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I want to make a buck up, so I'm here with three people, I normally have no guests on my show. Last week we had a guest I interviewed on the phone the Eric the bank robber.

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Now I have another show with guests. My good friend, Tim Heidecker, John C. Reilly, Fred Armisen, have this brilliant show.

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And they asked to come on my show or maybe they're their publicist when and we didn't have the heart to say this isn't a show with guests on it.

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So we're making a show with guests on it just for them, because can you believe it? I get to be with three of my favorite people. I wish I could spoon all three of you right now.

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And I know all three of you in an individually separate from a you know, I don't know you from Moon Bay.

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I know you from different things. Should we go around and talk about how we know me?

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Do you just one question before that. The do you not want to do a show with guests in general?

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Like, no, yeah. It's not a show. It's not that kind of thing.

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You just that because what you like to do is that why it's that way. You do think you might end up liking having guests on the show.

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They don't like it. I'm a people person. I like to have guests, but normally I just this isn't a podcast with, like celebrity guests.

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So there's plenty of things like that out there. Right.

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But this is so special. That's so nice. It's nice opportunity just to get to see you guys.

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And we aren't we sit here and look, they really just kick out the jams for I mean, for not having just like all these cameras and lights and.

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Yeah, they they let you guys they put the cameras on you guys because sometimes people watch on YouTube, though, it is an audio medium.

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Do you know, Fred, from your disastrous stint at SNL?

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No, I first of all, I don't I, I do not believe this is a disastrous first job in show business. I think it's a disastrous stint.

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I was long gone before I met Fred.

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He dated my sister Laura. What? Yeah, you dummy again. Did you know Fred from his disastrous dating of your sister, Laura?

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It was like twenty years ago. Was it 2001? No sense of time.

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Is there an Odenkirk connection between the two of you with, like a post? No, but it was around the same time where I was working with Bob. Yeah. Yeah.

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Oh, on this the neck was it called next that pilot for his sketch show, right? Yes. But you had come here from Vegas where you were. Am I making this up now? Chicago. Where were you, a drummer at Blue Man Group. Chicago. Oh yeah. So sorry.

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I like that Fred grew up in Vegas, so that makes sense. I know. I grew up there. It makes as much sense as Long Island, which also doesn't make sense for Fred. But I know what would make sense then. The moon.

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Mars. Yeah. Boston, Austin. Boston. Oh Boston. Yeah.

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The one accent he can, can't do. I can't do Boston. Can you give us a ticket. Oh my God. That thing you do on your drummer special where you go through all the accents is a master class in comedy.

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I sent it to my son who was like he wasn't into it to me.

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I mean, not only the specificity and the accuracy, the speed at which you rifle through them in real time is that's really impressive. Oh, thanks, John. I can work my way up to like a Maine accent, but I got a warm up and see catchphrases and whatever. You just bam, bam, bam.

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You hit them all. Yeah. Sorry no one like I could say this about all three of you. Absolutely no one like Fred. I mean. Yeah, she's for better or worse, for better or for worse, I guess, but but mostly for better and a singular talent, singular talent, three singular talents we have here now. We have John C. Reilly, my friend, my brother, my Chumba. Who I remember meeting years ago when I dated Tommy Gee, Tom, Janet.

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Oh, yeah, you remember I think we went to your house, you were playing and you guys were all jamming in the garage.

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You came to Beevor board studios like to watch.

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I was I was like, you know, the fan on the couch or whatever. Oh, well, cool.

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Then we kind of met through Largo, SC, and I suppose. Yeah. Oh, this man of yours for so long. Oh. And then choise.

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And then we ended up playing cartoon characters together, which was which is the longest job of my life. So you're my longest co-worker probably.

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Yeah. No other job was lasted that many years. How many years was it.

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Well between the sequel and the original, you know, I don't know the amount of time work.

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I mean maybe nine years, but the amount of time working was probably an afternoon, 13 months.

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But I still like being connected. And those are my coworkers and those are the people I work with. It's like it went on and on and on. Like most of my jobs, the longest even manual labor jobs lasted like six to eight months, you know, before I would bail, you know, the cartoon like that.

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Do you is there a script or you just kind of information, just kind of riff the whole thing?

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You know, this is a great script, but we do that as a friend.

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We had the writers the whole time, so we were allowed to riff and we would riff almost every day.

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And we were always together, which is rare. That's nice. It was a mandate by Johnny C.. Well, I knew very grateful. You're going to improvise. You can't, like, do it one at a time. You have to be there. And I think I think as a result of doing that, the movie has a lot more heart than it might have had otherwise. Genuine heart that movies and heavy rotation at my house, both of them, what could, well, big time be getting off the phone with John and then he's coming in for my living room and we'll get back to this.

