Pap F. P. With Ron. Ron. So let's cross the barrier again. All right. Yeah, we're together again. We're together again, bro.

I got shit to do.

I'm happy to have you out here, bro. I appreciate that.

I told you, every time until I start playing basketball on the team again, I'm going to be out here recording.

And I told you, bro, we can record more than one in a week if you want to, bro. You know what I'm saying? The Delta Miles are about to be crazy. It's okay.

Shout out to Barstool.

Fine Delta.

Shout out to... What's her name? Kaitlyn.

She's the one booking you? Yeah.

Shout out. She's making everything cool.

What did they serve you on the flight today?

I went to sleep, hopefully. I had to put me on the...

Bro, stop wasting these first-class meals, dude. You could have had the short rib or a frittata or something like that.

No, I'm fine. I like the sleep I have. I was sleep-deprived from last night.

What happened last night?

Just took a little stroll around Cali a little bit, late night drive, caught a vibe, normal shit.

I love to take a late night drive because I think the music that you lock into, it completely can determine probably 30 days of how good your life is. If you have a good late night vibe music. My question is, what were you listening to for this vibe?

So I'm on song five of the Drake album. I'm not one of those guys who go through the whole album.

No, you got to slow play.

Yeah, you have to.

Just take a bite at a time.

I don't know, years to make this album. So I like to take my time in it. So I'm on Raining in Houston right now.

Oh, very nice. Yeah, just a little bit at the time. There's no reason to binge an album. You can just take a little nibble of it, really appreciate the- These American guys are something different.

They just talk looser than us. Yeah, he could call. He called. That's my fucking call.

That sounded nice when you sang it, bro.

That's my fucking Draco. Yeah, bro. Yeah, he called.

So like, Orlando. Orlando Hudson? Who's it, bro? Orlando Brown? I don't know. Pat Bev, back in the flesh. Your voice. It sounds so bad. Ever since the last time you had us on the Pink Whitney, I've been sick since then, bro. I got two cups. And you're back on it. I'm not touching the Pink Whitney.

I'm not on I'm not on it. I'm on the body armor with zero sugar.

Okay, so it's a combination. That fact that you have both, it makes me glad. The fact that you're coming to New York a lot makes me glad. Am I hearing rumors that you're just looking at real estate while you're out here? Is that true? Or is that a rumor that I heard through the grapevine? Or is that actually true? No, that's true.

Really? I feel like anything with media has to come to New York, right? Has to. Has to. So why not prepare for the future? If I do decide to, I don't know, go in the media area, I have somewhere in New York to live.

And the prices are only going up in New York. I'll tell you that much.

I'm talking about like cocaine in the '80s, buddy.

Jesus Christ, bro.

Wow.

Which Ronald Reagan did put there.

Chill, not too much.

I mean, I can't speak the truth.

You can, but not too much on the part.

I'm just saying a little bit.

You know what I mean? Leave that for Son of a Boy Dad. Not on the color part.

It would sound fucked up if I was talking about that on Son of a Boy Dad. Or maybe I need to take it to everybody. Maybe I need to let everybody know. So that was sad times, and there are sad times going on today, even. What's going on? I don't know if you've had an eye on what's going on in Dallas at all. I've been on a plane. I know you saw what happened in Dallas.

Unbelievable.

Kyrie, left knee, out for the year.

You got to pull up for Kyrie. You have to. Want some good well shit. Off strength. And don't college girl me neither. Don't drink it and spit it in the body on it.

I would never do that for Kyrie.

Kyrie. Kyrie, Ky, get well soon, bro. Straight prayers up, man. If anyone can get through this, you definitely can. Yeah, get well soon. From Pat Bear Pot, Wronski.

A speedy recovery, man. That looked absolutely horrific. We love you as a basketball player. We love what you bring to the league. No hate over here, bro. We just love Kyrie. We wanted to get better. There's no joy that we take in seeing the demise of the Dallas Mavericks.

But now you have to think, right? Now you have to think, right? Guys playing a lot of minutes by other guys I heard, guys taking up more on a load on their bodies. You talk about a guy who's contract year, right? Looking towards getting the max, winning games. Anthony Davis is hurt, winning games. Lucadontus trade. As an owner, how do you play out this situation? Do you max him out just because of the love and respect, what he's brought to the table? And And that's where it's the gray area with players. And that's why you see players on the move so much because, motherfuck, you hurt. Are you still going to take care of me? Or is it, what have you done for me lately, vibes?

And we'll get to the Sixers in a minute, but they've gone through this exact same thing. Yeah.

So I think that's the question. That's the biggest question going around. I think sports, right? I played my ass off for more than half of the season. I have a season-end injury. Do you still pay the athlete?

I think that if you do it off the strength of what the player has done as a thank you, it almost becomes emotional. And I know you're a business person yourself. You're out here in New York with business to conduct, do you think that conducting your business emotionally is a smart way to do business?

I think you have to leave emotions out when you do business.

So that That makes me think that it'd be harder for Kyrie to get this max contract with Dallas. If you're conducting it without any type of emotion, you're just looking clinically as almost as if it's a product. But we just said a person behind that product.

Yeah, I mean, that was one of the cases why you talk about them trading Luka Donchis in a second apron and not willing to pay a guy that much money. What do you do in this circumstance? Paying him. Anthony Davis coming up. He was just in a Championship last year. Is this an effect of management? My next question, question one was contract. Question two now is, Do you look at management and be like, with the trade? Did we mess this up? Did we drop ball? Not drop ball on we shouldn't have traded this person, but they're Our whole season has changed now.

For the worst.

You know what I'm saying? You make the trade. I wouldn't say you get damaged goods back, but obviously, when you get Anthony Davis, he's not going to play every game in the NBA season, right? That's fair to say.

You bought a new car and it broke down as soon as you drove it off the lot.

And then as soon as you put that car in for repair, now you have to drive the car you've been driving all year long. It's been good. Old reliable, yeah. It's been the old reliable, right? And Kyrie. And then you put some more extra miles on him, and now he broke down a little bit. You know what I'm saying?

It's not his fault. It's not like it was a Lemon. That's a classic car. That's a very expensive car.

We're talking about Ferrari. Yeah. Emergency breaks. He got emergency brakes on the pedal. Right. Yeah, this motherfucker.

He got- Built low to the ground. Corners like it's on rails. And that's why it's even tougher to watch that injury happen.

You're talking about 40 from the 3, 90 from the free throw line this year.

Yeah, He's pretty much perfect. Best handle we've ever seen.

Yeah. Again, winning games without Anthony Davis and Luka Donzis. Do you give him his money?

I think that he'll recover. I don't know what their other options are as far as free agency. I know that they also traded Quentin Grimes, who just put up 40 for the Sixers. It's like, that's the guy who you'd like to have in a situation like this if you're expecting AD to even come back. But now everything, the infrastructure is built for Kyrie to be there. Claire Thompson doesn't take a four-year deal, three-year deal, whatever it was, unless he's expecting Kyrie to be there. He would be completely... He probably expected Luca to be there, too, honestly.

That type of shit.

But at the same time, if you're the front office, this is the injury that's really hard to come back from on a guy who can hit the brakes, like you said. That's going to affect his braking ability. But if we're going to keep on playing the other side of it, then I also have seen a guy like you come back from a horrific injury.

