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Hey, everybody, welcome back to the podcast. I'm Lance Armstrong, joined by four crazy morphos who just finished rowing. Across the Atlantic, before we get to that, today's show brought to you like it is each and every time by ring getting all my data sleep, data activity, data recovery data, sleep cycles, respiratory rate, heart rate variability, all that stuff head on over to aura ring dotcom. Oh, you are a ring dotcom. And get and be like everybody else, you'll get the ring.

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Companies on fire. All right, boys, so I mean, it sounds dumb to say, but like, how are you doing? I guess this must be you know, we all have these moments in life. You know, it could be a diagnosis. It could be, you know, some other or it could be something great where you just like, oh, man, this today is a different day. Like these days have to be so much different.

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And I don't even know where to start. I'm not even starting with you, Dixon, because I'm I think it's lame that you're the only one that has shaved. Look at these other guys. These motherfuckers look like they rode across the Atlantic. You look like you just, you know, flew down from LaGuardia and you're hanging out, sipping cocktails. I mean, what's up, man? You don't even look like you did anything. So, Jimmy, let's start with you.

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How do you feel? You must feel amazing.

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I think with the relation of arriving on land is just unbelievable, that moment that you could see it. First of all, some rice came up and you could see Antigua behind you like, wow, that's incredible. And then the welcome party that we had, the boats coming out to meet us and guide us in something else. And you just get lots of energy for the final lesson.

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And I'm getting chills hearing about it now. How far? You know, I've I've been on some boats. We kind of go out fishing and then all of a sudden you don't see land. I mean, how far away from Antigua, like in at least guestimate that you could see it? Is that a miles that 50 miles? When do you finally see land?

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Well, I lost I lost our last night. We we rode through the night and and you may have seen we actually had one of our best days on the last days. We rode ninety one miles in the last 24 hours. So we were going pretty fast. And the first time we think we saw Antigua was was probably around two or three o'clock in the morning. And I think we're about 40 miles out and we could just see lights in the distance, kind of almost like light pollution because it was pitch black.

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And then as as Jimmy said, as the sun rose, we were about twenty twenty five nautical miles from Antigua and we could just see the outline. And every hour we get closer and closer and you could see houses. You could see boats. Yeah.

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It was a pretty, pretty amazing experience seeing land for the for the first time and for those you're watching on YouTube or whatever you can see behind Todd, you I mean, Antigua, a lot of these islands, you know, you think of sort of Caribbean islands are really flat. The Bahamian islands very flat. And TICAS actually got some got some some elevation. I've been down there and actually written a lot down there and there's some decent climbs, but so that obviously helps.

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Right. You get something that's I mean, I don't know.

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The highest point in Antigua is probably six or seven hundred feet, which for for for a little island is pretty high down there. So that helps. I would like to see it was the Bahamas. You might not see it until you hit it, but and then, you know, just I want to cover this because it was so crazy the last time we talked this whole Marlan episode.

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And I've been telling everybody this story like you're not going to believe what happened. These guys, like a fucking marlin, ran into the boat.

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Who does that? But then apparently it happened to somebody else. Did I hear that right? Yeah, exactly, it happened to another team called Generation Gap, although I don't think it was nearly as severe as what had happened to us. And then I think I heard yesterday that it happened to a solo again. So and for them that the the Marlins building ticket actually lodged into the cab. And I think it went in and out and they were able to fix it.

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So I think three Marland encounters in in one race is unheard of before this there before we had been attacked. This is only happened once before. So it's extremely rare for something like this to happen. And Lance, you know, we still had after the after we have the moral and attack, we still had one thousand miles down the road. So when the cabin started filling with water and Jimmy Johnson got to work patching it up with epoxy resin, there were definitely concerns as to whether or not it would hold because by no means where we were.

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We at the finish line, we still had a solid probably 12 or so days to go in the race.

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Now, remind me who was asleep, because if you go in for those listening or watching, go on, go on Instagram and you can see this is the picture.

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I mean, it is a thousand words who remind me who was sleeping. There were this bad boy decided to stick his nose through as I was forced to sleep an hour into my office.

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And then the rude awakening with this coming out three to three and a half. Now, hang on. I don't want to get dark here, but.

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But, Jimmy. And we're like, show us where I see the thing. Where did it get like, was it near your leg? Near your head, near.