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But this lasts the sequel we did a lot of the days, had to be Saturday because he was shooting Moon Base eight and he would come in so excited.

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I mean, we booked like an hour or two longer on purpose.

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They would book because we just had so much fun catching up and bullshitting and everything. And it was I loved it. And every Saturday he would he would kind of reenact the scenes. He was shooting guys over the week and it made me very excited.

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And so when I finally came out, I was like, oh, my God, this is it. And then seeing, you know, you came in and you were talking about the, you know, the episode where the gun is under your bed and the note and giving things away.

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But to see it play out, it was just that's cool. We'll get back to it because now let's talk about Tim.

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Lastly, lastly and lastly, Tim Heidecker. Really, these are people who have redefined comedy where they're that they're in.

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You know, I mean, Steve Bruel is an offshoot of Tim and Eric, might I say.

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Yeah, yeah. He's a friend of a friend of that.

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And and I met you.

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I did a thing on time goes to the mayor and I met them and Fred did as well.

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But I always felt looking back and I don't remember what it was or but I had and I had a negative energy that day that I always regretted.

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I know I've said that to you and you go, I don't recall that at all.

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So I'm glad I but I felt like I was not Contee, but not playing and like, I don't know, I it was added.

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But anyway, I was like, if you were kind to me anyway that was a diva.

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I just I did the show. I didn't know what I was doing. So I was being directed to do something that I, I couldn't visualize. I don't think I was Contee. I mean, I was game and I should.

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But like I looking back, I you know, when you don't know, like, oh, that was really special, the cool thing, you know, so maybe I'm just regretting like my mindset or something, but it's probably a lot better than Gary Busey.

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When he came in around that same time, you know, that ended up kicking me out of the studio because I gave him a line reading and he yelled at me and I literally, you know, was one of the scariest days of my life.

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Did he say, get out, get out of here? You don't tell me what to do. Like, literally, you'll get out. Oh, my son have been so excited, so scary.

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I have a nine minute hidden camera tape of the whole experience that when he passes away, we'll go wide as it is beautifully framed.

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That's a good impression.

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It was an odd show to see that Tom goes to. Yeah, because I'm doing it in a way I never heard of before.

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We did the voices and then we would take you into a photo studio and take like a bunch of stills of you and then animate it later. But I yeah, I remember, like, you know, I was there was our first thing, the first show. We didn't know anybody. Bob basically introduced us to everybody and gave, you know, his seal of approval. So we were all just I mean, we were fans of all you people.

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You know, we were probably just nervous of any.

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I actually met them because of the great Ron Lynch. Yes.

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Oh, what you went to. We both met at Ron Lynch's bowling party. Yeah. And I was like, we sent you a script.

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Did you get a chance to look?

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It was very it's embarrassing to talk about stuff. It was the script. It was an episode of Tom Goes to the Mayor.

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Oh, wow. And he ended up doing it. And then the rest is history. But then we've started a company together later. Absolutely no, Jack. Oh, yeah, you and I and yes, then, of course, we we started Jash together, which needs no introduction.

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Well, I feel so bad about it because I like change in the world of comedy.

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You know, we get made fun. I don't know if you get made fun of, but I get made fun of for that name. Just the name Jash.

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Yeah. Todd Barry always makes fun of me about it.

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Yeah. And then I always see on YouTube the clips from the Norm McDonald podcast that he did, which is great. Right.

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It's really funny, but they have these big jash mugs on set just because I remember coming up with it at your apartment with the four of us, we wanted Josh, we just like Josh Dotcom, Josh and that wasn't available or whatever, which is a jash.

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Yeah, I like it.

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I like it too. Also, what what we counted on was like when it becomes a big thing, no one's going to be thinking about it.

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We should talk about a moon base rate your TV show. Sure. Let me tell you this.

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The finale of Moon Base Eight already aired. It aired on Sunday this past Sunday on Showtime. Irrelevant.

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Is that how you watch TV? Watch TV once a week on your. No, you catch up on the whole season whenever which is available to stream on Showtime and across all show time partner platforms.

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Even before it was done, I watched it on show to go. That's how I watch the show. I go, I find this show to be.

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Awesomely, not for everyone, but it is for me and my boyfriend.

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We watch it and we it really is it's a very specific, not necessarily familiar.

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Kind of comedy that it makes so much sense that the three of you together made this and it's it's it's so, so fucking stupid, but it's so and yet the characters are so beautifully drawn and three dimensional.

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You know, it reminds me it's nothing like Book of Mormon, but it reminds me of Book of Mormon. And it's the success of it for me because it's funny, you know, it's going to be funny, but it's then there's then they have the dancing and the singing is like the best of Broadway, you know. So it's like for this, it's it's aggressively stupid, but it's brilliant.

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And each of your characters are so fleshed out, you know, it's it and it can carry the weight of that. It's the comedy is I feel like there are people that can mix it. They're not they're looking for something familiar they've seen before.