That's the question, right? That's the question we're left with. And they pay them. Do other teams follow that trend of playing people who've been hurt Or you don't pay them. Do other teams follow that trend? And that's it. And that's the thing right there where you can, okay, are these organizations loyal to the product or are they loyal to the organization? Because loyalty will say, of course, pay the shit out of them. What's what you mean? Of course. Of course.

But there's a salary cap. There's a finite amount of money, but there's also a finite amount of superstars in the league. And Kyrie, I think we can all agree, is a superstar.

I'm very interested to see how this goes.

It just sucks for them. Sucks for Clay.

It sucks for everybody. No one wants to see injuries, especially that type of injuries, season-ending injuries. You know what I'm saying? Especially when you're going out there just doing what you love to do.

You think Nico, their GM, you think he's slept in the last week?

I wouldn't say eight hours.

I hope not.

I wouldn't say eight hours. I think he pushing probably five and a half, six type shit.

Yeah, maybe the couple of nights of one or two. Yeah. And last night was probably, it could have been a zero. He could have put up a goose egg. He could have just done cardio.

I mean, he's tough. You have a lot of balls in LA going to a Luka game sitting in the stands.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Not only is he taking on the chin, he being a gangster, too. Yeah, motherfucker, I'm out. So what? And then he said something like, Yeah, time will tell. How does it play out?

I think the time will tell, but also the amount of rumors that are coming out about Luka, clearly from within the Mavs, where it's like the Mavs organization is predicting a massive downfall of Luca, where his body gives out in the next five years. Why are you putting that information out into the press? Because if you weren't insecure about how you're being viewed on this trade, you wouldn't need to leak these stories to try to influence the narrative in a certain way.

Why is it always like that? Why is it always bad stories?

Because I think the GM wants everyone to say, Hey, you did a good job, instead of letting time. Let time play out then. I think that he's just sick about how people are treating him. I was outside earlier today with two friends. They're smoking. You know what I mean? Just hanging out outside smoking, having one of those conversations you have when you're smoking with your friends.

I wouldn't know. I I don't smoke.

Well, that's why I'm just trying to explain it to you. Thank you. You know what I mean? Okay, thank you. Not even a cigar from time to time.

No, I smoke a cigar.

Exactly. So like a cigar smoking session, we're out front and we're just talking ball, talking hoops, and we get into a debate about who's had a worst season, all things considered. The Dallas Mavericks or the Philadelphia 76ers. The Dallas Mavericks obviously came off of a championship run last year.

I think the motherfuckers I think you... What they call it in track when you both finish at the same time, they call it-Photo finish? Yeah, I think the motherfuck is pushing that wrong.

They're pushing the photo finish right now.

I think they're pushing the photo finish. I think they tick for tat, if you know what I mean.

Honestly, I think it might be the Mavericks.

I don't know.

Okay.

You don't know how Joel Embiid is. You're talking about... I don't have seen some shit talking about this retired.

I saw that, too.

You know what I'm saying?

I've seen that, too.

You talk about bone on bone. Alonso Ball, bone on Bone, is very different than Joel Embiid, if it is bone on bone. You know what I'm saying? You're talking about two different monsters. Yeah.

So yeah, especially with the size. And I've seen that, that the Sixers could lose- I say Philly, bro.

I say Philly, dog. I say Philly. They got my man PG not doing pod no more.

Yeah. I I mean, get to that.

They got my man not doing the pod no more. I've been in Philly.

You've podded in Philly.

I podded in Philly. You feel me? I done been outside podding in Philly. I podding in Philly. They know me. Pat, the pod. Yeah, I'm about to go record right now. You just seen the deal we got. I'm on the team, we 21 and 9. The best fucking 30-game record. I'm in 30-games podding. You feel me? Yeah, you're always on the podding. So I tell P, man, lead the podding of me, bro, because I could take the punches. I'm used to a motherfucker calling me trash. My motherfucker been calling me trash my whole life. That ain't changed. What are you doing? You call me a garbage can then. Make it proper. Make it something else for me. I'm used to this shit.

So you think that he's not used to?

No, he ain't used to that Philly shit. He ain't used to that Philly shit. I told you what happened me in Philly, motherfucker. Tell me, I call a Uber. Hey, man, I'm going up here. That's how you going? I don't go up there, man. Find another Uber. I damn. He wouldn't be used to that. He'd be confused. You know me? I show I love. Tipped them anyway. Love, gang, love. Way to give it to me the way I understand it, I get in there. I don't go that way, man. Council Uber, find another one. Yeah, I'm gone. Close my door, please. Man, I still tipped them. Five-star of them. You five-star of them? Lincey told me. Yeah. Philly, man. Yeah, but he kept it a beam. He kept what they said, kept with a beam. Kept it a beam. Right. They kept with a bean. Yeah, I'm out here podding Philly. Yeah, podcast P. He got troubles. He didn't retire from the pod game.

No, bro. I think he just put it on hiatus.

No. He's Retired, retired? So what that means? That means you don't talk to the media at all?

I think he said he wants to get back to doing it in person with his bros, with his pod bros.

Listen, man.

You think that's all she wrote? You think we'll ever see podcast P on the sixth again?

Ain't that crazy? They done I love them and whip them and whipped them out. They done whip P out. I said, damn.

He signed a long contract. There's plenty of time. He's never going to pod again.

Man, I was ecstatic to do the pod while I was in Philly.

Yeah.

I'm telling you, I got people next door who know we're doing a pie next door. It's a motherfucking bar. What's the bar called? Buffalo Billion. Buffalo Billion. You guys going to do a pie? Yeah, man. Want a shot? We send some shots up there. No, we're cool. All right.

They love the pie. We should have taken the shots.

No, we took the love.

The love. Yeah, it was love.

He took the shots. It's what it sound like. He took shots. No love.

It's wild. He said he's taking time away from the podcast.

They don't Whooped him out.

He said he's taking time away from the podcast to get his body right. He said, to get my body right, to get my mind right. I didn't realize podcasting was that strenuous on the body, but then I'd stand up. Sometimes my lower back does hurt, bro.

Okay. From father to heart.

You know what I mean? Just from the posture. So maybe he's been potting so hard. It's like fucking up his lumbar spine.

That's going up into his upper back, which is causing his shoulders.

He's probably fucking up his scapular. You know what I mean?

That's it. I'm not trying to hit that shit, man. Trying to hit that shit, man.

Oh, bro.

That game don't change. Game don't change. Rim 10 feet. Every arena, ball's still way the same.

I wonder if there's negative comments on the pod.

Put that bitch in a hole.

On the pod. You think on the pod, Philly fans were going on the pod? For sure. Saying negative stuff.

For sure. 100%. My thing is this, though, right? My thing is this, right? And this is what people have to understand when you're doing anything with media, especially podcasting. I had somebody walk up to me and go, Man, Pat, I love the dynamic with you and Ron. This might have been yesterday, two days ago. I went to Oscars. I went to some Oscar parties. The fuck? Yeah. Met with some people, and they were like, Yo, we love the fucking pie with you and Ron. What we don't like is the famous guys in the NBA doing a pod Because it's nothing that we can relate to when they talk. But you and Ron, it feels like I'm kicking shit with me and my homies. I'm like, Yeah, that's all we do.

That's what it's supposed to be like.

When you're famous and you do pie, obviously, the famous there, so you get, I don't know, more subs. It's quicker than the next person.

