The Reason Passed Muster: Tuesday, December 3rd, 2024
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Good morning, millennials.
Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Tuesday, or should I say, Happy curtain day to all who celebrate. It's curtain day, too. And speaking of curtains, hey, Jacks, how you doing?
I'm doing good. I've chosen the curtain life today. We left you guys on a cliffhanger yesterday. That was also coupled with- Will they?
Won't they?
Coupled with some misinformation about December fourth. Today is December third. I am on The Toast. You did not get Ben. It was a make it work moment, and we made it work. So. Ben said no. Ben, did he have good reason?
Yes, he is actually back to back shoots today. He's in Brooklyn already, filming collab content, food content, chef-like things.
His reason, past, muster.
What?
His reason, past, muster.
What?
Okay, his reason, P-A-S-S-E-D, space, M-U-S-T-E-R.
It wasn't that I couldn't, like, phonetically here. I seriously have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
It's approved, more or less.
Yeah, I approve. It was a good reason. It was a legitimate excuse. Is that what you were trying to say?
It was a good reason. His reason past muster.
Oh, it past the muster?
It's just a phrase.
It's not a phrase. I've never heard it. You know I know all the phrases.
Now you're making me feel like it's not a phrase.
Let me just- When did you learn this phrase yesterday? Because we're sisters. I've known you your whole fucking life. You have never said that phrase.
Okay. To pass muster means to be accepted as adequate or satisfactory. His reason past muster.
Is that a phrase? Is reason past muster a phrase or just past muster means something?
Pass muster in the dictionary means to be accepted as adequate. That's literally his reason past muster.
Okay.
No, you're right. It's not like in the last 24 hours I heard that phrase, and now I'm bringing it to the show. I don't know what recess of my mind it came from. I don't know what inspired me.
Well, guess what? That is not past muster of you. Okay. Oh, my God. You ever talk to somebody and they immediately start speaking Chinese? I literally had no idea what the hell you were talking about.
His reason past muster. Yes. I'm excited for him that he's hitting the mean streets of Brooklyn to film content.
Yes. More on that. More on that. Yes. He's shooting with two acceptable people. You guys know my bar these days. I can't let these people get too close to Ben. He's blowing up. His breath. His breath, first of all. Second of all, I don't know. I'm not just letting any old girl come through.
So today he's filming- Who is it? Alex Gornisheli?
No. Alex Gornisheli. She should be on my... And by the way, Ben sent me one of the videos that they made, and he asked me if I liked it before he posted it yesterday. I definitely saw Sparks. I just want to say I was shipping them.
Not the gorn.
Yeah. She's approved. Today, he's filming with somebody who is a man, so obviously, that's okay with me. Parjilish. Parjilish. Then he's also filming with a woman who is not interested in men. So also okay with me.
Love that. Yeah. And what are these things that he's filming? Where will we see them?
Ben likes to do all different types of Q-labs, some for his page. These are at someone else's studio. So when that happens, it's that person's content. And then Ben will rent a studio, and that's for him. Whoever's taking the cost, I think. I don't know how it works in the chefy space.
The chefy space. Well, speaking of Ben filming stuff, I have to talk about what you guys did last night, even though I'm sure you were going to.
Oh, actually, I totally forgot. I've literally done like a thousand. We were filming really early this morning because Jack is heading home, finally. Thank God. Back to our equilibrium, although I will miss the curtain.
I'll miss the pargy-ness of this studio and the ultra, SJ, and staring camp Right in the eye.
I totally forgot that last night, I was so busy. Not me, literally working till 9:00 PM. Try being an influencer for a day. Try it.
You, Margot, and Ben did an Amazon Live. I watched most of it. It was so funny.
I think that doing Amazon Live is literally my calling. I love to be on camera, so that's just fun. The Amazon Live studio, it's really high budget. When you're an influencer, everything you do is low budget. You do it on your phone, look at our studio. On your huge straps. Yeah. But this is being on TV. It's really I would say it's probably just as high quality, maybe even more that's QVC or HSM, the home shopping networks. It's a team of 50 people in the control room. You look like you're on NBC. It's really crazy.
I saw someone posted the control room.
It's so crazy. It's just fun to be in that type of fancy environment. I just think I really was in this life meant to have an Amazon Live show or a type of home shopping. To sell, sell, sell. I feel very passionate about the products. Well, that's because I get to choose the products. I don't think if you're on QVC You get to choose what you're selling. You just have to hog stuff. But Amazon Live is based on your storefront, so you get to choose the items. I did Dyson Airwrap, Dyson Vacuum, like beauty things that I like. I just feel like it's really my calling, and I had so much fun yesterday.
Oh my God. I actually turned on QVC the other day because I was just looking for something to have in the background. I actually like QVC around the holidays because they've got great energy and I like to shop. The way that they could make you buy anything, they were zooming in on this bar of chocolate.
Jackie, that's so crazy. I also turned on QVC a week ago.
It didn't even look like if I passed that chocolate at the store, I wouldn't look twice at it. Actually, it had live nuts in it. It was not for me. Live nuts? The way they were talking about this chocolate, I had to try it.
What's a live nut as opposed to a dead one?
Like a whole nut sitting on top. Multiple of different kinds of nuts. I'm not nutty.
What are you, nuts?
No, actually. I'm not nutty.
I agree. When we went to Polo Bar for Thanksgiving, we got almost every single dessert, and the one that we didn't get was the brownie, Which is crazy because that's my go-to, a warm brownie. It was a donut brownie. Seriously, why?
Seriously, why? I'm not saying, Yucky, I would never eat that. It's not preferred.
I prefer without it. I would say, Yucky, I would never eat that. You would. I think that it's the same for most fruits, except for... There are certain exceptions. Fruit is not dessert. It's just a substitute. Making a carrot cake, no, that's not dessert. That's how I feel about nuts. Get out of here. What are you, nuts?
I do think carrot cake is the exception, but I'm not going to argue because we'll be here for days. We'll never- We will be here for days. They were also selling this vacuum cleaner, and I wasn't titulated, but then they were showing how you could clean your kid's car seat with it. I thought that was something to really care.
That's how they got you.
Yeah. Practical application of policy.
Practical application of policy.
That passes muster.