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But it is you have to watch it with a totally open mind. And I think most of your fans are going to get it.

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Yeah. Or already get it. But it is.

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Yeah, I really enjoyed it a lot nicer. And I thought you were just being nice when you wrote us in their email that you love the show guys.

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But I think you guys came up with your own characters, right, as far as we were writing it. Year, I don't, I guess, yeah, I mean, we just kind of played to our strengths for the most part.

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It's funny that you say it's you might go to the show expecting a certain thing and then it's going to be this other weird thing that was actually in the bones of building the show. That was one of our main intentions was we don't want this to go through a vetting process. We don't want people who think the way a show should be get their hands on it. We just want to do what we want to do exactly. Like we want to do it with our sensibility and our sense of humor and our weirdness.

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And then we want someone to pay for that, you know, and there was there wasn't really a model to do that through the regular TV development process. So we're like, why don't we just get, like an independent film company to pay for it and then they can sell it to a stream.

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And that's how we make because there is no way no offense to Showtime, who has a lot of interesting programming. There is no way they would develop this and put it on their air.

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Too weird for anyone to develop other than us three.

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I'm so I'm so disconnected though, because I don't see it as being that weird, you know, that compared to the stuff I usually get involved with or end up making, it feels to me I was like, wow, I finally made a broad comedy.

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Well, because it looks it looks good physically. Looks just like a of an expensive Yeah. Movie, you know, we're like in it and you play it, all three of you play it earnestly and straight. There's no winking and there's no wackiness. There's no comedy sauce on it. You know, I mean, yeah, no, I could use a laugh track, but never the operating room. You know what what makes it not mainstream and what makes it feel so odd when you watch it are the things that we choose to dial, to screw into, you know, like things we really like.

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You know, those would be things that most shows, I think would want to get past, like, let's not get too petty or too mundane or get stuck in little weird details.

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Let's what's the story of this episode, you know, was like instead we're like have all these petty jealousies and and competition amongst each other in these weird little things that are uncomfortable. They're weird. So like I think most executives or people that developed a TV show would be like, that's going to make people uncomfortable. It's just weird. Let's get to the funny stuff.

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Right.

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So people I think a lot of people are going to miss the gold that you're putting in their laps, but that makes it all the more special, you know, but they are it's not not that you're looking to be relatable, but all of these things are real human things. They're sourced from the things we all know from inside our own egos and bodies.

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Well, that's I think. The linchpin of the show working is that we went for all this weird stuff and stuff about low self-esteem and competition and feeling alienated and not feeling worthy. And it turns out, even though those are weird things to explore, that's exactly what people find relatable about it.

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Sarah Temes character is this very devout Christian Catholic with a million kids and a wife may be Mormon or some kind of evangelical, right?

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Yeah. Is he devout though, when he can't remember the Lord's Prayer? Like devout? Maybe he sets a terrible precedent in a way. Right.

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But sincere, sincere, earnest. Yeah, he's a believer. Yeah.

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What kind of a nearly fucking that guy. The preacher. Pastor.

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Yeah. Kind of like a I mean the neutral out of the three of us. Kind of a neutral vanilla, you know, the middle between the chocolate and the vanilla, between the chocolate, the strongly openly Christian.

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Just absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. But there is no embarrassment.

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It's very sweet, you know, and and also there's a there's an it's interesting in the landscape of science, you know. Yeah.

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And there's only one that knew him and and you just were you had no interaction with her.

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But we're positive that you both felt like. Right. What are we going to do about chemistry so satisfying?

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We're also like I think we're all not looking our best in this show because we're like, oh, I knew you knew.

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Our wardrobe is so unflattering. Yeah, infantilizes. Tucked in shirts and Polo's khakis and those terrible pajamas that we're wearing. And so it's like there was no sexual energy in that moon base at all.

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There's no way for that to exist.

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So I love it. Like you said, he's just unapologetically Christian. He just moves through. He doesn't like say we're going to go to hell or whatever. He doesn't judge us, but he assumes that that is the truth. He's just operating in this Christian lane all the time.

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Like and you can see he has a need. This character has a need for concrete answers. I mean, that's that's why people become scientists. It's also why people become religious.

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Know, just like I don't need to think the answers are laid out and there's no critical thinking involved, you know, and we just move right past it to like we're looking at the moon.

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And Tim's character says, yeah, I say something about the moon. He's like, I just worry about the werewolves and smells. And I just immediately go, Yeah, that's make believe. Anyway, this other thing, you know, like, I just we just skip past. Yeah.

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And then Johnny C. S character is really beautiful in a way. Where were you like you see from the very beginning that. Like my therapist, I mean, this character is like my therapist, as we don't go, we don't get what we want, we get what we think we deserve, and people go towards what's familiar over what is unknown. That's too scary. And clearly, like your character is is a victim of abuse, is like your comfort zone is to be abused.

