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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush Limbaugh Show podcast. Welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Michael Knowles filling in. And it is a great honor to be here behind the golden EIB microphone and especially great honor because I get to speak with you today. It is Friday and I think you know what that means.

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You know, from the left coast at our satellite studios in Los Angeles, it's open line Friday. You know, I really want to thank Rush and the whole team here. It is just so great to be here. It's a dream come true. I just couldn't be happier. But there is one downside. I realize there is just one downside, which is doing this show today is definitely going to put me on the list. You know the list.

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If you haven't heard about the list, you will soon find out about the list when you find yourself on it. That is the list that Democrats are putting together of all of their political enemies who supported President Trump. And make no mistake, this is happening right now. You might be saying, Michael, you sound like some crazy conspiracy theorist. You, Michael, you sound like you have tinfoil hat on. I'm not. I actually sound like a guy who is reading the Twitter feed of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and reading the Twitter feed of CNN's Jake Tapper and reading that Twitter feed of the Trump Accountability Project.

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How scary does that sound? We've been hearing a lot of talk recently about how we need to come together. We need to unify. We need harmony, we need healing. And by the way, we also need to concede a presidential election before the legal process plays out. That's the that's the undercurrent to all. But they say, look, we want to just come together and have healing. And yet when you listen closely to what they're saying, I don't think healing is what the left wants.

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Definitely not for you and me. In case you missed it, AOK tweeted out this week, quote, Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted tweets, writings, photos in the future. Why? What complicity with what? We voted for a Republican and we had some conservative government for four years now, hopefully will get eight years of it. What is that complicity, what is the threat here, what are they going to do to us and not just AOC, you might say, OK, AOC does something.

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She's so crazy, she's so fringe. Never mind that the Dancy's Tom Perez says that she's the future of the Democratic Party. Ignore that for a second. Maybe she's just a kind of crazy person. Well, then you look at Jake Tapper.

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Jake Tapper always presents himself as the reasonable liberal journalist. You know, his center left. He is just calling it like it is. He's the only honest guy left in broadcast. Well, here's what Jake Tapper had to say. He said, quote, I truly sympathize with those dealing with losing. It's not easy. But at a certain point, one has to think not only about what's best for the nation, peaceful transfer of power, but how many future employers might see your character defined during adversity.

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What he's saying is if you continue to support President Donald Trump, we're going to ruin your life. We're going to ruin your livelihood. We're going to kick you out of your job. We're going to make sure that you never get a job again.

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But he's just concerned for all of us. Look, he understands he is truly sympathetic for those who are dealing with losing. Well, I have to tell you something. I truly sympathize that some Democrats right now want to rush through the legal process and not have any recounts and not have any examinations of the many irregularities that went on in Pennsylvania and in Arizona and in Georgia and in Wisconsin. I totally have sympathy for that.

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But we do have a legal process in this country for selecting presidents, and we are not going to let leftist journalists on cable news bully us into submission, bully us into giving up. Before that process played out, I don't remember was Jake Tapper pressuring Democrats to give up the 2000 election, which dragged on for, what, 38 days? Somehow, I don't know. Maybe it slipped my memory, but I don't remember that from CNN or Jake Tapper or anybody else.

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And it's not just those two. It's not just AOC. It's not just CNN. Do you remember Mr. Egg McMuffin? Mr. his legal name, I believe, is Evan McMullin. He was supposed to be the spoiler candidate in 2016. He was going to be the conservative, you see, because you had the Democrat, Hillary Clinton, and you had this crazy figure who's he's probably not conservative and he's going to overthrow the country and he's an authoritarian fascist, Donald Trump.

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And then you had the good, respectable, honorable conservative candidate, Mr. Egg McMuffin. Then it turned out he wasn't all that conservative, was he? He no, I mean, what did he worked he worked for the CIA. So he's a he's a career spook. That OK, that's the first warning. Then he worked on the Hill, OK? He worked for the Republicans on the Hill. That can be a good thing. That can be a terrible thing.

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And then he tried to undermine the Republican nominee for president. And now now he is mimicking AOC. And Jake Tapper, Mr. McMuffin tweets out, quote, We should keep and publish a list of everyone who assists Trump's frivolous and dangerous attacks on the election. Name and shame forever. The the CIA's conservative alternative in 2016 is the most radical and vindictive person coming out now trying to get us to concede this election. All of this is part of something that is named the the Orwellian title, the Trump Accountability Project, the headline.

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You can go to this website. I don't encourage you to, but you can go to the Trump Accountability Project. The headline says, Remember what they did? What did they do? They got a peace deal between the Arab states and Israel. All remember what they did. Remember what they did. They lowered taxes. Remember what they did. They dealt very well with the coronavirus.

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Remember what they did? They renegotiated trade deals. No, that's not what they're talking about. The Trump Accountability Project says we must never forget those who furthered the Trump agenda. We should welcome in our fellow Americans with whom we differ politically. But you no buts negate sentences. So there is the big but. But those who took a paycheck from the Trump administration should not profit from their efforts to tear our democracy apart. You notice that when people go to the polls and they vote for Democrats, that is a wonderful exercise of democracy.

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When the people go to the polls and they vote for Republicans, that is undermining democracy. And actually, the only way to support democracy is to overturn that democratic vote, which is what the Democrats tried to do for four years. The accountability project goes on. The world should never forget those who, when faced with a decision, chose to put their money, their time and their reputations behind separating children from their families. You know, that policy that goes back to the Clinton administration in the alleged cages that go back to the Obama administration?

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That's what Trump did, apparently, who encouraged racism and anti-Semitism. I'll remind you, there's a town in Israel named after Donald Trump, he is, I suppose, the least effective anti-Semite in human history and they say negligently causing the unnecessary loss of life and economic devastation from our country's failed response to the covid-19 pandemic, a claim based on nothing. We should not allow the following groups of people to profit from their experience.

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And here are the three groups they name, those who elected him, those who staffed his government and those who funded him, namely anybody who in any way supported Donald Trump. These guys, and it's bipartisan. Don't forget, they've got the alleged conservative candidate for 2016. Some Republicans, the never Trump and Democrats are trying to ruin all of our lives. This is not, by the way, just at the national political level. This goes all the way down through the institutions.

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This goes all the way down, I suppose, especially to college campuses. Bates College in Maine, Bates College in Maine. Maybe you haven't heard of it. I'm sure the mainstream media haven't reported on this.

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At Bates College in Maine, the the school decided to do a series about students voting in the 2012 election. It was very simple. The school post photos of various student leaders, different organizations, and they're all Democrats. You know, that's sort of what you expect on a college campus. But the administration made one huge mistake. They posted a photo of a Republican. That's right.

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The head of the College Republicans went up on the Web site. This led to protests. This led to rallies. This led to mayhem and chaos. The liberal students demanded that the administration take down this photo. Do you know who attended the rally? The president of the college, the president of the college, showed up with the students to protest his own administration. This would be what we call the inmates running the asylum. I believe the school officials deleted the post.

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They apologized for highlighting this conservative student. They will never have a Republican up there again, this is the future that we're looking at, this presidential election. I know it's crazy that I even have to repeat it. It has not been decided. We do not have a certified winner yet. We do not have a president elect. They're going to try to battle this out in Georgia so that they can deprive Republicans of control, possibly the Senate. This has a lot of meaning, the left is trying to fool you right now, they're trying to tell you, oh, no big deal can see, that's fine.

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We'll be totally moderate. They don't sound very moderate to me. We've got to take a quick break. Don't go anywhere.

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I'm Michael Knowles, sitting in for Rush Limbaugh on the EIB Network. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Michael Knowles filling in and today is Open Line Friday. What a great day to be on the show. Many thanks to Rush for letting me sit in the telephone number here is one 800 two eight two two eight eight two. That number again, 800 to eight two. I want to get to your calls. Let's turn now to Sam. Hi, Michael. Hello. Michael, me. Hello. Hello.

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Contested that the Democrats are trying. Hello. Well, the. Hey, Sam, are you on the air yet? Can you hear me? I can't. I can now hear you. And that's very good because I know you've interrupted my own doomsday scenario and we've had enough of that over the past two weeks. So I need I need a little levity. Sam, what do you want to talk about?

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Yeah, I'd like to talk I'd like to make a quick point about unscrupulous media. And as you know, it's the anniversary of Kristallnacht this week. And as an Orthodox Jew, it's it's high time, you know, to quote the great Tengku there that we stopped playing patty cakes with the media, particularly because this yesterday, Christiane Amanpour said that that in that the rise of fascism is happening and Trump is the similar rise of fascism, it's time we stop with what?

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Trampling the graves and the memories of the six million Jews we lost and the Holocaust for political grandstanding. I'm sorry, but it's it's time that it's time we fight back against this. Maybe we bring back truth or revolt over at the daily wire. I don't know what needs to happen. I trust your I trust your sagely wisdom for that. And I'm of Rush Limbaugh, but I don't know what your thoughts are. But it's high time we fight back.

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Scary.

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That's going on over in Arizona, which is right now. They're still trying to tabulate the votes in Arizona. Biden's lead has been shrinking. The Arizona secretary of state is supposed to be certifying those results. And yet I just pulled up a tweet from the Arizona secretary of state. Her name is Katie Hobbs. Turns out that a few years ago, she referred to President Trump's supporters as neo-Nazis. And she didn't say that. Just some of President Trump supporters are neo-Nazis.

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She didn't say that it's a minority. She said that Trump's base. Or neo-Nazis. The problem with this is not just the hyperbole, it's not just that it's so disrespectful to Jews in particular. Of course, you're justified to cheat, aren't you?

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Of course, if you're a poll worker, maybe you would feel justified in cheating on a ballot. If you're running an election center in Philadelphia, for instance, you would feel justified in not allowing Republican poll watchers to show up if you are certifying election results in Arizona. I don't know. I'm not accusing her of anything. I'm just pointing out she referred to the Trump base as neo-Nazis. Now, anybody with two brain cells to rub together would know probably there aren't 71 or 72 million neo-Nazis in the United States.