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I'll stand up. Then it came through through the bed. Through my thigh like that. Unbelievable.

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Now what happens now? Let's let's talk about this.

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What would happen if that came through and hit you if you were sleeping on your stomach and that that clocked you right in the heart? What would I mean, this is a bad story, right?

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Absolutely. I think Jonah and I, when we were putting out we looked to each other when they've been in the British army and we've seen a few injuries in our times in Afghanistan and what have you. And we realize that actually this had gotten in anyway in heart. So chest, even a thigh, it wouldn't have been good news because the catastrophic bleed and the size of it, it would have meant it was probably game over.

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And we just thankful that we didn't have to deal with that at the complexity.

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I can't I mean, guys, think about that. That that's that's I mean, you have all these things out there that, you know, that we've talked about at the very beginning.

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That's that's that's mind boggling to think that, I mean, the luck or the bad luck or the chances, dude.

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Oh, Johno, how are you doing, man?

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You don't you're sitting over there. I want to hear what's up.

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How are you feeling? Like the other guys. I'm just you know, I'm just enjoying being in and being on firm ground that the arrival was fantastic. I was with several of them. We were just popping flags and hugging each other. I'm sure you saw some of the fighters flying around and great reception gone on to land, you know, all struggling to walk a bit, that sort of man kind of thing and think this kind of hits us.

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But it's into that, as you'd expect Lance to be proud, starting to strike the United States. The this you had we had some very, very friendly support to provide us with the magnitude of our kind, you as a first drink, which is obviously going to grow and and then. Yes. And stayed on and just loving being on dry land. And that first night collapsed into bed and slept for about 11 hours solid. Slept like the dead.

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Haven't slept on that. I don't remember when I lost it. So just enjoying it now. And, you know, we all we all lost a lot of weight and and also the body fat percentage plummeted. So we're all kind of busy refueling with the burgers, ice cream, you name it. I'm just trying to put a bit of way back around and then kind of enjoying a bit of it, you know, guns free in terms of of diet at the moment, which is.

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Yeah, so much for easing back in.

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But when you say losing weight, because I can see you guys, I mean, you're you know, it's it's it's visible. The weight loss.

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How much are we just for the listener. Give us a actually. Let's go let's go just down the line and tell us, you know, again thirty four days or whatever, days later, starting weight and finishing weight. It looks it looks pretty extreme. Yeah.

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So I can, I can, I can take it off. I had weighed. So I think actually you lose a little bit of weight in measure when you start because you're definitely not eating as much. And I don't think the foods necessarily is healthy in the. Twelve days that you're prepping in like an hour before you push off. So I was about one hundred and eighty two pounds kind of going into log emara right before the race. I weighed in at right around one seventy seven.

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And when we got to got to land on our way about one sixty three Clouseau and my body fat percent drop to six point seven percent down, down from right around 10 percent. So and my BMI interestingly was was high enough that indicated that I'm actually not underweight, which was interesting. But, but anyway obviously from basically the day before the race to the time I left was 14 pounds. But really I would put it more it at probably 17 or 18 pounds from the time that I left the US until the time that that I got back to Antigua.

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Wow. Todd, how about you? So I was I was two hundred and twenty pounds going into the race and about 13 and a half percent body fat and I finished the race a little over 20 pounds down, so just under 200 pounds. And my body fat was down to about nine percent. So, yeah, I dropped about four percent body fat and about twenty one. Twenty two pounds of weights. Yeah, my fiance is pretty happy. So, you know, I think she wants me to stay this way, but I'm not sure Antigua life is conducive to that.

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Let's not give these let's not give these wives and girlfriends and partners and people out there any ideas, OK? Let's not give them any ideas. They're like, look at these fucking they look like they're in a boy band, OK? They've they've been with their partner forever. They're bored with them and they and they see you, you the boy band here, OK? And they're like, why don't you go row across the Atlantic, Lance, I want you to like these guys.

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So ladies or guys or whoever, don't get any ideas, OK? We're not doing that. These are only there's a select few people crazy enough to do this. Oh, how about you? How much you lose?

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Well, I apologise. It's going to be it's going to be metrically. So I was eighty five kilos going in and seventy seven kilos coming out and my, my body fat percentage took a bit of a hit. I was about 11 percent going in and then they put the machine on some of the day after we arrived and it came up with at first and then, and then it landed on about four point four percent and forty five. So my weight was OK.