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You know, it's to I think, you know, like from that first episode, you know, I get bullied by Travis.

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Yeah. And you just need that there's something in that character that needs that, right?

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Yeah, I think I think he's he's such a man's man kind of guy that when there's someone who's more of a man's man, the guy around, he's like, oh, we have to worship this one. And that's what I was thinking of it like, because when he's not there, after Travis leaves the space, spoiler alert and then I kind of just become like a dominant kind of macho guy again. But in the face of someone I feel is more macho than me or more tougher than me or something, I it sounds like Trump cultists, worshippers.

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I always loved that about the Three Stooges. Whenever there was an authority figure, you know, like the the the millionaire that they're they're fixing their house or whoever the boss real boss was.

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Mo was very deferential to that person, very much on the level of the other two guys soon as that when they got back in charge. And he was. But when you see him around like the authority figures. Yes, yes. Yes, yeah, that's true.

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I'm sort of the MO in that first episode anyway. And Fred is in a way, the straightest character way. Yeah. Just and it. It's just it's so funny for some reason, I don't understand the the junior math mentality, being a junior, being part of a family that has a name. But yeah, we just thought that was funny.

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Yeah. And when you're sick, the two of you and then playing your mother and your father and.

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Yeah. Yeah. Because we, we yeah. There wasn't that much room for us to be silly or be to play kind of characters. So we tried to find little moments where you know, Fred could do, you know, more than just play kind of the scientist button down sort of sarcastic characters.

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But it's so good. It's it is so and it's funny that this was actually shot pre covid because it seems like an ideal shoot during Kovács. Yeah.

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Like masks and everything or whatever. Helmets.

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Yeah. Often just one person in a scene. Yeah. Or just no more than the three of you.

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So what is Showtime waiting for for season two. Come on. Ready to pick up on that.

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I mean it's, it's so special.

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My, I love about all three of the characters is that they live in these very specific psychological profiles of which they have no awareness of their own, you know. Yeah. He's clearly living in the shadow of his father. And it's like this all of it. Everything he does is so wrapped up in that, you know, legacy and everything, but. You know, we see it as this thing that's hindering him, but he's just like, no, I'm a hanai, it's this, you know what I mean?

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We don't we all three of you are daddy issue based.

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Yeah. Like, my character isn't going. Why why did you let Travis push you around like that? You should be. You know, it never even occurs to me we're so dysfunctional in our psychological profiles that we can't even be objective about it.

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But that's that's a true life. I mean, you know, I can you know, we can see clear as day what's wrong with everyone else but himself.

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It's it's you know, I thought about not to give away season two ideas, but seemed like such an obvious thing thinking about it, that that moon base has one bathroom.

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How can we have not played with the idea of, like, men waiting for sitting out there? Oh, yeah. Like that's such a classic sitcom. Yeah.

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We love going with, like, some sitcom ideas when we were writing the show. So anyways, keep track of that idea. Maybe a really good a joke.

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Well this is this, this is I'm guessing this is real that people that they play out. Is this not at all exists that, oh, no, they practice this stuff? Yes, no, it's real. It's happening now, right? There's one in Utah. There's one in Hawaii. Enough.

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Since we made the show, three other countries have developed lunar programs that didn't have them or weren't being so ambitious with them before we started, like China, just that whole thing that China just, you know, they put a lander on the moon recently like we didn't know that was going to happen at the time we were making. So we're going to have to add all kinds of international competition into the show next year.

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It's mostly academic studies that are doing it that then submit their reports, whatever. But there is sort of this process to figure out, well, what what you know, we have to learn some fundamental things about how to live on other planets and practice, and you're supposed to really do it.

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And so, like, when you're running out of water, you're all really run, you know, becoming malnourished and everything.

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But there is water, you know, probably a block away.

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We're afraid to say, though, because we are afraid to admit any mistakes to NASA. So we're constantly right.

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You can't go back to Honolulu having failed. Yeah. Or India.

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You know, India will try to put a probe on the moon, too, and it doesn't pile on. Liftoff. No, hit the moon like.

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Oh, to heart like it just so much attention on that.

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You know, it's the first thing like got it up there and then power station.

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It just lied and said that that was what their intent like the Mars landing, it looked like it was a mistake. It was so clunky and scary. I was like oh but they were like yeah. Yeah, just sheer.

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Just sheer. The eyes were on India for their big moment. And it's a lot. It's a lot. But they'll learn next time.

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There'll be another time. And landing on the moon, total landscaping.

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You know, it's lame to of the sorry landscape would have been better maybe two weeks ago.