If it ain't passing muster, honestly, it ain't for me.
You know what? Maybe passing muster came out of the woodwork today because I didn't get a lot of sleep last night, but I got better sleep than the night before. Yesterday, I was not coming up with passing muster. Maybe you just had a dream. I was barely passing muster myself.
Oh, don't say that. You were phenomenal.
Yeah, but it was just the brain wasn't hundo-pi.
Yeah. Well, we have not even really talked about what an exciting week we have. Maybe in one or two days, I'm headed down to Florida. Obviously, I need to spend time with my family, which I cannot wait for, but mostly because Jackie and I are doing our final live podcast of the year. Let's be honest, probably our final live podcast for quite some time. At the Hard Rock Seminal in Hollywood, Florida. It is our biggest show yet. It is our first show in Florida. It's a homecoming type of show, Very Beyoncé homecoming. It's Sunday night at seven o'clock at the Hard Rock Seminal in Hollywood, Florida. We are so excited. It's not too late to get tickets. There are a couple of seats left. It's our biggest show. I cannot wait. I did finally get a dress. It was really hard, but I found If you don't like it, that's fair. I'm not saying it's the most beautiful dress, but it fits, and I don't want to hear a fucking word about it. Okay?
No. If you out there have anything to say about Claudia's pregnant woman dress, trying to get it, she has no holidays. You're a mean person.
You try trying on dresses for a she has no holiday extravaganza when you literally hate your body. Try it.
I actually just ordered some dresses last night. I'm a little bit behind, but we could always hit the mall turdy.
We could. I also was thinking that green dress That's Simkai that I lent to you that is now living in your closet. That might fit me now. Okay. So that's my backup dress.
It's a great dress.
We have a great show. The stories are what? Scale of 1-10.
Not Gangbusters. So I don't want to... The stories are what we make them. I'll just leave it at that.
And let's make them rock.
Let's make them rock. We also have, Dear Toaster, a weekly advice segment that was moved Tuesdays.
We almost moved it again this week to Wednesday because Jackie is heading to the airport, but we decided to just record extra early to get to the tosters. And the submissions are very good this week. I'm very excited. Very diverse.
However, if we make too much of the stories, we will not have time for dear toasters. No, let's be mindful. If we do not stop singing our Stop singing our Pargy song, then we won't be able to give you advice.
But I'll never They want to stop singing my Pargy song. They want to make me stop singing Pargy songs, but I was born to sing this Pargy song, and you can grab a spoon and eat my ass. I love it. I love it. Now, I'll never stop singing my part of a party song. Oh, you know what I'm doing today? No, I will never stop singing my party song. Okay.
Sorry, I think you need to get in the studio. Well, I'm actually in the studio, and so are you. You know what I was thinking about, Jackie? You need to get into the recording studio. I'm going to write a song called The Part of a Song.
Well, remember when we were coming up with what Selena Gomez's song was going to be? We actually ended up writing an amazing song. I actually thought of the other day, the song that she ended up releasing, I'll be Single Soon. I don't know if there is a song that has made less of a cultural impact in my lifetime than that song. The way it came and went, I don't even think it hit the billboard. It was a passion project of hers. She liked the song. She didn't give a fuck. She made this turnt music video, and it's literally flopped.
Such a flop. What I thought you were going to say is you When we heard that she was coming out with a song, it was like, I am. She was doing Easter eggs. We wrote a song. How did it go?
Remind me.
I am real. No, Jackie, I am real. That's Simon Van Capen. I know. I'm not being alone too much to dance with your heart.
We need to get back in the studio.
We need to get back in the studio, and then I'll stop singing my pargy song when I decide the pargy-ness is long gone. I love, I love.
Okay, well, in that spirit, we should stop singing our pargy song and get to the business at hand.
Without further a do, do, do, do, about the Pargy song, here are the That's the best five stories that you need to know.
Wait, before we do the Fast Five, you're actually experiencing something that sometimes happens to me, but not a lot, where it's like, I get to do the toast from the comfort of my own studio. And yes, I have my problems, my bad lighting or whatever, but no one's judging me. I don't know. You are singing your Pargie song in front of how many camermen are? I know they hear me.
Just one.
Just one. And do you think that he thinks you're a freak?
I can't see him, so we'll find out after the show.
And do you think that he thinks that you're a girl who started a podcast for fun and three people listened? Do you think he knows that this is the Joe Rogan of the Jewish community?
Yeah, he definitely knows it's the Joe Rogan. No, he's actually familiar with The Toast because he works a lot with Alexis Waters.
Oh, okay. He uses the studio.
Oh, cool. Okay. You're saying Alexis Waters ate these eggs?
That's what he's saying. Yeah. Okay, cool. Sorry. The Party Song is brought to you by State Farm, which is so appropriate because they also have their own Pardee song, and this time we're allowed to sing it. Today's episode of The Toast is supported by State Farm. When you get a new car, a new home, the first thing you might find yourself saying is, How is this real? Or, It's giving homeowner. But really, the words you want to be thinking or singing are, Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there with a Pardee song. State Farm is there, can confirm. They are there with the coverage that you need for your your home, even boats, motorcycles, RVs, and other things that matter to you. With a State Farm agent, you know that someone is there to help you choose the coverage you need. With so many coverage options, it can really feel good knowing that you can find what fits for you. When you need ways to get help, State Farm also gives you options there, too. I know a lot of our listeners are quite diverse. Perhaps some of you relate more to Jackie. You live a little bit of a slower life.
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Our first story. Let's go back, back to the beginning.
Back to the beginning. Oh, you know what I forgot to tell you? Well, I did tell you, but we never got to chat about it. I didn't get to talk about it on the chose. When I was at Polo Bar for... Actually, I didn't tell you this. When I was at Polo Bar for Thanksgiving, you walked downstairs into the restaurant. As I'm walking downstairs, who's walking up? Justin Anderson and Kristin Cavalieri. Now, Kristin Cavalieri walked right by me. I feel like she doesn't like me because of that one thing I said about her, which I stand by. But Justin Anderson, I love it. He's a swirly. I've never met him, but apparently, he loves the Good Guys podcast, too. He was so excited, so funny, so nice. He was shocked to see us. I have never met him before. We're internet friends. Even better IRL.