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But it's the portion of that, the weight really took a bit of a hit. So yeah, I'm working on that now, which is good fun. Yeah.

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You look like you're ready for the tour. I said look at the, look at the guns on the, on the man you got, you got, you got, you got that, that vein going there. I mean this is this guy is you know, you might have some teams calling you Jimmy.

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How about you where we get so big in being the oldest man in the team, I was allowed to carry a little bit more weight.

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By the way, you look like oldest, too.

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I just wanted to say I love you as well.

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So I was weighing in at two hundred pounds when I started and fifteen point five percent body fat. And then I finished on one hundred and eighty pounds and nine point nine percent body fat. So yeah, I probably the weight has been made up now on the beard and the hat. Definitely. But my question you, what was, what was your body fat when you're in prime racing, what were you down to. Probably in those really low numbers as well.

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Yeah, we were you know, always it's cycling is interesting. You obviously want to be as light and as lean as possible.

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But it's it's a it's a sport with a bunch of elements to see there.

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There's this fine line. I mean, if I was four percent at the tour. So that means you start the season at seven or eight or nine percent at the tour. I like to be right around four percent.

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You don't want to be too. Let's just call it exposed because the tour is three weeks. You know, if you start in the north of France, you could still have even in early July, you could have whether or not, you know, not terrible weather, but you could have a day with wind and rain and 50 degrees. And that's you see it all the time, guys that are just to lean. They can't handle even just a fifty to fifty degree wet day and bam, you if you get sick in the first week, you know, it's it's tough.

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You can't recover from that sometimes.

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So I don't know. I like you know, I was, I was I'd like to start the tour right around seventy four kilos. So what does that just about one hundred and sixty three pounds which is heavy for a cyclist.

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And there's some of these guys are like, you know, like jockeys, they're one hundred and twenty five hundred thirty.

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But I could never really ever my whole career shed that swimmer body that I that I got from when I was 12 or 13 years old.

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So now how how let's be honest, OK? There had to be some moments out there. We were like, you know what? I fucking hate these guys. Like, there had to be times where you're just like, get me off this. There had to be some fights or let's I don't want to spend much time on this, but I'd be fighting. I'd be like I did. Jimmy, Jimmy's bugging me, you know, Dixon, Dicksons.

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Look at Dixon's a spoiled brat.

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OK, why did why are we out here? There had to be these moments, right. And now it's I can see the vibe. There had to be moments where they're like, you know what? I don't ever need to see you again.

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There were there were a couple of moments at least I think, you know, that you don't want to let the small things get to you and you don't want to have a huge argument and you don't want to make it worse. Everyone is focused on just getting to the. So there is a bit of a balance, and I think I was more tolerant than I usually am on land just because I knew we need to stay together as a team. Jimmy and I were both in the stone cabin together.

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And so we we were responsible for all the navigation, all the coms changing the the autopilot, which would steer us. And so whenever we had a changeover, we we we discussed the navigation. We discussed whether we should be coming up on our course over ground or coming down. What should we change the what the hell should be done. And there were a few times where I think I was probably pretty short with Jimmy. He was the same with me.

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There are a few times where we'd get pissed off with each other. We I'd be short with Jimmy or he'd be that like that with me. And I'm probably like, that's for two hours maybe on my shift or on the next shift. And then I'd be like, I don't like it. Apologizing husband or wife would be like, Jimmy, I'm sorry. I didn't I didn't mean it. I was just tired. And Jimmy would be I'm sorry, too, you know, it's OK.

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So they had to be a few times like that, but we didn't have too many big arguments.

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I don't think in general we have the best. The best way that I can describe it is imagine going into your backyard and taping out an area that's twenty eight feet by about three and a half, four feet wide and picked three friends. And then you can't leave your backyard. You can't leave that area that's taped out for thirty six days. And in the middle of it you're dealing with extreme sleep deprivation, never sleeping for more than an hour and forty five minutes.

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You're working out every two hours. You're dealing with extreme heat storms, dehydration, hunger and everything else that Mother Nature can throw at you. That might be unexpected and you can't get off. So so just if you're in that situation, then inevitably, I think tempers will get frayed at different points. But and you'll get frustrated with each other. But but I think to walk away with this, though, being friends and still talking to each other and as Todd said, not having had any major blow ups where the knives get used on each other, I think is a pretty big win.