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I think it's going to come down. I think it's got legs. Yeah. Or in like six months. Yeah. What's going to happen? Well, I don't want to get into too much politics. Well, well what if I don't want to spell out any despicable characters. But what if one of these people that we think is a despicable character dies from covid.

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Then what do we celebrate like I'm I'm a humanist. I don't want anyone to die, but some of these people are doing awful things that are causing death in other people.

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So we should go to jail for murder. Yeah, I'd rather have them live and go to jail for premeditated murder.

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I'm with you. I don't think anyone wants them to die or no one here.

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But I think the political comments gotten so bad, like our side must win your side must lose that when even when people die, there's some I think people want to celebrate or something.

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No, no, no. Because there are no lessons learned from from any of us.

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There's something funny about it to me. Rudy Giuliani getting covid is funny to me, even though that's mean to think it's funny.

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I'll acknowledge that the content of it's just that in one month it was yeah, it was worse. He's more landscaping.

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I know. Hair dye dripping down his face, fart lambasting a woman for for wearing a mask next to him. Right.

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Farting next to that woman and then getting on the whole. The whole really just now.

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Yeah, the whole traveling around the country trying to dispute the election.

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I went to the Borat thing. To Borat thing. Yeah. Yeah, right. Tim gives me usually the big political updates that happen I get from Tim first because he's such a political junkie. And when the first thing I thought of when he said Rudy had Korona was, can you get Korona from a fart?

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That's my dad. I thought that too, because of course you can get Korona from a fart and you breath. It's ass breath, it's breath.

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Farts are breath and they're made out of particles.

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Yeah. I mean, it could be a symptom, too. It's a symptom, I suppose. Digestive problems.

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I think that's you can probably catch farts from that girl's expression though was the most I mean.

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Yeah. That kind of grown woman. Yeah. Yeah.

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She went Oh like she's like she said do you, did you just say something.

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Yeah. Pardon me.

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She turned wide eyed.

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Yeah. Do you say pardon me after you pass. Guess if I was I would have said something like oh my God, I'm so sorry. That's so embarrassed.

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Embarrassed. I farted. Yeah. I was in the middle of criticizing them about something though. He was like going at them for it. How did you how do you.

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They are like Trump. They're you're full of shit. And here's why you're up. Excuse me. You're so full, you know, like how do you continue your diatribe and apologize for a fart in the middle of that.

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But he's just made of oozing putrid gas.

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He's like made of martini olives. I think he said mostly martini olives and Sacagawea.

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Yeah, that's why he'll never dies like fermented rice pickled. Should we take some listen to some voicemails?

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I'd love to. Hi, Sarah. My name is Priscilla. I'm calling from Tucson, Arizona, and I. Just need you to understand how much I am all going to be. Can we focus on something?

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She's on LUDs, Fliess, which just sitting next to it when they're sitting next to him with me. He is a legend. This man portrays a character known as Doctor Steve Brule. This character is something that is life changing to witness. It has changed my life. I don't know how many times I smoked weed and watch that show. It pains me as a comedian, as a woman, as an American. I just need John C. Riley to just please talk about it.

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I can't seem to find much about him on YouTube or anything, you know, because he is absolute genius, OK? I actually do character work because of him. And he and Sacha Baron Cohen are just the epitome of character work. So I please ask him to talk about it. Ask him to acknowledge it like he has a whole fan base who is just absolutely enamored with this doctor. Anyway, thanks. I love you. That was a long voice.

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That was really long. You've been transformed by getting high so much. That's what transformed you, not the show. But no, I'm the executive producer of Check It Out with Doctor Steve Brule. People make a lot of comparisons between me and that character. It is not me. He's his own doctor, man. Well, I appreciate the compliments because I'm involved with that show. You're going to find it very frustrating, though, this answer.

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Maybe you can pass that message on to Steve. I will.

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The way you reach Steve is you have to fax Danny, his best friend, and then Danny pages, Steve Loomis, another fax involved in there. Somewhere in the word gets through. We're hoping that we can get in touch with Steve again because we would love there to be a season five.

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I have nothing. Nothing to add. Thank you, I'm thanking you for her. I'm hoping the next one is not about me. Well, let's see. Voice mail to. Hey, guys, just wondering how fast or Maserati's oh, inside is an inside joke, Sarah. OK, go on.

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We noted that The Eagle Song, Joe Walsh, it's actually Joe Walsh song My Massarotti goes one eighty five.

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Yes, that sounds correct. In any key. So my massarotti goes one eighty five.

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My Massarotti goes one in five. Sounds correct. Still my Mazzarelli goes one eighty five.

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Yep. Still correct. My mother goes one eighty five, that's getting close work, so works. My name is Randy Ingles, one eighty five. Radicals, 180 and so like, where is Joe Walsh actually singing?

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Where is my mother and then Fred's really good at going really high.