Oh, my God. We're internet friends, and I really like him. You know what? I'm jealous.
Yeah, no. Meet your faves because if your fave is Justin Anderson, he's so handsome. He was so cute and so funny.
I just want to say I feel like Justin and Kristen are aligned, and her enemy is his enemies and vice versa, and who he likes, she likes too. I actually think she has no issue with you.
Okay, maybe also she doesn't know who I am and that and ugly and irrelevant, which is most likely the case.
I don't think he would be liking someone that Kristen had an issue with. They're ride or die.
Okay, cool.
That bodes well. But we're going back back to the beginning because Laguna Beach high school reunion, their 20-year high school reunion was this weekend. Lauren Conrad went, Steven Kaletty went. You have to remember, it's their year. Kristen's not their year.
But you also have to remember, and this was a reminder for me, that this was a real school.
No, that is what is so crazy. Has there ever been a more high-stakes high school reunion? Did anyone have a more public high school experience than Laguna Beach?
No. I need to know who was on the planning committee. When they were getting RSVPs, they were probably freaking Because there were also just regular folk who went to this high school and nobody knew, but they knew Kristen. They maybe had classes with Lauren. It's actually the craziest thing because I feel like in this day and age, they would never have a reality show about high school kids who are actively in high school. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, it seems really young.
Yeah, and it just it seems crazy.
Yeah, it is crazy. What's crazier is that they all went, especially Lauren. But I guess- It's not crazy. She is just a down home girly. I think she lives in Laguna now with her family. So it's like, why wouldn't she go to her high school reunion? But they all went. Lauren, Steven, Trey, Dieter, Morgan, Christina.
I mean, I recently watched Laguna Beach, and I feel like we have this conversation, so I don't want to be repetitive. But it is really crazy how Lauren Conrad was America's sweetheart. Seriously, we were obsessed with her. Everyone who came for her, Kristen, Spencer, Heidi, we hated. She was a queen of America. I recently went back and rewatch. Let me tell you, she's the worst character. She's so fabisina. She just likes Steven, and when it doesn't go her way, she's such a miserable sourpuss fucking face. All she does is, like, brag about her parents' new house and invite people over to the new house. She rides the coattails of her parents house. Her parents house is a character on the show.
It's being built for a season.
She keeps inviting people over to see the construction. It's giving loser.
Yeah. In hindsight...
Big loser Her energy, she has.
However, it all worked out, didn't it? Yes, it did. They had just a regular, regular, well, Laguna Beach style, 20-year high school reunion. They shared pictures. Everyone was getting together. It's like they literally wore name tags. That's so crazy.
It's also so crazy that they literally had three and a half years of regular high school, and then the last couple of months where they were filming that reality show, and that was their senior year, is what we all know, but they had a full high school experience.
Yeah. I would love to They should have had MTV there for the reunion to see, Where's everyone now? How's everyone doing? How did the show change your life?
That's actually a really good point. I feel like it was definitely something that came across the desk of MTV. Why wouldn't they? I'm sure nobody was willing to participate, and that's why, but that would have been a great special.
Yeah. How often does our high school have reunions? Because I would be coming up on my 15th in this week.
They do every five.
Every five. Okay. My 10th was a Zoom that I didn't join. That sucks. My five, I went to.
Me too. Everybody goes to the five because it's the first one. You're just out of college.
You're still friends with everyone. It's a night out.
Then my 10, I was so excited, and then I got booked. I had a work thing in Canada, and I actually asked them to move it because one of my friends was on the committee, and they were like, No. I missed it, and I was really upset. I will be going to 15 whenever that is, in three, four years.
I'll go to 15 if they host something.
Although I did hear about the 10 was that significantly less people came, and that makes me really sad. Everyone should go, even though I literally didn't, but everyone should.
I don't think 15 will be a big one. I think 20 is the big one.
If I remember correctly for my fifth, it was really not enough time had passed. I remember we were sitting in a classroom, and it just literally felt like a weekend. It wasn't- No, it was the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving.
Hey, all.
Yeah, it wasn't weird enough.
Yeah. You No. Now, it's like, I wouldn't recognize people, and that's the vibe I want.
Well, that is the phase of life that I'm in. Over the weekend, I was talking to my sister-in-law's fiance, and he was like, By the way, do you know blank? They had just met someone who I went to high school with. In my grade, it took me 45 seconds to place this person. The name just like, I couldn't. And of course, lovely girl. I remember her. Able say someone who we went to high school with, and I'm like, I seriously never met that person in my life.
It's also Well, because we don't have Facebook. It doesn't- That is true. They're not coming across our news feed.
Yeah. Losing a Facebook was tough.
That's why we need our reunion because people need to be able to keep up with us. They have no idea what we're up to.
We're so private.
We're so private. We're not on Facebook.
I love that they shared this. I love that they all went, and they seem to be on good terms.
But that also means that Kristen's is next year.
Oh, yeah. But her grade wasn't interesting to me. That girl, Jessica, was such a messica. It was just Kristin. Jessica. It was just Kristin.
Yeah.
And that was Kristin's problem, too. That's why she couldn't stop hanging out with the older kids.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She'll go, of course. She was a queen then, queen now.
She's really been making waves on her podcast. Have you been seeing I have.
She has decided to give podcasting her full attention. She's a born podcaster. She lives in a very interesting life, but she's also smart and well-spoken. She's built for this life, and she's a great co-host in Justin, so it's perfect to bounce ideas off of. I love that for her. It's a DM Media production, Rising Tides.
Love it. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Apple Martin interviewed this weekend at the Paris Debutant Ball.
I'm obsessed with the Paris- Now, we talked about this ball last year, right? Yes. I was telling you, TikTok has opened my eyes. Last year was the first year I knew about this. It's this really old school. First of all, Debutant Ball. I know they do that in the south, but it's really this outdated thing. But the one in Paris, it's one of the remaining balls, and it's for an elite international group of gals. They come from all over the world. It is the richest, the most royal people from famous families like Apple Martin, actual royals whose parents are... Some of them are princes, princesses. A lot of them, like billionaires in Asia. It's such an interesting group. If you looked at them, you might not recognize the women besides for Apple Martin. But on TikTok, they break down whoever it is, who their parents are, what they're wearing, their jewels. It's literally Marjorie Post. It's insane.
