the bench. He doesn't get to play. Yeah, I think the locker room is the fun, right? The locker room is the fun, the stupid arguments, the stupid games, the traditions, the camaraderie. That's what you remember, man. That's the fun. Yeah, we all want to win. We're hyper competitive. You want to make them a lot of money. You want to have a great career. But the connections with the guys, the bullshit in the locker room, the back and forth, the arguments, the fights, the stupid things that when we're getting our ankles taped in the training room, the conversations that would pop up from that are so stupid that in any other context. But to us, it was like, this is super important. We need to flush this out or we can't go to practice. That's That stuff's real. And it doesn't matter what sport you're playing at any level, those what-if conversations are going on everywhere amongst every group of guys in the world.

Who had the best viral?

Guys I played with probably came through the tightest ball.

What does that mean? Explain that to me.

So you hear guys saying, Hey, he can really spin it. You ever heard guys say, he can really spin it?

Yeah.

Really spin it means When that ball comes off his hand, that ball is so tight, it is spinning so fast. It's like wobbling, but it's not. It's just spinning so tight. Certain guys, the ball just comes off their hand different than other guys. Kam was one of those guys. He was so big, he was so strong. And when he threw it, that ball was like whistling. And then early in my career, I played with Brian Greasey. Now, the coach for the 49ers was Monday Night Football commentator, done both media and now coaching. For a young guy, Greasey threw a super easy ball. Point was always up. So catching a ball, ideally for us, you want to catch it around your helmet. It's like you got a big spacesuit helmet on. If I'm running full speed, I want to pick that ball off my facemask if I can. Anything that gets low, down by my knees, it just gets really awkward to try to run and catch balls that are out of your cylinder. So Greasy always threw a ball that for the most part, hits you in the helmet. And the front tip of the ball, the tip you caught, was always higher than the back tip.

So the ball was never diving on you It was never cutting on you. It wasn't traveling sideways, where it was like a curve ball, where it always flew straight. And so you just get used to certain quarterbacks throw a different ball, and you just get used to what you know. But, yeah, like, Cam could really spin it. I mean, that thing was tight, velocity, firm. And if you didn't get your head around, you better have a helmet on, because if you didn't get your helmet around, especially when he was young and early in his career, man, that thing was ripping. And if you didn't If you were to get your head around, you're going to get embarrassed because that thing was going to stick in your face mask like little giants.

That's fired to hear him talk about that.

That is so fire. Pat, same question for you, though. Pat, same question for you. As far as as a shooter, who gives you that pass where it's just right in the pocket?

James Harden, not even close. But Paul George is the worst. With James Harden, a lot of people don't understand, with James Harden, no matter where you are on the court. So the basketball, they have the lines in them, right? And usually, guys like to line a ball up. They like to put, you know how you talk, put a fingertips on the line and you just release it. With James Harden, You never had to fix the laces. They came already fixed. The only thing you had to do is just shoot it.

How did he do that?

I don't know. I don't know, bro. He's literally one of the best... But when Paul George, he throw that motherfucker, you don't know how fast it is. It looks slow, but you catch it fast and it's spinning the other way. So you got to catch it with a guy closing out on you. You got to fix it, fix it again, then shoot it. Like, yeah, it's James Hard and easy. Paul George, Jalen, worse.

Interesting. So it's funny. Long snappers in the NFL, they can make it. I got a field goal, I got a field goal try or an extra point. They know, based on how many times that ball is going to spin out of their hand to the holder, they know exactly where to start the lace in their hand. They don't hold the lace with their hand like you would throw it. They spin it a little off-centered. So when they spin the ball back for the short snack and it gets caught, it's put down always with the laces facing away from the kicker. So to your point, it's the same idea. It's they can feed the ball to the holder. Now, whether the holder catches it too close to his body or too far from his body, the ball spun either not enough or too many times, and now the laces are not on center. So if they catch it in the right spot every time and the center snaps it from the same starting point every time, they can put that ball down a hundred times in a row, and the laces will always be facing the back of the center's That is fucking impressive.

That is impressive.

Or they get to start before the snap and preset. For him to be able to do that and kick the ball off a dribble in real time, I can't even process how that's possible.

Probably the best pick and roll player ever.

It's unbelievable.

The physicality with football, the way they hit now. And I know you played tight in, so you were bigger than most guys. You took a bunch of hits, and nobody really trucked you. Nowadays, is it different now with the helmet-to-helmet rule? And how does that affect gameplay?

Yeah. So it puts a lot of pressure on the defense, but it also takes that back of your head fear. Again, fear is going to sound like, oh, football players are playing scared. The toughest football players in the world, the guys that are fearless and reckless, and they're still that element in the back of their head that when they go across the middle of the field, especially when I first came in the league, there were no rules. You could literally just get your shit knocked out. But now, knowing that defender, he could still do it to you, but he's going to pay a big time fine, which is the primary source of not wanting to And then obviously the penalty. But the fine is what really gets these guys to change their behavior. And so now I'm running down the middle of the field and the ball is up in the air and I got to go up and attack it, and I got to go get it, and I'm exposed. I know I could take a hit in the shoulder and the hips. And again, it's not going to feel great. But knowing that more likely than not, this guy can't just come defenseless receiver and just lay me out like he used to, you see a lot more balls thrown into traffic.

You've seen a lot more balls thrown into tight windows in the middle of the field, where maybe 10, 15 years ago, that quarterback is not making that throw. He doesn't want to put his guy in jeopardy. The quarterback's job is to protect his target. We're like dogs. You throw it, I got to go get it. I don't get to pick and choose. No, I don't feel great about that ball. That guy was going to hit me. You throw it, I got to chase it. That's my job. But now I got to trust the guy throwing it That you're not going to lead me into something I can't see, lead me into something where now I'm really exposed and I'm taking shots in the ribs or in the head, in the back. So there is a trust factor between the quarterback and his target where he's going to trust us that we're going to do some tough things every once in a while and bail out a bad throw. That's our job. And we got to know, you can't ask me to do that a hundred times because I'm going to die. So there is that give and take where I got your back, but damn, I got you all day, buddy, but you got to have me, too.

And the more trust you have with that guy and the more rapport, you know, I'm going to go up and bail him out of this throw, and I might expose myself because I'll do it for him because I know for the most part, he never does this to me. So I got to do it every once in a while to make it even. So there is that relationship.

But let them go wrong. Don't ask any more questions. The man got shit to do.

Busy man, tight on you.

You guys are fun, man. This is cool. I see a lot of your clips on social, obviously, with the playoffs and the NBA stuff. It's fun. You guys do a lot of cool stuff. You guys are really good, man. I'm happy to be on. This was fun.

No. Thank you so much. I'm a Chicago kid. I fucking love when you play for the bears. I fucking love when you play for the bears. So always been a big fan. Pleasure to meet you. It's an honor doing this. Good luck with everything, Mr. Olson. Thanks so much, sir. Yes, sir.