I think you have to classify it a different way because I don't know if you know it or not, bro, but you're famous. I don't know. You can't be like, Yeah, these famous NBA players.

Okay, well, all-star NBA players. Okay, fair enough. All-star You're the first-star NBA players. Max guys. Max guys, right? What you go tell the next Joe Blow? Yeah, motherfucker. I've been max since I've been in NBA.

You're 6'8, bro. We know.

You know what I'm saying, type shit. So when you have that behind you and you have that all-star telling you, you have that max contract with you, the criticism is going to be even quadruple. It ain't going to be double, it's going to be triple quadruple. Now, can you deal with... You'll get more or you will get more comments of why you're not playing well through your pod that you hear in real life. And that's my thing. So now don't throw in a towel. I'll be a gangster. Let me see a gangster. Let me see you a gangster now. Let me see how fun you ride it out.

Well, a lot of the comments I'm seeing are people being like, Hey, the Sixers are just about to convert to a tank anyway. You might as well just keep doing the pop because they're going to tank. You know what I mean? They're going to want to know the Sixers. And to go back to the original question, the Mavericks might lose three stars this year. They lost Luca, they have lost AD to injury, and they lost Kyrie to injury. They just lost three stars. The Sixers might pick up a star through the draft lottery.

Have we ever seen anything like this this year where a team loses three all stars in one season.

I've never seen that. The Sixers and Mavericks were expected to be contenders this year. No. Don't you think? Sixers made the PG move to become a contender this year. I agree with that.

Totally agree with that.

But I saw a post that you put online about the Sixers saying that the process is perhaps a failure.

Yeah.

You think so? You think it's over for MB then?

No, I don't think it's over for MB, but to still trust something after time and time again. No, I can't trust I don't think that. I think that process is over. I think- Of trust? Right.

Yeah, I might be losing a little bit of trust in the- A little bit. You're from Philly. Sixers front office just because I saw somebody- I don't think the quote of trust the process has anything to do with Joel and B.

Let's get that understood. Trust the process isn't like, Oh, Joel and B gets healthy, and we win it all. No, trust the process is It came from management. It came from coaching. It came from management. So as a Philly fan, you're like, Okay, we trusted them. How long does this process last first? Is this a 10-year process type of thing? Is this a two-deck How long does this last? I think that's the biggest thing.

This is what made me start doubting about the process. This picture, describe what it is to the people out there.

I'm looking at a woman who's on top of snow with very little clothing on.

G-string.

Yeah. And blondey. It's fair to say. I can't get a little closer, but her hair looks like it's blonde. And I look at the like photos.

So that's Keisha. And the Like photos is liked by Darryl Mori and others. Darryl Mori is out here just liking ass. Wow, this is happening to the sixth or sixth of our 20 games under 500, and he's liking Keisha's ass. Focus up, Darryl. Focus the hell up. Not Keisha. There's got to be better ass that he can like out there, first of all. Second of all, do it on a damn burner like every other Philly GM in history. You Fucking pervert. Not while the Sixers are going through this. Paul George is at least stepping up being like, What can I do? I'll cancel my podcast. And Darryl Morey said, I can't even help myself from publicly liking Hesha's ass. I know.

Maybe it was one of those things where your thumb goes fast. You try to scroll and scroll again and you tap. No. No. No, you're not rolling with that.

No, bro. Stop making excuses for this, man. The Sixers are 20 games under 500.

Unbelievable. We had the best record of 30 games since Allen Iverson. It was unbelievable last year. The vibes were literally unbelievable. Daryl Morey- You horny bastard. Are you trading me? No. I go to my homie and I come home from that conversation. How you feel about Trade Deadline? I'm cool. Philly's home. I love Philly. What are you talking about Trade Deadline? Everything cool. Hey, bro. You've been hooping. Man, you might be out of there. How you think? All right, next thing you know, I get a call 832.

No, I'm out of there. Darryl Mori. Am I getting traded? No. Pat gets traded. Darryl Mori, are you liking Keisha's ass pictures? No. And I check, and there's a ass picture like them That's very unfortunate. Very unfortunate.

He's going through it right now.

Not Keshia's ass, dude. Not Keshia's ass.

Yeah. Look, in other news, everywhere I go, people love to pot. That's That's true. I've seen Carmelo Anthony last time I was in New York. We bumped up, we were in the same spot. I'm like, Man, happy for you. You made a success. I made a success. What you all doing with that part over there is absolutely phenomenal. I've seen him and Rudy Gay at a spot. Yeah, It's good, man. People know the pot.

Salute to the bros. That's so nice of Carmelo, man.

Super happy for you. They know what we bring to the table.

What a great dad he is as far as creating another hooper in this beautiful world.

Him and Lala. Can't leave her out.

Yes, great She's also a great parent doing great stuff over there. You know who I ran into this weekend by then say hi because I don't have a relationship like that? My Jewish brother, Amari Stoudemire.

Love that. Why are you even saying what's your name?

Because Leheim. Leheim, yeah. I ran into the Torah scholar Amari Stoudemire in Brooklyn Heights. Just walking past him on a Sunday. Good dude. He seems like it. Great dude.

And he's the hoop. You know what took him out, right?

I don't know.

Injury-wise.

Was it the same thing you had? Damn, bro. Microfactor?

Microfactor.

Microfactor is fucking brutal.

Brutal. Bone on bone. I got all types of shit on the side. Sometimes I wake up, I'm going to I ain't firing my left side. Instead of doing 10 reps, I could do on my left side. On this right side, I got to do 22 reps just to... Yeah, injuries are a motherfucker. And fans, this is what you guys have to understand, right? You guys can say athletes are prima donnas, and they want one, and they take, take, take. You hear some owners and management say the same thing, but this is why. All right? This is why. I go D D-Rose. D-rose, what's up, bro? You're mad, Pat. I ain't going to lie. I'm tired of getting put to sleep. Simple as that. I ain't even by the energy.

Well, every time you go under anesthesia, it has a negative effect on your brain.

I'm tired of getting put to sleep, Pat. I want to play with my son when he get older. I don't want to be walking funny type shit. So now as players, you make decisions like, Okay, cool. I'm going to sit out this game. I'm not going to play back to backs. And then you do that, you hear shit from fans. You hear Joel and B, he's never healthy. Knee, knee, knee. He go out there and try to push yourself. Mind you, I'm in games with Joel and I'm like, Joe, sit down, bro. I'm looking at your knee. Your knee looks slow now, bro. What are you trying to prove? What are you trying to prove, bro? What are you trying to prove? We got Golden State. We got the Nuggets on the back to back. What are you trying to prove? You can go out there and play with Jokuj because people say you ain't played in a while. What are you trying to prove, bro? Fuck that. Fix Fix your shit, though. You're not going to be able to walk with your son type shit. This is what the fans don't know. They just want, Why the fuck is he playing?

They want this person to play every game, and they make jokes, and you have these people who have Haven't played basketball that go on their media outlets. And, yeah, this person is heard, and he's soft, and back in the day, this, and he should be playing when the real comes. It's like, no. If I can play, I can play. If I can't, I can't. I'm hurt.

One of the other guys that got a gold medal with him, Steph Curry, put up what he's calling the last dunk of his NBA career. Did you see that?

Yeah, a little, what we call it a little rim grazer.

Emory M. Grazer. Emory M. Grazer. You know what I mean?