Yeah, it's called Le Bal de Debutants. And Apple Martin- I feel like they could do better than that. It went in a custom Valentino gown. She looked amazing. She's very beautiful. Her mom was there, her dad was there, her grandma was there. It was really a family fair. It was like her bat mitzvah.
It was like her bat mitzvah. There's so much footage coming out of it, too. I feel like they've very slowly been opening Apple Martin up to the public eye. I feel like she lived a very normal private life, and now she's a certain age. I think when she turned 18, she did this little Vogue spread. They She's done it very slowly and very tastefully. I think it's clear that she wants to do modeling or something. This was her coming out, her débutante, and obsessed. She's very beautiful. I loved seeing the mom and and dad, and Blyth. A lot of people also didn't know that Blyth Daner is Gwyneth Paltrow's mom. So when the pictures of Apple, her parents and her grandmother, people were like, Why is Blyth Daner there? A lot of people didn't know that. That's her nepo-baby alliance. Obsessed, just obsessed. It's nice to see them co-parenting, consciously uncoupling.
They're being very conscious here. That's always nice to see. Lily Collins also interviewed at this ball. Did you know that in 2007? I didn't. Also, so did Scout Willis in Lula Willis, which ruins it a little bit.
I feel like it would be a little bit more top tier than that. I want to see Lily Collins at the debut top ball.
She looks adorable. And by the way, the picture looks like it could have been taken yesterday.
She looks the same. She's timeless. You're timeless. Oh, she's so cute. Yeah. Oh, she's adorable.
Also, Laurie Harvey debut there and Ava Philippe.
Oh, I could see both of them. Wait, I want to see Laurie Harvey, debutante.
As did Billy Lord and Francesca Eastwood.
That makes sense. The people who do come from Hollywood, it's not a lot, but it's people from big families. That's why the Willis is. It's really a lot, not about who you are, but who your parents are. So Waleigh, yes, rumor Willis is. Yes, of course. Bruce Willis is Bruce Willis, and their mom's Demi Moore, right?
Yeah.
Okay. Laurie Harvey. Oh, gorgeous.
Oh, and Margaret Quale, too.
Classic. Laurie Harvey looks sick. This is my favorite rabbit Hole to go down. And shout out to the girl, he's on TikTok who are always doing those recap videos telling you who everyone is, what they're wearing. She's actually the first debutante to wear Valentino, which I guess was a big deal.
And I think custom. Yeah.
Of course, the mother. I don't know why I keep calling her the mother. My best friend, Gwyneth Paltrow. She was also wearing Valentino. It was a really pargy affair. I bet it was like- The mother, the mother. I wonder what it was really like on the inside. Do you think it's a really fun event?
Yeah, but I'm sure it's also You have to remember that even though these people are like, glitz and glam, they're still teenagers, and they have their insecurities and drama and all of that. I think it's a very high stakes high school event.
I love it.
Yeah, really, really cute. That's now a fun thing we can look forward to every year. Thanks, TikTok, for pointing this out.
It's so true. And that dress was really pargy, that blue.
Yeah, love.
She wasn't even wearing a lot of makeup. I mean, I guess that's what happens when you're 17. But She's very beautiful.
Very. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Some almost casting news. I'm obsessed. That's pretty crazy. Judy Greer turned down an audition for Modern Family's Claire Dunphy because she didn't to be America's mom. She said the role felt so limiting.
Okay, by the way, I could see the role was written for Judy Greer.
The role was written for her. They didn't get Judy Greer, so they got Foodie Freer. Yeah, literally. She is so wrong for this.
Does she stand by the decision?
It's explaining, She revealed in a recent episode of the Dinners on Me podcast that she passed on an audition for the role of Claire Dunphy.
She would have gotten it.
She told host who's Jessie Tyler Ferguson, who portrayed Mitchell, your fave, Mitchell is not my fave, by the way. I know. It was a joke.
It was so annoying. It was a joke. Who's your favorite on Modern Family?
Manny.
That's a really good answer.
Who's yours?
I don't know. It depends. Gloria is up there. None of the Duffy's. They're all the worst.
I like Gloria's husband, too.
Yeah, of course, Jay. It was either Gloria, Jay, or Kam. Jay. Or Kam, Mitchell's husband.
Yeah, but he gets bogged down with Mitchell's story lines because you can't watch Kam without watching Mitchell, so I don't want to watch.
No, by the way, you can't watch Kam without watching Mitchell and watching Lily, who, as she gets older, talks more like, is the worst character. I guess it's like the best family is Gloria, Manny, and Jay, and that's why they're the best characters.
A hundred %.
Yeah.
So Judy Greer said that at that point in her career, she was starting to play characters with children. In a movie, people see it, and then they forget, she said. In a TV show, it's just like, you're a mom. That's it. She added that she didn't even want kids in real life at the time, and that it was not even on the table for her. She said, I was like, I think I'm not going to audition for it. I was really torn about it, but I ended up, obviously not. Who knows if I would have gotten it anyway?
I know. You would have.
I was just like, I don't know if I want to be America's mom yet.
Okay, well, good because you didn't become it and you missed out on a million dollars an episode for what? They did over 100 episodes. Good job. Good job, Judy Greer. I think Claire That is the worst.
That's one of the last shows that benefits from rerun checks.
Yeah, that and Big Bang Theory. It's like old school syndicate money.
Yeah, set for life. But okay, you didn't want to be America's mom and be seen in this way.
Okay, so go back to work. Go back to work now.
Also, she did guest star on the show in the first season, like as someone's girlfriend.
Oh, that's interesting that she... In the first season.
Yeah, Phil Dunphy's ex-girlfriend.
I mean, I love almost casting news, and I feel like what's so great about it is that the person, it's like Harrison Ford could have been Jack in Titanic, whatever. He ended up being Harrison Ford, so it's not a big deal. But they always express regret. They're like, damn, I should have taken that one, or I was wrong about that one. That's what's so funny about it. But her standing by that decision, it was a bad call and just like, let's own it, Judy. Own it.
Yeah, maybe she regret it later in the podcast episode, but this variety write up, I'm not sensing the regret.
Yeah, I don't sense It's the mistake.