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So that all in all, I think worked out for the best. But, yeah, there are definitely there are definitely some tense moments. I think we're all pretty strong willed individuals as well. Jimmy, where are you going to stay?

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So I think you had some I think you've got to put that all to bed as well, because when the storm comes in and you're on the power and can the big power you put in the water, which we had to do twice for a two hour period in a four hour period, you're both in the cabin then. And suddenly Todd and I, Aniston and John and Dickson up in the bow, they have a little bit more room. It's still pretty uncomfortable, but you've got to be big spoon and little spoon.

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So any any grudges, you've got to have a beverage before that stage happens. I tell you now.

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So you guys, this is OK, hang on. It's just always it's always something with you, OK?

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The whole I couldn't handle the whole next thing.

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You're making us doing this as well. Oh, yeah, well, it's been great having you all. Now let's talk about the competitive side. You guys finish second. How far behind what was the team who won?

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They were under the shoulders of giants. Exactly. On shoulders of giants.

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How far behind those guys were you?

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I think we ended up being, what, about 80 or so miles behind them? Yeah, we lost.

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Yeah. In the beginning. What would you what do you estimate you lost in the beginning with the snap door and the other.

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I guess if you just combined let's combine and I'm not I'm not a big excuse guy, but I want to just break this down between that first incident, which seemed like it took a lot of time to snapped or yada, yada. And then the Marlan episode, I mean, if you combine those two, how many you're close, right? I mean, you got to be that's a day. So that feels like those things cost you at least a day.

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Yeah. So so I would say actually probably through the first week and a half, two weeks, we were, I would say marginally ahead of of on shoulders. We were kind of going back and forth. But I think at one point we had maybe ten miles on them and then we actually what caused the real separation was they had started going more south of us. So the three teams in the race class division that we were kind of, I guess really the two teams that we were primarily competing against were on shoulders of giants and HPF Atlantic HPF took a slightly more northerly route.

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We were in the middle on shoulders of giants, ended up going more south. And so if you go more south, typically you're hoping for stronger trade winds, but it is a longer route. So it's a gamble to go that far south because you really need to guarantee yourself and really hope that if you do go that extra distance and farther south, that the tailwinds are going to make up for that extra distance that you're going. And so what ended up happening was we were caught off guard by weather system that moved through that.

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That was not on any sort of the weather maps that Angus or weather router had checked. So Jimmy and I were on the orders and everything was somewhat calm. And then all of a sudden we just got absolutely smacked by this massive storm that lasted for, I don't know what, ten, ten or so hours we're Jimmy. I ended up being on the boards for about six of those hours and we were just getting absolutely pummeled by waves that were coming over to the side of the boat.

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Forty plus mile an hour winds and it started getting cold. We didn't have our our our foul weather gear on at the time. Todd was in the stern cabin dealing with all all the navigation to make sure we stayed somewhat on course. Jono had been suffering at the time from from some seasickness issues and was doing his best to help as well. So from when that happened, our obviously was very tough to just manage the course that we're on. Our speed dropped and short on shoulders of giants had gone farther south, so they missed the storm entirely.

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And so essentially when we came through this twenty four hour period, they had slingshot themselves around us and HPF Atlantic and then gained about thirty five to forty miles on us. So to their credit, they, they, I would say probably had picked a better route, avoided the weather system, had more favorable tailwinds and were able to slingshot around us and HPF Atlantic.

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OK, so what's the, what's, I mean is, is are you happy with second place. I'm going to ask John this question because I have a follow up question about this whole seasickness thing I'm obsessed with. This is second satisfactory or is there some disappointment? Is is there some? And I guess the ultimate question is, is there some desire to come back and and and do one better? Which if you all want to do that, good luck.

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But very quickly, I think I don't think this desire to come back and have another go, I think, like we went into this very much focused on winning it. So I can't speak for all the others. But personally, you know, there is an element of disappointment, but we absolutely put everything we had into the into the race there. Are there all just at the end of the day, factors that are outside of your control? And I think those were the ones that that, as Dixon just kind of described, were the ones that potentially cost us a bit of time, a bit of distance and a bit of speed.