Yeah, with that 52, though.

The 52 looked incredible.

That 52 looked real. That motherfucker got crazy.

Yeah, that's a beautiful game that will age so well.

I was telling somebody the other day, man, you got to think me and Steph, we saying Same age, so same year, same drive. I'm not saying drive. Same drive class. Same year, same year, graduated high school, like 88. So I'm telling somebody the story. Me and him at every all-American camp together. Paul peers camp, LeBron camp. And the USA team together under 19. And the frustration that he had some days coming home from camp. He went to Davis, and I didn't fucking know what Davis is. What's up, bro? You first meet a motherfucker. What's up, bro? My name's Pat. My name's Steph. What's up? What's up? What school you go to? I go to Davidson. What the fuck is that?

Davidson.

All right. He was like, what school you go to?

Sounds like a synagogue.

I'm like, I go Arkansas. You all, okay, okay, okay. How you like it? How you like your basic conversation? What you do? You dunk? No, I shoot the ball. All right. What you do? I do everything. I defend it, I shoot it. I do everything. You all, okay. So that's how me and Steph met. The frustration he used to come back to the hotel room, dorm, wherever they have us stand, of like, you're never on the same team, the guy you're your dormant with or a roommate with. So I'm, How you play? How you shoot it? That's so good. And his handle wasn't where it was now, so people was picking his ass up full-court, so he really couldn't get his tray ball off. And I'm like, I That's cool, bro. We wait till tomorrow. Wait till tomorrow we play. Mind you, I've never seen him play, so I go check him out. Okay, cool. Our game finished early. Let me see what my roommate doing over there. I'm a fan. She's my roommate. Go cook. He come past half-court, shoot that bitch out. What?

He was doing it then?

That bitch grazed around. Not even close. Grazed around. Next position, come back, shoot fade away leaner. He just clank off the back. What the fuck? He come back to the room. Hey, though, you got to stop shooting that shit that far, though. That's my shot. I know, but you shooting that bitch far, though. You shooting that bitch half court. That's my shot. It's just not going in right now. All right. You feel me? I don't know. Fast forward, I don't know, 27 years. It's his shot.

Yeah, it really is his shot.

Mr. 52.

And he still can't fucking... He can't stop shooting.

That motherfucking shoot. That motherfucker is easy. You got to understand, this was before the NBA. So to see him work out, me and Johnny Flane used to be like, Bro, stop shooting that shit, Steph. He messed my shot. We know, but stop shooting that shit, bro. You're not making anything. You're getting the ball, no one's touching it. It's one dribble past half-court, and you're heaving that motherfucker. Swing that bitch, get it off another action or something like that. Bro, that's my shot. So you know me, I go right to YouTube. Hold on. I'm going to see what's going on. Youtube, Davis and Steph Curry. They got my man coming out three, four, five pin downs. My fucking dribble the ball pass here, come off around, wrap back around, shooting fade away. Oh, this motherfucking shoot, shoot. So Yeah, he was right. That's his motherfucking shot. It is his shot. So, yeah, young kids, whatever your shot is, shoot that motherfucker. Don't be discouraged.

Well, how much do you think that him adding the handle actually freed up his shot in the long run? A ton.

Yeah. Not the handle, but like the... The handle, anything... Okay, with basketball, when you talk basketball, the more tighter your handle is, the more comfortable you'll be as a basketball player going into any game. We like to call the handle your jab for boxers out there who understand boxing. You feel me? Your jab is, Hey, get the fuck back. Why are you so close? Get the fuck back. Hold on, let me build something. Let me stick this jab. Let me build my knockout. So for basketball players, the handle is like, the more comfortable the handle is, the more tighter the handle is, the more comfortable you're going to be to go anywhere with the ball. So for him adding a handle, it wasn't to break you down and shoot the three. It Let me get more comfortable. Let me get more comfortable getting in the pain, keeping my dribble, getting back out the pain. I got the five on me, swing it, get it back, dribble, dribble, dribble, pull up. So I think the handle was him getting more comfortable in the game.

It changed everything for him. For sure. And you can create a little bit of space, man. 52. 52 is impressive, man. Dunking is impressive.

At 36.

It's very impressive. 88, man. What a great year '88 was.

Some poopers came out of '88, huh?

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We got a question. This is going to go viral, but I got to ask. Now that we're talking about Steph Curry, I like to look at size, I like to look at position, I like to look at status. We hate to see injuries, right? Of course. But I don't know. Injury happened. I don't know. Somebody like Steph, or something like God forbid, we don't want any injuries to happen. And this Steph contract here, Golden State, 100% gives him whatever that max is, right?

Of course.

Now, my question is, does Dallas do the same That's a good question.

I hadn't thought on that. No.

Why? Because-he hasn't done.

He hasn't got him any championships, much as four.

I literally got him to the NBA Championship.

He got him to the Championship, but he hasn't gotten them.

But the last time Dallas has been to the Championship.

Yeah, when Dirk won the last one.

That's my question, which goes to, what have you done for me lately? What have you done for me lately? You didn't tell the people about these shoes on the Tims on the fucking pod.

You only told them off air.

Can they see it? Can we see them? Can we see the shoes? All right, so I got- He came in with the Tims, the Black Tims.

I was like, What are those Tims? Off-white Tims. I didn't even know they were off-white.

You see that red, and it ain't motherfucking on sale, Tim.

I didn't know if it was on sale. It looked like you maybe got them on sale.

So I love Tims, right? I got, I don't know, 20 pairs of Tims. I got spray-painted Tims. I got Chicago Edition Tims. I got Tims that size 13. I got Tims that size 12. I got two pairs of Tims that size 11. I got all types of Tims. It's depending on my swag. You feel me?

You're a Tim guy. Right.

Tim guy. I'm in Toronto. I'm in Toronto, and I get a knock at my door. Knock, knock, knock. I go, Who's there? No one answers. I look out. It's Shaeguild as Alexander. I open door. Bro, we got a game tomorrow. Lock in. You know what I mean, bro? I know you like Tims. I'm giving you these Tims.

So he gifted you these beautiful-I didn't even know Tims made off-white.

What are these you giving me? Man, I've been in love with these motherfucker Tims since day one. Shout out to shit.

So beautiful suede.

He was a rookie. You got to think this is rookie year. He giving me Tim because he know I like Tim. Damn, bro. I know you like Tim, bro.

I say less. Was he trying to get out of some rookie hazing shit?

No, he was perfect. He was a perfect rookie. He was so good. Me and Lou, we, what to do? I just want to do everything. We tell him to bring donuts, he bring them. I think he was late one time. I ever.

You know what I'm saying? Did you have him singing Happy Birthday? Because I saw a clip of... Who was it? The fucking Lakers rookie singing to Luka, singing Happy Birthday to him.

I probably saw. We probably had him do some singing. But you got to think my name for Shay wasn't Shay. It was Alexander. His name was Slink.

Slink?

He was like a slinky, tall slinky motherfucker. He does have a bit of a slink, though. I always called his ass, Hey, yo, Slink. So, yeah, shout out to Slink.

You think that he just didn't like those? Why did he give him to you?

I think he was showing love.

Yeah, because I feel like those go with his style.

And we're in a six, too. I think he was just showing love. Shout out to Slink, MVP, man.