But I also think when you miss out on something like that, it's what you have to tell yourself to sleep at night. It's so true. Because you can't live a life of regret. You can't.
Because Judy Greer is famous, but she's not set for life famous. That's why the story is like, Harrison Ford, almost. But he's still Harrison Ford, so it doesn't matter. Judy Greer is still a working actor. I love her.
Yeah, me as well. She wouldn't have had to work as much.
She wouldn't have to be in that weird Christmas pageant movie that I almost bought a ticket to, but decided against.
What's that? It's in theaters?
Yeah. Before Wicked came out, I wanted to go to the movies, and there was nothing to see. So I almost bought tickets. It's called a Christmas pageant or something. She plays a mom. And I didn't buy it because it didn't look great.
I understand. Are you ready for our next story? Our fourth story, some podcasting news.
Oh, always.
Guess who's launching a podcast?
I mean, who is it?
It's not the usual because when I'm going to tell you this person, you're going to be like, Oh, don't they have a podcast? Why would they even want a podcast? Let me hear. And it's Oprah. Oprah's weekly podcast will include interviews with Oprah's Book Club authors. So Oprah is expanding her presence in the podcast sphere. Oprah's Book Club invites fans to listen to the TV personality in conversation with select Book Club authors in the Oprah podcast. The weekly podcast will feature Oprah interviewing one Book Club author each month with other episodes, including discussion sessions with leaders, global newsmakers, best-selling authors, visionaries, and cultural change makers. That is cool. She also hosts Oprah's Super Soul podcast, which is why it's not unfamiliar to hear Oprah's name in podcasting, but also she's had a million TV shows. She's just in media. It's not like we're finally hearing from Oprah.
Yeah, but I do feel like, aside from the Redheads, the celebrity book club space, which is becoming really big and really popular, hasn't taken to the podcasting space yet. I'm surprised Ries doesn't do that.
I Let's talk about what this means for the Redheads because she's like coming for your neck. Coming for your neck.
She obviously saw the success.
I think so. I think she saw that there's a want. A space. For it. The thing is, it seems like we're doing different stuff here, so I'll let her do her thing. We don't need to be authors.
Let me tell you why I like this. I just read a book that was in Oprah's Book Club Choice, but it was like a memoir of the person's life. They talk in the book about when they met Oprah, not when their book made the list, but they met Oprah in their professional life. Basically, this woman became a ghostwriter, not a ghostwriter, but an editor. The person she was helping write a book got chosen by Oprah, and him and Oprah did a little bit of a press tour, and that's where she met Oprah. Oprah was really involved in the books that she chooses. She took them out to lunch. I feel like some celebrity book clubs, they just choose a book, and it's not like... She really meets them. She puts... Not you. Of course not. She meets with them. She really champions them. She definitely reads the book. I think that this is actually a low lift for her because she's already meeting these people and getting to know them. So doing an interview, why not? I actually think this is a great idea.
Yeah, it's a no-brainer and makes sense.
Yeah.
Also, she's been doing her book club for Eight years as part of the... That was the first segment on the Oprah Wind free show. She's a pioneer. Yeah. She actually walked so the red heads could run. Rising Tides, Rays All Shides.
Do you think her and Ries hate each other?
I think that they can convince themselves. That they're different because they are different in what they do.
They are, but they're similar, too. I guess, Oprah hasn't gotten to the place yet where she's trying to develop any of these projects into movies or TV shows. And that really would be the competitive part because you're going to have multiple book clubs. But I think a lot of people are copying what Reese has done, or at least trying to.
Who do you think picks better books?
I don't think it's about better. I think books that appeal more to me are Reese's book choices. I think that Oprah's are really serious. I think Oprah's Book Club reaches a little bit of an older crowd, a bit more mature, more serious topics. And Reese's still are swirly a little bit. I don't think any of Oprah's choices are swirly. In the book that I was reading about, the book that she chose was about prison reform, and then the other one was about the Equal Justice Initiative, that guy, Brian. It's really heavy stuff.
I want to see a list of her.
I think that might have been the first Oprah's book I read.
I feel like it's a A lot of non-fiction.
Yes.
Yeah. Which I like.
Yeah. I gravitate more towards race, but that doesn't mean it's better.
Speaking of, I'm reading our book for the Redheads. We're reading Shred Sisters. It's our last book of the year. Dana chose it. It's really good so far. I'm really excited.
I'm reading a Redheads pick as well. God of the Woods.
What do you think?
It's long, but it's good.
Yeah, I feel like you're not reading it hastily.
I'm not, but that has nothing to do with the book and more to do with the space that I'm in.
The Lifestyle Choice.
Okay, calm down. I'm not smoking cigarettes.
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Our fifth and final story, a little follow-up news to yesterday's lead story, Bannerpump Rules. Andy Cohen is addressing the bombshell casting change and said it's the absolute right thing to do.
Andy addressed- I'm just never going to say the opposite, but let's see what he has to say.
He addressed the network's decision to replace the series Longtime Stars with a new group of close-knit servers on Monday's episode of The Serious XM show, Andy Cohen Live. He said, Bravo announced or word got out that they're revamping the show, and I have to say this is, first of all, the absolute right thing to do. He said he was so impressed that producers were able to keep the show going over the last couple of years despite the main stars no longer working at Sir. I think what was more impressive was that they were still able to connect it to Sir, not that they could do a show.
Yeah, what was impressive was actually the two or three years before Skandival, the fact that we still watched, that was impressive because that was seriously some of the worst television. The Charlie, Danika, Brett, Max here were the end of Jack's career on Van der Prump Rolls. It was horrible. I want to be compensated for my time. For watching that shit.
I agree. He said the entire point of the show morphed and changed as it went on, and it wound up that James Kennedy was the only one with any footprint at Sir because he was DJing there occasionally. Now he's gone on and he's got a residency in Vegas, and he's having great success.
They're all having- We're I'm supposed to believe that he is a residency in Vegas, but he's going to fly to LA. I actually do believe- And go DJ at a restaurant that doesn't even have a DJ booth.
I actually do believe that he does see you next Tuesdays or whatever because so many people come. It's great. It's where he got his start.
I believe it.
It's actually a good thing for everyone.