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So but but we threw absolutely everything we had into the race. And, you know, there's nothing that we genuinely could not have done more. We were hugely focused on winning. We pushed ourselves as hard as we possibly could. So, you know, to come out of it with second place and also, you know, looking at the second half of the race to come out, it was come out of it set with with second place, having had some of the kind of incidents we had, such as kind of the path.

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And it's not the day. The the modern strike is pretty incredible. So perhaps there's a tinge of disappointment. I think overall we felt we couldn't have done more. And it's just. An incredible thing to have done this when Dixon alluded to the sea sickness, is this because I've been on just about fishing and I've gotten started to get sick. And it's one of those things where, at least in my experience, you just don't I could never get better until you finally got home and or got on land.

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And I mean, are we how sick? I mean, just just like constantly sick. Are we talking a little queasy? I mean, what what what. Like, give me. Walk me through. I mean, how miserable I guess is the easiest way to say it.

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Well, I mean, it was something that we were all very nervous about going in. We we all through of the patches these these kind of medication patches, you stick wheeled through those on from the start. And they were overall they were pretty effective. I was the only one who is, I think, hit in any real way. And so I was the only one who's actually kind of throwing up from time to time. But it was really probably then he only the first kind of 10 to 14 days that it happened.

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And actually the nausea wasn't too bad. It was just I just it would hit me in a wave and then very quickly, I just kind of stick my head out or stick my head over the side and just throw up. I was fine. If I was on the oars, it was just kind of if I was in the cabin not lying down or something, the nausea would hit me quite quickly. I think overall, and I'm pretty grateful for this, it wasn't as incapacitating as it could have been.

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So and once it passed, it passed pretty well. You know, we've heard some horror stories about people just literally hugging a bucket for days on end and not being able to eat, drink or be on the news at all. So so overall for me, I think I got off quite lightly. There are a couple of funny times when I was in a during the storm at one point just came out, Galileo's was talking to Jimmy in this sort of blood and then just just give me one sec and then just threw up a vessel.

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And that was your conversation. Sort of looked at me. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're talking about. So, you know, overall, it was it was definitely manageable because I know what you mean. That holds in and that's you right into the facility back online.

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So there's no there's no there's no second attempt here that I know you said that, John. Was that the consensus amongst everybody that that one and done. Now, never say never that we may have announced our full retirement information on the finish line, but, you know, there's always a price, isn't there?

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Speaking of that, is there any prize money for this? NIVAT That should be a damn good idea. This is crazy.

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OK, everybody listening or watching, we need to sign a petition. I mean, you ask these folks, OK, and by the way, I just looked I was just looking at the website as John was talking this this poor girl who's out there all alone.

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There are a few people that do it alone. She's out there and she's she's what is her the sweet lady's name, Jasmine.

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And they are projecting the website is projecting her finish to be March the twenty third. OK, we're sitting here January 20th. She is out there all alone. She has two more months of this. So that's just the projected finish time.

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It could be longer now. And for for the love of the game, no prize money.

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OK, everybody, let's get together. Let's a little a little change, dawg.

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Petition this is this got to be some money on the line. This is too extreme.

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Yeah. We want to disagree with you on that. For the rap.

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There was a million bucks to win. I wouldn't do it.

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There's no way you're crazy to do it for free, man.

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But we had we had we obviously had so many conversations on board. But one of the ones we had was how much would you have to be paid to get back on the boat and do this race again straight away. And let's just say most of the numbers are in the high hundreds, thousands or millions of dollars. I think that was our mindset at the time, but never getting back on that boat.

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And with Lance, the other the other thing, too, that I that is, is for for the soloists. And really, I think regardless, it's important to note is this regardless of what place you're finishing in in this race, I mean, this is just it is the race is just brutal. And so regardless of whether or not you're finishing in second place, you're finishing in last place. The fact is, if you're finishing in last place, that means you're out there for longer.

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And so the suffering I take is probably that much greater. And for the soloist in particular, who have only themselves powering the boat they've had, the conditions have been incredibly challenging this year. I mean, again, to put it into context, the world record is twenty nine days and they had average tailwinds of twenty seven miles an hour the entire time pushing them towards Antigua. I think we had tailwinds for probably five to seven days of the entire race that never reached twenty seven miles an hour.