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Right. I don't think this is a country teeming with these Hitlerian people. But if the left does believe that, that is a way that they could justify their own actions. We've been hearing about a lot of irregularities coming out of this election. That is a soft term for fraud. Now, is it enough to throw the election? I'm not so sure. We'll find out there's going to be a legal process playing out, we're going to be speaking to Rudy Giuliani later, President Trump's lawyer and former mayor of New York.

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We're going to be speaking to Ted Cruz, who is really taking this fight to the Democrats in the Senate. We're going to see how the legal process will play out. The one thing I do know, though, is this kind of rhetoric which you don't really see from the right to the left. We don't accuse them of being communists. Well, I guess when they when they admit that they're communists, we do accuse them of that. When they admit that they're socialists, we do.

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We do accuse them of that. But we don't we don't malign them in a way that they malign us and that could easily justify cheating. I don't want you to be fooled about the actual stakes of this election here the other day, Joe Manchin, who's the, I guess, relatively conservative Democrat from West Virginia, he's certainly more moderate than, say, an AOC. He has to be. Otherwise he wouldn't get elected there. Joe Manchin went on FOX News and he came out and he said, listen, I will vote against the radical legislation that the Democrats are proposing.

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I will vote against ending the filibuster. I will vote against adding Puerto Rico in Washington, D.C., as states giving Democrats a permanent majority.

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I will vote against Medicare for. All right. Any promises? And that sounds terrific. Don't fall for it, folks. What he's really saying is don't push back against the attempts to claim this election before it's over, don't fight back on the runoffs in Georgia, is runoffs in Georgia could easily decide the election. Just it's OK. Let the Republicans lose their Senate majority. Let Donald Trump lose the election. I promise you, we won't do anything too bad.

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Well, I promise you something very different. If the Democrats do erase the Republican majority, if Joe Biden does ascend to the presidency, you are going to see a slew of radical legislation. Now, are you going to see the radical legislation? Because Joe Biden himself is some radical. No, Joe Biden is nothing that has been the hallmark of his political career. Joe Biden wakes up in the morning. He likes his index finger. He puts it up in the air and he waits to see which way the wind blows.

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Now, for the 1970s and 80s, the wind was blowing a little bit to the right, and so he positioned himself as a relatively moderate candidate. But then the 2000s rolled around 2010. Now we're in 2020, all of a sudden the future of the Democratic Party, the DNC tells us, is socialism. And so he is running to the left. You saw it most notably on abortion. He had been relatively conservative for a Democrat on a bill that he has shifted to the left.

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The Democrats have told us what they're going to do. They want the green new deal. The green new deal is what a 93 trillion dollar plan was proposed by AOC. But it's not just AOC. The potential vice president of the United States, Kamala Harris, was a Senate co-sponsor of that bill. You really think that Joe Biden, doddering, crooked Joe Biden, he is going to be the one to say, stop? No, we won't have that radical legislation.

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You really think Joe Manchin is going to stand up to the rest of the Senate Democrats? He's going to stand up to the radical Democrats in the House. He's going to stand up to the bureaucracy in the media and the activist? In no way. No way, Buster. They're trying to pull one over on you. And it has to do specifically with this Georgia election. We've got a major runoff going on now. So some good news, you know, amid all of this awful news.

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The good news is that Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said on Wednesday that the state will conduct a by hand recount in each county in Georgia. They're specifically going to take an RLJ and what an umbrella is, is a risk limiting audit. So it's a fuller type of recount. They're not just going to go through the computer systems and say, OK, this is how it's going to work. This is going to be full. But there's some bad news coming.

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There's some worries down the line. We've got to take a quick break. We will get to it in just a second. Michael Knowles, civilian for The Rush Limbaugh Show.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Michael Knowles filling in. It is open line Friday, but I believe the nefarious forces of liberalism are trying to stop us from having our open line Friday. Apologies to Sam in the last segment. We try to speak with them. But, you know, I am out here on the left coast today. I am apart from Southern Command over in sunny south Florida. And somewhere the wires got crossed. You could blame Friday the 13th.

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You could blame the blob, the deep state, some awful Democratic operatives or something. But for whatever reason, we are working on getting that technical problem fixed. In the meantime, I do have America's mayor on the line, Rudy Giuliani, greatest mayor in the history of New York City and also attorney to President Trump. A lot of us are paying very, very close attention to what's going on right now in all of the contested states for the presidential election, most notably the big kahuna, Pennsylvania.

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Nobody is paying more attention to that than Mayor Giuliani. Mayor Giuliani, thank you so much for coming on the program.

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Well, thank you. My pleasure.

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So, Mr. Mayor, let's get right to it. What can you share with us today with regard to what is happening in Pennsylvania? I know that people are getting a lot of information and some of it's true, some of it's false, and a lot of it is being suppressed. So what are we seeing on the ground there?

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Well, here's here's what's going on. You are right. A lot is being suppressed. We filed a lawsuit the other day. It's supported by over 50 witnesses. Or with affidavits under oath, so it's based on very, very solid evidence that people are ready to testify to. And just to simplify, the major thrust of the lawsuit is that Republican inspectors. We're not allowed to inspect any of the mail in ballots. Contrary to the law of Pennsylvania and contrary to the law of absentee ballots, which has existed forever, I mean, I've been in many elections where you count absentee ballots, that you'll have a Republican and a Democrat observe the ballot.

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In this particular case, it was really important to have an observer because we were going to go to like. A million, two million mail in ballots when usually we have 100000 or 200000, but they made it especially important that they be observed because the minute that you separate the ballot from the envelope, it could no longer be checked. The only assistance you get, the only chance you get to check if it's a valid vote by a valid living person who's registered, is when you have the envelope and both sides get to see it.

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And then we agree it's a valid vote. Once you take it out of the envelope and you put it in the vote pile. It's an anonymous private vote, right. There's no way to reconnect. So what the Democrats did very shrewdly, they they excluded 47 of our inspectors in Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, which is a crooked Democratic city that cheats in every election. And they even when we went to court, they wouldn't let us get close enough to see if they did the same thing in Pittsburgh.

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Not the whole day. They did it just the first day. So in Pennsylvania, there are 600000 ballots that are unlawful. They were submitted without any inspection as to authenticity and they are deemed therefore unlawful. And the state legislature gets to decide the winner, not ABC or CBS, and those votes should be deducted. And when you deduct those votes, Trump wins by pretty close to what he actually won by, which is about 300000 votes, that is a huge number when we're you know, usually when we talk about invalidating votes, you know, you're talking about very, very few, hundreds or thousands.

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But I think what's important and the media keeps skipping over in this election is we are in unprecedented territory in this country. We have never had widespread unsolicited mail in ballots. We've had absentee ballots that you can request. And there is a little more security around that. But you have this very vulnerable new system. And then, as you say, Republican poll watchers not being permitted to look at the polls. And that's how you can you can wind up with these huge numbers of votes that ought to be deemed invalid.

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So the question, Mr. Mayor, will they be deemed invalid?

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Well, that's the question for the court. But what we are going to be able to do is to show didn't just happen in Pennsylvania. We have a almost the same lawsuit in Michigan, two of them, one of the state court, one of the federal court in which in Michigan, we now we're up to about 300000 ballots that were unlawful in Michigan. Additionally, it's a crime to exclude an inspector. So the people who did it committed crimes.

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And we have where we have two witnesses I'm sorry, three witnesses with affidavits that at four o'clock in the morning, 100000 ballots were brought in after everyone thought that all mail ballots had been counted, 100000 ballots were brought in the back door. It was counted furiously because they didn't want Trump to be ahead in the morning. So Trump began at the beginning of the night with a 300000 vote lead, and by the morning he was losing to Biden and most of those votes were to look were counted after four thirty in the morning.

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And our witnesses say they were all for Biden and to the extent they could see those ballots. Those ballots only had Biden's name on it, no down ballot voting, which indicates they were done in, you know, in the furiously fast way, because what happened, Michael, is I believe it was always part of the Democratic plan to have phony mail in ballots to make up for whatever lead Trump had on Election Day, which is why Hillary was saying, you know, don't concede.

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And Biden was saying he wasn't going to concede, but they never imagined that he was going to be ahead in Pennsylvania by 800000 votes and they never imagined he'd be ahead in Michigan by 300000. So they had to do a lot of printing of not printing, but checking off of ballots that night. And in the case of Michigan, they got really sloppy by bringing in these 300000 votes, they thought they had cleared the room, but they're remain behind two Republican inspectors and an employee and an employee of the Dominion Company who has basically decided that she can't stand all the cheating that she saw and therefore had to testify about.

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Well, I'd like to ask you, Mr. Mayor, about Dominion in particular, because I know that there are a lot of questions about this. Software in the mainstream media are working overtime to say there's no question whatsoever. It's no big deal. It's perfectly fair. It's perfectly safe. You're saying that employees at Dominion are contradicting that media narrative.

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Dominion has a terrible record. It was turned down by the state of Texas because of its incompetent performance in the past. But if you ever did a background check on it, you would never use Dominion, really used as a software from a company called Ma'am Smartmatic. Smartmatic Smartmatic is a company that was founded in 2003, 2004 by several Venezuelans who were close to you, Hugo Chavez. And its original history was how to cheat in Venezuela and then Argentina.

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Smartmatic was run by a close associate of George Soros for quite some time. And when you're having your votes counted by Dominion, they're actually being counted by Smartmatic to which they subcontract it and they send the votes outside the United States for counted. Now, why we're having American votes counted outside the country by a company that's owned by two southeastern. And it's connected to George Soros, but we've got to be out of our minds. Of course, it doesn't care.

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Yes, it doesn't make any sense in that way, it makes us feel sometimes when this election can't be concluded every way makes us feel like we're living in Venezuela or some banana republic. Very quickly, Mr. Mayor, I know you've spoken with the president. The president has has not been, you know, to public. He's been sending tweets but has not been holding rallies or press conferences or things like that recently. What is his frame of mind today?

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But mine is actually I talked to him twice this morning, his frame of mind is vintage Donald Trump.

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He has he has all this evidence. Much of it has been censored and suppressed by a press that's gone into like, oh, I probably used to be for the Communist Party or. Right. Like the news service in China is for the Chinese Communist Party since the Hunter Biden hard drive appeared, which proves that the Bidens are, you know, 30 year crooks, they they print no nukes. I mean, we're just shut out. None of the things I said to you appear in any any of the newspapers that are controlled by the Democrat Party.