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That's as high as they can go. But that's that sound, but you have that the game is you have to do it without going into falsetto, right?

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It has to be way you started that joke is onset of Moonbase eight. Fred came up with that bit and started just is like I can sing this at any key. You're bragging, like I could do this, I can do this. And it was just this nonsense thing that just kept repeating over and over. And then you added it to your standup, you said in a kilt.

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Yes, I did. Put it in. Yeah. Thanks, always have some fun of doing the show or one of the reasons to do the show was like there's so many things that I'm sure you love when you get to work with funny people is like some of the funniest stuff is not in the show. It's like off. It's when you're sitting around waiting and goofing around. And that's that's all we did. We're sitting around.

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I've also done comedies that are oddly not fun on set. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't think I've done that.

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I mean, and I've done dramas that are fun on set. Right. The hang. It's the hang.

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But yeah, this is I mean like for instance record ralfe. We had so much fun on our recording days, so many fun stories.

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I've done a lot of movies over the years and the thing I've realized is that something like if it's really fun and everyone's having a great time, you could have a winner on your hands or you could have a dud on your hand.

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If it's just fucking miserable every day, you probably have a date on your hands, right?

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That's been my experience, because the kind of like there's no joy and it just kind of even on a dramatic movie that is serious and has tough stuff in it has to be a bit of esprit de corps when you're making it. Keep everyone, you know, when it's just miserable every day. I don't know. That's just to me that's like, oh, this one's going to be a stinker.

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Yeah, I've done a few I guess I've done like a few like kind of more sitcom things that are like which I'm not good at and I and I there always really stressful. And you have people on set that feel that and are like everyone's this I've told you this story about the sound guy who was like putting my life on. And it was this, it was a teach. I was playing a teacher and it was like a real starchy white shirt.

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And this guy was so annoyed with my shirt and he's putting his and he's just like, is this your shirt?

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And I go, No, it's not.

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And he goes, This is the worst shirt I've ever worked with. And that was like the attitude from everybody on that said, this is so funny now. Yeah, this is a bummer.

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I have one quick little movie rule if you're ever wondering, like if you ever look at you on a jury of a film festival or something or someone or you're thinking about working with a director. Right. And they send you the film to watch if the titles of the film are not good. It is one hundred percent sure the movie will be bad. Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean Tattletales Loredo sequence, you know, as the titles come up, right?

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If they look if it's poor graphics that are chosen, if it looks cheap or rushed or like, what is this like? You know, like, I hope this movie is good. These titles are terrible as opposed to like, you know, the titles are really nice. The movie can still suck. Right. But if the titles are bad, I found it's like a ninety nine percent chance that the movie is going to give an example.

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Oh, no, I can't actually, no, not offhand, because because of those movies probably don't stay with you. You don't remember, because this is the thing when you get to the end of the editing process that you've made a movie, it's almost like a tell, like how much money you spend and how much care you give to the title, which is always done after the fact, shows how much you believe, whether the movie is any good or not or the people involved in it, you know.

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So if like at the end of it all, they're like, yeah, well, just just yeah, we were going to do these special titles, but just, you know, just do the best you can. It shows like a lack of faith in the movie.

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It's like a tell to me. Anyway, John gave me this really good bit of advice for taking the role, John said.

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Can you ever picture someone else doing this wrong? Oh, yeah. So the answer is like, yeah, anyone can do it. He's like, don't do it. If it if you're sure it can be you. That's the role for you. That's great. So good.

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The older I get, the more that's true. I'm like, do I really have to be me to have to be like if I don't do this is is it going to be not as good if someone. But if you think like. Well, no, I can think of four people that could do this, then those are the ones that you do not know about.

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Yeah. That's really good advice. Oftentimes I get something and I go, I can think of five people that would do such a great job, you know, besides me, I always pitch other people for a thing or two.

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And then if in fact, speaking of record, Ralph, I told Rich I tried to talk him out of it for months and months and months. It was so stupid of me now that I think of it because, well, how joyful and what a special experience that ended up being for me. I just had all these ideas about that Disney was going to be too corporate, would be hard to work for them to believe how much they let us do.

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They let us do whatever we wanted. Basically, I can't believe you guys were in that movie.

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That's like a real movie, you know what I mean? Well, John's been in lots of real movies.

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You know, that was like when I walked into the Disney building one day and all the posters were up for the first time for for record, Ralph.

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The first one, I was like, oh, my God. Like, it really was a humbling moment. Yeah, I'm like Dumbo or whatever.

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That's what I on the front of this thing. That's what I mean.

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Yeah, that was pretty cool.

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You know, that Massarotti thing I was I spent New Year's with Joe. Was this really.

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Yeah. Yeah. How come? Because I did this New Year's gig with Bill Maher in Hawaii and he flew on the plane with us and his wife and I.