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I'm going in order. I ain't leaving it out there. I'm going in order. One, Shaq Yildish Alexander. Two, LeBron James. Three, Donovan Mitchell. Four, Jokić. Five, Greek Freak.

Donovan Mitchell, number three.

That's what I said.

Is that based on the success of the team this year?

Yeah. Success of the team this year. The most valuable player. You take Donovan Mitchell out, it's hard for them motherfuckers to win against anybody.

I heard that they're on pace for the best record since the Warriors went 73-9.

I heard what I said.

That's pretty good, but not enough to actually have him on seat, either LeBron or Shay.

He's the best player. He's the most valuable player on his team this year.

Who?

Shay.

Interesting. What would it take for LeBron to get to that top spot? Or do you think that the NBA has just resigned to the fact that LeBron is not going to get his fifth MVP because MJ had five MVPs, and that's hollowed ground?

If somehow the Lakers can get to number one seat, LeBron James, I think he can slip in and get that MVP.

It will be awesome.

It'll be unbelievable.

From a pure basketball fan's perspective, that would be awesome.

And you talk about a motherfucker who, tonight, 50,000. It's been a motherfucker 50K.

The fact that he stopped at 49,99 '89 is crazy. It's wild. But it's even more poetic. First bucket tonight. I would foul him. Should we talk about that tweet?

What tweet?

You retweeted it.

Tell it. What does it say? I retreat a lot of shit.

Darvin Ham would have saw Luka struggling the first few games and benched him for Pat Biff. What did I say? You said, Wild take, but so accurate. Brian, have Pat Biff.

What have you done for me lately? Yeah, shout out to Coach Ham. Darwin Ham is getting- He likes to give everyone a chance, no matter who you are.

Yeah, he's getting clowned mercilessely.

I like it.

Someone else sent this clip of Darvin Ham over to me and you. I thought it was there, it was happening.

Hey, man. First off, we got to put some respect on Coach Ham He don't want to cup.

You want to watch it, get it narrated?

He don't want to cup two years in a row. We're undefeated in the cup games. We don't have nothing to add to say about Coach Ham. He apologized to me for that season. I have nothing bad to say about Coacham.

I didn't ask you to say anything bad. What was going on in that huddle?

Nothing.

What was he saying?

Motivator. He's a bigger motivator. He's huge in motivation. Yeah. Right? Things don't work. Let's not try to find another course to make it work. Let's fucking make it work. We can't get through this wall. Let's not try to find another wall where we can get through together. Let's bust through this wall. He's a huge motivator.

So just stay the course.

Yeah, but as a coach, that shit don't work. Yeah. I'm not fucking here for them motivators. What's them Xs and O's, Coach? Who in the game? Who finish in the game? How many motherfucking minutes I'm playing? What's the play?

What's the play?

What's the fucking play?

What was the play?

Get a ball, LeBron or Anthony Davis. That's what the play ended up to be that year with that team, which is perfect.

What did he write on the whiteboard? Did he just write... Because I think you wrote Pat first, or like P-B or something.

Pb, K9.

So he just wrote the lineup down.

The lineup was only down. I don't think there was a play, and that was a long time out. You know what I'm Yeah. So he's a huge motivator. You know what I'm saying? He's huge. He's a huge motivator. He's won. He's undefeated in the Cup. So you got to give him a little credit. He went to the Western Conference with the team in his second year, his first year.

He won a Cup in the second year. He's not as big of an X's and O's as as Yeah, everyone.

And that's just like a player. Everyone has strengths. Their strengths. Strengths and weaknesses. So that's why you have to have a really good coaching staff around them, too.

Right. I'm motivation, too.

Type shit.

I'm not a mad X's and O's guy. But I didn't realize you could make it to the NBA coach just as motivator, which makes me think I have a chance, though. No, you don't. Because I motivated that high of a level.

You'll be a good second coach.

Yeah, so that's on the table.

Yeah, second coach.

If I have success as a second coach- Like a second coach, like the head coach, the assistant coach, then you. That's good, though. Because head coach... We win a championship, and head coach retires, second coach gets head job, then I'm getting it. Then I wind up with the head job.

You're assistant to get it.

Yeah, but then that guy gets a head job.

Now you're- And now I'm getting hit. I don't know how it goes, but I mean, whatever.

I think I could motivate my way into it. If D-Ham could do it, the way that what I just saw in that huddle made me believe. So was it when you guys get back to the locker room without D-Han being there and you talk about what happened in the huddle, what's the conversation? I saw Russ was in the background there.

I I'm not the type to talk about what's in the huddle. I like to talk about like, All right, cool. Big possession. Let's rebound it. Let's get to stop. Everybody box out like the small things. I think if you correct the small things, in basketball, I think- Big things will come.

Yeah, that type of shit. Totally. I was watching- K Cunnerham, Most Improver, No. Easily. I mean, that's chalk. That's not even an interesting pick.

Yeah, he's my number one there. My next one is this. Robert Horry says, If LeBron James got the same calls as Shaquille O'Neill, he would be averaging 30 points a game. And it'd be no question who's the MVP because he's so much better, physically stronger. League, would you make a vital mistake if you give that to someone other than him right now.

I think that LeBron James does get the calls. We've praised him, we've given him his flowers. No, he don't.

He don't get no calls. I played with him.

I've been in game. The disparity of calls that the Lakers get outpaces every team by maybe 800 foul calls or something over the last...

You got to think I've been in games with Ron and Boston on TV. Motherfuck get whacked on his arm. Rep don't call nothing.

I remember that game.

I had to go grab camera just to show him, motherfucker.

That game was rigged. I remember that.

A rep, maybe you didn't see it, but what the fuck is this, man? What is this on this camera, man?

The Lakers get so many more fouls calls.

That was the last time that man then rep, too. Eric wasn't that, man.

So do you think it's appropriate I'm excited to call out refs by name because I saw this week that the bro from the Cavs, Ty Jerome, called out a ref by name, by her name.

See what they did to him.

25.

Belted ass. Yeah. Refs up 25.

Yeah. Easy 25. Ty Jerome said, I thought the refs were really bad tonight, especially Natalie. She was really bad.

Okay. Let's rewind it. Now, let's go through the same sentence, and I'm going to just add the belt effect to it. Okay. You go slow.

Ty Jerome on the officiating tonight. I thought the refs were really bad tonight, especially Natalie. She was really bad.

Yeah, that's 25,000. That's 25, right there. That's 25, right there. That's 25, right there. That'll last 25. If you would have said one more word, it would have been a nifty 50. You understand? A LeBron James.

He doesn't even exactly have the loosest 25 to give that some star players on his team might have.

I meant to tell you about Tad Jerome. They played Boston, and they won.

Even though Boston was celebrating about two seconds in the- Fuck out of here.

My goodness. When we talk about slow feet don't eat, they were cooking Tad Jerome. They was cooking Tigerone, they was cooking garland. They was cooking them two motherfuckers.

You think that those slow feet don't eat? They're the poster children for slow feet not eating?

We We talked about this earlier in the year. Of course we did.

But the Cleveland fans didn't like it.

But it's the truth. It's the truth.

So you're not coming at it at Cleveland. You're just saying that they need faster feet so they can eat a little bit more.

Not faster feet, but in the playoffs, they didn't run any plays. If you watched that Boston Celtics Cavalier game, they didn't run any plays. They didn't run. They just... Okay, cool. Give me Garland. Give me Tajaron. We just go attack them.