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And instead we had headwinds, crosswinds, waves going in different directions. I mean, it was where we had dead calm days where it was extremely hot. We were worried about heat stroke and dehydration and just trying to move the boat through the water was really backbreaking work. So add on top of that, we were working harder and and obviously our Hungary levels increased. So I think for and for the solos, if they were facing headwinds or and could it make forward progress, they would have to go on.

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Para anchor, which we mentioned in a prior podcast, is a large parachute that you deploy. It fills up with water underneath the boat and essentially prevents you from moving backwards. And there have been multiple times where almost the entire fleet has had to go on pair or so. At one point it was us and three other teams that were far enough ahead of a weather system. We're all seventeen other teams. We're on pair anchor. And we had heard a stat that I think one of the soloists, I think it was Jasmyn from Rutelli Mad who to her credit is vying to become the youngest woman to ever row across the Atlantic Ocean.

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She spent, I think it was five days on pair or so. Just put that in. That's five days of just sitting on a boat, not being able to do anything, not being able to make forward progress. And you actually lose marginal amounts of distance because you are moving backwards. But if at a very, very slow rate, so you're watching some of the progress you made evaporate. So again, mentally speaking, I just I can't even imagine being a solo out there.

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So, again, a huge, huge testament to that and their mental resiliency and fortitude to to power through something like this, even if it takes them up to three plus months to do it.

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And I still can't figure out the this anchor thing.

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I mean, I'm not very smart. I just don't understand how you put something way down in the water. And it told you that. I think it's awesome. But I don't understand how that works.

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Just for the record now, how are aware when you guys are out there?

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I mean, obviously, you've got the satphone and you've got all the technology to help navigate.

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But how much how much like how connected are you?

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Because there's been some crazy shit that happened in the world. I don't know if you guys are even aware of this as you're out there. We had. These loons, these total fucking idiots, raid our capital.

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This is I mean, you know, your normal people sitting at home on the corner of First and Main, you're like, wait a minute, is this really happening in.

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It's just depressing as all hell. Are you guys aware of things like that or are you guys just focused? Because, I mean, by the way, you know, you could have been out there on 9/11, could have happened, for example. But are you even connected to the real world and reality in news stories?

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One of the big hurdles we had to overcome is that we were sponsored by Inmarsat and advanced tracking and we were going to have some connectivity that we could have even done the Zemko whilst mid-ocean. But unfortunately, when all of our power went down and everything, we lost that connectivity. And so that meant we actually had literally nearly zero comms apart from the satellite phone. And I think that was a huge mental hurdle to get over because we were going to be getting WhatsApp, some family messages of encouragement, sending images back, and we would have stayed up to date on news and what have you and have that taken away so early on, which is really tough.

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But it meant actually we had the most amazing digital detox, literally. There was nothing coming through other than when we signed out.

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And I remember I told my father when it must have been the day after the Capitol Hill storming. He said, Right, I just give you a little two minutes of news of what's going on. And he talked about Brexit in Britain and then the covid, what's happening and then the storming of Capitol Hill. And I said to Dixon, I said, hey, mate, have you heard what's happened in the States? And he's like, no, I couldn't believe it, nor could we.

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And then when we arrived in Antigua, there's some amazing shots of us holding a flag with full beards. And everyone's like, you're a little bit late to the Capitol Hill party.

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That looks like you're ready to go. But it was pretty weird to be that disconnected. No emails, no WhatsApp, you name it, just shut off. And actually, it was rather beautiful that maybe in hindsight it was a pretty good thing for all of us because we lead such busy lives. And to have that quietness was great.

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So you've now given you already gave all the partners out there an idea for for how to get there. Their significant other to lose 20 pounds and lose five percent in body fat.

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But you've now doubled down on giving out and giving every parent out there.

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You know, I watch if you haven't seen this documentary, The Social Dilemma, as a parent, it'll rock your world this this addiction to devices and electronics and and all of the reflexes that it causes.

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You've now given another now all these parents are out there like, you know, I think my kid's on his iPad or his iPhone too much. So now we've now started a whole new movement.

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Now all the folks are out there. The parents are like, wait a minute, I think my 12 year old needs to have a little digital detox and he needs to go across the Atlantic. Come on, guys.

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And again, you look like the boys to man or something. Now, I mean, this is not this is that's not a band anymore.

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I shouldn't say that. I love Boyz to Men. Yeah, you would. You would you. Right.