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Fully fell in love with him. He seems like the greatest. He does seem like a lovable rascal, Joy. He and his wife are sober and he's like, yeah, he's like goofy and he's silly.

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And he's best friends with Ringold. Like his best friend is Ringo, one of his best friends. Ringo, like, that's who we pals around with.

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But he went on stage and sang that song one line at a time, one phrase at a time, starting with Wayne ampm.

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Poignant. Yeah. Yeah. And then he explains it.

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He goes, I had this riff and I just I just go take it up to the top of this thing that's so good. And every explanation was just simple. Right.

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And not deep enough is really funny. Right.

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Is it not maybe one of the first songs that that said those things like I'm a rock star in my life is maybe not all it's cracked up to be or whatever.

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And is InterCivic ironic?

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Yeah. Again, his bragging, he's saying this is empty or.

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Yeah, it's cool. There are a few of those. Well this rock n roll fantasy. Yeah. But those are all sort of putting it down a little bit.

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Yeah. He's like celebrating it. He's like having fun with it. It's almost like money for nothing and tricks for free, you know, like that. So you want to do a rock and roll star like it's been good to me. Isn't that crazy. They gave me a Maserati. I can't drive like well maybe putting on the Ritz was a version of it.

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I went before rock and roll. That was a sort of the Falko version.

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No, the original one from the 40s before putting out the Ritz, the crackers for four guests putting out the Ritz. Why didn't they use that crack? It's not too late.

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Oh, that was a really big song. I think I was in seventh grade when they did that, you know, remake one.

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And I thought it was just his song. I thought it was Falko song when I was a kid. I think that's Toco not far.

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Oh, sorry. Utako. Yes, sorry. No Balcatta. They sang Falko is their kommissar and Amadeus. Oh right. Right in singing was that song Rock Me Amadeus like tied to that movie or that they think I feel like that year was just or that time was they were celebrating.

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People are talking about Mozart.

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It was like the King Tut phase. Exactly. That's the perfect. Yeah.

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You know, a movie was big for me this year, especially this year. The movie was Cher Mask.

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Is because of Corona?

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Yeah, just the mask, the snow didn't didn't even make a connection at all. I only made it because he was already been doing this on text for a couple of days. But I had I have not heard this mask. One mask turned.

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Anyone you want to play a game?

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Books-A-Million I have to look at you. It's Moon trivia.

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OK, Moon trying to put together a show that's like guests and not be talking.

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Yeah. So that's pretty good. I did a good job.

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Yeah. What I did was amazing. It is here's what you talk a lot about this, and it's funny because you see all seem stupid, but I couldn't tell you what this is. What does NASA stand for?

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Oh, OK.

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Do you guys know national? Aeronautic Space Agency, No. Association, no. The joke in the show, I mean, honestly, you guys national, is it now Aeronautics and Space Agency, that's just wrong.

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What? But you have the first the most important parts, national aeronautics and Space.

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Administration is. Shin is what we were looking for, a demonstration. What year was the moon landing in 1969.

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At I watched you look, everybody knows that. I think everybody knows that's like July 4th, 17.

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So I said you just sounded like, wait, wait, don't tell me like administration. You know, like the show. Yeah.

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And then who directed the moon landing? Stanley Kubrick. That's right. Is the alleged director, but that's because, of course, the moon landing was faked. It was shot in Hollywood and directed by Stanley Kubrick.

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No one's ever been on the moon.

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That would be crazy. That's why so far. And try to imagine getting three people, just three three people to keep a secret. Totally never tell anyone. Three people think about how hard that would be.

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That's why we all know Stanley Kubrick. But, you know, it's really something thousands of people were in on that and they kept it secret.

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Well, you know what? You know, it's really annoying when someone says, you know, what's really interesting is if, like, what you just said wasn't. But I just said but it's and I think you said this, but it's actually harder.

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Back in 1969, it would have been harder to have faked it than to have actually gone to the moon.

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Yeah, because of the video technology. Well, yet they didn't know there's a whole crazy video about this. Did the video that was that we saw the frame rate and all that stuff. You could not have done it. We couldn't have done it in 1969. Well, if you think about it, that's my other annoying phrasing.

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In other words, you haven't thought at all if you think about it, Tim, anyway, actually, no point just saying that's another one of those annoying leading phrases.

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What's another one, Fred? If you think of what like like annoying things to start a conversation with, you have what I said is when someone when someone does like like a little cliche thing like, oh, that'll get in.

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Yeah. And then they go into their thing. Right. That'd be fun. And then they.

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So they're shutting you down right. In that mode, like laughing along and then they go into that, they just want to make their point. Love it anyway.

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The first the next class racing. Which of these good there are more, are there more? Right. I didn't pick on which of these is the name of NASA's current program to put the first woman and man on the moon by twenty twenty four.