But explain to me, and I would love to talk to perhaps Diana or Guillermo, the managers of Sir, how they never thought to invest in a DJ booth. The way they would throw James next to the bar on a pedestal, It was literally with a laptop, no DJ booth. See You Next Tuesday became a huge event for them. It was just so low brow. To see his Instagram, he's literally playing huge festivals, Vegas clubs. He's standing on a cardboard box at Sir. It makes no sense.
No, I know. You know where he was in performing? The Science Museum.
And that one hurt.
Oh, yeah. That one hurt. Then he also talked about how a cast went in film together, he said. Then you have the others who don't want to be in the same room, much less on the same show with each other. And that makes sense, too. So what you were left with was really just a few pieces of what the original Van der Pump Rules was. I think this is a very smart programming move. He like in the shake up to the Roni reboot. He said, In Roni's case, we had 13 seasons of a show that was so beloved and so great, and it went on and on. And sometimes for a show, it's the end of the road or it's time to curve, or swerve, or pivot. That's where we were with Roni, and that's what's happening with Vannerpump Rules.
No, they need to stop bringing up Roni because I think that- It's not a good example. It's not. What they did with Roni was like, they had experienced this with Atlanta, with Jersey, with Beverly Hills, with OC, and they weren't sure what to do with these franchises that had OG cast mates, but that were at a standstill. They took a risk, and they did it on New York, and it did not work. Have you seen them reboot any other of those franchises that I just mentioned? No, because it didn't work.
No, and actually, OC is coming back from the ashes. I think a lot of the answers for the future lie in the past.
In the past. Bringing back thirsty, thirsty women.
Bringing back like, and Alexis. That's why now my new philosophy is that sometimes someone needs a break, and I don't want to see them anymore. I'm like, I can't have this person on the show. But that doesn't mean that I feel that way forever. There is a time and place for them to come back, and I think that's what they need to do more of instead of wiping the slate clean tabula rassa.
It's actually a brilliant point. There are so many women when you come to think of the New York franchise. I do think that getting rid of Dorinda- Cindy Bar shop? Okay, actually, no. But getting rid of Dorinda was important. I feel like she was... People I love her, and I love her, too. But she was the real core of the issue in the sense that the women would get blackout drunk, say the most horrible things to each other, and in the morning not remember and not even really apologize. She really was the worst at that. I agree with cutting her out.
But there are so many women- Then maybe in three years, bring her back. Then also, I think people get a little too big for their breaches where they think this is my show, and losing the job for a year or two will teach you that this is a group project.
It's so true. They need to be humbled. Theresa. Theresa, yeah. But when you think about the New York women that they could have brought back, like very Alexis Belino vibes, because Alexis is really doing a very good job of shaking shit up on OC. She would never, especially she's moved now. But there was a time where they should have brought Jil Zara back, and it was so obvious. She would have done it. If you ever watch those OG seasons, I rewatch them during COVID, she is a star. She is the reason that the Real House was in New York is a successful show. She was hysterical drama. Even if you didn't agree with her versus Bethany, that was the first big drama on Real House in New York. There are so many New York women, especially a lot of them are a little thirsty, which is good because Alexis believe us, Thursday. You need that.
You want the job.
There are so many women. I actually think you're 100% right. The OC formula, which I never thought I would say. They got some good new women, like the Emily and Gina. That was good. Everyone else who came and went, Peggy Solhani and like, no. But they got Emily and Gina, and then the bringing back of Alexis. They need to bring back Gretchen.
They need to bring back Gretchen. They brought back Heather?
Yeah, it's a really good point. I'm trying to think who else in New York they could have brought back. There have been so- Chr. Tateman? No.
Carol Aviva, Heather.
Oh, oh, oh. Heather. They did briefly bring Heather back, and they did her journey, and she left.
Didn't go so well. Aviva.
What about some Aviva? I saw Aviva dress her on the street the other day. Did I tell you that?
I feel like you could tell me that on any day.
She's always on the street. She's always on the street. She's always on the street. She's like a street walker. Aviva. Aviva, Jackie, Carol. Actually, Andy just said, I forget, it was either on his radio show- Carol hates him. They had a come to Jesus moment. They had a big friendship mending conversation. Wow. Yeah. I mean, those were the days Bethany and Carol. That was- Tinsley, even though she has so moved on. I actually didn't think Tinsley was a great housewife while she was on. She was just a part of Good Seasons. People think of her as like, Oh, that was great. She literally left in the middle. She was always whining like a 16-year-old. She was actually horrible.
No, she wasn't a great housewife, but she was- No, she was living in that apartment, and she was just like... It was just chaos. It was chaos, and you want to root for her.
Yeah. But I think if they could do... Because they're definitely doing something with New Jersey. Margaret and all the women have said, We have not heard from production. None of us have contracts. None of us have been fired, but we don't know what we're doing. I think if they need to put some OGs on ice. Say what you want, because I feel like it's what we were saying with Lisa Rinna. People like Margaret are necessary for this show. She is. She has kept this show, which for a couple of years has been a little bit on Ste, on... What do you say when you're on... Shaky Ground. Fumes. She has breathed a new life into it. I know some people don't like her. She ruffles people's feathers. But look where that got us with Lisa Rinna. Bitch, come back.
We just need a breather. We just need a breather. Beverly Hills is on tonight, so we'll both watch and recap tomorrow.
Yes, I'm all caught up already, so we will do that. We'll also do... We're crushing time, by the way. Just absolutely crushing.
Oh, yeah. Not a worry in the world.
We have Dear Toasters, and we can relax and just ease into Deer Toaster's, our weekly advice segment, where every Tuesday, Jackie and I will take three submissions from the swirlies who wrote in to us. They're in trouble, and they need us, and we're going to do our absolute best to guide them through with sound of mind advice. If you ever want to write in, you can, of course, do that. Email us, deartoosters@gmail. Com, or head on over to our website, thetoastpodcast. Com. Scroll down a little bit. There's a submission box. Both ways are totally anonymous. There's not one way that'll get you on the show more than the other. They all end up in the same inbox. Do not worry. If you've also written to us recently, and we've read your prompt on air, and you have an update for us, we would love to hear from you. Sometimes you guys just leave us hanging, and it's rude. If you have an update, please let us know. Are you ready, Jacks?