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It's an extreme solution, but it's an effective one. Yeah. Right. I, I actually put that that part.

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I would, I would actually I think would be cool when how long you are going to be down there. I want Todd to answer just for the record, Todd has the best backdrop. OK, this is it. You all look like you're living your best life right now. But Todd Todd's background and scenery back there, that's money, right? You put some you put some thought into that one that. Yeah.

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So it's on my my fiance's actually been here since the twenty third of December. She was worried that she wouldn't get out here. So yeah, she's she's now with fast becoming an Antigua resident and has a couple of friends with us. She spoke to my I spoke to my boss at work yesterday and the first thing he said was you need to stay in Antigua as long as possible. He said there's no need to come back. You can work from there, work whenever you want.

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So, yeah, I think it is a few of us. I know Jimmy and I are probably planning on staying for for a few more weeks. So, yeah, I'm I'm fast enjoying becoming an Antiguan resident. I think John Johnny might be staying another week as well.

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And we see that. I mean, look at the backdrop.

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That that's just that's and by the way, the fans say this is the bottom line.

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You know, I'm afraid I'm I'm worried I'm not. We've covered everything going on. I don't think I'll be there. So I'm going to go. A month ahead of time, I just want to make sure I just want to make sure I get there. So let me honey, I'm here. Don't worry. It's all good that I got to meet her.

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This is her boyfriend, which I'm more worried about.

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This is she's got a tan. She's looking good. She's like, I just want to make sure I was here. Now, Dixon, you know, our buddy Martin, he's I just texted him while we were talking. He's coming down. If y'all are still there, he's coming down the twenty eighth. He was there and then went back. He's in Miami now, but he's coming back to twenty eight. So I want to make sure let's not forget, I want to connect you all with him.

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His place is over on a little island just off of Antigua called Jumbe Bay. But I want to make sure you all get over there and he is this. This guy has a spirit about him. I've never seen anybody enjoy life like him. So I want to make sure y'all get over there to Jumbe and have a couple of cocktails and a nice meal at his place. It's this shit. I've never seen a place like this. So let's let's definitely hook that up.

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He and by the way, y'all should know he he's been tracking the progress he set in. He's a British guy, too. So so all you British dudes all get along well.

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But he's he says, let's go, let's be in Antigua for the rowers.

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I'm like, you know, is God unreal? I'm proud of you guys. I didn't I didn't I didn't know what to expect. I got to be totally honest. I didn't know that if you'd all get there, I didn't know if some you know, obviously some crazy stuff happened crazier than I had thought. But I'm. This is cool. This is good. I'm glad you guys look great.

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And it's a fuck. If I was a man, I would I don't know, I wouldn't do anything for like a decade. I mean, like, I know, like eight years ago I rode across the Atlantic. I'm still not doing anything, so kiss my ass.

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That's what I would literally be thinking, that my business partner is out here. Lance. So I think I set out the glass office in Antigua because, hey, why would we go back to lockdown in the UK?

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And by the way, Jimmy, props to you for fixing your backdrop. Now, you opened whatever you did and and and the champagne bottle. This is OK. Points, real points for that.

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This is you guys. You're down on the what is it that's you're on the southern point there of the island because that's where the big marine, the big port is right southeast side down English has up there.

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And Famous Harbor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dixon slightly on the other side. And we're going up to his place tonight for a big dinner celebrate SRI, which his parents really came in hosting, and we're looking forward to that. And then we got a bit of a photo shoot as well later with Talisker to kind of see said.

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I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure that you guys do have a photo shoot. This is you don't need to rub in the hole. The whole GQ thing you got going. Right. You're shooting your album cover.

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I know, by the way, anybody can make music now with all the technology now, you could sing like, you know, Scooby Doo and you've got to hit. I mean, just go with the look, shoot the album cover. Dixon even fixed his back drop. Let's see. What do you have back there now, Dixon? Do you like that? Yeah.

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This is see that a really. Maybe I need to get down there and hang with you all, you know, Lance. Lance, we did have we did have a fifth spot on the boat for you. So, you know, when when we do this again, you're in.

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Yeah, I feel like I've I've done my job by talking to you guys once a week. That's that feels like it feels like that. That's sort of that's that's that's sort of my idea of the fifth man. And I do think I and we talked about this in the beginning.