Cribs.

Right. Without Porzini's, without Drew holiday. Caves are tough, but Boston is tough than a motherfucker.

And Boston is built for the playoffs. Well, it would be awesome if the Caves If they did something. It would be exciting if the cubs did something.

So Joel and B, they had discussion about him going to Germany and getting the Kobe Bryant treatment. Rest in peace, Kobe Bryant. Are you familiar with the Germany treatment?

What is it? Steroids?

Stem cells? It's stuff that they have in there. We call it a cocktail shot that they don't have here. I don't believe in steroids.

I think you do whatever you have to do for your body. If it's Embed, I'm a Sixers fan. I want Embed to be as healthy as possible. Give him a fucking horse's leg if you want. All right.

You're not opposed to whatever type of treatment works?

If If it's illegal, even better.

No, let's not get too wild.

I mean, if it's so illegal that they want to pay.

I didn't give my man Bobby 25 for my fucking Tylenol. I know.

Actually, my mom messaged me about that. She heard of We're talking about that on the pod. That's her expertise a little bit. She said, Trimadol is actually a quote unquote weak opioid. She doesn't love it as a medicine because it's a partial MU antagonist, as you know. Oh, that shit. But it is an opioid. It is.

Opioid means dopeoid means no games, motherfucker. That means belt ass.

But she said she loves the last podcast. She said you were extremely engaging.

Damn, I don't Engage on a regular basis?

No, she just said she was talking... She messaged me about the podcast. She said she disagreed with what I said about the opioid, and she said that you were engaging.

Well, my mom loves every podcast we do, Ron.

Well, she was talking about this one, specifically. She talked shit on me and gave you a compliment.

I call my mom right now. She's, Ron is the best thing that ever happened to you, son. Good. I'm glad we met him in our life. He's great.

That's obviously what my mom's saying, too. She's just saying, I don't know what an opioid is.

No, type shit. I'm just telling you what my I'm not going to say it.

That's hilarious.

Kevin Durant. Should he go back to OKC?

How many first rounders are you talking?

Free Agency. Trade? No, Trade.

How many first rounders?

They got a thousand of them motherfuckers over there.

How many would you give up?

A thousand?

No, bro. No. That would be dumb. You can't give up all of them. You give up three or four.

I'm giving up six first for KD, man. What is strong with you? Six? Yeah. What else? Who else? What's your name? Yeah, your ass out of here, too. No, bro. What's your number? Get his jersey. Get his ass out of here, too. Who the coach? Who the sister coach? Get his ass out of here, too. Who the fucking mascot? The gorilla motherfucker. Get his ass out of here, too. We trading that motherfucker, Kevin Durant.

I feel like you love players so much.

Who are you, buddy? You tape angles? Your name's Kevin, too? Package them up in a deal. Yeah, every motherfucking body.

The GM, the one who's like and catch his ass. You're in a deal, too.

Yeah, The gorilla who rides the motorcycle, the bike, too. Get us that. Yeah, we're trading everybody. Dance Squad, T-shirt. Come on, man. Vendors. Everybody got to go.

I understand what you're saying, but I think that you love the players, and you're never thinking way down the line in the future. You always wanted to give Clay the long extension for Golden State. You want to give Kyrie the long extension right here in Dallas. You want to give up everything for KD in the now right now. You're never thinking about the 14-year-old that you could be getting.

I wanted to give James Harden the max. People talk about him getting the max.

You're a very pro player.

If this was a contract, your James Harden would be getting the max.

Well, if I was the GM of the Suns, then I would love to see you as the GM of the Oklahoma City Thunder. Okay. Because you're going to give up that many first. Wait, I have a question for you. I have a question for you about NBA guys, about guys in the NBA. I'm here. I was watching a video of a bunch of dudes in the tunnel, and I'm not even going to say what team I'm thinking of. And I was just looking at them like, rau rauing into the camera. And I had a weird thought that came into my mind. And this is a question you only can answer. And the The question is, how many dudes in the NBA are actually lame as fuck?

I promise. Let's not go numbers. Let's go percentage.

Let's go percentage. What percentage of the NBA dudes are actually lame as fuck? 83. Because from How many?

83.

83? Yeah. That many?

Yeah.

I got that sense from the clip that I was watching, and I realized that as a fan, you automatically think someone's cool as fuck for being in the NBA. No. You're like, Oh, he's tall and he has designer clothes on and can order whatever he wants when he goes out to eat and he has a supermodel on his arm.

And then I'm sitting at dinner like, Okay, let me see how this motherfucker drink his wine. Let me see how this motherfucker use his cutlery. Why isn't his napkin on his lap? What was he raised? My name is Hill.

So you think that there's a higher percentage?

I got the max. They gave him the max. He only know how to use his cutlery. He only know how to put his fork back on the plate. He only know how to inhale his wine. When I mean inhale, I mean smell it first. Put it on the tip of your tongue first. Don't put it in the middle because when you put it in the middle and you do it all night, that's when you get dehydrated. You're going to have a little head thing when you wake up. No, it's supposed to go to the tongue first for the sweetness, down to the middle of the tongue for the bitter, down the throat. You're supposed to get all of it. So I look at everything wrong, and that gives me my answers right there. This motherfucker's lame. Not only lame, he's an L7.

Weenie?

Square. Damn, bro. It don't take me that long, too. It don't take me. And these are guys who got a lot of money. These are guys who don't have a lot of money. 83.

83% is lame. Lame. Wow. I don't think people would have ever- People look at me and call me different.

I'm be like, man, no, I ain't never heard nobody call me lame, though. No, not lame. Maybe they say he do too much or he think he is. Never lame, though.

Yeah. I just think that there's someone that just gave me a cringe I don't want to say.

Say. Well, fuck it what you can say. I can't say. And I'll let you know if he lame or not.

It was some dudes on the pistons, honestly. Say. I don't remember who it was. It was a bunch of them in the hallway.

Lame.

Them jumping up and down. It wasn't Kade. Maybe it was Tim Hardaway or something like that.

Tim Hardaway Jr. Yeah. Yeah, I look at him different.

Why?

I look at him as lame.

Why?

We and Mika Who knows Greece? Me, PG, Pat Patterson, Big Zoom. We're on our Greece trip.

Of course, a classic trip.

I see Tim Hardaway Jr. He go, Yeah, man. Trying to get out of Dallas. I go, Why? That'd be the worst thing you've ever done. Why are you trying to leave Dallas? Yeah, man, I just want the ball more. Luca got the ball more out. He What do you mean? Run your ass to the corner and shoot open threes all day. What do you mean? Are you fighting with Luca? Yeah, that's Luca. Yeah, man. I ain't feeling that shit. I said, Okay. I told PG, His ass is going to trading in the air. He go, What? Why? What happened? I tell him to get back to the crib. Wake up next morning, tell PG, You don't believe what this motherfucker just told me. He what? I don't know what for a tummy man. He should be getting the ball more. More than who? I guess Luca. He what? I mean, his ass is going to be trading in the year. In nine months, his ass is in Detroit. What the fuck is you thinking?

I guess my lame-dar is off the charts then. I guess I really sniff it out. Lame That's what he talking about.

But it's cool, though. It's cool. Ain't nothing wrong with being lame. Ain't nothing wrong with being lame.

Yeah, it's actually cool to be lame.