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Hello to my favorite ladies. I'm in dire need of your help. I have been dating my boyfriend for a little over three years, and he's been nothing but amazing. We hardly fight, we get along, and we just really trust each other. The other day, we were drinking, and I asked him, So is there anything that I don't know about you? Have you done anything crazy that is, I guess, concerning but interesting at the same time? He started laughing, and he took a deep breath, and he told me that he slept with his stepsister who was absolutely gorgeous. I love her so much. I consider her one of my good friends. I'm just shocked and thrown off about this, and I don't know how I feel about it. How would you take this information? And yes, they slept together after their parents were married. Okay, so I I'm only concerned because it seems like your takeaway here, the thing you're most upset about, is that you know this girl, you trust this girl, and that they did this thing behind It was behind your back, almost. But it wasn't behind your back. That they've had this secret that they didn't tell you about.
Not the fact that he slept with his stepsister. Stepsister, you don't share a parent.
This is so murky because- It's gross. But Claudia, it's Sharon Josh, and we all loved Clueless.
Okay. When Sharon Josh got together, their parents weren't married at the time. They had been married previously.
Yeah, but that's just due to the age, the timeline of everything.
That wouldn't- And by the way, we love, but we also talk about how fucking weird it is.
I just feel like if you're going to sleep with your step sibling, you have to marry them. That's the only way. No, I'm sorry. You don't just hook up with- Jackie, I'm sorry.
The rule is that you can't sleep with your step sibling.
No, but say two people's parents are getting together, and then the kids Or get romantic. And wouldn't it be cute if everyone got married? It's only cute if everyone gets married. So I don't know. The thing is, he didn't do anything wrong.
I don't have a step sibling.
I don't know. Legally, it's fine. More like, Genetically, it's fine. This is just really fucking crazy and not something that most people have to deal with because it's a family. Most people can't sleep with a family member.
No, of course. And by the way, there are different levels of step siblings. Let's say your mom remarries someone while you're in third grade and you live in the same house as a brother. Of course. If you're all grownups and you've never lived in the same house together, I understand why it's less weird, but I really will not just sweep over how weird this is.
It's so weird, but- Of all the people you could sleep with? Here's the ultimate question. Is this a deal breaker? If literally she's describing a perfect relationship.
I'm sorry, this would give me the ick.
It's so It's so uncomfortable.
But it doesn't sound like she's even that upset about the incestee vibes. She's more upset that there was this secret that she didn't know. She feels like a betrayal. That's the vibe I'm getting.
It's both upsetting because say he slept with his step-sister at one point, but the parents were no longer together, so he never saw her anymore. Okay, that'd just be a weird... Yeah, exactly. A weird interesting- No, but they are still together. But they are still together. It's both. It's the fact that he slept with his step-sister, but also the fact that they're still together, and so she's always around.
I'm having a really hard time not pressing my break up with your boyfriend button because there's good stuff here, as Steve braided would say.
Now, let me ask you something. Say that this is the unfortunate truth and things happen, and things Okay. Should he have ever told her? No. Is this something he should have taken to his grave?
Yes.
Don't ask questions you don't want answers to.
Yeah, let's go back to the whole- What was the question she asked? Yeah, it was crazy.
It was Tell me something really disturbing about you so I have the ick about you for the rest of my days.
That's what she asked. Is there anything that I don't know about you? Have you done anything crazy that is, I guess, concerning and interesting at the same time? You were asking literally for him to say this. You almost knew that he fucked his sister and you wanted to know.
I love how we're blaming her, but like, girl, keep your head in the sand.
Jackie, I'm only blaming her because I seriously don't know how to guide her. This is so crazy. I don't have step siblings. I actually don't even know people who have step siblings, really. I don't know much about this. We have a half brother, and that's different because we share a parent. Don't bring us into this. I know. It's disgusting. I don't know how to help you. Seriously, this is just... Okay, maybe if I don't press my break up with your boyfriend button, I'm pressing my, I'm sorry, I can't help you button.
I'm sorry. I'm going to press my giving grace and holding space button.
Wow, that's really mature of you.
She's describing a perfect relationship. I could see watching a movie about this and watching the parents get together and then maybe the young son and the young daughter, a lot of late nights, and they hook up. Oh, awkward. But they don't mind. I could see liking it in a movie, so I'm going to have to hold space.
But I'm sorry to you. I'm just having a hard time, honestly, not judging everyone involved here. I need to recuse myself from the steer toaster. I am not thinking clearly.
That is so unfortunate. This is just a warning to everyone. Don't ask your partner to share a concerning but interesting fact about them.
It was such a specific question. You knew he had relations with his sister.
I guess if you never picked up that vibe before, that's good.
Yeah. Well, you know this now. God speed to you and your whole family, honestly. Okay, this one's really crazy. Hey, swirleys. This past Thanksgiving, my husband and I announced our pregnancy. When we broke the news to my mother-in-law- Two days ago? Yes. When we broke the news to my mother-in-law, she had a photoshoot with my sonogram. In one, she held her stomach as if she was pregnant. I wasn't in a single photo. She then announced on her social media before I could with the caption, So happy for my baby boy. I was devastated. My husband told me that I needed some self-reflection. My husband told me that I needed some self-reflection if I had a baby just to post on social media. Okay.
I was outraged. I didn't understand that sentence.
Yeah, it took me a second, too, but her husband said something really fucking rude. My husband told me that I needed to self-reflect if I was just having a baby to post on social media. That's all I care about, essentially. I was outraged, and I told him if he would treat me like that, he could stay with his mom, and he's been there for three days. Girl, stand your ground. These two are nuts. Honestly, as long as people are- So the picture that she posted was her and him in the sonogram. No, I think just her, the sonogram, and her holding her belly.
Listen, everyone who sees that picture on her feet is just going to... Everyone can see. She's literally showing everyone how crazy she is.
No, I'm sorry. I think that when it comes to mother law antics, you do give a little bit of grace for her being an elder and having respect, of course. I think that this is one of the things you don't bite your tongue on. This is insane, by the way. Fucking crazy ass behavior. This is behavior of somebody who belongs in an institution. Having sonogram pictures with someone else's baby. I don't care if it's your grandson. It's fucking crazy. No, it's so crazy.