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You know, all of us said we do you know, this is there's just this ethos of what we do is and it really is you think of these extreme events and most people say, I would never who would ever do that? And a lot of people say, well, we do. You know who wants to do that? We do. You guys took it to a whole nother level.

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So this this is this is the craziest thing I've ever talked about in and in and really goes over the line for me. But we all know that. So let me I'm going to let me get with mine.

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Maybe I need to come down there. I got I got to. I got a. I don't know, this looks too nice, I didn't like any of the shit I saw the last month, but now that I'm seeing this, I'm looking outside guys, and it's just there's white everywhere. There's and I hate by the way, everybody knows I hate snow. All I see outside is snow. So this is your kind of it's kind of pulling at me.

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Is we have we have a lunch later today and into dinner tonight. So depending on how fast you can get here, open invite. Yeah, I it's it's it's way down there.

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So it's not that fast. But let me work on that and I'm going to get with Martin and I might make that happen so. All right.

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Anything to add before I let you guys go enjoy life on solid dry-eyed non-moving land?

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I think I think the only thing that I'd add is importantly, the race is done. It's not just a masochistic feat of kind of self flagellation, but it is a it is a race that we do do for charity. And so we did raise money for four charities each that are near and dear to us individually. So we raise money for Achilleas International, the poorest foundation, the Brian Cross Memorial Trust and the Not Forgotten Association. And as of today, I think we've raised somewhere around two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and counting.

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And so I think we're extremely proud of the fact that we did raise that amount of money. And friends and family and others have very generously continue to contribute well past us finishing on Sunday. So again, we'd be happy to to share more information. Our our Instagram account for those who don't know is Laerte Elat. Thirty five, Atlantic Challenge twenty twenty. Please give us a follow. We've been posting updates there not only about the race itself, but about our charities as well.

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So for anyone that is interested in learning more about them, we would direct you there and feel free to message us. We we would be more than happy. But all in all, we there are so many people to thank God the list goes on and on from from coaches to family and friends who supported us through this batshit crazy adventure, to our sponsors, to lance even youth supporting us on this journey. So, you know, we really feel it.

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And you see the four of us on screen here. There are I mean, there are hundreds of other people's hundreds of other people that have been incredibly helpful and generous and helped us not only get to the start line, but helped us accomplish our goal with finishing this thing and finishing it in in a really strong place. So to everyone that has been involved, we really can't thank you enough and and hope to have a beer with that with many of you soon.

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Yeah.

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So you didn't break the world record for for the race or for the for the, you know, for the Atlantic. But you do have the world record for the longest Instagram handle of all time. But I want and I want to say it again, because this is not lost on me. And and I know our listeners. It's not lost on them. Two hundred fifty grand. A quarter of a million bucks. That's a ton of money. You know, we sort of poked fun at no prize money, but that is prize money.

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Quarter million bucks to four great organizations, obviously. Ah, I'm guessing you each picked your charity of choice. But I want to just let me try to get through this Instagram handle again. So let say it again. Somebody say it again. Yeah. LAT thirty.

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Exactly. So let's Latif thirty five. Atlantic Challenge. Twenty twenty.

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It's a mouthful but couldn't we have gotten something easier. But nonetheless lat thirty five Atlantic Challenge.

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Twenty twenty. Yep. OK and you guys and gals listen and if you could just head over there. Look the boys just spent thirty four days at sea or whatever month plus at sea defying all the odds and if and if it pulls on any heartstring just head on over and support these great charities. And that's the prize money right now. So or send send beer, send whatever you want to send down there. All you ladies watch and you see this guy don't don't get any at all I think have significant others to don't get any ideas with the boy band here.

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But what a feat.

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What if y'all are crazy, just crazy. And I'm glad to hear that you don't want to do it again because then I would think you're truly crazy. But go enjoy yourselves. This has been fun to watch. I was tracking it every day. I actually I'm going to keep tracking it because I'm obsessed with these people that are out there for two more months. This is that's that's that's heroic.

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So go enjoy yourselves. This is this has been a blast and hopefully I can get down there soon. We'll catch up. I have a cold beer and, yeah, that'll be great, yeah, stay alert to it. Yeah, look at the look at these back to these backdrops are just this is amazing. Amazing. All right, boys, thanks a lot. Thanks, Lance.

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Thanks. Yeah.