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Yeah. So we have to get this information out on social media, on a few of the conservative networks like Ohayon and Newsmax and then on shows like this, you know, talk radio. I mean, I've been I've been on more local radio stations than I have in my whole life in the last three weeks.

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Well, I'm very glad, Mr. Mayor, that you would be able to bring this information, which is being suppressed to the largest talk radio show in the country, because we're not getting that information. One place that you can get this kind of information now, and I would highly recommend it, would be Mayor Giuliani's podcast, Common Sense. I was so pleased, Mr. Mayor, when I saw that you launched this project. We have got to take a break now.

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But, Mr. Mayor, thank you so much for coming on. Please keep up the fight and we'll look forward to hearing more Rush and my prayers, OK?

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Absolutely will do that.

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Mr. Mayor, thank you so much. I'm Michael Knowles, filling in for Rush Limbaugh on the EIB Network. We got to take a quick break, but do not go anywhere.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Michael Knowles filling in and it is open line Friday. I do not care what the technical gods that command this earth want to do. We are going to get your calls. And I don't care how many technical glitches they try to they try to foist on us. The number is one 800 to eight to to eighty eight to 800 to eight to two eight eight to. Let's turn now to Susan in Florida.

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Susan, welcome to the program. Thank you. Yes, hi, I'm Susan from Citrus County, Florida, and I just want to let you know that I worked for many, many years with the board of elections here in this state. And I was in Broward County when the Chad issue came up and when they started talking about mail in ballots several months ago, I came up with a theory only based on what my experience was, which was a good experience in the new county that I'm in.

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They could have easily taken an empty ballot. Blank ballot marked the minor races, but left the presidential race blank, folded up those ballots, put them in an envelope, postmarked that envelope and put all of those those ballots into a room, a basement or wherever for convenience sake in the event that they needed to put some. Choices in for Mr. Biden. And then when November 3rd came and everybody started voting and those votes started coming in for Trump, they said, Oh, we're in trouble.

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Go get those ballots that we didn't mark the presidency. And they opened those ballots and then went ahead and filled in just the president selection, which they because there's no other explanation why 100000 or even 200000 or even 10000 ballots would come in simply for one candidate.

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Well, this is the problem, Susan.

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This is the problem with the widespread unsolicited mail in ballots is we don't know what happened. We don't we know that this particular system, which has never been tried before in America, is rife for abuse. I remember this was right before the election. The attorney general of Pennsylvania called the election for Biden. This was before Election Day. He said, I have no doubt that when all the ballots are counted, Joe Biden is going to win. And I thought, well, perhaps you don't have any doubt because maybe those ballots are going to just keep on coming in until it works for you.

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We have historically had ballot stuffing in America. We have historically had some election fraud, most notably, by the way, in the case of President Lyndon Johnson, a lot of people don't remember this 1948. Lyndon Johnson was in a he was in a Senate race and he was running against Coke Stevenson and there were a million ballots cast, a million ballots. And Lyndon Johnson won by guess how many, 87 votes. Gosh, that is a slim margin.

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Well, how did he manage that? Decades later, it came out that there were a number of very crooked counties in Texas. There was one county in particular that found a ballot box, box 13, that was just stuffed full of ballots.

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For who? For Lyndon Johnson. These ballots were written in the same pen they were written in. The same handwriting was so obvious that it was a fraud. The case actually went up to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court did not want to rule on the state election. And Lyndon Johnson got his seat and obviously he ended up becoming vice president. Then it became president. And in 1990, Robert Caro, the biographer, came up with basically irrefutable proof that this happened.

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And, OK, Lyndon Johnson got caught. He was already dead. Lyndon Johnson got caught. He'd already served in the Senate. He'd already transformed our country as president. Too little, too late. We know these things happened. He actually Lyndon Johnson joked about this with Franklin Roosevelt because Lyndon Johnson, this guy had been stealing elections since college. He he actually he stole elections in college. He then when he was a staffer on the Hill, he he was in something called the little Congress.

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This was just a club for staffers. He stole the presidency of the little Congress. And some of his colleagues there said, could you imagine how crazy, how sociopathic you would have to be to steal the presidency of the little cat Congress? So in 1941, he runs for Senate and he loses not because he didn't cheat, but because his opponent cheated better than he did. Well, he was not going to get caught again. And Franklin Roosevelt said to him Franklin Roosevelt was then the president.

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He said, Lyndon, you forgot to sit on the ballot box. You did everything right. Who knows if you stuffed it or you didn't, but you forgot to sit on it. You forgot to keep a hold of the count after the election. Well, folks, it would seem that some people forgot to sit on the ballot box this time because a lot of ballots have been coming in very late. And as Mayor Giuliani pointed out, we were just speaking with with Rudy Giuliani.

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He said for some reason, all these all these Biden ballots keep coming in in the middle of the night in some places, by the way, after we were told that the counting had stopped, you have the GOP chairman in Georgia claiming now and showing now that counting was supposed to stop at night. And yet for some reason, there were ballots being counted after that. No pollwatchers, no oversight. We don't know what the extent of this is.

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That's why there are lawsuits right now. That's why this is going to work its way up through the courts. The courts may very well decide this election. But, Susan, I think your experience is is absolutely right in in the 2000 election. And just remember that 2000 election, there was one state that was contested, Bush v. Gore. Now we've got Bush v. Gore times three times five. I don't think we're going to give up this election just yet.

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That that was 38 days until Al Gore conceded for just one state with much less evidence of fraud. This is going to work its way up through the courts, much more to get to many more of your calls to get to do not go anywhere.

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I'm Michael Noles, filling in for the Rush Limbaugh program on the EIB Network. Do not touch the dial. Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program, I'm Michael Knowles filling in. It is a beautiful 240 second day since we were told to stop the spread 204. We were told 15 days to stop the spread. Now it's 242 days. And a Joe Biden covid adviser says the U.S. just needs to lock down for four to six weeks and then they'll control the pandemic and revive the economy.

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Seems to me I've heard that song before, folks.

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Andrew Cuomo saying now you can't have more than 10 people at your Thanksgiving table. That's no good. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Michael Knowles, filling in such a great privilege to be here behind the golden EIB microphone, especially on Open Line Friday.

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You know, earlier in the show, we know from the Left Coast at our satellite studios in Los Angeles, it's open line. Friday it is. They can't stop us. The technical gods tried to stop open line Friday, but they are no match for the EIB Network. We will be taking your calls. That number is 800 to eight to two eight eight to call in. I want to hear from you. There is so much misinformation, disinformation, suppression of information going on right now.

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We spoke earlier with Mayor Rudy Giuliani about the Trump legal strategy. Will be speaking a little bit later with my friend, Senator Ted Cruz, one of the few elected Republicans with a spine these days, who is actually standing up to this ridiculous narrative from the media who are trying to end the presidential election. Now let's turn to Jay from Columbia, South Carolina. Jay, welcome to the program.

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Michael, thanks for standing in. I want to know how it is that Chris Crib's, who's the director of the Cyber Security Agency, can just outright dismiss Hammer and Operation Score Card as a hoax and a bunch of nonsense when Sydney Powell and General Thomas McInerney have already named it software developer Dennis Montgomery, who will be testifying on President Trump's behalf.

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Well, without getting too into the weeds on exactly what these kind of various theories on the software are specifically because frankly, even I think I don't think anybody knows specifically, you know, every detail about them. The allegation here is that there is software that was used in the voting systems that has illegitimately turned votes that that went to President Trump, to Joe Biden, and Sidney Powell is Mike Flynn's attorney. How does the bureaucracy come out and attack other conservative lawyers and conservative actors and even people who have apparently worked on software?

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How do they come out and attack them without evidence? Well, pretty simple.

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They've been doing it for four years. I love there is this great irony that happened in 20/20, which is we've just heard from Democrats for four years that Donald Trump is an illegitimate Manchurian Candidate, an asset of the Kremlin and the KGB. Donald Trump, the guy we've all known for 40 years, he is a secret Russian spy who was installed because of widespread election fraud in 2016.

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Oh, and also, it's not possible for there to be election fraud in the 2016 election was hacked. It's it's completely illegitimate because Russia apparently bought about 100000 dollars worth of Facebook ads so that you can't count 2016. But also it's not possible to hack an election. That seems like a contradiction to me. Well, surely, though, Michael, the bureaucratic agencies, the deep state, the blob, they would never try to interfere in an election, right?

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Oh, except we know for a fact that they did. And as you mentioned, Sydney Powell, they framed Mike Flynn, the incoming national security adviser. When President Trump won, the blob was very shocked by this. No, he wasn't supposed to win. All the pollsters told us 97, 99 percent chance Hillary wins, Trump wins. The Blob is shocked. And they particularly went after Mike Flynn as the incoming national security adviser. We now know that he was set up.

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We now know that there were a lot of lies, false predicates for these kinds of investigations. We know that the lies and false predicates go all the way back to the campaign trail when the Obama administration's bureaucratic agencies were spying on President Trump. This amounted to an attempted coup d'etat by the bureaucracy against the president. And now we're to be told, don't look into any computer software. I don't know if the computer software did anything. What do I know?

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I'm not a computer expert. Obviously not. We couldn't even get the open line Friday line to work during the first hour. But here's what I do know. The bureaucracy is not beyond suspicion. The left has been clamoring about election fraud for now for years, and we are going to look into this and I don't care what some bureaucrat at DHS says about it. He now, by the way, Chris Krebs is now saying that he expects to be fired from the White House.

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I hope he is.

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I sure hope he is. My one regret from the Trump the first Trump administration. Hopefully there will be a second one. But my one regret from the first Trump administration is that he didn't fire more bureaucrats. I wish he could have gone in and cleaned house. It's very difficult to do. Just to give you a sense of the size and scope of the federal bureaucracy, just the Department of Homeland Security. Do you know how many employees they have?

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The Department of Homeland Security, one of the newest agencies in the bureaucracy, they have over 220000 employees, almost a quarter of a million employees just working for one agency as part of this deep blob swamp administrative state, whatever you want to call it. And so it's very difficult to do that. He might get fired. That's perfectly fine. Republicans conservatives should not go squishy. They should maintain their spines. I know this spines are in short supply in Washington, D.C., especially among conservatives, but they've got to stand strong.