But she's exposing herself. You've got to pick your battles. Seriously, you cannot stress over everything when you're pregnant. Deescalate. Protect your I know, but the fact that she- Everyone can see.
The fact that she spoke up to her husband, and her husband took the mother's side, and now staying at the mom's.
Well, that's an issue.
You can't give in because the point is so large and needs to be made? Yes. That's really crazy. That's really crazy. Your husband should 100% have had your husband is leaving for three days and you're pregnant.
I don't want to look too much into it.
No, but don't give in.
No, you're not wrong. If you just need us to tell you you're not wrong. You're not wrong. That is so crazy. But you also need to protect your peace and lower your stress levels. That's all you can do in this situation.
That's fine. Maybe you should have, with just the photoshoot, understood this crazy bitch for what she is and just moved on. But the fact that you voiced a concern to your husband, and he ended up literally leaving the house and staying with his mom, such toxic behavior. He needs to learn before you have kids. I'm the number one bitch in this group, not your fucking mom. He could stay there for as long as he wants. Just know, you It's not going to be lonely, but he's staying at his mother's house, and his mom's fucking crazy. So you will last longer than him. Do not give in.
Agreed. But remain calm.
Remain calm, of course. Of course. Protect your peace. Yeah. Tear to his face is just stressing me out.
Yeah. Turdy, protect your peace. It's not good.
It's not good.
It's not good.
Oh, man. Some people are so fucking crazy.
But by the way, you're 100% right.
Yeah. Okay, ready? This is also a really crazy one. Hello, Swerlies. My boyfriend texted me in the middle of the day recently to let me know that he'd made a huge sale at his job. He asked me to get dinner that night at our favorite place to celebrate. We had a great dinner. I asked every detail about the sale, congratulated him, told him how proud I was, et cetera. As we were waiting for the check, I told him a story from my day at work. I work in a hospital, and the story involved a sick patient. His demeanor immediately changed. He leaned back in his chair, crossed his arms, and became instantly cold. He asked me if I was going to finish my drinks so we could leave. I asked him if I'd done something wrong, and he said that I, quote, Sucked the energy out of the room, and he told me it was, poor etiquette to bring up a story like that at a celebratory dinner. He asked if I would have told the same story if we were celebrating my friends getting engaged. He literally won't let it go. He keeps using the phrase poor etiquette, and I am so embarrassed.
Did I do something wrong, or is this a red flag? Run fast for your mother, run fast for your- She said boyfriend?
Yeah. Okay, run.
It's time to start fresh. You know what this is? You know who I I immediately thought of.
Who?
This sounds like something like Zack Bryant would do. It's on the surface, okay, whatever. But it's so manipulative, and it's so evil. You didn't I'm literally nothing wrong. Okay, first of all, you made one sale.
You didn't get promoted. I see a child that the mood has to be up here for an entire dinner. We can't just have a conversation. And agreed, Claudia, you made a sale. We're celebrating the sale.
You're not the President.
Like, calm down. The world doesn't stop. Other people had days, too.
Yeah. And a part of a celebratory dinner is like, you still are having dinner. What do people do at dinner? You talk about your days.
Right.
And how long can you seriously wax on about one sale?
No, and also what you're saying- It's definitely not a whole meal. If two people got engaged, would you share this? That's different. That's a group of people. The two of you are having a conversation. You're in a relationship, you're sharing your day. That's different than dinner party conversation. Yes, perhaps a story about a sick patient is not dinner party conversation.
I I just want to say, your partner telling you that you suck the energy out of the room, that's not a normal way to be spoken to.
No, and to say- That's not normal. To say that it's poor etiquette. If someone went on and on about my poor etiquette, I'd have to stop them right there.
Okay, I didn't marry Emily Post.
Good day, sir.
No, I'm sorry. I'm pushing my break up with your boyfriend button. This is really crazy, and I feel like either he's a really crazy boyfriend and you have other stories to tell us, or this is the beginning. He showed us really quickly that he's fucking crazy. I would run for your absolute life. He does not sound like a good boyfriend, a good partner. I'm sorry. I know. I say that all the time. It loses its meaning, but you absolutely have to go.
I'm pushing my this is a red flag button. Evaluate the rest of the relationship.
Okay, that's good, too.
And you know. You, dear toaster, dear reader.
Suck the energy out of the room. That's so fucking mean.
That's so crazy.
While she's placating to your dumb ass all night, You made a sale. It's so fucking stupid. When she said that, I thought he got promoted. I'm like, Okay, that's a big deal. That we could talk about. You made one sale. How infrequently are you making sales? Is it your job sales?
What did I don't say that he does? Maybe he's a realtor. Maybe he sold a bit of it.
She didn't say. But still, if you're a realtor, selling a house is huge, but it shouldn't be a cause for celebrate.
It doesn't mean we can't talk about the rest of our day.
No. By the way, if you're a real estate agent who goes out to dinner every time they make a sale. One, either you're broke because you go out to dinner all the time, or two, you're not a very good real estate agent. If you work in sales, it shouldn't be a huge monumental deal to make a sale. Yeah. I hate breakups.
I'm I'm concerned. I'm concerned across the board for the tosters out there. We knew things, I know. I know. I know. Thanksgiving was going to be a rough one, but honestly, I have a pet.
Yeah, me too. I'm just picturing the mother-in-law having a sexy photoshoot in her backyard with a sonogram that isn't hers.
Just think about what the people on Facebook think. At worst, they think she's pregnant.
She's having a geriatric pregnancy. She's pregnant.
At best, they see what you see and what we all see. Yeah.
Do they, though? A lot of themselves are probably mother-in-law's themselves. I'm like, this is crazy ass behavior that they would...
So just let... Just... Let the crazy's crazy. Protect your beast.
We made it. We totally crushed this time-wise. You're going to head to the airport in style. We have so much time.
We could even sing our party song. I just want to sing it all day long.
I love to go and sing that Pargie song. It makes me so happy I could smoke a bong, but I won't because I'm with child, and that's against the law, and I obey.
I obey.
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Love you. Oh, Claude, let's try one here. Let's just see. Okay. Maybe the curtain is our secret charm. Okay.
I feel like maybe we did it.
I always feel that way. Okay. Love you. We love you. Bye.