Ain't nothing wrong with being lame. You feel me? I got family members that's lame. You feel me? I got motherfuckers who ain't that popular in school. I love the deaf. That's pretty lame. Ain't nothing wrong with that, bro.

Yeah.

I'd rather be the lame motherfucking in school than the most popular motherfucker because it's usually statistically show.

If you're not playing sports- It'll be better later in life.

If you're not playing sports and you're the most popular, you're not going to be the most popular growing up.

Yeah, that's so interesting.

Who else did you see?

It was like a bunch of them jumping up. If someone could find a clip.

Give me one person. I just gave you. No, Give me one person from each team where you have, he might be lame. And let me give the lame... What is it when you have something on the ground, you're trying to find- The metal detector? Yeah, something like that. The lame detector. The lame detector. The L-D. Right.

That's about to take out the lame detector. All right, we'll jump right to the Indiana Pacers.

Oh, my God. Let's stay away from Indiana.

All I was going to go right to Tyrese Halliburton.

I don't think he's playing.

Okay.

Yeah. Not at all. I don't think he's playing. Not at all.

And then what about anybody else on the team?

Bal Turner. I don't think Halliburton is playing. No, hell no.

Okay. Let's jump to the Houston Rockets. Nobody. Why? Just because they're in Houston?

No, just because Yeah, I know that team. Nobody. No one jumps off to. No.

How about Memphis? Desmond Baine? No.

He's a killer.

He's a killer? Yeah. All right. That makes me happy to know because I would hate people calling him Desmond Lame or something like that. I feel like that would suck.

I ain't going to put that on him.

If you're a star of the team, can you still be lame? That's fuck.

It actually hurts the team.

When their star is lame.

That's fuck. It actually hurts the team because now you're thinking, I'm a role player, but I got this lame ass motherfucker, man. This motherfucker, man. He get all this money, man. What fuck is he talking about, I'm not playing with you, bro. You're just a fucking lame as hell.

Who are you talking about?

I don't know. I play on a lot of things.

A lame ass superstar.

He's lame. I'm talking about All the superstars are going to be looking at you, Pat, you're talking about me? Lame as hell.

That's a funny-ass conversation because people really don't think about it like that.

You have to. It's a lot of lame, rich motherfuckers.

Yeah. Right? Well, what did Gilly say about Rick Ross?

I don't know.

I don't think I could say it. Why?

Was the N-word was involved?

Yeah. N-word was involved? But he was like, yeah, money can't unlame a That's what I'm saying. Right.

Type shit. Right. And I don't have players on my team who didn't play at all. And they was the coolest motherfuckers I ever played with. Feel me?

Shout him out, bro.

Like Jason Terry. I know I got him on the end of his career, but he was great. Trevor Ariza. You don't hear his name a lot, but he was great. Ryan Anderson. To a lot of people, he might have been lame as hell, but to me, he was great.

That makes my heart sing. Yeah, for sure. Knowing that Ryan Anderson wasn't lame.

Yeah. And you see a motherfucker who got $80 million who walk on a plane with some tight-ass leather pants on. Are you looking at him like, What the lame ass, man? Take some shit off. A motherfucker tapping me on my shoulder like, You're You know what I mean? Look at his pants. Look at his pants. I'm like, You're lame as hell. Why are you not telling them yourself? That type of shit.

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Fresh round. Give me a good five to eight ask or pass. I got one for you. Ask or pass.

Keisha?

I don't know if this is a ask or pass.

Okay, hit me with it.

Back in the day, you used to go to games. You When you go to games, you used to see cheerleaders. Are you with the new... Oh, my goodness. That was God awful. Are you with the new generation of choreograph-free Dancers or are you old-school cheerleaders?

Old-school. Kick-line.

Pass. You give a pass.

Pass. Okay, say that. New-school cheerleaders ask.

Say last. I was agreeing with you. I just wanted to see where we at. I kicked it off.

You know what I mean? Like, kick-line type vibe cheerleaders. Not like them popping like a- Give me a U. Give me a G. Yeah, that type of shit.

Give me a L. Give me a Y. You can't sing that out of by, You ugly. Yeah, you ugly. Right. Yeah.

Jordan do not make it on the one and the three. Jordan's going to edit that shit on the one and the three. I know he is, bro.

So, yeah, we give them a pass. I like old-school cheerleaders. Pass.

All right. Cotton Candy, ask for a pass.

Cotton candy? Yeah. That's tough.

Why?

Because if I'm getting a cotton candy while it's already cotton candy, then I'm going to give it a pass. But if you give me a stick with no cotton candy and I have to watch while the cotton candy has been made and you put it on the stick, that shit's ass. It's a difference.

You have to give it just cotton candy, ass or pass. Not the flavor, the actual thing, cotton candy. Pass. Pass? Pass. I agree, man. Cotton Candy, I think, is great.

Okay, that's one. You got six more to go. That's where I'm ready.

Okay. The Orlando Magic in three years. Ask or pass. Will the Orlando Magic be getting a pass, or will they be hot ass in three years?

I give them a pass.

Really?

I I'll give them a pass. I got one for you.

Okay, hit me.

No, I don't have one.

Okay. The Atlanta Hawks since they made the trade this year. So Karras Levert and George Neang.

I mean, they just won last night, so that … Right.

That offsets the ask. Yeah.

But ask, man. Ain't nobody taking the focus here.

Which is a disservice to Trey Young.

Disservice, but yes.

But at the same time, George Neang, one of the winningest players in the last… What is it? The last 10 years, he's the winningest player? Yeah. Why are you smacking your lips? Oh, my God. The NBA media being negative about NBA superstars. Did you see that LeBron was talking about people asking him to be the face of the league? And he's like, You guys are only negative about us.

Okay, we go past ask. We go pause the ask and pass. Let's go face of the league. I like that you just brought that up.

Okay, face of the league.

And I'm pretty sure... Was that our topic that we spoke about last pod?

We talked about it with the Wemby pod.

And everyone stole it.

Yeah, and then they're asking them LeBron is talking about it.

It's wild. It's wild. They literally still our shit and don't give us credit for it, but it's cool. They know the vibes.

It just creates the conversation. I mean, next week, the conversation will be how many lames are in the NBA. You know what I mean? It's fine.

We do this shit. I seen an interesting take. Someone said that Jason Adam was the face of the league.

No.

Yeah, I agree.

I mean, he's great. He's a great NBA player, but he'll never be the face of the league. Yeah.

I think Anthony Edwards is the face of the league.

I think he had more of a chance to be the face of the league. You're thinking of it... You're too close to it, though, to say that Anthony Evers is the face of the league, because it's really LeBron or Steph. If you step away and look at it from the whole world.

I agree with that. I agree with that. I agree with that. I agree with that. But no LeBron, no Steph, no Katie, no James Hard, none of those guys. Anthony Evers is.

I think he could be going forward.

I think it's all about attitude, too.

He could be the best player in the league. I think that a long playoff run would change everything. But Luka could be the face of the league in three years, too.

Yeah.

As a Laker.

The face of the league. That's hard to sustain.

Of course. But that's why I think LeBron Ron and Steph have been the face of the league basically since Kobe. Do you think Joker can be the face of the League? Or do you think he's too ugly? Then I say that as an ugly guy.

I think the face of the league, if you're not the most dominant person, I think it has to deal with where you play also. Greek is dominant.

He's got a winning smile.