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Thank you very much for calling in. Let's turn to Wes in Omaha, Nebraska. West, welcome to the program.

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Well, everyone forgets, what was Hillary's worth to buy? Reminds me. Fight, fight, fight, and, you know, the courts will still it. That's right. That's right.

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Her advice to him and it's funny because the Democrats realized they had to walk this back before the election, but she said on a on a TV program, she said. Joe Biden should not concede the election under any circumstances. Now, you might I'm thinking of all the circumstances that could occur. One of them could be that President Trump obviously wins the election outright. Still, Hillary Clinton says do not concede the election under any circumstances. So forgive us if we think that there might be some shenanigans in this election.

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Then we find out that Philadelphia wouldn't allow Republican poll watchers to come in. Then we find out that there are irregularities, technical glitches, quote unquote, that send thousands of votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden in Michigan. We find lots of ballots being counted illegally without pollwatchers in the middle of the night. Somehow they go overwhelmingly for Joe Biden down in Georgia. Forgive us. I think absolutely you're right.

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That is Hillary Clinton thought that in a moment of honesty, which there are few and far between in her life, she she gave out the Democratic strategy. And I think right now what President Trump is saying is we're not going to give this up without a fight. There is a legal process. The Democrats want to undermine that legal process. The media want to undermine that legal process. We're not going to we are going to follow it until the end.

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Great question. Great comment, rather. Let's turn to Richard in York County, Pennsylvania. Very, very important state. All eyes in America on Pennsylvania right now. Richard, you're on the air.

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Hey, good. Thanks for taking my call. So my thoughts on this is I think I speak for a lot of people. You know, I was raised to pledge allegiance to the flag, and now I just feel like everything that I learned as a kid growing up about what the United States is about. What we need to do and how we need to act is going is being thrown away. So I'm going to ask a rhetorical question here. If Trump should not be able to pull this off, who are we supposed to listen to?

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How are we supposed to listen to Mr. Biden or President Trump?

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Well, I would recommend, of course, continuing to listen to President Trump's thoughts on things. I would also recommend listening to Rush Limbaugh, by the way. That's who I listen to for a lot of my political thoughts. But I think your question is more specific than that. You're saying who will be the legitimate president if if Joe Biden does ascend to the presidency? Well, we have a legal process. And it's funny because now we're invoking that term because we want to attack the narrative, the media narrative, and we want to defend our position of pursuing these legal actions.

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But the legal process is even broader than that. The states will certify the election winners, but not CNN will not do that. The AP will not do that. It will be the states. There are various mechanisms within the states to certify the election winners. If there is fraud, if there's a lot of evidence of fraud, sometimes the state legislators can step in. There is a case in which the states don't do their job, and this election is thrown into even greater chaos and the Constitution has a mechanism for that.

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There is a possibility that Joe Biden will ascend to the presidency and it might be legitimately and it might be with illegitimate votes. And we might actually never know that. I mentioned a little earlier in the program that stuffing the ballot box is a tried and true American tradition. We've had presidents do that before. Lyndon Johnson admitted to it. Franklin Roosevelt joked about it. So it's entirely possible that that will happen then, dare I say? We will form a resistance by then.

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If that eventuality were to occur, I'm sure we would be told the resistance is awful. It's terrible. It's unpatriotic. We can't do it. One thing I would like to point out, though, is in years past, Republicans and Democrats disagreed over particular issues taxes, abortion, immigration, foreign wars, whatever.

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Something does seem to have changed, though. It changed with the Colin Kaepernick protests. It changed with the recent BLM and Antifa riots and looting, which is now we're not both parties are not hugging the American flag and arguing over how to make our country better. We're arguing over whether we have a good country at all.

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All of the people burning the flags this summer and today were Joe Biden supporters. They supported Biden over Trump. I'm not saying all Biden supporters burned the flag, but rhetorically, a great many of them have. They proposed the 619 project. They support this idea that America is rotten to the core, hopelessly rotten. Andrew Cuomo in New York said America was never great, was never great to counter the Make America Great Again line of the Republicans. President Trump literally hugging a flag at many of his campaign rallies.

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We are fighting over love of country itself. And I think that's why you're seeing a realignment in in voting patterns. You know, the the conservative coalition is is changing a lot. You're getting a lot more of racial and ethnic minorities. You're getting more working class voters. You're getting it because people are fed up with anti-Americanism. Whatever happens in the election, I suppose it's possible. It's eminently possible, in fact, that Joe Biden could be the president.

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And then I think a lot of people will be saying, long live Joe Biden, because they don't want Kamala Harris to become the president. But I think it could put conservatives in a in a strong position in 2024. But now is not the time to give up that election. There is still a process that will play out. There is still a fight to be had and there are still at least a handful of Republicans who have maintained their spines.

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We've got to take a quick break right now.

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I'm Michael Knowles, filling in for the Rush Limbaugh program on the EIB Network. We will be right back.

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We were we were on the lines, on the phone lines, and we talk every election about how this is the most important election in our lifetime. And sometimes people think, oh, that's not really true. It's just something people say to get out the vote. I think it is true. And I think it's going to continue to be true. I think it'll be true the next election. I think it'll be true that the election after that, assuming hopefully that we still have elections and we still have electoral viability at the national level.

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Why is that? Because whereas in the past we fought over worthy political issues, you know, abortion, the definition of marriage would be another social issue. Taxes, immigration, very important issue. Where is in the past we fought over those issues. Now we're fighting over the country itself. Is it a good country? Is it a bad country? Do we like the country? Do we not like the country? Do we want to help the country?

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Do we want to burn the country to the ground as all those peaceful protesters did this summer? We've been talking about this for a number of years now, ever since at least Barack Obama said that he wanted to fundamentally transform America because, of course, you don't want to fundamentally transform things that you love. People got very upset when when we would question left wingers love of country, but they just told it to us themselves, said we want to fundamentally transform it.

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When I put my head on my pillow at night and I say goodnight to my wife, sweet little Alisa, I don't I don't whisper her sweet little nothings and say, I love you, honey. I can't wait to fundamentally transform you. I want you to be utterly unrecognizable. I don't want to be able to tell who you are in the morning. I wouldn't say I would not be allowed to sleep in that bed that night. And of course, you you don't want to fundamentally transform things that you love.

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You've seen protests of the American flag. You've seen burning of the American flag in American cities.

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And just now we've got the latest piece of evidence that this this Left-Right divide has really become a divide between pro America and anti America from the U.N. Human Rights Council, the most ironically named body in the entire world, U.N. Human Rights Council is where we get scolded by the likes of Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, some of the worst regimes on Earth. We pay for most of it, by the way. We pay for the lion's share.

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We invite these people to come to New York on beautiful property that I think would make a fine Trump luxury condominium. I guess that hasn't happened yet. But someday, if I if I ever ascend to the heights of the United Nations, we are bulldozing that building and building beautiful waterfront luxury Trump property there. In the meantime, though, you have these awful actors, our enemies around the world coming in and lecturing the United States. Could you imagine the audacity of China, which kills its own people, which imprisons millions of its own people, which forced sterilization forces?

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Abortion, enslaves many of its own people. They come in and they they attack the United States. The reason I bring it up is they now attack the United States using the Democrats talking points.

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I kid you, not you just had this past week an emissary from China on the U.N. Human Rights Council accusing the United States of bigotry, of racism, of of a scourge of racist police officers slaughtering innocent men on the basis of their race. And then you'll have Democrats parroting that talking point. Then you'll have our enemies around the world parroting that talking point as well. That's a little bit different just in arguing over a political issue, because there you're really fighting for love of country itself, for loyalty to country itself.

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It is open line Friday, by the way, if you didn't remember that the number is 800 to eight to two eight eight two. Let's turn now to Shelby in Richland, Washington. Shelby, you are on the air. Hi there. So I had a few questions, I'll try to be quick, I'm Dominion Software. I was wondering who's reviewing the ballots that created errors or accounting and who holds them accountable? Well, you know, the Dominion software I've been I've been looking into I've been looking at all the information they have on their website and they can put whatever kind of parameters they want when they're putting in those ballots and that they can have it put aside to have to manually look at that ballot that creates the errors.

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So who's holding that accountable to making sure that that the software on that particular device is not being tampered with by the person using it? Well, one part is a lot.

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Sure. One issue with Dominion is that right now the entire mainstream media dominion is a software used in these voting machines. The entire mainstream media are coming out and saying there's no problem with dominion, no irregularities whatsoever, MoveOn, MoveOn, nothing to see here. But we just spoke to Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who's President Trump's attorney, who says there are big problems with Dominion and there are employees of Dominion who say that there are big problems with Dominion. And so they're looking into that right now.

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To the broader question of who is certifying these these results, who is looking at these issues right now? We're getting a hand recount in Georgia. I suppose that's a good thing, a full a full audit.

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But in Arizona, I'll just use Arizona as an example. Arizona Secretary of State Katy Hobbs, in 2017, she forgot to delete her tweets. She called President Trump supporters, neo-Nazis, not just a handful of crazy fringe supporters. No, she said that President Trump's base is neo-Nazis. Do we think that woman is going to be fair when when certifying these results? I don't think so. I don't think so at all. And because if I were in her position, let's say I, I honestly believe there was a Nazi takeover going on in the United States.

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Adolf Hitler himself were in power. I would probably be compelled to maybe switch a few ballots. I don't know. I'm not accusing her of doing that. I'm just saying that the framework that she has set up here is one that is fundamentally unfair. And it is one that whether or not the results of the election turn out for Biden or they turn out for Trump or whether or not they're legitimate or illegitimate, we probably can't trust it too much.

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We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Michael Knowles, filling in very honored and privileged to be here behind the Golden EIB microphone on Open Line Friday. The telephone number is 800 two eight two two eight eight two. It's a very important that we that we remain able to speak to one another before the Democrats compile all these lists that they are threatening and ship us all off to whatever leftist gulag they're no doubt building right now. Let's turn right now to Edward in my very own city of Los Angeles, California.

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Edward, welcome to the program. Hi, Michael.