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Is it Artemus Zus or Hyperion? Fred. I can only guess Hyperion. Artemus, one hundred percent zus. John C. Reilly is correct, Artemus 100. How did you know? Because I'm a fucking space nerd. I follow this stuff. I really do.

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Sorry, you have that on video. I know I'm a space nerd freaked out on us by that.

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He's going to get he's going to get the biggest wedgie when people find out that he's such a space nerd. People are going to give him wedgie.

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Let me get a nugget. Wedgie, nugget, nugget. This question is.

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Subjective. Do we think werewolves look forward to full moons or dreadful moments?

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Oh, well, my understanding of it is that the men who become werewolves fear full moons because that turns them into werewolves. Yeah, skirts. And they might hurt others.

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Right. They don't want they want to lock themselves in a room. They do not want to get out. So I would say the men who become werewolves are fearful of. But I assume the wolf state of mind would would revel in the full moon.

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I don't think they don't revel in anything. There's just so much howling. And I think they're always in misery.

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The howling is like pain. I think it's pain.

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And yeah, they just woke up and the thing is, is miserable. But if you're like a sociopath, you know, like, oh, I can't wait till I can tear some people up. Come on, hurry up, Maumoon.

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They don't seem to be you know, they always seem very bummed to be going through this experience or for a cure.

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Yeah. Oh, my hand turning. I like bone. Yeah. Yeah. Fingers. Because now you're becoming a werewolf.

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Yeah. Long flight, Arthur. Where women. What is that not allowed. They turn into little pussycats because they're all there, I know there aren't either there will be 10 and then it was just written by man.

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Yeah, OK, that's the answer.

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Yeah. Yeah, I should be stop motion going on. There's a surprise that there are, but they really still for the stop motion to work, OK, to be a separate shot, you just get up and run out of the house and get to a the plate.

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Yeah exactly. Yeah. Why don't they just jump up.

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Oh that's what I would do. No, I mean, the first time, maybe the first time there shock, you know, after like the eighth time there probably should be more like, oh, yes.

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And there seems to be a lot tissue ripping and stuff. But then when they return back to their self that there are no shirt, their shirts ripped, but that's about it.

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Here's the next question. Ranka TV lists the best 19 current TV shows about space. What rank is Moon Bay?

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Say, wow, is it on there? Fred is a real list head. He should have all 19 of these. It's 19 that are on there. I mean, I just want to be as we have some humility and just say 19.

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But you're saying there's 19 shows about space that are currently on TV.

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What can you read the question again, Ranko?

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TV lists the best, not just 19, the best 19 current TV shows about space is more of a Star Trek shows, and that's probably pretty high.

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What rank 10 is Moon Bay. Say, who ranks Ranko? But I'm going to say 19 just to keep it.

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Just to give it some humility.

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All the way to 19. We've got a 10. I want to say 18 just to kick spaceports in the balls.

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Well, you are ranked number 11.

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Oh, that was close. That's not bad. Thank you to Jon and Tim and Fred. Thank you.

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So, friends, this is me being an interviewer and a host. And, you know, the finale of Moonbase eight aired.

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I don't know why Showtime really wants me to drill this in.

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They're going to do it next weekend to tonight or last night was five and six. And next Sunday will also be five and six.

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Oh, they want me to read. This whole thing is aired this past Sunday, December six on Showtime. All of that's irrelevant. Catch up on the whole season.

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Moon Base eight is available to stream on Showtime in and across all Showtime partner platforms. You can watch it on demand. You can watch it on show to go. You can watch it. I watched them all. We to go Hulu.

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They're only two minutes long. Each episode is two minutes. There's no way we're promoting it really fast and there's so funny.

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And if you get it then you're in the know then that makes you cool.

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I'm just going to like and subscribe, even though I don't even listen to the show that helps you because they like you.

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You're going to give me a positive rate and review. Yeah. Then do that, I guess. I mean, what am I what do you have sheep.

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Oh, God, I get shocked again. Anyway, with her hubby, I had a nice time.

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I did. Really nice to see you, Sarah, and you.

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And we usually don't say thank you to people, but thank you.

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You don't say thank you.

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We're not big thinkers, but keep it rolling, you guys. I'm like, take my soul anyway, so to go. What do you guys think of do they do that? I'm Chris. Yeah. For all you foodies out there, I'm unwrapping a McDonald's steak, egg and cheese bagel. Look at this steak and the juice running down the side. Got a little bit on the wrapper here. And then a fluffy egg and real cheese floated over the side, looking just so good.

[01:00:25]

Mm hmm. Grilled onions and about a bagel, two thumbs up, a McDonald's steak, egg and cheese bagel for breakfast. Love it.

[01:00:34]

Bah bah bah bah bah. I participate in McDonald's.