Dominant. You can easily put him face to the lead. For a little bit, he was leaning toward that way. I wouldn't say he's the face now.

If he had gotten another ship, he could be.

He got a chip.

I said if he had another one.

I know, but he got a chip.

I know, but I'm not saying that you hold it against him as far as his long term legacy. I'm saying that if he is multiple full-time, the champion of the league and people who aren't heavy NBA fans have to confront him in a different way because he's in the record books in a different way.

My thing I'm saying, I think face of the league has to come with way you play, small market.

So you think Milwaukee hurts him? Oklahoma City hurts. You have to be in a Miami, a New York, LA. I don't say hurt.

It doesn't help. Because you talk about, let's go down the faces of the League. Which you named, right? You named LeBron James, right? He played in Cleveland, he played in Miami. He played the Lakers, right? But he was Very dominant. Very dominant. You talk about Steph. Golden State was down, and then Steph came and they rose up. Now, let's go people before them, faces of the league. You talk about Kobe, the Lakers.

100%.

You talk about- Michael Jordan. Chicago.

Larry Bird.

Foster. Magic Johnson.

La, yeah.

When have we had someone that was from the face of the league that was in Indiana or some shit. Yeah, when?

Yeah, Roy Hibbert for that one year, but- No, we're not rolling.

We're not rolling. We're not rolling with that.

I'm joking.

But you see what I'm saying, though?

Yeah, I agree.

Right. I think face of the league is also what market you playing now?

Yeah. I think that LeBron was so big when he went back to Cleveland that it took him going to Miami, and then he was like, No, I'm actually going to fucking put Cleveland on the map Not myself.

You know what I'm saying? But that was him being dominant also. I'm saying if you're not the most dominant person, I don't know, top five in dominance, you're four. That's what I'm saying. Because Giannis is fucking dominant as fuck. But if he did that, if he played for the Knicks, he'd be face of the League.

Yeah.

So I think face of the League also- It's dependent on the market.

Depending on the market. Depending on where you land, how many people can watch you.

If you only got 15 motherfuckers that watch you, how the fuck are you the face of the league when this motherfucker got 3,015 people who watch him?

Yeah. You think Carmelo was ever the face of the League?

I think he was close when he was the Knicks.

He was very I think he was close. I think he was close when he was with the Knicks. He was very close.

I think he was close when he was with the Knicks.

Let's get back to ass or pass.

Okay, here we go.

Ass or pass, guarding a player, and then accidentally punching him in the dick.

I've never That's never happened to me.

You never seen it happen? Playing defense and hit like a little nut shot or something like that?

Yeah, my father did that to me once.

Yeah. Ass or pass?

That shit's ass. Okay. Yeah, that shit's ass.

In the NBA, it happened?

Yeah.

Who did it?

Chris Paul.

He not tapped you. Yeah.

What are you doing? What are you doing down there? At least hit a nigga in the chest or something. What are you doing down there? Say less.

The Achilles heel.

Where are you doing? Is he here?

I'm not quite sure if I can access through all the...

Is Chester here?

Sorry, guys.

Is he here? What's the guy who had out I don't know seven different motherfuckers. What's the movie? What the fuck had seven different personalities.

The master in disguise, that view.

I'm going to Scarpetta for dinner tonight.

Scarpetta? Really?

I got the wifey out here with me, though. Check it out, This while, I go for pay for some shit. You know me, I'm a digital guy. What Drake said, I don't carry cash anymore because the money is digital. So ever since he said that, I stopped carrying cash. I'm just digital. And now that I know that that digital shit don't always work because I go to small place. Now, yeah, I'm Digital. Click. We don't accept that here. You have the card? Oh, shit.

Exactly.

Type shit. Okay, cool. I digital. Digital don't work. I'm trying to pay, I don't know, some headphones and shit.

You got to take the cash.

This doesn't work. Why if you come out? Black card. Damn.

Damn. She's playing the Black card. Okay.

Type shit.

Good for her. Yeah. Type shit. Scarpetta looks absolutely incredible. Let me look at this menu just to see what they're working with. You know about Scarpetta? They got a little I don't know shit about it. A trick.

What's that? The trick is that Scarpetta, you guys got to go. Scarpetta, they have the fine dining, right? Pasta's, Pomodoro pasta's phenomenal. But then you hear a little...

They got the club under there?

You go, Where's that sound coming from? God goes, When you guys are finished eating from here, we have a bar My dad's nightclub downstairs.

Really? So you and wife, you're going to have the time of your life down there.

Go through the kitchen, go downstairs, catch vibe. Yeah.

Scalops, ass or pass?

When I was young and I didn't have a lot of money, I gave them for sure an ass. But now that I'm older and I have an acquired taste and my taste buds have changed, I give it a pass.

Was it the texture that you didn't like about it?

I grabbed them with a fork and it slipped off the fork. Now I'm on table with scalp in hand. Now I have to use napkin, clean off hand, all type of wild shit.

Yeah, you have to cut the thin slice off the scalp.

Yeah. But now that I'm older, I I appreciate it.

Yeah, I like a scalp. Scalops were one of my gateway drugs into seafood. Scalop, I started slow with. Man, look at this fucking dessert. Oh, my God. Look at that dessert. Dessert, ask or pass.

Dessert is a pass.

Really? The sugar?

Yeah.

Interesting. Yeah.

I'm good with a good meal, but then a little devil's dessert. Yeah. I got to put a little Got to have a little bit of something devilish. Maybe it's the devil's juice, which is the wine of too much. Maybe it's the devil's dessert.

A devil's dessert does sound fantastic. Two S's because you always want two desserts Right?

Type shit.

Fuck, yeah. Well, dude, I hope you have a blast down to Scarpetta tonight. Hold on, I think we have some more. Hold on. I know we do. I don't know if you wanted more ask or pass.

You said A, I gave you eight. This is Rachel from the Knicks. I was told that you were taking Katz Corsac for the night.

Scarpetta will wait.

Damn, Kat. It's Rachel from the Knicks. I was told that you are taking Cat's courtside for the night. I will meet you downstairs at 4: 00 PM and walk you in. Do you have an ETA for arrival? What time is the game?

It's probably at 7: 00, bro.

7: 30?

It's across the street, though.

7: 30? Get that feeling out of here. Damn, I got a courtside. Love, gang. I need a belt. I need to take a belt with me to the game. I got to take your belt, bro. You're going to watch the pod? Listen, if you all watch the pod tomorrow, I'm going to be courtside with belt in my hand. Waving this money. This wrong belt. You all seen it right off his waist, right off that white ass. You hear me? Shut That's not the wrong. Look at that. That's fire.

It's about to be a classic. Tell your wife to get dressed, bro. I just did.

Get your ass dressed. I heard it, fuck up. I ain't going to tell you twice.

She better have been getting the I got done.

Yeah, team to turn away. Okay.

Not too much.

Hey, man, shout out to Cat. Man, shout out to Carl Anthony Towns, dog. It's been my dog since Minnesota, man. That's been my motherfucking dog, man. This man gave up his dad's courtside to have me sit courtside at the game today, man. Real shit. Shout out to Cat. Real one. Obviously. N-i-g-g-a. Yeah. I don't like to put the H with the G. I like to keep it all Gs. However you have to do it. How you put it? I don't put it. Oh, that's a trick question.

Love, guy. Love, brother.