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Thanks for having me. Good job. Yeah, I'm joining you on the list today, I guess. Lots of accountability who have dissenting opinions. You you're worried, I suspect, living in a very blue town, in a very blue state run by our very own governor, Gavin Newsom Illini, as the vindictive politics ramp up, are you do you work in the industry? Are you in show business?

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I, I am. And a lot of times I just sort of you it's funny. You have to be silent when when people start talking. And because I never I'll never agree, but like, I'll be silent at times and then. Yeah. You know, if your silence goes on too long you get the suspicious looks. Right. Right, right.

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That is the way that you can tell a Hollywood conservative it's not because they're wearing the Maggert necessarily. It's because they're not wearing the Berney hat. It's because they're not they're not eagerly engaging in this conversation. But the kind of left wing conversation in Hollywood and the demand for agreement that is everywhere. I mean, that pervades the whole town. Right? Well, yeah, and I think it's one of the things that actually concerns me about, like right now what's going on, because I feel like we're barreling towards another lockdown.

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Right. And the media's yelling it hard to us. Right. And, you know, let's look at this. There hasn't been an inauguration. There hasn't been a certification of the election. And, you know, lockdowns fundamentally haven't worked in any nation that wasn't willing to kill its citizens. So can we just have a conversation of how crazy this is and not just like, you know, like, why are we doing this? You know, is this actually necessary?

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I don't know that it is. And I think that that just saying that it's a dangerous thought. How dare you?

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I can't believe that you would contradict the science, don't you? Don't you know the science which early on in the virus epidemic told us do not wear masks and never wear masks? You're a bad person if you wear masks. Dr. Fauci told us that the surgeon general told us that and then they flipped it pretty quickly and they said, no, actually, now you have to wear masks. That which is not forbidden is compulsory. Then they told us we're going to lock down for 15 days.

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That was that was actually 242 days ago that they told us this. And you're right, we are barreling toward another lockdown, particularly if Joe Biden is named president. His his top covid adviser is said, we need to lock down the whole country for four to six weeks. We've been told by Governor Cuomo in New York the worst governor in terms of his handling of coronavirus. We've been told that you can't have more than 10 people at Thanksgiving dinner.

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So if you've got a big Catholic family, too bad, pick your least favorite kid and send them to the doghouse because he's not allowed at the Thanksgiving table. This does appear to be happening. Joe Biden's talked about a nationwide Marzook mandate. And so what's going to happen is, are all the businesses in L.A. going to going to go out of business?

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Well, I think that right now we're in permanent lockdown in California. So without lack of there's no real rules. So people are just making up their own rules. And you don't ask because if you ask, you're just going to get told. No, you know, but I mean, here's the thing, Michael. These people are not stupid people. They're smart people. And I think sometimes we get caught up in thinking how could they rather than asking why would they?

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And what is really going on? You know, you have to ask because you can look at the data. You see that you can lock down, and then you come out and it just sparks up again. It's wacky. Right. Right. So at that point, why are we doing this? Why are we willing to shatter our economy rather than just protecting our vulnerable, which we should do? Right. But like, why are we willing to shatter our economy knowing that every great socialist revolution came on the heels of great poverty and great strides?

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Right. So the only way to turn our nation is to shatter our economy, reduce us to our knees. And that is an interesting point of view.

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Never let a crisis go to waste is the line that the Democrats often use. It's funny because I think the left genuinely doesn't understand the conservative opposition to the lockdown's and even to the mandatory mask's.

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You know, when you're alone in your home, in your car, all these sorts of things, they think that we don't want to lock down and we don't want to wear the masks because we think we can never get the virus when actually I think it's the opposite. We don't want to lock down our whole country, shut down the economy and wear masks everywhere because we know that we're going to live with the virus. We're probably going to get the virus.

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The virus is very contagious. There was a study came out, I think it was a over a month or even two months ago from the public health experts, the World Health Organization saying that something like 10 percent of the globe has already contracted this virus. The virus is only, what, eleven months old or so. So it's obviously moving very quickly. There was another survey out of Chicago showed one in five Chicagoans had contracted the virus. So 20 percent, it spread very quickly over there.

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You know, we don't we don't lock down over a particularly bad flu epidemics. We don't lock down over other diseases that were very worrisome. West Nile, swine flu, those sorts of things. You know, you can't you can't eliminate germs. You can't eliminate suffering and disease as much as those utopians would like us to. But we are told in the name of science that we absolutely have to do that. And the science they're talking about, by the way, I don't think it's the science even of viruses.

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I think what they're interested in is, to use Marx's words, the science of history. They know that history has an end point. It's their progressive utopia. They know how it works, that that's why they're so infuriated at conservatives who are standing in the way of progress. The right side of history, the arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice, all these kinds of things. And we we conservatives, in the phrase of William F.

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Buckley Jr. stand athwart history, yelling, stop. We said we'd all like this history. We don't want to go there. And it's clear that they're exploiting this epidemic for political purposes. And they're helped along, by the way, Edward, by a group of people that I like to call court jester conservatives. This is a group of people who they sort of pretend to be conservative. They put up a little bit of a fight, but really their job is to lay down and lose.

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You saw a couple of these court jester conservatives come up the other day when the media called the election for Joe Biden. I'm not going. To name any of these people, I don't want to be so rude, I'll point out some of them are senators from the state of Utah, former governors of Massachusetts, inventors of Obamacare, former Republican presidential nominees. But I'm not going to name them. I think that would be be very rude. Some some of these people have exclamation points at the end of their name.

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These are the court jester conservatives who will they'll put up a little bit of a fight. They offer a limp opposition to the dominant liberal regime, which they thereby legitimize, by the way, through their meek opposition. And then that regime will occasionally give them plaudits, will occasionally give them a strange new respect once these sort of conservatives have fully given up all of their power and that is their role.

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And then there are conservatives who have a spine, you know, led, by the way, in the media by Rush Limbaugh. And he's been doing it for decades. A lot of other people don't want to do that. We don't know what's going to happen in the presidential election. Joe Biden, he may ascend to the presidency in the end here or the courts may find and disqualify enough illegal votes to re-elect President Trump. Mayor Giuliani seems confident that we spoke to him earlier.

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We're going to speak a little later to Senator Ted Cruz, who is another one of these politicians who has a spine. You know, he's actually pushing back and standing up against this this media and left wing onslaught. We don't yet know we don't yet know what is going to happen. What we do know, however, is that the conservatives who the morning after the election when the media were trying to throw it to Biden, the conservatives who are clamoring for President Trump to concede, never wanted him to win in the first place.

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They were happy to help this along. And regardless of any debate about science and should you have your ten relatives over for Thanksgiving or when should you wear the mask? What we do know is that there is a strong political campaign that is on right now, and that political campaign is is meant to fundamentally transform the country. The potential vice president of the United States, Kamala Harris, was a Senate co-sponsor of the Green New Deal. Green New Deal is the most radical piece of legislation that has ever been proposed in American history.

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The Green New Deal is not just about the environment. The Green New Deal is about radically redistributing wealth, destroying the American energy sector, rebuilding every building in the country because they all have to be energy compliant. Could you imagine knocking down and rebuilding every every single edifice in the country within 10 years? It's about a radical redistribution of wealth on the basis of race and ethnicity. It's about a Medicare for all platform. What does that have to do with the environment?

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I don't know. Absolutely nothing. This is a time that the left is going to try to seize opportunity in chaos. And I think we've got to tune out a lot of that noise and focus in on what they're really doing. It's a little bit of a shell game. They're trying to distract us with one of their hands and then they're trying to get their agenda through with the other one. We've got to take a quick break. I'm Michael Knowles, filling in for the Rush Limbaugh program on the EIB Network.

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Don't go anywhere. We will be right back.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Michael Knowles filling in and today is Open Line Friday. You know, the number is one 800 two eight two two eight eight two. That is 800 to eight two two eight eight two.

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We, of course, still do not know the results of the election despite the media's contention. Otherwise, I sort of feel like it's Groundhog Day. Every day I wake up. It's Election Day. Oh, welcome. It's Election Day again. Good morning. I wonder when we will get out of this. I suppose the courts probably will decide it, though. There are lots of legal challenges going on all around the country. Speaking of all around the country, let's talk to some of you from around the country.

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Jeff from Houston, Texas, you are on the air.

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Yes. Thank you for taking my call. It's a privilege. My pleasure. A quick statement. This is the end game to basically render the conservative, you know, God fearing, USA loving voice in this country. The I mean, you know, based on the evidence that we're seeing from Hillary to, you know, the Russia gate, Ukraine impeachment, FBI corruption, everything across the board, you know, it just seems like in four years there's a lot of damage that could be done to where, you know, what is the end game here and when does it end?

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And for them, I think it's in this four year period. So I just want to get your feedback on that, see what you think, because I don't know what you look at measures wise to take in a situation like that for us to say, you know, we have to win in the courts. But if the Senate is lost and they have all three branches of the government, we're in a very difficult situation.

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That is exactly the goal here. The goal of the left is to render the right completely irrelevant, relegate them to the dustbin of history, to use the Marxist Marxist terminology. But this is not particular to this election. And it's not just me sort of lobbing bombs at the left. The left has told us this. The progressive left has told us this for. Over 100 years now, this is explicitly their plan. You can see this in the writing of Woodrow Wilson, the first really prominent left progressive President Woodrow Wilson wrote in his essays about progressivism that the American constitution was no longer relevant.

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It was no longer suitable for our country. And he used a scientific analogy. Wilson said that back in the olden days when the framers and founders wrote our Constitution, that was the time that the world was governed by Isaac Newton Newton's laws, a fixed universe where various powers would be balanced against one another.

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And you could have this sort of static government of checks and balances that the Constitution sets up. And what Wilson says is that is no longer useful in any way because we're not living in the age of Newton. We're living in the age of Darwin and in the age of Darwin. There's no such thing as a fixed human nature. There is no such thing as eternal fixed laws of the universe. It's all just kind of evolving, you know. And so what we need to do is harness that power, have a much more powerful and energetic government, and then have that government push us beyond what we once thought were the bounds of human nature and the bounds of politics into this wonderful progressive utopia.

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And the way that Woodrow Wilson tried to establish this was through the creation of the administrative state. And this is a term that really hasn't been very popular until the past four years, because President Trump's election was a direct challenge to the administrative state. We call it the deep state. We call it the blob. We call it the permanent government with the progressives did about 100 years ago was they said what we need to do is take all of the political decisions that you and I get to decide for ourselves.

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We've got to take them out of the public square and we've got to send them over to experts wearing lab coats who are very, very smart. And they all have great credentials from good schools. And they're going to make our decisions for us. Listen to science, listen to the experts. Don't think for yourself. Don't you dare try to push back. That was the plan. There's an irony because we're living in a time where everything is politicized except for politics.

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The shoes that I buy are politicized. The coffee that I drink is politicized. But the political decisions, for instance, should we shut down the economy, for instance? Can I can I have my friends and family over for Thanksgiving? Those are now considered not political questions. Those are scientific questions. And only the exalted Dr. Fauci is allowed to decide them for us. And if you dare raise your voice, you will be punished. You will you will be thrown out of your job.

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You will be put on a an enemy list. It is it is not considered legitimate for a conservative to win an election in this system. And that is what the left told us in 2016. That is why even though President Trump clearly won that election, it was not legitimate. It had to be the Russians, it had to be the Macedonians, the click forms, the Facebook ads, whatever. It couldn't be real. And now, of course, that the left believes that Joe Biden has won this election, well, all of a sudden, there's no such thing as fraud because democracy is working as they believe democracy should work, namely, they should always win, we should always lose.

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And they're becoming much more honest about it. You know, we knock Woodrow Wilson. He's the cause of a great many problems in American history. At least the guy was honest. And then for about, I don't know, 100 years or so, American leftists were not honest. They tried to hide their designs.

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They said, oh, you know, just it's important just to vote. Doesn't matter who you vote for, it's important to vote. Well, now we're being told, no, you've got to vote for the left. And if you don't vote for the left, things are not going to go very well for you. I was saying earlier in the show it is such an honor to be able to fill in for Rush here behind the golden EIB microphone.

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And the only downside is now I think I'm going to be elected like class president of the gulags or something. I'm absolutely going to find myself on that list. And I think I think you will, too. I mean, that's what AOC is saying. That's what Jake Tapper is saying. That's what that former presidential candidate, Mr. Egg McMuffin, Evan Evan McMullen, is saying that is that is a permanent plan to get rid of the right. And so the stakes are very high and we better not give up yet.

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I've got to take a quick break. I'm Michael Knowles, filling in for the Rush Limbaugh program. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Michael Knowles filling in. Lots of news happening. A lot of it has to do with the presidential election. But I do want to give you a book burning update. You know, these we have to update every so often when the left bans another book or another idea. This one comes in the case of transgenderism. No longer is it acceptable to say, for instance, I respect people's rights to identify with whatever gender they want, just don't do it to the children.

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Now, we are finding out that if you do not support transgender ideology as applied to little children, you are a bigot. You will be removed from polite society. Where does come out from Target that my friend Abigail Shriver's book. Excellent book, by the way. Irreversible damage. The transgender. Raise seducing our daughters is being banned from Target because it is trans phobic, a book that outlines its and it's totally factual. It is. It's not a polemic in any way.

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Abigail Schreier supports adults.

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Right to have gender surgery, identifies whatever gender they want, just says maybe we should wait for these kids. Kids are below the age of consent. They can't make these life changing decisions. That book is now considered trans phobic.

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I guess you better get the book now, folks, because it's it's going away. We hear a lot about unity and healing and coming together. If Joe Biden is named president, this is what they're talking about, folks. It's not just if you're the most extreme right winger, you're going to be kicked out of society. It is that if you hold as simple of you, as modest of you, that maybe we shouldn't trans the kids, maybe we should let the kids make their own decisions when they become adults.

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If you even hold that view, you are going to be kicked out of polite society. Get ready, folks.

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We've got to take a quick break. I'm Michael Knowles, filling in for Rush Limbaugh on the EIB Network. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I am Michael Knowles filling in. I am so honored to be here behind the Golden EIB microphone. I am, you might say, a long listener and First-Time Caller. So it is so great to be here. And if I could have picked any day to be sitting in for Rush, it would be today because today is Friday. And you know what that means.

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You know, from the Left Coast at our satellite studios in Los Angeles, it's open line Friday. It is open line Friday. The telephone number is one 800 two eight two two eight eight two. You already know that. But if you had forgotten one 800 two eight two two eight eight to look forward to taking your calls, you know, in the last segment we were talking about the books that the left is burning right now. They want to burn any sort of book that is not politically correct, being banned from retail stores.

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So there are some books that the left wants to burn. There are some books that the left is desperate to push. And I I couldn't possibly forget to read this book review on the show today. This is the book review of Barack Obama's third memoir. The memoir is over 700 pages long. His third book about his favorite topic, namely himself, The New York Times, is just giddy about this book. I can't I can't read the whole thing because the review is almost as long as the book itself.

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But I will read you just a little bit from the first paragraph.

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A Promised Land by Barack Obama is the first sentence I kid you not Barack Obama is as fine a writer as they come. OK, fake news right off the top.

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Again, I can't believe another word of this review, but that's sort of expected from the New York Times say Barack Obama is as fine a writer as they come. It is not merely that this book avoids being ponderous as might be expected, or as is this book review even forgiven of a hefty memoir, but that it is nearly always pleasurable to read sentence by sentence. The prose, gorgeous in places, the detail granular and vivid. I feel almost voyeuristic reading this review.

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I feel like I'm peering into this reviewer's bedroom window. Such pleasure is she receiving from reading Barack Obama's book, she goes on From Southeast Asia to a forgotten school in South Carolina. Obama evokes the sense of place with a light but sure hand. Oh gosh, hubba hubba. This is the first of two volumes. And it starts early in his life charting his initial political campaigns and ends with a meeting in Kentucky, where he is introduced to the SEAL team involved in the Abbottabad raid that killed Osama bin Laden, reminding us, of course, of Barack Obama's great achievement there of of calling in for that raid.

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His focus is more political than personal.

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But when he does write about his family, it is with a beauty close to nostalgia, wriggling Malia into her first ballet tights. I can't take anymore I can't take anymore of this review, though. It does go on for a very, very long time. We are returning to the messianic age in the mainstream media. That's what they think. I mean, they think Joe Biden is going to be the president. It's all going to be well and good.

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We are now going to come back and relive those glory days from 2008 to 2016. I mention this not just merely to attack the media, which is like shooting fish in a barrel. I don't we don't need to do that, not even to go after Obama. So much is to point out something that we have been told now for the past four years that Donald Trump is a narcissist. Donald Trump is so prideful that these conservatives were.

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So we've fallen into a cult to follow President Trump.

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President Trump is downright humble compared to Barack Obama, not just because Obama wrote the three man.

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Worse about himself and not even because of these personal attributes, look, a healthy ego is a job requirement for the presidency, for any political office, for that matter. So I don't begrudge President Trump the towers with his name on it. And frankly, I don't even begrudge Barack Obama his silly and ridiculous memoirs. What I'm talking about is a humility that pertains to politics. Because the left believes Obama especially, that there is no limit to politics. Elect me and the sea levels will lower, the earth will heal.

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We are the ones we have been waiting for hope.

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A theological virtue is present in me. I am the embodiment of hope. There is nothing we can't accomplish. Progress will lead us to a transformation of human nature. We will eliminate disease. That's what they're telling us. With the coronavirus, there won't be germs anymore because of their wonderful messianic plans. And then you've got President Trump and the conservative view of politics, which is defined by its humility. Trump comes up and he doesn't start giving these messianic speeches as though he is some some prophet or some savior from the Bible.

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He comes up and he says, yeah, we're getting bad trade deals. I'm going to fix them. Yeah. We're not handling this aspect of the economy. Well, we're going to fix it. Yeah, man, this immigration system, it's so out of whack. It's we're taking in millions of people a year. The American people don't don't want that. No, because you can't assimilate that many people. It's lowering wages. It's hurting jobs.

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So, yeah, we're going to fix the immigration system, too. That's it. He frankly, he speaks like a plumber, like he's he's plumbing. He's fixing the pipes of our republic, which is what we need because we got really leaky pipes. You heard about leaky pipes in that Georgia vote counting center. I'm a little skeptical of those, but I am not skeptical that, ah, the plumbing of our republic does need help. That is a humble view of things, OK?

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And it doesn't matter how boastful he can be about crowd sizes, because that's all fun. I mean, he's a great he's a great entertainer. But when he's talking about the limits of politics, he and conservatives generally realize you're not going to change human nature, you're not going to end poverty, you're not going to end war forever. You can you can have good policies that diminish war. Actually, Trump has a much better record on that than Barack Obama.

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But you're not going to end these things forever. And that is how I think we are approaching politics. And it is why we can laugh.

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We can laugh so heartily at ridiculous reviews of Barack Obama's memoir in The New York Times. And they just don't get it. And if they do ascend to the presidency this time, we are going to get a whole lot more of this kind of ridiculous fluff. Let's turn to the phones. You know, the number 888 to 288 to. Let's turn to Sean in Buffalo, New York. Sean, you're on the air. Hi, how are you doing today?

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I'm doing very well. How can I help you? Well, I'm a Buffalo, New Yorker, and I'm staying right here on the air. Trump won flat out. I don't see Biden getting. 75 million votes, it just doesn't add up. Now, I wanted to mention I mentioned to your screener, I'm hearing there's so many pundits and other people, this kind of surrender is that kind of language. Well, if Trump doesn't win or will fight on in my statement is this how are we going to get another conservative and let's call what a conservative is a conservative is a pro American?

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Well, American labor pro constitution person who didn't get into well, that's most of conservatives didn't get into politics to get rich and wealthy or can be bought off, which Trump cannot be bought off. Right. How are we going to get someone in like that again if the people who pulled this off are running the government from top to bottom, which they're doing, they're doing right now. How is this going to get anyone else in?

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Yeah, it's a great point on a couple of levels, actually, because, one, you've got the bureaucratic issue. We were talking about that earlier, that we do have the blob. You know, we do have the administrative state that that makes so many laws for us, even even beyond the election. Doesn't matter who wins the election, they keep they keep regulating to to various degrees. And then you've got this issue where the Democrats are promising us if they get elected and they can destroy the Republican Senate majority, that they're going to end the filibuster.

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They're going to vote to add new states to the union and Puerto Rico and even more implausibly, Washington, D.C.. The whole point of Washington, D.C. is that it is not a state you don't want your federal government to be in a state. That's why they took parts of Virginia. Maryland made the federal district. Well, well, the Democrats want to turn that into a state. Why? Because it will give them two more senators. We'll give them more votes.

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Same thing going on in Puerto Rico. And you could have a situation there where Republicans at the national level are not able to win again. They would not be able to win the presidency. That is not a an implausible outcome. If the Democrats do succeed in doing that and adding those two new states, it's almost guaranteed. So you've got that problem. I think actually your your question is such an important flip side to what we've been talking about.

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Conservatives understand the limits of politics. It's not perfect. We're not going to heal the earth or whatever. We're not going to save and redeem mankind through some ballot box or something. You can do good things and then you hopefully and you try to win. But we understand there are limits to politics.

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The flip side of that is don't just give up.

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Don't just roll over like you're describing these court jester conservatives who put up limp opposition to the liberal regime and then their job basically is just to lose. No, don't do that. Courage is a virtue as well. It's the prerequisite requisite for all of the other virtues. And so we're we're in a world in which maybe Joe Biden is named president. Maybe he isn't. We don't know. We're not going to know for for a little time now. And so we're going to fight it out.

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We're not going to concede right away. We can accept the limits of politics that, you know, we can't get everything perfect right all the time and we can live to fight another day. But there are real stakes here, folks, and those real stakes could really threaten conservatives, especially at the national level. Got to take a quick break.

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I'm Michael Knowles, sitting in for Rush Limbaugh on the EIB Network. We will be right back.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Michael Knowles, filling in. Great pleasure to be here behind the Golden EIB microphone. We've been talking a lot about ballot security. And when we get to topics like the riots and the mayhem, we're talking about personal security, something we should talk about as home security. Your home, every home should be safe and secure. Rush introduced a whole lot of us to simply safe the home security company that's made home security affordable for everyone.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program, I'm Michael Knowles filling in. I'm seeing a story right now just popped up on the daily wire. And I should mention, you know, I am here from The Daily Wire. I have my own show at The Daily Wire called The Michael Noles Show. Rush has talent on loan from God. I am on loan from the Daily Wire. And Daily Wire is a conservative outlet that is now seeking to replace the establishment cable news media.

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You know, all those all those people that we can no longer count on. Unfortunately, at some some outlets, The Daily Wire, it's me. It's Ben Shapiro. It's Andrew Klavan. It's Matt Walsh. It's Jeremy Boring. A lot of writers and we know a lot a lot of daily wire listeners are actually listening right now. And there are so many of them in the Rush Limbaugh audience as well. And, you know, we've just taken so much of our Q and inspiration from Rush.

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So I would also recommend, you know, heading on over there. You can get us a daily Wired.com. You can also head on over and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. All the shows have really creative titles like, you know, the Michael Noll Show or the Brooklyn Show or The Ben Shapiro Show. So you can head on over there and on the website you can get news. This headline just comes up. Family income rose drastically under Trump, meaning his economy was better than Obama's.

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How many times have you heard from the establishment mainstream media that Trump's economy was terrible? Obama's economy was great. Oh, he lagged. He didn't have the job growth. And unbelievably, this is the most implausible of all. They blame Trump for the coronavirus lockdown, which they clamored for. They're the ones promising to lock down Joe Biden's at covid adviser is now saying we need four to six weeks of a total lockdown. President Trump has been calling to reopen the country for months now, but we now have analysis coming out that shows that President Trump's economic policies really were better than Barack Obama's.

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Karl Smith, former VP at the Tax Foundation and assistant professor of economics at USC, published this also in Bloomberg to to just analyze what happened, what happened? A real median household income in 2016, real median household income was 62000, 898 dollars, which is just about 250 bucks over its level in 1999. Over the next three years of the Trump administration, it grew almost six thousand bucks. That is a huge number. And it explains, by the way, how during the midst of the lockdown in the pandemic and everything just last month, 56 percent of U.S. voters said they were still better off today than they were four years ago.

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Even amid a pandemic, you're not going to see that story. And the mainstream media, it's important to remember it, though, because they're already trying to rewrite history because they think that they've got this election in the bag. You know, it's open line Friday, that number, 800 to eight to two eight eight two. Let's turn now to Dave in Ruston, Louisiana. Dave, you're on the air.

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Thanks for taking my call. My pleasure. One thing he's not telling on loan from God, he's a gift from God. Right? Right. For my call. We are missing a boat here. We need to change the narrative. They think they won. We need a Trump parade. We need a Trump flotilla. We need every Trump supporter in the country to descend upon Washington, D.C. in numbers that have never been seen before. We need CNN and MSNBC to see something that their audiences have never seen.

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Five million, five million Trump shows, but saying, God bless you, stop this deal. We see what's going on. Why would we ever believe the courts are going to give us justice now after what we've seen for the last 12 years? I'm telling you, we're desperate out here. Organize this. If you and Rush and Tucker and and Sean and Mark Levine set a date and it has to be a Saturday because, hey, we work for a living.

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They're going to see what real patriotism is. They're going to see five million people come in and they're not going to tear down the statue. They're going to worship it. We're going to go to the National Cathedral, not to burn it, but to kneel there and pray to God. When we go to the Washington Memorial, we praise him. We're not going to write graffiti. And when we leave, there won't be a cigarette left there if I have to personally pick every one of them up.

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Right.

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Right.

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You're making such an important point, Dave. This is such an important point. I'm sitting in Los Angeles right now. I'm looking out the window of the studio. It's boarded up. The town is boarded up and it's been boarded up since Election Day. Why is Los Angeles boarded up? It's a pretty left wing town where they boarded up because they were afraid that roving marauding gangs of conservatives were going to riot and loot and commit arson. You'd have Brooks Brothers clad conservatives sort of smashing in.

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Gucci stores and stealing handbags? No, I don't think so. They were convinced that left wingers that Democrats would loot and riot if the election were called for President Trump. And obviously the election hasn't been called for anybody yet, so that looting and rioting hasn't happened. The left has gone out and they've been encouraged to do it by elected Democrats. Maxine Waters went out. This was over a year ago at this point, I think, and said you need to go out and mob in public.

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You've got to push back on them. You've got to tell conservatives that they're not welcome here, go to their homes where their children sleep and physically threaten them. So the left, what they want to do is they want to gather in public and threaten violence. And what conservatives could do is the opposite of that. Gather in public and support our country, urge peace, urge democratic norms, defend our constitution. What you say you can have a million conservatives go out and rally for the country, for President Trump, for the Constitution.

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They would leave. You wouldn't find a single cigarette butt there afterwards. Seriously, you wouldn't find one there. This is what happened in the Tea Parties. You remember everyone tried to attack the Tea Party. Turned out absolutely. They were the cleanest, most orderly protests in America. Coincidentally, I think there will be some gatherings tomorrow in Washington. I am flying to Washington, out of L.A., out of La La land. I'll be giving a speech with the Young America's Foundation, but I encourage it peacefully.

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Show your country your defense of the Constitution. That is what we can do right now. That's one of the few things in our hands. I'm Michael, most filling in for Rush. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Michael Knowles filling in. We are on the search around this country for spine's in conservatives and Republicans, especially in elected Republicans. Seems when they were doling out the spine's, a lot of elected Republicans, I don't know, they were too far back in line. They didn't get any. There is one guy, though, who does have a spine who is standing up, who is leading the fight against some of the madness and the power grabs that we've seen and not just the past few weeks, but in the past many years.

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That would be U.S. Senator Ted Cruz, who has the distinction of being not just one of the top U.S. senators in this country, but also one of our nation's top podcasters. I think he is the only person who can do both host of Verdict with Ted Cruz. Senator Cruz, thank you so much for coming on.

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Well, Michael, it's great to be with you. And as your listeners no doubt know, you're you're the co-host of Verdict. Well, that is true. We launched it in January of this year. And so you and I spent the best time every week trying to drill down and understand all the crazy things happening in this country and really get to the substance and the facts. And so appreciate your having me today.

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Well, one thing I've noticed, it's not just that spines are in short supply, but also understanding of the issues is often in short supply. In Washington, it turns out Alexandria Cassio Cortez appears to think that the Democrats lost the House majority. That headline just came out, if only if only that were true. But that's not the case. Obviously, she's not paying too close attention to the issues there. And you have and when we launched our verdict podcast, it was during impeachment.

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We were meeting every night at 3:00 in the morning in an undisclosed bunker in Washington, D.C., and really going through exactly what was happening, what were the facts. And now we're in a time period that is as crucial, you would say, and as confusing. A lot of people don't know exactly what is going on.

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Senator, you were a lawyer during the Bush v. Gore recount back in 2000. So you have been in these kind of election messes before, in the trenches, on the front lines. What are we looking at? Where does this election fight stand right now in terms of the ballot counting, in terms of the courts and in terms of the final result? Well, you're right, we've seen this before as a country, we saw it 20 years ago and Bush versus Gore and at the time I was a young lawyer, was representing George W.

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Bush, part of the legal team. As you know, I wrote a book that came out a few weeks ago called One Vote Away How a single Supreme Court Seat Can Change History. And there's an entire chapter on one vote away, recounting the inside story of Bush versus Gore. What happened behind the scenes? And I think there are a lot of lessons for today, the recounts that are going on right now, the litigation that's going on right now.

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If you remember back to Election Day on Election Day in the year 2000, initially the news media called it for Al Gore. They said Al Gore had won Florida. They said Al Gore was the president. And I still remember Dan Rather gloating on air, being so happy and triumphant. And then the problem was that the voters disagree as they tally the votes in Florida. Turned out George W. Bush had more votes in Florida than Al Gore. And late in the evening, the media had to retract their their call.

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And then even later in the evening, they called the election for George W. Bush in Florida and nationally. Once again, Dan Rather painfully had had to acknowledge that. But then it turned out that was premature, too, because the results were very, very close. In Florida, Al Gore sent in an army of lawyers to the state of Florida. And for the next 36 days, we had litigation in Florida. I was in Tallahassee for that entire time.

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And at the end of that proceedings, once everything had been litigated and resolved, then once it was final, we knew the winner in the winter ended up being George W. Bush. I think that is analogous to where we are now, where the results the media wants the results to be Joe Biden. It may end up there, but we need to let the proceedings play out first, consistent with the rule of law, consistent with the Constitution.

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But, Senator, I've been reliably informed by the mainstream media that President Trump is an authoritarian, grabbing on to power, upsetting constitutional norms. This is outrageous. It's unprecedented. It's never happened. And what are we we're about ten days into this process or something. I don't know. Ten days. Seems like less than 36 days. What is this process? Because the media are presenting one side of it. But it seems, as you say, that there there are legal mechanisms, constitutional mechanisms to decide this election and we haven't reached the end of them yet.

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That's exactly right. You know, the media, Donald Trump broke the media that they hate the president so much that as soon as they had any plausible basis to do so, they gleefully declared the election for Joe Biden. And then the consistent position they have is anyone who dares question that is somehow a radical destroying democracy. Well, here's a. Radical thought, how about we actually let the election process and the legal process move forward? There is litigation, there are recounts, there's contest litigation in states all across the country, and that is how the rule of law operates.

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So it may be at the end of end of this process that Joe Biden prevails. But the objective should be that every legal vote that was cast should be counted. Right, that every illegal vote that was cast should be counted. And the way to figure that out is not what some random person puts out on Twitter, but it's rather we have a legal process where courts consider evidence considered direct testimony, consider expert witness testimony and assess whether the law was was followed.

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And to the end, to the extent it wasn't the job of the courts, is to make sure we do follow the laws. That is our system of democracy. And it is what the Constitution sets up. Right.

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We are speaking with senator and podcast host extraordinaire Ted Cruz. Senator, a lot of the issues here seem to revolve around 2016. It just seems like in many ways we're relitigating 2016. And of course, in 2016, there was some corruption. It just appears to have been happening in the Obama administration and in the bureaucracies spying on President Trump's campaign, framing President Trump's appointees, investigating him, trying to throw him out of office. I was wondering when you very graciously agreed to come on the show today, I was wondering if I would have to be speaking to you on a telephone from a jail cell somewhere because of your absolutely annihilating attack on former FBI deputy director Andy McCabe earlier this week, deputy director, former deputy director Andy McCabe, this crooked FBI official, was testifying before the Senate and people generally went pretty easy on him except for you.

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You you really hit the nail on the head. You backed him into a corner. And I know it's a complex issue, but can you just explain a little bit about that corruption and what we might see if any of these people will actually be held accountable? Yeah, no, it's one of the worst aspects of the Obama Biden administration is they deeply politicized the Department of Justice and the FBI and the CIA and law enforcement and intelligence. And they turned the FBI and DOJ into essentially an opposition research arm and an attack arm to go after their political enemies.

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And it you know, we've got centuries of tradition in this country of the Department of Justice being apolitical, not not being a partisan tool. And Obama and Biden corrupted that. And if you look at the top of the FBI, you had James Comey and Andrew McCabe and they willfully targeted President Trump because they hated President Trump and they went after General Michael Flynn in a way that was truly shameful. And they dissembled. They've lied about it. If you look at Comey testimony and McCabe's testimony, they're directly contradictory.

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And I actually think last week's testimony by McCabe was very important because it's the first time he's testified under oath, under penalty of perjury. And he testified specifically that James Comey authorized him and gave him the green light to leaked to the press. Right. Comey has testified exactly the opposite. One or the other is not telling the truth. And and I'm certainly frustrated that it's taken four years and we haven't seen people held accountable. We haven't seen people prosecuted.

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And I very much hope at a minimum in the next couple of months that the Department of Justice moves forward with enforcing the law and holding people accountable. Absolutely.

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Senator, very quickly before we go, I know in the Senate you sit next to David Perdue, a senator from Georgia. These races, these runoffs in Georgia could determine control of the Senate. We have your Democratic colleague, Joe Manchin, saying, don't worry, if Republicans lose control, the Senate, we're not going to pass any that radical legislation, don't we? It's going to be totally fine. Take your eyes off Georgia. Do you buy that kind of a narrative coming now from the Democrats, or do you think that really we could be seeing a tidal wave of radicalism if Republicans don't hold the Senate?

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I don't buy it at all. On January 5th, we have two Senate races on the ballot in Georgia. They are the most indescribably important Senate races of our lifetimes. If the Democrats win, Chuck Schumer in all likelihood becomes majority leader. And if Chuck Schumer as majority leader, he will end the filibuster, he will pass a massive tax increase. He will pass the green New Deal. He will pass massive amnesty for 15 million people here illegally and they will pack the U.S. Supreme Court.

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And I mentioned a minute ago my book, One Vote Away, how a single Supreme Court Seat Can Change History. That book, which has been a New York Times bestseller for five consecutive weeks now, explains how every one of our rights that we value so much free speech, religious liberty, the Second Amendment, those rights are hanging by a single vote. And Georgia, if the Democrats win in Georgia, they will pack the Supreme Court and take away our right.

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I'll tell you, I'm going to Georgia. I'm campaigning. We need every common sense conservative, every lover of liberty in Georgia to come out and make sure Republicans keep control of the Senate to stop the radicals. And I'd be remiss if I didn't encourage folks to go on Amazon or Barnes and Noble or wherever you buy your books and buy the book One Vote Away if you want to understand really what's at stake, Supreme Court and also what's going on in this recount and this litigation all across the country.

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Yeah, absolutely. A lot of political books, maybe most of them are kind of vacuous and they don't have that much substance. This book is great. It's a book about something. It's about something that is so important. Right. Right now, Senator Cruz writing his best selling books, doing the verdict podcast, leading the fight in the Senate. You are putting the rest of us to shame, but we really appreciate it. Keep the faith and stay strong.

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And thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you. God bless. All right, we got to take a quick break on Michael Knowles filling in for Rush. We will be right back.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Michael Knowles filling in and it is open line Friday. So let's get to some of your calls. In the meantime, let's turn now to C.C. in hell, Michigan. That's how a lot of people are referring to Michigan these days. The whole state says you're on the air.

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Hi, how's it going? It's going very well. How can I help you? All right, so I'm going to let you know I'm a registered Democrat, I'm a Jew, I'm a person of color. And I voted for President Trump. And I have a lot of lawsuits. And I'm a former boxer from California. And as soon as I saw my kids go down in March, I said certain things about this. I also work in health care and I have for 30 years.

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This is not right going over there doing this. And once I started digging into that, I started digging into everything and realized that we have been lied to about so many things. And I went and saw the president relive this again. I went and spoke at a Women for Trump bonfire. And I guess I'm part of this walk away movement now. I've only been listening to Iraq for a few months, but then definitely I don't believe there's a spike going on.

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I think this is drummed up to get people afraid enough to take whatever is going to be in this vaccine that magically appeared and also so that people can't properly do the audit, they're still going to have to be so afraid and stand so far back so that they can't fix this problem. I am very confident that Michigan went for Trump because all the people that voted for her before voted for him and then some.

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Well, I'm very pleased to hear of your conversion politically. And, you know, just listening to Rush for a few months will have that effect. But there is something more broadly going on now. We saw it in the exit polls. You know, my friend Candice Owens, who, by the way, is coming to join us at The Daily Wire. She's going be launching a show at Daily Wire with us over in Nashville. Candice has been talking for months now, more than months, I guess years about Bolex, about this idea that black voters in particular.

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But, you know, more broadly, ethnic and sexual groups that have been held by the Democratic Party are breaking free. They're waking up. And that that appears to have happened. You know, one of the big questions during the 2012 election was, is that true or is that a mirage? And it would seem to be true. It's ironic that it appears the only voting group that President Trump lost some votes in would be white men. We've been told for years he's a white supremacist.

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He's a neo-Nazi. Well, actually, his support ticked up among just about every single group, black voters, Hispanic voters, women all over the place, except perhaps white men. And, you know, you do have to take exit polls with a grain of salt, but something clearly is happening now. What is going on in Michigan right now? We don't know. This is one of the problems. I mean, you you mentioned that you don't really have faith in the public health experts.

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You don't really have faith in the state election officials. And, of course, why should you? You know, these people have lost their credibility and that's not our fault. It's not the fault of conservatives that these public health officials, that these bureaucrats, that these leftist politicians, that the media have completely becloud themselves and have lied and have gotten caught lying and have made errors. And that's not our fault. And this is one of the real worries with this election now, is we may not be able to feel comfortable with the results.

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Whatever happens, maybe this will work its way up through the courts and the courts will hand it to Joe Biden. Maybe it'll work its way up through the courts and they disqualify enough and find enough fraudulent votes that they give President Trump reelection. But either way, I suspect neither side is going to have faith in those results, especially with all of the irregularities. We were speaking with Mayor Giuliani a little bit earlier. You know, President Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, who was saying that they've found countless irregularities that ought to disqualify literally hundreds of thousands of votes in Pennsylvania.

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Whether that will happen or not, we're not sure. But regardless of what happens in the election, it does prove a real damage to our democracy, to our republic, that we can't have faith in these institutions. And I suppose the silver lining to that storm cloud is exactly what you're describing, which is that there there are a lot of people who have just been sort of entranced by the media and how could you not be by the entire liberal establishment?

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They've been entranced for years and decades and they haven't questioned it. And Trump comes in and he shakes things up that will be beyond any policy, even beyond the judges. That will probably be his longest lasting legacy. Let's hope that that legacy doesn't begin in a couple of months. Let's hope that legacy begins in four years and a couple of months. We will have to wait to to find out and we'll be seeing it as it works its way up through the courts.

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There is actually some breaking news now, a major court decision out of Michigan.

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We'll get to that in a second. I'm Michael Knowles, filling in for Rush.

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A Michigan judge has just handed a legal victory to Joe Biden that's being challenged by President Trump. I'm sure it'll be working through the courts, but that's all the time. I've got I'm Michael Knowles filling in for Rush, Rush plans to be back on Monday. Thank you so much to him and you for having me.